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¯ 0116 Of 29-30/05/94. 

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Gatimbiro Uwera Olga. 

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FACE A. 

RESUME DE LA CASSETTE N°0116. 

* Kantano accuse le FPR de bombarder les réfugiés qui étaient à la paroisse Sainte 

Famille. 

* Il parle de l’attaque des Inyenzis au Collège Saint André. 

* Il accuse les Inyenzis de saboter les négociations. 

* Kantano nous parle de la situation de la guerre dans les différents quartiers de la 

ville de KigaU. 

* Communiqués.

Orateur- Kantano. ~~ 0 ] 6 5 3 2 8 

0naudible) urakoze Ananiya abumva RTLM mwese namwe murakoze kuba muteze amatwi e... 

Mugenzi wanjye Ananiya ugerageje kubumvisha iyi ntambara turwana uko imeze, uko ikoze... Ku 

buryo rero nta rnuntu wari ukwiye ku komeza kubeshywa (inaudible) no muri MINUAR itcka bur/ 

gihe abanyamakuru koko ba Radiyo France barabivuga umunya.., umuntu wo muri MINUAR ngo 

utashatse kuvuga izma yatubw/ye yuko ngo hazafatwa ail ejo ari cio bundi. Ibyo ngîbyo nara... 

narabivuze mbisubiramo kandi nta wundi baba bavuga ni DALLAIRE ma wundi niwe 

batelefonana kenshi. Ubu noneho yarabimenye ar/kosora gato, ntagire icyo avuga. Ariko rero ni 

wc babaza raporo buri gitondo noncho akavuga ati e... n’cio n’ejobundi. Gusa, njyc sinavuga 

yuko yenda muri plan ye niko baba babimuhaye cyangwa se niko aba abyifuza ariko ijambo avuze 

i... narivuga mu gîfaransa ko ad psychologique ni ukuvuga yuko abateye inkunga Inkotanyi kuko 

abantu bazifasha abazohereza amafaranga n’iki bavuga bati e! Ubwo umuntu wo muri MINUAR 

yabivuze ubwo koko nibyo arabibonera hafi... Noneho ieyo gihe abazitera inkunga bagakomeza 

gutyo gukomeza kubeshywa bavuga yuko Inkotanyi zishobora gufata Kigali. Ni ibyo ngibyo rero 

ubundi bail bakwiye kubabuza abasirikare ntibagomba kuvuga ibintu. Ubundi uwagombaga kujya 

avuga ni Roger BOH BOH none Inkotanyi zaramwirukanye zamujyanye i Naïrobi ariko rero niwe 

wagombye ubundi niwe ufite uburenganzira bwo kuvuga. Ubundi abasirikare bagomba kuvuga 

eyane eyane iyo batangaza mu bintu bya gisirikare nka situation uko imeze. Ubwo rero wa mugani 

bari bakwiye kubandikira (inaudible) ahari menya yarananiranwe n’umuntu witwa DALLAIRE. 

Nta n’ubwo tururnva ieyo yabivuzeho, ntabwo turumva yenda niba yanihanije Canada eyangwa 

se... Rwose DALLAIRE nawe mu gihe dufite icyitso gikomeye nka DALLAIRE ma... Ubundi 

turarwana adko ieyitso nka kiriya kimeze nabi. Cyakora noneho, umenya muri iyi minsi asigaye 

agerageza kubwiza Inkotanyi ukuri akazibwira ati: "mwebwe dore Guvednoma y’u Rwanda 

yampaye iki kibuga ey’i Kanombe mwa Nkotanyi mw¢ ko mubona nta ngabo z’u Rwanda zihari 

mwe murahakora iki ?" Ubwo rero Inkotanyi nyine zabuze icyo zimusubiza adko kubera ko ad 

amashuti apfa kuzibika aho ngaho mu bigo by’i Kanombe nuko zigakomeza zikirirwa zirata ngo 

zafashe ku kibuga. Cyakora igishimishije nuko ejo hashoboye kuza indege ya ONU izanye ibiryo 

byo gutabara abantu ubwo ndizera ko ari izindi ndege zizajya ziza ariko bakarebamo yuko ma 

bintu bya MUSEVEN/bijemo. Ubwo rero abatwumva mwese mukomeze mugire umunsi mwiza 

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nta bwoba ............... 

turwanire igihugu. Naho ubundi kwibwira ngo Inkotanyi nizimara kugifata 

tuzagaruka dusaba imbabazi, 

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ducengera ngo tubeshya ngo twari ibyitso ngo twari muri PL ngo Muge... nako Lando... Ibyo 

ngibyo Inkotanyi zacyifatiye uko wibwira kose, uko uvuga ngo narize nagize me, ngo ndi 

umunyemari, nta Nkotanyi ntiyaba ikigushaka hano, ahubwo yakwemera hose ikahororera inka. 

Hanyuma noneho Abatutsi bakaba mu kantu bashoboye ahandi hose hakaba inka n’abagaragu 

cyane cyane bagomba kuba ail nk’abagabo bagira inkone hum, ibigabo by’inkone nyine bijya 

byoza Abatutsikazi nk’uko kera byabagaho hanyuma noneho ubundi bakaragira inka bose ariko 

aho hosc nyine nkubwije ukuri yuko Inkotanyi muzihaye iki gihugu nyine mawagarukamo ......... 

baharagira inka zabo. Ubwo rero nimuze mrwane (inaudible) ntakwirirwa umuntu araguza 

eyangwa.., nari ngiye kuvuga ngo nta no lc~rirwa umuntu asenga Imana. Twumve KTLM Radiyo 

ibabwiza ukuri kandi ivugira hano i Kigali. RTLM radiyo yanyu ivugira hano i Kigali ku mirongo 

y’ijana na gatandatu na mirongo ieyenda na kane. Abatwumva mwese aho muri hose aho 

mutwumvira hose i Ngara muri Tanzaniya, abatwumvira mu Burundi, abatwumvira muri Uganda, 

abatwumvira muri Zaïre abatwumvira i Gitarama, abatwumvira i Butare, abatwumvira ku 

Gikongoro, i Cyangugu, ku Kibuye, ku Gisenyi, mu Ruhengeri, abatwumvira i Kibungo 

n’abatwumvira hano muri Kigali-Ngali no muri Kigali y’umujyi mwese mwese mwese 

turabaramukije. Ni HABIMANA Kantano muri kumwe muri iki gitondo. Ari kumwe na 

NTEZIMANA Jean ariwe ubagezaho e... umuziki n’ibindi byose mbese mukeneye kugira ngo uyu 

munsi wo kw’itariki, uyu munsi wo kuwa mbere itariki mirongo itatu z’ukwezi kwa gatanu 

gihumbi kimwe magana eyenda mirongo ieyenda na kane kugira ngo mwiriranwe akanyamuneza. 

Inkuru rero ya mbere y’uyu munsi ni iyihe? Hano muri Kigali biraturagurika, biraturagurika, 

biraturagurika eyane. Abanyabwoba ndetse ubu ngubu menya bihishe mu buriri, bihishe mu buriri .... 

ariko rero hinga mbabwirko e ntabwo ari bibi ni inkuru nziza, ni inkuru nziza izo ni ingabo zacu 

nyine mu gitondo zazindutse mu museso zikocagura Inkotanyi ku buryo rero nyine ubu ngubu 

iby’Inkotanyi birimo bimera nabi eyane. Ku buryo zirimo ziranyagirwa n’umuriro, zirimo 

ziranyagirwa n’amasasu mbese ibyo bintu bituragurika rero nk’uko maze kuzenguruka hirya no 

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hino mu mujyi wa Kigali, nicyo cyatumye nkererwa, ntibibatere ubwoba na gato, ntibibatere 

ubwoba na gato. Ndabamenyesha yuko uyu.., iri joro Inkotanyi zagerageje gucengera, zagerageje 

gucengera zishaka kuza gufata ngo collège Saint André, collège Saint André i Nyamirambo 

birazinanîra. Ubu rero badine barazirukankana hose mu bitoki zirukanse za... zashize. Hanyuma 

na none Inkotanyi zagerageje k~njira mu Muhima ha.ri 

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Udukotanyi tugomba kuba twashoboye gueengera ahantu haruguru ariko rero na none ubu barimo 

barirukanka baraduhiga hirya no hino. Hanyuma za Gisozi hehe hose mbese Inkotanyi ubu zirî mu 

byago bikomeye. Ibyo rero bitufika ntibibatere ubwoba, ni ingabo z’u Rwanda zirimo zicocagura 

Inkotanyi. Kandi binmavikana, birumvikana mujye mumenya mumaze kumenyera intambara, 

mujye mumenya ieyo bavuga bati aba bantu nibo bafite initiative. Ibyo rero biturika, iyo nta kintu 

mubona kigaruka mu mujyi kikahisenyura eyangwa kikahaturikira bimmvikana yuko ibiba biturîka 

ari iby’ingabo z’u Rwanda. Ubwo rero abantu bakavuga ngo ye baba we ngo umva icyo kintu 

kuko harimo uru.., uruntu runini cyane bita ngo quadruple.., umntu rueira amasasu igihumbi mu 

mun0ta. Ubwo rero iyi mwumva ru... ruvuma lnyenzi mvuga ngo pupupupu muragatsindwa, ni 

ikibunda cyaeu eya kabutindi kiba kizivumerezaho amasasu menshi cyane. Ieyo kibunda ndabizi 

kivuga nabi, hari abantu gitera ubwoba ariko rero nta kundi byagenda iyo umuntu yatewe 

yitabaza uburyo buhambaye, icyo kibunda rero bita quadruple muzakibona ni ikibunda ey’iminwa 

enye kuvubura amasasu igihumbi mu munota ubwo rero murumva iyo kivumye Inkotanyi ngo 

pupupupu ntimukagire ngo ni Inkotanyi. Ni ingabo z’u Kwanda ziba zivumye izo Nyenzi, izo 

mburagasani zizirtmdamo amasasu kugira ngo zishire, zipfe, hanyuma noneho mbese ibyazo 

birangire. Ubwo rero iyo nkuru hari abantu bo ku Muhima bagize ubwoba ngo ye baba we, ngo 

bite. Mukornere rero ku Muhima ntaeyabaye murabona ko ni ku manywa ahubwo mufashe ingabo 

z’u Rwanda muzereke ahantu Inyenzi yaba yihishe niyo baba ari muri w.c muyifate hanyuma 

noneho muyihe uruyikwiye. Hanyuma, hari umndi tugenda dushaka kunyegera muri Mpazi. Aho 

rero mugende murunguruka muri Mpazi nabwo murebemo ko haba hari akagiyemo kishwe 

n’amazi nako mugahondagure. Hanyuma ubundi i Nyamirambo ha none hari akabunda karimo 

katurikira hejuru ako kabunda rero katuragurika mujye mumenya amayeri y’hyenzi ni ugutera 

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ubwoba ako kabunda kagomba kuba kihishe ahantu hafi yo kw’i Rebero ntabwo rero kad hafi. 

Ahubwo iyo bakarashe gatufikira hano kagatufikira hirya, kagatufikira hirya ngo md turi turi 

ukagira ngo Inkotanyi ziri aho hafi yawe. Ni ukubeshya rero ako kabunda kad kure nyuma 

amasasu yako aranyura mu kirere mbese ni ukugira ngo aturike gusa atere ubwoba abantu bakeke 

yuko Inkotanyi zihari. Afiko muhumure nta Nkotanyi zihari kandi murabibona yuko ingabo z’u 

Rwanda ail nyinshi mu kanya rero ha none nyuze ku ... ku basore ibihumbi n’ibihumbi barimo 

bitoza ibintu by’imirwano. Abo ngabo nabo e... ni abashaka 

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kwinjira mu gisidkare, adko na none mpuye n’aba.., mpuye n’amamodoka menshi eyane 

y’abasirîkare b’u Rwanda nabo bagenda nyine bajya aho hose e... ibyo ngibyo birimo biturikira. 

Ubwo rero ako kabunda katurikira i Nyimirambo mwiyicarire gusa ahantu, yego si ngombwa ku... 

kugenda umuntu ad hanze gutyo ariko mwiyicarire ahantu ku mabaraza mukihorere katuragudke 

murabona ko ntawe gafata nta ki, ni kwa kundi kw’iterabwoba nyine ry’Inyenzi-Nkotanyi 

murabibona. Ako kabunda niko kameze umenya ngo bakita Milu... Katuragurikira mu birere 

ukumva turituri uri hepfo akumva karatudtse, uri mu Nyakabanda akumva karatursitse, uri ruguru 

akumva karatudts¢ ariko rero kaba kari kure. Ni iby’iterabwoba by’Inyenzi murabibona yuko 

Inyenzi mbese ikintu zikoresha ni itera bwoba gusa. Hanyuma noneho nk’uko nabivuze mu 

Muhima, utwo Tunyenzi twaraye tugerageje kuha.., kuhacengera nijoro ibyo ad byo byose 

muduhumbahumbe. Hanyuma impunzi na none murimo mubona hano muri uyu mujyi abad hariya 

ku isoko aho mvuye mwabibonye e... izo mpunzi rero ni izivuye murî Sainte Famille, ni izivuye 

muri Sainte Famille kubera ko Inyenzi-Nkotanyi mu bugome bwazo zirimo ziratera amasasu aho 

abantu bail barahungiye. Nyamara aho hantu niho hari harahungiye Abatutsi benshi b’abakene, 

niho hari harahungiye abantu bo ku Kaeyiru. none Inyenzi zirimo zirahatera ibisasu byinshi eyane 

kubera nyine ko zakozwe n’isoni kubera kwotswa igitutu n’ingabo z’u P,,wanda. Noneho nyine 

ba... ba... aho kugira ngo barase ku ngabo z’u Rwanda ahubwo bagahimbira ku... ku mpunzi zari 

zimerewe nabi. Nibo rero mubona abo bantu bafite utu.., udufuka n’uturago n’abo ngabo mubona 

bad hafi mu Gakinjiro. Abo mubona birundanyije mu Gakinjiro hafi y’aba.., ya kiliziya yaba 

Pentecôte, ubwo rero na none ntihagire ababona abo bantu bavuye kuri Saint André nako kuri 

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Saint M..., Sainte F~fi]]e h~iya b~Lri baralmngiye ha none ngo bimere r~ka babandi babonye 

ab~tu ba~ye i K~ombe bagallita b~ambira ibyabo. Abo b~tu bavuye l~ri Sainte F~.ille 

l~bem ko ~ot~~ zînmo zibareshy~o ibisasu byinsbi cy~e noneho b~kaba b~~nze birya, 

bakaba bazibishije. Ubwo rero ntihagire abababona ngo bavuge ngo byacitse ngo byabindi 

byaturagudkaga ngo umenya koko ngo ad ibiki... Mumenye gusa yuko ibituragudka ni 

iby’ingabo z’u Rwanda kandi byose biragenda bigwa ku Nkotanyi, ari nako zipfa. Zirapfa nyine 

ad nyinshi cyane ku buryo umuntu yibaza yuko ingabo z’u Rwanda ni zibikora imînsi ibiri, itatu 

ndetse Inkotanyi zizaba zishize e... dore ko ziroha ni nk’intozi ntawamenya ukuntu zimeze, ni 

abasazi. 

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Cyakora ngo MUSEVENI yarababwiye ati ntihazagire ugaruka koko inkuru igiye kuba impamo 

ma... ntazizongera kugaruka kuko mu by’ukuri zirimo zirashira, zirimo zirashira ku buryo buteye, 

bwagombye.., bon burashimishije kufi twe... Ariko rero bwagombye gutera gahinda KAGAME 

alias Kagome. Ubwo rero na none inkuru ivugwa.., inkuru ivugwa n’amaradiyo yo hanze ni 

inkuru ivuga ngo Guv¢rinoma ngo ha none ngo yahurtze, ngo ibintu byaeitse. Ibyo rero ni ukugira 

ngo nyine abo banyamaharu b’Abafaransa batere agahe.., batere.., batere ingabo mu bitugu 

Inkotanyi. Iyo babivuze rero ku maradio yabo nyin¢, ubwo amaradiyo, ubwo abanyamahanga 

bafasha Inkotanyi baravuga bati e... za Nkotanyi uzi ko ad ibikenya! Ziratera intambwe ziragenda 

hirya no hino, igihugu zakiyogoje. Ariko kenshi ni ibintu gusa byo ku... byo kubeshya ngo 

Guverinoma yahunze. Guverinoma se yahunga ihunga iki? Ko n’i Gitarama bitari uguhunga ko 

kwarî ukwigirayo... Ariko na none ibonye ahandi yakwigirayo, yakwigirayo. Hanyuma noneho 

Inkotanyi zibeshya ngo zigiye.., zishaka amay¢ri yose yo kuyogoza igihugu, zikabeshya ngo 

zirimo zirahiga Guv¢rinoma... Guverinoma wahiga abantu cumi n’umunani ukarinda kwiea abandi 

ibihumbi n’~ihumbi ngo urimo urahiga abantu eumi n’umunani. Wabahiga se wamenya bail hehe. 

Ubwo rero ukabona yuko nyine ibyo ni ibintu by’ibigarnbo bishaka guha moral ngo Inkotanyi 

abantu bumve ko ad igitangaza ngo zirukana abantu eyane nibo ba...ba.., ayo maradiyo niyo 

wumva avuga ngo.., ngo umujyi wa Kig’ali wafashwe kandi Inkotanyi zigisiragira mu... muri za... 

aho ziri. Ukayobcn’wa aho zageze bikakuyobera. Hanyuma hariya rero na none ku gipande eyo ku 

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Koe~bo ubwo ingabo z’u Rw~da n~o.,, n~o zinmo z~a.oo zirab~Lza I~ot~~ k~~b~-a 

ibishyimbo hadya muri Magerwa e... dore ko Inkotanyi nyine zashonje zirimo zirashaka kumanuka 

kwiba ibishyimbo zimanukiye hadya ku Karambo. Ku buryo rero baximo barazibuza kwiba. 

Hanyuma, urabona abantu baje kwigira ingegera mu gihugu ma... n’uko nyine ni ukubamerera 

nabi bakabaha ibihano bibakwiriye. Ubwo rero icyo nababwiraga mbese ikintu cya ngombwa nuko 

koko harî ibintu biturika mu mujyi, had ibintu biturika mu mujyi ariko ntabwo ail mu mujyi. Hari 

abantu batumva neza imbunda. Iyo mwumvise uru.., uru.., urusasu runini cyan~ rushyigutse mu 

mujyi tuba rugiye guhonda inyenzi ntabwo ail Inyenzi ziba zirwohereje mu mujyi. Ubwo rero tuba 

ad urwacu ntimukagire ubwoba ngo yooo, ngo biraturikira hafi (tire). Biba bimrikirahano hafi 

nyine mu mujyi kubera ko biba bijya, bigiye kureba Inyenzi iyo ziri bikazig~ra ariya Kacyiru aho 

twihishe, hariya hose aho barimo bacukura ibijumba 

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baturira imyumbati dote ko bigize ingegera. Ubwo rero ntimugire ubwoba rwose mukomere abari 

hirya ya Kigali mwumva ibintu biturika, ni ibyacu turimo turahonda honda Inyenzi. Hanyuma 

noneho kugira ngo imishyikirano iza kuba uyu munsi ize kubona nyine naho ibera umuntu 

ahumeka neza, Inyenzi umuntu atakizumva hall. Nk’uko rero uko bimeze muri iki gitondo cyo ku 

wa mbere tarîki mirongo itatu z’ukwa gatanu mirongo icyenda na kane. Abumva RTLM mwese 

mukomere mwese mwese mukomere ku muheto mukomere murwanire igihugu. Nta kuntu abantu 

b’ingegera bava za Uganda ha he bitwaj¢ ibice bya Kalachnikov by’ibibunda byashaje ngo 

batwirukane mu gihugu cyacu, ibyo bintu byaba ad isoni, nta n’ahantu twazagera tujya ngo 

baduhe amazi ya liba. Hanyuma abasaba rero imbunda abasaba imbunda nazo e..., hari abamaze 

kumenyesha yuko zimaze kuboneka, zimaze kuboneka. Hanyuma rero abasore mukomeze 

imyitozo ejo cyangwa ejo bundi ntabwo bizarenza mutabonye imbunda, hanyuma noneho tujye 

kuvumbura Inyenzi ahantu zihishe hose mu Gasyata tuhabohoze tukureyo Utunyenzi duharî 

tw’utubwa. Ejo narambonye mud kiliziya sinzi ibintu twakoraga ariko Inyenzi rwose ni abiyahuzi. 

Icyo kîliziya sinzi niba barasengaga ariko se wasenga gute uri umugome bari mu kili~ya kiriya cyo 

hakurya cy’aba.., cy’Abapentekoti hariya mu Gasyata bail mu madirishya barunguruka wagira ngo 

igihugu.., bararungumka se iki7 Bariya bantu rwose ni abasazi ntabwo mbona ukuntu bameze 

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ubwo rero ibikoresh0 ni bimara kuboneka bitarenze ejo cyangwa ejo bundi tuzajya gukubita zifiya 

Nyenzi tuzirukankane mpaka mpaka tuzigejeje mufi.., kufi Kusine byibuze hanyuma noneho 

ubundi dukomeze umujyi wacu. Nk’uko rero uko ibintu bimeze mukomere abumva RTLM 

mwumve uyu muzild. Bonjour Gahigi. (Musique) 

... yos¢ ~ ~ho ~~X yazisi~~ ~i~anka i Kagugu, e~ukanka m~ bisa.., mu bisig~~~ bYa 

CND zirimo zirukanka mu bisigazwa bya.., bya.., bya hôtel hirya iriya nako hariya kw i Keoero 

ubwo se urumva zafigejeje heherzigejeje kuki? Kwibwira ko zizisukuma, ariko ntawuzibujije... 

Nîzisukume "zize zishire kuko nabibonye neza nabonye abasore bimkaga muri iki gitondo ndareba 

ndareba abasore benshi cyane koko bavuduka bati nimureke mjye guhonda izo nkenya ndavuga 

mi cyakora koko Inkotanyi amaherezo zizashira. Zavuga ngo zizajya i Gitarama ngo zîmkanke, 

zigere i Cyangugu zigere l’le. Abanm bose, Abanyarwanda bose, mirongo icyenda ku ijana 

bahagumkiye rimwe, bareba ikintu bita Inkotanyi ikinm bita Inkotanyi gusa bazagihiga mu 

Rwanda hose ku buryo kizacika ahubwo kikanatekereza no kutazagamka i Rwanda. Nibakomeza 

kwiyahura kuriya bazashira 

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nk’ubu koko abo basore bose ni bamara kubona imbunda mu ma komine yose abantu bose niko 

bashaka imbunda, kandi abo bantu bose n’Abahum gusa. Koko ubwo Abatutsi icumi ku ijana 

bazabona urubyiruko n’ubwo bazana n’impunfi na ki bazabona umbyiruko koko rungana 

n’urubyiruko rw’abantu mirongo cyenda ku ijana. Ndakeka yuko ni uk~yahura nizere ko 

imishyikirano y’uyu munsi ituma imirwano ihagarara, hanyuma noneho Inkotanyi zigatekemza, 

zikareba ibyo zigezeho zikireba zikibura kuko no kwirukanka ngo zigeze za Nyamata, zigeze za 

Kuhango, zigez¢ gute nabyo nta kwiyahura kurenze uko. Ese nk’ubu Inkotanyi ko tubîzi neza, 

tumaze kumenya neza ko inyuma ntazahasigaye ko zaje zirukanka zimwe zije gufata Kigali izindi 

zimkanka zijya mu Bugesera ngo zimkanke zijya i Gitarama ubu koko uwanyaruka agafunga 

umuhanda wa Kwamagana mu byo bita contre offensive kandi ko ail byo bigiye kuba. Inkotanyi 

zagiye muri Sake zaza.., uwagenda agafungira i Zaza, Inkotanyi zagiye muri Sake zazavanwayo 

n’iki. Izagiye se muri Mugesera? Iziri mu Bugesera se zo zanyura he za... zakwiruka zigana hehe 

he! Kereka kwimkanka zigana i Burundi. Nioyo gisigaye rero, kugenda wiyahura hirya no hino 

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mu bantu batagushaka, batagukunda ni ulc~gerezaho. Ni kimwe no kuza mu mujy/, mu mujyi nta 

byitso bîsigayemo, hasigaye abantu binywera urumogi gusa bategereje Inkotanyi, hasigaye 

abas/r/kare barakaye bavuga bati uyu mujy/w’u Rwanda capita/e y’ig/hugu cyacu nt/shobora 

gufatwa. Ieyo gihe abasirik.., a... abaturage nta eyizere bakongera kugirira ingabo tugomba 

kuwupfiramo ubwo rero n/ba bashaka kuwupfiramo, Inkotanyi n/ba z/shaka gush/riramo kuko 

nizize... Kuko iyo umuntu ashaka kwiyahura ukamubuza, ukarnubuza, ukamubuza nta kuntu 

abanyamahanga batabwiye Inkotaàyi bati nyabuneka nimugirane imishyikirano nta bibazo byigeze 

birangizwa n’intambara. N’intambara y’isi yarangijwe n’imishyikirano, n’intembara ya... yo muri 

Vïêtnam yarangijwe n’imishyikirano, izo muri Angola,/zo muri Mozambique iza hehe hose kandi 

n’iyi ngiyi Inkotanyi zari zashoje muri mirongo icyenda yad yarangijwe 

n’imishyikiranol None .. 

Inkotanyi zizayirangiza n’întambara.., intarnbara se koko z/zayishoboza iki, abana b’Abahutu bose 

bahagurukîye rimwe bavuga bati "mwene Gatutsi ntabwo tumushaka mu gihugu c -- » 

yit(3U 

yabig¢nza ate koko. Ubwo rero ni twizere yuko bumva inama babagira n’abanyamahanga babagira 

ubwo mvuze inama nibuka iriya Arap Moi yatumije Arap Moi wo muri Kenya, iriya nama rero 

atumizamo MOBUTU, atumizamo e... MW]NYI nako yego atumizamo MWINY/, atumizamo 

kiriya cyihebe MUSEVENI. Mu by’ukuri nubwo haba Inkotanyi 

27.1 

nyînshi Nairobi ariko hari ikibazo cyahindutse abantu batamenye. Inkotanyi kandi ntabwo zigeze 

zibimenya ko ibyo binm byahindutse. Nuko Inkotanyi zageze i Nairobi, zikîgira akarahakajyahe 

mu ma hôteli. Ariko nk’uko mugenzi wanjye Gahigi Gaspard yabibabwiye, ubu noneho mu ma 

hoteli y’i Nairobi ntihakirimo Abatutsi gusa n’Inkotanyi hadmo n’Abahutu bahunze. Abo Bahutu 

rero nabo baravuga iby’Abahutu, bagacengeza iby’Abahutu ku buryo rem Inkotanyi nta.., ntabwo 

zikivuga zonyine. Na Roger BOH BOH ad i Nairobi. Kandi izo Nkotanyi nta gihe atazibwiye, 

yakurikiranye imishyildrano yose yabaye ~ana inama zose perezida wa repubulika 

yayoboraga zikageza mu gitondo zikageza he ariko amara kureba neza ko Inkotanyi zirimo 

zishyiramo amananiza. Mwinyi rero we yarumiwe ni agahoma munwa yarihebye. Kubona 

amafaranga Tanzaniya yatanze Arusha ihe’nda henda biriya byihebe by’Abatutsi akagerageza 

Imbahendahenda. Abakozi babo, ndibuka abitwa ba Tambwe bande yande aba secrétaire iki, 

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lisansi y’indege buri kanya ngo baie kureba, baie guhendahenda Inkotanyi. Ariko ejo bundi 

MWINYI yabatumiza ngo aze bavugane Arusha ntibamurebe n’îrihumye, baramusuzugura, 

bamugira imbwa. Ndakeka yuko ibyo bintu byaramwishe, yarapfuye. Reka rero MOBUTU SESE 

SEKO we rwose uriya mugabo ntako atagize agira ngo Abanyarwanda bi... biyunge, biyunge, we 

ni Umuzayirwa ariko agira ngo biyunge, reka da! Ngo ashwi ngo ararengera HABYARIMANA. 

Habyarimana se amurengera iki ko Habyarimana nawe ubwe yari yemeye amasezerano ya Amsha. 

Hanyuma Mobutu nta kuntu atagize mu masezerano ya N’sele, nta kuntu atahenda henze, iki 

ariko lnkotanyi ziranga. Ku buryo rero iyo nama urebye Inkotanyi sinzi yuko zizayikuramo 

amanota, sinzi ko ~anabona n’icyo zivuga itarild esheshatu z’uku k’wa gatand..., z’ukwa 

gatandatu kubera ko bigize akananira Mana bananira abo bagabo bombi, MOBUTU yarananiwe 

za N’sele za ki e... za Gbadolite. MOI nawe azi aho gase... MUSEVENI amugeze, nawe ntabwo 

barebana neza Museveni nawe yaramujujubije amuterereza Inkotanyi y’Inyakenya. MWINYI 

yarihebye, baramusuzuguye, bamugize imbwa ubwo aribaza ati ibi bintu rwose ............... Ubwo 

rero Inkotanyi mzaba tureba icyo zizashobora kuvuga ariko rero mu by’ukuri ndakeka yuko 

ntacyo zizavuga kuko kujya mu gihugu cy’abantu b’abagabo ukagenda ukakiduruvanga, ukakica~ 

abantu bose ukabakwiza imishwaro, ukarasa, ukabomora umujyi wose ukawurangiza, ntawo 

wubatse, ahasigaye ngo ukunda icyo gihugu, roi bintu ni agahoma munwa sinzi icyo Inkotanyi 

zizavuga dutegereze ariko yenda ndakeka yuko burya umuntu arasara agasa... 


( FIN DE LA FACE A ).

Orateur : Kantano. 

... ntabwo ipfa kwimuka 8usa i8enda genda. Ni blindé nyine ihamye yubatse mu rutare adko ifi 

hamwe n’abaturage irwana urugamba. Ntabwo rero tuba tugenda genda ngo amakuru tuvuga ngo 

nta.., ngo ntabwo natwe tuba tuyazi neza... Ntibishoboka tuba tuyarimo nvose tuyarimo. Nk’ubu 

mu kanya nad ndimo ngcnda ngenda hadya hose mw’isoko nsanga abantu bail mw’isoko ariko 

bareba.., barcba abantu bahunga. Abo bantu bahunga ndababazabite, murajya he, muvuye he. Bail 

twaje twaravuye ku Kacyiru duhungira mufi Sainte Famille n0ne Inyenzi zirimo ziraturasaho 

zasaze e... adko ha none nyine zibateraho ibisasu zifi kurc birumvikana kuko zita.., zitatinyuka 

kuri Sainte Famille noneho bati hinga tube tuzibishije. Nuko bahambira rero utwangushye 

baragenda. Nizere ko ntawababona rero ngo avuge ngo yooo ngo na none byacitse ngo iki. Ariko 

nababwîra yuko na none mu kanya ya masasu yaturikaga bya bisasu b’mini cyane byacucumaga 

Inkotanyi ubu ntabwo bigiturika cyane ndumva rero mwa.., mwatangira mukajya ku mirimo yanyu 

mukajya ku mirimo yanyu kuko Inkotanyi mu by’ukuri kuzitinya ni ugutinya badnga. Bariya ho 

mu Ruhango bababwira ngo Inkotanyi bakîmka simbizi kuva igihe twababwiriye ko Inkotanyî ko 

ad abantu nkamwe hein! Murumva ad ibintu koko by’ibitangaza, kuvuga ngo Inkotanyi yaje se... 

Inkotanyi irihisha ukayikubita umuhini iravunika, irapfa, îrataka, iravuza induru ni umuntu 

nkamwe. Umuntu aze abakure mu byanyu gusa ngo n’uko yitwa Inkotanyi gusa iryo zina gusa 

ngo ad ryo muhunga. Muzadhunga se mujye he ? Mufate imihini, mufate imyambi mwirwaneho 

ibisambo iyo byaje abantu barahaguruka bakabirwanya kandi ntabwo... Igîsambo iyo cyabanje 

kugukura mu birindiro ntabwo ad bwo uvuga ngo bon n8o noneho ngo twara ibi n8o ndekera ibi 

ashwi! Nta gutereta n’igisambo. Urwana ku byawe byose hanyuma noneho igisambo kigacyura 

umunyu. Ubwo rero Inkotanyi muhaguruke muzirwanye byaragaragaye ko ari Baringa. Inkotanyî 

ma gitero zitera ku manywa shwi! Zihen8era nijoro birumvikana ko ubwo ad ukubera ubwoba 

Inkotanyi nta... Mbese, iby’Inkotanyi isjhugu burya imico n’ikîndi imico. Bariya bantu barerewc 

hanze koko baîite uburere bubi. Abantu ubaha ihoteli ngo baryamemo bati reka data ahubwo 

mricukurîra imyobo ukabaha ibyo kurya ngo barye byiza ubagemurira ubatekera ngo kerctse ngo 

bagîye kwicukurira ibijumba, ngo b~’wa birukanka n’ibitonore biba ihene... Aba bantu mu 

by’ukuri barananiranye njye barîya banm rwose muha8arare murwane nabo kuko ndabona ni 

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abasazi ntawamenya uko bameze. Koméra rero adjudant-chefPadiri huuuuu adjudant-chef Padiri 

komera rwose akabarwa kawe 

3.6 

narakabonye huuuuuuuu. Hashize igihe bita na mushuti wawe Mathias (rire). Ngo ad i Gitarama. 

Ubu niho ad, i Gitarama. Ariko rero ubucuti bw’iki gihe huuuuuuuu. Premier soldat 

NIYONSENGA Gérard 5 lème bataillon OPS Byumba hein. Uti njyewe NIYONSENGA Gérard 

uri muri 51ème bataillon uti ndamenyesha ababyeyi banjye bad ku Rushashi ko nkiriho baramutse 

bagize ikibazo batanga itangazo kuri Radiyo Rwanda cyangwa RTLM. Ati rero, ati ubwo icyo 

gihe habita mbageraho hanyuma nkaba nabarwanaho. Hanyuma rero hari itangazo rya préfet 

w’umujyi wa Kigali préfet w’umujyi wa Kigali rero atumiye abayobozi b’urubyiruko 

rw’amashyaka ya politike akorera mu mujyi wa Kigali mu nama yihutirwa ibera ku biro bya 

perefegitura y’umujyi wa Kigali kuri uyu wa mbere tariki ya mirongo itatu z’ukwa gatanu kuva 

saa kumi n’imwe za mu gitondo. Kubera ingingo zikomeye bagomba gusuzumira hamwe 

abatumiwe basabwe kutabura cyangwa ngo bakererwe. Ni mu kanya rero muracyafite igihe uretse 

ko imodoka zabuze adko aba.., préfet w’umujyi, préfet w’umujyi wa Kigali aratu.., atumiye 

abayobozi b’urubyiruko rw’amashyaka ya politike akorera mu mujyi wa Kigali mu nama yihutirwa 

ibera ku biro bya perefegitura y’umujyi wa Kigali kuri uyu wa mbere tariki ya 30/5/94 kuva saa 5 

za mu gitondo. Kubera ingingo zikomeye bagomba gusuzumira hamwe abatumiwe basabwe 

kutabura cyangwa se ngo bakererwe. Muze rero muri iyo nama kugira ngo mwumve nyine uko 

ibintu bimeze hein, by’amashyaka bya politike. Politike iracyariho! Had abantu bavuga bail adko 

ubu tuzongera gusubira muri mitingi ra! Niba n’ibintu bizagenda neza. Tuzazisubiramo ariko 

ibintu ntibizaba bimeze alfa kwa kundi. Nta byitso, nta Ici, nta gusebanya, kandi abantu ad bene 

sebahinzi bashyîze hamwe basangiye Urwanda. Abantu bazajya bajya muri mitingi umwe avuge 

koko icyo azamadra Urwanda, umwe avuge koko icyo azakora adko atad ukujya kuba icyitso 

cy’Inkotanyi wirirwa utukana, wirirwa ngo woshya abantu kubohoza abandi nkaho abo bantu had 

icyaha baba bagukoreye. Mbese za mitingi zizagenda neza kubera ko ibyitso n’amagambo 

y’Inkotanyi zad zaracengeje mu bantu azaba yaravuyemo lmko Inkotanyi zo zizakora za mitingi 

ntawamenya. Ariko bya bindi byo kuvuga ngo zizanye demokarasi ngo zizanye ngo ibiki, 


demokarasi yo gukura abantu mu byabo, demokarasi yo kubaga abantu ubasatura inda, 

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d¢mokarasi y’amasasu ya bya Katiyusha, ibindi bisasu uroha mu mujyi wica abantu hirya no hino... 

Umuntu ukora ibyo, ma dcmokarasi ye. Ubwo rero bazazan¢ îkindi kînyoma ariko icyo 

cyaratahuwe. Nta kundi kundi bigomba kug¢nda. Mukom¢je kumva RTLM radiyo yanyu yigcnga 

ivugira i Kigali mbere yo gukomcza... 

6.5 

Orateur: Ananiya. 

... ya gendarmerie yo ku Kacyiru. Urusaku rw’amasasu rero mwumva, ruri kuvuga aka kanya 

abegcreye muri ako gace niho zagotewe. Nsize abantu bavuga bati ntabwo zifi buhavc kandi koko 

mu by’ukuri ntabwo ziri buhavc. Iyo mbona koko ail ibintu bikomeye nanjyc simba nzamutse. 

Ntabwo ziri buhave rero ngira ngo inkuru umuntu yaba abasogongejeho ni iyo ngiyo. Indi tukaza 

kuyibabwira bamaze kuzitsemba. Ndagira ngo rcro mbonereho nshimirc abo basore bose bari ku 

rugamba barwana ba Kizito, ba Ntwari, ba Nzapfa, ba Rambo, .................. 

, ba Kirarika, ba 

Ramazani n’abo bose dusize ku mabariyeri cyane eyane abambwiye bati iyi bariyeri yo kuri rond- 

point irashushye ndetse hepfo aho ngaho abantu bahagurutse, bahagaze Inkotanyi akazo 

hashobotse. Hariho rero nkuko nabivugaga ngo inkuru y’umwana isubira inyuma, izashatse 

kugerageza kumanuka ariko zikururana ugasanga ko imwe ikuruye indi yakomeretse ariko nabwo 

zigahura n’amasasu. Navuze ko zateye ziturutse ku Gisozi, Gisozi iriya yavuzwe kera. Ariko ngira 

ngo noneho ntabwo ingabo z’igihugu ziri buruhuke, ntabwo Interahamwe ziri buruhuke zitarebye 

n’akabera ku Gisozi hariya uretse ko imbunda zajyaga zizishyigikira zarasiraga muri carrière, 

izindi zikarasira mu gashyamba ko kwa Serubuga ubu nasize zaeeeetse kubera ko imbunda nini 

zaeu zazirushije amajwi. Ikindi rero nababwira ku bitero nk’ibi ngibi by’Inyenzi, muzi ko Inyenzi 

zikunze kwitwikira ijoro intwaro ya mbere, intwaro ya mbere ndagira ngo mubyumve mwese mwe 

murinze umujyi intwaro ya mbere ni irondo kandi irondo mukaba maso. Abantu benshi bagiye 

bagira ibibazo n’Inkotanyi zibasanze ku marondo ni abo zisanga basin~riye. Iyo muri maso, 

Inyenzi zari ziteye, akenshi ha kenshi zisubirayo. Kuko ibitero byazo ni ~ zikareba 

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zitandukanye n’ingab0 z’u Rwanda. Ingabo z’u Rwanda iyo zivuga ziti tuzatera uyu munsi, uwo 

mtmsi ma gisibya, muba maso, mutaba maso ziratera zikarwana zigatsinda. Inyenzi ariko iyo zij¢ 

zigasanga muri maso mukazibanzamo amasasu ya mbere zihita zigenda. Ni gutyo rcro zakubitanye 

ni... kuri iriya tarîki ya makumyabiri n’ebyiri zashatse komok~ra hano muri.., mu Kabirizi muri 

serire ya Kabaken¢ zikubitana n’abantu bail maso bazihata umuriro zihapfushiriza abantu bagez~ 

kuri barindwi zihata n’ibyo zari ziIite byos¢. Ikindi kandi navuga, icyo gitero cyo tuzagisubiramo 

mu kanya ka nimugoroba tumaze kumenya uko cyerekey~. 

9.0 

Ikindi umuntu yavuga ni ku Nterahamwe. Interahamwe ni zikomere, Interahamwe ni zireke gufata 

imbunda ngo zirirwe ziherekeje aba konseye. Nta mu kons~ye ulc~ye escorte y’Interahamw¢ 5. 

Ni imbunda eshanu icyo gih¢ ziba ziri inyuma ya konseye umwe. Interahamwe rero bizîrangaza. 

Bizirangaza ngo zirirwe inyuma ya konseye, zirirwe mu mayoga. Ku rugamba,.., ku rugamba niyo 

Interahamwe zigomba kuba agira ngo Kantano nawe niko ubibona ieyo kintu kiveho 

cy’Interahamwe inyuma ya konseye Interahamwe ku rugamba, kuri front. Amakuru najyaga 

nkunda kubagezaho amah~ yavuzwe mu binyamakuru ariko ntayo nabashije kumva uyu munsi 

ngira ngo mw¢ mwabashij¢ kuyumva ahari aho murayababwira. Ahasigay¢ ieyo nasozerezaho 

nuko nkomeza gushima abo bose bahatana, bari hcpfo iyo ngiyo barashyushye koko Kantano 

ndetse nagira ngo mubonye nk’akanya ko ndabona na rédacteur en ehef waeu ail hano 

twanyaruka mukirebera kugira ngo namwe hari muze kubona inkuru muvuga nyayo y’urw’Inyenzi 

zibon¢ye hariya ku Kaeyiru mu Kinamba aho zat¢ye. Inshuti za RTLM rero mwirirweho n’a ho 

mu kanya kari bukufikire. 

Orateur" Kantano. 

Urakoze Ananiya iyo nkuru ishyushye umbwiye, iyo nkuru ishyushye utubwiye... Icyo ni igisasu 

na none kigurutse kigiye gutsemba izo Nyenzi. Ariko rcro njye nakomeje mbivuga ndavuga nti 

eyakora bariya bantu koko umenya uwabaragudye yarabavtanye ababwira ail mugende 

mwiyahure ntihazagire no... ntihazarokol~e n’uwo kubara inkuru. Navuze yuko umunsi Inkotanyi 

zizajya zi... ziziroha mu mugi hano wa Kigali ngo zije kureba ieyo zafatamo zizashira. None dore 

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bwat~giye koko ziraSl~e kuko izo Nkot~yi, mwumvise ~ko zateye zikagenda noneho zika... 

buk~.~«~o buk~~~ik¢r~o abamu bose bazibona b~_anga abattage, ~teral~mwe iki, OEnjiye 

mu mwobo, akagize ngo karanyura hirya y’inzu, akagize ngo karajya he aho hose barakaranga 

bagat eraho amasasu. Ku buryo rero murumva iki gitero cy’Inkotanyi cyonyine ubwo yenda 

tuvuge ko kirimo abantu ijana, abo rero barashize, Inkotanyi ijana zits~mbwe n’amasasu muri aka 

kanya murumva yuko atari umuhigo mutoya. Nizikom~za gutyo zipfamo ijana buri joro z/pfamo 

ijana ibyo ail byo byose zizashira murabyumva namwe. Murumva rero yuko Inkotanyi hano mu 

mujyi wa Kigali turimo ~a muze namwe mudufahse tuzitsembe hanyuma noneho kugira ngo 

abanm 

11.4 

bazakire ieyo eyorezo eyitwa Inkotanyi byanze bikunze kuko muri uyu mujyi wa Kiga/i mrazimara 

nta kundi kundi bigomba lmgenda. Urakoze rero Ananiya lmtugezaho iyo nkum. Mu kanya 

turabagezaho neza mu buryo burambuye uko bimeze, tubabw/r~ abamaze gupfa uko bangana 

Inkotanyi nyine zimaze gushira hanyuma ubwo ngubwo... Mukomeze mwumve Radiyo RTLM. 

Iyo tubabwira ibintu ntabwo tuba tubatera ngo courage gusa ngo ibintu byaeitse ngo natwe 

mgakina tuba tuzi icyo mvuga kandi ntabwo dushobora kubabeshya. Mujye rero mutwizera aho 

kugira ngo mwumve ibya Muhabura, ~o lmgira ngo mwumve ibya Radio France na ba... ha ba... 

Monique Maes bariya bagore b’Inkotanyi. Ibyo ngibyo ntimukajye mubifataho ukuri mujye 

mwumva Radiyo Rwanda, radiyo yabaye umuvandimwe, hanyuma mwumve n’iyi radiyo yanyu 

radiyo y’intambara yitwa RTLM. Mukomeze rero mwumve umuzika. (Musique de Bikindi). 

... wacu Ananiya yari yababwiye nyine ukunm imirwano yari imeze hariya hepfo hariya hakurya ku 

Kacyiru hafi y’ikigo cya gendarmerie. Hanyuma rero njye na mugenzi wanjye Cmhigi 

twanyarukiyeyo twanyarukiye hafi yaho nyine (rire). Sinavuga ko twagiyeyo twanyarukiye hafi 

yaho kugira ngo turebe nyine ukuntu ibintu bimeze. Hanyuma nyine dusanga umuriro nyine urimo 

kwaka. Ariko rero (rire) mu kanya Gahigi arabibabwira. Jyewe ahari mwagira ngo ndakabya 

inkum ariko mu by’ukuri icyo Inyenzi zishaka, ntawakimenya. Ubu sinzi niba ubu ngubu bagomba 

kuba barabm’oze eyangwa barasaze. Umva nawe ngo mu gitondo zaje.., nako nijoro mu ma saa 

eyenda zaje ziteye zimoka, ziza zimoka zigana imbwa nuko abantu barnwe batangira gukeka ko 

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ad imbwa z’ubushyo.., z’ubushyo bugiye ahantu noneho... Ariko baza kubona ad Inyenzi kuko 

amayeri yazo bamaze kuyamenya hanyuma bumaze kuzikeraho zambara amajipo zambara amajipo 

zikenyera.., reka zishiramo imingini ukagira ngo n’abakobwa beza b’Abatutsikazi naho ubwo ari 

Runyenzi-Nkotanyi. Nuko... umuntu akizaba aba bantu. Ariko rero mu kanya nyine barabakubise 

kabisa hinga Gahigi abibateker~ze. 

Orateur" Gahigi Gaspard. 

Ntaeyo nabona nakongeraho Kantano. Inyermi tuzibonye ziruka zatatanye bazirohamo amabombe, 

bazirohamo amagrenade ariko ikintu njye navuga ibyo by’imirwano ntawabivuga ngo abone uko 

yanabivuga turaza kubivuga nyine tubabwira uko iyo mirwano yarangiye. Cyokora Inyenzi 

19.8 

bazigose ndakeka ko nta Nyenzi iri buve hariya ku Kaeyiru. Gusa ikintu nabwira abatwumva ni 

ikintu Kantano ukunze kuvuga uti abantu bareke guhunga. Iyo bariya bantu ku Kacyiru baba 

barahtmze ziriya Nyenzi ntabwo abantu bari ktmikira. Zari kuza zikajya mu mazu yabo ariko ubu 

zaje zigasanga abaturage bari mu mazu zikubitana n’Interahamwe, zikubitana n’abasirikare ngira 

ngo akazo kashobotse. Ieyo twavuga rero koko ni uko Inyenzi zikunda gutera nijoro, zikaza 

zisesera. Wumvise ko abamrage batubwiye ko zaje zimoka nk’imbwa, noneho zambaye amajipo, 

zambaye ibitambaro mu mutwe, ubu rero ni ukuvuga ko umuturage aho ad hose kuri bariyeri 

agomba kuba maso abantu bakakontorora koko. Abantu bakakontorora bakitegereza, abantu 

ntibakomeze kurangara. Ikindi navuga ni ibyerekeye ibyo kwirwanaho Kantano. Unyura ahantu 

hose bakavuga bati imbunda ziri he, imbunda zigeze he. Ikintu njye navuga n’ubwo iki gihugu 

eyaeu eyaba gifite amafaranga n’ubwo twabona inkunga ntabwo twabona imbunda zikwiriye 

abaturage bose. Ieya ngombwa rero njye navuga nuko Inyermi ubwo zikunze gucengera ail 

ninjoro abaturage nibishyire hamwe, abafite imiheto bayibange, abafite amaeumu ba... bayakoreho, 

abafite irnpiri, abafite amatopito noneho niba ha.ri n’urnwe cyangwa babiri bafite imbtmda babe 

bari hamwe mugakipe. Noneho Inyenzi nieengera nijoro urnuntu ayikubite umwambi ntabwo 

Inyenzî izajya imenya aho umwambi uturutse. Niba kandi abantu bafite imiheto abandi baiite 

amaeumu harimo abafite imbunda zibiri birwaneho bose. Tukumva rero ko buri muntu iyo bavuze 

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ngo kwirwanaho aravuga ati agakoresho se kari he umuntu.., mu mitwe y’Abanyarwanda benshi 

usanga barishyizemo ko agakoresho ail imbunda, agakoresho si imbunda gusa. Umuntu ashobora 

kugira îcumu, umuntu ashobora kugira umuheto undi akagira imbunda abandi bakagira grenade 

noneho igitcro cy’Inyenzi cyaza ibyo bikorcsho byose bigakora mbese bimcze nka dquip¢. Non¢ 

se Kantano ntabwo uzi ko abantu b’abaturage bafite amacumu bica imbogo, bakica intare. Inyenzi 

se ikomeye kurusha imbogo cyangwa ikomeye kurusha intare. Tukîbaza rero ko ibyo bikoresho 

gakondo nabyo byakora. Kandi Kantano mboye ukuntu Inyenzi zirutse hariya ku Kacyiru, ukunze 

lcuvuga uti Inyenzi ziva amaraso nk’abandi urebye ndetse ukuntu zin~ankaga ndumva 

ntawukwiye kongera kugira ubwoba bwazo zigomba kuba zifite ibibazo bikomeye cyane abasore 

bacu barazikubise rwose ku mugaragaro. Ubu rero njye nkumva abantu koko bakwiye gushirika 

ubwoba cyane cyane ko Inyenzi zitera nijoro abantu ntibahunge, kuko iyo uhunze Inyenzi ikagera 

mu nzu yawe 

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kugira ngo bayivanemo bagomba gukoresha za "stream" bagomba gukoresha za grenade kandi ni 

byo Ubu ngubu usanga nyîne abantu bagomba gukoresha ku rugamba. Ubwo rero aho kugira ngo 

babikoreshe basenya inzu yawe babikoresha ahubwo babikubita Inyenzi ariko abanm bagume mu 

mazu yabo, abantu bareke guhunga noneho duhangane n’Inyenzî koko. Naho iby’imirwano 

yabereye hariya ngira ngo hari agasore duhuye kari kavuye yo kabize icyuya karavuga kati 

imirambo nsize hariya bati ni ukugomba kujyana tinga tinga. Inyenzi rero zirakubititse. Ubwo njye 

mu... nimugoroba imirwano irangiye ndakeka ko bitari butinde kuko ubonye ko Utunyenzi 

dusigaye dutangiye haninuka tugana hirya kandi batugose ubwo rero turaza kubabwira Inyenzi 

zahaguye ariko ibyo ail byo byose urebye ul¢unm bazitangatanze, urebye ukuntu umuriro uziriho, 

urebye ukuntu zirukanka zabuze iyo zikwirwa ubanza nta n’imwe iri buhave Kantano. 

Orateur ¯ Kantano. 

Urakoze Gahigi gusa ikintu najye nasubiramo, ni ikintu.., ni ibintu bita guhunga, ibintu bita gutinya 

Inyenzi mu by’ukuri ahubwo ndetse mbonye uko bigenze hariya ku Kacyiru njye ndavuga yuko 

Inyenzi nizititondera uyu mujyi zirashiriramo kuko nta kuntu bishoboka biriya byo k~... 


kwambara amajipo n’iki biriya tumaze kubimenya ubwo Iny¢nzi nizîkomea~ kwîsuka muri uyu 

mugi zirapfa. Ubwo rero abantu bahunze umujyi muwugan~emo mrwane n’Inyenzi-Nkotanyi 

namwe muze mwirebere mb¢se ibirori ukuntu zirukanka zicinya ibirenge nyine zashize murebe 

ukuntu umuntu w’umugabo yikuramo amapantalo n’iki akambara ikanzu ngo batamubona kugira 

ngo ahite yiruka kandi yiyita ngo umunm w’igitangaza ngo w’umugabo ngo wigihangange ngo 

uzarangiza imirwa.., ngo intambara, barwana ngo ni kabutindi ngo ni Inkotanyi. Muze murebe 

nyine bariya bantu ukuntu ail iterabwoba gusa ail akarimi, ari ibinm gusa byo gushyushya imitwe 

bagenderaho naho ubundi ntacyo bari cyo. Ni ha mbofu mbofu na... nta banm nyine bata.., na... 

ha... ni abantu badashitse. Ku buryo rero mu by’ukuri... Turashimira cyane ziriya Nterahamwe, 

ziriya Nterahamwe zirab~aaye n’amabuye, n’imihini, ufite isasu ashyiraho, ufite ka grenade 

ashyiraho, ufite ubuhiri akubita. Mbese ku buryo mu by’ukuri iby’Inyenzi zibonye nyine mummva 

yuko ail ibintu bishimishije cyane. Ahari Inyenzi rero hose mube maso kuri za bariyeri .... 

Ndashimira abanm ho kuri bariyeri, aho twaraye mnyuze GAHIGI urabizi tugenda tureba uko 

abantu bifashe nijoro 

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urabi~ saa moya z’ijoro twavuye iriya ku Muhima tunyura za Cyahafi hose, hose, hose ariko 

abantu bail mu myobo abantu bail hehe mu. Ukahanyura ukagira ngo umuntu ntiyakubonye ah 

wajya lmbona ukabona avuyemo n’icumu n’ikinm gityaye hari ibintu by’ibihoro nabonye 

bakwikira niba ail ibyo gukubita kw’ijosi. Biriya bintu rwose mu Cyahafi n’abantu bameze neza 

aho twanyuze hose kuri za bariyeri aho za Nyamirambo mube maso gusa, ubundi Inyenzi... nta 

Nyenzi izadukura muri uyu mujyi. 

Orateur" GAHIGI Gaspard. 

E... eyakora rero koko Kantano uranyîbukije. Nimugoroba twaraye dukoze ibintu byerekana koko 

ko tudafite ubwoba. Twazengurutse uyu umujyi nijoro tugenda tureba abantu ko bahagaze kuri za 

bariyeri, uko bakontorora. Nkagira ngo koko nanjye nshimire abantu twanyuzeho bose muri iryo 

joro kuri bariyeri kandi twari dusize ku Muhima amasasu avuga ariko abantu... Twageze hariya 

ho bita kwa Mutwe tunyuze hasi ariko kuri bariyeri mgezeho tugasanga bose babimenye inkuru 

C~e n° O116 transcrite.par, OL 18

~~0!.653 

ya... bay/menye bateze. Bati twumvise ko Utunyenz/twatangiye kurasa aho za Girl cy’/nyon/, bati 

turi rnaso ma Nyenzi itunyuraho. Kandi koko wareba abo bantu tflamtu bahagaze ugasanga koko 

nta Nyenzi yabanyuraho. Nkagira ngo rero nsh/me abantu kuri za badyer/kand/nkomeze 

nshyig/kire n’igitekerezo cy’ulamtu abantu koko bumvise abantu ba... bavuga bati baduhe 

ibikoresho noneho tujye Imbohoza Gasyata, tujye Imbohoza za Kanombe tukumva ko koko 

abasore b’Abanyabyumba, abasore b’Abanyand]enger/, abasore b’Abanyakibungo, umuntu 

abahaye ib/koresho navuze ko ad ibya gakondo a.dko bakagira n’utubunda duke, bashobora 

kugenda bagafatanya n’ingabo noneho bakajya Imrwana iyo mu giturage twamenye ko nta Nyenzi 

nyinsh/z/riyo, 

¯ bagafatanya n’ 

abasmkare. 

" " 

Noneho [ntambara ikaba mrangiza koko, intambara aho 

Inyenzi zivuga ko zafashe zikahakubitirwa abaturage bakajyayo bagahangana nazo abasore 

bakajyayo bahangana nazo bagafatanya n’îngabo noneho njye ndabona aho igihe kigeze dukwiye 

no guhindura n’uburyo bwo kurwana n’Inyenzi. Inyenzi intambara ikaba nn’angiza ikaba icyo bita 

mu gifaransa une guerre totale. Buri wese akayirwana, umuturage niba tuvuga ko dufatanyije 

n’ingabo, n’urubyimko... Udashoboye kurwana agatekera uwo musore, agatekera uwo 

musirikare noneho umushikare agahangana n’Inyenzi aho ziri hose mu gihugu aho lmgira ngo 

dukomeze Imrwana kuri bwa buryo ngo nibagemure, ngo nibafate amamodoka bagemurire 

abasirikare, ngo nibafa.., abasore 

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nibitekere. Inyenzi se zo zigemurirwa na nde ? Twamenye n’amayeri y’Inyenzi. Uzarebe Kantano, 

Inyenzi zikunda gutera ail uko imyaka yeze zikagenda zirya ibigoïi, zikagenda aho zigeze 

zigatonora ibishyimbo zigateka ayo mayeri yazo ntabwo atunaniye natwe dushobora guteka 

noneho turwane n’Inyenzi koko maze tuzarebe amaherezo yabo. 

Orateur ¯ Kantano. 

Nibyo Gahigi ndakeka yuko ni ugukenyera tukarwana. Naho bariya bimkanka bagenda bahamiriza 

ngo ngaho zageze i gi... î Critarama bakaba bahavuye ngo ngizo ku Kibuye bakaba biroshye mu 

Kivu... Abo ngabo ndakeka yuko, abo ba bwoba njyewe rwose ndabagaya ndacyakomeza no 

kubagaya. Bagomba kugand¢a ~ana kuri capitale umujyi w’igihugu cya¢u tukarwana ku 

Cassette n° 0116 transcfite par OL 19

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gihu~ ~c~ mkajya im~,~ ml~mvilc~a mbc~« ~m ikmm ~m~m y~ora umwe ~aî~l~ 

~cli um~m ya~~ba a~l~bi ~~m~a y~kugisha m~a ati «se ko I, ye~~i zin)~~« aha, tun),~e 

he twe ~]rura. Noneho mu~bira h~ati ndetse ~ks~~wana n~,o. Ubtmdi ~yenzi 

zatahuwe nta mbaraga zigifite nta Ici zifite ibibazo ishyano ryose nazo, zifite ibibazo ubu ngubu 

sinzi niba ee imihanda zanyuragamo ),ose ikiri mizima hari iyagiye irimbuka, sinzi niba ibiryo zari 

z/rite zikibifite ariko zaje nyine ibiryo byeze wa mugani wawe. Zirarya imyumbati, zirarya iki. 

Bariya bantu ni uwabaroze, umuntu arabaha ibiryo babagemuriye imiceri n’iki ariko bati shwit 

Twe tugiye kugunzura ibigori, tugiye kujya turya amashaza mabisi nuko. Ariko rero, ibyo ail byo 

byose biragaragara yuko Inyenzi ni ugukangata zibeshya. Nta kintu ha kimwe zishobora gukora. 

Tugomba rero lcurwana nazo mpaka rùba zishaka ko koko tuzimara nk’uko Museveni yazibwiye 

tuzazimare. Niba zishaka na none gucisha ma/ce zikaza zikatwikubita imbere ziti mur/ 

abavandîmwe tuzemera tube abavandimwe mzak~e yenda tuzibabarire. Ariko rero zatugiriye nabi 

cyane. Ni igihe cyo kwicuza, zigomba kwicuza igihe kitararenga. Mukomeje kumva RTLM radiyo 

yigenga ivugira hano i Kigali saa tanu zirabura iminota itanu. (Musique). 


( FIN DE LA FACE B ).

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