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DRAFT MINUTES - Law Commission - Ministry of Justice

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COMMISSIONERS’ MEETING 24 OCTOBER 2012<br />

Present: Chairman Chief Executive<br />

Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Elizabeth Cooke Adrian Hogarth<br />

David Hertzell<br />

Pr<strong>of</strong>essor David Ormerod Item 3<br />

Frances Patterson QC Claire Brown<br />

Kate Grady<br />

Aine Kervick<br />

Simon Tabbush<br />

Item 1: Approval <strong>of</strong> the Minutes <strong>of</strong> the Meeting on 10 October<br />

File Ref: COP/001/001/7-03<br />

1. The minutes <strong>of</strong> the previous meeting on 10 October were approved for<br />

disclosure purposes.<br />

Item 2: Matters Arising<br />

Easements and Intestacy Projects<br />

2. Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Cooke updated <strong>Commission</strong>ers on progress with the <strong>Ministry</strong> <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>Justice</strong> with the Intestacy project and it was noted that the <strong>Commission</strong> was due a<br />

response from the Minister about the Easements project by the end <strong>of</strong> October.<br />

Scottish <strong>Law</strong> <strong>Commission</strong> Bill<br />

3. <strong>Commission</strong>ers noted that it was planned to be introduced soon using the <strong>Law</strong><br />

<strong>Commission</strong>s procedure.<br />

Evidence to Political and Constitutional Reform Select Committee<br />

4. The Chairman advised <strong>Commission</strong>ers that his appearance before the select<br />

committee had appeared to go well and he expressed thanks to all those who had been<br />

involved in preparing him for it. Matters which had come up at the hearing included<br />

the <strong>Commission</strong> <strong>of</strong>fering briefing to Parliamentarians during the progress <strong>of</strong> our Bills<br />

in the House <strong>of</strong> Commons, consulting the select committee in the lead up to the<br />

development <strong>of</strong> the next programme <strong>of</strong> law reform and consulting them on specific<br />

projects. It was noted that the Chairman <strong>of</strong> the select committee has expressed a high<br />

regard for the work <strong>of</strong> the <strong>Law</strong> <strong>Commission</strong> in his closing remarks.<br />

Branding<br />

5. The position <strong>of</strong> the <strong>Commission</strong> in relation to its own branding and website<br />

was discussed and it was noted that a response was expected to the Chairman’s letter<br />

to the Lord Chancellor imminently.<br />

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Legal Wales<br />

6. The Chairman advised <strong>Commission</strong>ers <strong>of</strong> his speech to the Legal Wales<br />

conference and the follow up work that was being done in relation to exploring<br />

options for ensuring the <strong>Commission</strong> could take references from the Welsh<br />

Government and also how the commission could ensure it was keeping abreast <strong>of</strong><br />

developments in welsh law generally. Papers exploring these matters would come<br />

before <strong>Commission</strong>ers in due course.<br />

William Dale Lecture<br />

7. The Chairman invited <strong>Commission</strong>ers to contribute ideas for his forthcoming<br />

lecture.<br />

Item 3: Contempt <strong>of</strong> Court Consultation Paper<br />

8. <strong>Commission</strong>ers had before them the draft consultation paper and appendices<br />

attached to Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Ormerod’s minute <strong>of</strong> 25 September, the modern media chapter<br />

attached to Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Ormerod’s minute <strong>of</strong> 4 October, and the impact assessments<br />

attached to Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Ormerod’s minute <strong>of</strong> 17 October, together with minutes from<br />

Mr Hertzell <strong>of</strong> 8 October and his e-mail <strong>of</strong> 18 October, Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Cooke <strong>of</strong><br />

12 October and her e-mail <strong>of</strong> 12 October, and separate minutes from Miss Patterson<br />

and Chairman <strong>of</strong> 16 October, and Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Ormerod’s response <strong>of</strong> 22 October.<br />

Summary<br />

9. The <strong>Commission</strong>ers discussed the next steps for the scandalising the<br />

court project and the draft consultation paper on contempt.<br />

Scandalising the Court<br />

10. It was agreed that:<br />

Contempt <strong>of</strong> Court<br />

11. It was agreed that:<br />

(1) A summary <strong>of</strong> the responses to the scandalising the court<br />

consultation paper will be published online shortly.<br />

(2) A full report will be published in a few weeks time.<br />

(1) paragraph 2.45, on the relationship between substantial risk<br />

and serious prejudice, would be redrafted and avoid the use<br />

<strong>of</strong> the word “balance”.<br />

(2) paragraph 3.40 and onwards on the discussion <strong>of</strong> the<br />

decision in Beggs would be redrafted.<br />

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Item 4: Other Business<br />

(3) the suggestion for a judicial helpline as a specific proposal<br />

will be removed. A range <strong>of</strong> measures will be suggested<br />

which might help address the problems <strong>of</strong> juror contempts<br />

at paragraph 4.90.<br />

(4) the report would contain a proposal recommending<br />

guidance for the release <strong>of</strong> arrestees’ names on request.<br />

(5) paragraph 2.57 as it stands is sufficient to draw attention to<br />

the fact that the Attorney General’s decisions in relation to<br />

contempt <strong>of</strong> court are not currently judicially reviewable.<br />

(6) a test <strong>of</strong> “recklessness” in relation to knowledge <strong>of</strong> the<br />

section 4(2) database would be considered.<br />

(7) paragraph 4.70 will be expanded to explain the reasoning<br />

behind the different options on the allocation <strong>of</strong> judges to<br />

contempt cases.<br />

(8) a track changes version <strong>of</strong> the paper will be circulated to<br />

<strong>Commission</strong>ers at a time to be agreed.<br />

(9) the publication date is 28 November.<br />

12. There was no other business.<br />

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