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10—SATURDAY Vanguard, JANUARY 9, 2021<br />

Leaders of bandits pocketed<br />

govt money, shortchanged<br />

their foot soldiers<br />

—Journalist who visited them in the forest<br />

explains why y bandits t<br />

<strong>to</strong>ppled their leaders<br />

•Dauji, Abdullahi Kachalla, Bashuje, Dogo Nabajala, Rusku<br />

have taken over from Idris Miyaye, Sheman Daji<br />

•Says bandits now kidnap in presence of security men and<br />

nothing happens<br />

•Recommends negotiation since security men have failed<br />

•Reveals eals dangerous drug they y inject is called ‘Fant<br />

anta’<br />

a’<br />

By Bashir Bello<br />

Lawal Sa’idu, is a Katsina-based journalist. Sometime in 2019, he visited<br />

the bandits in their hideout in Dunbun Muazu and Dankolo in Sabuwa<br />

and Dandume Local Government Area of Katsina state and his<br />

observations and thoughts were published in Vanguard. He feared then that<br />

activities of the bandits could lead <strong>to</strong> famine and that one way <strong>to</strong> end banditry<br />

was <strong>to</strong> engage the bandits in farming after a seeming amnesty that would<br />

disarm them. He said he saw up <strong>to</strong> 1000 bandits wielding AK47 riffles in the<br />

forest, alerting that danger loomed. We reached out <strong>to</strong> Lawal Saidu again last<br />

week and he, again, spoke with us.<br />

Excerpts:<br />

ometime in 2019, you visited the bandits in<br />

SDunbun Muazu and Dankolo in Sabuwa<br />

and Dandume LGAs respectively where they<br />

<strong>to</strong>ld you some conditions <strong>to</strong> cease fire. Are<br />

you still in <strong>to</strong>uch with them?<br />

Even this week, I travelled <strong>to</strong> the area,<br />

especially Dunbun Muazu in Sabuwa LGA.<br />

The issue is that, even with these bandits, their<br />

leadership is never stable. Those I met the<br />

other time when I went there have now been<br />

dislodged by the younger ones. The other time<br />

when I went, the leadership I met were Idris<br />

Miyaye and Sheman Daji. The area is now<br />

controlled by bandits like Dauji, Abdullahi<br />

Kachalla, Bashuje, Dogo Nabajala and Rusku.<br />

I could also recall that as at that time you<br />

said the bandits were of different camps?<br />

There are about five camps now. The last<br />

time I went there, information I got from the<br />

area was that they have been divided in<strong>to</strong><br />

segments with each bandit leader controlling<br />

his area. If there is an attack, the people there<br />

can easily point <strong>to</strong> you that it was carried out<br />

by either Dauji, Kachalla or Bashuje because<br />

they have divided the area among themselves.<br />

But does any of these camps claim<br />

responsibility for attacks like the one on<br />

Kankara students?<br />

No, they don’t have <strong>to</strong> claim responsibility,<br />

everybody knows that they are the ones<br />

operating in that area. They don’t even have <strong>to</strong><br />

claim that they are responsible. When there is<br />

an attack you don’t need any soothsayer <strong>to</strong> tell<br />

that the attack was carried out by so and so<br />

group or person.<br />

What about talks around the conditions for<br />

cease fire? I remember when you visited the<br />

bandits the other time they gave some<br />

conditions?<br />

That time I met with people like Idris<br />

Miyaye. Certainly, they were hopeful that talks<br />

on cease fire would work. Now with the present<br />

crop of leaders, if you have <strong>to</strong> talk about cease<br />

fire, you have <strong>to</strong> start fresh negotiation with<br />

their new leaders. And how sure are you that<br />

the younger ones will not stand up against<br />

them? The past leadership <strong>must</strong> have collected<br />

money from government and pocketed it<br />

without taking care of the youths. That’s why<br />

the young ones are agitating and saying no <strong>to</strong><br />

any cease fire. The danger of agreement is that<br />

if you enter an agreement with them, after<br />

some time, the groups that feel isolated will<br />

turn against them and constitute their own<br />

group. So there is a problem.<br />

Having said there is a problem reaching an<br />

agreement with the bandits, what is the way<br />

out?<br />

The way out is negotiation. It is sad but better.<br />

It is bitter but from what I saw there is no better<br />

way that you can go about this without<br />

negotiation. What they are saying in Dunbun<br />

Muazu is that they carry out some attacks and<br />

kidnap in the presence of the security who<br />

appear helpless and do nothing about it. The<br />

bandits carry victims on mo<strong>to</strong>rcycle and pass<br />

in front of the security men, they will not talk<br />

<strong>to</strong> them, they would not interfere. To me, it<br />

seems they are not ready <strong>to</strong> work, so the only<br />

option for the government is negotiation, no<br />

matter how sad it is. It could be on temporary<br />

basis. If the security men were at work,<br />

certainly they would flush away these bandits.<br />

The <strong>to</strong>wns and villages (communities) close <strong>to</strong><br />

them are at the mercy of the bandits. I was with<br />

a vigilante leader from Dunbun Muazu when<br />

one of the bandits called him and said he needed<br />

two gallons of petroleum. He <strong>to</strong>ld him that he<br />

was not in <strong>to</strong>wn but that he would bring the<br />

fuel when he returned. I asked him where he<br />

would take it <strong>to</strong> and he <strong>to</strong>ld me he would take<br />

it <strong>to</strong> his people. He said if he didn’t comply the<br />

bandits could attack his<br />

community at night. These<br />

people are living like slaves<br />

<strong>to</strong> the bandits. They do<br />

whatever they like and<br />

request whatever they want.<br />

On Security people,<br />

certainly we all know what<br />

is happening, they have<br />

failed <strong>to</strong> do their job, they are<br />

not ready <strong>to</strong> do it. So <strong>to</strong> me,<br />

the only option left for<br />

government is <strong>to</strong> negotiate<br />

with them. And Masari<br />

(Governor of Katsina State)<br />

has said it repeatedly that he<br />

is not in a position <strong>to</strong> direct<br />

either the military or army <strong>to</strong><br />

attack the bandits because<br />

his hands are tied by the<br />

Constitution. It is the<br />

exclusive responsibility of<br />

the Federal Government. But<br />

since they are not ready <strong>to</strong><br />

do the job, what is left for the<br />

state government is <strong>to</strong> go in<strong>to</strong><br />

dialogue with the bandits no<br />

matter how temporary it is.<br />

But the government has<br />

made two attempts <strong>to</strong> dialogue with the<br />

bandits and they failed...<br />

It is good <strong>to</strong> ask questions. Why did the other<br />

peace deal collapse? These are questions<br />

government should ask. When I went there<br />

the last time, I had discussion with people<br />

around there (Dunbun Muazu) and they said<br />

that government should constitute a committee<br />

that would be meeting with them. That didn’t<br />

happen. Now, they are living at the mercy of<br />

the bandits. If you want <strong>to</strong> go <strong>to</strong> your farm <strong>to</strong><br />

harvest your crops, you have <strong>to</strong> hire the bandits<br />

The bandits carry<br />

victims on mo<strong>to</strong>rcycle<br />

and pass in front of the<br />

security men, they will not<br />

talk <strong>to</strong> them, they would<br />

not interfere. To me, it<br />

seems they are not ready<br />

<strong>to</strong> work, so the only option<br />

for the government is<br />

negotiation, no matter<br />

how sad it is<br />

• Lawal Sa'idu<br />

<strong>to</strong> go and guard the farm. So, if you encourage<br />

them <strong>to</strong> dialogue among themselves, it is<br />

better than this jamboree of carrying people<br />

like in political rally <strong>to</strong> go there for peace deal.<br />

Taking crowd there and showing the world<br />

will not work. Get a small committee <strong>to</strong> be<br />

meeting with them. That is the only way.<br />

Are you saying there is compromise on the<br />

part of the military because many people kept<br />

on wondering how the Kankara schoolboys<br />

were abducted?<br />

You cannot say compromise because they<br />

only work on order. You don’t know what is<br />

happening, maybe they were not ordered <strong>to</strong><br />

attack the bandits. You can not say compromise,<br />

only God knows who is protecting who, the<br />

more you see the less you understand.<br />

Can the bandits be trusted?<br />

Even if they cannot be trusted, tell me what<br />

other option you have on ground since those<br />

mandated with the task of<br />

going after them do not do<br />

so. Dialogue is the only<br />

option. If there is no<br />

dialogue, they will continue<br />

<strong>to</strong> kill people and the security<br />

will look the other way. Since<br />

the governor cannot order the<br />

military or police <strong>to</strong> attack the<br />

bandits what do you do? If<br />

you look at Katsina, places<br />

like Funtua are now densely<br />

populated because people<br />

deserted their communities<br />

for fear of attacks by the<br />

bandits. People from<br />

Dandume, Sabuwa, Faskari,<br />

have migrated <strong>to</strong> Funtua area<br />

of the state. This is another<br />

problem and challenge. So,<br />

since the government is not<br />

ready <strong>to</strong> tell the security <strong>to</strong> go<br />

after these people, I believe<br />

there is no option other than<br />

dialogue for now no matter<br />

how costly it is.<br />

I ask if the bandits can be<br />

trusted because kidnapping<br />

appears lucrative. Can they<br />

<strong>s<strong>to</strong>p</strong> and can there be an end <strong>to</strong> banditry?<br />

The bandits are human beings, they also<br />

have their needs and demands. If you go <strong>to</strong><br />

their area, they are now locked up in their<br />

encampment, they cannot go in<strong>to</strong> the <strong>to</strong>wn <strong>to</strong><br />

transact businesses and generate money. They<br />

don’t have any option of getting money other<br />

than kidnapping. So, it is left for the<br />

government <strong>to</strong> find a window and that is why<br />

I said dialogue is the best. The other time when<br />

we went there, we had dialogue with the<br />

vigilantes in the area and the Fulanis and even<br />

their leaders were coming <strong>to</strong> the neighbouring<br />

markets <strong>to</strong> transact business and go back. If<br />

you don’t allow them <strong>to</strong> come <strong>to</strong> the <strong>to</strong>wn <strong>to</strong><br />

carry out legitimate business <strong>to</strong> earn money,<br />

they would rebel against the system and resort<br />

<strong>to</strong> attacking travellers and collecting forced<br />

levies, kidnapping people and getting <strong>ransom</strong>.<br />

If I get you right, the message is for<br />

government <strong>to</strong> dialogue with the bandits?<br />

Those whose responsibility it is <strong>to</strong> fight these<br />

bandits are not ready so what do you think<br />

should be done? Unless the state government<br />

wants the bandits <strong>to</strong> continue killing. Just this<br />

morning I got an information from Damari<br />

area that just a little past 12 this morning they<br />

kidnapped nine people in Albasu Limami. This<br />

was a <strong>to</strong>wn that was earlier attacked by the<br />

same bandits on Christmas day where they<br />

kidnapped eight people (two women and six<br />

others). They managed <strong>to</strong> escape when the<br />

bandits were deep asleep. They returned <strong>to</strong><br />

the same <strong>to</strong>wn and kidnapped nine persons<br />

including an SS2 student, his father and others.<br />

If a thief would come <strong>to</strong> a place and steal and<br />

return <strong>to</strong> same area again and again it shows<br />

that the security has collapsed.<br />

With the abduction of Kankara schoolboys<br />

which was the first on any school in the state,<br />

do you think they are getting support from<br />

Boko Haram?<br />

It is not that they getting support from the<br />

Boko Haram. The bandits are learning from<br />

the Boko Haram. Criminals learn from each<br />

other. If you could recall when people were<br />

beheaded in Zabarmari in Borno State, three<br />

days after, six people were also beheaded by<br />

bandits around Sabuwa area. Crime is<br />

universal, they are learning from each other<br />

because the bandits <strong>to</strong>o listen <strong>to</strong> radio, they<br />

have access <strong>to</strong> social media and if it is about<br />

drugs, they also take drugs. There is a<br />

dangerous drug they take now called “Fanta”,<br />

it is sold for N50 in the open market but sold<br />

<strong>to</strong> the bandits for N500. It is an injection,<br />

somebody can take about 10 in a day. This<br />

crime you are seeing happening in <strong>Nigeria</strong>, if<br />

care is not taken it can consume everybody. So<br />

we have <strong>to</strong> move fast, time is not on our side.<br />

The bandits are getting sophisticated. A leader<br />

of vigilante group in Dunbun Muazu was<br />

telling me that he saw one of the bandits<br />

holding a gun he suspected was one of those<br />

recently acquired by our military. So the<br />

government should review its thinking that<br />

all the arms bandits use were smuggled from<br />

neighbouring countries. They should seriously<br />

take an inven<strong>to</strong>ry of their armoury because<br />

some of the guns are from the security<br />

personnel, only God knows how they managed<br />

<strong>to</strong> get them.<br />

Can we trace the origin of the bandits <strong>to</strong><br />

Boko Haram?<br />

No. The bandits don’t even pray. They take<br />

drugs, how can you attribute any ideology <strong>to</strong><br />

them? There’s no link. The bandits carry out<br />

attacks in presence of security personnel. So,<br />

<strong>to</strong> me, it’s either the government facilitates the<br />

dialogue or they should allow the people <strong>to</strong><br />

confront the bandits.

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