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Live Blog #1; Please Unrecommend 

by Ellicatt [Subscribe] 

Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:04:35 AM EDT 

The hearing, "Department of Justice Oversight", is scheduled to start at 9:30am EST. C-Span1 is 

scheduled to carry it from 9:30am to 10:00am; C-Span3 will carry the full hearing. At 9:00 am, CNN 

said, and I quote, "See it live this hour". 

Viewing/audio options: 

C-Span 3 

Real Audio 

Windows Media 

CapitolHearings.org; follow directions. (I have never used this service, so I can't speak for it. 

bumblebums advises me that this service provides an audio link.) 

No pictures please as a courtesy for dial-up users. New diary starts when current one reaches around 

250 comments. Please recommend new diaries and unrecommend old diaries to minimize the number of 

Live Blog diaries on the Rec List. 

Ellicatt's diary :: :: 

Additional viewing option: 

Reuters feed (courtesy of peace voter - I couldn't put this in the "intro"; told me my intro was too long!) 

List of Live-Blog Diary volunteers for today: 

Part 2: donnamarie 

Part 3: kate peterson 

Part 4: Miss Blue 

Part 5: Catte Nappe 

Part 6: asimbagirl 

Part 7: jancw 

Part 8: Night Owl 

Part 9: gonzo 

Part 10: drational 

Part 11: 

Part 12: 

Part 13: 

Part 14: 

Part 15: 

We need more diary volunteers. If you would like to participate today in producing one of the live-blog 

diaries, please leave a comment indicating your preference for one of the open slots in response to my 

first comment. We'll take up to 20 total names. Thank you! 

To today's live-blog diarists: For new diaries in today's series, please link back to the previous diary 

only. This will save you time in your diary preparation. Also, please copy the remaining diary volunteers 

list into your new diary entry. 

The only witness today will be Attorney General Alberto Gonzales 

Committee Members: 

Patrick J. Leahy 

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If you had a chance to read Gonzales' op-ed piece in Sunday's Washington Post, you already have an idea 

of how his testimony will go. If you haven't read it, here's the link and some snippets. I intentionally 

bolded passages that stood out to me while I read the piece. 

Nothing Improper 

While I accept responsibility for my role in commissioning this management review 

process, I want to make some fundamental points abundantly clear. 

I know that I did not -- and would not -- ask for the resignation of any U.S. attorney for an 

improper reason. Furthermore, I have no basis to believe that anyone involved in this 

process sought the removal of a U.S. attorney for an improper reason. 

All of these documents and public testimony indicate that the Justice Department did not 

seek the removal of any U.S. attorney to interfere with or improperly influence any 

case or investigation. 

While I have never sought to deceive Congress or the American people, I also know 

that I created confusion with some of my recent statements about my role in this matter. 

(He then goes on to basically lay the blame at the feet of Kyle Sampson.) 

During those conversations, to my knowledge, I did not make decisions about who 

should or should not be asked to resign. 

(He concludes with) 

In part because of my own experience, I know the real strength of America. It lies in our 

Constitution, our people and our collective unyielding commitment to equal opportunity, 

equal justice, common decency and fairness. ... 

byteb's diary from Sunday provides community commentary regarding Gonzales' op-ed piece. 

If you weren't around here Sunday evening, here is a "must-read diary" by (Kosmate and trial lawyer) 

jonnykilbane: A trial lawyer reviews Gonzales' WaPo statement. 

But in Gonzo's case, there are no less than five instances where he does nothing short of 

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are useless or, at worst, he is telling a tale so improbable that he must be lying. Not only 

are these five statements remarkable for their sheer volume, to my mind they also lay out 

a simple fact: somebody, or something, somewhere can or will definitively prove that the 

smoke we've been smelling for the last few months isn't from a grease fire in the kitchen, 

but rather it is from a fire raging throughout the whole damn house. 

That, or Gonzales is mentally unfit to be Attorney General. 

If you would like to read along during his opening statement, here is the link to the PDF file, provided 

by C-Span. Some of the highlights: 

I have taken these important steps to provide information for two critical reasons: (1) I 

have nothing to hide, and (2) I am committed to assuring the Congress and the American 

public that nothing improper occurred here. 

.. We further should agree on a definition of what an "improper" reason for the removal of 

a U.S. Attorney would be. As former Acting Solicitor General and Assistant Attorney General 

Walter Dellinger has stated, an improper reason would be: "The replacement of one or 

more U.S. attorneys in order to impede or speed along particular criminal investigations for 

illegitimate reasons." 

I know that I did not, and would not, ask for a resignation of any individual in order to 

interfere with or influence a particular prosecution for partisan political gain. I also have 

no basis to believe that anyone involved in this process sought the removal of a U.S. 

Attorney for an improper reason. 

While reasonable people may dispute whether or not the actual reasons for these decisions 

were sufficient to justify a particular resignation, again, there is no factual basis to support 

the allegation, as many have made, that these resignations were motivated by improper 

reasons. 

... I have not spoken with nor reviewed the confidential transcripts of any of the 

Department of Justice employees interviewed by congressional staff. I state this because, 

as a result, I may be somewhat limited when it comes to providing you with all of the facts 

that you may desire. 

I made mistakes in not ensuring that these U.S. Attorneys received more dignified 

treatment. Others within the Department of Justice also made mistakes. As far as I know, 

these were honest mistakes of perception and judgment and not intentional acts of 

misconduct. 

I delegated the task of coordinating a review to Mr. Sampson in early 2005. 

Mr. Sampson periodically updated me on the review. As I recall, his updates were brief, 

relatively few in number, and focused primarily on the review process itself. During those 

updates, to my knowledge, I did not make decisions about who should or should not be 

asked to resign. 

Near the end of the process, as I have said many times, Kyle Sampson presented me with 

the final recommendations, which I approved. I did so because I understood that the 

recommendations represented the consensus of senior Justice Department officials most 

knowledgeable about the performance of all 93 U.S. Attorneys. I also remember that, at 

some point in time, Mr. Sampson explained to me the plan to inform the U.S. Attorneys of 

my decision. 

I also want to address suggestions that I intentionally made false statements about my 

involvement in this process. ... I do acknowledge however that at times I have been less 

than precise with my words when discussing the resignations. 

For example, I misspoke at a press conference on March 13th when I said that I "was not 

involved in any discussions about what was going on." That statement was too broad. ... 

Of course, I knew about the process because of, at a minimum, these discussions with Mr. 


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Sampson. Thus, my statement about "discussions" was imprecise and overbroad, but it 

certainly was not in anyway an attempt to mislead the American people. 

We must ensure that all the facts surrounding the situation are brought to full light. It is 

my sincere hope that today’s hearing brings us closer to a clearing of the air on the eight 

resignations. 

That is why I intend to stay here as long as it takes to answer all of the questions 

the Committee may have about my involvement in this matter. I want this Committee to 

be satisfied, to be fully reassured, that nothing improper was done. I want the American 

people to be reassured of the same. 

And it goes on and on and on. I'm hoping that at least at this point, he'll be cut-off and that the rest of 

his opening statement will be made part of the record. The remainder of his opening statement covers 

National Security, Protecton of Children, Violent Crime, Drug Enforcement, Civil Rights, Border Security, 

Intellectual Property Enforcement, State/Local/and Tribal Assistance, and Responsiveness to Congressional 

Reports. In total, it is 24 pages long. 

In reading through it, though, I found the following paragraph in the National Security section 

"interesting": 

We all recognize that we cannot afford to make progress in the War on Terror at the cost 

of eroding our bedrock civil liberties. Our Nation is, and always will be, dedicated to liberty 

for all, a value that we cannot and will not sacrifice, even in the name of winning this war. 

I will not accept failures in this regard. ... 

Then we have Ex-Justice Official's Statements Contradict Gonzales on Firings, regarding Michael A. 

Battle, former director of the Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys. 

Battle told investigators that he was "not aware of performance problems with respect to 

several" of the prosecutors when he called to fire them, Schumer said in a conference call 

with reporters yesterday. 

Schumer said Battle also contradicted Gonzales's assertion at a March 13 news conference 

that he had not seen any documents or participated in any discussions about the firings. A 

memo related to the dismissals was passed out at a Nov. 27 meeting attended by Gonzales 

and others, Battle told investigators. 

"Mike Battle remembers a memo was distributed," Schumer said. 

From this bit of information, we can surely guess the direction of some of Schumer's questions. Can't wait 

to hear how AG AG answers these questions! 

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from earlier this week: 

At some point after the election last Nov. 6, Domenici called Bush's senior political adviser, 

Karl Rove, and told him he wanted Iglesias out and asked Rove to take his request directly 

to the president. 

Domenici and Bush subsequently had a telephone conversation about the issue. 

The conversation between Bush and Domenici occurred sometime after the election but 

before the firings of Iglesias and six other U.S. attorneys were announced on Dec. 7. 

Iglesias' name first showed up on a Nov. 15 list of federal prosecutors who would be asked 

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the firing of Iglesias, including sources close to Domenici. The senator's office declined 

comment. 

mcjoan's Saturday night diary, Impeach Gonzales, contains excerpts from an interview with former 

Department of Justice Attorney, Daniel Metcalfe, who retired in January. 

...these excerpts on the extreme politicization of the department by poorly qualified Bush 

sycophants underline precisely why Alberto Gonzales should never have been confirmed 

Attorney General. And why he should be removed from that office now. 

Justice Department's Independence 'Shattered,' Says Former DOJ 

Attorney 

[M]ost significantly for present purposes, there was an almost immediate 

influx of young political aides beginning in the first half of 2005 (e.g., 

counsels to the AG, associate deputy attorneys general, deputy associate 

attorneys general, and deputy assistant attorneys general) whose 

inexperience in the processes of government was surpassed only by their 

evident disdain for it.... 

[T]he process of agency functioning, however, became dramatically different 

almost immediately after Gonzales arrived. No longer was emphasis placed 

on accomplishing something with the highest-quality product in a timely 

fashion; rather, it became a matter of making sure that a "consensus" was 

achieved, regardless of how long that might take and with little or no 

concern that quality would suffer in such a "lowest common denominator" 

environment. And heaven help anyone, career or noncareer employee, if 

that "consensus" did not include whatever someone in the White House 

might think about something, be it large, small or medium-sized.... 

You have to remember that this is a Cabinet department that, for good 

reason, prides itself on the high-quality administration of justice, regardless 

of who is in the White House.... But that strong tradition of independence 

over the previous 30 years was shattered in 2005 with the arrival of the 

White House counsel as a second-term AG. All sworn assurances to the 

contrary notwithstanding, it was as if the White House and Justice 

Department now were artificially tied at the hip -- through their public 

affairs, legislative affairs and legal policy offices, for example, as well as 

where you ordinarily would expect such a connection (i.e., Justice's Office of 

Legal Counsel). I attended many meetings in which this total lack of 

distance became quite clear, as if the current crop of political appointees in 

those offices weren't even aware of the important administration-of-justice 

principles that they were trampling. 

Fasten your seatbelts, folks. We're going to be in for one helluva ride! 

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Meteor Blades' Kos Office Pool on Gonzales from March28? I'm out of the running. I 

had picked Monday, April 9; 10:15 am. I figured that there would be no way Gonzales 

would still be around to testify today. Boy was I wrong! 

Also, reply to this comment if you would like to sign up to be a diary volunteer for 

today. 

Does everyone have their snacks and beverages handy? I think its going to be a long 

and fun day! 

by Ellicatt on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:00:22 AM EDT 

[ Reply to This | Recommend Troll ] 

Question Ellicatt 

(7+ / 0-) 

Do you think we should copy in all your research in subsequent Live Blogs or refer 

people back here? 

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take 

our breath away.- not George Carlin 

by donnamarie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:02:34 AM EDT 

[ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend Troll ] 

I'd say just to refer them back here 

They should copy the links, the "rules", and the volunteer list. It will make it a lot 

easier on them! 



Absolutely excellent 

"What journalism in America chiefly suffers from today is the lack of alert and 

competent professional criticism." H.L. Mencken 1927 

by gchaucer2 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:19:33 AM EDT 


Many thanks to all the live bloggers from 

by feelingsickinMN on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:05:22 AM EDT 


Don't forget to Rec this diary n/t 





I lost a long time ago (6+ / 0-) 

(12+ / 0-) 

research and overview for first live blog. You have gone above and beyond what I had 

expected. Thank you so much. 

those of us who had arranged to take off Tuesday but are today at work! (I'm having 

popcorn anyway.) 

I said he'd be gone the friday after the news broke. I thought for SURE he'd go away 

with his tail between his legs, saying he wanted to spend more time with his family. 


(13+ / 0-) 

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Har! 

Raising them right (or LEFT as the case may be!) 

by mytribe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:24:03 AM EDT 


I thought the same thing, mytribe 

Once again, I underestimated the Bush administration's determination to achieve a 

mafia-like stranglehold over this country, the law be damned. 

by phoenixdreamz on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:37:17 AM EDT 


Bumblebums at #3 

had to drop out due to a missing pootie. Best wishes on finding the lost pootie. 





Thanks for letting me know. 

I hope she has luck in finding her kitty. 



Is the responsibility just to post a diary 

at the proper time? If so, I can take over #3 - I will be online and on the computer but 

can't actually liveblog or monitor comments. 

Food and the art of improvisation: 

Jazz Cooking 

by kate petersen on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:10:20 AM EDT 


Yes, that's it. I'll put you down as #3 

Thanks, kate! 

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No problem! n/t 

(5+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 


Jazz Cooking 



So is today's hearing ... (9+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

"The Great Gonzo will Now Eat a Rubber Tire to 'The Flight of the Bumblebum's Pootie'" 


(7+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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? 

- What happens on DailyKos, stays on Google. - 11/7 changed everything. 

by Jon Meltzer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:09:54 AM EDT 


What's for breakfast? 

Ooooo, Grilled Liar, my favorite. 

Fire up the hibachi Chairman Leahy. 

Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating 

dissenters. --Justice Robert H. Jackson 

by kingubu on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:02:48 AM EDT 


grilled liar 

with a side of egg-on-the-face 

"getting caught".....the greatest Republican sin. According to Republicans. 

by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:35:35 AM EDT 


See Abu squirm. 

Squirm, Abu, squirm! 

(3+ / 0-) 

Let's go back to E Pluribus Unum 

by hazzcon on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:05:14 AM EDT 


For some good speculation... 

and tons of analysis on Gonzo's possble replacements, try After Gonzalez, the 

Deluge? w/poll by Land of Enchantment. 

by ek hornbeck on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:08:13 AM EDT 


That's a great diary. highly recommended. n/t 



Great Analysis in that Diary. Highly rec'd n/t 





Attorney General Coulter. (11+ / 0-) 

You heard it here first. 

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Please 

by Conservative Liberal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:19:00 AM EDT 


Over/Under 

(3+ / 0-) 

If that's a joke, it's not funny. If it's not a joke, it's even less funny. 

I'd rather see AG Ted Nugent than that. 

but think of the confirmation hearings! 

by citizenx on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:19:51 AM EDT 


You're right. 

Nevermind. I love it. 

by Conservative Liberal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:20:20 AM EDT 


(8+ / 0-) 

by citizenx on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:10:27 AM EDT 


He might have to cut it short... 

by MediaFreeze on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:14:20 AM EDT 


Is he going to read 

(6+ / 0-) 

on how many times Gonzo brings up VaTech. 

The line is 10. 

Propably only have time to read his statement and scadaddle to get back to protecting 

our kids. 

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the whole statement? It was really long, and covered lots of topics that were totally 

unrelated to the USA firings... 

by mlecin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:19:54 AM EDT 


Just 7 minutes per the guy on cspan 

I was wondering the same thing. 

(4+ / 0-) 

by bahaba on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:25:41 AM EDT 


Over/Under "I didn't mean..." n/t (1+ / 0-) 

Phillybits - "...quoting a senior defense department official speaking on condition of 


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anonymity..." 

by Stand Strong on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:27:19 AM EDT 


re: Over/Under 

by phoenixdreamz on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:47:04 AM EDT 


Nice preface Elicatt... 



Good morning 



Peace. 

(1+ / 0-) 

on how many times Gonzo says "I can't recall." 

(7+ / 0-) 

Good morning. Nice to see ya'll here today. 

Viva Gonzales! I hope he gets everything he deserves. 

(5+ / 0-) 

Thanks for the compliment, too! 

I look for Schumer to be today's top bulldog; I'm sure Leahy will get in a bunch of good 

ones, too. 

I think Leahy may get his incredulity on today 

No one does incredulous like Pat Leahy; I love the way his eyebrows arch in the face of 

bold lies! 

by Jennifer Clare on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:18:07 AM EDT 


There's a reason Cheney hates him 

and may I say also, prolly the same reason he got anthrax mailed to him. 

... we now know a lot of things, most of which, we already knew... (-dash888) 

by Tirge Caps on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:40:18 AM EDT 


Thank You, Media Freeze n/t 

(1+ / 0-) 





d'oh that was meant to go w/wozzle's comment n/t (1+ / 0-) 




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Comment taken ;-) 

"One way or another, this darkness got to give" 

by wozzle on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:16:53 AM EDT 


Many thanks to Donnamarie, Ellicat, 

and all the others who set the liveblogs up and offer such excellent, timely commentary. 

Those of us in Cubeville really appreciate it! 




Thank you wozzle n/t 





ditto 

I'm stuck in a cube in the basement. I don't even have a window! At least I have Daily 

Kos live threads ;) 

( -7.63, -5.69 ) Live in NoVA? Join us at Drinking Liberally Arlington! 

by grrtigger on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:09:19 AM EDT 


I'll volunteer 

Just let me know when you need me. Thanks! 

"This...this is the fault of that Clinton Penis! And that powermongering wife of his!" 

by CaptUnderpants on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:12:57 AM EDT 


If its OK, I'll put you in at #11. n/t 



good to see this level of organization (6+ / 0-) 

I hope that all of those offering diaies will transfer all of the links to the various audio & 

video feeds. 

```` 

peace 

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take a holy vow to never kill again 

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by peace voter on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:20:22 AM EDT 


Pretty sure they will 

We've been fairly organized about this in the Call for Volunteers diaries. ;-) 





Yeah. 

I've never "attended" a live blog like this before. My son's watching Elmo beside me, 

though, so I don't know how long that can hold out. 


anonymity..." 



Late afternoon live blog 

I am stuck in client meetings this morning (damn!!!!) and won't be back in my office 

until early afternoon. I am going to try to follow the live blogs on my blackberry this 

morning, although that will become difficult as the blogs get longer (damn, having 

clients can be sooooo inconvenient). I have access to a live stream in my office and can 

volunteer for one of the blogs 16 or subsequent. Let me know. 

"In order for this country to be credible, the President has to mean what he says." -- 

G.W. Bush 4/18/07 

by litigatormom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:17:07 AM EDT 


Good to see you 

Thanks for volunteering for later this afternoon if needed. We'll let you know! 



Link to Reuters feed 

During the Sampsom hearings some used the Reuters feed. 

I didn't use it myself, but had the link in my live blogging diary. 

````` 

peace 




Thank you! (3+ / 0-) 

I'll add it to the diary. 

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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Currently it links to Samson feed. Don't link yet 





sorry 

I thought it would work. 

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peace 

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I put it in anyhow 



can you check later 





How long is this supposed to go? 

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by FleetAdmiralJ on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:19:25 AM EDT 


C-Span Coverage (2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Maybe they'll switch it to this hearing when it starts. 

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and see if they're doing a live feed for this hearing? I'll post a link in part 2 and Ellicatt 

will post in this one I'm sure. 

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All day? until their finished? Until Gonzalas breaks down and falls to his knees begging 

for forgiveness? 

On C-Spans schedule it starts at 9:30 on C-Spanfor 30 minutes and then moves to C- 

Span3 for 3 hours. 






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Peace. 

Peace. 

that's good to know 

I think I'll watch the first half hour - then come back to join join you all. 

```` 

peace 




Only 3 hours? 

That is nowhere near enough punishment. He needs at least 8.full hours. 


G.W. Bush 4/18/07 



I think until Gonzo spontaeously combusts 



Woo-hoo, here we go!! 



I've brought in my 

1976 boom box with 8 fresh D cell batteries. I don't want to be cut off online feed. I 

wait with bated breath and thanks to all you are setting up live blog diaries. T minus 3 

minutes. 





what radio channel? n/t 


G.W. Bush 4/18/07 



NPR is covering (1+ / 0-) 

gavel to gavel. 

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It's five hours of testimony to go. 

I've got the radio on, two monitors open, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses. 

Hit it. 




asdf 

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Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. 

"I will make a bargain with the Republicans. If they will stop telling lies about 

Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them." -- Adlai Stevenson 

by sbdenmon on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:47:07 AM EDT 


Sadly, the # of comments 


G.W. Bush 4/18/07 



So, is anyone gonig to keep a count 




Good Idea. But I can't. n/t 

(0 / 0) 

Has already exceeded my Blackberry's capacity to download. Have fun, everbody, I'll 

see you later. 

of how many times he says "I don't remember," "I don't recall" or other similar 

statements? 

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The Alberto Gonzales Recollection Drinking game 

Take a shot for every "don't remember" . . . and pretty soon, you too won't be able to 

remember a damn thing. 

by funhaus5 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:24:31 AM EDT 


Someone had a program (5+ / 0-) 

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that could keep count during the Sampson hearing -- hope they run it again. 


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I understand his total was 122! n/t 



I don't think that numbers go that high. n/t 


Jazz Cooking 



Huffpo 

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Had the count for the Sampson appearance. 

A village in Texas is missing it's idiot. Will they please come get him? 

by dotsright on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:31:40 AM EDT 


"Insert 'infinity' sign" 


anonymity..." 



I would, but... 

So, is anyone gonig to keep a count of how many times he says "I 

don't remember," "I don't recall" or other similar statements? 

...I'd probably keep forgetting to do it. 

(I used to work for the Bush Justice Dept.) 

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him 

power." -- Abraham Lincoln 

by chumley on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:55:41 AM EDT 


Gooooooooood morning!!!!!!!!!! (6+ / 0-) 

Yar. It's early out here. 

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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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early here as well 

goood morning 

``` 

peace 




Bring on the Klieg lights! 

Let's fire 'em up... 

Run roaches run... 



Yes, we must have klieg lights forthwith! 

Light 'em up! 

Funny. 

- 

"Judge me on the content of my character, not the underwear on my head." 

by Bill in Portland Maine on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:44:34 AM EDT 


Klieg lights! Nooo-ooooo! 

No the dreaded klieg lights! 

My god, have those Democrats NO deceny?! 





Onlt 7 minutes... 



Thank goodness 

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CSPAN just said Gonzo can't read all 27 pages 

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He had his own little filibuster going there... 



I won't be around to comment (5+ / 0-) 

or help with live blogging. 

I have my spinning wheel set up and ready to go. I plan to waste the day away, 


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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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spinning some beautiful colorful romney-corriedale wool while watching Gonzo sweat! 

Off I go... 




You and Gonzo! n/t 

Against silence, which is slavery. -- Czeslaw Milosz 

by Caneel on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:26:51 AM EDT 


Knitting would be more appropriate 

than spinning, Mme Lafarge. 

by unclejohn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:50:52 AM EDT 


hee 




Please have pity 

by MyBrainWorks on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:26:07 AM EDT 


That's what Live Blogs are all about!! :-) n/t 





Hear, hear! (0 / 0) 

-8.38, -7.49 

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spinning or knitting a fabric of lies ;) Either way. 

I need some zen, and spinning is zen for me. I can do it mindlessly while 

watching/listening to tv. 

Knitting or rather what I'm knitting now (lace) requires too much attention and counting 

for me to pay attention to tv too. 

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on the cable- and streaming audio-impaired. 

Please, somebody transcribe the juicy bits here for those of us who can't watch or 

listen. 

Thanks, and pass the popcorn! 

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Please. Pass along the good bits. 

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by papercut on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:37:20 PM EDT 



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Alberto 

in the house...let the grilling begin 

by kekuta on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:26:47 AM EDT 


I'm not going to blog much of AGAG's opening 

testimony since I've provided the pdf link above. 

Just wanted to let y'all know! 



Take an early break Ellicatt. 

Great research in the diary too. Nice work. 





Lttle AbuG just slithered into the room 

Smiling like a cheshire cat. Leahy looks fresh and ready for action. He's immediately 

taking charge, insuring that those who have waited in line can get into the room. 

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse. ~ Lily Tomlin 

by vigilant meerkat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:28:47 AM EDT 


Leahy 

is talking now 

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I am not recommending this diary! (3+ / 0-) 

So long as the most current diary is on the rec list, I will not rec an Open Thread diary. 

Why? 

I'm lazy! 

Rec, move to new diary, unrec old diary 

rinse 

repeat 

... 

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(7+ / 0-) 

So if you would like to join me in my slothful habits, feel free. Just remember to tip 

the generous diarist! 

We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from 

us. 

by Fabian on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:29:36 AM EDT 



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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Exactly 

Rec, move to new diary, unrec old diary 

rinse 

repeat 

We are trying to keep only one Live Blog diary on the Rec List at a time. 

From the body of this diary: 

Please recommend new diaries and unrecommend old diaries to 

minimize the number of Live Blog diaries on the Rec List. 





Going, going, Gonzalez 

6:36 AM PDT here. Only my second cup of tea and no brekkie yet. Let's get this show 

on the road. 




No Networks carrying this... 

Fox had video but talked over it... 

All have gone to a Virginia presser... 



they'll probably show Gonzo's opening statement 

and cut away anytime the Dems are showing that he lied under oath 

Send Tom Tancredo packing 

by Oreo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:31:51 AM EDT 


Networks 

Haw! Most Americans couldn't even tell you what the Attorney General does for a living. 

Gonzo won't sell much soap or cream rinse. 

Intelligent Designer Laments Lapse in Intelligence 

by mrblifil on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:32:23 AM EDT 


NPR covering (2+ / 0-) 

gavel to gavel. 

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In the immortal words of Kenny Blankenship 

"Let's... get it on!" 




"Rampant war-profiteering", per Leahy 

Wow, this will be an interesting line of questioning to follow... 

Peace. 



BREAKING 

The foolish and the dead alone never change their opinions. James Russell Lowell 

by Serendipity on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:31:55 AM EDT 


Definitely 

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Profits of all anti-perspirant companies soaring! Analysts attribute this to phenomenal 

purchases being made by all of those being called before Congress to testify in the US 

Attorney Firing scandal. 

One CEO who had a TV going in his office during an interview exclaimed, "Hey, that's 

the guy who bought a case yesterday," when he saw the sreen filled with the face of AG 

Alberto Gonzales. 




Sub-Headline 

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looking into Depends futures... 



No shit (1+ / 0-) 

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Dems block legislation allowing GOP to negociate prices on anti-persirant... 

He looks confused, which is kind of funny. 

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Better than that shit eating grin he always has though. 

by kml on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:40:38 AM EDT 



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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Dammit 

Wrong thread 



What's up with Gonzales' cheerful handshakes 

with Democrats and his double-backslapping of Ben Cardin, looking supremely confident 

and content? Meaningless formality, bluster, or something to be worried about? I 

sincerely hope that we don't see the sorts of pathetic, anemic, overly solicitous 

questioning that we witnessed during the Roberts and especially Alito hearings. Is Mrs. 

Gonzales in the hearing room, ready to cry on cue? Will Feinstein respond with her 

patented "Oh, ok, that doesn't sound right to me but if you say so, who am I to call it 

a lie?" fecklessness? 

There had better be a Dem or two in the room ready to slice and dice the AG as 

warranted. 

"There's no doubt in my mind that the dialogue here in Washington strengthens our 

democracy. Period." -- General Peter Pace, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff 

by kovie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:32:08 AM EDT 


This is a Bushie move 

initiate bold physical contact in order to establish alpha status and emasculate your 

enemy. 




Thanks for the visual, 

I'm on radio feed. 





The extra times he's had to prepare 

has also been time for him to co-ordinate leading rebutal questions with the Repubs. 

It's not like Sessions and Cornyn are going to give him a hard time. 

Vyan 

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Truth 2 Power Blog - Radio 

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by Vyan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:44:56 AM EDT 


Ah, now the witness is looking grim (13+ / 0-) 

For the cameras, no doubt. Compressing his lips and frowning as Leahy lays out the 

reason for the hearing in stern terms. Leahy leaves no doubt that he should be 

considered armed and dangerous this morning. He is on a mission. 


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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Alberto 

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stop shaking your big head 



In a sign that I'm living right 

I don't have to go into work until 2 pm today! YAHOO! OMG work really messes up my 

becoming an informed citizen! 

by bobnbob on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:33:56 AM EDT 


I pulled a late shift 




In a sign that I'm living right 



oops - don't know what happened there 



You can say that again 

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Today as well. Was really congratulating myself on having Tuesday, the 17th, off but 

this is working out as well. 

I don't have to go into work until 2 pm today! YAHOO! OMG work really messes up my 

becoming an informed citizen! 

but I forgot to add the most important part 

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Ellicatt! You are a peach and every one of the 

other bloggers who have committed to creating the diaries you are true American 

Patriots! 

I took the day off. It's worth it, even if all I see and hear is more lying. 




Conclusory statement (12+ / 0-) 

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What a slap! Those of us who are lawyers hate that term. In law school, I thought the 

word "Conclusory" was the ultimate put-down. 


04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Leahy is going for Abu's goat right off the bat, assuming Abu has at least one brain cell 

and picked up on the slap. 




Am 



definition of "conclusory" 

by MyBrainWorks on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:38:13 AM EDT 


More gestures for the camera 




Nope...Not on TV 



They 

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loving this show 

For non-lawyers: 

con�clu�so�ry 

Pronunciation: k&n-'klüs-rE, -'klü-s&- 

Function: adjective 

: consisting of or relating to a conclusion or assertion for which no supporting 

evidence is offered. 

Shaking his head as Leahy reads the sordid background of the whole matter. Again 

with the shaking of the head. Oh my, this is going to be interesting. AbuG is signaling 

his position, which appears to be denial, denial, denial. 

Not on CNN... Not on Fox... Not on MSNBC... 

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have better things to report on...chai 



Can you imagine... (6+ / 0-) 

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If this was Clinton's AG... SHEESH... This nation has a big problem with the media... 




04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Are you referring to 





Um 





Leahy 

"War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are 

going to profit from it." -- George Orwell 

by joanneleon on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:36:15 AM EDT 


Peace. 

this not being carried live on CSPAN or CSPAN2, except for the first few minutes, due 

to CSPAN's policy of always deferring to live activity on the floor of the house and 

senate when they're in session, no matter how important other activity might be? If so, 

you can catch this on CSPAN3 live, tonight on a repeat broadcast, or online when they 

put it up. 

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It's being carried live right now on CNN, broken up with commentary by Bruce Fein and 

Jeffrey Toobin. Of course, the CNN bobbleheads immediately biased it against the Dems 

by casting their questioning as harsh and "unfriendly"--as well as Toobin by calling 

them a "lost cause" for wanting his head and watering down the egregiousness of 

Domenici's call to Iglesias. The running theme appears to be that, at worst, Gonzo and 

the Bushies were guilty of being careless and overly political. I.e. no actual crimes here. 

Can one sue a major media outlet for being blatantly stupid, dishonest and rediculous? 

Purely rhetorical question, of course, but still apt, I think. 

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Partisan loyalty as the standard 



Wow, Leahy (13+ / 0-) 

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I trust that after the AG's past failures providing complete information will not be 

repeated today 

[a few min ago the camera cut to AG who was shaking his head as if what Leahy is 

saying is not fair or true] 

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by which performance will be judged...if the WH did nothing wrong then show us...if 

there's nothing to hide, then the WH should stop hiding it. 

is hitting every dispicable note of this insidious administration. He's going to be doing a 

lot of reaming. 






04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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What must it feel like? 

To sit there and listen to Leahy hammer home all the inappropriate/illegal things you've 

done (at least in this matter!) while you're preparing to lie your ass off to save it. It 

would be very odd, I think. 

"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -- Gandhi 

by akasha on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:36:53 AM EDT 


He reverted to scrawling notes n/t 




Leahy 

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we heard disturbing reports that politics played a part in the process. 

Fear the justice dept. may be losing its way. Should not be reduced to being an arm of 

the WH. 

Since AG last appeared, we've heard sworn testimony...contradicts the plan to replace 

of the USA's...from 3/13. 

Firings (of the USAs), the reason for the firings - politics vs. performance. These firings 

haven't been explained. The dismissed USAs testified (they believe there was political 

influence - this is highly improper). 

Talks of Rove's involvement with Iglesias' firing. He was shown in high regard, chosen 

to train others, then the '06 election, the admin received calls from NM elected officials. 

True accountability requires (action). 

Unilateral approach from the government - no checks and balances. Within days of the 

election, plans were made; they sent the unmistakable message...that traditional 

independent law enforcement (would not be sustained). 

The WH political operatives did not have effective and objective law enforcement as 

their goal,... another political arm of this admin. People need to stop hiding the facts 

for the truth, the whole truth. What was done and by whom. 

Entrance ramp - this admin has envisioned a political (). Unbridled political meddling, 

Katrina style cronyism. This admin concluded that any answer would do, whether 

(factual or not). We need to facts..to get to the truth. 

The current action has served to undercut confidence in the USAs. He cannot escape 

accountability...his actions has served to undermine public confidence..in the rule of 

law. 



Ellicat, as always (2+ / 0-) 

You are AMAZING at this. 

Thank you for your service. 

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You're welcome! ;~) n/t 



Ditto 

"There is no path that lets me live my life other than this path. Therefore, I walk this 

path." -unknown 

by poichick on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:03:31 AM EDT 


Wow Leahy is letting him have it. n/t 




Leahy Makes the point 

by drational on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:37:22 AM EDT 


I though Gonzo 



Fucking 

Way to go, transcribing all the best bits for us poor saps who can't watch it for 

ourselves. :) Have a cookie. 

That the Firing Plan was first shared by Sampson with Elston and McNulty 

On election day, November 7, 2006 

was a real estate attorney? 

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specter is using the race card 



Spectre has no shame 

Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live. 

by LionelEHutz on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:38:55 AM EDT 


Arlen (7+ / 0-) 

kissa-my-ass, Specter. 

Playing the minority card. 

What a scumbucket. 

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Spectre, we don't care about Abu's biography 

so stop filibustering already. 




Specter 

"Distinguished record"? "Role model"? Blech. 




I would think 

every GOOD Hispanic lawyer in the country would be insensed over that remark. 

Holding up some piss poor example of the profession as the best they can do, what a 

slap in the face. 

by mmacdDE on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:19:30 AM EDT 


Specter 

Come to hearing to re-establish credibility, justify firings and demonstrate leadership. 

Not going to happen 





My husband's first words this morning upon waking 

GONZO! 

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I responded, "It's an early Christmas for liberals!" 

We're here with coffee ready to mainline, and laptops at the ready, and it's barely light 

on the West Coast! 

Heh. Specter just told Gonzo that he had first to reestablish his credibility. 

"Poverty or wealth can make all the differences in securing the substance or only the 

shadow of constitutional protections." -Wiley Rutledge 

by asimbagirl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:38:20 AM EDT 


Spector talks about Gonzo's story....again.... (2+ / 0-) 





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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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He leaves out the chapter about his hackery at 

DOJ though. Abu's story is really one of political hackery -- from Texas right through 

Washington. 




Here's where Arlen goes from tough talk... 

before the trial to nicey-nice. 

He called Gonzo's written statement "pablum" 




Spectre's playing the role of Tom Davis today 

(Tom Davis from Waxman's hearings) 




Does it EVERY time n/t 





Specter 

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What's wrong with Spector's eye? n/t 

I want my country back. NOW! 

by enough on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:39:00 AM EDT 


Abu had him tortured (4+ / 0-) 


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Thanks for your work. 

Gee I wish I would have sworn you in when you were confirmed. 

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Why do you think he's being so nice... oh yeah... this is Specter we're talking about. 




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No clue 

but it's freaking me out. 

Popped blood vessel maybe? 



Too much winking. n/t 

witness 

by Friend of the court on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:06:36 AM EDT 


The stress of supporting Bush cronies 

is getting to him. 

Everybody better leave the room - I think the eye thing is the warning before heads 

explode. 



I Don't Remember 

Spector having a bum eye. Did he burst a blood vessel? 

Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is 

strength, mastering yourself is true power. 

by FLDemJax on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:39:11 AM EDT 


Trying to carry Bush's water 

is hard work. 

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It's Either That 

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or someone has been at him with a sharp stick. 





A pointed stick? (1+ / 0-) 


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That Works For Me Too n/t 





I've heard it happens just before 

your head explodes. 

"Keep raisin' hell!" - Molly Ivins 

by MA Liberal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:45:17 AM EDT 


....... 

GMTA. 

Should have looked a little further 



I just friggin woke up. 

I need an IV of caffeine. 

Great start, btw, Ellicatt. 



Specter's a racist... 

praising this scumbag because he's Hispanic? 

Yeah, we're prejudiced against Gonzales because he's denying Jose Padilla his rights. 

Assholes. 

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"It's better to realize you're a swan than to live life as a disgruntled duck." 

by Mumon on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:39:28 AM EDT 


Jesus, Arlen! 

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Why don't you just get a room for you and Abu?! The praise and high regards you show 

for him is sickening! 

Christ! I hate this standard "Thank you for this and thank you for that." 

Can we just get down to business? 

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anonymity..." 



Now Specter is getting a little tougher (6+ / 0-) 

saying that Gonzo has been contradicted by his subordinates. 


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Yeah, but he'll cave, it's in his nature 

Eventually, he's going to offer cover to Abu, make excuses for him, and muddy the 

waters. 




Specter 

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is a tool of the white house.. 



Bringing up Clinton 

Indifference to the sublime wonder of living is the root of sin. -- Abraham Joshua 

Heschel 

by countrycat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:41:37 AM EDT 


Arlen = a**hole 

(7+ / 0-) 

Why not note that EVERY President replaces USAs - at the BEGINNING of their terms? 

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The South Will Rise (Blue) Again Blue Dawn Politics 

by cfaller96 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:45:14 AM EDT 


He spoke at the RAC conference on Tuesday... 


Heschel 



Spector: Clinton did it too! (6+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

I really want to throw something hard at Arlen's mug on TV when he brings up the 

"Clinton did it too!" defense. Jesus, what an a**hat. 

the day after Tommy Thompson made his "Jews are good a making money" gaffe. 

And said the same thing to us about Clinton! I couldn't believe that nobody booed him 

(but I was glad they didn't - too rude). 





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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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One swell foop! 93 at once! 

"We're all working for the Pharoah" - Richard Thompson 

by mayan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:43:18 AM EDT 


Re-establish credibility? 

How do you re-establish that after you've already lied?? 

F**k you Arlen! 


anonymity..." 



Now it's Specter's turn 

Laying out all the prestigious bits of AbuG's Harvard Law background, and the fact that 

he is Hispanic. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Slipping in some 

words about "leadership," and Gonzo's entitlement to "a day in court." Leahy looks 

contemplative, resting his chin on his hands, looking down. Now AbuG is nodding in 

response to Specter's pseudo-testimony on behalf of AbuG. Specter reminding that 

AbuG is there to establish his credibility. Oh, oh, here we go with the Clinton meme. 

These people have no regard for the truth. None. 




I'd like to see Gonzo have his day in court 

by Califlander on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:44:26 AM EDT 


Clinton 



Peace. 

Heck, I'd even draw up the indictment. 

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is to be blamed...et tu specter 

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Specter: Notwithstanding demands 

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for your resignation from Democrats and Republicans alike...I would like for you to have 

our day in court... 

You said you were not involved in discussions of firings, your subordinates said you 

were...you said you did not see documents, your subordinates said you were... 

Laying out Abu Gonzo's inconsistencies in rather thick detail 



Preemptive Expression of Annoyance WIth Code Pink (5+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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A pox on them for whatever they're going to do 

by bernardpliers on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:41:27 AM EDT 


LIVE on CSPAN 

CSPAN has it up live! 

That's very good. 



Goes to c-span3 at 10 am edt n/t 





Bummer 

I like the big screen. I want to see every bead of sweat that pops up on that frowny 

brow. 




Leahy's Opening Statement 

was strong. "I hope the AG doesn't repeat his past appearances before the committe 

(where he was less than forthcoming)". 

And even Specter is talking strong, but he's been all hat and no cattle so often, it's 

hard to gauge. Most likely he's going to provide Gonzo as much cover as he can. 

Vyan 




aghghg... 

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Specter!!! i feel like I'm drowning in a gallon jar of mayonaise. 




Oh for puck's sake! (7+ / 0-) 

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Specter babbling on and on. 

And throwing in "well, Clinton fired 93 at once." 

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He's really not this stupid. What a tool he's become. 

~~insertobscurereference,pretentiousquoteORsalientaphorismhere~~ 


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by shayera on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:42:25 AM EDT 


Specter 

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This is your opportunity Mister Attorney General . . . to restore your credibility. 

Did you catch the derision in this opening clause. 




It sounded like a warning 

AbuG has been instructed on what is necessary and he better be forthcoming. 




Only having Specter 




Specter is reserving judgment 




Arlen Specter ALWAYS reserves judgment 



Specter (9+ / 0-) 

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On the audio link, the man is seriously enough to put a person back to sleep. 

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until "we hear from you," until you have had a chance to give your version." 

Suggesting a case by case analysis of all of the USA's who were asked to resign. If 

AbuG knows of any removed improperly, "you should say so," and perhaps have them 

reinstated. 

... until Karl Rove tells him what to think. 

Specter's opening statement is interesting because he is starting out on the premise 

that Gonzales needs to "restore his credibility." In other words, the ranking Republican 

has conceeded that Gonzales did something wrong and that he has a credibility issue. 

The framing on this issue is all on the Dems' side. If the guy's own party's leader is 

taking this sort of stance, he is in trouble. 

by Nathan in MN on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:43:30 AM EDT 



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Will be reading this tonight 

I have to travel today so will be missing the fun. Looking forward to reading these 

diaries tonight. (I'm escaping the rainy northeast and fleeing to sunny Florida for a 

week!!!) Thanks in advance to the commentators who transcribe or summarize. It's 

greatly appreciated. 

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies.. 

by lesliet on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:43:48 AM EDT 


Specter 

specter 

(11+ / 0-) 

purpose of this oversight hearing is to determine this comm's judgement whether 

gonzales should continue in that capacity 

ag had to surmount... now the chief law enforc officer of the US 

we further apprec your status as a role model as first hispanic AG 

as i see it you come ot this hearing with a heavy burden of proof to do 3 things 

-restabl you cred 

? US attorneys 

-demonstrate that you can provided leadership to doj that has such a vital role 

have insisted publ and priv that you have your so-called day in court 

others in doj have contradicted your statements 

have said you were not involved in discussions, said you did not see memoranda and 

again your subord testif under oath that you were at meetings where memoranda were 

distributed 

sampson, bill mercer, michael battle said that you were involved in deliberations 

this is your opportunity, mr attorney general, to tackle that burden of proof to reestabl 

your credibility 

WRT USAs pres can remove US attorneys but there can not be a removal for a bad 

reason, that is, that suggestions have been made because Carol Lam was hot on the 

trail of Duke Cunningham... 

until we hear from you I'm going to regard them as allegations 

alleg were made that iglesias was removed because he would not initiate things he felt 

were unwarranted 

i think that is the role of a senator, allow discussions openly 

you called me on a saturday 

i outlined what i thought you had to address 

i suggested to you that you make a case by case analysis for each of attys that were 

asked to resign 

if you conclued that some were asked to resign improperly you should admit it - there 

are procedures to reinstate 

pretty hard to unscramble the eggs but that is a possibility 





Arlen Specter Never Ceases To Amaz- (3+ / 0-) 

ingly disappoint me. 

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His chair of the comittee was fertile ground for what will come out today. 

::: 

"Let's put a shoe in there!" ~ Haywood Nelson 

by nowheredesign on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:44:09 AM EDT 

[ Reply to This ] 

Is Specter trying to hypnotize 

the audience into a stupor? Just going on and on and on. 




Get your 



Specter... 

(2+ / 0-) 

Bobble Head Gonzo Dolls 

...collect the entire set. 

(3+ / 0-) 




Specter (10+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

"Look, here's what you need to say in order to keep your job." 

...you are given your "day in court"...you said that you were not involved in any 

discussions..your subordinate testify to the contrary. You then said that you did not see 

memorandum...your subordinates testify that you were at meetings where memos were 

distributed. Said you were not involved in deliberations..testimony from Sampson and 

Battle said that you were involved in deliberations. 

This is your opportunity to tackle that burden of proof, the heavy burden of proof to 

reestablish your creditability. 

There is no doubt that the pres. can remove for no reason, and Clinton did that - in '93 

he removed 93 USAs, but there can't be a removal for a bad reason. That Lam in SD 

was replaced 'cause (she was investigating) Cunningham; where a USA can't be 

replaced because allegations were made - until we hear from you, I refer to these as 

allegations - Iglesias removed 'cause he wouldn't initiate prosecutions he felt were 

unwarranted. 

I have been candid with you in suggestions as to what you should do. I think that is 

the role of a senator - to discuss issues openly. I wrote to you outlining what you 

should address. This is not a game of gotcha - we want the facts. Make a case-bycase 

analysis of the USAs asked to resign. If you concluded on reexamination that 

some were asked to resign improperly, say so and consider reinstatement. 

Leadership - no one short of the SOD has a more important role..than the AG. In your 

effort to distance yourself, denying (all), you face the horns of dilemma. very tough 

dilemma that you face. 

This is as important a hearing that I can recall, more important than your confirmation 

hearing. In a sense, it is a reconfirmation hearing. 



04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Is Sen. Magic Bullet up yet? 

Oh yeah, he is...damn. 

Politics is the deliberation of one's moral enterprise. 

by Omen on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:44:49 AM EDT 


How many softballs is Arlen gonna throw to Gonzo? 


anonymity..." 



spector is leading the witness 

gonzo has got to go. today. 

by lgb30856 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:45:20 AM EDT 


More important than your Confirmation Hearing 

Cuz now we actually have you under oath 



Specter 

(finishes) 





mer up. 

(9+ / 0-) 

you face the horns of a dilemma 

i believe you have come a good distance from the day you said this is an overblown 

personnel matter 

this is more important than your confirm hearing in the sense that it is like a 

reconfirmation hearing 

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Paraphrase: "I'm not putting up with any bullshit from you Gonzo!" 




Shumer (7+ / 0-) 

going for the throat 

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"A prediciment of the AG's own making..." 

Go Schumer! 

Looking for straightforward answers, not "I don't recall." 

dissent not only welcome... but encouraged 

by newfie53523 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:46:27 AM EDT 


Go Schumer! 

"I hope we have a minimum of I Don't Recalls..." 


anonymity..." 



Arlen ends with... 

this hearing is more important than any previous hearing, more than Abu's confirmation 

hearing... essentially like a re-confirmation hearing. 

by Wide Awake in NJ on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:46:30 AM EDT 


Not quite 

a re-confirmation hearing would be an impeachment hearing, IMHO. 



Schumer! 

Yaaay! Now it's going to get good. 

Then Sessions (my senator). I'm embarrassed for the state of Alabama. He's such a 

JERK - as we shall soon see. 

oohhhh.... "answer straightforward question from a senator..... higher burden of proof 

now..." 

sic him, Schumer! 

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Heschel 



Sessions up now. (0 / 0) 

Don't say I didn't warn you. 

(9+ / 0-) 

"Tough job for USAs and for AG a tough job. Great challenge, great responsibility." 

Good God. Why not just drop to your knees and give Gonzo a blow job while you're at 

it? 


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yuck. 


Heschel 



Schumer: 

"Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla 

starts throwing barrels at you." -- Fry, Futurama 

by LithiumCola on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:46:34 AM EDT 


Schumer - since Gonzo has practiced so much 




Thank God! 




Specter helped Gonzo prepare 

by Dave in RI on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:46:52 AM EDT 


coaching a witness is legal? 

by arthura on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:49:16 AM EDT 


paj1 

If 

(16+ / 0-) 

I hope and expect that we will be expected to a minimum of "I don't recall." 

there is no excuse for "I don't recall" responses 

I never thought I'd be so happy to see Schumer! 

Had individual discussions with him about what his testimony should include. That 

doesn't sound right. 

Can that be true? 

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(0 / 0) 

you tell the truth, why do you need coaching? 

by paj1 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:53:33 AM EDT 


but it seems as though Gonzo (1+ / 0-) 


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ignored his advice, huh. 



Of course he ignored it 

it didn't come from Rove or Bush 



hadn't heard that 

agree with you... seems improper. But, so much does with this mess. 




Specter might have tipped... 

...Fredo about what the committee had, what others has testified. 

by Dave in RI on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:04:35 AM EDT 


There's precedent 

Lindsay Graham helped Roberts or Alito or Both, and then sat in with the Judiciary 

Committee. It's a fucked precedent but it's there nevertheless. 




Schumer preemptively cuts off the "I don't know" 

If you can't give straightforward answers and remember recent events, how can you 

run the department? Ouch. :) 

Dialogue is not possible, however, in the absence of a profound love for the world and 

for people -- Paulo Freire 

by rcald on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:47:31 AM EDT 


Schumer throwing down the gauntlet!!! 

Answer the questions! 

Joe, when are YOU going to take a walk in Baghdad? 

by Phil S 33 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:47:52 AM EDT 


Schumer (18+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(9+ / 0-) 

This is a predicament of AG AG own making. Minimum of "I don't recall"; after all of 

this time, if the AG can't answer a straight-forward question.. how can he run the 


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department. 

Of course we aren't going to see an email that says "fire carol lam 'cause she's 

prosecuting cunningham"...when those firings occur against a backdrop of 

misstatements, etc. what are we to think. 

here the cirumstantial evidence is growing, the AG must refute it. 

I hope we won't hear the AG repeat like a mantra, like a defense that the pres. can 

dismiss for almost any reason. ... if congress doesn't challenge a silly plan isn't doing 

its job. The issue isn't whether the admin has the power, its about how it exercises its 

power. 



GO CHUCK!!!!!!!!! 

WOW!!! 

Chuck preempts the "I don't recall" answers!!! 

right on! 




good preventive attack 

on the serve at the pleasure of the president meme 

"Yours for Humanity" Abby Kelley 

by Abby Kelleyite on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:48:23 AM EDT 


Schumer is earning his salary with his opening 

statement! 

Good job Schumer 

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by merbex on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:48:30 AM EDT 


No More Forgetting (4+ / 0-) 

Every government official above a certain low "pay grade" (or other criterion of 

responsibility) should have to conduct all business on a video camera (with mic). The 

video should be held secret, reviewed only by a machine to ensure that the full time on 

duty was in fact properly recorded. After all the laws that could call it as evidence 

eventually see their statue of limitations expire, most of them can be deleted, though 

the higher ranking officials should remain recorded for posterity, and probably a random 

sample for historians. 

This is public business. There should be no more excuses of bad memory that somehow 

excuse bad behavior that they also can't remember. The rest of the public is recorded 

in every way, without even the consideration of retiring those recordings. We should 

hold the powerful who work for the public to an even higher standard. And today it's 

cheap and easy to do it. 

Let's do it. Before we forget how important it is. 

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST 


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by DocGonzo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:48:39 AM EDT 


Peace. 

Schumer: I hope we will get a minumum 

of "I-don't-recalls" 

When there is no cogent explanation for the firings, when there are constant 

contradictions, what are wew to think... 

Hope we won't hear the AG repeat like a mantra that the President can legally hire and 

fire USAs for any reason... 

Pre-emptive Schumer! 



Schumer: 




Sessions up. 

(8+ / 0-) 

3 Points for Mr. 2-Minutes 

1. Gonzales better be honest 

2. Better not go "Zero Recall" on us with all his training and prepping. 

3. Gonzales better not parrot the White House talking points. 

(3+ / 0-) 

Happily throws out "Serves at the pleasure..." blah blah blah. 




Sessions pours kool aid for all n/t 




Schumer set a high standard for Abu's testimony. 

He is pretty much doomed from the outset. Tee hee. 

by MajorFlaw on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:49:08 AM EDT 


Schumer (11+ / 0-) 

first we must get sincere answers from AG... clear responses and not evasions 

hope we won't get meandering answers that take up time but don't answer the question 

if he can't answer a question how can he run the dept 

burden of proof is shifted 

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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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when there is no cogent explan for most of th firings, mounting contradictions, constant 

coincidences... what are we to think 

every lawyer knows that cases are often made with circumst evidence 

burden is on the AG to refute it 

if he can't give clear and consistent reasons for firings, hasn't succeeded in providing 

proof 

if pres calls for firing anyone with IQ under X points, he's entitled, but foolish ... an AG 

who unquestionly execute it, 

shouldn't keep his job 





I'd like to point out that today 

on CSpan's WAshington Journal, the guest reporter responded to a caller's accusation of 

a partisan witch hunt by reminding him that the Clinton hearing were partisan, but 

today's hearing is supported by both Repugs and Democrats. 

Though we know there are is at least one shill (Sessions) on the committee, hopefully 

the others will hold true in the pursuit of democracy. 

by goodasgold on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:49:20 AM EDT 


Specter to AG -You face the horns of a dilema 

you are either incompetent and detached, or you are a liar. 

This is in a sense your "re-confirmation hearing" 

Now it goes to Schumer: 

Sincere and direct answers 

Clear and distinct answers 

No "I do not recall" answers 

(7+ / 0-) 

If he can't answer, how can we expect him to run the department. 

Everything up to date constitutes circumstantial evidence of wrong-doing: this places 

the burden of proof on the AG to rebut any wrong-doing. 




Sessions - kind of just talking right now 

(3+ / 0-) 

talking about what USAs do and that it's a "tough job" and that being Attorney General 

is a "tough job" 




USAing and being AG is 'hard work" (1+ / 0-) 



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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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He's never said anything worth hearing. 


Heschel 



which is painful 

no matter what he is talking about. 

Once in awhile you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right... 

by Glic on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:51:00 AM EDT 


hard work n/t 




Sessions 

The are appointed by the president and can be removed by the president. They have to 

be held to account for the performance of their duties. 

(Being AG) is a very tough job; great challenge with great responsibilities; must be 

above reproach. We have questions that have to be answered. 

I believe you should have been more involved in the process; don't believe this was a 

necessary process in the way it was conducted. 

It has hurt the dept., raised questions. When the USAs go into court, they appear 

before juries. The juries must believe...they have integrity. Your ability to lead the 

dept. is in question. 



Swearing him in! 

Let's go! 




Even Sessions is warning him 

Amazing 

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Session is (0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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just a boring guy 



No he's a sleeze n/t 




He typifies 




NO 




Sessions is being a little tough himself 




Sessions 




The Oath 

the "banality of evil". 

(0 / 0) 

his job is to get you to turn the channel. Nothing to see here. Move along. Being boring 

is part of the strategy. It's also important for them to run out the clock. 

at least he's not totally kissing Gonzo's ass. perhaps because he's a former USA 

himself? 

(0+ / 0-) 

We have some questions and those questions must be answered. 

I believe frankly you should have said NO. 

He is prompting AG to parrot the "I wish we had not gone down this road." 

Your ass is on the line - so be honest. 

(1+ / 0-) 



Sessions ... (0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

"I believe you are a good person" ???? WTF we didn't say he ate kitties douchebag! 


04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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AG takes the oath 

and doesn't spontaineously combust! Damn! 

"In the United States, political will is a renewable resource". Al Gore, An Inconvenient 

Truth. Re-new and re-elect Gore, 2008. 

by Lisa Lockwood on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:51:27 AM EDT 


Did the bible smoke when he touched it? 

If faced with a stark choice between security and freedom, doesn't it seem like the 

choice of a courageous, patriotic American should be obvious? 

by Ken in Tex on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:53:39 AM EDT 


The Oath - Let Gonezos Lies Begin! 

by leonard145b on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:51:31 AM EDT 


New 

(0 / 0) 

sheriff is in town 



Leahy swears him in 

with emphasis on the words "the whole truth" 

[Yes! Finally he's officially under oath] 





Gonzo's hoarse 

from rehearsing, I bet. 

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hoping for some voice cracks n/t (0 / 0) 





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Mission accomplished! 





Sessions says... 



Pfffff... 

To announce...that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only 

unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. 

by potownman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:25:16 AM EDT 


The requisite VTech cover 




Abu 

Can we get some tears? That would be cool. :) 

Gonzo's ability to lead the department is in question... but he's a good person and that 

will show through. 

Who gives a shit if he's a good person if he can't do the f'ing job? 

not gonna help you, Gonzo 

(2+ / 0-) 





Batter Up!!! 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

remembering the victims in Virginia. Will take up time to shorten his opening so he 

can't slip in the lies he's already been caught on. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

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Oath administered. Peter Lorre starts talking...Wraps himself in VT flag. 




Leahy emphasizes "...the WHOLE truth.." (1+ / 0-) 




04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Here comes Sessions 

Whining and droning. Very tough job for the AG. A great challenge and a great 

responsibility. You must be above reproach. "It does appear that your statements . . . 

unnecessarily minimized your involvement." It has raised questions that should not be 

raised. AbuG taking notes. Leahy is swearing AbuG in. AbuG is giving his statement. 

His voice is bit weak as he reads his notes. Intro statements about the events at Va 

Tech. 




Wally Cox 

by reef the dog on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:52:22 AM EDT 


now that you mention it n/t 




Fredo uses VT 




I hope law enforcement people bravely respond 




Schumer said 

(4+ / 0-) 

Anybody else remember that little guy? That's who Abu reminds me of. 

(2+ / 0-) 

to get things off to a sympathetic start. 

and arrest that architect of tyranny. 

(4+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

"don't repeat, like a mantra, that the president can fire these attorneys for any reason, 

or no reason. If the president decided to fire all attorneys with an IQ over 120, because 

he didn't want any smart people on the job, it would be legally permissable - but if the 

Congress [allowed it,] they would not be doing their jobs." 

-8.38, -7.74 what's wrong with Conservatism? 

by condoleaser on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:52:39 AM EDT 


And a VaTech zinger to start with (3+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Am I the only one who's being sickened by Abu's first statements trying to draft on the 

VaTech tragedy? Yech. 

by geordie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:52:47 AM EDT 


OK, the POS is under oath now. 

What's the over and under for the timing of his first lie? I'm thinking it will take less 

than five minutes. Won't even need to wait for the questioning, he's gonna come right 

out of the gate lying. 



There it is: 

"I've always sought the truth throughout my personal and professional life." There's his 

first lie. Is anyone keeping score? 



Oath 

(5+ / 0-) 




Did gonzo just say 




nice try 

(4+ / 0-) 

Do you solemnly swear that your testimony will be the pause whole (5 decibles louder 

than the rest of the oath) truth? 

that since emergency responders bravely responded to the VT shootings, that shows 

how dedicated AG is to law enforcement? 

(3+ / 0-) 

not gonna work, turdball 

(5+ / 0-) 




He was hoping (3+ / 0-) 

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everyone would just say "Okey dokey, that's settled. We can all go home now". 






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Could've seen that coming a mile away... n/t 

by catnap1972 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:55:40 AM EDT 


And did. n/t 

-8.38, -7.49 



Wonderful 

but those first responders don't work for HIM. They work for VT, the city of Blacksburg, 

and the state of VA. 

NOT the feds. 



iws it time for no. 2? 



yes it is 




Gonzo telling the truth? 

Why start now? 


Heschel 



Uh. he says they "deserved better" 

Uh... why? 

He's as incompetent as any of those jerks. What a wonderful way to pry open the door 

with questions. 

Now he's attacking those who attack his "integrity." 

Uh...what integrity. 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 




Attacks on my integrity (4+ / 0-) 

hurt me. Boo-frickin-hoo Abu! 

(0 / 0) 

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by nogamez on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:54:10 AM EDT 


Then stop lying douchebag 

Does satan wear a suit and tie, Or does he work at the Dairy Queen- Martin Sexton 

by strengthof10kmen on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:55:45 AM EDT 


Hard to attack 

what doesn't exist... 



Time for the next live blog thread! 




Abu says 

the attacks on his personal integrity have been very painful for him. 




Not as Painful 

As what our torturees have experienced. 

Asshole. 





Abu baby Gonzo is sorry this has turned into 

a public spectacle. 

(1+ / 0-) 

So sad. This guy... so sad. 




"My only mistakes (5+ / 0-) 

were my misstatements." 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Boy you just made another one there. 

(1+ / 0-) 

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Says his statements 

caused confusion. 

Well, duh. When you lie to deliberately sow confusion, that is what usually happens. 




Geebus Christmas! 

Session's is a Goober. 

And YaY - Gonzales isn't going to read all of his written statment. "I accept full 

responsibility for this. I reject the allegation that I failed to tell the truth, these attacks 

on my intregity have been very painful to me. I should have been more precise in my 

answers. I have been extremely forthcoming. I'm hear today to do my part in bringing 

these actions to light. I firmly believe that nothing improper occured." 

S.T.O.N.E.W.A.L.L.!!! 

Vyan 




Is 2-Minutes crying? 

He sounds like he is...like McQuire during the steriod hearings. 




Did This Guy 

just admit he lied to Congress last trip? WTF? 

Ok, why should we believe anything else you say today? 





Grovel time !! 

Nail the winger to the wall!!! 

"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it." - Abe Lincoln 

by munky on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:55:05 AM EDT 


What a scumbag. Dragging VTech into this (4+ / 0-) 

And acting as if he's being brought in to talk about things other than the firings. 

Another Bush class act 

(1+ / 0-) 

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(0 / 0) 


04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Obama? '08? Oh yea! 

by Skulnick on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:55:06 AM EDT 


Remember to unRec past threads! n/t 




Abu believes nothing improper occurred 

bcoz the att'y serve at the pleasure of the president. 




sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads 

I don't know why, but this guy Gonales is less articulate than Dr. Evil. 




Abu isn't thinking of... 

stepping down. 

(1+ / 0-) 

1. Accepts full responsibility for the shoddy treatment of the attorneys who were 

fired. 

2. Accepts full responsibility for misstatements, but believes in truth and has 

been extremely forthcoming to bring facts forward 

3. Process was flawed, but nothing improper was done. 



Gonzo: Replacing a USA for the hellof it is OK 




Shortened version of Gonzo's statement 

(2+ / 0-) 

"I'm sorry I got caught and to the 8 USAtty's - please don't sue me - you guys are 

great lawyers. Really. Can I go home now?" 



Sessions did the expected toadying (0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

Gonzalez - would never remove a US Attorney for political gain (!) 


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In America, politics is big business. - J P Morgan 

by 4Freedom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:56:02 AM EDT 


Maybe not personally, but 

-8.38, -7.49 



3 brief points.... 




Peace. 

if told to do so by the Dick, Karl and George, he would, no doubt. 

Here we go... 

8 attorneys deserved better from abug G and DOJ 

Addresses attacks on credibiltiy...waaaa!!!!! I understand but this has been vewy vewy 

hard on me. 

Nobody but NOBODY has been more honest than me. 

Nothing improper has occurred...In a world where torture, suspension of habeas corpus 

and domestic spying has been allowed EVERYTHING is proper. I've reviewed documents 

given to Congress. 

Abu Gonzo: 8 fired attys deserved better 

Each a fine lawyer and dedicated professional..I apologize to them and their families 

BUT these attacks on my integrity have been very painful for me...my "mistatements" 

were my mistakes and I accept full responsibility for them... 

Never sought to mislead anyone... 

Finally, while process was flawed, I believe nothing improper occurred...USAs serve at 

the pleasure of the President... 

I did not remove USAs for political reasons, that would be improper... 

Uhhh, okay, Alberto 

(3+ / 0-) 



AG: 3 brief points (4+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

1 . "Those eight deserve better" "each is a fine lawyer" "I regret how they were 

treated" "I accept full responsibility for this" 

2 . "These attacks on my integrity have been very painful to me" "Some of my 

statements generated confusion" "I've always sought the truth" "I have been 

extremely forthcoming with information" 

3 . "While the process was flawed, I firmly believe nothing improper occurred" 

"Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president" 

Claims that firing an attorney for political purposes would be wrong, and he nor anyone 

in the department did so. Shock! 

by Mardish on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:56:30 AM EDT 


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CSPAN ONE cutting away n/t 




i was in the next room and i was like 

whoa...who is THIS? I hope they go back to it. 




Gonzales 

these attacks on my integrity have been very painful to me 

i should have been more precise 

understand how it might have been confusing 

have always sought the truth in every aspect of my pers and prof life 

on the contrary, i have been extremely forthcoming with information 

i'm here today to do my part to make sure all facts brought to light 

while the process that led to the resignations was flawed, nothing improper 

they serve at the pleasure of the president 

it would be improper to remove a USA to influence political process 

i did not do that, i would never do that 

recogn my limited role in the process 

i have concluded that altho the process was nowhere as rigorous as it should have 

been... my decisions to ask for the resignations was justified and should stand 





Oh, how my heart bleeds for this fascist. nt 

New pithy saying nominees being considered. . . 

by BenGoshi on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:00:02 AM EDT 


Moving to C-Span 3 

Must be pornographic. 

by nolalily on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:57:09 AM EDT 


here. 

(6+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Part 2 is up now (3+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 


(1+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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New thread? 

Almost 300 comments in this one. 

"But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine 3300+ dead Americans. 

Bring them home. 

by Miss Blue on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:57:41 AM EDT 


Gonzo: 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

since we fight crime, replacing the USAs is OK 




ARGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH 

CSPAN leaving for the House????? 




such bullshit n/t 

by dukane on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:59:38 AM EDT 


Flip to C-SPAN3 




The Chiilldren n/t 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

C-SPAN is apparently required to cover live each of the House and Senate whenever the 

respective chamber is in actual session. But the Gonzales inquisition is carried live on C- 

SPAN3, which is probably in some high-numbered channel among the infomercials. 

(0 / 0) 




New thread up. (2+ / 0-) 

Live Blog #2: Gonzales Hearing 

(1+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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"We've done a great job 

shielding our children from predators". 

Umm... the Va Tech killer had been prosecuted for stalking and let go right? 



NEW THREAD IS OPEN 




Switching to CSPAN 3 

Judiciary committee page with streaming link 

http://judiciary.senate.gov/... 





Gonzales opening statement 

clears the whole matter up. Now let's move on and forget this whole unpleasantness. 

NOT! 

If there is no justice, what are kingdoms, but vast systems of robbery? - St. Augustine 

by nailmaker on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:58:39 AM EDT 


already contradicted himself 



exactly (1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

Gonzales just got done saying that he appologizes to the U.S. Attorneys who were fired 

because they were all "qualified" and were "treated unfairly". Then, he turns around 

and says that the firings were justified. 

Why would you fire someone who is qualified, say that they were "treated unfairly", 

appologize for it, then say it was justified? That doesn't make any sense at all. 

He's trying to have it both ways, and hoping no one will notice. What a disgusting liar. 






04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Kennedy 



* [new] You can be sure 

-8.38, -7.49 

(0 / 0) 

Kennedy's opening question was right on my point here. Maybe Kennedy's his staff is 

plagerizing my blog posts? :) 

This thread is up on laptops in that very room... 



You can see him lying 





Also HUGE bags under his eyes 

Let's get some Democracy for America 

by murphy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:05:53 AM EDT 


Still not acknowledgiing 2008 

by celdd on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:58:54 AM EDT 


CSPAN ends coverage 




Thanks n/t (1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Crossing arms and looking down is his tell apparently. 

and seems to have lost weight, or at least is a lot less puffy. 

He's focusing on the criminal investigation theory - ignores the probability of placing 

people in advance of the 2008 elections to prosecute Democrats running or "voter 

fraud" and dismiss Republican dirty tricks and voter suppression. 

(0+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

If, like me, you do not have CSPAN3, I recommend you link to Judiciary Committee 

hearings. 

by jenthor on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:04:32 AM EDT 



04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Appears to be a bad link 

Got server error. Or maybe it just got swamped. 

With all his noble qualities...man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his 

lowly origin--Darwin 

by MadScientist on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:06:25 AM EDT 


Also on C-SPAN Radio. 

That's where I'm hearing it. 

Katrina was America's Chernobyl. 

by lysias on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:07:15 AM EDT 


Or you can go to this link: 

CSPAN 3 Feed 

Peace takes real courage. 

by Disillusioned on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:09:42 AM EDT 


drinking game... 

1 drink for every "no recollection" "don't remember," "don't recall," or similar lie. 




I dont like to be stark raving drunk 

before noon. 

(1+ / 0-) 

"You don't lead by pointing and telling people some place to go. You lead by going to 

that place and making a case." - Ken Kesey 

by Glinda on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:05:21 AM EDT 


Domenici under the bus 




with an axel in his head 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Yglesias lost the confidence of Senator Domenici ? 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

by gaspare on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:08:20 AM EDT 


WOW, Leahy is Whippin that Gonzo Ass. (0 / 0) 


04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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I love open hearings that are hostile, the truth really comes out when people stammer 

and studder their answers. LOL. 

by MasterHurrikane on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:03:21 AM EDT 


CNN will cover soon 

after VT press conference 

by Pink Lady on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:03:46 AM EDT 


PLEASE UNRECOMMEND 

#2 is up - thanks! 




Stop saying "As I recall" 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

It's bugging the hell out of me. Give a straight answer. 

by phil333 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:05:49 AM EDT 


What's with this "I'll get back you" stuff ? 

This is IT Gonzo, make it or break it ! 




Gonzales explaining what a buffoon he is 

trys to bring in Fitzgerald, Leahy cuts him off 



Gonzo will not answer the question asked... 

as with whole BushCo admin...distract. 



Link to Gonzales Hearing Live Blog #2 (1+ / 0-) 

Live blog #2 is now up and running, superceding this thread. Please reconvene there, 

so we're "all on the same page". 


(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 




(1+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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Arlen Spector, Bustin that ass. I love it. 

Alberto is gonna have a long long morning. LOL 

by MasterHurrikane on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:10:14 AM EDT 


Specter: "I don't think you're win 

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who 

have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." 

by vawolf on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:11:34 AM EDT 


CNN LIVE NOW n/t 

"I'm not going to be your monkey", Jon Stewart 

by gabie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:11:02 AM EDT 


Specter sounds angry 

I am aware of the fact there are people who pay attention to what I do and say, but I 

try to avoid customizing my behavior for them. -Ian MacKaye 

by waitingforvizzini on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:12:42 AM EDT 


more fun than regular trials 



When are they going to start holding these 

17. Ne5 

a preparation debate, General." Ouch! 

(0 / 0) 

In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, 

Budapest, 1929 

by Spud1 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:16:07 AM EDT 


Why not? (1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

don't you think Gonzo "i prepare for every hearing" Spectre "do you prepare for your 

press conferences?" 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

These Senate hearings, particularly in front of the Judiciary Committee (where everyone 

is an attorney) are a lot more fun than regular court trials. In regular trials, all the 

argumentative, speculative, leading, and general ranting stuff would be shut off by the 

judge in a heartbeat. In these hearings, the Senators can pretty much do anything 

they want. The chair can shut them down if they get too out of line and other members 

can object, but for the mostpart, they can interlace their arguments and own 

speculations throughout the testimony. It is a lot more fun to listen to than actual 

court hearings, where it is just the facts in the questioning phase. 

(0 / 0) 

hearings in the evening? I just can't play the "I Don't Recall" drinking game this early. 


04/19/2007 01:46 PM 

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He shit on me, then slapped me for stinking! 

by Arkydem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:19:29 AM EDT 


My wife gives me a hard time if I have my martini 

even 10 minutes before 5:00 p.m. - there isn't any way she is going to approve of me 

drinking now. 

17. Ne5 





Link to Gonzales Hearing Live Blog #2 



(Reposted for those who haven't noticed yet.) 




O.K. I like to keep record.. 

NEW INTERNATIONAL TIMES For people. ePLURIBUS MEDIA For excellence. 

by Welshman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:20:06 AM EDT 


What!!!!!????? (0 / 0) 

(0+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

...of how the early play forecasts the end result of the game. 

In baseball (yes, and in cricket) you can get a feel of it how it might go but there can 

be big surprises down the line. 

Well, this game has only just started. Already, we can see it is no contest. There will be 

no surprises. 

We are watching the demise of a sad, failed man. He has become a caricature of the 

what he threatened to be on the first day of his appointment. 

The only question is to what extent he will anger the senators. 

Because this is the Department of Justice of the United States of America, because this 

man guided much of the moral standing of the administration in its actions for dealing 

with individuals at home and even, through advice, the response to issues to the people 

of other nations overseas, this is one of the saddest and sickest days that I have seen 

since I watched those Nixon days. 

And I fear that there are sadder and sicker days to come with others in high office of 

State. 

How they hell can you fire someone as high ranking as a U.S. Attorney and not ever 

talk to them or anyone from their staff before the firing? That is fucking crazy! It isn't 

like these people are some low level assistant or a clerical staff member. These are 

some of the highest ranking lawyers in the country. That is completely incompetent 

management! 



(0 / 0) 

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by PanzerMensch on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:57:17 AM EDT 


Thanks donnamarie 





You're Welcome, My Pleasure n/t 





Gonzo vowing to tell the truth. 

What a refreshing change. 


Heschel 



the first lie 

that's all that is 




Ah, so he's perjured himself already (n/t) 

Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one 

that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush! 

by brainwave on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:00:33 AM EDT 


n/f 

Starting when? 

(3+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 

(22+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 

(19+ / 0-) 



Abu's lips are moving so he is lying (17+ / 0-) 



(27+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 


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Unrec Part 1, Rec Part 2 

so we can minimize the number of live blog diaries on the rec list. 





not much 

Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil 

by Magorn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:20:39 AM EDT 


Breaking! 




how is that a morph? n/t 

fact does not require fiction for balance 

by mollyd on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:03:11 AM EDT 


good point 




Suggestion 

(2+ / 0-) 

Except a thunderous opening Statement and question round by Leahy; a suprising 

supporting Aria by Spector,( who is currently showing off his prosecutor chops and is 

literally cross-examining Gonazalez,) a patheric attempt to Play "loyal bushie" by dead 

ender Graham.... 

and now Teddy Kennedy takes center stage 

(18+ / 0-) 

Gonzales morphs into a pile of cow manure right on Senate floor! 

(5+ / 0-) 

* 3311 * http://icasualties.org/oif/ 

by BDA in VA on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:57:35 AM EDT 


also (4+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 


(5+ / 0-) 

(18+ / 0-) 

Should you put the link up into the first thread? 

helps if author of fiest thread can add [Unrecommend] to title of old thread. 


04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Darlin' 



YESSSSSS!!!! n/t 





I'm trying to change the title! 



It's there at the very top n/t 





THANKS 

It's still showing up on the home page with the old title, although the new title is 

showing when you click on the diary itself. 

This is driving my nuts! I keep trying over and over to to it, and its not taking the edit 

to the home page listing. 

Sorry. 

You too are a peach! 



Leahy asking 

about conversation with Rove -- I don't remember when it took place. Oy. 





senior management made him do it (3+ / 0-) 

Gonzo responding to Leahy's question about when and how AG lost confidence in David 

Iglesias. 

Gonzo relied on consensus opinion of others. Says he wasn't surprised that others had 

reached conclusion that Iglesias should resign since he had been hearing complaints 

about Iglesias. 

Next questions re Absentee landlord rationale. 

Absentee landlord rationale was not in Gonzo's mind - or so he says. 

```` 

(3+ / 0-) 

(30+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

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(4+ / 0-) 


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peace 




That was lovely question no? 

Direct, to the point, and with no lwiggle room...and one that rips the "performance 

reasons" ratuionale into tiny little pieces. 




He already doesn't recall! 

This is going to be a long day. 




CSPAN-3 feed is getting lossy 

anyone else having problems with the feed freezing up, dropping out? 



yep n/t 

by riverlover on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:59:25 AM EDT 


Yep n/t 

(4+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 




Try the Real Audio 

(24+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(11+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

I too could not get CSpan. CNN is back "live" One of them is off (using delay). 

by Compost On The Weeds on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:09:51 AM EDT 


It's better at 10:24 a.m. n/t (0 / 0) 





04/19/2007 01:48 PM 


Candidates 


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not here 

Audio only, wma. 

by Politburo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:01:29 AM EDT 


the C_SPAN 3 real player audio is ok 

I found it to work well in the past - so that's what I selected today. 

``` 

peace 




not so good now 

just had some drops in audio 

``` 

peace 




yep 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

already loosing it .... they should take a hint .... add more power! 



Streams are at full power, Captain! 

I don't know how much more she can take! 


anonymity..." 



I Got A Message From Another Link 

(0 / 0) 

(12+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Real Player. Server alert. Server has reached its capacity and can serve no more 

streams. Please try again later. 

by MO Blue on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:17:16 AM EDT 


Good to hear of the interest out there. n/t (1+ / 0-) 




04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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skip to C-span radio 

don't really need the video, the audio is highly entertaining too 




Cripes! 

The beginning of the I don't recalls! Geezez 

Bush is a virus and Rove is his secondary bacterial infection...whether individually or 

together both are equally deadly to the concept of truth 

by Its any one guess on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 09:59:07 AM EDT 


The first "i don't remember" 

Don't know where convo with Rove about Igalsius took place or whether it was phone 

or in person 




Oooh. 

Man is he testy! 

(16+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 



I'd say defensive 

but not yet testy. He hasn't yet hit arrogance. He pauses, falters. 




He's getting the Condi quaver. 

The Land of the Safe is the Home of the Slave. 

Justice Holmes: "When you strike at a King, you must kill him." 

by khereva on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:23:34 AM EDT 


First question,,,, (11+ / 0-) 

and he doesn't recall. LOL! 

(0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(13+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 






04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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No recollection 





And as leahy pointed out 




Well how hard was that 




He's a lying sack. 

(14+ / 0-) 

of when Iglesias was added to list. Not my fault -- someone else did it. I heard 

concerns from Domenici and Rove! 

Gonzales personally and strongly defended Iglesias to Domenici the first time he 

complained about him. 

What really coming out in the wash here is that Gonzo was a puppet AG and DOJ was 

run by "loyal bushies" at the WH under Rove. Which fits perfetly the pattern of a bunch 

of other cabinet departments complaining of the exact same thing. Many Cabinet sec 

have said privately that they feel like they are figureheads getting their marching orders 

from the WH departments. 

I remember that he was added to the list between the dates that we've released emails 

showing when he was off the list and then on the list is basically what he said 

(6+ / 0-) 




i just posted the same exact 

(0 / 0) 

(5+ / 0-) 

"Concerns" 

He wasn't involved! Just a innocent baby! 

(5+ / 0-) 

quote without having read yours! sorry about that, you get the "first" prize for saying 

Gonzo is a lying sack, but I did add "shit" 

The president of the United States actually has to be able to walk and chew gum at the 

same time. John Edwards 

by Sargent Pepper on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:03:00 AM EDT 


I'm trying to be polite. ;-) (4+ / 0-) 

It's barely 7 in the morning here. I'm pretty sure that I'll be swearing up a storm before 

the end of the day. 

lol 


04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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If you're playing the "I don't recall" 

drinking game, you might as well just start chugging straight from the bottle! Looks like 

he's going to include "to the best of my recollection" or "I don't recall" in every single 

answer... 




I was not responsible! PFFT! N/T 





SODDI defense 

Some Other Dude Did It. 

Join me on Zaadz.com and help change the world...really! -6.25 -5.69 

by Heiuan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:12:37 AM EDT 


Anyone else having trouble getting 

live streaming from C-Span3? Oops, here we go. Just in time to hear Gonzo say "I 

don't recall." 




Yes 

I gave up 

(1+ / 0-) 

The death penalty is not only a form of vengeance, but also a cowardly act by humans. 

Angel Diaz 

by mango on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:06:00 AM EDT 


I can't get on at all 

(9+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 




NPR home page (1+ / 0-) 

(15+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

you can link to streaming audio - NPR is once again the best network out there - TV 


04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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networks are showing morning fluff, CNN is about five minutes behind... 

NPR has no interruptions, either. 

oxymorons: "corporate citizen", "President Bush"... OXI-moron: Rush Limbaugh 

by kamarvt on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:25:09 AM EDT 


Gonzo is already flipping out 




On Rove, Doesn't Know When, How, Or Where 

he talked to him. Liar! Liar! Liar! 



Man, he sounds.... scared 

and GUILTY. I can hear the sweat pooling on his forehead. 

by johnnyNYC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:00:41 AM EDT 


And the stuttering starts. 

This is going to get ugly really fast. 





What a little weasel. He just gave up 

Domenici. Anyone but Rove, I guess. 

(11+ / 0-) 

(17+ / 0-) 

(15+ / 0-) 



I predict at least 56 I don't remember! n/t 

The only way out of Iraq is OUT. Case closed. GTFO ASAP! 

by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:01:06 AM EDT 


Better add a zero to that. (9+ / 0-) 

(19+ / 0-) 

You're way low, we're gonna hit 56 in the first 15 minutes. 






(8+ / 0-) 

(11+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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OK, plus 156 I don't recall! n/t 




Gonzales 

i have no recoll of knowing why that occurred 

was not surprised that iglesias was rec to me because I had heard of concerns 

heard concerns from sen domenici... heard concerns from mr rove 

was a mtg in october with the pres where pres relayed to me concerns about pursuing 

election fraud 

appears that mtg occurred on oct 11 





Who wanted Iglesias gone 

Rove 

Domenici 

President 



anyone keeping track of the "I don't recalls?" 

John Edwards - the repugs worst nightmare!! 

by Da Rock on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:01:21 AM EDT 


He's already shook. 




haha 

(11+ / 0-) 

Not political firings, my ass 

Buy stock in bottled water everybody, cause Gonzales is about to make those 

companies rich! 

(1+ / 0-) 

Coca Cola or Pepsi Co? 

by TheSilence on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:03:08 AM EDT 


They'll have (0 / 0) 

(10+ / 0-) 

(14+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

to catheterize him or he'll spend the whole session going to the john. 


(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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For the love of God. . . 

The party of Diebold and Katherine Harris is "concerned" about voter fraud. 

He's been speaking for two minutes, and I already want to throw up. 

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time. -- Brian Fantana 

by IndyScott on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM EDT 


that's not voter fraud 

that's ELECTION fraud 




Righty-oh! 

"Voter fraud" is rightwing code for "Stop those Democrats from voting by convincing 

them they're not entitled to vote or putting as many obstacles in their way as possible." 

Election fraud is what they do when the above fails and Democratic votes are actually 

cast. 

-8.38, -7.49 



Gonzo is a lying sack of shit 

Bush sacrificing him, trying to make the Senators look mean, but Gonzo is gone-zo. 





Leahy on Sampson: (26+ / 0-) 

said you spoke w/Rove about Iglesias--when did you talk with Rove? How many 

conversations with Rove about New Mexico? 

AG: One conversation in September 2006, but I don't recall much about it... 

PL: When was Iglesias added to the list? 

AG: I don't recall 

(0 / 0) 

(25+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

PL: Was it before or after the elections? 

(10+ / 0-) 

AG: It was either before or after the elections, I don't recall 

Abu is really squirming and Leahy is just cutting him off when he dives into his BS. 

Love that Leahy! Don't mess with an Irishman who wants the truth! 


04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Peace. 



Oh 

by Nina Katarina on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:05:03 AM EDT 


Wow its gonna be a long day for Fredo 



Not answering the question! 




exactly 

(8+ / 0-) 

So he's ruled out 'during the elections'. What a daring truth-teller. 

He's stumbling and searching for his rehearsed answers. Any Leahy is pretty tame. 

He didn't ask when he lost the confidence of Dominici, he asked when he lost YOUR 

confidence 

(7+ / 0-) 

And Leahy is on it. 



wow I hear an echo 

Leahy just said the exact same thing 




what did he answer? 



go to NPR.org 

(21+ / 0-) 

(9+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

CSPAN-3.org just dropped out completely before AG could answer 

(0 / 0) 

(14+ / 0-) 




Abu listened to Peter Gabriel before the hearing (16+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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the chorus of Peter Gabriel's "I don't remember" 

I don't remember, I don't recall 

I got no memory of anything at all 

I don't remember, I don't recall 

I got no memory of anything 

-anything at all 




Specter's going to need a water break soon 

His cough is starting already 




For some excellent... 

speculation on who will replace Gonzo, try this diary After Gonzalez, the Deluge? 

w/poll by Land of Enchantment. 



And Leahy,,,, 

repeats his question 3 times now. Leahy is out for blood. 





Leahy is merely after the truth n/t 




First use of word "consensus" recommendation. 

We'll hear that alot. 




so (9+ / 0-) 

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He didn't QC any of these recommendations coming to him? WTF kind of supervisor is 

this guy? He fires people based on someone else's call? 


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Based on the recommendation... 

In other words I don't friggin know! I let others decide. What a weasel! 





Gonzalas is lying 

You want to know how I can know this... 

his lips are moving. 

by J Royale on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:04:12 AM EDT 


...his lips are moving. 

Actually, this is not a clue, since even if he were the best ventriloquist in the world, and 

his lips were sealed with hot glue, sewn shut and duct-taped, he'd still be lying! 

There's no way he could tell the truth without turning this from the Judicial Committee 

into a committee for the impeachment of the president. 

Hmmm... remember CREEP (the Committee for the Reelection of the President -- Nixon 

in that case)? What we need is a Committee Hoping for the Impeachment of the 

President -- CHIMP, I read that as. Let this be the day for the founding of this body. 

Testify, Abu, testify. The more you speak, the sooner your end comes. Can you all spell 

"enough rope?" I knew you could. 

Ed 

I do not belong to an organized political party -- I'm a Democrat. [Will Rogers] 

by Ed Drone on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:16 AM EDT 


Oh. 

Impeach Ment. 

Nice. 

-8.38, -7.49 

(0 / 0) 



Leahy (31+ / 0-) 

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L: when and why did he lose you confidence 

G: i recognize their service, courage to serve american people 

mr igl lost confidence of sen domenici in fall of 2005... did not have right personnel 

don't recall sen dom ever requesting that mr iglesias be removed 

L: with all due respect my question was when and why did he lose your confidence 

G: what i instructed mr samson to do... 

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L: when and why did he lose your confid 

A: there were issues and concerns about the perf of these indiv... that's when i lost 

confid 

[quotes from mar 21 oped in NYT iglesias] 





You're great at this joanneleon n/t 





Leahy is holding on like a dog with a bone 

with his question 

And Gonzo has taken lessons from Condi how to obfuscate 



That's what we want: a truth retriever! 




Can't get c-span.org 

at all. 

White screen. 

(4+ / 0-) 

Magic 95.5 (800)296-9267 Blogroll Dejado haya un loco y no dos. 

by kestrel9000 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:05:06 AM EDT 


oooh it just camme up for me 



this link working for me 

http://www.c-span.org/... 


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I think both NYT and WaPoare carying live streams (1+ / 0-) 


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I'm still watching on C-Span. 

Lost In Geekdom 

by fanaa on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:07:32 AM EDT 


"Absentee landlord" 

issue re: Iglesias and his Guard service. 





Not my job 

(7+ / 0-) 

Other folks think for me. 




That looks to be the approach he's taking. 

"Not my fault - I"m incompetant, not criminal". 





Iglesias lost Gonzo'z confidence 

when and why? Yeah Leahy! 

Gonzo accepted the recommendations on his performance. 

NYT Iglesias' quotes used 




Going after Mercer 

(9+ / 0-) 

"absentee landlord due to military service" 

G - we enforce that act (protecting those in military service - not reason I asked to 

leave) 

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who is from Montana and definitely absentee. 





For those who can't watch (32+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Leahy is doing the equivalent of those cop movies when they chase down the criminal 

and jack them up against the chain-linked fence to interrogate them. And Gonzales is 

doing his best not to squeal, "BigBoydidit." 




Thank you. That helped. Can't get coverage. 

Extremely frustrating. This was supposed to be like Christmas morning for me . . . 

"[W]e shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in 

the fields and in the streets . . . we shall never surrender[.]" 

by Miss Butter on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:15:36 AM EDT 


npr.org 




Thank you!!! nt 





Props for the Dick Tracy reference 

"This is America, not the damned Titanic. I'll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums 

out!" --- Lee Iacocca 

by droogie6655321 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:19:13 AM EDT 


Yeah! 

has streaming audio 

Hit 'em with the lights, Tracy! 

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I have to get back to you (8+ / 0-) 

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Leahy hammering on the "absentee landlord" defense for firing Iglesias who is in naval 

reserve. HAMMER! 

He doesn't even know how long his associate attorney general is in washington? 





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Incompetent!! Should be fired --Bush!!!!!! 




Getting Abu to use 

The term "rationale". Excellent Senator. Because there was no reason for firing these 

people, just plenty of rationales. 




rofl 

(9+ / 0-) 

Trying to bring up Fitz! Hilarious!!! 



Fredo is dumb as a box of rocks 

no offense to the rocks 




Abu is looking in his mind for a good lie 

and trying to obfuscate. 




Why isn't CSPAN TV broadcasting this?? 




thems the rules 

(3+ / 0-) 

Most important thing going on and they decide to do it on internet?? 

(9+ / 0-) 

House is in session, C-SPAN must cover the House. 



House shoulda took a vacation day (0 / 0) 

so this can get to everyone... 

The repugs woulda done that.... 

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Does that mean they'll try to stop it, 

like last time? 




try to get NPR 

on radio -- I'm having clear, uninterupted feed. 





Here on the West Coast, NPR doesn't start till 

. . . 9:00 a.m. PDT, at least where I am. Deeply frustrating. I got up early for this. 





You just saved my sanity! 

I have a ton of work to do and can't read, but this is perfect. 

"...and it's here the lonely say that the heart has got to open in a fundamental way." -- 

Leonard Cohen, "Democracy" 

by maralenenok on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:40:33 AM EDT 


CNN 

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has it live right now (thankfully). 

by Reel Woman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:17:12 AM EDT 


Trying to bring up Fitzgerald! 

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Gonzo's going to crack before the end of the day. 

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add to list of ppl conservatives blame (3+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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1. Carter did it. 

2. Clinton did it. 

3. Pelosi did it. 

4. Fitz did it. 




It's always about the blame. 

Never accept responsibility. 

The Republican credo. 




GOP: the party of someone else's responsibility. 

GOP: whiners, liars, children. 

BG 

__________________________________________________ 




How did you lose faith in Iglesias 

I trusted the staff. 

Staff said absentee landlord- violation against firing Military reserve. 

But I would never violate it. 

OOPS you did, Gonzo!!! 



Pat Fitzgerald?!!!!? 

(9+ / 0-) 

Waaaa, waaa, a lot of whining going on 



looks like his defense is that 

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"we didn't fire Fitzgerald, therefore that proves we didn't fire people for political 

reasons" 




Just had to throw him in to look up to speed (0 / 0) 


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A bit off the point, of course. Talk about failed coaching! 



Specter is up next... 




"the main point I want the American ppl... 

...to understand" This testimony has nothing to do with Congress' role; Gonzales could 

care less. He's trying to change his opinion with the public. 

Good luck with that. 




Trying to throw Fitz under the bus 

Watch out Abu you couldn't fill Pat's socks never mind his shoes. 



the pitch of his voice is rising 

he's afraid ..... 




Wow 

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He and his henchmen thought "transparency in the DOJ" was important? 

I don't hate Hillary. I'm just not gonna vote for her.--"existenz" 

by PerfectStormer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:08:09 AM EDT 


Leahey fall out of his chair over that one? nt 




How often is Mercer out? (17+ / 0-) 

AG: I don't know, I'll have to get back to you... 

PL: Well, what, a week? A year? 

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AG: I don't know, but I want the American people to know about Pat Fitzgerald... 


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Leahy cuts him off: "We're not talking about Pat Fitzgerald! I want to know about your 

associate Mercer!" 

Peace. 



Leahy 

(20+ / 0-) 

L: when did this absentee landlord rational arise 

G: it would not be a reason that i would ask a USA to leave, i support it, i applaud it 

L: how many days a year does mr mercer stand as acting assoc AG 

G: that's a question i would have to get back to you 

L: is it a week or year, month a year? he's your assoc AG 

G: sen i would like to give you that info... every case is different. i've heard noone 

complain about patrick fitzgeral 

L: mr mercer testif he's in montana just three days a month... sometimes absentee 

landlords are created by your own office 

G: in my travels i raised this issue... heard no problems... every case is diff, may 

depend on strenght of first assistant... 

L: i'd be pretty upset that asst AG only there 3 days a month 





Haven't we already learned that no NM 

federal judges complained about Iglesias's absences? 




Abu sucking up now 




Specter, stop lying! 

by dgone36 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:08:54 AM EDT 


heh (5+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

" And your views would be very important" to Senator Leahy. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Sounds like Gonzo gonna have to wait until Hatch to get a sympathetic question.. 




04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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OH SNAP!!!!!! (n/t) 



Spectar 

calling "Bullshit" on Gonzo 



I prepare for every hearing senator 

We've hit testy! 





Spector 

(10+ / 0-) 

Do you prepare for your Press Conferences? Were you prepared when you said at a PC 

that you hadn't had any discussions about these events? Ha! 





Snotty! n/t 




"not exactly a matter of precision" 

Specter is saying A.G. lied. 

"Were you prepared?" 

(6+ / 0-) 

Blue Jersey: New Jersey Progressive Politics 

by John DE on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:09:34 AM EDT 


Gonzo is even getting snippy at Specter 

and Specter snaps back. 

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It is so over for Gonzo when Specter says (9+ / 0-) 

it is a matter of being candidand Specter sounds so sad. 


04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Specter !!!! 



wow....getting my ass kicked is so much fun 



Ok, what's up with Spectre? Did he stay off the 

kool-aid for a day or so. Cheney will probably give him a kool-aid infusion during 

lunch. 




He's probably still pissed 

They slipped that Patriot Act clause into law with his handwriting on it, so he's probably 

still steamed over that. 



Yeah right 

Like he didn't LET that happen. 

by frogmarchbush on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:40:36 AM EDT 


n/t 

I'm not convinced he didn't let it happen either 

Every day .... will be a "Constitutional crisis" given we have a president who doesn't 

give a damn about the Constitution. Kos 

by billlaurelMD on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:45:29 AM EDT 


even spector is up his ass 

by etorrey on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:09:38 AM EDT 


Specter getting HOT!!! 

(0 / 0) 

"pattern of not being candid" ...damn 

(0 / 0) 

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Arlen smacking him hard! (9+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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He sounds like he is about to cry. 



CNN is now covering 



Gonzo just lost Specter. 

What an asshole! He really stepped in it. 

Waste more of your day at The Next Hurrah. 

by Kagro X on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:09:54 AM EDT 


Spector is pissed!!!! 




Oooooh 

(9+ / 0-) 

Specter -- you prepare for your hearings -- did you prepare for your press conferences 

when you said you weren't involved in deliberations. Go Specter. You won't win a 

debate on your preparation. 





Specter is NOT happy with the Little Shit ! 

Specter is fucking badgering the witness ! 




Ohhh, Specter is nailing him. 

This is a bit unexpected. 



hmm, (1+ / 0-) 

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this is different. I thought Spectre would soft peddle. He msut know that people isn't 

watching TV right now. too busy with the shooting. 

by fugue on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:26:05 AM EDT 



04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Gonzo has lost Specter; Specter is pissed!!!! 



Spector redeems self for Anita Hill debacle. nt 





Spector,,,, 

is hammering harder than I expected. 





Much as I dislike Snarlin' Arlen 

He's good at it. 

(1+ / 0-) 

"Republicans are poor losers and worse winners." - My grandmother, sometime in the 

early 1960s 

by escapee on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:10:15 AM EDT 


Spector "I'd like you to win this debate" n/t 




And GONZO getting snippy 

I SAID I PREPARE!!! Waaaah. 



Snippy, haughty, 

condescending, disrespectful, defensive. Not very believable, Abu. 



cramming session (0 / 0) 

all that cramming session. 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Spector is laying the smack down now 

Abu is getting curb stomp by an (R). 



Wait! Even Specter's getting feisty! 

Gonzo's quite cocky. 

Never mind. "I'd like you win this debate." 

Specter back to toolhood. 




Spectre's MO is to talk tough and then cave 

it happens every single time 




But will he have time to cave before Abu does? 

by rachelmap on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:18:31 AM EDT 


whoa..... 

The man has a spine of jello, after all. 

He just pissed Specter off! 

Lisa 

I take the bible seriously, but not literally. 

by Boston to Salem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:10:20 AM EDT 


Specter on the case 




Hahaha .. Specter let's loose. (4+ / 0-) 


(2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

do you prepare for your press conferences? 

(5+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

Were you prepared for your press conference where you lied like the lying liar you are? 




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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Woo Hoo 

Specter is getting pissed. He's yelling now, asking Abu whether he prepares for his 

press conferences. He's apparently, and finally, angry with the lies. 




Not about the lies 

I don't think. He got mad a Gonzo's snarky answer to his question. 

Lisa 




Specter: I don't think you're going to win 

a debate about your preparedness. 




O Specter. O look at this. Hey Arlen, kick his 

ass. It might keep the heat down a bit when you show up in hell. 




haha 

"I don't think you're going to win a debate" 




Mispoke at the Press Conference? 

Lie is more like it. 

(4+ / 0-) 

So far, Arlen's doing a good job. 



Well (0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(13+ / 0-) 

so Abu also "misspoke" about lying. I'm not sure we'd expect any less... or more. 




(1+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Today should be a holiday 

for the whole country. Everyone should be able to watch this. 

Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan 

by Maggie Mae on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:10:37 AM EDT 


Everybody should be 

required to watch this; citizenship 101. 




It should, at least, be shown in schools. 

Oh, I forgot. Students don't have time for stuff like this, since they are busy studying 

for the NCLB test. 




specter: lying or incompetent 

Were you unprepared or lying when you "mispoke" 




CSPAN 3 is showing the hearing 



Specter is looking to extricate himself 

from rewriting the Patriot Act. 

It may be too late for Orrin Hatch 



Fitzgerald? (9+ / 0-) 

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(1+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

So, let me get this straight...Gonzo's response to questions about absentee landlords is 

to point a finger at Fitzgerald and say, "Well, he was investigating our people instead of 

doing his job." 

Good on Leahy for shutting that down before he could finish his sentence. 

by archieleach on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:10:56 AM EDT 



(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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What was Leahy's response to that? nt 





"I'd like you to win this debate but you are 

going to have to win it" Specter 

Specter knows Gonzo is done 



Arlen. . . 




Specter 

(1+ / 0-) 

Has finally hit his tipping point. 

(15+ / 0-) 

S: let me review some of the record with you, don't have much time.... know you are 

familiar with this, know you've been preparing 

G: i prepare for every hearing 

S: were you prepared for press conference [angrily] 

were you prepared when you said you weren't involved in any deliberations 

G: i've already said that i misspoke 

S: let's move on, i don't think you're going to win any argument about being prepared. 

i'd like you to win this debate 





Spector...slip....I want to feed you... 

giving him defense. 



Feeding him all of the key issues (1+ / 0-) 

so the Dems can't surprise him? 


(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Specter's pissed 

Gonzo is a fucking idiot. 

BlueNC.com 

by Anglico on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:11:36 AM EDT 


Gonzales explaining what a buffoon he is 



Specter's MO.. 



Will watch out 



but he has added incentive here 




He provides cover for the GOP 




asdf (0 / 0) 

(3+ / 0-) 

Gonzales whining that he prepares for press conferences, he should just quit now 

(10+ / 0-) 

Is to play tough and them givem a big wet kiss at the end... That's what he did with 

Habeas... Don't trust this lying SOB 

thanks for the heads up. 

(1+ / 0-) 

to cya given that his aide added the Patriot Act provision allowing the AG interim 

appointments without senate confirmation. 

"Even the Republicans were tough on Gonzales. Look how hard Sen. Specter was on 

him." That'll be the line of the talking heads. 

I feel like the streaming I am getting is behind what you guys are saying. Which site is 

the best to get the hearings? 


(0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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LINK 

Wash Post is pretty good 

That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, 

but the sound of a bat on a ball. ~Bill Veeck 

by MikeBaseball on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:14:35 AM EDT 


Specter 

(0 / 0) 

I'd like you to win this debate, but you're going to have to win it. (approximate quote) 

Sounds like he's not going to go easy... 

Except he just slipped and said I want to feed you...I mean I want you to understand. 

Oops. 




Arlen says Abu not being candid... 

asks... rather pointedly... Were you prepared for your press conference when you 

misspoke? ...When you said that you weren't involved in any deliberations? doesn't 

think Abu will win any debate on his preparation since his statements were 

contradictory. 



That exchange.... 

sounded a little canned. 

only the dissatisfied can make change 

by pharoah on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:13:44 AM EDT 


But..but..but--He Has No Recollection of that n/t 

by kurious on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:16:49 AM EDT 


Arlen Specter 

showing NO QUARTER!! 

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(2+ / 0-) 

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(2+ / 0-) 

Combative. Wonderful to see from a Republican. 

Said, "I want you to win this debate, but YOU'RE going to have to win it!!" 




Specter's disdain is LARGE n/t (2+ / 0-) 



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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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The worm squirms! 



As the aspens turn! IT Rhymes! 




Don't forget 

to Unrecommend the first diary please!! It's still at the top of the Rec list. Thanks. :) 





C-SPAN keeps crashing my browser. 

switching to a new link. 


anonymity..." 



dang 


anonymity..." 



Plus.... 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

only able to pull audio now. 

(0 / 0) 

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(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

CSPAN's feed is 10 seconds delayed from CNN tv coverage. Oh well. 

by pharoah on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:16:52 AM EDT 


Yep. It needs to buffer when streamed. 



CNN CURRENTLY SHOWING THE HEARING (7+ / 0-) 

Also, I can't get the diary title to change on the front page. It has changed when you 


(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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click on the diary, but doesn't carry over to the front page. 

Please unrecommend diary #1 if you haven't already done so. Thanks. 



That may be because #1 is on the rec list still 

and the code's been changed to not permit authors to change titles of rec-listed diaries. 

Once it drops off, I'll be you can change it. 


Jazz Cooking 



Um, no - I was wrong - title's changed 

I should have made it clear that "the code's been changed" is my speculation, not hard 

knowledge. 


Jazz Cooking 



It changed n/t 

-5.13, -6.31 

by MKinTN on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:15:45 AM EDT 


I had a hard time with that before, too n/t 





CNN 

They show it when Specter is on? The time when you can expect Abu to be getting 

lightweight questions? 

Typical. 

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Spector: just answer the question (2+ / 0-) 





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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Specter 

is it a fair assessment to say you only had limited involvement when here's all your 

underlings saying you were involved. Were you involved only to a limited sense? Yes, 

sir. 





Spector... 

I just want you to answer the question. 



This guy is an EEL 

Slippery, slimy and hard to hold onto. 


early 1960s 



But at same time 

comes across as not too bright. 




ROFL 

 

(4+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

You ever meet an eel at MIT? 


early 1960s 



(18+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

G: "Senator, I don't want to quarrel with you." 

S: "I don't want you to either. I just want you to answer the question." 




Yep - used that one (5+ / 0-) 

with teenagers. I think it worked better with them than Gonzo. 

The truth always matters. 

(2+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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by texasmom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:15:25 AM EDT 


asdf 

This guy should not be AG - he is a moron. 




n/t 

Being a Moron is Requirement for job in BushCo 



Specter has shifted down 




Gonzales 

(5+ / 0-) 

We are in for a bit of a ride. He's practically spitting out the facts, reminding Abu of 

"just part of the picture" regarding testimony as to what Abu said and did. Abu: "Sir, I 

don't want to quarrel with you." Whoa, Abu is deep into it now. Go Specter! 

(8+ / 0-) 

is crashing and burning 

(4+ / 0-) 

how fucking beautiful is this!??!?!!? 




FYI-MSNBC web video works well still 

I can't even get the C-Span page to load quickly. Let's all email them and demand it be 

put on CSPAN1 

Anyway, here's the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/... 

There is a sentence right on top to click on. 

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. ML 

King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963. 

by bewert on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:14:19 AM EDT 


Don't even let Abu by a butter knife at lunch (3+ / 0-) 

He sounds as if he is going to have a breakdown. 

(2+ / 0-) 




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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Is it just me 

(9+ / 0-) 

or does Spector seem pissed off that Gonzo can't even lie properly? 





Well he can't be happy 

about Gonzo getting snippy with him either, and right off the bat too. 




Gonzo's an idiot 

Why didn't they practice: 

Repeat after me: 

BE NICE TO THE GOP SENATORS! 

I can't wait for Schumer! 


Heschel 



Yes, that's exactly why Spectre is pissed 

I wouldn't be shocked if there's a GOP memo on a private server that we don't know 

about yet that has today's hearing script laid out for Abu and the GOP Senators. 

Spectre is the Director and Abu is the primadonna actor who's flubbing his lines. 




Gonzo: My involvement was limited 

despite everyone else saying otherwise 

(3+ / 0-) 

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Here Comes The Chewbacca Defense! 

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There Spectre goes, offering cover for Abu (6+ / 0-) 


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by feeding Gonzo his testimony in the form of leading questions. 

Spectre is pissed that Gonzo didn't study the GOP script as hard as Spectre did. 




Specter - I justwant you to answer the question 

because of Gonzo saying "I don''t want to quarrel with you" 

See, questions are really quarrels to these people ;now I get it. Cannot question, me 

bad 



Spector is acting...not pissed ...asking tough 

so Dems can't have the thunder. 

He is setting up defense for Gonzo 



I think part of the "act" 

is firing off ten questions within a question. Abu then gets to pick which one to try to 

answer... remains to be seen whether Specter will re-ask the remaining 9 questions, or 

Abu gets a pass. 





Abu literally choking 

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Gonzo can't recall talking to his 




what responsibilities? (3+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

at Specter's questions about whether he was involved in the "process" 

he sounds like a bad boy in the principal's office. incredibly weak. I think it's not out of 

the question for us to see tears pretty soon. 

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own staff. But sure enough knows when he spoke to the press. 

You just said you outsourced the firings.. what responsibilities? 


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Alberto keeps trying to fit his answers 

into their questions. So far his answers don't fit their questions, he is trying to force it. 



I've been gone for 5 minutes... 

and Gonzo already sounds as if he needs a wedgie-dectomy. And this is with Specter. 

Oy! 




Abu: Based on what 

I understood about what I thought was going on. Huh?? What utter crap. I'm not sure 

he understands how dangerous Specter is right now. He doesn't recall, he does recall, 

he doesn't recall. 




It was just Mr Sampson's little project 

Weren't you INVOLVED? 




Supervisors? 

He can't participate in a review process because he's a supervisor? 

Huh? 

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CNN airing testimony live 

(7+ / 0-) 

What does he think supervisors do? 

(4+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

with no commentary, at least for the last few minutes. I hope they keep it up, because 

the MSNBC link is tiny and it's fun to see their facial contortions :D 



CSPAN is streaming it. n/t (0 / 0) 

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of-f-f-f-f-fa 

his cracking...boohoo 



sampson meet bus... 

by volballplr on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:16:08 AM EDT 


Specter's Not Going Down With Gonzales 

Cutting his loses, focussing on the perjury angle. 



he's about to cry! 

I am not kidding!!! 

and this is under questions from a Republican! 




I now understand that there 

was a discussion between myself and the president. 




"mr. Sampson's Project" 

What a dick... Blame the next guy down... Guess he's learning that. 

Loyalty, like money, flows up for Republicans. 



oh, this is almost painful to watch (22+ / 0-) 

Almost. 

Okay, no, it's not. 

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(2+ / 0-) 

"I now understand that there was a conversation between myself and the president"??? 

? Are you effing kidding me? 




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asdf 




Oh, Ricky 



"I now understand 





He didn't already know that he could talk about 




Gonzo 

(4+ / 0-) 

I agree! It is like watching an I Love Lucy episode. You are squirming watching the 

train wreck, but can't help but watch. 

Panel: You've got some 'splainin' to do. 

Gonzo: WAAAAAAAAAAA!!! 

I had a conversation with the President." What???? He didn't already know that? 

the conversation, until somebody else leaked the fact that it had occurred. 

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It's simple ABU... 

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has no recollection about anything...what a tool. 

(4+ / 0-) 

weren't you involved...YES or NO! Geezez, evasive worm. 





They need to press him for specifics (1+ / 0-) 

on the "process" -- what exactly did you DO?? Specifically. Exactly. I hope a Dem 

pushes him on this -- kind of like they did with Sampson and keeping his "file" in the 


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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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drawer. 





"I now understand there was a conversation 

between me and the President." 

He now understands? 

He's not sure he spoke to the President? 




He has to say that. 

He denied it on NBC in March but then Sampson said Gonzales had told him about 

talking to the President last year. 

Gonzales told Sampson three weeks before Gonzales's NBC interview. 

So you have to believe that Gonzales talked to the President in October, told Sampson 

about it in MArch, and then forgot about it later in March, on NBC. 





Shrub 



Or else Gonzo doesn't know who the President is. 

by rachelmap on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:26:41 AM EDT 


Specter... 

(1+ / 0-) 

Shrub musta been speaking that Spanglish again, and Gonzo didn't understand it at the 

time. 

...come to think of it, what WAS that thing on W's back during the debates? 

(2+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

I now understand there was a conversation between me and Bush. Holy Shit! What a 

fucking creep!!!! 




Goodling – “I Have The Charts The (2+ / 0-) 

Attorney General asked for." Liar! Liar! Liar! 


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(3+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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who's up after specter? 



Gonzo went to the Libby School 

of selective forgetfulness. 

Rove isn't able to pull his strings very well when he's under oath and testifying. A 

slight problem in the Rovian Scheme to take over the world. 





"I now understand there was a conversation." WTF? 

He doesn't know???? 




Jeez Louise, if he's getting this from a Rethug 

what fun he has to look forward to! 


early 1960s 



I understand there was a conversation with... 

...the President. 

He understands that...??? WTF 



If Abu can survive this I will be stunned 

It is so obvious that he is lying and doesn't even recall his lies from moment to 

moment. 




Fredo has THOUSANDS of conversations (1+ / 0-) 

over almost 700 days. 

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Specter: If you were involved 




Did Goodling get Immunity? 





The out off the vote until next week. n/t 




Put off the vote, you mean. 




darn my speedy fingers. thanks. 




no (2+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

in all of these discussions and decisions, how can that be considered to be involved to 

only a "limited extent" 

(1+ / 0-) 

i understood your typo 

(2+ / 0-) 

Please excuse the nit, but it's possible some people might not understand your typo. 

(1+ / 0-) 

but i also say "blue hammer" instead of "red hammer" 





I think that was House side, though (could be wrong) 




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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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thanks 





Not yet. 




yeah, did she? 




Rove and Bush now mentioned 



Peace. 

They delayed the decision on that for now. 

enquiring minds want to know :) 

Lisa 

He has now opened the door I am now looking forward to Sen. Whitehouse's questions 

- he was awesome at prior hearing 

AG to Specter: I had knowledge there was 

a process going on... 

based on what I thought, my involvement was limited...I believed Sampson would bring 

back recommendations to me... 

Specter: were you involved in reviewing removal of Lam? Of Cummins? Of Iglesias? 

Don't recall, don't recall, don't recall 

Specter is pissed at Abu now, calling him out, questioning whether AG is being "candid" 

or "forthright" 



Liar (3+ / 0-) 

Specter: You were involved in decision to remove: 

Lam 

Iglesias 

Cummins 

Gonzales: 

Yes 

Yes 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Yes, but I have no recollection 

So what in the hell is your definition of limited? 

Are you candid, or a Liar? 



Arlen is killing 

him re: competency. 





God, this guys sounds like such a stooge 

Obama? '08? Oh yea! 

(8+ / 0-) 

How many times can you say "I don't remember" before you crack yourself? He sounds 

completely incompetent...but I guess it's better than lying under oath. 

by Skulnick on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:18:29 AM EDT 


"Alberto, you're the fall guy" 

Now buy the GOP some time. 



Some Repubs are calling for Gonzo resignation 



He's stammering n/t 




I only had limited involvement... 

Didn't consider all my activities getting rid of the USA as being part of the process...just 

part of my job. 

SPecter, doesn't understand. 

(2+ / 0-) 




He looks like he's a schoolkid trying to explain (2+ / 0-) 

a broken window to his school pricipal. 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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he's going to slip 

he knows it's his last day as ag 



TIME for No. 3 already .... 

pretty please. 



Here 

It's up 


Jazz Cooking 



here's a link to msnbc live coverage 

http://video.msn.com/... 

by bubbles on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:19:02 AM EDT 


Unrelated to the hearing, but... 

From Drudge, RE: McCain: 

Holy lord. 

(2+ / 0-) 

At the campaign rally, McCain was asked if an attack on Iran is in the 

works. 

McCain began his answer by changing the words to a popular Beach 

Boys song. 

"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran," he sang to the tune of Barbara 

Ann. 

by zachwalker on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:19:09 AM EDT 


OMG...Mc Cain has totally lost his mind 



Specter (9+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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AG: I directed Sampson ...with the senior officials; that he would bring back to me a 

consensus recommendation. Lam. There were other questions; I can't stop doing my 

other responsibilities. 

The dept. received numerous complaints (gun cases) on Lam. 

S: you were involved in reviewing Lam's record? 

AG: I didn't review as part of Sampson's project. 

S: nevermind Sampson's project; weren't you involved in the decision on the 

removal..of Cummings as Sampson testified 

AG: I have no recollection, but I (assume) that is true. 

S: you said you were involved - limited involvement in the process. We have to 

evaluate whether you are being forthright when the reality is that your 

characterization...is at varience(?) with the facts. 

AG: putting it in context, my involvement was limited. With respect to 

communications, with the president, Lam, I (don't look at it as part of the review 

process). 

S: you are saying it is not part of the process is not part of your job? 

AG: doesn't mean I wasn't doing my job...when I focused on the complaints, I wasn't 

focused on the review process itself, whether or not her name was on the list; was 

focused that she was doing her job. 



Here 

Part 3 is up 

Don't forget to unrec this diary and rec Part 3. 


Jazz Cooking 



Gone-zo had “thousands of conversations 

and his involvement was "limited." Okay! 



My involvement was limited! 

I wasn't focused on the review process, I was focused on how well she was doing her 

job! 

MORON. 

(5+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come. - Victor Hugo 

by racerx on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:19:35 AM EDT 


Kate Petersen? Ready for Part 3 n/t (0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 





04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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here 

It's up 


Jazz Cooking 



i wouldn't 

i wouldn't hire this dime store attorney general to handle my parking tickets 

Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that 

plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction.......... 

by pissedpatriot on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:19:36 AM EDT 


Kennedy up next, then Grassly 




The Democratic list 

is going to disembowel Gonzo. Kennedy, Feinstein and Feingold! Attack dogs! 




Specter is softening the attack already..... (5+ / 0-) 

s -did you tell mercer to take a look at lam's record with view to removing her as a usa 

g -the department had received several complaints 

I recall being very concerned 

s -but you were involved in reviewing her reco.......... 

s - weren't you involved in the evaluation in 

g -no recollection 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Rove & President consulted 

(0 / 0) 

s - you only had a limited involvement in the process 

Specter continuing to question g's integrety - saying testimony at variance with the 

facts 

g - had thousands of conversations at that time 0 says his involvement in decision 

limited 

did not view his involvement in this direct 

(0 / 0) 

s - not part of the process, part of your job? 

g - just because I was overlooking.....didn't mean I wasn't doing my job - when 

focusing on complaints I wasn't thinking of ...the review process or not....whether she 

would be on this (removal) list or not. 


04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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much wriggling going on already...... 




That's his job--he's a Repub first, oversight 

comes in a distant 2nd. 



good time to switch to next thread n/t 




Get him Ted! 



When I was wondering if it quacked like a duck... 

...I wasn't thinking about whether it was a duck or not. 



Dem's coming up, in order... 

Kennedy 

Kohl 

Feinstein 

Feingold 

Schumer 

Durbin 

Cardin 

Whitehouse 

Wyden 

(0 / 0) 



They've found Grassley... 

after he was abducted by aliens at the last hearing. 




Listening to list (1+ / 0-) 

of Democrats. He must be peeing. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 


(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Kennedy!!!!!!!!! 




ooooh, Kennedy's up!! 

Get ready for the outrage.... 

Lisa A:)) 




DAMN CNN! 


Heschel 



Problem is... 



Is CNN deliberately cutting back to talking heads 




Ted is up NT 





our Teddy is up 

(1+ / 0-) 

Went from the hearing to the talking heads wanting to "splain it" to us. 

Like we're too stupid to understand. 

That they are not to stupid to understand, so CNN has to spin it... 

when the Dems are on? 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 




Did Kennedy call him "General"?? - nt (0 / 0) 

I told you the dopes are going to inherit the earth anyway - Diz Moore 


(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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by Newspeak101 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:20:44 AM EDT 


Yes 

All is normal, 

He is the Atty General,,, aka as General 

Carry on... 

...we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret 

oaths, and to secret proceedings- John F. Kennedy 

by RF on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:22:10 AM EDT 


Listening to Abu 

is like opening a big view window on the thought processes of this entire 

administration. Parsing and waffling and insisting upon their own version of "the truth." 

God, it is disgusting. 




Kennedy's Up! Popcorn Ready Just In Time! 

Make me spill my Fucking popcorn, Senator Kennedy! 



here. 

(0 / 0) 

Part 3 is up. Unrec this one 





Abu making excuses... 

about his limited role. How he's had thousands of conversations which is why he can't 

recall all the details of his involvement. 

Says he was focused on complaint of Carol Lam's performance... not on this process 

that Sampson was involved in of compiling lists, etc. 



PLEASE UNRECOMMEND!!! (1+ / 0-) 

#3 is up...thanks!!! 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 


(1+ / 0-) 




04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Kennedy up to bat 

How can you say you stand by the judgement if you weren't involved? 

Wham! 




well 



Abu: 

(0 / 0) 

If this guy is the head.. if he is responsible.. why doesn't HE have the information? 

These excuses are weak. 

(0 / 0) 

I was not person with most information...deputy attorney general...thrown under the 

bus. Splat. 




Tells Ted his question is "fair"wonder if Specter 

Leahy's feeling are hurt 

(3+ / 0-) 



O.K. I like to keep record.. (7+ / 0-) 

...of how the early play forecasts the end result of the game. 

In baseball (yes, and in cricket) you can get a feel of it how it might go but there can 

be big surprises down the line. 

Well, this game has only just started. Already, we can see it is no contest. There will be 

no surprises. 

We are watching the demise of a sad, failed man. He has become a caricature of the 

what he threatened to be on the first day of his appointment. 

The only question is to what extent he will anger the senators. 

Because this is the Department of Justice of the United States of America, because this 

man guided much of the moral standing of the administration in its actions for dealing 

with individuals at home and even, through advice, the response to issues to the people 

of other nations overseas, this is one of the saddest and sickest days that I have seen 

since I watched those Nixon days. 

And I fear that there are sadder and sicker days to come with others in high office of 

State. 

NEW INTERNATIONAL TIMES For people. ePLURIBUS MEDIA For excellence. 

by Welshman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:22:10 AM EDT 



(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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I just hope to God... 

it doesn't end here. 





CNN Analyst Is Blasting Gonzo n/t 



How so? What's he/she *saying*??? ( nt ) 




Gonzo 

Asked if Gonzo is "in charge of Justice or not" 

(Paraphrasing) something about gonzo's statement(s) about "consensus"... 



has exactly TWO talking points 

That's all he could remember. 

And that's all he has in his gun. 

And right now, he's shooting BLANKS!!! 




Gonzo was coached to go on the attack 

Sounds like it, doesn't it? "Don't show fear" they told him. When cross-examined, he 

gets all combative an' stuff. 

But he's a crappy speaker and he just sounds weak and whiny. This isn't what you want 

in an AG. His answers are almost immaterial - he's coming across in his affect as a 

weak Bush crony. 

Every day's another chance to stick it to The Man. - dls. 

by The Raven on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:22:45 AM EDT 


Catching him on his own words (2+ / 0-) 

oh jeez! 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

"...since you gave it to Mr Sampson." 

(4+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 


(0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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He passed the buck like a good Rethug. 

"It's all the fault of my deputies." What a weasel. 



TED BUSTS him 

Imporper? LOL, see Speedy stuble over his words. 

If America were to die and an autopsy was to be performed the media would be the 

cause of death. 

by dynamicstand on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:23:53 AM EDT 


I just snuck a peek and Gonzales is not smirking! 

It's a miracle, people! Write it down!! 

Happy Day! 

My file on RedState.org: Adigal: Another one of them left wing girls way too smart for 

our own good. Her phones need to be monitored. 

by adigal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:24:05 AM EDT 


Gonzo HAS to be wearing those astronaut diapers 




2 processes: 

one for prosecution of cases (based on evidence) the other for administration of the 

DOJ. 



AG---twisting, twisting in the wind n/t 



Gonzales sounds so much like Bush (0 / 0) 

it's creepy. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

The Art of Karen Wehrstein 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

I'm just waiting for him to say, "It's hard work... hard work..." 

by Karen Wehrstein on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:28:54 AM EDT 


(0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 01:48 PM 

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Cannot find Blog link #3 



here 

link to 3 




#3 

Here it is 


Jazz Cooking 



thanks Abby and Kate 

by Pink Lady on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:58:40 PM EDT 


Gonzales sounds 

(1+ / 0-) 

like he's trying very, very hard to keep his story straight. The tone of his voice and the 

pace of his speaking just gives that sense. 

by bill e on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:33:56 AM EDT 


This is the state of our media: no live, complete 

. . . mainstream media coverage of testimony by the highest law-enforcement official in 

our country about possible crimes committed by him and his overlords. 

Fucking mind-boggling. 

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(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 





I lost it this morning whie watching CNN (1+ / 0-) 

Fucking folding chairs on the lawn at VTech... 

Like it's Regis and Kelly at Disney world. I couldn't even hear what they were saying 

because I was yelling at the screen. 




(4+ / 0-) 

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Link to Gonzales Hearing Live Blog #3 (0 / 0) 



(Re/posted for those who haven't noticed yet.) 












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Daily Kos: PLEASE UNRECOMMEND: Live Blog #3; Gonzales Hearing 

PLEASE UNRECOMMEND: Live Blog #3; Gonzales Hearing 

by kate petersen [Subscribe] 


Part 4 is now up! Please unrec this one and recommend Part 4. 

Link to Part 2 


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Windows Media 

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bumblebums advises me that this service provides an audio link.) 




kate petersen's diary :: :: 





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Sampson had 15 

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I just got here from the old thread 

and there are already 180+ comments. 




thanks kate! 

Fast post. Kennedy up. 





so what's the biggest bombshell so far? 

If any? 




I think that Specter... 

by FGFM on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:21:11 AM EDT 


a brown puddle n/t 

by roger in DE on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:22:27 AM EDT 


wow 

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caused Gonzo to have a big puddle in his pants! 

(3+ / 0-) 




MMM... (12+ / 0-) 

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Specter? And not Leahy? I'm pleasantly surprised. 

Thanks for doing this. Us working stiffs appreciate it. 

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by ebradlee10 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:20:06 AM EDT 


Go Ted Go! (n/t) 



Can I just say... 

...I love Ted Kennedy. 




the best 

go, Ted! 

"how can you know that none of them were removed for improper reasons...?" 




no better democrat out there!!! 

by demmefatale on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:30:49 AM EDT 


I'll do blog #12 if we need it 




Is #13 okay? n/t 


Jazz Cooking 



sure 




Great to see you (0 / 0) 

You OK? 

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by anotherCt Dem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:51:40 AM EDT 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 






by Sam Seder 




April 22nd! 



Candidates 

Read more... 

Classifieds 


today) 








Read more... 



Page 5 of 67



For some excellent... 

speculation on who will replace Gonzo, try this diary- After Gonzalez, the Deluge? 

w/poll by Land of Enchantment. 



Specter 

G: sen i don't want to quarrel with you 

S: i don't want to either, i just want you to answer the question 

S: were you involved in the process 

G: yes 

S: is that limited in your professional judgement 

G: based on what i thought, what i understood was going on, yes 

i believed that that was ongoing, that he would bring back to me a consensus 

S: did you tell mercer to take a look at lam's record with a view to having her removed 

as a USA 

G: what i recall that dept had recvd numerous complaints about gun and immig issues, 

don't recall whether mercer presented me with numbers 

... 

S: nevermind mr sampsons project were you invovled in eval of lam 

G: of course i was involved 

S: 

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G: i have no recollection about that but I presume that that is true 

S: involved with iglesias 

G: recall having conv with mr rove, samspon brought me consensus recommendation to 

remove 

S: are you being candid in saying you only had limited involvment... whehter you have 

sound judgment in saying it was limited... reality is that your characterization of your 

involvement contrad to the facts 

G: i prob had thousands of conversations during that time... so it was limited 

involvement... re: lam i did not consider this as part of that eval process... dealt with 

the complaints 

S: it's not part of the process you thought of as part of your job? 

G: didn't consider it as part of the process mr sampson was working on 

S: but it was intimately connected with her qualif to stay on 

G: i look back now and realize it may have affected... was focused on a complaint i had 

recvd about her performance... was focused on making sure she was doing her job 





you my dear ... (16+ / 0-) 

ARE FANTASTIC! 

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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Stenographer! 

 



Engineer by degree actually :) 

20+ years in IT, so I've done a lot of typing! 





Well done! 

Kudos for a job well done! 

 

by ebradlee10 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:35:16 PM EDT 


I'm glad you are here! Thanks so much! n/t 



The Rachmaninov of live blogging! 




SOMEONE ASK GONAZELS: 

Why did you refuse to fire Iglesias before talking to Bush and agree to it after talking 

to Bush? 

Did Bush order the firing? 





"I don't recall." 

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aka: I'm a flippin' jackass. 

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his mention of Rove and Pres in his first questioning? 



Waiver of executive privilege? 

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good." Steven Wright 

by gsbadj on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:53:35 AM EDT 


msnbc video link 


by bubbles on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:22:06 AM EDT 


Doesn't work in Eire! Any other, please? 




Added to diary, thanks! n/t 


Jazz Cooking 



Kennedy 

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Kennedy must be thinking what a joke this man has made of the job his brother once 

held. 

That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, 

but the sound of a bat on a ball. ~Bill Veeck 

by MikeBaseball on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:22:08 AM EDT 


I might be able to take one of the later spots. 

Can I let you know once I get to work in an hour and a half? 




All hail the livebloggers (10+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

for keeping up on what's happening for those of us who can't see/hear it live. 

(Curses... stuck in meetings all morning. Today of all days...!) 

Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that His Justice cannot 


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sleep for ever. - Thomas Jefferson 

by Lashe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:22:09 AM EDT 


Hey you Dummy 

Kennedy: 

Limited? 

The process not vigorous? 

How can you say your decision was justified? 

Gonzales: 

Blames Sampson. 

But if it was all Sampson’s Fault, How can you testify it was justified firing? 



Limited involvement 

so how do you know if conclusions for firing were proper. 





Poor Abu 



Kennedy: If you had a limited involvement 




bam. ( nt ) 




Kennedy up! (3+ / 0-) 

Peace. 

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Trying to play "Mistakes were made" and "I'm competent" cards at the same time is 

"Hard, hard, work" 

how can you know that they weren't removed for improper reasons? 

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AG still trying to shift focus on Sampson. He's getting that crinkly forehead these guys 

get when they're lying. 




04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Louse louse LOUSE 

Shifting it onto his subordinates. Louse. 


early 1960s 



LOL – “That’s A Fair Question 

Senator Kennedy." 



Translation: "I was waiting for this question." 

to hit it out of the park.... 

Is It Time To Impeach Yet??? Just Checking... 

by TheManWithNoPoint on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:24:06 AM EDT 


How many lies can he tell 

before the hammer drops? oy.... 




I think we're going to find out 

He's now lying about earlier lies. 




My Dear American Friends: One Thought 4-U... 

these hearings are being watched and listened to all over the world... I'm in my 

basement office north of your border, watching this unbelievable spectacle... 

You have no idea how much damage Bushco has wrought to your 

nation...No.Idea...but I bet you can guess... 




I think we may... (1+ / 0-) 

...have an idea. 

 

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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Do you need more volunteers for live blogging? 




Yes! 

If you'd like to do a diary, please leave a comment to kate peterson's first comment 

above, and they'll put you in a slot. 

If you'd like to transcribe testimony, just jump on in! 



Ok .. I volunteered for a diary. 

The C-Span online feed is running a little slow for transcripts :-) 




Abu in response to Kennedy 

It wasn't me, it wasn't me, it wasn't me. Kennedy remains calm; he knows this fool is 

hanging himself. 




Abu style...hands off 

and mind off...let someone else do it and hand me the paper and I'll nod in agreemnt. 

SHape shifter that he is! 





Werekin of the World resent this comment ! 

Do not besmirch us shapeshifters by equating us with that slimey little Bush's-cocksucker 

! 

"When reality bites, bite back!" ~ The Werewolf Prophet, resident Looped-Garou of 

Prophecy Street 

by The Werewolf Prophet on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:23:31 AM EDT 


He's whining and can't spit the lies out quick (3+ / 0-) 

enough. 

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oh, oh, oh..... 

Kennedy's got him over a barrel: 

If you weren't involved, how can you know that the firings were improper? 

Don't fuck with the Irish, they can out-talk everyone. 

Lisa 




and of course 

Don't fuck with someone whose brother was AG, because he's going to know how the 

job is supposed to be done. 

(watching liveblogs while in a meeting... I'm so bad!) 





gonzales: ex post facto review 

only after the fact did he check whether any of the removals were improper 




Pissing off Spector with his Interjection 

Was really not good at all... 

His opening speech sounded just like 43 

Now Kennedy will hard boil this egg of a man 

I bet Karl is SCREAMING HOOOOOKKKKKKKK!!!! 

And there is nothing that little toad can do about our Petulant AG 

...we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret 

oaths, and to secret proceedings- John F. Kennedy 

by RF on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:24:07 AM EDT 


n/t 

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His lips are still moving (4+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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I have in my mind a recollection... 

...at the time. Sheesh... 



Ted hammering on the point 

that AG didn't know the reasons for the firings when he approved them...and Abu is 

toedancing around his non-answer 




Abu is Toe-Dancing 

around his whole life, from what this lowly blogger can see... 




CNN sucks 


Heschel 



Yes 



Morans! n/t 

 

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They went from carrying the hearing to talking head "analysts" explaining what it all 

means. 

Yep. We're too dumb to figure it our for ourselves. 

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we obviously need the Pundits to filter the information cause we're too stoopid to 

understand it. 



how many ways can they analyse (2+ / 0-) 

"I don't remember?" 

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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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hahaha 

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He is getting ridiculous. 'Though my performance as AG, I was aware of issues' 




CNN TV feedback link 

http://www.cnn.com/... 

Give them a taste of our numbers! 

I want to see Gonzo squirm... 





REAL-PLAYER CSPAN3 




Good solid link it seems 


anonymity..." 



Shortened Ted version - "You didn't do your job" 



Bang! shooting him with his own words 



ugh (6+ / 0-) 

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Good MSNBC video link here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/... 

crystal-clear, and I'm in Canada... 

Best video I've seen yet. Diaries should add this link. 

"Didn't really know the actual reasons when you made decisions about USAtt's 

Documents show no clear rational 

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can't recall... in my mind... can't recall... in my mind...can't recall... in my mind...can't 

recall... in my mind... 




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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Ouch 

"Do not offend the Chair Leg of Truth! It is wise and terrible." 

by section29 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:27:02 AM EDT 


But can he recall somewhere else? 

Traveling where the women roar 

by Cowalker on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:58:29 AM EDT 


maybe he was recalling.... 





Gonzo almost right out of the gate... 




Is Gonzo deep throating the mic? 




Yes n/t 

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Pulling a Reagan is one thing, but what is that, an octuple Reagan? My head hurts. 

Such as in his shoulder blades or gall bladder or testicles? 

with his other head? Guys do that sometimes. 

goes to the "consensus" thing, which was one of the chief complaints of Daniel Metcalfe 

-- a recent DoJ retiree -- in his amazing interview, referenced in a number of stories 

and diaries here over the past few days. 

Without video to verify, it sounds like it. 

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Naw. (5+ / 0-) 

That's just the sound of Gonzo choking. 

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Ninox Connivens - Winking or Barking Owl: Generally nocturnal, but sometimes calls 

during the day, and on duller winter days may begin hunting before sunset. 

by Night Owl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:26:19 AM EDT 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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How can you say that decisions made on evidence 

if you don't have evidence? 




I'm sure if you asked him... 

... what the evidence was that he knew AT THE TIME, he'd say "I don't recall." 

I'm at work and can't watch but how the F does he prepare for this testimony for 

weeks, review all the documents that he had available and STILL get up there and 

expect people to believe him when he says that he doesn'r recall anything? 




How can you say ... 

that is the loaded question my dear Senator Kennedy ... 

How can you give ....? 

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Recollections in His Mind... 

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This guy's mind sounds like a scary place. 

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Actually, I take that back...you know the song the organ grinders play at the circus? 

That's what it sounds like. 



Kennedy - how can you assure us that 

(these removals) were based on proper decisions 

k - you basically gave this (process) to Sampson 

g - nothing improper occured here - I have asked the office of Professional Responsibilty 

to make sure nothing improper has gone on here 

g - there are two usas I don't recall why they were removed 

k - documents don't show any reasons for the firing. (firings) based on evidence..... 

how can you give a blanket statement that the Dept. J (gives reasons for firings) 




he jsut say he can't remember (0 / 0) 

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now he want's to claim it is all proper. (doens't it mean he remember or has checked?) 


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Gonzalez: 

Believes he had a good process when this began... 

He's going down like the titanic... 

Pen Rai! 

by Sanuk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:25:16 AM EDT 


I'm late, and I can't catch up! 

by edwardssl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:25:22 AM EDT 


don't worry... 

...so is Gonzo... 

Pen Rai! 

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Take a breath... 

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It's going to be a LONG day. LONG!! Grab a bottle and start drinking. 




Then I'll have to break for the bathroom. 

Unless I use a catheter 



Depends are wonderful for these hearings. 




Use a spitoon! 




A spitoon!!!! (1+ / 0-) 

Damn, I love this place! 

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don't worry 

Our troops won the war. Bush lost the peace. 

by snazzzybird on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:43:42 AM EDT 


There's plenty more fun to come! 


Heschel 



I relied upon consensus... 

I believed I had a good process. 

Now Kennedy asking about EARS process. 




Heh.. relied on nonsensus! n/t 





"consensus" = 

what George and Karl want. 





Kennedy: did Gonzo review document (5+ / 0-) 

Gonzo: No 

Kennedy: Gonzo speak to assistant US Attorneys 

Gonzo: I may have - did visit San Diego office 

Kennedy: Did you review or evaluate the effect of firing on ongoing procesutions? 

Gonzo: broad answer. 

Kennedy: Did you speak to anyone about Lam 

Gonzo: Yes 

Kennedy: Who 

Gonzo: No names - heh - evades 

END Kennedy 

```` 

peace 

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establishes that abu's DOJ "evaluations" 

are NOT standard OPM practice. quick review ... 

OPM pdf 

USCG, a competency based performance evaluation system with a maximum of 9 core . 

EARS Newsletter (1998) 

"All appropriated fund civilians in the General Schedule (GS/GM) and Wage Grade (WG) 

pay systems will be covered under the new performance management system called the 

Excellence, Achievement, and Recognition System (EARS) on April 1, 1999." 

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution. 

by MarketTrustee on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:34:53 AM EDT 


Actually I believe federal processes 

are supposed to be documented and reviewed, ie. certified as "good processes." They 

are not supposed to be faith-based. 

Of course this administration is always justifying things they do based on what they 

"believe." 




Ted is schooling Gonzo re: Ears reports 



Is it wrong 

To pee in a cup to avoid missing anything? 



Not as long as it's YOUR cup. (n/t) 

What did the President know and when did he stop knowing it? 

by Pyewacket on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:26:36 AM EDT 


Yes. (22+ / 0-) 

Fortunately, I can give you a preview of the next five minutes so you don't miss it: 

Kennedy: Question. 

Gonzales: Lie. 

Kennedy: Question. 

Gonzales: Lie. 

Rinse, repeat. 

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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Use a plant you hate. 





LOL! My pint went all over my t-shirt! 




caught in another lie 

"Senator I didn't review the document." 




So, another part of his job 

he wasn't doing. Just exactly what was Abu doing, besides warming his chair, day in 

and day out? 




Teds asking about EARS process 

to evaluate US atty's. Abu says it occurs every 3-5 years, a peer review...Ted asked if 

he had an oppt'y to review...Abu said no, but it is "only one of the [things] to review, 

in this process." 




I wish they had grilled Alito like this 

instead of making long speeches. 




A big hello (15+ / 0-) 

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to any of Biden's staff that happen to be reading. 


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by stevej on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:28:14 AM EDT 


I don't remember. Did Biden 

even asks questions? I do remember he talked and talked and talked and talked. I 

remember someone talked so long that they used up all their time. 




Didn't he put on a baseball cap?? 





Ted: Did you speak to any replaced USAtt? 

only one Bogden 



did you speak 

Biden = Jester 

with any of the Assist. USAs? Basically no but he is saying he may have met with 

them. He's going to get nailed on this. Met after the firings, not before. 





He was basically MIA 

WWJD? - what would Jesus delete? 

by annefrank on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:27:56 AM EDT 


I'll bet gonzo is wearing one of those astronaut 

diapers 

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Or wishes he had...n/t (3+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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I guess we'll find out when he stands up. 

No way he remains continent till the end. 



Difference in intelligence 

Kennedy vs. Gonzales 

GOP brain disease so evident. 




Fredo keeps saying 

"I think it's important for the American People to understand...." 

Why? 




The American people... 




It kill five seconds n/t 

-5.13, -6.31 



Oh, we understand 

by Wharton on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:58 AM EDT 


Oh JEEZ! (6+ / 0-) 


(7+ / 0-) 

no longer give a shit what he says. Approval ratings and the 2006 election bear us out 

on this. 

We can tell when bald faced lies are being told, believe it or not. Bush and Cheney use 

this same term constantly when they are being called out. 

Did anyone catch that just then? 

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He said something, then tried retracting it, but Ted was already on his next question. 




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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Senators 

under time constraints. 

Abu wants to explain, can't give simple direct answers like, say, Valerie Plame. 

He ain't too bright. 




Glad to see them not allowing Abu to go on too 



Weasel Words 

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long. Just hammering away. 

by DaveHD on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:28:01 AM EDT 


EXACTLY!!! n/t 

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Anybody want to bet how many times Gonzalez is going to say "I've looked at the 

documents made available to Congress" to protect himself from perjury? I wonder if 

he's had a chance to look at the documents not made available to Congress, and what 

they might say. 

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Hot, hot, hot - Gonzo's getting hotter 

round and round they go - Teddy is closing in about discussing with anyone on their 

performance - did g talk to anyone in their offices? g did with respect to san diego - 

may be attorney acting that I may hav met with 

k - so you may have met with someone in one of the affected offices? 

g did visit san diego well after the firings 

k - did you (study) the impact of their removal of ongoing investigations? 

g - investigations done by assistant usas......... 




May have met... (10+ / 0-) 

with people in acting US capacity. 

Kennedy: Did you evaluate prosecutions. 

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Peter Lorre: US attorneys are important but built to withstand change. His voice is 

escalating to castrati. 


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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Peter Lorre! Perfect. "Hide me, Rick! Riiick!" nt 




I made a brief trip during this testimony 

and couldn't help noticing how unfortunate he is in the pitch of his voice. They school 

women who want to move into executive positions to level the pitch of their voices to 

avoid sounding childish and shrill, with all the bad connotations that go along with that. 

Gonzales needs some schoolin' in this, as in many other areas. 

He sounds like a pre-adolescent boy trying to explain away his plagiarized report. 




Did you have any review What was the impact? 

Good question; still hasn't answered that though. 



Really... 



Depends on what you're drinking 

-4.50 -5.44 

(5+ / 0-) 

Is "I believe I recall" better than "I don't recall"? 

Judging from K-Man's facial expressions, I'm guessing no. 

I believe I recall = 1 drink/shot 

I don't recall = 2 drinks/shots 

"They're all crazy. They're all crazy except you and me. Sometimes I have me doubts 

about you." -- Garrett Fort 

by Spathiphyllum on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:29:47 AM EDT 


they should just stop it now (10+ / 0-) 

and fire him for incompetence since its so obvious 


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04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Peace. 

Why do that 




A lot of people must be streaming C-Span 3 



the real player cpsan3 stream seems better 




yeah, but if you 




MSNBC has a feed if C-SPAN 3 cuts out 



The Windows Media Player 

"Investigative reporting is not stenography", Maureen Dowd, Oct. 22, 2005 

by Jackson on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:52:20 AM EDT 


Gonzo: (12+ / 0-) 

Pen Rai! 

before Gonzo drags others down with him? 

Keeps fuzzing in and out with pingy audio scrambled video 

hang in there, it returns. 

Also CNN is streaming it on their "Pipeline" (shoulda called it "Series o' Tubes", although 

I think you have to be a subscriber to that service. 

I am watching MSNBC's stream; it has the clearest video with no connection problems 

thus far (47 minutes), and no text boxes (whether you like the nametags or not). 

CNN was covering it on television, briefly, but they stopped... 

link from Cspan works very well 

"miss Lam is a wonderful prosecutor" 

Wow! 

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No way 

(1+ / 0-) 

Holy shit, that's something Joe Sixpack can relate to. 




Fredo arguing back ain't helping himself 

he looks like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar, who was in charge of Justice 

Sampson or Gonzo? 

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with but one step" 

by testvet6778 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:29:08 AM EDT 


Abu is going to need to take a break 

after every questioner... 



Grassley went to a funeral. n/t 




VTech funeral? n/t 




Didn't say. n/t 




family funeral 

Political Cortex 

by btyarbro on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:47:08 AM EDT 


To CNN (3+ / 0-) 

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Get the talking heads off and put on the judicial hearings. It dosen't take a rocket 

scientiest to figure this out. 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore!!!! 

by Horsehead on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:29:35 AM EDT 


I sent them an email 

To let them know I appreciate them covering Gonzales hearings, with the implication 

that they're the only network willing to recognize there is more news today than 

pictures of Cho holding a gun. 



"I don't want to leave you with the impression... 

...that those were the only discussions." 




Focus was on Caroil Lam: saying she was slow on 

guns and immigration 



Brownback 

(6+ / 0-) 





Gonzo sounds a little less tense n/t 




He's given time 

(9+ / 0-) 

getting ready for softball snooze time. 

(1+ / 0-) 

to give the answers he wants to (spin, spin). 




AG had genuine concerns (5+ / 0-) 

about Lam's performance re: immigration prosecutions. 

Ted's done. Grassley gone to a funeral, Brownback's up. 


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G slams Lam again and again 

yes there was a discussion with others about Miss Lam. 




Then he says she was wonderful. 

then why fire her, dumbass? 





Oh no...they are going to let him breathe.n/t 



Losing proposition 

Gonzales Strategy: 

Blame Sampson for disorganized review. 

Problem: How can you say the firings were justified? 



Going to Brownback 

I hope everyone will be able to shower after 




BB: why these specific att'ys fired? 




Gonzales is claiming (37+ / 0-) 

that he does not know why Iglesias was on the list but that he independently was not 

surprised to Iglesias on the list. 

This is key. 

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This allows Gonzales to say that he did not instruct the firing but the firing did not 

surprise him. 


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This takes his conversation with Bush out of the firing process. 

I wrote in a diary on this topic that Gonzales was going to have to find a way to say 

that Iglesias was fired independantly of Gonzales' conversation with Bush about 

Iglesias. 

This is how he's doing that. Gonzales is trying to say that the review process, in which 

he was not much involved, picked Iglesias for firing all by itself, but Gonzales was not 

surprised to see it -- because he had talked to Domenici and Bush. 

He's trying to claim that the conversations with Domenici and Bush had 

nothing to do with the process. 





shit n/t 




Still 




What tasks ARE Abu's responsibility? 

Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask 

why not? 

by RFK Lives on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:55:44 AM EDT 


Holy Shit... 

(0+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

someone has to justify the findings of the review board. And that's not possible. 

What does he spend his time doing--keeping up w/ W's Fantasy League teams, taking 

Barney for walks, and checking on any legal issues involving a member of the Bush 

family? He's not a liar or a criminal, he's just the legal profession's answer to Michael 

Brown. That's quite a defense of his tenure as AG. 

(7+ / 0-) 

they've disappeared Grassly again. Poor guy. Has anyone seen him since Sampson? 




Meh (1+ / 0-) 

I wasn't expecting much out of him. 

(1+ / 0-) 





04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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so in reviewing work performance 

so in reviewing work performance, he didn't peer revies, didn't talk to the attorneys, 

didn't talk to the assistanst, wow what a great review process this idiot has. 





Ugh 

Here comes Brownback to lick Gonzales's balls. 




Brownback ask about Bogden 

Gonzo: In hindsight - went to Sampsom - Sampsom agonized re Bogden resignation - I 

regret that we didn't have face to face meeting - I stand behind my decision. 

My regret is that the meeting did not occur. However - it was the right decision to force 

his resignation. 

```` 

peace 




Apparently-2 processes in the DOJ 



Bogden 

(0+ / 0-) 

One for prosecuting cases (based on facts) the other is administration (based on 

whatever the WH finds convenient). AG's answer didn't sound so good. Good joust, 

Kennedy. 

(3+ / 0-) 

doesn't know about his performance. Oy 





brownback (2+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

brings up president can do whatever he wants with USAs 




04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Is the C-span 3 stream choppy for anyone else? 

Are the c-span servers melting yet? The choppiness is really bugging me. 

by oglongcock on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:30:54 AM EDT 


Try MSNBC 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/... 


anonymity..." 



Thank you. Trying it now. 

Anything for a better viewing... 



Crap. It goes to videos about Choe/VTech. 



its fine for me 




yes CSPAN 3 is very choppy 




Yep 

Why MSNBC, WHY! The link is correct, but it plays the wrong video. Does MSNBC 

work for anyone else? 

(0 / 0) 

its driving me nuts 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 


Angel Diaz 



yes, hang in there tho' n/t (0 / 0) 





(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Gonzo: I don't remember why I fired Bogden 




but i know it was right. 





Senator Brownshit Wants The Facts! 



Brownback up. 

This is going to be two minutes of setting up lies. 

Brownback is nothing if not an Administration lackey. 




He's running 

He's running for pres., trying to get the knuckledragger vote locked down. 



abu's voice... 

goes down three octaves now that Brownback is up. WHewww... 




We have discovered G's real calling........ 

he's a fab actor - Brownback is permitting him the breathing room to sound semihuman. 

Ugh. 

(0+ / 0-) 




Asking about EARS system... (8+ / 0-) 

of evaluation of attorneys. 

(5+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 


(5+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Abu said this standard evaluation is only one factor to take into consideration. 

Kennedy asks... Did he speak to any of the assistant attorneys in the affected 

attorney's office? 

Abu did speak to one in San Diego office AFTER the firings, not before. 

Did you speak with others w/in dept. of Justice about any of the performance of the 

attorneys before firing. 

Abu: Yes 

WHO? 

Abu: I don't recall. 

Does recall a meeting and a discussion about Miss Lamm but he had genuine concerns 

about immigration issues and there were some other discussions but can't recall 

specifics. 



Don't Recall = 

Unqualified for the job in the first place due to an ineffective memory. 





so brownback 

knows what Gonzo has been studying as he's got a list of who and why with the firings 



lol 

He didn't go after smut enough!! What a joke. 



Kennedy (33+ / 0-) 

K: how can you know that none of them were removed for improper reasons since you 

had limited involvement 

G: 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

K: but when you made the judg decision, you didn't know, did you? 

G: i knew the basis on which i made the decision 

K: didn't know whether dec were improper... process was not vigorous, you delegated it 

to mr sampson 

G: nothing improper occurred here, you have more document... just to be sure i 

checked with doj to be sure nothing improper occurred 

K: you didn't know the actual reasons when you approved right? 

G: as to the others i recall, was not surprised to see the names, had become aware of 

specific issues related to performance 

K: how can you say in you statement that doj makes decisions based on evidence... 

that wasn't case with you... you said you weren't responsible for compiling evidence... 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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how can you say it was based on evidence 

G: WRT what is happening here i believe we have a good process 

K: doj has a process, called the EARS process, been there for years and years .... 

periodic comprehensive eval of USAs 

G: that occurs every 3-5 years in office 

K: did you have an opportunity to review that doc, the std doc of justice dept 

G: i did not review the doc, believe it is just one factor 

K: have you spoken with any of the replaced USAs 

G: i have spoken with mr ? 

K: did you speak with any of the assistant USAs, serving with ones that were replaced 

G: i certainly did WRT san diego, may have met with others in connection with my 

visits, weeks of march 12 and thereafter 

K: so you may have met with some of them 

G: i may have met with some serving ... this was well after the firings 

K: what would be impact of ongoing prosecutions? 

G: i think that's important, want american people to understand... obv USAs are 

important but his institution is built to withstnd change... if we had info about public 

corruption case 

K: did you speak to others in dept about performance - did you, indiv speak to any of 

them about their performance prior to the time they were fired 

G: yes 

K: who 

G: sen, i don't recall.. but issues came up with perf about ms lam... do recall a 

discussion about the numbers... i had genuine concerns... partic about immigration, 

thought we should do better, much better in this district 

K: my time is up 

G: there may have been other discussions, don't want to leave impression these were 

the only discussions 





What type of engineer and where? 

I should go for an MS there. So darned impressive... your typing skills are. 

I am without words today... 

by Malachite on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:27:52 AM EDT 


Another "I don't recall" 




Over/under: 9 n/t (0 / 0) 


(4+ / 0-) 

anyone want to wager how many there will be? 

(0 / 0) 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 34 of 67




Is it me 

"Sometimes I think it should be a rule of war that you have to see somebody up close 

and get to know him before you can shoot him." - Colonel Potter, M*A*S*H 

by Chaoticfluffy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:31:58 AM EDT 


You're not wrong...eom 




I do not recall, I do not recall--Sampson did it! 



regrets 

(3+ / 0-) 

or did Brownback just basically go, "Well, we know some of these guys think (haha) 

something wrong happened here (haha), so why don't you go ahead and set them 

straight?" 

I just tuned in though, and know nothing about Brownback, so maybe I'm wrong. 

(0 / 0) 

he didn't have face-to face meeting with Bogden. Did he have one with anyone of 

these attorneys for heavens sake? 





G - falling back on the performance 

"lack of energy" in office (!) 

Not a particularly effective or professional qualifier. 




Bathroom Break? 

(5+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Brownback: Ok, I'm going to throw you a "slow ball." That's like in baseball where they 

throw a ball real slow. Ok, nevermind. I'm going to ask you an easy question. Try not 

to cry while answering. 



i'm guessing brownback (4+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 


(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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was briefed on what questions shrub wants asked. 





Notice how relaxed Abu seems 

with Brownshirtback up to bat? 

TFYQA - think For Yourself, Question Authority 

by Niniane on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:32:32 AM EDT 


totally...smiling, 

sitting back, smoothly reeling off his lying story...he wanted to help Bogdan, because 

"he struggled over this decision" 




so 

(3+ / 0-) 

The deputy agonized over it.. but you didn't, I guess.. because you outsourced your 

job. 



stream troubles 

(0 / 0) 

(3+ / 0-) 

Those having trouble on C-Spain might want to try the WaPo live video. Not perfect, 

but relatively good. 

by evanaj on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:32:35 AM EDT 


Gonzo: We're incompetent 




Ridiculous, Of Course. n/t 

(7+ / 0-) 

(9+ / 0-) 

We don't have a good process to speak with USAs face to face. 

(0 / 0) 





Their called "airplanes", Alberto. ( nt ) (0 / 0) 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 36 of 67





Gonzo 

Pen Rai! 

(0 / 0) 

regrets no face to face with fired atty's re: their performance, but he still made the 

right decisions. 



He uses that official White House Ouija Board 

You know the same one they use for Iraq. 




Brownback is actually asking real questions 

Why were each of the USA's fired, one by one? 

Unlike Hatch is going to. 





This stuff seems easy to Gonzo, but may trip him 

In the long run... 





he is reading G's crib notes... 

(2+ / 0-) 

by volballplr on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:12 AM EDT 


Brownback - why was Nevada/Bogden let go? (7+ / 0-) 

That was hardest says Gonzo - level of energy in a fast growing district, level of energy 

n that office. 

Talked the night of Sampsons testimony.Bogdon hard. Sorry we didn't meet him face to 

face. 

Mechanism meeting with USAtty hard???? Huh? phones faxes don't work? 



(5+ / 0-) 


(4+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 37 of 67


They agonized: a good thing 

He regrets no face-to-face meeting. 

He wanted to help him find a new job. Oh really? 




He takes decisions very 

seriously but not involved. Is he nuts? 





I felt reallly... 




"i do not recall 

(5+ / 0-) 

really bad about Bogden. Here let me help you because, you know, I feel really really 

bad. 

(4+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

what i knew about mr. bogdan in december..." 

he doesn't remember a damn thing... 

"Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built 

upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense 

by Cedwyn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:34:01 AM EDT 


Gonzo is taking too much time for 

(2+ / 0-) 

just the first one ... Bogdon or however you spell that name 

brownback asks him to be more concise and wants to give him the opportunity to say 

why these USAs were fired. 

Brownback is a WH tool ... I like the brownshit name btw. 



BrownSHIRT is more fitting (1+ / 0-) 

But maybe that's what you meant :-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one 

that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush! 

by brainwave on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:42 AM EDT 



04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 38 of 67


"closest call" 

Johnny Sutton must be his hero... 



Brownback,,,, 

"Here's a bigger bucket - the one you're using to bail out the boat is too small and you 

are sinking FAST". 





As I recall knowing? WTF? 

Is anyone keeping a list of how many ways Abu is going to lie? Was that ALL he was 

studying? He obviously doesn't have his facts straight. 



Listening on XM radio 

The "I don't recalls" are just jumping out the radio dial. I sure hope someone is keeping 

track. It must be over a million now. 




No independent basis for recollection 

What does "I have no independent basis for recollection" mean? 

Man, this guy pisses me off. 




Charlton in AZ... 

Made a very poor decision on a death penalty. I'm not aware of any of these facts here 

but I made a decision on this case. Exercised poor judgement in implementing policies. 

He acted on his own...didn't turn at the roots like the other aspens. 




Word of the Day....RECALL (2+ / 0-) 

"I don't RECALL???" 

"I do RECALL????" 

(0 / 0) 

(6+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

by OWTH on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:35:05 AM EDT 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 39 of 67



Brownback is listening so thoughtfully 

See how serious I can look. 

by BehereBenow on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:35:15 AM EDT 


I are serious Senator!...n/t 



"Serious concerns about his judgment" 

B is feeding G lines 

This is a setup 




What's the over/under ... 

on his references to presidential pleasure? 




With the crease in Gonzo's forehead 

(watching MSNBC vid), it almost looks like he's wearing a hairnet. I had to look three 

times! 


anonymity..." 



Ellicatt Help!! 

(1+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(6+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

I cannot get the title to change in my diary. I've tried it many times, deleted cookies, 

restrted IE. How did you get your to finally take? 





It seemed that once the diary (2+ / 0-) 

slipped down the list, the title changed. The same thing happened to me, too! 




(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 40 of 67


At least 

Sampson had 13 diaries with 4424 comments. Yea, I researched it when I wrote the 

Call for Volunteers diary. 





Ignore that. It was meant to go elsewhere but 





It looks like Abu has prepared to give a reason 



Ugh again 

I found once my diary was replaced in the number one position, the title changed. 

That's something to note for the future. 

why each of the attys had to go. I'm not sure that trashing the reputations of ninety 

mainstream Rethugs is a wise move on his part but it is in character. 

"It's difficult for me to talk critically about these individuals who served their country..." 

but I was okay letting my deputy fire them for political reasons. 




Another USA doesn't remember why he fired them 




I don't recall remembering WTF 

Did that work for you about your homework? 




"I don't recall remembering" (5+ / 0-) 

Bwahahaha! 

(3+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

"When watchdogs, bird dogs, and bull dogs morph into lap dogs, lazy dogs, or yellow 


(2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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dogs, the nation is in trouble." - Ted Stannard 

by jrooth on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:08 AM EDT 


as a former broadcast student 

I wish like hell he'd quit popping his "p"s. Or move his head back from the mic. 





I was confused 





Confused, Don't Recall= Perjury? n/t 



Yes; = Libby. 





Pathetic. Gonzo is pathetic. 





Agreed 

(2+ / 0-) 

about Cummings in my previous testimony. Lie,lie,lie. 

Just requires a prosecutor doing their job. 

no wonder our country is so fucked. 

(0+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(8+ / 0-) 

My grandmother with Alzheimers probably recalls more than this guy. If his damn 

recollection is so poor, why the hell is he the USAG??? 

by roger in DE on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:41:55 AM EDT 


How can he sit here and say (2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

"On the one hand, there were performance issues, problems etc" and then later say, "in 

hindsight" and "I regret"?? 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 42 of 67



anonymity..." 



He also admitted... 

As Americans, we owe the families of 911 an explanation. 

by nehark on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:38:21 AM EDT 


"I don't recall saying that..." n/t 


anonymity..." 



2 more "I don't recalls" n/t 




He is grasping at straws - one guy decided to 

targets 

...he didn't even talk with these fired attorneys before they were fired! How can he 

support firing a US Attorney without even talking to the person first?!!??! 

Another one poor management- very vague loss of confidence 

Cummings is different 



Now it's because someone had kids to put through 

college 

Another had poor judgement 



Gonzo just can't recall a damn thing. 




EARS teams (0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Unless he needs to cover his lying ass. 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(3+ / 0-) 

He sent an EARS team to San Diego to re-evaluate a prosecutor, yet he never looked 


(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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at any of the EARS teams reports in making his decisions. Huh??? 



Ok folks... 

Brownback is now reciting what he learned in class these past couple of weeks. Excuse 

me while I go throw up. 

Frodo failed....Bush has got the ring! 

by Alohaleezy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:39 AM EDT 


Much, much more than usual 

Gonzales sounds like he's lying and trying to keep his story straight. Anybody else 

notice that he sounds a lot more nervous than in previous hearings? 



har 

(0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

don't remember when he was fired 

The rule of law is what stands between all of us and the arbitrary exercise of power by 

the state. 

by babatunde on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:43 AM EDT 


"I myself was confused" 

well-qualified individual my ass. 




That'll instill all kinds of confidence 

in his competency. 




abu is completely ducking questions (3+ / 0-) 


(3+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

fro each prosecutor he says that he doesn't recall what his reason was on dec. 7 and 

then gives later talking points 




04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Brownback is reminding 

Abu to be "as precise as possible." You can tell from Abu's voice, tenor and tone when 

he feels he is on "safe" ground, i.e., he is being questioned by a friendly Senator or he 

recalls some of the massive amount of material he studied in preparation for this. I am 

an attorney, and I would be cringing if this were my witness on the stand. I would be 

getting ready to make a hefty settlement offer, STAT, before the transcript could be 

prepared and pored over. 




I don't recall 

remembering. OMG 

by riverlover on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:36:52 AM EDT 


I can't recall why we fired him/her, buuut... 

In retrospect, this why... 





Geez ... rehearsed 

Abu now on remote, spewing out rehearsed portions. 




Studied 

Bush press conferences for a model 

by anotherCt Dem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:53:45 AM EDT 


Brownback is a good actor since he already knows 

the answers. 

(10+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(13+ / 0-) 




Cummings asked to resign... (5+ / 0-) 

...because there was another "well-qualified individual" who the White House wanted to 

put in place. 




(5+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 45 of 67



you mean rove's buddy? 





Ryan... 

poor performance. Sent out another EARS team...poor management. Same with 

Chiara...I don't recall remembering why we did it. I since learned that it was poor 

management. Had to mediate personnel dispute. 

Cummings on different track. Confusion. I was confused when I testified. Reason, 

another well qualified individual from WH. Cummings testified...well, he didn't 

testify...he wanted to put kids through college. 




Cummins was "on a different track"? 

He wasn't a loyal Bushie? 

There was another well-qualified individual? Yeah, like Rove's aide? 




"I've since learned....." 

Know what? I don't give a flying fuck what you have learned these past several weeks 

as you "crammed" for this hearing. 

Please God, let the Dems attack him on this point - he's constantly referring to his 

"hindsight" and "what I've learned". WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. 

Lisa 

(5+ / 0-) 




"a question simply (4+ / 0-) 

of someone not having control of his office" 

of course it was, abu... 

(2+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

omg....he just said the cummins was asked to resign because the WH had someone 

they wanted in the job. 

omg...abu just cited having 4 colllege-age kids as a reason for letting him go? he 

wasn't focused or something? 





04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 46 of 67



Saw Cummins on TV just last night- 

Said he was asked to resign to make way. 




Gonzales should be impeached just for his lack of memory. This guy is a lawyer? 

I don't have to fake anything I feel, because we both know every word is real. - HBMS 

by fabooj on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:37:54 AM EDT 


Is everybody 

getting how often Gonzales is saying: "I was not surprised to see [Attorney name] on 

the list"? 

That's his whole defense. He knew of reasons why higher powers wanted these people 

fired, but those higher powers had nothing to do with it. 

So . . . 

Bush tells Gonzales that Iglesias is a problem. 

Gonzales thinks: "Hmm. That's interesting." 

Then later Gonzales sees that Sampson recommends Iglesias for firing. 

Gonzales thinks: "Hmm. I'm not surpised." 

That's the lemon of a story he's trying to sell. 





yes 

he was not surprised because he had heard complaints - I wish they'd follow up & ask 

who complained. 

```` 

peace 

(2+ / 0-) 

(8+ / 0-) 

(17+ / 0-) 




More importantly, ask: (0 / 0) 

"Are we supposed to believe that the President of the United States informed you of 

complaints about an ATTY and the only result was to lessen your surprise when you 

saw -- BIG COINCIDENCE! -- that ATTY's name on a firing list? 

You thought: "I'm not surprised"? 

(1+ / 0-) 

He's protecting Bush. Remember Bush said he did not discuss cases or issue 

instructions to Gonazles. Gonzales has to tell a story consistent with that. 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Wow, these are the fastes live threads I've seen 

I'll take 14 or 15, whatever is needed. 





You've got #15. Thanks! n/t 


Jazz Cooking 



Copy that n/t 





"exercising poor judgment" 

Gonzo is an expert on this. 




Gonzo's voice is cracking... 

...and this is under Brownbacks softballs... 

It's going to be a long day for that fucker.. 

Pen Rai! 



With good reason 

Your voice would crack too if you were waiting for someone to open the trap door 

underneath your chair. 



When did familly status (15+ / 0-) 

become a reason to be let go? 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 


(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Used to be 

But that was for women, not well-connected GOP white guys. 


Heschel 



Is it me 




note that much of his justifications for the 




isn't Brownback's time up yet? 



how come 

(9+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

or are the reasons he's giving for firing these people basically for pretty minor reasons 

that don't really seem like they should be firing offenses, such as poor judgement on 

one particular matter instead of a decision about their judgement overall. 

firings were uncovered after the firing occured 

let's let another repug waste their time on this scripted response stream. 

(15+ / 0-) 

How come I think all these attorneys are at home screaming BULLSHIT, at this bullshit 

reasoning for their firings. 





I presume that tomorrow's papers will carry 

their responses to this slander. 



PLEASE UNRECOMMEND NUMBER T W O !!! (5+ / 0-) 

THANKS...ALMOST TO #4! 

(4+ / 0-) 


(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Brownback / Gonzales 

G: he was asked to resign on june 14... i myself was confused, forgot that 

G: mr cummins was asked ot resign because there was another well qualif individual 

that the WH... 

G: mr mckay when i accepted recommend on dec 7, concerns about his judgement... 

regarding info sharing projects, he was doing a good job, it was the way he was doing 

it, exercising poor judgments... colleagues would not have signed on to the letter if ... it 

was also an instance wehre he gave an interview in washington he said don't come to 

me for any more partnerships i don't have the resources, that was inappropriate. i'm 

paraphrasing there, want to be fair to mr mckay. 





I don't recall! 




Where's Schumer???? 


Heschel 



Brownback and AG 

rehearsed much? 

Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the 

people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866 

by rapala on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:39:51 AM EDT 


N/T 

(1+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

Leahy: Okay, now back to handing you your ass. 



Oh boy, Kohl and the Georgia Thompson d eal (2+ / 0-) 

"Whatever is calculated to advance the condition of the honest, struggling laboring man, 

I am for that thing." Abraham Lincoln 

by MontanaMaven on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:40:22 AM EDT 


(3+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Why was Mr Biskupic taken off the list? 

I dunna know. 





Kohl is up 




Brownback... 

is trying to look really REALLY presidential. Looks like he's had plastic surgery for 

enhanced forhead concern wrinkles 




I can't help but wonder what the 8 are feeling 

as they hear these obviously fake reasons that he's decided to use to justify throwing 

them under the bus. 

Poor managemnt, bad judgement, hard, taped some people. 

What a jerk 



agreed 

he's basically damaging their job options for the rest of their professional careers. 

Asshole. 

Lisa 

(2+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 




Yea, permanently part of the Senate record 

that the AG of the US thought you had poor management and bad judgement, and 

taped some target in an interiew without asking permission 



Now for Kohl... (1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 


(9+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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..the dumbest Dem 



Wow, Brownback 

is just reading off fired USA names and letting Fredo spin however he wants to. Not 

surprised Brownback isn't challenging him with real questions, but Fredo is just 

completely screwing himself up. 

Pathetic. 

Peace. 



I can't believe this guy is AG. He's an idiot. 

I can never make sense out what he's saying. 

"It does not require many words to speak the truth." -- Chief Joseph, native American 

leader (1840-1904) 

by highfive on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:41:40 AM EDT 


Goes right along with this admin ... all idiots 




Pretty mediocre guy. Not even a great weasel. 





Thanks 

(2+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

I thought it was me who couldn´t figure out what he is saying 


Angel Diaz 



2 more "I don't recalls" n/t 


(3+ / 0-) 



I'm waiting for some non-breaking breaking (7+ / 0-) 

news requiring an evacuation of the entire press conference. 


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(4+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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anonymity..." 



er, hearing 


anonymity..." 



every single answer is qualified 

He is trying his best to not fall into a perjury charge 




Kohl... 




Here's a pic of him from earlier today 



Biskupic. 

(1+ / 0-) 

is NOT a good, effective examiner. He's asking open ended questions. Oh well... 

http://www.fgfm.info/... 

(6+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

was he on the list? 

i dunno 

did you take him off? 

i dunno i guess so 

Why did you take him off? 

i dunno... 





Biskupic USA from WI (4+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

This is the guy who was PULLED from the "Fire This One" list after he filed bogus 

charges against WI dems. 





04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 53 of 67


Biskupic put a woman in jail for 4 months! 

The court just threw out the case and released her. 

This should scare everybody. 





n/t 

Scares me. 




Ready for 4 Miss Blue n/t 





# 5 is almost ready 

I can jump line if Miss Blue needs more time 

Revolutionary words start revolutions 

by Catte Nappe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:46:46 AM EDT 


Where is #4? 




From Freeperville (27+ / 0-) 

They're losing it. 

This is bad......... 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

************************** 

Specter pretends he doesn’t understand how they could have 

discussions of evaluating Lam outside of the review process for 

removal. 

**************************** 

I just don’t think Gonzales is up to this. 

******************************* 

Is anyone really paying attention to this? It 100% VT all the time. Kind 

of knocks the wind right out of their hearings. 


(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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********************************* 

AG is stuttering. 

****************************** 

Yikes. Gonzales isn’t doing very well. 

**************************** 

If I were in a court case, I would hope Gonzales were opposing counsel. 

He is pathethic, if this is a representation of his legal capabilities. He is 

not representing himself nor the post of Attorney General of the US 

very well. 

**************************** 

gonzales is not doing well & that’s an understatement 

*************************** 

I’ll have a hub cap full of Marguerita’s please. 

**************************** 

The panel are using Gonzales’s own words and positions to chew him 

up and spit him out. 

Lunch Menu: 

Taco Alberto 

Alberto Burrito 

Grilled Gonzales with onions 

Alberto Taco Salad 

Gonzales Chicken Fajitas 

Fillet of Gonzales 

Alberto Quesadilla 

Enchalidas Gonzales 

Alberto Gonzales Tostado 

**************************** 

BUT ALL IS NOT LOST!!! 

He’s doing a little better now. 




Thanks for going into the swamp 

to bring us that. You must feel like you need a shower, though, don't you? 




Wow, I'm heading over right now! (1+ / 0-) 

My family's wingnut, so I'm used to this stuff. 

It's been a long, long time waiting for this regime to publicly collapse.... 

Remember the "honor" Bush was gonna restore to the White House? And by implication 

to our country? 

Like I said, off I go. Thanks. 

(3+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Read news on Radioactive Contamination 

by means are the ends on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:55:56 AM EDT 


I do not think 

that an independent voter can watch this hearing and believe that Gonzales is 

particularly trustworthy. It is all bobbing and weaving. He has said nothing that will 

make the networks stand up and take notice of his powerful words in his own defense. 

(Sorry MSOC, I am trying to see if anyone has anything on Feinstein) 

-4.00, -5.33 April 19: last day to nominate for Jewish and Israeli Blog Awards, 

www.jibawards.com. NO high-readership wingnut blogs nominated so far. 

by 4jkb4ia on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:06:27 PM EDT 


GO SCHUMER! 





* [new] as far as I've heard 

not one "yes" or "no" answer. 

Not one. 

The Senator questioning him has to drill him repeatedly to get him to say it. 

He's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo toast. 


by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:44:36 PM EDT 


Deferring to Sampson. Nice. n/t 




Biskupic is going to be 

a sticking point. He was on the list, then off the list after he went for a (an 

unwarrented) prosecution. 




"It's all Sampson's fault" (7+ / 0-) 

Dog ate my homework! 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 



04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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uh 

Okay fucking ask Sampson yourself.. aren't you the BOSS?!? 



When is my boyfriend 

Senator Whitehouse, going to speak? 

Lisa 




you mean he's cheating on me? :-) n/t 

by greenies on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:46:30 AM EDT 


Now, Sampson is to be trusted 

what a Pos 

(5+ / 0-) 



lol 

(0 / 0) 

The damned guy resign, because he says he can't perform. 

Well, which one is it? 



kohl's got him squirming 

squirming hard. about why biskupik was on the list and then removed. abu punted to 

sampson. 

"i want to be very careful..." 

i'm sure you do, ab. 

(4+ / 0-) 

(8+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 





How can he comprimise the integrity of (5+ / 0-) 

a process that's been pretty much proven to be a dishonest political hackery? 

I can't stand this guy! 

Gonzo has got to go. 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 57 of 67





he is like a slimy used-car dealer 





lol n/t 




"it was Sampson" 



over half of the American people 




Khol just said it again :) n/t 

Experience may differ in online play... 

by OCD on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:48:22 AM EDT 


"What is the rationale... 




Kohl: (0+ / 0-) 

Pen Rai! 

except less competent at lying. 

Gonzo ezpects us to believe that all this was Sampson's doing? Well then my dear AG. 

why the hell wasn't he the AG?! 

believe you should resign 

...for your remaining AG?" 

"Why is it so important for you to remain in this office" 

Nice one Bernie! 

(1+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 



04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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our country is a banana republic 

nuf said 

by lgb30856 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:45:27 AM EDT 


without the bananas 





Go Kohl 




4 is up. 




Please un-rec #3 on your way out....n/t 

-5.13, -6.31 



oh rofl 

(3+ / 0-) 

"You should resign." 

Nice summary of Gonzo's faults and poor judgment. 

(5+ / 0-) 

Live Blogging - Gonzalez Hearing #4 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

We got the obviously guilty Bob Ney, therefore we're non-partisan! 



You're attacking the attorneys not me (0 / 0) 

That's not right. What a crappy weasely defense. 






(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 59 of 67


we don't let partisan politics 

play a role with the case we bring 

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LIGHTNING BOLT? 

"criticizing the career folks" 

No shit, skippy 




Whaa, by suggesting that we did things improper 

you're really attacking the career employees of the department. 




Same as the shrub 

When you attack me, your are attacking the troops. Think of the children I am helping. 



Why's it so Important for You to Remain as AG? 

Love it! Why is it so important that a moron who Can't recall anything & who blames 

his subordinates for every mistake remain as this country's AG? 



"We've prosecuted Republicans" 

oh, okay, in that case, you're not politicizing anything. 

"I look back with pride" 




Why should I remain as AG 

(1+ / 0-) 




Why stay as AG? (0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Wow! I'd be surprised if he even puts USAG on his resume. 

(2+ / 0-) 

Cuz I'm proud and will work to restore moral. I care about justice. lol 

"Because as long as I'm AG, I can be sure I won't get indicted." 




(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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It's very important that the American people 

understand? What a piece of shit. This guys nuts. 

paj1 

by paj1 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:47:44 AM EDT 


Shut HIM down Kohl ! 

Don't let him wiggle. Step on his neck and throw him an anvil. 



um, to kill the 

"Clinton fired 93 USA's" line 

Clinton fired 93 of Bush I's USA's 

Bush II fired his own. 




We are now into prepared testimony 

territory. Abu is so stupid; he's actually lecturing this panel because he finally, finally 

feels that he is on firm ground. This is in response to the question of why he should 

remain as AG. Good works, mistakes in management, have done great things as a 

department, the work of the department continues, blah, blah, blah. All he cares about 

is that justice be done. I have to go barf now. 




Oh, per AG-- He's going after Child predators 

Like Foley????? et al???? 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 



touche. i thought it was MSNBC (1+ / 0-) 

that was going after the predators. 

(2+ / 0-) 






(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 61 of 67


n/t 

nah....just NBC...drop the MS 





"we've done great things! 

torture, spying on our own people, secret prisons, politicization of the DOJ, bringing in 

150 "lawyers" from Regent, fucking up the Civil Rights Division, killing elections and 

REAL investigations, we've done great things to SAVE BUSH's ASSS 





The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents 

For the latest news, document dumps, email archives, hearing transcripts and other 

essential materials in the firings of U.S. attorneys, see: 

"The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents." 

by Avenging Angel on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:48:50 AM EDT 


Note to Dems - do not give this guy an open 

ended question he just gets on his soapbox and wants all to earnestly know that he is 

practically the second coming of Jesus 



Does everyone FEEL educated and informed? n/t 



Another edition of short answers... 

Can I continue to be effective? 

NO 

Next question please. 


(2+ / 0-) 



the moment i believe i can no longer be effective (2+ / 0-) 

I will resign 

Operative: "I believe" 

ignoring the assessment of public perception 

typical bushie 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 


(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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effective at what? 

Of course he'll resign, the minute he is not effective as Bushco's mafia's Mr. FixIt 

lawyer. 



The Rumsfeld defense? 

AG: Can I continue to be effective? 

ha. effective on whose behalf? 

by Salvor Hardin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:49:26 AM EDT 


Gonzo can't help morale 



anyone keeping score? 

(2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

but it might help if he put his ass on a dunking tank's swing and let the nation dunk 

him good and hard and then fire his ass. Do not allow him to resign! He is a bad 

manager and that's what his job was ... to manage and he failed at his job. 

There are still cases being done not because of this a$$Wipe being AG - they are doing 

their jobs because they are competent! the USAs that is as the DOJ is full of 

incompetent cronies. 

(0+ / 0-) 

Is it enough to send Mr Gonzales packing yet? 

by mattinjersey on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:49:39 AM EDT 


Anybody seen any of the signs? 




Gonzales seems to recognize it's over 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

He was expecting aggression from the democrats but for the most part they seem bored 

with Gonzales, as a school principal who's heard it all before and knows beforehand 

where this ends up. 

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."--Edward R. Murrow 

by Scarce on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:50:44 AM EDT 


Gonzo says he looks back with pride (5+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 63 of 67


when he looks at what he's accomplished in the last 2 years. 

When the American people say they loose faith in me, they are insulting the career 

people in the Justice Department. (He's yelling as he says this.) 

I have to know in my heart that I continue to be effective as leader of this dept. The 

moment I believe I can no longer be effective, I will resign as AG. 

I am committed to getting to the bottom of this, let's find out what happened here. If 

someone else made improper recommendations, there's going to be accountability. 

(Basically, he says that he doesn't care if the American people don't have any 

confidence that he can carry out his job. As long as he feels that he can do his job, he'll 

stay. He doesn't care what the American people want or believe.) 

"It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and 

through rebellion." Oscar Wilde, 1891 

by MichiganGirl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:51:12 AM EDT 


Hatch the cheerleader-King Rat 




Orrin HAtch 

softballing 

"Do you make decisions based on the polls? You don't, do you?" 

licking his balls 




OMG 




Oral Booby Hatch to lob softballs and blow kisses 



Hatch 

(1+ / 0-) 

Hatch is such a hack. 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

is fellating Abu live on T.V.. ecchh 

Blind faith in bad leaders is not patriotism - Rocky Anderson 

by librarianman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:52:21 AM EDT 


ready to Hatch some B.S (2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Ass kisser and fraud hatch is kissing ass and covering ass. Get ready for the sift 


(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 64 of 67


questions and the gloating comments. 

Fishing for anything? How about the frickin' emails you old fart! 





Some do not want to go 

where the evidence tells us to go 

that would be you Hatch 

shove your fishing pole 

then he invokes separation of powers. 

weasel 




Orrin is going to make me cry 

it sounds real cornball. They must have rehearsed this beforehand. I wonder if they'll 

kiss after the hearing. 

by tazz on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:52:47 AM EDT 


Hatch 

Is making my just eaten breakfast sour in my stomach. He's curdling the milk in my 

tummy. 

What a goon. 

by Hummingbird on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:55:55 AM EDT 


Hatch 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

what a waste of a human being 



#4 is UP - UNRECOMMEND THIS ONE 

please, and thanks! 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 


(1+ / 0-) 



Sen. Hatch Summons Steven Colbert (6+ / 0-) 

Sen. Hatch: Mr Attorney General, do you think George W. Bush is a great president or 

the greastest president ever? 

by Dotty Gale on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:53:29 AM EDT 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 65 of 67



Dishonest 



A good time for a snack break 


early 1960s 



Orrin is holding his hand. This is so tender. 




invokes vA Tech again 




Hatch must have helped Gonzo "prepare" 




I can't take 

(0 / 0) 

is Hatch...what a hack. 

"You are so wooooooonderfullll...." 

Cripes. Let him try this without the training wheels. 

won't save you abu 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 



They are moving... (2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Hatch's bullshit anymore...my head is spinning 

in perfect synch. Hatch and abu...this is beautiful. This is EVERYTHING the Fourth 

Reich is about. Brings a tear to my eye. Der Homeland is safe. 

Whooops...Hatch's time is up. Next up Feinstein. 




(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

Page 66 of 67


Hacthing bullshit 

(1+ / 0-) 

Yes Hatch fellow citizens are dumb. Can you believe that this asshole is having this 

fraud explain his job description? hatch, go have another martini you fraud! All the 

Rebugs were on the phone with Gonzo last night I'd bet. The repugs questions aside 

form Arlen Specter seem rehearsed. 

Notice when Democrats ask questions Gonzo stutters and can't recall and gets 

defensive. 





Gonzo is accomplishing the seemingly (0 / 0) 

impossible feat of making even Brownie look relatively competent. And to think his 

name was being bandied about a year ago as a possible Supreme CT nominee. 

by mr crabby on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:49:00 AM EDT 










04/19/2007 01:50 PM 

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Please recommend this diary and unrecommend the previous ones. 

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Herb Kohl 

(8+ / 0-) 

Asking why he shouldn't resign. 




New arrivals to thread 4 

#5 is up. Come on over. 

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now he's trying to filibuster (6+ / 0-) 

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thanks for all your hard work! 

You're keeping me very entertained in my cubicle! 




Gonzo:"we don't let politics... 

partisan politics...play a role." 

Liar. 




The guy has chutzpah, I'll give him that 

Grifters. . . the whole administration is just a boiler room of scam artists. 



Diary would not publish,,,, 

with links attached. No idea why, preview came up fine. 

Also, we need additional volunteers. Please post to this comment if you can help us 

out. 





I had problems too 

Had to get out of Dkos and IE completely before it would post. You're going to have a 

hard time putting Unrecommend in the diary title when the time comes, too. It won't 

'take' until you've fallen off the #1 spot on the rec list. 





Add me to the list (6+ / 0-) 

I'll fill next available slot 

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APRIL 25th! 




down! 


Baghdad 

... Elections 

Precarious 


APRIL 24, 2007 





WATCH NOW! 


CDs! 

Read more... 


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You've got,,, 

Part 16. Thanks much. 





Gonzales 

(2+ / 0-) 

getting testy with Sen. Kohl. 



Partisan politcs do not play a role 

Gag me with a spoon!!! 




Deer in the headlights 




He's lost weight! 




best check under his chair (eom) 




we've done great things 

god, get me a bucket. 

(0+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(7+ / 0-) 





Gonzo's in orbit (2+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

Only the complete lack of oxygen would make someone think his responses were even 

barely adequate. 


04/19/2007 01:54 PM 






by Sam Seder 




April 22nd! 

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Heschel 



WooHoo! 

Open door to start asking about politicization of the career employee ranks! 

Thanks, Gonzo! 

(10+ / 0-) 




Are they taking it? 




Of course not. 




6 weeks before the election 




Gonzo is now trying to imply 




More like a snake in the headlights (2+ / 0-) 

Now, back to work! -6.00, -6.21 

(0 / 0) 

I had to step out for a second. 

(4+ / 0-) 

Senators go into suspended animation when other Senators have the microphone. 

(15+ / 0-) 

Kohl asks why Gonzales should remain in his job. Gonzales chooses to respond to the 

non-questions politicization part and starts off, "6 weeks before the election." This from 

a guy who "can't recall" anything that's happened since a week after the election. 

(12+ / 0-) 

that the Senators are impuning the career professionals in the department. 

No sorry, we think you're a useless worthless political hack. 

by funluvn1 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:46:55 AM EDT 



04/19/2007 01:54 PM 


Candidates 


Page 5 of 75


More like a snake in the... 

...klieg lights. 



Say cheese! 




Took a plea in the Bob Ney case... 

...before the election proves they were not politicizing prosecutions. Holy moly... 



The conclusion of the study... 

featured a while back a ePluribusMedia was that they were pursuing some number of 

token prosecutions of national level Republicans precisely so that it could serve as cover 

for the much more massive program of prosecution of local level Democrats. 




SHUT HIM UP!!! 

and ask a freakin' question 




The more he talks, the deeper he digs his own 

[political] grave. 



Here comes the fruits... 

(0 / 0) 

(10+ / 0-) 

Let the man keep yammering, I say. 

(4+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 

(9+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

of a week of practice. Kohl should shut the eff up for giving him this opportunity. abu's 

speech by ROve. TIme to go to bathroom. 




I don't want resign to be next Supream Court (3+ / 0-) 


(1+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 01:54 PM 

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Justice 



Thanks Miss Blue 

You all are making me late for work - as I hate to hit the road and miss all this - one 

request - lets keep the way to go comments like this one to a minimum so there is 

more room for transcribers and analyis 

"For me, walking into a nice Jewish deli IS a religious experience." -my mom 

by ETinKC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:47:14 AM EDT 


Good suggestion, ET 

Way to go! 

;) 




"I look back with pride on the things 

we have accomplished . . .We've done great things and will continue to do great 

things." 

OK, that's perjury. Can we impeach him now? 



I woulda asked 

name one........ 




Ollivander 

(6+ / 0-) 

(8+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Gratuitous Harry Potter reference - Ollivander said something like, "Lord Voldemort also 

did great things... terrible, yes, but great." when he sold Harry his wand. 



This is Incredible... (26+ / 0-) 

I'm absolutely stunned...the lies...the evasions...the snippy bullshit responses... 

Oy...I can't believe I'm saying this...Ashcroft is a genius compared to this dolt...better 

singer too... 


(9+ / 0-) 



04/19/2007 01:54 PM 

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Listen to Miss Blue, kossack kids 

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE, unrecommend the prior liveblog diaries. 

and NO PICTURES! 

and omg...kohl hit a nerve - abu's getting emotional. maybe it's because kohl just 

asked why in the world abu should keep his job. 





Nah...that was canned... 

practiced for the last week. 




Kohl 

(31+ / 0-) 

Kohl: allegations of voter fraud, public corruption cases in Wisconsin. Republican party 

efforts to influence, routed through Rove's office; was Biskupic every on the list of USAs 

to be dismissed? Reported that he was to be fired, but the Justice dept. made no 

documents available to show that. 

AG: he may have appeared in a category of concern; 

K: the question is was he on the list of attorneys considered for dismissal. 

ag: I believe he was on, yes 

K; why was he taken off the list 

AG: i don't recall discussions...he is a career prosecutor; he made target decisions after 

consulting (with dem prosecutor); he thought it was his best judgment to prosecute 

K: I'm asking was he on the list, then taken off the list; get back to me within the 

week of why he was on the list and then taken off the list 

AG: sampson would be the best person (to answer this question). I want to be 

careful; don't want to compromise the integrity of this investigation. 

K: you are supposed to serve the interests of the American people; blind to party 

affiliation. Without the public's confidence...our entire judicial system is called into 

question. According to polls, as many as 67% believe the USAs were fired for political 

reasons; half believe you should resign; we can agree that the integrity is more 

important than self preservation...(my player cuts out at this point; time to try another 

one.) 



Try MSNBC (2+ / 0-) 


(4+ / 0-) 

(13+ / 0-) 


anonymity..." 




04/19/2007 01:54 PM 

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amazing 

He's trying to hide behind the career prosecutors--the people he's driven out, 

demoralized, and debased. 

What a scumbag. He's a disgrace, and an embarrassment for our country and the 

concept of meritocracy. 

The Ney argument is absurd; the bastard already had resigned. That shows nothing. 

Ambition, Impatience and Sloth: Politics, culture and more 

by dajafi on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:47:35 AM EDT 


Gonzales: 

"Stop picking on the career attorneys! You guys are being mean to us!!" 

Blech 

Lis 




Gonzo: "When you attack the dept 




Bull! 

(18+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

for being partisan, you're attacking the 'career folks' and that's NOT RIGHT"..whiiiiiiiiiine. 

"I look back with pride and what we've accomplished in protecting our kids (?), our 

neighborhoods, and our country. We have done great things and will continue to do 

great things. This was an unfortunate incident. It's important for the American people to 

understand that ...[this is BS..he's rambling]..career folks are still doing their job.." 

(2+ / 0-) 

Nobody's attacking the "career folks", they're attacking the asswipes running the show. 

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick 

by God loves goats on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:04:30 AM EDT 


Drational is confirming for #10 



this is moving so fast (0 / 0) 

just jump in and publish when 10 is needed. 

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Can I get a mini-recap from someone? 

How are the Dems doing so far? GOPers? Gonzales? Any key revelations? Are the Dems 

asking all the right questions? 

Visit my blog Penndit for complete TV alerts & more. 

by Newsie8200 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:47:56 AM EDT 


Here's all the recap you need: 

He's lying his head off and neither side is impressed... 




That's how I'd summarize it 

with the additional note that a senator or two in both parties have mentioned that 

Gonzales's career is on the line. Absolutely no softballs besides Brownback's 

questioning, from what I've seen; and AG is at least being more verbose than Sampson 

ever was. 

Hatch is up, now. Bathroom break! First Hatch question: "Do you make decisions based 

on the polls?" ** 



Thanks... has Jeff Sessions 

started with his usual softball questions yet? 

I'm working on a report, and this Gonzales hearing is such a distraction! 




I don't think there can be any softball 

questions for Abu today...he can't even tell the panel what he had for breakfast without 

evading and trying to cover his ass both ways? 

"Did you or did you not have eggs today?" 

"Senator, again, I eat eggs all the time...I don't recall having had eggs this morning, 

but I've eaten breakfast thousands of times...perhaps...not saying 'no...' or 'yes...' 

Helluva job, Abu G... 

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"Crash & Burn" doesn't even begin to describe it. (4+ / 0-) 


Heschel 


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Gonzales is firing himself, why? 

as this goes on he's sounding more and more like an idiot. It seems willful and 

purposeful, trying to defend not let politics take a roll. He's trying to slingshot it back, 

Karl Rove put a boomerang in the hands of a moron. Gonzales is so confusing it's 

unbearable 



Kohl: perception of American people is critical 




Sorry Gonzo 

you want the American people to know they can trust the DOJ - domestic spying, 

torture, secret rendition flights, unitary exuctive - what reason is there to trust 

anything attached to this administration?? 

You chance for trust was lost loooooooong ago. 


anonymity..." 



I wish someone would ask 

about the status of the investigation of Jerry Lewis and other Abramoff/Cunningham 

related issues... 

Pen Rai! 



Career folks 

How many have left...disgusted because of Abu? What a crock. He refuses to accept any 

accountability. You slam me you really are slamming career folks. BS 





I will resign as AG (6+ / 0-) 

time, abu, time. 

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He thinks he can be effective? 

Delusional much? 




Bush says he stands by Gonzo so.... 

why are you saying he's "delusional"? 

snark 

by salsaMan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:24:42 AM EDT 


There's no way, if he's an honest man, 

that he can honestly believe he's effective in his position. 




Kohl may be a nice guy... 

he's a lousy lawyer. 




that's 'cause he's not a lawyer 

he was a businessman 

Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! 

by teacherken on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:50:58 AM EDT 


I realize that... 

(6+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

but this is a job for people with examination skills. Everytime Kohl asked an open 

ended question...it gave abu the opportunity to spout canned remarks. 




Playing to the audience... (2+ / 0-) 

He's constantly talking about what "the American people" need to know or understand. 

Arrogant bastard. 

He knows in his heart that he's effective! 

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Gonzo, I understand 

I understand. 

I understand your butt ought to be kicked right out. 

Totally incompetent. 




Anyone notice that when he was protesting 

... that it's all non-partisan... he talked only about how they handle "cases"? 

Not personnel... hmmm. 




are you joking? 

He thinks he can continue to be effective? 

I didn't think that there was room for two in Dubya's bubble world! 





The American People 

Prince Albert Glazes Over. The American People? What's That? 



Oh, Jaysus..... 

now he's talking about his "heart". This is disgusting. 

"I believe in my heart that as long as I think I am effective I should stay in my job". 

Lisa 

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Kohl: How about in 3 weeks? (14+ / 0-) 

If you're still a f-up then will you resign then? 

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Gonzo: Everday I ask myself can I continue to be effective as the leader of this 


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department, if that answer is no, I will resign. 

K: If the American people don't have confidence in you, what then? 

G: The notion that something improper happened here is "not supported" 

{hmm...interesting] 




Educate and inform American public 

"Its not supported by the documents" You didn't read the fucking documents! 




Oh, give me a scale 

for what is effective! 




Time for ur Abu signature 

find another line of work 



Criminal .. mainstream media is not broadcasting 

This is a democracy? 



BAHAHA I can't interfere so.... 

I'll have someone ELSE do it! BUWAHAHAHAHAH 





He asks himself every morning... (15+ / 0-) 

If he can still be AG. 

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Does he also stand in the mirror and say, "I'm good enough; I'm smart enough; and, 

goshdarnit, people like me." 




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I feel pretty 

oh so pretty 

so pretty and witty and gay .... 




"educate and inform the American public" 

Rove-speak for choking the public with enough crap to completely obscure the issue. 


Heschel 



"accountability"? 

His mouth should dissolve when trying to speak that word. 

HACK. 




gonzo is thinking 

I am just a nice country boy, why don't you like me. Bush likes me. 



AGAG 

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I have to know in my heart that I have to be effective (to be leader of this dept). The 

moment I believe I am not effective, I will resign as Attorney General...part of my goal 

today is to educate and inform the public. The notion that something improper 

happened here (is not accurate). ... if someone made recommendations for improper 

reasons, yes, there will be accountability. 



Kohl sucked...gonzo walked all over him 



Leahy telling audience to not use signs (3+ / 0-) 

who was putting up signs? 

I'm listening on the radio 

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yeah, what's up? 

Code Pink again? 


Heschel 



nothing seen on MSNBC......... n/t 




C-SPAN 3 

Arrgh! The server, she canna take any more, Cap'n! 

If you're having trouble getting to the Web site, you can load the stream directly in 

Windows Media Player by going to http://play.rbn.com/... 

The War of the Words: The Story of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders 

by phenry on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:50:20 AM EDT 


. 



anonymity..." 



wow, Abu G 

...lying through his teeth. He must smell the endgame. 

The Pinstripe Blog 

It can't ALL be about politics, right? 

by fromer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:50:25 AM EDT 


Lehay: talking about the crowd (6+ / 0-) 

supporters and opponents,...you are guests...if signs are being held up and are blocking 

the view, I don't care if their supporting or opposing the AG, you will be removed. 

Going to Hatch 

UGH. 

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Hatch, then Feinstein, then 10 minute break 




Can someone 

Can someone get to our guys and get a question asked about habeas corpus? Just for 

grins and giggles. 



Leahy tells audience to put down signs 

they are blocking the view for others. regardless of whether signs are proo or anti 

Gonzo 




hahaha 

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did anyone catch kohl's thin smile after abu finished blustering? it was interesting. 





Leahy telling people 

to put their signs down or be removed. Everyone, no matter what side they are on, 

should have an equal opportunity to see what is going on. 

Hatch up next, then 10 min. break. 




Hatch up next... 

time to go for a walk... 

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I would just like to take this opportunity (1+ / 0-) 

to say I'm sorry. (I'm from Utah.) 

We tried to get rid of this rimjobber. 

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Kohl is surprising me with the incision 

and careful strategy of his questions. Oh my god, Abu is committed to getting to the 

bottom of this. Hey abu, you ARE the bottom of this. There is no one any lower. You 

are it. 




It's not an issue of LOWER 

It's HIGHER. Keep digging, until we find Dear Leader and Deadeye Dick at the bottom 

of the well. That's where we have to go. 

Radarlady 

by radarlady on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:04:38 AM EDT 


LOL 




Crap Hatch 





Yeah 

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Exactly right. Higher up the pie. 

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I feel like turning down the volume. 

(0 / 0) 

I had to mute. Vapid. 



I Thought U Were Referring.... 

to the hole in Abu's seat!!! 

by serrano on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:26:53 AM EDT 


Hatch didn't look too happy earlier (3+ / 0-) 


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hatch fellating him now. 





maybe that's why he's popping his p's 





He needs to shut his Orrin Hatch! 



hatch is a joke 

and gonzo can't even sound credible answering predigested softball questions. 





Hatch: slurp slurp 




Orrin Hatch is a dipshit 

Do you make decisions based on polls? 

What a stupid question. 




Aptly Named - Senator Hatch. Here Comes 

the Hatchet job. 



lol (3+ / 0-) 

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Finally he gets an apologist... 

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talking point 

are they on talking points? 



I'm not impressed yet with the questons. But 

I'm not a lawyer. Will they get tougher and more 

specific? 





Always start with 

the set-up then go for the jugular with evidence he is lying later. 





Ugh! Hatch is up 

Time for some major suction ... 





Kohl 

Kohl (29+ / 0-) 

K: my state of wisc, we've seen evidence of efforts to influence.. docs routed through 

mr rove's office... was reported that he was to be fired but doj has not made docs 

available about this 

G: not aware about mr ? 

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K: question is was he on a list of USAs to be considered 

G: believe he was listed as someone, yes 

K: why was he taken off list? 

G: i don't recall being aware of discussions about mr ?... 

K: i'm trying to understand why he was on a list but taken off 

G: there are other people who would know that, didn't want to compromise integrity of 

investitg 

K: can you get back to me 

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G: samspon would be best person to answer why anyone was on or off the list... want 

to be very careful about going back to talk to back witnesses. 

K: we all understand you're supposed to disregard partisan... our entire judicial system 


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is called into question... confidence in you by american people shaken... over half of the 

american people beleive you should resign... low morale amongst USAs across country 

K: many americans wonder what is the rationale for you to remain in your position, can 

you explain to the people why it is so important for you to remain 

G: let me address tainted politics... six weeks before election bob ney... we could have 

waited until after the election. we don't let partisan politics play a role in the decions 

we make. we prosecuted republicans. amer people need to understande that. when 

you attack the dept you're really attacking the career professionals and that's not right. 

G: this is not about alberto gonzales, this is about doj. i look back with pride... 

protecting our children, neighborhoods... i've made mistakes but overall dept hasn't, 

worth of the dept continues, cases are still being invetig and prosecuted. all we care 

about is that justice is done. expect everyone in doj to do their job 

K: 2/3 of amer people believe USAs were fired for political reasons. over half of the 

people believe you should resign. if in a week or two... if people still feel that way, 

what would you do 

G: i have to know in my heart that i can be effective, sitting here today i believe i can. 

the moment i believe i can no longer be effective, i will resign 

K: if amer people perception is negative how does that affect your decision 

G: the notion that someithng improper happened here is not supported. i am 

committed to getting to the bottom of this. asked office of prof resp to work with office 

of insp general. of course there is going to be accountability 





Hatch should move on to shuffle-board 

"Mr. AG, Do you make decisions based on polls?" 

Der. 

The Pinstripe Blog 

It can't ALL be about politics, right? 

by fromer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:51:37 AM EDT 


Oh yeah Orrin 

keep sucking, that's good, that's good. 

-Abu Gonzales 

(5+ / 0-) 

"Everybody knows that the boat is sinkin', everybody knows that the Captain lied..." - L. 

Cohen -9.00, -8.05 

by New Mexico Dem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:51:42 AM EDT 


nad now here's hatch (6+ / 0-) 

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with the softballs. you could almost see abu sigh with relief... 






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LOL! 

I agree - his shoulders dropped a good 3 inches.... 

Lisa 




Orrin Hatch 

what a shill. 



Hatch: Do you m ake decisions 

at the JD based on the polls? You don't do you? 

AG: I make non-partisan decisions 

H: I take it whether or not it makes you happy or not. 

Man, I hate him. 

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Gonzo and Ashcroft 

by MetaGator on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:51:48 AM EDT 


BushCo is amazing 



Ashcroft 

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H: I'm gladd to see you here since we've worked rather extensively together and I've 

seen a lot of the good work you've done... 

Commence leading the witness and answering his Qs for him. 

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I never thought anyone could be worse than Ashcroft, but Gonzo does so with flying 

colors. 

Of course, I never thought any President could be worse than Nixon until George Bush. 

They found someone even more corrupt than Ashcroft. 

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I absolutely loathed John Ashcroft, but he looks like a rocket scientist compared to this 

empty headed, boot licking, right wing lackey of Bush. 



Now slow-pitching for the Repugs: Orrin Hatch (14+ / 0-) 


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"Mister Attorney General, do you make decisions at the Justice Department based on 

the polls?" 

"No, Senator." 

"No, you don't, do you?" 

Gag. 




actually, Hatch is doing the testifying 





Senator Escape Hatch at work 


Heschel 



Not the Friggin' Polls Again 

For a different perspective, check out Green Commons! 

by GreenSooner on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:51:58 AM EDT 


I thought Mormons... 

Pen Rai! 

not relying on dumbo gonzo to give the prepared answers Hatch gave him. 

"Do you make decisions based on the polls?"--Orrin Hatch 

You know, while officials of course shouldn't make decisions based on the polls, it would 

actually be less bad if this administration did. 

I always find this argument hilarious. It's dressing up ideological and partisan 

inflexibility in the clothes of courage and leadership. 

...weren't supposed to lie??? 



They still have prisons in Utah (1+ / 0-) 

M-O-O-N! That spells Iran! 

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and people convicted of crimes filling them. 

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by cskendrick on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:56:10 AM EDT 



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You obviously have never lived among them n/t 





... 

Don't blame the religion, please. 



I'm not 





They aren't. Hatch is a disgrace. 



Note to Gonzo: 

-4.50 -5.44 





Inflate or Fellate ? 

"When reality bites, bite back!" ~ The Werewolf Prophet, resident Looped-Garou of 

Prophecy Street 

by The Werewolf Prophet on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:25 PM EDT 


I can't recall if I remember if Pope is Catholic (5+ / 0-) 


(3+ / 0-) 

But I spent 20 years in Utah, and in my business dealings there I saw a much higher 

level of lying among Mormon customers and associates than I have ever seen 

anywhere. Just saying.... 

Same with Doolittle and Sampson. 

Harry Reid is one of the good ones though. 

(2+ / 0-) 

You have an inflated ego. The American People don't want you or need you. 

Enter Hatch to inflate you ego some more. 

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Not to my best recollection of my 

personal knowledge... 




I Thought I Saw 

Bear shit in the woods, but I can't remember that, either. 





I believe in my heart that he is... n/t 

The Bush Administration in one phrase: "Mistakes were made." Republicans in one 

phrase: "Dark Ages 'R Us." 

by PatsBard on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:02:46 AM EDT 


We could power Washington DC for a month 

...with all the lightning striking Gonzo for his lies. 

Heresy: the new alternative energy 




Hatch praises gonzo like Iraq war 

lots of 'good things' htat aren't being covered! 




Yeah, nobody's violated the *THIRD* amendment... 

...lately. 

(1+ / 0-) 

Is it me, or does Hatch wear a lot of face makeup? 

Or does he just naturally look like that? 

Since Bush said "We're not leaving [Iraq] while I'm the president," that means you're 

either for years of more war or you're for impeachment. Your choice. 

by Christopher on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:53:44 AM EDT 


He's actually dead. (1+ / 0-) 

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He's got Rove's hand up his ass making his lips move. 


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Hatch....all the good things that have been done. 

Hatch needs a replacement. 



Abu still has no intention of ever... 

stepping down. 

Kohl asks if he would think he can do his job if public perception remained as negative 

as it is now. 

He says he's here because he wants to educate the American people about the truth 

that he can do his job and that the facts show he's done nothing wrong. 



No, GOONzales. 





Orrin Hatch fluffs n/t 




He is a pro fluffer 




He fluffs pros or he's a pro at fluffing? 




lol! (0 / 0) 

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You don't have tenure and you'll never get it. 

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Haha, trick question. Both! 

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Rimjob with a reacharound--Hatch is up 

This guy is a bad joke. 





That's disgusting. 

And yet, not exactly inaccurate. 




Herb Kohl 

I like Herb Kohl just fine, but he asks some really stupid questions in these hearings. 

Is he an attorney? He only gets a couple of minutes to ask questions. He repeatedly 

asks these open ended questions, lets the witnesses ramble on and then doesn't do any 

sort of follow up. 

I don't agree with Oren Hatch on much, but I do have to say that he almost always 

asks really good questions. Same for Lindsay Graham. 



Creepy Hatch up - going to lob presents 

H - seen a lot of good work - can't begin to touch on the good things - your actions 

back up your words 

(torture) 

H - some don't want to go where the evidence goes 

(torture) 

(2+ / 0-) 




Wow. (1+ / 0-) 

I knew Hatch was a die-hard, but now he's making Baghdad Bob look sane. 

Btw: if you truly parse what the AG said about why the Ag's were fired some glaring 

things leap out: 

He cited as a reason for the removal of one of the USA's as "poor management" and as 

evidence of such he noted the fact the HQ had had to send a "a mediator to deal with a 

personnel matter" 

Let that sink in a sec. What AG was saying to every othe rUSA in the country is "yes 

we have this system to help you resolve HR issues at your office, but Should you ever 

actually USE that sytem; we're going to mark you down, and possibly can you for it" 

wonderful message, no? 

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hmmmmm... 

(1+ / 0-) 

Want to go where the evidence lead us...hmmm...now, who does that remind me 

of...hmmmmmm 

"Everybody knows that the boat is sinkin', everybody knows that the Captain lied..." - L. 

Cohen -9.00, -8.05 

by New Mexico Dem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:52:35 AM EDT 


Repub Glad gonzo's still here--No fooling! 

Of course they're happy--he's packing DoJ with Wingnuts & writing signing statements 

for Bush--what's not to like??? 



my first comment on this 

-8.63 -7.28 Molly Ivin : "..We want to find solutions other than killing people. Not in our 

name, not with our money, not with our children's blood." 

by OneCrankyDom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:52:39 AM EDT 


It is going to be a long day 





big committee. thugs' examination is piling up 




Is it possible? (0 / 0) 

(12+ / 0-) 

after listening to the whole thing. 

The Democrats are holding back and I want to know why ? This is not being 

done in any way or form in a professional manner, to find the real truth. This is really 

getting to be quite the Dog and Pony show with NO real oversight questions being 

asked. 

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(3+ / 0-) 

I think they are setting him up for catching him in more lies. I'm guessing they already 

have evidence from other sources. Won't come from Hatch, that's for sure. 

this hearing will adjourn end of business day. gonna run into tommorow. 

That they've designated a "hatchet man" to do the dirty work (e.g., Feingold). That 

way, the whole party doesn't come off as shrill (not that I'd mind). 


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They have not gotten to the good questioners yet 

I am willing to bet Sheldon Whitehouse breaks this open when it's his turn to crossexamine 

Gonzales. 

by jniola on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:02:08 AM EDT 


Specter: well then, if AG says its so 

it must be true 




oops, Hatch I mean 




Hatch 

by emal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:53:11 AM EDT 


Wow, 110,000 employees. YOu have it rough Abu 





hatch 

(2+ / 0-) 

Do you make decisions based on polls. 

AG..Um no, (just contradicted himself as he just told us all morning he wasn't involved 

or was minimally involved in the decisions). 

However,he fails to mention that kkKarl Rove and the ones actually making these 

decisions certainly follow the polls 

It's so hard. It's hard work. Just too much. 

(2+ / 0-) 

"can't even begin to touch all the good things" 

what a douchebag 



Can't Leahy Ask... (5+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Hatch to make with the questions already. 

(0+ / 0-) 

If Hatch doesn't believe in oversight, shouldn't he just retire. Then, he could have 


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plenty of time for... 

Wait for it... 

FISHING EXPEDITIONS!! 



he can "traipse about" 





more blacksburg wankery 





Whoee 

(8+ / 0-) 

Hatch lecturing us on proper oversight and "fishing expeditions" 

Irony is not dead. 




DID NOT Answer question 

(0+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

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"was anyone fired to influence ongoing investigation" 

did not say no 



Remember When Hatch Was Touted... 

...by the Washington punditocracy as a SCOTUS nominee who could get broad, 

bipartisan support in the mid-90s? 

I'd like to think that dog won't hunt anymore (though I wouldn't put anything past the 

Washington media). 




Hatch's next questions (15+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

1. Can you count to four for us? 

2. Does the sun come up in the east or west? 

3. George W. Bush: Great president, or the greatest president? 



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You have to travel a lot too, asks Hatch 





Hatch is going for the Libby defense... 

Gonzo had so many responsibilities that he couldn't possibly be responsible for botching 

the firings... 

Pen Rai! 



Hatch's stragedy 

Is to do most of the talking and give partial answers as Gonzo answers. 

Just listen to the suck-up 




Pootie is back!! 

Faar's been found, she's back inside, safe and sound, looking out the window. 

I'm so happy!!! 

:-) 

Now, back to the atrocity ... 

Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson 

by bumblebums on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:54:06 AM EDT 


Thank god! Happy 

(6+ / 0-) 

(29+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

to have you here with your pootie. 





I'm so glad for you! (2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 

I know exactly what you were going through, having had the same experience! 

Now, you can relax and join in on the fun! I'm sure we're going to need a diary from 

you, too! 




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Not surprising. 

After all, Alberto Gonzales is out there somewhere. I'd come home too. 




Wow, Hatch can't gulp fast enough 




Hatch 

(4+ / 0-) 



Hatch Channels Steven Colbert 

by Dotty Gale on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:56:28 AM EDT 


Did Hatch *REALLY* say that? 

"History furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil 

government." - Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence 

by Iowa Boy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:56:57 AM EDT 


Not the reason I asked for resignations. 




huh? (1+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 

Good grief, Hatch has his kneepads on and some Novocaine for his gag reflex. 

Sen Hatch: Mr. Attorney General, Do you believe that George W. Bush is a great 

president or the greatest president ever? 

He should be named Senator Hack 

Did Hatch really say that? Really? I hope that makes YouTube 'cause I won't believe 

until I see it with my own eyes. 

No, you asked for the resignations because you were interested in furthering the purge 

project. 

The real question is why was the "consensus" for the resignations reached? 

Hatch had to answer the question for him: "So the answer is no." 

Completely random VT reference.. 

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Here comes Hatch 

I need to go get my barf bag. Oh my, abu is so glad, so relieved to see Hatch. He can 

relax now. Hatch is presenting abu's testimony for him and clearly is a more surefooted 

witness. "Let me ask you once more for the record, and this is IMPORTANT." 

Jeebus, he actually provided an answer for abu: "And the answer is no, correct?" 




It's called "leading the witness." n/t 




No, it's called "testifying for the witness" 

This goes way, way beyond leading the witness. 




I stand corrected. LOLOL. n/t 




Aww Gee Isn't Gonzo Warm & Fuzzy... 



Hatch is asking "set up" questions 

remember - the Repubs coordinated with DOJ before another hearing. 




He still couldn't answer (2+ / 0-) 

Hatch's direct question about no one being fired for political reasons. He sill obfuscated. 

What a liar. 

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All the 'career' professionals 

Stop hiding behind them, you stupid twat. 

"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and 

say why not." -Robert F. Kennedy 

by PsiFighter37 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:54:32 AM EDT 


Hatch talks about how 

busy, busy, busy, busy, busy Fredo is. 

Want some more Kool Aid? 




Gonzo has noticably calmed down because Orrin is 

holding his hand 

You can see see and hear it in his voice - I bet his blood pressure has come down 30 

points just because of Orrin Hatch 



Mute button 

by phil333 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:54:43 AM EDT 


Peace. 

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Might as well get some productive work done during this Hatch-Gonzo love fest. 

How many employees at DoJ? 

What are the functions of the dept? 

Great questions, Hatch, you scumbag. 

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Might be a good time to make a sandwich right about now. 



Potty breaks during Repug questionings (1+ / 0-) 

This is silly. You work hard and have a lot of employess and you travel and then you 

have those cabinet meetings. But the American people are really really confused about 

these folks being political appointees. Please tell the dumb folks out there what your 

job is. 






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One word for Gonzo: SMARM 





Gonzo can't even give Hatch a straight answer 

H: Were any of the USA's fired for political reasons? 

G: I don't believe so, not in my recollection... 

H: So the answer is no? 

G: In my mind they were not... 





I like to see the country! 

You'll have a lot of time Gonzo - after you get out of prison. 

Or maybe you can join one of those gangs that pickup trash on the side of the road. 


Heschel 



n/t 

He can be 

The trash decent people pick up at the side of the road and dispose of in a legal 

manner. 

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. -Aldous Huxley 

by Dave925 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:06:19 PM EDT 


This is the "Presidentin' Is Hard Work" Defense 




We don't a civics lesson today, Sen. Hatch. (1+ / 0-) 

We need answers. 

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leader (1840-1904) 




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In Orrin's World, We ALWAYS Need a Civics Lesson 

...especially if it's an alternative to oversight on a GOP administration. 




oops! he said something truthful! 

I'm sure that the Whitehouse doesn't want him anywhere near them now! 





What? 

Hi full name? 

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. -Aldous Huxley 

by Dave925 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:06:48 PM EDT 


i can't get back to my post 

if you give me the full question about the name i'll answer you. ( I don't know what you 

are asking of me) 



by Sargent Pepper on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:18:37 PM EDT 


Do you like puppies and ponies? 

Thanks for your diligent questioning, Hatch 



Hatch went to an intelligence meeting 

Didn't get any though. 




I'm getting the impression here (0+ / 0-) 

that Hatch isn't very popular. 

 

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early 1960s 



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Here comes Hatch... 

I have to leave now...bathroom break. Get coffee. Brush teeth. Do bills. Play some 

solitaire. Pick between toes. Watch grass grow. 

He's the opportunity for the talking heads to say that abu G has hit a home run. 

Wham! Outta the park. 




Softball after Softball from Sen. Hatch n/t 

by The Lager Lad on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:55:10 AM EDT 


Could we say Hatch is leading the witness? 

Objection 



Hatch 

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Orrin and Alberto sitting in a tree 

K-I-S-S-I-N-G 

by ethans mom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:56:41 AM EDT 


Orrin Hatch: Ass-kissing toady. 

Loathesome little prick. 

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Such a long, long time to be gone and a short time to be there 

by Mehitabel9 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:55:32 AM EDT 


hatch: understanding is haaaaard 

please read us your tallking points 

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Hatch is in this up to his neck, Spectre bailed (6+ / 0-) 

It was the staff of Specter and Hatch that rewrote the Patriot Act. 

HATCH was the guy that the White House and DOJ would have been communicating 

with during this period. 

HATCH's emails will be showing up in any investigation 

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http://www.dailykos.com/... 



Hatch 



face it - Gonzo is just WONDERFUL! lol 




hmm 

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H: do you make decisions based on the polls? 

AG: No I don't; .. make decisions based on my best judgment; in doing my job, it will 

make people unhappy. 

H: I've seen an awful lot of good work; you can't even touch all of the good things that 

have been done; your actions (speak for your words...). Some simply don't want to go 

where the evidence does go. They are fishing for anything that will claim to back up 

their preconceived conclusions. Its unfortunate and wrong. 

Were any of these 8USAs asked to resign for (interference...) 

AG: No; not done for that reason; have 110,000 employees; we enforce the law, 

prosecute cases, we have the DEA, bureau of prisons, ATF, there are many important 

divisions that exist in the DOJ. 

H: you spend a lot of time traveling in the country, don't you? 

AG: Yes; I like to speak to the staff and let them know how important they are...I 

don't spend as much time at the WH as I used to, attend cabinet meetings. 

This is such an ass-kissing segment; smooches and love, orrin 

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Hatch goes to the briefings.. is there a Dem there also I wonder.. 



Keep tossin' them softballs, Mr. Hatch. n/t 

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, 

and begin slitting throats. -H.L. Mencken 

by Kwaidan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:55:43 AM EDT 


I luv u abu, 

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where's Rocky from salt lake, he would slam this asshole. 



Gonzo = diet aid - who needs SlimFast (1+ / 0-) 

because i'm too nauseous to eat lunch after listening to this 


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Hatch, ugh 





BATF????? 

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben 

Franklin 

by leevank on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:56:02 AM EDT 


got moved 

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Hatch, as usual is not really asking questions, he's putting words in AG's mouth. 

They're going through all the different types of jobs AG has to do and all the hard work 

he has on his plate. 

I'm not wasting my time on this apologist BS. Finger break and a cup of tea. 

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Did Gonzo just say that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is part of DOJ? 

That's the way I understood him, but it isn't. It's part of the Treasury Department. 

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Treasury lost it's law enforcement arms in the 9/11 reorg.. Secret Service went to DHS, 

BATF to DOJ. 



Thanks, I hadn't realized that (n/t) 

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben 

Franklin 

by leevank on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:02:43 AM EDT 


lifestyles of the lying an incompetent 

Hatch is a hack. "You spend a lot of time at the white house?" "a large number of 

employeees", etc. 




Hatch: I'll waste my time (2+ / 0-) 

by asking you to describe what USAs are. 

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Hatch & Gonzo sittin' in a tree... 

who thinks they're gonna make out before all of this is over? 

p.s. Don't forget to be afraid, very, very afraid. 

p.p.s. ugh. 

America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease 

to be great. ~Alexis de Tocqueville 

by Albatross on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:56:13 AM EDT 


Hatch is basically speechifying 

and playing the victim card. 




leading the witness...giving him descriptions 

Then..is that correct, Gonzo? 



career professionals 

Abu is once again trying to paint any questioning of what has been done to the Justice 

Dept. as attacking the career professionals. Just like questioning the president's war 

policy is attacking the troops. 

Shameless. 





"I'd like to help you.." 

Yeah, we knew that already, Orrin buddy. 




oh, he's unctuous (0 / 0) 

"now, you made an important distinction that makes your explanation make perfectly 

good sense" 

way to softball, orrin. 

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and now abu keeps saying "sampson, sampson, sampson," but we must have 

accountability. 





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Does anyone else hear a line from Fargo? 

William H. Macy, indignantly: "Ma'am, I'm tryin' ta help ya here!" 

Since Bush said "We're not leaving [Iraq] while I'm the president," that means you're 

either for years of more war or you're for impeachment. Your choice. 

by Christopher on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:00:33 AM EDT 


oh, he's unctuous 

"now, you made an important distinction that makes your explanation make perfectly 

good sense" 

way to softball, orrin. 

and now abu keeps saying "sampson, sampson, sampson, but we must have 

accountability." 

and now feinstein...who's idea was it to add the amendment giving him the ability to 

replace the USAs without senate confirmation. who came up with the idea? 

gonzo, of course, has no recollection 





I wonder 

I wonder how those fired republican attorneys now feel about the grand ol piece of shit 

party? 





Hatch trying to elicit 

awe-inspiring testimony about all the difficult, incredible things AG and D0J 

does...spending all his time reviewing the structure of the DoJ, rather than any goddam 

thing related to the instant case. 

fucking wankers! 




orrin... 

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...carrying water for the bush crime family since the 1990s 

by james risser on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:56:43 AM EDT 


Hatch implies general public cannot understand (5+ / 0-) 


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what us attorney do. 

Help educate them Gonzo. 

Barf. 



wer knot as smort 

As yu, Senetur Hach. Pleese edumacate us! 




Talk about leading the witness 

Hatch, why don't you just change places with him and get in the witness's chair? 




Hatch's pic should be in the legal dictionary 

under that definition. 




The playacting is so obvious 

it's there for all to see. 

Done, thank goddess. 




Is Hatch wearing kneepads? 




He doesn't need 'em. (4+ / 0-) 

He has calluses. 

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OOOOOOOOH snap n/t 




will he swallow? 


Heschel 



Hatch: Americans are stupid... 

so please Abu tell them how stupid you really are. Explain how to be unaccountable 

with appearing to be accountable ...to yourself only. Come one now Abu, I'm giving 

you an out here..babble babble babble. 





He has no problem recalling Hatch's 

questions. 

He just can't recall Democrat questions. 



It's in the official GOP script 




USA's Must Support BushCo's (wingnut) priorities. 



"Orrin Hatch" must be latin for... 

"bathroom break" 

by jdawg1077 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:57:22 AM EDT 


THAT is funny! 

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"Bend Over" (0 / 0) 

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Hatch: "Help dispell the myths..." 

that USAs are political" 

G: USA are accountalbe to the pres through me. there has to be real accountability. 

USAs should have and do enjoy independence on what cases to move forward on or 

not...we are accountable to the American people..pres is elected based on his priorities 

and policies and the USAs should support that. Obviously within each specific distrcit 

there will be needs and priorities and they ahve to balance those with national needs 

and priorities. Blah blah blah. 

Hatch: I want to give you a fuller opportunity to describe your role in the firings.. 

UGH. 




What's your favorite color.? 

I wouldn't be surprised if Hatch asked the AG "What's your favorite color? It would be 

the same as asking the softball/leading questions he's asking now. 

by Ladyhawk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:57:40 AM EDT 


Blue...No, Yellow! 

Aaaaaaaaarrrrgh! 




Can Hatch just read a script and let Abu nod? 



Good Lord! Hatch is 

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just a tool! 

"Please let me lay out a perfectly worthless set of lies you can use to cover your ass!" 




whoever bought him needs their money back (1+ / 0-) 

'cause he's completely ineffective 

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Heschel 


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Gave abu 

prostate massage with his tongue 

"you don't make decisions based on polls, now do ya?" 

then he pulls out the fishing poll but cuts no bait. 




It's important that the US attorneys 

support the policies and priorities of the President. The President is accountable to the 

American people for his policies and priorities.... 

(Except during his second term, when he can't be re-elected.) 





10 minute Break After Hatch 

looks like we'll need many more diaries at this rate. 

```` 

peace 




Feinstein first 



yes - seem that they changed the order 

earlier they said they'd take a break after Hatch 

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peace 

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Good. 10 mins. to shower. nt (4+ / 0-) 





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Keeps blaming Sampson. 





Glad He's Not MY Boss--Cowardly Weasel n/t 



Hatch - The American People Are Confused 

They hear that United States Attorneys are political appointees. Help the stupid 

American People understand." 



Hatch sucks Abu's dick 

Sorry, I've been reading too much Rude Pundit. 




So, has he loosened up his tie yet? 




Can't wait for Feingold 

saying "May I remind you sir, you are under oath?" 



Hatch 1st tried to get Gonzo to say he's not 

accountable to American peeps . . . five minutes later, Gonzo goes on and on about 

how he's accountable to American peeps. 





"I just relied on Mr. Sampson" (3+ / 0-) 

the jerk 

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Hatch: Gonzo, We Know We're Both Wonderful 



Hatch is asking us to think 

that Rove, Meirs, Domenici, Bush, and Cheney were interested in specific names, a list. 

But, somehow, Gonzales was not. 





Gonzo: even has to throw sampson under the bus 

when Hatch the slurper questions him 




Shorter Abu 

Sampson did it 



Think Gonzo will come back from the break? 



10 min break 

then Feinstein 

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Hatch has already decided... (2+ / 0-) 

that many people just don't want to see the evidence that totally shows that the Justice 

Dept. hasn't done anything improper. We must be jumping to conclusion. 

Hatch asked Gonzales to explain all of his huge responsibilities. Sets him up to edify 

Americans about the US Attorneys since the term "political appointees" keeps myths of 

alive that the positions are political ones. 

Gonzales explains the role of Attorneys as they carry out the priorities of the 

administration but follow the laws and don't pursue things based on politics. 


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How's it feel Orrin, to have your nose way up 

Gonzo's a**? And consequently way up Bush'e and Rove's as well? 



going to DiFi then a 10 min break 




Come on DiFi! 

Time to hit him hard. 




Difi up now 




Feinstein is up 

by angryandy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 10:59:02 AM EDT 


Thank God!!!! 

Hatch is done. I couldn't take much more of the ass-kissing. 





gooooooooooooooooooo Diana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 



Best quote from Mr. Hatch... (8+ / 0-) 

"My time is up." 

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Di Fi - On Hi Fi! 



My senator is PISSSSSED!!!! nt 





O.k. 

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Opps no break 




time is up hatch 





Abu: "Just because 

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Feinstein -- who's idea was it to change the law in the Patriot Act --- yeahhh, finally. 

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time us up hatch, kindly remove your lips from the attorneys ass. 

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I delegate doesn't mean I abdicate" 

What a putz. Then you ARE involved in this fiasco? 




Sen hatch after Feinstein we can take a break (4+ / 0-) 

and you can wipe the jizz off your chin. 


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We seem to be affecting the MSNBC feed now... 





Phew 

-4.50 -5.44 

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No more Hatch. Feinstein up. 





Feinstein up now. 





She just asked gonzo who approved to sneak in 





so how many 

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the amendment so that USAs could be appointments without Senate confirmation. 

He said he supported the idea, because he doesn't think the Senate should have 

anything to do with the Justice Dept, but that he didn't think he was the one 

responsible for the decision. 

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I Don't recalls has he give Feinstien so far...I count 15 ... 




Going to Feinstein now THEN a 10 min. break 

Good. I don't want to go to break on Hatch's questions. 

Go Dianne! Whose idea was the ammendment that was inserted into the Patriot Act, 

without telling anyone? 




great fuckin question (9+ / 0-) 


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It's all Sampton's fault...... 

Gonzo delegated. 

Gonzo shld be asked to resign just for that incompetence. (even tho it is not true) 



Shorter Abu -- Mr. Sampson, meet Mr. Bus 




1 more "I don't recall" n/t 




Feinstein --Wow -- hitting with the sledgehammer 




Gonzo: I don't remember who came up with the idea 

to give us more power by allowing us to go around the Senate 




1 more "I don't have any recollection" n/t 




Gonzo just can't remember a damn thing. 

And time any actual questions come up. Can't remember. 




Too bad, Abu (1+ / 0-) 

That's not your damn choice. 

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Fucker. 

And stop saying you don't recall. Liar. 

"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and 

say why not." -Robert F. Kennedy 

by PsiFighter37 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:00:37 AM EDT 


ASIMBAGIRL,,,,, 

Why not wait until after the break to post your diary? 

We'll finish up here, since we're going to need several diaries to cover this hearing. 





"It Appears That...." 

You're running a f***ing DoJ, Fredo. Don't give us "it appears that" on matters that 

you're supposed to be leading on. 

(Love DiFi's use of "decider" btw!) 




DiFi 

Whose idea was it to change the law to replace USA's without Senate confirmation (also 

pointed out how the amendment was sneaked into the bill) 

by ethans mom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:00:43 AM EDT 


Whose idea was it to give AG 

power to replace USAs w/o Senate confirmation? 

"I don't recall." 



Hatch to Abu G 

Do you like syrup in your pancakes? 

WTF? 

by dan in sd on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:00:45 AM EDT 


She went for it immediately (3+ / 0-) 

whoo hoo ... 

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Feinstein: 

"whose idea was it to change the law to add, in conference, w/o sharing it with this 

committee, to replace AG's w/o this committee's confirmation?" 

AG: I don't know - but I support the law. 

no "recollection of the mechanics" of the law change. 




Yes, Di, yes 

whose idea to amend Patriot Act? 

Abu: I don't recall 




"I have no recollection" 




Dianne Fienstein asking about Patriot Act 



Next!!! 

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does that count towards "I don't recall" in the pool? 

his blood pressure is back up again 

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Are you the Decider?..lol 

Who was the Decider???????????? 



LOL! (3+ / 0-) 

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Feinstein: I don't know if you were the "decider" 

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can't remember anything incriminating 





even if you believed his bullshit 

what does that say about the heads of each department? they're all playing tetris and 

eating cheetos while their lackeys pick up their slack? sounds like the bush 

administration - but i'm still more inclined to believe they all conspired to can these 

people. 



I don't recall... 

how I approved that little ammendment. 





GO FEINSTEIN!!!!! 

GO AFTER ARLEN TOO on the amendment to replace AG without confirmation!!!! 


anonymity..." 



Di Fi sticks a fork in 

Whose idea was this? 

Re: His new ability to appoint AGs. 

Good question. His answer? 

I have no recollection. 

Sure, pal. Sure. 

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are you "The Decider"? haha (7+ / 0-) 


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Dear Decider 

Bush is going to be pissed that someone else think s they are the decider. 

I wonder what a Bush tantrum in the Oval Office looks like? Does he go straight for the 

binky, or does he beat up a teddy bear first, then get the binky? 



Go..Feinstein.... are you the decider or not? 

who decided to by-pass Senate approval for attorney appointments 



Feinstein gets it. 

WHO WAS THE DECIDIER? 

hahahaahaha! 





finally 

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somebody asks about the sneaky Patriot Act power grab 

"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to 

concentrate on." --George W. Bush 

by rioduran on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:01:29 AM EDT 


Feinstein's first question is a good one 

Who gave the goahead to get around the Senate to Spector's staff to put in the Patriot 

Act? 





She called Abu the "decider" (4+ / 0-) 

we know that bush is the "decider" 


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The Indecider, maybe 




Feinstein up... 

who's idea was it to change the law... to add in conference without sharing with any 

member of this committee to allow him to hire attorneys without confirmation by 

Senate. 

He doesn't recall who's idea that was. 



Go Senator Feinstein! 

Watch Gonzo twitch! :) 

America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease 

to be great. ~Alexis de Tocqueville 

by Albatross on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:01:39 AM EDT 


"Oh, that statement." 



Gonzo doesn't even know what he wrote 

in his own written Statement! 




heh 

"Attorneys are accountable to the President.. through me." ...through kyle sampson.. 

through monica goodling.. through harriet miers.. 



Were You The Decider? 

Who was the Decider? 

Love it 

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DF: were you the decider on this? (3+ / 0-) 

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staff...the decisions of staff...then I made my decision 

he asks to see what she's reading from 




Oh, the written statement! 

Oh, yeah, that one. Sorry. forgot. 




"Who was the decider"? 

Well, doesn't everybody know who the Decider is? 

Eco: -4.88 / Soc: -5.38 

by Absit invidia on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:01:54 AM EDT 


DiFi has been outstanding on this issue 

She's generally a DLC Democrat, but she has nailed Gonzo and others on this 



DiFi: I have essentially 3 questions 

Mr AG; Let me go backk, whose idea was it to change the law in a amendement 

conveyed by your staff to Sen Spector's staff on or about 11/15/05 to add in 

conference without sharing it with any member of this committee...which gave you the 

ability to replace USAs without confirmation... 

Abu: I don't recall. I don't recall genesis. I did support the change in the law - not to 

avoid senate involvement- b/c I don't like the judiciary deciding whose on my staff... 

DiFi; so you approved? 

Abu: NO that's not what I'm saying, I don't have a recollection... 

DiFi My time is short. I'm very confused. Were you the decider on this list or not? Your 

comments yesterday say 'I did not make decisions about who should or should not 

resign'; today you say differnt things,..Who was hte decider. 

Abu: I accept the recommendations made by the staff. I amd the decider (jesus) what 

are you reading from? 

DiFi: [tells him] 

This is one of the problems is that all of this has been constant equivication 




DiFi asks "who's the decider?" (0 / 0) 

Good question! 

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Dum, Dum, Dum, Dum, - Who's The Decider? 



Feinstein's nailing him -- 

...got him tongue-tied! 




1 more "I don't recall" n/t 




Shorter Feinstein - "Were you lying then or are 

you lying now Mr. Atty General?" 




He's yelling his answers at her! 

He was actually yelling at her! Who the fuck does he think he is? This at least the 4th 

time I've seen him yelling at Democratic Senators. 





and interrupting her as well 

DiFi is holding her own - not phased by Gonzo's aggressive demeanor. 

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peace 




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Feinstein: Who was "the decider?" 

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I thought the Chimper 'n' Chief was "the decider." LOLOLOL. 


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"this has been constant equivocation" 

pardon u 4 stating the obvious, Di 

Abu=pwn3d 




i accept full responsibility 

until that actually means something. then I won't recall again. 





she's referring to YOUR OWN WRITTEN STATEMENT 

and you don't recall what you JUST SUBMITTED IN WRITING YESTERDAY??? 

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 

Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D. 

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST. 

by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:02:39 AM EDT 


He's supposed to be the most competent? n/t 




But He Doesn't Recall Writing It! n/t 



That's because Rove wrote it n/t 





I love it. Feinstein throws invoke "The Decider". (10+ / 0-) 

Ouch. 

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Throws? 

I'm slappy today. Drunk with Feinstein awesomeness. 



NOW we come to it 

Feinstien Just dropped the "who snuck this clause in "? question 

and AG gonzo is getting all stammery and Amnesiac 

Now Fienstien's hitting him on the "are you in charge or a puppet" and a little jab at 

Bush with the "are you he decider or not" 

And Now Unbelievably Gonzo is now saying he can't recall his WRITTEN STATEMENT he 

submitted yesterday...in fact he's up to 8 "I don't recalls" on this answer 




LOL! Sums up the repukes! 

all stammery and Amnesiac 




I'll bet after this he won't recall 

where he left his car in the parking lot. 




Gonzo is an idiot--can't recall his written state 

statement of yesterday! 





Big mistake (1+ / 0-) 

"I don't recall..." 

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is horrible for him today. Wasn't he coached better than this? 




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He's just not that smart--like all of BushCo 

A bunch of C- students given the keys to power... 





When is a decider not a decider? 

Answer: In my mind I don't recall. 



Jeez this is a piece of work 



Feinstein...you made the decision to fire 

Gonzo...I made the decision without ever looking at performance reports. 



"I don't recall" again 

I made the decision, I don't recall when, even though when is not specifically important 

right now. 




Gonzo: I made the decisions without looking 

at the performance reports 

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AG: I made the decision n/t 

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They must drink forgetful juice over in the (5+ / 0-) 

executive branch because every single one of these idiots can't seem to remember 

anything when they walk into the Capitol. 


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Mr. Mercer - Our guy from Montana 





time for #5? 




I think,,, 

we're trying to make it to the break,,,right after DiFi. 





that's wrong! 

ohreally? 

uh i don't recall 





Dang, if he squirmed any harder 

he'd fall right out of his chair. 




does gonzo not havehis (5+ / 0-) 

statement in front of him? oooh....feinstein's struck a nereve as well. 

pinning the decision on gonzo - 

he admitted calling senator kyl? 

dianne asks if he made the decisions to fire without ever looking at the performance 

reports 

he said yes 

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"You made these decisions without looking 

at the performance reports?" "That's correct." 



Constant equivocation 

Yes, DiFi. You got it. 

Oh, my enter strings -- where's Joshua Bell? 

F: You made the decision to fire those attys? 

G.: I made the decision (finally spits it out). 




Oh god damn! Just answer the question! 




She gotcha Gonzo n/t 



asdf 

Go Feinstein 

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Can we make it to the break? 

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We are short volunteers,,,can we gut this one out until the break? It's right after DiFi. 





Gonzo constantly interrupts Feinstein...jerk (1+ / 0-) 




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Feinstein making Melted Abu for lunch. 

She's making me hungry. 


leader (1840-1904) 



Turtle Update: Stephanie Colburtle in 3rd! 

http://www.greatturtlerace.com/ 





I'm going for purple lightning! 




I'm a Stephanie Colburtle fan myself! 





If Gonzo were smart he'd plea out instead of 




Gonzo: I wanna see what my people told you 




Gonzo's trying to fluster DiFi. 




Absolute wrong idea (3+ / 0-) 

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trying to continue this crap performance on the stand. 

before you ask me questions about it (so I can make sure that I don't contradict them) 

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"I don't know what you're looking at." blah blah blah. 

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I'm no Feinstein fan but that type of strategy is idiotic with her. 




eh...? 

good luck with that!!! 




This is too funny 

For someone who is (and has been) committing crimes, he sure is feisty. I wonder if 

something was slipped into his morning cup of coffee. 



Holding on to the 30% authoritarian base.... 

The Bushies cannot appear weak or they will start eroding the base. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Gonzo is especially aggressive towards the female questioners 

today 

That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? 

by sommervr on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:29:06 AM EDT 


Whoa 

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Throwing Sampson under the bus big time. It just sounds like "Mr. Sampson...Mr. 

Sampson...Mr. Sampson...Mr. Sampson...Mr. Sampson..." 




Boy, this guy "doesn't recall" much, does he 

You'd think, being a top lawyer an' everything, you'd be able to recall stuff. 

DiFi's always good in these kinds of grilling sessions. She tends to read up. 




I don't think he went to the prestigious (3+ / 0-) 

Regent University, though. 

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Feinstein struck a nerve 

Abu call her "sir," and asked to see what it was she was reading from. Now he is 

chasizing her for not reading his ENTIRE statement aloud. Now he doesn't recall, 

doesn't recall. Hopeless. First he says he made the decision; then under further 

questioning he says he doesn't recall making the decision. Unfrikkinbelievable. He 

doesn't believe; he doesn't recall; wants to see what it is that DiFi is reading from; 

wants a copy so he can see what she is reading. Guess he doesn't remember this from 

his study sessions. 




How can he survive this? 





Leahy - I sent you a note telling you 

about these interviews so you wouldn't be surprised 




"I sent you a letter on this... 

...so you wouldn't be surprised." 

Deflated that "I don't recall" in an instant! 




Ha HA 

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Leahy is handing it to him one cheek at a time. 




What an Embarrassment! (9+ / 0-) 

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How he is not dying from embarrassment right now I have no idea. Wow, I would never 

want to show my face in public. Incompetent doesn't even begin to describe just how 

pathetic and ridiculous this man who is the Attorney of the People of this country looks 

here. Wow....just Wow. 

How can anyone who works under this guy actually want to is beyond me. Having this 

loser as your boss. Wow! 


04/19/2007 01:54 PM 

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It's Not About Looking Good On TV Any More... 

It's about staying out of the clink. 

Under these conditions it hardly matters how bad you look running up a big score of I 

Don't Recalls. 

Gonzo & Co. are all lame ducks anyway; they don't have to worry about winning any 

more elections. So it's time instead for hunkered-down hard-core legal defense... 

There's something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? -- V. 

by angry blue planet on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:15:25 AM EDT 


Difi: "You made the decision to fire on 12/7"? 

I'm not prepared to say on that day... 

I made the phone call...I don't recall...I don't recall when the decsion..I made the 

decision.. 

DiFi And your testimony is taht you made these decisions w/o looking athte 

performance reports 

Abu: That is correct. That would be one of many factors... 




AG "Phone calls were made on that day." 

DiFi: (chuckles politely.) 

by kck on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:06:17 AM EDT 


Oh, SNAP! 

Leahy: If you didn't do your damn homework, asshole, that's your damn problem. 

Hehehe. 

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Fredo complains that he doesn't 

know what DF is reading from. 


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Lehey points out that he sent these materials so AG would not be surprised. 



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HAMMER! 



It is hammer time 

Lam rocked as a USA. Can't wait to hear how he responds. 



Gonzales keeps saying 

"Evaluations are given appropriate weight." 

Feinstein should ask: "Would appropriate weight be ZERO weight? Because that's what 

you're saying. You said you didn't even look at them." 





new thread up. 

Live Blog #5; Gonzales Hearing 

Unrec this one on your way out. 




"i delegated to mr sampson coordination 

of this process" 

follow up still to come: 

1. what process? (it sure as shit isn't EARS) 

2. what scope? (+7 USatty jurisdictions, simultaneously) 

3. why consolidated pseudo EARS within the time frame? 




DiFI,,, 

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citing Lam's outstanding record. Ooooohhhh,,,that's gotta hurt. 





GO BABY! GO BABY! GO BABY! (0+ / 0-) 

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by DrKurtG on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:07:41 AM EDT 


04/19/2007 01:54 PM 

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Leahy reminds him 

that he sent abu a letter regarding the pages from the transcript that would be 

referenced so he wouldn't be surprised. Abu clearly can't remember reading this. He 

must have missed this during his prep sessions. Hearing naked words read back to him 

really throws him off. He's so accustomed to lob balls. Little creep. 




Like watching a singer who can't sing 

Embarrassing! 




Thank you Senator 

by bam bam on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:07:49 AM EDT 


did anyone look at the attorney's 



feinstein is reading 



Can't focus on that? 


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I am still laughing at that response (audio only, must have looked great). 

evaluations before firing them. He doesn't recall. 

Feinstein rattling off Carol Lam's accomplishments... amazing... praise from numerous 

organizations and officials. 

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lam's sterling resume; abu is blinking like a motherfucker! 

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That was your fucking justification for firing her! 

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After months, Prince Albert claims he can't (0+ / 0-) 

remember the date he approved the firings. I mean, stop right there and fire him. 




04/19/2007 01:54 PM 

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Feinstein 

F: I have 3 questions; Whose idea was it to change the law, amendment, by you staff, 

Moschella to Specter's staff on or about 11/15/05, to add in conference without sharing 

with commitee, to replace USAs without senate confirmation 

I don't recall the genesis of the idea; it appeared, thinking, it was about 2004; I 

(support the law); 

F: so you approved it (in the manner it was conveyed)? 

AG: No, I don't have a recollection.. 

F: I'm confused, unsure, of whether you were the decider on the list. Your written 

comments say I did not make decisions; now you say I accepted the resignations, made 

the decisions, who made the decisions. 

AG: I am the AG, I make the decisions, can I see what (you are referring to). 

F: in writing you say you did not make the decisions, this is one of the problems. All 

of this is constant equivocation. 

AG: you didn't read all of my statement; sampson - during the updates, I did not make 

decisions on who should or should not resign. I don't recall saying (do this or do that). 

I accepted the (list). 

F: you are prepared to say you made the decision to fire on that day, 12/7. 

AG; Mr. battle made calls that day, I called Senator Kyl. I don't recall exactly when... 

F: you made the decision without looking at the performance report. 

AG: (yes), one of many factors. 

F: mercer, who was in charge of the process, in his transcript... 

AG: i don't believe he was in charge 

F: he wasn't in charge of the EARS report? 

AG: Battle was director of exec. office... 

F: let me give you a question, page 43 of the transcript. (staff interview of the 

transcript) 

AG: can I see it, I haven't seen it. 

F: (reads the transcript) referring to the list of USAs, "nobody jumps out at me, and I 

put the list away". Did anybody that was involved..in the group of attorneys..look at 

the reports prior to putting them on the list. 

AG: (I wouldn't know? - they were put on the list for not doing a good job). 

F: lam - ranked one of the top ten. she was told by Comey that he was satisfied with 

her prosecution strategy for gun crimes, 

(crap...player cuts out again...) 



i wish i had a dollar 

for every time he says "i dont' recall" 

by betsyross on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:14:45 AM EDT 


That was so delicious... (0+ / 0-) 

I don't think I'll be hungry for lunch today. 

Bust out, Senator F. 

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'All is fine on the Western front" 

Gonzo has to take on Carol Lam after that 

Saying he and we have to look at bigger picture - guns and immigration is why Lam 

had to go 

Riiiiight. 



Feinstein best yet best question-who's idea was 

it to bypass the senate on USA appointments in the Patriot Act. No answer. I hope they 

get it. 




Recess! n/t 

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10 min break now 




Abu Please STOP 

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Stop...you look like a stupid idiot. Do yourself a favor stop....get out of here. NO One 

respects you here...don't you get it...you look like a fool. You will never be able to 

perform your job after this hearing. (unless that is what kkKarl is hoping) 



Stop...Don't...Stop...Don't...Don't Stop (0 / 0) 

Abu is almost too painful to listen to. If he had a story to stick to, it would be one 

thing. But he contradicts himself sentence by sentence. 

Still, this is a wonderful day. 

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It's an awful day 





Dianne now brings up Issa and Sensenbrenner 

He is caught out. 



The Follow-up Question Feinstien needs to ask 




R.I. Senator is supposed to deliver K.O. n/t 

This sentence has threee erors. 

by MouseOfSuburbia on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:13:19 AM EDT 


Phone Calls Were Made, Mistakes Were Made.. 



Is the AG under oath today? 

by flipflopper on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:13:42 AM EDT 


yes n/t (0 / 0) 


(0 / 0) 

because this man was ever confirmed as AG of the United States. 

That's his tory and he's sticking to it. Guns and immigration 

"Mr Gonzales is it just a coincidence that You started having problems with Ms. Lam's 

record on prosecuting immigration cases, at almost exactly the same time as the 

Republican national party had decided to make Illegal Immigration its central campaign 

theme for the 06 elections?" 

"Was it your sober , professional judgement that arresting illegal immigrants was more 

important to the Safety of the American people than prosecuting corrupt congressman 

and breaking up violent street gangs?" 

"You also stated mr. Bogden was fired for not pursuing enough obscenity cases. Can 

you explain why at this time when the country is engaged in a War on terror, and a 

high profile target for violent extremists of all stripes, you believe these kinds of cases 

should have been given priority?" 

But if bad things "were done" Sampson did them... 

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Thank you n/t 



Never mind. He is UNDER OATH. 



"I don't recall" count approx 16 so far n/t 




asdf 




Translation: She did a good job But... 



Four Years? 



asdf 

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After Feinstein points out the increase in illegal immigration prosecutions under Lamm, 

Gonzo still says that they had concerns about her performance. What a dick. 

She got our man, the "Duke" and she had to pay for that--especiall since she was 

probably going to keep after his other partners in crime in sunny CA... 

It seems like he was insinuating that Carol Lam's departure was also because she 

served "her 4 years". That was shady. 

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I find it annoying that good lines of questioning get cut off due to time constraints. 




Me too. n/t (0 / 0) 

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n/t 

they need to coordinate their lines of questions. 





Miss Blue: attention 

would you please contact me 

by pitbullEmily on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:15:45 AM EDT 


Has anyone asked Gonzales yet... 

Has anyone asked AG: 

"If you are having such trouble recalling, do you not have access to notes you made 

when you fired these people? Did you make any notes at all. If you did make notes, 

where are they? If you did not, why not?" 

Steven Joseph :) 

First GORE, then Reverse RosCOE! :) (Richardson Clinton Obama Edwards) 

by StevenJoseph on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:17:01 AM EDT 


Bush is a complete moron for not throwing... 

this lame excuse for a lawyer under the bus long before this. What happened to Bushes 

widely advertised political comeback? This looks more like the oil slick that must have 

leaked from the Titanic for months after its sinking? 

The only theory Bush and Rove could be working on is that if the Senate is busy 

listening to the crap this guy is serving up they aren't zeroing in on Rove's involvement. 

Gonzo also must know where a good deal of the bodies are buried. 

I told you the dopes are going to inherit the earth anyway - Diz Moore 

by Newspeak101 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:19:56 AM EDT 


How bad does cspan suck when they will only 

show this on the internet, and of course its not working for me. 

by nickabood on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:24:10 AM EDT 


Holy Crap, ME TOO!! (0 / 0) 

I work nights so I am home right now. For some reason, CSPAN3 is conveniently 

broadcasting CSPAN2 on two stations vice having the AG hearing. I have COMCAST 

Digital in northern va. 

Anyone else? 

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LOL! 

Who was the "decider"? 

-4.50 -5.44 





Did Feinstein really ask that? 




:-) 

Yep 

-4.50 -5.44 





Yup. 

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this issue from the start. 




She deserves some pos. airtime on TDS 

tonight just for that. 

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by Dems2004 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:02:03 AM EDT 


Thanks, catte 

I'm on dail up and it slows down around 200. 





Patriot act 

Feinstein: 

Who’s idea for Tollman addition to Patriot act? 

Gonzales: 

I have no recollection. 

How convenient. 



things happens 

mistakes were made, I can't recall. 



Is anyone impeached yet? 

just checking... 

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If you want to be added to the list for continual live blog coverage, leave a comment so 

indicating 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

Read more... 


Shootings. 







Read more... 










right now." 


Amazon 


Powell's 

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Sign me up 

I will serve at the pleasure of the blog. 

by Uniter on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:18:05 AM EDT 


I don't suppose I'll be needed, though. 



Don't be too sure 




Hello live blooger #17 

Thanks! 




I've got 7 ready 

(6+ / 0-) 

These are moving fast and filling up fast. 

(2+ / 0-) 

just awaiting 6 so I can get the link back in it. 

by jancw on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:19:28 AM EDT 


I've got it ready to go 

I don't know if I can give you a link before it's published, though. 





Put me in if you need me 

Don't think you will need another volunteer but happy to jump in if needed. 





You'll be #18 (1+ / 0-) 

If he's still standing by then 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 



(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 






Read more... 



APRIL 25th! 




down! 


Baghdad 

... Elections 

Precarious 


APRIL 24, 2007 





WATCH NOW! 


CDs! 

Read more... 


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pls remove reuters feed link 

I just checked it again & it does not seem to work 

I looked for a working Reuters feed - but was unable to find one. 

```` 

peace 




I never use my diaries 

so will be more than happy to provide for liveblogging if needed. 

I don't know how to do a diary, though, so I'd better go and cram, just in case! 

by Loquatrix on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:29:31 AM EDT 


Feinstein... 

abu wants to take her on...Voice goes up to terminal wedgidectomy level. 




Hatch 

(9+ / 4-) 



TR'd because 

(10+ / 0-) 

sure must have loved whatever flavor of dick lube Abu put on this morning 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

it adds no value to the discussion. 

by think blue on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:24:15 AM EDT 


OVER RULED (1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

It wouldn't be tolerated if the genders were different (e.g. if Sen. Dole was questioning 

Gonzales instead of Hatch) 

It would be justifiably condemned if seen on a right wing blog about Democratic 

senators and used as evidence of their general hatefulness. 

In other words, no double standards because of ideological sympathy. 

Hatch's behavior is worthy of the comment. 

I guarantee 100% the impeachment/resignation (in disgrace) of Cheney&Bush. I am the 

Hellhound of Impeachment and I WILL prevail. 


04/19/2007 02:39 PM 






by Sam Seder 




April 22nd! 



Candidates 

Read more... 

Classifieds 


today) 








Read more... 



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by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:36:08 AM EDT 


Feinstein: I don't think you were the Decider 

My question is, who WAS the Decider? 

Fredo can't keep up! Dianne looks pained. 

Peace. 



Haha 





Testifying.. 

(13+ / 0-) 

Feinstein: Ok, now that Orrin's done worshipping you all over with his tongue, please 

allow me to cut you bad with ur own knife 

that he made the decision without looking at performance reports. 

Performance reports only one factor. 




How the hell can you decide 

whether to fire somebody if you don't even pretend to care if they're doing their job or 

not? 

That's not good management, and when you're dealing with LAWYERS, it's not even a 

remotely good idea. 



I'd ask - what are the factors? 

if answers "I don't recall," ask if he can name even one person or group of persons, 

together, who can answer the question. 

I get the vibe some sort of ecstatic communal decisionmaking experience, perhaps a 

prayer meeting or an Ouija board, was used. 

Governance by seance. 




Diane (24+ / 0-) 

is pressing hard. 

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(1+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Gonzo is "Buh, buh, buh, can I see what you're reading from?" 

He's getting rattled. 




lol 

(37+ / 0-) 

"Wait, I submitted a written statement? Fuck, why don't people warn me about these 

things?!" 





LMFAO 



haiiiiilariousss 



do not uprate the following pic at req of poster! 

Impeach 'em all, let the Hague sort them out. 

by netguyct on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:26:24 AM EDT 


But of course 



Maybe Kyle wrote it. (0 / 0) 


(5+ / 0-) 

Well that would take all the fun out, wouldn't it? 

(6+ / 0-) 

The guy won't last another 3 hours. He gonna pull some major shenanigans. 

killing dialup folks following the live blog 

(0 / 0) 

he doesn't remember what's on the statement that HE supposedly wrote, or what's in 

the WaPo article that he ALSO supposedly wrote, just a few days ago. 

Well, asshole, that's what happens when you tell lies all the time. Eventually you can't 

keep them straight. 

Gonzo doesn't use (or know how to?) email. 

You have to be able to write those, too. Oh, . . . wait. 

As a minor "decider," he only passes on information to "the Major Domo Decider." 

by btyarbro on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:51:39 PM EDT 


(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Quick! Alberto, go to Plan B! 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut down to prevent damage to 

your country." 

by ArgusRun on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:04:05 AM EDT 


No pics please n/t 

Jesus is a hippie (econ -9.13/social -5.28) REDEMPTION 

by viriginia liberal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:04:49 AM EDT 


Sorry! 

(11+ / 0-) 





Would you like to invite 

Some troll rates to get it out of there? We'll pile on extra love in your other comments. 




Go ahead, but for the record, i was unaware (19+ / 0-) 

of the rule. 

(13+ / 0-) 

(24+ / 3-) 

(6+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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OK, but put it up in another thread and we'll rec 

TRing now... 





He should just take the 

photo out of his flikr account and the link will be dead. He probably doesn't deserve 

the TRs. 

"I am awash in goddesses!" 

by Marc in KS on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:19:27 AM EDT 


He asked to be TR'ed 


Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that 

take our breath away.- not George Carlin 



I know, 

(2+ / 0-) 

but he probably didn't know that he can just delete the picture from the flikr 

account and all would be well. 

TRs persist. It's a shame to do that for an honest mistake. 




I deleted it, but it still is showing up. 

Any suggestions? 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut down to prevent 

damage to your country." 



Reload the page? (2+ / 0-) 

It should be gone. 

(4+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 


(5+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 



04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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I tried that. I even got the address from 

the pic in the comment and tried going to it in another browser and 

it doesn't go to the image. 

Is it still showing for everyone else? 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut down to 

prevent damage to your country." 



Nope. 




Great. Thanks! n/t 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut 

down to prevent damage to your country." 



Still up 

by bethincary on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:54:37 AM EDT 


I think it has something to do with the browser 

(1+ / 0-) 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut 

down to prevent damage to your country." 



Since the TR thing doesn't seem to be working too 

fast, I'll also delete in Flickr. 

(2+ / 0-) 

I get the broken link thing. 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut down to prevent damage 

to your country." 



thank you... (2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

cache, because it was up on mine for a while, but now it is 

showing as a broken link. 

I just removed my TR and rec'd it. much appreciated! 

(1+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

The moment there is suspicion about a person's motives, everything he does 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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becomes tainted - Gandhi 


by kriser on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:30:14 AM EDT 


Just removed my TR and recced, too 

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that 

matter." Dr. ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963. 



Only because you asked nicely... 

-5.13, -6.31 

Damn! I was hoping to have the least offensive 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut down to 

prevent damage to your country." 





Don't TR it. 




Do you remember... 

Thanks ArgusRun :) 

hidden comment ever. 

Thanks, by the way. 

A non-TR TR. I don't recall remembering TR'ing ArugsRun. 

(2+ / 0-) 

Just take the photo out of your flikr account. 

every being aware of the rule? 

(2+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 




I have no recollection of being made aware of (11+ / 0-) 

the rule, but I take full responsibility for the improper posting! 





(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Please, no pics 

Kills dialup 

Are you sure your subordinate didn't do it? 


"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. 

ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963. 



I have accepted his resignation, but let me say 

"A problem has been detected and Bush has been shut down to prevent damage 

to your country." 



I don't recall ever remembering 

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of 

doubt." -- Bertrand Russell 

by Boston Boomer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:23:01 AM EDT 


funniest sub thread of the live blog 









Please, no pictures (8+ / 0-) 

You were just following good advice, right? 

that I did not ask for it. As his superior I am ultimately resonsible for his 

actions. He serves at my pleasure. 

Regardless, let me state that he acted in good faith and I am proud and grateful 

for his service. 

that I was ever aware of that rule. However, I may have at one time been aware of 

the rule if that is what the record indicates. 

(10+ / 0-) 

on behalf of all of us on dial up. 





(7+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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recommended because it's great 

but yes; NO PICTURES in liveblog threads. 





Poster requests TR 

Will repost elsewhere later. 

Give him some love in other comments 




not necessary 

these liveblog threads are tearing through...no time for it to really be an issue. 

that said: NO PICTURES! 

: p 





No pictures is the rule, but 

this one is very funny. I'd save it for another thread. 




please don't uprate the pics 

for the sake of the dial up Kogs. 

```` 

peace 




Can you just take the image (3+ / 0-) 

out of your flikr account? 


(6+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Dialup can load a broken link as fast as text. 

(7+ / 0-) 

(12+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 




04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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recced to counter tr's 

i know they wew asked for but are no longer needed as the pic has been removed 



by waitingforvizzini on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:49:07 PM EDT 


At Best!!!! 

Imcompetent, incompetent, incompetent. That's the very very very best that can be 

said about this CRONY. It's fucking "Brownie" in the Justice Department. 

"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and 

could never have existed if labor had not first existed." Abe Lincoln 

by mdgarcia on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:04:12 AM EDT 


He's not THAT stupid 

He is lying, lying, lying for Bush and Rove. 

You can be sure that Rove made these decisions with Bush's approval. 

"It's the planet, stupid." 

by FishOutofWater on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:07:18 AM EDT 


That's the thing... 

how can Lam be fired after her accomplishments...while this lying, amnesiac, sack of 

shit...while the one who (if you believe him...big IF) who ran the DO fucking J with a 

vacuum of leadership, management...the one who celebrates the triumph of 

incompetence gets a pass? 

Fuck that! 

(7+ / 0-) 




Equivocation! Thank you. 

Equivocation is the misleading use of a word with more than one meaning (by glossing 

over which meaning is intended at a particular time). 



it's Congressional for "bullshitting" (eom) 




No, I didn't look at the performance reports (7+ / 0-) 

I just listened to Kyle 

(0 / 0) 

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(1+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 


(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Love to see a stress meter 

from HacK to Finestein, off the charts 



the big question 

How can someone be said to be competent for a position like AG if they can make high 

level hiring and firing decisions when they a) don't talk to the person who is being fired, 

b) don't talk to any of that person's staff, c) doesn't look at any of the internal reviews 

of that person's performance, and d) simply accepts the recommendations of some 

underling without even questioning it. This is just gross incompetence. 



this: 

Agree with everything in your comment except... 


by nehark on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:16:16 AM EDT 


And the underling 

(34+ / 0-) 

This is just gross incompetence. 

Everything this WH does is deliberate. Period. The only incompetence showing is Abu's 

inability to cover this up effectively. 




he is so testy! (24+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 

You you assign to do the review is himself incompetent. 

feinstein's pissing him off. and i love how he's all whingy about seeing this transcript 

she has. he's downright petulant. 

you can almost hear him saying "i'ma kill the staffer who didn't bring that to my study 

session!" 






(7+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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I don't think the Bushies abide strong women much 

Taliban-esque, in their misogyny. 




I have a feeling... 

that is all part of a rehersed strategy. He's sending out his "alpha male" vibes. No mere 

woman is going to cow him! 

We need to change the wind. 

by Naniboujou on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:23:23 AM EDT 


His transmitter's not working, or not big enough 




All of them hate women 

They melt down when having to face one. 




Taliban are like that, even the Christian ones 




As evident 

by the SCOTUS yesterday. Misogynistic to the core. 

Pick battles small enough to win but big enough to matter. 

by DivaBabe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:21:31 AM EDT 


pretty bad when you don't recognize 

your OWN STATEMENT! 

(4+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(18+ / 0-) 

(18+ / 0-) 


Heschel 



Apparently he was warned ahead of time (0 / 0) 


(35+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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and sent copies of the testimony. What an idiot! 





Abu is 

planning to commit suicide? Cuz you KNOW that's probably a transcript of HIS 

testimony... 



Leahy intervenes: I sent you a letter about this 

Gonzo had be trying to say he didn't know about transcript 




So 

Abu sent 2 weeks cramming for his "testimony" and apparently all of his cramming 

involved practicing learning difference variation of how to say "I don't remember". 

Facts to Abu are like sunlight to a vampire. 



The Bush Admin thesarus 

must be quite interesting, with entries limited to: 

"I don't remember" 

"I misspoke" 

"I can't recall if I remember" 

"I misspoke" 

etc.... 

(30+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 


Heschel 



Reagan 3:16 (eom) 

(15+ / 0-) 

(23+ / 0-) 




From the Book of Ronald (10+ / 0-) 

And the Gipper did address the multitude saying thusly: Verily, I did not know. And 

verily, gosh, I just don't recall. 


(29+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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n/t 

Other places do seem so cramped up and smothery, but a raft don't. You feel mighty 

free and easy and comfortable on a raft. - Huckleberry Finn 

by Red Bean on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:23:57 AM EDT 


you forgot some pretty good ones 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 

by guyermo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:27:42 AM EDT 


Forgettin' is Hard Work 




Battle... 

I can't comment on an ongoing criminal investigaion 

I can't comment on an ongoing trial 

Apparently they have testimony from Battle. Battle said no reason to get rid of anyone. 

Leahy reminds abu that he was given notice of Battle's testimony. 

abu -> could have great EARS but there's so much more to look at. 




Gonzo has a Tom Delay moment 

Senator what are you referring to? Oh, my statement! 

Like DeLay on Hardball. Doesn't know what he wrote! 

Gonzo, GonzoGate I like to read bout GonzoGate! (sung to Macho Macho Man) 

by deepsouthdoug on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:06:43 AM EDT 


This Is Why We Need Transcripts 

You can have your "Under God" back when I get my "Liberty and Justice For All" back. 

by karateexplosions on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:35:55 AM EDT 


DiFi: did anyone ever look at the (17+ / 0-) 

performance reviews of USAs before they got put on this list? 

Abu: I don't recall. 

Ugh. 

(5+ / 0-) 

(13+ / 0-) 

(25+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 



04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Leahy 


(30+ / 0-) 

interjects into Gonzo's fumbling responses to Feinstein-- 

"I specifically notified you that you would be asked about this so you wouldn't be 

surprised." 



He's not surprised 

He's stumped for an answer. 




How the hell did he 



Obviously ... 




"Test? Test? 


(1+ / 0-) 

get through law school? He can't even remember stuff he was TOLD would be on the 

test? 

(0 / 0) 

he made it clear to potential "problem" professors that they might face "performance 

reviews", etc. etc. 

(0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

I would have studied if I'd known there was going to be a test. 

I thought I just had to be a "loyal Bushie!" 



now Feinstein listing Lam's achievements 




On Lam (we could do better" (11+ / 0-) 

so were you lying then or are you lying now? 

(19+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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OMG Diane just nailed him on Lam competency 



now nailing him on Lam's immigration record 

Prosecutions were way up. 




EARS evaluations 



EARS evaluations 

(8+ / 0-) 

This is the old question of why the hell do you have a review procedure if you don't use 

it for anything? Also, wouldn't the EARS eval. talk not only about the office as a whole's 

performance, but also about the Assistant AG's specific performance. This person is in 

charge of the office. Their individual performance would surely be considered and be 

commented upon in the report. 

(4+ / 0-) 

Don't you love how when it comes to Lam or Iglesias, Alberto sez EARS evaluations 

don't carry much weight, but in the case of Kevin Ryan (SF USA), the EARS evaluations 

were pretty much ALL they were going with? 

Grrrrrrrr. I hope somebody calls him on this. 

Visit me at Season Liberally! 

by lulu57 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:19:51 AM EDT 


DiFi has been really angry about the 

handling of Lam from the very beginning. 

It's good to see her hit him. 




She hit him with the chair (3+ / 0-) 

Now she should hit him with the table! 

(28+ / 0-) 





(30+ / 0-) 

(17+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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I'm sure she'll get to it in the 




lying about Lam now. 





Where are the documents he's talking about? 





Probably news to 



Feinstein... 




Carol Lam ranked as one of the top 10 USAs (32+ / 0-) 

Peace. 

next round. ;-) 

If she was made so aware of her poor performance, where are those communications? 

This is news to me. 

her too. 

(16+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

now extolling Lam's qualifications and accomplishments. Now discussing 

immigration...Feinstein says she received letter signed by Moschella, says that 

prosecutions are rising sharply. No one communicated that there were concerns. If 

this is the reason for firing? SHouldn't she have been given opportunity. 

abu...she was acutely aware of concerns. 

Crime at all time low, convicted Hell's Angels, Arellano-Felix cartel, Dianne is going on 

and on with Lam's accomplishments! Also bring up letter she got re: Lam's alien 

smuggling prosections are UP under Lam. 

Gonzo's got some splainin' to do... 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 




(4+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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yeah 

(6+ / 0-) 

but she served me a bad raspberry once, so we fired her 




inside head explanation 

She is too good. okay. She kills republicans with that corruption investigation. We like 

to keep incompetent and cozy. 



No wonder they fired her! 

An able prosecutor is bound to stir up trouble. 




We should get Lam for our next AG. 

She's got a stellar record. 


leader (1840-1904) 



she wasn't 





No - Fitzgerald! 

(9+ / 0-) 

she wasn't brainwashed by some 3rd rate christian school run by Robertson, so she 

can't be considered in bush's admin. at this time. 

(5+ / 0-) 




If he could get a Rove conviction ... (4+ / 0-) 

I'd make him President. 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(14+ / 0-) 


leader (1840-1904) 




04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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High five! 




ABU: I think She ( Lam) was aware... 





Gonzales: 

Hell, high ten! :-) 

HA! There he goes the shape shifter thinking which is, for him, working without tools. 

(24+ / 0-) 

I don't recall being aware. 

by inclusiveheart on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:10:27 AM EDT 


"I am unaware of being aware." 




The double triangulated denial gambit. 

John McCain is a MINO: Maverick In Name Only 

by malharden on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:13:43 AM EDT 


Where's rummy when we need 




There are... (2+ / 0-) 

 

(1+ / 0-) 

I need to remember that the next time I goof at work. 

"I don't recall remembering that I was unaware of information I did not have." 

quintuple double-entendres! 

(8+ / 0-) 

(24+ / 0-) 

known knowns and known unknowns, but there are no unknown unknowns because we 

don't know them yet. 




(12+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Next horror flick 

DOJ of the living dead, starring zombie Gonzales, going through the motions, never 

aware of anything, controlled by others. 

If Gonzo says "I don't think" will he just disappear? 



I don't think therefore I am not. 



Abu, lots of room at 

hotel gitmo waiting for Ur dead carcass 



I think... 

Attention Waxman Staffers! Clean up on aisle 1600! huttotex 3/27/07 

by reflectionsv37 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:10:52 AM EDT 


Peace. 

(13+ / 0-) 

Well, Gonzo is Sampson's mentor, after all 



DiFi: "no one communciatd to Lam 




Irrelevant (9+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Gonzo is going to exceed Sampson's record on number of "I don't recalls" per hour. 

Quite an achievement!! 

He can forget and not recall and not be aware of whether he ever did recall with the 

best of 'em! 

(14+ / 0-) 

that there were problems with the way she was handling immigration cases...shouldn 

you have?" 

Abu: She is tremendous, wonderful, etc. She was acutely aware of concerns with her 

performance. She received letters regarding our concern. I don't recall being aware of 

the letter. I made the decision ,....can't just focus on smuggling...reentry is also a 

problem. She has a lot of fans...this was a very important border district and it was 

expected that we would make improvements with gun and immigration prosecution, so 

it was appropriate to ask for her resignation.." 

that she's a wonderful person - this is one more piece of evidence of Abu's mental 

deficiency. Who cares what kind of a person she is - it's the job she does, asshole. 


(5+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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oh, it's just filler for him 

trying to show what a great, caring, FAIR person he is. 

Just typical BS. 




well then 

if ms. lam received letters indicating problems with her performance, where are they? 





my thoughts exactly 

produce them. 




Lam's the best, so we fired her 




LIAR!!! 

-5.13, -6.31 

(25+ / 0-) 

That's BushCo in a nutshell. 

That which works must be destroyed. 

(6+ / 0-) 

Lam received no letters. What BS! 



right (1+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(9+ / 0-) 

(20+ / 0-) 

should be easy enough to produce them if they really did send them. Put up or shut up, 

eh? 





04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Yep 



Lam is a wonderful mother, a great cook, and 

"Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt 

by maggiemae on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:48:10 AM EDT 


10 minute break. 





DiFi... 




Hehehehe. 

you keep copies of things like that. And Lam would keep the copies as well. 

She's a GOOD lawyer... 

whips up a great martini. We always thought she was the hostess with the mostess, but 

she needed to up those gun and immigrant prosecutions, and that's why we dumped 

her. 

Gozo is a Asshat in the mold of his mentor, Shrub... 

this guy makes Michael Brown look like Einstein! 

Thanks to all who are providing verbatium comments and reporting the back and forth. 

I'm not able to watch live, so depending on all of you for the specifics. Thanks! 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Brings up e-mail with Sensenbrenner and Issa. 

abu-> record is full with all kinds of problems. It was my decision. 

(48+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

DiFi would be great in psyops. 

As he talks, she picks up a piece of paper, puts on her reading glasses, looks it over, 

and smiles to herself. 

That's gotta make his bowels loosen up every time she does that. 




Thanks for the visual (10+ / 0-) 

us cubicle dwellers appreciate it! 





(1+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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audio only - thanks for the visual 

If this was a drinkng game, and I sipped every time AG said something complimentary 

about the fine, hard working USAs, I'd be halfway drunk by now. 

It's as if it is a stalling tactic. When in doubt, praise the USAs. Must admit the 

questioners seemed a bit on the impatient side today. [translation: Shut the eff up and 

ANSWER THE QUESTION!] 

We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from 

us. 

by Fabian on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:19:05 AM EDT 


And if you had to... 

by Ken in MN on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:04:30 PM EDT 


and nice "Box of Rain" sig line 




Recess! 

...take a shot every time Gonzo lied, you'd have been dead from alcohol poisoning way 

back in the first Diary... 

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We need to clean off the bullshit. It stinks in here. 

(Bush) believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what 

happened Tuesday. -- Colbert 

by makemefree on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:11:58 AM EDT 


Kudos to the dKos Servers! 

They're holding up under this live-blogging barrage. 

The problem is the human element...it's very hard to keep up with the posts! 




DiFi reading compliments from JD (6+ / 0-) 

regarding her performance. 

AG: There is no questions that the record is full of discussions and concerns about her 

performance on immigration and guns...that is the reason i asked for her resig. 

those..that...that's the reason why. 

And CUT and Print. 

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So he did ask for her resignation 

But he does not recall remembering his own decision to ask for her resignation. 

We're past incompetency and on to insane at this point. 




Time for a 10 min. break. 

And I have to go to work. Damn. See you after lunch. 

Thanks to all for the diaries and the excellent coverage of this historic event. 




Whew I need a break 

Gonzo gotta change his depends.... 




sigh 

Cornyn 

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Time to play who's the bigger asshole again. 




Feinstein (47+ / 0-) 

F: I have 3 questions; Whose idea was it to change the law, amendment, by you staff, 

Moschella to Specter's staff on or about 11/15/05, to add in conference without sharing 

with commitee, to replace USAs without senate confirmation 

I don't recall the genesis of the idea; it appeared, thinking, it was about 2004; I 

(support the law); 

F: so you approved it (in the manner it was conveyed)? 

AG: No, I don't have a recollection.. 

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F: I'm confused, unsure, of whether you were the decider on the list. Your written 

comments say I did not make decisions; now you say I accepted the resignations, made 

the decisions, who made the decisions. 

AG: I am the AG, I make the decisions, can I see what (you are referring to). 

F: in writing you say you did not make the decisions, this is one of the problems. All 

of this is constant equivocation. 

AG: you didn't read all of my statement; sampson - during the updates, I did not make 

decisions on who should or should not resign. I don't recall saying (do this or do that). 


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I accepted the (list). 

F: you are prepared to say you made the decision to fire on that day, 12/7. 

AG; Mr. battle made calls that day, I called Senator Kyl. I don't recall exactly when... 

F: you made the decision without looking at the performance report. 

AG: (yes), one of many factors. 

F: mercer, who was in charge of the process, in his transcript... 

AG: i don't believe he was in charge 

F: he wasn't in charge of the EARS report? 

AG: Battle was director of exec. office... 

F: let me give you a question, page 43 of the transcript. (staff interview of the 

transcript) 

AG: can I see it, I haven't seen it. 

F: (reads the transcript) referring to the list of USAs, "nobody jumps out at me, and I 

put the list away". Did anybody that was involved..in the group of attorneys..look at 

the reports prior to putting them on the list. 

AG: (I wouldn't know? - they were put on the list for not doing a good job). 

F: lam - ranked one of the top ten. she was told by Comey that he was satisfied with 

her prosecution strategy for gun crimes, 

(crap...player cuts out again...) 

Ok, got a different player just in time for the 10 minute recess! 



Take a breather Ellicatt 





I'm loving Winamp 

FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we 

will. 

by Roger Fox on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:16:03 AM EDT 


leahy reminded AG 

he had sent a letter ordering him to be familiar with this testimony! 



After the Break: Senator Box Turtle (8+ / 0-) 

I can hardly wait! 

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A box turtle 

that is a fully paid up member of the Texas Mafia (as is Gonzo). Wonder what the tone 

of his questioning will be ha ha. 

by stevej on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:15:20 AM EDT 


All of a sudden.... 

...Repugs are concerned about "gun prosecutions"? 

What? Lam did too many???? 

by jjhalpin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:12:29 AM EDT 


yeah, what was up with that? 

I had to stop typing because the words seemed so odd. 




Oh hey 

(26+ / 0-) 

look, Abu stopped lying. 



That was intense. 

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Oh, they're on break, my bad. 

Major props to all the Dems, and especially to Feinstein and Leahy. They nailed him. 

Hatch, not so much. 



impressed with Specter too 




I'll be impressed when he votes 

..not when he talks. 

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Most definitely (2+ / 0-) 

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I distinctly got the impression much of Specter's actions today were for show.. but who 


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Yes 




I can't wait to find out what principle... 




10 min break and then Cornyn - so really 20 min 

break for me. 

by ecoast on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:13:29 AM EDT 


Me Too 

knows. It's a poker match, and Feinstein just raised. 

his vote frequently does not match his "tough talk". 

...from Scottish law Specter will find to rescue Fredo's ass at the end of the day. 

My feed will be put on mute during his time. Just can't stand to listen to him. Kinda of 

like I can no longer listen to Bush. Have to read what he says rather than actually 

listen. 

by MO Blue on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:22:43 AM EDT 


Feinstein, then 10 min recess (27+ / 0-) 

F: you're testifying that you made these decisions without ever looking at the 

performance reports 

G: yes, those perf reports are only one factor 

F: mr mercer who was in charge of the process 

G: i don't believe he was in charge... mr sampson 

F: mr mercer wasn't in charge of reviewing the EARS reports? 

F: let me give you a question from transcript 

G: can i see what you are reading from 

G: i haven't seen that transcript, can i see it if you are going to ask a question about it 

Leahy: I sent you a letter about these transcripts so you would not be surprised 

G: okay. what page? 

F: page 43 

(0 / 0) 

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F: let me be clear, carol lam was one of the top ranked USAs... she brought down the 

hell's angels gang, was told by comey that he was satisfied, cartel - significant success 

with drugs, was praised by border patrol, local FBI, san diego attorney, many others. 

worked on fbi's number two priority 


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... 

F: finally, no one communicated concerns to carol lam 

G: she is a wonderful person.. she was acutely aware, were commun about her 

numbers. think she was aware that we had concerns. can't just focus on alien 

smuggling... ms lam served with distinction so she's going to have a lot of fans. this 

was a very important border district, was reasonable to expect we'd make 

improvemetns... felt it was time to make improv in performance on immigration 

F: [cites memo positive about lam] 

Leahy: ten minute recess and then Senator Cornyn 





I love open mics 



For instance 

some woman just approached Sen. Whitehouse, "I just wanted to shake your hand." 

Haha :D 



So, was Kyle Sampson the real AG and Abu was the 

"pretty" face for the press? 




if Goodling gets immunity 




She is 

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I'm sure everyone will sayy she made all the decisions 

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After all a Graduate of Pat Robertson U. 

Finest law degree Jesus Christ can provide... I mean the crazy Jesus, not the one the 

mentioned in Bible. 



Jesus's crazy twin? (0 / 0) 




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I think he's known as 



he's definitely throwing Sampson under the bus 





Cheney is the real President 

"It's the planet, stupid." 

by FishOutofWater on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:16:25 AM EDT 


ok... 

Bush? A pretty face? 

http://p2.forumforfree.com/rbcommunity.html 

by Wilberforce on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:07 PM EDT 





Order 

Satan. 

And then he's backing up and running over him over and over again. I hope Sampson 

gives up even MORE info on this dirtbag now. 

and Bush is the pretty face that plays dumb for the MSM. 

It's all relative, I guess. 

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time to take a quick shower. Heh. 

I'm sure Abu is going to change his underwear. 

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I know it was mentioned earlier, but what's the order of the Dem members? 

by MrBoomer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:14:44 AM EDT 


I think Feingold is the next dem (3+ / 0-) 




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04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Good to know 

Hey...how you doing today? 

We're not forgetting the Hokes. 

This is for you, too. 




If Russ is next Dem...Abu won't be pretty 



The capitalhearings.org feed has... 




please post a link 

(1+ / 0-) 

fascinating crosstalk during the break. 

Are y'all who can watch on C-SPAN getting all this half-time talk from the Senators? I 

wish I knew who was saying what! 

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It's a Javascript Link to a RealPlayer feed 




You made a typo; capitolhearings.org n/t 



Which room is this? 226? (0 / 0) 

(5+ / 0-) 

I am having trouble with capitolhearings.org 

...so I don't know how to find a postable link. 

My guess is everyone's servers are overtaxed at this point. 





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They are all bad... 



Dan Abrams is a Thug shill? 





KO is a media force unto himself... 



According the KO, 





Wow, are you ever wrong! 

Attn: James Nicholson is still Sec. of VA. There is no excuse for that. 

Thankyouverymuch 

by llbear on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:25:42 AM EDT 


Nothing? (0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

But MSNBC is the worst... Nothing on the hearing at all. 

I knew it would turn to crap when the put Thug shill Dan Abrams in charge of 

programming. 

I call for Dan Abrams resignation. 

Isn't he the one who is encouraging the Special Comments by KO? Abrams' dad is a 

famed civil rights attorney. 

I'd like to see Abrams try to stop him, although I'm sure that he is doing everything he 

can to counterbalance the truth that KO dishes out. 

Abrams has always be a Thug shill operator. 

He specializes in laying down smokescreens to distract people from the real issues. 

And, I don't give a crap about his father. 

Abrams has tried to push him to do more of the special comments. I don't know 

Abrams' politics--I know he's close to his dad, so I just assumed they agreed on things. 

Abrams is rare among network execs. 

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(0 / 0) 

Not only is he a good guy - but he is the wind beneath Keith Olbermann's wings. 

I saw that they were streaming it live online. But really, nothing? This from the same 

station that sent "reporters" out breathlessly waiting on ANS and MJ crap? I remember 


04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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a live feed of MJ stuff and thought it couldn't get any lower. 




remember to unrecommend other diaries 

Time to relax. 




When's Feingold? 

I am class, dammit, and very sorry to miss it. 




heh. 

*in* class! 




uh oh. 

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Hope the prof. doesn't call on you. 





The hardest part is trying not to laugh 

at stuff like "I am unaware that I was aware"! 




Feingold (4+ / 0-) 

He's the next Dem in the lineup, IIRC. 

Have to get through Cornhole first. 

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So far, no Perry Mason moment 

At this rate he will survive. 

by ecoast on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:15:27 AM EDT 


Gonzo was gone weeks ago 

This is theatre. 




It's amazing how these people don't realize how 

their mics remain live even while the hearing is adjourned. 




;-) 

Shhh..... 




All this popcorn is bloating me 

Now, back to work! -6.00, -6.21 

by funluvn1 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:15:49 AM EDT 


We need... 

 

(3+ / 0-) 

This is where we get the best stuff. 

(0 / 0) 

...Mr Redenbacher! STAT! 



CSPAN3 is now showing highlights from earlier 

so if you missed it might be worthwhile 

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during the bathroom break (8+ / 0-) 


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C-Span 3 is reairing Abu's opening statement where he tries to wrap himself in the 

Virginia Tech tragedy. 





i know 

i had to mute the player 



Beyond repulsive 

but totally predictable. 




At the pleasure 

I’d like a question about US Attys serving "at the pleasure" of the Pres, not the AG. Did 

Bush ever authorize ANYBODY at DoJ to replace these US Attys? 

-6.13/-6.31 

by count on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:16:20 AM EDT 


out. 

That's one of the things they're trying to find 





Sorry - misread your comment n/t 





UNRECOMMEND #4 please (5+ / 0-) 

and thank-you! 

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and #3 

for that matter. thnx. 




now THIS is a reality show 

American Idol take notes..... 

This should be on prime time TV 




can't wait to see the late night rebroadcast 

C-Span will probably show the whole thing overnight. 





Cornyn-Get the drool cup ready. 




you wont need a cup 

he swallows 

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Please unrecommend my above comment and 

troll-rate into oblivion. 





You'll be getting (6+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

I was unaware of the ban on pictures in livebloggin threads. 

If you'd like to counteract the negative mojo, please recommend the same comment in 

the open thread. 

a lot of mojo for your consideration. Thanks. 



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You could just delete or move the pic in Flikr 

-5.13, -6.31 



Can't delete or edit comments 




We'll rec this comment, too 





More slip ups like that and... 

 



I got it! 

It sucks - sometimes I manage to put foot in mouth, and it is there forever and ever 

and ever... 

Your UID shows you are pretty new, so don't feel bad. Welcome to DKos :) 

...you'll be just like us. welcome! 

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Figured Abu would have resigned long before this. 

Now, I know why he hasn't. 

He's plainly too dumb. 

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Man, this guy hasn't had to apply his brains in so long, he's forgotten how. 

Done nothing but clean up for and after Bush. 


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His continued presence in the Justice Dept. is obviously an insult to this country. 



The WH Isn't Keeping the GOP In-Line on This (3+ / 0-) 

They're trying to whack Fredo quietly enough that nobody asks "why are they whacking 

Fredo? what don't we know?" 

Fredo is too stupid to see the writing on the wall. He may stick around long enough for 

folks to ask the other questions. And that may lose him his Presidential Medal of 


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Freedom. 

My guess is that there are those in the White House who are quite unhappy that AG AG 

is hanging around. And if I were Fredo, I would avoid invitations to fishing trips from 

Rove's office. 




True meaning 

of slowly twisting in the wind. 




Fredo knows waay too much about Bush and his 

criminal activities all the way back to their Texas days. That's why they've been helping 

him "practice" for two weeks - not to save himself, but to save Bush's ass. 





Fun to listen to him AFTER 

the travesty that follows 




er ... preceded ... well you know what I mean 

I didn't recall. 




Something to look forward to 

Cronyn is up next. 

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(0 / 0) 

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I'll compile and post stats tomorrow (14+ / 0-) 

on number of comments, time of diary start and end much like I did in the Call for 

Volunteers diary and post them in an Open Thread. Better yet, maybe I'll diary 

something on how to make these Live Blogs go smoothly and look for feedback and. 

Kind of a Live Blog Task Force. I think we're doing a great job so far. Kudos to diarist 


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and commentators. 





If I knew what time 

the threads would need to start, I'd help. But I've got classes to teach and will be in 

and out. 

I do love reading this though, to catch up with what I'm missing. 




Wow 

You are the straw that stirs the drink. 

Great work! 

 

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Gonzo's Failed Sgt. Schultz Defense 

Gonzales simultaneously claims to have known nothing about the firings of the USAs 

AND that they lost his confidence. 

"While I am grateful for the public service of these seven U.S. attorneys, they simply 

lost my confidence." 

Alberto Gonzales, March 6th, USA Today Op-Ed 

"During those conversations, to my knowledge, I did not make decisions about who 

should or should not be asked to resign." 

Alberto Gonzales, April 15, Washington Post Op-Ed 

For more on the lies and contradictions of Alberto Gonzales, see: 

"Gonzales' Dueling Op-Eds." 

by Avenging Angel on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:20:14 AM EDT 


Exactly: hands off management 

delegates everything, signs without reading and yet we are to believe that he is a great 

leader and a fine non-partisan Attorney General. 

This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS 

by Agathena on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:22:44 AM EDT 


misstatements=lies, improper=illegal (2+ / 0-) 

Gonzo's intro being repeated, 

"Why must you question me when I have sent you several document dumps?" 

Gonzo's charisma = zero 

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This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS 

by Agathena on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:20:17 AM EDT 


Rereading his statement 

He did not remove an attorney for political gain? He lies right up front. He did not 

remove an attorney for political purposes? Than what the hell was Karl Rove doing in 

the process? Lying sack of shit. Lies right to their face. 





Esp since we "know" that 99% of Rove's work 

(ref emails) was "political" 




no one in the department 

advocated removing a USA to interfere with an investigation or for partisan political 

advantage. 

Hmmm.... 

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Doesn't rule out Rove, Cheney and Bush, does it? 

If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit 

Proviso Probe. 

by Carl Nyberg on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:20:38 AM EDT 


I'm getting goddman frustrated 

(9+ / 0-) 

has anyone asked Fredo directly about his knowlege of Lam's corruption probes? 

Isn't this central to the purpose of the hearings? Grrrr... 

The people who brought you the War on Terror are the same ones who brought you the 

War on Drugs. 

by Terminus on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:20:58 AM EDT 


He would probably answer that (0 / 0) 

he can't comment on ongong investigations/prosecutions. 

But you're right, somebody should ask anyway. 






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Follow up questions begging to be asked 

"Mr Gonzales is it just a coincidence that You started having problems with Ms. Lam's 

record on prosecuting immigration cases, at almost exactly the same time as the 

Republican national party had decided to make Illegal Immigration its central campaign 

theme for the 06 elections?" 

"Was it your sober , professional judgement that arresting illegal immigrants was more 

important to the Safety of the American people than prosecuting corrupt congressman 

and breaking up violent street gangs?" 

"You also stated Mr. Bogden was fired for not pursuing enough obscenity cases. Can 

you explain why at this time when the country is engaged in a War on terror, and a 

high profile target for violent extremists of all stripes, you believe these kinds of cases 

should have been given priority?" 




uhm 

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I can't recal, Kyle did it. mistakes were made. Can I go now? 



bravo 

(0 / 0) 

Methinks if Seppuku were an American tradition , Mr Gonzalez would be sharpening his 

Kozuka about now. 




Nina Totenberg on NPR = Blecccchk! 

"Everyone seems so sad, even the Democrats." It's sad? 

This man is an outrage. He's got the qualifications and skills of another lawyer, 

Heckuvajob Brownie. 





More bleccchk from her 

"It sticks in the Senators craw that they put that clause in the Patriot Act." 





Oh boy... (2+ / 0-) 

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"Defending our neighborhoods" -> PSN, anyone? 

"Protecting our children" -> Mark Foley...? 

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Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt: 

Downy wings, but wroth they beat; 

Tempest even in reason's seat. 

by GreyHawk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:23:02 AM EDT 


Good commentary 

on NPR now, with Nina Totenberg and Neil Conant (sp?) 





Back up 

AG looks a little pasty. 



Any suggestions.. 

of things to do while Cornyn fellates abu? 




I shot my wad of ADLs... 

during Hatch 

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I'm going to take shower 



WHY (16+ / 0-) 

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(1+ / 0-) 

a quick one and finish folding clothes :) I don't enjoy watching political sexacts. they 

make me sick. 

Why isn't Gonzales naked in a stress position? Isn't that the american way now to get 

truthful testimony? Surely it isn't torture. 






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Good point 





We're back! 

(0 / 0) 

Naked, suspended from shackled hand behind his back in a refrigerated box. That 

oughta do it ... probably get a confession of his participation in al Qaeda training 

camps. 

(0 / 0) 





What's the "God Bless America" stuff? 

I'm streaming audio & can't see it. 


Heschel 



Shorter Leahy: settle down, children n/t 




Quickest shower I ever took. nt 





no showers unti 1.21.09 ! 

...too much going on... :) 



Who's Disrupting Hearings?? n/t 



Someone keeps yelling "God Bless America" (3+ / 0-) 

I think to over shout the "will you resign" questions being asked. 

Leahy sternly lectures on propriety. 

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Good and decent man, but ...Cornyn 





10 minutes to listen between meetings and I get 

CORNYN??? There is no god. 

by feelingsickinMN on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:26:39 AM EDT 


My question 

Is why isn't the Attorney General intimately involved in the evaluation and firing of 

USAs? I mean, what else should he be doing? 

He is either guilty of firing attorneys for political process or guilty of being unaware that 

was happening under his nose. 





wow 

Box Turtle: "investigation was deplorable" 




Code Pink 

WHAT did they say? 

We miss America? 

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by threatnewsman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:25:57 AM EDT 


Is Cornyn going to be tough 

or is he just starting out tough to legitimize soft balls he have planned for later? 




Nope... (0 / 0) 

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they are turning at the roots. Translation of Cornyn's question: Nobody can say that 


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you didn't fuck up but, now, as we went over it for the last week...tell me what you 

should have done." 




Break's over 

And Abu is off and lying again. 

I'm surprised his lips don't fall off. 



Canned question 1... 

How should you have done things in retrospect after royally fucking up. 




Time for me to see what the trolls say 

at lfg and redstate. I'm in an obfuscating mood, a la Gonzo! 




good luck! n/t 




Better take McCains army with you 




Box Turtle sez the investigation's deplorable 

Off to a great start. 

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You're a good and decent man but... (1+ / 0-) 

You actually SUCK, Mr. Gonzales. Nice re-opening. 

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Cornyn: you are a good and decent man 

but this has been handled in a deplorable fashion..{eh??] 

How should you have conducted this process if at all? 

AG: It was appropriate to ensure that public servants are going their job and I..I would 

have had the deputy AG more directly involved. I should have told Mr Sampson who I 

wanted him to consult with specifically. 




I would have tied all this 

far more securely to Sampson 




Meaning "Your Cover-Up Sucked"... n/t 



Cornholio 

(1+ / 0-) 

Let the fellating begin. 

With a big ol' lie And a flag and a pie And a mom and a bible Most folks are just liable 

To buy any line Any place, any time ~ FZ 

by f furney on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:26:34 AM EDT 


Abu smiling for this testimony 

speaking slowly, very relaxed. 




Cornyn rewriting history: 

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"Who WOULD you have?" Too late, suckers. 

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leader (1840-1904) 



Who decides when you massage Roves balls? (0 / 0) 


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Sampson is the fall guy 

It was all his fault.... but "it was appropriate." 



Does this sound like a... 

...practiced answer? 



What you should have said, Abu 

There will be no politicizing the Justice Department by firing USAs for political purposes, 

I don't care what Karl Rove and Harriet Miers say. 





Question is 

Hey Abu if you were to review YOURSELF would you fire yourself or not, based on what 

you recollect? 




Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda 

Resign asshole! 





once again... 

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(2+ / 0-) 

If the "procedure was fair and proper", why do you: (a) immediately tick off a dozen 

things that were done wrong, and (b) appologize to the attorneys for the way they were 

treated. 



Dear god... what did this man actually do? (1+ / 0-) 

The things that didn't happen... like oh.... you didn't do your job at all? What a joke of 

an AG. 


04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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by cre8fire on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:27:45 AM EDT 


Why oh why 

Are we talking about what shoulda/coulda been done? 

Why? 





Abu: Shoulda, woulda, coulda 




Here's the Clinton 





Surprised it took this long to go to that well 




Here we go 

(1+ / 0-) 

Why does this man have a job still? Because he believes in Jesus? 

reference -- what a maroon. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

The protesters are getting a few words in. Now Leahy is reminding the audience that 

they must not disrupt the hearings, on either side. 

Cornyn: Heavy with the accent. He believes abu is a "good and decent man," but has 

to say that the handling of this process "has been deplorable." Asks abu what could or 

should have been done differently. Abu states he would have had the AG's more 

involved. He's trying to reconstruct the whole thing, with a whole list of what he 

SHOULD have done. Well you didn't do it, abu, and it's too late now. These words will 

not erase the lies and the cheating. 




whistleblower J. Radack's diary here (5+ / 0-) 


(5+ / 0-) 

I wish they'd call her to testify about the DOJ! 


(1+ / 0-) 

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Support truth tellers. Read Jesselyn Radack's The Canary in the CoalMine. 

http://patriotictruthteller.net 

by Silence is Complicity on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:28:07 AM EDT 


ABu: Should have taken 6-12 months 

I should have told him there should have been a face to face meeting with each USA to 

talk with issues and concerns and give them an opportunity to respond to concerns. 

When I talk about a more rigorous process, those are what I wish would have 

happened. 

I want to be VERY careful about formalizng the process. The USAs don't want a formal 

process. 

Just letting him go on and on. Not really saying annything. 




Gonzo is giving us a list of reasons 

that he should step down. 

"Should have," 







Gonzo: If we had a structure review process 

and the President wanted to remove a USA who was doing a great job, it might be 

harder for him to do that. 

My question is why a President would want to remove a USA that was doing a good 

job? 




Political reasons 

He actually said it. 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

by trevzb on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:32:39 AM EDT 


AG saying what he would have done differently (6+ / 0-) 

Commentary: had to make up the process because it's never been done before! That 

should say something. 

Kinda like invading a country, overthrowing its gov't, and building it from scratch with 

corrupt contractors - US never did it before, of course mistakes will be made. 


(3+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Where ever 

A Republican asks a question it all seems rehearsed. CLINTON, CLINTON, CLINTON! 

They are playing games, 





Clinton did it toooooo.,.. 

nyah, nyah... swell foop...swell foop. 




tu quoque! Clinton did it, too! 

While he's rambling off-topic, did anyone watch the no-hitter last night? 




Clinton did it too! 

Cornyn is a dick. 




Please give us a good Democrat 

to replace this guy with next year. Sheesh. 



Cornyn back to RW talking points 




President wants to make a change (3+ / 0-) 

POLITICALLY?????? 

(2+ / 0-) 

Did he really just say that? 

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(0 / 0) 



04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Cornyn: "You can ALWAYS fire USAs..." 

Obviously question that Cornyn won't ask: then why all the lying, Fredo? 




the clinton 93 prosecutors talking point 

hasn't this been debunked before 





Cornyn brings up Clinton--right on cue 





Senator Nothing But Lying Platitudes Corn-Pone. 

Might as well extend the break, and fix breakfast. Toodles! 



Cornhole struggling to understand 

why CLINTON "replaced 93 atty's at 1 fell swoop" 

since they serve at the pleasure of the president. 

a wave of gasps swept through the crowd at "Clinton" 




Back to Clinton..... 

He must be the source of all evil in the modern world to the wingnuts. 


Heschel 



Clinton's replacement of 93 was at the start (7+ / 0-) 

of his term. 

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(3+ / 0-) 

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(3+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 


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Cornyn knows that; he's an asshole. It's been debunked. 






Facts don't matter to the kool-aid crowd 




creating Faux News talking points 




yeah 

(3+ / 0-) 

Someone was overheard saying "oh my god" sarcastically when he brought it up haha 



Gonzo thinks a formalized process to evaluate 

USAs would be unfair to the President, because if USAs got a good formal evaluation, it 

would be unfair to the president when he wanted to fire them. 





isn't that amazing? 

he means, the president should be a unitary executive, and the senate should have 

nothing to say about anything. 



Cornyn, blah blah 

(3+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

blah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah 

blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah 

blahblah blah 



There is no evidence (0+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

of removing USAs for political purposes. It's just lying all over the place. That's why we 


(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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are having these hearings. 





HERE IT IS: CLINTON!!! 

clinton replaced 93, they serve at the pleasure, conseqence of election. If there is not 

evidence that this...these USAs were replaced with the prpose in mnd of interfering with 

and ongoing prosecution, than I ccan only conclude that we find ourselves here today 

as a result of injecting performance-based rationale int the decision. 

blah blah blah 




Abu now "re-defining" "performance-related." nt 





It's incredible that such 




Back to softball mode. 



these two fucking animals... 



Butttttttttttt Clinton...n/t 

(5+ / 0-) 

a faulty premise is still being floated, and apparently it's considered acceptable. 

(0+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Peformanced based rationale. Gimme a break. 

(8+ / 0-) 

...are responsible for deaths in texas than any two people in history...including the 

execution of the mentally incompetent. 

these two will have a special place in hell... 

(1+ / 0-) 



Who's the President-pleasurer speaking now? nt (0 / 0) 


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John friggin Cornyn 

of Texas. I think his opponent should run on the following: Cornyn was one of Bush's 

biggest supporters. If you think that's a good thing, by all means vote for him. 



This sums up Bushco 

Abu says, You have a USA doing a fantastic job and the President wants to replace 

them we need a better process for that. 

Umm, why would any good president want to replace a USA who was doing a fantastic 

job? Only in Bushworld only in Bushworld 



Gonzo just slipped up 

He said that a formalized review process, if it showed that the U.S. attorneys were 

doing a great job, then the President would have a harder time politically if he wanted 

to make a change. 

He just admitted, in a sense, they were fired for political reasons. 

There is hardly a political question in the United States which does not sooner or later 

turn into a judicial one. -5.25, -4.67 

by wolverinethad on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:30:03 AM EDT 


telling the truth 

He is already cracking? it's not even an hour yet. 



Maybe he feels too comfortable with Cornyn 

by matx on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:45:41 PM EDT 


holy shit (8+ / 0-) 

Did he just say that there shouldn't be a formal review because the president might be 

embarrassed politically? 

Is Conryn suggesting that the controversy is only because they WERE considering 

performance? 

Unreal 

(0+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(17+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

"New World Orders" is the exciting new novel of global warming and conspiracy by Ed 

Parrot and Jason Derrig. Visit www.edwardgtalbot.com for more information. 


(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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by eparrot on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:30:07 AM EDT 


Performance Based Rationale 





Nice job by Cornyn to state that 

17. Ne5 





And a great job by Leahy to blast Cornyn n/t 

17. Ne5 





Here we Go: Corny takes center stage 




Our mistake was not defining 'performance' n/t 


(1+ / 0-) 

Something the citizens of Texass haven't done with Cornholio. 

(2+ / 0-) 

Clinton fired all the USA's w/o providing any context (1993 takes office from GOP prez). 

Let me guess - how many of the USA's hired by W were holdouts from Clinton? 

(0 / 0) 

Now in at Offensive Tackle for the Embattled Texans, #44 Sen John, Cornyn 

These two were cronies, er-excuse me colleagues, on the TX Supreme court and all part 

of the Rove mafia... 

despite his concerned tone Cornyn uis gauranteed to eb running interference for the 

administration. 

WHOOP! there is is! the first "b-b-b-but Clinton!" of the hearing.....Take a bow you 

hack. Apparently Cornyn's "grave concerns" about gonzo's Statements are that the AG 

apologized for the firings not the whole lying through his teeth part... 



Does anyone know the order after Cornyn? (0 / 0) 




(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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Abu grinning like a fool 

while he recites his rehearsed tripe and bullshit 




Diary 6 up now. n/t 





n/t 

link? n/t 




here you go 

right here 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 





Performance-Related Program Activities 




While we are mentioning Clinton... 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Do you think CNN, MSNBC and Fox would be covering this live if it was Clinton's AG in 

the hotseat? 



Let's not forget Janet Reno appointed a special (0 / 0) 

. . . prosecutor to investigate Clinton. Kind of a contrast there, huh? 






04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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AG: Performance means 

whether or not you have the appropriate leadership skills... 

Someone should ask whether the AG thinks that he has the appropriate leadership & 

management skills. 



My sound is off... 

Looks like he is lying. And another important Repulican looking serious. 



I wonder where, if anywhere Conryn is going 

with this line of questioning. 

Performance based evals......... 


will. 



cornyn is trying to carefully throw... 

...his co-conspirator under the bus because HE WANTS the job once gonzales is 

gone... 



Would the Senate confirm Cornyn as AG? 

I tend to doubt it. 




they would... 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 



Gonzo- Lots of things make up (0 / 0) 

(3+ / 0-) 

...he is just another lying murdering republican... any nonminee would be, however. 

performance related problems. Could be they weren't pushing the President's policies or 

priorities. 






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Ah...the Crocodile Tears for the USA's Reputation 

Shorter Cornyn: "Isn't it a tragedy that all this oversight forced you to drag their 

reputations through the mud?" 




You didn't know what performance meant? 

So your excuse is that you were incompetent? Just as bad as firing USAs for not being 

political enough. 





Still focusin on prosecutions; 

Cornyn and Rs still ignoring the probable main reason for replacement - the 2008 

election. Voter suppression of Dems and voter fraud investigations of Dems. 

by celdd on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:32:21 AM EDT 


Duh, Cornyn. 



Cornyn 

(0 / 0) 

They didn't ask the USA's to step down to allow others the experience because that's 

not the reason the 8 were removed. 

(1+ / 0-) 




"Better Way to Address this"... 

(0 / 0) 

"I'll ask you the questions" and then I will answer them. 

I'm just listening at this point, but it seems to me that Cornyn has done more testifying 

than abu has. His is the dominant voice. 

Would have been to say "Thanks for your service, now just pls. go away & let the 

wingnuts take over". So, is Cornyn just a little peeved that Gonzo wasn't better at 

covering up his & bushco's tracks... & that now he's got to help him manufacture his 

cover-up at this point??? 



It's a fishing expedition.. (0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0+ / 0-) 


(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:39 PM 

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for members of the house to be looking into the political reasons some attorneys were 

NOT fired, according to Cornyn. That's right... we need to go back to the good old 

rubber stamp congress days... no oversight whatsoever! 



Blame the media! 

Wow, who saw that one coming? 





NEWS MEDIA 

You know what means, folks! Blaming the media for all their troubles. 




US attys don't want formal evaluation 

reach around to EARS again. justifying substitution of arbitrary performance metrics (or 

"pleasure) of the unitary asshole for whom DOJ serves. 

this blue plate special served by sampson's "coordination" should kill any questions 

about abu's "effectiveness" , intelligence, and decision-making legitimacy. 

should. 




Cornyn said he was "fully confident" -- he knows 

what was coached and this was planned. 

This is bullshit. 

Someone needs to redirect correctly. Cornyn's pointing to the two border agents is a 

b.s. call -- they shot someone and lied about it. 






Of Course-His Job is to Help Gonzo's Cover-up n/t 



Do you believe the public has been fully informed (0 / 0) 

by the media?" 

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Does Cornyn have a license to 

speak in public? 




No, they don't need 

no stinking badges. And they certainly don't need any lessons in equivocation. 




Cronyn 

by davechen on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:30:03 AM EDT 


Peace. 

(17+ / 0-) 

God! What a TOOL! 

(3+ / 0-) 

You beat me to that comment! 

(20+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 



the great thing about your comment ... (4+ / 0-) 

Is that it's appropriate for ANY diary, ANY time. 


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It's time for a president to to ask Americans to be patriotic about something other than 

war -- John Edwards 

by ThirstyGator on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:50:32 AM EDT 


waste 

(3+ / 0-) 

He's just such a waste of perfectly good DNA. 

by davechen on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:52:29 AM EDT 


Huh??? 

Truth. Justice. Freedom 

ePluribus Media 

by Timroff on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:35 PM EDT 


snarky goodness n/t 

"Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton 

by jbeach on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:40 PM EDT 


Prediction from two weeks ago 


(1+ / 0-) 

Clearly, his DNA is inferior. 

I think Gonzales has been handed things to rubberstamp his entire career and his stint 

as AG is no exception. 

He won't willingly acknowledge that he is a person who, for a combination of reasons 

only two of which are his tractability and lack of intellectual wattage, is not fully in the 

Bush circle of trust, save as a useful servant. 

The question then will be who handed him his assignments on a day to day basis, and I 

think the answer will be his staff, the ones that are deeply ensconced in the Christian 

Right (I don't see Gonzales as truly belonging to that crowd, any more than Condi Rice 

does), the ones who are beholden not to Gonzales but to God by way of his (self- 

)designated designees in America. 

I think Miss Goodling turns out to be, officially, the mastermind, and Kyle Sampson the 

strong-arm enforcement, and their (naturally) rogue operation just took over 

everything. 

I think they've already been sacrificed. All the evidence will point to this being their 

idea, and they will be martyrs for the cause, inspiration for a whole generation of Sieg- 

Heilers-in-waiting. 

Gonzales will be humiliated, will turn evidence on some of his staff but never his 

superiors or do anything to jeopardize the one prize that matters -- protecting the AGs 

and staffers who remain at DOJ. 

That corruption is worth any prize. 

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Babs taught W how to treat servants... (10+ / 0-) 


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a lonnng time ago. Abu is to W what the domestic help was to his mother. They're 

only to be kept around as long as they are useful to you. 


why not? 



didnt Neil marry one of them? 

I thought he divorced the wife so he could marry a girl who worked for his Mom... 

Politics is like driving...if you want to go backwards, choose R. If you want to move 

forward, choose D. 

by fireflynw on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:56:08 AM EDT 


Our System Can't Punish Them Appropriately So 

there is no incentive. 

Besides, unless these people are billionnaires, they can't afford to write off the entire 

rest of their careers by turning on The Party. 

We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for 

those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam" 

by Gooserock on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:47:50 AM EDT 


Goodling's immunity can cause difference 

It would mean there won't be any reason for her to go along with scapegoating, which 

means the fingers could get pointed at Rove. 

One can hope. 




Gonzo could be counted on to turn on inferiors 

Having learned that from his betters. 


(1+ / 0-) 


(2+ / 0-) 

We'll be getting all sorts of back-channel scoop now. 

(4+ / 0-) 

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(1+ / 0-) 

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Thanks 

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peace 




Well at this rate 

it looks like I'll be needed after all, probably before lunch. I'm already in at #17. 



Thank you! n/t 



I can't believe how many diaries we are burning 

through 

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I can take a slot. n/t 

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(3+ / 0-) 

I'm ready when this one gets too long 

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welcome, blogger #19! n/t 





But, But, Clinton did it (9+ / 0-) 

Pleasure of the president you know.... 

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(3+ / 0-) 

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No shit! 

How long can they use that talking point? 

by Casper46 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:32:44 AM EDT 


"The Pleasure of the President" 

...still sounds like the title of an "adult" film. 




Thanks! 

Sorry, no adults available. ( nt ) 




Oh, my god. Gonzo just said performance skills involve leadership just after he 

repeatedly revealed he is the lousiest leader ever in the AG office. 





Somebody ask - Can you list the criteria, AG? 

Ten bucks says he can't recall that either. 




If lying is on the list 

he wins 




Ha, he ;just made a case for his own... 

pathetic performance and justified his dismissal! 

by IndySteve on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:50:52 AM EDT 


Do you, sir, (8+ / 0-) 

have a brain? 

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(2+ / 0-) 

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Are you qualified? 




Oh, that's easy 

no, and no. 



Cornyn pointing out that smearing USAGs was dumb 




That was, ah, dumb of him :) 




but he prepares 

come on. 



Cornyn chaning to the border agents in jail 




They're heroes! 

(0+ / 0-) 

This is a big Right Wing cause where Gonzo and Bush are in trouble from the 

conservatives. 

Exactly how is that relevant? 


(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

Cornyn is just burning up the clock. They set this up. 



Gonzo actually referred to "disinformation" (3+ / 0-) 

about what is really a right-wing campaign. 

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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Because it rallies the base? 




The Heroes That Shot an Unarmed Guy In the Back 

While he was running away from them? 

Are those the heroes in question? 

You can have your "Under God" back when I get my "Liberty and Justice For All" back. 

by karateexplosions on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:44:17 AM EDT 


yes 

(2+ / 0-) 

they don't like to talk about that part of it much for some reason... 

"The power to dominate rests on the differential possession of knowledge" -Foucault 

by Jett on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:51:32 AM EDT 


Just got in a loooong blog exchange about them 

The guy simply couldn't imagine how conviction in a trial before a jury of their peers 

meant they were guilty. 

And the whole idea of "it's bad for cops to be able to shoot a fleeing unarmed man in 

the back and then lie about it", he just did not get at all. 




It's impossible to work 

and follow all this at the same time. 

I guess I'll have to read the recaps. 



You look ill (13+ / 0-) 

(20+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Or I can just go home, because I'm not getting anything done here anyway. 

go home for the good of your fellow workers 





(4+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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cough, cough. 



*cough* 

My blog about completely random junk. Serious to funny. johntastic.com 

by Johntastic on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:46:07 AM EDT 


Immigration: playing to the base 


Heschel 



Snoooze 

I think I have what you have. 

Ah... the border patrol agents. Wingers are torn up about that. 

AND Gonzo can stop saying "I can't recall" 

I feel like it's been Cornyn's turn for ages. . . Let's move on. 





He's just changing the subject 

to run out the clock. He's got nothing to say. 





Cornyn: The Evil Media is at fault 

what a tool. 

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Asimbagirl! #10 drational is CONFIRMED (3+ / 0-) 

can you delete the unconfirmed designation by the UserID in the list? 






04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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what do you mean? 

I did that before I published - I don't see it on my list. 





I'm trying to clarify something 

based on emails received. drational and gonzo may be the same person or I am 

hopelessly confused. Leave it as is. I'll figure it out and get back to you. 





drational posted in a previous thread 

that he/she was confiming 

This is the BEST DIARY EVER! 

by Marlboro Lite on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:49:58 AM EDT 


Then I'm concerned 

and really confused. drational's email to me said live blog-gonzo. Just checked for 

comments by gonzo. None. That means slot 9 is OPEN. 





drational 

is and has been listed in my diary with just his name. the previous diary had him listed 

as unconfirmed. 





I don't see any unconfirmed (1+ / 0-) 

designation in asimbagirls diary.... 

looks right to me. 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

The moment there is suspicion about a person's motives, everything he does becomes 

tainted - Gandhi 




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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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"Will you Pledge?" WTF ????? 

It's called taking an oath, asshole. 

Is this something like asking Al Gore to take a pledge over his electric bill? 



We just 

aren't informed enough to know he is a lying sack of shit. (Gonzo) 




Oh crap... 

Now slam the press, abu!!! Cornyn would like you to. Lubruls. Misinformation from 

libruls. Well, these guys wrote the book on misinformation so I guess they'd know it 

when they see it. Or...pause...is aub's answer misinformation (heavy, horror organ 

chord.) 




For the RT 

reference 

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cornyn is quietly throwing his... 



Cornyn for AG? 

(0 / 0) 

...co-conspirator under the bus because he knows that when gonzo is gone, gonzo's job 

will be his... 

(0 / 0) 

Isn't that like going from the frying pan into the fire? 


G.W. Bush 4/18/07 



Got earphones on listening to NPR (3+ / 0-) 

can't miss my "BEDTIME FOR GONZO" 

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Wanted: A Dem who can win PA-18 in 2008! 

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by AntKat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:34:53 AM EDT 


Cornyn posits... 

...that the AG office problems only exist because they injected performance standards 

into the process...unlike Clinton. 

Sheeeeeesh. 

(2+ / 0-) 




seems like Repubs are focusing on Gonzo 

mishandling the firings - rather than other pertinent stuff. Yeah - they coordinated 

before this hearing. 




They're telegraphing Gonzo's marching orders 

Be stupid in this instance and resign for it, not be stupid, period, and embarrass all of 

us. 

Gonzales was a placeholder. Whoever follows him will be magnitudes worse -- none of 

the incompetency, all that usurped power -- and no compunction about using it, 

blatantly. 




This confirms my belief 

At the outside, babies, you've got about a hundred years here. There's only one rule 

that I know of, babies -- `God damn it, you've got to be kind.' " 

by sap on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:48:18 AM EDT 


asimbagirl and future livebloggers 

(4+ / 0-) 

that until the end of the Bush Administration there can be no congressional recess. The 

next guy in this office is going to have to face confirmation hearings if it means the 

congress spends Christmas camped out in their chambers. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

i suggest you please put the "no pictures" reminder at the top of each liveblogging 

diary. 





It's been in some of the early ones. Youre right (1+ / 0-) 


(4+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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it's in the intro section 

(2+ / 0-) 

I tried to relocate it to be one of the first sentences, but then the damned thing 

wouldn't publish. 





Shorter Cornyn: Should have kept your mouth shut 

"Gonzo, you didn't have any requirement to give a reason, and you only got into this 

mess because you didn't answer 'They serve at the question of the president.'" 

America will never again be the land of the free... Until she again becomes the home of 

the brave. 

by Ducktape on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:35:18 AM EDT 


Cornyn: let's have another hearing 

let's have a hearing so we can hear the actual facts, rather than what you're spewing 

now. 



Cornyn - "Nothing here folks move along" 



He said it's just a fishing expedition... 

for members of the house to be investigating Attorneys who have perhaps NOT been 

fired for political reasons. 

Apparently, he thinks it would be better to go back to the Rubber Stamp Congress... no 

oversight necessary... that would be an unnecessary fishing trip!! 



He'd be happy to provide more information (1+ / 0-) 

for the Committee - liar liar pants on fire. 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Doesn't Gonzales know that he is totally at risk for spontaneous combustion? 




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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Feingold up. 





My Hero! 

-8.00, -6.00 

by cohe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:36:54 AM EDT 


Firing Political? 

Feingold: Can you understand why my constituents wonder whether there are political 

considerations? 

Gonzo: I can't see into the minds of people in your state. 

Feingold: Will there be a reiview 

Gonzo: I can't see into the minds of people in your state. 

Feingold: when can we expect requested docs? 

Gonzo: soon 

Feingold: did you speak to Sampsom? 

Gonzo: I told sampsome to make sure that the WHITEHOUSE was involvedFeingold: 

Can you understand why my constituents wonder whether there are political 

considerations? 

```` 

peace 




sorry about sloppy cut & paste 

the computer's not happy. 

warning: unintended repetition 

```` 

peace 

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(5+ / 0-) 

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by peace voter on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:03 PM EDT 


Just a question... (9+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

If the USAs serve at the pleasure of the President how did AGAG judge that pleasure? 

These guys don't serve at the pleasure of the AG or the AG's Staff. 

"It is one of the blessings of old friends that you can afford to be stupid with them." --- 

Ralph Waldo Emerson 

by goon 01 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:35:59 AM EDT 


04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Ding, Ding, Ding... 

I never knew that USA's served at the pleasure of Kyle Sampson. 


why not? 



Shorter Cornyn 

We just don't give a shit. Besides, anyone could see we have everything under control. 




American Idol, very important 

Could a Republican PLEASE ask Gonzo what he thought of the big loss on American 

Idol? 





Because America must know the facts... n/t 




He wouldn't recall 




Leahy hits back 

Goes after the "Clinton did it too" 

-8.00, -6.00 



Lehey is doing a good job (6+ / 0-) 

moderating the truth 

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(2+ / 0-) 

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(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Leahy: Bush did it too. 

Carter too, Reagan too, etc. I think his point is quit saying "Clinton did it". 



rofl 

(5+ / 0-) 

Couldn't say the name Clinton? Ha ha ha... 



Leahy intervenes: Carter, Reagan, Bush did it too 

though he could have been forceful. 




GO RUSS!! 

reminds Gonzales he's under oath 

Gonzales stammers... 




Here goes the 

(24+ / 0-) 

questions on the Wisconsin case -- hee hee. 





Cornyn (15+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(13+ / 0-) 

I believe you are a good and honest man, (but this has been deplorable). 

AG: I believe the review was appropriate; I have an obligation to proceed with 

improvement. SHould have been more directly involved; told sampson on who to 

consult with specifically, should have told him that I want the recommendations to 

include "these people"; should have told him the factors that were important and should 

not have taken 2 years; should have taken six months. Should have had a list of 

particulars. These are the things...more rigorous, constructive process, that should 

have happened in hindsight. 

USAs don't want a formal evaluation process; we are trying to improve communications 

instead of a formal process. Should have had a more structured and rigorous process. 

C: Clinton replaced 93 in one fell swoop; there is no requirement for any cause for 

replacement. One of the consequences of the election. There is no evidence; I haven't 

head of any evidence (of interfering in an ongoing investigation). I conclude that we 

find ourselves here today as a result of rejecting performance based results; McNulty 


(7+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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first offered this as rationale; this is not a life-time tenured job. It would have been 

better to tell them thank you for your service and now its time for someone else to 

serve. Wouldn't that have been a better way? 

AG: It was not to get into specifics on issue or concerns of performance. The 

documentation - this was an endeavor to identify issues of performance. We made a 

mistake in when we said performance, we should have defined that. It means if you 

have appropriate leadership or management skills. So you have relationships with 

state, local and federal partners. There are a lot of things (that relate to ) 

performance. It may have been where the person was not the right person at the right 

time for that position. 

C: (some) feel the necessity to defend themselves; should not have been a public 

forum. Attempts on the house side to identify (others) and drag them through this 

process. Mistake for it to be a fishing expedition. 

Decisions made by fed. prosecutors; Feinstein asked about Lam and immigration 

prosecutions. I have received complaints of the 2 border control agents. ... Do you 

believe the public has been fully informed, that a hearing by this committee on this 

case would be a legitimate exercise, would you welcome a hearing, pledge full 

cooperation of your committee. 

hard to answer first question; a lot of the information is disinformation; I have 

confident in the (prosecutors) judgment. The border agents are heroes, but a jury 

agreed that they had broke the law and tried to hide their crime. 

Hearing by committee - the dept. will try to be, will fully cooperate and be as helpful as 

we can. There is already a lot of info out there; we want the committee to be 

reassured that nothing (improper) happened. If we have information, we will provide 

it. 



Here's RUSS ! ! 

Does it get good now> ? 


will. 



Russ gives an example from his state 

of why politicizing the process of justice is bad. As if we need a reason. Russ: Oh by the 

way, can you review this friggin case? It's a cluster. 



oh SNAP--Russ just reminded him he's under oath! 

this is going to be good. 

(0+ / 0-) 





His answer to that was evasive (7+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

You've got to be kidding. He tries to be truthful - but it's HARD WORK! 


(22+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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"I don't recall if I'm under oath." n/t 




comment of the day! n/t 



by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:02 PM EDT 


Thank God 

Feingold! 

(2+ / 0-) 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



Feingold... tall bracing glass of cool water 




He is in truth not that tall 

But he's ten feet tall today. 




None Of Them Had The Patriot Act To 

circumvent Senate confirmation or advise and consent, etc. Stop lying Specter! 



Feingold up now. 

(2+ / 0-) 





Leahy nails him! (19+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(14+ / 0-) 

(8+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

How many of President Clinton's USAs did Pres Bush repllace? 


04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Going down the line of all the Presidents in recent history replacing all of the USAs of 

their predecessors. Go Patrick! 

Peace. 



YES!! Feingold! nt 



Leahy point out the obvious 

most presidents remove previous president's USAs... 





Feingold: on Wisconsin scandal 

This is good. 




Yeah RUSS! 

Cuts AG off: "Yes I can" 

"A Republic, if you can keep it". Ben Franklin 1787, regarding the new Constitution. 

"Challenge accepted." George W. Bush, Jan 20, 2001. 

by Quicklund on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:39:51 AM EDT 


Softball over Hardball time 

Jesus is a hippie (econ -9.13/social -5.28) REDEMPTION 

by viriginia liberal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:37:44 AM EDT 


Feingold- you have the obligation to tell the 

truth whenever you make a statement don't you? 

Answer, I try 



yoda (18+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

Do or do not. There is no try. 

(8+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 



(19+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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I have a man-crush on Feingold. 

And I'm not afraid to say it. :) 




I think 

-8.00, -6.00 



Go Leahy! 

(4+ / 0-) 

I am in love... (but I am a woman...) 

(13+ / 0-) 

Every president replaces the former president's USAs at the beginning of the new term 

or closely to it. Not half way thru the second term. 

It's not the replacing, it's the fricking lying! 




And, aren't some of these attorneys... 

that are now being fired, Bush's own hires, not attorneys hired by Clinton? 



They are all Bush's hires.... 

or 99% of them at least. 

The meek shall inherit nothing. -F.Zappa 

by cometman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:51:55 AM EDT 


Thanks, that's what I thought... 



All of them, iirc. n/t (3+ / 0-) 

Who you gonna call? 

(18+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

so it seems inane to compare Clinton's actions to Gonzo's present predicament! 

I guess it's just as silly to try to figure out the logic of right wingers! 

by Ahianne on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:52:48 AM EDT 



04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Abu admits politics in Wisc. case? 

Did I just hear that? 


leader (1840-1904) 



Gonzo: "How DARE you suggest politics involved" 

A little late for that after basically saying that you can fire folks for any reason 

whatsoever. 




So Stupid. 

They should have just ADMITTED it was ENTIRELY political from the very BEGINNING. 



by potownman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:14:05 PM EDT 


Feingold interrupting Gonzo - good 




Feingold... 

not letting abu get by on talking points. 

abu-> can't speak for rabble...most honest answer he's given yet. 




Grilled Gonzo 

It's what's for lunch! 

(0 / 0) 

(18+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 





in audio only, he sounds like Ditka n/t (4+ / 0-) 


(4+ / 0-) 

(11+ / 0-) 



(8+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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God...or Ditka? n/t 

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused. 

by jkennerl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:41:12 AM EDT 


More Like God; 



by potownman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:15:34 PM EDT 


Oooh... I only have an hour but I'm SO GLAD 

Shame on NBC. 

Ditka's voice has a higher pitch. 

to be reading this here!! I'm listening online. I'm pretty pissed there isn't full-time 

coverage on cable. 

by RenaRF on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:39:40 AM EDT 


Is anyone counting 

how many times Gonzo says "I don't recall." ? 

Memo to James Carville: sit down and shut up! You too Begala! 

by Radiowalla on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:39:42 AM EDT 


How many times? 

I don't recall. 




damn straight 

Too many 

Avoiding Theocracy at Home and Neo Cons Abroad 

by UniC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:42:01 AM EDT 


I can't count that fast--somewhere in the 100's.. (0 / 0) 

at least... 

(4+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(7+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 




(6+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

Page 22 of 77


Gonzales is proving his ineptitude 

and his complete lack of the stuff it takes to serve as the US AG. 

He's the marker for the gravesite of Bush Cronyism. 

::::: 




But he's doing a fantastic job, (like brownie!N/; 

by IndySteve on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:56:46 AM EDT 


"when can we expect a reponse" on records 

Gonzo evades 




Feingold 

(7+ / 0-) 

asking about record request. 

abut-> voluminous. It will take us some time to lose the documents. 




Russ is great.... 

(15+ / 0-) 

I'm not asking if there was impropriety, I'm asking if you can see how people might 

conclude that there would be concern about impropriety. 



I am growing weary already 

(11+ / 0-) 

(10+ / 0-) 

Abu wants to "look at the facts" in response to questioning by Feingold. Feingold 

interrupts, abruptly. He is barely containing himself and the little turd thinks he has the 

upper hand. Abu has no ability to "read" the person questioning him. 




Could you imagine Abu as even an (5+ / 0-) 

Assistant USA? The defense attorneys would eat him for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 

What an embarrassment this joker is. 

by Treg on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:43:33 AM EDT 


(6+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Peace. 


I cannot even imagine how he passed 

the bar exam, assuming he was even required to take it before assuming the position 

for bush. And I fully doubt he understood all of the various oaths has taken over the 

years. 




Competency has never been high on Bush's priority 

...list for deciding whom to hire/appoint. 

BenGoshi 

___________________________________________________ 


by BenGoshi on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:09 PM EDT 


understand, hell 

he can't recall any of them. I'm surprised he can recall saying "I do" at his wedding. 

by mmacdDE on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:22:41 PM EDT 


Feingold not putting up with Fredo's BS 

Are you planning to have the OPR review the Georgia Thompson case? 

and 

When can we expect to receive the documents we have requested? 



Feingold was not letting Gonzales even talk 

or spin his BS. 





Wants quick answers- good. Did you follow up with (7+ / 0-) 

Sampson? 

I can't recall 

(0 / 0) 

(23+ / 0-) 




(4+ / 0-) 

(11+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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new drinking game... 

how often abu throws Sampson under the bus. 




Hiccup!!! 

already tipsy from the first one. 




they've given up on the bus 

they're now throwing him directly into a jet engine. 



Feingold 

Interrupts waffling gonzo - Not before time! 




NOTE TO DIARIST 

...hi. i don't think it is necessary to have people rec'd these diaries since they are 

clogging up the list. can you suggest that people stop? i mean they are appearing at 

such frequency that they never fall off the current list... 

just a thought, out of consideration for the non-ag diaries. 

thanks. 

(5+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 



that's a good point 

(10+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

the whole site seems to be here, very few other diaries are appearing. 




Rec and unrec (6+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

If you note the top statement on the diary, the rule is that you unrecommend the 

previous live blog and recommend the current one. That way there should be only one 

live blog diary on the rec list at any one time. Not perfect, but it's usually worked 

before. 



04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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yes, but... 

...i guess what i mean is that it needn't be since the new one appears before the other 

sinks off the list... it might actually be better. hey, just an idea. 

thanks. 



Shorter Gonzo 

Feingold: "Did you ever..." 

Fredo: "I just work here." 




Senior Leadership 

was supposed to be consulted, and I trusted they were, and I'm just a shill, so I never 

read the recc's. 



did you probe the info Sampson gave you? 

doesn't recall 




I can't recall.. 





Sen Sessions 

(0 / 0) 

(17+ / 0-) 

(8+ / 0-) 

that I can't recall that I was unaware that I was aware but I do recall that I can't recall! 

DAMN! Shape shihftin' weasel. 

(0+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Actually uses "Do you recall" in his opening questions .... Gonzo answers: "I have no 

memory" "I don't recall" etc "recall" used 6 times so far. 


(5+ / 0-) 



Feingold gets the most I DON'T RECALL answers! (20+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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You know they are asking the right questions when they get those answers. 

Kick ass1 





Because he reminded Gonzo that he's under oath 





Of course he had to be reminded 

he can't recall taking the oath he took 2 hrs ago. 



There's the key to listening 

Should have made a scratch pad and ticked off each "I don't rcall" next to each 

Senator's name. 





is Feingold a lawyer? 

he seems good at questinging. 




Fiengold is top tier... isnt he ? 


will. 



Harvard, Rhodes Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa... (13+ / 0-) 

Yep! Harvard Law, class of 1979. 

He has quite a resume. 

(8+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 




(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Yes n/t 

populus vult decipi 

by aggieric on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:48:26 AM EDT 


Holy SHIT! 

Gonzales recalls something! 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



I'm surprised he's wearing pants. ;) 



[ Parent | Reply to This ] 

he may be wearing pants 

but he long ago misplaced his balls 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



Did you probe information that Sampson provided 

Did you ask McNulty if he was comfortable with process 



Repeating the last phrase of a question 

as a question is a psychological preface for a lie. 

:::: 




I don't recalls... 

six in a row so far... 

(1+ / 0-) 

(9+ / 0-) 



Abu can't say he'll tell the truth! (4+ / 0-) 

He "thinks the American people deserve to be told the truth, and he endeavors to do 

so." 

Translation: He's lying. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

(9+ / 0-) 


(0+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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He endeavors to tell the truth, 

to the extent that his superiors allow him to do so, i.e., to the extent that he does not 

implicate Bush, Rove, or Cheney. 




I am a 51 year old brunette 

But I am endeavoring to be a 25 year old redhead. 


G.W. Bush 4/18/07 



Hey, I'm a 51 year old brunette, too! 

However, I am endeavoring to be a 32 year old blonde. 

Big difference, of course. 




Both sound good to me! 





aren't... 

2008 RNC Convention information :) 

by Redpin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:56:16 AM EDT 


I love Russ! n/t 

I am all for equal opportunity. 

Aren't we all? :) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 



Me too... (2+ / 0-) 

This is what a real prosecutor can do. 

(2+ / 0-) 

(11+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 


(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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He RECALLS that there was a 

CONVERSATION with SAmpson? What did they talk about - lingerie? Football? Paint 

colors?? How ridiculous. 

Shame on NBC. 



As I said in one of the other live threads 

If he survives this, I will be shocked and amazed. This is blatant, unequivocal lying. 

UNDER OATH. 




Lingerie 

Wonder if Gonzo waxes his back. 





Ew. 

Just... ew. ;-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Shame on NBC. 



they were discussing 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



I love the phrase, "endeavor to be truthful" !! 

REVOLUTION is in the air!! 

(16+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

whether or not Jeff Gannon has naturally silky hands or whether he moisturizes 

What slime, and I hope they clean his clock!! 

by Styve on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:42:20 AM EDT 


Although CNN isn't covering this live... (8+ / 0-) 

...they dip in and out - their commentator highlighted the discussion about Domenici 


(3+ / 0-) 

(9+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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and Gonzales' comments to that effect and then concluded that he didn't know how 

Gonzales could survive after that line of questions and answers. 

Heh. 

Shame on NBC. 



Reccomended 

... you did say "clock", right? Yep ... Reccomended. 



by Quicklund on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:46 PM EDT 


What's my name? 

What am I doing here? 

I can't freakin recal. 







See how contagious it is? 

You can't recall how to spell simple words anymore... 



cspan just went wonky 

when shit got hectic with feingold - gonzales can't answer a single one of his 

questions!! 



HI! 

(22+ / 0-) 

My name is Senator Feingold and I'm here to kick your ass. 



...to kick your (7+ / 0-) 

lying ass. 

(0 / 0) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(0+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 


04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Gonzo has not been able to answer one of 

Feingold's question without the words I don't recall 



Sen Feingold is painting 

the AG into a corner, I sense. 

Lots of "I recalls" by the AG. 

Rapid fire questions. Go go go Senator! 

"No basis" foy you to say.. Gotta love my Senator. 





OOOH! 

Russ scores! 

(7+ / 0-) 

"You really had no basis for saying the USA's had lost your confidence" !! 



Feingold is good 

wish he were running for Pres.... 




yeah, except... 

we really need him in the Senate! 





Abu "had everything to do with the decisions... (5+ / 0-) 

they were my decisions" 

(10+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

but...he only spoke with Sampson, doesn't recall whether there was anything in 

writing... 


(3+ / 0-) 



04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Russ "you had so little basis for your decisions" 

G - I regret each of those words 





I don't recall!! 









Rinse & Repeat! 

(3+ / 0-) 


by reflectionsv37 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:43:23 AM EDT 


But what's Feingold SAYING? 

Yes, he rules! Help us poor feed-deprived folks. What is he SAYING that's so good? 

by Sundoggy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:43:25 AM EDT 


Gonzales had no input or information..... 

....on the fired attorneys prior to the firing. He did not have specific information 

regarding the performance issues of the attorneys. Feingold got him to say, as much as 

this guy can admit, that he let his underlings make all the decisions. Yet in the op ed 

piece he wrote, gonzales said he was not happy with their performance at the time of 

the firings. Feingold highlighted the inconsistency of Gonzales' statements. 

by Digginthislife on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:52:38 AM EDT 


Did you vet Sampson's info? other Qs (4+ / 0-) 

"I don't recall. I do recall being surprised that 5 names weren't on the list." 

"I don't recall such a conversation." 

"I recall conversations with Sampson." 

"I don't recall asking for a report." 

"I don't recall such a conversation." 


(5+ / 0-) 

"I had everything to do with the conversation." 




(7+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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seems circular to me 




Consensus? 

Who the hell are the "senior leadership" who put together the consenus? 





GO FEINGOLD! Is he a lawyer? nt 





he sure is!!! 

haaaaaarrvvvaaarrddddd too :) 



what? 

ya mean he's not a Regent U grad? 

```` 

peace 

(0+ / 0-) 




thanks... 

(4+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

...you made me spit out some coca-cola on the keyboard! :) 



I suspect Regent U's rolls are... (2+ / 0-) 

...somewhat lacking in the "Feingold" demographic. 

Certainly in the 'same class of legal mind' demographic. 





04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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ya mean... 




Feingold for SCOTUS 

Let's just say "lacking haloes" 









Not until we have an ironclad 

Impeach George Bush NOW. 

by Black Maned Pensator on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:55:25 AM EDT 


I recall sampson... 

smart people - or those folks with horns? 

or both 

```` 

peace 

and hard minds ... but yep, both. 

He should be the first justice appointed by the next administration. 

majority in the Senate. 

(2+ / 0-) 




Abu, you dunce (1+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(6+ / 0-) 

giving me consensus...I had everything to do with the decision...even though I didn't. 

Recollection is that consensus of department...senior leadership had lost confidence. I 

understood that senior leadership. They all knew better than I. 

YOU ARE senior leadership. Asshole. 

(0+ / 0-) 




(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Feingold is on to something . . . 

Why didn't Gonzales ask for a memo explaining the list of names to be fired? 

Answer: Because Gonzales already knew the reason. If anyone can get Gonzales 

to say or imply that, he's sunk. 





he took the word of Sampson - a hack 




No, Bush ordered the firing. 

The big fish here is not Gonzales, it's Bush. 





Or Rove n/t 




gotta get abu to finger precisely 

"senior leadership" names (inside or outside DOJ) to whom he deferred USA evaluations 

and signed off. 

has this been been established anywhere? i dunno ... only that sampson is 

"coordinator" of this new process. a lot of names being floated in this hearing and 

smokey process criteria. 

fact: abu et al circumvented FR/public law (ergo congress) establishing EARS for all GS 

civilians. abu has testified to this, having given NO "formal" name to or "formal" criteria 

for the process replacing EARS. 

prison, pls. 




Russ would make an amazing (17+ / 0-) 

president!! 

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He's doing too important a job now, but I would quit my job to volunteer for his 

campaign...and that is saying alot!!! 




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Seconded! In a heartbeat. 



agreed 

BIG Feingold fan here. 

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peace 




Breaks my heart that he won't run 

He has asked the strongest questions yet. 

Feingold has real leadership ability and much integrity. 

What a contrast with Gonzalez. 




He has left the door open for a VP slot 

Richardson/Feingold? 

Obama/Feingold? 

Gore/Feingold? 

Feingold 2016? 

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We still need good Senators and chairmen. 



W/O a doubt. (0 / 0) 

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Senator Feingold is one who will soldier on where he can serve best. If he took it, it 

would have to be because he has decided he would run for President in 2016. I doubt 

he would take himself out of the Senate for eight years, in exchange for the 

VPresidenial backwaters, only to then retire from politics. 

I doubt he will end up with the VP slot. It probably won't be offered, and even so he 

might not want it. But still... :-) 


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How about: 

Gore/Obama: 2008 

Obama/Feingold: 2012 

Feingold/X: 2016 

... 

Dean needs to be in there sometime. Richardson is solid as well. And we need a female 

President sooner than later. 

Clearly, we have too few slots and too many good people on our side, the latter is a 

good thing :) 

Gore/Obama'08: pave the future from the present. 

Next preferred ticket: Obama/Richardson. 

by NeuvoLiberal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:56:42 PM EDT 


Damn c-span, get better servers! 

This is far too choppy! I can't get the MSNBC link to work. It plays VTech videos 

instead of the hearing. Anyone have a working link to MSNBC feed, or anything better 

than C-Span 3? 



What is working for me is.... 

Cspan's link to play it on Windows Media Player 


by Jackson on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:47:25 AM EDT 


You need to use Internet Explorer 

the MSNBC feed doesn't work with Firefox. 

Support citizen journalism, every little bit helps. 

by dlcampbe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:05:26 PM EDT 


You had no basis for saying in your op ed 

that you'd lost confidence in the Attorneys, because you were outta the loop. 

Zing. 

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that's an important point! (2+ / 0-) 

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Sr. leadership (hacks) had lost confidence - 

so Gonzo said OK! 




Feingold hammering 

on Gonzo having so little to do with reason for firings -- basically saying -- you are a 

loser and liar. 





if anyone is interested in the case... 

...senator feingold talked about having the oig investigate, i diaried it last week. 



That case is an amazing example 

of how the administration has made politics trump justice. 

by kimoconnor on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:44:48 AM EDT 


I don't recall but I recall what Sampson 

He keeps telling everyone he doesn't recall what He himself did during the whole sad 

sordid affair but amazingly he is able to recall with quite detail and quite clearly what 

Kyle Sampson was doing with the whole thing. Amazing ain't it! 



Doesn that qualigy as throwing 

Sampson under the BUS ? 

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will. 



Feingold says you could have corrected the Oped (8+ / 0-) 

at least since you've failed in all other aspects of this case 

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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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the audio feed is working pretty well n/t 





oops meant to respond to oglongcock n/t 





Did you at any time probe the information 

that Sampson provided you? 

Answer: I don't recall. I do remember not being surprised that 5 of the attorneys were 

on the list. 

Did you at anytime ask for a report in writing? 

Answer: No, I didn't. 





F: you made so little effort to understand 

that got under Gonzo's skin. 




'justifications have been made up after the fact' 

Gonzo is really in trouble here. 




Who's your Daddy Gonzales? 

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Because I think Russ is your DADDY. OH, he's schooling him. 



Senior leadership of the Dept. (13+ / 0-) 


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Who the hell is Gonzo if he is not "the" senior leader of the dept. 




was thinking the same thing n/t 




Exactly! This is all Sargent Shultz shit. 

The AG knows NOTHING! 

It was the consensus of "the leadership" 

Who's the leadership? WTF!? 

-4.38, -7.64 Voyager 1: proof that what goes up never comes down. 

by pat bunny on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:47:46 AM EDT 


Re sig. 

Two villages in Texas are missing idiots. 





More than that 

and more than Texas. Hopefully we'll send them all back next year. 



Gonzo: "I want to get to the bottom of this... 

....just like you do." 

Hah! 

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Let's all hope that he gets to the bottom of it, and figures out why he did what he did. 




Nailed! (3+ / 0-) 

Thank you Sen. Feingold. 

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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Feingold is bringing out the canons........ 

Thank you Senator Feingold. 

Finally, the hard questions. 

F: you didn't know then and you don't know today (how) any of these people got on 

the list. 




shorter Gonzales: This is Chewbacca! n/t 




if we were playing an "I don't recall" 

drinking game....we'd all be dead by now!! 





...hic! 

hours ago... 

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My rough count is 21 so far. n/t 




even those of us driving! n/t 


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Feingold-good transcript questions under oath-YES 




Abu: I didn't know what I was doing then, (5+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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and I don't know what I'm doing now. 





"And always twirling, twirling! TWIRLING!" -nt 




thats a no asshole! 

Finegold 10 Abu 0 



Gonzo: "I May Not Have Had a Clue... 

...but the documents suggest others in the department did. What's the problem?" 




"You didn't know then and don't know today 

how those peole made it on the list do you? 

If anyone can fiigure out his answer I'd appreciate it. Feingold takes rambling response 

as a no 



I want to get to the bottom of this 

as you do Senator. 

Sure Gonzo! Sure! 




Feingold says... 



I decided... (6+ / 0-) 

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Gonzo should have made a statement or sent a letter to the editor to correct your op 

ed about the fired attorneys had lost your confidence... when he had actually never 

personally looked into the records of those attorneys. 


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but don't know why I decided. And if I did know why I decided I don't remember now. 

But if I did remember it was because everyone wanted me to fire 'em. I think. 




and because I recall 

with certainty, Kyle Sampson was taking care of it. 



But I don't recall 



Right decision 




ooh; "...doesn't cut it with me" -Feingold n/t 




Appalling 

-8.00, -6.00 

exactly what he was taking care of. But he did it all by himself. 

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What's the basis for the decision, then. 

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How embarrassing that this man is our attorney general. This is appalling. 



Feingold: Various justifications 

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made up after the fact just don't cut it with me. Zing! 



You didn't know then and you don't know today (12+ / 0-) 

that any of these people deserved to be on that list, do you? 

answer: In hindsight I could have done things differently, blah, blah. 

The fact that these basis for the firing came out after the fact, just doesn't cut it with 

me. 


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In hindsight 

so that means Gonzo has his head up his ass? 

Hell, we knew that... 



Finally: a Senator calls bullsh*t 

Thank you, Senator Feingold. 



F: "you didn't know then and you don't know now" 

why any of the prosecutors ended up on the list. 




there's too much evil in DOJ for Gonzo to exit 

too many dead bodies and too much corruption. 




Feingold - "doesn't cut it with me." 

Thank you for representing the American people, Senator. 




F: the fact that information seems to have been (9+ / 0-) 

made up after the fact doesn't cut it with me 

Gonzo squirms. 

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F: there is nothing in the record that you had sufficient information available to make 

that judgment 




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Feingold short 

You didn't know squat and you don't know squat now about why these individuals were 

fired, did you? 



Wow! n/t 



abu... 

Going octave plus 1 and going up. 

Rats...back to Sessions. 




there's nothing in the record 

that shows that you had sufficient information to make these determinations to fire 

these individuals...Feingold 




Feingold tells him there is nothing in the record 

to justify firings 

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Says 5 firings did not surprise him 



Does Gonzo not know what Russ can do? 

Russ is not going to back down. 

Oh crap, Sessions up now. 




gag Session next n/t 


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Abu is SO outclassed by Feingold & Feinstein. (4+ / 0-) 

Maybe Sessions will give him breathing time. 

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leader (1840-1904) 



Sessions, Schumer, Graham...n/t 




...Durbin n/t 




Sessions, Schumer, Graham, Durbin...? 

up next, I think I got it right. 



up next for Prez, I hope [except Graham] n/t 




except Sessions, too n/t 




yes 

that's what I heard. 

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peace 

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that's 3 in a row (0 / 0) 

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after sessions who'll grill him (even Graham's pissed) - it's going to be a rough 40 min. 

or so for Abu G 

People hate this war and hate GWB, and every time he ... reminds people that the 

Democrats want to bring the troops home it makes them like Democrats. - Atrios 


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by atrexler on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:51:24 AM EDT 


Gonzo: I Think I'm Justified... 

Textbood example of hubris... 



Yet, he apologized 

to the fired attorneys and their families and said it was "handled" poorly. 

But he was right, damn it. 

And he promises to do better. 

Got that? 




OUCH! feingold nails gonzo... 

"you didn't know then and you don't know NOW why these attorneys were removed!" 

"there is NOTHING in the record that demonstrates that you had sufficient record to 

make that decision!" 

gonzo says that the d.g. made the recommendations and he supported it... 

i know nothing, i am nothing, i am an idiot! but i made the decision and i stand by 

that! 

soon as i got arthritis, most of my caps ran away from home! those that remain, 

huddle together in fear! 

by edrie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:47:51 AM EDT 


F's Declarative statements 

...rattled Gonzo. Flustered. 




oh geez, Sessions... 

he makes us Alabamians look bad 





I know. We need Ron Sparks. (2+ / 0-) 


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His defense boils down to... 

He did not know exactly why the attorneys were on the list. 

He relied on his staff. 

He was not surprised to see five of the names. 

On that basis he made the decision. 



His defense is: I'm useless! 

Can't we move on? 

I still get to be AG though. 

-4.38, -7.64 Voyager 1: proof that what goes up never comes down. 

by pat bunny on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:54:57 AM EDT 


whoops cspan3 feed finally giving out... 




mine's ok. 



I'm using the windows media player 



Gonzales: 

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No recollection of recollecting that recollection. As I recall. 

now. No video, but the audio is pretty good. 

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I was justified in relying on the judgement of the senior staff in the DOJ. 

QUESTION, GODDAMNIT: So, you're saying Bush, Rove, Domenici, Meyers discussed 

these names, but somehow you were just relying on the judgement of the senior staff 

and they (WOW!) conincidentally came up with the same names? 





Hopefully a bird crapped on Schumer's car this AM (2+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Give 'im hell, Chuck. 



Feingold 

Can you see why many are questioning why the Thompson case (was for political 

reasons)? 

AG: when anyone alleges politics are involved, what does it say to that AG, local 

prosecutor.. 

F: I'm not alleging that..can you see how this problems leads to a situation of whether 

this is a political situation 

AG: I can't see.. 

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F: yes, you can; can you see how this (has influence...)... I understand that the 

Milwaukee office has received..when can we expect a response to our request. 

AG: trying to do what we can as quickly as we can. 

F: sampson said he kept you informed. Did you ask for specific information in relation 

to this process and to check up? 

AG: told him to make sure the WH was advised and that he consult with senior people. 

F: I'm asking if you checked back to see if he did it. 

AG: I understood...(who did you talk with, who did you check with)... I don't recall 

having specific questions, do recall that when I saw the list, (recognized 5 of the 

names...) I don't recall asking for a report prior to 11/26(?). I recall Sampson 

presenting to me the recommendations that I though were the senior recommendations. 

F; you made so little effort to understand the reasons behind this. 

AG what I understood was the the recommendations represented the senior leadership 

dept. I regret the words, but I understood that the senior leadership, reflected it, that 

they knew better than I of the individuals. 

F: you could have corrected the op-ed, but you let it sit out there; hurt the reputations 

of the (8USAs). 

AG I know the basis of how I made my decisions; not aware of testimony that 

someone was let go for improper reasons, documents don't support it. I want to get to 

the bottom of this as well as you do. 

F you didn't know then and you don't know today how these people got on the list 

AG I've gone back and looked at the record...the decisions stand and should stand; 

were the right reasons. there were mistakes in the review process. 

F I'm going to take that as a "no" to the questions I've asked. clear at the time that 

you had no basis to know how the people got on the list..(your answer) doesn't cut it 

with me. 

AG: there is documentation for lam, Mckay, bogden (names others). you may have 

information that I don't have access to. 

F there is nothing in the record that you had a sufficient effort (to have those decisions 

made). 

AG I relied on people to make the recommendations. I wasn't surprised at five of the 

names. 

Next is sessions, schumer, graham and then Durbin 



Wow, I'm 200 comments late! n/t (2+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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you missed Feingold! 




Sessions, Schumer, Graham 

I think that's the order. 




Whitehouse 

Or is he in the House rather than the Senate? 




The e-mails show the Nov. 27 meeting 

was to be held in Gonzales's conference room. And he doesn't remember! 




Red Flags! 

So Gonzo's whole argument is 'even though my chief of staff and I share the same 

brain (converse with each other throughout the day, everyday), I essentially have no 

control of the DOJ or the actions the DOJ takes when it looks unfavorable to me." 

SOB 

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nobody is in charge 

We hold each other hand, hug and sit around fire to decide. You know, just like in 

commune. 

(that guy is so lying.) 

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Sessions: asking about Sampson's testimony (0 / 0) 

This might be interesting... 'no recollection' from Gonzo. 


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Aieee!!! 

I loathe loathe LOATHE Jeff Sessions! I bet he even loathes himself, that's what a twit 

he is. 

Shame on NBC. 



Feingold didn't draw blood 

Abu stuck to the talking points and managed to continue to besmirch the reputations of 

the attorney's in the process. 




Laying the groundwork n/t 


by Caneel on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:23 PM EDT 


schedule shows a meeting 

can't recall if I attended it. 

He admits he blows off meetings he has pencilled in? 




Sessions > Schumer > Graham > Durbin 

Leahy just announced the order. 

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peace 

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Ana Marie Cox is having fun with this testimony.. (3+ / 0-) 

... wondering whether there shouldn't be a Little League mercy rule in Senate 

testimony. 

"You have to keep your knee on [Bush's] windpipe until the danger is past." -- Garry 

Trudeau 

by tbetz on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:49:03 AM EDT 



04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Senator I have searched my memory 

and I have no recollection 

Man, he needs to be seen to by a senility specialist. 



time for # 7? 

we're almost at 300 comments. 

```` 

peace 




He needs 

Alzheimers drugs. He's got a really bad case, and early onset too. 

Poor man...can we just impeach him now and put him out of his misery? 



Sessions - interesting. 

Hard questions about meetings. Softballs? Not so much. Good for him. He's a tool - but 

at least he asked a question that got an "I don't recall". 



Haha 

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Eco: -4.88 / Soc: -5.38 

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by Absit invidia on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:49:05 AM EDT 


Another 2 "I have no recollections"...n/t 

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"My schedule shows a meeting... but I do not have a recollection of that meeting". 

(0 / 0) 



Jeff Sessions-Banjo player on movie "Deliverence" (3+ / 0-) 





04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Or Andy Griffith's Ernest T. Bass? n/t 



Theres a pair to draw too. 




LOL! I'm taking a coffee break 



I have no recollection of that meeting! 





Ohhh boy.... 



Gonzo- I have no recollection of that meeting, 





Quick Mick... er Sessions 




Feingold rips (0 / 0) 


They should be ambassadors somewhere. 

for this segment. I expect nothing earth-shaking for the next few minutes! 

(2+ / 0-) 

Gonzo doesn't recall the meeting... 

my schedule shows that I had that meeting, but I have no memory of this. 

(1+ / 0-) 

cut me ... patch me up so I can get to the next round. 

Gonzo a new one and keeps on movin' 

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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Didn't Gonzo take notes at this meeting or anythi 

don't they record what goes on at these meetings? 




Poor Fredo! 

He has his pants around his ankles, but Session's not willing to just go about his 

business. 

Remember, not all the GOPers will be playing rent boy during these hearings. 




mr gonzo 

mr. gonzales earlier this morning you stated that......... 

Mr. Senator, I do not recall this morning. 





"I have no recollection of that meeting" 

Come on! 





It was scheduled, but he blew it off n/t 




Sampson says Abu was there, 

I believe. 

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Sessions just accused AG of lying (3+ / 0-) 

"I don't believe you." 

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OMG 

shit, that's a quote? 

People hate this war and hate GWB, and every time he ... reminds people that the 

Democrats want to bring the troops home it makes them like Democrats. - Atrios 

by atrexler on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:55:53 AM EDT 


that's the way i heard it 



by Carl Nyberg on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:06:18 PM EDT 


Sessions? 

Really? Oh man, Gonzo is not just toasted, he's crumbled and fed to the birds... 



Sessions is going to kick him! Searched my memory, like the delete button on email, 

but its there abu, hotel gitmo has lots of space for obstruction 



What is he doing then...? 

What the hell is he doing all day if he doesn't know what the qualifications of his 

Assistant AG's are? Is he not talking to these folks? There are only 90 something of 

them. What kind of a manager doesn't know who his employees are and what is going 

on with their work? 



holy sh!t did Sessions just ask a REAL QUESTION? 

I'm amazed! 

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He was a US Attorney (3+ / 0-) 

He takes it personally, like Whitehouse. 

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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Sessions has expressed displeasure in Gonzo's truthiness before. 




Gonzo shut Sessions concerns down earlier 

He was probably pissed b/c gonzo brushed off his concerns about the Case of the 

Border Patrol Agents earlier....he may go for gonzos head now. 

by Northstar on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:57:15 AM EDT 


Ladies and gents THIS IS THE Chief Law 

Enforcement Officer of the United States. I think I am going to vomit. 



I'm not sure what is worse 

The fact this man is thoroughly humililating himself today and doesn't realize it. Or he 

does realize it and doesn't care? 



It's the Bush Administration Diet 

Revulsion and self-loathing helps you drop all your excess weight...and pride in 

America. 

by StephNW4Clark on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:52:06 AM EDT 


I know... 



Well, 

(1+ / 0-) 

he has no accountability of anything. No leadership, what so ever. 

He just said "I cannot testify to anything I cannot recall." Rat Bastard. 

(0 / 0) 

we cannot have someone in that office who has a serious case of Alzheimers, so bye 

bye Gonzo. 



Feingold (9+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

F: I hear alot in my state about these border guards and look forward to hearings 

F: you've sworn an oath, you have duty to tell truth in press conference, in OpEd in 

newspaper... don't you? 


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04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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G: i endeavor to be truthful 

F: re: wisconsin, case of georgia thompson, a lot of attention during 2006. on april 5 

ordered ms thompson be released. appellate judges said evidence was extr weak, case 

should not have been brought. prosec - done for political reasons? 

G: when anyone alleges there may have been politics involved, what does that say 

about the ... 

F: i'm not alleging.. can't you see how this AG situation causes people to wonder 

G: i can't tell you 

F: trying to highlight what a problem this whole scandal has caused 

F: are you planning to have office of prof resp review georgia thomp case... hope you 

will 

F: when can we expect response to our letter 

G: recent request, voluminous amt of records, trying to do what we can 

F: sampson testified he kept you informed, did you ever ask for specific info about who 

he was speaking to and how he was following up 

G: i told sampson to make sure WH was appropr advised, talk to senior dept officials 

most qualified 

... 

F: did you probe the info that sampson provided you? 

G: don't recall having specific questions. do recall that i was not surprised to see 5 of 

the names on list 

F: dep AG, about process that was underway 

F: did you ever talk to head of office of USAs or anyone beside mr saMPSON 

G: when i recall conv with mr sampson, that's what i recall 

.... 

F: when final decisions were made, did you request or were you given justif for each of 

the decisions 

G: don't recall, was given list of consensus recommendations 

F: since you had so little to do with decisions, did so little, you had no basis for telling 

american people... 

G: senior leadership had lost confidence in these indivi, clearly i understood that senior 

leadership, indiv that would know better than i 

F: you say this now but you could have taken immed steps to correct this OpEd, could 

have issued correction but you let this info sit out there and harm reputations... 

G: i know the basis on which i made my decision, not aware of anything that would 

support alleg that improper reasons, but just to be sure have asked office PR and IG to 

look into this 

F: i apprec that sentiment at this point but you don't know who made it onto that list 

G: asked dep AG if he stood by that decison, that's his view and my view, the decision 

stands, regret the way it was implemented, there were obv mistakes in the review 

proces 

F: i'm obv going to take that as an answer of No to the question i asked... you had no 

idea about these people, that doesn't cut it with me 

G: there is some doc with respect to obscenity... there is doc abotu these reasons... 

there may be other info in the minds of ... 

F: there's no cred to the notion that those justif were reasons for removing, no doc that 

you knew 

G: justified in relying upon senior officials of dept... did have in my mind WRT five indiv 

F: thank you mr chairman for the extra time 




04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Huh? 

(1+ / 0-) 

"I endeavor to be truthful" 

HOW HARD IS IT TO NOT LIE? "Endeavor to be truthful" 

Does that mean his natural state is to lie like a friggin' rug? 

I don't know why that ONE LINE has pissed me off so severely, but it seems to sum up 

the basic mendacity of this whole bunch. 

AAARRRGGGGGGHHHH!!!! 

It's time for a president to to ask Americans to be patriotic about something other than 

war -- John Edwards 

by ThirstyGator on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:55:22 AM EDT 


Variation "I have no memory"... n/t 



No memory...no memory...no memory...liar, liar 



"I have searched my mind" 

"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison 

by Anderson Republican on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:50:52 AM EDT 


I have no recollection of 

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Pity he didn't bring a flashlight. Or a motion sensor, for that matter. 

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anything that happened during this presidency... 




Wow, Sessions defecting to our side? nt 

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Sessions not on phone night before? (0 / 0) 

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He's asking okay questions...Abu said he "had no memory"..Let's add no shame, no 

facts and no soul.... 


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Even Jazzy Jeff is giving him shit 



Breaking the circular argument 

Pardon the paraphrasing. 

AGAG: "I decided who would be fired. Of course I just accepted a bunch of 

reccomendations I never bothered to even look at, basically." 

SRF: "So in other words, you are perhaps the least qualified person on Earth to offer an 

opinion as to the reasons why these people were let go. Yet you let several honorable 

DoJ civil servants twist in the wind. Unacceptable." 

A little Wisconsin common sense adjoined to a Senator with backbone. 





Do you dispute Battle's testimony 

"I'm concerned about your recollection. That's troubling to me." 

Holy Shit! 




should 

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Should a man with this bad a memory be attorney general? 





Sessions is actually being somewhat tough 

when sessions refuses to don the knee-pads, you know things are bad. 




Absolutely. Maybe some in the GOP have decided (3+ / 0-) 

that Fredo is too much of a liability to protect any longer. 


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He's a former USA 

so he might have some respect for the professionals. 

"The mission of the press is to spread culture while destroying the attention span." -- 

Karl Kraus 

paralepsis 

by kellogg on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:54:21 AM EDT 


Is, uh, it, um, just, uhh, um, me? 

Or is Sessions deliberately s-p-e-a-k-i-n-g very slowly? I guess he wants his window to 

just go away. 



Stand up comics 

have to learn this technique to fill their onstage time slot. 




"I've searched my mind for that answer." 

Nice imagery, Gonzo. 

by Vaughan19 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:51:28 AM EDT 


Yeah, like Dubya searching the Oval Office for 

WMDs..."Nope, nothing here..." 






Sessions will be getting right wing hate mail 

not deferential enough to Gonzo for an R 



Ok .. what woke up Sessions? (0 / 0) 

He isn't going by the script. 


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a group of Repugs is calling for resignation 



Makes "Hell of a Job" Brownie look good 

For a AG he sure makes a lousy witness. 

by Wujiman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:51:36 AM EDT 


Sessions 



I was busy, busy, busy, busy, busy 




Wow 

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"I'm concerned about your recollection." 

Good for him - again. (God I feel sick saying that) 

too busy to remember a meeting about firing a bunch of people. 

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even Sessions is surprised by his failure to recollect something not so long ago. Gonzo: 

I was busy. 



Well, it WAS 

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"I've searched my mind..." (5+ / 0-) 

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around Thanksgiving. I'm sure he as planning the turkey dinner and deciding what 

stores to go to on Black Friday. 

I wonder what that was like? Spelunking in Carlsbad Caverns with a tea candle? THe 

mind boggles. 






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We had National Mental Awareness Day! 

Good one Gonzo. 





he said meth n/t 




No recollection of a meeting... 

regarding meeting with Sampson. God knows, I've looked and I've looked in my dark, 

tawdry heart but I can't find a recollection of a memory of a meeting. 

Sessions: Not long ago, November of last year. 

abu-> Don't recall. I've searched the valise of my mind. And I can't recall. At some 

murky indeterminate point I recall Sampson coming forward. 

abu I thought you were an aspen like us. I looked at my calender. Why are you doing 

this? Why is my voice raising two octaves? Why is this happening? Rove told me the 

fix was in. 




Aw... POOR POOR Gonzales... 

He was BUSY! He ha a lot going ON!! Waaaah. 

Shame on NBC. 



Have you no heart? 

Attorney Generalin' -- like Presidentin' -- is HARD WORK! 





Heh. (2+ / 0-) 

It just AMAZES me that he fell back on how he had "a lot going on". Simple fact: When 

you run an organization, you prioritize. If there were other pressing priorities, Gonzales 

could have EASILY postponed firing any AGs until he could provide it his own proper 

attention. What a stupid, self-immolating whine that was. 

I love it. ;-) 

Shame on NBC. 

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Who Knew? 

17. Ne5 

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Sessions: "I'm more concerned about your recollection Attorney General." 





It was a 9 A.M. meeting on a Monday morning, 

and he doesn't remember having to be on time coming to work that day! 




Sessions: I'm worried about your recollection. 

It was an important mtg. Not long ago. I find it troubling. 



Is anyone else playing a drinking game? Or is it 

too early over there? I've only just got here, and I think I'll be trashed by part 10... 

What a piece of shit. 

Bush the lesser, horrid king besmeared with blood Of human sacrifice, and parent's 

tears. [apologies to Milton] 

by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:59:04 AM EDT 


2 year process - and never spoke with the USAs 




They're getting him now... 

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the one and only IMPEACHMENT KING, Jeff Sessions! Wow... he's sure making the 

excuses, huh? 

Went to Mexico and he was too busy to remember. 

Thanks Mr. Sessions... good job. You make him look like a liar so we don't have to!!! 

by victoria2dc on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:52:16 AM EDT 


Jeff Sessions..... God Bless You. (11+ / 0-) 

It's out there. The very meeting in which the DECIDER decided, he has NO 


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RECOLLECTION WHATSOEVER. This after great searching of his memory. Fabulous. 

I guarantee 100% the impeachment/resignation (in disgrace) of Cheney&Bush. I am the 

Hellhound of Impeachment and I WILL prevail. 

by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:52:16 AM EDT 


Gonzales on his not recalling... 

I don't remember my Nevember 27th meeting because of National Meth Awareness day 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



And the free samples were very tasty... n/t 



ABU: I searched my mind.... 

and found it missing since I have no recollection that I can't recall a meeting WRITTEN 

DOWN and I am unaware of any recollection of not recalling it...until now! Shape shifter 

extrordanaire! 





Session is surprisingly good 

"what concerns me is your recollection - this wasn't that long ago and it was an 

important issue" 

Really, he's just about calling him a liar, right there. Good on him. 



Maybe Sessions want Fredo's job 

gag gag gag 




amazing...Sessions is staying on Nov. mtg. 



Miss Blue, if you're reading this (0 / 0) 

you need to contact me 

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by pitbullEmily on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:52:50 AM EDT 


Abu is toast. Even Sessions is troubled. 

Doing way too many "do not recalls" to be AG> He can quit or be fired when he gets 

back to his office. 


leader (1840-1904) 



Yet Gonzo recites his calemdar for that week 


will. 



Sessions... 




Sessions prosecuted voter fraud cases 




you're up for diary #7, jancw 




seven up 

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now going to tell abu what he should have done. Sessions does seem a little pissed. 

aghghg...what's happening to me. 

he sounds a bit pissed. 

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unrecommend 4, 5 and 6 please 


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Abu: "I have searched my memory, (1+ / 0-) 

there is nothing in there." Nothing at all. He can only recall that he can't recall and 

has no memory of anything. What more do we need to know, for god's sake. He has 


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no memory. He can only testify to what he recalls. He has searched his memory. He 

doesn't recall. Sessions is worried about this. "Would you dispute Mr. Battle"? Abu 

would, but can't recall. Sessions expresses concern for Abu's memory lapses. Abu had 

other stuff going on; how could he be expected to recall everything. Now Sessions is 

refreshing his memory about the events. Still, Abu cannot recall. 




Gonzo is pulling a Reagan 




But he's too young to be senile 




"ah think they shoulda been inquahred about, 

these election-fraud cases..." 




I notice that some of these Republicans 




Sessions is actually giving him a hard time! 





He IS! (0 / 0) 

Shame on NBC. 

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that are former USAs themselves aren't just lying down for Gonzo on this matter 

Gonzo can not remember the meeting going over the names to be fired, and Sessions 

can not quite believe it either... 

I'm shocked. I'll stop hating Jeff Session for a bit, I think. I thought his admonition 

which clearly showed Gonazales' inexperience was hysterical. Sssssmack! 




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sessions asking about the pressers 

that gonzo contradicted himself... 

gonzo has "no recollection of the meeting, schedule shows a 9am meeting nov 27 - i 

have no recollection...my understanding is i reviewed mr. sampson's PUBLIC testimony - 

but anyway, i have no recollection of that meeting!" 

sessions: do you recall who was there - 

gonzo - i have no MEMORY of this but the CALENDAR shows... (lists the attendees) 

plead stupidity please! 

sessions: this was not that LONG ago - (sessions: nov 27) 

sessions cont. sampson indicates this was a tremendous decision - political backlash - 

you don't RECALL that? 

abu: i can only testify what i can recall - and i don't recall the contents of this 

meeting. 

sessions": battle said you were there most of the time...do you dispute? 

abu; i have no reason to dispute HIS recollection 

sessions: it's YOUR memory that concerns me... 

abu: a lot of other weighty issues - inauguration of pres . of mexico, etc. 

sessions; indicated you made a phone call to sen kyl regarding... 

abu: yes, that was made on dec. 7 regarding dec we made. 

sessions: concerns about vote fraud - border patrol agents - nothing wrong with 

questioning by a u.s. senator, but mr. iglazias should have been INQUIRED upon about 

prosecuting these cases - I've prosecuted these cases - delicate matter, somebody 

should have MET with him to ascertain his methods. 

abu: simply inquiring ..... duh - he is rambling killing time - 

soon as i got arthritis, most of my caps ran away from home! those that remain, 

huddle together in fear! 

by edrie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:54:28 AM EDT 


While I think of it 

Somebody should superimpose Gonzales's comment about the 'plan being executed' on 

December 7 with the images of ANOTHER plan that got executed on December 7. 

The image is apt. 

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"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison 

by Anderson Republican on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:54:31 AM EDT 


Sessions thinks it's improper 




Shorter Sessions (0 / 0) 

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for Feingold to inquire about appointees that he recommended 

"I know politically-motivated 'voter fraud' cases. I've pressed politically-motivated 

'voter-fraud' cases. This isn't even how you run politically-motivated 'voter-fraud' cases, 

you incompetent." 


04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Even Sessions is being a little tough! 




Why is Partison Protection More Important than 

Objectivity even when the person in question is harmful to the nation? 

I just can never get my brain around thaat logic. 

::::: 




Because it's part of the GOP Initiation Ceremony 

to swear loyalty to party before country... 

by kurious on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:08:03 PM EDT 


Holy crap. so even Sessions ain't buying the BS? 

Damn. Gonzo! 

(I can't stay away from the live blogs... must go back to work!) 




DEAR DIARIST... 

...i must repeat my request that you and the future diarists request the the diaries NOT 

BE REC"D at all since there are not three on the 'top list' and the only reason to rec a 

diary is to get it on the top list before it sinks from the 'recent' list. 

since a new diary is added before the PRIOR one sinks, you are only clogging the top 

list... 

as a courtesy to those who have taken sometimes hours to write an actual diary, please 

begin adding that to the diaries... 



dude 

Give up.. 

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agreed (0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

I'll do that by the time mine comes up. The mojo can be dispensed in the first 

comment/tip jar. Get that comment ready before you let people know about your diary. 


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And I will repeat as well 

The accepted and longstanding procedure here is for people to unrecommend the 

completed live blog and recommend the new one. It has always worked well, and I 

don't see a reason to change now. 



Hey......... 

I didn't recommend ANY of them. 

Support citizen journalism, every little bit helps. 

by dlcampbe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:16:50 PM EDT 


Valid point 

The problem is getting the current active thread where it will be seen. If not up on the 

list others just go and start new ones. Maybe a single 'master diary' that sits on the rec 

list, actively discourages comments, and is frequently edited to point to subsequent 

active threads? 




i have been advised to 

by james risser on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:07:28 PM EDT 


Blog 7 is up 

STFU 

so, i shall. my apologies for bothering people about it; if that is the way it goes, that is 

the way it goes. 

thanks. 

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Had to post it early because the server is starting to hang on me. Anyone else going 

down or going slow? 

Part 7 is here when you need it! 



400 comments, it's ok to post now. (0 / 0) 




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please 

unrecommend 4, 5 and 6 




jancw, you're at bat - other diarists take note 

To other diarists, get that thing ready at the start of the one before you. It will take 

that long, having done this before. 



PLEASE UNRECOMMEND 

and on to #7...thanks! 




Oh man 

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You know it's bad when Sessions is making him sputter. 

Questioning his recollection. AG is saying there was a lot going on. 

Gee, where have we heard that before? 



Ha, Sessions actually had to hold his hand and... 

by IndySteve on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:05 PM EDT 


Oh, he recalls conversation with Sen Pryor (1+ / 0-) 


(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

S: WRT to Igelsias, there were concerned about voter fraud. I would suggest there is 

nothing wrong with questioning a USA by anyone. I think he should have been inquired 

about the voter fraud. Sometimes they look like they are easy to prosecute. It's a 

delicate matter. Someone should have meet with him. 

AG: It's one thing to ask about generally, it's another to ask about a specific case. 

That's really dangerous. 

S: That may be but they have to defend what they do. They should be tougher. 

There was a suggestion from Meiers that ALL the USAs should be fired. What did you 

say to them. 

AG: I didn't support it. I don't think it was her idea. 

I never liked this idea. I think it's important for USAs to be appointed. Frankly, I think 

it was a dumb idea. 

keep him quiet! Gonzo is pathetically inept. 

...but can't remember talking to anybody in his own damn department. 


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Talking about firing all 93 attys 

And how he rejected it. Wow this is the first question he's answered honestly. He 

doesn't fumble around and stutter. Very telling. 

by bahaba on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:57:07 AM EDT 


Said the idea 

of changing the USA's without senate confirmation was a dumb idea (bamm KkkKarl!) 

He just pissed off KkKarl...this was KkkKarl's idea 



Sessions: Miers suggested all USA should be fired 

Thought you responded well. 

AG: MRIT (my rec is that) that wouldn't be a good idea. 

Sessions: Sampson said should be under the new act. 

AG: I never liked this idea. Thinks USA's should be confirmed. And thought was a 

dumb idea. Senate would just change the law. First opportunity was with Griffin in AK. 

Said would put in as an interim basis (according to old law that allowed interim of 120 

days). Pryor didn't vouch support, so knew would have to look for someone else. 



Waiting for Senator Whitehouse, to turn The White 

House, Blue! 



Is this true? 



by wolverinethad on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:58:04 AM EDT 


I mae the decision... (1+ / 0-) 

Shame on NBC. 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

Gonzo is claiming that under the law that the Attorney General could appoint an interim 

USA for 120 days. I thought that was the domain of the federal magistrate in that 

district. 

Lawyers, law students, anyone? 

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But i don't know when and there were decisions made in order to make my decision 

which I can't recall. 


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Leahy - you don't recall the Nov 27th meeting 

answer,I don't recall when the decision was made 



"I recall making a decision, I just don't 

know when I made it." 

Leahy is not going to let that go. 

Schumer up. 




He Doesn't Know When The Decision Was Made! 

How can you not throw stuff at the stage? 



Schumer- excellent question 

pointing out Fredo's statement about Lam knowing her immigration record was suspect 

(from non-DOJ sources) doesn't explain why no one from DOJ ever talked to her about 

it 

The people who brought you the War on Terror are the same ones who brought you the 

War on Drugs. 

by Terminus on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:59:56 AM EDT 


Schumer - Carol Lam accutely aware of concerns 

you just said 

by merbex on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:16 PM EDT 


If I was Gonzales (2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Sampson directly contradicts you on this 

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Gonzo says he will not comment on Sampson's testimony 

I'd be seeking medical treatment for my memory problems. 


early 1960s 

by escapee on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:56 PM EDT 



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Schumer lays the smackdown 

Gonzo totally contradicting Sampson. 

by phil333 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:59 PM EDT 


here 

new thread is up 





Schumer - evryone we have talked to disagrees 

with you about carol lam; 

Gonzo is dancing on the head of the pin 



Feinstein now allowed to question to back up 

Carol Lam 

Gonzo tapping dancing now 



Is your brain scrambled yet? 

Schumer's got him fried. 




Gonzo is very agitated about this line of 

questioning. 

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"Who is telling the truth around here" - Schumer 



Who's running dept? Answer: ... 

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"Sampson when things are going badly, and Me, the great Gonzo, when things are 

going well..." 



I have no idea what to do to make the title (1+ / 0-) 


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of the diary update on the rec list.... 



by asimbagirl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:23 PM EDT 


Were you honest to members of Congress? 

About Pryor; AG lied to me 



omg...schumer 

"we'll get it to you. now, about my question..." 

lol 

that was fantastic! 



by Cedwyn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:06:07 PM EDT 


I love Chuck Schumer 

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of 

doubt. Bertrand Russell 

by accumbens on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:21 PM EDT 


Love is a strong word....like him in this 

particular instance. Schumer has his bad side like dissing the netroots and putting down 

progressives. 



Yes 

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Chuck Schumer just nailed him NT (1+ / 0-) 

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it's a "situational" love ... to echo Grahm's last comment to Gonzo. 






04/19/2007 02:01 PM 

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Schumer tearing him up about plan... 

to circumvent the Senate on AG appt. "Just who is running the Dept?" Incompetence 

rules the Bush Admin. That's what we get with a lightweight pResident... 



Enter Dobbs the Bugler 

Sound retreat! 





Gonzo doesn't know when to shut up.... 

even fights with his friends on the Committee who are trying to lead him to water. But 

let's get to the bottom of this....politicization of the Dept. and using the AG as a 

political tool to intimidate US Atty. 



Graham's expessions! NT 

by Wujiman on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:16:26 PM EDT 


Remember: HrdcoreConservatives are out to get.... 

Gonzo as well. They want a MORE Conservative AG. Keep that in mind..... 



Grahm - never fired someone because 

they wouldn't play politics. That's right - from what he's testified - not knowing 

anything - he had no reasons at all. 





I'll be a good boy. 

He's pathetic. 





Put down... (0 / 0) 

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the joint Alberto! 

Marijuana causes memory loss! 

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He says He forgot the meeting 

because of National Meth Day. 

Musta been a hell of a binge 



Nat'l Meh Day (15+ / 0-) 

I think. 

meh 

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Damn... 



Jancw #9 is an OPEN position. No Gonzo 





I think Gonzo is busy today. :-) 




God I am the biggest idiot. 





Also, 

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I had forgotten National Meth Day... 

I consulted my Blackberry and all record of it seems to be missing... 

I JUST got it. drational must think I'm absolutely nuts. All of you too. Mea Culpa LOL. 

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will do (0 / 0) 

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Though I suppose you should just bump everyone up one. 



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shayera moves to #9 

So that is not open. At this rate, though, we will use 19 diaries, so feel free to 

volunteer. 

by Uniter on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:39 PM EDT 


Got it 





Phewww! Thanks. 

Sessions isn't being completely supportive. Has made some good points re: voter fraud 

issue. 





Up for reelection? 




We're taking him out. 


Heschel 



Your list is incomplete 

Please append: 

Go Ron Sparks!! 






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We are only two journals from #9, 

who will fill the slot? Any volunteers? Respond here if somebody has volunteered 

elsewhere, please. 

by Mardish on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:46 PM EDT 


I have 19 ready, I can just change the number 

if you need. 




do that 



by donnamarie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:28 PM EDT 


Will do! n/t 




Ok you're elected! 

I missed your post. 



No big. I was in the right place at the 

right time. 

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I moved you up in the list above 

by jancw on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:59 PM EDT 


You can bump me to number 9 if you don't get one. (0 / 0) 

Let me know by updating the list in the diary. 

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never mind 



there's lots more available! 

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No money down! 



Thanks mucho - updated! 



Thanks for being on top of this 

due to my stupidity LOL. 

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no stupidity involved 

there's sort of a nervous high that you get live blogging, eh? 



Yea, it's like I need a cigarette 

when it's done.... 

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Or a shot of good single malt 

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I know I'm relieved my part's done (4+ / 0-) 

First live blogging experience - it was fun, but PHEW! 



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Thanks, jancw! 

well done! 

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peace 

nice job... 


The moment there is suspicion about a person's motives, everything he does 

becomes tainted - Gandhi 

by kriser on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:07:25 PM EDT 


mmmm, Balvenie DoubleWood!!! 



by kriser on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:01 PM EDT 


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That's my fave too! 





He remembers something!!! 




I know, I'm still having palpitations 

thanks for volunteering. I've been lucky enough to follow it live on CSPAN3 from the 

comfort of my sofa....but have also enjoyed following everyone's comments!! 

thanks asimbagirl! 

mmmmmmmmmm 

He rejected firing everyone. The Republic saved by abu. 

over that one little nugget. 




Wow, where did they take the old Sessions? (13+ / 0-) 

He's being harder than Feingold... 

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Ron Sparks' challenge stiffened his spine 





Gonzo: I didn't like the idea of going around 

the Senate when appointing USAs. (I guess thats why they did it then) 




Probably because he'd have to talk to Dems 

and that would be scary. 



by Lashe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:05:40 PM EDT 


does he mean 

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"going around the Senate" as in approaching various Senators to get their approval, or 

does he mean "going around" as "circumventing"? 

"People like Carl [Sagan] and Dawkins are more serious about God than people who 

just go through the motions. They are real seekers."--Ann Druyan 

by ubertar on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:14:55 PM EDT 


did he just imply that contacting iglesius 

about a specific case was too delicate? Are they hanging domenici out there? I got the 

impression that this statement wasn't caclulated, that Sessions screwed up his softball 

question 



by eparrot on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:56:23 AM EDT 


Someone tallying.. (3+ / 0-) 

All the variations of "don't recall whether I was aware" statements? 

Such a shame he wasn't able to utilize all this time before testimony to clear any of 

that up. 

by Gryn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:56:33 AM EDT 



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Sounds like something Dana Milbank would do. 




Sessions used to be a USA 

But he's obviously allied with Gonzo & not his former colleagues. 

I wish I could say I'm surprised. 

Can't wait for Ron Sparks to light him up in 2008! 


Heschel 



really? 

I've been shocked that Sessions has been has tough as he has been. 




uh 

He made an effort, but not enough. 

In my mind anyway. 

He's got lots of $$ but relatively low approval ratings in the state. With a strong Dem 

candidate and national party backing, I think we can take him out. 


Heschel 



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Is he saying this is a dumb idea, but he went ahead with it anyway? I wasn't paying full 

attention... 



I think that's what I just heard too! 


anonymity..." 



Recap? (2+ / 0-) 

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I missed the last two threads feeding lunch to my son. Plus, my background a/v feed 

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I did just hear Gonzo say he didn't like this whole idea from the beginning - did I hear 

that right? 

Has there been any more attention paid to the bill that allowed appointments to bypass 

confirmation? 


anonymity..." 



These threads are going so fast that I 

click into the latest - go away for ten minutes and come back to a brand new one. 



If Abu didn't 



Sessions walked him right up to denying 

by Compost On The Weeds on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:39 PM EDT 


Watch the mind of the Top Law Enforcement 

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by DanC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:57:30 AM EDT 


Well 

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like the part of the Patriot Act that allowed the DOJ to appoint USA's w/o Senate 

confirmation, why in the hell did he use it? 

that he used Patriot Act, and he could not exactly deny. Leahy drove this home. 

official in the country in action. Be afraid. Be very afraid. 

Just what CAN he recall? 

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He did remember National Meth Day. 

by J Royale on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:13 PM EDT 


He seems to be good at remembering (1+ / 0-) 


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the importance of forgetting (or claiming to forget) inconvenient facts. 

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Gonzo: says he consulted with Pryor. 




THAT conversation he recalls n/t 




Schumer up. 





Server is going really really slow 

So I posted it rather than have it crash. Should probably keep on 6 for a while longer 

and use this when it all comes to a grinding halt there. 



Leahy... 

Don't recall November meeting. How can you recall making decision. 




Best moment yet! 

How do you know you made the decision? 





Sessions > Schumer > Graham > Durbin (1+ / 0-) 

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doubtful. 

Schumer's up next. 

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thank you 

by OLinda on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:58:06 AM EDT 


He recalls conversation with Sen Pryor 




Leahy: HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU MADE THE DECISION? 




heh 

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to all the bloggers today. Blog 7! Wow! I just got to work and tuned in. I am so sorry I 

just missed Feingold. There is sure a lot to go back and read through. 

...but not with any of his employees. 

"We may go back to that. Count on that." 

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Was that laughter I heard? 



yeah, it was me from my desk in STL! 



Seemed so...watch Hannity et al to latch onto 

that. Klieg Lights! Drama! and Laughing Liberals! 

by nogamez on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:04 PM EDT 


Leahy smacked it down, 

though...out of "respect" 


by condoleaser on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:28 PM EDT 


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Schumer - NOW 




GO CHUCK GO 

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"I recall making the decision... 

"You have to keep your knee on [Bush's] windpipe until the danger is past." -- Garry 

Trudeau 

by tbetz on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:58:34 AM EDT 


"I do not recall when any decision was made" n/t 



Well, if Bush or Rove made the decision, 


by lysias on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:11 PM EDT 


Re: Senator Sessions 

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go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go for the 

jugular. 

... but I don't recall when the decision was made." 

Right there, he should offer his resignation. 

he might well not know when it was made. And he certainly wouldn't be able to tell us 

when it was made. 

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Did he have a recurring role on Will and Grace at one time? If not maybe it was his 

twin. Wish I had a picture. Does anyone know who I’m talking about? 

Republicans, so long captivated by a turd-blossom, now find themselves trapped in a 

pile of shit surrounded by maggots. 

by enough already on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 11:58:42 AM EDT 


Abu: "I recall making the Decision" 

I'm so glad he remembers something. 

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because his chief job today is to deflect blame and attention from Bush, Rove, and the 

White House. 


by lysias on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:50 PM EDT 


Schum is up!! 

Let's go!! 





Sampson versus Gonzo 

Schumer brings up Sampson's testimony that Lam didn't know she was performing 

poorly; Gonzo testified 30 minutes that she was "accutely aware". Schumer wants a 

resolution. 



by rcald on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:17 PM EDT 


Here's a pic from earlier today 


by FGFM on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:27 PM EDT 


Schumer!! 

I am PSYCHED I am back in time to see this..... 

Lisa 

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Chuck is contradicting Gonzo with Sampson 




I recall making the decision (6+ / 0-) 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 

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I just don't remember when, where, regarding whom, or whether we should order 

chinese take-out or papa john's 




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Saying there was communication 

with Carol Lam -- prove it! 





I don't think we need to recc 

the liveblog threads anymore. They're moving pretty fast as it is. I don't know if anyone 

has checked the average time of activity on each of these so far, But I don't think it's 

more than 15-20 minutes, max. 




You told Sessions that Lam knew about "problems" 

Sampson (your guy) said no one spoke to her about it. 

Good job Schumer 




up. 

Schumer... 




Schumer 

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Interchange...Lam acutely aware. Sampson's public testimony...to the contrary. Think 

we did not talk to Lam. You just hung Sampson out to dry as being the center of the 

decision. 

abu-> what I recall and looking at document. There was communication about 

immigration. From congress members. 

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by gchaucer2 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:16 PM EDT 


shorter Schumer: stop bullshitting us! n/t (9+ / 0-) 


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all these other folks, Battle, Sampson, Lam contradict him. 

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Ugh 

by tbone64 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:00:39 PM EDT 


Abu 


by mrblifil on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:01 PM EDT 


Is abu speaking for Carol Lam? 

by flipflopper on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:01 PM EDT 


Schumer... 


by mayan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:13 PM EDT 


Circles 

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This just makes me so sad and sick. This guy wouldn't last 30 minutes in a sales 

meeting with my boss. He's the top cop???? Let's get this country back TODAY!!!! 

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leaning on the letters from Issa. Issa's not in the DOJ last I checked. 

I am sure she was not aware of the AG's new immigration stance. Am I lost on this? 

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everyone else is contradicting you. 

abu-> I remember being concerned about her numbers. I believe she had knowledge. 

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He NEVER says anything to explain any of this! Just talking in circles... 

by cohe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:17 PM EDT 


Back on CSPAN while the senate votes 


Heschel 

by countrycat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:19 PM EDT 


Shumer: Sampson said no one (14+ / 0-) 

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gave Lam notice of concerns about immigration enforcement. But you just said she 

was acutely aware. And Sampson was central in the process. 

AG: from looking at docs, was communication with Lam about immigration, and from 

Congressmen. So Lam was aware of interest. 

Shumer: Sampson says wasn't aware. When DOG has a problem with an atty, doesn't 

tell a Congressman to go tell her. 


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AG: In a mtg, expressed concern. Expected that concern to be communicated to her. 

by think blue on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:21 PM EDT 


What meeting, and with whom? 




Schumer is going 

to kill this SOB 





Everything is "looking at the documents" 

cant Gonzo actually remember anything himself? 


by FleetAdmiralJ on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:39 PM EDT 


It's Perfectly Clear Now That 

Mr. Gonzales ha(d) absolutely no control over the Department he was appointed to 

oversee. 

"Shill," I hope becomes the word to describe his 'performance.' 

Note the absence of "I" or "I decided" or "I did." 

If he's not impeached or does not step down, a great misdeed will have been 

successfully perpetrated by the Bush Administration- one that will be abused by future 

Administrations. 

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by nowheredesign on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:41 PM EDT 


Incompetence may keep him out of jail... 

That can be the only reason he is making himself look like he has no control. 

-6.5, -7.59. All good that a person does to another returns three fold in this life; harm 

is also returned three fold. 

by DrWolfy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:05:47 PM EDT 


I don't think he's got the brains to do so.. (0 / 0) 

he's programmed. He won't deviate from the program. (IMHO) 

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[ Parent | Reply to This ] 

Notice how fiesty he tries to get 

when being questioned by a Democrat? 




Schumer - Gonzo just backpedaled big time 

now Carol Lam was aware of "interest" based on contact by Congress people, as 

opposed to being "acutely aware" like he told Feinstein. 



by eparrot on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:47 PM EDT 


Who commented on Lam? female voice n/t 




Feinstein... 

Pen Rai! 

by Sanuk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:21 PM EDT 


Feinstein 



Senator Feinstein 


by John DE on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:35 PM EDT 


feinstein n/t 


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FEINSTEIN FOR PREZ! n/t 

by kN3eLb4Z0d on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:52 PM EDT 


Mr AG this is a serious hearing 

you have been asked to prepare. 

Can't you get your story straight. 


by enough on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:01:57 PM EDT 


GO CHUCK! 



He's PISSED 

I love when Senator Schumer gets like this. 

by kml on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:09 PM EDT 


AG recalls stuff that bolsters his scenario 

but has faulty memory on a bunch of stuff. 





Hot damn! Re: Lam 

AG: "I didn't said that I did not say....." 

What a tool. 

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by TheCorkBoard on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:06 PM EDT 


Feinstein: Lam says she was not told(tagteam!) 




SHAYERA has #9. #19 is OPEN n/t (2+ / 0-) 

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Got it. 

Put in a plea for volunteers 



Schumer holding and Feinstein hitting 

double teaming 


by Da Rock on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:22 PM EDT 


Tagteam Shumer and Feinstein-pile driver 


by Horsehead on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:23 PM EDT 


Damnit damnit damnit, C-Span. It's 2007 already! 

Why the hell can't we get a halfway decent feed for something as important as this? I 

know bandwidth is expensive, but c'mon. This is horrible. 

Does anyone have the MSNBC link working? Must I go to audio only in order to hear 

the hearing? F@(# F&*@ FU(&! 

by oglongcock on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:34 PM EDT 


n/t 

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Try C-Span radio, if you have to go audio only 



I give up. Just went audio only. Seems better. 

What a damn shame. 

by oglongcock on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:06:07 PM EDT 


my realplayer cspan3 stream seems okay 




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Because they don't want you to 



feinstein interjects... 

Lamm never heard from Dept of Justice that they were dissatisfied with her immigration 

prosecutions. 

Gonzo ASSUMED she would've been informed since meetings he recalls discussed these 

concerns. 

by Wide Awake in NJ on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:40 PM EDT 


Carol Lam was aware of the concerns 

about immigration. 

But they didn't talk to her. 





Abu almost lost it there. 

by MajorFlaw on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:02:44 PM EDT 


He is getting obnoxious 

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"We Should Have Done a Better Job" 

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This ought to be on every desk in the Bush Administration. Kinda like "The Buck Stops 

Here" on Truman's desk. 


by GreenSooner on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:01 PM EDT 


"we should have done A job" (1+ / 0-) 

Hard to say they should "do better", when they haven't bothered to DO at all, yet. 



by Lashe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:55 PM EDT 



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In fact.... 




Schumer and Feinstein 




abu's voice... 




Peace. 

They don't recall whether or not they have begun doing it yet. 

double-teaming Abu, nailing him to the fucking table on Abu's lie about Lam's being 

"acutely aware," or aware at all, with the DoJ's "concern" about her immigration 

numbers 

raising to castrati. He's taking on Schumer. Good fucking luck, abu!! 

Shouldn't have DOJ have communicated. 

abu-> we should have done a better job. 

Fredo spinnin' and spinnin' 

Schumer and Feinstein are not at all happy with his lying about whether or not Lam was 

told about "concerns" regarding her performance. 

Perjury right there. 

by Jennifer Clare on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:25 PM EDT 


This is getting embarassing 

..if it wasn't already. 


by Scarce on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:26 PM EDT 


Sampson's testimony (7+ / 0-) 

used against him. 

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He is looking nervous and getting shrill. 

Interrupting Schumer? Wha? 


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He is going to be asked to shut the hell up. 

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Schumer: You've had months to prepare 

AG: Didn't say that Lam was aware that if numbers didn't change, she would have to 

resign. But was aware that there was concern about immigration. 

Schumer: Thinks the record will show what was said. 

AG: Why would Congressmen send letters... 

Shumer: Is that the policy when the DOJ has a problem... 

AG: conceded should have done better 

Schumer: Gets to who's telling the truth. 



Schumer is calling AG untruthful 





Schumer: 

Shame on NBC. 

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by RenaRF on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:42 PM EDT 


Hey - We missed you at the DC fundraiser 




I was in Baltimore - Tuesday night, 

Shame on NBC. 



So, Big Hair is back and standing tall. :) (0 / 0) 


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Mr. Gonzales, meet your ass. Here - I'll hand it to you. 

Though I gather your dance card is very busy, and for very serious reasons of late. 

right? My schedule work-wise has been insane and then yes - with the 

Lampson/Grandmother stuff, even more so. I'll be doing a diary either tomorrow or 

Saturday with updates on the Lampson request. It's good news. :-) 

I'll look forward to it. It's good to hear of good people receiving good things. 




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Stuff from FreeRepublic (Free Republic,freepers) 

(redundant title for anyone who's searching) 

More of what they're saying: 

Wow. I can’t take any more of this. Gonzales is pathetic. 

Later folks, I’ve had enough. Love you all, you know that, but Its like 

watching a murder while your tied to a chair. I can’t watch it any more. 

If he says" "I’m sorry", one more time...... ARGH!!!!!!!!! 

I hate to give the Dims a single win, but Fredo is at best incompetent 

and at worst derelict in his duty, ... 

I think I’ve had enough of this. Its like watching someone eat 

themselves to death. 

I keep wanting to tell Gonzo to stop talking. 

by ends with space on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:42 PM EDT 


I admire your fortitude! 


Heschel 



Wow. There's still some American left in them 

A bit. Sort of like goodness in Darth Vader at his absolute worst... :) 




Schumer: The New Hammer. (3+ / 0-) 

He is great. 

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leader (1840-1904) 

by highfive on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:43 PM EDT 



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Shumer... 

Who is telling the truth here? 

My answer is: not GONZO! 

by kimoconnor on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:45 PM EDT 


DAMNIT! 

Right as he's getting grilled HARD on lam, the connection goes out! GRRR!!! 


anonymity..." 

by Stand Strong on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:03:48 PM EDT 


CSPAN has it while the senate votes! 


Heschel 



link 

Try this 

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I am so happy 

I'm relying on my 31 year old boom box on NPR. Hope you get back into live stream. 





Starting to sound like a woman (voice pitch wise) 

NOT a sexist remark..... 

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Congressional letters 

and internal emails Carol Lam never read were proof that she was aware there was a 

concern. 




Is the department responsible for communicating 

with the US Attys? 




Schumer has taken this fool to the woodshed 

What a disgrace. 


by bumblebums on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:17 PM EDT 


msnbc link 

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by lgb30856 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:20 PM EDT 


Schumer reading 





slap gonzo Schumer! 

by Northstar on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:58 PM EDT 


"Can I see the transcript?" (4+ / 0-) 


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Sen. Pryor's statement on the Sentate floor -- Abu lied to me and Congress. 

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I think Schumer wants to slap Gonzo..... 

he is losing patience 

What a lame-ass delay tactic! He's going to read it to you! 




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schumer's kicking ass! 

"we'll get that to you. now, my question..." 

it was delicious 





ugh 

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I was just watching MSNBC and the reporter was saying that Gonzo had a firm grasp of 

the facts!! I couldn't believe my ears. He could not possibly be listening to the 

hearings to say something stupid like that. 


by BDA in VA on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:37 PM EDT 


Was he watching a ball game or something? n/t 




Note my sig line - Off Topic 

I'm seriously pissed at NBC and MSNBC over the VT shooter tapes. Have they lost all 

integrity? How can I watch Countdown with a clear conscience?? 

Shame on NBC. 



I hear you 





I need to write Olbermann. 

Shame on NBC. 

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Countdown last night was an abomination. 

I just can't believe he's down with that type of coverage. It's an abomination. 

Et Tu Keith? It was hard to take. 

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by enough already on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:50:10 PM EDT 


I'm right there with you, Rena. 

I am so tired of those giant pics of that insane fu**ing maniac being front and center 

on their website. I could puke. 

Of course, I'm sure it's what that freak would have wanted. 

"...hope is not the equivalent of optimism. Its opposite is not pessimism but despair. So 

I'm always hopeful." William Sloane Coffin 

by mxwing on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:13:49 PM EDT 


Still OT. 

Shame on NBC. 



pics are bad enough 





I notet it 

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Two of the students interviewed this AM are my heroes. They were speaking about a 

friend who had died in the second round of shooting. They were really honoring this 

friend, highlighting his fine qualities. It was quite a touching homage. 

Then the CNN tool, John Roberts (what an idiot) asks what they thought about the 

shooter videos sent to MSNBC. A paraphrase of their response: "We're not going to 

talk about that". 

In the break, they apparently told Roberts that they felt this Cho had already gotten 

way too much airtime and that the focus should rightfully be on honoring the legacies of 

the victims rather than making a legend out of a disturbed murderer. 

But then showing the video is......nothing, no words suffice. 

I don't want to see them and I cannot stand knowing what this must feel like to those 

who lost loved ones. 

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I Rec one of your other comments for that very reason. Worth repeating, 

Shame on NBC. 

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qualification to me. 




put a fork in abu 

lies, liar, lied, 

by dgone36 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:40 PM EDT 


Schumer is just pointing out 

what a liar he is. 


by Glic on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:42 PM EDT 


Gonzo is absurd in that now he wants to 

read intent into requests, but not in any of their documents. 




Senator Prior says you lied to him 

and to the American People. 

YEAH 

(5+ / 0-) 




Schumer is laying down the law 


by vigilant meerkat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:54 PM EDT 


You are vigilant today, O meerkat :) (3+ / 0-) 


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in no uncertain terms. I don't think they expected such blatant equivocation and even 

outright lying. The Senators seem a bit stunned. Gonzales is out of control right now. 

He can't let the point go, whatever the point is that he is trying to make. Schumer 

reminds him the issue is who is telling the truth here, and that he had a month to 

prepare and his answers are still contradict the facts. 




04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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I always get this way in the presence 

of dispicable liars, who are not even smart enough to couch their lies in convincing 

terms. Schumer is royally pissed. "It defies credulity." 




They Must Never Tell Truth. At Some Point They 

must flatly cease all cooperation. They have no choice. They were taking over the world 

not governing ineptly. It's a huge operation and the penalties for turning would be 

vastly greater than anything our system is practically able to inflict. 



by Gooserock on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:00 PM EDT 


Schumer to Gonzo--Shut the F*** up and listen 



by bewert on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:04:57 PM EDT 


obviously 

not in those words 

(3+ / 0-) 




Schumer reading Prior's statement... 

"...AG lied to me... lied to the people I represent." !!! Harsh. 



Schumer reading Pryor: AG lied to me 




Schumer (1+ / 0-) 

about to make Gonzales his b****. 

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I love how Gonzo always wants to see the document 

He won't answer any questions without seeing the documents Senators are reading 

from, but yet he won't provide the Senate with any of the documents they request from 

him. 


by Kagro X on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:05:16 PM EDT 


He knows damn well... 

what's in those documents... 

But he wants to read them in this hearing to run out the clock... 

Pen Rai! 



it also opens the door to debating something 

irrelevant or minimally relevant about the document. 





That's right; bog down the debate 

with off-topic irrelavent details. 




Delaying tactic 

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(4+ / 0-) 

He would like to eat up questioning time. 



He's acting like one of my Town Board members 

(a Republican). He's trying to filibuster, but I know you know this already. 


by LionelEHutz on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:07:06 PM EDT 


I don't know why (3+ / 0-) 

since he won't RECALL reading it at anytime. 




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by Its any one guess on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:07:10 PM EDT 


Shorter Abu Gonzales: 

It's Carol Lam's fault that we didn't tell her she had to toe the party line or be fired. 

Fuck you! 


by fanaa on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:05:22 PM EDT 


snark 

She shoulda asked 




Not really snark... 

That actually seems to be the jist of his testimony. 



by Ken in Tex on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:25:44 PM EDT 


The Feinstein, Feingold, Schumer Squad 

Has closed the door in their faces. It's all over but the cryin'. This is a great, great, 

great day indeed. 



Mild mannered, temperate Senator Pryor 

said you LIED. You LIED. 

What say you? 




Time to impeach Gonzalez he's caught red handed (11+ / 0-) 

in his web of lies. 

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(0 / 0) 

I hope Conyers has something ready over in the House. 


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Sentator Pryor stands by his words 

when he stated that the AG lied to me, he lied to the Senate and he lied to the 

American people, when he told me that he had no intention to bypass Senate 

confirmation on the USAs. 



by MichiganGirl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:05:53 PM EDT 


Schumer meant Dec. 05 - not 06 

when Patriot Act scheme was hatched. 


by annefrank on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:05:53 PM EDT 


throwing Sampson's testimony in his face 

What say you, Abu? 




FReep: 

(20+ / 0-) 

Gonzales is pathetic. 

Sorry to hear that. I haven't been watching it but I have to admit it's 

what I expected. 

Nobody has the fortitude to stand up to these congressional 

insurgents...and the few that do get dispatched with a vengance. 




Poor, poor 

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"insurgents" (7+ / 0-) 

Gore/{SpaceForRent} 

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(0 / 0) 

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freepers. Haaaahaaaa! You're brave, condoleaser. I can't bring myself into freeperland. 

is another word for a coequal branch of government?? 

by MichaelPH on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:12:34 PM EDT 



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Apparently 

insurgents are anyone you don't agree with. 

"Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence; Conservatism is distrust of the 

people, tempered by fear" Wm. Gladstone 

by lcbo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:35:40 PM EDT 


Yep... 

Of course we call them "Freedom Fighters". 

Unusual travel suggestions are dancing lessons from God. - Kurt Vonnegut 

by BobTrips on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:16:06 PM EDT 


Shumer is doing the 

gum it to death document. Go go go! 

Basically forcing him to through sampson under the bus, or himself. Who decided? 



Yes!!! 

Gum it to death 

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yeeah. shove his face in the dirt, Chuck! n/t 


by jkennerl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:07:25 PM EDT 


Schumer: Are you lying or just incompetent? 




Schumer nailing him! 

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Schumer: serious matter about intent (6+ / 0-) 

Pryor one of the most temperate in the Senate. "AG not only lied to me as a person, 

but lied to the Senate and to the people he represents" Sampson told Congress that 


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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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WH never opposed evading the congress for AK. AG goes along with it. Sampson is 

promoting this astonishingly perverse plan. Gum it to death to run out the clock. so 

Griffin could stay in without senate confirmation until end of Bush's term. Sampson 

says you talked to Pryor twice and you (AG) told him you wanted to go through senate 

confirmation. Did Sampson put this memo out completely on his own? You can't have 

it both ways. 



Gonzales is losing his cool. n/t 

by inclusiveheart on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:07:52 PM EDT 


period 

That 

goes well with losing your mind and your job 



Schumer just told Abu he shouldn't be AG 




On to the Patriot Act gig... 

Schumer...were you honest with Congress? 

abu...petutlant. 

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Schumer ...Pryor says that abu lied. LIED. 

Sampson says they wanted to get around Congress. abu became aware...Sampson still 

went forward. WE should gum it to death and run out clock. abu talked with Pryor and 

wanted to go through COngress. 

abu in trap...are you entirely incompetent or are you a lying fuck? Why not both? 

abu-> Sampson said I rejected his plan. 

Schumer -> Sampson said the opposite. 




Shumer sets it up 

you can't have it both ways. 



OOOH!!! (16+ / 0-) 

(12+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

(12+ / 0-) 

If you did this, you shouldn't be attorney general. If you don't remember, you shouldn't 

be attorney general. 


04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Gonzales YELLING!!! Shouting!! Hahahahaha!!!! 

Shame on NBC. 



Schumer is beating the hell out of this lying man 

and it couldn't have happened to a nicer (snark) man. I keep remember his smirk 

during his hearing, and latter hearings. He ain't smirking now. :) 



by adigal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:08:09 PM EDT 


This whole damned administration 


by murphy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:53 PM EDT 


Schumer: if you can't supervise your CoS 





ya can't have it both ways 

by Morgan in Austin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:08:10 PM EDT 


Peace. 

smirks all the fucking time and I, for one, am sick and tired of their fucking smirking at 

those of us who actually ARE patriotic and ARE trying to love this country. 

you shouldn't be AG. 

If you lied to Sen. Pryor you shouldn't be AG. 

. . and I don't think you should be AG . . 

-- Shumer 

(5+ / 0-) 

Fredo's getting petulant w/Schumer 



Petulant = pissed (2+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Gonzo, this is Congress, not Crossfire! 

He's trying to talk over Schumer. Bad idea. 




Finally, someone says: "You should not be AG" 

Gonzo getting hot under the collar. 

by dukane on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:08:18 PM EDT 


Schumer 

If you said that your cheif of staff is making major policy decisions, you shouldn't be 

Attorney General. 

If you lied to Sen. Pryor about your policies, then you shouldn't be AG. 

Explain. 


by fabooj on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:08:28 PM EDT 


And the "explanation" is??? (nt) 




Well... 

we all know what it is - but he just can't admit it. 

Delicious. 

(17+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 





I suck at liveblogging 

My TV is not in my office and unfortunately, my children are louder than the TV, so I 

didn't get that part. I did hear AG say that he was unhappy with the characterization, 

but nothing really denying Shumer's statments. 




Gonzo is getting really stupid now (3+ / 0-) 

Arguing facts with Schumer 

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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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The Schumer vs. Abu matchup is about as 

competitive as a canned hunt. Same principle, actually. 



How the hell 

can he RECALL Sampson's testimony 15 or 20 times???!! Especially when he can't recall 

a damn thing pertinent to being accountable for the DOJ? Crapola! LIAR> 





Didn't like the plan 

But didn't stop it. 

by bahaba on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:08:48 PM EDT 


Schumerriffic! 



by Red Bean on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:08:54 PM EDT 


abu... 

(2+ / 0-) 




AG's response: 

(8+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

I never liked the plan. Sampson must have been running things. 

(8+ / 0-) 

Sampson testifed 20 times that I rejected the plan, didn't like it, didn't consider it. 

Schumer: Even if you didn't like it, with Sampson going forward with a plan you don't 

like, who's running the dept? You shouldn't be AG. 



Schumer: who is running the dept? (12+ / 0-) 

What are you doing over there and why should you be Attorney General? 


(12+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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So, will Gonzo resign over lunch 

or will he be thrown under the bus before dinner? 




Gonzo's defense 

Sampson said I didn't like it. 



Sampson: Karl Rove's "Mini Me" ( nt ) 




ooh...Gonzo's starting to yell... 

uh-oh. Damn, just ran out of popcorn! 



by rioduran on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:01 PM EDT 


here 

(4+ / 0-) 

have some of my chips 


the state. 

by babatunde on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:49 PM EDT 


I'm out of water here 

...but I can't leave to go refill! 




Oh shit (19+ / 0-) 

I think AG is going to cry! 

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(7+ / 0-) 

Schumer is wiping the floor with him using Sampson's testimony and email. 




(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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That's what I thought, too!! 

I swear - I thought, he's gonna lose it and burst into tears! Not for nothing, I would, 

too, if I were he and just got such a thorough flogging. 

Shame on NBC. 



There's no way AG AG survives the Sampson 

comparisons; he's damned either way. 

17. Ne5 



by Spud1 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:11:05 PM EDT 


Wow. Just wow. 

This is historical. 

Eco: -4.88 / Soc: -5.38 

by Absit invidia on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:11 PM EDT 


Not enough for TV, though.... 





What a fucking idiot 

Schumer is nailing him, but good. 




"Did Kyle Sampson put out this memo (13+ / 0-) 

completely on his own...you can't have it both ways...if your cos if putting out a memo 

that contradicts you, you shouldn't be AG. 

Explain. 

(8+ / 0-) 

Abu: Mr Sampson also testifed 15-20 times that I rejected this plan, that I never liked 

it, thought it was a bad idea, never considered it.. 

CS: No, he said you never rejected it 

KS: Ok, then he went ahead, when you didn't like the plan..on 12/19...KS said you had 

no rejection. What are we to think as US Senators, when you don't like a plan, your 

COS puts out a memo...whose running the dept? 

Abu: I wasn't aware of this email. I never liked the plan. 

Schumer hands his ass to him. 

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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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what emails, motherfucker??? BWAHAHAHAHA n/t 


by MarketTrustee on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:17:21 PM EDT 


Shumer: You can't have it both ways. 

Gozales says he wasn't aware of this email. 

Shumer: your chief of staff puts out an email... 



Must have been on an official White House Channel 

Had Sampson sent it over GWB43.com, Gonzo surely would've gotten it... 


anonymity..." 



ROFLMAO n/t 





Schumer (21+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

this is a serious hearing, you've had months to prepare. 

AG: I said that she (lam) was aware of the concerns we had... if you look at the 

letters, email, there is no question. 

S: the record will say that she doesn't believe she was talked to about immigration 

concerns. is it the general process to let a congressman talk to her (instead of the 

department talking to her) 

AG: (we are in the process of changing procedures 

(4+ / 0-) 

S: you are saying she was told, sampson is saying she was not told. its a key question 

and its still an answer that contradicts. 

there is a question that you and the department intended to bypass (congress). were 

you honest with congress about your intent. Senator Pryor, one of the most temperate 

members, "the AG not only lied to me, but when he lied to me he lied to the senate 

and the people I represent". (he still stands by this). 

According to sampson, you became aware of this in early '06 and did not reject it. 

Sampson was going forward with this - Sampson's advice was to gum it to death, to 

run out the clock. Give Griffin a chance. The plan was to use the tactics to delay and 

let Griffin stay in to the end of the president's term. You talked with Pryor, sampson 

testifies that he was in the room, you said to Pryor that you wanted it to go through 

senate confirmation (said in early December). on 12/19, a memo was sent to 


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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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implement it, but on 12/15, you told Pryor (it would go through confirmation). You 

can't have it both ways. Contradicts what you told (pryor). 

Who is running the department? 

by Ellicatt on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:35 PM EDT 


best cross-exam EVAH n/t 




Schumer exposed him as 100% 

incompetent. "You went ahead with a plan you did not like." 




Gonzo's voice is cracking like he's going through 

puberty again. 




Abu is toast, it's done, it's over. 



This is just flat-out lying by AG AG 

(4+ / 0-) 




They Support the Lying Against Heathen Democrats 





Schumer is reaming him... (7+ / 0-) 

(13+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 

They have more than enough to impeach. Let's go ahead and make it happen. Please. 

(9+ / 0-) 

And it should be obvious to everybody but the KoolAid drinkers in the GOP and the 

MSM 

This will cost him 5% R support in the polls. Bush will go up 10% under these appalling 

attacks. 


(5+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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he's a liar and an incompetent fuckswine. 




Schumer absolutely on fire. nt 



by Miss Butter on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:10:31 PM EDT 


I love Chuck Schumer! n/t 

Torrey Pines Reflections 

by SanDiegoDem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:09:52 PM EDT 


"defies credulity" - shumer 




Not liking the plan at this time and then liking the plan at anothe time. 

Punt. Ridiculous. He's toast. 

Shame on NBC. 



I don't 

(5+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

recall. IMPEACH THE BASTARD NOW. 

by Chamonix on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:10:03 PM EDT 


Pitch up to little boy voice now 

(11+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 




unbelievable theater (13+ / 0-) 

(8+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

Schumer is slicing and dicing this mook. worst performance imaginable by this POS 





04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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He hasn't cried yet 

..and fled the room. 


by Scarce on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:13:38 PM EDT 


is Gonzo beginning to tear up? 




Abu: I DIDN'T LIKE THE PLAN 

really, I didn't like it. I rejected. Really, I rejected and I didn't like it and I wouldn't 

considered it. Really. 



But 

I can't recall 

(4+ / 0-) 



game set match (nt) 



by pissedpatriot on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:10:18 PM EDT 


It defies credulity n/t 



Being an American 

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(0 / 0) 

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(1+ / 0-) 

(4+ / 0-) 

Chuck Schumer is another reason for me to feel good about being an American again. 



Chicago: "They had it coming. (3+ / 0-) 

That only had themselves to blame. If you'da been there, if you'da seen it, I know that 

you would have done the same." 

Where's the music for Gonzales? Some shiney glitzy clothes and fancy dancers? 

by Southern Mouth on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:10:26 PM EDT 



04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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"He ran into my knife" 

"He ran into my knife ten times." 

--or-- 

"Who are you gonna believe...me or your lying eyes?" 

Blessed are the arrogant...for they shall be really impressed with themselves. 

by homogenius on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:24 PM EDT 


It defies credulity 

that one's chief of staff would do the exact obvious of what you said you wanted him to 

do. 

I love shumer. 



Schumer: In Dec, Sampson says 

you didn't reject the plan. 

Defies credulity that 4 days after you tell Pryor you're going one way, that your chief of 

staff sends out a memo for going exactly the other way. 



That sounds like insubordination 

Is that what Abu is implying? 

[/snark] 


anonymity..." 



Schumer directly contradicts 

Abu about KS's testimony 




Credulity-Very good Mr Shumer 




Schumer (0 / 0) 

(4+ / 0-) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Schumer: It defies credulity that you tell someone you're going one way and then you 

go another way 

(0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Schumer quotes mild-mannered Pryor 

& references Sampson being aware of plan 12/06 

Sampson advises WH to gum this to death to run out the clock - Arkansas plan to keep 

Griffin away from confirmation hearings. 

G told Pryor in December that you wanted to go through confirmation hearings. Then G 

was on the phone to Pryor saying confirmation hearings would be held. 

G said Sampson testified that G thought it was a bad plan. 

Schumer said Sampson testified G had no objection to the plan in December. 

"It defies credulity" says Schumer "that you said you never rejected the plan and you 

did." 


by 4Freedom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:11:00 PM EDT 


typical Repub - he's offended by Schumer 




Graham now n/t 

(0 / 0) 




Wow, talk about having Abu 

having all the color drained from his face after that ....Wow..look at how white he is, I 

think he may pass out 

by emal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:11:29 PM EDT 


Get that man a glass of water! 


anonymity..." 



back on C-Span 1 (4+ / 0-) 

in a tiny corner while they vote. 

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(0 / 0) 




04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Thanks!!! (n/t) 

Shame on NBC. 



BLAMING HOME STATE SENATORS 

BAD Mother-F'ing move Gonzo. 

Shame on NBC. 



Yes. He is so desperate to save himself. 

He is willing to throw anyone else under the bus. :) 



by StevenJoseph on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:13:03 PM EDT 


He's really a dimwit, isn't he? 

Shame on NBC. 

(3+ / 0-) 

Because the key to saving his position is to keep the legislators at least mollified. 

Blaming them isn't a way to keep them quiet. What a tool. 



Huckleberry Graham up next. 

Golly gosh gee! And shucks as well. 




I wish C-SPAN would do a live podcast 



Uniter, can I move you up one 

(2+ / 0-) 

meaning, put still pictures up with audio. Would be much smaller than video. 

liveblogging spot? Mardish had to drop out. 

(12+ / 0-) 

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(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

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Never mind. Sorry. Someone volunteered to fill.nt (0 / 0) 


04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Elections have consequences :) 

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and 

tyrants."- Thomas Jefferson 

by RandyMI on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:11:49 PM EDT 


My favorite line 

to throw back at the repugs faces after they used it for so long. 

HA! 

by edwardssl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:15:28 PM EDT 


Hoity toity- he takes issue with Schumer's 

characterization 

I bet he does (snark intended) 



Posturing offended dignity. nt 



by Miss Butter on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:13:07 PM EDT 


inconsistencies 

When questioned about losing the trust of the American people, Gonzalez basically said 

"I can't please everyone, and I still think I'm doing a good job." 

When questioned about Carol Lam, he says basically "She knew some congresspeople 

were concerned" as evidence that Lam was acutely aware she was on thin ice? 

What hypocritical BS. If he's allowed to piss people off for doing such a wonderful job 

< /snark>, then why is Lam supposed to know she has to shape up after hearing 

concerns from a couple members of congress? 

Matt 

by Matt Smith on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:11:59 PM EDT 


AG: "I didn't like it (The Plan)" (6+ / 0-) 

... but he approved of the damn thing. He is the Boss. Who the hell is running DoJ? 

Some pimply-faced youngster who drank the Kool-Aid? 

Wait. Wait. I know... 

Rove! And Cheney! 

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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Gonzo: "I don't know if I'd call it a plan... 

...It was an idea that was raised." 

I'm not a lawyer, but what exactly is the difference between a "plan" and a "idea that 

was raised"? 




Schumer 

by L Boom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:12:12 PM EDT 


The phrase, "Slimy SOB" keeps popping to mind. 

Uh oh... I just had a thoughtcrime. 

by Starve2Act on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:12:30 PM EDT 


re: Gonzo 

(5+ / 0-) 

Man, is Schumer fun to watch. He's hammering Gonzales on the "Are you lying or are 

you incompetent?" angle with the idea that Sampson went ahead with the USA firings 

after Gonzales claims he opposed it. 

He might as well just stand up and shout "Senator, I reject your reality!" 

(4+ / 0-) 

How the hell can this guy be an attorney? I would like to know what cases he won. 




Real estate attorney n/t 


by dotsright on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:17:24 PM EDT 


I think most of them 

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" George Orwell 

by wrights on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:09 PM EDT 


Graham up (0 / 0) 

(3+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

Involved poor people, the mentally retarded, and the death penalty... 

it'll be interesting how he approaches this 

(3+ / 0-) 



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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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heh 

by Politburo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:13:56 PM EDT 


and digging.. and digging.. (n/t) 



Someone pass Schumer the tissue box 




NPR Neil Conant 





whew... 

(0 / 0) 

Graham gave him a chance.. but Gonzo keeps digging... 

needs to wipe himself off 

Also hand Abu one -- I hate to see someone getting reamed cry.... 

said that Lindsay Graham was glaring at Gonzales. 

(0 / 0) 

let's watch Graham practice fellatio. abu's going to get lots of republican head 

today...care for a top=off Mr. abu? 




Maybe not 

Graham needs to be careful, he's potentially vulnerable, for uh... personal reasons. 




overly graphic though. u might want to stop. (0 / 0) 

I did laugh, but not everyone can read that without being offended. You might want to 

tone it down a bit. 


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(0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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"...in good faith": not a phrase 

he should be using 




Abu's testimony is worse than Sampson's. 

He's going through meltdown. 


leader (1840-1904) 



Well he's significantly dumber than Sampson... 

...who's also no genius. 




LOL. Definitely a candidate for top comment. 





Sampson seems to be running... 

(0 / 0) 

Jeez...no wonder so many Regent U zombies work in the Justice Department. If you 

didn't think you were working for God, you'd have to deal with the fact you were 

working for this loser! 

(10+ / 0-) 

(5+ / 0-) 

the department. Gonzo strongly opposed Sampson's plan for firing but Sampson went 

ahead with it anyway. 

Gonzales doesn't agree with Shumer's characterization that he's not really in charge if 

his subordinates go ahead with plans he doesn't like or approve of... what's not to 

disagree with? 



And Rove's running Sampson, I'll wager. (5+ / 0-) 


leader (1840-1904) 




(9+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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nt 

Sampson's Rove's "Mini Me". ( nt ) 




Why Not? All Top Appointed Repubs Are Figureheads 





Did Lindsy bring his rugs? Rat 




Here comes Graham 




doesn't matter 

(1+ / 0-) 

He's a bit dangerous because he doesn't have memory problems. Damn, CSpan3 is 

cutting in and out. I hate that they can't carry something that is this important on one 

of the channels viewable by most of their television audience. What's up with that? I 

don't see anything else so important on the agenda today. 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 



They will re-run it after session on C-Span or C2 

by greenchiledem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:17:23 PM EDT 


I got XM for Xmas and now I no why. 




thanks, I didn't know that (0 / 0) 

(3+ / 0-) 

If the House or Senate is in session, they must be aired on C-SPAN or C-SPAN 2, 

respectively. 





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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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they are required by contract 

to carry floor proceedings on C-Span 1 and 2. Side hearings can only be shown when 

the House and Senate are not in open session. 





glaring? 

What was up with the NPR comment about someone glaring at Gonzales? I didn't catch 

all of that. Anyone watching this? What happened? 

Looks like Graham is going after him, rather than his usual shill role. 

by Nathan in MN on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:13:29 PM EDT 


Shorter Fredo 

"I didn't necessarily tell anyone it was a bad idea. But I did. Trust me." 




"Thanks Oops I Crapped My Pants!" 

Did I hear that right? The CSPAN3 feed cut out there for a sec... 



Schumer should've called Gonzo a worm 

I think he needs a soundbite to echo on the idiot MSM. Otherwise these assholes may 

claim "victory". 

Politics will never ever change if all we ever do is target double prime voters. 

by JerzyD on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:13:52 PM EDT 


Senator "I torture, but I'm folksy" is up 

I can't abide this slimy, odious creature. Makes me sick. 




You ordered the code red moment there? (6+ / 0-) 

with schummer 

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by Salvor Hardin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:14:15 PM EDT 



04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

Page 53 of 70


text of "gum to death" memo 

is here 




Griffin: "a well-qualified individual" 

Are you f***ing kidding me? 

Patrick Fitzgerald is a well-qualified individual. 

Kevin Griffin is a Rove-cloned POS. 

by ReEnergizer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:14:22 PM EDT 


Well qualified 




getting angry with Graham is a biggggggggggg 

mistake! 

(2+ / 0-) 

probably merely means he has a bigger than average cock. 



I despise Graham, and his talk about the 5th 

column - he hates individual and civil rights. Blech. 





Gonzo backtracking on not liking it 

going from "Sampson said I didn't like" to "I believe Sampson said I didn't like" to 

almost saying "I don't know what he said for sure" 




to find out why cummins was fired in... (1+ / 0-) 

...arkansas, take a look at this diary 


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04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Freudian Slip: "I avoided... I mean..." 




back to this "judge" story 

he said the exact same thing before. 

I advise you straighten things out with Pryor. 




shorter Graham: Straighten it out with Pryor n/t 




here. 

Part 8 is up 




thnx 

(3+ / 0-) 

please unrecommend 7 (and earlier) 




Enter Dobbs the Bugler 

Probing questions: Sound retreat! 





Now he can't even remember (1+ / 0-) 

what he didn't recall 5 minutes ago. 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(5+ / 0-) 

(2+ / 0-) 

This senator is trying to lead AG through the minefield, and Gonzo's just jumping on 

the mines. 

by mlecin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:16:19 PM EDT 



(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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He just doesn't like 

having judges appoint his staff. Or senators. Or anyone. 

But then again, since he doesn't review who is on his staff, and lets other people decide 

who to fire, why should he care? eh? 



Yep, Don't Tell Him to Appoint, But Then Again.. 

he apparently let Sampson do all the appointing & he can't recall much about the whole 

thing?? 



Come on! 

Who's clogging the tubes? CSPAN-3 is breaking up. 

Eco: -4.88 / Soc: -5.38 

by Absit invidia on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:16:24 PM EDT 


KARL ROVE 

...has every rnc gwb43.com server hitting cspan3 HARD at the moment.. 

she's breaking up!!! 



Try going to audio feed only 

... 

Idiot Senator /"most of this is a stretch, most of the people just had personality 

conflicts... and that's the reason 

Gon /I disagree with that 

Idiot Senator /I don't believe you're in a conspiracy .... these are just not the right 

people at the right time 

Gonz/ I believe I continue to be an effective At Gen of the US. Ive acknowleged my 

mistakes... I need to have dialogue with the congress, I have notheing to hide, I 

haven't tried to deny document access 

Idiot Senator/ 

You're aware you have a credibility problem with the congress? 

next senator 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(5+ / 0-) 

John Doolittledump Doo Vote Brown 

by AmericanRiverCanyon on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:21:30 PM EDT 


AG can't speak to anything. (7+ / 0-) 

Can't speak to where ideas came from. 

(0 / 0) 


(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:04 PM 

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Can't speak to what was said in meetings. 

Can't speak to how process was done. 

Can't speak to who decided what. 

Stop this already and make him head of FEMA. 



decision based more on trust than on knowledge 





Bottom Line, Trust Him, He Knows what he's doing 

better than anyone else, even tho his staff makes the decisions, which he doesn't know 

about & he doesn't recall much about anything... 



Your decision was 

based on your senior team rather than knowledge? 

Yes, that's so. 



now 

gonzo is lying and must go 



He just told a huge one, too n/t 




Passed the buck. 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

by cre8fire on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:17:13 PM EDT 


Graham.... BARF n/t (1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Trusted Sampson... what a lying sack of shit. 

(0 / 0) 





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04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

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Gonzalez is toast. 

Lying asshole. 

Time's fun when you're having flies. - Kermit the Frog 

by Five of Diamonds on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:17:21 PM EDT 


Graham bothered that Iglesias 

not able to tell his side of the story. 

Gonzo agrees...in hindsight. 




Graham, I bothers me 

that Mr. Iglesias never had a chance to tell his side of the story. 




Grahamn cracker is finishing him off n/t 



That story just changed! 

It used to be that Lam was aware to 'Lam may have been aware'. 

Anyone else catch that? 




recall 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

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(5+ / 0-) 

gonzo should be recalled, deficient product 

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by rkelley25 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:18:29 PM EDT 


awwwwwwwwwwww making up reasons (4+ / 0-) 

made up reasons to fire people! your done, where the fork.... 




04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 58 of 70


Lindsay says it's a stretch 

these people had personality conflicts 

Gonzales disagrees 



Graham: Most of this is a streach 

these people just had personality problems with people in your office or in the white 

house so you fired them and made up stories about the reason. 




"most of this is a stretch" 

Sen. Graham is floating the defense that they were fired for personality conflicts not 

improper reasons. 

Abu G rejects that. 





Graham,... 

Gonzo, how many ways may I kiss your lieing ass? Please? 

The sleep of reason produces monsters. 

by Alumbrados on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:17 PM EDT 


If I applied the 

standard of "these are not the right people at the right time" to you, what would you 

say -- Lindsay 



What an extraordinary asshole our AG is! 

That is all. 




ouch (0 / 0) 

(0+ / 0-) 

(1+ / 0-) 

KNOCKED HIM DOWN 

Then kicked himin the head 

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(0 / 0) 



04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

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the state. 

by babatunde on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:39 PM EDT 


WOW 

If those same standards were applied to you, what would you say? 

ARE YOU THE RIGHT PERSON AT THE RIGHT TIME....... or the WRONG ONE? 



Wow...Graham just pinned Gonzo down...after 

giving him the benefit of the doubt on the firings..which sucked..now he asks if "he is 

the best person at the right time for the office".... 

We Changed The Course! 

by hcc in VA on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:57 PM EDT 


"made up reasons to fire them" 

wow nice. 

(1+ / 0-) 





ALERT--CSPAN HAS PICTURE IN PICTURE 

C-Span just went to picture in picture while the house is holding a vote! 





What's the vote? n/t 


(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 



doesn't matter--the House is voting on something (1+ / 0-) 

so while the floor proceedings are suspended in the house, C-Span 1 is free to air the 

Gonzales hearings. 

C-Span is required to carry House proceedings when they are in session, but sometimes 

there are long pauses during votes. During those pauses they often play classical 

music, but this time they cut to a picture in picture of the Gonzales hearings. 

Damn--House is back in session now. Gonzales hearings are off again. Back to the 

audio feed of C-Span 3. 




(2+ / 0-) 

04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 60 of 70




Did Graham just open the door for Abu to resign 

for incompetence? 




Durbin's up now. 

We'll have to see how he is. 

"We are stardust. Billion year old carbon. We are golden. Caught in the devil's bargain." 

by Everest42 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:23 PM EDT 


Sen. Mister Rogers 

withholds his support. 



by Red Bean on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:25 PM EDT 


I am surprised at Lindsey Graham 

He's actually hitting Gonzales for making up shit to fire these U.S. Attorneys. 

Wow. 



by wolverinethad on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:29 PM EDT 


I always take good sounding words fromLG 

Make levees not war. 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

by pullbackthecurtain on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:01 PM EDT 


Sure...Abu gets to tell... (0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

with a grain of salt because he's so damn sneaky that he paints wrongoing into a rosey 

picture. He made torture sound like it was legal because people weren't american 

citizens. LG should have his mouth sewn shut and placed in the back corner during all 

Judiciary Committee proceedings. 

...his side of the story...over and over and over, contradictions and all. FIRE HIS ASS! 


by nehark on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:30 PM EDT 



(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 61 of 70


You know have a credibility problem 

with Congress, right? 

Love it! 




do or do not there is no try 

reply to graham 

can he just show that he's credible, can he just communicate with congress, rather than 

trying? 

"I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling 

the truth about them." - Adlai Stevenson 

by Steagle of Death Metal on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:33 PM EDT 


Graham 

Wow, Graham's only giving him a nice hot stone massage instead of the full treatment. 

Graham: "Would it be fair to say that you made you decisions based more on trust of 

your staff rather than on any knowledge?" 

Gonzales: "Yes, I think that's fair to say." 

Graham tossed Gonzo a softball ("Is it fair to say they were fired just because of 

personality conflicts, rather than any kind of conspiracy?") and he totally whiffed. 

And again, Graham trying to sound "tough but fair" and pleading the wrong downs, but 

Gonzo won't admit any wrongdoing at all. 

by L Boom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:43 PM EDT 


Graham: Thinks most of this is a stretch. 

Thinks some of these people ran afoul of personalities in the dept. and came up with 

reasons to fire them. 

AG: Takes issue with that. 

Graham: Doesn't think fired for political reasons. But struck me when you said not the 

right people at the right time. IF I APPLIED THAT STANDARD TO YOU, WHAT WOULD 

YOU SAY? (emph. added) 

AG: (Takes a beat). made mistakes, etc. 

LG: You're aware that you have a tremendous credibility problem. Trying to fix that, 

right? 

AG. Right. 

I THINK THAT AG JUST LOST LG. 



"you have a credibility problem with Congress" (0 / 0) 

Graham. 

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04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 62 of 70


Abu G: I intend to fix that. 





Translation... 

"I've been lying to Congress. 

I'm not going to lie to Congress any more. 

Trust me. 

(0 / 0) 

Well, I may have to lie for just a little while longer in order to get my tit out of this 

wringer...." 

Unusual travel suggestions are dancing lessons from God. - Kurt Vonnegut 

by BobTrips on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:29:18 PM EDT 


Graham leading the witless 

encouraging him to say it was about trust, drawing the broad brush over the entire 

process. 

"what kind of damage do you think needs to be considered?" trying to make us 

sympathetic for Abu, who's only human, after all, and there a "tremendous credibility 

problem, and today's a start [to fix it]" 




Remember: hrdcore Conservatives want to get 

Gonzo too. He's not Conservative enuf for them. 



And they DON'T want him on SCOTUS so.. 

they'll try to damage him just enuf with this to prevent that. 



can't do drinking game 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

it's 6:30 in the morning in Hawaii, but all I wanna do is play the "I don't recall" drinking 

game 





Gonzo does not recall if he is alive n/t (3+ / 0-) 


(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 63 of 70








"The feeling of respect for all species will help us recognize the noblest nature in 

ourselves." - Thich Nhat Hanh 

by friendlyfire on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:21:34 PM EDT 


Here. 

Live Blog 8 Is Up 

Unrec this and go! 




"I don't recall" 








Rove 

(2+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

Yahooo he's bringing up Rove. Durbin!!!!! 

Rove was there infrequently 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

I don't recall that conversation 

Bringing up fitzgerald. Did rove talk about fitzgerald. I don't recall. Durbin -- I could 

read portions of it to you. 



Rove and Recall both start with R's 




So does "ratface" n/t (1+ / 0-) 


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04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 64 of 70




Excellent 




Durbin asks 

if Abu was present at any meetings with Rove...Abu says that's privileged info, and 

none of our fucking beeswax. 




Graham 

wants to know where the idea of senate confirmation being changed comes from 

AG: I can't say...the prior law had the requirement of 120 days.. 

G: we all respect senator pryor and he said some pretty harsh things, which are out of 

character. 

My problem is that you apologized to the 8USAs and gave a good explanation to 

brownback for each person, but it took a long time to be able to nail that down. gave 

news conferences with no ownership of the process. When you made your final 

decision, was it based on trust? 

AG that is a fair (explanation). 

G the decision to replace based on poor performance, it does bother me that people 

like Iglesias were never able to tell their story. No one seemed to contact (him) and ask 

what is your part of the story 

AG I agree with that 

G Lam said she had no (background). Was this really performance based (or 

personality conflicts) 

AG if you look at the documentation, there is documentation that supports. 

G looks like some have personality conflicts; some look good, and some don't 

AG I respectfully disagree 

G You never sanctioned (any for political reasons); don't believe you are that kind of 

person; you said that sometimes it just came down to these are not the right people at 

the right time. If applied to you, what would you say? 

AG I believe that I can continue to be effective as AG; we've done great things; 

damage to be repaired - I need to continue to have dialog with congress and be as 

forthcoming as I can be; I've tried to inform congress that I don't have anything to 

hide; didn't say no to the document request, for my internal staff. 

G you are aware that you have a credibility problem with some members of congress, 

and you are trying to fix that, right? 

AG (yes) 

(0 / 0) 

(2+ / 0-) 

(7+ / 0-) 



A typed transcript misses (3+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 65 of 70


the fear and hesitation in Gonzo's voice. 

by Bill White on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:25:17 PM EDT 


Plamegate returns - 




Does anyone have a tally on "I do not recall"? 



I've got 30 but 




Me too, but... 



He's obviously working very hard to avoid it 




I don't recall who has that n/t 


(2+ / 0-) 

Durbin: When you were hired in Feb 05, you knew who Fitz was? 

Warning: obfuscation in progress.... 

Lat I heard it was over 40. What number are we at right now? BTW, this beats the 

Hearings into the Iran/Contra hearings in the 80s (I do not recall). 

(0 / 0) 

I had a couple of quick bathroom breaks. 

(1+ / 0-) 

...I have counted 6 in the last 3 minutes. Unbelievable! Holy Fitzgerald! 

his handlers have tried to teach him other ways to answer but he reverts to type often. 

Sometimes it's almost a stutter and he says it twice, "I don't recall, eh, I don't recall..." 

(0 / 0) 



Lost track after the 10th sip (burp, dinking game (0 / 0) 




(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

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No, but.... 

Really, WWFSMD? 

by sp0t on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:26:51 PM EDT 


Gonzales, just one branch of corruption 

by Southern Mouth on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:23:55 PM EDT 


This q will get him 

(1+ / 0-) 

we're playing a drinking game on it, and we're already hammered (my dog is typing this 

post as I slur it out)!!!! 

The corruption starts at the root and spreads upward and outward and what you get is 

failure and more corruption and death. Death as in living beings and death of trust, 

death of decency, death of competency, death of truthfulness .... 

If you don't bury that which is dead, it further corrupts and destroys ... and it gives off 

a distinctive odor that travels the airwaves thru the television right into one's nose. 




No one takes notes or minutes at meetings? n/t 




that is what's unbelievable 

does he keep no records of what he does? no minutes, no summaries of decisions, 

assignments, actions, to do lists... 

This stuff happened 4-8 months ago? does he have alzheimers? 

visit my blog:Over the line, Smokey!. 

by seesdifferent on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:37:35 PM EDT 


Give this man an award! (0 / 0) 

DUMBEST ATTORNEY GENERAL IN AMERICAN HISTORY! 

I don't recall.. 

I don't know... 

I don't think it happened... 

I can't say... 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 


anonymity..." 




(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 67 of 70


WT heh? 

Abu says, Iglesias was his decision to fire him, yet hasn't Abu been saying all along 

that he didn't make these decisions? 



What is claiming the Iglesias violated? n/t 



AG: Iglesias intentionally violated a policy 

that was meant to protect him. (By not reporting phone calls from Congress). 

so stands by his decision to fire him. 



Thank you 

What a trivial thing to be canned over. 



Here's the problem 

Gonzales: I will do that to the best of my ability." 

This man was--is--totally unqualified to be much more than the guy who sweeps the 

Senate floor. 

To God: Please stop talking to George Bush. Too much is being lost in translation. 

by miriam on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:29:05 PM EDT 


He would not sweep the left side of the floor, 

only his own shit. 




Oh, Now listen to this bleep about Iglesias!!!! (3+ / 0-) 

Sen. are you aware that Kyle Sampson testified that he told harrit miers to recomend 

removing Patrick Fitzgerald 

Gonz / I don't remember that conversation 

Sen. ... and now you can't remember? 

Gonz. I don't think that conversation happenned 

Sen Did you ever have a conv. about the valerie plame incident with (white house) 

about the removal of Patrick Fitzgerald? 

Gonz. no 

(0 / 0) 

(1+ / 0-) 

(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 


(0 / 0) 

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04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

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...... 

Sen. How about the fate of mr iglesias? 

Gonz/it was my decision 

Sen/ now that you've reflected, do you think it was the right decision 

Gonz/fair question... if a member of congress contacts the doj that is a very 

serious issue, if we had known it probably would have made a difference. we 

also know mr iglesias did not report the contact that is a violation so mr 

iglesias is not fit to serve as a US attorney 




Go on up to blog 8, lunch break now 

....they will resume at 2 pm eastern that's 11 am pacific 




What a set of balls on Gonzo 

He wants to complain that the complaints by the Senators are attacking the "career 

professionals" at DOJ. 

Oh, you mean the ones that all quit because you politicized it, or all the ones you hired 

from Regent University? 



by wolverinethad on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:12 PM EDT 


recess 

(0 / 0) 

for an hour. Will have second round. 

Sounds like a bunch of Repubs up next - but then he named Biden at the end. 

by OLinda on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:20 PM EDT 


ROFL...Shumer just whispered "Too many people to 

kick out"...you can hear him...re: the demonstrators.... 




Somebody said "are those ours?" did she mean (0 / 0) 

"are those our demonstrators?" 


(0 / 0) 

(0 / 0) 




(0 / 0) 

04/19/2007 02:05 PM 

Page 69 of 70


Someone mentioned a count of 55 "I don't recall" 

and the Senator answering said "that's an improvement." 




"I don't recall" (1+ / 0-) 

To God: Please stop talking to George Bush. Too much is being lost in translation. 

by miriam on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:37:23 PM EDT 




(0 / 0) 

How does someone with NO memory retention become the highest legal authority in 

the US government? 







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on the next thread. 





GONE - zales! 

It's time to wrap this up and make it so. 

Gone-zales - has a nice ring to it! 

It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to 

set brush fires in people's minds - Samuel Adams 

by Red no more on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:14:43 PM EDT 


Gonzo is GONEzo 

How much pig shit can a man wallow through and still smell like a rose. This sucmbag 

GONEzo is 10 feet under a pig shit cesspool! 


by deepsouthdoug on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:45 PM EDT 


I swear i didn't like it 

but "those guys" just don't listen to me ... sniff 




Shumer just accused gonzo of perjury 

TWICE!! 

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Not in those words (damn Senate decorum) but he did. 


by kamarvt on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:05 PM EDT 


PS live feed from CBS 

on verizon Yahoo home page 

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Schumer impressive. (2+ / 0-) 

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Questions were clear, focused, and pinned Abu on one of the most important points - 

why Abu's recollection of discussions about Lam firings contradict others. 


04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

Consumer Product Safety 

Commission. 

But Baroody has spent 

the last 13 years lobbying to 

ELIMINATE product safety 

laws so that big corporations 

can evade accountability for 

negligence. 

Tell the U.S. Senate to keep 

Bush's fox out of the 

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His conversation with media during the gaggle during the press recess also very 

pointed, informative. 

He just rang the bell in my book. An historical moment. 

by leveymg on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:45:19 PM EDT 


Why didn't it sink in? -- Lindsay Graham 

"if you told Mr. Sampson 15 or 20 times that this was a bad idea, why didn't it sink in?" 

Oh... so Gonzo thinks USAs should be confirmed by the Senate? 

"where did the idea of Senate confirmation being changed?" 

Gonzo: "supported change in the law, not to avoid Senate confirmation, but because a 

judge shouldn't tell the Attorney General who should be on his staff." 

Graham: "sit down with Senator Pryor and work this out." 


Heschel 



Graham not paying attention 

He was way off on what they're even talking about - too busy working in happy talk. 




re 

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Insert Sam Seder Show sound effect here. 

"Steve Holt is currently going Gonzo." - Steve Holt 

by cookiesandmilk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:37 PM EDT 


"i've made a huge mistake" 

( -7.63, -5.69 ) Live in NoVA? Join us at Drinking Liberally Arlington! 

by grrtigger on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:23:09 PM EDT 


re 

Alberto Gonzales 

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Post O' the Day!!! 

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In this administration, there are many Bluths (0 / 0) 

as well as many mistakes, for that matter. The thing is, they're not afraid to make 


04/19/2007 02:07 PM 










right now." 


Amazon 


Powell's 

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APRIL 25th! 

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them. 

by Timbuk the Second on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:06 PM EDT 


Gonzo supported a change in the law 

because he didn't like the idea of a judge telling the AG what to do. 


by 4Freedom on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:15:38 PM EDT 


Yeah. Gonzo is so competent he doesn't need help 


Heschel 



Schumer (79+ / 0-) 

schumer 

S: you told sen feinstein that carol lam was acutely aware... mr sampsons testimony he 

said i'm not suggesting we talked to lam about concerns in fact i think we did not give 

her notice. a few min you told sen feinstein that she was acutely aware 

G: about what 

S: about both 

G: i'll tell you what i recall and what i learned by looking at the docs. after looking at 

docs i believe there was communic with ms lam... she was aware there was concern 

and interest 

S: carol lam was not aware of doj views on her perform wrt immigration...the people 

we've interviewed have contradict statements from what you say 

G: i recall that sitting in a meeting concerned about ms lam and saying that those 

numbers needed to be changed. i expected that info to be communic... i never spoke 

to her directly, i beleived looking at docs she knew we had concerns 

S: sampson said no one told her 

G: no one told her what? 

feinstein: carol lam said she was never spoken to by the dept about their concerns 

S: 

G: i did not say that carol lam was aware that if her numbers didn't change she'd be 

asked to resign, i said she was aware of concerns 

S: she doesnt believe she was talked to, sampson doesn't beleive it 

G: why would members of congress send her letters, why would they want to have 

meetings with her 

S: is it policy to let a congressperson let her know, or is it the resp of the dept 

G: i think we should have done a better job 

S: issue goes beyond that it goes to who is telling the truth... it's getting to the truth in 

a hearing where you've had a month to prepare and your answer still contradicts what 

others said 

S: wrt whether you intended to bypass senate confirmation process.. this is a serious 

matter. sen pryor on floor of senate = what he had to say about you 

G: i would like to see it 

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down! 


Baghdad 

... Elections 

Precarious 


APRIL 24, 2007 





WATCH NOW! 


CDs! 

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by Sam Seder 




April 22nd! 

Read more... 


Classifieds 


today) 





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S: we'll get it to you 

S: pryor said the ag not only lied to me as aperson but he lied to the senate and the 

people i represent... sampson said they wanted to do this plan with getting around the 

senate. told congress the WH never objected to this plan. said you became aware of 

the plan and you did not reject it. sampsons advice to WH is "we" should gum this to 

death, run out the clock. DOJ should ask AR senators to meet griffin and give him a 

chance. plan to keep griffin in until end of pres term. you pers talked to sen pryor, 

sampson was in room. you talked to pryor two times and said to pryor you wanted to 

go thru senate confirmation. what would you think if you were in pryor's shoes. there 

was a plan to circumvent but you're on the phone with pryor saying you'll get 

confirmation. did sampson send out this memo on his own? if your chief of staff is 

implementing a plan that contradicts what you just told a senator you shouldn't be the 

AG. 

G: i never liked this plan, didn't consider it 

S: he said you did know about it but didn't reject it 

G: he said I rejected it 

S: okay then he went ahead on dec 19... that was later that you said you didn't like it 

S: what are we to think if your chief of staff is going ahead with it if you didn't like the 

plan 

S: you never liked the plan but sampson put out a detailed step by step plan 

G: sampson has testified that this was a bad idea 

S: sampson said it was a bad idea in retrospect - in dec he was going full steam ahead 

G: he has also testif that i never liked the plan 

S: no he testif that you didn't reject it 

S: it defies credulity that someone goes the opposite way when you said you rejected 

the plan 



by joanneleon on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:15:45 PM EDT 


YOU are amazing n/t 





Super transcription joanneleon! Thanks from 

those of us at work!!!!!! 

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by feelingsickinMN on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:36:33 PM EDT 


Can you change your title (14+ / 0-) 






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To Live Blogging 8: Gonzales Hearing. Just for some consistency. I think it will help the 

people who'll be reading from the beginning. Thanks Night Owl. 

04/19/2007 02:07 PM 





Read more... 



Candidates 


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Fixed n/t 





decision was based on info from political hacks 

rather than knowledge. 




A recommend for the WWJD joke 

Although my favorite one is WWJDFAKB? [... for a Klondike bar?] 

by Samer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:11:13 PM EDT 


* [new] LOL - thanks 




Could Abu slouch any lower in his chair? 

How can the shrubbistas expect anyone to take this buffoon seriously. 



Thanks, Night Owl. 





None of the Repugs 

can get him to say he was not in favor of going around Congress. He hasn't reall said 

he was in favor of it, but "Let's try him out for awhile" is one of his weasels. 



I would give 2 weeks pay to see bush or cheney (13+ / 0-) 

in that chair....... 

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Two YEARS Pay!! 


Heschel 



My Left Little Finger!! nt 





I would give 2 years pay to see Bush and Cheney 

now as Abu melts down! 



Throw in a casino and some native american 

leases, and I'll arrange it. 

--Jack Abramoff 

by zashvil on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:54 PM EDT 


LOL - good one n/t 

How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four; calling a tail a leg 

doesn't make it a leg. (Abraham Lincoln) 

by Ninepatch on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:58:18 PM EDT 


Gonzo: I'm not evil, only incompetent 




"I'm a good person" (5+ / 0-) 

hmmm - sounds familiar? 

I continue to be effective as AG 

hmmm 

"I'll continue to have dialogue with the Congress" 

"I have nothing to hide." 

"everything I've done has been consistent with the pricipal of pursuing truth & 

responsibility" 

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peace 




Arendt 

observes that real evil IS banal. 

This crowd IS evil. "Incompetent" is their smokescreen, it's the only word that people 

who actually give a shit about the Constitution and the law can apply to their actions 

that doesn't inherently assume that there was malicious intent aforethought. And since 

that idea is so abhorrent... 

Incompetent is an appealing idea. They didn't mean it, they're just incompetent. Oh, 

but they still have the support of the preznit (heckovajob!) and should continue to 

serve... because it's not incompetence. These bastards are not incompetent. 

They knew what they were doing. They did it intentionally, and they meant to do it. 

Evil. 

Truly enemies of the state, enemies of the American people. 

They should be impeached and removed and barred from all office JUST for starters. 

"I desire what is good. Therefore, everyone who does not agree with me is a traitor." 

King George III 

by ogre on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:43:47 PM EDT 


Lindsay Graham is throwing AG 

under the bus. 

Amazing. 





ouch!! 

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"Most of this is a stretch" 



He's trying to find an alternative 

to the political firing narrative which we know is the truth. Personality conflicts is BS. 





graham didn't get the memo? (3+ / 0-) 


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Graham: Most of this is a stretch 

Many firings may be based on personality clashes and reasons for firing were "made up" 




could you clarify that one 

are you saying that a United States Senator said that the United States Attorney 

General "MADE UP REASONS FOR FIRING United States Attorneys" ??? 

is that what you're saying ??? 

cuz "MAKING UP REASONS TO FIRE PEOPLE" semms awful IMPROPER to ME 

by Zapp Branigan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:44:56 PM EDT 


Graham hits the nail on the head 

We "Made up Reasons" to fire them 

by drational on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:18:45 PM EDT 


When did Graham 

grow a conscience? 





Certainly didn't evolve 

they don't believe in it! 



Wasn't intelligently designed either. n/t 

by manwithnoname on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:27:09 PM EDT 


Maybe he's trying some (1+ / 0-) 


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No, he doesn't want his buddy McCain to 

go down with this Attorney General, since he is going to be McCain's VP candidate (my 

prediction if, God forbid, McCain was the candidate.) 





no conscience 

This is part of Graham's whole shtick. He learned it at the feet of the masters -- McCain 

and Specter. Graham pretends to be concerned, to want to hold the Gonzales 

accountable, so that he then has the credibility to eventually excuse Gonzo. He and 

Specter will end up opposing the latest calls for Gonzales' resignation, probably as soon 

as the hearing ends. 

Ahhhh, I love the smell of oversight in the morning. - CHS 

by ryeland on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:56:27 PM EDT 


graham is riding the fence here.. 

wtf is he saying? 



Campaigning for re-election... n/t 





Graham: "We made up reasons to fire them!" 

wow. though then he backs up and denies there is politics. 




Gramam 

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Time waits for no one, the treasure is great spend it wisely. 

by mojavefog on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:38:32 PM EDT 


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Is as slimey as they come...postures but not after the truth....just damage control. 

doesn't sound happy. Sounds like personality problems with the fired AGs rather than 

performance. Still, semi-support for Gonzales. 

Gonzo believes he continues to be effective. Is he f'ing kidding? 


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Well he says he can do the job 

just not very well 




It's called delusion de grandeur! 


by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:30 PM EDT 


Durbin's up after Graham 

I'm looking forward to White House 

```` 

peace 




How many times 

by OntheCusp on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:24 PM EDT 


"I Believe I Can Continue to Be Effective" 

Physicist Wolfgang Pauli upon reading a paper: 

This isn't right, this isn't even wrong. 

by ChapiNation386 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:54 PM EDT 


Nah. (4+ / 0-) 

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Is he going to say "I believe I can continue to be effective; we've done great things." 

Jeebus. Throw him an anvil. This is painful. 

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If the Constitution is Don Corleone, Gonzo is the poor schmuck wearing cement boots. 

Throw him a grenade. Sinking is too mild, and he might let go. 





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Did he really say "we've done great things"? 

No shit Sherlock, that's the minimum of what is expected of The DoJ. And great 

doesn't necessarily mean good. 



My Goddess 

I never thought 

I'd miss Ashcroft. 

by Casper46 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:32 PM EDT 


I never thought I'd prefer 

Richard Nixon 

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I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 

by guyermo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:21:45 PM EDT 


Gonzo's new statement on Carol Lam 

She was aware of interest, if not concern on her immigration numbers. 

After spending god knows how many minutes saying she was acutely aware of deep 

concern regarding those numbers. 

Christ, Alberto Gonzales is even more hapless and clueless than Brownie. 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



Gonzales is so dumb.... 

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definitely not the brightest bulb in the pack n/t 

by davidkc on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:49:41 PM EDT 


Umm, is it just me? (20+ / 0-) 

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Lock 'em away Lindsay keeps sending lifeboats and he keeps shooting holes in the 

bottom of the lifeboats... 

Or is it getting difficult to tell the Republican sycophants right now? 

Were they given word to throw Gonzo under the bus? 

by Gryn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:19:37 PM EDT 



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re 

I know. Specter... get a spine in the mail yesterday? 

(I am sure its just one of those 24 hour spines though.) 




n/t 

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They certainly WEREN'T given word to save him. 




Maybe the idea is to give Gonzales to Dems 

in the hope of dampening public enthusiasm for the Email Scandal, etc. In other words, 

use Gonzales' perjury to give the Democrats a victory, the WH then says they have 

been fully cooperative, and now the Dems need to stop going on witch hunts seeing as 

we already have a scalp. 

I'd be careful with accepting this Trojan Horse, lame and incompentent though he may 

be, without prepping the public and building support for more hearings. This should 

become part of the bigger narrative of malfeasance, and in that way be positioned as a 

prelude rather than the main act. 

by StephNW4Clark on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:24:31 PM EDT 


Hmmm...does it look like this critter? 


When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter! 

by antirove on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:42:05 PM EDT 


I think the offer price of the Pubs (16+ / 0-) 

was turning on the staffers - Sampson and Goodling, but that depended on Gonzales 

hitting a few soft pitches out of the park...and holding the line that he was convincingly 

incompetent. 

The problem with depending on a weasel is he can and will turn on weaker creatures 

when in distress, and this compulsion to aggrandize his manliness and his intellect at 

the expense of the "kids" was neither intelligent nor adult behavior, and certainly not 

beneficial to his cause, or that of the Pubs. 

So, the Pub senators had a backup plan, and have been sending Gonzales notes all 

morning -- you're a gooberhead, and you're going to go down as the biggest 

gooberhead of all time. 

At which point, something in Gonzales snapped. He realized he the one being tossed 

under a bus. 

Now he's going to bite anything and everything that gets in his face. 

Oh, he'll never knowingly turn on Bush, but we're about to see something splendid once 

Whitehouse takes over the microphone. 


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Bingo! 

we're about to see something splendid once Whitehouse takes over the 

microphone 

This is what I've been waiting for. 

Feingold? Set-up for Schumer. Schumer? Set-up for Durbin. Durbin? Set-up for former 

USA Sheldon Whitehouse, who hits the grand slam and clears the bases. 





then Brownback& Hatch didn't get the bus memo n/t 

by jsm6022 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:40:52 PM EDT 


Graham: You said "not the right people 

at the right time" in regards to the USA. What if that standard was applied to you? 




Did he say that? LOL. n/t 





Now let's just say it was a personality conflict 

Graham, why don't you just say they are related to the VT shooter for Gods sake. 

Already they have been accused bad judgement, poor management let's say they are 

anti social as well 

Ass hole 

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Arghhh. I hit Spector in the poll by mistake! (9+ / 0-) 

Erase that. And arrest me. I mean Schumer. 

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Look on the bright side. 

At least you didn't pick Hatch. 





Sen. Orrin Hack 

by Hillbilly Dem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:08:45 PM EDT 


Shorter Graham: 

"You're a good guy! You never did anything naughty did you?" 

And Gonzo proves he's delusional: "I continue to be an effective Attorney General." 

Barf barf barf. 




asdf 

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Does Gonzo see the irony here? He listed reasons why he fired attorney's and one was 

that they weren't doing their job to his satisfaction and others did not run a tight ship. 

Yet here we have Gonzo admitting that Sampson was running things in his own office? 




Republicans are definitely 

irony challenged. 





Graham - *Yawn* 


by UniC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:10 PM EDT 


protesters? (3+ / 0-) 

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Making up reasons to fire people, but you're soooo nice and non partisan 

Bring back Schumer for another smile at gonzo's squirming 


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What was the gavel for? 



Graham... 

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Really, REALLY wants to rehabilitate this yetch. I'm not sure that abu is cooperating 

though. He's gotta stick with his weeks of prep. 




He wouldn;t have done worse if he missed the prep 




Just Goes to Show That No Matter How Much You 

Prepare, you will still flunk the test if your a big enough dumbass. 





Study? 

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This schmuck could have the answers written on his forearm and still flunk. He could 

have copied off of Stephen Jay Gould's paper and flunked. 

Abu Gonzo is to Dick Cheney as Allen Glick was to Lefty Rosenthal 

by Hillbilly Dem on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:14:11 PM EDT 


Gonzales' Sgt. Schultz Defense (6+ / 0-) 

In his testimony regarding the U.S. attorneys scandal before the Senate Judiciary 

Committee this morning, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales once again offered his Sgt. 

Schultz defense. Like the bumbling German guard in Hogan's Heroes, Gonzales 

essentially claimed "I know nothing, nothing!" Sadly, his own recent statements show 

that while Gonzales may be similarly stupid, he is not ignorant. 

The Attorney General's recent op-eds show his dilemma. While claiming to have played 

no role in the evaluation of the fired attorneys, Gonzales claimed they lost his 

confidence nonetheless... 

For the details, see: 

"Gonzales' Sgt. Schultz Defense." 

For the latest news, document dumps, email archives, hearing transcripts and other 

essential materials in the firings of U.S. attorneys, see: 

"The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents." 

by Avenging Angel on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:23 PM EDT 


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gonzo crying to mama 

going every which he can to save his ars. 

working with congress? no, u have lied to congress. 



"You are aware that you have a tremendous 

credibility problem with many members of this Congress?" 

No shit, Sherlock 



12.28ET Durbin up. 



He thinks he should continue as AG! 

by paige on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:20:54 PM EDT 


Durbin now up. 




Gonzo is a pathetic little man 



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I tried. I tried. I didn't have anything to hide. I persue truth and accountability - oh, 

that justice part I don't recollect that as part of my job. 

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Starts right off with a Rove question. 

Gonzo equivocates. 

and the worst AG this country has ever had bar none. A weepy, poor me performance 

complete with stuttering 

He is an embarrassment to the country. A moron. The only reason he is AG is because 

he is a Bushy and also because congress did not do enough oversight by allowing him 

to become AG in the first place. It is totally obvious how stupid he is from these 

hearings. Every person in the Country should be forced to see this. People should 

know what kind of idiots Bush keeps recommending. 


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He was hired to protect Bush 

whatever that entailed: 

to lie, to cheat, . . . or not to "recall." 




What I want to know 

Is why is Gonzo protecting kkKarl...because by doing so, Abu you come off looking like 

a fool, a fraud, a hack, a buffoon...you've thoroughly humiliated yourself here. 



Yeah but the AEI has a nice job waiting for him 




C-SPAN AIRING IT LIVE 

They just went to picture in picture while the House is having a floor vote. 





Graham: (17+ / 0-) 

My problem is you apologized in April about their job performance, but it took us a long 

time to nail that down. 

When you made your decision was it based on trust and not knowledge. 

AG: Fair to say. I trust my staff. 

G: It really does bother that people like Mr. Iglesias weren't able to tell their side of the 

story. 

AG: I agree with that 

G: You said Ms. Lam did have notice 

AG: There were meetings 

G: Were these really performance based or did they just have personality conflicts? 

AG..... 

G: I think that's what happen.... 

AG: I disagree with that 

G: You said something like they weren't the right people at the right time. What would 

you say if I applied that to you? 

AG: I think I've been good.... 

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AG: Better communications with the Congress. I didn't no to the doc request. I didn't 

say you couldn't interview my staff. 

G: You are aware you have a credibility problem with the Congress. Today's a start. 

AG: Yes 

*Just a note about Graham. He had almost a resigned demeanor. I think he's very 

disappointed in the AG and almost believes he's full of it. Very subdued questioning. 



durbin up now 

gonzo is toast. 



This is painful to watch 

It is death by a thousand questions. The man should have the grace and dignity to 

resign now. 

It is over. 

Chat with a Therapist Online 

by etherapy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:42:43 PM EDT 


to fix damage.. 

Gonzales thinks he should continue to dialogue with Congress. 

"I've got nothing to hide.... everything I've done is to pursue truth and accountability!" 

Okeedoekee!! 



for the next AG... 

by mlecin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:21:35 PM EDT 


Not until 

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can we hire someone with a MEMORY???? 

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We have an administration that asks attorney generals to do things that won't land 

them in jail. Until then, a memory makes the occupation extremely hazardous. 



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Never seems to recall 

any conversations with Rove. Now doesn't recall issues related to Fitzgerald. 





Rove Who? 




Notice the pall that hangs 

in the air at the mention of "Rove" ... it's pretty spooky the way the volume falls as the 

fog rises ..... muahhaha 


by UniC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:28:12 PM EDT 


CSPAN TV back while Senate votes 

SO much better than just the audio. 

More floor votes, please! 


Heschel 



While the HOUSE votes, sorry. 

But great because they take a lot longer! 


Heschel 



Gonzo doesn't know whats in the new york times? 




nope (4+ / 0-) 

NYT isn't the WSJ. 

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Or the Washington Times 

by edwardssl on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:11 PM EDT 


This Administration doesn't read the Times 

They only watch Faux Noise Machine. 




Excellent question by Durbin. 

Were you a part of White House meetings with Rove selecting USAs - 

Gonzales explains what the meetings were. 

Durbin lasers in on Fitzpatrick as the subject of his questioning and Gonzales' 

involvement in the selection. 



Graham is trying to bury 

that the reasons for firing AGs were political; but, it's so clear that Gonzo is lying, he's 

coming up with alternative reasons to nail him. If they can make Gonzo resign and not 

acknowledge that the firings were an attempt to politicize the DOJ, that's a qualified 

victory for the administration. 





Intellectually Incapable of defending himself 

He has always struck me as a man of intellect and competence beneath the 

requirements for his position. 

I think it would be prudent to revisit the roll call vote on his confirmation: 

Here it is 

Hint, Hint, shayera 

This is about the Prior Senate, too. Further, it is about the deep commitment to the 

(failed)“Permanent Republican Majority” plan. 

::::: 




Intellectually capable (5+ / 0-) 

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is not a phrase that ever occurred to me regarding Gonzo. 


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Sigh...Yet Again, Gonzo Doesn't Recall n/t 



How can attorney have such a bad memory 

How would he pass the bar? 

Sick of "I don't recall." 



wow. 

Bad Memory's a Valuable Asset in a Cover-up 

"I have no recollection; I have no memory of that; I can't recall"--all are part of the 

classic republican defense stragegy to use in their cover-ups. Reagan made it work for 

him & a new defense for repub criminals was born. 



Graham.... 

Surely you were situationally aware that you had a credibility problem 


by Jackson on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:22:37 PM EDT 


"No, I wasn't 

and don't call me Shirley" 

by Rasputin on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:36:02 PM EDT 


Durbin is my guy from Illinois... 

Don't live there any more, but I am so proud of my Senators... 





Patrick Fitzgerald is now the topic (7+ / 0-) 

and his evaluation 

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Durbin: Did you sit in on meetings with Rove 

to discuss these nominations? 

And Fredo doesn't recall whether he was in on the meeting re: Fitzgerald's appointment 

to investogate the Plame matter, either. 

I like where my Senator is going here! 

Peace. 



I dont recall.... 

selective memory, or lies????? 

by onionjim on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:22:49 PM EDT 


Jeezus 

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Gonzales is pathetic. 




This is so funny . . . 

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What a country. Can sane, grown up people please take the horns and impeach this 

imbecile? 



I can't recall anything... 

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I don't recall. Where was it reported? Can I see that statement? I don't know what you 

are referring to. Durbin is good! 

except saving the Republic from Sampson. ALthough now that I think of it...Sampson 

still ran roughshod over me. 




Durbin going for the throat after Graham's 

strawman. Major awesomeness. 

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D:Do you think that was a fair evaluation of Fitz (6+ / 0-) 


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I don't recall...again 




and again, and again, and again. and again... n/t 


by reflectionsv37 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:24:32 PM EDT 


So, 

***! **, ****** ******?? 

Look Senator, I feel ****** because we've done **** *******. Clearly, ***** issues I 

have to deal *****. In the future, I promise ** ***** and to ***** because as AG, 

it's ****** responsibility ** see ***** to **** *** ***. 


anonymity..." 



(5+ / 0-) 

how's the hearing going? 

Electronic Darwinism 

True Facts about Markos 

by Moody Loner on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:23:55 PM EDT 


Durbin is asking about attempt to fire Fitz 




Well, all I can say is this 

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in the middle of an investiagtioon of the white house 

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It must be one hell of a lot easier to be Attorney General than I thought it was. 

Everything can just go in one head and out the other. 


early 1960s 

by escapee on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:24:14 PM EDT 


Only requirement: Be a Total WH Puppet n/t (3+ / 0-) 


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What the hell is he aware of? All he ever says 

is I don't recall, I was not aware 

I resent that he gets a pay check paid for by our tax dollras 



Let's Pay Him Piecework For Facts He Knows-- 

whatever he doesn't know, must not have been done by him, so no pay. 





He'll be the lowest paid public official 

OR he'll suddenly decide he does know some of the answers 



He only recalls what 

the Prez and Rove tell him to. 




The time stamp 

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I thought it was just me. 

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on all of the comments is 7-8 minutes wrong on the slow side. 

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evals by Sampson of Fitz... (9+ / 0-) 

were never shown to Gonzales? No... says he recused himself from things having to do 

with Fitzgerald. 

Was he aware that Sampson had recommended Fitz be removed in the middle of his 

investigations of Libby? 


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Gonzo doesn't recall. 



Durbin asking about whether Fredo was in 

meeting about Fitz. Love where my Senator is going here. Fredo sweating bullets! 

Peace. 



!! 

Durbin is taking Gonzo to the fire. 




Check all the names he's linking 

Rove, Meirs... it's on like Donkey Kong. 



Kyle tried to ax Fitzgerald . . Abu doesn't remem 

doesn't remember a thing about it 

in fact the conversation probly never happened 



I didn't do anything. No one saw me do anything. 





This is Gonzo with a MONTH OF PREPARATION ? 


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If they saw me doing something they're lying.-Atty General Bart Simpson. 

Pitiful. Beyond pitiful. I wouldn't put this guy in charge of taking out the trash in a law 

office ! 



That's what I've been thinking. (2+ / 0-) 

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One can only imagine how bad he'd be without all the coaching. 


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Actually - the problem is there's no excuse for what he's been up to and no one can 

admit it. Hence he's being thrown under the bus for incompetence rather than 

malfeasance. 





but he'd make great photocopies of his ass ... 

REPEATEDLY! just like he's been showin' us all morning long ... 

"Wonderful things - subpoenas." (Absence of Malice - the movie) 

by sundancekid11 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:11:07 PM EDT 


If he says "I don't recall" one more time... 

I'll scream. 



Scream 

�� 

by DanC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:26:30 PM EDT 


You're going to be... 





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scream scream and scream some more 

doing a lot of screaming today!!! 

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anything having to do with Fitzgerald coz it never happened. I recall that it never 

happened. 




I hope someone with more time than I have (6+ / 0-) 

reviews the tape and counts every single time he said "I don't recall", "I don't 

remember", etc. 

Just for posterity's sake. 

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04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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Here 

Backdrop music for that video 





Some reporter said 55 times. 

Sounds about right. 

by leveymg on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:54:28 PM EDT 


I think we can look to Jon Stewart for that. 

Rather like all the clips of Bush saying "stay the course". 





AG remembers the nuance of transcripts 

but he can't remember whole conversations. 





Yeah I know, its glaring obvious. 


will. 

by Roger Fox on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:28:16 PM EDT 


did you ever have a conversation 





My Dear Sir! (3+ / 0-) 

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with anyone about any topic on any day at any time? 

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We all know that Gonzo's selective hearing and occasional outburts of muteness 

preclude conversations. 


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Durbin _ are you asking us to believe that the 

highest profile Spec prosec. and his job performance 

was a topic and you don't recall? 

What about with Rove about Inglesiais 



Bingo 

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And by the BY having met Fitzgerald prodfessionally, and being aware of his rep around 

the Chicago legal community, The characterization of Fitz as "not distinguished" is utter 

crap. 

He was regarded with Fear and respect in the Chicago defense bar. His resume (Taking 

down the Gambino crime family, and the original WTC bombers), and most importantly 

his personal demeanor, impressed the hell out of us. He was specifically sent to chicago 

because he was known as having a personal vendetta against public corruption , and 

was believed to be the man who could finally bring down Mayor Daley. 

Their plan went badly awry however when Fitz first turned his sights on Republican Gov. 

Ryan. 


by Magorn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:18 PM EDT 


If He Recused Himself, Why Does He Believe 

the answer is no? Please nail him! 

by leonard145b on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:26:15 PM EDT 


Deafening silence n/t 


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Igalsius is the USA for Mexico? 

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Former USA for New Mexico. n/t (0 / 0) 




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Schumer: "you ordered the code red" 

people obey orders or people die. 



Ironic given 

Yeah it was remiscent of that and ironic givenwho was on that list of fired attys -no? 




Wow 





heh 

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Gonzo: "Sampson never raised recommendation of firing Fitzgerald with me. And, btw, 

I wouldn't characterize it as a recommendation." 

Um, if it didn't happen, how can you characterize it???? 

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He didn't say it didn't happen. 

He said a recommendation didn't happen, because he didn't consider it a 

recommendation (so what did happen, then?). 



Well, he actually said other things 

like, he never talked to me about it, I don't remember that conversation, etc. In other 

words, it's definitely not a semantics issue, and he won't be able to claim that based on 

his words. 





See now that's the thing. 

Very much like Sampson's oral list that he said was never written down, but had a 

"typo" on it. 



he either lies (3+ / 0-) 

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or conveniently doesn't remember 

by etorrey on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:26:44 PM EDT 


Can we just bring Igelias in with the Sgt At Arms 

and put Abu under arrest at the witness table like Nicholson in a Few Good Men? 



Is that a "plan" or an "idea"-- ? nt 




A good idea. n/t 





Works for Me! n/t 



gonzo sounds beaten.. 

Almost sounds like he's giving up.. 



I was just about to post 

the same thing. 



Time for the waterboard 

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by Jon Meltzer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:28:49 PM EDT 


The opposite; time for a cookie (1+ / 0-) 


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omg 

where did they get this guy? 



AbuG is a real estate lawyer. 



After this, not even that. Who will hire him? 


leader (1840-1904) 



well, look at poindexter, ollie, etc 

though granted that poindexter is an evil genius. Abu is a hack! 



Apparently he'd get hired for name recognition 

One of the local affiliates in Houston did a story on it last week. They showed a local 

office where one of the names of the partners was "Giuliani" (yes, Rudy) and for the life 

of me I cannot remember the other--so it works. 



saved bush's ass by 

hiding his National Guard and Criminal Records in Texas. Long time criminal crony. 





Willing to cover up 

Bush's National Guard records. 

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His reviews of Texas death sentence cases show how inept he was then. 

Loyalty to Bush was the sole recommendation for AG job. 




Can't remember discussions with Bush's Brain? (5+ / 0-) 

However, he remembers specific details about certain prosectutions raised by Repub 


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Senators. How Conveeeenient. 





Karl uses telepathy (crackberry) 



He's telling Congress that 

its a matter being investigated by Congress. 

Like they're unaware. 




Durbin is hitting paydirt too. 

Just proves how people from Illinois even Senators look up to and admire and try to be 

like Wisconsin folks. 

(j/k ... Current Badger, former FIB) 





Now blaming 

Iglesias for not informing AG re: phone calls from Domenici and Wilson. What an ass. 





now we know 

Abu fired Iglesias cuz Iglesias didn't narc on Domenici. 

Yeaaahhh, right. Cuz Iglesias knew what would happen if he did. 

Holy shit!! 

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Can we clone Gates for all offices (6+ / 0-) 

at least hes competent...this is the dumbest AG in history.... 




04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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He Could Hold All Offices Since Obviously Those 

who do aren't doing anything at all. Bush like most vapid noblemen appoints 

figureheads like himself. 





Please...no, Gates is just a clever 

a**hole, but an a**hole nonetheless. He will lie and manipulate the truth on the surge, 

just watch. Eventually it will tarnish him as well. 



He's saying 

that since the congress is investigating iglesias and domenici and wilson, he doesn't 

want to say that what iglesias said in testimony is true. Nice. Slam iglesieas. 



talked to Rove about Iglesias?? 

Hello!!! 

"[Insert GOP presidential candidate here] is a racist, homophobic, child molester." 

Sufficiently Coulteresque? No, no, I need a veiled threat of violence. Damn! 

by Whigsboy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:28:13 PM EDT 


Maybe if we keep grilling him hard... 

he'll break and start crying for Daddy Rove. ;) 



So Abu doesn't read the paper either? n/t 



"I'm not conceding what Mr. Iglesias (6+ / 0-) 

said was true." 

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Well, Abu G, I'm not conceding anything you're saying is true either. 






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04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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Here's something for you to read, Gonzo! n/t 




Whenever he gets a question 

he was asked during practice over the prior month, he says 

"Senator, that's a very fair question" 

Then he goes into a stutter-free litanty that he has obviously committed to memory. 

Everything else is "I don't recall." 



Iglesias a liar? 

He didn't say it, but strongly suggested it.. 



Oh My.... 

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Iglesias deserved to be fired because he didn't rat out Domenici? 

Where is this going? 

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How will anyone spin this as a good performance.. 

in order to save Gonzo. Pathetic. His memory is faulty, he doesn't know when to shut 

up, must have had some kind of brain injury when he was young... 



They will wake up tomorrow and hear ... 

their wife ask, "Good morning Orrin, did you sleep well?" 





Was it a good decision to fire Iglesias? (9+ / 0-) 

Gonzo can't answer. He's blathering and filibustering. Scraping the barrel for supposed 

infractions by Iglesias. 




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"hindsight" 

Is metaphorically "crystal clear..." 

pooooor choice of words there, buddy. 

::::: 

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Hindsight - that crystal clear view you get 

after removing your browned nose from between the buttcheeks of Turdblossom. 




aaaaghghh! phone call 



Durbin: "is your continued service... 




Abu G doesn't know Patrick Collins? 





he wouldn't recognize his own mom at this point. 

by campskunk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:06 PM EDT 


note the caveat (11+ / 0-) 

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have to turn it off just as Durbin warms up 

going to make it difficult for prosecutors to do their jobs..." 

I woulda figure Abu G would have met Collins at some point. 

Gotta follow up on the caveats! He said "didn't recall discussing Lam with Rove.. as 

part of this process" 

So they did discuss Lam? As part of what? 

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Perjury avoidance is his #1 goal... 

If the answer about Fitz was condirtioned: 

"I believe, the answer is no." 



You got that right 




Gonzales Slaps The Legal Profession In The Face 

Every lawyer and person in the legal professions in the United States should be 

incensed. 

This guy is an embarrassment to all of us. Worse than that, he is inflicting permanent 

damage on the rule of law and the legal profession. 

He should not only be removed as AG, but should be disbarred for life. 

XM Radio Is Unfair To Thom Hartmann and AAR. Instead of XM Radio Channel 167, 

stream Air America Radio On-line at http://www.airamerica.com/listen 

by freepress4all on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:30:15 PM EDT 


That's the goal 

The entire point of a Republican administration is to lessen oversight and regulation on 

multinational corporations. 

Anything they can do to destroy the credibility of gov't. and the legal system works to 

that end. 

Gonzalez is doing an exemplary job from that perspective. 

by Jim J on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:04 PM EDT 


I wish he name ONE thing he has or will do good.. 

he keeps saying he has and will 

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No, it IS about you ABU (5+ / 0-) 

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because YOU represent the dept. Geezez. I feel for the career lawyers in DOJ. He can 

give that crap up of attacking him attacks the career people! 





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04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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Karl Rove? 

G: Who is that? I don't recall. 




"whether I can be effective" 

"I believe that I can be" 





The little Attorney General 

that couldn't 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



"If you ignore that reality 

you cannot be an effective AG." 




I loved it when Gonzo said earlier: 

I didn't have any transparancy into that process 

At least he was looking for another way to say "I don't recall" 

Pathetic. 

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Gonzales tells Durbin that attack on Gonzales (14+ / 0-) 

is like attacking the Department - 

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the old attack the war = attack the troops - Durbin calls Gonzales on it! 




04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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Durbin is criticizing you, you dumb ass 



Distraction for the mass media to run comment 

saying Dems disrespect career attorneys 



Shorter Gonzo: please don't be mean to me 

I'm a good AG, I really am. 




Then he tried to HIDE behind the career 

DOJ employees. 



Break until 2 o'clock. 





Can we torture him now? 


by Jon Meltzer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:49 PM EDT 


Durbin for TZAR n/t 


by gabie on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:06 PM EDT 


"I have issues" 

�� 

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by DanC on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:11 PM EDT 


watch out (5+ / 0-) 

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quoth AG AG. Ohhhhh poor baby! 

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tonight he'll probably go shave his head and check into rehab 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



Durbin took him to the woodshed 




Seriously. 

Bent him over his knee. 




Gonzo: attacking the dept is like 

attacking career employees 




Graham 

Gr: at the end of the day you said something that struck me - that sometimes these 

were not the right people at the right time. what would you think if i said that with 

respect to you? 

[Leahy bangs gavel] 

Go: i believe i made mistakes 

GR: what do you need to do 

Go: i need to have dialogues with the congress, keep them informed. i didn't say no to 

docs, didnt say no to talking to my staff, i got the office of prof resp to get involved 

Gr: finally you are situationally aware that you have a credibility prob and you are 

trying to fix that 

Go: yes 

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Lunch break n/t 

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Gonzales: I agree that as Attorney General (3+ / 0-) 


04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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I made it harder for career prosecutors to do their jobs 

I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15) 



Abu's opinion: 

he can continue to do a good job. 

he says if anyone disagrees with that, it's an attack on all the professionals in the DoJ. 

Abu warns: "be careful about criticizing the department - criticize me" 




Durbin 

by paranoidAmerican on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:33 PM EDT 


I envy you for your Senator 




Peace. 

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saying critics of AG is like president saying criticizing war is criticizing soldiers. Dick got 

worked up on that one. 

I love my senator. 

(5+ / 0-) 

I'm stuck with Isaakson and Chambliss. 

My condolences! 



AG--asked what he ate for dinner last night. (31+ / 0-) 

Senator: Could you tell me what you had for dinner last night? 

AG: I do not recall. 

Senator. Did you have anything to drink? 

AG: Yes, I think I had something to drink, but I am not sure what it 

was. 

Senator: Did you drink it in a glass, or a cup? 

AG: A glass I think....I am not really sure. 

Senator: Did you eat at home or did you dine out? 


Senator: Did you dine alone or with friends? 


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Senator: (sigh) Did you eat it in a box? Did you eat it with a fox? 


Senator: Is there anything about last night you do recall? 

AG: I recall that I actually ate dinner, but I did not make the dinner or 

order the dinner. Someone else chose for me. If there was a menu, I 

did not read it, but whatever option was presented to me, I accepted 

it. 

Senator: (sigh). You really are a lying sack of shit, you know that? 





second round 

he'll never make it 

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by pissedpatriot on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:49 PM EDT 


And the audience erupts 

as the break takes place... 

by Sundoggy on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:31:51 PM EDT 


is Code Pink in the house? (eom) 


by section29 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:44 PM EDT 


yes it was code pink nt 

The world will end not with a bang, but with a "Do'oh!" 

by Love and Death on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:59:16 PM EDT 


The Aty Gen Scolds! 

Did I hear that? The AG is offering advice to Senator Durbin on honorable action? 

Heh there goes Code Pink. 

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Who are these idiots yelling (8+ / 0-) 

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04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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Cmon public. Have more class. 



Code Pink I believe n/t 





They're Fucking Idiots 

No offense meant to anyone here who is a member, but that Org is a brain short of 

being sentient. 





Clear the chamber... 

They make us all look bad and throw red meat to the Wingers. 





Could be reepers in drag 

...calling mr. guiliani, paging mr. guiliani.... 




I disagree 

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by kck on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:36:55 PM EDT 


Class? (5+ / 0-) 


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The presence of public derision and protest comes when people are fed up. It has 

symbolic value and is only seemed to start when the call to recess was gaveled. 

When that lying sack of shit has been making a mockery of his office and of justice in 

this nation? 

I'm all for mooning and shit-throwing, honestly. Anyone there have any tomatoes? 



04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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After lunch is going to be pretty strong. 

Immediate outcries after the break is called. 




The crowd seems a wee bit perturbed with Abu. 



What I could make out 

"Gonzales is a liar!" 

"Fire Gonzales now!" 

"IMPEACH! IMPEACH!" 

"He's hurting America!" 

by ReEnergizer on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:07 PM EDT 


This going to be a long day 

We get a second round 



d@mn I have a meeting at 4pm 

I won't be able to hear the whole thing and have no way to tape off the radio. 

hey--people are yelling impeach impeach! 





it's going to be an excrutiatingly long day 

for Abu 

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"The feeling of respect for all species will help us recognize the noblest nature in 

ourselves." - Thich Nhat Hanh 

by friendlyfire on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:39:58 PM EDT 


Yeah, but fun..that's why i stayed home to watch (1+ / 0-) 

by jsm6022 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:43:38 PM EDT 



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04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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Lucky sod. I'm too busy at work to do that. 

I've just had a chance to scroll through a couple of threads - but then it's back to the 

salt mines. 





woo hoo 

Waaaaaahhhhh. I'm missing all the fun. 

you're saying that attacking the pres is attacking soldiers 

awesome Durbin 





Could anyone make out what was being said 

in the audience? The internet feed isn't clear. 

oh wait... FIRE GONZALES NOW!! LIAR LIAR LIAR! 

that was clear. 



Gotta love that crowd .... 

calling for him to GO NOW!!!! 




he lives in the land of makebelieve... 

he thinks he can do a great job as AG. He's gonna work on it! It's not about him, it's 

about what's best for the department. He's delusional to think that he's the best we can 

do! 



Who is screaming "Liar" in the background? 

Code Pink? 

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must be the CodePink crowd - LOL (4+ / 0-) 


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I think I want to join Code Pink 

I love what they do. 





Will Abu get fired during Recess? 

It could happen. He's pathetic. 


leader (1840-1904) 



I was wondering if he would quit 

hoping he doesn't have to come back after lunch! 





Ha ha 

No 

Just about the only way out of this afternoon's curb stomping for Abu is seppuku. 



Gallery is yelling Liar 

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"You Have The Power!" - Howard Dean 

by talex on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:32:22 PM EDT 


Lindsey Graham Is A Party Hack 




"after the funeral is over" (5+ / 0-) 

Did anyone else laugh at this given that this looks like Abu's funeral? 


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actually... 

the funeral is later. right now he's LYING in state. 



Oh, snap! That was GOOOOOOOD! 




That explains his crypt-ic remarks. 




okay, for that, there should be Comedian Gitmo. 

"Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, 

you know, uh, limber." 

by Cartoon Peril on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:15:35 PM EDT 


Whitehouse should be good 

Can't wait it hear his questioning. 




I'm looking forward to it! 

Too bad I'm at work and can't watch the smackdown live. 

Support Temporary Workers' Rights - Change to Win! - -6.25, -4.36 

by Scoopster on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:41:28 PM EDT 


when recess begins, shouts break out: (8+ / 0-) 

FIRE GONZALES NOW!!! 

many, many voices 

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Lots of people shouting 

And those near the microphones are giggling at them. "There's too many of them to 

kick out." 

Surge NOLA, not Iraq! 

by AmyVVV on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:26 PM EDT 


Is he on drugs right now? 

What was all that"Attack me, not the hardworking, etc., etc." in aid of? 




Wanna keep this one up until it resumes? 




Yeah, 

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makes more sense than opening a new one right now. 


by Heiuan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:57 PM EDT 


i suggest a new thread during the lunch recess 

to recap highlights so far. 





my audio has interview with Senators 





Not my decision (1+ / 0-) 

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so there's new stuff to live blog on. 

But there's probably a need for a full thread just to re-cap, summarize and digest. 


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by Catte Nappe on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:39:03 PM EDT 



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L:iar Liar Liar - fire gonzo now! 




from audience 

"he's a liar" 

"fire Gonzales now" 





"he's hurting America" 





"real patriots stand up for the Constitution" 





Schumer regarding protestors... 

Pen Rai! 

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"too many people to kick out" 

"he said Geneva Convention quaint" 

"We have too many people to kick out" 



"Fire Gonzales Now" "Liar"... 

Audience members: "Impeach"... Wonder if they'll be allowed back in? 



said..he tortures people 



Open mike: Schumer (12+ / 0-) 

"We have too many people to kick out" 

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in response to the chanters. 



Was that Shumer on the open mic 

who just said "too many people to kick out"? 



Fire Gonzales Now 

Cries from the crowd.. 

Shmer off mic" 

"We have too many people to kick out..." 

 



Why do the badly behaved nuts 

always have to be from our side? 

No matter ow much i like their message, the Senate is no place for disruptive 

demonstrations 




Wow! 

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by stevej on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:43:32 PM EDT 


Not always...remember Florida 2000? nt 

by PeterHug on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:49:01 PM EDT 


1000 recommends 

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RW frame for one and don't Dictatorships rely on everyone being good little citizens. 

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I'll sit down and shut up when the other side does. 

"When does the greed stop?" - Sen. Edward Kennedy 

by Cory Bantic on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:24:20 PM EDT 


I disagree - we own these places (2+ / 0-) 

The session is over and the Senate and the House are OUR'S, not the Senators and 

Representatives. We the people own these places, and it is about time we start acting 

like it again. 


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But in respect for the Decorum of such place 

is it too much to ask that our people behave in a way that repects the decorum of such 

a place? If nothing else such outbursts provide the MSM with an excuse to ignore the 

meat of this important story by focusing on the more colorful sideshows like this. 

If you acted like that in a courtroom, the judge would be more than entitled to toss 

you in jail, for Contempt of Court, why then, Should you not be expected to observe the 

same level of behavior here? 




Wow, many in the audience yelling "IMPEACH" 




About 10 




Are you watching a big screen 




Yeah 

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I can count about 20 some-odd Code Pink people in the audience. Two ladies are the 

loudest, with one guy off camera. 

I can't really see the audience clearly on the live internet feed on CSpan. 

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42" monitor here and I was literally counting them off. 




AG: Do you know what you were wearing yeterday? (13+ / 0-) 

AG: I can't recall. I'm not saying I was or wasn't wearing clothes yesterday, I'm not 

saying that. What I will say, I - I'm pretty sure I would've worn clothes? But, again, 

with all due respect Senator, I cannot recall. 

If you refer to Sampson's testimony, however, you'll find that the testimony shows that 

I wear clothes. 


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anonymity..." 



"fire gonzales now!!!" 

"He's hurting America He's Hurting our country" can be heard from the gallery 





"IMPEACH!" 

being shouted now 




Ah - sweet music! 


by The Raven on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:35:06 PM EDT 


There's tons of screaming "you're a liar" 



Code Pink 

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That made me wish I were there to add my voice to the chorus. 

It was the sound of America's remaining conscience. 

and people holding up signs saying "resign" as they go into recess. 

I can't see if they are all wearing t shirts or anything. 

But after the reaming durbin just gave him, and then this eruption of LIAR LIAR, man, 

it's wild. 

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I'm watching CSPAN3 and it's Code Pink making all the noise. 




Shumer is saying (6+ / 0-) 

there are so many contradications, I don't see how a person can.... 

here is somebody who has performed so poorly, doesn't have trust, is the 

administration so bad that they can't see it 

we can do better for attorney general 

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04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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two issues here 

one is capability of gonzo - there is a consensus, he doesn;'t belong 

and second is what happened to the us attorneys 

issues of credibility, management, independence from white house 

so many contradictions, sampson said ag did it. it's like abbott and costello 



Leave those mics on!! 




Schumer: "We've got too many people to kick out." 

I think that's what I just heard on the open mic from Schumer. He says with a giggle. 

Going into break. 



I can back you up on that. I heard the same 

exact thing. 



whoa! 





yes 

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he just said "we've got some people to kick out." some people in the seats are staging 

a bit of a protest! heh 

was there something similar earlier that prompted leahy's comments about decorum? 

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Code Pink (1+ / 0-) 

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that was what they were talking about. 

Code Pink people trying to get some coverage. 

Google it. 

In the chambers being the usual idiots. They don't seem to understand how much their 

childish tactics undermine the Democrats as a whole. 




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I disagree. 



they are holding up signs and making it hard 

Unseen Gore Video 

by TeresaInPa on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:51:38 PM EDT 


Didn't they wait for the session to be over? 





Yup they 

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for other people to see. I think they are being incredibly disruptive and rude. 

As I said above, WE own these places, and it is about time we start to take them back. 

The senators do NOT own them, and as long as the proceedings are not being 

interrupted, I am glad to see protest. Do you think Independents are thinking any 

differently than they are shouting? I don't think so. 

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should be good little citizens and politely blog about it like us. /snark 

by stevej on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:42:07 PM EDT 


LOL! You know what I mean 

They are being unnecessarily disruptive. They could be a hell of a lot more effective, if 

their tactics weren't antics. 




It takes courage 

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to do what they are doing. We have forgotten how it works when people are really 

involved with government. When people are outraged and fed up and oppressed. We 

are expected to vote, then STFU. 

We need some 60s type protests right now -- on steroids, man. 

"There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in 

that order." Ed Howdershelt 

by JuliaAnn on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:16:27 PM EDT 


CNN is giving equal time in showing testimony (5+ / 0-) 


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To this critical hearing about the validity of the rule of law in this country and the trial 

of Mary Winkler who shot her husband. 




Well at least they are getting it half right. 



Wonderful Bronx Cheers 

from the peanut gallery at the break! 


by deepsouthdoug on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:33:53 PM EDT 


after lunch... 

...ought to be a yawn...but for whitehouse... 



Leahy: I thought the questions were legitimate 

and the answers were disappointing." 



haha...i don't know who was on those murder board 

Leahy rocks... 

Politics will never ever change if all we ever do is target double prime voters. 

by JerzyD on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:35:02 PM EDT 


and a "murder board" is??? 

I THINK it's the process for preparing for a hearing where people put you through every 

tough question they can. 

True? 

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If so, I understand Leahy's confusion. 


Heschel 



You're correct (2+ / 0-) 

On both counts. 

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by Califlander on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:41:03 PM EDT 


CSPAN Radio is picking up some 

of Leahy's comments - Leahy is very dissatisfied. 

A reporter says that Gonzales has said "I don't recall" like 55 times. 



Naw...... 

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the number cant be that low.He said it at least 3 or four times per answer multiply that 

by 5 or 6 questions and then multiply that by 12 senators. 


by pharoah on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:54:27 PM EDT 


Well, that might have just been counting 

that specific phrase. He used other phrases like "I don't remember being aware." So if 

you counted all of the possible ways to phrase his position of total memory loss, then 

you'd probably be well into the hundreds by now and the day is only half over! 



Leahy says he's disappointed with the answers 

and that they're inadequate. 



Leahy: "have to wonder who was 

on those murder boards" 

"I have not found the answers adequate" 

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"i'm gonna"? and "you should attack me"? (4+ / 0-) 

FUCK you and the peanut gallery that applauds you. 

YOUR INABILITY TO ADMINISTER DOJ IN AGREEMENT WITH US CODE, YOUR 

MENDACITY is precisely why you are in the chair today. 

abu, you have no business instructing congress on how or what it should say to you. 





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8 

LOL, I just posted on 7 and refreshed the home page and here is 8 with 245 posts on it! 



Ya gotta be 

fast to keep up. 



I've not Found Answers Adequate... 

Was that Leahy? 



Durbin (20+ / 0-) 

D: did you ever sit in on meetings about USAs 

G: i was a part of that committee, mr rove would occasionally be present at these 

meetings 

D: re district of illinois 

G: don't recall conv and don't recall if i was present 

D: been reported that rove had concerns about patric fitzgerald 

G: i don't recall, where has it been reported 

D: march ny times article 

D: you took over as ag in jan 2005 

G: feb 2005 

D: at time you knew who fitz was 

G: yes 

D: he was high profile, chosen by comey, valerie plame 

G: correct 

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D: shortly after you arrived there was an eval of fits 

G: no don't know what eval you're referring to 

G: i'm aware now 

D: you're aware that fitz was in process of investig members of wh staff, "has not 

distinguished himself positively or negatively" 

G: was not aware at time, am now 

D: were never shown to you 

G: don't recall ever seeing 

D: do you think that was a fair eval at that time 

G: i recused myself wrt mr fitz, even if i weren't recused i would have serious 

questions about ... during invetig.... person think he's excellent 

D: re recom that fitz be removed, did sampson speak to you about how he was going 

to rec fitz be removed 

G: don't recall 

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D: didn't happen or you don't recall 

G: 2 years, thousands of conversations, don't think that conv happened 

D: your chief of staff is going to make a rec to president's WH counsel and you don't 

remember? 

G: don't think that happened, wouldn't characterize as a rec... don't think he raised it 

with me 

D: did you ever have a conv with the pres or mr rove about the removalo of fitz 

G: believe answer to that is no 

D: re the other us attys, ever have a conv with rove about removal of iglesias 

G: recall a discussion, not about removal of iglesias, was about voter fraud cases 

D: what did rove say to you 

G: my recoll, heard complaints about lack of prosecutions in voter fraud in 3 districts 

incl NM 

... 

G: there was no conclusion to that conv 

G: believe i commun this info to mr samps but don't recall what happened after that 

D: were you party to his rmoval 

G: it was my decision 

D: do you think that was right decision 

G: very fair question, btw this is investig by congress, not conceding taht what 

sampson said was true... if a memb of congr contacts USA to put pressure that's a very 

serious issue.. if we had known it prob would ahve made a difference. we know that 

iglesias did not report - intentionally violated a policy that was intended to protect him 

D: in sit w/ carol lam did you talk to rove about her fate 

G: don't recall any conv with rove about that process 

D: article chicago tribune by patrick collins, asst USA, lead prosec trial of former gov of 

IL, served with fitz. he believes that it raises questions - while USAs serve at pleas of 

pres, don't serve to please the presidents. 

G: agree with that 





Leahy 

"Who in heavens name was on those murder boards." 

""Very unsatisfied with the answers." 



CODE PINK (4+ / 0-) 

Stand up for the constitution. 

Impeach! 

Gonzales Resign! 

I think it was Schumer who said there were too many to kick out. 

Hahaha! 

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well 

at least they didn't disrupt the actual hearing 




I think... 



Reporter says Gonzo says i dont recall 55 times 




haha 

what they are doing is great. 

The senators need to see the voracity of the public opinion. Why not invade the 

chambers? 

LEAHY overheard (giving interview) 

WHO was on those murder boards? 



over. 

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Arlen: I'm not going to comment on AG until it's 





He said DONE then corrected himself n/t 



Leahy is not satisfied with his answers 

a reporter asks how many times he says he doesn't recall, says it's been about 55 

times thus far 



Counted "I don't recalls" (2+ / 0-) 

Specter: "That's an improvement, I think" 

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Open Mike 



Reporter lady said they counted 

55 don't recalls ... had to be more than that 




Someone needs to preserve 

the after adjournment events (chants, comments at the mike). It may not be on the 

replay. 



MSM reporting 55 "I don't recalls" 

anybody else have a tally? There's probably more like 55 a live thread! 


anonymity..." 



n/t 

Reporter Questioned # of I don't recalls - 55? 



55 "I don't recalls" 

Are we still routinely torturing helpless prisoners, and if so, does it feel right that we as 

American citizens are not outraged by the practice? -Al Gore 

by soyinkafan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:36:02 PM EDT 


Specter, 55 I don"t recalls 



jinx (0 / 0) 

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if I heard correctly, Specter said that sounds like an improvement. Cute. 

"i think thats an improvement....." 

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Are we still routinely torturing helpless prisoners, and if so, does it feel right that we as 

American citizens are not outraged by the practice? -Al Gore 


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by soyinkafan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:37:23 PM EDT 


counted 55 times abu said "I don't recall" 

in brief break questioning by reporter to Leahy and Specter. 




Nine has been posted. 


Don't forget to unrec on your way out. 




I tallied 30 

but I'm happy to bow to a professional. I'm distracted from time to time. 




thnx 

plz remember to Unrecommend 8 (and earlier) 




how long is the break? 

An hour? 

Surge NOLA, not Iraq! 

by AmyVVV on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:36:09 PM EDT 


until 2 PM 

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Til 2pm...eom (1+ / 0-) 

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by Heiuan on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:38:59 PM EDT 



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04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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" I am struck by the fact that I have 

not found the answers adequate" Leahy. 

reporter "55 times I dont recall" 

Arlen deferring judgement. 





Spector just said on mike to question 

about more than 50 "i do not recalls" that it's an improvement! 



Leahy: 




Someone just said... 




he said I don't recall a lot more than 55 times 





Press gaggle going (3+ / 0-) 


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Don't know who was on the murder boards, but I am not satisfied. 

Specter: No comment until his testimony is over. 

I know who was on them: Ed Gilespie, Chair of the Republican Party of Virginia. 

that he used the statement "I don't recall" 55 times!! He's going to beat Sampsons 

hourly rate by at least double!! What a liar!!! 

I think the count is well over a hundred by now. 

on and still audible on C-Span 3 

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Leahy disappointed, given the fact that he had a month to prepare. 

Specter won't comment on resignation until the hearings are concluded. 




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Schumer was quite candid 

stated his disappointment and implied failure. 




I can't believe some of the media questions 

being pitched to Specter, such as "what does he need to do," to satisfy the committe? 

"What do you want to know from him"? 




12:44pmET-Lunch break n/t 



55 comments 

Spector asked about "Someone kept track of "I don't recalls" and it was 55 - what do 

you think of that" 

Spectr replies "that is an improvement" 

Nookylar engineer - will work for mangoes. 

by JTRAMA on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:37:12 PM EDT 


Shumer 



Did you hear the comment to Spectre from staff(?) 




Schumer 

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"So many contridiction. I don't knows. I don't see how he can be an effective AG." 

saying that 'they' are counting on him? 

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(0 / 0) 

How can he an effective AG? Performed poorly; doesn't have trust of both sides. Wow. 

Anyone who watched this - he seems to be far less qualified than those he fired. 



doesn't have trust of either side (2+ / 0-) 


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can't type quickly and 

do grammar check - sorry! 



Schumer: 

Gonzales seems less qualified than the people he fired. 

Consensus building that he should go. 




yup 

good for Schumer. Of course we know that they way this man got the job is by being 

a loyal syncophant. the people who should really be fired are named Bush and Cheney. 

But getting rid if Gonzo will have to do for now. 




kudos to CSPAN 

to keep up the coverage after the recess. This is good coverage, listening to the 

protesters, to the responses of Schumer and others to the press questions. 

Excellent. 

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Most Important Race of 08 

by shpilk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:39:22 PM EDT 


Maybe all of Abu's conversations with Rove 



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were held via Blackberry on the gwb43.com email server, and that's why he can't recall 

any of them. 



Karl uses telepathy (crackberry) (1+ / 0-) 

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We need to runa data recovery program on Abu's memory banks 




04/19/2007 02:07 PM 

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During Lunch Break 

Gonzo will be changing his Pampers. 




"He seems far less qualified 

than the US Attorneys he fired!" 

two snaps with a twist!!! 

not sure who said it--sounds like Schumer... 





? 

At what point do we hang Gonzo around Bush's neck 




Yes, I hope he stays on so this can expose... 



Shumer: Sampson/Gonzo are like Abbot&Costello!!! 



Who's on first?! n/t 



I Don't Know 

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Rove and Bush to the American people. If he resigns, that becomes the story and it will 

be harder to keep digging. 

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I don't recall. n/t (1+ / 0-) 




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schumer said 

Sorry, "I don't recall" didn't make the team! 



that AG seems less qualified than the people he has fired! 

when you go back and read the transcript, there are so many contradictions...like Abbot 

and Costello. 

we still don't know who made the intial complaints, who decided...when you hear the 

AG, its ex post facto. 



shumer 

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they are trying to patch their reasons together 

what can congress do? with admin in bunker the way they are, bush will have to work 

with the congress, repubs in dissent, there's only one member who defended him, 

hatch. even kyle sampson admitted mistake, such stubborness such a lack of 

understanding, it will hurt the admin, they don't give a hoot about anyone outside the 

white house. 



They don't give a "hoot" 

...about anybody outside this administration. 

Schumer 

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(4+ / 0-) 

Ha ha! You could hear the "fuck" in there. 


by The Raven on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:42:58 PM EDT 


I'm a big fan of anybody using 'Hoot' n/t 





Anyone keeping c-span 3 on (3+ / 0-) 

I swear to god, Specter in response to a reporters question when stating, someone 

keeping track of the amount of times he said "I don't recall" was 55 times. I think 

Specter answered.."well that's an improvement" Did anyone else hear this. 

Leahy saying he wasn't satified with the answers. 

Schumer now talking about contradictions. Schumer saying Abu performed poorly, has 

no trust of the American people and not sure why WH wants to keep him. Says people 

watching think AG not qualified, less qualified than USA's he fired. Schumer says 2 

questions. one about AG qualified to serve, the other about what to do about fired 


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USA's and what Congress should do about that. Says still don't know who put names on 

list, who stayed on list or came off, everything is ex post facto reasons. What can 

congress do if don't think he should stay as AG? Thinks WH will have to something 

(didn't say impeach). Said this will continue to hurt the administratino if AG stays...and 

if he stays that would say the WH doesn't give a Hoot about what American people 

think. 

Well that's all for now. 



Yes, see echo above!!! n/t 



Schumer: to reporters - highlights. 

AG seems less qualified to be AG than the USA's that he's fired. 

There are so many contradictions.Kyle Sampson said he was the one who decided who 

should be fired. We have sort of an Abbott and Costello. 

They didn't have good reasons. It's ex post facto. 

Even this administration as much in the bunker as they are, congressional and senate 

opinion do matter to them. Dems in the majority. and dissension on the Republican 

side. Only Hatch fully defended AG. 

Even Sampson said maybe firing Iglesias was a mistake. shows AG's stubborness. 

They don't give a hoot about anyone outside the WH. IN Reagan's adm and Bush I's 

admin, doesn't think that there'd by any question after today about whether AG is the 

AG. And that's the difference. 



Gonzales & Sampson? (1+ / 0-) 

. . . or is this Gonzales: 

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"Rick! You've got to do something! You've got to hide me! Riiiiiiick!" 

BenGoshi 

____________________________________________________ 




Note: only posted pics aft thread played-out. nt 




Schumer answering questions 

in press gaggle. 

"So many contradictions in the testimony." 

"Doesn't see how he can continue as AG." 

"He seems more poorly qualified than the attorneys who were fired." 

"Growing sentiment on both sides of the aisle that he should go . . . " (paraphrase) 

"We still have to follow up on what happens to these attorneys." 

"They didn't have any reasons and now they're trying to patch things together." 

"Even this Administration--as much in the bunker as they are--they do care about 

public opinion." 

"Maybe there was only one member on the other side of the aisle who . . . believed in 

him." (Hmmm ---any guesses????) 

"They don't give a hoot about anyone outside the WH." 

"I would guess that in R. Reagan's Administration or the first G. Bush's Adm., there 

would be no question that he would no longer be AG." 

You go, Chuck! 




No need to guess who it was 



Where is it covered? (1+ / 0-) 

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Schumer specifically said that Hatch was the only one defending AG. 

CNN's hot on Mary Winkler and MSNBC is still promoting Cho's PR films. 


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lunch. 

This was just after the hearings broke for 

It wasn't an "official gaggle"--just "overheard by the mikes on C-Span 3. Being nosy, I 

listened. 

It was great! 




asdf 

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Cho's PR films 

Thank you for that - says it all. 

"When does the greed stop?" - Sen. Edward Kennedy 

by Cory Bantic on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:34:07 PM EDT 


Schumer's opening statement... 

by Ladyhawk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:08:54 PM EDT 


If you are in the Western Mass... 

by demswin06 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:43:08 PM EDT 


sickening, isnt it... (1+ / 0-) 

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Senator Schumer is on a roll. I just loved his opening statement. It was awesome. I 

think it really set the stage for what was to follow. I thought his questioning of the AG 

was great and I also enjoyed his responses to questions from the media. I am 

anxiously awaiting the afternoon testimony. 

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and Northern Connecticut area,you can hear the hearing live on WNNZ AM 640 radio. 

They just recently (April 2) went from FOX sports to NPR. 

As usual,our so-called news media has dropped the ball again. IF VT wasn't in the 

news,I wonder what excuse they would have used NOT to cover these hearings. Rest 

assured,if this was Janet Reno in the hot seat,Suzanne,Natalie,and the whole FAUX 

news crowd would have been glued to these hearings,but since the MSM is beholden to 

kissing Bush's ass:silence. 

but rest assured, we will get to see another gazillion playbacks of the shooter video.... 

Politics is like driving...if you want to go backwards, choose R. If you want to move 

forward, choose D. 

by fireflynw on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:09:26 PM EDT 



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The senator democratic talking to the press 

"Look, even this admin as much as in the bunker they are, he's going to have to learn 

to work w/ the democrats ... look theres only one person on the other side of the aisle 

that supports gonzales 

(talks about all the contradictions in Kyle sampson's testimony compared to Gonzale's) 

i think it will hurt the admin no matter who is in the DOJ it says they don't give a hoot 

about anybody outside of the white house" 

I only have the audio on so I think this was Schumer 




A BIG THANK YOU 




Is Gonzales protected under ADA? 

"we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or 

unsought, by the military-industrial complex" Dwight D. Eisenhower 

by bobdevo on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:45:49 PM EDT 


he took no notes? 

Mother Nature bats last. 

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TO ALL THE LIVE BLOGGING VOLUNTEERS 

The guy clearly has some serious memory-related health issues go'ng on - he doesn't 

remember what was discussed at ANY fucking meeting he ever attended - even though 

his schedule confirms his attendance. 

Some form of aphasia? Early onset Alzheimers? (Reagan served 8 cluesless years, after 

all. 

While the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) bars discrimination in the workplace on 

the basis of disability, research suggests that although mental illness can lower 

productivity at work, treatment may enhance productivity, reducing the workplace costs 

associated with mental illness, in recent years considerable attention has been given to 

providing work skills to individuals with serious mental illness; such individuals 

constitute a group that has had great difficulty finding meaningful employment. Of 

particular interest is the success of supported employment in enabling people with 

mental illness to gain competitive employment. 

So does that mean we can't fire Gonzales because he's in a protected class?? 

by pigpaste on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:50:15 PM EDT 


They've said (0 / 0) 

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he wrote his notes up as e-mails to himself that have been lost? 

They've tried to say that they made firing and retention decisions based on marital 

status and National Guard service. They don't give a hoot about 'protected class'. 


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by Nina Katarina on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:56:53 PM EDT 


c-span3 



Had to miss the 1st round... 

I hated george bush before it was cool. 

by dehrha02 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:47:45 PM EDT 


Here Is What I Want To Know 




MSOC? n/t 





cindy 

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replaying hearing from the beginning during hour break. 

....but reading Gonzo's pleading the pooe man's 5th. 

Did he really have to practice 5 hours a day to say "I don't know" over and over. 

At the end of the session before lunch break the gallery started yelling Liar Liar!!! - 

LOL 

The most vocal was a woman. Now how in the heck they they let a Kossak in there? 

So my question is which female Kossak do you think it was? 

My guess - always vocal here - McJoan. 

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Yep (0 / 0) 

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from what I hear Cindy Sheehan is there. 

Definitely a possibility. And she is a Kossak too! 





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I love Leahy 

just sayin... 



THANK YOU BLOGGERS 

by chicago minx on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:56:45 PM EDT 


Can't members of the Senate..... 


by pharoah on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:58:15 PM EDT 


Orrin Hatch stands out .... 

by Ladyhawk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:00:35 PM EDT 


Any summary or commentary from you 

by chicago minx on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:04:10 PM EDT 


9 (0 / 0) 

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His opening statement is great, again 

This is oversight now, we need the facts and we will pursue the facts. He's mentioning 

torture, gonzo can't escape culpability. 

We need to take a step towards restoring this trust. 

Spector is up. This about whether Gonze can continue as AG. We are mindful of his 

dear little past, oh he's a role model. Great role model. You come to this hearing with a 

heavy burder of proof 

reestablish your credibility 

talk about the us attorneys 

show you have the leadership to continue 

for those of us at work you are a lifeline. 

refuse to accept the answer "I dont recall." Cant Senators just demand that witnesses 

answer either yes or no? 

This has been an amazing morning of testimony from the AG. What is so fascinating 

(but not unexpected) is how Orrin Hatch stands out from the crowd with his 

softball/leading questions. He just doesn't see anything wrong with anything the AG 

has done. 

Surprisingly, there have been some tough questions from many of the Republicans. I 

thought Arlen Specter was spot on. You can't say it's just the Democrats that have 

issues with the AG's testimony and credibility. 

bloggers now would be appreciated. 

Shayera has posted blog 9 

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Alberto Gabriel 

"...." -- Harpo Marx 

by BobzCat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:07:12 PM EDT 


Isn't that interesting 

"...." -- Harpo Marx 

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Learned something new there. 

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by BobzCat on Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 01:09:17 PM EDT 


So, will Gonzo keep his job? (0 / 0) 

Maybe this is a dumb question, but is it possible Gonzo will remain AG until Jan. 2009? 

I mean, Bush isn't required to fire him. America will hobble its way to the finish line on 

Jan. 20, 2009. 


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