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Dr.Banja Junhasavasdikul<br />

Chairman, Board of Director of Innovation Group March 2017<br />

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Labor mobility<br />

Multi-nationalities<br />

Urbanization<br />

Aging<br />

People<br />

Social Changes<br />

Unbalance of incomes<br />

Digital<br />

Communications<br />

Local Politicians<br />

Local influencers<br />

Thailand<br />

Technology<br />

3D Printing<br />

Economy<br />

Politicians<br />

Political Transparency<br />

Digital Technology and<br />

Robotic<br />

Bio-Engineering<br />

Finance & F/X<br />

Government<br />

Offices<br />

Globalization and Trade Regulations<br />

Consumer’s<br />

Global<br />

Warming<br />

Green Economy<br />

NBT<br />

behavior<br />

Green Technology<br />

Environmental Control<br />

“Something new and<br />

better<br />

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Dr.Banja Junhasavasdikul<br />

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Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vs. Battery <strong>Electric</strong>al <strong>Vehicle</strong> (B<strong>EV</strong>)<br />

<strong>Electric</strong> cars are a variety of electric vehicle (<strong>EV</strong>). The term "electric vehicle" refers to any vehicle<br />

that uses electric motors for propulsion.<br />

Internal Combustion Engine (ICE)<br />

http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/technology/transportation/electric-cars/<br />

Battery <strong>Electric</strong>al <strong>Vehicle</strong>(B<strong>EV</strong>)<br />

• B<strong>EV</strong> is an electric car that is propelled by electric motors, using electrical energy stored in rechargeable batteries.<br />

• <strong>Electric</strong> motor are more quite than ICE and generate much lower heat and pollutants.<br />

• Not only Internal combustion engine but fuel system are not necessary also for B<strong>EV</strong>.<br />

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Major Emmissions of<br />

Pollution – especially<br />

in Megacities<br />

(Urbanisation)<br />

One Quarter of total<br />

consumption of fossil<br />

raw materials<br />

The Transport sector<br />

is responsible for one<br />

quarter of total<br />

Greenhouse Gas<br />

(GHG) Emissions<br />

Why<br />

<strong>Electric</strong><br />

<strong>Vehicle</strong>s??<br />

Noise Pollution<br />

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Energy Efficiency<br />

ICE<br />

Losses :<br />

gases<br />

(water)<br />

(radiation, convection)<br />

Energy Efficiency<br />

<strong>EV</strong><br />

20 % propulsion<br />

about 40% hot exhaust<br />

20% motor cooling<br />

10% motor cooling<br />

10% other losses<br />

85 % propulsion<br />

Losses : about 5% battery<br />

10% other losses<br />

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Today oil demand is 92.4 mbd and automotive accounts for 75% of oil product<br />

consumption in transporting system or 50% of final oil consumption<br />

By 2023, w/w will consume 100 mbd of oil, <strong>EV</strong> could replace 2 mbd of oil<br />

demand as early as 2023<br />

China is the strongest growing country in <strong>EV</strong><br />

Current price of battery in mid-sized car cost $ 15,000. makes <strong>EV</strong> car very<br />

expensive. But price of battery is coming down.<br />

While cost of producing ICE to meet environmental controlling standard will<br />

becoming more expensive than <strong>EV</strong> which meet the standard<br />

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H<strong>EV</strong><br />

B<strong>EV</strong><br />

ER<strong>EV</strong><br />

PH<strong>EV</strong><br />

H<strong>EV</strong>: Hybrid <strong>Electric</strong> <strong>Vehicle</strong> PH<strong>EV</strong>: Plug-in Hybrid <strong>Electric</strong> vehicle B<strong>EV</strong>: Battery <strong>Electric</strong> <strong>Vehicle</strong><br />

ER<strong>EV</strong>: Extended Range <strong>Electric</strong> <strong>Vehicle</strong> FC<strong>EV</strong>: Fuel cell <strong>Electric</strong> <strong>Vehicle</strong><br />

FC<strong>EV</strong><br />

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Charged by<br />

engine/fuel<br />

cell<br />

Engine<br />

Engine<br />

Engine<br />

Fuel cell<br />

Charged by<br />

regenerative<br />

braking<br />

M/G<br />

M/G<br />

M/G<br />

M/G<br />

M/G<br />

Battery<br />

Battery<br />

Battery<br />

Battery<br />

Battery<br />

Charged by<br />

external<br />

power source<br />

Fuel tank<br />

Fuel tank<br />

Fuel tank<br />

H2 tank<br />

H<strong>EV</strong> PH<strong>EV</strong> B<strong>EV</strong> ER<strong>EV</strong> FC<strong>EV</strong><br />

Engine Y Y N N Fuel cell<br />

Regen.<br />

brake<br />

Y Y Y Y Y<br />

External N Y Y Y N<br />

Large battery capacity for long range travelling -> Charging by external power<br />

source is definitely necessary<br />

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AC (Normal and fast charge) DC (Quick charge)<br />

Phase/Voltage 1 P/230 V 3 P/400 V -/400-500 V<br />

Power 3.3-7.4 kW 10-43 kW ≥ 50 kW<br />

Charging time<br />

(Ex. Battery capacity 24 kWh)<br />

3-7 hr.<br />

(Full charge)<br />

0.5-2 hr.<br />

(Full charge)<br />

< 30 min.<br />

(80% charge only)<br />

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Global cumulative number of P<strong>EV</strong>s * (B<strong>EV</strong>+PH<strong>EV</strong>) has reached 1.2 millions in 2015<br />

1 million<br />

P<strong>EV</strong>s<br />

B<strong>EV</strong><br />

*P<strong>EV</strong>s: Plug-in <strong>Electric</strong> <strong>Vehicle</strong>s (B<strong>EV</strong> + PH<strong>EV</strong>)<br />

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Global cumulative number of <strong>EV</strong> charging outlets, 2010-2015, has reached<br />

1.45 millions outlets.<br />

(thousands)<br />

Note: Slow chargers include AC<br />

chargers with charging power<br />

≤22 kW. Fast chargers include<br />

AC chargers with charging power<br />

43 kW, DC chargers, Tesla<br />

Superchargers and inductive<br />

chargers.<br />

• As of 2015,the numbers of private charger are 1.3 millions outlets, publicly low charger are ∼162,000 outlets and publicly<br />

fast charger are ∼28,000 outlets respectively.<br />

• Top 3 countries: US, China and Japan<br />

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A key driver to boost the <strong>EV</strong> ecosystem – THE POLICY<br />

Level Target Scope Type Tool<br />

• National<br />

• State/<br />

provincial<br />

• Municipal<br />

Ex:<br />

• Private<br />

customers<br />

• Industry<br />

• Public sector<br />

• <strong>Vehicle</strong><br />

• Charging<br />

infrastructure<br />

• Financial<br />

• Target/bans/<br />

mandates<br />

• Public<br />

procurement<br />

• Others<br />

A federal funding programme that contributed to 36,500 publicly accessible charging<br />

outlets in place in 2015.<br />

A partnership with a retailer for the installation of 500 fast chargers and 650 standards<br />

chargers at its stores, providing 2/3 of funding.<br />

• Fiscal-Tax<br />

incentive/<br />

penalty<br />

• Direct financial<br />

subsidy<br />

• Mandates<br />

&Targets<br />

• Product<br />

standards<br />

• Public<br />

expenditure<br />

• <strong>Electric</strong>ity<br />

rates<br />

• Etc.<br />

From March 2015, the CH government has mandated that parking spaces in new<br />

residential bldg. & at least 10% of public parking should have <strong>EV</strong> charging infrastructure.<br />

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High cost of Li-ion battery. Besides Li, Cd is relatively expensive and<br />

toxic.<br />

Critical Raw Materials (Rare Earths (for example neodymium,<br />

dysprosium; Special Metals etc.) – many of them not available in<br />

Europe<br />

Range small compared to ICE cars and temperature dependant<br />

Low Comfort Level (Heating ; other energy consumers..)<br />

Long Loading Times<br />

*Hawkins, Troy R.; Singh, Bhawna; Majeau-Bettez, Guillaume; Strømman, Anders Hammer (February 2012).<br />

"Comparative Environmental Life Cycle Assessment of Conventional and <strong>Electric</strong> <strong>Vehicle</strong>s". Journal of<br />

Industrial Ecology. 17 (1): 53–64<br />

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E-Mobility<br />

Connected<br />

Mobility of the<br />

Future<br />

Autonomous<br />

Driving<br />

Shared<br />

Mobility<br />

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Emerging new service platforms of<br />

transportation is customized and<br />

convenient for consumers.<br />

Driverless system must be relied on<br />

safety and convenient in driving<br />

including effectively connecting with<br />

other cars.<br />

1 2<br />

Share services<br />

Autonomous or<br />

self-driving vehicle<br />

3<br />

Green mobility<br />

Automotive Industry<br />

of the Future<br />

4<br />

Digitalization of automotive<br />

products and process<br />

management<br />

Car Emission would be reduced with<br />

electrification system both vehicle<br />

technologies (PH<strong>EV</strong>/B<strong>EV</strong>) and traffic<br />

management in urban areas.<br />

Infrastructure and<br />

transportation should<br />

support digital driving<br />

system.<br />

Connectivity in supply<br />

chain by digital system will<br />

come into play.<br />

Source : Mckinsey & Company , Mercedes-Benz , PWC<br />

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Expected<br />

Cost<br />

HV battery<br />

system costs<br />

200 – 300<br />

€ / kWh<br />

150 € / kWh HV<br />

battery system<br />

costs<br />

100 € / kWh <strong>EV</strong> >=<br />

conventional<br />

Conventional<br />

powertrain costs<br />

2015 2020 2025 2030<br />

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Drivetrain<br />

Diesel Gasoline<br />

now<br />

Future<br />

Hybrid<br />

eDrive<br />

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S-Class GLE GLC GLC COUPE<br />

C-Class<br />

C-Class Estate<br />

C-Class LWB<br />

E-Class<br />

2014 2016<br />

2015<br />

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Ready for the market<br />

50%<br />

Greater<br />

China<br />

25%<br />

NAFTA<br />

WEU<br />

15%<br />

100%<br />

<strong>EV</strong> Share<br />

Mercedes-Benz Cars<br />

Sales 2025<br />

Highest Potential <strong>EV</strong><br />

Share Mercedes-Benz<br />

Cars 2025<br />

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smart electric drive -<br />

fortwo and forfour<br />

Intelligent <strong>EV</strong>-Architecture<br />

Battery-electric vehicle<br />

with up to 500 km range<br />

smart fortwo<br />

electric drive<br />

SLS AMG<br />

Coupé <strong>Electric</strong><br />

Drive<br />

B 250 e<br />

Mercedes-Benz GLC F-CELL<br />

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30%<br />

reduction fuel<br />

cell engine size<br />

90%<br />

reduction of<br />

Platinum<br />

2010: Underfloor package<br />

206 g Platinum<br />

4 kW / m 2 active area Screw<br />

compressor<br />

2017: Compartment<br />

package<br />

20 g Platinum<br />

9 kW / m 2 active area<br />

<strong>Electric</strong> turbo charger with<br />

turbine<br />

30%<br />

40%<br />

higher electric<br />

range in future<br />

vehicles<br />

higher mileage<br />

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AC Charging<br />

DC Charging<br />

Inductive Charging<br />

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Customer<br />

requirements<br />

available fast<br />

intelligent<br />

comfortable<br />

<strong>Electric</strong> <strong>Vehicle</strong><br />

Friends<br />

Gym<br />

Rest stop<br />

Parking lot<br />

Park<br />

Zoo<br />

Super market<br />

Stadium<br />

Parking lot<br />

Restaurant<br />

Charging Infrastructure<br />

highway<br />

Mall<br />

@home<br />

Bakery<br />

@work<br />

Cinema<br />

Parking lot<br />

POI<br />

Digital Services<br />

Airport<br />

public<br />

Private trip<br />

Daily<br />

business<br />

Holidays<br />

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Extension<br />

Production space stocked up<br />

from 20,000 to 60,000 m 2<br />

2 nd plant start of operations:<br />

mid 2018<br />

Production of Li-Ion batteries<br />

for hybrid as well as electric<br />

vehicles and energy storage<br />

systems<br />

Deutsche ACCUMOTIVE GmbH & Co.<br />

KG, Kamenz, Germany<br />

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<strong>EV</strong> needs light martials for its chassis and body. Aluminum alloys<br />

and carbon composites are replacing heavy steel<br />

Li-ion battery uses Li as the anode. Graphite as the cathode .<br />

Li is sensitive to air and moisture to ignite.<br />

Copper will be heavily consumed , 80 kilos per car. If in 2035, 140<br />

million <strong>EV</strong> on the road ( 8% of total fleets of light vehicles). <strong>EV</strong> will<br />

consume 1/3 of total global copper demand .<br />

By 2025, . <strong>EV</strong> could replace 2 million barrel a day of oil demand and<br />

increasing (w/w will consume 100 million barrel of oil per day)<br />

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Lithium-ion batteries are main battery for all<br />

rechargeable applications from cell phones to electrical<br />

cars to renewable energy farm.<br />

Graphite is used in the other electrode 99.9%) purity as<br />

anode-grade. Graphene is ideal for use in in battery<br />

because of its net-like structure that allow Li atoms<br />

through, speeding up charge and discharge times.<br />

Most Li-ion battery contain graphite 55% more than Li<br />

(55 pounds in large <strong>EV</strong> battery)<br />

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Lithium Cobalt Oxide ( 60% Co has highest density, using<br />

mainly in cell phone and lab top)<br />

Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt Oxide(10-20% Co has<br />

lower density but can handle larger energy loading and<br />

makes it safer in large batteries in <strong>EV</strong>)<br />

And finally Lithium NickleCobalt Aluminium Oxide ( 9%<br />

Co, lower density, high load battery , good for large scale<br />

project )<br />

Co is found in mining of Ni. Cobalite ( CoAsS) is<br />

important deposite in Congo. Mining of Co causes<br />

poisonous of Arsenic to steam and Arsenic fume in<br />

smelting<br />

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World is looking to use non-Cobalt in Li compound<br />

Li-battery station provides peak hour electrical power<br />

plant to cover times of excess demand..300 megawatts<br />

of battery storage is building in California.<br />

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Cluster structure and supply chain in Thailand automotive industry<br />

Supporting industries<br />

Machinery, Tools and Mechanical devices, Molding etc.<br />

Target<br />

World<br />

Ranking<br />

12 th<br />

Production<br />

Base<br />

Motorcycle<br />

Assembly<br />

8 Companies<br />

8 firms<br />

Car and Pickup truck<br />

Assembly<br />

17 companies,<br />

23 firms<br />

Assembly Group<br />

*Car Assembly<br />

100,000 people<br />

•Distributor,<br />

•Service center<br />

200,000 people<br />

Auto parts Producers<br />

(386 companies)<br />

Motorcycle parts Producers<br />

(201 companies)<br />

Engines, Drivetrains, Steering, Suspension,<br />

Brake Wheel, Tire, Bodyworks,<br />

Interiors, Electronics Systems<br />

Tier 1<br />

Small and Medium<br />

Auto parts producers<br />

(1,700 companies)<br />

Stamping, plastics, rubber, machining,<br />

casting, forging, function, electrical,<br />

trimming<br />

Tier 2 & 3<br />

Auto parts Producers 450,000 people<br />

Supporting Industries 100,000 people<br />

Services<br />

industries<br />

- Distribution W/H<br />

- Finance<br />

- Assess<br />

- Specific Adviser<br />

- Logistic<br />

- Leasing, Banking<br />

Upstream industries<br />

Iron and Steel, Plastics, Rubber, Electronics, glass and mirror,<br />

Textile and Leather, Petrochemical, Painting and Coating<br />

More than 2,500 companies<br />

Entrepreneur Associations and<br />

Institutions<br />

Academic and Technical<br />

Institution<br />

Policy group and supporting organizations<br />

Government


Export value of Thailand automotive and auto parts industries<br />

THAILAND AUTOMOTIVE<br />

AND MOTORCYCLE<br />

EXPORT VALUE<br />

(MILLION BAHT)<br />

2015 Total export value<br />

1.2 Trillion Baht<br />

MB.<br />

THAILAND AUTO PARTS<br />

EXPORT VALUE<br />

(MILLION BAHT)<br />

MB.<br />

Source : TAI/ TAPMA<br />

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Thai automotive production is close to 2 million cars. It is the 12 th world’s car<br />

production of 91 million cars.<br />

It accounts to almost 1.5 trillion baht in total value chain.<br />

Always, Automotive industry is key driver in development of<br />

steel, petrochemical and rubber industries.<br />

<br />

Automotive and tire industries consume 65% of total rubber. And Thailand<br />

is the largest NR producer, at 4.5 mil. tons.<br />

65% of Innovation Group’s revenue is generated from products and service<br />

to automotive industry.<br />

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Weather strip<br />

Grommet<br />

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Hoses and Fuel Hoses<br />

Anti vibration parts<br />

Engine Mount<br />

Intake hoses<br />

Brake-Clutch parts<br />

Dustproof cover<br />

Oil Seal<br />

Bush<br />

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WIPER BLADE<br />

WEATHERSTRIPS<br />

GASKETS<br />

HOSES<br />

O-RING<br />

BELTS<br />

ANTI-VIBRATIONS<br />

CUSHION<br />

BOOTS<br />

GROMMETS<br />

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Comparison of RM cost for ICE vs. B<strong>EV</strong><br />

Part Weigth (g) Kind of Rubber<br />

RM cost ( / car)<br />

ICE<br />

B<strong>EV</strong><br />

wind shield & weather strip 4,300 EPDM 390<br />

Brake 250 EPDM 30<br />

Air condition hose 220<br />

EPDM , FKM<br />

Polyamide<br />

70<br />

Grommet 410 EPDM 35<br />

Wiper Blade 75 NR 10<br />

O-Ring & Seal 120 NBR, EPDM 60<br />

Brake 260 EPDM 35<br />

Body Cushion 300 NR 30<br />

Boot 1,000 EPDM, CR 130<br />

Strut 2,000 NR 200<br />

other rubber 200 NR, EPDM 20<br />

Belt 400 CR/HNBR 60<br />

Fuel hose 960 FKM, ECO, CSM 200<br />

Power steering hose 900 FKM, CSM, CR 500<br />

Air intake hose 500 ACM, ECO 175<br />

Turbo charger 500 FKM/Silicone 300<br />

Radiator hose 500 EPDM 100<br />

Oil seal & gasket 240 NBR/FKM 240<br />

Engine mount 410 NR/CR 40<br />

Engine Cushion 515 NR 80<br />

Total 2,705 1,010


Total weight of rubber part in car<br />

14 KGs<br />

30% Reduced<br />

• ICE car consists of rubber part for 14 kg<br />

approximately (not including tires).<br />

• B<strong>EV</strong> has no combustion engine and fuel<br />

system. So, rubber part around an<br />

engine, fuel transferring system and fuel tank<br />

are not necessary.<br />

ICE<br />

wind shield & weather strip<br />

Brake<br />

Wiper Blade<br />

Anti-Vibration<br />

Engine<br />

B<strong>EV</strong><br />

Cooling system<br />

Grommet<br />

Suspension<br />

Others rubber<br />

Fuel system<br />

• Discarding rubber part in engine and fuel<br />

system, 70% of rubber part still be remained.<br />

• However, those parts that disappear are the<br />

high performance rubber parts which always<br />

challenge technical development in rubber.<br />

These rubber parts are high value products for<br />

improvement of engine performance, bio-fuel<br />

and environmental regulations<br />

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Materials<br />

• Oil and high temperature resistant materials will decrease<br />

in usage in B<strong>EV</strong>.<br />

• Inflammable and high voltage resistant materials will be<br />

required for the part that connect to electrical<br />

equipment, motor and battery in B<strong>EV</strong>.<br />

• Heat generated in motor and battery storage area is less<br />

than ICE, rubber part is probably replaced by new<br />

composite materials in plastic and rubber. “TPV” is a new<br />

challenging materials will be using more in those areas.<br />

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Green Tires<br />

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Concept Tires<br />

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Goodyear’s<br />

Round shaped Tire<br />

for <strong>EV</strong><br />

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No Flat Tire<br />

No need to carry spare<br />

Low rolling-resistance<br />

Recyclable flexible materials<br />

Applicable to heavy duty tires<br />

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tough materials of Polyurethane<br />

and glass reinforced are used<br />

Michelin X Tweel<br />

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Generate electric for <strong>EV</strong><br />

By converting friction<br />

heat of tire and road and<br />

tire flex into electric<br />

It can also collect heat<br />

from sun in hot air to<br />

generate electric when<br />

car is not running.<br />

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www.elastomer-polymer.com<br />

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