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When the Blackbird Sings<br />

At the end of the 1980s, the Americans make <strong>Saraya</strong> with high-class hard<br />

rock. But after her much harder second record, singer Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong> withdraws<br />

completely from the public in 1991: ROCKS grants her the first <strong>interview</strong> in a<br />

quarter of a century - and has a lot to report. Also from new <strong>Saraya</strong> music.


When <strong>Saraya</strong>’s first album was released in 1989, few<br />

could fail to predict a successful future for the band.<br />

For women in those days, the male dominated world<br />

of hard rock was not easy. Whilst Lita Ford, Femme<br />

Fatale, Vixen and Chrissy Steele were defined mainly<br />

by their provocative image, female rock singers were<br />

few and far between. In 1987 the New Jersey band,<br />

then going by the name Alsace Lorranie, gained their<br />

recognition through the alluring voice of Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong>.<br />

They began putting together an outstanding debut<br />

album that was bewitching from the first note.<br />

However, shortly after the release of their second<br />

album, Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong> mysteriously disappeared. Since<br />

then nobody heard anything about her. The fact that<br />

until now, she has ignored any questions about this<br />

disappearance leads us to suspect that she left leave the<br />

music industry on a bad note.<br />

“I never gave up singing or<br />

making music. I’ve always loved<br />

music. Today I’m in a new<br />

phase of my life. Now I have<br />

five children who are no longer<br />

quite so dependent upon me.<br />

Apart from my 11 year old, they<br />

are all more or less independent<br />

and can take care of themselves.<br />

This gives me the opportunity<br />

and the time for my music. At<br />

the moment I am working on two projects that will<br />

be recorded in a few months and will be released<br />

sometime in the coming year. I definitely want to tour<br />

again.”<br />

As the band gained more and more recognition in<br />

the late 80s, it appeared to be a dream come true for<br />

the singer. “I had a great band, a great album and our<br />

videos were appearing on MTV. My mum always said<br />

how proud she was that I had found such indescribable<br />

happiness. I was young and ambitious and hat<br />

everything that I had ever wished for, but despite all<br />

this, I never felt completely fulfilled. Something was<br />

missing. When our album “<strong>Saraya</strong>” was released,<br />

I should have been really happy, but in fact I felt<br />

the opposite. I would go as far as to say I was truly<br />

depressed.”<br />

Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong> and keyboard player Gregg Munier had<br />

already played in several bands together. Now it was<br />

time to turn her back on her home on the east coast of<br />

America and to search for happiness in LA.<br />

“I don’t want to go into great detail, but at the time<br />

I had a very well-known and influential manager. As<br />

things became more and more complicated between<br />

us, it couldn’t carry on, but he threatened to ensure<br />

that I would never achieve anything on the East Coast<br />

with any band in the world. So Gregg and I packed our<br />

bags and set off through America to start again from<br />

scratch.”<br />

Not everybody in the band managed to settle in LA.<br />

Joined by Danger Danger guitarist Tony “Bruno” Rey,<br />

bassist Gary Taylor and drummer Chick Bonfante,<br />

Alsace Lorraine were soon discovered and signed by<br />

Polygram Records. But not without<br />

certain conditions:<br />

“They wanted us to be known as Sandi<br />

<strong>Saraya</strong>, but for me that was out of the<br />

question. Under no circumstances did<br />

I want to be a solo artist: I wanted to be<br />

part of a band. Then they wanted to put a<br />

photo of me in a see-through miniskirt<br />

on the album cover. They wanted to<br />

promote our records by making a sex<br />

symbol of me, like Lita Ford or Lorraine<br />

Lewis. That might have worked for them<br />

but for me it was unthinkable. In the end there was<br />

a compromise: I put forward my idea for the album<br />

cover, that I hid myself amongst the band members so<br />

nobody could tell if I was a woman or a man. I agreed<br />

to the name change – as long as they took it down to<br />

just <strong>Saraya</strong>. If you weren’t already a superstar, you had<br />

no choice but to do as the record company told you.<br />

Polygram wanted me as a female Bon Jovi who they<br />

could market through my image. But that wouldn’t<br />

have been me.”<br />

Their first album sold well: there was only one song<br />

that appeared on MTV that was of the party-hardrock<br />

genre.<br />

Apart from that, <strong>Saraya</strong> were associated with a serious,<br />

rich sound: a mixture between Whitesnake and<br />

Heart, with a singer and front-woman whose voice<br />

was reminiscent of a combination of Ann Wilson,


Allanah Myles and<br />

Pat Banatar. Hard<br />

rock classics such as<br />

“Gypsy Child” and<br />

the comparatively<br />

clumsy “One Night<br />

Away”, the hits “Love<br />

Has Taken its Toll” (position<br />

64 in the charts), and the<br />

double bass and organ runs<br />

on their cover of Rainbow’s<br />

“Running Out of Time”<br />

brought the album straight<br />

into the top 80.<br />

<strong>Saraya</strong> were produced by Jeff<br />

Glixman, who in the 1970s<br />

was responsible for acts such<br />

as Leftover, and the first<br />

solo work of Paul Stanley,<br />

and who shortly before he<br />

began working with <strong>Saraya</strong>,<br />

was responsible for creating<br />

the outstanding sound of Black<br />

Sabbath’s “The Eternal Idol”.<br />

“I know that many people find<br />

our records to be too smooth and<br />

overproduced, but they should<br />

have heard them before Jeff came<br />

to them. The label wanted us to<br />

sound sugary sweet but Jeff brought<br />

a hard, raw quality back into our<br />

music. He was a blessing!”<br />

A few years later, the band begin<br />

working on their second album<br />

“When the Blackbird Sings”, and<br />

things began to change, not least<br />

for the singer personally.<br />

“It sounds pathetic, but it is what<br />

it is: I found God. I come from a<br />

Catholic family but religion was<br />

never really of any consequence<br />

to me. I suddenly became aware<br />

that some of the songs that I<br />

was currently writing had many<br />

similarities to certain stories in the<br />

bible – even though I have never<br />

read it. I’ve never spoken openly<br />

about it, but my relationship<br />

with God has changed my whole<br />

perspective.”<br />

Meanwhile, bassist Gary Taylor<br />

left the band, making place for<br />

Barry Dunaway, who had already<br />

played for Lou Gramm and Yngwie<br />

Malmsteen. Disappointed about the<br />

new addition to the band, Munier<br />

also turned his back on <strong>Saraya</strong>.<br />

“The songs on the second album<br />

were much harder and more guitar<br />

orientated than on the debut.<br />

Gregg felt that he no longer had a<br />

place in the band. I did everything<br />

I could to try and persuade him<br />

to stay but nothing worked. I<br />

don’t think he’s ever truly got over<br />

not being part of <strong>Saraya</strong>. He was<br />

unbelievably important to me, both<br />

as a musician and as a friend.”<br />

In their concerts, the keyboarder<br />

was replaced by a second<br />

guitarist. Gregg Murnier died of<br />

pneumonia in 2006.<br />

The already noticeably harder<br />

songs on The Blackbird<br />

Sings maintain the exquisite<br />

sound that Peter Collins had<br />

created for them. Before this,<br />

the reputable producer was<br />

already responsible for creating<br />

the sound of Queensryche’s<br />

“Operation: Mindcrime and<br />

Empire” and brought a similar<br />

tone to <strong>Saraya</strong>’s second album.<br />

In the explosive “Bring Back the<br />

Light and “When You See Me<br />

Again” the rich sounding phrases<br />

are reminiscent of a mixture of<br />

Queensryche, Ratt and Heart.<br />

In 1991, six months after the<br />

release of “When the Blackbird<br />

Sings”, the band split up.<br />

“I simply lost the will to continue.<br />

At the time, we were being<br />

managed by a huge company called<br />

Q Prime. Peter Mensch and Cliff<br />

Burnstein were wonderful people,<br />

but were much too busy with their<br />

most important bands – Metallica<br />

and Def Leppard – to take care of<br />

us. It all fell on me to organise<br />

tours and to decide what we should<br />

be doing next. I had to make sure<br />

that our merchandise was selling<br />

and that the others didn’t drink too<br />

much. I had to throw the groupies<br />

off the bus. In short, I was suddenly<br />

playing mum to these guys!”<br />

The fact that Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong> had<br />

married Tesla bassist Brian Wheat<br />

didn’t help the situation. In fact it<br />

was the opposite.<br />

“I was with him for a reason, but I<br />

wasn’t really in it for the marriage.


He was very convincing though and in the end I gave<br />

in. But how is a relationship supposed to work when<br />

you spend the majority of time apart from one another<br />

on tour? He would just come back from Japan and I’d<br />

already be on the way to gigs in Canada. That’s how<br />

it was the whole time. I knew it wouldn’t work out<br />

with us. I gave up the band to save our marriage. I’d<br />

had enough. I loved music more than anything but I<br />

hated the music business and everything it stands for.<br />

I didn’t want anything more to do with it. I have to<br />

say too that the harsh criticism we received for “When<br />

The Blackbird Sings” really affected me too. It had all<br />

become too much for me.”<br />

After the split, Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong> disappeared completely<br />

from the public eye. She had no ambition to start<br />

a new band, and the thought of a solo career didn’t<br />

appeal to her. Her marriage to Wheat ended in<br />

divorce. She is now happily married to Brendan Kelly<br />

and is enjoying a family life.<br />

“Throughout these years, I have received offers to join<br />

other bands or to sing on records but I turned them all<br />

down. I never wanted to go back to my old life. I’ve<br />

continued to sing, because I love singing, but I’ve done<br />

whatever I can to cover all traces of myself. Somewhere<br />

along the way, someone caught wind of my past, so<br />

I stopped singing in church. I wanted to remain<br />

anonymous and not be associated in anyway with my<br />

old life.”<br />

One day, Sandra <strong>Saraya</strong> Salvador Kelly did return to<br />

the stage – with a Sinatra impersonator, she laughs.<br />

“We were with a thirty piece orchestra and played songs<br />

by Billie Holiday and Ella Fitzgerald. It was amazing.”<br />

However, the project ended when the leader of the<br />

orchestra died of a heart attack on stage. After that,<br />

the singer decided to get her foot back in the door of<br />

the music world. In 2010 she sang in “Shame” - a song<br />

on the album by the early TNT Singer Tony Harness<br />

and his band The Mercury Train – but this ended in<br />

disaster. The highlight of her comeback came when<br />

she was asked to perform at a festival in England.<br />

However, the gig was cancelled at short notice.”<br />

“Tony Bruno spoke to me about doing a concert. I<br />

could see that happening, but then I never heard<br />

anything more from him. Suddenly during this time,<br />

my husband became ill: he had serious problems with<br />

his back and for some time was unable to move. I<br />

had to take care of him and five young children. I<br />

hadn’t forgotten about the concert, but I hadn’t heard<br />

any more from him and nobody had sent me a<br />

confirmation or any other details. Then one day, the<br />

telephone rang and Tony wanted to know if it could go<br />

ahead. But I had lots of people dependent on me. I was<br />

truly sorry but I couldn’t go ahead with it anymore.”<br />

Tony Bruno wouldn’t let the idea go. He kept ringing<br />

her to find out if there might be a better time for a<br />

Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong> revival. She kept on turning it down,<br />

until in January <strong>2017</strong> she felt confident that the time<br />

was right.<br />

“It’s true! We are currently working on the third<br />

<strong>Saraya</strong> album!” She is also involved in a project with<br />

Bulletboys guitarist Mick Sweda, a good portion of<br />

which is already finished. She promises “sexy rock<br />

n roll”. She has a good feeling about this project, she<br />

explains excitedly.<br />

“My kids always complain that my music is so old<br />

fashioned. One day following a session in Mick’s studio,<br />

I put one of the songs on in the car: “End of Us”.<br />

Straight away my daughter, who is my harshest critic,<br />

wanted to know: ‘Mommy, who’s that singing?’ She<br />

couldn’t believe that I sounded so young! Then I knew<br />

it: when you set your mind to something, you can truly<br />

make it happen.”<br />

After a quarter of a century, Sandi <strong>Saraya</strong> has<br />

discovered new found joy in the music business and is<br />

really throwing herself into it.<br />

“Do I ever regret being out of the music business for so<br />

long and turning down so many offers to return? Of<br />

course I do! At the time, I just wasn’t in the right place<br />

to be out there in the public eye. But now I am. I have<br />

more faith in myself now than ever before. Tony and<br />

Mick are amazing at what they do. And I know Brian<br />

Wheat is by my side too. These days, my ex-husband<br />

is probably my best friend and is really supportive of<br />

me. All these years he has been trying to get me back<br />

into the music business. It’s strange how these things<br />

happen. But I’ve learned a lot in life and now I’m<br />

prepared for everything – whatever comes along!”

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