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that is for me to learn from. If I stopped every time I<br />

didn’t know something, I wouldn’t do anything. Music<br />

for one thing, the degree of how good you can be is<br />

dependent on how bad you can be. If you aren’t willing<br />

to suck, you’re not going to get better. Be honest with<br />

yourself.<br />

KN: Let’s talk a bit about your photography.<br />

SL: If I had one truth, a truth about being an artist, it is<br />

that our greatest gift is our pain. The gift is contained<br />

in our wounds. We learn from it. That realization was a<br />

sea-change for me. Our gift is contained in our wound,<br />

as Robert Bly said to me once. Thankfully, I’m an artist<br />

and this is good for me.<br />

Even though I have spent years studying the technical<br />

aspects of photography and with an 8x10 camera there<br />

are lot’s of technical aspects, it is really the emotional<br />

skills I have developed which drive my work. Although<br />

I am a photographer I consider the heart of my work to<br />

be more than merely visual. And what I’m most after,<br />

whether in a landscape or a portrait is actually unseen,<br />

timeless, beyond the temporal world.<br />

I’m currently working on a book of portraits of<br />

older rock icons. The point of these portraits is that<br />

we’ve had a lifetime of learning both as people and as<br />

musicians. I want to show to the world, who we are<br />

Brighton Beach Pier<br />

NOW.<br />

Most of what we see of rock musicians, and this<br />

goes double for my generation of punk musicians is<br />

what they were doing when they were young. Punk in<br />

it’s heydey seemed all about youth, but we are now<br />

upwards of 50 and many of us are more active then<br />

ever. Many of these people have realized they still have<br />

something important to say. I believe that what drove<br />

us then is not actually about youth but who we were<br />

and as we’ve aged we’ve become more interesting and<br />

empowered towards action. Sure many are not as<br />

famous or on the radio but there is more to a person<br />

than just fame. I recently made a portrait of Alice Bag,<br />

a pioneer female punk star, and believe me whatever<br />

gravitas she had in her youth, She is way more<br />

powerful now. This is constantly confirmed for me in<br />

these portraits.<br />

My approach as an artist, is to take the darkness out<br />

into the light. Too find the viewpoint not usually seen.<br />

Under piers, behind the mask of stardom. I’ve trained<br />

myself to respond to more than what my eyes show<br />

me. That which is untrue is like a shadow, and if you<br />

expose it, it will disappear. Turn on the light, and the<br />

shadow is gone. You can’t be afraid. If you take the nottruth<br />

out into the light you can see how false it is. That<br />

realization has lead me on my path as an artist.<br />

Of course I’m dangerously mixing my metaphors since<br />

as a photographer, balancing shadow and light is really<br />

what I do.<br />

Art is all about challenging beliefs about yourself.<br />

Ultimately, the act of creating art is that process. In its<br />

purest form, it’s the idea of having an opinion. Being an<br />

artist is about trusting your insides even though most of<br />

the world doesn’t. It’s always a challenge of trusting of<br />

what you experience. I’ve done a lot of work to actively<br />

trust what I want, but also to be willing to live with the<br />

disappointment of not getting it.<br />

Katie Nartonis is an Art + Design writer, curator and<br />

auction specialist based out of Los Angeles, California and<br />

sometimes Taos, New Mexico. Earlier this year she curated<br />

“Nature: Human Nature” an art + design show at Loft at<br />

Liz’s gallery in Los Angeles. She is currently co-writing and<br />

publishing a book on the late San Diego designer/maker,<br />

“Jack Rogers Hopkins: California Maverick”(with Co-Writer/Editor<br />

Jeffrey Head). She is the founder of The Nartonis<br />

Project and is Art + Design Editor of SoCal Magazine. www.<br />

thenartonisproject.com<br />

Huntington Beach Pier<br />

Stephen was recently made a member of<br />

the Pasadena Society of Artists.<br />

He will have some pieces an the upcoming<br />

show<br />

PSA New Member show Saturday Feb 2<br />

2-4pm<br />

McGinty’s Gallery at the End of the World.<br />

869 E. Mariposa st Altadena Ca 91011<br />

www.<strong>stephen</strong>linsley.com<br />

SoCal Magazine socalmag.com winter 2019

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