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Mm i j if : thePaii Interview with Vince Lee by Kim MacQuarrie Vincent Lee is a 50-year-old <strong>American</strong> architect whose pioneering work in Peru's lost Inca jungle capital—Vilcabamba—has carried on the discoveries of Hiram Bingham and Gene Savoy. Lee recently emerged from the jungle and published Chanasuyo. In this interview, he tells about his unusual meeting with Gene Savoy, the discoverer of Vilcabamba, and of his recent discovery of a sun temple in the jungle mists, which was known to Savoy but never found. MBMB KM: How did you get started in searching for jungle ruins? VL: Well, for many years I ran a guide service in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and have done a lot of climbing—mostly in the western United States and Canada, but in <strong>South</strong> America and Europe as well. Also I read Savoy's Antisuyo, in which he describes this mysterious mountain shaped like a huge human head in the Vilcabamba jungle of Peru. I went there with two friends in 1982. Amazingly, I found the mountain and climbed it. On the way in and the way out, I said, "My God, look at this place—it's littered with ruins!" KM: Then what? VL: So when I came home, I wanted to read up on the Vilcabamba and realized there was nothing to read. That had been my first trip to Peru. So I said, "Well, I'm going to go back in 1984 and map all those ruins." So I did. We made maps at Rosas Patas, Espiritu Pampa and went up to a place called Puncuyoc, which the locals sort of knew about, although no one had ever been there. Gene Savoy had told me that he had heard of a ruin up in the Puncuyoc range above Yupanca—a ruin two stories high and so forth—although he had never been there himself. Before I went to look for it, Savoy told me that he wished he'd gone there himself. KM: In the beginning of your book, Sixpac Manco, you talk about the difficulty of getting a hold of Savoy—you wrote letters to him, right? VL: Yes, I did, and I never got an answer. Savoy's a little like that. Do you know him at all? He's an interesting guy... he's established his own church, so that tells you a little bit about him. But he's been to a lot of places and done a lot of things. Anyhow, before I went to Vilcabamba, I tried to contact him because he had written Antisuyo. I had no success, but I went anyway. But when I returned from my first trip in 1982,1 said, "I'm going to Reno and find the guy. If he won't answer my letters, I'll just SOUTH AMERICAN EXPLORER 23
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