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How do your new ideas and designs come to you?<br />

Ideas usually come to me when listening to music or looking at symbols in books and<br />

online. I like things to manifest from a thought or idea and then see it on a shirt. I am<br />

also a design hoarder, which means I have pieces commissioned from artists that have<br />

never been put out. A lot of concepts just feed the mind, so I wait until it feels right to<br />

release them. In the last few years, I have been vibing on some spiritual and esoteric<br />

tips. Like anyone who is trying to learn and evolve, Phoenician Clothing is about the<br />

passion and consistent growth of the self. I put messages on shirts like “Blood, Sweat<br />

and Fire,” which is about the blood from your roots, the sweat and struggle we go<br />

through in the process of reaching our goals, and fire is the passion we have to move<br />

forward and see our vision come to life—no matter the odds.<br />

You mainly collaborate with other locals. Do you also design in<br />

house?<br />

Phoenician, from the start, has always been about working with local artists. I have<br />

been blessed to have such amazing artists work with my concepts, including El Mac,<br />

Lalo Cota, El Moises, Matt Dickson, Victor Vasquez, Bisie, ABOMB and so on. I<br />

am also thankful to have recently worked with L.A. artist Chaz Bojorquez, who is<br />

internationally known.<br />

What’s next for the brand?<br />

I am looking to take the brand to Japan. I have had a lot of people and artists telling<br />

me that Phoenician Clothing would do great in Japan because of the feel of it and<br />

symbolism of the Phoenix. “Foreverising” is what I’ve considered as the global name<br />

for the brand. Like the Phoenix is the soul of Ra, Phoenician is the soul of Foreverising.<br />

Passion and ideals never die; they just get manifested in a different time. I am also<br />

creating some classic cut-and-sew pieces for women with a future primitive style that<br />

will be relevant for years to come. Lastly, I hope to put together another fashion show<br />

that I can travel with.<br />

Personal goals for the future?<br />

To stay healthy and have fun doing what I love with family and friends. Finally, to learn<br />

a third language and maybe a fourth!<br />

phoenician.bigcartel.com<br />

facebook.com/phoenicianclothing<br />

instagram.com/phoenicianclothing<br />

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