Dr Bill Deagle: Telephone interview transcript, - Project Camelot

Dr Bill Deagle: Telephone interview transcript
29 april 2009
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Kerry Cassidy (KC): Hi, this is Kerry Cassidy and Bill
Ryan from Project Camelot. It's April 29th, a Wednesday,
and we're here with Dr. Bill Deagle.
We're very happy to be talking to you Bill. We are trying
to get an update on what‟s going on with the virus. I don‟t
know if it‟s really officially a pandemic. Maybe you can
explain that to us; when something becomes a pandemic
versus just some kind of virus going around.
Bill Deagle (BD): Yes, If you actually stick to the six
phases of the World Health Organization Categorization,
it‟s actually in Phase Five of a pandemic right now. Phase
Six is the out-of-control, top level of it. And that‟s by
definition. It means it‟s rapidly spreading to other
continents, it‟s having close-to-close human-to-human
contact and it is causing deaths. Now there‟s probably
more than one strain circulating.
One of the concerns that I have is that this virus... I
agree with Dr. Len Horowitz (I just saw his video clip
today). All the evidence indicates that it was a CDC World
Health Organization virus. They were working with a
company called Novavax, but there's actually six
companies making these vaccines, including Sanofi
Pasteur, that has 382 million doses of a dual RNA biphasic
vaccine.
The RNA vaccine where they‟ve given the first phase, as
long ago as three or four months ago, to our troops. And
they‟ve already announced earlier this year that they are
going to give it to all the county sheriffs and their
families. And the second phase, when they “have an
antigenically more accurate second phase vaccine.”
KC: I‟m sorry, I‟m not understanding you. Are you saying
that this virus is part of something that has been given to
our troops as a vaccine?
BD: Well, no. It‟s a separate thing. The one given to our
troops is a first phase, called an RNA vaccine, by Sanofi
Pasteur. What Dr. Horowitz is showing in his video clip
(which you may want to talk to him) -- and I agree it‟s
the CDC World Health Organization -- there‟s direct
complicity with them and British recombinant viral
biologists that‟ve actually worked on this project, and he
has all the connecting dots.
It fits in with the documentation which I received from
scientists and doctors in March of 1997 that was
smuggled out of the Basel Headquarters of the World
Health Organization. They were going to resurrect with
gene fragments the 1918 swine human flu recombinant,
and then convert it with some Avian genes, put it into
Asia and then later release a bridge virus, which is what
this virus is.
There are two strains in Mexico City. One that‟s making
people very sick and the other one that‟s actually killing
people. So, we won‟t know for a couple of weeks, but if it
starts to show selective deaths of only Hispanic people in
America, then we know -- like AIDS, which is 16 times
more likely to kill blacks than to kill whites -- that it is a
race specific bioweapon.
There are six companies producing vaccine for the World
Health Organization and the international community.
Pfizer Pharmaceutical, Sanofi Pasteur, Baxter Laboratories
that actually had this accident in 18 different labs in four
countries, and shut down the biotest lab in the Czech
Republic. Their phone is off the hook. Nobody‟s answering
the phone. We‟ve been having our people -- Alexander
Jones, an NIH whistleblower -- calling them daily and they
are now not only not returning calls, either Baxter or
Biotest in the Czech Republic, their phone is disconnected.
But the Sanofi was the one where the U.S. government
contracted for 382 million plus doses of this binary
vaccine. Their branch plant in Beijing shipped it four-anda-half
to five months ago, and it is now shipped to major
military U.S. bases. They‟ve already been administering it
for the past four months to our troops; the first phase of
this binary vaccine. And they say the second phase will be
“antigenically more accurate” for the “Avian Flu.” It‟s an
Avian flu vaccine. Research about it...
KC: But you can‟t vaccinate against it; is my
understanding.
BD: Right, but what they‟re doing is they‟re saying
they‟re doing it. And they‟ve given an RNA vaccine they
say will prime them so they will have an immune
response within a week rather than two to three weeks.
This latest thing that Novavax is working on is a similar
virus in which they actually recombined the H1N1 swine
flu from 1918, that was resurrected by Dr. Taugenberger
-- [ed. note: Dr. Jeffery Taugenberger] -- at the CDC,
with the H5N1 lethal strains and human viruses, and they
actually created vaccines which they were playing around
with. Novavax, and what Dr. Horowitz has stated and it‟s
probably correct, is that this company‟s virus is virtually
identical to the one which has been released in Mexico
City.
So they probably sprayed it over Mexico City because
when you have a weakened population with a lot of
biotoxins in the environment it makes it easier for them
to become ill. So, yeah, this is absolutely manmade. I
don‟t call it a swine flu because it‟s not. With swine flu 20
percent of all veterinarians in Ohio, according to research,
are positive for antibodies to swine virus and they don‟t
get sick or die.
KC: I‟m sorry, I really have to get back to the troops.
What is it they‟re giving our troops and what is going to
be the result of what they‟re giving our troops?
BD: What they‟re doing is inserting what‟s called H5N1
RNA. In other words, they‟re inserting some RNA which
actually stays in their body and modifies the genetics of
the troops so that their immune systems will respond
more quickly when they give them the second phase of
this vaccine that is called a binary or second phase
vaccine.
KC: When you say: their immune systems will respond
more quickly, you‟re saying that...
BD: That‟s their theory. That‟s what they‟re saying.
KC: ...in theory, they will fight off the disease faster?
BD: That‟s what they are saying.
KC: Because there is no real reason, in my mind, why
they would want our troops to die of a virus.
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BD: Well, I would think that there is actually a very good
reason they would want our troops to die.
KC: Okay. Other than in battle? Because this is what they
use them for.
BD: No. They want our troops to die so they can bring in
foreign troops on American soil because they will shoot at
American citizens and disarm them. American troops
won‟t. That‟s already been established. So they want our
troops sick and they want our troops dead.
KC: Okay, that‟s quite a statement.
BD: Yeah, it is. It‟s true. I have that from inside sources,
too, and they‟re very concerned inside the military. The
county sheriffs were announced -- we had whistleblowers
from several states including Arizona and Arkansas, and
other states that we had -- that they were... Also, the
Department of Homeland Security, as well as the state
health departments in states across the United States,
have been planning to vaccine all the county sheriffs and
their families with the same vaccine. But, as far as I
know, I haven‟t had my whistleblowers tell me they‟ve
actually done it yet.
KC: Okay. Again, why would they vaccinate? If you say
the vaccine is actually preparing them... I‟m getting the
impression that you‟re telling us that it‟s preparing them
for the next wave of this virus.
BD: Well, the one that they„re...
KC: It‟s not going to protect them; it is going to kill
them. So again, why would they want to kill...
BD: We don‟t know. All we know is, number one: it may
give them a false sense of protection, at the very least.
Number two: this is totally experimental. There‟s no
research to show that you can make a binary vaccine and
you can prime someone with this RNA so that when they
get a second phase that‟s antigenically correct... The
thing is, the virus is going to come up with multiple substrains,
and it‟s extremely unlikely that they can create
one quick enough. The fastest you can use it, if you use
cell culture, is probably 60 days minimum. If you use cell
culture and egg membrane, you can use 6 months, at
least.
And the virus changes so quickly that it wouldn‟t be
genetically correct, and number two, I don‟t believe the
vaccines work anyway. In fact, the research has shown
that whose who received the vaccine to the swine virus in
1918 were the ones that died. They depress Sermion
[sp?] systems; they increase the risk of new
recombinants forming.
Like they were giving the swine vaccine in Mexico City
until the weekend when the WHO finally reported -- after
me and many others were saying they shouldn‟t be
vaccinating -- they actually discontinued the program. But
that would actually insert new DNA, new viral material so
you could actually form recombinants, or new viruses,
that would swap DNA and create new viral strains that
could be more lethal and spread more quickly.
In Mexico City and other areas, and by the way this is
spreading very rapidly. It is almost certain there's a strain
that causes a bad flu and there is a strain that causes a
bad flu that kills. It causes a cytokine storm.
KC: But my understanding is that people in the U.S. are
not dying from this.
BD: Right. My guess is the strain that got into the U.S. is
a very bad flu but it is not the strain yet. But the fact is...
Here‟s what happened: in H5N1 -- and I had the
documents 12 years ago -- the primary reason, the
number one reason when I started radio broadcasting
fulltime four years ago plus was to warn people of this
because I had the documents; I was given the
information to warn people that this is coming.
This is one of the primary vehicles that the globalists want
to use to quell any resistance to the new financial order
that‟s coming; to quell resistance to revolution in Mexico
and the United States when the economy collapses and
they switch to a new financial order worldwide.
They are bringing in a Hate Crimes Bill today: HR1913.
This is the 29th, which is to be voted on, and it is the
most noxious hate-crime bill which will affect everyone of
every group, either skin color, or religion or lack of
religion or whatever. It‟ll affect everybody. This will allow
them to have totalitarian control and selective prosecution
of anyone who speaks of against any issue that they don‟t
like you to talk about.
Bill Ryan (BR): Hello, Dr. Bill, it is good to be talking to
you.
BD: Yeah, it is good to talk to you again, Bill.
BR: You‟re in the excellent position to understand the
controller‟s thinking. If you were one of their strategists,
what do you think their strategic plan is, of which this
may be a very early stage.
BD: What they have done is release a bridge virus. [he
spells] b-r-i-d-g-e. This bridges and spreads very quickly
between humans. The earlier strain that‟s in the United
States is a bad flu but it isn‟t lethal. The second strain
which is in Mexico City is killing people at a relatively
rapid rate; we‟re going to guess somewhere at around
eight to ten percent case fatality rate, which is pretty
high, to go four times higher than the 1918 swine flu
pandemic, which is a swine-human recombinant.
I went over the DNA letters 3 years ago with Henry L.
Niman, head of Recombinomics, that has more patents
than any other Ph.D. virologist in history on
recombination, which is how viruses change; they swap
DNA. I think they have already pulled the trigger. The
hammer has fallen and it will come in waves that could
occur over months, or years, or even more than a
decade.
So if we get over this, as Napolitano has stated as the
Head of Homeland Security, former governor of Arizona,
we are almost certainly looking at a wave. Whether it‟s
six weeks or three months or six months, that is going to
have a much higher case fatality rate and it‟s shown
already that they‟re doing nothing and plan to do nothing
to stop the virus from moving.
Now they could do things like having an antiviral hepa
filter in every aircraft, tracking every person that flies or
crosses a border for at least ten to twelve days; making
sure they don‟t have symptoms, tracking all their
contacts. They could give everybody antipathogenics,
actually build their immune system like Super Silver or
NutriDine and the element allicin, which if you just take a
little bit of it, it prevents you from getting a primary
infection.
They could issue true nanoparticle masks -- and the best
is the Nano Mask -- or a NIOSH N100 mask, and if you
are in an area you probably also need an eye shield
because you can get it sprayed in your eyes. If you use
natural good hygiene practices, really, you could stop this
cold.
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The fact is the government is doing nothing to stop it.
They are not doing anything to stop commerce or truckers
coming in from Mexico or airline flights. They are not
doing anything to track anybody. I brought these issues
up in 2002 with the FBI and the CDC director for
bioterrorism, along with Dr. Jay Reddington, Infectious
Disease Director at the University of Colorado, because I
was the point man under Dr. John Hughes of Rocky
Mountain OccMed. We worked on Operation TOPOFF and
Dark Winter in the late ‟90s doing bioweapons war
simulations.
The fact is the government is doing everything to make
sure that if this does acquire new genetics and new substrains
emergent that enter the United States and other
countries, they‟re going to declare martial law. They have
now -- and I have this from my military contacts, trained
over 50,000 returning U.S. troops -- there are special
crack troops now upgraded to handle, in these new
Chem-Bio suits, the administration of drugs and/or
vaccines at gunpoint. And also civil detention camps are
now being set up as quarantine camps all across the
United States.
As of two weeks ago they had 50,000 already trained and
ready to roll. This is before this, what I call the lab flu,
North American lab flu. I‟m not going to call this swine flu
because there are genes from the Avian flu; the new
Avian flu. It has genes from Swine, from Human and
Asian flu; genes from three continents, so this is not...
It‟s coming from the wrong place; it always emerges from
Asia.
So this is a laboratory flu that almost certainly was
released in Mexico City on purpose. The virus is basically
going to acquire new genetics. It also grows well in birds
and animals, like pigs and probably cattle. It‟s going to
allow the jumping of those Avian genes, H5N1, that are
killing millions of birds on every continent.
I have reports from game wardens in British Columbia,
Washington state and Oregon, and other places across
the US and Canada that millions of birds are dying; like
the Shearwater Gulls are dying. The Canadian geese are
returning and their chicks are dying of this strange virus,
which we are pretty certain is the H5N1 Avian flu, so
there is already a pandemic among birds. But until a few
months ago it couldn‟t grow in less than 106 degrees
[Fahrenheit] because of the PB2 gene.
Well, in the wild, we discovered that the PB2 gene change
is present in some places in Asia. But the PB2 gene
change is already in the H1N1 virus. This new lab virus
has that PB2 that allows it to grow in human nasal
mucous areas, and it also has a full receptor binding
domain so that it can attach to human cells very
efficiently. And if it acquires the H gene, which is the 6
polybasic amino acids, it can grow on brain and other
tissues.
The other changes, including the deletion on the NS1, is
going to allow it to completely bypass the immune
system. So it‟s going to be able to transfer the lethality
from the H5N1, that is already killing millions of birds,
into humans and possibly other animals, etcetera.
So that‟s going to come in waves. It could occur over a
period of two months or even one wave after another. In
1918 the first wave was relatively mild flu that killed very
few people. It was more like a serious typical flu. And
when it came back in the late summer and early fall -- the
second wave -- it started killing people very, very
seriously with a case fatality rate between two-and-a-half
to five percent.
We don‟t have all the statistics in now but we are
guessing that the current case fatality for the more lethal
strain in Mexico is probably around ten percent, which is
pretty high. My guess is that, as it acquires new genes,
that case fatality rate will rise up toward 20 to 30 percent.
The biggest danger is that, because of fear,
transportation, travel, and infrastructure -- including
distribution of food and goods -- will stop or shut down
significantly. That‟s where the government will declare
martial law and close the borders, and try to control
transportation, so food and other materials are still being
shipped to the big cities. Otherwise, the chaos will
actually cause more problems. In fact, we did a computer
simulation in Denver back in the ‟90s and we estimated if
there was a total shutdown of infrastructure caused by
the fear of a pandemic it would kill more people than the
actual virus.
BR: In a sense, Dr. Bill, it doesn‟t really matter what the
lethality is, or even if there really is an outbreak at all, if
enough people believe there is and the media is used in
the way that we know that it can be used.
BD: Yes.
BR: Actually, that‟s all they need to do.
KC: Then what we‟re talking about here is people
actually staying in observer mode and taking a step back.
What I understand is: normal flu kills 30,000 to 50,000
people a year in the United States.
BD: That statistic is actually one that they always throw
out and it is actually based on an estimate. It‟s not a real
number and it is not based on actual facts. The flu itself,
basically, unless you‟re in a debilitated state, usually
doesn‟t cause a problem. The difference with the 1918 flu
is that it strikes the young and healthy because it
bypasses the body‟s immune system until it overwhelms
the body. You can incubate it for 8 days and people don‟t
even know. You‟re not even sneezing or coughing, but
you‟re touching your face or other body parts and passing
it to other people. [Then you can] spike a fever and have
a seizure and in 45 minutes be dead.
KC: Okay, I understand this. You‟re a doctor, Dr. Bill. If
we could talk about how they can prevent this?
BD: Well the first thing they need to think of is, number
one, this is just a bug. Like any bug. In fact, it‟s probably
no more transmissible than the regular flu. The First Line
Of Defense Kit I put together has the Nutridefense which
blocks the virus that attaches to the cells with a special
magnesium salt of ECGC catagens, and it has monolauren
that blocks viruses so that they cannot replicate.
The Nutrimmune boosts the natural killer cells to fight all
pathogens. It has the Defense Wipes. It has monolauren
and lauric acid and nisin to shift all viruses and all
bacterial cell walls, but it is totally biodegradable so it
won‟t destroy the environment. And we have the
NanoMasks; and we have a good supply of those at the
moment although it is going quickly.
The reason I mention this is that people can try to get
other things. If they can‟t get this, they want to get at
least a NIOSH N100 mask. If they use things that are
antibacterial off the shelf of, say Wal-Mart, they‟re not
going to work because they are not anti-viral. They‟re
antibacterials and they are fairly mild, like Purell Soap.
You want to prevent a primary infection so something as
simple as our silver salt, called Super Silver, is the only
one with a U.S. patent. The government and homeland
security, for the past four years, have been buying
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literally container loads of this. And the reason is they
know this works because we have tested it in labs in
Brazil and overseas, and in the United States. It will kill a
high pathogen like Avian flu. We‟ve done actual tests in
lab animals.
We know it will prevent primary infection, so as simple as
a teaspoon three times a day of the Super Silver will do
that. It is the same with our medical grade allicin and our
very unique NutriDine. Other things people take, like they
say: Well I’m going to take Oregano, or I’m going to...
Those will help a little but there is no evidence that they
are anywhere near in the class of the things that we‟re
talking about.
You do not want to get a primary infection. If you get a
primary infection with these organisms it‟s very, very
dangerous because it is one of the higher pathogenic
strains. There is no warning before you are going to hit a
crisis, say a week or ten days after you get infected.
KC: Okay, my understanding is that colloidal silver is not
the same thing as the type of silver you are supposed to
be using.
BC: Well, colloidal... Yeah, this is a hundred times
stronger. Colloidal silver is a large particle and different
sized particles. The Super Silver is a silver salt so it
doesn‟t bio-accumulate in the body. It is a uniform
particle size which is tuned to a scalar frequency like
Tesla to 910 terahertz, so it shatters the bonds of all
pathogens. It has a tetra silver oxygen wrap on the
molecule so that it actually creates a scalar signal. It has
a capacity to penetrate through biofilms so it can kill at a
distance. It doesn‟t even need to get in direct contact with
the pathogens.
So it‟s very unique. It has three patents on the
technology that no other silver, including OxySilver, Mild
Silver Protein, any other silver in the world. Now I had Dr.
Gordon Peterson on, he‟s work with the Homeland
Security on a program called AeroClave, and they
haven‟t... I haven‟t talked to him in about a month and a
half.
I don‟t know if they signed a contract but he has actually
worked with Homeland Security. AeroClave will clear any
international aircraft, like a Boeing 767, in 45 seconds of
all pathogens, resistant TB, viruses, bacteria, by putting
an aerosol into the aircraft and quickly vacuuming it out
of the aircraft. It will kill all pathogens in 45 seconds.
KC: Okay, do they use it?
BD: They can‟t. I don‟t know if they have. He has already
done presentations with them. An independent company
that he worked with developed it for the airline industry
and the government. This is the only silver that has been
tested to do this. No other one. The government has the
information; they have the research and we have the
tests.
Now if people were to get one thing that‟s compact and
easy to carry, the one I would recommend is our
NutriDine which is diatomic. It‟s very unique. It is a
formula that was conceived and prophesied by Edgar
Cayce.
So we have the NutriDine. It will quell all known
pathogens. We have a clinic in India that is using this for
the Untouchables that can‟t get any healthcare there, and
we‟re using it to put AIDS into remission and to treat
topical and internal cancers. It‟ll kill all known pathogens
and parasites. The NutriDine is so powerful that as little
as ten drops, three times a day, will kill all known
pathogens; taken orally.
KC: Are you familiar with MMS? [ed. note: Miracle
Mineral Supplement]
BD: MMS is a chlorine dioxide and it has been used for
many years to kill pathogens. The problem is: any
chlorinated molecule will attach to amide groups of
amino acids so as well as an antipathogenic it also
displaces iodine from the mitochondria so can cause
problems with toxicity, so I wouldn‟t recommend MMS.
It will clear pathogens, just like antibiotics will. I think it's
a very good antipathogenic but it has toxicity because it‟s
going to attach to... it’s going to release chlorine.
CENTRAL QUESTION : IS THIS RIGHT / WRONG ?
Chlorine will attach to amide groups of amino acids and
other molecules. It will form chloramines and therefore I
believe it has toxicity. There is no need for that. The only
safe halide is iodine in the body.
Any other halide, which includes fluoride, bromide or
chloride, or chlorine molecules, have toxicity.
BR: I had the pleasure of meeting personally with Jim
Humble a few months ago, and he‟s the first to admit that
he‟s not a microbiologist or a medical doctor. If one was
pretty seriously sick, MMS might not be a bad option.
BD: If you can only mix this together and that is the only
thing you have, absolutely, use it. For example, I am
shipping at my own expense to some of these other
companies, to our missionaries overseas, case lots of
NutriDine. I‟m doing that at my own expense so that they
have it. They already have cases. We‟re able to cure
intracerebral malaria, parasites, worms; we kill
everything.
It sterilizes the water. So I would say, yeah, if you have
no choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a
choice... because if you do it for any length of time,
you‟re likely to accumulate biotoxins. You know, obviously
if you have a choice between life and death use your
MMS, but if you have alternatives, you would be best to
get the NutriDine first, and then the Super Silver or
Allimed Allicin.
Allimed Allicin is a medical drug administered by doctors
in Europe but I have access to sell it here in North
America without a prescription. This will kill all pathogens.
It‟ll kill Lyme disease, viruses, bacteria. We have proof
that we can even give it to someone that‟s on intravenous
antibiotics that‟s in the ICU [Intensive Care Unit] and it
will save their life. We do that all the time, everyday.
That‟s the way I would approach it is that yes, it will save
lives but it‟s toxic.
BR: OK. That‟s very clear, Bill, thank you very much for
that.
BD: You‟re welcome.
BR: I think a lot of people wouldn‟t disagree with you,
and I think that it‟s one of these things that‟s good for the
occasional emergency, but prolonged use probably is not
the ideal...
BD: Oh yeah. People who take it daily, as a preventive or
for a period of months or years, are going to get
problems. But it‟s the same thing as people drinking
water that‟s heavily chlorinated or with fluoride. You
accumulate fluoride, and it calcifies the choroid plexus
and the ventricles and the pineal gland, and it literally
shuts down the third eye and astral eye so you can‟t see
torsional vortex images, and you can‟t see
transdimensionally.
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So in terms of the spirit, it actually cuts off what is called
the Cord of Living Waters so all halides, other than iodine,
block and attack that part of the brain. It attacks the
connection of the pineal gland in the sense of the Cord of
Living Waters and the higher dimensional reality of what
we are.
Chlorine is toxic. It‟s one of the reasons why they push
chlorination of water, and fluoridation... [it‟s] why they
want to push Sulfuryl fluoride. Which, by the way, isn‟t
only even more toxic but it‟s 17,000 times more of a heat
reflective when it gets in the upper atmosphere (and it
doesn‟t degrade) than even carbon dioxide or methane.
BR: My only question now really is: what do you expect
to see this summer in North America?
BD: Well, to be honest with you, we could stop this
pretty quickly if we decided to take decisive action. If, for
example, and I put this list together and we had a
number of conferences with the military and other people
in the last few weeks through Plains Radio. Carmen
Reynolds is a Colonel in the Army.
The issue is this: If we decided to close the borders
immediately; if we decided to screen everybody with a
swab to determine if they carry a virus, and track them if
they show positive for an Influenza A virus -- which you
can do a simple screening test -- you may not get a
subtype but you‟ll see if they are a carrier of the virus. If
we were then to make certain that, in areas where there
are outbreaks like in Mexico City, we would fly in large
heavy-lift aircraft with existing...
Not drugs. We are not talking about TAMIFLU. TAMIFLU
contains hallucinations, which will hallucinate you, and in
some cases some people are so sensitive they actually...
It‟s like taking PCP or Angel dust. It is a very, very
serious bad trip. You don‟t want people walking around
that are, say military service people, with body flak
jackets on and Scott Air Packs under stress taking
TAMIFLU and hallucinating.
When you give these drugs like TAMIFLU; already H1N1
worldwide is resistant to it. Amantadine, Ramitidine, and
TAMIFLU. These current strains they are saying are
sensitive to it, but in within four days of exposing a
population to a continuous virus, you‟ll start seeing
resistance show up. So in other words, if you use it now,
you don‟t have something to use on someone who‟s dying
from a very serious infection. They have got a resistant
strain in their body because two weeks or two months
ago you gave that population TAMIFLU.
What they should be giving are NutriDine, Super Silver or
Allicin. If they simply gave, for example, the average
person... if they took one of our products that is called
Better Than Greens with Allicin. If they simply took 180
mg of allicin, three times a day, they would probably not
get a primary infection.
We have already done a study with ferrets and other
animals in Brazil with high pathogenic Avian flu, and we
transferred the weight on this -- and this is actual studies
done last year -- that one teaspoon of our Super Silver
silver salt for an average 70 kg adult will prevent a
primary infection.
We know the same thing with our troops with our
NutriDefense. I put in the NutriDefense something so that
if they are exposed to anthrax or spores that you cut out
98 percent chance of the possibility of infection by just
taking one NutriDefense per day. 98 percent.
So there‟s extremely simple things like personal hygiene,
travel... If every aircraft had a hepa viral filter; if they
cleared every aircraft with the AeroClave system which
already exists. There is a company where it‟s available
right now. The airlines could gear up literally today to put
it in place. This would die out in a matter of a week or two
and the panic would be over.
If we would fly into countries where there are outbreaks,
like Mexico City, and give these antipathogenics and start
making sure all airliners in different countries use these
technologies, the problem would die out in a month or so.
And we would have some deaths, but we would have it
under control.
What I‟m concerned about is I think their agenda is they
want to have enough crisis as a cover for the new
financial system which they‟re setting up. Because
already there‟s a contraction of the world economy and 40
percent of the world‟s wealth has disappeared. That
disappearance is also [inaudible] by the collapsing...
And this is stated -- and I had Joan Veon on my show just
a few days ago -- that the world financial experts at the
Bank for International Settlements that just met in
Europe is that the current world economy can only
support 5 billion people but there are 6.5 billion plus
people on the Earth, which means 1.5 billion are “excess
population” based on the finances of our current world
economy. They‟ve created this crisis so that people
cannot, with a day‟s work, get a day‟s food. So third
world countries now, with the financial famine; they‟re
compounding it because there‟s climate shift and that
climate shift is going to get considerably worse.
And this is something I want to say prophetically: Starting
this next month, May and going through to July–August,
there‟s going to be a shift in under-oceanic currents in the
Southern hemisphere. The first warning was the explosion
of Tonga that came through the ocean surface with a 7.9
earthquake several weeks ago.
What‟s going to happen is under-oceanic volcanism is
going to change the climate, increase rainfall dramatically
in some areas, in other areas there will be major floods
and in other areas there will be increased and more
serious drought. This, by just climate shift, will cause
more food shortages. Crops will be flooded out because of
the change in world air currents. A normal climate will be
out the window.
So when you combine that with a pandemic... And the
Baltic Dry Index now for shipment of manufactured goods
as well as food is at its lowest since the second world war.
We have a situation where they‟re purposely
compounding it and there could be a very simple solution.
So we need to get these solutions through to The Powers
That Be to say: this could be stopped tomorrow.
We could solve the world‟s financial problems by
correcting and making the Glass-Steagall Act. Like, for
example, the country of Canada was much more
responsible. They didn‟t allow the banking industry to turn
it into a casino. We could make sure that we bring food
into the third world countries because when you have
starvation it increases the weakened immune system to
make viruses more aggressive. So if this virus gets into a
population that is starving, it‟s going to be transformed
into a more aggressive deadly virus for us as well.
And we need to stabilize the world banking system
without taking away the sovereignty of nations or
transferring power to a bunch of international bankers
that are not elected. So everything we‟re doing right now
is actually leading us toward more chaos rather than
order and it could be stopped tomorrow, including
stopping this from turning into a true worldwide pandemic
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where millions or even billions could die, stabilizing our
financial situation, and then dealing with the food supply
by starting to gear-up food production and supporting it
so that there is no farmers or businesses going out of
business.
And we have the proper stabilization of our economy so
the bubble economy, the illegal debt instruments that
they have been circulating, we don‟t poor trillions more
into the banks that are doing this. We put them into the
debt restructuring as Lyndon LaRouche has said, and we
get rid of these debt instruments. We put a moratorium
on foreclosures of businesses and homes, we stabilize the
food supplies of the third world so that they are not priced
out of the staples that keep them alive, and we maintain
control of international travel so that we don‟t allow this
pandemic to shut down the world economy. The chances
that it could shut it down, if we have a major high
pathogenic death rate, is incredibly likely by this fall if we
don‟t do these measures now.
KC: Dr. Bill, thank you for that; that‟s quite an overview.
I have a couple of questions I want to ask you and we can
discuss whether or not you want to go off the record with
the answers or not.
BD: Sure.
KC: First of all, I‟ve had some conversations with Cliff
High, you know who he is?
BD: Yes, Cliff High. I think he is with the Web-Bot
[project] or with Half Past Human. That‟s Half Past
Human, isn‟t it?
KC: Yes, Half Past Human.
BD: Yes.
KC: And, he has said... You know, he actually has quite a
bit of animosity toward you, and he has said that he
thinks that you get a lot of your information from him.
BD: No, I don‟t.
KC: And I find that hard to believe myself, but I wanted
to give you a chance to respond to that here if you want.
BD: I only had one conversation with Cliff and I talked to
him once; called him and just: Hey, I’ve heard you on Jeff
Rense’s program. You said some pretty remarkable things
that match up with what I say. And I want to share with
him not only my first hand information, like this
information I had from the World Health Organization and
other sources that are, if you want to call it “classified” or
the fact that I work with the government, and also the
intuitive side. And he was a little upset about that. He
said: I don’t want to talk to you about it. And I said:
Okay, that’s fine.
And that‟s my only conversation; he seemed very upset
about that. And, I don‟t subscribe to Half Past Human.
The only information I‟ve had is the occasional time I‟ve
been able to listen to him on Coast-to-Coast radio or Jeff
Rense. That‟s it. So, if there‟s something...
KC: Okay, well he has told us that actually you had a
doctor or somebody giving you that information.
BD: No, I don‟t.
KC: Okay.
BD: No I don‟t.
KC: It‟s very strange that when he...
BD: Now, why would he say that?
KC: I don‟t know. I actually don‟t know.
BD: Why would he say that? That‟s kind of strange.
Here‟s the fact, okay? What he‟s doing basically is mining
information from the global subconscious. In a sense
what he‟s doing is; it‟s in a sense, almost like a... the best
way to describe it would be a syntactical and emotive
language global subconscious Ouija board. I guess that
would be the best way. And he can pull up some
information.
There‟s a bow shockwave of reality that bounces back
toward the consciousness so that, in a subconscious way,
people know. For example, people have precognition that
there may be an accident or a relative that is sick or
dying. So he‟s just pulling that information out. There‟s
many intuitives, whether it‟s people like my friend John
Boncore, who is a Mohawk prophet.
There‟s people in all kinds of intuitives and psychics, and
people that use remote viewing that can see events
coming. But as I tell people, they‟re not solids; they‟re
liquids. They‟re not yet frozen. There‟s a degree of choice
and timeline which is why I‟m doing this presentation
right now.
We, as a global consciousness, get to choose which of
those timelines. And my job is to act like the guy at the
side of the road where there is a branch in the road and
there are no road signs. So you ask the guide at the side
of the road: Which road should I go down with my little
cart?
And I‟ll say: Well, you don’t want to go down this road
here because it leads into the bottom of a valley where
there’s a jungle and there’s alligators and wild animals.
But over here, ten miles down the road, there’s a
community of nice people. They’ll feed you, they’ll will
give you good shelter, etcetera.
That‟s what my job is to do. Now, so when I contacted
him I‟m not sure why he got so upset about this. It
completely boggled me because I thought: Well, this is
really good. We‟re having people from various different...
how can I say, mining the information whether they are
psychics or intuitives, or they are doing something like
this, which is looking for a language that‟s embedded into
the internet and using these web-bots to be able to go
search for it. So, I thought it was a good thing. I was
really surprised at his response.
KC: He believes you are an agent.
BD: An agent of what?
KC: That you work for the government?
BD: Oh, come on! That‟s so ridiculous.
KC: Okay. Now, you‟ve worked for the government in the
past though?
BD: No, I was a civilian doctor. I was an occupational
doctor.
KC: But in black projects?
BD: No-no. Let me explain here. Yeah, right. Those kind
of accusations you hear all the time. It‟s ridiculous. Do
they realize the danger -- the physical danger, the career
danger -- that I‟ve gone through in order to tell people
the truth? They have no idea. I‟m like a William Wallace,
okay?
When I worked in occupational medicine back in the early
‟80s, they made a decision in the government that they
no longer wanted to have a lot of jobs done by people
inside the military. Because they either didn‟t have the
expertise, they wanted to hire a company and if they
weren‟t satisfied with the work that was done by that
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company (i.e., medical or contract for specific things), so
they started contracting out; especially during the era of
Bill Clinton.
So what they did, is they contracted for me. And my first
major job for C-Com: to contract C-Com to handle Fort
Carson, NORAD, Falcon Air Force Base, U.S. Space
Strategic Command, the GPS Military-Grade system, and
Directed Energy Weapons. The reason why I was their
doctor was simply because I was their doctor. I took care
of people that worked in these things; worked around
these toxic things, worked around rocket labs, and I was
their physician. They were not permitted, most of these
people, to even talk to their colleagues who were in the
next room, let alone the next building. But they would
talk to their doctor.
And the only difference was with me, is that because I
have a technical background in nuclear physics, advanced
computing, electronics, biotechnology; they would share
with me. And after a while, because I‟m a talker, they
were more interested in what I would have to say about
the bigger picture about what was going on at their
facility, and they were more interested in telling me their
little piece -- that‟s very, very compartmentalized -- than
what I would tell them.
KC: Yes, I've heard you say that.
BD: So that‟s the reason why I have...
KC: I understand that, but I‟m just trying to run these
things by you so that you understand what you‟re up
against out there. There seems to be...
BD: I have people who have written books as long as ten
years ago when I spoke at the Prophecy Club, that
literally -- I can‟t believe this -- but literally have written
a book that I‟m the antichrist. I mean, how foolish! [Kerry
laughs] I mean, every day I put my personal life, my
career, everything on the line to be the whistleblower
for...
In fact, I just did an audio for tenth anniversary of
Columbine. I was the examiner for the Englewood Fire
Department and the first young man shot in Columbine
outside the restaurant there, Mark Taylor. I was the exit
examiner for the 5 Special Op Team of the Oklahoma City
Memorial Building. I have been trying to do radial
toxicology testing on the World Trade Center debris, and
I‟m writing the position paper which I‟m going to present
at We Are Change, New York City, on the eighth
anniversary of 9/11.
I‟ve been told by my radial toxicology colleagues, because
I have advanced training in radial chemistry, that if I
order the tests the Department of Defense and the FBI
will arrest me immediately for requesting the tests of
debris which I have from the World Trade Center. Further
proving that they not only used Thermate and other high
explosives, but they used nuclear bombs in the buildings,
okay?
KC: Okay, you know...
BD: People need to realize that I am a whistleblower
central. That‟s why my Genesis [Communication Network
radio show]... The number one reason, number one, that
I did this is: twelve years ago, when I spoke at Human
Life International in Zurich on the super-soldier program,
which they tried to recruit me to in 1978 at UCLA
VA/Wadsworth Hospital and I turned them down, is
because I have the documents and the proof that they
were trying to create a pandemic flu to bring the world,
and literally we are going to enter the new world order
with a mask. This is their plan. I had the documents 12
years ago.
So four years ago when I started my show it was to warn
the people and tell them to get ready because this could
be stopped very easily. We can decide for a future where
millions do not need to die, and the economy does not
need to shut down, and we don‟t need to have chaos in
our cities.
KC: Okay. You know I appreciate everything that you‟ve
said and I was just trying to give you a chance to respond
publicly to all of that, and if you‟re willing, we‟ll go ahead
and release this part of this.
BD: Yes. Now here‟s the thing that is important, okay?
KC: Yes.
BD: People need two things: They need to use their
intellect... to study. And me, I tell them: Don’t believe,
just read. Okay? Read the stuff that is in the open media
before they hear me or anything that‟s here on Project
Camelot. And then they need to be very quiet and very
humble, and need to pray and say: Now was what Deagle
saying true? Or what Half Past Human is saying true, or
any other person that‟s an intuitive or psychic or a remote
viewer or whatever.
Then they need to follow through with action. Because in
my heart I don‟t want our society to shut down. I don‟t
want people to die. I don‟t want our culture to become a
matrix. I don‟t want horror to happen.
We have a timeline where we are getting closer and
closer to where some of these issues become more
inevitable if we don‟t change our trajectory, if we don‟t
change the way we make choices, not just personally.
And we have to stop this backbiting, this foolishness; and
there‟s a degree of jealousy, too. I mean, to be honest
with you, I‟m a messianic believer, okay? I‟m for all
religions that firstly have spirituality and a connection
with the Creator God and the Universe. All, okay?
But I want people to understand there is no room in our
modern world, whether it‟s Half Past Human or any of the
“Christian, Jewish, or other churches” for a real prophet,
and that‟s what I‟m called to speak as. There‟s no room.
And I can tell you that. They do not want someone to
come in and tell them that I was supernaturally given a
command to go to Zurich, Switzerland and receive these
documents which I didn‟t expect to receive. And then to
have a number of events happen so I would be the
number one whistleblower that the flu pandemic was
coming.
Even inside the truth movement, I‟ve received so much
persecution from even other truthers who believe 9/11
was an inside job. You would not believe it, okay? But I‟m
willing to do the right thing because I have the truth and I
have a concern and care for people.
KC: Okay.
BD: They need to see my heart. And if they are jealous
of that, get over it. I‟m not here to play games or egos;
I‟m here to serve my Creator God and save my fellow
mankind and all living things on this earth from a horrible
end. And that‟s where we are going.
We have to wake up and stop this pandemic, stop the
economic meltdown, stop the State of Israel which is
planning with our help to make a northern attack of
nuclear sites and 1250 targets inside Iran. We already
have a dialogue going on. We need to pray, for example,
for President Obama that he will not serve his globalist
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masters but he will do the right thing so we can stop
Israel.
If any of these one things happen, it‟s a perfect storm
from hell. We are going to face a future that is going to
be so noxious, so dangerous -- people can‟t imagine what
we are facing -- but we can turn away from it. We do not
need to go there.
KC: Thank you, Bill. That‟s very, very, very succinct. I
would like to ask you, regarding the Israel situation, you
say they have targets within Iran. When are you saying
that they are planning to attack Iran?
BD: I don‟t have a prophetic word but I can tell you from
my military, and also classified sources as well, the
Israelis are going to do a full nationwide war game in
June. They‟re also, this year (without a month
designated), doing a U.S. Space Command Anti-Missile
Star Wars Weapon Simulation with the United States and
Israel. They do now have TAD, which is Theater Air
Defense. It„s an advanced Anti-Weapons System, along
with the scalar plasma weapon and the chemical laser
systems, able to knock out missiles that are coming into
Israel. The problem is...
KC: You‟re saying they are going to do an exercise.
When, exactly?
BD: They‟re doing an exercise in June. That‟s next
month.
KC: And that‟s within Israel or with the U.S. and Israel?
BD: Within Israel. Now, there is another game going on
with space command that is supposed to be sometime
this year and I don‟t know what month yet, because my
sources can‟t tell me. But, the one in Israel is June.
KC: Okay. Within these games sometimes, as what
happened with 9/11, the game becomes a cover for some
actual operation that takes place.
BD: Exactly. So it could occur in June during this game.
The reason we look for it is that in order to do a modern
advanced war you need what‟s called air based
intelligence, etcetera, which is why they do
supercomputers. They‟ve got Space Based GPS. They
have to have all their material in place, so it‟s very, very
likely that the attack will occur in June during this war
game. If it doesn‟t it‟s going to happen from that point to
probably the early fall.
If we permit them to do it, the Strait of Hormuzand I was
told this supernaturally 20 years ago -- the Strait of
Hormuz will be cut off. All the oil which goes to... about
80 percent of it goes to Asian countries. Indonesia, China,
South Korea will loose their major supply of oil and the
world economy will collapse. The disarray will cause the
starvation of a billion people.
This we can avoid if we prevent Israel from making an
attack. There is no need; as the dialogue is already
started between Obama and Ahmadinejad, who is now
going to the elections in the next few weeks.
Ahmadinejad is now talking, which is a miracle. If we do
not move toward peace, the war that we are going to see
is not just going to take out people downwind of the
Bushehr reactor, which is 62 tons of Uranium 35, but
there is 1250 targets they are going to hit with nuclear
weapons including neutron bombs, bunker busters, and
these new advanced, what‟s called plasma warheads,
okay?
If they do this, I cannot say that we will not have an
exchange of other weapons. And almost certainly, and
this is from actual sources, there are sleeper agents
inside the United States, Canada and Western world in
Britain, that have third generation bioweapons developed
by Russian scientists for the past 18 years since Glasnost
and Perestroika. When these scientists were starving, the
Syrians and Iranians hired them, and they have the most
advanced biological weapons in history. They will make
even the so-called hybrid flu look like it is nothing.
So the point is that we can turn back, but we need to
hear. The reason I speak now as a prophet is to tell them:
Turn back now because there is the way of light and
safety and peace and the Coat of Many Colors of Joseph,
who is my Father, okay? Because I‟m of the tribe of
Ephraim, or Joseph.
KC: Okay, yes. I appreciate that. You have to understand
that we get people... I mean, to call yourself a prophet,
this is not unusual. There are many, many, many people
out there right now considering themselves the same way
you consider yourself.
BD: I know. I hear about it all the time. It‟s really... it‟s
disturbing. Anybody who wants to be a prophet is... how
can I say, it‟s a job no one wants to apply for. If you do,
it‟s because you are imbalanced. I do not want to do this
job. I tried to escape it many times. Believe me, I have
been swallowed in the belly of the whale.
KC: Okay, well...
BD: I‟ve been put in the place of these things. If you
want to do it, it‟s like cleaning a latrine while it‟s still
being used and you are under it, okay?
KC: Well, Bill, you know Project Camelot could be put in
that same category. We‟re actually... All of the people
that are trying to warn the masses, if you will, as to
what‟s really going on could be classified as prophets. It‟s
better if we stay out of the sort of evangelical perspective
of ourselves and kind of, you know...
BD: There‟s something I need to clarify. There‟s many
people that receive a prophetic word, have an intuitive
knowledge, have a technology that they use...
KC: Absolutely.
BD: ...just like there‟s “prophets” that are coming out of
the Hopi Indian tribe and others. But there‟s those who
“don‟t just operate and receive the prophetic word” now
and then, but operate in the office of the prophet. I have
to say this repeatedly so people understand it: the reason
why I‟ve been in all these places is because they needed
trust.
There‟s lots of things I don‟t know, okay? There are lots of
areas I‟m not an expert in. But when I speak in an area
like this flu or these wars or other things, I‟m speaking in
the office of a prophet. Someone who has the authority
and right to say it. And you need to understand we have a
choice now.
KC: I appreciate that. We are going to try to wrap this up
right here now. Bill Deagle has to go as well. So I wanted
to thank you, Dr. Bill Deagle for your willingness to
confront and to be open and talk about issues that are
sometimes antagonistic to yourself. That‟s a wonderful
trait that you have and I just want to honor you for that.
BD: Yes, in fact, we actually had a reconciliation; with
Donna and Mark Taylor. I actually spoke with them
through a live audio connection at the tenth anniversary
of Columbine. That negativity, by the way, arose because
they had an offer from a movie company to take the
script, which we had been working on for over a year, into
a big movie.
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We didn‟t agree on the modus by which it was going to
happen. They had been offered a lot of money and we
didn‟t want it to be degraded. We wanted the truth to be
brought out rather than to have it spawn into something
else. And that‟s all reconciled. So, out of my discussion
with you on that...
KC: Okay, well, thank you for that.
BD: ...so I can thank Project Camelot. Now I want to say
one thing. There‟s a chorus -- it‟s not just myself --
there‟s a chorus of people who truly are called to speak
prophetically that need to rise up and say the truth, after
being very humble and making sure they don‟t have a
personal agenda, that we need to turn back from this. We
have people like I‟m going to have on the program
shortly, John Boncore, who‟s a Mohawk prophet. He was
prophesized hundreds of years ago by his own people.
There‟s Hopi prophets, there‟s Jewish prophets, there‟s
Christian, there„s a list. There‟s people all over the world
that are, literally I call The Coat of Many Colors. Every
skin color, every nation, every religion who are starting to
know it‟s a time of decision for mankind. We need to turn
back now or we‟re going to face a whole confluence of
super storms of economic, climate shift, biological
warfare, and evil.
For example, there‟s very good evidence from Len
Horowitz, and I believe he is correct, that the World
Health Organization, the CDC and Novavax are behind
this latest release of this weaponized plague that‟s been
released in Mexico City. The globalists have published in
their documents that they want to reduce the world
population. We do not need to go there.
We can have an alternative future where mankind is safe.
Where people have true human rights. Where people
have the right to grow and to believe and to have safety
and healthcare and food and not be exposed to toxic
poisons or electromagnetic radiation and have some
degree of autonomy. But we are heading toward a world
where autonomy is going to be a thing of the past, where
mass starvation and violence are going to rule, and I
don‟t want to see us go there. But we need to turn back
now because we have a matter of months, not years left,
to make that turn.
KC: Okay, thank you, Bill. Bill Ryan, is there anything
you want to say before we end this here?
BR: I just want to say thank you very much Bill. There‟s
total consistency with everything you‟re saying now and
everything that a lot of people have heard or watched you
say in your 2006 Granada Forum lecture. We have a team
of transcribers who are transcribing that, and that‟s
nearly finished now, and we are going to make that
available to you as soon as we can for publication on your
site and everywhere, so the whole thing‟s Google
searchable; translatable. We want to get this information
out there and support you fully in everything you‟re
doing.
BD: Well, I want to pray for people and for you, too --
both you, Kerry, and Bill -- for the wonderful work you‟re
doing to try to get people to realize that we are cocreators
of our own future. We‟re not a victim of the
future; we are the co-creator, but we also have to take
our scepter. We have to also realize that if someone dies
in a third world country that‟s an untouchable in India, or
someone in Mexico City that‟s living on a garbage heap
dies, we die. Some portion of us dies too.
If we allow the use of depleted uranium weapons to kill
little girls in the Gaza City by Israeli troops, or we allow
nuclear weapons to drop on the Bushehr reactor and
downwind millions die from radiation poisoning, we die
too. If we can feel that connectedness in spirit, as a cell in
the body of mankind, we would repent and we‟d turn back
from that.
KC: Okay thank you. Very well put. All right, I‟m going to
close this down then. Thank you very much, Dr. Bill
Deagle.
BD: Thank you Kerry, I really appreciate it. Thank you
Bill Ryan and God bless everyone. Now‟s the time to have
a backbone to stand up for the truth and to pray and to
be humble and call on our creator to stand us up on our
feet so that we can tell the truth to others that we have to
turn back from war, from pestilence, and from economic
greed and the idea that we need to reduce the world
population with lies like a carbon tax...
KC: Absolutely.
BD: ...and all these other evils.
KC: All right thank you very much.
BD: Take care.
KC: Bye.
BD: Bye-bye.
BR: Thank you, Dr. Bill.
BD: You‟re welcome. Bye.
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