09012021 - Nigeria must stop paying ransom to kidnappers
Vanguards Newspaper 09 September 2021
Vanguards Newspaper 09 September 2021
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10—SATURDAY Vanguard, JANUARY 9, 2021<br />
Leaders of bandits pocketed<br />
govt money, shortchanged<br />
their foot soldiers<br />
—Journalist who visited them in the forest<br />
explains why y bandits t<br />
<strong>to</strong>ppled their leaders<br />
•Dauji, Abdullahi Kachalla, Bashuje, Dogo Nabajala, Rusku<br />
have taken over from Idris Miyaye, Sheman Daji<br />
•Says bandits now kidnap in presence of security men and<br />
nothing happens<br />
•Recommends negotiation since security men have failed<br />
•Reveals eals dangerous drug they y inject is called ‘Fant<br />
anta’<br />
a’<br />
By Bashir Bello<br />
Lawal Sa’idu, is a Katsina-based journalist. Sometime in 2019, he visited<br />
the bandits in their hideout in Dunbun Muazu and Dankolo in Sabuwa<br />
and Dandume Local Government Area of Katsina state and his<br />
observations and thoughts were published in Vanguard. He feared then that<br />
activities of the bandits could lead <strong>to</strong> famine and that one way <strong>to</strong> end banditry<br />
was <strong>to</strong> engage the bandits in farming after a seeming amnesty that would<br />
disarm them. He said he saw up <strong>to</strong> 1000 bandits wielding AK47 riffles in the<br />
forest, alerting that danger loomed. We reached out <strong>to</strong> Lawal Saidu again last<br />
week and he, again, spoke with us.<br />
Excerpts:<br />
ometime in 2019, you visited the bandits in<br />
SDunbun Muazu and Dankolo in Sabuwa<br />
and Dandume LGAs respectively where they<br />
<strong>to</strong>ld you some conditions <strong>to</strong> cease fire. Are<br />
you still in <strong>to</strong>uch with them?<br />
Even this week, I travelled <strong>to</strong> the area,<br />
especially Dunbun Muazu in Sabuwa LGA.<br />
The issue is that, even with these bandits, their<br />
leadership is never stable. Those I met the<br />
other time when I went there have now been<br />
dislodged by the younger ones. The other time<br />
when I went, the leadership I met were Idris<br />
Miyaye and Sheman Daji. The area is now<br />
controlled by bandits like Dauji, Abdullahi<br />
Kachalla, Bashuje, Dogo Nabajala and Rusku.<br />
I could also recall that as at that time you<br />
said the bandits were of different camps?<br />
There are about five camps now. The last<br />
time I went there, information I got from the<br />
area was that they have been divided in<strong>to</strong><br />
segments with each bandit leader controlling<br />
his area. If there is an attack, the people there<br />
can easily point <strong>to</strong> you that it was carried out<br />
by either Dauji, Kachalla or Bashuje because<br />
they have divided the area among themselves.<br />
But does any of these camps claim<br />
responsibility for attacks like the one on<br />
Kankara students?<br />
No, they don’t have <strong>to</strong> claim responsibility,<br />
everybody knows that they are the ones<br />
operating in that area. They don’t even have <strong>to</strong><br />
claim that they are responsible. When there is<br />
an attack you don’t need any soothsayer <strong>to</strong> tell<br />
that the attack was carried out by so and so<br />
group or person.<br />
What about talks around the conditions for<br />
cease fire? I remember when you visited the<br />
bandits the other time they gave some<br />
conditions?<br />
That time I met with people like Idris<br />
Miyaye. Certainly, they were hopeful that talks<br />
on cease fire would work. Now with the present<br />
crop of leaders, if you have <strong>to</strong> talk about cease<br />
fire, you have <strong>to</strong> start fresh negotiation with<br />
their new leaders. And how sure are you that<br />
the younger ones will not stand up against<br />
them? The past leadership <strong>must</strong> have collected<br />
money from government and pocketed it<br />
without taking care of the youths. That’s why<br />
the young ones are agitating and saying no <strong>to</strong><br />
any cease fire. The danger of agreement is that<br />
if you enter an agreement with them, after<br />
some time, the groups that feel isolated will<br />
turn against them and constitute their own<br />
group. So there is a problem.<br />
Having said there is a problem reaching an<br />
agreement with the bandits, what is the way<br />
out?<br />
The way out is negotiation. It is sad but better.<br />
It is bitter but from what I saw there is no better<br />
way that you can go about this without<br />
negotiation. What they are saying in Dunbun<br />
Muazu is that they carry out some attacks and<br />
kidnap in the presence of the security who<br />
appear helpless and do nothing about it. The<br />
bandits carry victims on mo<strong>to</strong>rcycle and pass<br />
in front of the security men, they will not talk<br />
<strong>to</strong> them, they would not interfere. To me, it<br />
seems they are not ready <strong>to</strong> work, so the only<br />
option for the government is negotiation, no<br />
matter how sad it is. It could be on temporary<br />
basis. If the security men were at work,<br />
certainly they would flush away these bandits.<br />
The <strong>to</strong>wns and villages (communities) close <strong>to</strong><br />
them are at the mercy of the bandits. I was with<br />
a vigilante leader from Dunbun Muazu when<br />
one of the bandits called him and said he needed<br />
two gallons of petroleum. He <strong>to</strong>ld him that he<br />
was not in <strong>to</strong>wn but that he would bring the<br />
fuel when he returned. I asked him where he<br />
would take it <strong>to</strong> and he <strong>to</strong>ld me he would take<br />
it <strong>to</strong> his people. He said if he didn’t comply the<br />
bandits could attack his<br />
community at night. These<br />
people are living like slaves<br />
<strong>to</strong> the bandits. They do<br />
whatever they like and<br />
request whatever they want.<br />
On Security people,<br />
certainly we all know what<br />
is happening, they have<br />
failed <strong>to</strong> do their job, they are<br />
not ready <strong>to</strong> do it. So <strong>to</strong> me,<br />
the only option left for<br />
government is <strong>to</strong> negotiate<br />
with them. And Masari<br />
(Governor of Katsina State)<br />
has said it repeatedly that he<br />
is not in a position <strong>to</strong> direct<br />
either the military or army <strong>to</strong><br />
attack the bandits because<br />
his hands are tied by the<br />
Constitution. It is the<br />
exclusive responsibility of<br />
the Federal Government. But<br />
since they are not ready <strong>to</strong><br />
do the job, what is left for the<br />
state government is <strong>to</strong> go in<strong>to</strong><br />
dialogue with the bandits no<br />
matter how temporary it is.<br />
But the government has<br />
made two attempts <strong>to</strong> dialogue with the<br />
bandits and they failed...<br />
It is good <strong>to</strong> ask questions. Why did the other<br />
peace deal collapse? These are questions<br />
government should ask. When I went there<br />
the last time, I had discussion with people<br />
around there (Dunbun Muazu) and they said<br />
that government should constitute a committee<br />
that would be meeting with them. That didn’t<br />
happen. Now, they are living at the mercy of<br />
the bandits. If you want <strong>to</strong> go <strong>to</strong> your farm <strong>to</strong><br />
harvest your crops, you have <strong>to</strong> hire the bandits<br />
The bandits carry<br />
victims on mo<strong>to</strong>rcycle<br />
and pass in front of the<br />
security men, they will not<br />
talk <strong>to</strong> them, they would<br />
not interfere. To me, it<br />
seems they are not ready<br />
<strong>to</strong> work, so the only option<br />
for the government is<br />
negotiation, no matter<br />
how sad it is<br />
• Lawal Sa'idu<br />
<strong>to</strong> go and guard the farm. So, if you encourage<br />
them <strong>to</strong> dialogue among themselves, it is<br />
better than this jamboree of carrying people<br />
like in political rally <strong>to</strong> go there for peace deal.<br />
Taking crowd there and showing the world<br />
will not work. Get a small committee <strong>to</strong> be<br />
meeting with them. That is the only way.<br />
Are you saying there is compromise on the<br />
part of the military because many people kept<br />
on wondering how the Kankara schoolboys<br />
were abducted?<br />
You cannot say compromise because they<br />
only work on order. You don’t know what is<br />
happening, maybe they were not ordered <strong>to</strong><br />
attack the bandits. You can not say compromise,<br />
only God knows who is protecting who, the<br />
more you see the less you understand.<br />
Can the bandits be trusted?<br />
Even if they cannot be trusted, tell me what<br />
other option you have on ground since those<br />
mandated with the task of<br />
going after them do not do<br />
so. Dialogue is the only<br />
option. If there is no<br />
dialogue, they will continue<br />
<strong>to</strong> kill people and the security<br />
will look the other way. Since<br />
the governor cannot order the<br />
military or police <strong>to</strong> attack the<br />
bandits what do you do? If<br />
you look at Katsina, places<br />
like Funtua are now densely<br />
populated because people<br />
deserted their communities<br />
for fear of attacks by the<br />
bandits. People from<br />
Dandume, Sabuwa, Faskari,<br />
have migrated <strong>to</strong> Funtua area<br />
of the state. This is another<br />
problem and challenge. So,<br />
since the government is not<br />
ready <strong>to</strong> tell the security <strong>to</strong> go<br />
after these people, I believe<br />
there is no option other than<br />
dialogue for now no matter<br />
how costly it is.<br />
I ask if the bandits can be<br />
trusted because kidnapping<br />
appears lucrative. Can they<br />
<strong>s<strong>to</strong>p</strong> and can there be an end <strong>to</strong> banditry?<br />
The bandits are human beings, they also<br />
have their needs and demands. If you go <strong>to</strong><br />
their area, they are now locked up in their<br />
encampment, they cannot go in<strong>to</strong> the <strong>to</strong>wn <strong>to</strong><br />
transact businesses and generate money. They<br />
don’t have any option of getting money other<br />
than kidnapping. So, it is left for the<br />
government <strong>to</strong> find a window and that is why<br />
I said dialogue is the best. The other time when<br />
we went there, we had dialogue with the<br />
vigilantes in the area and the Fulanis and even<br />
their leaders were coming <strong>to</strong> the neighbouring<br />
markets <strong>to</strong> transact business and go back. If<br />
you don’t allow them <strong>to</strong> come <strong>to</strong> the <strong>to</strong>wn <strong>to</strong><br />
carry out legitimate business <strong>to</strong> earn money,<br />
they would rebel against the system and resort<br />
<strong>to</strong> attacking travellers and collecting forced<br />
levies, kidnapping people and getting <strong>ransom</strong>.<br />
If I get you right, the message is for<br />
government <strong>to</strong> dialogue with the bandits?<br />
Those whose responsibility it is <strong>to</strong> fight these<br />
bandits are not ready so what do you think<br />
should be done? Unless the state government<br />
wants the bandits <strong>to</strong> continue killing. Just this<br />
morning I got an information from Damari<br />
area that just a little past 12 this morning they<br />
kidnapped nine people in Albasu Limami. This<br />
was a <strong>to</strong>wn that was earlier attacked by the<br />
same bandits on Christmas day where they<br />
kidnapped eight people (two women and six<br />
others). They managed <strong>to</strong> escape when the<br />
bandits were deep asleep. They returned <strong>to</strong><br />
the same <strong>to</strong>wn and kidnapped nine persons<br />
including an SS2 student, his father and others.<br />
If a thief would come <strong>to</strong> a place and steal and<br />
return <strong>to</strong> same area again and again it shows<br />
that the security has collapsed.<br />
With the abduction of Kankara schoolboys<br />
which was the first on any school in the state,<br />
do you think they are getting support from<br />
Boko Haram?<br />
It is not that they getting support from the<br />
Boko Haram. The bandits are learning from<br />
the Boko Haram. Criminals learn from each<br />
other. If you could recall when people were<br />
beheaded in Zabarmari in Borno State, three<br />
days after, six people were also beheaded by<br />
bandits around Sabuwa area. Crime is<br />
universal, they are learning from each other<br />
because the bandits <strong>to</strong>o listen <strong>to</strong> radio, they<br />
have access <strong>to</strong> social media and if it is about<br />
drugs, they also take drugs. There is a<br />
dangerous drug they take now called “Fanta”,<br />
it is sold for N50 in the open market but sold<br />
<strong>to</strong> the bandits for N500. It is an injection,<br />
somebody can take about 10 in a day. This<br />
crime you are seeing happening in <strong>Nigeria</strong>, if<br />
care is not taken it can consume everybody. So<br />
we have <strong>to</strong> move fast, time is not on our side.<br />
The bandits are getting sophisticated. A leader<br />
of vigilante group in Dunbun Muazu was<br />
telling me that he saw one of the bandits<br />
holding a gun he suspected was one of those<br />
recently acquired by our military. So the<br />
government should review its thinking that<br />
all the arms bandits use were smuggled from<br />
neighbouring countries. They should seriously<br />
take an inven<strong>to</strong>ry of their armoury because<br />
some of the guns are from the security<br />
personnel, only God knows how they managed<br />
<strong>to</strong> get them.<br />
Can we trace the origin of the bandits <strong>to</strong><br />
Boko Haram?<br />
No. The bandits don’t even pray. They take<br />
drugs, how can you attribute any ideology <strong>to</strong><br />
them? There’s no link. The bandits carry out<br />
attacks in presence of security personnel. So,<br />
<strong>to</strong> me, it’s either the government facilitates the<br />
dialogue or they should allow the people <strong>to</strong><br />
confront the bandits.