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AGENDA ITEM #4: MINUTES
SUBJECT:
<strong>Minutes</strong> <strong>of</strong> previous <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> <strong>meeting</strong>.
BACKGROUND:
<strong>Minutes</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> <strong>meeting</strong> <strong>held</strong> on September 15, 2010.
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RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Approve <strong>the</strong> minutes.
Hampton Roads Transportation Planning Organization Meeting – October 20, 2010

Hampton Roads Transportation Planning Organization (TPO)
<strong>Board</strong> Meeting <strong>Minutes</strong> <strong>of</strong> September 15, 2010
The Hampton Roads TPO <strong>Board</strong> Meeting was called to order at 10:45 a.m. in <strong>the</strong> Regional
<strong>Board</strong>room, 723 Woodlake Drive, Chesapeake, Virginia, with <strong>the</strong> following in attendance:
<strong>HRTPO</strong> Voting Members:
William D. Sessoms, Chairman (VB)
Molly Joseph Ward, Vice-Chair (HA)
Alan P. Krasn<strong>of</strong>f (CH)
Clifton Hayes (Alternate, CH)
Stan D. Clark (IW)*
Bruce C. Goodson (JC)
McKinley Price (NN)
Paul D. Fraim (NO)
Elizabeth Psimas (PO)
Linda T. Johnson (SU)
<strong>HRTPO</strong> Voting Members Absent:
Christian D. Rilee (GL)
Gordon C. Helsel, Jr. (PQ)
Clyde Haulman (WM)
Corey W. Hill (DRPT)
<strong>HRTPO</strong> Nonvoting Members:
William E. Harrell (CH)
Brenda Garton (GL)
Mary Bunting (HA)
Robert Middaugh (JC)
Neil A. Morgan (NN)
Regina V.K. Williams (NO)
Kenneth L. Chandler (PO)
J. Randall Wheeler (PQ)*
<strong>HRTPO</strong> Nonvoting Members Absent:
W. Douglas Caskey (IW)
William Harrison (CTAC)
Jeffrey Breeden (FAA)
Irene Rico (FHWA)
Ivan Rucker (FHWA)
Tony Cho (FTA)
*Late arrival or early departure
Robert Barclay (Alternate, SU)
Thomas G. Shepperd, Jr. (YK)
Amy Inman (Alternate, DRPT)
Delegate John Cosgrove (GA)
Delegate Glenn Oder (GA)
Senator John Miller (GA)
Philip Shucet (HRT)
Eric Stringfield (Alternate, VDOT)
Jeff Florin (Alternate, VPA)
Mark Rickards (WATA)
Senator Yvonne B. Miller (GA)
Dennis Heuer (VDOT)
Jerry Bridges (VPA)
Selena Cuffee-Glenn (SU)
James K. Spore (VB)
Jackson C. Tuttle, II (WM)
James O. McReynolds (YK)
Colonel Glenn Gro<strong>the</strong> (Army)
Capt. George Bonner (Alternate, USCG)
Joe Howell (Alternate, USN)
Letitia A. Thompson (FTA)
William Bell (FTAC)
Wayne Shank (NAA)
Ken Spirito (PAC)
Capt. Mark Ogle (USCG)
Capt. Mary Jackson (USN)
Randall P. Burdette (VDOA)
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O<strong>the</strong>rs Recorded Attending:
Natalie Balingit, Terri Boo<strong>the</strong>, Jack Gergely, Chris Malendoski, Henry Ryto (Citizens); Earl
Sorey, Ella P. Ward (CH); Keith Cannady (HA); Tom Slaughter, Jerri Wilson (NN); Will
Christopher, Bryan Pennington, Jeff Raliski, Tara Su<strong>the</strong>rland, Rod Woolard (NO); Eric
Nielsen (SU); Bob Matthias, Mark Schnaufer (VB); Rose Pruden (Legislative Aide to Senator
Yvonne Miller); Tim Kerr (Chesapeake Alliance); Barry Bishop, Brad Face (Greater Norfolk
Corp.); Chris Collins, Adam Jack, Christopher Voigt (VDOT); Ellis James (Sierra Club
Observer); Ben Reim (Kimley-Horn); Chuck Cayton (RK&K); Debbie Messina (The Virginian
Pilot); Peter Huber (Willcox and Savage); Chris Lloyd (McGuire Woods); Mike Barrett,
Martha McClees (VB Vision); John Hendrickson (PB); Dana Dickens (HRP); Ray Taylor
(FHR); Jim Oliver (HRCCE); Ray Amoruso (HRT); Germaine Fleet (Biggs & Fleet); HRPDC
and <strong>HRTPO</strong> Staff: Dwight Farmer, Jessica Banks, Sam Belfield, Shernita Be<strong>the</strong>a, John
Carlock, Rick Case, Rob Case, James Clary, Nancy Collins, Kathlene Grauberger, Greg
Grootendorst, Julia Hillegass, Frances Hughey, Jim Hummer, Rob Jacobs, Michael Kimbrel,
Brian Miller, Kendall Miller, Keith Nichols, Joe Paulus, Benito Pérez, Kelli Peterson, Andy
Pickard, Camelia Ravanbakht, Stephanie Shealey, Dale Stith, Joe Turner, and Chris Vaigneur.
Public Comment Period
Seven people requested to address <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong>. Chairman Sessoms asked <strong>the</strong>m to
limit <strong>the</strong>ir comments to three minutes.
Mr. James Babcock
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, good morning. My name is James Babcock. I am a resident <strong>of</strong>
Virginia Beach and I am <strong>the</strong> current Chairman <strong>of</strong> Future <strong>of</strong> Hampton Roads. I would like to
add some comments to <strong>the</strong> letter our organization sent recently to commend this group for
your work on <strong>the</strong> long term high-speed rail vision for Hampton Roads. That's a key part <strong>of</strong>
your legal responsibility for <strong>the</strong> region’s multi-modal transportation plan. In partnering with
<strong>the</strong> state on this work, you appropriately, very appropriately hired a rail consultant. However,
<strong>the</strong> need for doing this was questioned and a corresponding effort has been made to discredit
his work by suggesting he is controversial, lacks credentials for working in this country, is
swell-headed and so forth. However, such ad hominem comments are irrelevant, and <strong>the</strong>
pertinent questions are, how much experience does he have, how reasonable are his analytical
methods, how sound is his selection <strong>of</strong> input data, and how has his work been regarded by his
previous American clients. Dr. Metcalf has over 20 years <strong>of</strong> experience in <strong>the</strong> United States and
he has done over 50 rail forecasting studies for public agencies in Maine, Massachusetts, New
York, New Jersey, Maryland, Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, Ohio, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and for
<strong>the</strong> Nine-State Midwest region working with <strong>the</strong> Federal Railroad Administration. Last week I
spoke with six <strong>of</strong> his clients. The Executive Director <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Ohio Rail Department said and <strong>the</strong>se
are direct quotations, “Metcalf did a great job. We had his work vetted by our railroad
companies. We were very pleased.” A Minnesota <strong>of</strong>ficial said, “Metcalf is very sound, he got us
to think outside <strong>the</strong> box.” Ano<strong>the</strong>r Minnesota client said, “Dr. Metcalf is a supporter <strong>of</strong> highspeed
rail and his findings are optimistic but <strong>the</strong>y are realistic. You don't stay in business
without being credible.” A Maryland executive said: We had his work peer reviewed and it
passed with flying colors.” The head <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Ohio Rail Department and Chairman <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Nine-
State Midwest Rail Initiative said, “To review his work we employed Amtrak’s consultant, and
<strong>the</strong>y confirmed his numbers as being close to <strong>the</strong>ir own although <strong>the</strong>y use different forecasting
methods. His data sources are sound. He uses existing travel statistics to develop his
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equations. He uses <strong>the</strong> same forecasting black box that we use to build highways. We are very
pleased with his work.” I encourage you to extend Dr. Metcalf's contract without delay, not
only complete <strong>the</strong> supporting data for <strong>the</strong> overall vision but also to help with <strong>the</strong> detailed plans
for stations and o<strong>the</strong>r parts <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> system. Data that is needed by next year to ensure that
Hampton Roads passenger rail system is planned, funded, and built at <strong>the</strong> same time and to <strong>the</strong>
same level <strong>of</strong> quality as <strong>the</strong> rest <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Sou<strong>the</strong>ast High Speed Rail Corridor which is a goal that
is amply justified by our large population, our port, and our national defense establishment.
Thank you very much.
Mr. Dean McClain
Mayor Sessoms and members <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> MPO, my name is Dean McClain and I am <strong>the</strong> Division
Director for both Portsmouth and Suffolk divisions <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Chamber <strong>of</strong> Commerce and I am here
on behalf <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> full chamber here in <strong>the</strong> region. There is a letter in your packet expressing <strong>the</strong>
Chamber’s support for <strong>the</strong> second phase <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study. Now I will direct your attention to <strong>the</strong>
final paragraph where we recommend that <strong>the</strong>re is a continuous, rigorous, and transparent
peer review <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> second phase <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study. I too sat in, a couple weeks ago with <strong>the</strong> Chief
Executive Officers and <strong>the</strong>ir technical staff and I can say that reckoning back to my day as a
JMU student that we, <strong>the</strong>re was a 600 level Econ class and I would submit to you that obviously
<strong>the</strong> gentleman that is conducting this study is a very qualified gentleman, and maybe
sometimes we didn't get what he was trying to say, but in <strong>the</strong> long run, he knows what he is
doing, and he reckoned back to Lake Gaston, sometimes it takes a little vision, a little bit <strong>of</strong>
money to get us to where we want to be in <strong>the</strong> long run. So on behalf <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Chamber, I want to
express our support for <strong>the</strong> second phase <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study. Thank you.
Mr. Mike Barrett
Thank you, Mayor Sessoms, members <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> TPO. I am speaking on behalf <strong>of</strong> Virginia Beach
Vision, a group <strong>of</strong> about 120 regional business leaders at <strong>the</strong> Beach. We, too, endorse <strong>the</strong> highspeed
rail and intercity passenger rail connections to Hampton Roads. We believe that will be
transformational for our region and are absolutely essential. I need not remind any <strong>of</strong> you
about our connection to <strong>the</strong> Federal Government, sixteen departments and agencies, <strong>the</strong>
largest concentration <strong>of</strong> federal agencies anywhere outside <strong>of</strong> Washington, DC. High-speed
rail will immediately connect our military folks and our citizens to DC. We know from a survey
that we have done <strong>of</strong> our business members, just 200 firms, indicated <strong>the</strong>re would be at least
1,200 passenger trips per month from Hampton Roads to Washington and back. I think most
<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>m, I hope so. We are also a major tourism region as you well know – five million tourists
annually come to Hampton Roads to enjoy our many benefits and <strong>the</strong>y will benefit as well from
high-speed rail. We believe that <strong>the</strong> original study proves that our region is <strong>the</strong> best in <strong>the</strong>
country, <strong>the</strong> most competitive for a public/private venture. Therefore, we know we have been
late in joining this competition, but we think high-speed rail funding is absolutely essential.
We must not let this opportunity slip away due to inertia, so we encourage <strong>the</strong> TPO to
authorize <strong>the</strong> next phase <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study. Thank you so much.
Mr. Brad Face
Thank you. I am also here to urge <strong>the</strong> completion <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study. I was part <strong>of</strong> a little group – I
am representing <strong>the</strong> Greater Norfolk Corporation today. I was part <strong>of</strong> a little group some 15
years ago that I think went to each jurisdiction representative at this table asking support for
legislation that we were going to put forward in <strong>the</strong> legislature to put Hampton Roads on <strong>the</strong>
high-speed map because at that time we weren't on <strong>the</strong> FRA map at all. So, 15 years ago that
was a concept which was visionary and in <strong>the</strong> ensuing years many people thought it had
absolutely no chance <strong>of</strong> ever finding itself. Well, now we have <strong>the</strong> first part <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study that
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confirms <strong>the</strong> thinking we had as a community 15 years ago, and that is, we are uniquely
placed. We are <strong>the</strong> largest community and <strong>the</strong> only one <strong>of</strong> its size at <strong>the</strong> south end <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> only
pr<strong>of</strong>itable major corridor, high-speed rail corridor in <strong>the</strong> United States. We are a market that
is focused on Washington, DC. The good Lord put us here and we have a unique opportunity.
So I guess my point having worked on this 15 years, along with lot <strong>of</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r people, is this is not
<strong>the</strong> time to question little details and to wonder about a relatively small investment. I can't
think <strong>of</strong> many transportation opportunities that this region has in front <strong>of</strong> it that could be
transformational in nature and certainly if <strong>the</strong> data that has been put forth in <strong>the</strong> first part <strong>of</strong>
<strong>the</strong> study is true this is such a project that can be funded, again if <strong>the</strong> data is true, in large
measure with private sector dollars than with federal dollars and it is something that we can
see in <strong>the</strong> next ten to thirty years, so I urge you not to look at this as a difficult decision to
make, but as an opportunity that as a community we get toge<strong>the</strong>r and aggressively pursue, not
hesitantly, but aggressively pursue because it is simply a very simple question, do we want to
know whe<strong>the</strong>r this data is true and whe<strong>the</strong>r this opportunity is real and <strong>the</strong> cost <strong>of</strong> finding out
that answer is very small and <strong>the</strong> idea <strong>of</strong> not knowing that answer is just unthinkable. Thank
you very much.
Mr. Chris Malendoski
Good morning, Chris Malendoski, commercial broker, real estate broker, and I live in Norfolk.
Recently, on a particular science blog that I frequent, I chimed in on <strong>the</strong> feeding frenzy <strong>of</strong> a
discussion that New Orleans should be abandoned and why should any American taxpayer foot
<strong>the</strong> bill to rebuild. I countered quickly on <strong>the</strong> significant geopolitical importance <strong>of</strong> New
Orleans as an important port city. In o<strong>the</strong>r words, it is <strong>the</strong>re for a reason. I <strong>the</strong>n said, you can
rant in a similar fashion about <strong>the</strong> very vulnerable and heavily populated Virginia coast where
I live. And yeah Norfolk proper has <strong>the</strong> highest “sea level rise” on <strong>the</strong> East Coast but more aptly
termed land level sink. Tidewater sits on <strong>the</strong> coastal plain muck. We are also victims <strong>of</strong>
“isostatic rebound” from <strong>the</strong> last glaciation. Add to that <strong>the</strong> fact that we sit on <strong>the</strong> edge <strong>of</strong> one
<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> largest meteor impact craters on <strong>the</strong> planet, and <strong>the</strong>n aquifer depletion and land use
issues, land level sink. Point is, we are sinking a bit but this is not a disaster. We need to learn
to adapt and build accordingly. I went on to say we have <strong>the</strong> largest Navy base in <strong>the</strong> world,
<strong>the</strong> largest master jet base in North America, and <strong>the</strong> largest military concentration in <strong>the</strong>
country outside <strong>of</strong> DC. Our ships dispatch to every crisis, including September 11, and
Hampton’s F16s scrambled to protect <strong>the</strong> nation's capitol on that fateful day. We are <strong>the</strong>
largest natural deepwater harbor in <strong>the</strong> world which guards <strong>the</strong> entrance <strong>of</strong> one <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> busiest
and largest estuaries in <strong>the</strong> world, <strong>the</strong> Chesapeake Bay. They have to come through us to get
to DC, Philadelphia, Annapolis, and Baltimore, yet we are woefully, woefully underfunded by
our own state and Federal Government in terms <strong>of</strong> transportation, infrastructure, and
evacuation routes. There is a good reason all <strong>of</strong> this is here, and it ain't going away any time
soon. Nor would anyone in <strong>the</strong>ir right mind want it to. Do you think <strong>the</strong> American taxpayer
should foot our bill? You damn well better believe it. We have nothing to apologize for. In <strong>the</strong>
interest <strong>of</strong> our area, but also in <strong>the</strong> interest <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> health and security <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> free world, we
should (and have no qualms for doing so) be asking for <strong>the</strong> world. I understand <strong>the</strong>re has been
some controversy as <strong>of</strong> late as to whe<strong>the</strong>r we should continue funding this consultant
regarding high-speed rail. My question to you is: Can we afford not to? Have we ever, in <strong>the</strong>
history <strong>of</strong> our existence, truly marketed ourselves to this vast country in which we live in <strong>the</strong>
correct way? Have we ever linked toge<strong>the</strong>r in true symbiosis to get what we need for our
service people and our valuable citizens what <strong>the</strong>y deserve? We are definitely moving that
direction, thanks to your leadership. Please don't let it lapse. Literally <strong>the</strong> world depends upon
you. Continue funding this consultant. Thank you.
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Ms. Natalie Balingit
My name is Natalie Balingit, and I am actually just a Virginia Beach resident, raised in Norfolk
with my childhood, and I have had many opportunities to live elsewhere with my career. I am
actually a business owner and chose above <strong>of</strong> all places to be here, and I have heard about <strong>the</strong>
light rail since its inception and in <strong>the</strong> news, and for a lot <strong>of</strong> us in <strong>the</strong> general public, we have
always thought <strong>of</strong> it as a l<strong>of</strong>ty idea. We never really thought that <strong>the</strong> rubber would meet <strong>the</strong>
road for us to actually see it happen in our lifetimes. A lot <strong>of</strong> you are people that we put in
charge and trusted with your decisions, and we thank you for that. We are <strong>the</strong> next generation
that follows you and everything that you can give us, especially with <strong>the</strong> economy <strong>the</strong> way it is,
we are probably in <strong>the</strong> worst depression since <strong>the</strong> 1930s, give us a chance, pass <strong>the</strong> baton to us
to give us something that can make a difference. There is not a lot <strong>of</strong> things on <strong>the</strong> agenda that
can impact our local community and our society. Our generation is starving for something like
this. Give us <strong>the</strong> shot and give us <strong>the</strong> chance. It is not just going to affect us economically. I
know <strong>the</strong>re is investment, but every investment has its initial investment. Don't look at it short
term, look at it long term, and <strong>the</strong> dividends it pays out is not just what we do as far as having
transportation accessible, this has more to do with how we can change our local culture and
how we can become impact players in <strong>the</strong> world, in <strong>the</strong> United States. We are already <strong>the</strong> hub
<strong>of</strong> a lot <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> military community and just having that in <strong>the</strong> local area has made me more
patriotic than I think I would ever be and it gave me <strong>the</strong> desire, especially about hearing about
this project, to step up and speak my voice and ask for change. Every change has its adversity.
A lot <strong>of</strong> people, based on security, or disappointments from <strong>the</strong> past, have seen things fail. If I
initially saw this and saw something that could be something great, something bigger than all
<strong>of</strong> us that can change lives, leave a legacy, and allow our future generations to stand on <strong>the</strong>
shoulders <strong>of</strong> giants. I am asking for you to consider it more and continue with funding for <strong>the</strong>
consultant. Thank you.
Mr. Dana Dickens
Mr. Chairman, members <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong>, I rise to support <strong>the</strong> staff's decision. We have now a
partially developed picture <strong>of</strong> our high-speed rail future and I think in order for good decision
making, we need to fully develop that picture. Thank you, sir.
Consent Agenda
Chairman Sessoms outlined <strong>the</strong> Consent Agenda as follows:
• <strong>Minutes</strong>
• Hampton Roads Congestion Management Process 2010 Update: Final Report
• FY 2009-2012 Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) Amendment: Public
Transportation
• FY 2009-2012 Transportation Improvement Program Revision: Norfolk
• FY 2009-2012 Transportation Improvement Program Revision: FY 2010 CMAQ
Reserve Funds
• Transportation Advisory Committee Bylaws
Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f asked to add a new business item regarding U.S. Route 17/Dominion
Boulevard to <strong>the</strong> agenda. Mr. Clark Moved to accept <strong>the</strong> Consent Agenda with <strong>the</strong>
amendment; seconded by Mayor Fraim. The Motion Carried.
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Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel: VDOT
Mr. Chris Collins, <strong>the</strong> Virginia Department <strong>of</strong> Transportation’s (VDOT) Project Studies
Manager was introduced to present an update to <strong>the</strong> Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel
(HRBT) study initiated by VDOT.
According to Mr. Collins, <strong>the</strong> purpose <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study is to:
• Secure state and federal decision on what, if anything to build
• Secure federal approvals to advance <strong>the</strong> project to design, right <strong>of</strong> way acquisition,
and construction
• Support acquisition <strong>of</strong> water quality permits
• Make <strong>the</strong> project eligible for FHWA funding
• Prepare for PPTA proposals
Mr. Collins noted that in order to advance a project, it must move through <strong>the</strong> National
Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) process. The intention <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> NEPA process is to assist in
decision making and to ultimately position a project to receive federal funding.
He indicated <strong>the</strong> scope <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study is to prepare an environmental impact statement which
will be a product <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> NEPA process. Second, it is <strong>the</strong> intent to narrow <strong>the</strong> focus to <strong>the</strong>
existing HRBT facility and find solutions that revolve around it. Finally, <strong>the</strong> linear termini
<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study will be from I-664 to I-564.
(Mr. Wheeler departs)
Mr. Collins stated <strong>the</strong> study is federally required and several elements will be researched,
including:
• Traffic studies, analysis <strong>of</strong> safety problems, future maintenance requirements, and
hurricane evacuation
• Engineering studies including <strong>the</strong> development and analysis <strong>of</strong> multiple solutions
• Tolling studies
• Environmental studies
• Public involvement, local government and agency coordination
The study will hopefully begin in April 2011 with a Draft Environmental Impact Statement
(EIS) by September 2012 and a Final EIS in March 2014. Funding for <strong>the</strong> study is included
in <strong>the</strong> Six Year Improvement Program (SYIP) and comprised mainly <strong>of</strong> interstate and
priority transportation funds. The study is estimated at a cost <strong>of</strong> $5,000,000 over <strong>the</strong> three
year period.
Mr. Collins noted VDOT conducted a 2008 HRBT feasibility study and stated it will serve as
a good basis for <strong>the</strong> current study; however, it was not <strong>the</strong> intent <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> 2008 study to yield
any Commonwealth Transportation <strong>Board</strong> (CTB) or Federal Highway Administration
(FHWA) approvals.
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In conclusion, Mr. Collins indicated <strong>the</strong> new study will address different transportation
needs than <strong>the</strong> Hampton Roads Crossing Study. By having <strong>the</strong> focus <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study strictly on
<strong>the</strong> HRBT existing facility, it will bring <strong>the</strong> level <strong>of</strong> study and approvals to those currently in
place for <strong>the</strong> Hampton Roads Crossing Study.
Mayor Fraim noted his appreciation regarding <strong>the</strong> presentation; however, thought a
greater depth <strong>of</strong> understanding <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> specific intended goals was necessary. He indicated
this was his first viewing <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study and expressed concern that <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong> Norfolk was
not included in <strong>the</strong> initial <strong>meeting</strong>s. He stated he was not aware <strong>of</strong> VDOT advancing a study
in <strong>the</strong> past without it funneling through <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong>. Mayor Fraim inquired if VDOT would
slow down its study schedule if asked by <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong>. Mr. Collins replied Mr. Farmer had
posed that question four weeks ago, and Mr. Collins directed <strong>the</strong> question to Assistant
Commissioner Richard Walton who spoke with Secretary Connaughton, and <strong>the</strong> decision
was made to have <strong>the</strong> study schedule remain as planned.
Mr. Farmer stated in regards to <strong>the</strong> Hampton Roads Crossing Study, <strong>the</strong> MPO was engaged
in conversation on a regular basis from <strong>the</strong> beginning <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study, throughout <strong>the</strong> study,
and all <strong>the</strong> way to its conclusion. He asked Mr. Collins if <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> would be included in
<strong>the</strong> process and if <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong> would be updated on a consistent basis. Mr. Collins replied he
will inform <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong> in a timely manner and <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> should have <strong>the</strong> opportunity to be
a participating agency which would afford it more input into <strong>the</strong> purpose and need <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>
study.
Mr. Florin commented it was surprising that <strong>the</strong> study was transpiring without <strong>the</strong> input <strong>of</strong>
<strong>the</strong> port, <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong>, and o<strong>the</strong>r agencies and localities. He noted <strong>the</strong> EIS was especially
complicated with an aggressive timetable and any expansion at <strong>the</strong> HRBT will have
significant impact on private property owners on both sides <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> water. Mr. Florin stated
portions <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Third Crossing facility could be built now with I-564 fully funded in <strong>the</strong>
SYIP. The Virginia Port Authority (VPA) has acknowledged it will build <strong>the</strong> connection to
Craney Island as part <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Craney Island construction facility which would only leave <strong>the</strong>
tunnel to be built. In summary, Mr. Florin noted <strong>the</strong> importance <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> HRBT as <strong>the</strong> main
thoroughfare; however, resources are scarce and <strong>the</strong> sequence <strong>of</strong> projects to be built must
be closely considered.
Chairman Sessoms asked for clarification from Mr. Collins that VDOT was going to proceed
regardless <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> opinion <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong>. Mr. Collins replied affirmatively. Mayor
Fraim noted his objection to Mr. Collins’ response and stated it was a break <strong>of</strong> trust
between VDOT and <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong>.
Chairman Sessoms commented that although <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> may not have cohesively worked
toge<strong>the</strong>r in <strong>the</strong> past; <strong>the</strong> last year has seen many changes and <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong> has rallied to move
projects forward to advantage <strong>the</strong> region. He expressed his disappointment with VDOT’s
decision to continue <strong>the</strong> study.
Delegate Oder expressed his appreciation regarding <strong>the</strong> new study, stating <strong>the</strong> public has
asked for attention to <strong>the</strong> HRBT for quite some time, and he thanked VDOT for
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acknowledging it. He noted that besides being over capacity, <strong>the</strong> original facility is over
fifty years old and it is time to do an EIS <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> HRBT. The HRBT is a project that <strong>the</strong> area
has in <strong>the</strong> prioritization process and <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> needs to know <strong>the</strong> status. He stated <strong>the</strong>
General Assembly passed a bill this session supporting a Public-Private Partnership <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>
HRBT. He views <strong>the</strong> study as elevating <strong>the</strong> research on <strong>the</strong> HRBT in order to assist in <strong>the</strong>
prioritization process.
Mayor Fraim indicated <strong>the</strong>re is a process to be followed and VDOT has not adhered to it.
He stated that as Mayor <strong>of</strong> Norfolk, he spoke for <strong>the</strong> City when acknowledging <strong>the</strong> General
Assembly does not decide transportation decisions regarding which projects will be built
and in what order.
Mr. Stringfield commented <strong>the</strong> HRBT was identified as an unfunded need in <strong>the</strong> 2030 Long-
Range Transportation (LRTP) plan. The study will evaluate <strong>the</strong> needs <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> HRBT and
determine realistically what can be accomplished.
According to Mr. Shucet, <strong>the</strong> Third Crossing Study in 1993 was aided by a committee that
formally convened for a year before <strong>the</strong> consultant was hired. The committee contributed
to <strong>the</strong> scope <strong>of</strong> work and was kept informed <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study progress. He suggested VDOT
form a similar committee with representation from <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> to work cohesively on <strong>the</strong>
study.
Mayor Fraim asked <strong>the</strong> name <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> 2030 LRTP project. Mr. Stringfield replied <strong>the</strong> HRBT is
not in <strong>the</strong> 2030 LRTP itself; ra<strong>the</strong>r it is listed as an additional need. It is however, a project
in <strong>the</strong> 2034 LRTP.
Mayor Fraim noted <strong>the</strong> region has many needs; however, <strong>the</strong> HRBT is not a project listed in
<strong>the</strong> 2030 LRTP, and <strong>the</strong> money for <strong>the</strong> study should be used elsewhere.
Mayor Johnson expressed her concerning regarding <strong>the</strong> $5,000,000 cost <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> study. She
indicated <strong>the</strong> funds could be better utilized on an existing project within <strong>the</strong> 2030 LRTP.
High-Speed and Intercity Passenger Rail: Status Report
Mr. Farmer introduced Ms. Selena Cuffee-Glenn, Chair <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Transportation Advisory
Committee (TAC) to brief <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> on its last <strong>meeting</strong>.
Ms. Cuffee-Glenn stated <strong>the</strong> TAC expressed its full support for <strong>the</strong> next phase <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> high
speed and intercity passenger rail study; however, <strong>the</strong>re was a general agreement that in
order to fulfill those particular objectives, <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> should step back and slow
down <strong>the</strong> process. Because <strong>the</strong>re are so many complex issues associated with high-speed
rail, <strong>the</strong> TAC recommends that <strong>the</strong> scope <strong>of</strong> Phase 1 be expanded to include:
• Address issues related to coordination with localities, state, and federal agencies
• Address issues on property acquisitions
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• Remove Steps 1 and 2 from <strong>the</strong> scope <strong>of</strong> work so that <strong>the</strong> Virginia Department <strong>of</strong>
Rail and Public Transportation’s (DRPT) efforts are not duplicated
• Clarify <strong>the</strong> long term vision <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> for high-speed and intercity
passenger rail in Hampton Roads
• Identify <strong>the</strong> steps necessary to advance high-speed rail in Hampton Roads over <strong>the</strong>
long term
• Identify all <strong>the</strong> steps necessary to obtain federal grants
She noted <strong>the</strong> TAC will meet again in October and <strong>the</strong> Phase 1B Scope <strong>of</strong> Work will be
brought forth to <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> for approval at <strong>the</strong> October 20, 2010 <strong>meeting</strong>.
Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f asked if <strong>the</strong> new scope would include steps to acquire federal grants. Mr.
Farmer replied affirmatively.
Mayor Johnson Moved to authorize <strong>the</strong> Executive Director to execute <strong>the</strong> $10,000
Extension Addendum for <strong>the</strong> high-speed and intercity passenger rail study; seconded by
Mr. Florin. The Motion Carried.
Project Prioritization: Proposed Schedule
Ms. Ravanbakht stated <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong>, at its July 21, 2010 <strong>meeting</strong>, approved <strong>the</strong>
transportation project prioritization methodology report, which was <strong>the</strong> culmination <strong>of</strong> a
year-long effort to create a tool for prioritizing projects. The <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> requested to
have <strong>the</strong> projects prioritized for <strong>the</strong> September 2010 <strong>meeting</strong> and <strong>HRTPO</strong> staff has worked
with Transportation Technical Advisory Committee (TTAC) members to collect <strong>the</strong> data
necessary to apply <strong>the</strong> tool in an efficient manner under <strong>the</strong> accelerated schedule.
Ms. Ravanbakht noted staff has received over 200 potential projects to be included in <strong>the</strong>
2034 LRTP. TTAC reviewed <strong>the</strong> initial results and recommended <strong>the</strong> project viability
component be expanded to include <strong>the</strong> following:
• Inclusion <strong>of</strong> tolls as a source <strong>of</strong> additional funding
• Scaling <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> points for project completion
• Inclusion <strong>of</strong> milestones for <strong>the</strong> environmental process
• Inclusion <strong>of</strong> right-<strong>of</strong>-way and utilities
• Exceptions for projects under <strong>the</strong> Public/Private Transportation Act and nontraditional
methods
TTAC also suggested referring <strong>the</strong> prioritization tool back to its Committee and <strong>the</strong> Long-
Range Transportation Plan (LRTP) Subcommittee for fur<strong>the</strong>r review.
In conclusion, Ms. Ravanbakht indicated <strong>HRTPO</strong> staff will review technical comments and
refine <strong>the</strong> prioritization tool from August to November 2010. In November, preliminary
results will be presented to <strong>the</strong> TTAC, Citizen Transportation Advisory Committee (CTAC),
and <strong>the</strong> Freight Transportation Advisory Committee (FTAC) for evaluation with <strong>the</strong> results
presented to <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> in December 2010.
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Mr. Stringfield noted <strong>the</strong> prioritization process initially consisted <strong>of</strong> two components and
asked if <strong>the</strong> methodology or <strong>the</strong> data was incorrect. Ms. Ravanbakht replied <strong>the</strong>
methodology is sound; however, <strong>the</strong> data will be rechecked and <strong>the</strong>re may be minor
modifications to <strong>the</strong> percentages within <strong>the</strong> tool.
Mr. Florin applauded <strong>the</strong> staff’s efforts in creating <strong>the</strong> model and indicated <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong>
<strong>Board</strong> needs to be aware <strong>of</strong> how <strong>the</strong> inputs are derived because without valid data input,
<strong>the</strong> results can be questionable as in <strong>the</strong> preliminary test <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> tool. Ms. Ravanbakht
indicated that concern was one <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> reasons staff asked <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong> for more time in order
to validate <strong>the</strong> input data with TTAC and with assistance from CTAC and FTAC.
Mayor Ward asked if <strong>the</strong> output <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> prioritization tool would produce one final project
list or three lists due to <strong>the</strong> three components involved in <strong>the</strong> tool. She stated it was vital to
produce one final project list and noted that eventually <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong> would need to decide
how <strong>the</strong> list would be updated. Ms. Ravanbakht agreed and stated <strong>the</strong> process began with
one component and at <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong>’s request, <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r two components were added. She
suggested <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong> review each <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> three component final scores <strong>of</strong> project utility,
project viability, and economic vitality, and <strong>the</strong>n consolidate <strong>the</strong>m into one final overall
project score.
Senator John Miller asked for clarification regarding <strong>the</strong> scoring and asked if <strong>the</strong> end
product would deliver one final project score. Chairman Sessoms replied affirmatively.
Mr. Florin Moved to direct <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> staff to work with TTAC in refining <strong>the</strong> prioritization
tool with an end product <strong>of</strong> one final project score; seconded by Mayor Fraim. The Motion
Carried.
Correspondence <strong>of</strong> Interest
Chairman Sessoms highlighted <strong>the</strong> items in <strong>the</strong> Correspondence <strong>of</strong> Interest section <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>
Agenda packet.
For Your Information
Chairman Sessoms noted <strong>the</strong> items in <strong>the</strong> For Your Information section <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Agenda
packet.
Old/New Business
Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f thanked <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> for <strong>the</strong> opportunity to address <strong>the</strong> U.S. Route
17/Dominion Boulevard project in Chesapeake. He noted <strong>the</strong> project is included in <strong>the</strong>
2030 LRTP and is <strong>the</strong> connector road between Norfolk and Raleigh, NC. He introduced Mr.
Earl Sorey, City Engineer and Point Person for <strong>the</strong> Dominion Boulevard Project. Mr. Sorey
stated over <strong>the</strong> last two years, Chesapeake has made significant strides regarding <strong>the</strong>
advancement <strong>of</strong> Dominion Boulevard. In 2005, VDOT completed <strong>the</strong> sou<strong>the</strong>rn
improvements to U.S. Route 17 to <strong>the</strong> North Carolina border. Chesapeake’s plans to finish
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<strong>the</strong> remaining improvements to U.S. Route 17 are currently 80% complete and will be
100% complete within a few weeks. Right-<strong>of</strong>-way is actively being purchased and <strong>the</strong>
NEPA major environmental hurdle has been cleared. Chesapeake continues to refine its
funding and financing study in conjunction with VDOT. Mr. Sorey noted <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong>
Chesapeake is managing <strong>the</strong> project under contract with VDOT and has received a
preliminary credit rating, indicating <strong>the</strong> finance plan is sound with any additional
allocations to <strong>the</strong> project used to buy down <strong>the</strong> toll.
(Mr. Clark departs)
Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f indicated <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong> Chesapeake has received endorsements for <strong>the</strong> project
from Secretary Connaughton, <strong>the</strong> Virginia Port Authority, Senator Mark Warner, and
Senator Jim Webb. He stated that every day <strong>the</strong> project is delayed, it costs <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong>
Chesapeake $30,000. Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f Moved for <strong>the</strong> approval <strong>of</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> Resolution 2010-
08 by <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> supporting <strong>the</strong> U.S. Route 17/Dominion Boulevard project;
seconded by Mr. Shepperd.
Mr. Spore expressed concern regarding <strong>the</strong> process in which <strong>the</strong> project had come to <strong>the</strong>
<strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong>. Normally, a project is reviewed by TTAC, and once approved; it is brought
before <strong>the</strong> <strong>Board</strong>.
Mr. Harrell stated it is a long standing process <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> to move RSTP money within a
locality which is Chesapeake’s intent.
Mr. Sorey interjected that <strong>the</strong> resolution did not refer to RSTP funds; however, <strong>the</strong>
Chesapeake City Council unanimously adopted a resolution authorizing <strong>the</strong> City Manager to
request <strong>the</strong> reallocation <strong>of</strong> RSTP funds at <strong>the</strong> October <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> Meeting. He realized it
was a larger than normal request; however, <strong>the</strong> new RSTP funding allocations and
obligations requirements that took effect July 1st were forcing Chesapeake to move quickly
with <strong>the</strong> reallocation.
Mr. Spore asked for confirmation that only Chesapeake funds were to be transferred for <strong>the</strong>
Dominion Boulevard project. Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f replied affirmatively.
Delegate Cosgrove stated <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong> Chesapeake was requesting <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> view <strong>the</strong> U.S.
Route 17/Dominion Boulevard project as a priority. He indicated this project could occur
quickly and <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong>’s concurrence that it is a high priority project could assist in
<strong>the</strong> process with VDOT, <strong>the</strong> CTB, and perhaps <strong>the</strong> FHWA.
Mr. Goodson asked if <strong>the</strong> inventory regarding <strong>the</strong> accounting <strong>of</strong> RSTP and CMAQ funds had
been completed by VDOT. Mr. Stringfield replied <strong>the</strong> projects that have obligated amounts
have been identified; however, additional work needs to be done in order to move any
funds from those projects.
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Mr. Farmer asked Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f if he wanted to modify <strong>the</strong> resolution to reference <strong>the</strong>
RSTP transfer request. Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f stated <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong> Chesapeake is ready to move
forward with <strong>the</strong> resolution.
Mr. Sorey commented <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong> Chesapeake is acting on this request at <strong>the</strong> suggestion <strong>of</strong>
VDOT Commissioner Whirley and he recommended <strong>the</strong> RSTP allocations.
Mr. Farmer suggested adding a “Now <strong>the</strong>refore be it resolved” clause to include <strong>the</strong>
reallocation <strong>of</strong> Chesapeake RSTP funds. Delegate Cosgrove stated <strong>the</strong> City <strong>of</strong> Chesapeake
has not asked for <strong>the</strong> transfer <strong>of</strong> any monies yet; <strong>the</strong>refore <strong>the</strong> statement should not be
included in <strong>the</strong> resolution. Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f noted <strong>the</strong> Chesapeake City Council adopted <strong>the</strong>
RSTP reallocations <strong>the</strong> previous night and foresees no problems with <strong>the</strong> transfer.
Mr. Shucet suggested that in <strong>the</strong> fourth and sixth “Whereas” clauses, <strong>the</strong> word
“Chesapeake” be inserted in front <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> word “RSTP” to read, “…seeks reprogramming <strong>of</strong>
Chesapeake RSTP funds…” and “…Chesapeake RSTP funds could be applied to <strong>the</strong>
purchase right-<strong>of</strong>-way…” Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f stated <strong>the</strong> new language is acceptable.
Delegate Cosgrove expressed mixed emotions regarding <strong>the</strong> new language. He supported
<strong>the</strong> resolution deeming U.S. Route 17/Dominion Boulevard as a high priority project, yet he
felt <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> was rushing <strong>the</strong> reallocation <strong>of</strong> RSTP funds.
Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f reiterated <strong>the</strong> fact that each day $30,000 is lost to <strong>the</strong> delay <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> project.
Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f restated his motion on <strong>the</strong> floor and Moved for <strong>the</strong> approval <strong>of</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong>
Resolution 2010-08 by <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> supporting <strong>the</strong> U.S. Route 17/Dominion
Boulevard project and utilizing City <strong>of</strong> Chesapeake RSTP funds; seconded by Mr. Shepperd.
The Motion Carried.
Chairman Sessoms stated he had a new business item regarding <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> <strong>meeting</strong>
day. He noted several board members have commented <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> <strong>meeting</strong> is in
conflict with <strong>the</strong> monthly CTB <strong>meeting</strong>. A committee is being formed to discuss a change in
day for <strong>the</strong> monthly <strong>HRTPO</strong> <strong>Board</strong> <strong>meeting</strong>s. Chairman Sessoms asked Mayor Krasn<strong>of</strong>f to
chair <strong>the</strong> committee and he agreed.
Mr. Farmer introduced Ms. Kendall Miller, Public Involvement and Community Outreach
Administrator, for <strong>the</strong> <strong>HRTPO</strong>.
Adjournment
With no fur<strong>the</strong>r business to come before <strong>the</strong> Hampton Roads TPO, <strong>the</strong> <strong>meeting</strong> adjourned
at 12:11 p.m.
Dwight L. Farmer
Executive Director/Secretary
William D. Sessoms, Jr.
Chairman
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