Hey, old man! What's in the bag? - Trixine
Hey, old man! What's in the bag? - Trixine
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(tbtmo18) and it got great reviews. People were commend<strong>in</strong>g<br />
<strong>the</strong> quality of it and <strong>the</strong> way it flowed like an album, <strong>in</strong>stead of<br />
first a pop song, <strong>the</strong>n dreamy song, flamenco twee pop song,<br />
noise rock song, drone song, loud power-pop song, etc. We<br />
made ano<strong>the</strong>r comp with <strong>the</strong> approval of Darla, Vibon, and it<br />
s<strong>old</strong> really well at a budget price- a great idea by Darla as an<br />
<strong>in</strong>troductory tbtmo release, to help sell all <strong>the</strong> artists <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />
future. He just agreed to vibon 2 be<strong>in</strong>g a double-cd, so he<br />
likes what we're do<strong>in</strong>g. Lots of artists will be on that one,<br />
mostly from around here. I'm all about support<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> local<br />
scene, though I have friends I like <strong>in</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r places that i wanna<br />
hook up as well.<br />
Casey: <strong>What's</strong> <strong>the</strong> best way to go about gett<strong>in</strong>g on a Darla<br />
comp, or any comp of that nature?<br />
Rob: The best way to get on a Darla comp or get Darla to listen<br />
to your stuff <strong>in</strong> general is to go thru a "subsidiary" of his like<br />
ours, fuzzy box, etc. There's a new guy we're "work<strong>in</strong>g with"<br />
(digg<strong>in</strong>g his stuff), called phasmid, really good, and I was like,<br />
“yo, I can try to sw<strong>in</strong>g you onto a comp, and <strong>the</strong>n maybe we<br />
can see about a full-length down <strong>the</strong> road”. He said he sent<br />
Darla a cd recently, but never heard anyth<strong>in</strong>g. Darla is huge<br />
and gets like hundreds of cds a month, and can't give <strong>the</strong>m<br />
all a good listen, I'm sure, regardless of how hard he tries. So<br />
anyway, phasmid is gonna be on Vibon 2, deservedly so, and<br />
we got him a spot on an Austrian comp as well, on Skylab<br />
Operations. So now he's halfway <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong>re.<br />
Casey: If you don't m<strong>in</strong>d me ask<strong>in</strong>g, how did you get money to<br />
release your stuff before Darla. i.e. What are your day jobs?<br />
Rob: We hardly had money to release before <strong>the</strong> Darla<br />
hookup, so I'm glad we have it, it helps alot of people out.<br />
And as I said, Darla is be<strong>in</strong>g really generous as as far as<br />
front<strong>in</strong>g money. I th<strong>in</strong>k <strong>the</strong> Collette Carter cd is sell<strong>in</strong>g really<br />
well for him, so soon enough he'll be mak<strong>in</strong>g money off tbtmo<br />
and hopefully we will too, but I th<strong>in</strong>k just hav<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> cds made<br />
for free and distro'd 'round <strong>the</strong> world is a deal alone.<br />
Yeah, we have day jobs. 'nuff said.<br />
Casey: Before Darla, most of your sales generated from Philly<br />
stores, shows, and <strong>in</strong>ternet, right? How about now that you’re<br />
gett<strong>in</strong>g bigger distribution?<br />
Rob: Yeah, we have a good lockdown on sales w/ tbtmo.com.<br />
We sell some at shows, but for <strong>the</strong> most part we're really nice<br />
and more <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong> hav<strong>in</strong>g our stuff heard by friends than<br />
sell<strong>in</strong>g to friends, and of course if we play with a band we like,<br />
we usually just trade cds. So it's hard to make money face-toface,<br />
hard to be bus<strong>in</strong>ess-like when you’re face-to-face.<br />
Sell<strong>in</strong>g onl<strong>in</strong>e works pretty well, and Darla gets <strong>the</strong> shit <strong>in</strong>to<br />
stores all over so people can buy around <strong>the</strong> world if <strong>the</strong>y're a<br />
store-buyer as opposed to <strong>in</strong>ternet buyer, and even <strong>the</strong>n,<br />
Darla sells our stuff on his site too.<br />
www.tbtmo.com<br />
Casey: I was recently talk<strong>in</strong>g to<br />
this guy, and he was compla<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />
about how much Philly<br />
DJ/club politics suck, that most<br />
of <strong>the</strong> better known DJs suck,<br />
and <strong>the</strong> only way anyone gets a<br />
decent gig is to know <strong>the</strong> right<br />
people. How do you feel about<br />
this comment? For <strong>the</strong> most<br />
part, I th<strong>in</strong>k it's pretty off-base,<br />
but <strong>the</strong>re is just a little truth to it.<br />
Rob: I th<strong>in</strong>k <strong>the</strong>re are some<br />
sucky people out <strong>the</strong>re gett<strong>in</strong>g<br />
monthlies and such because <strong>the</strong>y're persistent. And I th<strong>in</strong>k<br />
<strong>the</strong>re are good people lay<strong>in</strong>g low because <strong>the</strong>y don't have <strong>the</strong><br />
<strong>in</strong>itiative to go club-hopp<strong>in</strong>g and begg<strong>in</strong>g for a night. Also I<br />
feel that taste differs from one person to ano<strong>the</strong>r and<br />
although a person may not be great <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> traditional dj<br />
sense, <strong>the</strong> style of music that <strong>the</strong>y like and/or make is unique<br />
enough to warrant a nite, but sometimes it doesn't happen.<br />
There are alot of factors. Then <strong>the</strong>re's <strong>the</strong> whole Mak<strong>in</strong>g Time/<br />
Brit-pop mod and eighties "dj" explosion, that's someth<strong>in</strong>g I<br />
don't even wanna get <strong>in</strong>to.<br />
Casey: So how do you th<strong>in</strong>k this affects someone newer to <strong>the</strong><br />
scene try<strong>in</strong>g to get his/her music or skills (DJ<strong>in</strong>g, light<strong>in</strong>g, promot<strong>in</strong>g,<br />
etc.) out to people, and what is <strong>the</strong> best route to ga<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />
respect <strong>in</strong> Philly? What are some of <strong>the</strong> common pitfalls<br />
you've seen <strong>in</strong> people try<strong>in</strong>g to make a name for <strong>the</strong>mselves?<br />
Rob: I th<strong>in</strong>k it helps if you stick with people you like who are<br />
do<strong>in</strong>g good (good <strong>in</strong> your op<strong>in</strong>ion) stuff. It may not be <strong>the</strong><br />
popular th<strong>in</strong>g but it will come around and you'll get your<br />
opportunities to show your stuff. As far as pitfalls, I dunno if<br />
this is a pitfall but you can be a very hard worker and still suck<br />
as far as taste goes. And you can have great taste and/or<br />
skills and be a lazy son of a gun and not really "work <strong>the</strong><br />
scene", and not get as much go<strong>in</strong>g on as you could. If you're<br />
not gett<strong>in</strong>g gigs, though, I th<strong>in</strong>k you'd have to blame yourself,<br />
not everyone else, because while alot of people around <strong>the</strong><br />
city are good <strong>the</strong>re are always <strong>the</strong> wankers who will steal your<br />
monthly spot if you don't work to grab it first. And you'll say,<br />
"How did this moron get a monthly at this place?", and obviously<br />
he just beat you to <strong>the</strong> punch because you were at<br />
home kiss<strong>in</strong>g your girl or play<strong>in</strong>g Playstation. But <strong>the</strong>n, you<br />
have to ask yourself, is kiss<strong>in</strong>g my girl or play<strong>in</strong>g Playstation<br />
more important than gett<strong>in</strong>g a monthly? And <strong>the</strong> answer is up<br />
to you. It's your world, <strong>the</strong> rest of us just live <strong>in</strong> it. But I th<strong>in</strong>k<br />
compla<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g is counterproductive, and I'd hate to repeat a<br />
catch-phrase from a huge sneaker company so I won't, but<br />
that is what it's all about.<br />
Casey: Thanks for lett<strong>in</strong>g us know what's been go<strong>in</strong>g on with<br />
you, and congratulations with everyth<strong>in</strong>g, and best of luck!<br />
Rob: Thanks for <strong>the</strong> open forum. Everyone, one <strong>the</strong> count of<br />
three, take a killer bong hit. Cough to get off. 1... 2... 3!