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Broadband Stakeholder Group – oral evidence (QQ 550-622) Broadband Stakeholder Group – oral evidence (QQ 550-622) Evidence Session No. 8. Heard in Public. Questions 550-649 WEDNESDAY 13 JUNE 2012 Members present Lord Inglewood (Chairman) Baroness Bakewell Lord Bragg Lord Clement-Jones Baroness Deech Lord Dubs Baroness Fookes Lord Gordon of Strathblane Earl of Selborne Lord Skelmersdale ________________ Examination of Witnesses Mr Richard Hooper CBE, Chairman, Mr Antony Walker, CEO, and Ms Pamela Learmonth, CEO designate, Broadband Stakeholder Group Q550 The Chairman: A warm welcome to both of you from the Broadband Stakeholder Group. Richard Hooper, you are the chairman, and Antony Walker, you are the chief executive. Antony Walker: That is correct. Richard Hooper: Behind me is the chief executive designate. Antony Walker is demob happy—he is going to become the deputy director of Intellect, so he is in his last couple of weeks. The Chairman: Would the chief executive designate like to come and get into practice? Come up to the front. You are rather lonesome back there. Richard Hooper: We will basically delegate difficult questions to Antony and very difficult ones to the chief executive designate, Pamela Learmonth. The Chairman: Obviously we are most grateful to you for coming. Thank you. The meeting is being broadcast so, before we formally start, could you just each say who you are? If you would like to make a brief opening statement, please feel free to do so. Richard Hooper: I am Richard Hooper, chairman of the Broadband Stakeholder Group, known to some of your members for the work on the Royal Mail, which I am not going to talk about today. The Chairman: And digital copyright. 48
Broadband Stakeholder Group – oral evidence (QQ 550-622) Richard Hooper: And digital copyright, but I gather you are going to do something on intellectual property, so I should be delighted to come back for that, because there are some exciting things in that area—sometimes as exciting as broadband. Briefly, the BSG is an industry body. It is a critical friend, we hope, of the Government and Ofcom, and it is made up of telcos, fixed and mobile, content providers—BBC, ITV—and also equipment manufacturers like Cisco and Ericsson. That is the BSG. Antony Walker: I am Antony Walker. I have been chief executive of the Broadband Stakeholder Group since about 2001, so pretty much through the whole course of the deployment of broadband in the UK, so I have a fairly long background in the evolution of the broadband market. Pamela Learmonth: As Richard said, my name is Pamela Learmonth. I have been working at the Broadband Stakeholder Group for a number of years and, on Antony’s departure, I am due to take on his role in a number of weeks. Q551 The Chairman: Just as a matter of interest, within your decision-making structure, is it one man, one vote? How do your decisions evolve? Richard Hooper: We do not tend to vote; it is more an industry body. What makes it interesting from your point of view is that actually we reflect a wide diversity of interests. For example, we have those who are very keen on local community networks—Malcolm Corbett at INCA. I do not know whether they have appeared before you, but they are at that end. Then we have the big industry end, with BT and Virgin Media. Q552 The Chairman: Is it fair to say that you tend to find ways of reaching a degree of consensus in what you say? Richard Hooper: Yes, I think so. The style of the group is to foment disagreement if possible, because then we can actually find out what people really think, but yes. Q553 The Chairman: That is fine. I am just trying to find out, from this very wide range of people who are behind you, how you get to the conclusions you reach. Richard Hooper: On the whole, we get some good consensus. Something that Pam is working on at the moment is a code of conduct for the open internet. One of her jobs is to get that, and I think we are getting that. Antony Walker: I would also add to that. We have always been very clear about the BSG. The BSG’s role is not to be a trade association; it is not there to represent members. It is really there as a forum to bring people together to try to discuss and resolve complex issues. We have never seen ourselves as a representative organisation. We are much more a forum to discuss and, hopefully, provide insight into some of the various complex areas of broadband policy. Q554 The Chairman: Let me just get the ball rolling with a very general question. The Government have told us that they intend that this country should “have the best superfast broadband network in Europe by 2015”. Do you think this is a sensible way of describing what they ought to be trying to do? If it is, what do you think the characteristics should be of what emerges? Richard Hooper: What constitutes “good” or “best” is probably the most important question. Let me just start by saying, first of all, it is multi-dimensional. It is not a single thing. One of the issues is that people can be obsessed by speed: “It is only good if it is 49
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