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wheat, you get a contract for delivery. It's exactly what we do, but we'll be<br />

buying the lowest cost way of reducing emissions in this country.<br />

It's actually very simple, it's what happens in many circumstances in many<br />

issues, many commodities around the world.<br />

JOHN STANLEY: Yeah so you'd hope to start that middle of next year?<br />

GREG HUNT:<br />

First of July 2014 and the big test between now and then, the country voted for<br />

a change of government, one of the fundamental elements arguably the<br />

fundamental element was the issue of the carbon tax, it was set out expressly in<br />

the first and last weeks of the election by Tony Abbott as the central<br />

referendum item.<br />

We would expect that the ALP will listen to the public and not stand in the way<br />

of lower electricity prices and not stand in the way of a system which would<br />

directly reduce emissions, rather than hope that jacking up the cost of living<br />

and jacking up the cost of electricity will cause so much pain that people will<br />

suffer.<br />

JOHN STANLEY: And by the time we get to the next election you'll be able to point - you would<br />

hope if you can get it in by the middle of next year, and you'll have two years<br />

of operating. You'll be able to point some substantial reductions in emissions<br />

that you'll be able to demonstrate flowing from your plan?<br />

GREG HUNT:<br />

Yes and of course we should be judged on that, so I fully expect to be the<br />

person that's judged on that. The thing that we do need to happen is for the<br />

ALP to respect the mandate of the people, your listeners, they voted. Some<br />

would have voted one way some would have voted another, but pretty clearly<br />

we've had as big a result as any since 1977, apart from that 1996.<br />

So in other words, in eleven elections this has been the second best result, the<br />

second most comprehensive result. So you would hope that they would say,<br />

this is the ALP, that the government of Australia changed, and just as we<br />

respected the mandate to repeal workchoices in 2007, they should respect their<br />

mandate to repeal the carbon tax.<br />

JOHN STANLEY: Right, and on the science of climate change, you've talked to Tony Abbott<br />

about this, is he at one <strong>with</strong> you on this in accepting the science as well?<br />

GREG HUNT:<br />

Yes he is, there's a lot of mythology here, on the floor of the house in I think it<br />

was June, Tony Abbott was asked a question about accepting the science. It<br />

was a curious thing which involved Rob Oakeshott, and he got up and made a<br />

very very clear statement that he accepts the science, we just disagree on the<br />

carbon tax.<br />

Because emissions go up on the one hand, but electricity prices also skyrocket<br />

so it doesn't do the job. That's the critical thing here, it doesn't do the job but<br />

boy it causes a lot of pain along the way.<br />

JOHN STANLEY: All right, Greg Hunt as always great to talk to you and I'm sure we'll have more<br />

conversations along these lines over the next three years. Thank you for your<br />

time today.

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