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with Napalm? Why did you decide to<br />

leave them?<br />

TT: Yes, I respected and liked Max a lot back<br />

then. I was involved with Napalm as much as<br />

it gets over that distance (Vienna – Eisenerz),<br />

you surely remember those times. But Max<br />

changed, and although I had a quite unsteady<br />

and unreliable time and haven't been<br />

the best business partner, he changed in a<br />

way that's not acceptable in my opinion, on a<br />

personal as well as artistic (a label deals with<br />

art/music) level. It's a pity, those times back<br />

then were a pleasure – recently I have seen<br />

the With Us Or Against Us album at someone's<br />

flat and read the statements and looked<br />

at the booklet, a nostalgic moment, but<br />

there's no looking back.<br />

Max operates on another level<br />

now, he does music business<br />

and has nothing to do with<br />

Black <strong>Metal</strong> or art, I mean Napalm<br />

and EAL/NED are two<br />

<strong>com</strong>pletely different worlds,<br />

even the reason why each label<br />

releases albums.<br />

Finally we found a way to clear<br />

up our problems to a degree<br />

where both parties can live with<br />

it and continue to work with<br />

Napalm for our back catalogue.<br />

My main concern is that we get<br />

high quality vinyl releases of<br />

our old albums.<br />

PK: There’s no relationship<br />

anymore, they’ve their "labelphilosophy”,<br />

we’ve ours, our<br />

ways separated, there’s no more to say about<br />

it, nor are we allowed at the moment…<br />

Ch: Thomas, you left Abigor in the end of<br />

1999. In the meantime Peter has done<br />

two more Abigor releases and worked on<br />

several projects like Hellbound and St.<br />

Lucifer. What have you done music wise<br />

during these years?<br />

TT: 2 more? In Memory was put together<br />

when I still did Abigor (although I was gone<br />

by the time it was released when I it remember<br />

right) and the 7” includes a track from<br />

Channelling on the B side, so I thought Satanized<br />

is the main release that PK did with<br />

other people.<br />

I released nothing, I concentrated on audio<br />

engineering, did some recordings but mainly<br />

to learn all the new technology and equipment.<br />

I didn't have the plan to release anything,<br />

or even create something where I<br />

could fully identify with it that would stand<br />

for my heart and soul in public. I did some<br />

29<br />

electronic tracks, the best way to learn software<br />

and mixdown, because 50+ audio-<br />

&MIDI-tracks of all kinds of synthetic and<br />

acoustic sounds teach you to do a proper<br />

mixdown and use your hardware right.<br />

Ch: TT, you have be<strong>com</strong>e a real expert in<br />

audio engineering and also built up your<br />

own studio. Can you tell us more about<br />

it? What gear do you use? What kind of<br />

bands / music have you produced there<br />

so far?<br />

TT: Studer 963 console, Neumann M149/AKG<br />

C414/EV RE20 as the most often used mics,<br />

mainly outboard gear to "create the sound”<br />

(Focusrite Red 3 <strong>com</strong>pressor, Universal Audio<br />

6176 channel strip, Culture Vulture valve<br />

processor, TLA EQ 2, several<br />

all-analogue effects like<br />

tapedelay, phaser, chorus,<br />

filter etc) and about 200qm for<br />

a relaxed working atmosphere<br />

with one side of the rooms<br />

having many windows on the<br />

first floor of an old factory. A<br />

dark cellar would sound appropriate<br />

for Black <strong>Metal</strong> but really,<br />

for full days of concentrated<br />

engineering I prefer daylight<br />

and enough space. Asmodeus<br />

& Vobiscum recorded and/or<br />

mixed there, I did several<br />

"mastering” kind of works (although<br />

I usually don't offer<br />

mastering as I work with a<br />

professional hi-end mastering<br />

studio and a recording/<br />

mixdown studio can never<br />

offer what a 100% mastering<br />

studio with specialized mastering engineers<br />

can offer), and of course all kinds of "jobs”<br />

like voices for adds, recording and mixdown<br />

for all kinds of music, not <strong>Metal</strong>.<br />

I didn't see it in connection with my artistic<br />

work, the studio is open even for the most<br />

stupid Schlagermusik, I make no difference. I<br />

try to make the best out of the job, if that's<br />

HipHop (which artistically I can't stand, a<br />

style I utterly scorn) or <strong>Metal</strong> doesn't matter<br />

to me – I just hear frequencies and see settings<br />

on my gear, and improving the source<br />

with my engineering work is my job, and if I<br />

did (make something sound good) I succeeded,<br />

I don't have to like the music at all.<br />

Ch: Now after recording "Fractal Procession”<br />

in your own studio, could you ever<br />

imagine to record in the infamous Hoernix<br />

Studio again? I mean you’ve recorded<br />

plenty of albums there and also<br />

brought lots of metal bands to this place.<br />

Still Hoernix has never been a metal studio<br />

at all…

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