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12—SATURDAY Vanguard, JUNE 15, 2019<br />

Continues from pg 11<br />

happens. An implosion will happen<br />

or why did we go for June 12<br />

struggle? It is because the military<br />

was cheating us. Nobody put them<br />

there, they put themselves and were<br />

cheating Nigerians. That’s why we<br />

went for June 12 struggle. Talking is<br />

not enough. Action speaks louder<br />

than words and that was what June<br />

12 struggle was about. We were<br />

saying enough is enough and that is<br />

what struggle is all about. During<br />

June 12, journalists suffered. There<br />

was the militant press and they were<br />

banned, they were shut down. I still<br />

remember those magazines: The<br />

News, Tempo, Punch, Guardian,<br />

Concord. They all joined the<br />

struggle. But now, everywhere has<br />

been monetised, every institution has<br />

been monetised including<br />

Journalists, Labour leaders. They<br />

have been monetised. The police<br />

and the judiciary are the problems<br />

we have in this country.<br />

The declaration of June 12 as<br />

Democracy Day is much deeper than<br />

we think. The annulment of the<br />

election, considered Nigeria’s freest<br />

ever, and the detention of Abiola led<br />

to major protests and strikes by<br />

workers’ unions. NUPENG launched<br />

a nationwide strike in 1994<br />

condemning the annulment and<br />

demanding that Abiola be freed and<br />

inaugurated. I was arrested in<br />

August of the same year and<br />

detained without charges by the Sani<br />

<strong>Abacha</strong> military government. I was<br />

put in solitary confinement in Bama<br />

Prison. I was released in 1998 when<br />

General Abdulsalam Abubakar, who<br />

succeeded <strong>Abacha</strong> came into power<br />

and ordered my release as well as<br />

that of other detained political<br />

activists and journalists.<br />

I was declared Prisoner of<br />

Conscience by the late Nelson<br />

Mandela and Pope Saint John Paul<br />

II in 1997 and the International<br />

Labour Organi<strong>sat</strong>ion (ILO), Amnesty<br />

International (AI) declared me<br />

prisoner of conscience between<br />

August 1994 and June 1998.<br />

Now, knowing where I am coming<br />

from, you should know how it feels to<br />

be messed with by a man like Dr<br />

Chris Ngige. It is a terrible thing in<br />

our democracy for certain people to<br />

hijack the process and destroy the<br />

tenets of democracy.<br />

You talked about moneti<strong>sat</strong>ion, are<br />

you aware that NLC we have today<br />

is no longer as strong as it used to be<br />

and cannot lead a struggle?<br />

Forget about that. The NLC in my<br />

days betrayed me and betrayed the<br />

June 12 struggle. So, I used the oil<br />

workers to fight that battle. When I<br />

talked in the National Executive<br />

Council, they betrayed me. Most of<br />

them were bribed, that was why<br />

NUPENG and PENGASSAN, the oil<br />

workers took over the struggle. Do<br />

you know the efforts we made? That<br />

was why they locked me up. Did<br />

NLC then fight for me? It was only<br />

NUPENG that fought for me. The<br />

leadership of NLC at that time<br />

betrayed me, betrayed the revolution<br />

that I was leading. In fact, we were<br />

succeeding. We were almost taking<br />

out the military by force. We were<br />

close to removing <strong>Abacha</strong>. <strong>If</strong> I wasn’t<br />

captured, in a matter of weeks, that<br />

government <strong>would</strong> have fallen. The<br />

military were getting in touch with us<br />

at the time and we were succeeding.<br />

I <strong>would</strong> have<br />

overthrown<br />

<strong>Abacha</strong> if . . .<br />

The civilians alone cannot overthrow<br />

government, the military must be<br />

part of a revolution. The ordinary<br />

man with placards cannot succeed in<br />

a revolution, the military must be<br />

part of a revolution.<br />

Democracy is what<br />

reigns now and<br />

nonody looks forward<br />

to a military<br />

revolution anymore.<br />

It is global and no<br />

reasonable person<br />

should call for it. The<br />

people at the helm of<br />

affairs are also ex<br />

military.<br />

Whenever there is<br />

confusion, the military<br />

is split into two, even<br />

the June 12 struggle,<br />

the military was part<br />

of it but these are<br />

private things to me<br />

which I cannot talk<br />

about in the open and<br />

it is only the<br />

organised labour that<br />

could bring such<br />

situations to the<br />

country.<br />

Look at how the<br />

organised labour stood<br />

up for me during the NSITF saga. I<br />

tried to stop them but they refused.<br />

That is what Labour could do in a<br />

•OBJ, Jonathan<br />

bad situation. The oil union was mad<br />

at government as in how can you do<br />

that to their father? How can Kokori<br />

be oppressed at this stage? It’s the<br />

Acting President and the President<br />

that appointed me<br />

the chairman of<br />

NSITF, not Wabba.<br />

Wabba did not know,<br />

yet, he went on air<br />

and said what<br />

wasn’t true.<br />

Everybody wants<br />

me to come and talk<br />

<strong>Abacha</strong> died<br />

under his<br />

circumstances and<br />

that is why he is<br />

paying. Others who<br />

have been indicted<br />

are not paying.<br />

Nigeria has the<br />

highest number of<br />

rogue politicians in<br />

the world<br />

on air, I tried to<br />

mount pressure on<br />

the organised<br />

labour against<br />

doing what they did<br />

for me so that<br />

nobody <strong>would</strong> say<br />

that Kokori at 75 is<br />

still fomenting<br />

trouble but I<br />

couldn’t stop them.<br />

I guess, if the<br />

dead could laugh,<br />

all those who are<br />

part of June 12<br />

struggle that have<br />

died <strong>would</strong> be<br />

roaring with<br />

laughter in their<br />

graves...<br />

No, they <strong>would</strong> be crying that after<br />

20 years of democracy, Nigeria is still<br />

in mess. They will be happy that<br />

June 12 is now Democracy Day but<br />

when they see what’s going on in<br />

Nigeria, they will cry. Poverty has<br />

gone haywire in these 20 years of<br />

democracy. The only thing is that<br />

they won’t lock you up anyhow<br />

anymore and if they did, you <strong>would</strong><br />

go to court to challenge them. After<br />

two or three weeks, they <strong>would</strong><br />

release you even when you have<br />

stolen N20bn or N40bn.<br />

But even the dead, like former<br />

Head of State, General <strong>Abacha</strong> is<br />

still sending alerts from the grave...<br />

It’s not only <strong>Abacha</strong> that stole<br />

money, others did and they need to<br />

pay up too. <strong>Abacha</strong> died under his<br />

circumstances and that is why he is<br />

paying. Others who have been<br />

indicted are not paying. Nigeria has<br />

the highest number of rogue<br />

politicians in the world. All the<br />

people around him, the only person<br />

who is not making money is Buhari<br />

himself which I think is inbuilt in<br />

him. That’s why I said he<br />

should shine his eyes or these<br />

people will ruin his name. Any<br />

president must give security job to<br />

his people. You don’t compromise<br />

that, some <strong>would</strong> even put their sons<br />

as the head of their security. But he<br />

must keep his eyes on them.<br />

What’s your thought of the new<br />

Democracy Day?<br />

I congratulate Nigerians. Most of<br />

us who fought for June 12 know what<br />

it means. May 29 means nothing to<br />

Nigerians. It was a cheap<br />

contraption which was promoted by<br />

the then President Obasanjo and was<br />

reflected in his style of leadership.<br />

Obasanjo is that kind of person.<br />

Anything he wants is what he does.<br />

He doesn’t take counter-opinions<br />

from citizens.<br />

But you are not saying that 20<br />

years of democracy is a waste?<br />

No. I said I’m disillusioned by 20<br />

years of democracy but there is no<br />

alternative to democracy. I had<br />

expected things to be better in a<br />

democracy but unfortunately, they<br />

are not.

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