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from Columbia. They offered me a fellowship which covered tuition plus a living stipend<br />

<strong>and</strong> was, not surprisingly, federally-funded to train <strong>for</strong>eign area experts, particularly on<br />

communist countries. By that time, I had started focusing on Eastern Europe as an area of<br />

interest, <strong>and</strong> Columbia had a very good program <strong>and</strong> reputation in this field. In addition,<br />

it offered the attraction of being in New York City, which was very much the “Big<br />

Apple” <strong>and</strong> place to be at the time. So I was very happy to be going there.<br />

Q: You were at Columbia from 1967 until when?<br />

PERINA: I was enrolled at Columbia from 1967 until I finished my Ph.D. dissertation in<br />

1977 during my first tour in Ottawa, Canada. Also, from 1970 to 1972 I lived overseas, in<br />

Munich, Germany, doing the research <strong>for</strong> my dissertation. I received what was called a<br />

Foreign Area Fellowship to do this research, primarily at the library of Radio Free<br />

Europe in Munich. My dissertation topic was very contemporary history. It was a history<br />

of political dissent among Czechoslovak intellectuals from 1950 to 1969, that is from the<br />

Stalinist years through the Prague Spring.<br />

Q: Can you elaborate?<br />

PERINA: Well more specifically my dissertation was the history of this newspaper called<br />

Literarni noviny, which was the Czech equivalent of the Literaturnaya gazeta in Moscow.<br />

It was the most prominent newspaper of writers <strong>and</strong> intellectuals. It was founded in 1952,<br />

in the Stalinist period, <strong>and</strong> remained the most prominent voice of intellectuals through the<br />

1968 Prague Spring until 1969, when it was shut down by the government. The topic was<br />

interesting because I could chart the evolution of the newspaper from Stalinism until the<br />

Prague Spring, when it was one of the major proponents of re<strong>for</strong>m. I got into this topic<br />

partly because during my first year at Columbia, during the Prague Spring, someone<br />

called the University <strong>and</strong> asked if there were any experts on Czechoslovakia who could<br />

serve as consultants on a documentary film being planned. The call was passed on to me<br />

<strong>and</strong> I followed up on it. It came from a small, private film company called Saturday<br />

House Incorporated that wanted to break into independent production of documentaries. I<br />

later learned that the whole company was sort of a tax write-off <strong>for</strong> a very wealthy New<br />

York convertible bond financier who had always wanted to be a film producer.<br />

Q: This was while The Prague Spring was going on?<br />

PERINA: Yes, this was in April 1968 when the Prague Spring was beginning to be in the<br />

U.S. news. To make a long story short, I met with the company President, <strong>and</strong> he offered<br />

me the job of going to Czechoslovakia with him <strong>and</strong> the film crew as a consultant <strong>and</strong><br />

interpreter. We spent about six weeks during April <strong>and</strong> May doing something like 60<br />

hours of interviews with politicians, academics, dissidents, people on the street, anyone<br />

who would speak with us. Among those whom we interviewed was the young Vaclav<br />

Havel who was then a dissident writer but destined, as you know, to become President<br />

some three decades later. We didn't interview Dubcek but we got film footage of him,<br />

<strong>and</strong> we interviewed the Foreign Minister Jiri Hajek, the economic minister Ota Sik, <strong>and</strong><br />

many others involved in the re<strong>for</strong>m movement. All of the footage, I think, comprised the<br />

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