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PRO<strong>OF</strong> ISSN 1322-0330<br />

<strong>RECORD</strong> <strong>OF</strong> <strong>PROCEEDINGS</strong><br />

Hansard Home Page: http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/work-of-assembly/hansard<br />

E-mail: hansard@parliament.qld.gov.au<br />

Phone (07) 3406 7314 Fax (07) 3210 0182<br />

FIRST SESSION <strong>OF</strong> THE FIFTY-FOURTH PARLIAMENT<br />

Thursday, 7 March 2013<br />

Subject<br />

Page<br />

PRIVILEGE ........................................................................................................................................................................... 461<br />

Speaker’s Ruling, Alleged Deliberate Misleading of a Committee by a Minister ........................................... 461<br />

Tabled paper: Correspondence regarding alleged deliberate misleading of a committee by a<br />

minister. ............................................................................................................................................ 461<br />

MOTION <strong>OF</strong> CONDOLENCE ................................................................................................................................................ 461<br />

Prest, Mr WG ..................................................................................................................................................... 461<br />

PETITION .............................................................................................................................................................................. 465<br />

MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS ............................................................................................................................................... 466<br />

Open Data .......................................................................................................................................................... 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Premier, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 ................................ 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development,<br />

Infrastructure and Planning, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2182]. .......................................... 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Treasurer and Minister for Trade, 1 January 2013 to<br />

31 January 2013. .............................................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Health, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ................ 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Education, Training and Employment,<br />

1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Police and Community Safety, 1 January 2013<br />

to 31 January 2013 ........................................................................................................................... 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, 1 January 2013<br />

to 31 January 2013. .......................................................................................................................... 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Transport and Main Roads, 1 January 2013 to<br />

31 January 2013. .............................................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Local Government, 1 January 2013 to<br />

31 January 2013. .............................................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Housing and Public Works, 1 January 2013 to<br />

31 January 2013 . ............................................................................................................................. 466<br />

FS SIMPSON<br />

SPEAKER<br />

NJ LAURIE<br />

CLERK <strong>OF</strong> THE PARLIAMENT<br />

LJ OSMOND<br />

CHIEF HANSARD REPORTER


Table of Contents – Thursday, 7 March 2013<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry,<br />

1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Environment and Heritage Protection,<br />

1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Natural Resources and Mines, 1 January 2013<br />

to 31 January 2013. .......................................................................................................................... 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Energy and Water Supply, 1 January 2013 to<br />

31 January 2013. .............................................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services,<br />

1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Science, Information Technology, Innovation and<br />

the Arts, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ................................................................................... 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for National Parks, Recreation, Sport and Racing,<br />

1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ................................................................................................. 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Tourism, Major Events, Small Business and the<br />

Commonwealth Games, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. .......................................................... 466<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander and<br />

Multicultural Affairs and Minister Assisting the Premier, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013. ........... 466<br />

International Women’s Day ............................................................................................................................... 467<br />

Resource and Regional Town Action Plan ...................................................................................................... 468<br />

Tabled paper: Department of State Development, Infrastructure and Planning—Regional<br />

and Resource Towns Action Plan, March 2013. ................................................................................ 468<br />

Office of Best Practice Regulation ................................................................................................................... 468<br />

Bus Services ...................................................................................................................................................... 469<br />

Tabled paper: Document, dated 11 September 2012, indicating Annerley Labor branch<br />

officebearers. .................................................................................................................................... 470<br />

Western <strong>Queensland</strong> River Systems ................................................................................................................ 470<br />

STATE DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND INDUSTRY COMMITTEE ................................................................... 471<br />

Report ................................................................................................................................................................ 471<br />

Tabled paper: State Development, Infrastructure and Industry Committee: Report No. 19—<br />

Commonwealth Games Arrangements (Brand Protection) Amendment Bill 2013. ............................. 471<br />

LEGAL AFFAIRS AND COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMITTEE .............................................................................................. 471<br />

Report ................................................................................................................................................................ 471<br />

Tabled paper: Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee: Report No. 23—Criminal<br />

Law (Child Exploitation and Dangerous Drugs) Amendment Bill 2012. .............................................. 471<br />

NOTICES <strong>OF</strong> MOTION .......................................................................................................................................................... 472<br />

Disallowance of Statutory Instrument .............................................................................................................. 472<br />

Disallowance of Statutory Instrument .............................................................................................................. 472<br />

SPEAKER’S STATEMENT .................................................................................................................................................... 472<br />

School Group Tours .......................................................................................................................................... 472<br />

QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE .......................................................................................................................................... 472<br />

Costello, Mr P .................................................................................................................................................... 472<br />

Conflict of Interest, Costello, Mr P ................................................................................................................... 473<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Plan ............................................................................................................................................... 473<br />

Member for Redcliffe ......................................................................................................................................... 474<br />

Brisbane Airport ................................................................................................................................................ 475<br />

Tabled paper: Twitter extracts #bnelateagain regarding the Brisbane Airport. ................................... 475<br />

Health Services .................................................................................................................................................. 475<br />

Tabled paper: Australian Electoral Commission—details of Donor Annual Return 2011-12—<br />

Paul Ramsay Holdings Pty Ltd and Ramsay Health Care Ltd............................................................ 475<br />

Commission of Audit ........................................................................................................................................ 476<br />

Commission of Audit ........................................................................................................................................ 477<br />

Ministerial Diaries .............................................................................................................................................. 478<br />

Gold Coast, Tourism ......................................................................................................................................... 479<br />

Council Amalgamation, Vote ............................................................................................................................ 479<br />

Government Administrative Precinct, Redevelopment ................................................................................... 480<br />

Green-Tape Reduction ...................................................................................................................................... 481<br />

Hospital and Health Boards .............................................................................................................................. 481<br />

Crime and Misconduct Commission Inquiry ................................................................................................... 482<br />

Indigenous Communities, Safety ..................................................................................................................... 483<br />

Health, Federal Funding .................................................................................................................................... 484<br />

PARLIAMENTARY CRIME AND MISCONDUCT COMMITTEE ............................................................................................ 484<br />

Report, Motion to Take Note ............................................................................................................................. 484<br />

QUEENSLAND MENTAL HEALTH COMMISSION BILL ...................................................................................................... 489<br />

Second Reading ................................................................................................................................................ 489<br />

PRIVATE MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS ................................................................................................................................... 501<br />

Police Citizens Youth Club ............................................................................................................................... 501<br />

Colleges Crossing ............................................................................................................................................. 501<br />

PARLIAMENTARY CRIME AND MISCONDUCT COMMITTEE ............................................................................................ 502<br />

Documents ......................................................................................................................................................... 502<br />

PRIVATE MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS ................................................................................................................................... 503<br />

Whiskey Au Go Go Nightclub ........................................................................................................................... 503<br />

Petrie, Amcor Cartonboard Mill ........................................................................................................................ 504<br />

Woodridge ......................................................................................................................................................... 505


Table of Contents – Thursday, 7 March 2013<br />

Mundingburra Electorate, Youth Crime ........................................................................................................... 505<br />

Public Transport, Buses ................................................................................................................................... 506<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Plan ............................................................................................................................................... 507<br />

South-East <strong>Queensland</strong>, Waterways ................................................................................................................ 507<br />

Beaudesert Electorate, Schools ....................................................................................................................... 508<br />

Mills, Lt Cmdr CA, OAM, RFD ........................................................................................................................... 509<br />

Rugby League ................................................................................................................................................... 509<br />

Algester Electorate, Schools ............................................................................................................................ 510<br />

Blyth, Ms D, AO ................................................................................................................................................. 510<br />

Beenleigh Rotary Club, 60th Anniversary ....................................................................................................... 511<br />

Hicks, Mrs L ....................................................................................................................................................... 511<br />

International Women’s Day .............................................................................................................................. 512<br />

Positive pARTnerships Program ...................................................................................................................... 513<br />

Southport Electorate, International Women’s Day .......................................................................................... 513<br />

Mama Rene’s ..................................................................................................................................................... 514<br />

Ambulance Services ......................................................................................................................................... 515<br />

Palos Family ...................................................................................................................................................... 515<br />

Tablelands Regional Council, Draft Planning Scheme ................................................................................... 516<br />

Morayfield Electorate, SES and Rural Fire Brigade Volunteers ..................................................................... 516<br />

Maryborough Hospital, Rehabilitation Unit ..................................................................................................... 517<br />

Pease Park (Innisfail Showgrounds), Dedicated Power Supply ..................................................................... 517<br />

Fuel Theft; International Women’s Day............................................................................................................ 518<br />

Gillard Government ........................................................................................................................................... 519<br />

Seniors Online Security Forum ........................................................................................................................ 519<br />

Gympie, Floods Events ..................................................................................................................................... 520<br />

LAND PROTECTION LEGISLATION (FLYING FOX CONTROL) AMENDMENT BILL ......................................................... 521<br />

Portfolio Committee Report, Government Response ..................................................................................... 521<br />

Tabled paper: Agriculture, Resources and Environment Committee: Report No. 14—<br />

Land Protection Legislation (Flying fox Control) Amendment Bill 2012, government response. ......... 521<br />

PRIVILEGE ........................................................................................................................................................................... 521<br />

Alleged Deliberate Misleading of the House by the Premier .......................................................................... 521<br />

MINISTERIAL STATEMENT ................................................................................................................................................. 521<br />

Error in Ministerial Statement........................................................................................................................... 521<br />

QUEENSLAND MENTAL HEALTH COMMISSION BILL ...................................................................................................... 522<br />

Second Reading ................................................................................................................................................ 522<br />

Consideration in Detail ..................................................................................................................................... 525<br />

Clauses 1 to 7, as read, agreed to. ................................................................................................... 525<br />

Clauses 8 to 13, as read, agreed to. ................................................................................................. 527<br />

Clauses 14 to 60, as read, agreed to. ............................................................................................... 527<br />

Clauses 61 to 64— ........................................................................................................................... 527<br />

Tabled paper: <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Bill 2012, explanatory notes to<br />

Hon. Lawrence Springborg’s amendments. ...................................................................................... 527<br />

Division: Question put—That the amendments be agreed to. ........................................................... 528<br />

Resolved in the affirmative................................................................................................................ 528<br />

Clauses 61 to 64, as amended, agreed to. ....................................................................................... 529<br />

Clauses 65 to 69, as read, agreed to. ............................................................................................... 529<br />

Clauses 70 to 72, as read, agreed to. ............................................................................................... 531<br />

Clause 73, as read, agreed to. .......................................................................................................... 532<br />

Clause 74, as read, agreed to. .......................................................................................................... 532<br />

Clause 75, as read, agreed to. .......................................................................................................... 533<br />

Clauses 76 to 79, as read, agreed to. ............................................................................................... 533<br />

Schedule, as read, agreed to. ........................................................................................................... 533<br />

Third Reading .................................................................................................................................................... 533<br />

Long Title ........................................................................................................................................................... 533<br />

MOTION ................................................................................................................................................................................ 533<br />

Sessional Orders ............................................................................................................................................... 533<br />

COMMERCIAL ARBITRATION BILL .................................................................................................................................... 533<br />

Second Reading ................................................................................................................................................ 533<br />

Tabled paper: Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee: Report No. 19—Commercial<br />

Arbitration Bill, government response. .............................................................................................. 533<br />

MINISTERIAL STATEMENT ................................................................................................................................................. 546<br />

Crime and Misconduct Commission ................................................................................................................ 546<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, from the Chair of the Crime and Misconduct<br />

Commission, Mr Ross Martin to the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie,<br />

regarding the release of documents in relation to the Fitzgerald Inquiry that should not have<br />

been made public. ............................................................................................................................ 548<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, from the Attorney-General and Minister for<br />

Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, to the chair of the Crime and Misconduct Commission,<br />

Mr Ross Martin, regarding the release of documents in relation to the Fitzgerald inquiry that<br />

should not have been made public. .................................................................................................. 548


Table of Contents – Thursday, 7 March 2013<br />

COMMERCIAL ARBITRATION BILL .................................................................................................................................... 548<br />

Second Reading ................................................................................................................................................ 548<br />

Consideration in Detail...................................................................................................................................... 571<br />

Clauses 1AA to 43, as read, agreed to. ............................................................................................. 571<br />

Schedule 1, as read, agreed to. ........................................................................................................ 571<br />

Third Reading .................................................................................................................................................... 571<br />

Long Title ........................................................................................................................................................... 572<br />

BODY CORPORATE AND COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT AND OTHER LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL .................... 572<br />

Second Reading ................................................................................................................................................ 572<br />

CRIME AND MISCONDUCT COMMISSION (ADMINISTRATIVE NEGLIGENCE RECTIFICATION) AMENDMENT BILL .... 604<br />

Introduction ....................................................................................................................................................... 604<br />

Tabled paper: Crime and Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence Rectification)<br />

Amendment Bill 2013. ....................................................................................................................... 604<br />

Tabled paper: Crime and Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence Rectification)<br />

Amendment Bill 2013, explanatory notes. ......................................................................................... 604<br />

First Reading ..................................................................................................................................................... 605<br />

Declared Urgent; Allocation of Time Limit Order ............................................................................................ 605<br />

Second Reading ................................................................................................................................................ 605<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 6 March 2013, to the Attorney-General and Minister for<br />

Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, from the chair of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct<br />

Committee, Mrs Liz Cunningham MP, regarding a request for urgent legislation in relation<br />

to released Fitzgerald inquiry documents. ......................................................................................... 607<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, to the chair of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and<br />

Misconduct Committee, Mrs Liz Cunningham MP, from the Attorney-General and Minister<br />

for Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, regarding a request for urgent legislation in relation to<br />

released Fitzgerald inquiry documents .............................................................................................. 607<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, to the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice,<br />

Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, from the chair of the Crime and Misconduct Committee, Mr Ross Martin,<br />

regarding a request for urgent legislation in relation to released Fitzgerald inquiry documents. ......... 610<br />

Consideration in Detail...................................................................................................................................... 614<br />

Clauses 1 to 3, as read, agreed to. ................................................................................................... 614<br />

Clause 4, as read, agreed to. ............................................................................................................ 615<br />

Third Reading .................................................................................................................................................... 615<br />

Long Title ........................................................................................................................................................... 615<br />

MOTION ................................................................................................................................................................................ 616<br />

Referral to the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee .................................................................. 616<br />

SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT ................................................................................................................................................... 618<br />

ADJOURNMENT ................................................................................................................................................................... 618<br />

Coronial Inquest, Arnold, Ms V and Leahy, Mrs J ........................................................................................... 618<br />

International Women’s Day ............................................................................................................................... 619<br />

Burnett Electorate, Casual Labour ................................................................................................................... 619<br />

Tabled paper: Document titled ‘Horticultural Industry Concerns and Abuses’, dated<br />

28 November 2012. .......................................................................................................................... 619<br />

Natural Disaster Events of 2013; International Women’s Day ........................................................................ 620<br />

Great Keppel Island, Resort .............................................................................................................................. 621<br />

Clean Up Australia Day ..................................................................................................................................... 621<br />

North <strong>Queensland</strong>, Rail Contractors ................................................................................................................ 622<br />

Australian Sprintcar Championship ................................................................................................................. 622<br />

Newman Government ........................................................................................................................................ 623<br />

HeartKids <strong>Queensland</strong> ...................................................................................................................................... 624<br />

ATTENDANCE ...................................................................................................................................................................... 624


7 Mar 2013 Legislative Assembly 461<br />

THURSDAY, 7 MARCH 2013<br />

The Legislative Assembly met at 9.30 am.<br />

Madam Speaker (Hon. Fiona Simpson, Maroochydore) read prayers and took the chair.<br />

PRIVILEGE<br />

Speaker’s Ruling, Alleged Deliberate Misleading of a Committee by a Minister<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Honourable members, on 5 December 2012 the Leader of the Opposition<br />

wrote to me alleging that the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice deliberately misled the House<br />

in statements made during estimates hearings held on 11 October 2012. In accordance with standing<br />

order 269(5), I wrote requesting further information from the Attorney-General and Minister for<br />

Justice. I table the correspondence in this matter, including a response from the Attorney-General<br />

dated 20 December 2012.<br />

Tabled paper: Correspondence regarding alleged deliberate misleading of a committee by a minister [2179].<br />

The Leader of the Opposition claims that the Attorney-General misled estimates in answer to a<br />

question on notice about the number of complaints about transcripts by the State Reporting Bureau.<br />

This allegation has arisen due to what the Leader of the Opposition believes to be a discrepancy<br />

between the answer to a question on notice made on 11 October 2012, in which the Attorney-General<br />

said there were three written complaints, and a result of a right to information request made on<br />

22 October 2012 to the Attorney-General’s ministerial office which indicated that no such documents<br />

were held there.<br />

The Attorney-General, in his response to the matter of privilege, has detailed that the<br />

information requested was held in the department of justice’s office and not in the ministerial office to<br />

which the RTI applied. On the evidence before me, there is no prima facie case of deliberately<br />

misleading the House or a committee. I will not be referring the matter.<br />

MOTION <strong>OF</strong> CONDOLENCE<br />

Prest, Mr WG<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) (Leader of the Opposition) (9.33 am): The description ‘Labor<br />

Party stalwart’ is often used and, in the case of Bill Prest, is a well-deserved description of a humble,<br />

hardworking and caring man who gave everything to his family and community. William George Prest,<br />

or Bill, is a Labor stalwart in the truest sense of the term. He served as the Labor member for Port<br />

Curtis for 16 years, from 1976 to 1992. Prior to that he had a long and distinguished career in local<br />

government where he rose to become the mayor of Gladstone City Council.<br />

Bill was born on 2 April 1926 in Longreach. His early life was touched by hardship, as was all<br />

too common in the 1920s. His mother passed away when he was only 12 months old and<br />

subsequently he and his siblings were raised by his mother’s sister and her husband. Of course times<br />

were difficult in the Depression years in rural <strong>Queensland</strong> and Bill had to leave school at 13 to support<br />

his family, as so many young men and women did at that time. He worked as a butcher, in the post<br />

office, as a grocer and finally as a shearer before he started working for the railways at the age of 21.<br />

He was transferred to work in various towns across <strong>Queensland</strong> before finally being sent to<br />

Gladstone, where he would meet his wife, Pat, the daughter of a publican. Bill and Pat were married<br />

in 1953—on election day—and a private function was held at Pat’s father’s pub so that it would not<br />

have to lose a day’s trading because of the election.<br />

Bill was passionate about his local community from the very beginning. Once settled in<br />

Gladstone, he immersed himself in work for the local school P&C, helping to develop the oval and to<br />

plant new gardens in place of red dust and dirt. In 1970 he first stood for public office with the then<br />

Gladstone Town Council—21 candidates stood for six positions and Bill was elected sixth, beginning<br />

a dedicated career as an elected official that would last for 22 years.


462 Motion of Condolence 7 Mar 2013<br />

Bill became deputy mayor in 1973 after being returned at the election as the highest polling<br />

alderman. Surely this was a sign of how quickly he had made his mark through his hard work and<br />

down-to-earth nature. In 1975 Bill was appointed mayor when the previous mayor resigned. Then,<br />

when Gladstone changed from a town to a city, he became the first mayor of the new Gladstone City<br />

Council. As mayor he oversaw the construction of new water infrastructure, sewerage, kerbing and<br />

the beautification of the city. All through this time he still worked at the railways doing split shifts<br />

around council meetings. For a man so dedicated to his family, juggling his work at the council and<br />

with <strong>Queensland</strong> Rail must have been very difficult. But higher office beckoned, and Bill contested a<br />

by-election for the seat of Port Curtis in 1976 after the death of the Labor sitting member, Marty<br />

Hanson.<br />

Bill served many difficult years in opposition, and when the Goss government was elected in<br />

1989 he became the government whip. Bill was an ideal whip. When he needed to be tough he was<br />

tough, but he also had a gentle side. My father served in parliament with Bill from 1984 to 1992. I<br />

know from stories my father Henry has told me just how entertaining Bill could be as a person but<br />

also how much he genuinely cared about others. When I asked Henry what were his enduring<br />

memories of Bill, he said that behind the bluff and bluster there was a very kind-hearted man. As I<br />

said, he was the whip in the Goss government. According to Henry, he took the backbench under his<br />

wing as if they were his own family. When Judy Spence, who was a new backbencher at the time,<br />

gave birth to son Jack, Bill would ensure that she could leave parliament at a reasonable hour to be<br />

with him. This was even to the extent of taking her place in the chamber on roster himself.<br />

He was very passionate about his electorate of Port Curtis and the community of Gladstone.<br />

He was an old-style Labor politician, following in the steps of men like Ben Chifley, who came to the<br />

parliament from a working life in the railways. The one thing that could be said of Bill—and I think that<br />

this would be the one thing all of us in the House would want people to say of us when we leave this<br />

place—was that you could always trust what he said. Bill loved his family, especially his kids and<br />

grandchildren. At his funeral his son, Darryl, and former member for Rockhampton, Robert<br />

Schwarten, both remarked that whenever Bill was with kids he would be able to produce a handful of<br />

lollies to keep them entertained.<br />

Bill’s long career in elected office shows just how well respected and known he was throughout<br />

his community. His service over many years in state parliament and in local government revealed a<br />

dedication and a desire to put others first and to make the Gladstone community, and <strong>Queensland</strong> as<br />

a whole, a better place. His is an example of what we should all aspire to. I would like to take this<br />

opportunity to pass on my condolences to Bill’s family and friends, especially his wife, Pat; his three<br />

children, Darryl, Patricia and Elizabeth; his eight grandchildren; and his great-grandchild. My thoughts<br />

and prayers go out to them today.<br />

Hon. CKT NEWMAN (Ashgrove—LNP) (Premier) (9.38 am): William George Prest, better<br />

known to all who knew him as Bill, was born in Longreach on 2 April 1926, and was educated at the<br />

Longreach State School. After leaving school Mr Prest took up employment as a general store worker<br />

before turning his hand to shearing across large parts of Central <strong>Queensland</strong>. In 1947 Mr Prest joined<br />

the <strong>Queensland</strong> Government Railways and worked for many years on the railways as a guard. During<br />

this time, he was a delegate of the Australian Railways Union and also became involved with the<br />

Australian Labor Party, serving as president of the Gladstone branch of the ALP from 1965 to 1976.<br />

In 1970 Mr Prest was elected as an alderman on the Gladstone City Council. During his time<br />

on the council he rose to become deputy mayor and then took the top position of mayor in September<br />

1975. I understand that Mr Prest will forever be noted in the history books of Gladstone as being the<br />

last mayor of the town of Gladstone and then its first mayor when Gladstone became a city.<br />

In February 1976 the longstanding member for Port Curtis, based in the Gladstone area, and<br />

ALP representative, Martin Hanson, resigned from the <strong>Queensland</strong> parliament. Mr Prest was selected<br />

by the ALP to contest the Port Curtis by-election, and on 29 May 1976 he was elected to this House.<br />

Following his election, Mr Prest resigned as mayor of Gladstone City Council and went on to serve as<br />

the member for Port Curtis until he decided to retire at the state election of September 1992.<br />

During his time in the parliament, Mr Prest served in many parliamentary positions. He was a<br />

member of a number of parliamentary committees from 1977 to 1989. He was leader of opposition<br />

business in the House from 1981 to 1982 and 1983 to 1989. He was a temporary chairman of


7 Mar 2013 Motion of Condolence 463<br />

committees from 1987 to 1989 and was a member of a parliamentary delegation to the Solomon<br />

Islands, Papua New Guinea, Japan and South-East Asia in 1979. Mr Prest also served as opposition<br />

spokesman on numerous ministerial portfolios from 1976 to 1983 including the portfolios of railways<br />

and local government, which of course he had a good firsthand knowledge of given his working<br />

background.<br />

Following the election of the Goss government in 1989, Mr Prest became government whip in<br />

the first ALP government in this state in 32 years. I am sure that this would have been a very proud<br />

moment for Mr Prest after having served many years in parliament in opposition. Mr Prest continued<br />

to serve as government whip until his retirement from the parliament in September 1992. William<br />

George Prest passed away peacefully on 8 December 2012 and a funeral service to celebrate his life<br />

was held at Our Lady Star of the Sea Catholic Church, Herbert Street, Gladstone on 12 December<br />

2012.<br />

I place on record the government’s thanks for the years of service Mr Prest gave to the<br />

institutions of our democracy and to the <strong>Queensland</strong> community. I particularly note that he is clearly<br />

one of the old guard of the Australian Labor Party—someone with a solid, working-class background<br />

who was at the front line as a shearer and a railway man. I have always had great respect for those<br />

sort of knockabout people with that sort of background.<br />

On behalf of the government, I take this opportunity to extend my sympathy and that of the<br />

House to Mr Prest’s family and friends. I move—<br />

1. That this House desires to place on record its appreciation of the services rendered to this state by the late William<br />

George Prest, a former member of the parliament of <strong>Queensland</strong>, and<br />

2. That Madam Speaker be requested to convey to the family of the deceased gentleman the above resolution together<br />

with an expression of the sympathy and sorrow of the members of this parliament on the loss that they have sustained.<br />

Mr MULHERIN (Mackay—ALP) (Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (9.43 am): I wish to join the<br />

opposition leader in expressing my condolences to the family and friends of Bill Prest, who passed<br />

away on 8 December last year. I attended his funeral on 12 December 2012 along with the member<br />

for Gladstone, Liz Cunningham. William George Prest, or Bill, served as the Labor member for Port<br />

Curtis for 16 years from 1976 to 1992. He is also remembered for his time as Gladstone mayor and<br />

as a member of the Gladstone Harbour Board.<br />

Prior to his election, he worked in a number of jobs in the shearing industry before working for<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Rail as a guard. Bill was born in Longreach, and his humble beginnings instilled in him a<br />

desire to seek public office to represent and help working-class <strong>Queensland</strong>ers. He saw that the only<br />

way circumstances would change for his fellow workers was if they had a representative in parliament<br />

to advocate on their behalf.<br />

Bill was passionate and unapologetic for his principled stance on many issues and was<br />

unafraid to voice his opinions regardless of what others thought. He was elected in a 1976 by-election<br />

as a result of the sudden death of the previous member and another Labor stalwart, Marty Hanson.<br />

Bill was immediately thrust onto the front bench of the Labor opposition, joining the legendary cricket<br />

team led by Tom Burns. He served as government whip in the Goss government and did a formidable<br />

job of rounding up recalcitrant members for votes. In a tribute to Bill read out at his funeral, Wayne<br />

Goss highlighted Bill’s reliability and dedication to the role of whip, which was exactly what was<br />

needed to oversee the huge parliamentary reform agenda undertaken by the Goss government with<br />

many parliament days sitting well into the night.<br />

Bill was also a passionate advocate and promoter of the Gladstone region. His service to his<br />

local community was recognised in 2010 when the Gladstone port access bridge was named in his<br />

honour. His service was well attended by family and friends, some of whom travelled long distances<br />

to pay their respects. His son, Darryl, spoke at the funeral about his generous and caring father who<br />

was devoted to his family and of his great love for his grandchildren. Robert Schwarten, who knew Bill<br />

for more than 40 years, also spoke at the funeral. He spoke of a true Labor bloke who served in<br />

parliament to make a positive difference in people’s lives. He spoke of his dedication to Labor<br />

principles and his commitment to helping working-class people. Bill is survived by his wife, Pat, who<br />

was his lifelong love, and the support base of his children. My thoughts and prayers go out to his<br />

family.


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Mrs CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—Ind) (9.46 am): In making these comments, I acknowledge<br />

the assistance of Bill’s son, Darryl, in providing much of this information. Some of it has already been<br />

said, I must say. William George Prest—or ‘Bill’, ‘Hammey’, ‘Daddy Bill’, ‘Dad’ or ‘Pop—is survived by<br />

his wife, Pat, and three children—Pat, or Trish, and husband Ken; Darryl and wife Kerry; and<br />

Elizabeth, or Liz, and husband Rohan. He has eight grandchildren—Anthony, Cameron, Nathan,<br />

Graham, Cole, India, Jett and Paris—and one great-grandchild, Eliza.<br />

Bill was born on 2 April 1926 in Longreach to William Fredrick and Amelia Maud. Bill had an<br />

older brother, George, and an older sister, Bubba. When Bill was 12 months old, their mother died<br />

and their father, William, a meatworker, wandered off. Bill’s aunt Sue and her husband, Tom<br />

Faulkner, who already had a daughter, Amelia, took to raising Bubba and Bill. As has been said,<br />

times were tough with the Depression years passing and the war years approaching. He went to<br />

Longreach State School and, along with many at that time, left school at 13 to begin working to assist<br />

the family. His jobs have been already mentioned. He worked as a butcher, at the post office, at the<br />

grocery store and in shearing sheds before landing a job at the age of 21 with <strong>Queensland</strong> Rail.<br />

He was transferred to a lot of places including Hughenden, Blair Athol and Baralaba, but when<br />

at 23 he was transferred to Gladstone with <strong>Queensland</strong> Rail many of his friends said he would not last<br />

in Gladstone because he would miss the bush too much. He proved them wrong. While in Gladstone,<br />

Bill met his future wife, Pat Rabbitt, a daughter of the publican at the Queens Hotel. They were<br />

married on 9 May. Pop Rabbitt, ever the businessman—and I never met this gentleman—did not want<br />

to lose a day’s trade by having to close the pub on election day so it was decided they should get<br />

married on election day, and the function meant the pub could operate until polling shut at six o’clock.<br />

Maybe it was an omen of things to come, Darryl said—dad and elections.<br />

Between May 1954 when they moved into 3 Lord Street, which was his lifelong home in<br />

Gladstone, and August 1964, Bill and Pat’s family was born and Bill’s involvement with the P&C at<br />

Central School commenced. He used to hand out at Central State School even after his retirement. It<br />

was always Central State School that you would see Bill handing out for Labor. He always had a radio<br />

by his side. On Saturday mornings he listened to the latest scratchings and in the afternoons he<br />

listened to the races and the Sunday football. He would listen to see whether the game was<br />

worthwhile watching on tele. His comment after the game would be, ‘Good to see the Norths got up,’<br />

because it spoiled it for anyone who wanted to watch the game that night.<br />

As has been said, Bill stood for the council in 1970 and was successful in gaining one of the six<br />

positions. In 1973 he was elected as the highest polling alderman and then became deputy mayor<br />

and replaced Roy Swenson as mayor when Roy resigned and became town clerk. It has already<br />

been noted that Bill then moved to the seat of Port Curtis on the passing of Marty Hanson. I can still<br />

remember Bill opposing the name change for the electorate from Port Curtis to Gladstone. His<br />

opposition was not because he was not proud of Gladstone but because he felt, as I do, that Port<br />

Curtis better reflected the electorate. He resigned from his other positions and took on a full-time<br />

position as MLA for Port Curtis.<br />

Bill was always one for nursing babies. With Bill and Pat’s brothers and sisters, there were<br />

always babies to nurse. He was always present at school sports days, grandfathers days and award<br />

presentations. He attended them not necessarily as just the MLA but also as a grandad seeing how<br />

the grandkids were going. He attended school fetes, presentation dinners and sporting events as part<br />

of the job and to listen to what the community needed to tell him.<br />

He had a good singing voice. I do not know if he sang down here although I believe he did in<br />

the lifts. Often people at seniors events—not without a great deal of effort—would get Bill up on the<br />

stage to sing. At the end of the event he was always found in the kitchen washing or wiping up.<br />

Bill had a love of racing. He owned trotters. At one stage he owned the fastest—this is what I<br />

am told; Darryl would tell me the truth—racehorse in Central <strong>Queensland</strong>. It was too fast to race in<br />

Gladstone so they said, ‘Let’s take it to Rocky.’ Its track work was too good for Rocky. They said, ‘We<br />

won’t get the odds. Let’s take it to Brisbane.’ Alas the horse bit off half its tongue and they could not<br />

put a bit in its mouth to train it. So the fastest horse from Central <strong>Queensland</strong> never raced. True story!<br />

Bill was not wealthy when he retired but he wanted for nothing. If the grandchildren were<br />

coming to visit he was happy. Many a day was spent baking strawberry or caramel tarts, sausage<br />

rolls or biscuits with Pat. There was always something there for the kids to eat. Darryl said his sons<br />

remember the strawberry Quik in Bill’s office or the soft drinks in the downstairs fridge. The boys and<br />

their friends always knew there would be a feed and a cold drink at pop’s.


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He was not one to push for photos in the paper or names on buildings, but recently a men’s<br />

accommodation building and, as has already been stated, the bridge over the railway line for ‘route B’<br />

were named after him. He said he accepted these not for himself but so his grandchildren could see<br />

that people appreciated what their pop had done for the community.<br />

Bill was an ordinary man with down-to-earth values and was extremely generous to all the<br />

children and grandchildren along with his wife of 59 years, Pat. His family was the love of his life.<br />

From humble beginnings to a humble end, he was an ordinary man who achieved extraordinary<br />

things for the Gladstone community and, most importantly, for his family. On behalf of the Gladstone<br />

community I would like to thank Bill Prest for his service to the people of Gladstone and district. May<br />

he rest in peace.<br />

Mr JOHNSON (Gregory—LNP) (9.52 am): I rise today to speak to the passing of William<br />

George Prest, the former member for Port Curtis. He was born on 2 April 1926 and passed away on 8<br />

December 2012. I think the Leader of the Opposition summarised it very well as did the member for<br />

Gladstone, the Premier and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition in relation to some of the attributes<br />

of Bill Prest.<br />

I came into this place in 1989 and I think there is now only one other member, the member for<br />

Warrego, who served in this chamber while Bill Prest was also here. He was a larger than life<br />

character. He was a colourful character but the part I admired most about Bill Prest was that he was<br />

the last of the true, real Labor people. He was a Labor stalwart to his back teeth and he was a man<br />

who was fiercely proud of his Labor traditions.<br />

Born in Longreach, he grew up in a working-class family and entered the shearing industry<br />

where he started his working career. As the Leader of the Opposition said, from there he went on to<br />

be a <strong>Queensland</strong> Rail employee for many years before moving to Gladstone.<br />

Bill Prest held the position that I hold today; he was the chief whip of the then Goss<br />

government. Many of the members were absolutely bloody terrified of him. I hope that is not the case<br />

with me! The government members of the day used to refer to it as the ‘Bill Prest charm school’. I do<br />

not think Annastacia went far enough this morning. Her father probably told her more about Bill than<br />

she was letting on. However, he was a colourful character. He was one of those blokes who said what<br />

he thought and meant what he said. I think he drove that bargain wherever he was.<br />

As member for Gladstone from 1976 to 1992, he certainly made his mark, as the member for<br />

Gladstone said. He also made his mark during his term as the mayor of Gladstone on the Gladstone<br />

Town Council and then Gladstone City Council. When Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen went to Gladstone<br />

when it became a city, Bill was the mayor of the city.<br />

I put on record today my condolences to his wife, Patricia, and to his surviving children,<br />

grandchildren and great-grandchildren. May he rest in peace.<br />

Question put—That the motion be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Whereupon honourable members stood in silence.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Question time will begin at 10.25 am.<br />

PETITION<br />

The Clerk presented the following paper petition, lodged by the honourable member indicated—<br />

Bus Service, Route Closures<br />

Ms Trad, from 801 petitioners, requesting the House to stop the planned closure of the following bus services: 220 Wynnum to<br />

City; 225 Wynnum to Carindale; 240 Capalaba to Wynnum; city express 214 Cannon Hill to city and 232 Cannon Hill to city<br />

[2180].<br />

Petition received.


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MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS<br />

Open Data<br />

Hon. CKT NEWMAN (Ashgrove—LNP) (Premier) (9.57 am): My government is an open and<br />

accountable government, a commitment demonstrated by our open data initiative. Information that<br />

has never been seen in <strong>Queensland</strong> before is now being released for the public to analyse. Yesterday<br />

I gave some detail about how many data sets we have made available and how <strong>Queensland</strong>ers can<br />

have their say on how that information is used both now and into the future.<br />

Today this government is setting a new standard in transparency by releasing my diary and the<br />

diaries of all cabinet ministers. I am not aware of an Australian Prime Minister or, indeed, Premier<br />

ever having made their diary and those of their ministers publicly available in this way. Of course, it<br />

has been done overseas such as in the UK where David Cameron releases his diary. Prime Minister<br />

Cameron says he wants to bring the operation of government out into the open. We share those<br />

same values and have reflected the UK model in the how, why and when we go about releasing this<br />

information.<br />

So today I table here in the parliament my diary for January, along with the diaries of all of my<br />

ministers. This document outlines all portfolio related meetings and activities from official diaries, and<br />

I have to say that I am impressed to see how hard the ministry has been working, especially<br />

considering that this is for the month of January.<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Premier, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2181].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development, Infrastructure and Planning, 1 January<br />

2013 to 31 January 2013 [2182].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Treasurer and Minister for Trade, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2183].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Health, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2184].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Education, Training and Employment, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2185].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Police and Community Safety, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2186].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2187].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Transport and Main Roads, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2188].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Local Government, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2189].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Housing and Public Works, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2190].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2191].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Environment and Heritage Protection, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2192].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Natural Resources and Mines, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2193].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Energy and Water Supply, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2194].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services, 1 January 2013 to 31 January<br />

2013 [2195].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Science, Information Technology, Innovation and the Arts, 1 January 2013 to 31<br />

January 2013 [2196].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for National Parks, Recreation, Sport and Racing, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013<br />

[2197].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Tourism, Major Events, Small Business and the Commonwealth Games, 1 January<br />

2013 to 31 January 2013 [2198].<br />

Tabled paper: Ministerial diary—Minister for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander and Multicultural Affairs and Minister Assisting<br />

the Premier, 1 January 2013 to 31 January 2013 [2199].<br />

Ms Palaszczuk: Well, they’re not reading the Costello report!<br />

Mr NEWMAN: I will come to her in a moment. We have said for some time that we will be<br />

doing this. We have had to work through the privacy issues, which is why they are being tabled here<br />

today. In the future they will go straight online one month at a time. Isn’t it a refreshing change to have<br />

this information fully available to the public? This is an open government that has nothing to hide. It is<br />

a shame that the Labor Party did not share these values—these same values—while in government<br />

and it is disappointing that the Leader of the Opposition will not do the same thing now. She simply<br />

will not tell the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> who she is meeting with. Today I urge her once again to be<br />

open, accountable and transparent. What does she have to hide? What does the Leader of the<br />

Opposition have to hide? We do not know where their registers of contacts with lobbyists have gone<br />

from when they were in office. We do not know who they met with in relation to the Health payroll


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system. We do not know who they met with in relation to the privatisation of QR or the privatisation of<br />

the Port of Brisbane. We do not know what lobbyists came through the door because it is a big, dark,<br />

black Labor secret.<br />

The information I have tabled today is the information that the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> deserve to<br />

see—and under this government, in contrast with the Labor Party, they will see. For the first time they<br />

will be able to see how the machinery of government operates and have confidence that the high<br />

standards we have set are being followed. They will be able to hold us to account and they will be<br />

able to provide informed feedback on the way we are governing as we work hard to get this state—a<br />

great state with great opportunity—back on track.<br />

International Women’s Day<br />

Hon. CKT NEWMAN (Ashgrove—LNP) (Premier) (10.01 am): The opportunities that are<br />

available to women in today’s society are vast and unlimited. In the early 1900s women were exposed<br />

to social unrest and inequality. Women hastened on, however, with 15,000 of them marching through<br />

the streets of New York in 1908 demanding shorter hours, better pay and voting rights. In 1909 the<br />

first National Women’s Day was held in America and from there the movement has grown. Their<br />

dedication to have a voice has meant that women today have every opportunity available to them and<br />

we are now seeing a significant change in attitude and awareness on women’s role, participation and<br />

equality within society.<br />

Tomorrow we celebrate International Women’s Day and I encourage every member in this<br />

House to get involved to mark this auspicious day. Across the globe we see different regions<br />

celebrating the cause of women in many different ways—from appreciation, love and respect to the<br />

celebration of women’s economic, political and social achievements. This government has committed<br />

to a number of initiatives to support women in <strong>Queensland</strong>. We have our $10 million scholarships for<br />

women studying in male dominated industries. The first round saw 141 of the scholarships being<br />

offered in December last year. With 27 women changing careers, 25 looking to return to study and 89<br />

as school leavers, it is very encouraging to see and the <strong>Queensland</strong> government is proud to be<br />

supporting them through this scholarships initiative.<br />

We began rolling out the Mums and Bubs program earlier this year to support new mothers and<br />

give the best possible start to their new families. Yesterday we announced a ministerial advisory<br />

committee as a way to deliver a plan to identify opportunities to encourage more females to be<br />

involved in sport. More and more we see women everywhere stepping up into the limelight into those<br />

leadership roles. We have a number of <strong>Queensland</strong> women nominated for the Rural Industries<br />

Research and Development Corporation Rural Women’s Award, and that is outstanding. We have the<br />

contributions from a broad range of backgrounds and experiences from the women who sit with me in<br />

this chamber. Madam Speaker, we see you performing as the first female Speaker for <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

and I congratulate you on this unparalleled accomplishment in the history of <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

I want to note today that our predecessor parties have a proud track record in this area of<br />

women’s achievements. Dame Enid Lyons, a great hero of my late father and indeed my mother, was<br />

the first woman elected to the Commonwealth House of Representatives and the first woman in<br />

federal cabinet. Irene Longman was <strong>Queensland</strong>’s first female parliamentarian, winning the seat of<br />

Bulimba in 1929 for the Country and Progressive National Party. Sallyanne Atkinson was the first<br />

female Lord Mayor of Brisbane elected in 1985. In 1991 Joan Sheldon became the first female Liberal<br />

Party Leader in <strong>Queensland</strong> and of course went on to be Deputy Premier and Treasurer. I am proud<br />

of my own mother, Senator Jocelyn Newman, who entered parliament in 1986 and served firstly in<br />

opposition in various shadow ministry positions and then was the family and community services<br />

minister but particularly minister assisting the Prime Minister, John Howard, for the status of women.<br />

I personally am just so lucky to be surrounded by three beautiful, strong, independent women<br />

at home, and I am thankful for every opportunity available to them. Me and the dog are the only males<br />

in the household!<br />

A government member: And you’re often with the dog!<br />

Mr NEWMAN: Luckily, I have never had to share the doghouse with him! I am particularly<br />

thrilled to note that my youngest child has just decided to enter a previously male dominated field, and<br />

that is my own original training as a civil engineer.


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I am also looking forward to hosting an event in celebration of this important day in my<br />

electorate of Ashgrove tomorrow with local small businesswomen. In particular, I thank Raewyn<br />

Bailey, indeed a prominent businesswoman in this state in the HR field, for agreeing to be the guest<br />

speaker and to inspire many of the women I have asked to come along. Madam Speaker,<br />

International Women’s Day is marked on 8 March every year. I note that you are having a function<br />

tomorrow and I note that many members of our team are attending the UNIFEM breakfast at the<br />

convention centre. I indeed welcome all <strong>Queensland</strong>ers—men and women—to celebrate the<br />

achievements of women everywhere.<br />

Resource and Regional Town Action Plan<br />

Hon. JW SEENEY (Callide—LNP) (Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development,<br />

Infrastructure and Planning) (10.06 am): Our government is committed to developing <strong>Queensland</strong>’s<br />

strengths in tourism, agriculture, resources and construction. This includes cutting red tape and<br />

regulation and speeding up project approvals for business to help <strong>Queensland</strong>’s economy grow and<br />

to create jobs. A significant part of cutting red tape and regulation is the raft of planning reforms<br />

currently underway to simplify and clarify the planning framework to make planning and development<br />

across <strong>Queensland</strong> more effective and more responsive. These reforms include changing the<br />

Sustainable Planning Act 2009 to make it the most cost-efficient, time-effective planning framework in<br />

Australia; developing a single state planning policy to establish a new approach to state planning<br />

policies that simplifies and clarifies the state interest; establishing a single state assessment and<br />

referral agency to streamline and standardise the assessment process; and reviewing the<br />

infrastructure charges framework to introduce a well balanced framework that is equitable,<br />

transparent and fair.<br />

However, some communities are dealing with localised issues, particularly in relation to the<br />

mining boom, which require specific short-term actions. This includes the current lack of housing<br />

affordability, pressure on local governments to assess an increased number of development<br />

applications in a timely manner, infrastructure costs and delays, and the availability of land for<br />

development. The Resource and Regional Town Action Plan has been prepared by the Department<br />

of State Development, Infrastructure and Planning to address these issues to identify short-term<br />

initiatives and on-the-ground projects which can be underway in the next 12 to 24 months and to<br />

respond to these local issues while at the same time complementing the planning reforms underway. I<br />

table for the benefit of the House a copy of that action plan.<br />

Tabled paper: Department of State Development, Infrastructure and Planning—Regional and Resource Towns Action Plan,<br />

March 2013 [2200].<br />

The action plan targets specific regional cities and towns across <strong>Queensland</strong> that are critical to<br />

the resources industry and focuses on the issues and concerns raised through consultation with<br />

stakeholders and local councils in those cities and towns. Workshops were held in Dalby, Roma,<br />

Mount Isa, Emerald, Toowoomba, Cairns, Rockhampton, Bundaberg, Gladstone, Moranbah and<br />

Mackay. The workshops targeted a range of stakeholders with essential roles in the development<br />

industry, including local and state government representatives and town planners, builders and<br />

developers.<br />

The information and ideas gathered at these workshops have been used to inform the action<br />

plan that I tabled for the benefit of members today. In the action plan the outcomes are divided into<br />

two sections: issues and responses that were common across the resource communities and issues<br />

and responses that were specific to a particular community. The action plan is presented for local<br />

governments to consider and it provides a basis for agreeing on a list of key actions to be<br />

implemented over the coming 12 to 24 months. This resource towns action plan will contribute to<br />

ensure that our mining towns provide access to great jobs, a great lifestyle and provide great services<br />

into the future.<br />

Office of Best Practice Regulation<br />

Hon. TJ NICHOLLS (Clayfield—LNP) (Treasurer and Minister for Trade) (10.09 am): Prior to<br />

the last election this government made a commitment to reduce red tape and regulation by 20 per<br />

cent. Why did we do that? Because we knew that business in <strong>Queensland</strong> was struggling to cope with<br />

the increasing weight of regulation being introduced by the previous Labor government, which was<br />

stifling investment and development. As part of that commitment the government has established the<br />

Office of Best Practice Regulation within the <strong>Queensland</strong> Competition Authority to routinely run the<br />

magnifying glass over existing and proposed regulations.


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The Office of Best Practice Regulation—or OBPR—delivered its interim report in October last<br />

year. It pleases me to inform the House that the government recently received the OBPR’s final<br />

report—a report that provides the government with the framework to establish an overarching<br />

regulatory management system to, in effect, try to stop the flow. The OBPR will provide an annual<br />

update that measures the government’s progress. We are changing the culture of government from<br />

one that promotes red tape to one that actively reduces it. Championing this reform agenda is the<br />

Assistant Minister for Finance, Administration and Regulatory Reform, Deb Frecklington.<br />

The Newman government will consider the OBPR’s final report before formally responding to it,<br />

but it has already committed to adopting the majority of the report’s 50 recommendations. The<br />

assistant minister will this week release a report card highlighting the Newman government’s progress<br />

in its first year. It also details our plans for the next 12 months. For example, when bringing forward<br />

any proposal that imposes a new regulation or procedure on small business, ministers will now be<br />

required to put forward up to three options to reduce or offset regulatory burdens. A reduction target<br />

for each portfolio will also be included in the key performance indicators of directors general.<br />

Agencies will also need to seek the Office of Best Practice Regulation’s advice as to whether a<br />

regulatory impact statement—or RIS—is required for any regulatory proposal.<br />

Unlike those opposite who say one thing and do another, our actions underline our strong<br />

commitment to making <strong>Queensland</strong> an easier and simpler place in which to do business. Since<br />

coming to government we have fully implemented more than 150 red-tape reduction reforms. A<br />

further 170 reforms are currently underway. Some of these achievements include streamlining the<br />

approvals process for all environmentally relevant activities—or ERAs—saving on average $20,000 in<br />

application costs, 150 pages of paperwork and 68 days of processing time. From 31 March, more<br />

than 9,400 small business operators will now no longer need to apply for a licence or pay an<br />

application fee and will no longer need to submit an annual return. These changes will save small<br />

businesses more than $6 million in annual fees and will let them get on with what they do best:<br />

contributing to a thriving economy and generating jobs.<br />

On Tuesday, parliament voted to remove the Bligh government’s waste levy—a $373 million<br />

tax on <strong>Queensland</strong> businesses. And, of course, one of the biggest reforms has been to increase the<br />

payroll tax exemption threshold to $1.1 million this financial year, increasing over six years. The<br />

payroll tax cut will increase job security, allowing small businesses to retain workers rather than lay<br />

them off. The member for Nanango has been working tirelessly in this space to ensure that all<br />

ministers work together to ensure that this great state is a great state with great opportunity and an<br />

attractive place in which to live, work and do business.<br />

Bus Services<br />

Hon. SA EMERSON (Indooroopilly—LNP) (Minister for Transport and Main Roads) (10.13 am):<br />

The Newman government is committed to improving the affordability, reliability and frequency of<br />

public transport. In line with that commitment, today I will release the outcome of the South-East<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> bus network review. By removing duplication and restructuring poor performing routes,<br />

the review recommends a network of 335 routes across South-East <strong>Queensland</strong> compared to the<br />

current 446. Under our plan, there will be more services operating across South-East <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

than in the final months under Labor.<br />

I think most people would be shocked to read this morning that the network that Labor left us<br />

had 52 per cent of services carrying seven or fewer people—52 per cent carrying fewer than seven<br />

people. Meanwhile, other routes were so full that they were leaving people behind. Labor increased<br />

funding by 22 per cent over three years but patronage flatlined. Labor paid for its poor management<br />

by increasing fares by 15 per cent year after year, after year, after year, after year. The Newman<br />

government has already halved Labor’s planned 15 per cent fare increases for 2013-14, but we want<br />

to do more. That is why this bus review is so important.<br />

I would like to take the opportunity to thank the thousands of public transport users who<br />

provided feedback for the review. The message we received was loud and clear: people wanted a<br />

simpler, more frequent bus network. That is what this network plan delivers. In Brisbane, the frequent<br />

network will be expanded from the existing 19 BUZ routes to 26 new high-frequency routes that will<br />

make up the go network. We will also be introducing these services to the Gold Coast for the very first<br />

time. The go network will provide a bus every 15 minutes or better. It will operate from at least 7 am to<br />

7 pm seven days a week. In Brisbane, more than 800,000 people will have access to the go network.


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The report also addresses infrastructure constraints, consolidates CBD departure points and<br />

simplifies the network. I am confident that this will create a much more attractive bus network for<br />

users.<br />

Regrettably, Labor is still not on board with the need to fix our bus network. Labor wanted to<br />

keep the same inefficient and complex network and maintain just one policy—and that was Labor’s<br />

only policy on public transport—of 15 per cent increases every year, year after year. I would like to<br />

take this opportunity to thank the Assistant Minister for Public Transport, Steve Minnikin, the member<br />

for Chatsworth, for the work that he has done in the creation of this report. I know that he is looking<br />

forward to working with TransLink, bus operators and the community as we implement the new<br />

network.<br />

Labor may not be very good at running public transport, but it is very good at running fear<br />

campaigns. We have already had the opposition transport spokesperson out there in the City South<br />

News with a concerned bus user criticising our plans to build a better bus network. I sound a word of<br />

warning. Be aware of the sort of tactics employed by the Labor Party, because sometimes your<br />

concerned bus user is not who they claim to be. In fact, they can actually be a Labor stooge. I refer to<br />

the article from 28 February talking about resident Cam Crowther. When we spoke to the newspaper,<br />

apparently there was the transport spokesperson there and suddenly who appeared? This innocent<br />

bystander waiting to give an objective viewpoint about the buses. He just appeared out of nowhere.<br />

Can I say that the opposition transport spokesperson did not say that they knew this person at<br />

all, were aware or them, or who they might be. But guess who they might have been? I have here a<br />

document indicating the membership of the Annerley branch of the Labor Party. There is the<br />

president of the ALP Labor branch, Cam Crowther. I am happy to table that. He is an innocent<br />

bystander—the president of the Annerley ALP branch.<br />

Tabled paper: Document, dated 11 September 2012, indicating Annerley Labor branch officebearers [2201].<br />

Ms Palaszczuk: When was the last time you caught a bus?<br />

Mr EMERSON: Wrong person to ask. When was the last time the Leader of the Opposition<br />

caught a bus I wonder?<br />

Can I say that it is not just that Cam Crowther—that innocent bystander who casually<br />

appeared—is the president of the Annerley branch of the ALP, I have obtained the Labor Party’s<br />

Annerley Branch Gazette. Who do we have on the back here? A photo of the opposition transport<br />

spokesman and that innocent bystander, Cam Crowther, who also appears to be the Labor<br />

spokesperson for Yeerongpilly. What happened to Simon Finn? They have flicked him already.<br />

We are working to improve our bus services. We are working to improve our network. I was<br />

wrong before, Labor had two policies: one was increasing fares every year by 15 per cent year after<br />

year, after year, after year; and a second policy was dishonesty and misleading the public.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: I call the Minister for Natural Resources and Mines and advise the minister<br />

that ministerial statements will finish at 10.23.<br />

Western <strong>Queensland</strong> River Systems<br />

Hon. AP CRIPPS (Hinchinbrook—LNP) (Minister for Natural Resources and Mines)<br />

(10.20 am): The Newman government does plan to implement a balanced approach to the<br />

management of Western <strong>Queensland</strong> river systems that will preserve the environmental values of this<br />

unique part of <strong>Queensland</strong> while providing jobs and economic growth in local communities. The LNP<br />

went to the last state election with a clearly communicated view that Labor’s wild rivers legislation was<br />

flawed. The legislation and associated declarations were another example of the dodgy preference<br />

deals done between the Greens and the previous Labor government. It locked Western <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

communities into an economic straightjacket shutting out any real consideration of alternative or<br />

diversified industries that could provide jobs for locals and prosperity for local communities.<br />

The Newman government simply wants to offer Western <strong>Queensland</strong>ers the same<br />

opportunities for economic development that are on offer to <strong>Queensland</strong>ers in other parts of the state.<br />

In November 2012 I announced the formation of the Western Rivers Advisory Panel to make<br />

recommendations to the <strong>Queensland</strong> government on a new approach to the future management of


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the Cooper, Diamantina and Georgina river systems. Demonstrating our commitment to giving all<br />

interested stakeholders a clear say on this issue, the panel includes a mix of committed<br />

conservationists, including representatives of the Lake Eyre Basin Scientific Advisory Board and a<br />

representative of the Cooper Creek Catchment Committee, Indigenous representatives, local mayors,<br />

primary producers and the resources sector. I am confident we can achieve a balanced approach to<br />

the management of these river systems that preserves the important environmental values of this<br />

unique part of the state and provides opportunities for economic growth.<br />

In the 21st century economic development and the preservation of the environment are not<br />

mutually exclusive outcomes. This process is designed to develop a more practical and less onerous<br />

framework that will preserve the significant environmental values of our western river systems and<br />

support the agricultural and resource pillars of the economy in this region of <strong>Queensland</strong> where there<br />

is an opportunity to promote best practices in co-existence between the two industries.<br />

The LNP is aware that there is a wide range of views on this issue and I look forward to the<br />

report from the advisory panel which is due by the end of this month. The Newman government will<br />

then make informed decisions on the approach to river management that strikes an effective balance<br />

between the protection of the rivers and sustainable development opportunities for communities in<br />

Western <strong>Queensland</strong>, a balance that the former Labor government denied them.<br />

STATE DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND INDUSTRY COMMITTEE<br />

Report<br />

Mr GIBSON (Gympie—LNP) (10.22 am): I lay upon the table of the House Report No.19 of the<br />

State Development, Infrastructure and Industry Committee on its inquiry into the Commonwealth<br />

Games Arrangements (Brand Protection) Amendment Bill 2013.<br />

Tabled paper: State Development, Infrastructure and Industry Committee: Report No. 19—Commonwealth Games<br />

Arrangements (Brand Protection) Amendment Bill 2013 [2202].<br />

The committee has made eight recommendations in its report and is seeking amendments to<br />

address the issue of ambush marketing and also that games related images and references be made<br />

a schedule to the bill.<br />

In recognition of the national significance of the Commonwealth Games, the committee has<br />

also made a number of recommendations that the Minister for Tourism, Major Events, Small Business<br />

and the Commonwealth Games undertakes negotiation with the relevant Commonwealth government<br />

agencies to address issues such as interjurisdictional enforcement and any amendments required to<br />

Commonwealth legislation, such as the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 and the Broadcasting<br />

Services Amendment (Online Services) Act 1999 to ensure brand protection for the games.<br />

Finally, the committee wishes to see the department develop administrative guidelines for<br />

disposal of seized or forfeited goods under this legislation and consideration be given to placing such<br />

guidelines in the Commonwealth Games arrangements regulation. I commend the report to the<br />

House.<br />

LEGAL AFFAIRS AND COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMITTEE<br />

Report<br />

Mr BERRY (Ipswich—LNP) (10.24 am): I lay upon the table of the House the Legal Affairs and<br />

Community Safety Committee’s report No. 23, Criminal Law (Child Exploitation and Dangerous<br />

Drugs) Amendment Bill 2012 and I commend the report to the House.<br />

Tabled paper: Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee: Report No. 23—Criminal Law (Child Exploitation and<br />

Dangerous Drugs) Amendment Bill 2012 [2203].


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NOTICES <strong>OF</strong> MOTION<br />

Disallowance of Statutory Instrument<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) (Leader of the Opposition) (10.24 am): I give notice that I will<br />

move—<br />

That the Industrial Relations (Mandatory Code of Practice for Outworkers) Repeal Notice 2012, Subordinate Legislation 2012<br />

No. 193, tabled in the House on 13 November 2012, be disallowed.<br />

Disallowance of Statutory Instrument<br />

Ms TRAD (South Brisbane—ALP) (10.24 am): I give notice that I will move—<br />

That the Transport (Rail Safety) Amendment Regulation (No. 3) 2012, Subordinate Legislation 2012 No. 205, tabled in the<br />

House on 27 November 2012, be disallowed.<br />

SPEAKER’S STATEMENT<br />

School Group Tours<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Today I wish to acknowledge school tours visiting: Northgate State School<br />

from the electorate of Nudgee and MacGregor State High School from the electorate of Sunnybank.<br />

QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE<br />

Costello, Mr P<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (10.25 am): My question is to the Treasurer and Minister for Trade. I refer<br />

to the Treasurer’s attendance as guest speaker at an LNP QForum fundraiser in Melbourne on<br />

15 December 2011 and ask: as shadow Treasurer did he tell guests Mr Costello would play a major<br />

role in an LNP government; did he urge guests to use the services of a Costello related lobbying firm<br />

ECG Advisory Solutions; and does the Treasurer see any conflict of interest in this matter and his<br />

appointment of Mr Costello to the Commission of Audit?<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: Can I say how delighted I am to get a question from the opposition after all this<br />

time sitting here. A year into the job I think this is the first question that the Leader of the Opposition<br />

has asked me and, of course, it does not focus in any way, shape or form on the fiscal position of the<br />

state. She does not seek to ask a question about growth. There was a big story in the paper today.<br />

Obviously those opposite get their questions from various news organs. They trawl over them and try<br />

to find the answers. Nor does she seek to find out how we are going to repay the massive debt, the<br />

$62 billion heading towards $85 billion. What does she do? She trawls around and picks up a little bit<br />

of bottom feeding that is going on out of the newspapers, out of the media and all those sorts of<br />

things.<br />

Let me make this abundantly clear: the premise of her question is utterly false. If she had<br />

bothered to consult with her colleague, the shadow Treasurer, she would know that he has already<br />

spoken about this, because I have already spoken about this. On 18 September last year in Cairns I<br />

was asked did I speak to Mr Costello and I said that I had had a conversation with Mr Costello and he<br />

said, ‘Come back once you have won the election, if you win it, and we will talk then.’ That was a<br />

disclosure that was made. It was reported in the Cairns Post on 18 September. The shadow<br />

Treasurer, showing all the nimbleness for which he is renowned, leapt on that statement and<br />

proceeded to give me a hard time about it. Let me say very clearly that the government had made no<br />

decision on the appointment of any of the commissioners in December 2011. We made no decision<br />

until after the results of the election on 24 March were known to us. We made that decision after 24<br />

March, after the results of the election.<br />

I see that there is a report of some comments that allegedly are attributed to me. I categorically<br />

and emphatically deny those comments. They were not made. They are a flight of fancy by someone<br />

who was obviously up to some form of mischief. They were categorically not made, as anyone who<br />

was at that business breakfast will attest. I was invited to attend to explain what the problems were<br />

facing <strong>Queensland</strong> prior to the election and what the LNP was proposing to do, as I did at many


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functions. I made the commitment, as we made in our election manifesto, that we would appoint a<br />

commission of audit to look at the state’s finances and what did we do? We made an appointment of<br />

commissioners Professor Sandra Harding, Dr McTaggart and Mr Costello.<br />

Conflict of Interest, Costello, Mr P<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK: My question is to the Treasurer and Minister for Trade. Will the Treasurer<br />

advise if the full secret version of the Costello report contains disclosure of Mr Costello’s interests in<br />

the lobbying firm ECG Advisory Solutions—has he read that far?<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: Let me make it abundantly clear: on the day of Mr Costello’s appointment, his<br />

full details, including his involvement with ECG, were released. Oh dear! Were you reading the report<br />

when he was appointed? Were you reading it then? Did you then say, ‘Oh no, what does ECG do?’,<br />

or did that one just gloss over you as you were driving the Tarago off to a meeting somewhere?<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Treasurer, I ask you to put your comments through the chair.<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: I am sorry, Madam Speaker. I should have said, did the Leader of the<br />

Opposition read the terms of the appointment or did that pass her by when she was in the Tarago on<br />

the way to a meeting somewhere? Mr Costello’s business involvements were clearly stated on the<br />

day of his appointment. When we announced it we said, ‘These are the qualifications of the people<br />

here’. Let us look at those qualifications, because I think it is important that we have some<br />

understanding of those appointments. Mr Costello is Australia’s longest serving federal Treasurer. Mr<br />

Costello was responsible for two upgrades to Australia’s credit rating up to AAA. Mr Costello paid<br />

back $96 billion worth of Labor debt. Mr Costello steered Australia through the Asian financial crisis<br />

and he formed a system that saw Australia have the resilience and the money in the bank when the<br />

global financial crisis hit. Mr Costello was appointed by the federal Labor government to the board of<br />

the Future Fund and he is an adviser to the World Bank. That is Mr Costello.<br />

Professor Sandra Harding is a dean of the business school at QUT and subsequently Vice<br />

Chancellor of James Cook University in North <strong>Queensland</strong>. We know they hate North <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

We know they hate regional <strong>Queensland</strong>. The member for Mackay does not want anything going on<br />

in his electorate.<br />

Mr MULHERIN: I rise to a point of order. As I have said previously, I support the summit in<br />

Mackay. It is good for tourism.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: What is your point of order? Take your seat.<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: The member for Mulgrave does not want to see the Bruce Highway upgraded.<br />

What did we do? We appointed—<br />

Mr PITT: I rise to a point of order. I find those comments offensive and I ask that they be<br />

withdrawn.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Treasurer?<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: I withdraw. They do not like rural and regional <strong>Queensland</strong>. They object to us<br />

appointing people to a Commission of Audit. They carefully brush over the other members of that<br />

Commission of Audit. Dr Doug McTaggart was appointed by the Labor Party to head the <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Investment Corporation for a decade. When it comes to a flaky, flippy floppy sort of opposition, there<br />

is none better than the ALP here in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Plan<br />

Mr COSTIGAN: My question without notice is to the Premier. Can the Premier please update<br />

the House on how all members can participate in the development of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Plan?<br />

Mr NEWMAN: As I have said recently, I am so excited about this process of working over the<br />

best part of this year to create the <strong>Queensland</strong> Plan, a plan that is all about what <strong>Queensland</strong>ers want<br />

for this state over the next 30 years. It is a plan for <strong>Queensland</strong>ers for the whole of this state of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>. It is a great opportunity for the state to come together and actually build consensus in a<br />

true spirit of collaboration and have a shared vision for the future. In particular, it is about<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>ers and <strong>Queensland</strong> leading the way. That is particularly pertinent at the moment when<br />

we have a Prime Minister who seems to think that she and her government are the only smart people;<br />

that the people in Canberra are the only smart people; that nowhere else in Australia are there people<br />

who might have great ideas about educating our kids, building better roads, creating better hospitals<br />

or ensuring that this state goes forward economically.


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I believe in <strong>Queensland</strong>ers. I think that at times those opposite do not believe in <strong>Queensland</strong>,<br />

because they are all too happy to say, ‘We’ll just sign on’. Let us look at all the national partnerships<br />

that they signed up to that are all about saying that this state will be run from Canberra. In 1975 this<br />

state was the first state in Australia to introduce totally free primary school education. We can lead the<br />

way again for this nation. We do not have to do what Canberra says. The beaut thing about this<br />

process—and I give those opposite this challenge today—is that it will be an inclusive process. All 89<br />

members of parliament get to be involved.<br />

Ms Palaszczuk interjected.<br />

Mr NEWMAN: They are interjecting. One would think that they would be really happy that I am<br />

prepared to have a true bipartisan process where they get to be involved, but they just interject. They<br />

are not interested. This week we heard the Leader of the Opposition announce that they are going to<br />

have a policy on Labour Day. One year, one policy. I say to <strong>Queensland</strong>ers that they have been in<br />

opposition for a year and on Labour Day we might see a policy. Do they mean May Day or do they<br />

mean the public holiday for Labour Day in October? It might be a longer wait than we all think for that<br />

policy. Everyone is invited to be part of this process. It will be a great process—<br />

Opposition members interjected.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Order! There are too many interjections from my left.<br />

Mr NEWMAN: Interjections from the ‘no’ opposition: no policies, no ideas. They have one<br />

policy after a full 12 months. I am offering all members of parliament the opportunity to select local<br />

representatives from their electorates, such as the mums and dads who regularly deal with the local<br />

schools, the sporting clubs and hospitals; such as retirees who have seen government ideas come<br />

and go and want to really get behind the future; such as workers who are balancing work, life and the<br />

cost of living. I am looking forward to being in Mackay.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Member for Redcliffe<br />

Mr MULHERIN: My question is directed to the Premier. Does the Premier have full confidence<br />

in the member for Redcliffe?<br />

Mr NEWMAN: Yes, I do. I say again today that I have seen absolutely nothing that would<br />

disqualify him from representing the people of Redcliffe. I note that in the past 48 hours the Leader of<br />

the Opposition was drifting around Redcliffe, interestingly with a lady by the name of Yvette D’ath. I<br />

speculate on what this could mean. Why would the Leader of the Opposition be up there with Yvette<br />

D’ath? We can speculate. Could this be a future state candidate? Is this one of the highly talented<br />

people, a recycled member, whom the Leader of the Opposition would like to bring back?<br />

We know that the Leader of the Opposition is into recycling. She would like to bring back Kate<br />

Jones, so we could easily see a $370 million job-destroying waste tax brought back into this state. We<br />

could have Cameron Dick, another one of the wreckers. What was Cameron Dick’s approach to<br />

getting tough on crime? We will all remember when he was down at the Greek Club with Michael P<br />

Smith from 4BC and Paul Pisasle. What did the then Attorney-General say to <strong>Queensland</strong>ers? He<br />

said, ‘Everything’s right. There is no problem with crime. You don’t have to worry about paedophiles<br />

and bikie gangs and gun related violence or alcohol problems in our pubs. You do not have to worry.<br />

Everything is sweet’. Those are the people whom the Leader of the Opposition wants to recycle. They<br />

are the wreckers and the people who did not listen and she wants to bring them back.<br />

I have full confidence in my team. I do not have any confidence in recycling the people who<br />

took <strong>Queensland</strong> into a position where it has an $11 billion fiscal deficit this financial year and over<br />

$62 billion worth of debt. This team, including the member for Redcliffe, is doing something about the<br />

problems that those opposite created.<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Order! Members, there are too many interjections across the chamber.<br />

Mr NEWMAN: I have full confidence in my team because they are working as a team to<br />

address the issues that those people created. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers have lower rego to pay this year and<br />

next year because of this team’s actions. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers have $7,000 less tax to pay on the family<br />

home because of this team. <strong>Queensland</strong> businesses no longer have a job-destroying waste tax


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because of this team. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers in small business have less payroll tax to pay because of this<br />

team. Do I have confidence in this team? You bet I do have confidence in this team, because they are<br />

working for <strong>Queensland</strong>ers and they are open and accountable! Still we have not seen the Leader of<br />

the Opposition’s diary and still we have not seen their lobbyist contact registers, but they can see that<br />

from us.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Honourable members, I allowed that question but technically I was in<br />

error. I remind members for the future of standing order 113(1) and particularly that questions have to<br />

relate to a matter of administration for which the minister is responsible.<br />

Brisbane Airport<br />

Mr WOODFORTH: My question without notice is to the Deputy Premier and Minister for State<br />

Development, Infrastructure and Planning. Can the Deputy Premier identify any contribution federal<br />

Labor members Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan have made to the current discussion to secure a<br />

second runway for Brisbane Airport?<br />

Mr SEENEY: I thank the member for the question. It is a good question to ask because over<br />

the last week or so <strong>Queensland</strong>ers have been engaged in a discussion about the problems around<br />

traffic congestion at Brisbane Airport. I think we have clearly established in here over the last couple<br />

of days that the two federal members who are most responsible for that traffic congestion, the two<br />

federal members who are most responsible for the delays, are Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan. They<br />

have led a campaign against a second runway since 1998. Following the election of the federal Labor<br />

government in 2007, the approval that was given by Mark Vaile in the coalition government never<br />

progressed. That is why we have the congestion that we do today.<br />

So we would expect in the discussion that has been occurring around <strong>Queensland</strong> in the last<br />

week or so that we would get some contribution from Wayne Swan and, particularly, Kevin Rudd. A<br />

search of the media clippings for that period shows absolutely nothing—absolute silence from Kevin<br />

Rudd, the former Prime Minister; absolute silence from Wayne Swan.<br />

An indication, if you like, of the extent of the interest in this subject is Twitter traffic on<br />

#bnelateagain that the Courier-Mail have set up asking people to detail their experiences. I have here<br />

some 40 pages of tweets from people who have been very keen to detail their experiences going<br />

around and around in the skies over South-East <strong>Queensland</strong> or northern New South Wales or stuck<br />

in the terminals at Brisbane Airport because of the lack of a second runway. There are some 40<br />

pages of them. Something like 600 or 700 people have taken the opportunity to detail their<br />

experiences. I table those for the benefit of the House.<br />

Tabled paper: Twitter extracts #bnelateagain regarding the Brisbane Airport [2204].<br />

But there is not one tweet from Kevin Rudd. Kevin Rudd is Australia’s foremost political<br />

Twitterer. If you have a look at Kevin Rudd’s Twitter site Kevin Rudd has put out 7,703 tweets, but he<br />

cannot do one about the Brisbane Airport issue—not one. He follows 370,000 people and he has over<br />

a million followers. None of them know what Kevin Rudd thinks about the Brisbane Airport issue<br />

because Kevin Rudd has become Twitter mute. Kevin Rudd has suddenly become Twitter shy. He<br />

has become shy at expressing his view about an issue that 600 or 700 other <strong>Queensland</strong>ers have felt<br />

the need to express a view about. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers deserve to hear from Kevin Rudd about what he<br />

thinks should happen about the second runway at Brisbane Airport.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Health Services<br />

Mr WELLINGTON: My question is to the Premier. I table a copy of an extract from the<br />

Australian Electoral Commission and the <strong>Queensland</strong> Electoral Commission returns for 2011 and<br />

2012 which show Paul Ramsay Holdings and Ramsay Health Care combined donating more than<br />

$500,000 to the Liberal Party, and I ask: in light of the state government’s new way of delivering<br />

health services in <strong>Queensland</strong>, what probity safeguards are in place to make sure healthcare<br />

providers chosen by the government are not chosen because of their connections or donations to the<br />

Liberal Party?<br />

Tabled paper: Australian Electoral Commission—details of Donor Annual Return 2011-12—Paul Ramsay Holdings Pty Ltd and<br />

Ramsay Health Care Ltd [2205].


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Mr NEWMAN: In relation to this question, the first thing is that I have not seen the return and I<br />

am not involved in the detailed fundraising activities of the LNP. There is a complete separation<br />

between the party’s activities on that front and the political or parliamentary wing.<br />

I will say this to give the honourable member some confidence. We have not made any<br />

decisions in relation to outsourcing or the private delivery of such services. Members might well find<br />

that it was the case that the previous government had done business with Ramsay Health Care. I<br />

think members would find that. It is hardly surprising that one of Australia’s leading private healthcare<br />

providers would be involved both in the past and in the future with the <strong>Queensland</strong> government.<br />

The way these things happen is that should we make a decision to go to some sort of private<br />

sector delivery there will be a proper, competitive tender process that will not be run by the cabinet or<br />

the minister. It will be run, as the member knows full well, by officials in the department with the<br />

support of our centralised procurement people in the department of the Minister for Housing and<br />

Public Works—from outside as well. There will be plenty of scrutiny. There will be probity auditors<br />

from independent accounting firms involved. It will be done properly, openly and transparently and<br />

there will be vigorous competition.<br />

I go now to the purpose of doing these things. We need to find ways to save money for<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>ers. We need to drive our dollars further. We heard only the other day in answers to<br />

questions in the House or in a ministerial statement that if we go to the Costello report it is a fact that<br />

on a case mix basis of cost per patient in <strong>Queensland</strong> it is costing around $5,400. In Victoria it is only<br />

costing $4,400. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers are paying a higher cost of deliver.<br />

Opposition members interjected.<br />

Mr NEWMAN: I do not know why these people interject because these are important issues<br />

that they once believed in. They once actually believed in them. I know that because Peter Beattie set<br />

up the Service Delivery and Performance Commission division in his October 2005 budget. But do<br />

members know what he did? He suppressed reports. When Anna Bligh came in what happened to<br />

the person heading that up—Leo Keliher? He was not around anymore because those opposite from<br />

about 2009 did not care about spending money wisely. They were quite happy to waste money. That<br />

is why we saw things like the Health payroll debacle and the Tahitian prince. They did not work hard<br />

enough for <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Commission of Audit<br />

Mr PUCCI: My question without notice is to the Treasurer and Minister for Trade. The<br />

Commission of Audit recommends the sale of some government businesses. Is the Treasurer aware<br />

of any views on the sale of government businesses?<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: I thank the member for Logan for his question—incisive as always. Yes, I am<br />

aware of some views in relation to some of the recommendations contained in the Commission of<br />

Audit. Let us remember that the Commission of Audit reinforced advice that was provided to the<br />

incoming government in the incoming Treasury brief. That is that the state of <strong>Queensland</strong>’s finances<br />

are unsustainable and require urgent remedial action in this term of government.<br />

The QTC—the <strong>Queensland</strong> Treasury Corporation; the independent bankers to government—<br />

said that together with the volume of debt on issue and interest and the projected further borrowings,<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> is entering into unchartered waters. This was supported of course by the <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Audit Office, whose report was out earlier this week, which said that <strong>Queensland</strong>’s debt had<br />

ballooned, its expenses had ballooned and had not been supported by any subsequent rise in<br />

income. It was becoming unsustainable. What did the Costello report say? It said that all those three<br />

reports were dead right and we need to do something about it. One of the things they said we have to<br />

do is stop the rot. We took that case to the budget and we did that last year in the budget that I<br />

delivered on 11 September.<br />

What does the second stage report say in its executive summary? It recommends that<br />

government should consider selling some government businesses. This has been supported by<br />

comments and statements by groups such as Infrastructure Partnerships Australia, the Australian<br />

Industry Group, the Chamber of Commerce and Industry <strong>Queensland</strong>. They all support the thrust of<br />

the Costello report.


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Imagine my surprise when I found someone slightly more closely aligned to the union<br />

movement and read their views in relation to privatisation. There was of course the member for Inala,<br />

the now Leader of the Opposition, and the member for Mulgrave, the now shadow Treasurer, who<br />

congratulated Andrew Fraser on selling Forestry Plantations <strong>Queensland</strong>, <strong>Queensland</strong> Motorways<br />

Ltd, the Port of Brisbane Corporation, the Abbot Point Coal Terminal and QR National and said they<br />

were proud to be part of a Bligh government that did that.<br />

I was looking at some websites only earlier this week. Imagine my surprise when I looked on<br />

the member for Mulgrave’s website and what did I find? ‘Mythbusters #2—Sale of Assets.’ It is still<br />

there—the member for Mulgrave selling the myths of the sale of assets. There he is, the man arguing<br />

against it—I table that for benefit of members of the House.<br />

Tabled paper: Webpage of Mr Curtis Pitt MP, member for Mulgrave, titled ‘Mythbusters #2—Sale of Assets’ [2206].<br />

He says—<br />

MYTH: The Government is selling off businesses that are highly profitable.<br />

FACT: All together the five businesses brought in about $280 million in dividends and tax equivalent payments ... However,<br />

over the next five years the businesses will require around $12 billion in investment, some of which will be spent on QR’s<br />

operations ...<br />

What else does he say here—<br />

MYTH: There’s no way that these asset sales can be in the interests of workers.<br />

FACT: Privatisation does not always mean a reduction in worker numbers.<br />

There a number of examples around the world, like Canadian National—<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Time has expired.<br />

Mr NICHOLLS:—the national railway of Canada—<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Treasurer, the time has expired.<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: Madam Speaker, they speak with forked tongue.<br />

Commission of Audit<br />

Mr PITT: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I really appreciate that. My question is to the Treasurer<br />

and Minister for Trade.<br />

Government members interjected.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Order, members! We will allow the member to ask the question in silence.<br />

I call the Manager of Opposition Business.<br />

Mr PITT: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I refer to the government’s refusal to release both the<br />

interim and final Costello reports for <strong>Queensland</strong> taxpayers to read for themselves and ask: when<br />

these reports are finally made available, will the Treasurer commit to releasing the exact same<br />

documents provided by the commission to the government without editing or alteration in the<br />

meantime?<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: Unlike the devious minds opposite, we do not go down that path. I thank the<br />

honourable member for his question of course. But that was something dreamt up in the think tank of<br />

the opposition here. Of course we will release it in the form that we got it. Of course it is going to be<br />

released that way. We would not be making any alterations to the report. Why would we? Why would<br />

we be making any alterations? They ascribe to others their own motivations and their own ideas. Only<br />

the Labor Party would think along those lines. Only the Labor Party would get a report and say, ‘We<br />

don’t like what it says, so we’re going to doctor it before we release it.’ And they have form. I can<br />

recall a report into the transport system back in 2008-09 by the then member for Lytton, Paul Lucas,<br />

in relation to a white paper on transport reform. He did not like it. Do you know what he did? He pulled<br />

it straight down off the web and did not want it disclosed.<br />

Let me reflect on some of the other policy consistencies of the member for Mulgrave, because I<br />

had not quite finished reading from the mythbusters fact sheet. On his website on 5 March under the<br />

banner of Curtis Pitt MP was ‘Mythbusters #2—Sale of Assets’. The fact sheet says—<br />

MYTH: The government is paying investment bankers millions of dollars to sell these assets.<br />

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Mr NICHOLLS: Oh dear! This was something that the Labor Party was doing—paying all those<br />

bankers walking around millions of dollars. It goes on—<br />

FACT: Put simply, we are doing this to get the best price for taxpayers.<br />

That is the answer. That was the fact. Here is the fact sheet.<br />

Opposition members interjected.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Order, members! I call the Treasurer.<br />

Mr NICHOLLS: One of the great fans of the sale of government businesses is the member for<br />

Mulgrave because, in his own words, he said they have gone from ‘strength to strength’ since being<br />

privatised. That was the member for Mulgrave’s view after the sales. So not only did he support them<br />

beforehand, not only does he still support them because he has his mythbusters fact sheet sitting on<br />

his website, dated 5 March, but he also claims that the business ‘has gone from strength to strength<br />

since it was privatised’. The Leader of the Opposition has the same comments.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Ministerial Diaries<br />

Mr CRANDON: My question without notice is to the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice.<br />

Will the Attorney-General update the House on how the government is fulfilling its commitment to<br />

openness and accountability through the release of ministerial diaries?<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I thank the member for Coomera for the question. Can I start by congratulating<br />

the Premier on taking the first step in Australia’s history of releasing, making public, information about<br />

not only his diary but also that of his ministers. So the government is an open and accountable<br />

government. We encourage all governments across Australia and all oppositions across Australia to<br />

be just as open and accountable. We have also this month started to release RTI information. We<br />

believe as a government in the push model. We want to push information out of government and not<br />

have people in <strong>Queensland</strong> trying to extract it from government and not have people in <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

not get the information they desire. So we believe in the push model. I wish the Labor Party believed<br />

in the push model.<br />

So we have also this month started RTI. When an applicant receives the RTI information,<br />

ministers log it on their website so all <strong>Queensland</strong>ers, all media outlets, can have access to exactly<br />

the same information that is available. But we look to the Labor Party who say they are open and<br />

accountable and that for the last 10 years they had an open and accountable government. I put a<br />

question to the opposition leader: where is her diary? Where are the meetings? Where are the<br />

lobbyists registers from the three former ministers opposite? Put your hands up. The member for<br />

Bundamba is showing a zero. Did they not meet anyone? Did they not have any meetings? Did they<br />

not have any RTI requests? Did they not meet lobbyists? They are the questions. They are no<br />

different to their federal counterparts. They are no different to Julia Gillard.<br />

I refer to an article from The Conversation in which Professor John McMillan says that,<br />

although the Prime Minister is not legally required to release information, the FOI ‘implicitly<br />

encouraged’ the release of information. So the Prime Minister is under a bit of pressure to release<br />

some information as well. Professor McMillan was quoted as saying—<br />

“There is undeniably a strong public interest in knowing what ministers are doing officially and who they are addressing,”<br />

Of course this relates to the SMH requesting information from the Prime Minister’s office and<br />

the Prime Minister’s response was: ‘That’s going to be too hard for my office to do and it’s going to<br />

take far too long,’ so they refused access to the information. In <strong>Queensland</strong> the Premier today<br />

released our diaries, and the 22 staff of the overresourced opposition opposite will no doubt be all<br />

upstairs trawling through all of our diaries. This article goes on to say—<br />

Following the 2010 election, Ms Gillard claimed she would lead an open and transparent government—publically releasing the<br />

diaries offers her the chance to cement that commitment.<br />

“What the Australian people told us, and they told us this in no uncertain terms on that day and on the days that have followed,<br />

is this: that we will be held more accountable than ever before ...<br />

If the Prime Minister wants to be held more accountable than ever before in this nation’s history<br />

then I call on her to follow the lead of the honourable <strong>Queensland</strong> Premier and release the<br />

information.<br />

(Time expired)


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Gold Coast, Tourism<br />

Mrs MILLER: My question is to the Minister for Tourism, Major Events, Small Business and the<br />

Commonwealth Games. With Easter holiday bookings for the Gold Coast already down by 15 per<br />

cent, why is the minister doing absolutely nothing to help the council restore the area’s devastated<br />

beaches and lure holiday makers back?<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Is the member tabling the document? Otherwise we do not use props in<br />

the chamber.<br />

Mrs MILLER: No, no. I am tabling the document.<br />

Tabled paper: Gold Coast Bulletin, dated 7 March 2013, detailing Gold Coast beaches [2207].<br />

Mrs STUCKEY: Thank you so much, Madam Speaker. What a pleasure to finally get a<br />

question about tourism. After some 36 question times and 270 questions, I am asked what I, as<br />

tourism minister, am going to do to put sand back onto beaches on the Gold Coast. The tourism<br />

industry is recognised by this government as one of the four pillars of our economy. Therefore, it is<br />

receiving attention that it never received under the Labor government. It is now a stand-alone portfolio<br />

with a tourism cabinet committee. I am very proud to say that it also has a whole-of-government<br />

initiative called DestinationQ. That means that we are focusing on tourism across the whole of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> and supporting that in a big way.<br />

No one could be a stronger sand advocate than me. Let me tell the House a little bit about sand<br />

on the Gold Coast. For over a decade now I have been calling for better management and flexibility of<br />

what we call the Tweed sand bypass, because we recognise the importance of sand replenishment<br />

on our beaches. This is a council and government agreement with New South Wales. The Gold Coast<br />

has a long history of its beaches being continually eroded. It has also long been the responsibility of<br />

our local councils to make sure that their foreshore management strategies are adequate. Only last<br />

week I called an urgent meeting with Mayor Tate, Tourism and Events <strong>Queensland</strong> and Gold Coast<br />

tourism to discuss this very issue.<br />

A government member: Well done!<br />

Mrs STUCKEY: Thank you. In less than 24 hours I had the stakeholders plus the engineers<br />

from council at the table. We had an agreement at the end of that meeting that it would be unwise to<br />

be pumping sand and moving sand around before Easter with other inclement weather patterns that<br />

have been predicted. Where does that leave us now? That leaves us in the position of now contacting<br />

all of our tourism operators. I had a report only 10 minutes ago from Gold Coast tourism to say that,<br />

whilst Easter bookings are a little down on what they were last Easter, we are very confident that they<br />

will bounce back. The main reason that people are not booking is, firstly, it is a common trend to book<br />

fairly late and, secondly, all of this bad media is doing no help at all.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Council Amalgamation, Vote<br />

Mr KEMPTON: My question without notice is to the Minister for Local Government, Community<br />

Recovery and Resilience. In 2007 the former Treasurer, Andrew Fraser, as local government minister<br />

shocked local government with a raft of forced amalgamations. Can you please advise the House<br />

which communities will be having their say this weekend?<br />

Mr CRISAFULLI: I thank the member for Cook for the question and acknowledge that two of<br />

these referendums are happening in areas that he represents. I pay tribute to him for that. He<br />

mentioned the involvement of the former local government minister. I am somebody who wants to<br />

look to the future when it comes to rebuilding local government, but it would be wrong not to briefly<br />

mention ahead of what is probably the most important day in the history of local government in this<br />

state how we got there and why five years on communities still feel so passionate about this issue. It<br />

is because, despite the fact that local government acknowledged that change needed to happen and<br />

that there had to be mergers and efficiencies, the way in which this was conducted showed a<br />

complete lack of trust and respect for what is a beautiful level of government that is closest to the<br />

people.<br />

It tore the soul out of communities. They had embarked on a journey of making this happen.<br />

They were doing it through a process called size, shape and accountability, and in a moment of<br />

madness the former local government minister woke up and spilt blood on the floor of local<br />

government. To look to the future, there is an election this Saturday in the areas of Noosa and


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Douglas. That was our election commitment. Our commitment was to allow communities to put<br />

forward a bid with a focus on Noosa and Douglas, but we have also received successful bids from<br />

both Mareeba and Livingstone. In many cases this is the most important vote that people will ever<br />

engage in because faces come and go, politicians change and you can be a rooster one day and a<br />

feather duster the next. But this is a special vote. It is a vote about the structure of governance for<br />

your area.<br />

I have visited each of these areas and I have walked the streets. I have not been there pushing<br />

a view. I have not said ‘go yes’ and I have not said ‘go no’. I have just asked people, ‘Are you aware it<br />

is happening? Do you have enough information to cast your vote?’ I have been impressed at the level<br />

of engagement in these communities. I say to people: please arm yourselves with the facts. Please<br />

make an informed vote and know that the government will support the decision that is made.<br />

I have been asked: what is a good result this weekend? A good result will be a strong voter<br />

turnout. I remind people that voting is compulsory. There will be fines issued if people do not vote.<br />

From my point of vote, whether it is zero yes votes or four yes votes or anywhere in between, it will be<br />

a success because there will be a line in the sand and local government will finally be able to move<br />

on after what has been a dark decade—a decade of being battered, bullied and bruised and used as<br />

a collection agency for any crazy idea those opposite had. This Saturday marks the beginning of<br />

something special. Whether it is 73 or 77 local governments, they will know that they are valued in<br />

this state.<br />

Government Administrative Precinct, Redevelopment<br />

Mr HOPPER: My question is to the Premier. The Premier has announced to the House that the<br />

new building on 1 William Street will cost taxpayers nothing. Can the Premier please outline to the<br />

people of <strong>Queensland</strong> how the Premier negotiated this rent free deal on <strong>Queensland</strong>’s most<br />

expensive real estate?<br />

Mr NEWMAN: Firstly, for the benefit of the honourable member, I did not negotiate any lease<br />

deal and neither did the Treasurer or the Deputy Premier. To amplify my response to the earlier<br />

answer I gave to the member for Nicklin, the professional public servants within Projects <strong>Queensland</strong>,<br />

supported by other agencies, are the ones who negotiate these arrangements. We as politicians do<br />

not get involved, and that is done at arm’s length.<br />

In relation to 1 William Street, these are the benefits of the project. Firstly, one of Australia’s<br />

largest superannuation funds, Cbus, is making the investment. It is putting the money up; <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

taxpayers are not. Secondly, in relation to the office requirements for the <strong>Queensland</strong> Public Service<br />

in the Brisbane CBD—and I have said this before; sadly, the honourable member was not listening<br />

when I outlined some of the specifics in terms of square metres—the government has both properties<br />

that it owns and commercial tenancies that it leases right now from private sector firms.<br />

The idea behind this is to move <strong>Queensland</strong> Public Service agencies into the new building.<br />

That will save—I inform the honourable member—at least $60 million a year. It will save $60 million a<br />

year because a modern, efficient building being built and paid for by Cbus with its modern, efficient<br />

floor plates will mean we will not need as much floor space. The buildings the government currently<br />

occupies do not have efficient floor plates. They were built in the sixties, seventies and early eighties,<br />

and they are not conducive to teamwork and collaboration and the sort of work environment that,<br />

frankly and unashamedly, Jim Soorley delivered in terms of a project called Brisbane Square, which I<br />

inherited as the Lord Mayor. If you want to see the difference—it is chalk and cheese—we will<br />

arrange a visit for you.<br />

The final thing that this project does is create 1,000 jobs for hardworking construction workers,<br />

both men and women, over the next three years. That is why people like David Hanna from the<br />

Builders Labourers Federation have supported this. I have not seen any statements, but I believe it is<br />

the case that Mr Michael Ravbar from the construction division of the CFMEU also supports it. They<br />

support it because it will mean jobs for their workers, their people and their members. That is why this<br />

is a great project for <strong>Queensland</strong>, because it helps us with our quest to make the <strong>Queensland</strong> Public<br />

Service the best Public Service serving <strong>Queensland</strong>ers in the nation.


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Green-Tape Reduction<br />

Mr GULLEY: My question without notice is to the Minister for Environment and Heritage<br />

Protection. Can the minister please outline what recent initiatives he has introduced to reduce green<br />

tape and ease the cost of living in <strong>Queensland</strong>?<br />

Mr POWELL: I thank the honourable member for his question. I am very proud to inform the<br />

House that the first piece of legislation that I introduced is about to come to fruition. The<br />

Environmental Protection (Greentape Reduction) and Other Legislation Amendment Bill was passed<br />

in parliament in July last year and comes into effect on the 31st of this month. This is an outstanding<br />

example of the work that this can-do government can do to achieve our 20 per cent reduction in red<br />

tape.<br />

In addition to streamlining those core approval processes under the Environmental Protection<br />

Act, this government has gone a step further and last week approved the removal of 20<br />

environmentally relevant activities for which an environmental approval was previously needed.<br />

These changes will also take effect from 31 March this year. From next month 9,400 small<br />

businesses will no longer need to apply for a licence or pay an annual application fee or need to<br />

submit an annual return. That is 9,400 businesses. That is a saving of $6.2 million each year and it is<br />

the most significant green tape reform in this regulation in over a decade. It allows small businesses<br />

to get on and do what they do best, that is, creating jobs and improving the economy.<br />

What types of businesses are going to benefit? A wide range will benefit, from motor vehicle<br />

workshops through to cabinet makers and piggeries—businesses up and down the eastern seaboard<br />

and out west to the border. How has this green tape reduction been received? Nick Behrens from<br />

CCIQ said that these changes would mean that <strong>Queensland</strong> was no longer Australia’s largest<br />

overregulator in the area of environmental protection. Kelly Dewer from MTAQ also welcomed the<br />

changes saying that the government has struck the right balance. Small business operators will no<br />

longer have to engage in a drawn out process. We are also reducing fees for small sewage treatment<br />

plants. I know the Minister for Tourism is very pleased to hear this. It will impact on bed and<br />

breakfasts and hotel operators in a range of communities including my electorate of Glass House.<br />

It is important to note that, whilst these businesses will no longer need to obtain an<br />

environmental approval, they will still be required to uphold high environmental standards. The law<br />

still applies. Environmental standards will be enforced under a new regulatory strategy which reflects<br />

a fundamental shift in the way we do business in the Department of Environment and Heritage<br />

Protection. We are speeding up approvals; we are getting out of the way of low-impact, low-risk<br />

developments; and we are getting my officers out from behind their desks, checking and monitoring<br />

businesses that do or do not require licences and to make sure that they are complying with their<br />

approvals. Where necessary, those officers will take swift and strong action under the law. This is a<br />

can-do approach to delivering on our—<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Hospital and Health Boards<br />

Mrs CUNNINGHAM: My question without notice is to the Minister for Health. In relation to new<br />

health and hospital boards, is each board responsible for establishing their own misconduct and<br />

corruption investigative team, effectively an ethical standards unit? If so, how have boards been<br />

trained and resourced to achieve this?<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: I thank the honourable member for Gladstone for her question. I also<br />

acknowledge her very strong and strident advocacy on behalf of her community, particularly with<br />

regard to health services and facilities. Over a long period there has been a number of issues within<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Health about relative accountability which has seen significant reform. Obviously, due to<br />

the Bundaberg Hospital issue some years ago, we have seen significant compliance, reform and<br />

accountability, particularly with regard to the oversight of medical practitioners or clinical practitioners,<br />

the way we receive those complaints and the way those complaints are processed appropriately. I<br />

think it is fair to say that in this particular field <strong>Queensland</strong> is a leader in Australia, but there are some<br />

areas where we do need to have further reform in the future. I have flagged that there will be some<br />

reform with regard to the Health Quality and Complaints Commission, particularly around<br />

responsibilities that were delegated to AHPRA some years ago with regard to dealing with complaints<br />

against clinicians.


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With regard to the specifics of the honourable member’s question, I can inform the honourable<br />

member that it is expected that hospital and health services around <strong>Queensland</strong> will be establishing a<br />

more formalised process for clinical and ethical standards complaints that are made to them. That will<br />

be happening in the transition phase. In the interim we will continue to support those particular HHSs<br />

as they go down that track. In <strong>Queensland</strong> Health we have an ethical standards unit which people will<br />

go straight to if they wish. People can also make complaints to the Crime and Misconduct<br />

Commission. That does happen and those complaints are often delegated back to the HHS to<br />

conduct the investigation depending upon the level of the particular complaint, which is very<br />

appropriate. We also have the Health Quality and Complaints Commission in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

The honourable member also asked about training of the HHS staff in this particular area. As I<br />

understand it, they have actually had briefings. I understand that even the CMC has briefed the health<br />

services in <strong>Queensland</strong> about their obligations.<br />

We do have local accountability. We have accountability through the department of health,<br />

through the Health Quality and Complaints Commission and also through the CMC. Is there<br />

appropriate resourcing? Yes, there is. However, I think people should put it in context that often what<br />

will be dealt with at that level can sometimes be major complaints which then escalate up the line. But<br />

many of the smaller and minor things will be dealt with at a lower level. If there are systemic issues,<br />

they will need to be dealt with more broadly across the health system.<br />

Crime and Misconduct Commission Inquiry<br />

Mr JOHNSON: My question is directed to the honourable the Attorney-General and Minister for<br />

Justice. Can the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice provide the House with an update on the<br />

Callinan inquiry and accountability and integrity in the CMC?<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I thank the honourable member for Gregory for his question. I am pleased to be<br />

able to provide an update to the member for Gregory and to all honourable colleagues with respect to<br />

Mr Ian Callinan’s and Professor Nicholas Aroney’s inquiry with respect to the CMC. Honourable<br />

colleagues will recall that when I established the inquiry into the CMC and its functions we had a<br />

particular purpose. I will now update the House with respect to the terms of reference that I<br />

announced at the time. When I set up this inquiry I said—<br />

An Advisory Panel is established comprising IAN ... CALLINAN—<br />

who all honourable members will know is the former High Court judge—<br />

and NICHOLAS ARONEY to advise the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice in relation to the matters set out below.<br />

More particularly—<br />

... as to whether the Crime and Misconduct Act 2001 ... and any other associated statutes and regulations should be amended;<br />

b) to improve the operation of agencies charged with, or concerned in the operation of the Act with respect to:<br />

(i)<br />

the use or any abuse of the powers and functions conferred by the Act;<br />

(ii) ensuring the maintenance of public confidence in the Act and the relevant agencies—<br />

and it goes on. The other reason that we set this up was due to a clear attempt by the Australian<br />

Labor Party <strong>Queensland</strong> division to mislead the public in <strong>Queensland</strong> in the election campaign of<br />

2012 against the honourable Premier and to use the CMC as a political football against members of<br />

parliament or candidates in that election. I have made no secret of the fact that I thought that it was a<br />

complete abuse of process to use the CMC in that way. The CMC is required to do the investigations,<br />

but it was the Labor Party that was using the CMC as a political football, hence, the reason we set up<br />

the inquiry: to look at ways we can ensure this does not happen in the future.<br />

The Callinan inquiry is due to report back to me next week, on 14 March. I am meeting Mr<br />

Callinan this afternoon with what I suspect will be an update on the finalisation of the report. However,<br />

I am concerned about events of late yesterday that were reported in the media with respect to<br />

previous Fitzgerald inquiry documents being made accessible to the public. I am also concerned that<br />

in the press today we see reported in an article—<br />

THE officer who helped expose police corruption in <strong>Queensland</strong> says ‘people who stuck their neck on the line’ during the<br />

Fitzgerald inquiry would be fearing for their safety after sensitive information became publicly accessible.


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Yesterday the chairman of the CMC said that it was an administrative error and an oversight.<br />

That is an unacceptable oversight and an unacceptable administrative error to the highest grade in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>, potentially putting former informants at risk. That is why the Callinan inquiry is that<br />

important. That is why I intend to tell Mr Callinan this afternoon that he will be instructed to further<br />

review the matters of late with respect to the CMC and if they need an extension to do so—<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Indigenous Communities, Safety<br />

Mr BYRNE: My question is to the Minister for Police and Community Safety. I note with some<br />

concern that there is growing unrest in Indigenous communities such as Hope Vale, Aurukun and<br />

Doomadgee, and I ask: what is the minister doing to ensure community safety in these areas?<br />

Mr DEMPSEY: I thank the member for Rockhampton and shadow minister for the question in<br />

relation to what is happening not just in Doomadgee but a number of other Indigenous communities,<br />

particularly over the last couple of days. Some of the unrest has been linked to family arguments and<br />

the <strong>Queensland</strong> Police Service is managing the situation in conjunction with the Minister for<br />

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander and Multicultural Affairs, Minister Elmes, to ensure that we have<br />

not only a police response but also a whole-of-government response to not just issues that have<br />

arisen now but issues that have been ongoing for the last 20 years. These are issues that this<br />

government is addressing in relation to enhancing the rights and the liberties of these people while<br />

also addressing a number of issues affecting Aboriginal properties in not just Doomadgee but also<br />

urban areas across <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

As the shadow minister for police would know, the job of policing has by its nature an inherent<br />

risk which brings with it a number of different scenarios. We will always work to minimise those risks.<br />

We are currently addressing those social issues in those communities, and the <strong>Queensland</strong> Police<br />

Service has significantly increased resources to Doomadgee in particular to assist the local officers<br />

on the ground. The government will do everything possible to protect the members of the community.<br />

We have to remember that police are there to protect the community, and this government’s firm<br />

commitment is not to remove police because that is not the answer in addressing these issues in the<br />

community. Similarly, we will be doing everything in our power to protect the police officers on the<br />

front line—unlike those in the opposition. One only has to refer to the lack of support from the<br />

member for Rockhampton in this House. What did he say in relation to supporting this government’s<br />

motion in relation to assaults on police?<br />

Mr Pucci: He voted no!<br />

Mr DEMPSEY: He said, ‘No.’ Thank you, member for Logan. What did he say about illegal<br />

firearms? He said—<br />

Government members: No!<br />

Mr DEMPSEY: What did he say in relation to evade police powers?<br />

Government members: No!<br />

Mr DEMPSEY: He said no again. What did he do in relation to evil predators and child sex<br />

offenders?<br />

Government members: No!<br />

Mr DEMPSEY: He said no again. But then he did say something—<br />

Mr BYRNE: I rise to a point of order. This is an important question. All I am asking for is a<br />

serious answer.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Dr Robinson): What is your point of order, member for Rockhampton?<br />

Mr BYRNE: My point of order is that he is not relevant at all to the question.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: There is no point of order. The minister shall continue.<br />

Mr DEMPSEY: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. But this is what the member for Rockhampton<br />

did say in this House in relation to firearms offences—and it makes the whole ethos clear in terms of<br />

the difference between Labor and the LNP—when sympathising with a drug user in relation to firearm<br />

offences. He said—<br />

Say there is an 18 year old kid in the country who has his grandad’s gun lying around the house while he is dealing small<br />

quantities of cannabis to his friends.<br />

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Health, Federal Funding<br />

Mr HOBBS: My question is to the Minister for Health. I refer the minister to the Senate inquiry<br />

into the federal government’s funding cuts that have stripped $103 million from <strong>Queensland</strong> Health,<br />

and I ask: has the Senate inquiry reported on its findings and does it tell <strong>Queensland</strong>ers anything<br />

about the cover-ups of union bosses and Labor state politicians?<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: I call the Minister for Health. You have two minutes.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: As everyone knows, this parliament—at least those on this side—has been<br />

pursuing this issue now for some months because the Commonwealth government’s retrospective<br />

health cuts have completely brutalised the health system in <strong>Queensland</strong> and we are seeing the<br />

deniers fall over one by one by one by one. Even the union movement is now saying that these cuts<br />

are a reality and they are impacting upon the system. The Senate committee actually reported today,<br />

and that Senate committee was made up of members of the coalition and the Greens and the Labor<br />

Party. There were six recommendations made by that committee. What that committee said today<br />

was that the Commonwealth government should give the money back. It also said that, when it<br />

comes to the issue of inessential data and miscalculations like this, there should not be a process of<br />

retrospective application of these draconian cuts without the proper collection and the proper fixing up<br />

of that data.<br />

The Labor Party in <strong>Queensland</strong> is now completely out on a limb when today even a Senate<br />

committee says that the health system in not only <strong>Queensland</strong> but Australia-wide has been affected<br />

by these draconian cuts by the Commonwealth government. As the chair of the committee said today,<br />

if a person has had a hip operation or if a child has had a tonsillectomy, you cannot put the tonsils<br />

back in and you cannot reverse the hip operation. The procedures have been done. I now call upon<br />

Labor Party members opposite to stop playing politics and to start standing up for the patients in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> and agree with their interstate health ministers in the Labor Party who all agree that this<br />

should be reversed in the best interests of all patients and staff in our health system.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Madam SPEAKER: The time for questions has expired.<br />

PARLIAMENTARY CRIME AND MISCONDUCT COMMITTEE<br />

Report, Motion to Take Note<br />

Mrs CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—Ind) (11.26 am): I move—<br />

That the House takes note of report No. 89 of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee tabled on 29 January 2013.<br />

Report No. 89 of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee titled A report on the<br />

Crime and Misconduct Commission’s investigation of suspected improper conduct of a Crime and<br />

Misconduct Commission employee was tabled on 29 January 2013. During the 2012 election<br />

campaign the Misconduct area of the CMC undertook an assessment into allegations surrounding the<br />

activities of Mr Campbell Newman. These events attracted significant media attention. Consequently,<br />

the CMC confirmed in a media release on 16 March that on 29 February 2012 the CMC decided that<br />

it should undertake an assessment of matters which had become the subject of public debate relating<br />

to alleged donations by a developer to the Liberal National Party’s Forward Brisbane Leadership fund<br />

in January 2011 ahead of Brisbane City Council’s approval for a Woolloongabba development. The<br />

media statement stated—<br />

While the CMC has determined there is no evidence of official misconduct against Mr Newman in this matter, it has decided to<br />

commence a misconduct investigation into the circumstances of the alleged developer donations.<br />

In March 2012 the former PCMC became aware of allegations of bias regarding CMC<br />

employee Ms Kathryn Ellis, the then Director of the Office of the Assistant Commissioner Misconduct,<br />

in relation to the CMC’s assessment of allegations relating to Mr Campbell Newman, the then<br />

candidate for the state seat of Ashgrove. These matters came to the former committee’s attention in<br />

several ways—through media articles, by way of complaint by Mr Jarrod Bleijie MP, then shadow<br />

Attorney-General, and in notification from the CMC chairperson pursuant to section 329 of the CMC<br />

Act. In April 2012 the former committee received correspondence from the CMC advising Ms Ellis had


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a minor role in the investigation relating to Mr Newman but that Ms Ellis’s role did not have any<br />

involvement in the decision to instigate the investigation. A number of instances occurred where the<br />

CMC chairperson also advised that he did not suspect Ms Ellis actively sought to influence that or any<br />

other CMC investigation, but the former committee requested the CMC investigate the matter and<br />

provide the committee with a report.<br />

The former committee also resolved to ask the parliamentary commissioner, Mr Paul Favell, to<br />

supervise the CMC’s investigation and for the parliamentary commissioner to provide the committee<br />

with a report on its supervision of the CMC’s investigation.<br />

This current committee was appointed in May 2012 and considered the matter on 1 June. At<br />

that meeting the committee agreed with the former committee’s reservations regarding the CMC’s<br />

decision to retain the services of Mr Richard Douglas SC in relation to this matter because of the<br />

potential perception of bias given that Dr Alex Douglas MP, member for Gaven, chaired the previous<br />

committee. Both the former and current committees and the parliamentary commissioner<br />

independently expressed the same reservations.<br />

On 9 July 2012 the CMC chairperson advised the committee that the CMC had decided to<br />

terminate Ms Ellis’s contract without providing a reason under the terms of her contract of<br />

employment. The parliamentary commissioner’s report, which is not a report of the committee,<br />

concluded that the proposed termination of Ms Ellis’s contract was not inappropriate in the<br />

circumstances. The parliamentary commissioner also concluded that it would not be inappropriate for<br />

the CMC to terminate Ms Ellis’s employment as a result of disciplinary action.<br />

The CMC did not act to implement its decision after information in September that Ms Ellis had<br />

been diagnosed with renal cancer and other health issues. Consequently, the execution of the<br />

determination by the CMC was delayed. It was decided, and our report concludes, that the CMC must<br />

act impartially. The committee accepted the parliamentary commissioner’s conclusions that the<br />

CMC’s procedures and policies relating to the declaration of interest by CMC officers does not require<br />

amendment and that the activities of the CMC in relation to the Anti-Discrimination Act 1991 are also<br />

acceptable.<br />

The delay in time to finalise this matter was unfortunate. The committee considers that the<br />

CMC did not act inappropriately in allowing Ms Ellis sufficient time to undergo and recover from<br />

necessary radical surgery before advising her of the CMC’s decision to terminate her employment.<br />

However, she did resign prior to the implementation of that decision.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Mr WELLINGTON (Nicklin—Ind) (11.31 am): I rise to speak to report No. 89. I endorse the<br />

comments made by the chairman, the member for Gladstone. I want to put on the record that the<br />

matters considered in this report did cover two parliamentary terms and two committees. I understand<br />

the frustration that some members have with how long it took for the matter to be resolved and for this<br />

report to come to the House. I assure members that at all times committee members’ deliberations on<br />

this matter was as thorough as possible and we were very aware of the need to make a timely<br />

decision as soon as that was possible.<br />

Unfortunately, there are matters that the committee is not at liberty to share with other<br />

members. I suppose that sometimes leads to aggravation and anxiety and people jump to<br />

conclusions that are unnecessary. So all I want to say to all members is to reassure them that my<br />

experience and involvement in the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee has left me in no<br />

doubt that all members—all members—have tried to do the best they can under the conditions they<br />

work with. I urge the Attorney-General to look at the recommendations and perhaps the government<br />

may make some decisions in relation to our recommendations.<br />

To me the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee is the most important committee<br />

that a parliament can have. It is the only committee that continues after a state election and until a<br />

new committee has been formed. That was what happened in this case. The matters were raised<br />

during the time of the previous government. The matter was considered during the caretaker period.<br />

A new government was formed and in due course new members came on board. So I want to allay<br />

members’ concerns, if they have any, in relation to the ability of the members on this committee to<br />

always try to do the best they can. I certainly believe that all members have in this case.


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Dr DOUGLAS (Gaven—Ind) (11.34 am): I, too, wish to speak to this matter. As the former<br />

immediate chair of the PCMC, I endorse the comments of the previous two speakers, the current<br />

chair of the PCMC and one of the members of the PCMC. As all members know, I take these matters<br />

very seriously and at all times keep these matters confidential forever, as they must be.<br />

The matter concerned was a very, very contentious matter—an extremely contentious matter—<br />

and there was a demand that was, for some people, reasonably made that it be dealt with in a kind of<br />

haste that these sorts of matters cannot be dealt with. I do not want to go into any of those things any<br />

further. There were certainly matters that were raised that became apparent. Certainly, in regard to<br />

the issue of my brother, who is a barrister in Brisbane and who is an expert in this type of evidence—<br />

and there are only a few people in that case—as soon as it became apparent, as it has come out<br />

already, I withdrew from the matter so that there was no room for conflict. I want to state clearly on<br />

the record that as soon as that was discovered, that was reasonably raised. I am aware of conflict of<br />

interest matters. These sorts of things occur in one’s professional life and one has to be careful.<br />

Having said that, I believe what has transpired since has been reasonable and fair to all parties<br />

and, in fact, has happened within a time frame that is equally reasonable and fair. It is always difficult<br />

in retrospect for people to look at these matters and say, ‘I would have done this differently. I think it<br />

should be handled in a different way. I don’t think those matters should be handled exactly in that<br />

manner. These people may have made a mistake.’ I do not want to address any of those other than to<br />

say that at all times I believe the PCMC and the CMC itself behaved absolutely magnificently,<br />

professionally and in a timely manner, as you would expect them to do. They serve the state very<br />

well.<br />

There were some comments made about the CMC by the Attorney-General today. I urge all<br />

members to seriously regard the role of the CMC as the counterweight to what we need in a<br />

unicameral parliamentary system. We need a strong CMC and by default we need a strong PCMC to<br />

make sure that the balance is always correct and that is in regard to protecting the public interest at<br />

all times. Having said that, the matter is concluded and I think it is as it should be. It is always<br />

disappointing that people would feel that it should have gone another way, or matters should be<br />

concluded in different ways, but when things are dealt with fairly and people are given a reasonable<br />

chance to explain themselves and it has been done correctly and reviewed and scrutinised and it has<br />

been reported on, I would have to say that people should allow that to stand the test of time.<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (11.37 am): I am<br />

speaking today to report No. 89 of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee as the original<br />

complainant of this matter. I note that a few days prior to the March 2012 election I put in a detailed<br />

complaint against one Ms Kathryn Ellis from the CMC who at the time, as I still understand, was<br />

married to Mr Nolan, who was a business partner of Bruce Hawker, the Labor Party strategist running<br />

the 2012 campaign. There was a photograph released I think in the Courier Mail at the time that<br />

showed Mr Nolan and Mr Hawker having coffee in one of the shops in Brisbane during the election<br />

campaign. That is why I made the complaint.<br />

Upon coming to realise that Ms Ellis was indeed married to Mr Nolan—the business partner of<br />

Bruce Hawker, Labor Party strategist—and working in the CMC I became very, very much concerned,<br />

because the subject matter of the complaint, that being the candidate for Ashgrove at the time, had<br />

an enormous amount of complaints from the Labor Party at the time. Even on page 4 of the PCMC<br />

report it states—<br />

The Chairperson of the CMC advised that Ms Ellis had a minor role in the investigation relating to Mr Newman.<br />

So we had in a minor role in the investigation of Mr Newman the wife of a business partner of a<br />

Labor Party strategist. I think all <strong>Queensland</strong>ers should be concerned. That should raise the<br />

eyebrows of anyone reading a report about someone who is in the crime-fighting corruption watchdog<br />

in <strong>Queensland</strong> having such a direct involvement by their spouse with the Labor Party in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

So I put in this complaint and it has taken nearly 12 months to get a resolution.<br />

As the original complainant, I want to place a couple things on the record today. I will deal with<br />

the Labor Party campaign and the use of the CMC in a minute. This was a clear attempt by the Labor<br />

Party to politicise the CMC during the election campaign. The member for Nicklin says that I should<br />

have confidence in the top corruption and crime-fighting body in this state, and I do. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers<br />

want confidence in the top corruption and crime-fighting body in this state, but this is the sort of thing<br />

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How far will the Labor Party corrupt the truth in this state? We know the member for South<br />

Brisbane was heavily involved in the 2012 state campaign. She served on this committee for some<br />

period, as I understand. She was directly involved in Labor Party strategies. She was probably having<br />

daily meetings with Mr Hawker. All the while the candidate for Ashgrove at the time was being<br />

investigated by the CMC with the minor involvement of Ms Ellis.<br />

There are a couple of things that I want to put on the record: firstly, this report took far too long;<br />

secondly, why is it that the CMC investigate potential corruption issues within the CMC? I referred this<br />

to the PCMC and by rights they put it onto the CMC commissioner. They have an oversight position,<br />

but the CMC ultimately did the investigation, came to some negative conclusions, was going to<br />

terminate Ms Ellis’s appointment and then Ms Ellis got sick so it did not terminate her employment.<br />

She resigned at the end of last year. As a complainant I am left wondering where is justice in this<br />

matter? Someone just resigns from the CMC and that is the end of the matter. If I can offer anything<br />

to the PCMC, particularly to the Committee of the Legislative Assembly, it is that I had complete<br />

frustration. The committee tabled one letter that I wrote which was the original complaint. I wrote<br />

numerous letters to the committee which I, under standing orders, cannot table in this parliament<br />

today. Even as the complainant, even though we are debating this report, I still cannot table all the<br />

documentation associated with this issue.<br />

I call on the CLA to seriously look at the relationship between the CMC and the PCMC.<br />

Members of parliament who are the subject of complaints should be able to talk to other members of<br />

parliament. Although the honourable the Premier was the candidate at the time and I put in the<br />

complaint about the CMC where he was the subject of the complaint, I could not talk to the Premier<br />

about this until today when we are debating this report. I think the CLA should seriously look at the<br />

freedom of members of parliament to talk to one another about these matters and not have one<br />

member of parliament with the burden on their shoulders. The timeline should seriously be looked at<br />

and the CMC should not be investigating misconduct matters involving itself. The other issue is that<br />

all the letters that I tabled should be put out into the public domain so people can understand the<br />

complete frustration that I have had over the last 12 months.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: The minister’s time has expired.<br />

Mr STEVENS (Mermaid Beach—LNP) (Manager of Government Business) (11.42 am): I<br />

move—<br />

That the Attorney-General be granted an extension of time.<br />

Question put—That the motion be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE: I thank the honourable Manager of Government Business. I do have<br />

concerns with the secretive nature of the PCMC and the CMC. This issue should be of concern to<br />

everyone who reads this report. It is no reflection on the great work that Mrs Cunningham, the<br />

member for Gladstone, is doing as the independent chair of the PCMC. As a complainant who has<br />

gone through this process over the last 12 months I think we are at a stage where we need further<br />

reform.<br />

I believe that the PCMC should have open meetings like other committees have open<br />

meetings. I believe <strong>Queensland</strong>ers expect nothing less from an open and accountable committee<br />

system. I am not sure whether the PCMC or indeed the Ethics Committee have had any open<br />

meetings in the last two years to talk about these sorts of issues. I believe <strong>Queensland</strong>ers expect<br />

nothing less than total independence, openness and accountability. That is not to say that in this<br />

process the committee has not been, but <strong>Queensland</strong>ers do not understand that process because all<br />

they have is a frustrated member of parliament as the original complainant, a report that took 12<br />

months to investigate and things like the chairman of the CMC advising that Ms Ellis had a minor role<br />

in the investigation. I acknowledge the issues raised by the member for Gaven. He stepped aside<br />

from the committee because of his brother. He is of great legal mind and well qualified to address that<br />

issue, but was put in the position, essentially by the CMC, where there was a perception of bias. I<br />

understand that issue completely.<br />

The other issue is that this whole process took nearly 12 months. From the record of the PCMC<br />

the CMC was going to take action against Ms Ellis in terms of terminating her employment, but then<br />

she resigned and no further action was taken and the CMC washed its hands clean of any of this<br />

issue despite the fact there had been some adverse findings. With all due respect, the<br />

recommendation that has been given for me to adopt with respect to the Anti-Discrimination Act really


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has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The issue at hand was a serious complaint I had against a<br />

senior member of the CMC who investigated Mr Newman during the election campaign to a minor<br />

extent, and then the public are asked to believe that there was no issue because she did not have a<br />

direct involvement in the outcome of the investigation of Mr Newman, yet the person was allowed to<br />

resign from the position and no further action is taken.<br />

I again call on the Committee of the Legislative Assembly to look at how we can open these<br />

processes for the benefit of all members. I can tell members in this House the frustration and the<br />

burden I have had placed on my shoulders for 12 months since I put this complaint in. I have not been<br />

able to speak to any of my parliamentary colleagues about this issue to seek advice. I have not been<br />

able to speak to anyone publicly about it. I cannot go into the details today because I would be<br />

referred to the Ethics Committee if I breached standing orders, which is a ridiculous issue in itself. We<br />

are debating a report, we are debating an issue that went to the PCMC and I cannot report on letters<br />

that I wrote to the committee in this process as the original complainant. I cannot table all the<br />

documentation so <strong>Queensland</strong>ers can have a full understanding of this issue and where I came from<br />

because I could be referred to the Ethics Committee for breaching standing orders against the<br />

privileges of the committee. All I can do is speak about what is reported.<br />

This should be a modern <strong>Queensland</strong> where we talk about open and accountable government.<br />

We have had the Premier today releasing diaries; we have had guidelines issued by myself a couple<br />

of weeks ago where we have the most open and transparent RTI processes—where applications of<br />

RTI are made available—yet we still in this modern parliament have a closed door operation with<br />

parliamentary crime and misconduct matters and ethics matters in this state. For the sake of all<br />

members of parliament, I call on the Committee of the Legislative Assembly to seriously consider<br />

reforms to the PCMC and the CMC so that the public can again regain that trust in the body that has<br />

the highest powers with respect to misconduct and corruption matters in this state.<br />

I know at times I have been at loggerheads with the Independent member for Nicklin with<br />

respect to the CMC. I genuinely say to the member for Nicklin today that the whole point of Ian<br />

Callinan’s inquiry into the CMC is to make sure that at the end of the day we have a system that is<br />

more open and transparent.<br />

Mrs Miller: It is to get rid of the CMC.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I take the interjection from the member for Bundamba: so I can get rid of the<br />

CMC. That is the sort of ridiculous statement from the Labor Party that led to this report in the first<br />

place. That is the hide of the Labor Party. The Labor Party should hang its head in shame for using<br />

the CMC as its political football. Any issue the Labor Party had its members would run down and do a<br />

press conference, particularly Andrew Fraser or Anna Bligh. They would turn up to the press<br />

conference and say, ‘We are referring Campbell Newman’ or ‘Jarrod Bleijie’ or someone ‘to the CMC.’<br />

They would be asked, ‘What is your evidence?’ And they would answer, ‘Well, we don’t really have<br />

any evidence, but if they investigate surely they will come up with something.’ The corruption<br />

watchdog should not be used in that manner. It is up to the Labor Party—not the CMC or members of<br />

parliament or the PCMC—to stop that rot, to stamp out that rot. The member for Bundamba can sit<br />

here opposite interjecting and shaking her head because she accepts what the Labor Party did. She<br />

accepts the absolute rot and garbage that the Labor Party put the Premier through as the candidate<br />

for Ashgrove and other members in this place and, more particularly, his family who ought not to have<br />

gone through that whole situation. It was all because the Labor Party wanted a quick win in an<br />

election.<br />

But was it not a change of story the Friday one week before the election when the CMC chair<br />

came out and said there are no issues here, nothing further to investigate, no case to answer? Then<br />

the Labor Party’s little campaign, led by the member for South Brisbane who was in the strategy box<br />

at the office probably leading this whole campaign against the Premier, came crashing down. The<br />

next day the Labor Party went flat because Anna Bligh, the Premier at the time, had no answer to the<br />

question, ‘What evidence do you have?’<br />

Mr Choat: She is very quiet now.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I know; I take the interjection. The member for South Brisbane is very quiet. She<br />

has not said that she was not the Labor Party strategist involved with Bruce Hawker and all the rot to<br />

the CMC at that time. In <strong>Queensland</strong> we want a crime-fighting corruption body that is open,<br />

transparent and accountable, just as <strong>Queensland</strong>ers should expect. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers should expect


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nothing less. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers want an open and integral system of corruption fighting in this state.<br />

They want a body that is open and accountable itself. Who watches the watchers? That is why it is up<br />

to this place to ensure that we have a more open and transparent system.<br />

As I said, the Labor Party should hang its head in shame. The member for Bundamba, who is<br />

all squawk and talk now, should hang her head in shame for its desperate efforts to win an election.<br />

This would not have happened if the Labor Party had not tried to misrepresent the facts to win a few<br />

votes. The member for Bundamba is to be condemned for being a part of it. The member for<br />

Mulgrave is condemned for being a part of it. The member for South Brisbane is certainly condemned<br />

for being a part of it, because the member for South Brisbane was at the heart of this.<br />

We will fix this. We will ensure that the CMC is an open and transparent crime-fighting<br />

corruption body in this state. I look forward to Ian Callinan’s report being handed down next week or a<br />

little later, depending on whether they want to investigate matters that have arisen of late. The<br />

member for Bundamba—<br />

Mrs Miller interjected.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I will not hang my head in shame. Neither I nor the Liberal National Party used the<br />

CMC as a political football. The Labor Party brought this on itself. It was not the Liberal National Party<br />

or the then candidate for Ashgrove; it was the Labor Party. All seven squawkers opposite, who are<br />

now shaking their heads, should hang their heads in shame. Over years and years they developed<br />

this process of using the CMC as a political football. The time has come to draw a line in the sand.<br />

The CMC will be an open and accountable body to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong>, not the Labor Party<br />

and not the member for Bundamba.<br />

I still express my strong dissatisfaction with the result of the CMC investigation into one Ms<br />

Kathryn Ellis. Ms Kathryn Ellis resigned from the CMC and no further action has been taken with<br />

respect to that individual. There was an adverse finding. The CMC said it would terminate her<br />

employment without any reference to why. The people of <strong>Queensland</strong> ought to know why. We should<br />

have the strongest possible safeguards in the CMC to ensure that strong people associated with any<br />

political party ought not be in those positions.<br />

Question put—That the motion be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

QUEENSLAND MENTAL HEALTH COMMISSION BILL<br />

Second Reading<br />

Resumed from 6 March (see p. 431), on motion of Mr Springborg—<br />

That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

Mrs FRANCE (Pumicestone—LNP) (11.52 am): Today I am pleased to rise to speak to the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Bill 2012. This bill shows that the government is concerned<br />

about and dedicated to addressing the serious issues surrounding mental health and substance<br />

abuse. The demands of today’s society play a significant role in the suffering of people with mental<br />

health issues. We can and should provide strong support to those people to assist them in creating a<br />

better life for themselves.<br />

The <strong>Queensland</strong> government is committed to revitalising our front-line healthcare services and<br />

developing better collaboration and partnerships with our community, while ensuring that we are<br />

delivering the right services locally. We are focused on investing better in <strong>Queensland</strong>’s infrastructure<br />

and also planning well for the needs of our community. Mental illness affects one in five Australians at<br />

some point in their lives. Depression has been predicted to rise to be one of the greatest causes of<br />

global disease burden over the next 20 years. There are a number of government organisations,<br />

NGOs and private sector bodies providing support to people living with those issues. This bill will<br />

provide the mechanism to ensure that all services complement each other and work together to<br />

support the recovery of people who are suffering. This will be done by developing a whole-ofgovernment<br />

strategic plan and by the monitoring and evaluation of the plan’s implementation.<br />

Last week, on 28 March, I had the pleasure of representing Minister Springborg and opening<br />

the new $22.4 million mental health facility at the Caboolture Hospital. This facility will provide mental<br />

health services for adults in the Redcliffe, Caboolture, Bribie and Kilcoy regions. We have<br />

approximately 60 highly qualified mental health professionals working at the new facility in the areas


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of nursing, medical services and allied health. Our wonderful new facility has seen the addition of 30<br />

new adult mental health care beds, increasing our available adult acute inpatient beds from 29 to 40,<br />

and for the first time has seen the provision of 19 new secure rehabilitation units. In addition to the<br />

acute inpatient and secure rehabilitation units, our new facility includes open dining and common<br />

areas, and activity areas such as a gym, a basketball court and an Indigenous healing garden. The<br />

introduction of the new secure units are a significant enhancement to the mental health services<br />

available in our community and meet the needs for people who cannot be treated in other parts of the<br />

hospital, as they require long-term rehab support in a safe and secure environment.<br />

The new facility has been designed around the concept of healing hands and creates an<br />

environment that is safe, respectful and one that inspires hope for people on their recovery journey. In<br />

July 2012, the facility hosted the Foundations of Hope Art Exhibition with over 50 pieces created by<br />

people living with mental illness. The new facility walls are decorated with these impressive pieces of<br />

art and add to the very light, bright and modern feel of the facility. The community response to the<br />

new facility has been very positive and I can say I was extremely impressed, not only by the design<br />

but also by the dedication and commitment of the team that Caroline Weaver and Monica O’Neil have<br />

hand-picked. The staff and volunteers working at the facility make a world of difference to the<br />

consumers in their recovery journey. This was attested to at the official opening last week when<br />

Brooke, a previous consumer, gave a speech about her experiences as a person suffering from<br />

mental illness. I was very moved by Brooke’s personal story and so very impressed that she had the<br />

courage to stand in front of everyone and make us all open our minds and our hearts and think about<br />

the struggles faced by those suffering from mental illness.<br />

For me personally, opening day at the facility gave me the chance to meet Brooke and other<br />

residents and see the benefits that this facility is providing for our community. It is wonderful to hear<br />

stories from the medical staff in the emergency department and our local police about how this facility<br />

will assist them to do their jobs. Superintendent Michael Brady made the comment that Caboolture<br />

police have appointed a mental health liaison officer and, with the new facility at the hospital, the<br />

professionalism between the two organisations has seen the introduction of more efficient<br />

procedures, with police seeing a significant reduction in the time it now takes to process those in<br />

police custody into the mental health facility.<br />

This bill includes a set of guiding principles that the commission and all other agencies must<br />

regard and they include respecting the rights and privacy of people living with mental health and<br />

substance misuse issues, and supporting their social inclusion; accessibility of the services; respect<br />

for Aboriginal custom and Torres Strait Islander traditions; support for the critical role of carers and<br />

support persons; shared responsibility for mental health and wellbeing and harm minimisation and<br />

collaborative efforts; and communication and collaboration. Key functions of the commission will be to<br />

develop and monitor the strategic plan for implementation of mental health and limiting of harm<br />

associated with substance misuse. This plan will be a key tool to providing benchmarks and<br />

performance measures and will assist with policy development and justified budget allocations. The<br />

bottom line is that this bill will enhance the delivery of services to people suffering from mental illness<br />

and substance abuse. The legislation requires that this strategic plan be developed with extensive<br />

consultation and that all agencies providing relevant services must have regard to this plan when<br />

performing their functions.<br />

The legislation also provides for the creation of the Mental Health and Drug Advisory Council.<br />

This council will advise the commission on mental health and substance misuse issues and trends,<br />

and will make recommendations to the commission about performance. This council will provide a<br />

principal avenue for stakeholders to be directly involved in the operation of the commission. The<br />

Minister for Health will be required to bring together a group of members who have the skills,<br />

knowledge and experience to provide high-level advice, communicate effectively and appreciate the<br />

problems that face the people who are suffering on a daily basis. This advisory council must and will<br />

identify practical and innovative solutions to ever increasing societal problems. This advisory council<br />

will operate autonomously. Of course it will be answerable to the minister for the way it conducts its<br />

business, but it is not subject to the direction of the minister or the commissioner. This advisory<br />

council must report publicly on its performance and operate accountably, reflecting that it is a publicly<br />

funded body.


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This bill provides for enhanced, open and transparent management of persons suffering from<br />

mental illness and drug and substance abuse. Minister Springborg and his team should be proud of<br />

the work that they are doing to address this very important issue. I commend this legislation to the<br />

House.<br />

Dr DAVIS (Stafford—LNP) (12.00 pm): I rise in support of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health<br />

Commission Bill 2012, including amendments to the Mental Health Act 2000. Mental health legislation<br />

needs to recognise the rights of persons living with mental health and substance misuse disorders,<br />

whilst acknowledging the rights of those they interact with. It requires a balance between paternalism<br />

and autonomy. It recognises that value judgements have to be made on complex issues. These<br />

generate a diversity of opinion, as we have already heard during this debate. Fortunately, this bill has<br />

common sense as its backbone and mental health as its vision, which should relieve the anxiety of<br />

those who feel the need to challenge it.<br />

My contribution today builds on more than 20 years of having worked professionally in<br />

association with mental health teams and so witnessing firsthand the art and science of working with<br />

all stakeholders, and particularly patients and their support networks, to achieve the best possible<br />

outcomes.<br />

This legislation recognises the need for clinician expertise to offer accurate diagnosis and<br />

optimal medical management; legal safeguards to provide a review of decisions that involve<br />

restrictions of freedom; and, very importantly, advocacy for sustainable environments that maximise<br />

quality of life for affected individuals. It provides a whole-of-government approach, recognising that<br />

antecedents of mental ill health may include environmental factors, as does successful rehabilitation<br />

and maintenance. The commission is required to include housing, jobs, education and other<br />

community supports in generating its strategic plans. Optimising all these requirements is a dynamic<br />

and iterative process. It requires ongoing consultation with key stakeholders, including patient<br />

advocates, health and welfare providers, legal practitioners and law enforcers, amongst others.<br />

The Mental Health Commission, in conjunction with the Mental Health and Drug Advisory<br />

Council, will provide such a forum characterised by independent advocacy, considered debate,<br />

reasoned decision making and sound recommendations. It will assist in the development of<br />

performance indicators for service providers. These should focus on the ability of patients to be their<br />

best both in terms of health and their ability to function meaningfully as members of society.<br />

Critically, the commission will be an independent and transparent body that will help reassure<br />

the public that competing and conflicting complexities are recognised and resolved as best as<br />

possible. This is vital because even with the best knowledge, advice and decision making things do<br />

go wrong simply due to the complexity and unpredictability of the human mind, particularly when<br />

clouded by mental illness and frequently associated substance misuse. The commission will play a<br />

key role in ensuring a system that delivers risk and harm minimisation, recognising that elimination of<br />

untoward events is not possible without unreasonable restrictions on personal liberty.<br />

Like all quality initiatives, the work of the commission will be a dynamic process where goals<br />

are determined, strategies implemented, performance measured and outcomes reviewed on an<br />

ongoing cyclical basis. Given the importance and complexity of the task, choosing the right people for<br />

the commission and the council will be a critical success factor, together with ongoing access to the<br />

expertise of senior officers in <strong>Queensland</strong> Health, especially the Director of Mental Health, and the<br />

independent second opinion of the Mental Health Review Tribunal. Similarly, the effective translation<br />

of the potential of this legislation to the real world of hospital and community interventions is vital. This<br />

will involve, amongst other actions, setting appropriate and binding service agreements with both<br />

government and non-government providers and the monitoring of these.<br />

In my opinion, this legislation is state of the art in taking a whole-of-government approach to the<br />

holistic care of people at risk of or living with mental health and substance misuse. The ability to<br />

introduce additional safeguards with due care and independent review is a prudent and responsible<br />

initiative that will need to be applied in only a small minority of instances.<br />

I join in congratulating Minister Springborg on his leadership and the rest of the team who have<br />

contributed to this leading mental health legislation. I commend this bill to the House.


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Mrs MENKENS (Burdekin—LNP) (12.05 pm): I am very happy to rise to speak in support of the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Bill and amendments to the Mental Health Act 2000. In so<br />

doing, I certainly commend the Minister for Health for his excellent work in this area. Mental health is<br />

an area that has been sorely ignored for many, many years. That will certainly not be happening<br />

under the Newman government.<br />

Appropriately, in the lead-up to International Women’s Day this week, one of the four<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> women vying for top spot in this year’s prestigious Rural Industries Research and<br />

Development Corporation’s Rural Women’s Award, which was announced this week by the Minister<br />

for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, Mr McVeigh, is a long-time advocate for rural mental health.<br />

Her name is Alison Fairleigh from Ayr, which is in the electorate of Burdekin. The state winner and<br />

runner-up titles will be announced at an award ceremony at <strong>Parliament</strong> House on Tuesday, 19 March.<br />

If successful, Alison said that she would use the $10,000 winner’s bursary to develop a pilot<br />

education program for Medicare Locals to improve access to front-line health and mental health<br />

services for farmers and farming communities. Sadly, male farmers and male farm workers have one<br />

of the highest rates of suicide in Australia. I commend Alison for her work previously and currently in<br />

highlighting these mental health issues.<br />

Across <strong>Queensland</strong> we have a number of inspirational people addressing <strong>Queensland</strong>’s mental<br />

health issues. I would also like to commend the work in my electorate of the Burdekin Mental Health<br />

Foundation and CORES—COmmunity Response to Eliminating Suicide—who, like various other<br />

community carers throughout this state, are working tirelessly at raising awareness and reducing the<br />

stigma attached to mental health.<br />

Indeed, Premier Campbell Newman and health minister Lawrence Springborg—in the Newman<br />

government’s Blueprint for Better Healthcare in <strong>Queensland</strong>—have a vision to rebuild <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Health and re-establish the state’s healthcare system as one to be admired nationally. This has the<br />

support of equally visioned LNP colleagues. The LNP blueprint is all about taking <strong>Queensland</strong> Health<br />

from repair to recovery, with the focus on placing the patient at the centre of the health system.<br />

Amendments to the Mental Health Act will do just that—place the patient at the centre of the health<br />

system.<br />

Up to half of <strong>Queensland</strong>ers will experience a mental illness or substance misuse disorder<br />

during their lifetime. For many, the disadvantage and social exclusion associated with mental health<br />

and substance misuse issues are sometimes more disabling than the illness itself. Families and loved<br />

ones also suffer. It would be fair to say that there are no families immune from these illnesses.<br />

The <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Bill 2012 establishes the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental<br />

Health Commission, the QMHC, to drive ongoing reform towards a more integrated, evidence based,<br />

recovery oriented mental health and substance misuse system. It will be responsible for leading a<br />

cultural change in the way mental health, substance misuse—which includes the misuse of alcohol<br />

and other drugs—and other human services provided to people vulnerable to or at significant risk of<br />

mental health or substance misuse issues are planned and delivered in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

The prevalence of mental illness peaks in early adulthood, with about 26 per cent of young<br />

Australians aged 16 to 24 years having experienced some form of mental illness in the past 12<br />

months. The statistics really are quite alarming and very, very sad.<br />

The main purpose of the amendments is to include two new mechanisms in the Mental Health<br />

Act to identify and respond to risks that may arise from an involuntary patient under the act<br />

absconding from an authorised mental health service. These mechanisms will enable the Director of<br />

Mental Health to take immediate action in response to a serious risk to a person or the public by<br />

suspending access to the community for a defined class of patients and create a power for the<br />

director to apply a monitoring GPS tracking device to a patient who may be at risk of absconding<br />

when they are accessing leave in the community.<br />

The amendments to the Mental Health Act 2000 are not just about patient care; they are also<br />

about the protection of innocent members of the public who may be endangered by mental health<br />

patients when they are released into our communities. A key component of treatment provided under<br />

the act is established by the limited community treatment, LCT, provisions. These provisions enable<br />

involuntary patients, both civil and forensic or classified, to access treatment and leave in the<br />

community if approval for the leave is granted by their treating authorised doctor, the Director of<br />

Mental Health, the Mental Health Court or the Mental Health Review Tribunal.


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Incidents of forensic patients absconding while on LCT highlighted insufficient capacity in the act to<br />

effectively and immediately deal with matters that suggest a system issue. Mental health is affecting<br />

our communities and, unlike the Labor government, this LNP government is not turning a blind eye.<br />

There are multiple far-reaching impacts on the quality of life of people living with mental health<br />

and substance related problems. These impacts may include interrupted education, employment and<br />

vocational opportunities, difficulty in accessing secure housing which then leads to economic<br />

insecurity, reduced community involvement and social connectedness. People with mental health or<br />

substance misuse issues are overrepresented amongst homeless and prison populations and among<br />

recipients of social services such as child protection and youth justice.<br />

It is in the balanced context of providing a high level of care to mental health patients while<br />

protecting the rights of those patients and those of the wider community that I commend health<br />

minister, Lawrence Springborg, and committee members for their work in bringing this bill before the<br />

House. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mrs OSTAPOVITCH (Stretton—LNP) (12.12 pm): I rise to speak in support of the Mental<br />

Health Commission Bill. Some of you may know that my first career was that of a psychiatric nurse. I<br />

started my training at the age of 18 at the largest mental health hospital in New South Wales, Callan<br />

Park. So I learned from experience, not just from a textbook. There were over 20 different wards all<br />

tackling a different form of mental illness. I spent time at all of them, so, believe me, I have seen it<br />

all—the good, the sad and the bad. I know better than most that, with therapy, medication and an<br />

understanding family and community, a person’s mind can be healed in just the same way as a bodily<br />

illness can. So I encourage attempts made to bring an understanding of mental illness to the broader<br />

community. However, the truth is that some people need to be locked away from society, and one our<br />

reforms tackles the issue of protecting the innocent from those with dangerous disorders absconding<br />

while on LCT, which is limited community treatment.<br />

As a former psychiatric nurse, I am always interested in seeing improvements to the system—<br />

improvements that have been suggested by stakeholders, those experienced in the industry, not<br />

some bureaucrat or an office or a textbook expert. The establishment of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental<br />

Health Commission and the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health and Drug Advisory Council can only be seen<br />

as an improvement. One of its key functions is to develop and monitor the implementation of a wholeof-government<br />

strategic plan to improve the community’s mental health and limit harm that drug and<br />

alcohol abuse causes to individuals and their families. I was astounded to hear the opposition oppose<br />

such a worthy goal. How could they not understand that only through different services acting in a<br />

coordinated way a real difference can be made? How could any reasonable person oppose attempts<br />

to improve the outcomes of those with ill mental health and vulnerable teenagers who are misled into<br />

thinking that alcohol and substance abuse will not have long-lasting effects on the brain and the<br />

body?<br />

As many human beings as there are on this planet, there are just as many ways each one of<br />

their brains forms attitudes and ways of coping with whatever life serves out to them. Developing a<br />

healthy mind in our children should be a priority. Discouraging the drinking of alcohol and the taking of<br />

drugs amongst our teens should be our priority. I listened with great interest to the statistics given at<br />

the Drug Arm workshop here at the annexe on Tuesday that highlighted the permanent damage that<br />

binge drinking does to the developing brain and the billions of dollars alcohol poisoning and alcohol<br />

fuelled violence causes government and the economy but, most of all, the cost to a mother, father,<br />

sister, brother or friend of an innocent who is murdered or left maimed every week of the year by what<br />

I call alcohol induced madness. Do you know what that statistic is? 70,000—70,000 in 2010 alone<br />

and, sadly, 16 per cent of those are assaults on children. That is over 1,000 kids, kids who will likely<br />

grow up with mental health problems or become offenders themselves. How cruel it would be to not<br />

try do something about that horrible statistic and how disappointing it was to not see one member of<br />

the opposition there at that meeting.<br />

So any opposition to our strategic plan to support initiatives designed to intervene early—<br />

indeed, to attempt to prevent mental health and substance abuse issues from emerging in the first<br />

place—is shameful and completely hypocritical to claims that they care about those with ill mental<br />

health. Well I care. Since the age of 18 I have listened to other people. My theory is that everyone just<br />

needs someone to talk to who cares enough to listen. I find it curious that after all these years since<br />

nursing, my role as a member of parliament is again one of listening.


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I encourage everyone who really cares about other people’s mental health to try to listen more,<br />

especially to our spouses, our children and our friends. And this leads me to speak of what I see as<br />

an epidemic of depression and suicide—something that has probably touched everyone here in one<br />

way or another, and I have certainly had my fair share of it. My stepfather took a rifle to his head, my<br />

husband’s grandmother hung herself and, most tragically, two dear friends’ teenage sons also took<br />

their own lives. I have to wonder whether if there had been some program similar to the RSL’s Men’s<br />

Sheds at least some of these suicides could have been prevented.<br />

I close by bringing to the attention of the opposition that this plan is a living document. It is<br />

dynamic and can be improved when new ideas with proven effectiveness come to light. In my<br />

experienced opinion, there is absolutely no downside. I commend this bill to the House.<br />

Mr HOPPER (Condamine—KAP) (12.17 pm): This is good legislation. In supporting this bill I<br />

would like to put forward a few suggestions about mental health in our rural sector. I suggest that the<br />

minister include additional specific measures to support those affected by mental illness particularly in<br />

the rural sector in <strong>Queensland</strong>. The minister is very, very aware of the push that has gone on around<br />

Cecil Plains and some of the farmers in that area who have suffered horrific floods. There are more<br />

farmers suiciding each year, more chronic depression and more substance abuse than ever before in<br />

the bush.<br />

Mental health for rural communities needs greater input particularly after the current floods and<br />

the damage that has worsened an already dire situation for an already disadvantaged rural<br />

community. Most of the carers of patients of mental illnesses are family members. Our farmers are<br />

suffering with increased production costs, labour hire constraints with the skilled workers going to the<br />

mining sector, the cost-of-living increases and the lack of stability in the marketplace for the very<br />

produce they stay out in the regions to create.<br />

With agriculture being one of the four pillars of progress in the LNP’s strategy for this state, it is<br />

very sad to see such slow and inadequate measures following in the wake of a natural disaster like<br />

the <strong>Queensland</strong> floods. There is little long-term planning to create levee banks around towns and<br />

provide strategic mapping to flood-prone land along the waterways which would assist these farmers<br />

when planting in flood-prone times of the year.<br />

Let us get down to the root causes of mental health in these areas. The DPI’s research centres<br />

where this very kind of training could have been offered are now closed. I think it is very sad. People<br />

with mental health issues are overrepresented among lower socioeconomic groups that often rent or<br />

live in parts of the community that are more likely to be flooded. As the cost of living continues to<br />

climb with the proposed sell-off of government owned corporations like our power suppliers, the<br />

reality is that these families will be left further behind, and the gap between the haves and have-nots<br />

continues to grow. We can only expect, then, an increase in mental illness.<br />

I would like to raise a situation that was brought to my attention just this morning. There are 19<br />

families in the Bundaberg region who lost their homes. They were living in caravan homes as<br />

permanent residents in a caravan park. They moved to the showgrounds to be looked after. The<br />

council is now kicking them out of the showgrounds, turning off the power and locking the toilets. I<br />

think that is absolutely disgusting. I call on the member for Bundaberg and Minister for Police to act<br />

immediately. This is right in the middle of his electorate and he should show some leadership. I have<br />

been told that he has turned a blind eye to the situation. I hope that is not true. I bring that to the<br />

attention of the Minister for Health. Nineteen families in Bundaberg have absolutely nowhere to go.<br />

The council is kicking them out of the showgrounds, locking the toilets and turning the power off.<br />

Mr GULLEY (Murrumba—LNP) (12.22 pm): I rise in support of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health<br />

Commission Bill 2012. Before I commence, I would like to acknowledge how privileged I am to have<br />

in the gallery my parents, Bruce and Jannie Gulley, or ‘oma’ and ‘opa’ as they are known in my family.<br />

Unfortunately, the member for Moggill just left the chamber as they are two very good voters in the<br />

electorate of Moggill. I apologise for giving away the intentions of my parents.<br />

Firstly, I applaud the minister on this reform. Before I talk more specifically about this bill, I see<br />

mental health as one of the last great frontiers for society to tackle. Before question time the Premier<br />

spoke about International Women’s Day. We as a society have made great progress in the equal<br />

treatment of women in the last century or so. As a society we have also made great reforms and seen<br />

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racism than previously, but in many ways I see mental health as the last great frontier for society to<br />

tackle. I applaud beyondblue and the work of Jeff Kennett in the last decade or so. He is one of the<br />

great reformers we have in Australian society. I am very pleased that the minister is tackling this<br />

important issue.<br />

In the minister’s opening remarks, he cited that one in five <strong>Queensland</strong>ers suffer a mental<br />

illness each year. I am one of six children. If you do your maths, the maths do not bode well. I will<br />

share with the chamber today that I spent my childhood with a young lady of my age who suffers from<br />

mental illness. I can share from my personal experience that mental illness is not fun. I must share<br />

with the Deputy Speaker that I scribbled out a word that I usually share to describe the life that my<br />

sister leads. It is an unparliamentary word, but it is not fun. I am very pleased that we as a society and<br />

we as a chamber are able to address some of the issues that my sibling faces.<br />

I applaud the minister for this reform. I applaud the minister for establishing the <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Mental Health Commission to drive ongoing reform towards a more integrated, evidence based<br />

mental health substance misuse government support system. In today’s speech I would like to focus<br />

on clause 11, which talks about the commission’s functions. Amongst the functions listed in clause<br />

11, the commission is charged with undertaking and commissioning research into mental health and<br />

substance abuse issues. The clause also gives functions to the commission that support and promote<br />

the wellbeing of people with mental illness and substance abuse. I support that. In particular, I want to<br />

note and focus on the provisions included in clause 11 that provide for the QMHC to contribute<br />

directly to the efforts to mitigate the negative experiences of people living with mental health and<br />

substance abuse.<br />

Clause 11 deals with empowering the new commission with the promotion of community<br />

acceptance and awareness programs to reduce stigmatism and discrimination of sufferers. At this<br />

point I would like to acknowledge that we should never forget personal responsibility. We should still<br />

expect personal responsibility from mental health and substance abuse sufferers but within the<br />

framework of a person’s capacity. That capacity is clearly different for every person on that journey.<br />

That said, society’s positive and negative attitudes and general treatment of sufferers directly<br />

influences the outcomes for sufferers. Stigma and discrimination negatively impact on sufferers’<br />

confidence to access the help that is widely available and that this commission will hopefully promote.<br />

This will be a long and potholed journey not just for the commission but for society and, most<br />

importantly, for the people whom this bill is intended to support. There are multiple layers of barriers<br />

that impede sufferers from reaching their fullest potential in life. In my maiden speech that is a topic<br />

that I spoke on. We are here to ensure that each one of us in society is able to reach their fullest<br />

potential. We in this chamber should be charged with removing those barriers.<br />

I am encouraged that clause 11 tackles issues such as individual resilience, social<br />

connectedness and quality of life. I also note that clause 11 requires the QMHC to take into account<br />

that mental health issues may impact on groups within our broad society differently. I support the<br />

direction to consider the different needs of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders, cultural and<br />

linguistic communities, and regional and remote communities.<br />

I have great confidence in the minister. After listening to the minister at the last health luncheon<br />

that we attended, I noted his comments that we are an outcomes focused government, not an input<br />

focused government. I have great confidence that the minister will tackle these issues of accessibility<br />

and delivery of mental health issues not from an input focused, tick-a-box approach but from a<br />

genuine desire for outcomes.<br />

I can vouch that mental health and substance abuse is a complex and difficult field not only for<br />

individuals but also for families and the community. Most of the bill and my speech are focused on<br />

this government’s renewed efforts to support mental health and substance abuse sufferers, but<br />

government cannot do this alone. I also note that the best outcomes come from where a sufferer<br />

exercises his or her best decisions within their own capacity and when society also comes along on<br />

that journey.<br />

The provision of mental health solutions for individuals and society will be an ongoing and<br />

never-ending task. However, that does not mean we should not give this important field the full<br />

resources and legal framework that it deserves. I applaud the minister for this important reform which<br />

I believe is one real and strong step in society’s journey to accepting and supporting sufferers of<br />

mental health and substance abuse. I commend the bill to the House.


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Mr KING (Cairns—LNP) (12.29 pm): I am very pleased to rise in this House to speak to the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Bill 2012. First I pay tribute to my parliamentary colleagues<br />

on their contribution to this bill, in particular the member for Logan and the member for Stretton who<br />

gave very personal recounts of experiences with mental illness.<br />

I wish to refocus the debate back on why this bill is so important, which is because mental<br />

illness is such a huge issue in our community, particularly in my electorate of Cairns. In the middle of<br />

2011 I was working as a journalist and I was contacted by a Cairns father Terry Carmady who wanted<br />

to tell his family story. Terry’s son John Mark Carmady did not say goodbye when he left his parents’<br />

home on the afternoon of 25 May 2011. It was just a couple of hours before his beloved <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

side were due to take the field against the blues in the first of the State of Origin clashes that year. His<br />

father, Terry, thought it was somewhat strange that his 23-year-old son walked out of the house<br />

without a word of farewell. Terry shrugged his shoulders and thought that John Mark was going to<br />

one of his regular sessions at the gym. An hour or so later, about 5 pm on this Wednesday evening,<br />

John Mark, the 23-year-old young man, sent a text message to his ex-girlfriend. John Mark asked her<br />

to tell his family that he was sorry for what he was about to do. John Mark committed suicide shortly<br />

after he sent that text message. His family buried him on 1 June 2011. He was 23 years old.<br />

During the many hours I spent with Terry Carmady and his family talking about his family’s<br />

ordeal, they showed me the order of service booklet from John Mark’s funeral. It featured an array of<br />

snapshots from his young life. There were photos of him smiling proudly in his soccer uniform as a<br />

boy and another showed him posing with his brother and sister in a family portrait. Another showed<br />

him wearing his beloved <strong>Queensland</strong> State of Origin jersey as a teenager. There was even a photo<br />

taken at the hospital shortly after his birth alongside a certificate to announce his arrival into the world<br />

on 13 April 1988—coincidentally the same day and month as my sister’s birthday.<br />

I never met John Mark, but looking at those photos was absolutely heartbreaking. He was<br />

smiling in every single photo. His family described him as a fresh-faced larrikin. They gave him the<br />

nickname ‘Sunshine’ and his mates gave him the unusual nickname of ‘Junior Burger’. His brave<br />

family and friends will carry the burden of his early death for the rest of their lives. I was and will<br />

forever be humbled by the Carmady family’s bravery and willingness to speak publicly about their loss<br />

in the hope that it can help others.<br />

When meeting the Carmady family, they told me that just a few months earlier John Mark<br />

himself was consoling a friend, a peer, through her grief after her brother, another friend who was<br />

aged in his twenties, killed himself. The suicide of John Mark was followed in Cairns by further tragic<br />

news when, at just 13 years of age, Declan Crouch took his own life in a lonely pocket of dense<br />

swampland at Machans Beach. I have spoken to Declan’s mother, Ruth Crouch, on numerous<br />

occasions since her young son’s death. I, too, commend her bravery in speaking up about the issue<br />

of youth mental illness and suicide and in launching a public appeal for awareness to improve<br />

services and support in the Far North <strong>Queensland</strong> region. I commend the health minister for providing<br />

emergency funding for the youth mental health program called the Time Out House in Cairns, for<br />

which Ruth Crouch has been a passionate advocate. This emergency funding will allow the service to<br />

seek a more sustainable long-term funding model from all levels of government.<br />

These personal encounters with this type of tragedy and many more over the years have led<br />

me to lend my full support to this bill and the establishment of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health<br />

Commission. The commission will ensure government, non-government and private sector services<br />

will work together to support people living with mental health issues and to minimise harm to people<br />

living with substance misuse issues. The commission will also operate—and I think this is an<br />

important function of the commission—as a centre of excellence around mental health and substance<br />

misuse issues and take a coordinated, integrated, whole of life span approach to care and support.<br />

The bill also provides for the appointment of a Mental Health and Drug Advisory Council to advise the<br />

commission on mental health and substance misuse issues to make formal recommendations to the<br />

commission about performance of its statutory functions.<br />

With its complex community make-up, high rates—among the highest in the state—of mental<br />

illness and traditionally low levels of support and services, Cairns and the Far North <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

region will benefit greatly from the establishment of the commission and other measures contained in<br />

this bill. It is vitally important for so many people right across <strong>Queensland</strong>, particularly those in my<br />

electorate of Cairns. I commend the bill to the House.


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Mr KNUTH (Dalrymple—KAP) (12.35 pm): The explanatory notes to the bill state—<br />

The Bill establishes the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission ... to drive ongoing reform towards a more integrated, evidence<br />

based, recovery oriented mental health and substance misuse system. It will be responsible for leading a cultural change in the<br />

way mental health, substance misuse (including misuse of alcohol and other drugs) ...<br />

I fully commend this bill and I commend the minister for bringing it in. There is a need for<br />

mental health reform and an overhaul of the mental health system, and I believe this bill does that.<br />

Out of all the issues that people face, probably the most important will be that of their health. On<br />

many occasions I have seen people worrying themselves to death or to the point where they are<br />

driven to oblivion. Rural and regional <strong>Queensland</strong> has faced many issues over the years such as rural<br />

decline. We actually held a mental health forum on the tablelands. It was surprising how many<br />

prominent people within the community came out and put themselves forward as having suffered due<br />

to mental health. It is so important to address that. Sometimes the right medication can change a<br />

person’s lifestyle or change a family and a community.<br />

When Cyclone Yasi came to North <strong>Queensland</strong> the area it hit stretched from the inland area of<br />

Charters Towers to the southern tablelands. I appreciate the work that the previous ministers did at<br />

that time. They brought out psychologists and support workers. Some people were severely affected<br />

by its impact due to the loss of property value and seeing things for which they had worked their<br />

whole life destroyed in three or four hours.<br />

It is getting harder and harder in rural and regional <strong>Queensland</strong>. We have seen the closure of<br />

our railways, the downsizing of our hospitals, the downsizing of our medical services and a lot of<br />

droughts and floods. It is important that we support these people the best way we possibly can but not<br />

look to things we can cut. The continual cutting of services or access to them can lead to these kinds<br />

of mental health problems.<br />

I commend the minister. I argued with him in relation to the closure of the Healthy Lifestyle<br />

Program at the Charters Towers Neighbourhood Centre. Two shadow ministers came to Charters<br />

Towers, went through the neighbourhood centre and said what a great service it was and then it was<br />

cut. The Healthy Lifestyle Program that was held at that centre had a lot of elderly people doing<br />

Pilates, walking and all sorts of exercises. There was proof that the health in that community<br />

improved while that program was in place.<br />

So I wanted to bring that to the minister’s attention. I believe that Men’s Sheds are a great and<br />

wonderful thing. A Men’s Shed will open within the next few weeks in Charters Towers. It is surprising<br />

not only how many participants were involved in building it but also how many people want to get<br />

involved with the Men’s Shed once it is open because they believe it is an opportunity to talk things<br />

out and to be with people who are lonely in order to help resolve mental health problems. Minister,<br />

this bill really goes a long way. It is great stuff and I fully commend the minister for the work that he<br />

has put into this. I fully commend this bill to the House.<br />

Hon. MF McARDLE (Caloundra—LNP) (Minister for Energy and Water Supply) (12.40 pm): I<br />

rise to make a contribution to the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Bill 2012. I want to start by<br />

congratulating my colleague the Minister for Health, the Hon. Lawrence Springborg, who is also a<br />

close personal friend of mine. This government came to power in March of last year and one of the<br />

tasks it had in front of it was to try to overhaul the health system to get it back into some sort of order<br />

and to provide better services for <strong>Queensland</strong>ers. The minister has taken that task by the scruff of the<br />

neck and has worked very hard to achieve exactly that. It has not been an easy task. We could have<br />

sat back and been content with the way things were, but this minister understood the necessity to go<br />

forward with a bold plan to change the culture, to change the way we do things and, more importantly,<br />

to give <strong>Queensland</strong>ers a long-term better health service. I say to him that he has done all that and<br />

more. Health is always a difficult task. With Health under the Labor government and names such as<br />

Nuttall, Robertson, Lucas and Wilson, we can begin to understand the diabolical state that this<br />

system was in under the Labor government. We can understand the issues in that when Paul Lucas<br />

was at the helm he absolutely destroyed the payroll that was to pay nurses and other Health<br />

employees on an ongoing basis and in fact delivered the exact opposite. It delivered a system that<br />

kept pay, that did not make pay, overpaid, underpaid and had a large psychological impact upon<br />

nurses.<br />

One of the major issues this state faced was the question of mental health and how we deal<br />

with the issues we face. I congratulate the minister, because clause 11 of the bill lists the<br />

commission’s functions. The first one is to prepare a whole-of-government strategic plan in the area<br />

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of-government approach to mental health. What an astonishing idea and, in my opinion, a far-sighted<br />

idea. I also congratulate the minister with regard to the advisory council being established under<br />

clause 38 and the capacity of that panel to advise the commission in relation to its functions. Clause<br />

39 shows that the membership of the panel or council is wide ranging and takes into account many<br />

diverse ideas, cultural backgrounds and also experiences. In particular, this looks at people who are<br />

the family members, the service users and support persons of those men and women in this state<br />

who do need mental health assistance. Again, this is a far-ranging and, in my opinion, long overdue<br />

approach to mental health.<br />

Many members have spoken during their contributions about personal issues they have faced.<br />

Each year I attend the suicide bereavement group annual celebration, if I can use that word, at Cotton<br />

Tree where we hear from men and women who have lost their loved ones—lost young children, their<br />

husbands, their wives or their parents—and some of the stories there are heartbreaking. I have made<br />

it abundantly clear at those meetings that the issue of suicide is one that is in plague proportions<br />

across this nation in my opinion and I have also made it quite clear that in my opinion we need to<br />

have a public debate in relation to the why of suicide, under the guidance of experts of course who<br />

can take from that debate the emotive issues associated therewith and get down to the root causes.<br />

I also join with the member for Dalrymple—and I never thought that I would hear myself making<br />

this statement—in that I agree with him with regard to Men’s Sheds. There are two in Caloundra and<br />

a number across the Sunshine Coast. They are wonderful ideas for men who are lonely, men who are<br />

elderly, men who are separated and men who are isolated to come together to have a cup of tea, to<br />

have a bit of a talk with their mates to talk through their problems and to understand the society in<br />

which they live. People come to the Sunshine Coast under the impression that they can walk into the<br />

coast, obtain a job, join a community based organisation and get the immediate friendship that they<br />

need. It does not happen. As you get older, men traditionally find it much harder to mix in society.<br />

These Men’s Sheds actually go a long way to giving men the opportunity to reconnect with men of<br />

their own age and indeed with society as a whole.<br />

It has always struck me as odd that women tend to be able to come together in simple<br />

formation such as a coffee club or having a cup of coffee down at the local coffee shop and talking<br />

through their issues, talking through their concerns. Men do not do that. Men in fact lock themselves<br />

away in their own psyche alone from society, and that starts to spiral down into mental health issues.<br />

We can learn a lot from women. They talk about any topic. I talk to my wife on a regular basis—when<br />

she is home—and she will often tell me—<br />

A government member interjected.<br />

Mr McARDLE: I take the interjection from the Leader of the House that you cannot blame her<br />

for being out. She talks to me about what she and her girlfriends talk about, and they talk about every<br />

topic under the sun. They get their issues off their chest and they get their concerns dealt with by<br />

talking to their female companions. Men do not tend to do that, and looking around at my colleagues<br />

in this House I wonder why. We do not tend to do that, and that is to the detriment of men as a whole.<br />

We need to look at and consider how women do this so successfully, and I think Men’s Sheds are a<br />

step in the right direction. Mental health should not be an issue that is kept under the carpet. Mental<br />

health should be an issue that we should be debating and talking about with our families, our children,<br />

our aunts, our uncles, our communities. When we move from the stigma of mental health, we will<br />

have the bright light of reality shone upon it and perhaps outcomes can be achieved that for so long<br />

have been required. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Hon. LJ SPRINGBORG (Southern Downs—LNP) (Minister for Health) (12.47 pm), in reply: I<br />

thank all honourable members who have participated in this debate from all sides of the chamber,<br />

particularly those who have shared so many personal and very passionate and very close<br />

experiences, because this can be a very difficult topic. Today I am going to start by responding in<br />

reverse order, and I also want to very much commend my friend and former shadow minister for<br />

health, Mark McArdle, the member for Caloundra. As I said, he was the opposition’s health<br />

spokesman prior to the last state election. He did so much wonderful work in preparing the<br />

groundwork for the reforms and the innovations which we are now bringing through this place and<br />

that we are making systematically as we reform the health system in <strong>Queensland</strong>. I also want to very<br />

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to the establishment of a Mental Health Commission—something which he promised to the people of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> at the last state election and something that, by the end of today based upon the good<br />

grace of this House, will pass through all of its full stages.<br />

Everyone in this place has been touched by somebody close to them with mental health issues,<br />

and it can be in a relatively small way or in the most tragic of circumstances, and I am no different. If<br />

we look at the statistics which are the reality, each single year in Australia one in five people have<br />

some form of mental health incident. Indeed in the course of their lifetime, one in two Australians—<br />

half of Australians—will have a major mental health event. I suppose in this day and age we talk more<br />

about it, we understand it more and we disclose it more, which is very much important. It is very<br />

difficult to try to suggest, ascertain or even hypothesise if the incidence of mental health issues in our<br />

community and negative outcomes is greater today than it was 100 or 200 years ago. I suppose we<br />

will never know.<br />

As a society, we are now far more open. We talk about these things. Therefore, we may be<br />

identifying things that have been an embedded part of humanity for such a long period. I note what<br />

the honourable member for Logan said yesterday in relation to returned service personnel. If one<br />

goes back 50, 60, 100 years, returned servicemen came back and did not talk about things. They sat<br />

in the corner, they drank, and they drank themselves to death. That was the reality. As a society, we<br />

were not aware and did not necessarily understand what was going on.<br />

The honourable member for Dalrymple talked about the importance of health. Health is an<br />

extremely important issue. As I say to my own children, there are probably three or four things in your<br />

day-to-day life that you can determine absolutely. One is your reputation. If you step into politics it can<br />

be destroyed unfairly, but you can build a reputation and can be largely responsible for how that<br />

reputation is received. The way in which you treat other people is something that you are totally in<br />

control of and, indeed, you can have a major influence over your own health. You can do that by the<br />

sorts of things and the decisions that you make and a lot of health outcomes that are negative can be<br />

preventable. I am talking about serious, chronic disease related to diet and lack of exercise. I also<br />

understand that when it comes to mental health, maintaining your mental health could be a little bit<br />

more complex, but there are things that we can do to assist ourselves along the way.<br />

I also support what the member for Dalrymple and the honourable member for Caloundra said<br />

when they both reflected upon the importance of Men’s Sheds. Indeed, I will touch briefly on the<br />

Healthy Lifestyle Program that the honourable member for Dalrymple mentioned in his community.<br />

We have reviewed funding in <strong>Queensland</strong> for the way in which we support certain organisations. That<br />

support is going to be very much based around not only whether someone feels good about a<br />

program but also whether a program is delivering its key service objectives. If it is about addressing a<br />

particular problem in the community such as chronic disease, obesity, health and wellbeing—those<br />

sorts of things—we will be putting real measurables around them that will be performance monitored.<br />

If we are not going to deliver outcomes, then the funding will not be available.<br />

The honourable member for Cairns touched on a theme that I think was flowing through the<br />

contributions of a number of members and that is the importance of youth mental health. The member<br />

mentioned the steps that we took recently to provide some interim funding for a pilot program for<br />

youth mental health in Cairns, which was transitioned from another department to my department. We<br />

have been able to find funding for that youth mental health facility to operate for at least the next six<br />

months. Youth mental health is a most unbelievably sad tragedy in our community. Unfortunately, it is<br />

something that pervades and is pervading at a much greater rate and has an even more profound<br />

effect than the broader context of suicide, because it happens to someone so young, someone who<br />

seems to have their whole life before them. Yet they are in such a hopeless place that they take their<br />

life because their illness has been unsupported or has not been detected beforehand. In my own<br />

personal cases, probably in one we knew something was happening but did not know what to do<br />

about it and with another one that was very close to my family we did not know or even could<br />

understand the warning signs until later. I can really understand how members feel about that issue.<br />

The honourable member for Murrumba said that mental health and tackling it is the last great<br />

frontier. That is a bold statement but certainly it is a challenging frontier for us in Health. Indeed, if one<br />

looks at the figures the issue is certainly going beyond an epidemic and one hopes that it never<br />

becomes a pandemic. But in many ways we believe it will be addressed by the functions of the Mental<br />

Health Commission. The Mental Health Commission is not going to be a panacea but it certainly<br />

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in a way that has never been done before. We believe that that is going to not only better utilise<br />

resources but also assist us in being able to better support people who have real needs with mental<br />

health issues.<br />

The honourable member for Murrumba in his contribution also picked up on the thread that<br />

there is a real opportunity for greater self responsibility. We know that some people cannot always be<br />

responsible, but there are certain things that can be done. We know that alcohol and drugs are major<br />

factors with regard to mental illness. People seek them out themselves. They make these choices<br />

and they are choices that destroy their lives. There needs to be a greater understanding of the<br />

decisions that people can make that ultimately effect a negative mental health outcome. So we<br />

appeal to people to be more responsible. Indeed, we also need to build resilience and coping in our<br />

society. When I speak to people who are experts in the field of psychiatry and psychology they say<br />

that people often say, ‘I don’t feel right about this bad space in my life,’ and basically want a pill to<br />

make it better. Sometimes life has its little trials. It is about how we can skill people to cope and have<br />

resilience and put things in context and understand that not everything in life always goes the way<br />

they expect it to be. I think that is one of the great challenges as we try to address this issue in the<br />

future.<br />

The honourable member for Cunningham talked about the issue of mental health in the rural<br />

sector. We all understand that. Recently, we have had the impacts of the floods. I can say to the<br />

honourable member that it is an issue that we are concerned about and it is an issue that we are<br />

resourcing appropriately. Indeed, in the most affected communities in the Wide Bay we have<br />

relocated and made available an additional 20 mental health professionals to support those people in<br />

that community. So we are serious about the issue and we are delivering on it.<br />

The honourable member for Stretton talked about the important issue of coordination and the<br />

effects of alcohol and drugs. The honourable member for Burdekin touched on the blueprint and how<br />

that sets the framework for the way in which we are going to reform health care in <strong>Queensland</strong> in the<br />

future. Mental health is a very important part of that framework. The member also talked about one of<br />

the underlying inhibitors and that is the fact that we have to change the culture, both internally and<br />

externally, to be able to get ahead of the curve on a range of these health challenges. The<br />

honourable member for Stafford talked about legal safeguards, in particular for people who would be<br />

subject to the provisions of this legislation with regard to the amendments to the Mental Health Act.<br />

That was a theme that was picked up by other members in their contributions. The member for<br />

Stafford also referred to the fact that the Mental Health Commission is going to have to be very much<br />

performance monitored to make sure that it is delivering real outcomes. That is the purpose of it.<br />

The member for Pumicestone talked about collaboration and again talked about the<br />

experiences of depression—something which so many people who are close to her and others in this<br />

place experience from time to time. The member for Gregory, again in his usual very passionate way,<br />

talked about his own personal experiences and the effects of drugs, which was a common theme<br />

throughout the contributions, and the personal effects of suicide of people he has known and who<br />

have been very close to him. The member for Pine Rivers talked about the relative disadvantage in<br />

our society that leads to negative mental health outcomes. That is something we can all understand.<br />

It is important to ensure that we resource the Mental Health Commission appropriately and all the<br />

other support agencies. I will come back to that later when I speak in response to the contribution by<br />

the shadow minister. Resourcing is not everything; it is what you do with the resources that are<br />

allocated that is the most important thing. You can throw a whole lot of money at a problem and get<br />

no outcomes or you could throw a whole lot of ideas and very smart clinical designs and get very<br />

good outcomes from the money that you allocate. The member for Mount Coot-tha talked about the<br />

effects of social exclusion and, again, her personal experiences with members of her family.<br />

The member for Gaven talked about a lot of things. Indeed, I think it is very important that I<br />

respond to some of those issues that he raised, because I think the honourable member for Gaven<br />

did not specifically understand the application of the legislation and how the amendments to the<br />

Mental Health Act fit into the overall framework of the Mental Health Act and all the checks and<br />

balances and all the safeguards that limit the capacity to impede and impact the proper rights of<br />

mentally ill people. We put the amendments to the Mental Health Act into this legislation as this was<br />

the first available opportunity. It is not an omnibus bill. It sets up the Mental Health Commission and it<br />

contains amendments to the Mental Health Act, which are very important given the timeliness of<br />

some of the challenges that we have faced recently. Obviously, there will be scrutiny of the Mental<br />

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The member for Gaven asked, ‘How does this interrelate with regard to the national Mental<br />

Health Commission and its legislation?’ The national Mental Health Commission is not established as<br />

a creature of legislation; it is a creature of the Prime Minister’s own policy objectives. So it is not<br />

established by legislation. I would ask the honourable member to do his research a little better. The<br />

important point to note is that the Mental Health Commission in <strong>Queensland</strong> will tie in with the aims<br />

and objectives of the Mental Health Commission at a national level. They are duty bound to<br />

collaborate.<br />

After talking about the disadvantage of people with mental health issues in <strong>Queensland</strong>, the<br />

member for Gaven went on to describe forensic patients as ‘hopeless, mentally incapable’. I would<br />

think there is an enormous contradiction between expressing compassion for people who are<br />

mentally ill and using the term of ‘hopeless, mentally incapable’, because many of these people go to<br />

have their first treatment experience and end up being cured and never having another incident. I<br />

think the member for Gaven needs to choose his words more judiciously.<br />

Debate, on motion of Mr Springborg, adjourned.<br />

Sitting suspended from 1.00 pm to 2.30 pm.<br />

PRIVATE MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS<br />

Police Citizens Youth Club<br />

Mrs OSTAPOVITCH (Stretton—LNP) (2.30 pm): I rise to speak in support of the PCYC. As<br />

there is no PCYC in my electorate of Stretton I frequently support the closest one to me which is<br />

Logan Central. I have been involved with the team for well over 10 years and have been a corporate<br />

member of the PCYC for about six years. At the next sitting of parliament I will be bringing in<br />

corporate membership forms and I will be asking for members to join and support the PCYC with a<br />

$30 per annum investment into the future of our youth.<br />

There is something seriously wrong with a society that enables misguided youth to live a life of<br />

crime and/or violence by giving them slaps on the wrist and teaching them disrespect for authority.<br />

Any parent knows that a child will always push the boundaries and that swift and effective punishment<br />

will almost always result in stopping repeat behaviour. I am a strong supporter of prevention.<br />

Mentoring is by far the most effective way to help a young person from taking the road to destruction<br />

and self-abuse. About eight years ago at a Boystown mentoring program I heard that it only takes one<br />

significant adult in a young person’s life to completely change their lives. That is when I committed to<br />

being a mentor. I encourage everyone here to consider being a mentor to a young person and if you<br />

cannot do that then please support the PCYC or a similar organisation because as far as I can see<br />

they are the only hope that some of these kids have. They give bored kids something to do with their<br />

afternoon by offering opportunities to learn new skills and participate in sport and healthy activities.<br />

They are also the facilitators of the Breaking the Cycle program which helped 18 teenagers get their<br />

licences.<br />

I am pleased to announce that on 5 April I will again be participating in Doing Time for Youth<br />

Crime Awareness and this year I will be in Boggo Road jail with my friend Sergeant Jim Bellos. I am<br />

in good company with the <strong>Queensland</strong>er of the Year award winner. May I ask my colleagues to<br />

support my time in jail and get me out quickly—although last year someone actually paid to keep me<br />

in jail! Either way, please get behind me and the PCYC. Thank you.<br />

Colleges Crossing<br />

Dr FLEGG (Moggill—LNP) (2.33 pm): Colleges Crossing on state controlled Mount Crosby<br />

Road is familiar to most <strong>Queensland</strong>ers from the traffic reports in recent years where it is announced<br />

that the crossing is closed due to flooding. Downstream is the Moggill Ferry which invariably is also<br />

closed at the same time. Colleges Crossing is no small rural road, as the previous Labor government<br />

claimed. It is, in fact, a state controlled road linking Brisbane with Ipswich and carrying some 11,000<br />

cars a day—although traffic counts have dropped a bit in the last couple of years not surprisingly<br />

because it has been closed so often. This is a vital link for our community—people live on one side of


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the river and work or attend school on the other—as well as for the broader community of Western<br />

Brisbane and Ipswich for whom this is the major link between these two major South-East<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> cities.<br />

The fact that nothing has been done is another reflection of the years of neglect that we have<br />

had under the Labor government. Some $14-odd million was spent by local government in flood<br />

reconstruction of the park adjoining Colleges Crossing which was washed away shortly after its<br />

completion—another good example of what the LNP have been banging on about: that we should not<br />

just be rebuilding things after a flood but we should do them bigger and better. This crossing has no<br />

pedestrian crossing, despite tens of thousands of people living on either side of it. It has no safe cycle<br />

link. It is just a river-surface level causeway. This is a very, very big issue for the constituents of<br />

Moggill and Ipswich West as well as the broader communities around them. This area has no public<br />

transport whatsoever and Moggill Road is one of the worst commute roads if one has to go down<br />

Moggill Road to go over the Jindalee bridge. Emergency services are frequently disrupted.<br />

I have written to the Premier and to the transport minister in relation to this issue. We are very<br />

keen to see some long-term planning. It would be highly desirable and appropriate to study the<br />

options of an elevated causeway or a bridge which might stop the constant dislocation of these<br />

communities. I have extended an invitation from myself and the member for Ipswich West to the<br />

transport minister to come down and meet with our community to have a look and discuss this issue. I<br />

look forward to his response to that invitation. I leave members with the question: where else do we<br />

have a major state controlled road carrying 11,000 cars a day that is closed at the drop of a hat every<br />

time it rains?<br />

Debate, on motion of Mr Stevens, adjourned.<br />

PARLIAMENTARY CRIME AND MISCONDUCT COMMITTEE<br />

Statement Regarding the CMC’s Release and Destruction of Fitzgerald Inquiry<br />

Documents<br />

Mrs CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—Ind) (2.36 pm), by leave: Section 2.47 of the then Criminal<br />

Justice Act 1989 provided that the Criminal Justice Commission, the CJC, was to assume possession<br />

and control of all databases and records documents relating to the Commission of Inquiry into<br />

Possible Illegal Activities and Associated Police Misconduct, more commonly known as the Fitzgerald<br />

inquiry.<br />

The Crime and Misconduct Commission, the CMC, is now the owner of the documents relating<br />

to the Fitzgerald inquiry. The committee understands that the CMC transferred these documents from<br />

the CMC premises to the State Archives between August 2007 and March 2009. The <strong>Parliament</strong>ary<br />

Crime and Misconduct Committee became aware that the CMC had, in error, classified some material<br />

as accessible to the public when that material should not, because of its nature, be public.<br />

The committee called an urgent meeting with the CMC yesterday to obtain answers from the<br />

chairperson of the CMC as to how this happened. Yesterday the chairperson of the CMC was unable<br />

to adequately explain to the committee exactly how or why this had occurred. The chairperson of the<br />

CMC advised the committee that the CMC became aware of the public release of the documents<br />

around May 2012 when a former CJC officer provided advice to the CMC about the public availability<br />

of the documents. Yesterday the chairperson of the CMC was also unable to adequately advise the<br />

committee as to which documents were released other than that they belonged to a series of<br />

documents within the Fitzgerald inquiry documents, whether the documents had been widely viewed<br />

by the public or whether copies had been taken of these documents.<br />

Given the sensitive nature of the documents and the need for further detailed information, the<br />

committee directed the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong> to issue a summons for the State Archivist to attend<br />

before the committee. That summons required the State Archivist to produce all documentation in her<br />

possession which would reveal the nature of the documents that were released, the documents that<br />

have been viewed, who viewed the documents and whether any copies of the documents were or<br />

were able to be taken.<br />

The State Archivist appeared before the committee earlier today. The committee is considering<br />

the evidence and information she has provided and I advise the parliament that that hearing is<br />

continuing. The committee received further advice from the chairperson of the CMC yesterday that, in


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addition to the public release of confidential Fitzgerald inquiry documents, the CMC has also<br />

destroyed a number of confidential Fitzgerald documents. The committee understands that these files<br />

contained intelligence information and were used by the then newly established Criminal Justice<br />

Commission to commence investigations into the information provided in those documents. The<br />

committee has required the CMC to provide further information to the committee about what<br />

documents were destroyed and how and why this occurred.<br />

The committee considers that the CMC had multiple opportunities to advise the committee of<br />

the publication of these documents since May 2012 when it first became aware of the matter. The<br />

committee holds serious concerns that the CMC did not inform the committee of these events until<br />

late on 5 March 2013. The committee is not satisfied with the response from the chairperson of the<br />

CMC that he advised CMC officers to ‘fix it’ in May 2012 as there seems to have been no follow up<br />

action to ensure the ‘fix’ by the CMC was appropriate to the circumstances. The committee<br />

understands from the chairperson of the CMC that the CMC did not act to address the matter until<br />

September 2012. It is clear that the CMC did not act to ensure that the matter was appropriately<br />

addressed.<br />

The committee considers that the lack of advice to the committee by the CMC prior to the<br />

articles in the Australian is wholly inappropriate given the reporting obligations of the CMC to inform<br />

the committee of significant matters. The committee will carefully consider its options in relation to the<br />

lack of governance within the CMC and the lack of accountability in not advising the committee at an<br />

earlier time in relation to these matters.<br />

The committee understands the unacceptable situation that has arisen requires a swift,<br />

effective response. The committee is considering all options and is in discussions with the Attorney-<br />

General in this regard.<br />

The committee has referred this matter to the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct<br />

Commissioner for a thorough and independent investigation. The parliamentary commissioner’s<br />

investigation will focus on the release and the destruction of the documents. The commissioner is an<br />

officer of the parliament, independent of the CMC. The committee expects the parliamentary<br />

commissioner’s investigation to address the state of knowledge and the roles of CMC officers in<br />

relation to the reclassification and subsequent release and the shredding of the Fitzgerald documents.<br />

This should include the governance and accountability mechanisms within the CMC to prevent<br />

matters like this from reoccurring.<br />

In relation to the release of the Fitzgerald documents, the committee seeks information on: the<br />

circumstances of and authorisation relating to the reclassification of the documents which led to the<br />

release; when the advice was received from a former CJC officer as to inappropriate release of the<br />

documents; why it took a further four months to action a response; and why there was an inadequate<br />

response which continued to allow the public access to a wide range of documents. The committee<br />

will also be looking to see if this error by the CMC has been repeated and whether there are other<br />

confidential documents in relation to any other matters that may have been released publicly in similar<br />

circumstances.<br />

The committee also expects the parliamentary commissioner’s report will address the<br />

knowledge and actions of CMC officers in relation to the shredding of the Fitzgerald inquiry<br />

documents, including when it occurred, the internal procedures of the CMC in relation to the<br />

shredding of the CMC files, and the knowledge, roles and actions of CMC officers in this regard. The<br />

committee is prepared to use its extensive powers to ensure this matter is thoroughly investigated.<br />

The committee will inform the House of further developments in this matter as appropriate.<br />

Resumed from p. 502.<br />

PRIVATE MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS<br />

Whiskey Au Go Go Nightclub<br />

Mr WELLINGTON (Nicklin—Ind) (2.43 pm): Some time ago I was asked to speak to some new<br />

information that has come to light involving circumstances surrounding the firebombing of the<br />

Whiskey Au Go Go nightclub in the Fortitude Valley some 40 years ago. It was originally intended that


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today would be the most appropriate day that I would speak to this new information. Last month I<br />

received approval from the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong> and the Speaker of <strong>Parliament</strong> to refer to this new<br />

information, which identified people and new evidence worthy of being tested in an appropriate court,<br />

be it the resumption of the original coroner’s inquest, which was adjourned after a few days, or a new<br />

judicial inquiry.<br />

I am a member of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee that has oversight of<br />

the Crime and Misconduct Commission, which is now investigating various Fitzgerald inquiry matters.<br />

This morning the Attorney-General referred to this investigation in parliament. I have taken advice<br />

from the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee and the Clerk of the <strong>Parliament</strong> and, in light<br />

of information that has now come to my attention as a result of my membership of this committee and<br />

in light of possible action this committee may take as a result of this ongoing investigation, I am now<br />

no longer able to refer to this new information in this chamber as originally intended.<br />

As a result of these new developments, I will now write to the Attorney-General referring to this<br />

new information and requesting that the Attorney-General investigate the information as quickly as<br />

possible. I note that the Attorney-General is in the chamber at the moment.<br />

Petrie, Amcor Cartonboard Mill<br />

Mr HOLSWICH (Pine Rivers—LNP) (2.45 pm): Around two weeks ago, the Pine Rivers<br />

community received the devastating news that Amcor will close its Petrie cartonboard mill by the end<br />

of 2013. The direct result for our local community is the loss of 220 local jobs. The closure will not<br />

only impact those 220 workers but also have a significant flow-on effect to hundreds of local<br />

businesses and contractors. There are three particularly frustrating aspects to this closure<br />

announcement. The first is that Amcor has cited rising energy costs as one of the reasons for closing<br />

the mill. If we ever needed a local reminder of the devastating consequences of Labor’s toxic carbon<br />

tax on local manufacturing, this is a slap-in-the-face reminder.<br />

The second frustrating aspect of the closure is that some of the products produced by the<br />

Petrie mill will now most likely be produced overseas. Yet again we wave goodbye to more Australian<br />

manufacturing jobs. The manufacturing industry employs around 2,500 people in my electorate and<br />

represents around 10 per cent of the jobs and businesses in Pine Rivers. We cannot afford to see<br />

more and more manufacturing jobs leave our shores.<br />

The final frustrating aspect of the closure is the dismissive response of federal Labor to this<br />

decision. When the issue was raised with Bill Shorten, his only response was to trot out the list of<br />

government funded employment services that Amcor employees could access once they are<br />

unemployed. Instead of taking the opportunity to be proactive and provide solutions, Mr Shorten and<br />

federal Labor are content to fold their arms and not get involved.<br />

While that might be the Labor way, today I reassure Amcor workers that their LNP<br />

representatives will not sit idly by and just watch this happen. Last week, the Hon. Peter Dutton, the<br />

member for Kallangur and I jointly announced that we will be coordinating a local careers expo in<br />

July, with Amcor employees specifically in mind. We will be running an expo that focuses on<br />

empowering Amcor employees and other local job seekers to find suitable, sustainable, local<br />

employment. We will offer Amcor employees resume writing assistance. We will offer one-on-one<br />

training in job interview techniques. We will provide career planning opportunities and we will link<br />

them with ongoing assistance and local jobs. Working collaboratively with key stakeholders, we will<br />

run an expo that will provide tangible assistance to Amcor employees, as well as other local job<br />

seekers.<br />

I have stated that one of my key priorities for 2013 is to support local businesses to bring more<br />

jobs into Pine Rivers. I have no doubt that this careers expo will be a catalyst for growth in local<br />

businesses. I am committed to building a better Pine Rivers, I am committed to empowering our local<br />

committee and, whilst losing 220 local jobs in one hit is a setback, I know the strength and<br />

determination of our local business community will pull us through this tough patch and towards a<br />

better future.


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Woodridge<br />

Mrs SCOTT (Woodridge—ALP) (2.48 pm): Modern Australia is a country with a history built on<br />

dispossession, massacres, disempowerment, stolen lands, enforced labour, stolen wages, attempts<br />

to eradicate native tongue and, until recent history, even failing to recognise our first nation people as<br />

citizens. However, scattered throughout our history since settlement there are also early stories of<br />

friendships and of bravery on both sides to heal and to forge better relationships. It is against this<br />

backdrop that some in our Aboriginal community, when they see injustices and particularly the deaths<br />

of some of their people, experience an overwhelming sense of loss and hurt, bringing past injustices<br />

to the fore. In January when hostilities erupted in Douglas Street, what we saw on our television<br />

screens was not racially motivated. Rather, it was a combination of taking retribution for damage to a<br />

vehicle, both families feeling aggrieved, the effects of social media to draw in supporters on both<br />

sides, the heightened media coverage and a sense of fear, allowing the issues to spiral out of control.<br />

The result was to bring to the surface many of the deeply held grievances mounting within our<br />

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. To the many who live and work in Logan City, and in<br />

particular in Woodridge, the scenario was distressing and depicted our beautiful community as<br />

dysfunctional and dangerous.<br />

In the following week I attended two meetings. One was convened by MultiLink to facilitate an<br />

apology from the Tongan family involved in the incident. A number of Aboriginal people attended who<br />

were not actually involved in the incident. However, I listened to a number of the young Tongan men<br />

involved speak at length and give a sincere apology to the family involved and to our community.<br />

That night I attended a packed hall with many of our local Aboriginal people and supporters<br />

from other areas. I sat and listened intently for it was very clear that people were hurting and grieving.<br />

They were not only disturbed about the Douglas Street incident, but they were extremely distressed<br />

and grieving for a number of their family members who had tragically passed away in recent years<br />

through other violent means and altercations. It was a very sobering insight for me to sit quietly and<br />

listen to those who spoke with such hurt and such passion.<br />

With now over 200 separate cultures, our community is young and vibrant, with many migrants<br />

and refugees joining our long-time residents who have raised their families here and would never<br />

consider living elsewhere. Our community now has a journey to take. Much consultation has already<br />

commenced and I will keep this House informed as we progress through engagement to action.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Mundingburra Electorate, Youth Crime<br />

Hon. DF CRISAFULLI (Mundingburra—LNP) (Minister for Local Government, Community<br />

Recovery and Resilience) (2.51 pm): I rise to speak on an issue that I have spoken about before in<br />

this House and will continue to speak about until we get action. It is the issue of youth crime. I<br />

acknowledge the presence in the chamber of the Attorney—it is great to have him here and he has<br />

been a great supporter—and, most importantly, pardon the pun, my two partners in crime from the<br />

north, the member for Townsville and the member for Thuringowa.<br />

I have spoken before about the issues of violence, bullying and robberies. Today I want to talk<br />

about vehicle theft and some of the high-speed chases that are going on in our great city. I must<br />

acknowledge the work that the Attorney has done. In August we increased penalties for motorists<br />

attempting to outrun police to a mandatory $5,500 fine and a two-year loss of licence. Late last year<br />

some of the nation’s toughest anti-hooning laws, which sees dangerous drivers facing the prospect of<br />

their car being crashed or forfeited if they are caught hooning twice within five years, came in. They<br />

could not have come soon enough and there is a long way to go.<br />

Recent figures show that vehicle thefts in <strong>Queensland</strong> have increased at a rate of knots over<br />

the last five years. But it is on the ground where I am truly blown away by some of the stories. I was in<br />

a taxi the other night and I asked the driver how often he worked. He said he worked seven nights a<br />

week. I asked why he had such dedication. He said because they are struggling to get drivers<br />

because of the concern that young hoodlums are racing around in stolen motor vehicles.<br />

Today I would like to start a conversation in my community about police pursuits. It is an issue<br />

that the commissioner and the minister have said will be discussed over the course of this year, and I<br />

welcome that. I will always back the police officers with their knowledge on the ground. What I have


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seen in recent times though is a culture where these little grubs taunt police. They go up beside<br />

police, spin their wheels and rev their engines and know that they can speed away because they are<br />

a protected species. That has to end.<br />

I understand that we need to find a balance between the tragedy of an innocent person being<br />

killed in a chase and the open slather that is occurring now. I suppose the question to my community<br />

is: is the risk of having these turkeys racing around at 200 kilometres an hour on suburban streets a<br />

greater danger than a police pursuit or the threat of a police pursuit? That is the question I want to<br />

pose today.<br />

Has the pendulum swung too far in the other direction? It is a conversation we must have. It is<br />

something that the officers on the ground are best placed to make a decision on. I would hope that<br />

their input is paramount as this debate unfolds. Above all, all I want is a safe city for my kids to be<br />

able to drive around in into the future.<br />

Public Transport, Buses<br />

Ms TRAD (South Brisbane—ALP) (2.54 pm): I rise to speak about the shambles that is the<br />

Newman government’s bus review. In July last year the transport minister announced that he had<br />

instructed TransLink to review all bus services in South-East <strong>Queensland</strong>, with the final report to be<br />

delivered within six months. Eight months later and today the transport minister has finally released<br />

his shambolic response.<br />

The LNP’s review was based on only two criteria—patronage and cost benefit. This sounds<br />

great in a news grab, but it leaves no room to help those who need it most—pensioners who catch a<br />

bus to the doctors or students who travel to their weekend jobs. The daytime and weekend services<br />

these <strong>Queensland</strong>ers rely on are not always full, but they are essential.<br />

Based on this flawed reasoning, today we find out that the government is axing 111 routes, with<br />

massive cuts to frequency and running times. It was little wonder, given the extent of the savage cuts,<br />

that the recommendations were only open for community feedback for two weeks right before<br />

Christmas. That is right, the extent of this government’s consultation was sticking its plan on a<br />

difficult-to-use website for two weeks and hoping people would accidentally stumble upon it.<br />

The LNP has left commuters behind on this issue. <strong>Queensland</strong> commuters even after today’s<br />

announcement are left wondering when their routes will be cut and how they will be affected. That is<br />

why this week Labor launched a petition calling on the Newman LNP government to stop the cuts to<br />

local bus services. Any cuts to services will only hurt those most in need of accessible and reliable<br />

public transport.<br />

Mr Minnikin interjected.<br />

Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER (Miss Barton): Order! Member for Chatsworth, the member for<br />

South Brisbane is not taking your interjections and I would ask you to please stop interjecting across<br />

the chamber and let her be heard in silence. The member for South Brisbane has the call.<br />

Ms TRAD: Any cuts to services will only hurt those most in need of accessible and reliable<br />

public transport—pensioners, students, families; particularly those with lower incomes. Within 24<br />

hours of launching the petitions we have beaten our goal of 500 signatures. At last count the total was<br />

628. Indeed, earlier today I did table in this House a petition with over 800 signatures from those in<br />

the bay suburbs.<br />

There is no doubt that our public transport network should continually be reviewed to ensure<br />

efficiency and effectiveness, but when you conduct a review you should actually talk to the people<br />

who are going to be affected. Clearly, those opposite—particularly the transport minister and the<br />

assistant minister—do not want to listen to the concerns of working <strong>Queensland</strong>ers. They will not<br />

listen to bus drivers about bus safety and now they will not listen to commuters before they cut the<br />

buses—<br />

Mr Minnikin interjected.<br />

Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Member for Chatsworth, I have asked you to stop<br />

interjecting across the chamber and have told you that the member for South Brisbane is not taking<br />

interjections. I would ask that you please heed my ruling. The member for South Brisbane has the<br />

call.


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Ms TRAD: The minister and assistant minister will not listen to bus drivers about bus safety<br />

and now they will not listen to commuters before they cut the buses they rely upon.<br />

Public transport, just like public health or public education, should not be about turning a<br />

profit—it should be about people. Quite frankly, what is happening here is this government is running<br />

down the public transport system to sell it to the highest bidder. It is plain and clear for all to see.<br />

Mr Bleijie interjected.<br />

Madam DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Mr Attorney, you are not in your correct seat!<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Plan<br />

Mr SHUTTLEWORTH (Ferny Grove—LNP) (2.57 pm): I rise this afternoon to speak briefly<br />

about my support for the <strong>Queensland</strong> Plan and encourage my 88 colleagues in this House to provide<br />

support to the <strong>Queensland</strong> Plan. We heard earlier today about the collaborative and inclusive<br />

approach to undertake a review and determine the 30-year future for <strong>Queensland</strong>. I would like to<br />

briefly outline why I am speaking today—the day when obviously everyone has had a briefing on this.<br />

After the Premier made his announcement I thought straight off the bat that this was going to<br />

be an initiative where we could all at a local level engage very actively and efficiently with our<br />

communities to bring them along on this very exciting ride of looking at the future in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

What we have produced in Ferny Grove is a brochure that went to the distributor on Monday of this<br />

week. Around 12,000 brochures will be delivered over the course of the weekend and early next<br />

week. We have also purchased full-page ads in the local papers—the Samford Village Pump and the<br />

Hills Echo. Hopefully this will ensure there is blanket coverage across the electorate inviting all<br />

members of the electorate, from whichever politic sphere or whichever community group they<br />

represent, to engage actively with my office and express their concern about the way we are heading<br />

or how they would like the future to unravel.<br />

As a result of that, in late April I will be holding a community forum at one of the local school<br />

halls, the Ralph Took Auditorium, which holds about 350 people. I am very encouraged by the early<br />

indications that we already have a number of people registering their interest. Hopefully as a result of<br />

the survey, which will go out this coming week, we will receive a number of initiatives across a<br />

number of departments and we will be able to establish smaller, focused groups to fully develop their<br />

plan that we will be able to take to the summit in Mackay in May and also to the second summit later<br />

in the year in September.<br />

As I said, I am very encouraged by the early indications of interest throughout the community. I<br />

actively encourage all 88 of my colleagues in this House to also engage with their local electorates to<br />

ensure that at the end of this process we have a very meaningful, collaborative and inclusive design<br />

for the future of <strong>Queensland</strong> that will be to the betterment of all of our local districts as well.<br />

South-East <strong>Queensland</strong>, Waterways<br />

Ms MILLARD (Sandgate—LNP) (3.00 pm): I rise today in the House to speak about a topic<br />

that has long been close to me and that clearly affects the Sandgate electorate—and that is<br />

protecting South-East <strong>Queensland</strong>’s waterways. It has been estimated that the waterways of South-<br />

East <strong>Queensland</strong> have environmental, social and economic values worth around $5 billion each year,<br />

so keeping our waterways healthy for recreational use and ecological sustainability is a weighty issue.<br />

Unhealthy waterways are costly on many levels, and this has attracted the attention of all three levels<br />

of government through many programs and numerous buckets of money, and with engagement from<br />

a range of experts.<br />

Cabbage Tree Creek catchment, which covers 45 square kilometres through the residential<br />

and industrial areas of northern Brisbane to Moreton Bay, has had its own fair share of attention.<br />

Nonetheless, having been a Sandgate local for 15 years and from my very early days of pre-election<br />

campaigning, it became clear that programs for our local waterways were numerous, disparate,<br />

lacked coordination, involved limited community consultation and indicated some duplication. And<br />

before I make it sound like the answers are all very simple, let me make it clear that my own factfinding<br />

mission has been a little like sweeping the leaves from the forest floor. Snippets of information<br />

keep falling and you can never quite get the clean-up started, but one has to start somewhere and I<br />

have done just that.<br />

So what is an MP like me who is not a water expert doing dabbling in water issues? I am<br />

working for my community and, despite routine water testing by our local council, upgrades to the<br />

Sandgate sewerage plant and a newly introduced SMS warning system, which are all appropriate and


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good activities, Cabbage Tree Creek still endures unacceptably high bacteria levels—a result of D to<br />

F on our healthy waterways report card for at least the last seven years, which is a definite fail. This is<br />

where I am reminded that the state government ultimately has constitutional rights to our water and<br />

that we must remain the regulator and overseer of healthy waterways.<br />

I recall the words of our Minister for Environment and Heritage Protection and member for<br />

Glass House, Minister Powell, when he spoke about the state government’s recent contribution of<br />

$4.6 million in case and in kind investment towards improving South-East <strong>Queensland</strong> waterways—<br />

We need to continue to strengthen partnerships, and investments in collaborative programs, to reduce water pollution loads<br />

and restore degraded waterways. The future of Moreton Bay and the region’s waterways and beaches, depends on this.<br />

On my part, I was pleased last week to chair, with the support of the Department of<br />

Environment and Heritage Protection, a stakeholder group with 15 participants from groups including<br />

Healthy Waterways, Northern Catchments Network, Maritime Services <strong>Queensland</strong> and community<br />

representatives from our local bayside suburbs, and other groups with similar interests, to start a<br />

robust dialogue about the priority issues and causes relating to the persistently poor health of<br />

Cabbage Tree Creek. We want to work towards an action plan that will see the catchment as an<br />

example of best practice in coordinating efforts towards real improvement, while bringing the<br />

community along with us. So let me be clear: ultimately it is our gorgeous bayside community that has<br />

the most to gain or lose, and my eye is clearly set on the outcome of a healthy Cabbage Tree Creek<br />

that will be a source of pride to the Sandgate electorate, which is a part of what makes our area a<br />

great place to live.<br />

Beaudesert Electorate, Schools<br />

Mr KRAUSE (Beaudesert—LNP) (3.03 pm): I wanted to speak today about some of the<br />

wonderful schools that I have in my electorate of Beaudesert. There are 25 state schools. Some of<br />

them are: Canungra, Darlington, Tamborine Mountain, St Bernard, Boonah, Kalbar, Roadvale, Warrill<br />

View, Beaudesert, Jimboomba, Woodhill, Aratula, Maroon, Hillview, Rathdowney, Tamrookum,<br />

Gleneagle and Cedar Creek. There is an assortment of wonderful small schools, and small schools<br />

form a very important part of our community in rural areas.<br />

I attended a small primary school—in fact, it was probably a large school compared to some of<br />

these. We had about 60 students. Darlington State School, which I visited on Monday, has 13 pupils<br />

this year, with one teacher and teacher aides as well. They have a wonderful school community. I<br />

was there on Monday presenting the school leaders with their badges for 2013. They were very well<br />

regarded in the community. In addition to me, the federal member for Wright was there, as well as the<br />

Scenic Rim Regional Council mayor and the local councillor. So we had four elected representatives<br />

present at a leadership ceremony for Darlington State School. It was quite an honour for that little<br />

school, I think.<br />

A few weeks ago I visited Canungra State School and presented the leadership badges there<br />

as well. They are a very active school community. One of the things that they are most active in is<br />

looking after Canungra Creek. I was quite privileged to be able to announce to the Canungra State<br />

School community that they had been successful in applying for a grant under the Everyone’s<br />

Environment program, administered by Minister Powell’s department—a grant in the vicinity of<br />

$10,000, which will enable them to carry out a lot more restoration work on the banks of Canungra<br />

Creek, which was damaged again during the recent flood events in my electorate. That will allow<br />

them to put in place more trees and native vegetation so that that creek bank will survive into the<br />

future. I take my hat off to that community as well.<br />

I also recently visited Tamborine Mountain State School and attended their leadership<br />

ceremony. They have a thriving music program. They have a great school community, led by<br />

Principal Jason Smith, in addition to St Bernard State School, which is also on the mountain. Both of<br />

these schools were impacted by the recent storms which affected Tamborine Mountain. The way in<br />

which the school community has bounced back and got back into a routine so quickly after the<br />

devastating event up there is testament to the whole community.<br />

I cannot forget to mention the QuoCKa Reading Program, which is in place now at Boonah<br />

State School and Kalbar State School, where high school students assist primary school students in<br />

developing their literacy programs. We have some great schools. I am very proud of them and I look<br />

forward to working with them throughout the whole of 2013.


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Mills, Lt Cmdr CA, OAM, RFD<br />

Mr HATHAWAY (Townsville—LNP) (3.06 pm): I take this opportunity to add to the<br />

parliamentary record the achievements of one community focused and dedicated person in my<br />

electorate of Townsville recently recognised in the Australia Day honours for his efforts in community<br />

service—Mr Chris Anthony Richard Mills. In the Australia Day honours list Lieutenant Commander<br />

(Retired) Chris Mills OAM, RFD was recognised for the Medal of the Order of Australia. Let me outline<br />

a bit about this former Royal Australian Navy officer, solicitor and resident of Townsville.<br />

Chris Mills entered the Royal Australian Navy in March 1967 as a midshipman, and his service<br />

to the nation as an officer in the RAN was completed some 35 years later, retiring as a Lieutenant<br />

Commander. Throughout those 35 years, Chris served on the following Her Majesty’s Australian<br />

Ships: Anzac, Sydney, Vendetta, Snipe, Derwent, Paluma, Moresby, Perth, Attack, Advance, Bass<br />

and Banks. His last sea billet was as the sailing master, executive officer and relief commanding<br />

officer of the sailing training ship Young Endeavour. Chris also saw operational service in Vietnam on<br />

board HMAS Sydney.<br />

With a strong focus on looking after the needs of sailors and service personnel, he has also<br />

had policy and staff positions with the Directorate of Naval Service Conditions and also with the<br />

Directorate of Naval Personnel Services. After his transfer to the Royal Australian Naval Reserves<br />

and completing his law degree, Chris continued his commitment of service to the people by working<br />

as a volunteer and pro bono for a number of local service and charity organisations.<br />

His list of achievements include: volunteer legal adviser to the Townsville Region Committee on<br />

the Ageing since 1999, and honorary member since 2005; coordinator of the Elder Abuse Steering<br />

Committee from 2006 to 2009; volunteer legal adviser to the Townsville Community Legal Service<br />

since 1999, and life member since 2009; volunteer at the Townsville Homeless Persons Legal Clinic;<br />

honorary solicitor with the North <strong>Queensland</strong> Competitive Employment Service; a member of the<br />

Vietnam Veterans Federation; founder of the Alzheimer’s Australia North <strong>Queensland</strong> support group;<br />

and member of James Cook University’s ethics committee. Chris has also spent time on the board of<br />

the Townsville District Rugby Union Association. He is also a life member of the Townsville District<br />

Rugby Union Referees Association. One of his greatest and ongoing achievements was to work with<br />

the Townsville Region Committee on the Ageing, which led to the creation of a seniors’ legal service<br />

for Townsville and more recently in his capacity with the Vietnam Veterans Federation’s recent<br />

opening of the Townsville Men’s Shed.<br />

It is also for this list of achievements and ongoing service to his community that Chris was<br />

recognised on Australia Day this year as the Townsville City Council’s 2013 Citizen of the Year. While<br />

I count myself very lucky to have Chris as a friend, the people and city of Townsville are far more<br />

fortunate in having him as part of its community. Well done Chris Mills OAM, RFD. I salute you.<br />

Rugby League<br />

Mr COSTIGAN (Whitsunday—LNP) (3.09 pm): I rise this afternoon with the NRL season<br />

starting tonight to extend my best wishes to all local rugby league clubs, their players, supporters and<br />

sponsors across the Mackay-Whitsunday region for the 2013 season. I have long maintained that<br />

rugby league is part of <strong>Queensland</strong>’s social fabric, especially in the north where the Foley Shield is<br />

part of folklore from Mackay to Mossman and west to the Isa. In my beautiful part of the world it is still<br />

the No. 1 game in town, with many local products making the big time over the years. I refer to people<br />

like Wendell Sailor, Dale Shearer, Martin Bella, Kevin Campion, Neville Costigan, Travis Norton—<br />

who, I might add, happens to be a constituent of mine—Paul ‘Bear’ Bowman, Mike McLean, Clinton<br />

Schifcofske, and the list goes on. They have all progressed to State of Origin, for those who do not<br />

follow rugby league.<br />

Within my own electorate we have three rugby league clubs on the senior front that participate<br />

in the eight-team Mackay competition—namely, Magpies, Norths based at Glenella and Beaconsfield<br />

in Mackay’s north respectively, and the Whitsunday Brahmans, playing out of Proserpine and pulling<br />

in players and supporters from Bloomsbury to Bowen. This year marks the 40th anniversary since<br />

Whitsunday’s one and only Foley Shield success. The Foley Shield, as many well travelled members<br />

would know, is a North <strong>Queensland</strong> icon, having started in 1948.<br />

Mr Minnikin: Go the Daisys!


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Mr COSTIGAN: I take the interjection from the member for Chatsworth. The Daisys from the<br />

Isa are very much in the thick of it. At its peak it was the biggest rugby league competition in terms of<br />

geography in the world. That ’73 side is revered around the Whitsundays. Names like the late Jimmy<br />

Hill, the late Matty Best, Laurie Goldman and my old mate from Bowen Keith Shiels are all fondly<br />

remembered for their heroics in the ’73 final against Innisfail.<br />

Last Friday I had the good fortune to attend the season launch of the North <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Cowboys, now preparing for their 19th season. It was great to be alongside the federal member for<br />

Herbert and my state colleagues including the Minister for Natural Resources and Mines, the Minister<br />

for Local Government, Community Recovery and Resilience and the members for Townsville and<br />

Thuringowa—the latter being someone whom I envy given that his electorate is the home of the<br />

Cowboys, the team that brings us northerners together.<br />

I wish coach Neil Henry, his staff, co-captains Johnathan Thurston and Matthew Scott the very<br />

best for 2013, starting with Saturday night’s game against the member for Gregory’s beloved<br />

Bulldogs. Good luck, Vaughan; you will need it. To the Cowboys’ feeder side, the Mackay Cutters, I<br />

say good luck, too. I look forward to attending their first home game of the year on Saturday, 23<br />

March for the big derby game against the member for Keppel’s local team, the CQ Capras. I have<br />

been fortunate to have been involved in rugby league all my life as a junior league player and as an<br />

administrator. I love the game. It is not the only sport in my electorate, but it is the greatest game of<br />

all.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Algester Electorate, Schools<br />

Mr SHORTEN (Algester—LNP) (3.13 pm): I wish to bring to the House’s attention the<br />

wonderful educational institutions that are in the electorate of Algester: Algester State School, Boronia<br />

Heights State School, Grand Avenue State School, Pallara State School, St John’s College, St<br />

Stephen’s and Forest Lake State High School. They are wonderful educational institutions and I enjoy<br />

every single moment when I get to visit them. I have had plenty of opportunities to visit them over the<br />

last couple of weeks, as all honourable members would have, with their leadership inductions. Every<br />

year a new cohort of students comes through and they go to an election where their peers judge them<br />

on their ability to write and publicly speak on what they would bring to the role of leadership. I have<br />

been very honoured to be invited as a community leader to present the badges to the school captains<br />

and the school vice captains. I would like to read into the record a couple of the captains and school<br />

vice captains whom I have had the absolute honour of presenting badges to over the last couple of<br />

weeks.<br />

Last week I attended Algester State School. What a wonderful school it is, with 1000-odd<br />

students led by a wonderful principal, John Enright, a fantastic teaching staff and a great cohort of<br />

kids. I was very honoured to be able to present Kira Chipizubov, Talisha Hansen, Liam O’Brien and<br />

James Vaka with their school captain pins.<br />

Today I was very privileged to be granted leave to attend Grand Avenue State School, which is<br />

the biggest state school in my electorate and one of the biggest in the state. A total of 1,217 kids go to<br />

Grand Avenue. I was very honoured to be part of the ceremony today to present leadership badges to<br />

the school captains—Liam Portelli and Paris Knapp—and to the school vice captains—Thomas<br />

Cameron and Luisa Sekona. These young people are the future leaders of this state and possibly<br />

even our nation. I am always encouraged when I visit my schools by the leadership that these young<br />

people show. We are talking about year 7 students. They grow up a lot quicker now. My daughter<br />

turned seven yesterday and I do not know where those seven years went, but it went very fast<br />

indeed.<br />

Blyth, Ms D, AO<br />

Mr CRANDON (Coomera—LNP) (3.16 pm): I rise to pay tribute to Denise Blyth OAM the<br />

Coomera electorate nominee for the inaugural <strong>Queensland</strong> Inspiring Women-Speaker’s Awards. We<br />

will be celebrating the awards at a breakfast tomorrow morning in the Premiers and Speakers halls.<br />

Denise Blyth is a tower of strength to us all and definitely demonstrates the hallmarks of a true<br />

pioneer, which is the theme for this year’s awards. Denise joined the Coomera branch of the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Country Women’s Association, the QCWA, in 1981 and has held the positions of vice<br />

president, president, secretary and treasurer numerous times. For example, she was president from<br />

1984 to 1988 and 1999 to 2000; vice president from 1983 to 1984, 1996 to 1998 and 2001 to 2002;


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secretary from 1995 to 1996 and 2004 to 2007; treasurer from 1991 to 1995; and acting treasurer<br />

from 2005 to 2007. She was awarded a ‘For Service Bar’ in 1996. They are not lightly given, I can<br />

assure honourable members.<br />

She also held the position of divisional president and state council member for the southeastern<br />

division. She was also an entrant and finalist for Country Woman of the Year in 1995. Denise<br />

has been instrumental and a driving force behind the relocation of the QCWA hall at Hillview to a<br />

parcel of land beside the Coomera branch hall and organising it to open on the 50th anniversary for<br />

the division in December 2010. This hall now holds records and archives from branches all over the<br />

division which she is still tirelessly sorting. Not only has the Coomera branch benefitted from her hard<br />

work; she has helped others stop the closure of branches and urged them to carry on.<br />

For many years, especially at Christmas, Denise has been taking items collected by various<br />

branch members to Majella House, a women’s refuge on the Gold Coast. As another example of her<br />

efforts, in the 2010-11 floods the QCWA collected items for Grantham. Denise made contact with a<br />

Grantham resident who came down, and for many weeks she met with him and gave him goods to<br />

take back to Grantham. This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the work she has done without<br />

expectation of reward for her efforts. Denise displays an inspirational sense of leadership and<br />

community spirit, working tirelessly for the benefit of the community. Denise will do anything needed<br />

to help her community. The local and broader community is a much better place because of Denise<br />

and her altruistic commitment to help out others.<br />

Beenleigh Rotary Club, 60th Anniversary<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN (Albert—LNP) (3.18 pm): On 3 March this year the Rotary Club of Beenleigh<br />

celebrated its 60th birthday, a major milestone in any organisation. This momentous occasion was<br />

celebrated with a dinner at Windaroo Cottage. It was marvellous to see so many community leaders<br />

turn up to mark this historic event.<br />

The federal member for Forde, Bert van Manen, was there, as was my good colleague Mr<br />

Michael Crandon, the state member for Coomera, who is a past president of the club. Logan City<br />

Councillor Don Petersen and Councillor Jenny Breene were also there, along with Mayor Pam Parker<br />

who gave a good speech about the great work that the Beenleigh Rotary Club does in the area.<br />

It was also my great pleasure to award the Beenleigh Rotary Club the Albert Community<br />

Organisation of the Year award for 2013 for outstanding dedication to the community after 60 years of<br />

civic service. I am joking when I refer to the Rotary Club of Beenleigh as the local Beenleigh mafia<br />

because they seem to have their fingers in every single pie in Beenleigh. They even control the flow<br />

of alcohol from the local Beenleigh Rum Distillery as one of its members is the manager of that rum<br />

distillery.<br />

Six decades of commitment to the local community of Beenleigh is nothing short of absolutely<br />

incredible. It started in 1953 when 20 community minded local businesses decided to start a local<br />

Rotary Club with a passion to create a better world. Charter President Jack Short and Rotarians of<br />

the club set about raising money for the community to set up service projects to better serve others. It<br />

is certainly a great credit to them.<br />

Over the last 60 years, the club has actively helped multiple organisations throughout the<br />

Beenleigh area such as Blue Nurses, Meals on Wheels, Youth Club, Air Sea Rescue et cetera. They<br />

have helped a phenomenal number of community groups. Along with other local clubs they also run<br />

the very successful Beenleigh & District Cane Festival. Over the past 12 years this festival has raised<br />

over $500,000, which is also a great credit to them.<br />

The Beenleigh Rotary Club is not just bound to local issues. They are a truly international club.<br />

They have been helping rebuild schools in Papua New Guinea and Samoa. I thank this wonderful<br />

club of which I am a member for its 60 years of civic service. I hope they will have another 60 years of<br />

fantastic civic service to the community.<br />

Hicks, Mrs L<br />

Mr JOHNSON (Gregory—LNP) (3.21 pm): I wish to bring to the attention of the House this<br />

afternoon the great work done by Lorna Hicks, the coordinator of the Emerald Neighbourhood Centre<br />

who retired on 31 January. President of the Emerald and District Social Development Association<br />

Paul Bell said that he and the committee feel a great loss with Lorna’s announcement of her<br />

retirement. We know that we are moving into uncertain times without her leadership. However, the<br />

good news is that Lorna has accepted the role to become the inaugural patron of the Emerald and<br />

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At the 2013 Australia Day celebrations in Emerald, Mayor Peter Maguire recognised Lorna’s 36<br />

years of service to the community by presenting her with the inaugural Central Highlands Regional<br />

Council Community Champion Award. In presenting Lorna with this award, Councillor Maguire said—<br />

It is with a great deal of pleasure that we acknowledge the wonderful work of Lorna Hicks for the dedication and love of the role<br />

that she has put into her work for Emerald and surrounding communities. Many long hours and not just weekdays but also<br />

weekends Lorna has been out there helping others through thick and thin and doing her bit for a range of community groups<br />

and organisations including her own at the Neighbourhood Centre. It is a sad time as we say thanks for her immense<br />

dedication but we wish Lorna all the best in her retirement and say go and enjoy your retirement and all the best in the future.<br />

On hearing the news of Lorna’s retirement, the federal member for Flynn, Ken O’Dowd, said—<br />

How blessed was Emerald when Lorna Hicks came to town with her husband in 1954. During the next almost 60 years, Lorna<br />

has gone about her business helping those in need. Who could put a figure on the number of people she has helped in that<br />

time? Lorna has always gone over and above the call of duty whenever her community has needed her. Well done Lorna and<br />

God bless you on your retirement.<br />

My own words at the time were—<br />

Lorna’s retirement is bittersweet. Lorna is a mighty woman with a heart of gold. I have never heard her say a bad word about<br />

anyone and I have never heard anyone say a bad word about her. Lorna’s belief that there is good in everyone is proof positive<br />

of her own goodness. They say goodness is so rare in history that those who are good should take precedence over those who<br />

are great. Lorna certainly takes first place in my book. She has been an absolute pearl. Lorna has given her all to Emerald,<br />

both the smallest and the greatest among us, with unfailing kindness, courage, generosity, truth and persistence for nearly four<br />

decades. I wish her every blessing in her retirement.<br />

May God give her and her family those special graces as she enters her retirement. I can<br />

assure you we will miss her greatly. I say thank you to Lorna for the work she has done, not only for<br />

Emerald and the Central Highlands but also for those who do not know she has helped them.<br />

International Women’s Day<br />

Dr ROBINSON (Cleveland—LNP) (3.24 pm): Tomorrow, Friday, 8 March, is a very special day<br />

in the <strong>Queensland</strong> calendar. It is International Women’s Day. It is a day for women to celebrate what<br />

it means to be women. Women celebrating womanhood is an important social, cultural and economic<br />

thing. I have to admit that as a poor and simple male, I—perhaps we—do not always understand the<br />

women in our lives or what womanhood is about. After all, if you follow John Gray’s reasoning in his<br />

book Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus, us Martians have no idea about secret<br />

women’s business. However, there is hope for us Martians. Men can understand the fairer gender<br />

and form loving, supportive and meaningful relationships with them.<br />

So I encourage men to celebrate with them on International Women’s Day. I look forward to<br />

being one of a few thorns among 200 roses who will attend a breakfast tomorrow hosted at the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> parliament by Madam Speaker, Fiona Simpson. I acknowledge and congratulate Madam<br />

Speaker, not only for being appointed as <strong>Queensland</strong>’s first female Speaker of the parliament but also<br />

for her initiative to honour International Women’s Day with this breakfast. The focus of <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Inspirational Women awards for 2013 is ‘honouring pioneering women from throughout <strong>Queensland</strong>’.<br />

Inspirational women abound in our communities. This inaugural breakfast is an opportunity to publicly<br />

recognise and honour inspirational women from all over <strong>Queensland</strong>. It gives me great pleasure to<br />

participate in this event and to select an individual who has led an inspiring life and achieved much.<br />

There are many women in Cleveland and the Redland city community who would have been<br />

worthy recipients of this award. After a good amount of consideration and with the assistance of<br />

others, I selected an amazing woman as the 2013 recipient, Auntie Margaret Iselin of Dunwich, North<br />

Stradbroke Island. Auntie Margaret, a Quandamooka elder, has served her people with distinction<br />

throughout the span of her lifetime on the island. She is one of the finest Indigenous leaders in this<br />

nation. She holds fast to Indigenous traditions, loves the younger generations, is passionate about<br />

bush tucker and understands our modern world and how Indigenous Australians can prosper in it.<br />

According to the MMEIC, Margaret Iselin, Minjerribah Moorgumpin elder, was born in 1930 at<br />

Myora Mission on North Stradbroke Island. Over the years she has lived there, she has made an<br />

amazing contribution in all kinds of ways. In particular, she has a passion for helping young people.<br />

Her door is always open to them and no one is ever judged. She has been a mentor to many young<br />

people on the island and helps them with community service opportunities and in all kinds of ways. I<br />

congratulate her today on winning this award.<br />

I also recognise some other important women in my life: my wife, Julie; daughters, Laura,<br />

Melissa and Susannah; my mother, Lauris; my mother-in-law, Clare, and my staff as well.<br />

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Positive pARTnerships Program<br />

Mrs RICE (Mount Coot-tha—LNP) (3.27 pm): As the member for Mount Coot-tha, I am always<br />

keen to support and promote grassroots initiatives that ultimately contribute to our strong sense of<br />

community and support local business. On 18 February this year the Milton community mural was<br />

officially launched. The Milton mural is part of <strong>Queensland</strong> Rail’s Positive pARTnerships program and<br />

is situated under the Milton rail underpass at the end of Park Road. For <strong>Queensland</strong> Rail the Positive<br />

pARTnerships program is about improving QR properties and highlighting the work of up-and-coming<br />

artists within Brisbane. Importantly, the program aims to work with community groups, local schools<br />

and other stakeholders to jointly produce high-quality public artwork and instil community pride in rail<br />

infrastructure. I have been told that today the Positive pARTnerships program has delivered 90<br />

projects which cover more than 19,000 square metres across the QR city network. This includes<br />

station buildings, subways, bike lockers, car park banners, ramps and lift wells. On behalf of the<br />

Milton community, I would like to thank QR for contributing to our local area and leaving a fantastic<br />

piece of public art for everyone to enjoy. As a resident who frequently passes the mural, I can see<br />

that the Positive pARTnerships program does make a huge difference to the suburb.<br />

These sorts of things do not just happen overnight. QR’s project was conceptualised thanks to<br />

the input of residents and businesses and involved lots of coordination and hard work. QR conducted<br />

around 12 months of community consultation to better understand the identity and spirit of our area.<br />

Our local Westpac at Milton and Style Magazine sponsored a magnificent Milton photo competition to<br />

boost community participation and provide input. The photos from the competition were used to<br />

design the mural and gave QR’s lead artist Dan Brock a theme and sense of direction. When work<br />

began on the underpass in mid-November 2012, QR documented the making of the mural on its blog.<br />

This was a great way for locals to keep up with the transformation and appreciate the incredible<br />

amount of work, paint and talent that goes into creating a mural. The mural features 304 square<br />

metres of paint and depicts iconic scenes including Milton State School, the XXXX Brewery, local<br />

business like Pia Du Pradal and La Dolce Vita, the soon-to-arrive CityCat terminal and local leaders<br />

including Lynne Brown from the Brisbane Inner West Chamber of Commerce and Roberto from La<br />

Dolce Vita. Locals are very proud of the masterpiece at the end of Park Road. Many of the<br />

businesses have experienced challenges over the last few years, not least the 2011 flood. The<br />

traders regularly meet to discuss opportunities to boost business and encourage locals and visitors to<br />

the area, and this mural is just the beginning of the new and exciting opportunities to make Milton<br />

magnificent. There are a number of QR staff whom I want to thank for their contribution to the mural,<br />

including Martin Ryan, Susan Purnell, Giano Terzic, Dan Brock, Josie Prestipino, Kerrith Giese and<br />

Rod Bunter. You have all contributed to the very deep sense of pride we all feel for our magnificent<br />

Milton.<br />

Southport Electorate, International Women’s Day<br />

Mr MOLHOEK (Southport—LNP) (3.30 pm): Tomorrow we will observe International Women’s<br />

Day—a global day of recognition of women’s rights and a celebration of inspiring women throughout<br />

history. In the early 1900s the first International Women’s Days were celebrated as part of the<br />

ongoing campaign for equality. Women wanted to work, to vote and to hold public office. It is a<br />

testament to their determination and will that today women hold equal rights to men at home, at the<br />

office and in society. Young women finishing school face endless career opportunities and<br />

possibilities, many more than those available to women at the beginning of last century.<br />

Locally, International Women’s Day presents an opportunity to again celebrate and recognise<br />

those women—those community heroes—who dynamically and passionately work towards better<br />

outcomes for my local community. May I just say that there are a whole host of inspirational women in<br />

Southport, all doing important and amazing things for our community. Vicki Batten is just one of these<br />

women, the CEO of FSG Australia, an organisation dedicated to providing assistance to members of<br />

the community who are less fortunate than others with a focus on social justice and human rights.<br />

Vicki’s commitment and passion for these issues is clearly evident and has a tremendous impact on<br />

the lives of FSG’s clients and staff.


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Our local councillor Dawn Crichlow is yet another woman doing fantastic things for Southport.<br />

You will struggle to find a Southport resident who does not know Dawn and what she has done for the<br />

community. Dawn has been fighting for Southport since being elected to council in 1991 and is the<br />

patron of many Gold Coast organisations—a testament to her keen interest and dedication to the<br />

community. In today’s Gold Coast Bulletin, Dawn is championing the expansion of the Gold Coast<br />

rapid transit system and the possibility of a connection to the heavy rail. Dawn and I share the same<br />

passion for the reinvigoration of the Southport CBD. Dawn has always prioritised Southport’s needs<br />

and will continue to be an inspirational and hardworking councillor for years to come.<br />

This year, however, I have nominated Neighbourhood Watch advocate Karen Bulmer from my<br />

electorate to receive the <strong>Queensland</strong> Inspiring Women-Speaker’s Award. Community champion<br />

Karen Bulmer says Crestwood Heights is a community referred to as ‘Pleasantville’ by local police.<br />

What a great accomplishment for this Crestwood community—to live and maintain a neighbourhood<br />

that has a reputation for kindness, compassion and a great sense of community. Karen has been the<br />

friendly coordinator of Southport 10 Crestwood Heights Neighbourhood Watch for the past seven<br />

years and, as with many Neighbourhood Watch groups, their job is to keep an eye out for any<br />

suspicious activity in the area and to report anything unusual to the police. Karen and the Crestwood<br />

Heights Neighbourhood Watch group are evidence that residents can play a vital role in the protection<br />

of their communities. This group has previously supplied information to our Southport police which<br />

has directly led to the arrest of burglars targeting the Crestwood Heights area. Karen’s dedication to<br />

and support of her Neighbourhood Watch group is nothing short of amazing, and I want to<br />

acknowledge both her and the Crestwood Heights group and other Neighbourhood Watch groups in<br />

the area for their commitment.<br />

Mama Rene’s<br />

Mr MINNIKIN (Chatsworth—LNP) (3.33 pm): I rise with great pride in this House to<br />

acknowledge the exceptionally good work of Mama Rene’s led by Pastor John and his wife, Diane<br />

Dowell. This charitable foundation is based in my electorate of Chatsworth and I am proud to highlight<br />

its important charitable efforts in this chamber today on behalf of the residents of the Chatsworth<br />

electorate. Mama Rene’s is a charity that works with homeless and disadvantaged individuals in<br />

Brisbane. Every Tuesday and Friday evening Pastor John, Diane and their selfless volunteers<br />

conduct a street kitchen in the Brisbane CBD providing a hot meal, a drink and, most importantly, a<br />

chat. Mama Rene’s is committed to assisting individuals who may be in a crisis or who have fallen on<br />

hard times. Pastor John and his wife Diane open up their home at Carindale to anyone who may need<br />

support in their time of need. A roof over your head and a shoulder to lean on is essential to getting<br />

back on your feet. People like Pastor John and Diane are examples of the many unsung heroes in the<br />

Chatsworth electorate.<br />

The charitable foundation is named after Pastor John’s mother, Rene, who inspired him to<br />

devote a life to charity. His mother Rene took in returned soldiers to assist them when they fell on<br />

hard times after World War II. This explains why Pastor John and Diane named their organisation<br />

Mama Rene’s—to pay tribute to the charitable acts of his magnificent mother. Pastor John and his<br />

wife Diane have for many years committed their lives to charity. They ran ministries in Kalgoorlie and<br />

Adelaide before settling in Brisbane, where they founded Mama Rene’s. In 2008 they were both<br />

acknowledged for their charitable efforts and awarded a Pride of Australia medal. Mama Rene’s is<br />

also a public benevolent institution which is endorsed by the Australian Taxation Office, with<br />

deductable gift recipient status. Last week I had the privilege of presenting Pastor John with a<br />

certificate acknowledging their latest grant from the Gambling Community Benefit Fund. They<br />

received just under $26,000 which went straight towards purchasing a new van to cater for their<br />

expanding needs as a charitable organisation.<br />

I also had the pleasure of seeing the new van sitting proudly on the driveway in their house in<br />

the Chatsworth electorate. Mama Rene’s has a strong relationship with Foodbank, another fantastic<br />

organisation in its own right, which provides the food that it prepares for the street kitchen. However,<br />

Mama Rene’s is always keen to develop strategic partnerships with businesses and organisations<br />

which may be interested in donating or providing resources to assist its charitable endeavours. I have<br />

seen for myself the outstanding work that Mama Rene’s does in the community. I have attended on<br />

Tuesday and Friday evenings as a volunteer in its street kitchen at Fortitude Valley. I have seen<br />

firsthand the importance of its presence in the community and how much it is indeed appreciated. I<br />

stand proud in the House to acknowledge the very important work of Mama Rene’s and commend its<br />

work to the House.


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Ambulance Services<br />

Mrs SMITH (Mount Ommaney—LNP) (3.36 pm): The Newman government delivers. The<br />

Newman government delivers on its promises, and part of our six-month plan was 130 ambulances<br />

being delivered. The electorate of Mount Ommaney was a recipient of one of those ambulances and<br />

as part of that I went along for a ride and did a 12-hour shift with staff from the Centenary Ambulance<br />

Station based at Darra. How outstanding are our paramedics! Jason Sundorp and Chloe Bree were<br />

the two paramedics that I went on the road with during a 12-hour shift, and it was such an eyeopening<br />

experience. The variety of cases that were presented to us and the area that we needed to<br />

cover was truly fascinating. I saw dedicated workers who not only were very experienced but also<br />

showed compassion and professionalism. They are truly amazing people. We attended five of the<br />

hospitals in that 12-hour shift and there was one thing that I noticed which, again, shows that the<br />

Newman government is delivering. The paramedics themselves were saying how the system has<br />

been streamlined. Chloe gave me the example that in a normal 12-hour shift sometimes she could be<br />

waiting at the ambulance bay to admit a patient through emergency for up to six hours. That is no<br />

longer occurring, and we witnessed this time and time again. The paramedics themselves are thrilled<br />

with that. They are seeing the real difference and the real benefits from a Newman government which<br />

does not just talk but delivers.<br />

What was also noticeable was the emergency departments. The Minister for Health has<br />

referred to the redesign of the work flow, which has made such a difference. So it is not always about<br />

spending the money and not getting the results; as a government we have done some simple things.<br />

We have looked at it and delivered on our promises.<br />

I say to Jason Sundorp and Chloe Bree: you are outstanding and amazing people. I have<br />

always had the utmost respect for our paramedics, as I do for our police and fire services, but that 12-<br />

hour shift was a real eye-opener. I encourage every single member to get out there and see the great<br />

work our paramedics do.<br />

Palos Family<br />

Mr GRANT (Springwood—LNP) (3.40 pm): I rise to honour the wonderful Palos family, who live<br />

in the Springwood electorate and who have lived through decades of severe testing owing to ill<br />

health, and to inform the House that they are very grateful to the government for providing supported<br />

accommodation for their 18-year-old daughter, Elizabeth. I would like to share their family story as<br />

told by George Palos—<br />

Our daughter Elizabeth was born in 1994 at Brisbane Mater Mothers hospital. In her early years, she was a bright, bubbly and<br />

very active little girl. In her second year at school, we began to notice that there was something not quite right with her. Her<br />

school teachers found Elizabeth aloof and not concentrating well and that she needed constant one-on-one supervision.<br />

Finally, at the request of the school it was recommended that Elizabeth be enrolled at a special school.<br />

In 2005, when Elizabeth was aged ten, her mother died of pancreatic cancer, at forty eight years of age, leaving behind a<br />

husband and four children.<br />

At the age of twelve, an MRI of Elizabeth’s brain diagnosed that she had a very rare progressive genetic condition known as<br />

Vanishing White Matter Disease, which meant that as she grew older, the white matter encapsulating her brain would<br />

deteriorate and would cause her brain to shut down her systems gradually, leading to an early death. Life expectancy is<br />

currently known to be till the third decade of her life.<br />

I remarried in March 2007 to a lovely and wonderful wife Faun. She had no previous experience in raising a family member with<br />

a disability. At first life looking after Elizabeth seemed to be manageable. Elizabeth was quite mobile and active. However she<br />

developed epilepsy and needed to be on medication, and her health continued to decline. She needed assistance with toileting,<br />

and was not able to dress herself. She needed assistance with brushing her teeth and hair, and with feeding. She later became<br />

immobile, and needed to be in a wheelchair. Her speech and language became impaired as did her hearing. Her cognition also<br />

became impaired and slowly, she became withdrawn. Her personality as we knew it, just was not there anymore. We lost our<br />

little girl gradually.<br />

Over recent years, life had become increasingly difficult in supporting Elizabeth at home. We both became very weary and<br />

experienced burnout. We became isolated in our home as it was easier to stay at home than go out. We realised that we could<br />

no longer look after her. We became physically and emotionally drained.<br />

We eventually sought assistance through Disability Services in making an application for Supported Accommodation. Finally<br />

we were approached by Disability Services when a placement became available for Elizabeth at their Supported<br />

Accommodation unit in Loganlea.<br />

The staff at the unit are very approachable and behave in a professional manner. They have Elizabeth’s best interests at heart<br />

and she is well supported with her needs. We thank the staff for making this transition experience a most enjoyable one.<br />

George and Faun Palos.


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Tablelands Regional Council, Draft Planning Scheme<br />

Mr KNUTH (Dalrymple—KAP) (3.43 pm): I wish to raise the issue of the anxiety created in the<br />

Tablelands community by the overlays contained in the recently released Tablelands Regional<br />

Council draft planning scheme. I acknowledge the efforts of the government to address<br />

inconsistencies and the unnecessary regulatory burden left by the former government. However, a<br />

meeting yesterday in my electorate hosted by AgForce and attended by the member for Barron River<br />

demonstrated that the fundamental issue of property rights is the issue that is being avoided by<br />

industry representative groups and the government.<br />

The erosion of property rights and the autonomy of local governments has occurred over<br />

decades and comes from many influencing factors. But the most influential is the invasive and<br />

destructive agenda of extreme environmentalists to stop development and shut down the agricultural<br />

industry in the area. The amendments to the planning laws last year failed to address the imposition<br />

on the rights of landowners caused by the 2031 regional plan. Unless this plan is revoked in its<br />

entirety, local governments will be restricted in how they plan for the future of their communities and<br />

landowners are restricted in how they plan for their families. Land that has been earmarked by<br />

owners as part of their superannuation plan or to provide financial security for their children has been<br />

effectively stolen by the government through planning regulations. Property owners are forced to pay<br />

rates on land for which they are merely managers.<br />

The 2031 regional plan was the greatest attack on property rights in the history of <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

The criteria was oppressive and the terms of reference were drawn up by the conservation movement<br />

that is determined to shut down growth by closing our agricultural industry and stopping urban<br />

development in regional areas. By far the greatest concern raised by the community is the biodiversity<br />

overlays, which are a continuation of planning regulations based on the assumptions contained in the<br />

2031 regional plan.<br />

The environmental ideology contained in the biodiversity regulations not only are an impost on<br />

land ownership rights but also are inconsistent and result in poor planning mechanisms, which restrict<br />

growth and threaten food production. Areas that need to be protected are left open for development<br />

and land that should be developed is locked up because of inaccurate data and a lack of consultation<br />

with local communities when mapping areas. The need for planning and development regulation is<br />

obvious. Nobody is saying to throw out all the planning and allow completely unregulated<br />

development. The landowners are asking for flexible, locally managed planning schemes that are<br />

developed in close consultation with the community.<br />

Most landowners are interested in conserving the natural beauty and biodiversity of their land<br />

without the big environmental stick of the government coercing them into restrictive covenant<br />

arrangements every time they need to build a shed. If the government is serious about workable<br />

planning laws guiding regional growth, autonomous local government and doubling food production,<br />

then it will throw out the draconian 2031 plan and return planning decisions to local councils.<br />

Morayfield Electorate, SES and Rural Fire Brigade Volunteers<br />

Mr GRIMWADE (Morayfield—LNP) (3.46 pm): Last week I was honoured to have the Assistant<br />

Minister for Emergency Volunteers, the honourable Ted Malone, join me in my electorate to thank<br />

local SES and rural fire brigade volunteers for the outstanding work they do in our community. On the<br />

day the assistant minister joined me, we visited the office of Inspector Neil Kelso, who is the QFRS<br />

rural area director. Inspector Kelso was able to show us the very large region that his team covers<br />

and gives us a presentation of the mapping software they use to monitor conditions around his local<br />

area. We then visited the team of volunteers at the Rocksberg Moorina rural fire brigade. Meeting<br />

such an energetic team of volunteers at this site was definitely a highlight of the day. The chairman of<br />

the brigade, Mr Ben Matthews, was able to take the assistant minister on a tour of the facilities and<br />

showcase the equipment the fire bridge has and highlight any areas where improvements may need<br />

to be made. Currently, the assistant minister is undertaking a review and it was fitting that on that day<br />

he was able to visit that site. It was refreshing to have an assistant minister who has firsthand<br />

knowledge of being a rural fire brigade officer attend a facility like this. To stand there and listen to<br />

him talk to the volunteers of this brigade and have an understanding of what they were talking about<br />

was really refreshing for us all.<br />

That brigade recently sent six people to Bundaberg to assist in the flood recovery program<br />

there. On arrival in Bundaberg First Officer Troy Ellis, Nathan Ward and Patrick Grixti were sent by<br />

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been cut off by floodwaters. At that stage three other volunteers—Mitchell Young, Michael Lawler and<br />

Bradley Mussig—were going house to house with urban search and rescue crews to assess damage<br />

and later helped the mud army clean up. By all accounts these six fine young volunteers did an<br />

outstanding job. On behalf of my colleagues in this place who represent the Bundaberg area, I thank<br />

them for their assistance and for everything they do in their local areas.<br />

That day Chad Inglis and Troy Inglis also joined the crew at that brigade. They put up their<br />

hands to join the volunteers based on a campaign we were running locally to attract people to join the<br />

SES or a rural fire brigade crew to help out in their local areas. I thank them for their assistance.<br />

On the same day the SES National Emergency Medals were awarded the Moreton Bay<br />

Regional Council hub. These medals are awarded to people who have rendered sustained service in<br />

response to a nationally significant emergency in Australia, such as the Victorian bushfires in 2009<br />

and the <strong>Queensland</strong> floods in 2011. Carrollyn Hennessy and Hank Van den Ende attended those<br />

awards and were recipients of a medal. Hank is the local controller for the Moreton Bay Regional<br />

Council. He looks after seven groups. I thank him for his outstanding work. I put on the record that I<br />

stand here today in my orange tie in honour of all of those volunteers in those SES and rural fire<br />

brigade crews. I thank them for everything that they do in their communities.<br />

Maryborough Hospital, Rehabilitation Unit<br />

Mrs MADDERN (Maryborough—LNP) (3.49 pm): At the beginning of February, with the Rotary<br />

Club of Maryborough City and the Quota club of Maryborough I was privileged to be taken on a<br />

guided tour of the new rehabilitation unit at the Maryborough Hospital. I say ‘new’, but in actual fact it<br />

is located in what was formerly known as the Lady Musgrave Ward. This building was completely<br />

gutted and rebuilt internally to provide for four single wards and two wards of four beds each, giving a<br />

total of 16 beds. Included in this facility are ensuites to the wards, a full home-style kitchen, dining<br />

room and media room, a bathroom, lounge rooms, a treatment room, consulting rooms and a large<br />

fully equipped gymnasium.<br />

In this particular facility, gone are the charts at the end of the bed. Instead, there is a state-ofthe-art<br />

electronic headboard, the first of its kind in Australia. This headboard not only allows staff,<br />

patient and carers to know the stage of treatment for the patient, but it is a teaching tool to enable<br />

patients to understand and learn to use their medication correctly. This is a key factor in the treatment<br />

process as research shows that the majority of people do not know how to take their medication<br />

correctly. Specialist staff have been recruited and now residents in Maryborough and Hervey Bay<br />

requiring rehabilitation will be able to access a top-quality facility locally rather than having to travel<br />

away to another location. This is so important in terms of a rapid response to providing treatment and<br />

for family support for the patient.<br />

Another pleasing aspect of this facility is that by utilising an existing building, using local<br />

contractors and a local hospital project manager, millions of dollars was saved in comparison to<br />

building a completely new facility from the ground up: an environmentally and economically sound<br />

outcome which still provides the very best. Despite the money that has been saved there is one<br />

important component which is still required and that is a garden. Patients who need rehabilitation<br />

need to also learn outdoor skills such as stepping down over a concrete kerb, walking along different<br />

types of paths, learning to hang out clothes, water the garden and collect the mail. There were some<br />

funds left over from the construction and the local community is currently fundraising to allow the<br />

construction of this much-needed healing garden. Much thought and planning has been put into the<br />

design of this garden so that it is not only a nice place to be but also provides all the teaching aids<br />

needed to give patients the skills they need to again live in their homes. On behalf of the community I<br />

offer our sincere thanks to all who have been involved in this project which provides a much-needed<br />

facility locally.<br />

Pease Park (Innisfail Showgrounds), Dedicated Power Supply<br />

Mr PITT (Mulgrave—ALP) (3.52 pm): An ongoing and important issue for the Innisfail<br />

community is the need for better and more reliable power supply at the showgrounds. This is not a<br />

new issue for the Pease Park Management Committee or the Innisfail and District Show Society.<br />

About 20 years ago a four-hour blackout was experienced on Show Thursday that caused a great<br />

deal of chaos. Several options have been looked at over the years. While there have been CBD<br />

power upgrades, because of the infrequent use of an increased power supply by Pease Park, more<br />

regular users are understandably allocated power. In recent years the show society has relied on<br />

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Another issue is the need to upgrade show pavilions 1 and 2 so that they can be used for<br />

public purposes in the case of natural disasters. For example, a one-in-50-year flood level affects<br />

Warrina Home. Around 190 elderly or frail clients—many of who are high needs—as well as staff, in<br />

total around 300 people, would benefit from an upgrade. Nearly 80 people used the venue during<br />

Cyclone Yasi in its current form. Since that time, the Cassowary Coast Regional Council has done<br />

some costings around what it would take to retrofit cyclone rated roller doors. This will cost around<br />

$15,000. I know Councillor Mark Nolan is pushing hard on this, not only in his local government role<br />

but also as chair of the Pease Park Management Committee, to ensure that this is included in this<br />

year’s Cassowary Coast Regional Council budget. In order to ensure a dedicated power supply<br />

during such events, a 300kVA to 400kVA generator would be needed to service the building,<br />

particularly to support the clients from Warrina Home. This would also address issues facing the show<br />

society. After two major cyclones in five years and regular wet season flooding there is a strong case<br />

to be put.<br />

It was on this basis that I wrote to the Minister for Local Government last year seeking his<br />

support for this proposal. In my letter there was no attack on the government. This is certainly not a<br />

partisan issue, simply an issue of importance to many people in Innisfail and surrounding areas.<br />

However, the response from the minister was a half-smart political swipe at both me and the former<br />

member for Mulgrave, who he suggested had not kept his commitments. It appears that the minister<br />

has based his understanding of this issue on a newspaper report in which a journalist may have over<br />

egged the former member’s promise to work on this issue, which certainly did not include a funded<br />

commitment, just hard work.<br />

In his response the minister did not address the details in my letter which included matters<br />

related to local disaster management. Not only is he the Minister for Local Government but he is also<br />

now the Minister for Community Recovery and Resilience. His political response was critical of the<br />

problem not being solved when Labor was in power. I guess we were distracted providing $14 million<br />

in funding for the Jubilee Bridge, more than $40 million for water and sewerage works and $2 million<br />

to support a new library for Innisfail. I was disappointed that the minister’s response was not befitting<br />

of the office that he holds. It was all about excuses rather than engaging that can-do ethos that the<br />

LNP crow about so often.<br />

Again, this is not a political issue. I ask that the minister give proper consideration to funding for<br />

power reliability and work with me on behalf of the Innisfail community to ensure the future of the<br />

area’s biggest annual event and improved local disaster management options.<br />

Fuel Theft; International Women’s Day<br />

Dr DOUGLAS (Gaven—Ind) (3.55 pm): The incidence of people driving off without paying for<br />

fuel at the Gold Coast is increasing. In the Coomera police district from the start of January to 21<br />

February 117 offences were reported. This is resulting in a waste of police resources because police<br />

can spend up to three hours investigating the thefts. Almost half of these offences were committed at<br />

the BP station near the Pacific Motorway at Coomera. Many offenders are wearing clothes or items to<br />

prevent them from being identified on surveillance cameras. As a result, 18 service stations, including<br />

Freedom Fuel, 7-Eleven stores and a few BP stations, mainly in the Coomera police district and at<br />

Ashmore and Benowa, are adopting a new procedure where the pumps would be turned off until<br />

customers remove items of clothing such as hoodies, hats, sunglasses and scarves. These stations<br />

will be identified by signs fitted near the pumps asking people to remove items which hinder their<br />

identity. Generally offenders are not first-time offenders and many are in stolen vehicles with stolen<br />

numberplates. Such is the theft of plates that during a 90 day period 575 numberplates were stolen in<br />

the Logan, Gold Coast and Coomera police districts. This is a widespread problem. Unfortunately,<br />

law-abiding citizens may be slightly inconvenienced by being asked to remove items that hinder<br />

identification. People can put their items back on when the pump has been activated. Those people<br />

who, for personal, medical or religious reasons, do not wish to remove such items, may be required to<br />

produce ID or prepay for the fuel.<br />

I congratulate Martin Webb, the crime prevention coordinator from the Coomera police district,<br />

for his work on the program. Due to the illicit trade in numberplates and their use in fuel thefts, they<br />

are of little use for prosecution. Car registration stickers can now be identified through the use of new<br />

high-resolution cameras. In fact, the cameras are relatively cheap. The price has come down to $500.<br />

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information widely. It is absolutely critical that we maintain the use of car registration stickers and<br />

even make their use and display more enforceable, in particular on the lower left-hand side of the<br />

windscreen or on the rear of the vehicles. I would also like to thank Sergeant Peter Gordon of the<br />

Nerang police and local service station owner Tony Wharton for their assistance in this matter.<br />

Tomorrow is International Women’s Day. Here in <strong>Queensland</strong> the theme will be <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Women Building Connections. It has been mentioned a couple of times today. I am hosting a lunch<br />

for women in my electorate office at which three women, all connected to the Gaven electorate, will<br />

form a panel and speak about the ways women build connections through family and social networks<br />

and community services that enhance their personal wellbeing and build stronger more inclusive<br />

communities. I wish them all a great day.<br />

Gillard Government<br />

Mr DAVIES (Capalaba—LNP) (3.58 pm): As someone who has worked in the finance sector as<br />

well as owning my own financial services business, the need to be constantly vigilant of financial<br />

scams and cons cannot be underestimated. Be it the Triad card-skimming operation, the Russian<br />

mafia ID theft and password fishing or the old Nigerian 419 money transferring scam, those with<br />

nefarious intent will always come up with new and devilishly ingenuous way to separate good people<br />

from their hard earned money.<br />

I would like to take the time to inform and warn the House, my electorate of Capalaba as well<br />

as the wider <strong>Queensland</strong> population of a new and insidious scam that has recently come to light. This<br />

time it is not the Triads, the Russian mafia or even the Nigerians trying to scam good Aussies out of<br />

their cash; this group is a home-grown outfit, as sneaky and as cunning as any Nigerian scammer. I<br />

speak today of a group known as the ‘Gillardians’. The ‘Gillardians’ hail from our nation’s capital and<br />

are today planning the mother of all financial scams on the Australian people.<br />

I refer to the federal government’s plan to take money from dormant bank accounts. That is<br />

right: accounts that have not had any transactions for over three years will be taken by the Gillard<br />

government in a shameful grab for cash and a significant attack on property rights by an increasingly<br />

desperate and immoral government. This grubby cash grab seeks to fleece hardworking Australians<br />

of over $109 million this financial year alone. The Treasury Legislation Amendment (Unclaimed<br />

Money and Other Measures) Act 2012 amends the Banking Act 1959 to lower the threshold for<br />

unclaimed moneys, which are transferred from banks that hold the accounts to the Australian<br />

Securities and Investments Commission.<br />

Who voted to get this nasty piece of legislation through? Obviously, it was voted for by the<br />

federal Labor members, joined by all the Independents except Andrew Wilkie, who sided with the<br />

coalition. Bob Katter did not vote. He was not there to stand up for his constituents—surprise,<br />

surprise! And the same Greens who recently made a huge song and dance about their messy divorce<br />

with Gillard’s Labor voted with great gusto for this nasty piece of legislation. While they may be<br />

divorced, it is obvious that they are still friends with benefits.<br />

People should be able to leave their money in their own bank for as long as they wish without<br />

fear that the government might come and steal it. Labor is a financial illiterate and an economic<br />

vandal and the budget chickens will now come home to roost. This is a disgraceful cash grab by<br />

Gillard and Co. We desperately need a change of government in Canberra.<br />

Seniors Online Security Forum<br />

Mr DILLAWAY (Bulimba—LNP) (4.01 pm): I thank the member for Capalaba for the excellent<br />

segue. I rise in the House today to talk about the success of my recent free seniors forum and<br />

morning tea, which I held at the Cannon Hill Community Sports Club in the heart of my electorate of<br />

Bulimba, with representatives from the Public Trustee and online security task force in attendance.<br />

The safety and wellbeing of the citizens of Bulimba is of the utmost importance to me. What is often<br />

overlooked is the fact that many threats to society do not come in physical forms. Online safety and<br />

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The event was a great success with important information being presented that focused on the<br />

prevention of scamming and potential online threats and hazards. It seems that our younger<br />

generations that have grown up with technology are accustomed to its changing formats and adept at<br />

adjusting to advances in technology. However, for many seniors it is overwhelming trying to<br />

comprehend how to utilise technology, let alone being aware of the potential threats it presents.<br />

Online security is becoming more and more relevant in this day and age as more and more<br />

services are transferred to online systems, be they government or private enterprise initiatives. Dr<br />

Cassandra Cross, a committee member of the Carindale PCYC, has been working with the QPS on<br />

the seniors and online fraud research project since 2009. The project aims to fill the gaps in<br />

information and training available to combat internet risks.<br />

The Carindale PCYC has been able to fill an important void of education on a topic of concern<br />

for many seniors through the seniors online security project. This has been a collaborative project<br />

with the assistance of the QPS, Brisbane Seniors Online and many other seniors and seniors groups<br />

across the state. The initial phase of the seniors online security project won a bronze award for crime<br />

prevention at the 2011 QPS Awards for Excellence, as well as the <strong>Queensland</strong> Police Citizens Youth<br />

and Welfare Association 2011 for crime prevention.<br />

Dr Cross presented aspects of this project to the seniors of Bulimba, educating them on ways<br />

to safely negotiate the online environment. The forum provided simple strategies that all seniors can<br />

use to allow them to use their computers in a safe and confident manner. The benefits of technology<br />

are immense and seniors should be provided with the skills and knowledge to protect themselves<br />

against the inevitable dangers that are present, so that they are not afraid to use their computers.<br />

Feedback suggested that two key messages came through loud and clear. First, do not be<br />

afraid to ask friends and families about unusual requests from online sources. Secondly, trust your<br />

initial gut feeling. I would like to thank Dr Cross and the Carindale PCYC, the Public Trustee and the<br />

many people who assisted in facilitating this forum. The PCYC does a great deal in supporting our<br />

community. I must advise the House that this Saturday night my esteemed colleague from<br />

Chatsworth will be donning the DC cap and headphones and dusting off the old vinyls to be guest DJ<br />

at the Blue Light Disco. My forum was of great benefit to many seniors and we are now equipped to<br />

combat security risks online. I recommend that all other members take the opportunity to educate<br />

their seniors, and themselves for that matter, in 2013.<br />

Gympie, Floods Events<br />

Mr GIBSON (Gympie—LNP) (4.04 pm): The headline read, ‘A kick in the guts’. It would be<br />

easy to think that this was referring to the recent flood event in Gympie, but no. The kick in the guts<br />

came from Australia’s Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, when, despite the floodwaters being at their peak,<br />

she failed to recognise Gympie or provide any financial assistance to the community. That was<br />

despite the fact that Gympie is the home of the first Australian Labor Prime Minister, Andrew Fisher.<br />

He was a man with integrity and a man who upheld real Labor values, not those that we see from the<br />

hollow Labor Party members of today.<br />

It was a kick in the guts as western Sydney was being sandbagged to prevent the flood of<br />

votes storming out of there as the Australian people say ‘No more!’ to a federal Labor government,<br />

because they are sick and tired of the way it treats the Australian population. At the time the Prime<br />

Minister was making her announcement, my community needed assistance and was cut off by<br />

floodwaters. The Prime Minister was asked, ‘What about Gympie?’, but apparently she was living in a<br />

news vacuum. She was happy to receive any request from Gympie. I say to the Prime Minister and to<br />

her colleagues from the Labor Party who sit in this chamber, shame! The people of Gympie deserve<br />

assistance. The people of Gympie require assistance. This is the fifth flood in two years, the fourth in<br />

12 months and the second within four weeks.<br />

Businesses in the Gympie community are resilient when dealing with floods, but scratch the<br />

surface and we can see that they are struggling. One business owner told me that it cost $30,000 to<br />

move out and move back in after each flood event. Their credit cards are maxed out. They have no<br />

savings and they do not know what will happen should this potential cyclone form into a low and


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cause another flood event. The economic aftershock that occurs within my community ripples far<br />

beyond those directly affected. I have spoken to business owners who did not have any sales in the<br />

four weeks since the January flood event and then they found themselves hit again. In Mary Street,<br />

Gympie, the owners of the Dick Smith store spent $400,000 on refurbishing after the January flood<br />

event. They opened on Monday morning, closed Monday night and by Tuesday they had to pull out<br />

the stock because the waters had come in once again.<br />

Yet what do we see from a Labor Prime Minister? A kick in the guts and nothing offered! If<br />

Labor Party members in this parliament have any backbone, they should be calling Julia Gillard and<br />

demanding action and demanding support, otherwise they are as hollow as the federal Labor Party.<br />

LAND PROTECTION LEGISLATION (FLYING FOX CONTROL) AMENDMENT<br />

BILL<br />

Report, Government Response<br />

Hon. AC POWELL (Glass House—LNP) (Minister for Environment and Heritage Protection)<br />

(4.07 pm): I seek leave to table the government’s response to recommendations directed to the<br />

government in the parliamentary committee report on the Land Protection Legislation (Flying fox<br />

Control) Amendment Bill, which was introduced by the member for Dalrymple.<br />

Leave granted.<br />

Tabled paper: Agriculture, Resources and Environment Committee: Report No. 14—Land Protection Legislation (Flying fox<br />

Control) Amendment Bill 2012, government response [2208].<br />

PRIVILEGE<br />

Alleged Deliberate Misleading of the House by the Premier<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) (Leader of the Opposition) (4.08 pm): I rise on a matter of<br />

privilege suddenly arising, having had a chance to consult the record. Today the Premier suggested I<br />

was hiding my diary as opposition leader and my diary as a former minister. The Premier said, ‘She<br />

simply will not tell the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> who she is meeting with.’<br />

The Premier knows full well I have replied to a letter he sent to me in February on this matter. I<br />

replied telling him I was seeking advice from the Integrity Commissioner and the Privacy<br />

Commissioner. In addition, the Premier’s own office has sought access to my ministerial diary and his<br />

own RTI officer would know that.<br />

In light of these facts I intend to write to Madam Speaker about what I consider to be the<br />

Premier’s attempt to deliberately mislead the House on this matter. I have no problem releasing<br />

information about my official meetings as opposition leader and have said that publicly. However, I<br />

will not be intimidated into divulging details of meetings with people who have been sacked by this<br />

government or who have allegations of any government wrongdoing.<br />

MINISTERIAL STATEMENT<br />

Error in Ministerial Statement<br />

Hon. GW ELMES (Noosa—LNP) (Minister for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander and<br />

Multicultural Affairs and Minister Assisting the Premier) (4.08 pm), by leave: Yesterday I spoke about<br />

the Australian South Sea islander community and the significance of this year, the 150th anniversary<br />

of the arrival of the first South Sea islanders in Australia. I wish to correct the record relating to a<br />

number I indicated in my statement. The figure of 62,000 relates to the number of South Sea<br />

islanders brought to <strong>Queensland</strong> between 1863 and 1904 as indentured labourers to work in our<br />

primary industries. I unintentionally misled the House. I do apologise and wish to correct the record.


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QUEENSLAND MENTAL HEALTH COMMISSION BILL<br />

Second Reading<br />

Resumed from p. 501, on motion of Mr Springborg—<br />

That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

Hon. LJ SPRINGBORG (Southern Downs—LNP) (Minister for Health) (4.09 pm), continuing in<br />

reply: Before lunch I was responding specifically to some of the questions which had been raised by<br />

honourable members during the course of the debate on the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission<br />

Bill which we are debating in parliament today. I was responding to some of the issues raised by the<br />

honourable member for Gaven. There are a couple of other issues that I would like to respond to.<br />

The honourable member for Gaven basically indicated that he believed it was not broken and<br />

therefore it did not need to be fixed. I can assure members that there are certain aspects of the<br />

operation of the Mental Health Act with regard to the appropriate supervision of forensic patients<br />

which need some degree of additional supervision. As I outlined yesterday, after the events last year<br />

which led to some discussion publicly there was actually a review of the conditions around some of<br />

the patients at a particular facility. It was found that some of the monitoring orders around some of<br />

those people were not being appropriately applied or that needed a proper review.<br />

I say to the honourable member that it is as a consequence of these reviews and that incident<br />

that we were able to find some of the shortcomings. That is what we are trying to address here. We<br />

are trying to establish a process where we are able to ask the Director of Mental Health to review the<br />

circumstances around a particular class of patient or around a particular facility to make sure that<br />

there is no risk to patients and no risk to the public and that if there does need to be some rectification<br />

then that process will be properly undertaken. I cannot force the Director of Mental Health to do<br />

something. Under this legislation I can simply request that the Director of Mental Health look at a<br />

particular matter. The Director of Mental Health will actually take their own advice insofar as what they<br />

seek to do beyond that.<br />

The honourable member indicated that the Director of Mental Health represents the<br />

government. The Director of Mental Health does not represent the government. The Director of<br />

Mental Health is an independent statutory officer who stands aside from the government and is not<br />

even accountable to the director-general. He or she will be an independent statutory officer. People<br />

need to understand that.<br />

We need to make sure that we have a process whereby if there is a public interest issue we<br />

can ask for it to be reviewed—a process similar to that which the Attorney-General has where he can<br />

request a review of a determination of the District Court or Supreme Court or one of the other quasijudicial<br />

bodies. We think it is appropriate that there is that opportunity.<br />

I will look at some of the comments made by other members of parliament. The member for<br />

Logan spoke very passionately about his own experiences as a serviceman and the fact that friends<br />

of his were not able to take the pressures that obviously came from being in a theatre of conflict and<br />

not being supported. I can say to the honourable member opposite that this is something that I am<br />

very much concerned about given my own son is actually in the Australian Infantry in a front-line<br />

position and this year—<br />

Mr Cripps: And proud, too.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: Very proud; exceptionally proud of what he has achieved. I know that later<br />

this year he could potentially be called to serve if there is a conflict somewhere around the world or<br />

could be involved in some other activity within our nation. I understand the member’s views. I am sure<br />

that other members in this House understood them as well.<br />

I think we can all appreciate the contribution of the honourable member for Ferny Grove. He<br />

now very much understands what the new monitoring provisions are about. He objectively had some<br />

concerns in relation to what was being put forward. When he was able to fully understand the entire<br />

context of the legislation and how everything interfaces within it he was very comfortable with the<br />

monitoring provisions contained in the amendments to the Mental Health Act. I very much commend<br />

him for that.<br />

I respect the role of parliamentary committees. Indeed, I was the deputy chairman of the<br />

Committee System Review Committee which actually recommended that we have a new way of<br />

reviewing legislation in <strong>Queensland</strong> to make sure that if there are real issues those issues can be


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considered and there is a chance to make some subsequent amendments. There are some minor<br />

amendments to this legislation which were recommended to us by the committee. Hopefully they will<br />

pass through this place later today.<br />

The member for Townsville spoke about the coordination of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health<br />

Commission. It is very important that we make sure that it is coordinated, and it will be. He also talked<br />

about the monitoring requirements.<br />

The member for Redcliffe mentioned the complexity of mental health issues. There are many<br />

complex mental health issues. One of the great challenges we have as we establish the Mental<br />

Health Commission is to make sure that the resources are appropriately targeted to get the best<br />

benefit for the people we are seeking to assist.<br />

The member for Woodridge spoke again about her own experiences with people with mental<br />

illness and the impact on families. I can assure the honourable member that that is something that not<br />

only she appreciates but I appreciate from personal experience. I think every member in this place<br />

appreciates that.<br />

The honourable member mentioned the impact on carers and the issue of dual diagnosis. They<br />

are very important matters, honourable member. Other members have touched on the issue of drug<br />

induced psychosis. It behoves us to in no way whatsoever take our foot off dealing with the serious<br />

scourge of drugs in our society. Anyone who actually says that drugs are recreational and have no<br />

impact on people should look at the issue of dual diagnosis and the impact that that is having on our<br />

mental health system. It is profound. It can actually lead to what is a latent mental health issue<br />

coming to the fore. Someone who may not have actually had a mental health issue may, because of<br />

drug dependency, end up with a serious mental health issue. It is one of the real challenges that we<br />

have. I acknowledge that the honourable member raised that.<br />

The member for Capalaba reflected on the record of the previous government. He also has a<br />

deep, abiding and passionate understanding of mental illness and how alcohol and drugs can be a<br />

major precursor to that.<br />

The member for Kallangur understood quite clearly the purpose of the legislation and explained<br />

it in detail. I thank him very much for his stewardship of the committee and for the enormous amount<br />

of research he was able to do. He brought that insight and understanding into this parliament.<br />

I would now like to respond specifically to the issues raised by the honourable shadow minister<br />

in her dissertation on the bill before the parliament. She raised the issue of consultation and what<br />

consultation there had been. The consultation framework around the development of the Mental<br />

Health Commission has been undertaken in <strong>Queensland</strong> over the last couple of years, at the very<br />

least. There is no doubt that what we have brought before this parliament today is different in part<br />

from what was being proposed initially by the previous government in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

The honourable member actually indicated that she was most concerned that our version of the<br />

Mental Health Commission did not have the commission being responsible for a budget and being<br />

able to direct that budget. Indeed, in the consultation documents that I have seen and from<br />

discussions with proponents out there in the mental health sector I believe there is overwhelming<br />

concern and opposition to the notion that we should have a Mental Health Commission which is given<br />

the resources and is the one that decides where those resources are spent. The greater degree of<br />

comfort amongst the community was that there should be a Mental Health Commission which stands<br />

aside, directs policy, aims for coordination and aims for best practice with regard to the delivery of<br />

mental health services in <strong>Queensland</strong> and oversees how they are distributed and the effect they<br />

actually have whilst not being involved in the direct distribution of the money. It can actually make<br />

recommendations to government and no doubt we will take those on board.<br />

If we look at Western Australia where they have had a model where the commission is actually<br />

responsible for not only the policy but also the financial management, I understand now on the advice<br />

available to me that they are stepping away from that and going more towards this particular model.<br />

Also, in New South Wales the model is very much about a policy coordination body, and that is what<br />

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The member also fretted terribly about the fact that we are only going to make available a<br />

limited number of staff to support the commission. Once again—and the honourable member for<br />

Murrumba summed this up—we are about outcomes; we are not about inputs. The Labor Party have<br />

always managed the way they do things by the amount of money they throw at a problem. They<br />

would love to build another bureaucracy out of the Mental Health Commission. Indeed, the previous<br />

Premier of <strong>Queensland</strong> when asked in this place about why she was looking at splitting the health<br />

department in two said that it had just got too big—the bureaucracy was too big and we needed to<br />

have another health department in <strong>Queensland</strong>. So they were going to split it into two because one<br />

was not big enough, rather than doing what we have done and that is looking at cutting the<br />

department in half, full stop, reducing its size. That is what we should be about.<br />

Indeed, she asked a question about the resources of the commission and who we will have<br />

there in addition to the full-time commissioner who will be appointed as equivalent to a senior<br />

executive officer. The initial structure will be one SO1, one SO2, two AO8s and two AO7s. So they<br />

will be pretty senior officers, and of course there is an opportunity for us to look at the resources as<br />

necessary. But this is a policy body. This is a body that is about not only looking at how we actually<br />

establish a mental health framework that meets the needs of people who have a requirement for<br />

mental health services in this state but also the coordination of those services, and it is able to<br />

leverage off and actually guide and direct the policy in this state. That is the importance of this body.<br />

Indeed, if we look at the most successful models around the world when it comes to mental health<br />

commissions, it is the lean and focused organisations that really do make the most difference.<br />

The honourable member also mentioned the issue of gag orders, which was quite strange in<br />

the context of this debate. It is very true that, as the custodian of the disbursement of $1 billion of<br />

public funds to groups and organisations outside of <strong>Queensland</strong> Health, I am going to make sure that<br />

we get the best value for our money, and I think everyone should understand that. When we asked<br />

after we came to government in <strong>Queensland</strong> for a list of the organisations which were being funded in<br />

this state, I was told after three months of frustration, ‘Minister, we are having difficulty because no<br />

minister has asked for this for 10 years.’ These were not service agreements, as the honourable<br />

member said. These were gratuities thrown at a whole bunch of people that the Labor Party was<br />

favouring in one way or another. Many of them were noble organisations with noble intent, but there<br />

was no quid pro quo of what do we actually get for the money that we spend.<br />

Some of those organisations were funded for political advocacy. That was actually in their<br />

criteria. We are not funding organisations for political advocacy. If they get the majority of funding<br />

from me, they will actually be focused on delivering a service to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong>. We have<br />

enough advocacy organisations. If they want to advocate on behalf of individuals, they can do that.<br />

There is no-one stopping them from advocating on behalf of individuals. All we are saying is that,<br />

when it comes to the issues of legislative change, it is members of parliament who decide this. We<br />

already have one taxpayer funded opposition. How many more do you want to fund in the state of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>?<br />

Mr Cripps: Well-resourced too.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: Yes, they are well-resourced too. That is the core responsibility. In Health I<br />

pay organisations to deliver health services to the community, and in the future they we will have<br />

very, very strict KPIs around them.<br />

There will be enormous transparency with regard to the Mental Health Commission. It will<br />

report to me and obviously report to the parliament. It is going to be a very transparent organisation<br />

and will be able to be judged by what it achieves.<br />

The other issue that was raised by the honourable member was that of alcohol and drugs. We<br />

have had a fragmentation over a number of years where alcohol and drugs have basically sat outside<br />

of the mental health sphere. We are about bringing them into the sphere so that we can provide a<br />

coordinated approach because they are so intricately linked, as a number of members, including<br />

members opposite, have mentioned during the debate over the last 24 hours. It is very important that<br />

we bring them back into the mental health framework so that there is no longer a fragmented<br />

approach, and that is what it is about.<br />

Community based treatment from my perspective is very, very important. Indeed, the<br />

arrangements which I am signing with the Commonwealth government are very much around a<br />

community based focus. If it is around funding for more acute clinical facilities, I am saying that I am<br />

not really interested in that at this stage. I am interested in the funding which is focused on community


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treatment options because I believe they are the ones that really are efficient and that make a<br />

difference, and we have some wonderful examples of that throughout <strong>Queensland</strong>. That is not to say<br />

that we do not need the more acute options. I think everyone understands that. But I agree that<br />

community based treatment is extremely important and, unashamedly, that is where I would like to<br />

see us go. I would hope that as a part of the core remit of the Mental Health Commission it seriously<br />

looks at that, and I am sure it will.<br />

Again, the honourable member fretted about the issue of the release of information to do with a<br />

patient and The Park. I say to the honourable member that there has been no breach of any<br />

provisions of any laws. The honourable member should ask her own members of parliament if any of<br />

them are actually subject to information from these very same people at The Park who were<br />

concerned about the way that this particular patient was being treated and the cost of treating this<br />

patient—information that was shared by those people to one of her own members. So maybe she<br />

might seek to look around in that particular field.<br />

This is good legislation. It will reform the way that we deal with people with mental illness in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>. Not only that, with the amendments to the Mental Health Act, it ensures a proper<br />

balance with the safety and security of the community.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Question put—That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Bill read a second time.<br />

Consideration in Detail<br />

Clauses 1 to 7, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clauses 8 to 13—<br />

Mr PITT (4.27 pm): I am currently standing in for the shadow minister for health who is caught<br />

up in a committee meeting, so I am a ring-in at this point in time. Clauses 8 to 13 are about<br />

establishing the Mental Health Commission without the power originally recommended in the first<br />

report of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Advisory Committee and agreed to by the<br />

previous government. The original intention, as many members would have heard, was about the<br />

commission having the powers of a department of the Crown to hold the allocation for all moneys for<br />

the provision of mental health services.<br />

While the establishment of the Mental Health Commission is a positive move for mental health<br />

reform in this state, it has been the view that this really will be a hollow shell without any real powers<br />

or budgets to drive reform. I think this has been covered quite extensively throughout the debate. But<br />

when the original consultation was being undertaken, one of the questions asked of various<br />

stakeholders was: ‘We all know we want the Mental Health Commission to have teeth. What kind of<br />

teeth would you like it to have?’ It came down to having sharp, pointy teeth or thicker, gnashing sort of<br />

teeth—the difference being that the sharp, pointy teeth were probably all about the idea of being able<br />

to be a very, very independent body that was able to lob hand grenades and be a fierce advocate and<br />

often disagree with the government versus a group that might be able to do that over a long, slower<br />

burning period but have the ability to control the purse strings. That was a pretty important point.<br />

I respect that the minister says that through his consultations and the groups he has spoken to<br />

he has not had the feedback that that model is supported. Can I say, Minister, that a large number of<br />

people whom we have spoken to through that process, including the advisory committee, suggested<br />

that that was absolutely the case—that people did want it to have the power to be able to control<br />

purchasing not only to be able to put those services out to the private sector, if required, to private<br />

providers but also to be able to cover the public sector areas of mental health and for them to be<br />

competitive.<br />

I think this is a missed opportunity. It is disappointing to see that this is not going to be the<br />

case. It is certainly something that the Labor opposition will be looking at in greater detail down the<br />

track. It is not something that we support, but I do not intend calling a division on this clause. We<br />

support the Mental Health Commission as an entity. We certainly support it because it was a Labor<br />

initiative, which I do not think many LNP backbenchers have acknowledged. They think this has come<br />

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I remember debating the former shadow minister, the member for Caloundra, prior to the<br />

election. It was a spirited debate. We basically agreed on 90 per cent of things but not on the<br />

structure. I think that has been missed today. There seems to be a lot of finger-pointing or claiming of<br />

credit by the LNP in relation to this particular body.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: Over the last 24 hours or so that we have been debating this legislation I<br />

think everyone has displayed a clear understanding of the core remit and structure of the commission.<br />

It is a policy body. It is about making sure we can develop the best possible policy practices in the<br />

area of mental health in <strong>Queensland</strong>. Its obligation is to consult widely and to ensure integration of the<br />

various aspects of mental health care across government departments. Also, it will have a very<br />

important role in interfacing very strongly with the National Mental Health Commission. Indeed, only a<br />

few months ago I had a discussion with Professor Allan Fels, the inaugural chair of the National<br />

Mental Health Commission, about what we were proposing in <strong>Queensland</strong> and how this is one of the<br />

most important issues that we as a society have to address. We have already set that framework for<br />

consultation. We have already set that framework for engagement. We have already set that<br />

framework to ensure we will have a commission which is very focused on its core remit.<br />

Fragmentation is something which has been of major concern across <strong>Queensland</strong>. That<br />

fragmentation across the various government agencies, whether it be in the area of health, housing or<br />

disabilities, is something that we all agree needs to be addressed. I have never said as a part of my<br />

contribution that there has been principled objection across the chamber about the need for a Mental<br />

Health Commission or, indeed, generally what its purpose should be in seeking to make the lives of<br />

people with mental illness in this state better. Where we seem to have some difference of opinion is<br />

around that particular structure.<br />

The honourable member for Mulgrave indicated a moment ago that he believes that a structure<br />

of a Mental Health Commission responsible for not only policy but also the distribution of funds and<br />

oversight is the best way to go. We do not feel that is the case. Indeed, from the majority of<br />

consultations I have had, both here in <strong>Queensland</strong> and elsewhere, it is evident that the mental health<br />

sector does not actually believe that that is the way to go. There may be some, but the majority of<br />

those who have come forward are saying that they believe this is a better way to go.<br />

Mr Pitt: How times change.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: Times change. As I indicated earlier to the honourable member, unless I<br />

have misunderstood the advice to me, Western Australia is now looking at stepping away from the<br />

model they used of a Mental Health Commission which oversees funding and policy. The reason is<br />

that sometimes you can become so embedded in an issue and can become conflicted by the fact that<br />

you are setting the policy and also distributing the funds. Therefore, you can be less objective in the<br />

assessment of the effect. If you are making mistakes, you will not necessarily want to admit that the<br />

funding decisions you made were not the right ones.<br />

I think it is important to have a lean, focused, well tasked Mental Health Commission in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> that absolutely understands its core remit, that is completely transparent and that will set<br />

policy. One of the things it has to do is look at what our policy needs to be, what our framework needs<br />

to be for a new approach to mental health in <strong>Queensland</strong>. I actually concede that the framework we<br />

have had to date—the plan which takes us through to 2017—has been reasonably well put together. I<br />

think it has guided us reasonably well. But things obviously need to be changed along the way, and I<br />

believe that this commission will be able to assist us. Either way, this is a good opportunity for us to<br />

look at the plan we have had to date—its application, what is good about it, how we need to take it<br />

forward.<br />

As I have already indicated, there is an enormous amount of support in this parliament in<br />

relation to community treatment options. I think community treatment options generally provide some<br />

of the most cost-effective and better outcomes. We saw a wonderful example on the southside of<br />

Brisbane the other day. I was in Christchurch last year looking at one of the NGOs delivering this<br />

service. You can see the outcomes. We all understand that they are good outcomes.<br />

Mr Pitt: Stepping Stone.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: Yes. Very, very good. There are various options out there, but that will<br />

never take away from the fact that we need to have investment in acute care. That is fair enough as<br />

well.


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The other concern raised during the process of consultation was the lack of effective interface<br />

in the original consultations with the private and not-for-profit sectors. I note that the honourable<br />

member earlier conceded that even under a Mental Health Commission model proposed by the<br />

previous government—where not only the policy but also the funding was set—there would be<br />

opportunity for distribution in that particular area. So it did need to be looked at because there are<br />

things that we do that constantly change. No doubt, at some time in the future this legislation will need<br />

to be tweaked or modified. Legislation never remains unchanged.<br />

From our perspective, we believe, based on our consultations and our objective analysis of<br />

what is working in <strong>Queensland</strong>, interstate and overseas, that a model of a Mental Health Commission<br />

established as a policymaking, coordination body that can really focus on that and be supported by<br />

the resources of government is the best way to go. That will leave distribution of funds and the<br />

objective assessment of that distribution of funds to a body which is independent and which does not<br />

face the conflict that they hold the cash and have to spend the cash. That means they are not torn<br />

between differing obligations. We believe that this is the best way to do it. That is what we have put<br />

before this parliament. We believe, based on our consultations, that those in the sector also support<br />

this as being the best model of delivery.<br />

Clauses 8 to 13, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clauses 14 to 60, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clauses 61 to 64—<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG (4.37 pm): I seek leave to move amendments en bloc.<br />

Leave granted.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: I move the following amendments—<br />

1 Clause 63 (Amendment of s 191 (Decisions on review))<br />

Page 33, line 3, ‘Section’—<br />

omit, insert—<br />

(1) Section<br />

2 Clause 63 (Amendment of s 191 (Decisions on review))<br />

Page 33, after line 7—<br />

insert—<br />

(2) Section 191(3), ‘subsection (2)’—<br />

omit, insert—<br />

subsection (2)(a) to (c)<br />

I table the explanatory notes to the amendments.<br />

Tabled paper: <strong>Queensland</strong> Mental Health Commission Bill 2012, explanatory notes to Hon. Lawrence Springborg’s<br />

amendments [2209].<br />

These amendments are about clarifying particular matters which were identified by the<br />

committee to ensure consistency in the application of the legislation. I think the amendments are<br />

pretty well self-explanatory. They have the support of the committee.<br />

Mr PITT: Clauses 61 to 64 as they originally stand are about empowering the Director of<br />

Mental Health to require monitoring of patients on limited community treatment. This may include<br />

requiring patients to wear electronic ankle bracelets. We expressed some concerns about these<br />

issues in the debate. Evidence presented to the Health and Community Services Committee stated<br />

that the electronic tagging of patients can be detrimental to patient recovery as it can undermine the<br />

therapeutic relationship with the treatment team, which is central to recovery.<br />

It is without evidence of effectiveness in the recovery of mental health patients, it is not costeffective<br />

and it may contravene the United Nations principles for the protection of people with mental<br />

illness and the National Standards for Mental Health Services 2010. The real question to be asked is:<br />

does the minister believe that he or the Director of Mental Health is in a better position than the<br />

treating psychiatrist of a forensic patient to assess the risk associated with limited community


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treatment? This is a concern because essentially people want to see a clinician, not a politician,<br />

making the decision. We do have concerns about this and they have been expressed during the<br />

debate. We will not be supporting these clauses.<br />

I will also say that it is a bit concerning that these amendments which amend the minister’s<br />

amendments seem to have been brought in at the last minute. I would have thought that the<br />

government would have had plenty of time to do this before now. There is a concern that the minister<br />

may not be focusing as much on the area of mental health as he could be because it is one<br />

department all wrapped up in <strong>Queensland</strong> Health, and that is a concern. If that is the case, maybe if<br />

there were less focus on privatisation of public services this bill may have taken a higher priority.<br />

I wish to pick up on something that was mentioned during the minister’s contribution today. He<br />

criticised a member for suggesting in their contribution that someone should be treated in a certain<br />

way. I think he used the term ‘curing somebody’. You are never cured when you have mental health<br />

issues. All of us are on that spectrum of mental health, whether it is ill health, being functional or<br />

whatever the case may be. People in the community certainly need to recover; they are never cured. I<br />

think that is a very important point to make. If we are going to be talking about language I think we<br />

should be talking about people’s mental health and their recovery rather than ‘being cured’.<br />

Division: Question put—That the amendments be agreed to.<br />

AYES, 68—Bates, Bennett, Berry, Bleijie, Boothman, Cavallucci, Choat, Costigan, Cox, Cripps, Crisafulli, Davies, C Davis, T<br />

Davis, Dempsey, Dillaway, Dowling, Driscoll, Elmes, Emerson, Flegg, France, Frecklington, Gibson, Grant, Grimwade, Gulley,<br />

Hart, Hathaway, Hobbs, Holswich, Hopper, Johnson, Kaye, Kempton, King, Knuth, Krause, Langbroek, Latter, Maddern,<br />

Malone, Mander, Millard, Minnikin, Molhoek, Nicholls, Ostapovitch, Powell, Pucci, Rice, Rickuss, Robinson, Ruthenberg,<br />

Seeney, Shorten, Shuttleworth, Smith, Springborg, Stevens, Stewart, Symes, Trout, Watts, Woodforth, Young. Tellers:<br />

Menkens, Sorensen<br />

NOES, 9—Douglas, Judge, Miller, Palaszczuk, Pitt, Trad, Wellington. Tellers: Mulherin, Scott<br />

Resolved in the affirmative.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG (4.51 pm): I wish to make a couple of comments with regard to the division.<br />

I think it is quite extraordinary that we see those opposite voting against amendments which were<br />

recommended to correct a drafting error that was picked up by the committee which scrutinised the<br />

bill. A moment ago the honourable Leader of Opposition Business indicated that we should spend a<br />

bit more time with regard to the accuracy of drafting. If all that the committee can pick up after three or<br />

four months of scrutiny is that there are a couple of errors with regard to drafting, I think that is pretty<br />

well done. I have seen situations in this place involving a range of legislation brought in by the<br />

previous government where the amendments were much greater and much more substantive than<br />

the original legislation.<br />

Mr Bleijie: Lucas had 53 amendments.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: As the honourable Attorney-General says, the previous Deputy Premier<br />

had 53 amendments to his electoral bill.<br />

As I indicated earlier in my contribution, whilst we may not necessarily always agree with<br />

recommendations from a parliamentary committee, it behoves us to properly consider its<br />

recommendations, particularly when they identify things such as drafting errors, which have been<br />

minor in this particular case because it was very small indeed. We accepted that and we will be doing<br />

more of that in the future. That is the beauty of a process where you introduce legislation and you let<br />

a committee go away and look at it and pick up some things which may not have been identified<br />

earlier. We understand that the opposition has some concern with regard to the substantive nature of<br />

the clauses. That is a matter for it, but the amendments simply sought to clarify what was a numerical<br />

drafting error.<br />

I want to indicate that I think the honourable member for Mulgrave is right. I used the term<br />

‘cured’. I think the term ‘recovery’ is a better term, and I suppose we can all use terminology that upon<br />

reflection could be a little bit better. That is absolutely right because, as the honourable member<br />

knows, we do not know what we may be subject to from time to time—that is, a latent issue which<br />

arises relating to dual diagnosis or some other thing that manifests itself later in life or somebody who<br />

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what the honourable member said. That also brings us to the nub of the challenge that we have—that<br />

is, ensuring that we get the balance right with community protection whilst also ensuring that we<br />

understand the needs of the people who are mentally ill in order to assist them with their recovery.<br />

The honourable member asked the question: who is better able to make a decision? Of course,<br />

the medical professionals are better placed to make those particular decisions. I am not saying that<br />

they are not better placed to make those particular decisions. All I am saying, honourable member, is<br />

that they do not always get it right and therefore we need a mechanism which can provide a greater<br />

degree of certainty of public safety. All we are doing here is providing an opportunity for the minister<br />

to be able to ask for a matter to be looked at or for the Director of Mental Health to be able to consider<br />

the monitoring of a patient who has a mental health condition and has also come into contact with the<br />

criminal justice system. Indeed, if the Director of Mental Health is concerned after consultation with<br />

that person’s treating psychiatrist that there needs to be a greater process of monitoring that<br />

particular patient, then that patient may have applied to them a monitoring device.<br />

As we said in this place yesterday, and as other members also indicated, we are particularly<br />

interested in a very small subset of forensic patients who are subject to orders for crimes that have<br />

been committed which are in what one would say is the most heinous category. There is a very small<br />

subset of those even where there is concern about whether they can be safely put back into the<br />

community and where there may not necessarily be a better way of monitoring that particular person.<br />

As we indicated, there are potentially 18 people and a very small subset of those may be affected by<br />

this. But we are leaving it to the treating psychiatrist in collaboration with the Director of Mental Health<br />

or whom they delegate to make those decisions.<br />

Of course, if there is a concern about the onerousness of those monitoring conditions, that is<br />

able to be reviewed by the Mental Health Review Tribunal as well. But indeed I think it would be<br />

wrong to say that those who treat patients always get it right. They probably get it right on the greatest<br />

majority of occasions, but we do need to have safeguards. Frankly, it is not those who make the<br />

mistake who are standing up there justifying a mistake that can end tragically. It is often the minister<br />

or somebody senior in the department who did not make that particular decision. So we need to have<br />

a guardian of the public interest when it comes to this so that we are providing ourselves with the<br />

ability to be able to cause something to be reviewed which may actually see a monitoring device fitted<br />

to somebody. Just the same as the Attorney-General has the right to ask for a matter to be reviewed,<br />

in the circumstances where we have patients who have been subject to not only the mental health but<br />

also the criminal justice system we are just seeking the ability to cause a review to happen to cause<br />

an extra level of safety to be imposed if we believe that there is a concern. Those professionals will<br />

make that particular decision, as they do in the case of the Attorney-General when a matter is<br />

reviewed by the court or by another more senior tribunal in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Again, I point to the incidents which have happened in <strong>Queensland</strong>, as rare as they are. But if<br />

something goes wrong and it was avoidable, it is not the people who made the original decision who<br />

have to justify it; it is those who are in public office, and we need to make sure that we get the right<br />

level of accountability. As I pointed out to the honourable member yesterday, following an incident at<br />

The Park last year when somebody was absent without authorisation, a review was conducted as a<br />

consequence of that using the limited provisions that existed and issues were found around the<br />

conditions that were placed on a very small number of those patients. Having a robust process which<br />

ensures that things are happening properly can provide balance for the families of the mentally ill, the<br />

mentally ill themselves and also the community at large, because some families out there are most<br />

concerned to know that their loved one who has a mental illness can be properly supervised and<br />

monitored, because they have the same concerns as anyone else.<br />

Clauses 61 to 64, as amended, agreed to.<br />

Clauses 65 to 69, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clauses 70 to 72—<br />

Mr PITT (4.59 pm): I will be brief again on this. Clause 70 seeks to give more weight to the<br />

rights of other persons than to those of the involuntary patient. Broadly, we think the government is<br />

undermining the intent of the Mental Health Act to protect the rights of those persons experiencing<br />

mental ill health. This is a conscious strategy of fearmongering as far as we can see. We do not


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believe that this is a necessary component. We would be very interested to see the root and the<br />

rationale behind this, and I would certainly be interested to hear what the minister has to say as to<br />

why he has brought this forward.<br />

My understanding is that there is a suggestion about it equating all forensic mental health<br />

patients with serious sexual offenders. If the minister does not believe that to be the case he can<br />

certainly correct the record in that regard, but that is the concern that the opposition has.<br />

Clause 71 will give the minister a power that he currently does not have to direct the Director of<br />

Mental Health to investigate, review and report on and consider specific actions at any time the<br />

minister or his staff believe it to be a significant matter. That clause relates to where they perceive a<br />

risk to that patient or to the public. This is a very serious matter. I take on board the minister’s<br />

comments that he is trying to provide this power in cases where he thinks it may be necessary, but<br />

we believe that it is an attempt at direct political interference by the minister and his staff in the<br />

function of mental health services.<br />

I think the Minister for Health can now direct the Director of Mental Health to delegate his<br />

powers to officials for matters to be considered by the minister as significant. I go back to that<br />

scenario. I do not think there have been significant concerns to date that that system has failed. I<br />

believe this amendment is going against the spirit of the Mental Health Act as it stands. The minister<br />

may well wish to explain again his thoughts on that, but the opposition is not convinced. We have<br />

concerns and we will not be supporting that aspect of the amendment.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: I can assure the honourable member for Mulgrave that there is no sinister<br />

conspiracy around this amendment whatsoever. Last year it came to my attention when I was not<br />

informed of an issue. There was significant public concern about a person who had gone absent<br />

without authorisation. We then started to look at the provisions of the legislation and our ability to<br />

review a circumstance where there seemed to be a clear indication of failing in the system, (a) to<br />

appropriately monitor and, (b) to put the right conditions on someone to start with and also whether<br />

we were able to properly inform the public at large if a person had gone without authorisation.<br />

As I sought to dig and delve a little bit deeper into this issue, I found the great irony was that, if<br />

any of the hundreds of thousands of patients who go into a <strong>Queensland</strong> hospital each year go<br />

missing and we are concerned about their health and welfare we are able to release their details to<br />

secure them and make sure they are safe, but we are not able to do that with this particular subset of<br />

people who are covered under the Mental Health Act. That was one matter where I said we needed to<br />

ensure change in that area. We have to have consistency so that if there is a concern in limited cases<br />

we can bring these matters to the attention of the public. The public can be involved in identifying<br />

people so that patients can be safely secured and repatriated to the appropriate treatment.<br />

Does this mean that every single person who is subject to breaching a limited community<br />

treatment order should be subject to such an action? No, it does not, honourable member. Each year<br />

many hundreds, if not thousands, of people under the involuntary treatment regime undertake<br />

something that is unauthorised or do not turn up for treatment and they are of no harm to anyone.<br />

Everyone understands that. We are talking about a limited risk. Nevertheless, in the past there have<br />

been examples of people who have not been appropriately monitored or left with appropriate<br />

authorisation who have gone on to do something that is extremely serious. As we found out, there is a<br />

limitation on our ability to appropriately ensure that a person is secured, that they have the right sort<br />

of monitoring, that they have the right sort of support.<br />

Again, I say that after that incident last year when we conducted a review within the bounds of<br />

the act at the time, we found a number of cases where the application of the act was found wanting in<br />

the way it applied to some patients. That was not me; that was the provisions of the act. What<br />

happened was the catalyst to look at the act.<br />

This amendment does not give me the ability to say to the Director of the Mental Health, ‘Put a<br />

GPS monitoring device on patient X.’ It does not give me the ability to suspend someone’s orders. It<br />

simply gives me the ability to ask the Director of Mental Health to review a set of circumstances and<br />

the director will make the decision. If there is no problem, if there seems to be an abundance of<br />

competence and appropriateness around the way a person has been classified, the way a person has<br />

been provided with appropriate supervision and treatment, I do not think there is any issue. The<br />

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where we are trying to demonise all of these people? No. I think we all have people like this who we<br />

are close to or who are members of our own family. So we understand the complexity of the issue.<br />

This is about striking a balance. As we found out, there were some issues where the act was wanting.<br />

I note the honourable member opposite also talked about whether this amendment breaches<br />

our provisions under some international treaty. I do not believe that is the case, because in the United<br />

Kingdom, which is the bastion of democracy and our justice system and its application of natural<br />

justice and all of those sorts of things, I understand that similarly they are looking at or have adopted<br />

a similar approach to people in similar circumstances. So I can assure the honourable member that<br />

this amendment is just about balancing public safety, making sure that people can be appropriately<br />

monitored and that they have received the appropriate orders. It just gives us the ability to be able to<br />

ask for a review. Does the member think I will be doing it all the time? No way on earth, because that<br />

is not what this amendment is about. But when you are in my position and discover what we<br />

discovered last year, which was objectively brought to my attention, then we need to have some<br />

clarification around this issue whilst making sure that we respect it in the overall bounds of the Mental<br />

Health Act, which is the spirit of the act and that is that the person has to be treated in a humane<br />

environment, which is about treatment, which is about recovery.<br />

Yesterday in my contribution I made the point that <strong>Queensland</strong> has been a leader in this area in<br />

Australia for probably three decades. It goes back to the middle of the 1980s at least with regard to<br />

the then coalition government in this state deciding that there should be a regime that treated people<br />

with a mental health illness differently from just plonking them in the criminal justice system. Other<br />

places around Australia have a different approach. So this amendment preserves the spirit of the act,<br />

which has been adhered to by both sides of this place over a long period, to understand the need to<br />

strike a balance and understand the need for some review. That is all that this amendment does.<br />

In regard to the issue of delegation, of course there needs to be a power of delegation. We<br />

have the power of delegation in legislation. The minister can delegate, statutory officers can delegate<br />

because people cannot always do that themselves. The Director of Mental Health may delegate to<br />

somebody who is equally as well qualified to look at that because of their knowledge of a situation. So<br />

having a delegation power is nothing sinister in itself. The power has to be delegated to somebody<br />

who is appropriately qualified and who is aware of the legislative requirements and bounds.<br />

Clauses 70 to 72, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clause 73—<br />

Mr PITT (5.09 pm): This clause inserts a new division 1A in chapter 13, part 1. It addresses a<br />

perceived serious risk to person or public safety. It gives the minister the powers to direct the Director<br />

of Mental Health to investigate, review and report to the minister on matters of risk to public safety<br />

and to consider taking action such as suspending limited community treatment for a patient or for a<br />

class of patients.<br />

There may be a denial of natural justice when the circumstances of individual patients within<br />

classes of patients are not taken into consideration. Mental health experts have pointed out that such<br />

decisions to suspend treatments in this manner may contravene the United Nations Principles for the<br />

Protection of People With Mental Illness and the National Standards for Mental Health Services 2010.<br />

This clause gives the minister the power to direct the Director of Mental Health to investigate, review<br />

and report to the minister and, of course, consider taking action such as suspending limited<br />

community treatment for a class of patients. Such suspensions may include limited community<br />

treatment orders approved by the Mental Health Court or the Mental Health Review Tribunal.<br />

Suspension could also include all the forensic patients of a specific mental health service, all forensic<br />

patients in the first three months of their limited community treatment or all the classified patients of a<br />

specified psychiatrist.<br />

Such suspensions of limited community treatment can involve the police immediately returning<br />

a patient from their workplace or educational institution to an authorised inpatient mental health<br />

facility. This is the intent of clause 74. While the minister’s powers are still limited when it comes to<br />

forcing the director to undertake specific actions, he can certainly forcefully request the director to<br />

consider specific action. The action could include notifying the Attorney-General and/or the Police<br />

Commissioner about matters the minister considers significant. I think we have spelt out our concerns<br />

about some previous elements. I think some of the arguments would be the same. I have no doubt<br />

the minister’s response will be largely the same. That does not change the fact that the opposition<br />

has concerns about this and we wish to put that on the record.


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Mr SPRINGBORG: The honourable member for Mulgrave is right in what he said earlier on—<br />

that is, our arguments will be very much the same and we have ventilated them throughout. If we go<br />

back to the incidents that raised my concerns late last year and were actually investigated within the<br />

powers of the department at that particular time, we saw there was a need to look at the<br />

circumstances surrounding the treatment of some patients. Within the powers vested in the right<br />

people they did conduct a review and found the need for some corrective action. All we are doing<br />

here is providing the ability for the minister, as the guardian of the public interest principle, to be able<br />

to request, through the appropriate independent officer, a desire to review the treatment regime<br />

around a certain class or a subset of patients if there is some particular concern.<br />

I used an example before of where we were able to identify the need for corrective action. This<br />

is a more proactive approach. This is not something that is going to be used willy-nilly. That is not<br />

what it is about. It is to provide a head of power within the overall safeguards of the legislation. All we<br />

are asking for is that the minister can direct the investigation of particular matters. We cannot direct<br />

the outcome. All we are asking for is matters to be looked at, reviews to be considered and leaving it<br />

in the hands of appropriate people to be able to do that.<br />

Clause 73, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clause 74, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clause 75—<br />

Mr PITT (5.13 pm): This clause amends the offence under clause 526 of the Mental Health Act<br />

of publishing information identifying patients involved in the proceedings of the Mental Health Court or<br />

the Mental Health Review Tribunal, for example forensic patients. Two new sections authorise the<br />

director to allow publication of information about forensic patients if he or she believes there is<br />

reasonable grounds of a serious risk to a person or to the community. The minister and possibly his<br />

staff can now formally request the Director of Mental Health to consider such publication.<br />

Past experience highlights that such publication of information about forensic patients on<br />

limited community treatment can be sensationalised by the media and used to generate fear in the<br />

community. That is really at the heart of our argument. As we have heard throughout this entire<br />

debate, there is already enough of a stigma around mental health. Whilst we are talking about people<br />

who may be under forensic orders, and I understand that that does come with heinous crimes that<br />

they may have perpetrated or have had some involvement in, I do think that as a community we have<br />

to be very careful about how we handle that information in order to ensure that we are not creating a<br />

sense of fear unnecessarily in the community. That comes down to the safeguards as presented by<br />

the minister earlier on.<br />

The minister, and possibly those acting on his behalf, is now protected from civil liability by<br />

clause 76 of this bill amending section 536 of the Mental Health Act. Again, we wish to express our<br />

concerns regarding this clause. We will not be dividing on this; we are just expressing reservation.<br />

This is going to be one of those cases of watching and seeing how this all works in practice. I look<br />

forward to the minister’s comments in this regard.<br />

Mr SPRINGBORG: I understand the concerns the honourable member has raised. It is not my<br />

intention to be publishing the identity of people willy-nilly. That is not what this is about. In recent<br />

times a couple of forensic patients have been involved in incidents which were very serious. They<br />

were absent without authorisation. I held media conferences saying we could not disclose their<br />

identity and when I went back into my office I found that the media had the person up on their website<br />

from their sources. There is some concern out there and I am saying I cannot disclose their identity<br />

but it is being published by somebody who has an inside source. We can gather where that may be.<br />

We can all speculate. It is a ridiculous situation. There is an ambiguity at the moment.<br />

Under the Hospital and Health Boards Act there is the ability for the chief executive to publish<br />

information in relation to a patient who they are concerned about. It might be a patient who has<br />

dementia, a child, someone who has walked out or somebody who has come in and done something<br />

wrong. They can do that if it means there will be a better outcome. But if it is a patient under the<br />

Mental Health Act they are not able to disclose that information. It is not something they exercise and<br />

want to do on all occasions. Most people who are the subject of limited community treatment or<br />

involuntary treatment orders are probably of more harm to themselves than the general community.<br />

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This is about making sure that we clear up this ambiguity and we are able to appropriately<br />

release that information. It has to be read together with the Hospital and Health Boards Act to make<br />

sure that we understand what this is all about. It provides an appropriate balance. It ensures that<br />

there is no ambiguity. In relation to any one of the other hundreds of thousands of patients each year<br />

in <strong>Queensland</strong> if there is a particular concern the information is able to be released, but, when it<br />

comes to this particular classification of patients, if there are concerns then we are not able to do it<br />

under the legislation at the moment because of that particular ambiguity. We want to clear that up.<br />

Clause 75, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clauses 76 to 79, as read, agreed to.<br />

Schedule, as read, agreed to.<br />

Third Reading<br />

Hon. LJ SPRINGBORG (Southern Downs—LNP) (Minister for Health) (5.19 pm): I move—<br />

That the bill, as amended, be now read a third time.<br />

Question put—That the bill, as amended, be now read a third time.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Bill read a third time.<br />

Long Title<br />

Hon. LJ SPRINGBORG (Southern Downs—LNP) (Minister for Health) (5.19 pm): I move—<br />

That the long title of the bill be agreed to.<br />

Question put—That the long title of the bill be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

MOTION<br />

Sessional Orders<br />

Mr STEVENS (Mermaid Beach—LNP) (Manager of Government Business) (5.19 pm), by<br />

leave, without notice: I move—<br />

That so much of the sessional orders be suspended to allow the dinner break to be from 6.30 pm to 8.00 pm this evening.<br />

Question put—That the motion be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

COMMERCIAL ARBITRATION BILL<br />

Resumed from 30 October 2012 (see p. 2186).<br />

Second Reading<br />

Hon. JW SEENEY (Callide—LNP) (Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development,<br />

Infrastructure and Planning) (5.20 pm): I move—<br />

That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

I present the second reading speech for the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012 on behalf of the<br />

Hon. Jarrod Bleijie MP, Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, who at the moment is engaged in<br />

some urgent committee business. I present the second reading speech for this bill on his behalf. I<br />

thank the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee for its report and for its consideration of the<br />

submissions it received. I also thank the stakeholders who contributed to the committee process by<br />

providing their thoughtful submissions: the Australian Centre for International Commercial Arbitration,<br />

the Institute for Arbitrators and Mediators Australia, the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society, the Bar Association<br />

of <strong>Queensland</strong> and the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators Australia. I now table the <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

government’s response to that report.<br />

Tabled paper: Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee: Report No. 19—Commercial Arbitration Bill, government<br />

response [2210].


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The committee has recommended that the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012 be passed. The<br />

purpose of the bill is, of course, to replace the current <strong>Queensland</strong> Commercial Arbitration Act 1990.<br />

In doing so, it adopts the provisions of a model bill developed by the former Standing Committee of<br />

Attorneys-General, which has been adopted in other states and the Northern Territory. The model bill<br />

combines domestic commercial arbitration provisions with the United Nations Commission on<br />

International Trade Law Model Law on International Commercial Arbitration. The bill will harmonise<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s domestic commercial arbitration regime with the Commonwealth International<br />

Arbitration Act 1974.<br />

The purpose of the model bill is to update and modernise existing commercial arbitration law,<br />

ensuring that Australian arbitration provides more accessible, cost-effective and timely processes for<br />

the fair and impartial resolution of commercial disputes as an alternative to litigation. This bill will<br />

ensure <strong>Queensland</strong>’s adherence to world standards in commercial dissolution resolution. Therefore, it<br />

is not surprising that key stakeholders have overwhelmingly supported the passage of the bill in its<br />

current form, which maximises uniformity with the model bill.<br />

Nevertheless, some stakeholders have raised issues relating to the drafting and operation of<br />

certain provisions adopted from the model bill. For example, the Bar Association of <strong>Queensland</strong> made<br />

six recommendations for amendment to the bill, largely relating to the use of terminology. They made<br />

suggestions for clarification and the placement of certain provisions. It also questioned the intent of<br />

provisions describing decisions of the court as final in the context of possible appeals from the<br />

Supreme Court to the High Court.<br />

The Chartered Institute of Arbitrators (Australia) Limited raised two concerns. However, they<br />

noted that they may be best left until after the <strong>Queensland</strong> bill is passed. The first concern relates to<br />

section 21 of the Commonwealth International Arbitration Act 2010 and whether it leaves parties who,<br />

prior to 6 July 2010, had agreed to arbitrate pursuant to the repealed state acts without an arbitral law<br />

to govern their arbitration. The institute also recommended deleting clause 1(2) from the bill because<br />

of the perceived clash with clause 20(1).<br />

In response to these submissions, the Alternative Dispute Resolution Committee of the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society and the Institute of Arbitrators and Mediators Australia and the Australian<br />

Centre for International Commercial Arbitration indicated their support for the passage of the bill in its<br />

present form in the interests of uniformity, with any amendments to be the subject of subsequent<br />

review and discussion. Having considered the committee’s report and these submissions, the<br />

Attorney-General has proposed that the bill be enacted in its present form to maximise legislative<br />

uniformity.<br />

The committee made a second recommendation that the Attorney-General consider the<br />

suggestions for amendment made by stakeholders during the committee’s examination of the<br />

Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012 in the context of future amendments to the model bill. The Attorney-<br />

General has given an assurance that he will write to his counterparts in other states and territories<br />

advising them of the matters raised in the context of the bill for consideration as part of any future<br />

review of the model bill by the now Standing Council on Law and Justice. The Attorney-General has<br />

also no doubt in his mind that key stakeholders will monitor the operation of the legislation and advise<br />

the council should amendments be considered desirable.<br />

In conclusion, the Attorney-General strongly believes that this bill will deliver for <strong>Queensland</strong> a<br />

commercial arbitration framework that cuts red tape and provides more accessible, cost-effective and<br />

timely processes for the fair and impartial resolution of commercial disputes as an alternative to<br />

litigation. This will ensure real practical advantage for companies and businesses trading locally,<br />

nationally and internationally. It is hoped that wider opportunities will also arise for <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

arbitrators and arbitration facilities, with positive flow-on effects to the local economy. I congratulate<br />

the Attorney-General, the Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, for the effort that he has made to bring this bill before<br />

the House. On his behalf, I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) (Leader of the Opposition) (5.25 pm): I rise to contribute to the<br />

debate on the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. From the outset I advise that the opposition will be<br />

supporting the bill. However, I will raise a couple of issues that I would like the Attorney-General to<br />

comment on during his address in reply. The bill is the reintroduction of the Commercial Arbitration<br />

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The effect of the bill is to repeal the former uniform Commercial Arbitration Act 1990 and to establish<br />

a more up-to-date method for resolving domestic commercial disputes. Providing a cost-effective and<br />

efficient alternative to litigation in Australia is imperative for the business community and that method<br />

must reflect changes in international best practice.<br />

The old act, whilst important and innovative at the time, still reflected the old English arbitration<br />

acts of 1950, 1975 and 1979. In May 2010, the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General agreed to<br />

update the uniform legislation. The model law was introduced by the then Attorney-General and<br />

minister for justice, Paul Lucas, on 15 November 2011, but lapsed when parliament was prorogued. It<br />

largely reflected the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law Model Law on<br />

International Commercial Arbitration. The model law reflects the accepted world standard for<br />

arbitrating commercial disputes. This means that the jurisdictions with which we compete for<br />

international arbitration work do not have different national and international arbitration laws. This is<br />

important in the growing move towards the internationalisation of business and commerce.<br />

I also note that the Commonwealth government passed the International Arbitration<br />

Amendment Act 2010 to increase effectiveness, efficiency and affordability in international<br />

commercial arbitration. The two differences between the 2011 bill and this bill are: the schedule has<br />

been renamed as schedule 1 and, secondly, a new clause 2(5) has been added, which states—<br />

Notes (other than the Model Law note to section 1) ... do not form part of this bill.<br />

Clause 1AC outlines the paramount object of the bill, which is to ‘facilitate the fair and final<br />

resolution of commercial disputes by impartial arbitral tribunals without unnecessary delay or<br />

expense’. So far, all other jurisdictions in Australia except for the Australian Capital Territory have<br />

passed legislation adopting the model law. The passage of this bill will bring <strong>Queensland</strong> into line with<br />

those jurisdictions. The bill makes five important changes to the current regime that applies to<br />

domestic commercial arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong>. Under the current legislation, where parties have<br />

agreed to arbitration and one of the parties institutes legal proceedings, the court has a discretion to<br />

stay the proceedings pending finalisation of the arbitration process. This means that the proceedings<br />

may be continued even though the parties have agreed to arbitration at the discretion of the court.<br />

Under this bill, provided there is a valid arbitration agreement and the subject matter of the<br />

dispute is capable of settlement via arbitration, the court is required to stay proceedings while the<br />

matter is arbitrated. The explanatory notes to the bill raise the issue of the exclusion of the courts<br />

under the heading ‘Consistency with fundamental legislative principles’. However, as the notes point<br />

out—<br />

In nominating arbitration as a dispute resolution method, parties are making a conscious decision to exclude court jurisdiction<br />

and resolve their dispute by alternate means. Parties consent to the use of this legislative framework to avoid litigating their<br />

dispute before the courts, which is more costly and time consuming.<br />

There are protections built into the system because the courts can still oversee the arbitral<br />

process and intervene if the process does not comply with the agreement or with principles of<br />

procedural fairness, relevant public policy and the law. This will avoid the scenario where parties,<br />

having previously agreed to arbitration as a dispute resolution mechanism, seek to disrupt and delay<br />

proceedings by using the courts to avoid the arbitral process altogether. This clause forms part of the<br />

model law and it has been adopted unamended by other jurisdictions that have enacted the bill. It is<br />

important that there be certainty for parties who sign up to an arbitration agreement and this clause<br />

provides that certainty.<br />

As clause 1AC provides, the functions of an arbitral tribunal must be exercised so that, as far<br />

as practicable, the paramount object of the act is achieved. This clause therefore informs the tribunal<br />

in how arbitration matters are to be conducted. Subject to the subclause and to safeguards which<br />

protect the public interest, parties are able to agree about how their commercial dispute is to be<br />

resolved.<br />

While the bill ensures that, while parties have a fair degree of latitude to determine what arbitral<br />

procedure will apply to them, this is limited by being subject to the provisions of this act. This means<br />

that if a situation arises in which the parties’ choice of procedure would result in unnecessary delay<br />

and expense, which would breach the paramount object of the act, the tribunal will be required to<br />

override the parties’ choice to better serve the paramount object of the act.<br />

Tribunals can issue interim measures in order to protect the process and ensure that arbitration<br />

remains an effective method of dispute resolution. The scope of these orders may be very wide and<br />

can include security for costs; discovery of documents; the giving of evidence by affidavit; the<br />

inspection of any property which is or forms part of the subject matter of the dispute; the taking of<br />

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taken from or any observation to be made of or experiment conducted on any property which is or<br />

forms part of the subject matter of the dispute; and dividing, recording and strictly enforcing the time<br />

allocated for a hearing between the parties.<br />

The courts also have similar powers and a party may apply to a tribunal for an interim order<br />

and have that order enforced by the courts. Courts also have the power to issue interim orders such<br />

as Mareva injunctions and Anton Piller orders. Ex parte orders may only be issued by the courts.<br />

Whilst it has long been accepted internationally that confidentiality is an integral feature of<br />

commercial arbitration—and this was thought to be the case under the act as it stands—the decision<br />

of the High Court in Esso v Plowman meant that confidentiality only applied to parties to an arbitration<br />

agreement where it was expressly provided for in the agreement. This bill reverses this presumption<br />

so that extensive confidential obligations apply to the parties to an agreement unless they expressly<br />

provide to the contrary. These provisions are designed to be helpful in protecting the commercial<br />

interests of the parties by the disclosure of commercially sensitive information or from harm to any<br />

party’s commercial representation stemming from public knowledge of the dispute.<br />

Under the current act, judicial review is available on the grounds that the award contained a<br />

manifest error of law or that there had been some procedural unfairness to one or both parties<br />

because of misconduct on the part of the arbitrator or the arbitration or award has been improperly<br />

procured. This bill provides specific grounds upon which an arbitral award may be set aside by a<br />

court. An application must be made within three months from the date of receipt of the award.<br />

An appeal can also be made to a court only if the parties have agreed before the end of the<br />

appeal period—again, three months and with the leave of the court. The court must not grant leave<br />

unless it is satisfied that the decision of the tribunal is obviously wrong, if the question is one of<br />

general public importance or that the decision is at least open to serious doubt. This means that<br />

where parties have agreed to an arbitral agreement the decision of the tribunal will have greater<br />

determinative effect. Hopefully this will eliminate circumstances such as occurred in Cole v Gebauer.<br />

When the last in a long line of decisions had been made in relation to the arbitration in that case,<br />

proceedings had been on foot for some 10 years and 21 days.<br />

Part 8 of the bill provides for greater recognition and enforcement awards than is currently<br />

available under the act. Courts are required to enforce awards except in limited circumstances where<br />

refusal of enforcement is permitted—the grounds for which are set out in the bill. The process for<br />

enforcement of awards is much simpler and more efficient and orders of the tribunal may, by leave of<br />

the court, be enforced in the same way as a court order. Once such leave has been granted,<br />

judgement may be entered into the terms of the order.<br />

Consultation on the bill has been conducted with a number professional organisations including<br />

the Australian Centre for International Commercial Arbitration, the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society, the Bar<br />

Association of <strong>Queensland</strong>, the Institute of Arbitrators and Mediators, the heads of jurisdiction and the<br />

Chartered Institute of Arbitrators. Again, as a member of this House, I am indebted to them for their<br />

thoughtful observations that they have submitted to the committee. They have been of enormous<br />

assistance yet again, and I particularly would like to mention the Law Society and Bar Association<br />

who are so often called on to make submissions on legislation and without exception make thoughtful<br />

and considered suggestions on the proposed bills, often in very tight time frames.<br />

The Bar Association and the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators have made some suggestions on<br />

the proposed amendments to the bill. However, both have recognised the importance of uniform<br />

legislation and the fact that amendments to the bill would bring it out of kilter with other jurisdictions. It<br />

has been suggested that perhaps dialogue could be commenced with the Attorneys-General and the<br />

other jurisdictions to perhaps give consideration to some of the suggestions they have made. I ask<br />

the Attorney-General, through the Deputy Premier, whether he would be prepared to undertake to<br />

consider whether the issues that are of concern to the Bar Association and the Chartered Institute of<br />

Arbitrators should be raised at an interjurisdictional level when the next review of the act is being<br />

undertaken.<br />

This is an important piece of legislation. A number of previous Attorneys-General have played a<br />

very large part in the development of this legislation. I would like to echo the words of the former<br />

Attorney-General when he introduced the bill and said—<br />

The updated commercial arbitration framework contained in this bill will ensure <strong>Queensland</strong> is in keeping with national and<br />

international standards for facilitating fair and final resolution of commercial disputes in a timely and cost effective manner.<br />

It will promote <strong>Queensland</strong> as a jurisdiction in which parties conducting business both in Australia and in Asia Pacific region<br />

can access commercial arbitration services which accord with international norms.<br />

I commend the bill to the House.


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Mr CHOAT (Ipswich West—LNP) (5.38 pm): I rise to speak on the Commercial Arbitration Bill<br />

2012. It gives me much pleasure to contribute to this debate as a member of the Legal Affairs and<br />

Community Safety Committee. The bill concerns arbitration which is a dispute resolution process<br />

wherein parties refer a commercial dispute to an arbitrator for fair determination. Awards which are<br />

the result of arbitration are enforceable in a manner like that of any court judgement. Arbitration and<br />

its processes have a significant impact on commerce and industry as it is commonly used by the<br />

banking, insurance and finance sectors as well as in construction, manufacturing and parts of the<br />

logistic industries, all of which contribute significantly to the <strong>Queensland</strong> economy and the great<br />

opportunities this state offers.<br />

Arbitration is a productive and outcomes-driven process which enables parties to achieve<br />

results in the most efficient, effective and economic way avoiding costly and time-consuming litigation<br />

proceedings. The bill applies to domestic commercial arbitration only and specifically recognises that<br />

the Commonwealth act administers any international commercial arbitrations. It prescribes the form<br />

and scope of agreements established for the purposes of arbitration and provides also for the<br />

selection and appointment and management of arbitrators and in setting out their powers.<br />

The bill provides for certain procedural provisions including applying confidentiality regimes to<br />

parties and consensual opt-out provisions. It very clearly addresses the making of awards and<br />

termination of proceedings including dealing with costs and settlements. Important measures include<br />

the outlining of preconditions for court applications to have an award set aside or processes<br />

associated with appeals on a point of law. The bill recognises interstate awards as binding and allows<br />

applications to the courts for enforcement.<br />

New model commercial arbitration legislation was agreed by the Australian Standing<br />

Committee of Attorneys-General and settled in July 2011 to address issues that arbitrations had<br />

become too litigious, with proceedings resembling more and more of those of a court. There is also a<br />

compelling need to modernise and update the uniform commercial arbitration acts to be certain that<br />

arbitration provides an efficient and economical alternative to litigation consistent with international<br />

best practice.<br />

All Australian states and territories other than <strong>Queensland</strong> and the ACT have passed legislation<br />

in line with the model bill. The model bill is based on the UN Commission on International Trade<br />

Law’s Model Law on International Commercial Arbitration. The bill is also consistent with the<br />

Commonwealth International Arbitration Act 1974 and supplemented by provisions relevant to the<br />

domestic commercial arbitration setting. This bill rectifies this situation so that <strong>Queensland</strong> also<br />

provides an environment where modern dispute resolution processes are available to enterprise and<br />

industry, along with relevant associations and individuals.<br />

I congratulate the Attorney-General and his department for taking this important bill forward,<br />

which will ensure that <strong>Queensland</strong> industry and commerce sectors have access to a modern and<br />

world-class system for commercial arbitration. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr BERRY (Ipswich—LNP) (5.42 pm): I rise to speak in support of the Commercial Arbitration<br />

Bill 2012. My unqualified support is made on two bases. Firstly, there have been five submitters, all of<br />

whom support this bill. Secondly, the bill is part of a legislative process, where the Standing<br />

Committee of Attorneys-General agreed to introduce uniform arbitration laws by a 2009 decision.<br />

Those who are actively involved in arbitration in Australia are able to recount the long and tedious<br />

journey to have a uniform law apply in Australia.<br />

Before the now proposed uniformity law, each state and territory enacted its own legislation.<br />

Just on that point, it is probably an overstatement to say that it is a uniform law but effectively it is a<br />

law that mirrors a plan. ‘Uniform’ is not quite the right word, but it is about as close as we will get for<br />

the moment. Taking up the baton, New South Wales enacted its uniform legislation in 2010. So we<br />

have a position where a decision was made in 2009, New South Wales followed suit reasonably<br />

expeditiously in 2010, but here we are debating this bill in 2013. It is astounding for the previous<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Labor government not to have made the Commercial Arbitration Bill law before it lost<br />

government in March 2011 by the overwhelming defeat of the Liberal National Party.<br />

It is not surprising for arbitrators, businesses and lawyers to have felt a sense of frustration in<br />

waiting for the uniform model law arbitration laws to be passed. My government fully recognises and<br />

understands the language and culture of business and, with that understanding, moves to legislate<br />

these important laws within its first year in government, recognising that business is a large complex<br />

cog in a complex system of cogs requiring the oil of arbitration to keep the cogs turning by ensuring<br />

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the importance of this law. It is extremely important to business. It is extremely important for the<br />

reason that, if we do not keep up with the latest trends globally and otherwise, then business will do<br />

business elsewhere. They will arbitrate elsewhere, not in this state.<br />

Commercial arbitrations have been a part of <strong>Queensland</strong>’s business and legal landscape since<br />

1990. Furthermore, <strong>Queensland</strong> business has embraced arbitration with gusto, and I also say that<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> lawyers have responded accordingly. <strong>Queensland</strong> is a place where mediation and<br />

arbitration is in its DNA. We settle a lot of disputes. Courts are not used as in other states, and I do<br />

not single out New South Wales particularly, but we have a culture of arbitration and mediation.<br />

Commerce is now more global. Participants in arbitrations still require the basis of the success of the<br />

arbitration process and all those things that come with it, such as—and I state the obvious, but I do so<br />

for the purposes of this speech—privacy, which is still afforded to participants; expeditious<br />

determination of the disputation; an ability to control the costs and the arbitration process; an arbiter<br />

with a certain field of expertise, and the level of representation is able to be chosen by the participants<br />

to ensure that it is expeditious, that there is an air of privacy and that there is that expertise coming<br />

through which makes the process simpler.<br />

Commercial arbitrations have other matters to consider which also have become increasingly<br />

important, and this is highlighted in this bill and really makes <strong>Queensland</strong> one of the hubs of<br />

commerce in Asia. We cannot necessarily assume these days that English is the primary language<br />

used in arbitration. This bill refers to the language of choice being agreed upon in an arbitration<br />

agreement. It may be that English is not the appropriate language to use. This bill will assist in that<br />

process.<br />

The settlement where the arbitration is to take place is also a relevant matter. <strong>Queensland</strong> is a<br />

global player in the world of commerce. Just the number of contracts we have between China,<br />

Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia suggest that we need to take—<br />

Mr Rickuss: We’re almost displacing London, I feel.<br />

Mr BERRY: Indeed. I take that interjection. <strong>Queensland</strong> is the hub of South-East Asia. I just<br />

make a brief excursion to say that the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society had LawAsia for five or six or seven<br />

years, as I understand. As a result, they look to us as to what we do here, as to how we manage<br />

business and what processes and what legislation we have in place. We have a very good reputation<br />

in this state as being a leader, particularly in arbitration. It would have been a more positive<br />

experience for this legislation to have followed on the heels of 2009 instead of having to wait until<br />

2013. But having said that, we are here today in the first year of the Newman government—<br />

Mr Rickuss: Conciliatory type government.<br />

Mr BERRY: Indeed—well, more than conciliatory; it is expeditious, recognising the important<br />

place that business and commerce has in this state. By being in a position of enacting this legislation<br />

in our first year again just emphasises the place that commerce and business stands with this LNP<br />

government. The commercial arbitration legislative scheme has come from a parochial law position to<br />

one that now transcends the globe.<br />

I just make a brief excursion to quote Chief Justice Spigelman, whose words in 2009 to the<br />

legal profession of New South Wales amplified the frustrations of business when he described the<br />

then commercial arbitration system as being ‘now hopelessly out of date and requiring a complete<br />

rewrite’.<br />

He also said that any delay in enacting the UNCITRAL model law on international commercial<br />

arbitration would be embarrassing. So why did we wait until 2013? Responsibility for this<br />

embarrassment falls squarely at the feet of the previous government, I would respectfully submit.<br />

This legislation really is fiscally neutral. It only required the previous government to make and<br />

pass this legislation but business waited. Now, fortunately, we are at that portal where now we move<br />

on to the Asia position. We are one of the leaders in the legal sphere in Asia.<br />

The enactment of the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012 will now bring <strong>Queensland</strong> industry and<br />

business into commerce of the 21st century, all thanks to a vibrant, purposeful and directional<br />

government which has the plan. I comment on the bill to the extent that there are comments made by<br />

the Bar Association of <strong>Queensland</strong>, which effectively, as I think I can best describe it, had the<br />

suggestion of a really procedural nature—relocating sections and so forth. There is not much point in<br />

my commenting more on that. It has already been referred to in that if there is a further review then<br />

those matters can be looked at.


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Mr Khory McCormick, writing in his capacity as Chairman of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society<br />

Alternative Dispute Resolution Committee, spokesperson for the Institute of Arbitrators and Mediators<br />

Australia—he is the chairman of the <strong>Queensland</strong> chapter—and Vice President of the Australian<br />

Centre for International Commercial Arbitration, takes a pragmatic approach in pressing for the<br />

passing of this legislation with any consequential amendments to be made as and when necessary<br />

after review.<br />

Mr Rickuss: You would have great experience in arbitration.<br />

Mr BERRY: I say to the member for Lockyer that Mr Khory McCormick is really one of the<br />

international lawyers involved in arbitration. His words carry with not only <strong>Queensland</strong> lawyers but<br />

also Australian lawyers a good deal of weight. When he says that this bill must pass, regardless of<br />

what the Bar Association says—those things can be fixed up—then we certainly take some heed.<br />

The Chartered Institute of Arbitrators Australia raises two issues in its submissions. First, does<br />

section 2 of the International Arbitration Amendment Act 2010 (Commonwealth) apply to arbitration<br />

agreements entered into before 6 July 2010? Keep in mind that this was based on the<br />

Commonwealth act and not so much our act. Of course, some time has transpired between the<br />

enacting of the Commonwealth arbitration legislation and the legislation we have today. Effectively,<br />

this legislation is catch-up legislation. It is allowing business in <strong>Queensland</strong> to be competitive in the<br />

arbitration process and to simply move on with commerce. Secondly, the issue of arbitration forum<br />

was of concern. However, section 20(1) of the bill clearly establishes that arbitration participants are<br />

free to agree on the place of arbitration or, failing agreement, that it will be determined by the tribunal.<br />

Clearly, the time for the passage of this bill into law is well and truly overdue. One can only wonder<br />

why the bill was not passed in 2011 or 2012. But we are in 2013—<br />

Mr Rickuss: Procrastination.<br />

Mr BERRY: Member for Lockyer, we are here now to make this law. I feel proud to be part of a<br />

government that is making decisions and getting on with the plan. Again, it has been left to an<br />

enthusiastic, vibrant, goal oriented government to get to the forwards and kick another goal. I<br />

commend this bill to the House.<br />

Miss BARTON (Broadwater—LNP) (5.53 pm): I must say that I am a little anxious about<br />

following the member for Ipswich. I certainly will not be as impassioned or vibrant, but I am certainly<br />

very proud and pleased that I am able to rise and make a contribution to the Commercial Arbitration<br />

Bill.<br />

Dr Flegg interjected.<br />

Miss BARTON: Yes, member for Moggill. I do think the member for Ipswich was thinking about<br />

his old career and perhaps charging in six-minute increments. My experience of law school is that it is<br />

something that is ingrained in Laws 101.<br />

Mr Hart interjected.<br />

Miss BARTON: I take the interjection from the member for Burleigh: the government has gone<br />

broke!<br />

I do take great pleasure in rising to speak on the Commercial Arbitration Bill. I think it is<br />

important that we acknowledge that the committee secretariat of the Legal Affairs and Community<br />

Safety Committee have again worked very hard on the consideration of this bill. I think we are, if not<br />

the busiest committee in this parliament—it is certainly a committee that I enjoy working with, and the<br />

secretariat do a fantastic job of making sure we meet all of our time lines and that we present wellresearched<br />

and—<br />

Mr Dillaway interjected.<br />

Miss BARTON: Yes, member for Bulimba. There are quality people on the committee as well,<br />

but the secretariat do a fantastic job. As the member for Bulimba said, we do have fantastic members<br />

on this committee. I would also like to acknowledge my colleagues.<br />

I think it is important to note that the opposition leader has indicated that the opposition will be<br />

supporting this bill. I think that is a fantastic thing for business in <strong>Queensland</strong> and a fantastic thing for<br />

commercial arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong>. At the end of the day, this bill is seeking to bring <strong>Queensland</strong> in<br />

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of the world is doing. I think it is important to note that this is about having uniformity and consistency<br />

across Australia. I do think it is important to note that, with the exception of the ACT, all of our state<br />

and territory colleagues have introduced or passed legislation that is similar to this. Of course, this bill<br />

is modelled on that which was agreed to by the former Standing Committee of Attorneys-General.<br />

As I said, this is a bill which will ensure uniformity and consistency in commercial arbitration<br />

across Australia. I think that is a good thing. The reality is that, as the business world continues to<br />

grow in Australia, we see businesses that are operating in not just one state but across a range of<br />

states. I think for us to be able to provide certainty for those businesses, that they will be able to<br />

arbitrate any commercial disputes, is a good thing. It also will see uniformity with some of our<br />

international partners.<br />

Of course, as some of my colleagues have said, this particular bill is adopting the model bill<br />

that has been outlined by the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law. I do think that<br />

is a good thing because, whilst we do have businesses that work right across Australia, we also have<br />

some fantastic businesses based in <strong>Queensland</strong> that work right across the world. I think it is a good<br />

thing that we are looking to see uniformity and consistency for all of these businesses.<br />

I do note that this bill seeks to in some regard restrict some of the freedoms businesses have in<br />

terms of litigation options that are available to them, but my observation would be that we are<br />

becoming somewhat of a litigious society and that is not necessarily a good thing. If we can<br />

encourage people to sit down and talk about the issues they are facing and try to work something out,<br />

perhaps over a cup of tea, that is not necessarily a bad thing. I would certainly encourage all<br />

commercial entities to look at arbitrating disputes before they consider litigation. Whilst we are<br />

restricting some of their rights and freedoms, we are not completely abolishing them and we are<br />

providing avenues for them. If arbitration is not working and it is not proving to be the right path for<br />

them, there will be options available to them. I think that is also a very important thing.<br />

Some of the other outcomes we will see from this particular bill, in addition to the uniformity and<br />

consistency that I have mentioned, are more cost-effective, more transparent and more timely<br />

processes for business. I think that is a great thing. One of the things that businesses across<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> and across Australia are facing is increased red tape. One of the things this government<br />

is focused on is making it a lot easier to do business. I think that is one of the good things we can take<br />

out of this particular piece of legislation.<br />

I am sure there are many businesses right across <strong>Queensland</strong> that will be very excited to know<br />

that one of the things this bill will be achieving is reduced red tape. It is not only going to be good for<br />

business in terms of reduced red tape and reduced ‘bureaucracy’; it is also going to be good for our<br />

courts. It will certainly have a positive effect on the judicial system, which is of course, as we know,<br />

already incredibly busy, particularly with people like the member for Ipswich charging in six-minute<br />

increments. This will be a very good thing for the court system because it means that fewer people<br />

will be litigating matters.<br />

At the end of the day, if people are taking commercial disputes to courts that is not a good<br />

thing. I appreciate that there are some people who are simply not able to arbitrate matters, and I<br />

certainly welcome the fact that it is open to those parties to take their matters to court if that is what<br />

they need to do, but certainly I think one of the great things we are able to do is encourage people to<br />

sit down, talk about their disputes and realise what is the best outcome for both parties without getting<br />

too many people involved. I think that is an incredibly positive outcome of this piece of legislation.<br />

I said that my contribution would be brief and I do not know that this is necessarily my definition<br />

of brief; I think it is about medium. I think that I am able to charge for the third six-minute increment or<br />

part thereof, if memory serves me from my time at Bond law school. So I will leave—<br />

A government member interjected.<br />

Miss BARTON: And of course my time working for Senator the Hon. George Brandis has<br />

ingrained in me a love of the six-minute increment when it comes to charging people for services<br />

rendered.<br />

Mr Costigan: He’s a good mentor.


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Miss BARTON: He is indeed. I am sure the member for Whitsunday also appreciates the<br />

mentoring skills that he offers him. I could spend a long time talking about the great skills of Senator<br />

George Brandis, but I am not sure that the member for Ipswich would appreciate that.<br />

I will, of course, remind people that this is such an incredibly important bill. This is one that<br />

does have bipartisan support. So I would urge all of my colleagues to support it as we work to help<br />

businesses right across <strong>Queensland</strong> and Australia provide uniformity and consistency as they are<br />

looking to arbitrate their disputes. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr DILLAWAY (Bulimba—LNP) (6.00 pm): It is difficult to follow such great colleagues and<br />

esteemed colleagues as the members for Ipswich, Ipswich West and Broadwater. I rise this afternoon<br />

to speak in support of the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. I congratulate the Attorney-General and<br />

Minister for Justice on this bill’s introduction to the House and acknowledge the work of my<br />

colleagues the members of the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee and the research<br />

team in their examination of the bill. The primary purpose of the bill is to bring <strong>Queensland</strong>’s<br />

commercial arbitration laws up to date and to modernise the process. It replaces the Commercial<br />

Arbitration Act 1990 and provides for the conduct of commercial arbitration in the great state of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Commercial arbitration is a formal dispute resolution process where two or more parties refer a<br />

dispute to an independent and impartial third person known as the arbitrator for determination. The<br />

result takes the form of an award and is equivalent to a court judgement. It provides a more costeffective<br />

and efficient process to settle commercial disputes. It acts as an alternative to lengthy and<br />

expensive court proceedings by providing a third independent and impartial party to act as the<br />

arbitrator.<br />

We all know how in the past lawyers have been the true winners—and often the only winners—<br />

when it comes to lengthy court proceedings.<br />

Miss Barton: Six-minute increments.<br />

Mr DILLAWAY: I take that interjection and the earlier interjection from the member for Ipswich<br />

when he said it depends on how much you are actually charging. Of course, I cast no aspersions on<br />

my esteemed colleagues in this House and some of my friends who are lawyers. But let us be frank:<br />

we all have a lawyer joke or two in our kit-bag and we do not mind sharing it when we stand around<br />

the barbecue or the water cooler. But commercial arbitration is a great means and is used in resolving<br />

commercial disputes—<br />

Mr Langbroek: Tell us one!<br />

Mr DILLAWAY: I will not take that interjection. I do not think it would be classed as<br />

parliamentary language, but I thank the Minister for Education. Maybe he would like to share one if he<br />

chooses to join this debate.<br />

Commercial arbitration is used in resolving commercial disputes and is commonly used in the<br />

insurance, construction, engineering, oil, gas and shipping industries and also by our beloved banking<br />

and financial services. This bill comes about as a result of the decision made by the former Standing<br />

Council of Attorneys-General in 2011 who addressed the need for commercial arbitration reform as<br />

the process had become too resemblant of court proceedings and in effect was no longer a means to<br />

come to a cost-effective outcome.<br />

A model bill was agreed on that would modernise the system. The model bill put forward by the<br />

Standing Council of Attorneys-General adopts the United Nations Commission on International Trade<br />

Law Model Law on International Commercial Arbitration with supplemental domestic provisions for<br />

local commercial arbitration. This bill is a product of <strong>Queensland</strong>’s commitment to reform its domestic<br />

arbitration laws in line with that agreement and of its commitment to an intergovernmental agreement<br />

providing national consistency. It is these types of intergovernmental agreements that have a benefit.<br />

I do not believe, however, that the federal Labor government’s approach to many other matters that<br />

diminish the state’s powers is necessarily required.<br />

This decision by the former Standing Council of Attorneys-General was made to address the<br />

concerns that over the years commercial arbitration had become too ineffective, defeating its<br />

purpose. This bill delivers on the need to restore independence to the process. This bill will govern<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s domestic commercial arbitrations in a manner that is consistent with the national model<br />

bill agreed to by the former Standing Council of Attorneys-General in 2011. This bill will harmonise


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<strong>Queensland</strong>’s domestic commercial arbitration regime with the Commonwealth International<br />

Arbitration Act 1974. This bill will also provide more accessible, cost-effective and timely processes<br />

for the fair and impartial resolution of commercial disputes through arbitration and will ensure<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s adherence to world standards in commercial dispute resolution.<br />

The achievements of this bill will include promotion of greater autonomy and participation of<br />

parties, finality of awards, protection of confidentiality and access to alternative methods of dispute<br />

resolution. Parties will be given a greater say in how proceedings are structured.<br />

In the absence of agreement, the arbitrator will be defaulted with the decision about<br />

procedures. It gives the arbitral tribunal new powers to order interim measures in allowing an<br />

arbitrator to act as a mediator, conciliator or other non-arbitral intermediary. It is fair, it is flexible and it<br />

is cost-effective. The integrity of the process will be preserved with the concerns about an arbitrator’s<br />

impartiality, independence or qualifications forming a basis for a challenge to his or her appointment.<br />

This can be resolved by agreement of involved parties or as a matter of last resort in default by the<br />

court.<br />

This bill directly relates to domestic commercial arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong>. This legislation has<br />

been passed in all other Australian jurisdictions including New South Wales, South Australia, Victoria,<br />

Tasmania—have I missed any—and WA, with the exception of the Australian Capital Territory and<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>. The delay in the passage of the bill was a result of the March election last year, which<br />

saw the Newman government come into power. However, before it lapsed, the former committee<br />

reported strong stakeholder support for the passage of this bill. The previous submissions that were<br />

made have been considered in great detail by the current committee in its examination and tabled<br />

report.<br />

As the Australian Centre for International Commercial Arbitration raised in its most recent<br />

submission, previous submissions that the Australian Centre for International Commercial Arbitration<br />

made and matters raised have been taken into consideration in the present draft bill. Once again, the<br />

committee found considerable stakeholder support for this bill in refreshing the commercial arbitration<br />

process.<br />

In its submission, the Bar Association of <strong>Queensland</strong> raised the important issue of uniformity<br />

across Australian states when dealing with commercial arbitration, stating that an unsatisfactory state<br />

of affairs will ensue if disparate legislation exists across the states, and it highlighted the need for this<br />

bill to be a matter of urgency.<br />

One of the policy objectives of this bill is to maintain a high level of consistency between<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration regime and similar legislation already adopted in other<br />

Australian jurisdictions and to harmonise <strong>Queensland</strong>’s domestic commercial arbitration regime with<br />

the Commonwealth International Arbitration Act 1974.<br />

An important component of this bill is that it protects the finality of awards made by recognising<br />

them as binding and providing for applications to court for enforcement of such awards. With the<br />

possibility of commercial disputes arising between interstate parties, this is fundamental to ensure<br />

awards are recognised under all Australian jurisdictions. As my esteemed colleague the member for<br />

Broadwater indicated, many businesses in <strong>Queensland</strong> and across Australia now actually operate<br />

across borders. Of course, one of our key objectives as a government is to ensure that those larger<br />

organisations have an opportunity to establish their businesses here in <strong>Queensland</strong>, because we are<br />

open for business.<br />

I want to highlight a few of the other key aspects of the bill. The bill also defines the form and<br />

scope of the arbitration agreements. The bill also provides for the selection, appointment and<br />

challenge of the arbitrators. The bill also sets out an arbitrator’s powers. The bill also contains<br />

procedural provisions. The bill also applies a confidentiality regime to the parties and the arbitral<br />

tribunal alike but contains a consensual opt-out provision. I also note that the bill addresses the<br />

making of awards and termination of proceedings, including costs and settlement. Finally, I also note<br />

that the bill outlines preconditions for applications to a court to have an award set aside or to appeal<br />

on a question of law.<br />

In conclusion, I stand in great support for this bill and understand the urgency with which it<br />

needs to be passed to align <strong>Queensland</strong> with other Australian jurisdictions. It delivers on the need to<br />

modernise <strong>Queensland</strong>’s domestic arbitration laws so that we are not left in the dark but rather<br />

encourages domestic dispute resolution as an alternative to court proceedings. It also ensures that


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<strong>Queensland</strong>’s legislation reflects international best practice and supports arbitration as an efficient,<br />

cost-effective alternative to litigation. I congratulate the Attorney-General once again for acting on<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s commitment to national consistency where it is appropriate and look forward to seeing<br />

the positive flow-on effect it will have on industry and the <strong>Queensland</strong> economy, because industry<br />

needs to get on with what it does well and, unless you are a law firm, that is building for the future,<br />

mining our rich resources and creating wealth—not to be tied up in the courts.<br />

Mrs Frecklington: There are plenty of lawyers creating wealth.<br />

Mr DILLAWAY: I take that interjection. There are a lot of lawyers still creating wealth.<br />

Mr Johnson: All of them!<br />

Mr DILLAWAY: All of them, and I take that interjection from the member for Gregory. Of<br />

course, this bill enables our state to build on the four pillars of the economy that we indicated during<br />

our election campaign and that ministers are working very hard with to ensure that this is a great state<br />

with great opportunities. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr WATTS (Toowoomba North—LNP) (6.12 pm): I rise to join the debate to support the<br />

Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. The main objective of the bill, put simply, is to allow business to<br />

operate and get on with what it does best. Unfortunately, <strong>Queensland</strong> finds itself in a situation where<br />

we are not leading the pack in terms of the other states in that this harmonisation bill has already<br />

been passed in many other jurisdictions, as has been previously mentioned. It is unusual for<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> to be behind the pack and something that the Newman government would very much like<br />

to change. This bill, as I said, put simply, should make business easier, but let me go over the<br />

objectives of the bill.<br />

The bill will govern <strong>Queensland</strong> domestic commercial arbitrations in a manner consistent with<br />

the national model bill agreed to by the former Standing Committee of Attorneys-General. When it<br />

was preparing that model bill, that was done in reference to the United Nations Commission on<br />

International Trade Law. So the bill is not only applicable for us in <strong>Queensland</strong> but also needed to<br />

ensure that business can be done effectively across state borders and effectively across international<br />

borders, and the arbitration model and rules will still stand.<br />

The bill replaces the current Commercial Arbitration Act 1990 in <strong>Queensland</strong>. As I have said,<br />

principally it is to adopt the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law with some<br />

supplemental domestic provisions for local commercial arbitration in Australia and certainly within<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> and interstate. It is designed to maintain a high level of consistency between<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration regime. Similar legislation, as I said, has been adopted<br />

everywhere except for the ACT, and I am sure that it will be catching up with the rest of Australia<br />

shortly. It will also provide a more accessible, cost-effective and timely process for the fair and<br />

impartial resolution of commercial disputes through arbitration. It will also ensure <strong>Queensland</strong>’s<br />

adherence to world standards in dispute resolution, and that is important. If <strong>Queensland</strong> wants to be<br />

taken seriously on the world stage, it is important that we have world’s best practice in many areas.<br />

Obviously commercial dispute resolution is an area where it is fundamentally important to ensure that<br />

we are certainly at pace with the rest of the world.<br />

Why was the bill necessary? Ultimately, we had got to a situation where commercial arbitration<br />

had become incredibly litigious in <strong>Queensland</strong> and the whole point of arbitration was to try to replace<br />

some of the legalistic and court processes to simplify things for business. It is in the DNA of our side<br />

of politics to want to make things simpler for business to get on with business, but by its very nature<br />

business from time to time will have a dispute. A mechanism that is efficient and effective is<br />

something that is fundamentally important to have and will bring us up to date. The previous<br />

arbitration act is outdated and, as I said, has become quite litigious and therefore it is well and truly<br />

time for it to be updated, and it is with great pleasure that I can take part in updating that.<br />

While talking about joining the debate, I should also mention my role on the committee. The<br />

committee has been a very busy committee which has had a lot of legislation referred to it from the<br />

Attorney-General as we have tried to get law enforcement back on track in <strong>Queensland</strong>. This was one<br />

of many bills that have been referred to the committee. As someone who has been involved in<br />

business all my life, it was good to see a bill that can help business. We have done a lot about law<br />

and order with our anti-hooning legislation and other legislation to ensure that justice is being done in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> and people are being appropriately punished.


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Mrs Frecklington: Red-tape reduction.<br />

Mr WATTS: I take the interjection relating to red-tape reduction. This bill will also reduce red<br />

tape for people in business, and they have to be competitive on a world stage. To be competitive on a<br />

world stage, you need world’s best practice if you get into a dispute with another business. You need<br />

a quick, efficient methodology to deal with that. That is certainly not what <strong>Queensland</strong> had. I certainly<br />

will be supporting the bill but want to talk more about the background as to why the bill was needed<br />

and what exactly is involved.<br />

Arbitration is a formal dispute resolution process in which two or more parties refer their<br />

commercial dispute to an independent third party—the arbiter—for determination. The results of the<br />

arbitration, known as the award, are enforceable in the same manner as any court judgement. From a<br />

business’s point of view, once they have that judgement, it is enforceable and has commercial validity<br />

and they can use the normal judiciary to ensure that it is complied with. Commercial arbitration is<br />

commonly used in many industries and in some industries that are very important to business in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>. The construction industry is one where disputes will often arise and arbiters will be used<br />

to settle those disputes. If we want to get our economy going again, we know that construction will<br />

form one of the four pillars and therefore we do not want construction being held up for a long time<br />

with people arguing and in dispute over the way forward. Having a mechanism to deal with that<br />

effectively is certainly very important for <strong>Queensland</strong> and the construction industry.<br />

Likewise, you cannot have a good construction industry without good engineering. This is an<br />

area that often is in dispute. To reduce the litigious nature of a dispute and to be able to get that done<br />

efficiently I think is also important.<br />

Some really important industries for <strong>Queensland</strong> in the coming 20 or 30 years, starting pretty<br />

much from now, and ones that will certainly be affecting people on the Western Downs in my area are<br />

the gas, oil and resources industries generally. These industries are critically important to us in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> and certainly to businesses in Toowoomba that service a lot of those industries.<br />

Mr Dillaway: What a great city.<br />

Mr WATTS: Toowoomba is a great city. I take that interjection. I love Toowoomba. Where is<br />

Toowoomba? It is at the heart of <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Mrs Frecklington interjected.<br />

Mr WATTS: It borders the Nanango electorate. I take that interjection as well.<br />

Mr Dillaway: The home of Clifford Park.<br />

Mr WATTS: It certainly is the home of Clifford Park. I must make mention of the sports<br />

minister, who currently is in convalescence. I must thank him for his contribution to getting a grass<br />

track back on the racecourse.<br />

Mr Berry: A great minister.<br />

Mr WATTS: A great minister. Certainly, I know the industry at Clifford Park is very excited.<br />

There is another industry where arbitration may be used from time to time. Certainly, the racing<br />

industry is a big industry on the downs. I return to the oil and gas industries. These are industries in<br />

which a lot of businesses are coming in from overseas and setting up offices here in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Miss Barton: Just like you.<br />

Mr WATTS: I will not take that interjection. I should mention that I was born overseas of an<br />

Australian father and an Australian grandmother, I might add. As these businesses come in, I think it<br />

is very important that, when it comes to best practice, they understand that <strong>Queensland</strong> is up to date<br />

with the rest of the world. It is a great state in which to do business. We need to be able to show<br />

those industries as they arrive in <strong>Queensland</strong> that if they get into dispute it is not going to drag on<br />

endlessly and cost a lot of money. If that does not happen, they will simply go to other countries to<br />

carry on their business. If we want to be commercially competitive on an international scale, we need<br />

to make sure that we have best practice legislation. That is exactly what the Commercial Arbitration<br />

Bill 2012 is. It brings us into line with the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law and<br />

how it views this area of legislation.<br />

Mr Berry: And the 21st century.


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Mr WATTS: And the 21st century. As I have said, arbitration is intend to provide parties to<br />

disputes with cost-effective, expedient access to enforceable determinations as an alternative to<br />

lengthy and public court proceedings. I know there are a few lawyers here who will be disappointed to<br />

hear that their colleagues in the industry might not be making as much as they would. I still think the<br />

lawyers will have their place, but <strong>Queensland</strong> would like to make sure that industry can get on with<br />

what it does, which is operating efficiently and effectively. The less they need to get into fights that go<br />

through our judicial system, the better.<br />

The <strong>Queensland</strong> Commercial Arbitration Act 1990, which currently governs the conduct of<br />

domestic commercial arbitrations in <strong>Queensland</strong>, is one of a series of substantially uniform laws<br />

across Australia that are commonly referred to as the uniform commercial arbitration acts, which were<br />

developed under the auspices of the former Standing Committee of Attorneys-General. The new<br />

model commercial arbitration legislation was agreed to by that standing committee and settled in July<br />

2011. Here we are, 2013, and we are still looking to get that legislation enacted in <strong>Queensland</strong>. As a<br />

government, we hope to do much better in the future in making sure that we are leading the pack and<br />

not following it.<br />

There were a couple of criticisms of the previous legislation. As discussed previously, disputes<br />

became too litigious and proceedings were increasingly resembling those of a court. So there was a<br />

need to modernise and update the uniform commercial arbitration acts to ensure that arbitration<br />

provides an efficient and cost-effective alternative to litigation, which is consistent with international<br />

best practice. We have spoken a little bit about international best practice today. If we want<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> to be a place where people can come and do business and be effective and make sure<br />

they are competitive on the world stage, we need to have best practice in all areas, whether that be<br />

infrastructure—something like the Toowoomba range crossing will always help business.<br />

Mr Dillaway: Has Gillard given money for that?<br />

Mr WATTS: I take that interjection. No. Julia Gillard has not given any commitment at all to the<br />

people of <strong>Queensland</strong> with reference to the range crossing. I have an open invitation for her to come<br />

and stay at any of our beautiful motels located along James Street where she, too, can listen to the<br />

6,000 B-doubles that drive through the heart of my city, rumbling through. I look forward very much to<br />

her coming to <strong>Queensland</strong>, bringing her federal election roadshow, arriving in Toowoomba and telling<br />

us that she will fund 80 per cent of the estimated $1.6 billion that the business case has outlined.<br />

A government member interjected.<br />

Mr WATTS: I take that interjection. My friend and colleague Ian Macfarlane will very much be<br />

looking forward to that. As I am talking about being internationally competitive in business, with the<br />

changes to the Commercial Arbitration Act that we are looking to bring forward, infrastructure is<br />

critically important. My friend and colleague Ian Macfarlane has secured funding for that road. I am<br />

sure that not only will those companies that are coming to Toowoomba from overseas to be involved<br />

in the CSG industry be very pleased to know that our commercial arbitration legislation is meeting<br />

world’s best practice but also they will look forward very much to our infrastructure matching that<br />

standard.<br />

Mr Berry: And they can arbitrate here in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Mr WATTS: They certainly can arbitrate here in <strong>Queensland</strong>. At the moment, those decisions<br />

will be able to be enforced across all the borders of Australia, except for the ACT, which I am sure will<br />

fall into line shortly.<br />

Mr Johnson: There are a lot of the businesses in Toowoomba that will welcome this<br />

legislation.<br />

Mr WATTS: There certainly are a lot of businesses in Toowoomba, particularly businesses that<br />

are starting to deal internationally more and more. Wagners in Toowoomba is a company that is<br />

involved in the construction and gas industries. It is very important for them to make sure that, if they<br />

get into dispute with some of these big international players, they have a forum in which they can<br />

arbitrate that dispute effectively. I am sure Wagners and many other businesses in Toowoomba will<br />

not want to be caught up in long and expensive legal wrangling.<br />

Mr Berry: There are some great lawyers in Toowoomba.


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Mr WATTS: There are some great lawyers in Toowoomba. Some of them are good friends. I<br />

take that interjection from the member for Ipswich. I would always put a Toowoomba lawyer in front of<br />

an Ipswich lawyer. But that is a debate for another day.<br />

This bill will apply to all domestic and commercial arbitration. It recognises that the<br />

Commonwealth act will govern the international and commercial arbitrations<br />

A government member interjected.<br />

Mr WATTS: I have a copy of the bill. I thank the member very much for that.<br />

Miss Barton: Have you read it?<br />

Mr WATTS: Yes, I have been through it. Certainly, the committee went through the bill at great<br />

length. I would like to thank the secretariat that supports the committee. It does a great job in ensuring<br />

that the committee members are well briefed and that all the details have been followed. Certainly,<br />

when it comes to fundamental legislative principles we rely on the secretariat of the committee to<br />

make sure that they are followed closely.<br />

After examining the bill and in consideration of the policy objective which, of course, is to make<br />

sure that we are not wasting our time in courts and spending too much money, I certainly support the<br />

bill and I note that many of the submitters to the committee supported the bill. I would like to thank the<br />

Attorney-General and Minister for Justice for bringing <strong>Queensland</strong> up to speed. I hope very much<br />

going forward that I do not have to stand up here and apologise for <strong>Queensland</strong> being one of the last<br />

states that has adopted this kind of legislation in the future. When we need something to be effective<br />

and efficient, <strong>Queensland</strong> should be leading the pack. I look forward very much to the Attorney-<br />

General ensuring that we lead the pack and not follow it. I would like to thank the Attorney-General for<br />

introducing the bill. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Ruthenberg): Order! The House will now break for dinner and,<br />

according to the motion to suspend sessional orders, will resume at 8 pm.<br />

Sitting suspended from 6.30 pm to 8.00 pm.<br />

MINISTERIAL STATEMENT<br />

Crime and Misconduct Commission<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (8.00 pm), by<br />

leave: Colleagues, I want to bring to the attention of the House a serious matter which I have been<br />

following with interest in the last 48 hours with respect to the Crime and Misconduct Commission and<br />

the release of certain documents that ought not to have been released with a classification change. I<br />

spoke about this in the chamber this morning, both in questions without notice on two occasions and<br />

in the debate of committee report No. 89 of the PCMC with respect to the CMC and Ms Kathryn Ellis,<br />

a former employee of the CMC.<br />

I think colleagues should be concerned in relation to the events of the last 48 hours with<br />

respect to the CMC and what has transpired. I think there is a certain level of concern in the<br />

community, particularly with respect to people who may have been mentioned in documents that were<br />

entrusted to the CMC being held in the State Archives. We know through media reports that a number<br />

of documents have been accessible by members of the public for over eight months. Minute by<br />

minute as this drama unfolds it concerns me more greatly as Attorney-General of this state.<br />

I offered the opportunity today for the CMC chair to make a public statement; to come out and<br />

tell the public what in fact has happened, what has gone wrong, who has accessed these documents<br />

and what he wants us to do about it. I requested information from the CMC. I table a letter that I<br />

received in my office from the CMC at 5.30 this afternoon, but I will read the contents into Hansard<br />

because I think it is important for the information of members who are not involved with the PCMC of<br />

this place and who have not been reading the newspaper as this drama has unfolded as the day has<br />

gone on. I think it has come to a point in time tonight where we have to put the record straight for the<br />

sake of my honourable colleagues in this place who ought to know what is going on because the


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information has not been publicly available. Mr Martin, the chairperson of the CMC, wrote a letter to<br />

me on his letterhead dated 7 March—<br />

Dear Attorney-General<br />

It is apparent that the Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC) has been instrumental in the release of information dating<br />

from the time of the Fitzgerald Inquiry that should not have been made public.<br />

The reasons for that are still being examined.<br />

Preliminary advice received indicates that on the present state of the law, the retrieval and security of that information is<br />

problematic.<br />

I understand that there is some hesitation by the government to act in proposing short term corrective legislation limited to the<br />

prevention of the republication of information gained from the Fitzgerald Inquiry without the CMC requesting that legislation.<br />

I make that request. My request is contingent on seeing a copy of the draft legislation proposed.<br />

Yours sincerely<br />

Ross Martin SC<br />

Chairperson<br />

As legislators I find it abhorrent that I would, as Attorney-General, receive a letter suggesting<br />

that anything that the CMC wants this parliament to do or act on for the benefit of the CMC in<br />

assisting to cover up the mistake it made many months ago is contingent on the chairman of the CMC<br />

perusing the government’s legislation. I have responded accordingly to Mr Martin tonight. This letter<br />

was sent off approximately 10 minutes ago—<br />

Dear Mr Martin<br />

I refer to you letter dated 7 March 2013 which was only received at 5:30pm.<br />

I note that examinations are currently underway as to how the CMC allowed the release of information gained from the<br />

Fitzgerald Commission of Inquiry that should not have been made public.<br />

As you would be fully aware, to request a Government to pass legislation within hours of a request is extraordinary and totally<br />

unsatisfactory.<br />

This Government will not pass legislation simply for the sake of covering up the CMC’s inability properly perform its functions.<br />

The people who have accessed these documents, prima facie, have done so lawfully.<br />

The normal, standard and publicly accepted ways of consulting and due process are proposed to be abandoned, and, in<br />

addition, <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Counsel will need to draft legislation in an unrealistically short time frame. This is a recipe for bad public<br />

policy and bad legislation.<br />

Any responsible Government would only accede to such an extraordinary request with caution and only after a full case was<br />

presented for such a course of action.<br />

In this case your short and cursory letter, with a caveat at the end, is totally unsatisfactory.<br />

Despite requesting this extraordinary short turnaround time for legislation, it appears on the face of it that the CMC has known<br />

about these issues for months.<br />

You have requested corrective legislation limited to the prevention of republication of information gained from the Fitzgerald<br />

Inquiry.<br />

However, your letter is profoundly deficient in that it contains no detail for the type of corrective legislation you desire.<br />

In short, the Government has been placed by the negligence of the CMC and by an extraordinary request made at the very last<br />

moment, in an unsatisfactory situation. This also applies to the Legislative Assembly. Neither the Government nor the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> can be expected to accede to requests of such a nature other than in extraordinary circumstances.<br />

The Government will use its best endeavours despite this totally unsatisfactory state of affairs to ensure that the public interest<br />

is protected, but I place on record my concern and grave disappointment the way in which the CMC has conducted itself.<br />

The Government will reluctantly attempt to assist the CMC with corrective legislation. However, prior to any such corrective<br />

legislation, I require more particulars of the type of corrective legislation required and the reason for it. I also require additional<br />

information with respect to whether the CMC has pursued other options to rectify the situation, such as a court injunction.<br />

I require your response by 10pm.<br />

Yours sincerely<br />

Jarrod Bleijie MP<br />

Attorney-General and Minister for Justice


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I table a copy of both letters.<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, from the Chair of the Crime and Misconduct Commission, Mr Ross Martin, to the<br />

Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, regarding the release of documents in relation to the Fitzgerald<br />

Inquiry that should not have been made public [2211].<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, from the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, to the chair<br />

of the Crime and Misconduct Commission, Mr Ross Martin, regarding the release of documents in relation to the Fitzgerald<br />

inquiry that should not have been made public [2212].<br />

As I have indicated in the letter, the government will reluctantly try to assist, but to do so in<br />

such extraordinary circumstances, with extraordinary people working behind the scenes, we have to<br />

be convinced, and I am not convinced by the letter that the CMC chair wrote and sent at 5.30 this<br />

afternoon. The CMC chair allowed a full day to go by. He could have gone out and made public<br />

statements as to why this legislation was required. The government and I are certainly of the view that<br />

if there are issues of protection of those in the community that have been named in these documents<br />

lawfully accessed by members of the public or journalists, if there are dangers in relation to their<br />

safety and their wellbeing, then we ought to know before this House is put into the predicament of<br />

passing such rushed legislation.<br />

Honourable colleagues, I bring these matters to your attention because of the serious nature of<br />

the request and, as I indicated this morning, the continual battle that we have with the secretive<br />

nature of the crime-fighting body—more particularly, the PCMC and the CMC. We must address<br />

these issues. Colleagues, this is the start of the process tonight. We may be in for a late night as we<br />

await a response from the CMC chair. I will update the House after 10 pm this evening if I have<br />

received the required response and then government will be in a position to ascertain whether we<br />

proceed with corrective legislation that is in the best interests of those named or not.<br />

COMMERCIAL ARBITRATION BILL<br />

Second Reading<br />

Resumed from p. 546, on motion of Mr Bleijie—<br />

That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON (Nanango—LNP) (8.09 pm): I rise to support the Commercial Arbitration<br />

Bill 2012, which seeks to update <strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration law and align it with other<br />

Australian jurisdictions. I thank our Attorney-General, who has just spoken so eloquently in the House<br />

on very serious issues that are before the House this evening, for bringing this legislation before the<br />

House today. Along with all the other Newman legislation that we have brought before this House,<br />

this bill goes a long way to reduce red tape and regulation for business operators within this great<br />

state of <strong>Queensland</strong>. I take this opportunity to mention that the Office of Best Practice Regulation has<br />

released its report on the reduction of red tape and regulation within the state of <strong>Queensland</strong>. That<br />

report card was released today.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Berry): Order! One moment, member for Nanango. The amount of<br />

audible noise involved in conversations makes it a little difficult to hear. If members could give due<br />

respect to the member speaking, I would very much appreciate it.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker, for your protection.<br />

Mr Deputy Speaker, you are a former solicitor, as I am, and I know that you, too, understand the<br />

importance of the option of arbitration in the commercial sector. However, over recent years there has<br />

been criticism by all those involved that the system has become too litigious and out of date. Whilst I<br />

would never criticise the legal system, in this case the options of having arbitration, mediation or<br />

conciliation—ideas outside of the doors of court—certainly provide a wonderful opportunity for all of<br />

our good businesspeople to try to save time and money and cut down on onerous red tape. This bill<br />

will benefit <strong>Queensland</strong> businesses by modernising and updating <strong>Queensland</strong> commercial arbitration<br />

law, therefore helping us to adopt international best practice and strengthening the attraction of<br />

arbitration as an alternative to lengthy and costly court processes. All states except <strong>Queensland</strong> and<br />

the ACT have now passed this legislation and I believe it is time that <strong>Queensland</strong> got on board so that<br />

businesses across Australia know what they are doing when it comes to their business practices.<br />

This model bill is based on the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law Model<br />

Law on International Commercial Arbitration. Importantly, as we come in line with other states, the<br />

arbitration process will become more appealing to companies as a national uniform law will most<br />

likely result in more efficient processes. I wish to talk on that point. I ask members to imagine a large-


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scale organisation of a commercial nature that works across borders such as a trucking business.<br />

That company may have trucks that travel from the Northern Territory and through this wonderful<br />

great state—<br />

A government member: Beautiful country.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: Yes, the beautiful country of <strong>Queensland</strong>. Its trucks may travel through<br />

areas such as the electorate of the member for Gregory and then through Callide, the country of the<br />

Deputy Premier. The trucks may then travel down through the amazing part of <strong>Queensland</strong> that is the<br />

wonderful South Burnett and through beautiful Somerset, which is full of immense water plains. The<br />

same trucking company may collect a few things and then keep on trucking through Logan. Its trucks<br />

would head down to the wonderful areas of the Gold Coast that are represented by the members who<br />

sit behind me, such as my lovely parliamentary colleague the member for Broadwater. The trucks<br />

would cross the border into New South Wales and head down through Sydney to Melbourne.<br />

Obviously such a company deals with organisations throughout the different states. What if a dispute<br />

arises? What should they do? In this area, the laws across the states need to be the same. Such a<br />

national company would be able to go into an arbitration situation in the state of <strong>Queensland</strong> just as it<br />

would should it be working out of its offices in Sydney. It would then be able to use this arbitration<br />

system, rather than tying up the court system that you, Mr Deputy Speaker, and I well know—<br />

Mr Johnson: That all you lawyers make a fortune out of.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: I will not take that interjection from the member for Gregory, because<br />

that is another opportunity for businesses in <strong>Queensland</strong>—<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Member for Nanango, I want to take a moment. I will not warn<br />

the member for Gregory for talking in terms of lawyers. I want kinder words.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: Mr Deputy Speaker, I do thank you for your protection, particularly in<br />

relation to the member for Gregory.<br />

Mr Johnson: I’m a lawyer, too; I’m a bush lawyer.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: Let me talk about bush lawyers for a moment.<br />

A government member: There is one in front of you.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: There is one in front of me and we also have the member for Callide.<br />

At times he decides he is just like us, but he always calls himself a bush lawyer as well. As all good<br />

lawyers such as yourself, Mr Deputy Speaker, the Attorney-General and I know—<br />

Mr Bleijie: I’m retired.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: So am I. We are ex-lawyers. However, this legislation provides<br />

opportunities for lawyers in the form of an alternative business: we can become arbitrators. To get<br />

back onto the bill, in <strong>Queensland</strong>’s current resource boom climate, this legislation is particularly<br />

important as commercial arbitration is most commonly used to resolve disputes in the oil, gas,<br />

engineering, construction, shipping and finance industries.<br />

Mr Dillaway: They are all growth industries.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: I will take the interjection from the honourable member. They are all<br />

growth industries for this wonderful state of <strong>Queensland</strong>. I believe that this bill will make commercial<br />

arbitration a more attractive option to parties by enabling the private, fast and fair resolution of<br />

disputes by an impartial arbitrator without excessive legal costs. The bill also allows parties to choose<br />

their own arbitrator. The bill allows a party to the dispute to undertake arbitration in the language of<br />

their choice, which is a wonderful aspect of the legislation. Last night I attended an event at the<br />

wonderful Greek Club. A couple of Greek business owners who do not speak English could choose a<br />

Greek arbitrator to resolve their dispute. It is important to note that this bill applies only to domestic<br />

commercial arbitration and expressly recognises that the Commonwealth act governs international<br />

commercial arbitration.<br />

I reiterate how important this bill is for getting the state of <strong>Queensland</strong>’s businesses back on<br />

track. I will tell members what effect this bill will have on organisations. Let me talk about one of my<br />

local construction companies. Homezone Projects is a great local building company. Should they<br />

have a dispute, they will not need to go and pay one of the local lawyers a lot of money. They could<br />

employ an arbitrator to get their dispute solved very quickly.


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I would like to congratulate the Attorney-General and his staff for their hard work and effort. I<br />

acknowledge the hard work of the members of the committee and you, Mr Deputy Speaker Berry, as<br />

chairman, in looking at this bill. This goes a long way towards the reduction of red tape that was given<br />

to us by the previous Labor government. I commend this bill to the House.<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN (Albert—LNP) (8.20 pm): I am not too sure that I can beat the transport issue.<br />

The member was talking about going down to the Gold Coast. She has to go through the electorate of<br />

Albert to get the Gold Coast. The electorate of Albert is the gateway to the Gold Coast. We are the<br />

main manufacturing hub.<br />

I am certainly pleased to speak in support of the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. Once again,<br />

the Newman government is committed to bringing commercial arbitration into line with national and<br />

international practices. Commercial arbitration has been a hot topic in my electorate of Albert in<br />

recent times. I have actually had business owners come to me and talk about the frustration they<br />

have suffered when it comes to these potentially lengthy processes.<br />

The electorate of Albert is positioned at the northern end of the Gold Coast and the southern<br />

end of Logan. We have massive industrial potential in the northern section of the electorate—around<br />

the Yatala region. That area goes into the Coomera electorate. We need to ensure that we attract<br />

businesses to the area. We need to ensure that we reduce red tape and that the legislation is set up<br />

in such a way that it attracts businesses to our area. Business owners need a cost-effective and<br />

efficient process that is in line with international best practice. It is hard enough to run a business<br />

without all this additional aggravation.<br />

This bill certainly combines the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law Model<br />

Law on International Commercial Arbitration and domestic arbitration provisions. This is certainly<br />

welcome. When I was speaking to my businesses about this they were happy that this legislation is<br />

being put through. It puts us in step with the other states, apart from the ACT—<br />

Miss Barton: It’s not a state.<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN: Territory. I take the interjection from the member for Broadwater.<br />

Mr Hart interjected.<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN: They are a little bit behind the eight ball on this one. We went to the last<br />

election with our policies relating to a four-pillar economy. When it comes down to it, we need to get<br />

our four-pillar economy going. One of the crucial pillars of the economy is the construction industry.<br />

There is certainly a lot of development going on in the Albert region. There are a lot of foreign<br />

investors coming in. There are also a lot of interstate investors. Streamlining the commercial<br />

arbitration system will help promote my region and attract businesses to the area. I am certainly very<br />

happy about that.<br />

The most important issue for me is getting jobs for last year’s school leavers. They are out<br />

searching for jobs. Upper Coomera State College is doing an absolutely fantastic job when it comes<br />

to students attaining university placements. Over 20 per cent of students attained university<br />

placements. These individuals will need jobs in the future. Therefore, we need to attract business to<br />

this state. This new legislation will do this. Our commitment and the wonderful job the Attorney-<br />

General has been doing in bringing this new legislation in will help our businesses. Cutting red tape<br />

and streamlining processes certainly makes a huge difference to businesses.<br />

I have quite a large population of New Zealanders in the Upper Coomera region. One of the<br />

things they say to me is, ‘How do we get a job in the mines?’<br />

Dr Flegg interjected.<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN: I take the interjection from the member for Moggill. These individuals are<br />

desperately looking for suitable employment. It is crucial that governments actually promote<br />

businesses. It is crucial that we are proactive. I take my hat off to the Attorney-General for his hard<br />

work on this legislation.<br />

The Gold Coast City Council has indicated that by 2030 the number of jobs in the Yatala area<br />

will almost triple. It is a massive development area. It is the factory region for the Gold Coast. People<br />

can get their fibreglass pools, concrete tanks, building materials—you name it—up there. We have<br />

the famous Carlton & United Breweries factory just beside the highway.<br />

Mr Hart interjected.


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area.<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN: I take the interjection. It is fantastic. I will not talk about the beverages there.<br />

Miss Barton: Try the Burleigh Brewing Co.<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN: We have competition down in Burleigh, but I have a bigger factory in my<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Berry): Order! Member for Albert, are you taking interjections?<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN: No, I am not taking interjections from the member for Burleigh because he<br />

has a smaller beverage factory than me.<br />

The bill defines the scope and form of arbitration agreements. This includes appointments of<br />

arbitrators and the powers and procedures arbitrators follow. In addition, the legislation contains the<br />

power to create awards and terminate any proceedings. I also understand the awarding of costs and<br />

determining settlements is provided for in this bill.<br />

This legislation gives the parties a lot more say. For instance, if parties cannot agree the<br />

decision defaults to the arbitrator. Furthermore, safeguards are included if concerns do arise about<br />

the arbitrator’s independence or qualifications. In this instance a challenge can be mounted to resolve<br />

the disagreement through arbitration or alternatively through the courts. In addition, for checks and<br />

balances applications to set aside awards are restricted to specific points. These include breaches of<br />

natural justice, arbitration agreements as they concern the awards and court decisions in respect of<br />

the legality of arbitrating a particular disputed issue.<br />

Arbitrators will have the powers to make decisions and preserve evidence and nominate costs.<br />

This is binding upon the decision for court applications. Furthermore, the bill outlines conditions if the<br />

matter needs to proceed to the courts. I must add, the bill recognises interstate awards and gives the<br />

court the power to enforce them.<br />

The bill also includes additional procedural matters, which includes a requirement for parties to<br />

provide statements of claim and defence at the commencement of the proceedings. This also<br />

includes powers for arbitrators to make an award on settlement and/or the appointment of an expert.<br />

Again, I just want to highlight how important it is to attract businesses into our areas. When it<br />

comes to the schools in our areas, we have to get our school leavers into jobs. The government<br />

needs to be proactive. The Attorney-General is doing a fantastic job. He is a proactive AG. I take my<br />

hat off to him. I take note of all the other legislation he has been putting through in recent times. When<br />

it comes to law and order, I can tell members that my neighbourhood watches are over the moon<br />

about the hard work this man is doing. It is really terrific and I certainly take my hat off to him for that.<br />

Miss Barton: You don’t have a hat on.<br />

Mr BOOTHMAN: I know. I do not have a hat on. I take the interjection. But if I did I would. I just<br />

want to say thank you to the AG for bringing in this legislation and getting our state back on track by<br />

reducing the red tape and all the draconian bureaucracy which, as a former small business owner, I<br />

can certainly understand. It is pretty tough out there. So good on you, AG.<br />

Dr FLEGG (Moggill—LNP) (8.30 pm): That contribution from the member for Albert was<br />

certainly a very difficult one to follow. And that could have two meanings: it was difficult to follow or it<br />

is difficult to follow it! This bill was all about keeping disputes out of court, and I feel I am a very wellqualified<br />

member to speak about that. Having had a lot of business experience before I came into this<br />

place, I realise how easy it is for commercial disputes to end up this way. On reading this bill, I was<br />

very impressed with how strong the conditions are. I am not even a bush lawyer like the member for<br />

Gregory or a real lawyer like the Attorney-General or Mr Deputy Speaker—<br />

Mr Bleijie: Are you a real doctor?<br />

Dr FLEGG: Come and see me and find out. But even bush lawyers like the member for<br />

Gregory can think about the loopholes that people might use to try to get out of regulations like this. It<br />

is very important to create a consistent business environment that is conducive to business operation<br />

in this state and in this nation being competitive. An important part of that is the nationally consistent<br />

nature of this particular bill. It is a model law so that means that the various jurisdictions in Australia<br />

will be consistent with each other and will be consistent with the federal arrangements.<br />

In particular, I note that the parties to a contract agree in contracting that they will submit<br />

themselves to binding arbitration. This is a case that on entering into a contract the participants in that<br />

contract make a binding agreement that, should their contract fall into disrepute, they forgo the right to<br />

go to court and they will submit themselves to a binding decision by an arbiter. This should help to<br />

unclutter our legal system and—


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Miss Barton interjected.<br />

Dr FLEGG: Well we want to unclutter it, but I did Google ‘commercial lawyers Brisbane’ just to<br />

have a look. I found that there are quite a lot of them, but I am quite sure they will still find enough<br />

work to do.<br />

In my previous job as Minister for Housing, this was a particular issue that we had a look at in<br />

relation to what are called BCIPA payments. Particularly in the area of energy infrastructure with<br />

pipelines and some of the big projects that we have in <strong>Queensland</strong> where some of those contracts<br />

can be quite substantial, you may be dealing with a contractor, even a reasonable sized contractor—<br />

you might be dealing with a multibillion dollar principal in a contract—who, should they come to an<br />

expensive legal dispute, may win just because they have deeper pockets. I think that this is a<br />

provision that will make <strong>Queensland</strong> a more attractive place and will make people feel safer in<br />

entering into commercial contracts.<br />

Mr Deputy Speaker Berry, you would be aware of some of the very famous disputes that have<br />

arisen in the commercial contract area. I think there was a famous precedent with one of the valves<br />

on Rheem hot-water systems which at one point was the longest running litigation in Australia. These<br />

sorts of disputes are utterly debilitating for the business participants. So I refer to that as a sort of<br />

David and Goliath issue where, if you have deep enough pockets, you can run a case in court, you<br />

can keep it going, you can appeal it if necessary. I think this assists to create a much more level<br />

playing field.<br />

I note that consultation was done in the previous iteration of this bill. My understanding is that<br />

the opposition, naturally enough given the history of this, are planning to support it. So I think that in<br />

the area of consultation we can be satisfied that that has been adequately dealt with.<br />

One phrase that appears in this bill that I think is very, very important to the functioning of this<br />

bill is that the decisions made in arbitration should be ‘fair and final’—‘final’ particularly being the vital<br />

word. If you have a situation where decisions of the arbitrator can be appealed or are not final, then<br />

you are going to have a situation that probably takes you back to where you started from.<br />

Clause 7 of the bill defines what an arbitration agreement is. I refer back to my earlier comment<br />

that this is an agreement entered into by parties when they contract because they perceive it to be to<br />

their mutual benefit. So the nature of that agreement is defined quite clearly in the bill. It is the<br />

agreement by which parties submit to arbitration all or certain disputes which have arisen or which<br />

may arise between them in respect of a defined legal relationship, whether contractual or not. So it is<br />

important to have a good understanding of what the arbitration agreement is.<br />

Issues such as the number of arbitrators that would be involved on a particular tribunal to<br />

decide these matters are available for the participants in a contract to agree upon. There are some<br />

circumstances laid down under which the appointment of a particular arbitrator can be challenged. In<br />

some instances that challenge can go to the court. But the bill is well put together and it minimises the<br />

circumstances under which disagreement over a particular arbitrator could lead to such a dispute.<br />

Mainly it would revolve around the area if there were some concern about the impartiality or<br />

independence of an arbitrator. A situation that could conceivably arise in areas that are very dispute<br />

prone would be that very large corporations may in fact be arbitrating on a regular basis, and it would<br />

obviously be undesirable if they had the same arbitrators all the time who might be getting a<br />

substantial portion of their work from one or a small number of clients. That may raise some concerns<br />

around impartiality.<br />

Interestingly, there is a provision that, should the contract itself of which an arbitration clause is<br />

part be found to be null and void, this does not automatically void the agreement to go to arbitration.<br />

This is a very important clause. I am very pleased to see that the Attorney-General has inserted this<br />

clause in the bill because, Mr Deputy Speaker, you know what could happen in those<br />

circumstances—that is, somebody who was unhappy with his prospects at arbitration could attempt to<br />

avoid arbitration by contesting the validity of the contract itself. Even those sorts of behaviours have<br />

been foreshadowed here.<br />

We have a group of interim measures. For example, while awaiting arbitration particular<br />

decisions may need to be made to keep a particular project viable or to keep a particular project safe.<br />

So those interim measures that could be enforced have been laid down as well. There are provisions<br />

around the conduct of the arbitration, for example agreeing what language or languages it is to be<br />

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to attend. There is provision to require the provision of documents. These are necessary powers that<br />

an arbitrator must have to be able to come to a full, fair and final solution. There are provisions should<br />

somebody refuse to attend an arbitration and there are also some provisions that deal with<br />

information that may come up within the course of the arbitration tribunal that deal with confidential<br />

information. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr HART (Burleigh—LNP) (8.40 pm): I thank the member for Moggill for giving me 10 minutes<br />

to recover my composure after the speech from the member seated beside me! I will endeavour not<br />

to enter into a debate as to who has the biggest brewery. After all, we know that it is not the size that<br />

counts but the taste of the beer.<br />

I rise to speak in support of the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012, introduced to the parliament<br />

on 30 October 2012 by the Hon. Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, the member for Kawana.<br />

This bill, like many other bills that the Newman government has introduced, is about streamlining<br />

processes to make it simpler for <strong>Queensland</strong> residents and particularly <strong>Queensland</strong> businesses to<br />

undertake commercial arbitration rather than necessarily be forced into the world of litigation.<br />

As we move into a national and global business environment, this bill creates a high level of<br />

consistency with the national arbitration regime and similar legislation already adopted in other states<br />

and territories. As I personally experienced before becoming a member of this House, the difference<br />

in the cost and the time commitment when involved in arbitration rather than litigation can be<br />

enormous and more complex when working across multiple jurisdictions within Australia. The passing<br />

of this bill will be welcomed enthusiastically by businesses across <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

This bill also harmonises the <strong>Queensland</strong> domestic commercial arbitration regime within the<br />

Commonwealth International Arbitration Act 1974. Once again, this will assist in arbitration across<br />

multiple jurisdictions. The benefits to those involved will be lower cost and, hopefully, speedier results<br />

and outcomes. By allowing more cases to settle through arbitration rather than litigation, pressure<br />

should be reduced on the state court system, which we acknowledge is under a load that leads to<br />

higher costs for those involved and lengthy lead times that are inconsistent with business continuity.<br />

As previously noted, we are increasingly part of a national and worldwide business community.<br />

This bill ensures that <strong>Queensland</strong> businesses are supported by adherence to world standards in<br />

commercial dispute resolution.<br />

It has been increasingly said that arbitration to date has become too litigious and the<br />

advantages of an arbitration action have become lessened when it comes to cost and time. However,<br />

the former Standing Committee of Attorneys-General agreed to update and modernise the uniform<br />

acts, thus ensuring they reflect international best practice. This in turn supports arbitration as an<br />

efficient and cost-effective alternative to litigation. I would like to quote from an excellent article by<br />

correspondent Ben Christoffel of Norton Rose Australia on 2 February this year. He says—<br />

The changes introduced in section 1AC of the Arbitration Bill are aimed at ensuring that arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong> is an<br />

efficient, cost-effective alternative to litigation. The Arbitration Bill aims to achieve this objective by:<br />

1. enabling parties to agree how their commercial disputes are to be resolved; and<br />

2. providing arbitration procedures that enable commercial disputes to be resolved in a cost effective manner, informally<br />

and quickly.<br />

This section is a reminder that one of the main advantages of commercial arbitration, in the domestic context, is the ability of<br />

parties and arbitrators to tailor arbitration procedures for the most efficient resolution of the dispute.<br />

Parties may have a preference for an arbitration that is as formal as court proceedings or for something that is relatively<br />

inexpensive and quick.<br />

There is often difficulty when the parties have varying views of where on the line between these two extremes the arbitration<br />

should sit. Parties may also have differing expectations to that of the arbitrator, and, as can often be the case, those<br />

expectations may sit outside the realms of practicality and reality.<br />

Regardless, these issues should be taken into consideration by the arbitrator to ensure that procedures are appropriate to the<br />

nature and value of the dispute.<br />

That is an excellent overview of section 1AC of the bill.<br />

There are a number of changes which, when passed, will mean that arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

will be more time and cost-effective for all involved. This is reinforced with changes in section 5 of the<br />

bill, which has been somewhat controversial in some circles. This effect comes into play when parties<br />

agree to the process of arbitration to resolve a dispute. This section ensures that by agreeing to an<br />

arbitration process they are excluding the court system as a method to resolve the dispute. They are<br />

making a conscious decision to do so. And the result of the arbitration will be binding on all parties.<br />

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party is, for example, not happy with the proceedings. Once there is an agreement to settle a dispute<br />

by arbitration, no longer will that party suddenly be able to say that they wish to change direction and<br />

will now go to court to have the matter resolved. This allows certainty and clarity at the<br />

commencement of a proceedings.<br />

Until now there were numerous examples in commercial disputes of a sudden switch from<br />

arbitration to, say, the Supreme Court being used as a tactic to stall or extend the time frame to come<br />

to a resolution. I am sure we have all heard of those instances. You only have to read our<br />

newspapers to see these sorts of things happening. In fact, this tactic has often extended a dispute by<br />

many years. Once the matter becomes bogged down in the court system, it just seems to hang there<br />

and hang there. This section has been adopted unamended by all jurisdictions that are based on the<br />

modern bill.<br />

The other amendments that take effect in this bill all work together to achieve desired aims of<br />

time efficiency, cost efficiency and lessening court involvement in arbitration matters.<br />

Importantly, this bill is part of the state government’s ongoing plan to reduce red tape and<br />

reduce the cost of doing business in <strong>Queensland</strong> while endeavouring to free up litigation through the<br />

court system. What this bill achieves is legislative harmonisation with all other jurisdictions and is<br />

another step in the process of making it easier to do business in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

I commend the Hon. Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, the member for Kawana, for the<br />

work associated in bringing this bill to the House. I also thank the chair and members of the Legal<br />

Affairs and Community Safety Committee for their work on this legislation. It is a great pleasure to<br />

commend this bill to the House.<br />

Mr PUCCI (Logan—LNP) (8.48 pm): I rise today to contribute to the debate on the Commercial<br />

Arbitration Bill 2012. We have heard a lot of talk about lawyers during this debate. I am no<br />

commercial lawyer, although I do live in what I call country—the best country—and I am not a bush<br />

lawyer. However, I have travelled significantly around the world in many different countries and I have<br />

had to handle quite a few ‘disputes’. You could call me a bit of a sea lawyer. I speak on this bill with<br />

that in mind.<br />

The current act is consistent with the uniform Commercial Arbitration Act previously developed<br />

by the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General—the SCAG—across Australia. The bill is yet<br />

another example of our government’s commitment to cut red tape and streamline processes acrossthe-board<br />

in <strong>Queensland</strong>. The current model for arbitrations has become too litigious. It is just too<br />

hard, it takes too long and it is very confusing and bulky.<br />

Mr Watts interjected.<br />

Mr PUCCI: I am getting there. Realising this issue, the SCAG agreed to undertake strategic<br />

remodelling to update and modernise practices that are currently employed. Such a modernisation<br />

will reflect measures that are in line with the best practices on an international level as well as<br />

supporting arbitration as an efficient and cost-effective alternative to litigation. Currently, clauses<br />

affecting arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong> restrict the rights and liberties of individuals and corporations by<br />

limiting access to the courts in commercial arbitration matters.<br />

I talked to some wonderful manufacturing businesses in my area of Logan, because<br />

manufacturing is one of the largest industries in Logan. BDS Pty Ltd in Magnesium Drive in the<br />

Crestmead-Browns Plains area manufactures quality shop fittings and display and shelving systems<br />

all over Australia. If they were to have a dispute it would affect them financially, it would affect their<br />

employees and it may even affect their ability to help the BDS Logan Thunder, the women’s<br />

basketball team that they sponsor. If honourable members want to see a quality women’s basketball<br />

team play they should come and visit Logan Thunder. I also have the Costa mushroom exchange,<br />

which ships mushrooms Australia-wide. That is a wonderful place to visit, too. If honourable members<br />

ever want to taste the sweetest mushrooms in Brisbane or <strong>Queensland</strong> they should come and visit<br />

Logan, where my largest employer, the Costa mushroom exchange, is located. This legislation will<br />

help these businesses survive.<br />

Recently I met with two constituents of my great electorate of Logan whose difficulties with the<br />

arbitration system proved to be a frustrating process to say the least. Our government is<br />

wholeheartedly committed to improving services in our great state. This bill will ensure that efficient<br />

and effective practices are in place. My constituents’ angst stems from the tedious process that is


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involved in arbitration procedures and how significantly it impacts on the financial viability of their<br />

businesses, as I was saying earlier. In order to promote commercial growth within our communities,<br />

the administrative avenues for dispute resolution should not hinder or impede the process.<br />

Honourable members would have heard me speak about this many times. We have the greater<br />

Flagstone area which will one day house 120,000 people. Yarrabilba is being built right on the border<br />

of my electorate. Park Ridge is being built up. There is also North Maclean, where the Costa<br />

Exchange is located. That is going to be an industrial area. If we want to attract businesses to these<br />

growth areas, the largest growth areas in South-East <strong>Queensland</strong>, we need legislation like this. This<br />

is the type of legislation that is going to help businesses grow and get our great state with great<br />

opportunities back on track. Again, it is up to our government to take the steps needed to get the<br />

arbitration system back on track. I do acknowledge that Her Majesty’s loyal opposition is supporting<br />

this bill—<br />

Mr Bleijie: And Her Majesty’s government.<br />

Mr PUCCI: And of course Her Majesty’s government. I welcome the opposition’s support of the<br />

bill. To that I say better late than never.<br />

This bill will ultimately result in a more cost-effective process for both the judicial system and<br />

plaintiffs hearing cases before the courts. Furthermore, this bill will address court intervention at<br />

various stages to ensure the arbitral process is conducted in accordance with the arbitration<br />

agreement, principles and procedural fairness, relevant public policy and the law. The inclusion of<br />

these clauses will provide parties with the clarity and the certainty about the extent of judicial<br />

intervention and is consistent with the proposition that awards should be final and binding.<br />

This legislation is about keeping it out of the courts, saving money and saving businesses.<br />

Clauses will not include a time limit for parties to give their written consent for an arbitrator to continue<br />

to act. This increases the power that parties will have in the process to ensure that the best process is<br />

followed and that an outcome that is in the best interests for all parties concerned is achieved. That is<br />

important because it is not necessarily about getting the fastest outcome, but getting the best<br />

outcome for all parties concerned in the dispute. That is an important part of the legislation.<br />

The clauses also provide that an arbitrator is not liable to prosecution for an act or omission<br />

done in good faith as an arbitrator or as a mediator. Further, clauses in the bill protect an arbitrator or<br />

umpire from negligence unless the offence is fraud. The proposed immunity is consistent with<br />

immunity provided for conciliators and adjudicators which has been recognised as appropriate by the<br />

former scrutiny of legislation committee.<br />

I want to thank the honourable Attorney-General, the honourable members of the Legal Affairs<br />

and Community Safety Committee as well as the support staff for their efforts in the delivery of this<br />

bill. It is another example of the great things that this great government is doing for this great state<br />

with great opportunities. I proudly commend this bill to the House.<br />

Mr STEVENS (Mermaid Beach—LNP) (8.56 pm): I rise tonight to speak to the Commercial<br />

Arbitration Bill. It gives me great pleasure to speak to this very important bill that the Attorney-General<br />

has brought before the parliament. It is very rare for the Leader of the Opposition to praise the<br />

Attorney-General and suggest that the work he is bringing forward to this House is a wonderful<br />

improvement for the business and commercial area, which is one of the four pillars that the LNP has<br />

concentrated on to get <strong>Queensland</strong> working again, matters of critical importance to <strong>Queensland</strong>. It<br />

was great to see that bipartisan support from the Leader of the Opposition for the Attorney-General.<br />

The standardisation of the <strong>Queensland</strong> arbitration laws in accordance with our national laws,<br />

which are also modelled on the international laws, is an important part of doing business a lot better in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>. People get wound up in difficult commercial litigations. I have utilised the arbitration<br />

system. I was very impressed with the attempts that were made to bring about a resolution to the<br />

disputes in which I was involved. Like many others, I saved considerable amounts through the<br />

arbitration system. There was also a saving in terms of not tying up valuable legal resources.<br />

It is marvellous that we have a great number of legal practitioners in the LNP parliamentary<br />

team and all of them are of eminent reputation such as the members for Ipswich, Beaudesert, our<br />

Attorney-General of course, Nanango, who spoke earlier, and the member for Broadwater. Many<br />

others of wonderful experience in many areas of commercial practice see the enormous value that is<br />

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member for Toowoomba North’s very relevant speech earlier when he alluded to businesses in<br />

Toowoomba expanding and doing a lot of international business. When there are disputes between<br />

international neighbours, any level of arbitration between Toowoomba traders and their international<br />

business partners will mean that there will be a commonality in terms of coming to a reasonable<br />

solution to the dispute at hand.<br />

Arbitration is, just like politics, all about giving a little bit to get a result. There is no absolute<br />

winner in an arbitration case. It is up to the very experienced and qualified arbiter to bring together an<br />

equitable and fair solution for both parties, and the normal route for that to happen is that both sides<br />

end up not getting 100 per cent of what they have put in with regard to the commercial agreement.<br />

That is the success of a commercial arbiter and that is why following the guidelines that this bill<br />

introduces in terms of commercial arbitration will lead to a greater understanding, a greater<br />

acceptance and a greater utilisation of the arbitration system effectively—that is, the necessity of our<br />

system right across-the-board to improve the business climate for people in <strong>Queensland</strong> to do<br />

business.<br />

Even the lawyers are prepared to give up some of their very wonderful fees in order to see the<br />

arbitration system work effectively. But when groups come together and agree with this particular<br />

bill—esteemed groups such as the Australian Centre for International Commercial Arbitration, the<br />

Institute of Arbitrators and Mediators Australia and even the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society, the Bar<br />

Association of <strong>Queensland</strong> and the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators all coming together to support<br />

this piece of legislation—then you know that the legislators have got it correct, the Attorney-General<br />

has got it correct and the parliamentary committee system that reviewed this bill has got it correct so<br />

that we are delivering a much improved system of arbitration for those commercial interests in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Obviously arbitration reduces the demand on courts and court time, and that leads me to one of<br />

my favourite subjects—QCAT, which was seen as the focus for the determination of all minor<br />

disputes et cetera. This arbitration bill will cut down on its workload and gives it the opportunity to look<br />

at many other areas. Even the racing industry is going to QCAT at the moment. There is a line-up<br />

way out the door and around the corner for QCAT. Someone mentioned bodies corporate, and they<br />

are in the QCAT queue. That is a very good one—the QCAT queue. The QCAT queue goes right out<br />

the door and around the corner with disputes. This arbitration bill will undoubtedly lead to the QCAT<br />

queue being shorter than it would be if we did not have the commercial arbitration bill. It is very similar<br />

to other COAG measures coming down through the federal government in terms of model law<br />

legislation, which obviously makes it easier for people to understand. It is consistent with people<br />

doing business in other states. They can now understand the arbitration laws of <strong>Queensland</strong> and the<br />

processes, so it makes the business climate a lot friendlier for people to come and invest in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

This arbitration bill is a major win. It is not a light piece of legislation. It is a major win for<br />

commercial interests in <strong>Queensland</strong>, and again it goes along our much stated trail of reducing red<br />

tape in <strong>Queensland</strong>. The Newman LNP government has as its No. 1 priority reducing red tape<br />

throughout <strong>Queensland</strong>. By going down this course of standardising and improving the arbitration<br />

system for <strong>Queensland</strong> in accordance with national and international arbitration, we are creating a<br />

better climate for people to do business in <strong>Queensland</strong>. We are reducing red tape and cutting down<br />

on the processes that people have to go through.<br />

Another sector with which I was involved heavily in my previous business life was shopping<br />

centre leases. There is always acrimony and debate between shopping centre lease owners and<br />

small traders. This will give a much clearer defined route for shopkeepers to be able to take their<br />

commercial disputes through this arbitration process with a more certain outcome in terms of a fair<br />

and equitable arbitration process. The small business sector is one part of our community we are very<br />

keen to maintain and give every opportunity to thrive. We are very keen to see small business<br />

protected. By going to this new arbitration system, we are giving those small businesses a greater<br />

opportunity and greater knowledge to deal in these certain commercial cases, particularly with<br />

landlords who are not particularly caring of small business concerns and might in other cases take<br />

them through a very expensive legal process. A lot of small traders cannot afford that process but the<br />

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This improved arbitration process will undoubtedly lead to a much better facilitation of a quicker<br />

resolution to disputes, and that in itself takes away some of the time that small business, lawyers and<br />

all business parties are spending in terms of litigation. It is easier and quicker to go through the<br />

arbitration process. From my perspective and from my experience, even though you might not always<br />

agree on the matter and there will probably be a loss to some to a certain degree in the claim, there<br />

will be the opportunity for a fair and equitable hearing. I commend this bill to the House.<br />

Mr MOLHOEK (Southport—LNP) (9.07 pm): I am pleased to rise in the House this evening to<br />

speak in support of the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. The Newman government is committed to<br />

updating and modernising <strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration law in line with national and<br />

international best practice. Arbitration, as my colleagues would know, is intended to provide parties to<br />

disputes with cost-effective, expedient access to an enforceable determination as an alternative to<br />

lengthy, expensive public court hearings.<br />

It may interest the House to know that in one of my many former careers I had the pleasure of<br />

being the CEO of a legal firm on the Gold Coast for some 18 months to two years as it was<br />

transitioning through a range of fairly interesting partnership issues. One of the things that I came to<br />

learn during that time was that the bane of every legal firm’s life is having to deal with long,<br />

protracted, expensive litigation cases, often over sometimes fairly trivial matters. The process and the<br />

cost burden on both the law firm and the clients is quite onerous. The problem with some of these<br />

very lengthy litigation cases is that in the end nobody seems to win. They are expensive. They are<br />

quite stressful for all parties concerned. I believe that this bill that we are debating tonight to simplify<br />

and streamline the arbitration process and to bring it into line with all of the other states of Australia is<br />

not only a significant step forward but a very important move in terms of red-tape reduction and<br />

reducing the cost of business and bringing some common standards across the nation, particularly in<br />

a state like <strong>Queensland</strong> where we have so many people moving here from interstate.<br />

My job was not, as we heard from the member for Ipswich this afternoon, to bill in six-minute<br />

increments. I was not a lawyer. As the member for Mansfield, the Hon. Ian Walker, the Assistant<br />

Minister for Planning Reform would know, the way a lawyer makes a living is by billing in six-minute<br />

increments. I am sure the member for Ipswich would understand the importance of even charging<br />

$1.40 per page for the photocopying and for processing all the paperwork and the recording of<br />

telephone conversations and emails. That process gets quite expensive.<br />

Mr Berry: It is hard work.<br />

Mr MOLHOEK: It is hard work, but it is not particularly a cost-effective process for some<br />

business operators who are just trying to get on with business and move on with their lives. When you<br />

have to wait for a court hearing and you are waiting for a solicitor’s advice and you are waiting for the<br />

other party to get back to you, it can be incredibly challenging and a huge impost on business. I recall<br />

a case where a client had been overcharged for some repairs to a jet ski. If I recall correctly, at the<br />

time the jet ski cost about $20,000. It was only about nine months old. I think the owner’s son had<br />

been giving it a fair thrashing out in the surf. The bill for the repairs came in and it was some $5,500<br />

to get this jet ski repaired. This client really took exception to that, so he challenged the firm that had<br />

undertaken the repairs. I can tell members that the matter went on for some 12 to 18 months. I think<br />

he ended up spending over $10,000 in legal fees and he still did not win the battle. He ended up<br />

having to repay the repair bill because it was deemed appropriate to do so.<br />

I want to run through some of the important features of this legislation because it is important<br />

that we understand fully what we are going to be adopting a little later this evening. Arbitration is a<br />

formal dispute resolution process in which two or more parties refer their commercial dispute to an<br />

independent third person, the arbitrator, for determination. The result of the arbitration is known as the<br />

award and it is enforceable in the same manner as a court judgement. Commercial arbitration is<br />

commonly used by the insurance, construction, engineering, oil, gas, shipping, banking and finance<br />

industries when resolving their disputes. Given the LNP’s commitment to the four pillars and our<br />

determination to really get the construction industry going, our focus on improving tourism as an<br />

industry across the state and our commitment to lowering the cost of living and to red-tape reduction,<br />

when you look at all the different sectors that rely on this particular legal process of arbitration to<br />

resolve disputes in a cost-effective manner this is really important legislation that we are here to<br />

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Arbitration is intended to provide parties to disputes with cost-effective, expedient access to an<br />

enforceable determination as an alternative to lengthy, expensive public court proceedings—similar to<br />

the one that I spoke just a little earlier. Currently, <strong>Queensland</strong>’s Commercial Arbitration Act 1990<br />

governs the conduct of domestic commercial arbitrations in <strong>Queensland</strong>. It is one of a series of<br />

substantially uniform laws across Australia that are commonly referred to as the uniform commercial<br />

arbitration acts, which were developed under the auspices of the former Standing Committee of<br />

Attorneys-General a couple of years ago.<br />

The new model commercial arbitration legislation was agreed by this Standing Committee of<br />

Attorneys-General and settled in July 2012 to address criticisms that arbitrations in Australia had<br />

become too litigious, with proceedings increasingly resembling those of a court and that there was a<br />

need to modernise and update the uniform commercial arbitration acts to ensure that arbitration<br />

provides an efficient and cost-effective alternative to litigation, which is consistent with international<br />

best practice.<br />

All states in Australia except <strong>Queensland</strong> and the Australian Capital Territory have passed this<br />

model legislation. This model bill is based on the United Nations Commission on International Trade<br />

Law Model Law on International Commercial Arbitration. It is also consistent with the Commonwealth<br />

International Arbitration Act 1974. It is further supplemented by provisions relevant to the domestic<br />

commercial arbitration setting.<br />

There was an attempt to bring this bill to the House under the previous government back in<br />

2011. It was referred to the Legal Affairs, Police and Corrective Services and Emergency Services<br />

Committee. That committee tabled its report on 16 February 2012 and recommended the passage of<br />

the bill. Unfortunately, the bill lapsed upon the dissolution of parliament for the general election earlier<br />

last year. This bill will benefit <strong>Queensland</strong> businesses by modernising and updating <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

commercial arbitration law and aligning it with other Australian jurisdictions, adopting international<br />

best practice and strengthening the underpinning attractions of arbitration as an alternative to<br />

litigation, namely, expediency, cost-effectiveness and autonomy.<br />

I am pleased to support this bill. I would like to summarise what I see are its main features. It<br />

applies to domestic commercial arbitration only and expressly recognises that the Commonwealth act<br />

governs international commercial arbitrations. It defines the form and scope of arbitration agreements<br />

and it provides for the selection, appointment and challenge of arbiters. It also sets out an arbiter’s<br />

powers. It contains procedural provisions. It applies a confidentiality regime to the parties and arbitral<br />

tribunal alike, but contains a consensual opt-out provision. So there is the opportunity for the parties<br />

involved in an arbitration to opt out of privacy if they are wanting their findings or the results of that<br />

arbitration to be made public.<br />

I am pleased to support this bill. It addresses the making of awards and the determination of<br />

proceedings, including costs and settlement. It outlines preconditions for applications to court to have<br />

an award set aside or to appeal on a question of law. It recognises interstate awards as binding and<br />

allows applications to a court for their enforcement. I commend this bill to the House.<br />

Mr RUTHENBERG (Kallangur—LNP) (9.16 pm): It gives me great pleasure to rise this evening<br />

to speak to the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. I would like to share with members an experience<br />

my brother shared with me some time ago over some beers around a camp fire. My older brother,<br />

Neil, is a great outback man. He gets his Outback and away he goes—<br />

Mr Dempsey: Brokeback Mountain?<br />

Mr RUTHENBERG: No, no, no. He certainly visits some mountains but he has never had his<br />

back broke, let me tell you. He is a great man and he takes his family. They have been all over<br />

Australia in their four-wheel drive. On one occasion they were driving up to the very tip of Australia<br />

and they got stuck. The drive shaft on their four-wheel drive broke in half. There are not a lot of repair<br />

places there. Luckily, they were well equipped and had a lot food. They decided they would set up on<br />

the side of the road. They put up their tent and got their billy out. Neil, being the bushman he is,<br />

decided to go for a walk. He came across this strange-looking lamp, which is probably not so strange<br />

up there because there are a lot of different groups who have explored those areas. But being the<br />

adventurer he is he says, ‘Do you know what? I’m going to give this a go.’ He rubbed this thing and,<br />

much to his surprise, a genie popped out. The genie says to my brother Neil, ‘I’m a lawyer, but based<br />

on conventions of my profession as a genie I am going to give you three wishes. But I warn you, as a<br />

lawyer, every lawyer in <strong>Queensland</strong> gets double what you ask for.’ You have to understand that my


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brother is a businessman. He owns a pest-control franchise. He has had his share of trouble with<br />

people who will not pay their bills so he has had to use the odd lawyer from time to time. He does not<br />

have a lot of time for lawyers.<br />

Mr Johnson: He didn’t have a persuader?<br />

Mr RUTHENBERG: Oh, he has a persuader, don’t worry about that. That is much to my<br />

chagrin, because I have a lot of time for lawyers. I think they are great people—most of the time. So<br />

my brother says, ‘Look, I’ll tell you what, Mr Genie, I would love the most expensive and the best fourwheel<br />

drive you can conjure up for me right now.’ The genie says, ‘Holy smokes, I can do that for you,<br />

but remember: every lawyer in <strong>Queensland</strong> gets two of these.’ And bingo! Out comes this Hummer.<br />

This Hummer was just beautiful. It was all decked out like you would not believe. ‘Unbelievable!<br />

Fantastic!,’ Neil says. ‘You ripper.’ He says, ‘Hey, Mr Genie, I’m living in a tent over there. How about<br />

some land title and the best house you’ve ever seen?’ The genie said, ‘I’m warning you.’ Neil said,<br />

‘No, no, okay, do that.’ So poof! And all of a sudden the ground starts shaking and up comes this<br />

house like you have never seen. It was phenomenal. The genie says, ‘Don’t forget, though: every<br />

lawyer in <strong>Queensland</strong> just got a house twice as good as that.’ Anyway, Neil goes back and cracks the<br />

top off one of his beers and sits back and says, ‘Mr Genie, I’m a good fella. I’d like to give a little bit<br />

back to the community. I’ll tell you what I’d like to do. I’d like to donate one of my kidneys for<br />

research.’<br />

With this bill lawyers will become very scarce. With this bill and arbitration there are many<br />

people who will be able to negotiate themselves out of dispute.<br />

Mr Bleijie: I’m going to stand up and take offence to all of this.<br />

Mr RUTHENBERG: It was a joke. For years I worked with a very large multinational company<br />

and had occasion to fly around the world from time to time working with customers. This is no joke;<br />

this is real now. Our contracts typically had dispute resolution clauses in them. Those dispute<br />

resolution clauses on their own were almost as big as the rest of the contract because every little<br />

possibility had to be thought about. I remember one time in a little place called Springfield there was a<br />

power generation company that had two large generating plants and they were wanting to build a<br />

third one.<br />

Mr Davies: That’s the home of the Simpsons.<br />

Mr RUTHENBERG: No, the Simpsons lived in the other Springfield. We were helping them to<br />

put in some software and do some process work. They were a good customer and we spent a lot of<br />

time with them, but we came to a point where there was a bit of a dispute. To the credit of that<br />

company I got a phone call where they said, ‘Why don’t you come over? There are a couple of things<br />

we need to talk about.’ They were getting a little bit nervous. We went over, and over a period of a<br />

couple of days we went through what was going on.<br />

Mr Cox: I thought you were going to tell another joke.<br />

Mr RUTHENBERG: No, this is fair dinkum. We went through the things that were going on and<br />

talked it out, because part of the dispute resolution process was that we had to sit down in selfarbitration<br />

first. We sat down and talked it out because the penalties for both companies for not<br />

talking it out were very expensive and we wanted to avoid that. We sat down and worked it out and<br />

came to a resolution and a solution.<br />

With well-designed process and procedure the same things will happen with this bill. I<br />

remember another time in Qatar we were working with the world’s largest LNG plant. It was the same<br />

deal: we came to a point of dispute. We sat down and worked through it. That one took a little bit<br />

longer but we worked through it and we came to a point of resolution because both sides had the<br />

desire to come to a point of resolution without getting to the next phase. That is what arbitration can<br />

do with a willingness to work through problems.<br />

Shortly in my electorate, along with the electorates of Murrumba and Redcliffe, a railway line<br />

will start to be built. There will be a billion dollars spent in the next four years installing a very nice,<br />

new, shiny railway line. It is actually very important for our communities and the economies of our<br />

local communities. There will be hundreds of companies involved in that process. How good it would<br />

be to have legislation in place such that if they found themselves at a point of dispute they could<br />

actually go to arbitration instead of to court. How good would that be?


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In my electorate and the electorate of Murrumba is a place called the Narangba Industrial<br />

Estate. It employs some 1,800 to 2,500 people. There are lots of companies there providing lots of<br />

employment. There are companies there that I speak with from time to time who are in dispute and in<br />

court over certain things. It would be fantastic to be able to direct them and point them along the path<br />

of arbitration so that we can come to a point of resolution of a dispute in a peaceful, less aggravated<br />

manner. There are jobs available when companies are not spending money in dispute year after year<br />

after year. They can invest that money in research and development or in capital growth and<br />

investment.<br />

This is an incredibly important piece of legislation to allow us to ensure that those companies<br />

can, in fact, spend time doing what they do best: producing the product or service that they produce.<br />

This is a great state that has great opportunities. Under the leadership of our Premier things are<br />

starting to move. We are starting to see little green shoots through the economy. In my electorate I<br />

talk to real estate agents and they tell me that this year is the best year they have had in years. I talk<br />

to the lawyers who are acting on behalf of the smaller companies and they are saying that for the first<br />

time they are starting to see the small companies again invest. I see them as an early indicator for our<br />

economy. Tonight companies all over <strong>Queensland</strong> are saying thank you. I say thank you to the<br />

Attorney-General for introducing the bill, thank you to the folks in the committees who have looked<br />

over it and, on behalf of those companies across <strong>Queensland</strong> that have been waiting for this, thanks<br />

to the folks who are going to vote this up tonight. I wholeheartedly support this bill.<br />

Mr JOHNSON (Gregory—LNP) (9.26 pm): In rising to speak to the Commercial Arbitration Bill<br />

2012, I point out that it is a little bit less than 12 months since the Newman government came to<br />

power in 2012. Over that period of time we have seen a lot of landmark legislation come through this<br />

House that will make a hell of a difference to many people’s lives. As I said in this chamber yesterday,<br />

recently a businessman said to me, ‘Big business will look after itself, but you have to look after small<br />

business.’ That is exactly and precisely what this legislation will do.<br />

The Newman government is committed to updating and modernising <strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial<br />

arbitration law to bring it in line with other states. For too long now we have been on a different keel to<br />

those states around us. We are disadvantaged in many ways. I heard the member for Moggill make<br />

reference to the fact that the companies that have the deep pockets are the ones who are going to<br />

win every time. We have heard mention of the disagreements between gas companies and local<br />

farmers in some of the rural areas of <strong>Queensland</strong> and in the southern area of my electorate in<br />

particular. It has been a huge impost on some of these people. You do not find those dollars in the<br />

bottom drawer. People in the farming world, as members are well aware, are price takers and not<br />

price makers. Their commodities are governed by the seasonal conditions at the time. It is a very<br />

important factor that certain aspects of the law that govern the workings of the state are fair and<br />

equitable. It is all right for the big players that are multinational companies with corporate law firms<br />

behind them or that have their own corporate lawyers fighting their cases on a regular basis.<br />

This bill adopts the provisions of a model bill developed by the former Standing Committee of<br />

Attorneys-General and the bill adopts the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law<br />

Model Law on International Commercial Arbitration. That is a very important factor, because today in<br />

Australia we are trading and doing business deals on the international scene where everything is<br />

governed or driven by technology. While that technology is very sophisticated and is out there doing<br />

its job, many times the smaller person can be left behind.<br />

A lot of people say, ‘Where’s your accountant?’ My accountant is in Toowoomba—and I make<br />

no reflection on bush accountants, either. My lawyers are in Toowoomba. My point is that we all have<br />

a centre of commerce where we do our business dealings because we know that that is where we will<br />

get loyal and credible advice. That is important, whether we are talking about taxation or legal issues<br />

and so on. Just like with medical issues, you will go where you will get the best outcome. In a lot of<br />

cases we are talking about the best outcomes for commercial operations.<br />

We live in a world of technology and it puts the spotlight on Australian business through<br />

international competition. Therefore, we need to make absolutely certain of the mechanisms that are<br />

in place to eliminate disputes, which slow productivity, so that we can see better time and cost<br />

efficiencies. Time and cost efficiencies are essential to the bottom lines of a lot of companies. In<br />

business, people do not need impediments that will cause their operations waste through unneeded<br />

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margins. At the moment right across <strong>Queensland</strong>, right across Australia and right across the<br />

international scene, small business is suffering because of the international monetary cycle.<br />

Wherever you live in the world, the almighty dollar will always drive how business operates and how<br />

we function.<br />

While it is all very well to talk about small business, this bill is about eliminating red tape to<br />

create a fairer environment where <strong>Queensland</strong> falls into line with the other states, with the exception<br />

of the ACT. I heard one member, and it might have been the member for Capalaba, mention that<br />

some lawyers might not get as much money out of the operation as they used to. However, it will<br />

sharpen up some law firms. Backyard lawyers, ambulance chasers, or whatever you want to call<br />

them, damage the professional standards that are set by the Law Society in this state and country.<br />

Like doctors, dentists or other professional people, lawyers are very reputable. Many people look to<br />

professionals with strong standards for advice. This legislation is all about giving the smaller business<br />

people a better go through national uniformity which is exactly what this legislation will achieve.<br />

The explanatory notes states that one of the objectives of the bill is to—<br />

... maintain a high level of consistency between <strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration regime and similar legislation already<br />

adopted in other Australian jurisdictions<br />

As I said a while ago, this bill brings us into line with other states. This legislation will break<br />

down a lot of barriers involving transactions across state borders when negotiations are done,<br />

whatever the type of business. At the end of the day, that uniformity will decrease costs in a lot of<br />

ways. A lot of business is now done via the internet. This legislation will expedite the process without<br />

engaging the corporate sector to advise on trivial things that may be able to be dealt with by a local<br />

lawyer at a local level.<br />

The Uniform Commercial Arbitration Acts were developed by SCAG and adopted across<br />

Australia. The uniform acts reflected international best practice and supported arbitration as an<br />

efficient, cost-effective alternative to litigation. This is where a lot of cost has crept into people’s<br />

operations over a period. If they get the wrong advice, litigation can be a breaking factor that has<br />

caused financial embarrassment to a lot of people. If people do not get the right advice, this is one<br />

area where we see a lot of people go to the wall, and they find that they cannot redeem themselves<br />

from the situation.<br />

I applaud the Attorney-General because, since he has been the Attorney-General in this<br />

government, he has brought some very responsible and solid legislation into this chamber, especially<br />

in the area of law and order and now through the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. This bill applies<br />

only to domestic commercial arbitration. It expressly recognises that the Commonwealth act governs<br />

international commercial arbitration. That means that we are looking after the smaller operators who<br />

in the past have not had a focus put on them but have been left to wonder how they will get out of<br />

some of the situations they have found themselves in.<br />

The accords set down in this legislation will create an environment where people will be able to<br />

progress a lot of their business transactions through negotiation or arbitration and get an outcome<br />

quicker. As some members have said in the debate this afternoon and this evening, this is about<br />

eliminating a lot of red tape. Red tape is the greatest strangler of business and its security in this state<br />

and nation. I do not know how many thousands of miles of red tape were created by the former Labor<br />

government. I salute the government that I am a member of for eliminating red tape. The most<br />

important thing that we have is our young people who want to go into business. This legislation will<br />

enhance their operations and their initiatives. It will allow them to progress final negotiations without it<br />

costing them an arm and a leg.<br />

Mr LATTER (Waterford—LNP) (9.37 pm): Tonight it is a wonderful pleasure to stand here in<br />

support of this bill. I note comments that were made earlier by the honourable Manager of<br />

Government Business, the member for Mermaid Beach. He noted and acknowledged that even the<br />

Leader of the Opposition expressed bipartisan support for this bill. I think it goes a long way to<br />

demonstrating the importance of this bill and what is being undertaken this evening by the Attorney-<br />

General when it has such support, including from industry bodies such as the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law<br />

Society, the Bar Association and the different arbitration bodies that have an interest in this<br />

legislation. I think it goes a long way to demonstrating that importance.<br />

I am going to discuss the reasons for the bill. I note that the existing Commercial Arbitration Act<br />

is consistent with the Uniform Commercial Arbitration Acts previously developed by the Standing<br />

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that arbitration had become too litigious, the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General agreed to<br />

updating and modernising the uniform acts and ensuring that they reflect international best practice<br />

and support arbitration as an efficient, cost-effective alternative to litigation. Indeed, members will<br />

know that a model bill for this purpose was settled in July 2011. It was based on the United Nations<br />

Commission on International Trade Law Model Law on Commercial Arbitration and aligned with the<br />

Commonwealth act to promote national consistency in regulation and the conduct of international and<br />

domestic commercial arbitration.<br />

The model bill includes additional provisions which supplement the United Nations Commission<br />

on International Trade Law with domestic provisions for local commercial arbitration. If we turn to the<br />

objectives of the bill we find that what we are hoping to achieve is the ability to govern <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

domestic commercial arbitrations in a manner consistent with the national model bill agreed to by the<br />

former Standing Committee of Attorneys-General. The bill also seeks to adopt the United Nations<br />

Commission on International Trade Law Model Law on International Commercial Arbitration with<br />

supplemental domestic provisions for local commercial arbitration. It seeks to maintain a high level of<br />

consistency between <strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration regime and similar legislation already<br />

adopted in other jurisdictions. I believe that the member for Nanango pointed out, and rightly so, that,<br />

at this point in time, it is only <strong>Queensland</strong> and the ACT that have not adopted such a model. This<br />

legislation will bring us into line, as has been said so many times this evening.<br />

Mr Rickuss interjected.<br />

Mr LATTER: I think <strong>Queensland</strong> is a leader in this country. It is good to see that we are taking<br />

the initiative to get on board with something so important. I thank the member for Lockyer for his<br />

interjection.<br />

What we are trying to achieve more than anything is the provision of more accessible, costeffective<br />

and timely processes for the fair and impartial resolution of commercial disputes through<br />

arbitration and to ensure <strong>Queensland</strong>’s adherence to world standards in commercial dispute<br />

resolution.<br />

With regard to clause 5 of the bill, I note that it is somewhat restrictive insofar as it limits access<br />

to the courts in commercial arbitration matters. The limitation on court involvement is justified given<br />

that, in nominating for pursuing arbitration, parties are making the decision not to include court<br />

jurisdiction and resolve their dispute by alternative means. Parties consent to the use of this<br />

legislative framework to avoid the more costly and time-consuming process of litigation.<br />

In saying that, the bill permits court intervention at various stages to ensure that the processes<br />

are conducted in accordance with the arbitration agreement and that principles of procedural fairness,<br />

relevant policy and the law are met. Clause 5 does provide some clarity and certainty about the extent<br />

of judicial intervention and is consistent with the proposition that awards should be final and binding.<br />

Clause 27D allows the parties to agree to use the arbitrator as a mediator, conciliator or other<br />

non-arbitral intermediary to resolve their dispute. If this is unsuccessful, the arbitrator can continue to<br />

arbitrate with their agreement. This follows the model bill in the interests of uniformity. Any uncertainty<br />

would be mitigated by clause 24B, which will impose a general duty on parties to do all things<br />

necessary for the proper and expeditious conduct of arbitral proceedings.<br />

This clause could also nullify privacy and confidentiality rights. If an arbitrator acts as a<br />

mediator with the agreement of the parties, the arbitrator must treat information provided during the<br />

mediation as confidential, unless otherwise authorised. Confidentiality was mentioned previously.<br />

I note that the member for Burleigh paid credit to an article by Ben Christoffel of Norton Rose.<br />

Mr Christoffel goes to some length in his review of the proposed legislation. I note under section 8 he<br />

states—<br />

Under the Superseded Uniform Acts, where a party to arbitral proceedings simultaneously brought proceedings in a competent<br />

court, the court had discretion to decide whether to stay proceedings in order to let the arbitration proceed.<br />

Section 8 of the Arbitration Bill provides that if there is a valid arbitration agreement, and the subject matter of the dispute is<br />

capable of settlement via arbitration, the court is required to stay proceedings while the matter is arbitrated.<br />

Under the Arbitration Act, section 53 provides that the court has discretionary power to order that a proceeding be stayed until<br />

an arbitration takes place. Section 8 of the Arbitration Bill simplifies the procedure in applying for a stay in proceedings.


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It gives some certainty in that regard. I think that is a good thing. Mr Christoffel continues—<br />

With the introduction of this section, the courts can maintain their supervisory jurisdiction, which in turn, ensures that if both<br />

parties have signed up to the arbitration process, parties can not disrupt and delay proceedings by avoiding the arbitral<br />

process.<br />

With respect to confidentiality rights, if mediation proceedings are terminated the mediating<br />

arbitrator may continue to act in the subsequent arbitration proceedings provided that both parties<br />

agree. If this occurs, the arbitrator is required to disclose confidential information that is material to the<br />

proceedings disclosed during the mediation proceedings prior to arbitration continuing.<br />

The disclosure requirement is intended to assist the parties in making informed tactical<br />

decisions about whether they should consent to the arbitration continuing. It forewarns of potential<br />

issues regarding the arbitrator’s possible impartiality and bias which might flow from their knowledge<br />

of confidential information.<br />

That gives me great comfort. At the end of the day, this proposed bill purely simplifies the<br />

processes of arbitration, cuts down the costs that are involved with litigious processes and basically<br />

makes it easier for the parties involved. There is great benefit in this for business and commercial<br />

industry not just in my area but right across <strong>Queensland</strong>. I see this as a welcome addition. Should I<br />

become aware of any issues I would direct commercial interests in my region to take part in this with<br />

some rigour. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr SHUTTLEWORTH (Ferny Grove—LNP) (9.47 pm): I rise in the House this evening to<br />

support the Commercial Arbitration Bill 2012. As many of my colleagues have outlined this evening<br />

and this afternoon, this bill will align <strong>Queensland</strong> with the national law that has been implemented in<br />

other jurisdictions. It will allow us to adopt the United Nations Commission on International Trade<br />

Law.<br />

As many members have already mentioned, by and large this bill will ensure that <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

business is reinvigorated to a new level across all of the four pillars of the economy under the<br />

Newman government. What I would like to raise this evening is a bit of history and instances where I<br />

have been personally affected by the inadequacies of the previous system and also provide<br />

encouragement for the many businesses that are operating throughout the Ferny Grove electorate<br />

and indeed throughout the state of <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

As I am sure many members are aware, my life prior to entering this House revolved around<br />

the provision of enterprise software solutions to a number of large companies operating throughout<br />

many industry sectors in <strong>Queensland</strong>. Whilst we did focus largely on manufacturing and resource<br />

industries, we did also have a large footprint within retail, within service industries and within other<br />

professional companies in operation throughout <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

The company I worked for previously had their head office situated in Melbourne. I would have<br />

to say that with any enterprise software solution—and I am sure those opposite would understand this<br />

when entering into an engagement for the provision of enterprise software—it is rather an intense<br />

period of discovery in setting up the provisions which the contracts may take. I think perhaps the most<br />

difficult undertaking that I had at almost every stage of sale was when we got down to the nitty-gritty<br />

to talk about how dispute resolution may occur, if indeed we ever got to that point. Thankfully I would<br />

have to say that the company I worked for previously, whilst we did sell payroll systems, never in my<br />

seven-year history got to the point where we needed arbitration or legal intervention. However, I do<br />

dwell on the fact that it may well have come in very handy in some previous contractual undertakings<br />

that the state has entered into in recent times.<br />

I have to dwell on the point that at the initial stage of engagement in any commercial<br />

undertaking both parties enter into that engagement with a level of goodwill. Both parties actually do<br />

enter the engagement where one party is going to provide a level of goods or service and the other<br />

party is going to pay a level of consideration for the delivery of those goods or service. Obviously at<br />

some point prior to the need to enter into a legal pursuit or arbitration, something goes astray. But the<br />

initial need of both of those parties still exists—the need for one party to survive financially through<br />

the provision of service and the need for the other to receive that good or service at a reasonable<br />

consideration.<br />

So I think it is very important to dwell on the point that both parties still have that commitment at<br />

heart. If resolution can be achieved without the necessity to go through both a timely and a very costly<br />

undertaking through the legal system, if an amenable resolution can be achieved through arbitration,<br />

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I come back to the point that in the electorate of Ferny Grove there are around 3,500 small<br />

business operators. Unlike many of my esteemed colleagues who have spoken this evening, we do<br />

not have an industrial estate in my whole electorate. We do not have a single industrial estate. We do<br />

not have a concentration of industry of any particular type in any one area. So most of the 3,500-odd<br />

businesses that operate throughout the electorate of Ferny Grove are either cottage industries or<br />

largely run from home—<br />

Mr Rickuss: Service industries.<br />

Mr SHUTTLEWORTH: Service industries, professional industries and industries run from<br />

home. I think it would be fair to say that most of those businesses are very, very innovative as a rule.<br />

Most are, in terms of the provision of professional services, people who obviously can engage at a<br />

very high level and deliver substantial outcomes to businesses. But they are somewhat hamstrung by<br />

the fear or the threat of legal pursuits if things should go astray.<br />

This is a very important point to dwell on because what we are doing without the<br />

implementation of a law such as this is constraining the level of innovation which our great state can<br />

carry forward. Whilst in recent times most of the innovation that I have witnessed has come through<br />

the IT sphere, when I did sell my enterprise software solutions to various companies I saw some<br />

outstanding innovations in terms of manufacturing processes, in terms of delivering new service<br />

outcomes to companies. I think it is very important to say that if people with this level of expertise and<br />

with the innovation at heart are not willing to pursue that because of fear of litigious outcomes,<br />

essentially we are stifling the industries of <strong>Queensland</strong> and in fact the industries of Australia.<br />

I have heard members mention many times over the course of the last year when talking on<br />

various bills how our manufacturing industries in Australia are depleting somewhat. I have to say that<br />

most manufacturers I have had any dealings with are looking always for new and innovative ways in<br />

which to take their product to market. What often constrains them in doing so is the fear that, if they<br />

are not successful, any pursuit of that through the legal system will bring their company to their knees.<br />

I think what this arbitration law does is essentially allow companies such as that to pursue more<br />

innovative outcomes, to pursue an engagement with large companies, to pursue the fact that they<br />

have these new and innovative ideas to take forward to the marketplace, and in fact enables them to<br />

engage in a way which will ensure that over time <strong>Queensland</strong>’s industries in manufacturing and other<br />

sectors are taken far further than where they are today.<br />

Coming back to the bill, I think it is very important that companies like the one I left, which we<br />

operated in all states of Australia—and in fact its operations had a very, very large footprint in Papua<br />

New Guinea as well—are now aligned with the capacity to undertake arbitration across jurisdictions.<br />

That means that they and companies like them would be able to engage in a manner in which they<br />

are no longer fearful of the fact that they would be held to account in a jurisdiction of law in which they<br />

were unable to prosecute an argument effectively.<br />

I come back to the point that in any commercial undertaking the agreement initially is<br />

undertaken where parties have a desired outcome which has aligned. Arbitration, through its use of<br />

mediation, through its use of arbitration and so forth, essentially will achieve a much better outcome<br />

for both companies and parties involved at a much lesser cost and ultimately ensure that<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s industries prosper onwards and upwards into the future with new innovations and<br />

ideas. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr RICKUSS (Lockyer—LNP) (9.57 pm): I do not want to be repetitive, so I will try and take a<br />

new tack with this Commercial Arbitration Bill.<br />

Government members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Watts): Member for Lockyer, if you could just wait for a minute.<br />

Could I have a little bit of order in the House so we can hear the speaker on his feet?<br />

Mr RICKUSS: Thank you for your protection, Mr Deputy Speaker. I have found it a bit<br />

distracting, I must admit.<br />

I think this is a great piece of legislation that has been brought in by our young Attorney-<br />

General. You can see that he has that youthful enthusiasm and he is working hard to make sure that<br />

things actually happen in the parliament. Part of the problem that we have is that some of my older<br />

colleagues—and one of them is sitting beside me here—have used our adversarial system of law to<br />

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who have worked extremely hard to have money in their pocket until they have gone to see their<br />

solicitor. So this has been difficult. I think commercial arbitration will work wonders in this situation<br />

where it is about finding a solution.<br />

I have had actually been involved in some commercial arbitration.<br />

Mr Berry: Tell us about it.<br />

Mr RICKUSS: Thank you, member for Ipswich; I will tell you about it. One involved a seed<br />

company that had sold us some dodgy seed. The seed actually came up extremely well but it turned<br />

into nothing. It did not turn into the cauliflower it was supposed to turn into.<br />

Mr Cox: It was actually supposed to be onions!<br />

Mr RICKUSS: No, it was cauliflower. I and several other growers had expended quite a large<br />

amount of money to put this seed in the ground and get the plants to maturity, but unfortunately no<br />

curds eventuated in the plants. We then went into an arbitration process with the seed company.<br />

They did come good with some money. It was probably a bit limited, but—<br />

Mr Berry: You had a lawyer, though, didn’t you?<br />

Mr RICKUSS: I think we might have had a lawyer, yes. He cost us almost as much money as<br />

the seed company, which was a bit unfortunate.<br />

Mr Berry: A win-win!<br />

Mr RICKUSS: That is right. Arbitration really was a better system than this adversarial system<br />

that we have now. I congratulate the Attorney-General for bringing this bill to the House. I<br />

congratulate both sides of the House for agreeing that this sort of measure should be passed. I am<br />

sure this bill, when passed, will be put to good use.<br />

Hon. AP CRIPPS (Hinchinbrook—LNP) (Minister for Natural Resources and Mines)<br />

(10.01 pm): I thank the House for the opportunity to speak on the Commercial Arbitration Bill. I do not<br />

intend to take much of the time of the House, except to say that I am very pleased that the Attorney-<br />

General has brought this piece of legislation before the House.<br />

I understand that <strong>Queensland</strong> is one of the last jurisdictions in the Commonwealth to put in<br />

place this piece of model legislation that is required to have a modern regulatory framework for<br />

commercial arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong>. It will be of great benefit to businesses, small and large, which<br />

have an interest in this. It is also an important cost-saving measure for many businesses that will be<br />

able to undertake commercial arbitration in lieu of costly protracted legal proceedings which benefit<br />

no-one but the legal profession. Those members of the House who know me will know that—<br />

Mr Gibson: You love lawyers.<br />

Mr CRIPPS: I do not love lawyers. Often I think that the provision of alternative ways of<br />

resolving disputes between parties is some of the best work that is done by governments and by<br />

people in the private sector who are able to negotiate agreements that do not benefit legal<br />

practitioners or the court system. That is no reflection on the profession that the Attorney-General<br />

loves and it is no reflection on the way that a number of members of this House have made their living<br />

in the past. But certainly I think it is quite unnecessary for particularly businesses and private<br />

individuals on many occasions to have to commit large sums of money to resolve matters that ought<br />

to have been resolved amicably and without too much time being spent that often involves transaction<br />

costs as well as monetary costs.<br />

Obviously in view of the time I would like to keep my contribution to this debate short and<br />

acquiesce to the Attorney-General, who now is keen and eager to respond to the second reading<br />

debate.<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (10.03 pm), in<br />

reply: I start by thanking all speakers, particularly all the speakers who joined the debate as the night<br />

progressed who were not anticipating to be engaged in such a lengthy debate—<br />

Mr Stevens: Rigorous debate.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: Rigorous debate on a good piece of legislation. Members, as always, were well<br />

informed of the most important issues. We had members discussing the four pillars of the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> economy that the LNP strive to advance. We had the member for Kallangur telling a joke<br />

about genies in bottles. So I do thank all honourable members for assisting the Attorney-General<br />

tonight in filling some very important time in the important debate.


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Mr Rickuss: It was the issue we were after.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: It was. The quality of the debate was excellent. It is good to see the Treasurer in<br />

the chamber at the moment, because this is the Commercial Arbitration Bill which saves business<br />

money, cuts red tape and speeds up dispute resolution processes, although I must say that I was<br />

nearly caused on some occasions when I was in the chamber tonight to rise to points of order relating<br />

to offensive language by my parliamentary colleagues when they talked about lawyers—about how<br />

terrible all these lawyers are and how great this bill is because lawyers will now go broke. We heard<br />

great contributions, though, from the lawyers in the chamber tonight, sticking up for the profession.<br />

We had the great bush lawyers of the west such as the member for Gregory sticking up for the<br />

lawyers. I thank the member for Gregory for his great contribution to the debate tonight.<br />

Mr Johnson: Want to debate me some time?<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I am happy to debate the member for Gregory any night of the week.<br />

If I can summarise the debate in its entirety with 28 minutes of further contribution, I start by<br />

saying that the bill reflects international best practice. That is why we are doing this. It harmonises<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration regime with other Australian domestic regimes. It has the<br />

support of stakeholders and the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee. I thank the<br />

honourable the Deputy Premier for kick-starting the debate tonight when I was unable to read the<br />

second reading speech. I thank the Deputy Premier for taking the reins at short notice and delivering<br />

such a great speech—<br />

Mr Seeney: Riveting.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: The riveting speech we had prepared earlier for him. I thank the Deputy Premier.<br />

This is a contribution to the government’s policy of building a four-pillar economy. This bill<br />

empowers the parties to have an arbitration process to suit their circumstances. It promotes an<br />

arbitration process which values confidentiality and expediency and will assist businesses in resolving<br />

disputes with minimal delay and the expense that goes with it.<br />

A few weeks ago I attended the international trade law reform convention at the UQ Business<br />

School in town. I thank the participants in that trade convention. It offered a great insight into this type<br />

of legislation.<br />

The Leader of the Opposition claimed that these were Labor laws introduced by former<br />

Attorney-General Paul Lucas in the dying days of the former government. They were introduced by<br />

the former government but never debated.<br />

Ms Palaszczuk: Come on.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I cannot let the opposition leader take credit for these laws just because the<br />

former government introduced them. They never made it a priority to get the laws debated.<br />

Mr Stevens: They failed to deliver.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I take the interjection from the Leader of the House: they failed to deliver.<br />

Ms Palaszczuk interjected.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I never said that I was going to be nice. If I recall correctly, it was very close to the<br />

end of the former government’s term when the bill was introduced. Obviously it went through a very<br />

consultative process with the former committee. I recall that the former Attorney-General came to me<br />

in the final sitting week of 2011, prior to the election, and asked if we could just run this through. I said<br />

no, that it required appropriate debate and that in the context of the election campaign and the now<br />

government’s four pillars of the economy—agriculture, construction, tourism and resources—it was<br />

important that it was an LNP government that lead this legislation through tonight. I thank all<br />

honourable members for their contributions but do acknowledge that the former government did<br />

introduce some laws but never debated them. I am pleased that the Liberal National government is<br />

actually putting this through for debate tonight. Hasn’t it been a wonderful, long debate?<br />

In terms of stakeholder support, we have far-reaching support from the Bar Association and the<br />

Chartered Institute of Arbitrators Australia. They made suggestions for amendments and the Leader<br />

of the Opposition asked whether we would be prepared to take them on board. I say that we are, but<br />

first we must put them forward to the appropriate stakeholders when we look at these model laws in<br />

the future. Members will know that I generally have hesitation in supporting any reform that is a


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national or model law reform because I believe that <strong>Queensland</strong> ought to do it best—and oftentimes<br />

we do it better than the Commonwealth. This is a particular reform for which industry and businesses<br />

have been crying out. It certainly saves a lot of money. The honourable the Deputy Premier<br />

mentioned on my behalf that I will write to my counterparts in other states and territories advising<br />

them of the matters raised in the context of this debate for consideration as part of any future review<br />

of the model bill by the now Standing Council on Law and Justice. We will follow through with that.<br />

I am confident that the key stakeholders will continue to monitor the operation of the legislation and<br />

advise the council should amendments be considered desirable in the future.<br />

The member for Ipswich West talks about good legislation. He congratulated the government<br />

on introducing this type of initiative and bringing it forward, about which I am pleased. The member for<br />

Ipswich talked about the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee—and I thank the committee<br />

for its work on this bill. It also suggested that the stakeholders support the bill. The member for<br />

Ipswich also said it was extremely important for business that we keep pace, otherwise they will<br />

arbitrate in other jurisdictions. Incidentally, while we are talking about all things other than this bill, we<br />

announced recently that we are reintroducing the title of Queen’s Counsel in this great state of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>. We do that because we see the benefit in being a competitive state, competing with our<br />

counterparts in New South Wales and Victoria. Particularly in the Asian market there is a perception<br />

that QCs are higher than an SC, which we know is fundamentally not correct. We are in the process<br />

of working with the Bar Association to reintroduce the title of Queen’s Counsel and abolish the title of<br />

Senior Counsel. You may ask what the relevance is to this bill. It is relevant because if we are talking<br />

about commercial disputes, lawyers will still be involved, despite some of the members not wanting<br />

that. Incidentally, I have just received a letter from a Victorian Senior Counsel stating that he has<br />

recently written to the Victorian Bar Association asking it to follow <strong>Queensland</strong>’s lead and reintroduce<br />

the term Queen’s Counsel to Victoria.<br />

Mrs Frecklington interjected.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I acknowledge the member for Nanango’s strong support for that initiative.<br />

Obviously under the guidance of the Treasurer, the member for Nanango supports that initiative. I<br />

think it is a great initiative and it is fantastic that at the time of the announcement of the change to this<br />

policy I said that it would be great if we had a situation where learned colleagues in other jurisdictions<br />

pushed their Bar Associations for the reintroduction of the title of Queen’s Counsel. So it is great to<br />

see that that debate has now started in Victoria. I did digress a little, but it is important in terms of the<br />

commercial context of this bill.<br />

The member for Broadwater said that it is fantastic that the opposition is supporting the bill.<br />

That is a good start. She also says that the bill is fantastic for business and arbitrators in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

The government is continuing to reduce red tape and make it easier to do business. This is<br />

fundamentally what this government is about. How can business get on with business and do<br />

business, which is what they do best in <strong>Queensland</strong>? I have said on many occasions that the best<br />

thing governments can do for business in <strong>Queensland</strong> is to get out of their way. The best thing we<br />

can do as legislators is free up the road blocks and free up the roads in front of business and let them<br />

get on with business because they do it best. If we do that, if we can reduce red tape, compliance<br />

costs and government costs of business then businesses can employ people. I congratulate the<br />

honourable the Treasurer, particularly for the increase in the payroll tax threshold by $100,000,<br />

because it has allowed business to get on with the job and employ people, contributing to the<br />

government’s overall target of reducing unemployment in this state by 2.4 per cent in the next five<br />

years. It is a challenge. No-one is saying it is an easy job to achieve that target but we are certainly<br />

on the way with these types of bills and legislation. I thank the member for Broadwater for her<br />

commentary on the bill.<br />

The member for Bulimba said that it is great to see a bill which will result in the promotion of<br />

greater autonomy and participation of parties, finality of awards, protection of confidentiality and<br />

access to alternative methods of dispute resolution—very similar to the explanatory notes. I thank the<br />

member for Bulimba and look forward to seeing the positive effect that he says it will have on<br />

industry. That is what we are all about: the positive impact this will have on the <strong>Queensland</strong> economy<br />

and industry.<br />

The member for Toowoomba North, the honourable Deputy Speaker sitting in the chair now,<br />

gave a great presentation and extended the debate out to dinner this evening. I thank him for his<br />

contribution tonight. He talked about the dispute resolution mechanisms that will be efficient and<br />

effective, which are important. That is why they are a part of this bill. The member for Toowoomba


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North also talked about being competitive on the world stage. This is where we want to be. We<br />

believe in competitive federalism but we also want to compete on the world stage. Having these<br />

international model laws for commercial arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong> will certainly allow our businesses<br />

to compete on this national stage.<br />

The member for Nanango, who gave a great presentation and was very supportive of the<br />

government’s QC policy, talked about a trucking company whose trucks travelled through all<br />

electorates and about how this legislation would improve the processes for them—and this is<br />

interesting coming from the member for Nanango—and reduce money paid to lawyers. That is<br />

interesting because the member for Nanango was a lawyer. So I would not have expected the<br />

member for Nanango to advocate for that sort of regime. In any event, she did.<br />

Mrs Frecklington: I have the green here.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: Absolutely! The member for Albert talked about the importance of promoting the<br />

growth of business, particularly in <strong>Queensland</strong>. This is important for all the school leavers in Albert<br />

and across <strong>Queensland</strong> looking for jobs. This is what this government is about: creating jobs for<br />

young people so they can live, learn and earn locally no matter which electorate they live in.<br />

I thank the member for Moggill for his contribution and for confirming that he is a real doctor.<br />

He was talking about real lawyers and bush lawyers, and he confirmed that he is a real doctor. He<br />

also told us that he had engaged in many disputes of his own and that he can come to this debate<br />

tonight with plenty of personal experience in disputes. I thank the member for Moggill. The member<br />

for Moggill talked about the consultation on the bill. Having gone before two committees now—under<br />

the previous parliament and this parliament—it has probably been the most consulted bill. When I<br />

became the Attorney-General one of the meetings I had was with the associations representing<br />

commercial arbitration in Australia. They are very much of the view that we should get on with the job<br />

and bring this bill before the House. They were disappointed that the former government did not get<br />

their act together and get the bill passed through the former parliament. They are very happy to see<br />

that this is finally on the agenda.<br />

The member for Mermaid Beach made a contribution tonight and talked about disputes going<br />

to QCAT and certain issues with respect to that. He also talked about the fact that the Commercial<br />

Arbitration Bill will save certain litigation. As a former lawyer, I always find it difficult when we talk<br />

about saving litigation. However, believe it or not, I think all lawyers aspire to save parties litigation.<br />

It is more cost-effective if parties can mediate and arbitrate their matters rather than litigating<br />

their matters. Not only does it cost people a lot less money; mentally it does not impact as much on<br />

people, because we know that litigation and courts can be a trying experience for many people and it<br />

is a difficult and confusing process for people to go to litigation and to court. The other issue I would<br />

mention in that respect is not only the cost but the difficulty if they cannot afford representation and<br />

lawyers to go to court and then one would be self-represented, which always presents difficulties for<br />

the individual.<br />

The member for Southport again attacked lawyers. I will defend lawyers, although I think given<br />

the majority of the contributors to the debate tonight—I would hasten to say, member for Nanango,<br />

member for Broadwater, member for Caloundra, member for Clayfield, member for Ipswich—we<br />

would be outnumbered in terms of the debate tonight unfortunately. We would certainly be<br />

outnumbered. However, the member for Southport did talk about six-minute increments that lawyers<br />

are known for. The point is that I will always stick up for the profession of lawyers because at the end<br />

of the day—I missed the member for Beaudesert of course—people need assistance sometimes to<br />

travel through these difficult legal processes and sometimes they just need a little hand to do that.<br />

The member for Gregory, although acknowledging himself as a bush lawyer in the member for<br />

Nanango’s speech, said that lawyers are reputable people and it is a reputable profession. I thank the<br />

member for Gregory.<br />

A government member: Did he say that?<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: He did say that, Minister, and I could not do anything but agree with the member<br />

for Gregory. The member for Kallangur made a very interesting contribution tonight. It took me back<br />

to Aladdin and the 40 thieves and the genie in the bottle with the joke that he made. I am going to<br />

have to read Hansard tomorrow because I still do not quite understand what the joke was about, but<br />

I am sure the Hansard reporters will understand it and will be able to make some sense of it, or<br />

perhaps the member for Kallangur might give a private show later to make me fully understand what<br />

the joke was about! To the member for Kallangur’s credit, I did ask for a bit of filibustering tonight, so<br />

thank you and thanks to the Deputy Speaker for not pulling you up for being totally irrelevant to the


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piece of legislation you were speaking on. But I digress again. We are getting on with the job of this<br />

Commercial Arbitration Bill. I thought what I might do in my remaining 12 minutes is just ask some<br />

rhetorical—<br />

Ms Palaszczuk: Not that you would know how to do that, Attorney-General.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I take the interjection. It is not that I like filibustering; it is just that I have always<br />

got a good contribution to make to the debate, you see. What I thought I might do is ask myself a<br />

couple of rhetorical questions just in case members were unaware where I stand on this bill and—<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK: I rise to a point of order. I draw the Attorney to relevance.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Watts): Attorney, if you could keep to the title of the bill please.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. The questions that I am about to pose to myself<br />

have been drafted by the Department of Justice and Attorney-General and I trust that my trusty<br />

department staff have been completely relevant.<br />

Ms Palaszczuk: You should’ve got us to ask them.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I might hand one across that you might want to ask. We must be quick; we only<br />

have 11 minutes to go. People may ask why we are debating the Commercial Arbitration Bill.<br />

An honourable member: Why are we?<br />

An honourable member: Yes, why?<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: Thank you, honourable members. I could say to you tonight categorically why we<br />

are debating the Commercial Arbitration Bill. It currently, as we would appreciate, governs domestic<br />

commercial arbitrations in <strong>Queensland</strong> and was developed under the auspices of the then Standing<br />

Committee of Attorneys-General, SCAG, and is a series of substantially uniform laws across Australia<br />

that are commonly referred to as the Uniform Commercial Arbitration Acts. In April—<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK: I rise to a point of order—repetition.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: Mr Deputy Speaker, I actually have not said this because the Deputy Premier—<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: There is no point of order.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE:—gave that speech. So it may be repetitious of what the Deputy Premier said, but<br />

I actually have not said it quite yet.<br />

Mr Seeney: So the rule of repetition doesn’t apply.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: Exactly. I take the interjection from the Deputy Premier: the rule of repetition<br />

ought not apply in this instance. In 2009, as I said, SCAG developed a new uniform commercial<br />

arbitration law, updating and modernising the Uniform Commercial Arbitration Acts to ensure that<br />

arbitration provides an efficient and cost-effective alternative to litigation which is consistent with<br />

international best practice. SCAG agreed to implement the model law and in July 2011 all aspects of<br />

the bill were passed, but it has taken a couple of years to get to this point in time. The bill replaces the<br />

Commercial Arbitration Act 1990 <strong>Queensland</strong> with a new model based on the United Nations<br />

Commission on International Trade Law model law on international commercial arbitration and<br />

supplemented by provisions relevant for the domestic commercial arbitration setting.<br />

The bill will make <strong>Queensland</strong>’s commercial arbitration law as consistent as possible with the<br />

new commercial arbitration legislation already enacted in other Australian jurisdictions and help align<br />

the domestic commercial arbitration regime with the Commonwealth’s International Arbitration Act<br />

1974. The bill will create—and this is the exciting part for honourable members—an environment<br />

which encourages better use of the domestic commercial arbitration regime to ensure that businesses<br />

have better access to processes for fair and final resolution of commercial disputes by impartial<br />

arbitral tribunals without unnecessary delay or expense and will ensure <strong>Queensland</strong> is recognised as<br />

a jurisdiction which meets world standards for facilitating the resolution of commercial disputes.<br />

Honourable members may also be interested to ask what impacts this new legislation will have on<br />

business and government.<br />

Mr Stevens: What impact will it have on business and government?


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Mr BLEIJIE: I take the interjection from the Leader of the House and the question. No doubt<br />

the member for Hervey Bay is interested if this will impose any new costs on anyone. I have the<br />

answer—<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Minister, resume your seat. Honourable members, the level of<br />

background conversation is beginning to get to a level where I cannot hear the Attorney-General. If<br />

you could keep your conversations down please.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: It is very rude, isn’t it, Mr Deputy Speaker? The member for Hervey Bay asked me<br />

the question as to whether it will impose any additional costs. I am happy to answer the member for<br />

Hervey Bay because he had a particular interest in this. The bill will apply to commercial arbitration a<br />

formal dispute resolution process whereby parties refer their commercial disputes to an independent<br />

third person—the arbiter—for determination. The overriding objective of this bill as articulated in<br />

clause 1AC is to facilitate the fair and final resolution of disputes by an impartial tribunal and ensuring<br />

procedures around the conduct of arbitrations result in disputes being resolved more informally,<br />

quickly and with less cost than if the dispute had been resolved by a court.<br />

An honourable member interjected.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I will take the interjection in a minute. Under the bill, parties to the arbitration are<br />

generally free to agree how their disputes are to be resolved. This, coupled with the procedural<br />

framework provided under the bill, gives parties greater control over proceedings, resulting in less<br />

regulatory burden for business when resolving their disputes. Accordingly, it is expected that the<br />

proposed policy option will have a positive—I repeat a positive—or at the very least a neutral impact<br />

on business. Also, the proposed reforms are expected to have a cost-neutral, if not positive, impact<br />

on the cost to government, which the Treasurer would be particularly pleased about. As discussed,<br />

the bill reduces the role of the court in commercial arbitration and therefore has the potential to<br />

positively impact on resourcing and the workload of the court.<br />

In a nutshell, this bill is all about achieving the objectives of the four pillars of the <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

economy—resources, construction, tourism and agriculture—and this government is very<br />

unapologetic in terms of striving for that objective. I thought I may for the benefit of honourable<br />

members explain how the process will work, because some honourable members who did not speak<br />

on the bill may be interested to take back to their constituency the details of this in terms of this bill<br />

and how it will operate. I know the Deputy Premier is a very keen tweeter now. He may be keen to<br />

tweet. In fact, the Deputy Premier has spoken so much about tweeting I had to check that he was on<br />

Twitter, and he is. Absolutely. I now follow the Deputy Premier on Twitter.<br />

How does it work in practice? In practice, the parties will generally agree to their arbitrations<br />

being conducted according to institutional rules provided by bodies such as the Institute of Arbitrators<br />

and Mediators Australia or the Australian Centre for International Commercial Arbitration. Both bodies<br />

have draft arbitration clauses to this effect that can be included in the contractual arrangements of<br />

parties. The institutional rules of those bodies provide an extensive framework dealing with the<br />

commencement of the arbitration, the composition of the arbitral tribunal, the proceedings<br />

themselves, the award and the fees applicable.<br />

Where is the arbitration to be conducted and what laws will apply? It will usually be dealt with<br />

by an arbitrator or arbitrators appointed pursuant to an arbitrator agreement. That agreement usually<br />

determines the jurisdictional seat for the arbitration. Disputes regarding the enforceability or seeking<br />

judicial review of the arbitrator’s award are dealt with in the court of relevant jurisdiction depending<br />

upon where the arbitration took place.<br />

How will the proceedings commence? In relation to the commencement, clause 21 of the bill<br />

provides that, unless otherwise agreed, the arbitral proceedings in relation to a particular dispute start<br />

on the date on which a request for the dispute to be referred to arbitration is received by the<br />

respondent. This occurs outside of the court proceedings when one party serves a notice of<br />

arbitration on the other. Clause 8 deals with the cases where one of the parties commences action<br />

before the court where the subject matter of the dispute is the subject of an arbitration clause. This<br />

clause imposes a requirement on the court where the court is valid and the party requests a stay in<br />

favour of arbitration pursuant to an arbitration agreement to refer that matter to arbitration.


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In conclusion I thank all honourable members for their contributions. The committee that had<br />

oversight of this bill made the recommendations to the bill, particularly those recommendations from<br />

the Bar Association, known to the government. The Bar Association had six recommendations,<br />

largely relating to the use of terminology and suggestions for clarification and placement of certain<br />

provisions. As I said, we ought to get the bill passed by this parliament and into action. Then at such<br />

time I am more than happy to make those recommendations to the other stakeholders in other<br />

participating jurisdictions if the model laws are, in fact, amended in the future and we may be in a<br />

position to be able to support those other amendments. Because this has all been agreed, it is difficult<br />

to unilaterally just change the legislation. So we will take them on board—and I give a commitment<br />

tonight that those recommendations have been taken on board—and the department will continue to<br />

monitor with our stakeholders what other participating jurisdictions do and we will ensure that, come<br />

the appropriate time, if those particular amendments are able to be made to these laws, we will<br />

support them.<br />

This is all about commercial arbitration in <strong>Queensland</strong>. This is about giving business a fair go.<br />

This is about efficiencies of business. This is about saving money. This is about reducing red tape<br />

and regulation. Certainly, that all aligns very much so with what the Liberal National Party government<br />

in <strong>Queensland</strong> is doing. We are a government that is unapologetic that we are helping small<br />

business. Over the past 11 months our policies have reflected that. We are a government that<br />

believes that government ought to get out of the way of business.<br />

Today, we heard the Minister for Environment talk about how we can save lots of businesses<br />

lots of money by getting rid of the waste levy and other initiatives that the Minister for Environment<br />

has introduced with the environmental laws. We have seen the Deputy Premier get on with the job<br />

and get things building and being constructed in this great state of <strong>Queensland</strong>. We have seen the<br />

Minister for Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services get on with the job of the Carmody<br />

commission of inquiry so that <strong>Queensland</strong> can be the safest place to raise a child. I acknowledge all<br />

honourable government members on the backbench and the frontbench for the work that they have<br />

done in getting our message out there that <strong>Queensland</strong> is open for business. We are pro business.<br />

We love small business in this state. Small business is the bedrock of society and this economy. By<br />

having international best practice in our commercial arbitration laws we can get out of the way and let<br />

small business get on with their job. It will help reduce unemployment and get young kids employed in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Question put—That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Bill read a second time.<br />

Consideration in Detail<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Watts): Order! I note the bill has been drafted to adopt the<br />

provisions of the model bill. The clause numbering has been retained to maintain consistency with the<br />

numbering of the model law.<br />

Clauses 1AA to 43, as read, agreed to.<br />

Schedule 1, as read, agreed to.<br />

Third Reading<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (10.35 pm): I<br />

move—<br />

That the bill be now read a third time.<br />

Question put—That the bill be now read a third time.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Bill read a third time.


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Long Title<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (10.36 pm): I<br />

move—<br />

That the long title of the bill be agreed to.<br />

Question put—That the long title of the bill be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

BODY CORPORATE AND COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT AND OTHER<br />

LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL<br />

Resumed from 14 September 2012 (see p. 2078).<br />

Second Reading<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (10.36 pm): I<br />

move—<br />

That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

I thank the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee for its consideration of the Body<br />

Corporate and Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012. I note that the<br />

committee tabled its report on 22 November 2012 and I highlight to members that I tabled a copy of<br />

the government’s response to that report on 22 February 2013.<br />

I also take the opportunity to thank the many unit owners and body corporate professionals<br />

who made written and oral submissions to assist the committee in its consideration of the bill. I have<br />

no doubt that the submissions were of enormous assistance to the committee in coming to terms with<br />

the difficult and complex matters dealt with by the bill.<br />

One of the principal policy objectives of the bill is to deal with issues concerning contribution<br />

schedule lot entitlements in community titles schemes. In particular, the bill deals with the former<br />

government’s abhorrently unjust and heavy-handed attempt to deal with concerns about lot<br />

entitlement adjustments. I made mention in my introductory speech that body corporate issues have<br />

been used as a political football for far too long. Labor’s 2011 amendments are but another tale in this<br />

sorry saga.<br />

Governments do not set lot entitlements and body corporate contributions. What they should<br />

do, though, is ensure that there is an independent system in place to arbitrate and conciliate between<br />

parties when there is a legal dispute. The 2011 amendments were an attack on orders made by an<br />

independent judicial body. We opposed them at the time and, from memory, our debate was led by a<br />

spirited and well researched contribution from the Minister for Tourism, Major Events, Small Business<br />

and the Commonwealth Games, who was our spokesperson. So we opposed them at the time and<br />

this was our position right through to the election in March 2012.<br />

Honourable members will be aware that there are competing views within the community titles<br />

sector about how lot entitlements should be set and about whether they should be subject to change<br />

during the life of a community titles scheme. Contribution schedule lot entitlements are used to<br />

determine how much each lot owner in a community titles scheme must contribute to expenses<br />

incurred by the body corporate in administering the scheme, such as the costs of maintaining the<br />

common property in good condition.<br />

It is not surprising that stakeholders hold strong and diverse views about the fairest way for<br />

sharing expenses between owners living and investing in a community title setting. Prior to 2011 the<br />

Body Corporate and Community Management Act 1997 allowed lot owners who felt that their lot<br />

entitlements were unfair to apply for an order of a specialist adjudicator or the <strong>Queensland</strong> Civil and<br />

Administrative Tribunal that the lot entitlements be adjusted. Through its 2011 amendments to the act<br />

the former government shut the door on unit owners who wanted to resolve lot entitlement disputes<br />

through these processes. But that was not enough for the former government. It also decided to<br />

undermine lawful decisions already made by specialist adjudicators, tribunals and courts about lot<br />

entitlement disputes. Through its so-called reversion process the former government allowed a single<br />

lot owner in a community title scheme to compel their body corporate to disregard lot entitlement


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adjustment orders issued by independent adjudicators, tribunals and courts and to force the body<br />

corporate to change the scheme’s lot entitlements back to those that applied prior to any and all<br />

adjustment orders.<br />

Regardless of what members think is the fairest way for body corporate expenses to be shared<br />

between unit owners, the former government’s 2011 amendments to the act were an unacceptable<br />

and unfair interference into lawful judicial and quasi-judicial decisions. The bill delivers on our<br />

commitment to deal with the former government’s amendments by bringing an end to the 2011<br />

reversion process and by providing affected bodies corporate with an opportunity and process for<br />

reinstating the contribution schedule lot entitlements that were deemed to be appropriate for the<br />

scheme by a specialist adjudicator, tribunal or court. In short, the Newman government is determined<br />

to restore integrity and respect to judicial and quasi-judicial decisions about lot entitlement disputes.<br />

The committee has made eight recommendations about the bill. The government supports four<br />

of the recommendations, partially supports two recommendations and does not support two<br />

recommendations. First off, the committee recommended that I table the government’s plan for<br />

dealing with broader lot entitlement issues in the first sitting week of 2013 followed by further<br />

legislation by 30 June 2013. The government agrees with the committee that further policy analysis is<br />

needed when it comes to contribution schedule lot entitlements. That is why in my explanatory<br />

speech I foreshadowed a number of lot entitlement issues including consideration of options for<br />

reintroducing a process for adjusting lot entitlements. I continue to be committed to that process.<br />

However, it is critical to address the more objectionable parts of the former government’s<br />

2011 amendments to the act as a matter of priority.<br />

Following debate of this bill, the government will consider the broader review of lot entitlements,<br />

the timing of which will be decided in the context of the government’s other policy and legislative<br />

priorities. The committee has recommended that the bill be passed by the Legislative Assembly with<br />

significant amendments. As members would expect, the government endorses the committee’s view<br />

that the bill should be passed. The government also supports the committee’s recommendation that<br />

the bill retain provisions discontinuing the 2011 reversion process established by the former<br />

government. However, the government does not support the committee’s recommendation that the<br />

bill be amended to omit those clauses providing for the reinstatement of a community titles scheme’s<br />

last adjustment order entitlements. A key policy objective of the bill is to provide bodies corporate<br />

affected by the former government’s 2011 reversion process with an opportunity and process for<br />

reinstating the lot entitlements for the scheme that had previously been determined by a specialist<br />

adjudicator, tribunal or court. Omitting the reinstatement provisions from the bill would provide<br />

affected bodies corporate with no real remedy for the impacts of the former government’s unfair and<br />

inappropriate reversion process.<br />

In terms of the committee’s other suggested changes to the bill, the government supports the<br />

proposed amendments which will improve the process contained in the bill for giving effect to lot<br />

entitlement adjustment orders. These include clearer and stricter time frames for particular steps a<br />

body corporate must undertake in reinstating the last adjustment order entitlements for the scheme.<br />

They also include amendments to ensure that adjustment orders deemed to be pre-commencement<br />

adjustment actions and suspended under the 2011 amendments are able to be given effect in<br />

accordance with the provisions of the bill. Accordingly, I will be moving amendments during<br />

consideration in detail of this bill to give effect to those suggested changes.<br />

The government does not support the committee’s recommendation that the bill be amended to<br />

facilitate the reimbursement of fees and charges paid by community titles schemes in relation to an<br />

incomplete reversion process. I understand that there are very few schemes, approximately five, that<br />

may have incurred fees and charges in relation to an incomplete reversion process. The government<br />

does not consider it is necessary to amend the bill for the purpose of refunding fees and charges<br />

relating to an incomplete reversion process. Of course, any of those affected schemes are entitled to<br />

apply for an ex gratia refund from the relevant departments in relation to fees and charges if they wish<br />

to do so and those requests will be considered on their individual merits.<br />

The government notes and supports the committee’s recommendation that the provisions of<br />

the bill clarifying jurisdictional matters for certain lot entitlements disputes be retained. The<br />

government also supports the committee’s recommendation that the bill retain amendments removing<br />

cumbersome and unnecessary disclosure requirements that simply serve to complicate the sale of<br />

lots in community titles schemes. This is an important step in the government’s continuing<br />

commitment to reducing the unnecessary red tape and regulation that has been allowed to burden<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>’s economy. I commend the bill to the House.


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Mr PITT (Mulgrave—ALP) (10.46 pm): I rise to make a contribution to the debate on the Body<br />

Corporate and Community Management and Other Legislation Bill 2012. I would like to put on the<br />

record from the outset that the opposition will not be supporting this bill. This bill was introduced into<br />

this House by the Attorney-General on 14 September 2012. There was no real warning before the<br />

election that the government proposed to make changes to body corporate levies before the election.<br />

No <strong>Queensland</strong>er got to vote on the basis of what the government is now doing to body corporate<br />

laws. As the explanatory notes clearly state, no community consultation has been undertaken on the<br />

bill. Then out of the blue the Premier announced that his minister was going to sort out this mess left<br />

by Labor in the area of body corporate law and pledged that the incoming minister would work very<br />

closely with stakeholders and unit owners to achieve this. Then the bill was introduced. No<br />

consultation took place at all beforehand.<br />

Submissions were invited on the bill, which closed on 19 October. The amount of community<br />

concern over the bill was evidenced by the fact that there were 274 submissions received by the<br />

committee. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the committee and its staff for their hard work<br />

and diligence in tackling this inquiry into what is a complex question.<br />

There are a number of issues with the bill that I intend to canvass. The first is the question of<br />

the uncertainty created by the bill. This bill’s aim is to overturn the amendments made by then<br />

minister Lawlor in relation to body corporate lot entitlements. These amendments were made after<br />

extensive consultation with the public and all stakeholders. The then government released a<br />

discussion paper in December 2008, entitled Sharing expenses in community titles schemes: A<br />

discussion paper on lot entitlements under the Body Corporate and Community Management Act<br />

1997, for public discussion and comment. Submissions to the discussion paper closed in late<br />

February 2009. Then on 12 August 2010 the former minister released public consultation drafts of the<br />

Body Corporate and Community Management Amendment Bill 2010 and the accompanying<br />

explanatory notes. Submissions were again invited on the draft bill, which closed on 23 September<br />

2010. Minister Lawlor’s approach was in stark contrast to the approach of this government. As the<br />

committee pointed out in its report—<br />

The Committee accepts the Department’s statement that the issue of contribution schedule lot entitlements has been<br />

considered on numerous occasions in the past. However, given the short timeframe since the commencement of the<br />

2011 amendments and the fact that those amendments had sunset provisions, the Committee understands that many<br />

stakeholders would not have expected another change to the legislation so soon.<br />

Given the Premier’s earlier comments that he expected the Attorney-General to work closely with stakeholders and unit owners<br />

to fix the perceived problems, the Committee accepts that many stakeholders have considered the current Bill and its specific<br />

policy objectives to be a surprise when it was introduced.<br />

As the committee later commented—<br />

The strata title property market cannot continue to be subjected to what is now seemingly regular change and upheaval.<br />

When he introduced the bill, the Attorney said in his explanatory speech—<br />

that the government will now look at the broader issues around contribution schedule lot entitlements. We will look to the future.<br />

This bill does not deal with that matter—it relates to the immediate problem that we have been left by the former Labor<br />

government to deal with—but the government is only too conscious that there are many schemes out there with manifestly<br />

unequal lot entitlements.<br />

Exactly what are these situations with manifestly unequal lot entitlements? The Attorney chose<br />

not to elaborate on those, the ones that now he is seeking to undo, but I am more than happy to<br />

elaborate. This is a situation where a unit owner might live in a small unit on a lower floor. A smaller<br />

unit means potential for fewer residents using body corporate facilities. A smaller unit also means less<br />

windows to clean, less walls to paint, less areas that might need repairs, less area potential to claim<br />

on insurance. In fact, it is a lesser burden as a whole. Contrast this with a penthouse owner who has<br />

the reverse situation: a much larger area and, therefore, a much larger drain on the resources of the<br />

body corporate for the converse reasons I have just outlined. Could it possibly be considered fair that<br />

their contributions to body corporate levies be equal? Yet the penthouse owner could have applied<br />

under the act to make this so and their levies could be reduced from around $40,000 per year to<br />

$10,000, and the smaller unit owner’s levy be increased from $5,000 to $10,00 per annum. This could<br />

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Housing affordability is an important issue for <strong>Queensland</strong>ers. This includes not only the purchase<br />

price of housing, but also the associated costs that accompany it. It is particularly important when a<br />

government is encouraging people to live in higher density housing in highly populated urban areas.<br />

On another example, a penthouse owner purchases the unit next to them or beneath them and<br />

then applies to have the lots amalgamated. Once they may have been paying two lots of a $40,000<br />

levy. They amalgamate their lots to be one lot and then apply for a readjustment of lot entitlements to<br />

ensure they are equal. Then they pay the same levies as a smaller unit owner. People have tried to<br />

denounce these examples as being too emotive and setting penthouse owners as the bad guys in the<br />

scenario. That is not what we have been trying to do. These are examples of how the inequality can<br />

affect people and make very real changes to their lives. Can members imagine being an elderly<br />

resident of a home unit who has to move because they are on a fixed income and cannot afford the<br />

changes to the levies?<br />

However, if people do not like those examples, there are many more. What about a plan that<br />

has mixed use, such as residential and commercial, in one complex? Should their levies be identical?<br />

What about the situation where a lot has been changed from commercial to residential use without<br />

the resulting cost impact on the body corporate having been recognised? What about the opposite of<br />

that, where a lot is changed from residential to commercial use and the levy remained the same, even<br />

though the call on body corporate expenses would have increased significantly? What about a<br />

scheme that has mixed town house and unit developments on the one plan? Should the unit owners<br />

in high-rise buildings pay the same levy as the owners of the town houses where the owners of the<br />

town houses are responsible for their maintenance and the unit owners are the ones making the lion’s<br />

share of the call on body corporate expenses?<br />

I question the logic of the approach of this government. If the government believes there is a<br />

problem that requires extensive community discussion and also acknowledges that there are many<br />

schemes that have manifestly unequal lot entitlements, why make these changes now? All this will do<br />

is create uncertainty in the market. The sale of units will be affected because people will be reluctant<br />

to buy a unit if they have no idea into the future how their levies will be calculated. The amendments<br />

by former minister Lawlor simply reinstated owners to the position they were in previously when they<br />

knew what their obligation would be when they purchased the unit or, if they had carried out due<br />

diligence, would have been aware of the original scheme for determining levies. The opposition<br />

cannot see the need to make these changes now. If the government is intent on conducting yet<br />

another inquiry into body corporate levies that is one thing, but to make changes that could possibly<br />

be undone as a result of the review is a recipe for chaos in the industry.<br />

The real question to be asked here is, does the bill fix whatever the government perceives to<br />

be a problem with the law relating to body corporate levies? The answer is a resounding and<br />

emphatic no! In the closing of his introductory speech, the Attorney-General stated—<br />

Body corporate legislation has long been used as a political football, particularly by the Australian Labor Party, but we will not<br />

be a government that does that. We want to be a government that gets the balance right and fixes this mess once and for all.<br />

Unfortunately, the committee considered the effect of the bill is exactly the opposite of the<br />

situation described by the Attorney-General. In the committee’s view, the bill does not fix the mess<br />

and, to take the analogy used by the Attorney further, the effect it does have is that of shifting the<br />

goalposts once again. What is the effect of this bill in relation to body corporate levies? The effect on<br />

the 2011 amendments is twofold: firstly, to stop further reversions from occurring and, secondly to<br />

allow for the reversal of reversions that have occurred. I will start with the second.<br />

The effect of this second limb is to provide that, as the Attorney-General said in his explanatory<br />

speech, a lot owner can submit a request to undo a reversion and the body corporate or committee<br />

for the body corporate must undertake a process to undo the reversion. The government has<br />

undertaken to conduct a wider review of body corporate lot entitlements. Many of the organisations<br />

that made submissions to the committee, including the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society, are opposed to this<br />

part of the bill. As the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society submission states—<br />

These provisions restrict the outcome of a reversion application and in effect make it an offence for a body corporate or<br />

committee to decide to reject the application. These provisions do not have sufficient regard to the rights and liabilities of<br />

individuals, are inconsistent with the principles of natural justice and are an inappropriate use of criminal sanction.<br />

As the Australian College of Community Lawyers Incorporated submitted.<br />

... the College is of the view that to ‘reverse the reversal’ process is not good law and urges the Government to put a<br />

moratorium on the reversal process until a just and equitable system for the setting and adjustment of contribution schedule lot<br />

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It seems to the opposition to be a preposterous situation when a reversal process under the<br />

2011 amendments can be undone before the government has decided how it will approach the<br />

broader issue of body corporate lot entitlements, and we are not alone in this view. We stand in the<br />

company of the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society and the Australian College of Community Lawyers<br />

Incorporated, as I have already pointed out. We also stand in the company of the Legal Affairs and<br />

Community Safety Committee. The committee stated—<br />

... the Committee has had difficulty in accepting the need to enable the unwinding of the current reversion processes and allow<br />

for further adjustments to lot entitlements to occur as an interim measure prior to the Government’s broader review.<br />

It therefore recommended the removal from the bill of the process that will reverse current 2011<br />

reversions. I urge the government to support this recommendation for, at least if nothing else, the<br />

stability of the industry.<br />

I now turn to the first limb. At first glance, this is simple. It will stop people from applying to have<br />

lot entitlement changes made under the 1997 act reversed. However, what about applications already<br />

on foot? If passed, the relevant part of the bill in its current form will be deemed to have commenced<br />

on the day it was introduced. The reversion processes under the 2011 amendments can still take<br />

place, but if the bill is passed in its current form these processes will be deemed to be incomplete. All<br />

current reversion processes are therefore effectively in limbo until the outcome of the bill is known.<br />

The Registrar of Titles told the committee it will continue to accept requests to lodge a new<br />

CMS, but not effect registration until the bill progresses through the parliament. The committee held<br />

concerns about the cost-effectiveness of throwing away the steps taken up until now in the process<br />

that will be deemed invalid, despite complying with all aspects of the law as it currently stands.<br />

Recommendation 4 of the committee states—<br />

The Committee recommends that the Bill be amended to include provisions to reimburse any Government fee or charge<br />

imposed in relation to a reversion process that is deemed to be an incomplete reversion process under this Bill.<br />

Better still, just do not amend the act until the review process has been completed. That way,<br />

money will not be wasted in making applications and paying for registration fees in the likes of a<br />

process that will retrospectively be negative.<br />

The bill also removes the requirement introduced by the 2011 amendments for sellers of units<br />

to provide purchasers with a copy of the scheme’s community management statement and the<br />

disclosure statement. The stated purpose of this is to reduce the regulatory burden. When<br />

these amendments were introduced, the stated purpose was to enable lot owners to make an<br />

informed decision when purchasing a lot in the scheme and to reduce the need for adjustments of<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlements.<br />

When speaking of the merit of the disclosure requirements in his submission to the committee,<br />

Mr John McDonald of Robinson & Robinson Lawyers stated—<br />

The principal merit is that the standard contract does not provide for the nature of the property to be described eg. Home unit-2<br />

car spaces, 2 storage spaces, etc. Because of this the buyer does not know what he is contracting to buy (as opposed to the<br />

property he has seen) until searches are carried out.<br />

If for example a unit is shown with two car spaces and the CMS only gives one to the buyer, then the buyer is out in the cold.<br />

I do not think anyone on the government side of the House would argue that this is a fair situation.<br />

The <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society advocated for full disclosure to owners, but proposed requiring<br />

the CMS to be available online on a government register so prospective purchasers could inspect<br />

them prior to purchase. The committee recommends this proposal should be considered as part of<br />

the broader review. If that is so, why would we remove a measure designed to protect purchasers<br />

without having some alternatives in place? If the requirements are removed pending this broader<br />

review, there will be no such protection. Therefore, the opposition is of the view that the status quo<br />

should be maintained at least until the broader review is conducted and the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law Society<br />

proposal and other options that are raised could be looked at in that context. This is not an area that<br />

has received much attention from stakeholders and the committee itself commented on the fact that<br />

few submissions referred to this aspect of the amendments.<br />

The final aspect of the bill that I wish to comment on is the changes to give greater consistency<br />

in the resolution of disputes. The jurisdictional changes largely reflect the other changes in the bill,<br />

and are consequential on many of them. As I have indicated, we do not support many of the changes,<br />

and therefore will not be supporting the ones that relate to those. However, there are also some<br />

amendments to dispute provisions in relation to lot entitlement adjustments by resolution without<br />

dissent. Because these disputes can be of a complex nature, the QCAT may well be the most<br />

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As the explanatory notes provide, the 2011 amendments made specific provision for a body<br />

corporate to adjust the contribution schedule lot entitlements for the scheme by resolution without<br />

dissent. However, the 2011 amendments did not specifically provide for resolution of disputes about<br />

these adjustments by a specialist adjudicator or QCAT. It is inappropriate for these disputes to be<br />

resolved by a department adjudicator because of the complex nature of these disputes.<br />

To ensure appropriate and consistent dispute resolution about contribution schedule lot<br />

entitlement adjustments under the act, the bill provides for disputes about adjustments of contribution<br />

schedule lot entitlements by resolution without dissent to be resolved by a specialist adjudicator or<br />

QCAT. In contrast, disputes about procedural aspects of a general meeting called to consider a<br />

motion to adjust the contribution schedule lot entitlements may continue to be resolved by any dispute<br />

resolution process under chapter 6 of the act, including department adjudication. The opposition<br />

would support this aspect of the amendments.<br />

As I said we will not be supporting this bill. We look forward to hearing the contribution of<br />

government members. We have made our position very clear. We thought the bill that was put<br />

forward to the House under the previous government by then minister Lawlor was the basis of where<br />

people should be going into the future. We think this is going to cause unnecessary upheaval at a<br />

time when people require stability in this market. We will not be supporting the bill.<br />

Mr BERRY (Ipswich—LNP) (11.01 pm): I rise to prompt the passage of this bill through this<br />

House. It is with a good deal of history that I speak on the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012.<br />

I have been a lawyer since 1976. I saw this bill as a shining star on a very dark night because<br />

we as <strong>Queensland</strong>ers were seen by others as being from a backwater state. However, this bill really<br />

brought us into the new century. I remember going to a lecture in 1997 and dealing with new terms—<br />

things that we never considered before—such as a combination of residences in commercial areas<br />

and volumetric plans. These were concepts that we had never heard before. This is a bill that touches<br />

on these matters. Since 1997 this is a bill that lawyers have accepted and worked with. Even the<br />

general public has understood its effect and consequences.<br />

The 2011 amendments introduced what I would consider to be a black hole. I understand what<br />

the Manager of Opposition Business has said, but, as I understand it from my reading of the 2011<br />

amendments, the Law Society was not in favour of the amendments. There are reasons as to why<br />

that was the case.<br />

This bill deals with three requirements. It deals with the contribution schedule lot entitlement,<br />

disclosure statements and also judicial aspects. I will take the easier part first. I was a practising<br />

lawyer under the various schemes preceding the 1997 BCCM Act, as we call it, but also post the<br />

2011 amendments. What people really expect not only of lawyers but also of politicians, of legislators,<br />

is a degree of certainty. It is important for all of us to be able to work within a system and for<br />

legislators to fully understand and appreciate the fact that we just cannot change laws for the sake of<br />

changing them.<br />

Perhaps that is a segue into the speech of the then minister for tourism and fair trading,<br />

Mr Lawlor. After reading report No. 11 of the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee from<br />

November 2012, I was perplexed by some of his comments, particularly having regard to what the<br />

Manager of Opposition Business has said.<br />

Mr Rickuss interjected.<br />

Mr BERRY: I take that interjection only because I wish to correct the record. It is white not<br />

grey. You have a little way to go, Mr Rickuss.<br />

What the then minister said has a lot of import. After discussing why this amendment was<br />

necessary and good for most <strong>Queensland</strong>ers, he said—<br />

At the outset, I acknowledge some of the proposed amendments will not receive universal acclaim.<br />

I would respectfully suggest at this point that in fact there was no universal acclaim. In fact, there was<br />

not even a majority of views at that point in time. He goes onto say—<br />

There are many who will decry the rationale and policy intent behind this bill.<br />

Indeed that was the case. He goes onto say—<br />

I am not entirely unsympathetic to those views, but difficult problems sometimes require difficult solutions. If we do nothing,<br />

then the community titles sector will become increasingly unstable. This bill provides certainty for the marketplace which will<br />

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The reason I am perplexed by that is that I would have thought in ordinary conveyancing terms<br />

when a person goes and sees their solicitor and carries out the necessary investigations and they are<br />

told of their contribution schedule lot entitlement and their interest schedule lot entitlement they have<br />

a pretty good idea what their expenses are going to be. How much fairer could it be to simply say that<br />

in the 1997 act it really did get it right?<br />

From 1997 to 2011 there was no appreciable difference in the market. In fact, this act catered<br />

for the ability of the market in units to flourish. Ipswich and many other places around this great state<br />

of ours have developed along these lines. As I said in my initial statement, the reality is that this act,<br />

to which this bill refers, got it right. We in fact now have a world-class act. We need this bill to really<br />

get it back to a first-class act. That is the reason I fully support these amendments.<br />

One thing that really stuck with me when reading the report was the then minister—<br />

Mr Knuth interjected.<br />

Mr BERRY: I might take that interjection. Thank you so much, member for Dalrymple. I do not<br />

often hear him, but the fact that he has made a contribution to this debate—<br />

Mr Hopper: What about the equalisation part of this bill? Speak about that.<br />

Mr BERRY: I do not take that interjection. This bill is about winners and losers. I appreciate<br />

that there is an audience to which the member for Dalrymple is catering.<br />

Mr Hopper interjected.<br />

Mr BERRY: The position is that when you buy—<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Ruthenberg): Order! Member for Condamine!<br />

Mr BERRY: The position clearly is that when a person buys a unit they know—<br />

Mr Hopper interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Member for Condamine, you will be warned under the<br />

standing orders next time. Your turn is coming. Please respect the speaker on his feet. I call the<br />

member for Ipswich.<br />

Mr BERRY: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. The position is that the opposition to the 2011<br />

amendments was indicated in very clear terms, and I refer to the comments of Mrs Stuckey, the then<br />

shadow minister, where she said—<br />

I turn now to the provisions of this legislation that have caused enormous controversy. This bill proposes that community titles<br />

schemes established prior to the commencement of this bill that have been subject to adjustment orders will have the ability to<br />

revert their lot entitlements to their original settings prior to any and all adjustment orders. To facilitate a reversion of<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlements the bill provides that, if a lot owner submits a motion to be considered at a general<br />

meeting of the body corporate requesting the contribution schedule lot entitlements for all the lots in the scheme to be reverted<br />

to the original contribution schedule lot entitlements in place before any and all adjustment orders were made, it is deemed that<br />

the body corporate passed the motion. The body corporate will then be required to give effect to the motion by reverting the<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlements to their original settings, subject to any subdivisions, amalgamations, boundary changes<br />

or material changes.<br />

That is as effective today in summarising what this is all about as it was then in the debate on<br />

the 2011 amendments. The position is that this bill reverts the position to when it was equitable—that<br />

is, and I repeat: when a person buys a lot, they know what they are buying.<br />

When that act was passed, the then minister for Tourism did not take due cognisance of those<br />

who were against the provisions and did not take cognisance of the Law Society and other<br />

submitters. The reality of life is that he was battling upstream with an amendment which really was<br />

unfair to all, and it continues to be. Only this bill will effectively right the situation, not only in respect of<br />

the contribution schedule lot entitlements but also in relation to disclosure statements and the judicial<br />

review.<br />

The reversion in relation to the disclosure statements—a matter that is certainly within my<br />

practical knowledge—is a very necessary and worthwhile amendment, because in all the<br />

conveyancing I have done in relation to lot entitlements I cannot remember a time when a disclosure<br />

statement was ever filled out. The reality of life is that the real estate salesman relied upon the owner<br />

to get the information. Sometimes the owner did not know. So, effectively, when a purchaser was<br />

buying a unit, an apartment, the net effect of it was that that statement was never filled out. Usually<br />

‘let the buyer search’ or something of that nature was put onto the document. It was a totally useless<br />

piece of paper, not dissimilar, I might respectfully suggest, to warning statements. Have I ever spoken<br />

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it? The reality of it is that it is a complex document, just as this is a complex document. The position is<br />

that doing away with the disclosure statement will make the job of the lawyer easier. It will certainly<br />

cut down the cost and the time it takes to have these generally complicated matters resolved.<br />

In the disclosure statement there are a lot of matters, including having to get a community<br />

management statement for the scheme, when in fact that is sometimes 60 or 70 pages. The result of<br />

it is that, even though that document is attached to the contract, the lawyer needs to obtain the search<br />

in any event. You cannot necessarily rely on a document where it is supplied by another party. It<br />

would be negligent to do so. So you need to do a search anyway. So what effectively is happening is<br />

we have a duplication of processes. It seems to me that when you effect a change which streamlines<br />

a system, makes it more efficient and allows—<br />

Mr Knuth interjected.<br />

Mr BERRY: Excuse me.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Ruthenberg): Order! Member for Dalrymple, you will be warned<br />

under standing orders next time. The speaker is not taking interjections. Member for Ipswich, you<br />

have the call.<br />

Mr BERRY: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. The position is that disclosure statements really<br />

complicate contracts. It does not provide any equity. It creates more red tape. This is about reducing<br />

red tape. This is about making sure that purchasers and lawyers are all doing what they are required<br />

to do.<br />

Lastly I wish to talk about the fact that matters are now determined before QCAT and not by<br />

resolutions which in fact are not voted upon. You could not possibly ask for anything fairer than that. I<br />

have had a person approach me in the last four weeks in relation to this bill and the reality of life is<br />

that this person is absolutely on the edge of their seat waiting for this bill to be passed. That is the<br />

reality of it. This is universally accepted in Ipswich. We do not have a lot of high-rise but we do have<br />

some. Quite frankly, this bill will bring back equity to those people who understand what the system is<br />

about.<br />

I take this opportunity to commend my predecessor and the committee members in relation to<br />

the report they prepared. I think it is a well-considered report, and I firmly believe that this is a step in<br />

the right direction. I also thank the Attorney-General for making sure this bill progressed to the point<br />

where it is able to be looked at within our first 12 months of coming to power. It is the right move. I<br />

know it is not the final move. There are matters that will need consideration in due course, but the<br />

reality of it is that the majority of <strong>Queensland</strong>ers will applaud this bill. It really is going to achieve the<br />

object of getting everything back on track. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Hon. JH LANGBROEK (Surfers Paradise—LNP) (Minister for Education, Training and<br />

Employment) (11.17 pm): I begin my contribution to the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill by taking up the theme of the honourable<br />

member for Ipswich, who is the chair of the relevant committee, to note that this is a work in progress.<br />

It is not going to fix all the problems, and this is something that I have been speaking about with a<br />

number of constituents in my electorate who have expressed concerns about aspects of this<br />

legislation overall and the fact that this is something that we committed in opposition to rectifying. But,<br />

as the honourable member for Ipswich just mentioned, there is not much point in someone being able<br />

to take a motion to a meeting and move it without any dissent when that is overriding the actions of a<br />

properly constituted tribunal. That is the principle that we have had to correct before the Attorney-<br />

General moves on to the second aspect, which is the commitment that I will speak to later—and that<br />

is to make sure we get this legislation right.<br />

Even though this is a vexed issue, it is very hard to please everyone, as we have already heard<br />

from the contributions that have been made. But it is very obvious that the amendments in 2011 have<br />

not helped the situation. It is something I spoke about at that time, when the honourable member for<br />

Currumbin was the shadow minister. We opposed it in opposition and we are here today to right the<br />

wrong that was created that has exacerbated the situation and has led to a lot of unease and a lot of<br />

heartache amongst constituents of mine, as I have a high proportion of bodies corporate in my<br />

electorate.<br />

In April 2011 the Bligh Labor government amended the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management and Other Legislation Amendment Act so that lot owners affected by a contribution<br />

schedule lot entitlements adjustment order could have their scheme’s lot entitlements reverted to their<br />

original setting. Labor’s 2011 amendments created a flawed system that needed to be fixed.


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I recall speaking in this place on Labor’s BCCM Bill in 2011. In that debate I said—<br />

The real problem is that this bill was supposed to deliver much but in reality it delivers little. It is a bill that was intended to<br />

satisfy many but will, if passed, satisfy few. It is a bill which was supposed to deliver certainty to unit residents and investors<br />

alike but which delivers only more uncertainty.<br />

...<br />

... I am constantly reminded that for many people the dream of unit living has turned into a nightmare. From constant<br />

representations made to my electorate office and the fact that my filing cabinets are overflowing with such complaints ...<br />

As honourable members would be aware, this bill is particularly significant to my electorate of<br />

Surfers Paradise and I have received significant correspondence on this bill. But one of the things I<br />

will not tolerate is people trying to threaten me about my future or the future of this government, which<br />

was elected with a significant mandate to fix these issues and others. That is what I object to. I have a<br />

significant number of constituents who via a concerted media campaign have tried to suggest that<br />

either my future or the future of the government is in danger if we do not do what they want us to do.<br />

That is typical of the members opposite—<br />

Mr Byrne: It is democracy.<br />

Mr LANGBROEK: It is not democracy, member for Rockhampton, when people threaten—<br />

when people suggest that if we as a government do not do what they want us to do we will suffer as a<br />

consequence. I am here to say—there are some here in the gallery tonight; they know who they are—<br />

that those people can do whatever they like, whether they be failed council candidates or people who<br />

have come and said, ‘This is something you must do because you are in the LNP and I voted for you<br />

or I handed out for you.’ They can do whatever they like if they want to suggest things like that.<br />

All I can say is that I will not be listening to those sorts of emotive statements or taking note of<br />

the fact that they get the member for Rockhampton to come down to speak to their meetings—or the<br />

members from the back corner who love to carry on in the way that they do. They can do whatever<br />

they like with those people, but I will act on behalf of the people of Surfers Paradise and the majority<br />

of people who are members of bodies corporate. We will do the right thing on behalf of those people<br />

and we will do it properly. We will make sure that we come up with the best result. That is why I want<br />

to make that point tonight very stridently.<br />

It is all very well for expedient people from the Katter party, which has refugees from other<br />

political parties, to go down there in a short-term way saying, ‘Maybe I’ll get them to vote for me here,’<br />

or for a new member who has been in this place for five minutes to go down to the Gold Coast, trying<br />

to ride on the coat-tails, thinking ‘Maybe this will get us from seven to 70.’ I do not think it is going to<br />

get them from seven to 70. They can do whatever they like, but we will make sure we do this properly.<br />

I will make sure that I work for the Attorney-General to make sure that we do get a good result. That is<br />

the message I have for those opposite and those who think they can ride the coat-tails of the people<br />

who are out there—the populists, the people who think they can just jump on some sort of<br />

bandwagon at the last moment because it might help them.<br />

This legislation is very significant to my electorate. I know that the Legal Affairs and Community<br />

Safety Committee undertook a detailed examination of the bill because prior to April 2011 lot owners<br />

could seek an adjustment to their scheme’s contribution schedule lot entitlements by seeking an order<br />

from a specialist adjudicator, the <strong>Queensland</strong> Civil and Administrative Tribunal—QCAT—or the<br />

District Court. A reversion overruled orders of a court, tribunal or specialist adjudicator. There was no<br />

right of appeal for anyone in the community titles scheme who did not want the reversion to take<br />

place. This meant that the system allowed one person to influence the arrangement for an entire<br />

building without challenge.<br />

This system was inherently flawed. Under the Labor Party’s law, a member of a body corporate<br />

could submit a motion to the body corporate committee or a general meeting to overrule the lot<br />

entitlements that had been decided by a specialist adjudicator, tribunal or court and require the<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlements to be changed back to those originally set by the developer.<br />

Under the Labor laws, other lot owners had no right to challenge or vote against such a motion and<br />

the body corporate committee was required to implement the reversion process. The system was<br />

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This bill aims to right Labor’s wrongs and restore fairness and independence. We need to<br />

restore a process to allow reversions made under the 2011 amendments to be undone and to enable<br />

bodies corporate affected by the 2011 amendments to reinstate the lot entitlements that were<br />

previously decided upon for the scheme not by an individual with vested interest but by a specialist<br />

adjudicator, tribunal or court.<br />

This bill removes unnecessary disclosure requirements imposed on sellers of lots in community<br />

titles schemes. The Newman government has introduced legislative amendments to the BCCM Act<br />

which will only affect those community schedule lot entitlements adjusted by an order of a specialist<br />

adjudicator, tribunal or court prior to April 2011 and then using Labor Party amendments of 2011<br />

reverting to the developer’s original schedule between April 2011 and when our recent bill was<br />

introduced. This bill also ensures that no more reversions can take place.<br />

It is expected that of the approximately 41,000 registered community titles schemes in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> this bill will affect fewer than 130. A CSLE determines a lot owner’s contribution to the<br />

maintenance and upkeep of the common property of a body corporate. The government does not set<br />

body corporate fees. The legislation simply sets out the framework for determining how unit owners<br />

share body corporate expenses.<br />

The LNP’s position on this issue was no secret: we opposed Labor’s 2011 amendments at the<br />

time. That remained our position right through to the state election. Now it is part of the challenge of<br />

undoing Labor’s mess—the Gordian knot that is Labor’s fiscal and legislative mismanagement that<br />

resulted in crushing debt, increased cost of living and reams of red tape that stifled economic growth.<br />

Our government has a mandate to reduce red tape and regulation. This seeks to remove<br />

unnecessary disclosure requirements imposed on sellers of lots in community titles schemes. It will<br />

streamline the contract process and reduce conveyancing costs including removing the need to<br />

provide a copy of the community management statement with the disclosure statements for the sale<br />

of units in existing community titles schemes.<br />

I seek to highlight the fact, especially for my constituents, that the current bill deals only with<br />

undoing the reversions that took place under the April 2011 amendments and providing a process for<br />

bodies corporate affected by the 2011 amendments to reinstate the lot entitlements that were<br />

previously decided by a specialist adjudicator, tribunal or court.<br />

The Attorney-General has announced that we will be the government to fix the body corporate<br />

mess once and for all. It has been used as a political football. We will not be a government that does<br />

that. We want to be a government that gets the balance right and fixes this mess once and for all. I<br />

welcome and look forward to a greater review of the act. Until then, I acknowledge the importance of<br />

passing this current piece of legislation. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Miss BARTON (Broadwater—LNP) (11.27 pm): It gives me great pleasure to rise this evening<br />

to contribute to the debate on the Body Corporate and Community Management and Other<br />

Legislation Amendment Bill. Like my colleague the Minister for Education and member for Surfers<br />

Paradise, I, too, have many bodies corporate in my electorate. In fact, I live in one myself. I was<br />

thinking about it the other day, and I think I have more than 250, which means that I have obviously<br />

received a lot of perspectives on this particular bill. I am aware that it is a very emotive issue.<br />

I was a member of the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee. Indeed, I still am. It is<br />

interesting that I was able to participate in the committee’s inquiry. As members of the committee<br />

saw, this is obviously a piece of legislation that engendered much discussion and debate in our<br />

community. Indeed, the committee received something in the range of 300 submissions. We held a<br />

public inquiry at which we heard from many interested parties, some who were for the legislation and<br />

some who objected to the legislation.<br />

I think at the end of the day what is really important and what we need to realise is that Labor<br />

failed in 2011 when they introduced their amendments to the body corporate legislation. The Newman<br />

government has an obligation to fix the problem. All Labor tried to do was put a bandaid over it. What<br />

the Newman government is focused on is finding the solution and working with the community to<br />

revise the legislation. That is why I think it is so very important that the Attorney-General and Minister<br />

for Justice has committed to a review of the Body Corporate and Community Management Act this<br />

year. I think it is a fantastic opportunity for us as members of parliament to really delve into this piece<br />

of legislation.


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The reality is that when we make changes to the body corporate legislation we are not going to<br />

be able to please everyone. When we were discussing this legislation late last year I spoke to the<br />

member for Warrego, who in 1997 was the minister responsible for the Borbidge<br />

government’s amendments. He said that he had particular troubles trying to get his head around<br />

some of the issues because, unless you live in a building operated by a body corporate or you are<br />

part of a community that has many bodies corporate, it can be very difficult to get your head around<br />

all of these complex issues. If the House will indulge me I thought I would provide a little bit of<br />

perspective, as someone who lives in a building operated by a body corporate.<br />

I had the great pleasure of being able to purchase my own home late last year. It was a very<br />

exciting time for me. In addition to all of those really exciting things like deciding whether or not I<br />

would get a front loader or top loader washing machine, whether or not I really needed a dryer,<br />

whether or not I could convince my mother to still do my ironing if I paid her 50c a shirt or whether or<br />

not I should get a double-door fridge, I realised that I was going to be moving into a community that<br />

was made up of vastly different people and vastly different personalities. That is the reality of bodies<br />

corporate. Everyone who is invested in the body corporate has a different perspective and comes to<br />

the meetings and the body corporate with different points of view and different wants and needs. We<br />

are really seeing that in the debate that we are having at the moment about the body corporate<br />

legislation.<br />

My perspective has shown that there are always going to be people who will invest in certain<br />

issues and debates when it comes to a body corporate. When I was buying my apartment I made a<br />

conscious decision to not buy into an overly developed building or one that had many different<br />

facilities. I tell myself that the reason I bought an apartment without a lift was so that I could get daily<br />

exercise, but I think the reality is I was aware that the more amenities one has in a body corporate the<br />

more difficulties and the more debates you will find you have with your fellow residents. That is why I<br />

think it is so important that we do make sure that we have a very full and frank review of the<br />

legislation this year. That is something that the Attorney-General has committed to and I think that is<br />

fantastic. It is something that is needed. As I said earlier, Labor failed when they amended the body<br />

corporate legislation in 2011. It is not the role of governments to put a bandaid over a problem without<br />

looking for the source of the problem and without trying to find a real solution. The Newman<br />

government is committed to finding a real solution.<br />

I would have at least 250 bodies corporate in my electorate and so my electorate would have<br />

more bodies corporate than this legislation will affect. I appreciate that there are some people who<br />

feel that they might be disadvantaged by this legislation. The reality is that what we as a government<br />

need to do is conduct a wide, wholesale review of this legislation, which is something to which we<br />

have committed, so that we can make sure that people who do live in bodies corporate are able to<br />

talk about the issues that they are having with their fellow residents and are able to fully thrash<br />

everything out and achieve positive outcomes for their particular community.<br />

I must admit that I am particularly lucky. I live in an apartment building that has 12 units and,<br />

thankfully, six of them are 111 square metres and six of them are 109 square metres. I was talking to<br />

the member for Pine Rivers about it. I said that my apartment was 111 square metres and I think he<br />

was a little bit shocked because his property is such that I think his living room is bigger than my<br />

entire apartment. As someone who is living alone and who has bought their first home, I am more<br />

than happy to have something as tiny as 111 square metres.<br />

The member for Surfers Paradise and Minister for Education touched on the fact that so many<br />

people have contacted our offices to talk about their views on this particular bill. Like the member for<br />

Surfers Paradise, I, too, have received suggestions that if the government were not to act in a certain<br />

way people would ensure that I or the member for Surfers Paradise would not be re-elected. That was<br />

a purely nonsensical notion. The suggestion that the member for Surfers Paradise might lose his seat<br />

over what is effectively a minor change to the Body Corporate and Community Management Act is<br />

ridiculous. The reality is that the Newman government is committed to making sure that we deal with<br />

this issue. We have said time and time again that you cannot just put a bandaid over a problem, walk<br />

away and think it is solved. We are committed to making sure that we talk to people. We are<br />

committed to making sure that we find a solution to the problem, and that is one of the things that will<br />

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I, too, was personally affronted by the suggestion that I needed to act a certain way on this<br />

particular legislation to retain my seat. One of the things that I am very conscious of when I stand in<br />

this House to speak to legislation is that I do not speak here for a small, vocal minority; I speak here<br />

for the silent majority, the people of my electorate who put me here to stand up for them on a broad<br />

range of issues. People sent me to this House to decide on education policy and a future for health in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>, so that we can have a tougher stance on law and order, so that we can put more police<br />

on the beat, more doctors and nurses in hospitals and more teachers in schools. I was not sent to this<br />

House so that I could be held to ransom by idle threats from people who think that it is okay to sit in<br />

front of me and tell me that if I do not act a certain way they will ensure that they will see me defeated<br />

and that the LNP members across the Gold Coast are sent packing. The reality is that the voting<br />

public is a hell of a lot more intelligent than that. The voting public make decisions on the basis of<br />

what we as a government do at large, what we as a government do in terms of the economy. The fact<br />

that we are growing a four-pillar economy and the fact that we are getting the state back on track is<br />

what the people of my electorate respond to. That is what the people of the Minister for Education’s<br />

electorate will respond to.<br />

The people of my electorate do not expect me to be weak or to stand down when someone<br />

threatens me. They expect me to stand up on the basis of principle, and the principle is that we need<br />

not put a bandaid over a problem but we need to seek a solution because that is why we are sent to<br />

this place. There are 89 of us here who have an amazing opportunity to see really positive outcomes<br />

for our communities and for our state. We have a fantastic opportunity to work together with the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> Plan when we all go to Mackay on 10 May. We have an amazing opportunity to send a<br />

message to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> that we are not going to look solely at the outside of an issue<br />

or how we might have a quick fix, like Labor might have done in 2011 with then minister Lawlor. We<br />

have an opportunity to say to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> that we give a damn about issues at large,<br />

that we are committed to solving the problem and we are committed to delving into it.<br />

The reality is that we are never going to see a quick fix on body corporate legislation. It is<br />

complex. It is incredibly complicated. I sometimes struggle to get my head around some of the big<br />

issues when we are talking about body corporate legislation. That is why it is so important that the<br />

government is going to be conducting a review into this particular act in 2013. The Attorney-General<br />

has made very clear to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> that he does not want a quick fix. The Attorney-<br />

General has made clear to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> that, like every other piece of legislation that we<br />

bring into this House, it is designed to further us along the path of finding a real solution so that we<br />

can get <strong>Queensland</strong> back on track. We are a great state with a great opportunity. It would sicken me<br />

to think that we would shirk the responsibility that we bear on our shoulders to do great things in this<br />

place and to stand up for our great communities.<br />

We all talk about the fact that we have the best electorate in the world, but the reality is we all<br />

live in the best state of Australia and we all have a fantastic opportunity to do great things in this<br />

place. My grandfather, a former member of this House, and I would be terribly dismayed if I stood up<br />

in this House and I backed down on an issue because I was prepared to respond to idle threats. The<br />

reality is that the Newman government will not be threatened on issues like this. My Gold Coast<br />

colleagues and I will not be threatened by people who think it is okay to come and tell us that if we do<br />

not act in a certain way that is approved by them, the vocal minority, then they will be able to control<br />

our futures.<br />

Those people who are making idle threats on this legislation are not the people who control our<br />

future. The people who control our future are the people of <strong>Queensland</strong>, and in my case they are the<br />

people of Broadwater. I am committed to making sure that we see the economy in Broadwater grow,<br />

that we see the schools in Broadwater continue to thrive, that we see the Gold Coast University<br />

Hospital service the community because that is the right thing to do, that we see the Runaway Bay<br />

and the Southport police stations continue to serve and protect our communities. That is why we are<br />

here. That is our obligation as members of parliament. It is not our obligation to shirk responsibility<br />

and to think that it is okay to just put a bandaid on a problem and think that that solves everything.<br />

We are here to delve into the problem. It is a bit like an onion. You need to peel layers away<br />

every single time you delve into a problem. When Labor looked at this problem in 2011, it did not peel<br />

away any layers. All it did was put a bandaid over the top. The reality is that it failed <strong>Queensland</strong> and<br />

it failed people who live in bodies corporate and we as a government are committed to turning this<br />

around. We are committed to making sure that we deliver for the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> body<br />

corporate legislation that serves them at large. We have an obligation to make sure that we pass<br />

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Minister for Education highlighted that this particular legislation will affect only 130 people in particular<br />

schemes. When we consider that there are more than 40,000 affected in <strong>Queensland</strong>, this legislation<br />

does not have the impact that the scaremongers think it does. It does not have the impact that the<br />

opposition will argue it does. It does not have the impact that those in the Katter party—otherwise<br />

known as the north-west branch of the Labor Party—think it has. It certainly does not have the impact<br />

that the people who make idle threats against me and my colleagues think it has.<br />

We are looking to help a small percentage of people in a broader scheme and we are<br />

committed to, throughout the year, focusing on the scheme at large and helping the 40,000 people<br />

who live in bodies corporate across <strong>Queensland</strong>. That is why I think it is a great shame that the<br />

opposition and the Katter party cannot come to the table to work with us as we work to find a solution<br />

to the problem. The reality is that the opposition and the Katter party do not care about solutions and<br />

they do not care about problems. All they care about is how it looks in the media. All they care about<br />

is how they can get a simple grab on the six o’clock news when members of the government only<br />

care about the future of <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Miss BARTON: We are focused on delivering real solutions once we identify the problems,<br />

because that is our role.<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Dr Robinson): Order! There are too many interjections and there is<br />

too much noise in the House. The member has the call.<br />

Miss BARTON: Thank you for your protection, Mr Deputy Speaker.<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order!<br />

Miss BARTON: Again, Mr Deputy Speaker, thank you so very much for your protection. It is a<br />

great shame that members of the north-west branch of the Labor Party are not prepared to listen to<br />

what people in bodies corporate have to say. As I said, I have the added advantage of living in one<br />

myself and am truly aware of the challenges that will be faced as we go forward with this full review.<br />

This is the solution to a problem that has been identified in the meantime. We have identified that<br />

there is a problem moving forward and that is why we are going to conduct a full-scale review. That is<br />

why we will not be held to ransom by idle threats. That is why we will not shirk our responsibilities as<br />

the government of <strong>Queensland</strong> to make sure that we govern for all <strong>Queensland</strong>, to make sure that we<br />

govern for the silent majority so that we might see a better outcome for those 40,000 people who live<br />

in bodies corporate right across this great state. We are a great state with great opportunity and we<br />

have a fantastic opportunity to really achieve a very positive outcome throughout this year when it<br />

comes to the Body Corporate and Community Management Act, and that is what the Newman<br />

government is committed to doing. That is what we will do. I commend this bill to the House.<br />

Mr HOPPER (Condamine—KAP) (11.44 pm): Tonight we have seen everything. We saw the<br />

address from the member for Surfers Paradise, and I want to touch on that address before I get on to<br />

the address by the member for Broadwater. I am very disappointed in my own judgement, and I will<br />

say that.<br />

Government members interjected.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Let me tell members why I am very disappointed: because I supported the<br />

member—<br />

Government members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! There are too many interjections and, unless the member<br />

takes those interjections, the member will be heard.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. For many years I supported the member for<br />

Surfers Paradise because I thought he was a member who had stature, who was honest and who<br />

was decent. After what I heard tonight with regard to what he said to the people of his electorate and<br />

unit owners, I am very disappointed and I am very sorry for the support that I had given this once<br />

friend. The member for Broadwater talks about the mortgage on her house. She will be looking for a<br />

new job in the next two years, because I can tell you now that the people of the Gold Coast will rise<br />

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I have been to the Gold Coast and I have met with unit owners. I met with the people who are<br />

facing having this legislation being debated tonight forced upon them. They are very, very angry.<br />

They will rise up in force, because there is nothing like people power. When this legislation passes<br />

through this House tonight, these people will rise up. I tell you now that Gold Coast members will get<br />

kicked out, and they have a lot to worry about. They have a serious lot to worry about. At that meeting<br />

I also said to those people, ‘Be ready to come late on Thursday night of the next sitting, because the<br />

Attorney-General hasn’t got the decency to face the media. He’s going to put this legislation through<br />

late at night’—<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I rise to a point of order. I take personal offence to the comment that I will not<br />

address the media. I did a live interview on 4BC yesterday, if the member had tuned in.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Minister, there is no point of order. The member has the call.<br />

Mr HOPPER: For a minister to take a point of order like that, for goodness sake! He stands up<br />

here and squawks and talks with his little thing in his pocket and makes sure that everyone hears him<br />

and he looks like a vibrant minister, but he does not even know the rules of parliament! He cannot<br />

even make a decent point of order, and here he is going to kick out unit owners on level 1 who have<br />

to suffer and pay the same fees as the Liberal Party’s puffed-up rich mates in the penthouse—that is,<br />

the body corporate fees of those in penthouses are going to be equalised to unit owners on level 1<br />

with this legislation. That is exactly what this legislation will do. Those pensioners and unit owners<br />

who bought the cheap units on level 1 will be faced with the same body corporate fees as their rich<br />

Liberal mates, and that is exactly what is going to happen with this legislation. North coast members<br />

will also see this same scrutiny, because people power will rule over this legislation. I will<br />

move amendments to try to protect the people who faithfully paid for those units and bought those<br />

units. This is disgusting—disgusting—legislation protecting your rich Liberal mates, and that is exactly<br />

what this is about.<br />

The Attorney-General is proceeding with his amendment to the Body Corporate and<br />

Community Management Act irrespective of the recommendations he received from the Legal Affairs<br />

and Community Safety Committee. This committee, which I chaired, received 274 submissions on<br />

this amendment bill. That speaks for itself. It speaks for itself that so many bodies would put in<br />

submissions to a committee inquiry. We held a committee hearing and we had Gold Coast members<br />

sitting in that committee hearing and yet they stand here tonight and say, ‘We’re not going to be<br />

threatened.’ Wait until the next election! Wait until the next election!<br />

Tonight we heard one of the worst contributions from the member for Ipswich, who is not used<br />

to taking interjections. He got a couple and could not keep speaking. I want to say to the member for<br />

Ipswich that if you keep making contributions like that to this House, we will keep interjecting. Let me<br />

tell you right now—<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Dr Robinson): Order! Member for Condamine, could you please<br />

resume your seat. It would help, member for Condamine, if you addressed your comments through<br />

the chair.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Mr Deputy Speaker, I am sorry about that. I respect the chair and I respect the<br />

way you run the House. This is not an inconsiderable number of submissions—274—owing to the<br />

short length of time that was allowed by the Attorney-General in which to lodge the submissions. The<br />

principal aim of this bill is to overturn legislation passed by the Labor government in 2011. The net<br />

effect of that amendment will be that those unit owners who had levies reverted to the developer’s<br />

levies after the 2011 amendment will need to have these levies changed once again for the<br />

equalisation principle. That is the principle that I am talking about in this legislation. The LNP<br />

members should hang their heads in shame, because this means that the poor are going to have to<br />

pay and the rich are not going to have to pay.<br />

An honourable member interjected.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Exactly. That is exactly what this is about. This is absolutely disgusting<br />

legislation for unit owners who are part of a body corporate in <strong>Queensland</strong>. The net effect is that<br />

these unit owners will need to have their levies changed once again for the equalisation principle. For<br />

some unit owners, this will be the third change to their levies in as many years. How would you be if<br />

you purchase a unit, you put your budget in place, you are living on a pension, you allow so much to<br />

pay for your body corporate fees and the next minute legislation comes through this chamber and,<br />

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out?’ A lot of these people will have to. That is why we are taking this stand tonight. That is why I<br />

have put amendments before this House, to which I will speak later. Let us see what the LNP<br />

members representing the Gold Coast and the north coast do with this legislation.<br />

For large complexes, this cost could be as high as $17,000. Could members imagine a<br />

pensioner having to pay a $17,000 body corporate fee for a swimming pool they do not swim in? For<br />

a lawn that is mowed that they do not walk on? For a lift that they do not use because the only unit<br />

they could afford was on the bottom floor? Yet their rich Liberal mates, who were paying $50,000,<br />

$60,000, $70,000—<br />

Mr Choat interjected.<br />

Mr HOPPER: You are gone at the next election. You want to interject; you are gone—<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Member for Condamine, will you address your comments through the<br />

chair.<br />

Mr Choat interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for Ipswich West!<br />

Mr HOPPER: The member for Ipswich West wants to interject. He should enjoy doing that for<br />

the next two years, because this legislation also affects people involved in bodies corporate in his<br />

electorate. If you want to pick on the Katter party, it will come against you twice as hard. So keep<br />

interjecting.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Member for Condamine, I warn you again about addressing<br />

your comments through the chair. It would help the House.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Mr Deputy Speaker, thank you. I do apologise once again and, as I said before, I<br />

do respect you. Let me borrow a phrase from the Attorney-General, but I will use it in a different<br />

context. Using the levy issue as a political football is costly for a body corporate. This amendment will<br />

once again throw the unit market into turmoil. Unit buyers will be justifiably confused by the seemingly<br />

regular changes to the way levies are calculated. The real estate market will be in turmoil because of<br />

what is happening now. There have been three changes in three years. If I am a real estate agent<br />

and I want to sell a unit on the Gold Coast, if I bring someone in to look at the unit and they ask,<br />

‘What are the body corporate fees?’, I would say, ‘At the moment it is $6,000, but with an LNP<br />

government it could be $17,000 after the next sitting of parliament,’ because that is how many<br />

changes we are seeing. There is no consistency with what is happening here in <strong>Queensland</strong>. We<br />

need consistency. There have been three changes in three years. It is absolutely disappointing to see<br />

this happening.<br />

Mr Cox: How many parties have you been in, mate?<br />

Mr HOPPER: I have another one here on the left. He should enjoy the next two years because<br />

he is gone as well.<br />

Mr Cox: How many changes have you been in, mate?<br />

Mr HOPPER: Probably six, I would say. I am particularly concerned about the effect that the<br />

changes to the levies are having on the more vulnerable folk in our community. We talk about whom<br />

we look after in our community. We have 19 families in Bundaberg whom the council have locked the<br />

toilets on at the showgrounds. Their houses have been washed away in the flood. We have a<br />

member for Bundaberg who has done absolutely nothing to protect them. We are talking about<br />

vulnerable people here.<br />

Mr WATTS: I rise to a point of order. I would like to get a ruling on relevance—<br />

Mr HOPPER: I am back to the bill. Thanks, Mr Deputy Speaker.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! I am listening to the member for Condamine’s speech. Largely,<br />

it has been about the body corporate legislation.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Mr Deputy Speaker, thank you very much for your ruling. But with all of these<br />

interjections they seem to get me off the subject. It is very hard to follow with all of this waffle that is<br />

going on. Age pensioners and retirees on fixed incomes—<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! There too many interjections in the House.<br />

Mr Krause interjected.


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Mr HOPPER: Mr Deputy Speaker, thank you. Let me just say that we have had an interjection<br />

from the member for Beaudesert. There are some bodies corporate in his electorate as well. If he<br />

wants to interject I want to tell him now that we will come to Beaudesert and we will tell the people of<br />

Beaudesert what he voted for tonight. Age pensioners and retirees on fixed incomes buy smaller units<br />

because they are more affordable. The smaller unit attracts a lower levy than the larger unit. That is<br />

what this bill is all about.<br />

Older folk find unit living attractive. It is suitable for them. They no longer have a big house or a<br />

lawn to mow. That is good for them as it frees them from the responsibility of maintaining a garden<br />

and maintaining a lawn. That is what body corporate fees are all about. Maintenance is attended to by<br />

the body corporate. We can only imagine the stress that these elderly folk are going to experience<br />

when they discover that the body corporate fee could increase by 30 per cent to 40 per cent and even<br />

up to 50 per cent under this legislation.<br />

Age pensioners in particular have to budget wisely. They have to save every dollar and every<br />

cent. The increase in these levies presents a devastating blow to them. Has any consideration been<br />

given to this group of people? No, absolutely not. The government seems fixated on making the lives<br />

of the penthouse unit owners easier. As I said, it is looking after its rich Liberal mates. Who cares if<br />

pensioners have to pay more in levies to subsidise the penthouse unit owner? No-one in this House<br />

would except the Labor Party, the backbenchers and the Katter party. I have just made that statement<br />

right now. We care. The variety of opinions expressed—<br />

Mr Cox: What are you going to do about it?<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The member for Thuringowa will cease interjecting.<br />

Mr HOPPER: There is another electorate the Katter party is going to spend a lot of time in, too.<br />

I will tell the member that right now. The variety of opinions expressed in the submissions to the<br />

committee—some quite comprehensive—gave the committee a valuable insight into the vexed issue<br />

of body corporate levies. Those submissions gave rise to the committee’s concerns that the<br />

government was not acting in the best interests of the majority of unit owners. As chair of the<br />

committee I said that. Yet the Attorney-General still puts the legislation forward when the committee<br />

system, which is designed to scrutinise legislation, said that this legislation cannot work. So what are<br />

committees in this parliament for? Why do we have committees when a committee scrutinises<br />

legislation and the legislation goes to the minister and the minister totally rejects what the committee<br />

says? This is just a shambles and a gamble. That is exactly what it is, for goodness sake.<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Dr Robinson): Order! There are too many interjections.<br />

Mr HOPPER: We are certainly touching some nerves tonight. We have got some interjections.<br />

Do members know why we are? Because these people, when we call divide, are actually going to<br />

vote for something they do not believe in because they are lined up in front of the firing squad and<br />

they will get shot and put on the backbench or kicked out of parliament and threatened with not being<br />

preselected by the Seeney-led government. That is exactly what will happen to them if they do not<br />

vote for this legislation. I am asking them for once in their life to really have a look at their conscience.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: I rise to a point of order. I ask the Deputy Speaker to rule on relevance.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am listening carefully to the member’s speech. He has linked it back<br />

to the bill. I am carefully listening and do encourage the member to stay very close to the bill.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Thank you very much. There is another one! There are bodies corporate in<br />

Nanango. I have actually bought a property at Kilcoy. The electorate of Nanango does attract me. I<br />

would like to go to Nanango and meet with some bodies corporate and maybe see what is going to<br />

happen in the next election.<br />

Mr LANGBROEK: I rise to a point of order. Is the member seriously suggesting that Carl<br />

Rackemann could not beat her but he will?<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Minister, that is no point of order.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Here we go once again. Another minister in parliament who does not know what<br />

a point of order is and here he sits. He has turned his back on his body corporate people, on his unit<br />

owners, and said, ‘They can squawk, they can come at me, it doesn’t worry me.’ People power will<br />

rule and he will be targeted. The member for Surfers Paradise will be targeted because of this<br />

legislation that is going through tonight. These people are showing their true colours.<br />

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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! There are too many interjections.<br />

Mr HOPPER: The government has continually failed to produce any real evidence to support<br />

the concept of equalisation. There is actually no real evidence in this legislation to support the<br />

concept that is before this House tonight. There is no evidence to support the concept of equalisation.<br />

How is it that a small one-bedroom unit owner is supposed to have the same impact on body<br />

corporate facilities and costs as does a four-bedroom penthouse that occupies 10 times that area?<br />

Yet the equalisation fees will come in and they will have to pay the same body corporate costs. How<br />

can people possibly vote for this tonight? This is a joke.<br />

Mr Rickuss interjected.<br />

Mr HOPPER: I don’t want to go to Lockyer, for goodness sake. How is it possible for two<br />

people who occupy a small apartment on the first floor to have exactly the same use of facilities and<br />

impose the same costs on the body corporate as do eight people in a penthouse on the 13th floor?<br />

Logic is clearly not a determining factor in this legislation.<br />

Mr Cox interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for Thuringowa will cease interjecting.<br />

Mr HOPPER: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. We have had so many interjections from him. It<br />

is obvious that this amendment is being driven by other factors. Why is there such a need for this<br />

deception? The government often refers to decisions made by the <strong>Queensland</strong> Civil and<br />

Administrative Tribunal as a validation of its decision to support the equalisation of levies. However,<br />

these decisions made by QCAT are driven by legislation and not by any reasoned analysis of how<br />

costs are actually incurred. Submissions made by a unit owner to equalise levies is supported by a<br />

so-called expert’s reports on the way costs are shared. Invariably, these reports indicate that all costs<br />

should be equally shared. Firstly, these reports are influenced by the legislation that all levies should<br />

be equal. Secondly, these reports are paid for by the unit owners who want the levies equalised.<br />

Therefore, it should not come as a surprise that these reports support the notion that all costs should<br />

be shared equally. I ask the members of this House, in the last two minutes of my speech, is it<br />

reasonable—<br />

Mr Gibson: No!<br />

Mr HOPPER: I take that interjection. Those opposite are saying that it is not reasonable for a<br />

unit owner who, on purchasing a unit and agreeing to the cost of levies for that unit, to then have the<br />

right to impose a change on the levies for all other unit owners. They have just agreed to that. We<br />

take that interjection and thank you for that. At what point does a contract not become binding? What<br />

possible justification does a government have to interfere in a legal commercial transaction? If an<br />

individual purchases a unit and is fully informed of the levy costs, why then should a government<br />

provide an avenue for this unit owner to overturn the levies for all other unit owners? That is what this<br />

legislation is going to do tonight.<br />

Mr Hart interjected.<br />

Mr HOPPER: I think I should get an extra five minutes because of all the interruptions. Why the<br />

need for this total deception if this equalisation of levies is fair and equitable? It is not fair and<br />

equitable. I stand before this House tonight and say that people power will rise up. We will target the<br />

seats of those members who have these bodies corporate and we will kick those members out at the<br />

next election because they will not stand up for the people who honestly paid for a unit with a base<br />

body corporate price and it is being adjusted and put up to look after their rich Liberal mates.<br />

Mr STEVENS (Mermaid Beach—LNP) (12.06 am): I would like to congratulate the member for<br />

Condamine on being chairman of the parliamentary committee that recommended approval of this bill<br />

to the House. If he can spell hypocrisy, he is the very epitome of the word. He has spent 20 minutes<br />

ranting and raving—the XXXX answer to the body corporate bill—when he has recommended its<br />

approval to this House as the chairman of that committee.<br />

This body corporate bill before the House is a very sensitive issue. Gold Coast members have<br />

a lot of bodies corporate in our area and it is a very sensitive issue. If you take from one party in these<br />

bodies corporate community titles then the burden goes to another party. Nothing but farce has taken<br />

place in this body corporate and community title area since the Labor Party tried to address this<br />

matter through legislation. The then minister, who introduced the first bill enabling the changes<br />

through QCAT to lot entitlements, was supported by the then member for Southport, Mr Peter Lawlor,<br />

saying what wonderful legislation they brought into this House. Following that, the then member for<br />

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2011, as I recall. It is a mish-mash of problems when these people deserve certainty. They have<br />

bought into these very expensive properties with a commitment that they understood, that they signed<br />

off on and it is the Labor Party that has given them this nightmare of changes in body corporate<br />

entitlements, burdens on pensioners, all of these issues that are real problems for them to face. They<br />

are serious problems.<br />

Age pensioner ladies are very concerned about how they will pay these body corporate fees.<br />

That in itself is a tragedy and it is all because of the Labor Party’s mishmash of trying to address the<br />

matter. Tonight with this legislation, the Attorney-General has taken a step towards addressing the<br />

last round of ineptitude by the Labor Party on bodies corporate issues. The Attorney-General assures<br />

me that this is a short-term step in an overall longer term strategy of a review to address the fairness<br />

and equity in bodies corporate right across-the-board. Throughout <strong>Queensland</strong> there are some<br />

400,000 body corporate titles, which may involve 600,000 people. That is a serious part of our<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> population. It is a growing part. People like community title living as they can share the<br />

burdens, the loads, the swimming pools and all those sorts of things. They like living in the closer<br />

areas of our brownfield developments, which have been significant in terms of our planning<br />

documents over the past years. There is a major move towards community title living.<br />

We have a situation that will have to be addressed right across-the-board. There are matters in<br />

terms of lease issues for body corporate managers. Right across-the-board there are matters that<br />

they have difficulty with involving the lot entitlements that are allocated by the developers. Why does<br />

the developer set the remunerations that must be paid by these people when he clears out as soon<br />

as he has sold all the units out of the body corporate title? It is absolutely ridiculous. The whole<br />

essence of community title living is that the community title owners must be in charge of their<br />

community. That means 50 per cent plus one through the body corporate of the building makes the<br />

decisions in relation to these matters. It is absolutely ridiculous for us to be juggling developer-set and<br />

real estate agent-set prices entitlements that, in many cases, initially were set to give favourable<br />

saleability to certain parts of a complex.<br />

We need to start from the ground up with a brand-new body corporate title scheme and the<br />

Attorney-General has assured me that that is where he is going. This is an interim step. That is why I<br />

will be supporting the Attorney-General’s bill tonight. I do so knowing that the burden will shift again<br />

from one portion of that community title to another portion of that community title, and that will be<br />

judged unfair. Wherever you change the burden, it will be judged unfair by the person who is<br />

receiving the extra burden. Unfortunately, we are in a particular situation as a result of the previous<br />

Labor Party government’s failings and its planning in this matter and we will have to sweep up and<br />

clean up after them.<br />

My own view is that it will not be addressed and it will not be fixed properly in terms of the<br />

future growth of community titles until we have a whole and complete review of all matters. I<br />

mentioned already the long-term leases being negotiated for the management of these community<br />

titles. It is absolutely ridiculous that we have 25-year leases going out just to sustain the purchase<br />

prices of these very expensive management rights, which are a big part of the real estate dollar<br />

involved with the development of these properties. That means they probably paid too much for the<br />

land in the first instance, which is why they sell these long-term leases. If people move in with a 10-<br />

year lease and pay X dollars and then they get it out to 20 years, obviously they have doubled the<br />

capital return on their money because they have a 20-year lease to sell.<br />

It is very simple economics, it is very easy to understand and it is absolutely classic that over all<br />

of these years the Labor Party has made an absolute dog’s breakfast of community title living. The<br />

community title sector is growing. I will go one step further in terms of the decision about public<br />

companies being body corporate managers. That has led to major legal cases and major hold-ups in<br />

QCAT as public companies look to maximise the dollar; not maximise the service, but maximise the<br />

dollar. The shareholders’ return is paramount, as it should be, but is that the appropriate place to be<br />

controlling the community title living of these bodies corporate and inflicting their money-maximising<br />

schemes on a body corporate that is really more interested in having a well-run community title? At<br />

every stage, you must look to the body corporate itself to be in charge of the future directions of that<br />

community.<br />

I believe that in the not-too-distant future the Attorney-General will have a full and<br />

comprehensive review, which will enable the body corporate act to be rewritten again and fairness<br />

and equity shall be returned. In fact, all the arguments are there and the body corporate people know<br />

them, that is, the number of people using the swimming pools and the lifts, et cetera. When burden<br />

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and we sympathise with those who suffer the consequences. It is unfortunate. It is the fault of the<br />

Labor government from the very first instance of its failed legislation to allow matters to go to QCAT to<br />

be decided upon. People bought in knowing what they bought and knowing what their commitment<br />

was, and then the rules were changed. That was not fair and I feel sorry for the people who will be<br />

adversely affected by this decision, but I support the bill.<br />

Mr CHOAT (Ipswich West—LNP) (12.16 am): I rise to speak on the Body Corporate and<br />

Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2013. It gives me much pleasure to<br />

rise and make a brief contribution to this debate as a member of the Legal Affairs and Community<br />

Safety Committee and because I believe it will benefit the property market and the wider economy in<br />

this state, whilst providing certainty and, indeed, better equality to many <strong>Queensland</strong> property owners.<br />

I certainly have no doubt at all that there will be significant benefits for the <strong>Queensland</strong> tourism sector,<br />

as I believe it will encourage investment by mums and dads. I know that tourism could do with an<br />

injection of new investors at this time.<br />

In one way, I am happy to say that the lack of cranes on the skyline of the Gold Coast at<br />

present makes my beloved part of <strong>Queensland</strong> look like it is where all the action is. At present we<br />

have three large cranes on our Ipswich CBD skyline and I think that is pretty impressive. I believe this<br />

bill will give rise to more development and we will see that reflected in the near future through the<br />

construction of more properties in places such as the Gold Coast. The examination of this bill and the<br />

important issues it represents has indeed been an opportunity for me to learn more about an aspect I<br />

previously knew little about. As honourable members might appreciate, there is not a lot in the way of<br />

body corporate activity and presence in my electorate, as I appreciate it is in other centres such as<br />

the Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast and even, these days, in central Brisbane.<br />

The bill concerns, of course, matters relating to bodies corporate comprising all lot owners in a<br />

community title scheme. The body corporate is responsible for most aspects of the maintenance and<br />

management of common property and relevant assets. Most associated shared costs are divided<br />

between lot owners in proportion to the contribution schedule lot entitlements for the particular<br />

property. Any adjustment to the portion of responsibility of these lot entitlements inevitably leads to<br />

some lot owners contributing more and others contributing less to the shared body corporate’s<br />

expenses. This legislation removes the requirement for bodies corporate to apply the reversion<br />

process so as to reduce the number of lot owners adversely affected by a reversion.<br />

This provision takes effect from the introduction of the bill. However, importantly, it will not<br />

apply to reversions given effect to previously. A reversion takes effect when a request to record a new<br />

community management statement is lodged along with the contribution schedule lot entitlement with<br />

the Registrar of Titles.<br />

The bill will remove additional red tape introduced by the 2011 amendments impacting on the<br />

sale of lots and it will provide jurisdiction to QCAT or a specialist adjudicator for disputes about<br />

adjustments of contribution schedule lot entitlements sought by the unanimous agreement of all lot<br />

owners concerned. This will address current inconsistencies which exist.<br />

I want to now reflect on the public hearings during 2012 which were held as part of the Legal<br />

Affairs and Community Safety Committee’s process of scrutinising and examining the impacts of the<br />

bill. During these public hearings evidence was given by a particular gentleman who was a father of a<br />

growing family. He and his wife are both working hard to bring up and educate their children. They are<br />

working long hours to do so. They both work in the Brisbane CBD. We see many families send their<br />

wage earners into Brisbane or major centres. They may have to travel long distances. As spending<br />

time with their kids is so important to them, they elected to move closer to the city to save many hours<br />

each week away from their kids through having to travel into work from the suburbs.<br />

I know members present will be able to identify with that issue. Tonight I was fortunate to be<br />

given leave so that I could dash home to attend a father-son night for my son who is in year 5 at<br />

Mount Crosby State School.<br />

We have to consider that there is a human side to everything and it is not always about money.<br />

Some things are more important to people and they will make sacrifices to make sure they can<br />

provide those things. The family I am talking about needed space for their growing family and so they<br />

purchased a larger unit in an apartment complex in an inner Brisbane suburb. This is an average<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> family with a mortgage just like their counterparts in the suburbs. They have made<br />

sacrifices so that they can give their children the very best lifestyle available. I believe this gentleman<br />

expressed himself very well. He made such an impression on me and I know on my fellow committee<br />

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This bill serves to assist this family. They should not have to pay an overly high body corporate<br />

charge just because their home is bigger than their neighbour’s or on the top floor. They do not use<br />

the services in the complex that much more than other residents. Indeed, they paid a lot more for their<br />

home than some of their neighbours. But the lights in the lobby shine no brighter for them than<br />

anyone else. The 2011 provisions have really hurt this family.<br />

I know another working couple who run a small business in Forest Hill. They some years ago<br />

purchased a top floor apartment on the Gold Coast as both an investment for their retirement—<br />

security for their future and their old age—and an opportunity to take a decent holiday once a year<br />

with family and sometimes friends. They did this so they can spend some quality time with loved ones<br />

and their extended family.<br />

These people are not rich. They have worked their guts out for what they have. Their<br />

investment also brings business and opportunities to local small businesses in that particular area of<br />

the Gold Coast. But body corporate charges hurt them too and they have had to cut down on their<br />

holiday time to afford to keep their retirement investment.<br />

What I am saying is that there are many property owners who have been adversely affected by<br />

the previous legislation and this is an opportunity to fix and address that problem. I do note that there<br />

will be future amendments made. But this is the start that will set things right. Unfortunately, there are<br />

some people who will pay more. As the member for Mermaid Beach pointed out so aptly before, we<br />

are concerned for them. However, we have to start somewhere to fix this problem.<br />

I am sure at the end of the day that there will be many more who will now get a fair go and<br />

others who will now reconsider decisions not to invest as a result of unfair charging regimes. Before I<br />

was elected to this place I went in to bat for a group of people who were residents in the suburb of<br />

One Mile and part of a body corporate. These people were beside themselves with what was going<br />

on. Not having a legal background, I contacted a friend of mine who was kind enough to offer these<br />

people some free advice. As a result, they went on to resolve the issues at hand. They were very<br />

grateful to me for the opportunity I gave them to get some good advice and assistance.<br />

Two members of that group contacted me after the public hearings and said to me that they<br />

had full faith in this government, of which I am a part, to do the right thing for the majority of people.<br />

I am very determined to see this bill pass because it is people like that community in One Mile who I<br />

believe will have a better opportunity for a fair go.<br />

I congratulate the Attorney-General and his department for having the fortitude to bring this bill<br />

to this House and make some positive moves to make life better for many property owners who are<br />

part of a body corporate. I say to the House that this is yet another opportunity in this great state for a<br />

level playing field for investors and owner occupiers alike. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Dr DOUGLAS (Gaven—Ind) (12.26 am): This amended legislation is proof, if we needed any,<br />

that tinkering around the edges with critical laws relating to the most important asset in average<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>ers’ lives is certain to polarise the community. Worse still, if the motive for the change in<br />

legislation is at best suspect—read notional—and at worst rewarding a very narrow group of<br />

supporters, then the resulting legislation is guaranteed to be critically flawed. So it is with the body<br />

corporate legislation amendments. I put it to anyone that this legislation is difficult to understand when<br />

it is done well and properly.<br />

Some states have achieved that. We in <strong>Queensland</strong> clearly have not, irrespective of what<br />

people might believe. This is truly a case of everyone being to blame and no one group really being<br />

willing to be prepared to fix the problem. The original act of 1997 formulated in the last coalition<br />

government was the genesis of the problem that beset this legislation on which we are tonight trying<br />

to apply a bandaid.<br />

At its core, the failings of this legislation are as follows. Firstly, contracts of property with<br />

defined fees and charges relating to that property on sale are effectively contestable long-term via<br />

access to an appeals mechanism. Secondly, the Attorney-General fails to understand that of the 130<br />

properties he begrudgingly accepts are affected by this legislation it involves at least 4,200 plus<br />

separate titles and possibly over 10,000 individuals, but there are 40,000 schemes <strong>Queensland</strong>-wide.<br />

Thirdly, the government claims not to set body corporate levies. This is untrue. It is enshrined in the<br />

original 1997 legislation. The act specifies that the levies should be equal. Fourthly, the effect of this<br />

legislation is to only overturn the Labor amendment. That is the levies will be relevant to the<br />

equalisation principle for the affected bodies corporate. That is penthouse owners will pay the same<br />

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all were reverted to the equalisation principle. Fifthly, the end result will be a progressive return to the<br />

equalisation principle irrespective of the property description and the original contractual agreement.<br />

Sixthly, the uncertainty surrounding the levy issue has had an adverse impact on the real estate<br />

market. Therefore, the LNP is destroying the investments made by people who believed that<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> law could be trusted. This is a mistake for all of us.<br />

Much of this was expanded upon during the public hearings on this legislation. I was fortunate<br />

to attend some of these. I really think members need to look at what was submitted. I put it to<br />

members: do we have the right to play a political equivalent of a tug of war with a group, many of<br />

whom are living on fixed incomes either government funded or self-funded retirees, wage or salary<br />

earners or a mixture of both or some of all.<br />

Clearly no-one with property without a body corporate or someone who is a housing<br />

commission resident is totally unaffected. People budget years ahead and are powerless when faced<br />

with charges for which they have no financial capacity to withstand. Speaker after speaker in<br />

submissions addressed this.<br />

Honourable members, we have a range of choices here as the government preferred option<br />

still has all the pain that the 4,200-plus unit owners fear. It also probably puts a lot more at potential<br />

risk of being included where they thought they originally were not. This is the 40 whose situation was<br />

being assessed at the time of the previous legislative changes—that is, the so-called<br />

Lawlor amendments.<br />

Realistically there is a better path that is fair. It would be better to do nothing at present. Look<br />

carefully at your own contract law and place the certainty of those contractual legal instruments within<br />

the BCMA. The right of appeal after signing the contract agreeing to the levies and charges that are<br />

defined by the contract must be extinguished.<br />

As a word of warning, we need to understand that we need to plot a realistic path to a<br />

resolution. The amendment does not prevent any lot owner from lodging a new application to equalise<br />

levies. The Attorney-General and the LNP are potentially opening the floodgates to this happening.<br />

Mr DILLAWAY (Bulimba—LNP) (12.30 am): I rise tonight to contribute to the debate on the<br />

Body Corporate and Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012. I<br />

congratulate the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice on the introduction of this bill to the House<br />

as a significant step forward towards fixing the debacle in which the former Labor government left us<br />

in the area of body corporate. Of course, as many members on this side of the House know, it is just<br />

one of many debacles the former Labor government has left <strong>Queensland</strong>ers as their legacy of almost<br />

20 years on the government benches.<br />

They include the $1.25 billion Health debacle, the ambulance ramping at our hospitals, the<br />

spiralling costs in public transport that have required 15 per cent increases year after year after year,<br />

or the trains that were built without seats, the debt, the deficit, the lack of social housing stock being<br />

built across the state and the thousands of <strong>Queensland</strong>ers who are homeless tonight. Then there<br />

were the spiralling costs of living including <strong>Queensland</strong> being the most expensive state in which to<br />

own a motor vehicle. Then we have the amalgamations of councils—<br />

Mr BYRNE: I rise to a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. What has this got to do with the bill?<br />

It has nothing to do with the bill.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Dr Robinson): I missed the specifics. The member knows that he<br />

needs to be focused on the bill. But I also note that the member has only just started his speech, and<br />

I am sure that he will focus on the bill. The member for Bulimba has the call.<br />

Mr DILLAWAY: Thank you for your guidance, Mr Deputy Speaker. As I was saying, the<br />

consolidation of the water entities, the waste on water infrastructure like the failed Traveston Dam<br />

project, the Tugun desalination plant and what about Wyaralong Dam—a dam with no pipes! Let’s not<br />

forget their softness on crime and on the criminals which we are still witnessing here in this House.<br />

In contrast, the Newman LNP government are growing our four pillars in agriculture, tourism,<br />

construction and mining. We have lowered the cost of living for families by cutting waste. We have<br />

frozen car rego for our first term. We have frozen electricity tariff 11 this year. We have provided relief<br />

for water charges to South-East <strong>Queensland</strong>. We are delivering better infrastructure and better<br />

planning through the work done by the Deputy Premier and his team—


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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Member for Bulimba, I do encourage you to return to the bill. You<br />

have had an introduction and you now need to start addressing the bill.<br />

Mr DILLAWAY: Thank you for your guidance, Mr Deputy Speaker. I acknowledge the Legal<br />

Affairs and Community Safety Committee for their consideration of this bill and thank all who were a<br />

part of the process. As a new member of this committee, I was not involved in the committee’s<br />

deliberations but know that my very able colleagues and the research team would have thoroughly<br />

examined all the evidence put before them.<br />

Over the past 15 years we have observed a mess unfold with body corporate legislation in the<br />

hands of Labor. In an effort to fix the numerous issues associated, the previous Labor governments<br />

have tangled unit owners and other stakeholders up in a knot of red tape, resulting in a system<br />

lacking in fairness and natural justice. As the Attorney-General said in his explanatory speech, body<br />

corporate has been used as a political football by the Labor Party and here tonight by the Katter’s<br />

Australian Party, but the games stop here. The full-time whistle has blown.<br />

The Newman government is committed to untangling this mess, and we are already delivering<br />

so we can get the balance right once and for all. As pressure mounts on population increases and the<br />

need to house a greater population in a smaller area, it is timely that we fix this mess to enable a<br />

greater level of certainty in the multi-unit development market. It supports our construction pillar and<br />

in many cases supports our tourism industry.<br />

This bill amends the Body Corporate and Community Management Act 1997 with the main<br />

intention to remove the requirement for bodies corporate to overturn an order made by QCAT, a<br />

tribunal or specialist adjudicator to change their contribution schedule lot entitlements following a<br />

motion from a single lot owner at a body corporate meeting. I ask: how can this be fair? How can one<br />

single lot owner make a motion and overturn a legally binding order without it even going to a vote?<br />

Mr Hart: Exactly. You know the issue.<br />

Mr DILLAWAY: I take that interjection from the member for Burleigh. This astounds me. This is<br />

the crux of these amendments. It is to bring back fairness and natural justice.<br />

A contribution schedule lot entitlement determines the proportion a unit owner contributes<br />

towards shared body corporate expenses. Previously the owner-developer of an apartment building<br />

would set lot entitlements on which body corporate levies were calculated. In 1997, the state<br />

government introduced regulations governing the allocation of lot entitlements as a result of cases<br />

where initial allocations were heavily biased and unfair. Owners who thought they were paying more<br />

than their fair share could seek a contribution schedule lot entitlement adjustment order from a court,<br />

tribunal or specialist adjudicator which resulted in some owners paying a higher portion of the shared<br />

body corporate expenses and others paying a small amount.<br />

The 1997 act introduced what is referred to as the equality principle to assist in determining<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlement adjustment applications. It deems that contribution schedule lot<br />

entitlements should be equal with the exception to the extent that it is just and equitable that they are<br />

not equal. This principle is based on the idea that the contribution schedule lot entitlements are<br />

primarily about sharing the expenses associated with common property. The case where it is<br />

considered permissible for contribution schedule lot entitlements to be unequal provides for any<br />

differences that accurately reflect different impacts that particular lots have on the expenses incurred<br />

by the body corporate compared to other lots.<br />

The 2011 amendments to the act introduced the relativity principle which governs the setting of<br />

lot entitlements based on the individual circumstances of each lot and the relative use of and/or<br />

impact on common property. There were competing views raised by the submissions on the bill with<br />

regard to the setting of contribution schedule lot entitlements and therefore the basis for sharing body<br />

corporate expenses between the owners of lots included in the community titles scheme. It is<br />

important to note that the purpose of this bill is not to deal with the basis for setting lot entitlements<br />

but rather intend to address the issue of adjustments of lot entitlements. We believe that it is unfair<br />

and unjust to allow the 2011 amendments to the act to continue as they undermine the authority of<br />

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The infamous April 2011 amendments under the former government provided a reversion<br />

process for owners adversely affected by an adjustment order to have the scheme’s contribution<br />

schedule lot entitlement reverted to its original setting. This has been subject to significant criticism by<br />

lot owners who are financially disadvantaged by the ‘undoing’ of a contribution schedule lot<br />

entitlement. Some lot owners saw their body corporate fees increase by thousands of dollars per<br />

year.<br />

The main issue with the 2011 reversion process was that it undermined the judicial system by<br />

allowing bodies corporate to overturn an order made by the <strong>Queensland</strong> Civil and Administrative<br />

Tribunal, a tribunal or specialist adjudicator to change their contribution schedule lot entitlements<br />

following a motion from a single lot owner at a body corporate meeting. The immediate achievement<br />

of this bill will see the removal of the requirement for bodies corporate to undertake the reversion<br />

process to minimise the number of lot owners financially disadvantaged by a reversion.<br />

Our goal is to have a workable and fair system for managing shared costs including the<br />

maintenance of common property and that system requires stability. It provides jurisdiction to QCAT<br />

or a specialist adjudicator for disputes about adjustments of contribution schedule lot entitlements<br />

sought by unanimous agreement of all lot owners. This amendment is being made to address a<br />

current inconsistency in the jurisdiction for disputes about contribution schedule lot entitlement<br />

adjustments under the act.<br />

I would like to highlight, as it has been claimed tonight, that not all of the 274 submissions were<br />

against what we are proposing. I would like to read a quote from submission 6 to the committee. It<br />

states—<br />

... it is ... not fair that simply because one owns a larger unit one should pay more for the manager or garden maintenance and<br />

the like.<br />

I myself have been a unit owner. There was a pool, there was a barbecue, we had gardens and<br />

we had an on-site manager. I had the same opportunity as anyone else to use the pool, I had the<br />

same opportunity to use the barbecue, I saw the same gardens that everybody else saw and we all<br />

used the on-site manager. Why should it be that somebody pays more for that than somebody else<br />

does? When it comes to lifts—I know that was discussed earlier—whether you go one floor up, three<br />

floors up or 10 floors up, you still need a lift. The point here is that in the past QCAT or the adjudicator<br />

was able to make those adjustments to make it fair and equitable.<br />

As the member for Surfers Paradise highlighted, only approximately 130 of the 41,000<br />

schemes will be affected by winding back the 2011 amendments. The Body Corporate and<br />

Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill does not address the many complex<br />

issues surrounding body corporate legislation but takes a vital first step towards fixing the current<br />

state of affairs. I look forward to the Attorney-General’s further review to ensure that in broader issues<br />

we get the balance right. This is the first step in getting this back on track. I congratulate the Attorney-<br />

General on the introduction of this bill. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr BYRNE (Rockhampton—ALP) (12.40 am): I rise to make a contribution to the debate on the<br />

Body Corporate and Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012. As the<br />

member for Mulgrave has already indicated, the opposition will not be supporting this bill—and,<br />

seriously, how could we? The LNP’s stacked committee does not even agree with it. In fact, it is a<br />

shocker. The minister has had a year to produce a permanent solution, and this ham-fisted legislation<br />

is the result.<br />

This bill does not enhance security for unit owners in <strong>Queensland</strong>. Nor does it settle the<br />

disquiet in the community about the uncertainty surrounding the setting of levies by bodies corporate.<br />

In fact, this bill creates a level of uncertainty in the market that can ill afford this type of destabilisation.<br />

If passed, the effect of this legislation on unit sales will be significant. No-one can go into a purchase<br />

for a unit with any certainty about the level of body corporate fees they will be paying over the next 12<br />

months or more.<br />

As a member of the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee I admire the diligence of<br />

the committee research staff, who waded through the 274 submissions from people who feel strongly<br />

enough about this issue to put pen to paper and make a written submission. I have fielded many<br />

inquiries in my electorate office, and I know that the opposition office has received a multitude of<br />

telephone calls, letters and emails from people who are very concerned about what the government is<br />

doing here. I have also travelled to the Gold Coast to speak directly to unit owners who will be<br />

affected by this bill. I was invited because residents on the Gold Coast felt that a number of LNP MPs<br />

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To give credit to some members from the Gold Coast, they eventually saw the light and met<br />

with the concerned unit owners. I make particular mention of the member for Broadwater, Minister<br />

Stuckey and the member for Burleigh, who I know had met with their concerned constituents. The test<br />

for them will be to do what is right by those people who voted for them rather than look after the<br />

chosen few who are living the high life in penthouse apartments. I make particular mention of the<br />

member for Burleigh, who was so concerned about my meeting with unit owners that it must have<br />

caused him to become slightly disoriented. He had just left a meeting on the second floor with the<br />

same people I was going to meet when he saw me in the foyer. This shock caused him to mistakenly<br />

get back in the elevator and return to the second floor, just to confirm the suspicion that I was meeting<br />

with those constituents. Once he had seen that I was meeting with them, he managed to find his way<br />

out of the building.<br />

The member for Burleigh knows how divisive this issue is amongst once-friendly neighbours. It<br />

is tearing apart the fabric of those communities. He must be concerned about what his constituents<br />

know—that is, if the Gold Coast LNP members will not represent the views of the community the<br />

community will find someone who will. No surprises there.<br />

I do feel momentarily sorry for some of the LNP members on the Gold Coast, because I am<br />

sure that none of them were privy to the discussions that took place during the preparation of this bill.<br />

That they have now been forced to vote against their community and their own interests must be a<br />

little upsetting. The committee gave them a way out via dissent but it was quickly smashed.<br />

This is not just an issue for the Gold Coast as it will affect everyone who lives in units and apartments<br />

all over <strong>Queensland</strong>. But those few in the LNP who are calling the shots do not care how this affects<br />

their own MPs in the community. Some of the members within the government know that the LNP<br />

blueprint was to build the biggest margin they could so they could afford to burn a few new MPs. This<br />

will certainly be the case as a result of this bill. I say to them: it is time to fight back and develop a bit<br />

of a spine. Vote against this bill, get organised and try to save your own skin.<br />

It is clear that this LNP government is not only happy to but also working very hard to help the<br />

rich get richer. As the rich sit in their penthouses sipping champagne they can all toast this tory LNP<br />

government. I, for one, take great pride in voting against this bill. It is a matter of principle and it<br />

clearly sets out who is who in the zoo. Who out of those opposite will show any remorse when they<br />

vote against the retired police officers, the retired Defence Force staff and other <strong>Queensland</strong>ers who<br />

have worked hard all their lives so that they can buy their own apartment in this paradise we live in,<br />

only to find that they can no longer afford—<br />

Government members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Honourable members, the hour is nigh, but the member for<br />

Rockhampton does deserve an audience that is attentive and is not talking.<br />

Mr BYRNE:—the body corporate levies because the penthouses want to pay less? They may<br />

be forced to sell their units or sit in the dark because the combined effects of increased electricity<br />

prices will mean they will be forced to look for ways to save money on a very limited, fixed income.<br />

Those opposite will be responsible for what they have done to these proud <strong>Queensland</strong>ers. It is<br />

concerning that this has all been done without prior consultation—and not a peep from those opposite<br />

during the election campaign as to what their plans were. There is no mandate; this is a product of a<br />

whim.<br />

So exactly what do these amendments set out to achieve? The first thing they seek to do is<br />

stop people making applications to have their original lot entitlements restored. That is, their sole<br />

purpose is to undo the amendments made by the previous government in 2011, without any<br />

consultation and with no basis in policy.<br />

The minister has already made an announcement that the government will be conducting a<br />

review of the legislation at some point in the future. So any change at this stage just for the sake of<br />

change will result in destabilisation and confusion among unit owners across <strong>Queensland</strong>. Even the<br />

Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee cannot support this bill in its current form. Not only<br />

has it recommended sweeping amendments to the bill; it also sets a time frame for the Attorney-<br />

General to report back to the parliament on what the government proposal is. It is very interesting to<br />

hear what former members of the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee have had to say<br />

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This drawn-out process is not what is needed. What is needed is certainty. To change the<br />

system yet again for the next so many months until you work out what your plan is is simply<br />

nonsensical. As I pointed out at the public hearing on the bill—<br />

There are not going to be any revelations coming in this review process that are going to be a shining light of new information.<br />

Surely the issues are known. The department must have a view about the way to proceed with this issue.<br />

I concur with the committee report when it concurred with me, finding that—<br />

... the issues are known and it is unlikely there will be any new revelations in developing a final policy.<br />

It went on—<br />

... the options in determining the policy settings moving forward are finite and must be settled quickly to ensure unit owners,<br />

bodies corporate and other stakeholders have certainty in what fees are payable and how they are calculated.<br />

My response to that part of the committee report is: hear, hear! Another part of the committee report<br />

with which I heartily agree is this—<br />

... the Committee considers that unlike what has occurred with this Bill, the Government must actively consult with unit owners<br />

and develop a fair and equitable solution to address this ongoing issue.<br />

My experience is that a great many people affected by this bill are reasonable and are willing to<br />

reach some sort of compromise because they want certainty so that they can move on with their lives<br />

with some sort of consistency. The bill in this form does not achieve any of that. The information<br />

provided to the committee by the Department of Justice and Attorney-General is that there are<br />

approximately 41,000 community title schemes, which includes around 385,000 lots. This is a lot of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>ers who are being left in limbo while the government tries to work out what it wants to do.<br />

As the Attorney has pointed out, this is a complex issue. There is no need to make it even more<br />

complex with these ill-conceived legislative amendments made on an ad hoc basis. I guess when you<br />

spend a great chunk of your parliamentary career wasting time with royalist nonsense the real work<br />

gets lost amongst your fawning for the Crown.<br />

The member for Mulgrave gave some examples of how the equal apportionment of lot<br />

entitlements can have an adverse effect, and very unfair effect, on the levies paid by unit owners. The<br />

adjustment of lot entitlements to make the levies payable by unit owners to be equal has resulted in<br />

unit owners who entered into contracts to purchase units being forced to sell their units because they<br />

cannot afford the massive hike in levies that occurred as a result of the adjustments. Even the Legal<br />

Affairs and Community Safety Committee cannot support the bill in its current form.<br />

Mr Cripps: If I knew you were going to talk for so long I would have sold tickets.<br />

Mr BYRNE: After what we have seen tonight, this is at least a little bit stimulating. This drawnout<br />

process is not what was needed. As I said earlier, nothing new is going to come to the<br />

department’s mind about how this bill is going to succeed. There is nothing new at all, but we are still<br />

sitting back waiting ad infinitum for the minister to decide to deal with this problem. After 12 months in<br />

government we get this ham-fisted piece of legislation.<br />

Government members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Berry): Order! Honourable members, I would like to give the<br />

member for Rockhampton an opportunity to deliver his speech. Can we curtail our enthusiasm at this<br />

hour? I know there is a lot of enthusiasm out there about a very important subject but if the member<br />

for Rockhampton can continue in some degree of silence I would very much appreciate it.<br />

Mr BYRNE: People can expect that there will be unexpected expenses for bodies corporate on<br />

an individual basis and that all levies may have to increase in a particular financial year. However,<br />

hiking one unit owner’s levies so that another can pay less cannot be equitable if it has no correlation<br />

to the degree to which a unit owner draws on the resources of the body corporate. Another concern I<br />

have is in relation to the retrospective nature of this bill. Introducing a bill into parliament does not<br />

make something law. The committee process, if undertaken with sincerity, can sometimes result in<br />

massive changes to a bill as the recommendations of the committee will attest to in this case, and I<br />

hope that they are fully embraced.<br />

The announcement that the bill will commence not on the date of passage—if it actually passes<br />

in its current form—but on the date of introduction has created further uncertainty. This<br />

announcement created a hiatus in the building unit industry. The law has not changed. So people are<br />

still able to make an application for their original lot entitlements to be reinstated. However, because<br />

of the Attorney’s announcement, something that was perfectly lawfully undertaken will be negated<br />

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rights under the <strong>Queensland</strong> legislation. As the report points out, the committee notes that the<br />

registrar of titles will continue to accept requests to lodge a new CMS but will not affect registration<br />

until the bill progresses through the parliament. Again, this is a preposterous situation that has been<br />

forced on public officials. Not only does the bill prevent any new applications being made to revert the<br />

original lot entitlement, it also provides for a mechanism for reversing processes that have already<br />

been undertaken. This is the aspect of the bill that bears the brunt of not only the committee’s<br />

criticism in its report but also many of the organisations making submissions. As the <strong>Queensland</strong> Law<br />

Society pointed out—<br />

The Society is therefore opposed to this aspect of the Bill. In the Society’s view, this will simply lead to unnecessary costs being<br />

incurred and angst within community titles schemes. A better approach, we submit, would be for the government to determine<br />

its final approach to the vexed issue of lot entitlement adjustment before allowing any further changes to be made.<br />

That sounds pretty sensible to me and anyone else who is involved. I agree with the committee. Even<br />

if the government decides that policy objectives set out in this bill—<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: The member for Rockhampton made a very important point but I do<br />

not think you were all listening. Please join with me.<br />

Mr BYRNE: I am horrified to think that they are not listening to me. That is incredible. I agree<br />

with the committee in that statement. Even if the government decides that the policy objectives set out<br />

in this bill is how they were to proceed at the end of their review process, there is little merit in<br />

enabling and unwinding the current reversion processes to allow for further adjustments to lot<br />

entitlements to occur as an interim measure. It makes no sense whatsoever. This is a recipe for<br />

confusion for short-term point-scoring with millionaires. The policy merit of this approach is actually<br />

non-existent. Why not just wait, complete the review process instead of foisting these additional<br />

changes on <strong>Queensland</strong>’s unit owners? The member for Mulgrave has canvassed additional matters<br />

contained in this bill and I agree with those. I see no need to further extrapolate on those arguments.<br />

The opposition cannot and will not support a bill that has the potential to wreak untold havoc on unit<br />

sales in this state for short-term political point-scoring by a government that is under siege. This is a<br />

Robin Hood type of bill in reverse: it takes from the people and gives to the rich. It is simply not<br />

acceptable to any thinking <strong>Queensland</strong>er.<br />

Mr KNUTH (Dalrymple—KAP) (12.58 am): The explanatory notes to the Body Corporate and<br />

Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012 state that it amends the Body<br />

Corporate and Community Management Act 1997 to adjust contribution schedule lot entitlements to<br />

minimise the number of bodies corporate that could be required to undertake the former government’s<br />

reversion process under the 2011 legislation and to provide a means for the contribution title affected<br />

by that to be returned to the lot entitlements that applied under the scheme prior to the reversion<br />

process. During the debate on the reversion process in 2011 the Attorney-General attacked the<br />

former government over its lack of consultation leading up to those changes.<br />

The committee received numerous submissions that slammed the lack of consultation. In the<br />

report on the submissions by the Department of Justice and Attorney-General, the department<br />

acknowledged that, while community consultation was not specifically undertaken in relation to the<br />

bill, issues and stakeholder views on the contribution schedule lot entitlement have been widely<br />

canvassed in a number of previous consultation processes including a 2008 discussion paper and the<br />

draft legislation leading up to the 2011 amendments. This legislation is based on what the Attorney-<br />

General himself believes was inadequate consultation conducted five years ago for a piece of<br />

legislation the Attorney-General opposed. It is no wonder that there is a lot of community opposition to<br />

the bill which is unclear on how fees will now be distributed and fails to account for the inequalities of<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlements that may arise once entitlements affected in the reversion<br />

process of 2011 have been adjusted. Considering the Attorney-General has already flagged a review<br />

of broader lot entitlement issues, including reintroducing a mechanism for adjusting contribution<br />

schedule lot entitlements for a community titles scheme, what is the urgency of pushing this<br />

legislation through?<br />

Smaller unit owners who make up 60 per cent of unit owners in <strong>Queensland</strong> are fearful that this<br />

legislation will push their body corporate fees up by 20 per cent to 30 per cent while those in larger<br />

units and penthouses could decrease. With regard to the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012, many submissions to the bill tell about the<br />

huge increase in body corporate rates both prior to and following the 2011 reversion process,<br />

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that whichever way the bill goes there will be a unit owner who will find their body corporate rates<br />

rising. The reversion process introduced by the Labor government in 2011 meant that unit holders<br />

were paying body corporate fees according to the size of their lot. This bill will see all unit owners pay<br />

the same body corporate fee regardless of the size or situation of the unit.<br />

Those on fixed and lower incomes who own smaller units—some 60 per cent of unit owners in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>—fear that this new legislation will increase their body corporate fees by 20 per cent to<br />

30 per cent. It is the plight of these owners—mainly retired people either on a fixed superannuation<br />

income or a pension—that is concerning. They bought their units believing their body corporate levies<br />

set by the developers would remain stable, apart from yearly CPI increments. If this legislation is<br />

passed, they face large increases in body corporate fees as they subsidise the equalisation of larger<br />

unit fees. Bodies corporate still have to be funded and it is the smaller unit holders who will pick up<br />

the slack. There are submissions from the very elderly—those over 85 years old—who say that they<br />

will have to sell their units and use the capital to rent for the rest of their lives.<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Berry): Order! Member for Dalrymple, just take your seat for a<br />

moment. I know the member for Dalrymple has been sitting, as other members spoke, quietly,<br />

patiently, stoically, peacefully and contemplatively and I think he now deserves that same respect. So,<br />

honourable members, please, respect the speaker while he is standing and listen to what he has to<br />

say.<br />

Mr KNUTH: There are submissions from the very elderly—those over 85 years old—who say<br />

that they will have to sell their units and use the capital to rent for the rest of their lives, but who will<br />

buy their units with such large body corporate levies? No community consultation was undertaken on<br />

this bill, which has been rushed through with only a window of just over a month for members of the<br />

public to make written submissions. The government needs to prove that it has not been taken<br />

captive over this issue by wealthy developers, penthouse owners and large corporate unit owners<br />

who are the ones who will benefit from the equalisation of body corporate levies. If the government<br />

wants to demonstrate equality and fairness, it would do well to delay the passing of this bill, revert<br />

back to public consultation, give a longer term for public submissions and consult more widely on the<br />

legal basis for this legislation.<br />

Mr JUDGE (Yeerongpilly—Ind) (1.03 am): I rise to speak on the Body Corporate and<br />

Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill. In my view, the member for<br />

Condamine really summed up the situation quite accurately. Like the member for Condamine, I<br />

participated in the public hearing of this bill. The fact that there were 274 submissions substantially<br />

indicates the complexity and ramifications of the proposed legislation. The Attorney-General and<br />

members of the Newman government have criticised the former government for the legislation, but<br />

the bill before the House creates a scenario of winners and losers and the Attorney-General has an<br />

obligation to stop flip-flopping and arrive at a workable solution. In the interim, there is an obligation to<br />

protect the most vulnerable. I note that government members have convinced themselves<br />

unanimously to support the bill despite coming from very different and diverse electorates across<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>. I would encourage them to get out of their electorate offices and speak with the people<br />

whom they are elected to represent.<br />

I remind them that they were each elected to broadly serve and act in the best interests of their<br />

constituents. Quite simply, <strong>Queensland</strong>ers are tired of the Newman government’s cliches of reducing<br />

red tape and getting <strong>Queensland</strong> back on track. They want real action and not just words from their<br />

elected representatives. They want members who are willing to stand up and represent their interests<br />

and not simply toe the party line. Members of the House have an obligation to inform the government<br />

of the diversity of people impacted by this bill. It is not the case of one size fits all, and this fact needs<br />

to be taken into consideration in developing legislation that applies from a penthouse at Q1 to a<br />

duplex at Rocklea.<br />

Mr HART (Burleigh—LNP) (1.05 am): I rise in support of the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012. From the outset, I say this: like many of the<br />

reforms and tough decisions this government has had the determination to enact since the people of<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> overwhelmingly elected the LNP in March 2012, this legislation is not about winning a<br />

popularity contest; it is about righting the Labor wrongs and showing the leadership and determination<br />

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title or body corporate is a microcosm of a wider community, with ministers and members of<br />

parliament through the passage of time recognising the complex nature of community living and that it<br />

is difficult for every stakeholder to be satisfied by one piece of legislation.<br />

As part of the committee process, 272 submissions were made by stakeholders about the bill.<br />

The committee noted that all submissions commented on the provisions relating to contribution<br />

schedule lot entitlements and that the submissions highlighted the strongly competing views of<br />

stakeholders about how the bill should deal with contribution schedule lot entitlements. This bill<br />

delivers on promises we campaigned about during the March election. Importantly, the bill seeks to<br />

remove the reversion process—<br />

Honourable members interjected.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Berry): Member for Burleigh, perhaps I might help you in your<br />

auditory process by asking honourable members to be more attentive to what you are saying,<br />

because what you are saying is important. We want to hear what you say. Honourable members,<br />

would you please join with me in listening to the member for Burleigh.<br />

Mr HART: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for your protection. It is quite obvious that the<br />

members of the north-west branch of the Labor Party are not interested in hearing how this whole<br />

scheme works.<br />

Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER: Member for Burleigh, I did not name any section; I am just simply<br />

saying the noise level is a little high.<br />

Mr HART: Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. Importantly, the bill seeks to remove the reversion<br />

process and where a reversion has already taken place provide a process enabling lot entitlements to<br />

be changed back to what was set by the last adjustment order—importantly—ordered by a court, a<br />

tribunal or a specialist adjudicator, and these proposed changes have been welcomed by a number of<br />

leading groups in this sector. To put these proposed changes into context, prior to April 2011 lot<br />

owners could seek an adjustment order to their schemes—the contribution schedule lot<br />

entitlements—by seeking an order from a specialist adjudicator such as the <strong>Queensland</strong> Civil and<br />

Administrative Tribunal or a District Court.<br />

In April 2011 the former Labor government amended the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management Act 1997 so that lot owners affected by the CSLE adjustment order could have their<br />

scheme’s lot entitlements reverted to their original settings. Labor’s 2011 amendments created a<br />

flawed and undemocratic system that needed to be fixed, and that is the purpose of this legislation. A<br />

reversion effectively overruled highly relevant and qualified orders of a court, tribunal or specialist<br />

adjudicator. There was no right of appeal for anyone in the community titles scheme who did not want<br />

the reversion to take place. The 2011 reversion process came under significant criticism from some<br />

lot owners and peak legal and stakeholder bodies for allowing a single lot owner to effectively<br />

overturn a lawful order. That is the crux of this matter.<br />

This is a highly emotive issue in my electorate of Burleigh. As members would understand, a lot<br />

of unit holders live in the Burleigh electorate. There must be hundreds of them. I would say that I have<br />

had the majority of those people through my office. I have been out and I have consulted unit owners.<br />

I have talked to just about everybody there is to talk to on this issue. I have some of the main<br />

protagonists in this issue living in my electorate—in fact, within a couple of hundred metres of my<br />

electoral office—with Mr Phil Williams, who is at Magic Mountain. Many members would recognise his<br />

name from emails that they may have received—and I apologise for those emails. On the other side<br />

of that particular issue is Mr Ian Leslie from 60 Minutes fame, and I am sure all members would<br />

remember Ian.<br />

As I said, I have had a lot of people come into my office about this issue. There has not been a<br />

couple of days go by that I have not had someone come in and talk to me about this particular issue.<br />

What I have had in my office are people on one side of this argument. I have had nobody on the other<br />

side of the argument come in and attempt to lobby me. So let us get that clear: there has been one<br />

side of this argument put out there. It is complete scare tactics that the member for Condamine, the<br />

member for Dalrymple and their mates over there have all been sucked into.<br />

Mr Hopper: Pick on me, you’ve only got two years.<br />

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Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr Berry): Order! Member for Burleigh, I just remind all honourable<br />

members that we have sat here and listened to each other speak and we honour the member by<br />

allowing him to speak uninterrupted. Member for Burleigh, please continue.<br />

Mr HART: Mr Deputy Speaker, thank you. They have quite clearly been sucked into the scare<br />

tactics that have been going around on this particular issue. This legislation is about undoing a wrong.<br />

In 2011 the Labor Party allowed one person to go to a body corporate meeting and undo a right<br />

decision of a judge or QCAT. They are making that decision based on the legislation. If at the end of<br />

the day in somebody’s view that decision is flawed, it does not make somebody happy, then we have<br />

a job to change that legislation. That is what the Attorney-General is proposing to do in the months<br />

ahead. As somebody who really is interested in this particular issue, I can tell members that I will be<br />

fully supporting the Attorney-General in looking at this issue. We have to get this issue right.<br />

I am a firm believer in the KISS principle—‘keep it simple, stupid’.<br />

Mr Rickuss interjected.<br />

Mr HART: I will not go there, member for Lockyer. You put forward a straightforward, simple,<br />

concise plan. I would have to say to members that I do not agree with the basis of equalisation. I have<br />

said that to everybody who comes into my office. When you talk to these people who are in those<br />

bodies corporate they will tell you that a person in a penthouse is paying the same as a person in a<br />

one-bedroom unit on the ground floor of a building, but they cannot show you those facts because<br />

those facts simply do not exist. I have asked over and over again for somebody to show me where<br />

the problem is—‘Show me the problem’—and I do not see the problem.<br />

Over the past four or five years body corporate fees have gone up. There is no doubt about<br />

that. The price of everything has gone up and we can blame most of that on the Labor Party from<br />

years ago. We have to get this right once and for all. A lot of this goes back to how the developer set<br />

up his lot entitlements right at the start. That is the crux of the matter. You then have somebody trying<br />

to get that right. They have gone off to a judiciary—they have gone off to QCAT, they have gone off to<br />

a judge—and they have sought a judicial response. The judicial response has come through and the<br />

Labor government did not like it. It went out and basically threw out a legal decision made by a judge,<br />

made by QCAT—something that was based on the legislation that we in this House put in place.<br />

As I said, we really have to get this right. I firmly encourage the Attorney-General to start<br />

looking at this issue. If he is looking for a volunteer to get involved in that, I will put up my hand. I am<br />

very happy to get involved in that. I am very happy to communicate with all of the bodies corporate on<br />

the Gold Coast, as I have been doing for the past six months. As I said, I have had a lot of these<br />

people who are concerned in my office. They have all come in saying, ‘I don’t understand the issue,’<br />

but I can tell members that, at the end of the day when they leave, they know that I understand the<br />

issue, they know that every other member representing an area on the Gold Coast understands the<br />

issue, they know that every other member representing an area on the Gold Coast is really quite<br />

concerned about this issue. We want to get it right and we will. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr HOBBS (Warrego—LNP) (1.16 am): I am pleased to speak to the Body Corporate and<br />

Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill. This bill is obviously a very<br />

important one. It affects the lives of many people throughout this state. I was very involved in this<br />

issue when I was the minister for natural resources. In early 1997 I brought in body corporate<br />

legislation. It was quite controversial. It was new. It was a change. We had to look at many things in a<br />

whole new way in relation to body corporate management. I can recall that, as we worked our way<br />

through this process and we had reached almost the final conclusion of what we were ready to<br />

present to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> I said, ‘How much process is involved in all of this?’ So we<br />

picked as an example a building in the CBD on the riverfront and said, ‘Let’s assume that this building<br />

is one of the ones that we want to trial. What paperwork is involved with these people who want to<br />

become a body corporate?’ So we went through that process and it came to about 70 or 80 pages. It<br />

was quite substantial, which was unacceptable. It was too cumbersome. So we went back and<br />

worked on the legislation again and got it to, we thought, a reasonable system whereby people did<br />

not have to go through all that amount of paperwork.<br />

So that is the way it started. But as we know, things have changed—communities change and<br />

attitudes change. So time goes by and legislation changes as well. I can still recall being in this<br />

chamber that night when we debated that legislation and there were amendments on the floor that<br />

were being made that probably were not appropriate, but it was assumed then that they would be<br />

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Here we are today and the objections to this bill before us are four-fold. The proposed bill to<br />

amend this legislation will remove the requirement for bodies corporate to undertake a process to<br />

adjust contribution schedule lot entitlements to reflect the original entitlements prior to any, and all,<br />

relevant orders of a court, tribunal or specialist adjudicator if a lot owner submits a motion requesting<br />

such a change—a significant change to where we have been before; establish a process for<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlements that were adjusted pursuant to the 2011 reversion process to be<br />

changed to reflect the lot entitlements that applied to the scheme prior to the application of the<br />

reversion process; remove unnecessary disclosure requirements imposed on sellers of lots in<br />

community titles schemes; and provide jurisdictional consistency for the resolution of disputes about<br />

contribution schedule lot entitlement adjustments.<br />

As members can see, there are some significant changes to this bill. The LNP opposed the<br />

2010 bill when it was introduced. The government understands the inequity in the current bodies<br />

corporate lot entitlement scheme and sorting out the mess left by those amendments is going to take<br />

some time. We are certainly very keen to work our way through that and make the best adjustments<br />

we can to ensure that we get to a reasonable solution.<br />

We must understand some of the history of community titles legislation in <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Community titles legislation was introduced across Australia in the 1960s. In a lot of ways it was<br />

different, but in <strong>Queensland</strong> through the Building Units Titles Act 1965 the act included the concept of<br />

unit entitlements which enabled a body corporate to levy contributions on lot owners in proportion to<br />

the unit entitlements of their respective units. The concept of lot entitlements was first introduced in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> under the Group Titles Act 1973 although this concept was similar to the unit<br />

entitlements under the 1965 act. Whereas the 1965 act dealt with subdivision of land and strata and<br />

other areas, the 1973 act dealt with group titles or horizontal titles—this is a bit complicated—which is<br />

town houses and cluster housing. Unlike the 1965 act, the 1973 act provided a method of determining<br />

lot entitlements which was based on unimproved value. That is the way that it was at that time.<br />

The 1965 and 1973 acts were later repealed and replaced with the Building Units and Group<br />

Titles Act 1980. Lot entitlements were determined in proportion to the unimproved value of all lots<br />

contained in the plan. Similar to its predecessors, the 1980 act did not provide for express methods of<br />

adjusting lot entitlements. The 1980 act did, however, provide for new types of resolutions—<br />

unanimous, without dissent and special—introduced new disclosure requirements and provided a<br />

dispute resolution process. In a lot of ways that is where that process of resolution really started. The<br />

1980 act was in force until it was replaced by the Body Corporate and Community Management Act,<br />

the current law that we have today.<br />

The Body Corporate and Community Management Act received royal assent on 22 May 1997. I<br />

was a minister at that time. The act was considered to have introduced significant reforms to<br />

community title legislation to accommodate emerging trends in community titling. The act comprised<br />

an umbrella act and a separate regulation module which provided detailed rules for the administration<br />

and the operation of the different types of schemes. There are currently five regulation modules.<br />

Similar to its predecessors, the Body Corporate Act used the concept of lot entitlements. Unlike the<br />

1980 act which uses a single schedule of lot entitlements, the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management Act provided two schedules of lot entitlements. The contribution schedule is used to<br />

determine a lot owner’s levy contribution and the value of the lot owner’s vote in the conduct of a poll.<br />

The interest schedule lot entitlement determines a lot owner’s share of common property, their<br />

interest in the determination of the scheme and the unimproved value of the lot for the purpose of the<br />

charge, the levy, the rate or tax paid to a local government or the Commissioner of Land Tax. That<br />

sounds a bit complicated, but that is the way the system was.<br />

The Body Corporate and Community Management Act also introduced the ability to adjust lot<br />

entitlements. This could be achieved by agreement between two or more lot owners, provided that the<br />

total lot entitlements of the lots subject to the change were not affected, by the consent of the body<br />

corporate by passing a resolution without dissent or on the application of a lot owner to the District<br />

Court for an order to adjust the lot entitlement schedule. For applications to the District Court to adjust<br />

a contribution schedule the court was required to be consistent with the principle that the respective<br />

lot entitlement should be equal except to the extent to which it is inequitable in the circumstances for<br />

them not to be equal. At the end of the day, if the application to the District Court was about the<br />

interest schedule, the court order was required to be consistent with the principle that the respective<br />

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an order, except to the extent where it is just and equitable in the circumstance for the individual lot<br />

entitlement to reflect other than the respective market values of the lots—that is, the market value of<br />

the principle. It is important to understand at this point that contribution schedule lot entitlements were<br />

not required to be equal for each lot included the scheme and interest schedule lot entitlements were<br />

not required to be directly proportional to the market value of the respective lots. This remained the<br />

case until 2003.<br />

(Time expired)<br />

Dr DAVIS (Stafford—LNP) (1.27 am): I rise to speak on the Body Corporate and Community<br />

Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012. These community title schemes affecting<br />

duplexes, town houses, residential complexes and medium- and high-density multifunction complexes<br />

are characterised by having shared costs and these are rarely reflective of the responsibilities that are<br />

divided between lot owners in proportion to the contribution schedule lot entitlements for the particular<br />

scheme.<br />

As many speakers have already referred to this evening, it is very much in the public interest<br />

that we get this right, particularly given our changing demographic. We are familiar with the ageing<br />

population, many of whom are represented this evening, and the need for an ageing population to live<br />

in an environment where they can be supported, have appropriate socialisation, the provision of<br />

services, as well as recreation and the ability for indeed people of all ages to benefit from mediumdensity<br />

settings where one can access retailing, hospitality and public transport services. Overseas<br />

we have seen a much greater density of communal living and so it is very likely that we are going to<br />

be going in that direction too. We need to have legislation—and it has been alluded to tonight that this<br />

is a work in progress—that really provides certainty to those interested in making the investment in<br />

this sort of environment and also clearly living in it.<br />

This matter definitely affects younger people, too. Many of them are expressing a desire for this<br />

sort of lifestyle. Indeed, my Stafford electoral officers are part of such a multifunctional environment,<br />

so I have seen it at work first-hand. One needs only to stay in touch with the electorates, as we have<br />

heard tonight, and read the blogs to know that the public are not happy with the status quo. People<br />

are certainly feeling scared of change. They do not wish to invest in these areas. Of course, that is<br />

bad for the economy generally, because we are not actually seeing one of the key pillars of the LNP<br />

policy, which is construction and, indeed, confidence in the general community and the ability to<br />

spend with confidence. That is contributing to the ongoing debt and revenue loss that is holding back<br />

this state.<br />

We have heard that historically developers have had a say in the relative contributions to the<br />

body corporate schemes and some of these, of course, were clearly distorted by the agendas of the<br />

developers. We are really looking for a much more consistent scheme. As has been the case in so<br />

many areas in this state, there has literally been a decade of lost opportunity. This government has<br />

inherited from Labor an area that is a mess. In relation to the matter before the House tonight, the<br />

most significant was the 2011 amendment to the Body Corporate and Community Management Act<br />

1997, which allowed the overturning of relevant orders of a court, tribunal or specialist adjudicator if a<br />

single lot owner submitted a motion requiring such a change. That was wonderful if you were a winner<br />

in that process, but clearly it was not so wonderful for your fellow unit holders who had to pick up the<br />

costs that were no longer shouldered by the winner.<br />

The 2011 reversion process has come under significant criticism by some lot owners, as well<br />

as peak legal and stakeholder bodies, for this process of allowing the single lot owner the ability to<br />

effectively overturn a lawful order of an independent court, tribunal or specialist adjudicator. Indeed, it<br />

is a breach of fundamental legislative principles where independent and lawful decisions of specialist<br />

adjudicators, tribunals and courts are effectively overridden not by superior judicial bodies but by<br />

simple motions presented to a body corporate or an individual aggrieved lot owner. This is one of the<br />

reasons this bill establishes a process for contribution schedule lot entitlements that can be adjusted<br />

pursuant to the 2011 reversion process to be changed back to reflect the situation prior to the<br />

application of the reversion process.<br />

A separate aspect of this bill, of course, is the LNP policy on reducing red tape. It removes<br />

unnecessary disclosure requirements imposed on sellers of lots in community title schemes. It really<br />

reinforces the notion of caveat emptor—beware, the buyer—and the need to do due diligence and get<br />

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The bill also begins the process of providing jurisdictional consistency for the resolution of disputes<br />

about contribution schedule lot adjustment entitlements. To ensure this, the bill provides for disputes<br />

about adjustments of contribution schedule lot entitlements by resolution without dissent to be<br />

resolved by special adjudicators or QCAT.<br />

One of the very important issues before the House tonight is good legislation. I refer to the very<br />

important notion of the rule of law, which was probably best articulated in 1610 in the petition to<br />

James 1 of England from the House of Commons. The petition states—<br />

Amongst many other points of happiness and freedom which your majesty’s subjects of this kingdom have enjoyed under your<br />

royal progenitors, kings and queens of this realm, there is none which they have accounted more dear and precious than this,<br />

to be guided and governed by the certain rule of the law which giveth both to the head and members that which of right<br />

belongeth to them, and not by any uncertain or arbitrary form of government ...<br />

Indeed, what we are addressing tonight is attempting to do away with that uncertainty and<br />

arbitrary form of government, which is actually denying happiness to the citizens of <strong>Queensland</strong>.<br />

Through the process that we have begun here tonight, we are enforcing the rule of law, which is one<br />

of the key dimensions that determines the quality and good governance of a country and, indeed, this<br />

state. On that basis, I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mr KING (Cairns—LNP) (1.34 am): It is an absolute pleasure and honour to rise to speak to the<br />

Body Corporate and Community Management and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012. I was<br />

drawn into the chamber rather like a moth to the headlights of a truck running out of control on the<br />

highway, because of the speech by the senator for—sorry—the member for Condamine. He was very<br />

excitable. I was in my room, watching the soccer. I flicked over to the stream here in parliament. I was<br />

entranced by the good senator—the good member for Condamine’s contribution on this important bill.<br />

I wandered down to the House and sat in this seat, because I was very interested in what the member<br />

for Condamine had to say. I sat here and I focused, so that I could understand where he was coming<br />

from on this important bill. To be honest, I could not understand a word he said. As hard as I tried, I<br />

could not understand where the member for Condamine was coming from. However, I was lucky<br />

enough to sit through some other more reasoned contributions to this important legislation. I thank my<br />

colleagues on this side of the House for their reasoned and responsible contributions to this important<br />

bill. In particular, I pay great respect to the member for Warrego for his historical knowledge on this<br />

important bill.<br />

This bill tackles, yet again, something that Labor never got to and something that Labor left in a<br />

mess.<br />

Mr Johnson: They created the mess.<br />

Mr KING: I take that interjection from the member for Gregory. This bill corrects the former<br />

government’s amendments to the act that gave the right of one lot owner to move a motion at a body<br />

corporate meeting that effectively overturned any adjustment order. One lot owner can move a motion<br />

and it can be passed upon the moving of that motion without one single vote being taken. That is<br />

unacceptable and it has caused huge concerns and trouble for so many unit owners, many of them in<br />

retirement. They just want to relax; they want to kick back. They do not want to have these types of<br />

blues with bodies corporate. Yet, the former government allowed that to fester and carry on.<br />

Mr Hobbs: Do you have many of these up in your area?<br />

Mr KING: I take that interjection. As Cairns is a perfect place and probably the best place in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> to retire, we have a very large retirement community. Units are incredibly popular and a<br />

new form of living, in fact, for many retirees. They like to downsize. There is no better place in<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> to do that than Cairns. This is a huge issue in Cairns. It has been left unresolved and it<br />

has only got worse. I commend the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice for bringing this<br />

important legislation to the House. The other important element of the legislation is that Cairns has a<br />

remarkably low unit vacancy rate. It is one of the lowest in this state. In Cairns, the vacancy rate for<br />

units is around 1.5 per cent, which is incredibly low. As one of my esteemed colleagues mentioned,<br />

the legislation will certainly help stimulate new investment in unit developments.<br />

Cairns, like many parts of <strong>Queensland</strong>, needs new investment. There is absolutely no doubt<br />

about that. It is clear that the legislation will effectively make it easier for people to invest. It will give<br />

them some certainty. It will give them some comfort and security. It will help encourage new<br />

investment in units in Cairns, there is no doubt about that. It will try to ease that remarkably low<br />

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There are a number of other important aspects of this amendment bill. It removes the<br />

requirement for bodies corporate to change their contribution schedule lot entitlements back to the<br />

original setting for any, and all, adjustment orders of a court, tribunal or specialist adjudicator following<br />

receipt of a motion. That is an important change that once again clears up another legislative mess<br />

that we inherited from the former Labor government. It also removes unnecessary disclosure<br />

requirements imposed on sellers of lots in community title schemes.<br />

As others in this House have pointed out, we know that young people in particular find<br />

community titles a unique way to enter the often difficult property market. It is important that we clear<br />

up and provide some certainty in terms of those community title schemes. It also provides<br />

jurisdictional clarity and consistency for disputes about contribution schedule lot entitlement<br />

adjustments. No-one feels that that is more important than I do.<br />

Another important aspect of this bill is that it continues the Newman government’s very strong<br />

record in less than 12 months of not only clearing up the mess of the previous government but also<br />

reducing red tape and providing certainty for people who just want to get on with their lives, business<br />

and new investment. We know how difficult it has been for so many years as legislation has piled up<br />

due to the paternalistic way of running government that is the Labor way. We have had a very strong<br />

record in just under 12 months of reducing red tape and providing certainty in a whole range of fields.<br />

This bill certainly continues that trend. I have no doubt that that trend of the Newman government will<br />

continue.<br />

In closing, I commend the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice’s team. They have done a<br />

fantastic job. I fully commend the Body Corporate and Community Management and Other Legislation<br />

Amendment Bill 2012 to the House.<br />

Debate, on motion of Mr Stevens, adjourned.<br />

CRIME AND MISCONDUCT COMMISSION (ADMINISTRATIVE NEGLIGENCE<br />

RECTIFICATION) AMENDMENT BILL<br />

Introduction<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (1.42 am):<br />

Before moving on, can I thank the justice department staff for staying around until all hours of the<br />

morning for that particular bill. I present a bill for an act to amend the Crime and Misconduct Act 2001<br />

for a particular purpose. I table the bill and the explanatory notes.<br />

Tabled paper: Crime and Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence Rectification) Amendment Bill 2013 [2213].<br />

Tabled paper: Crime and Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence Rectification) Amendment Bill 2013, explanatory<br />

notes [2214].<br />

I introduce the Crime and Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence Rectification)<br />

Amendment Bill 2013. This government has acted quickly to ensure that the use and disclosure of<br />

sensitive information and material from the Fitzgerald Commission of Inquiry is stemmed. Members<br />

will now be aware that between 1 February 2012 and 5 March 2013 documents from the Fitzgerald<br />

inquiry have been accessible and accessed due to the restricted access period for the records having<br />

been incorrectly changed from 65 years to 25 years. This is an administrative oversight that is<br />

alarming and serious and completely unacceptable.<br />

Examinations are now occurring into how this release of information has occurred. We need to<br />

ascertain what documents may have been accessed to ensure that any damage caused by their<br />

release is limited or avoided. For example, this government is concerned to ensure that documents<br />

which include information about murder suspects, secret informants, undercover agents, drug<br />

operations and unsubstantiated allegations of corruption are not available for public use or disclosure.<br />

The bill does that as far as is possible in the short time frame we have had to develop it.<br />

A new section 346A is inserted into the Crime and Misconduct Act 2001. This section makes it<br />

an offence to copy, use for any purpose or disclose certain documents for a period from 8 March<br />

2013 to 8 May 2013 inclusive. In addition, giving access to certain documents during this period will<br />

also be an offence.<br />

The documents to which the act applies is Fitzgerald inquiry documents disclosed or accessed<br />

from the State Archives during the relevant period—that is, from 1 February 2012 to 5 March 2013. A<br />

penalty applies to any person who contravenes this new provision. The maximum penalty is one year<br />

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Exceptions apply to this, including, for example, where a person might be required to produce<br />

the document to a court, tribunal or commission of inquiry or where such copying, use or disclosure or<br />

giving of access is permitted by the Crime and Misconduct Act 2001. The last exception is important<br />

as the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee will be undertaking an investigation into the<br />

circumstances surrounding the release of this information. The reasoning for the 60-day prohibition is<br />

to allow the investigation to be conducted and completed but also to ensure that where access, use,<br />

copying and disclosure of released documents is appropriate that this will be available after 60 days.<br />

The government makes no apologies for seeking leave for these amendments to be passed as<br />

a matter of urgency. Can I assure the House and the public that these legislative amendments are not<br />

intended for the CMC or any other body to seize documents that have been lawfully accessed by<br />

individuals. For those documents that have been lawfully accessed by individuals and in the<br />

possession of those individuals, this legislation does not give any power for those documents to be<br />

required to be handed in to anyone. It is absolutely vital that the identity of confidential informants and<br />

protected witnesses named in the documents are protected.<br />

Can I also make it abundantly clear that the penalty provisions in this new bill will apply from<br />

the date of commencement being 8 March 2013. This bill in its entirety is not intended to apply to<br />

those persons who may have lawfully accessed the documents and published them prior to 8 March<br />

or the commencement date of this bill.<br />

In summing up the debate on the bill, I will table further documentation from the Crime and<br />

Misconduct Commission chair that I indicated earlier in the House. As this is an introductory speech, I<br />

do not think it is appropriate to do that at this juncture. I will have the debate in this House and then<br />

table the necessary documents at the appropriate time during the debate. I commend the bill to the<br />

House.<br />

First Reading<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (1.48 am): I<br />

move—<br />

That the bill be now read a first time.<br />

Question put—That the bill be now read a first time.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Bill read a first time.<br />

Declared Urgent; Allocation of Time Limit Order<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (1.48 am), by<br />

leave, without notice: I move—<br />

That, under the provisions of standing order 137, the Crime and Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence<br />

Rectification) Amendment Bill be declared an urgent bill to enable the bill to be passed through its remaining stages at this<br />

day’s sitting.<br />

Question put—That the motion be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Second Reading<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (1.49 am): I<br />

move—<br />

That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) (Leader of the Opposition) (1.49 am): I do want to echo the<br />

words of the Attorney-General in relation to the Crime and Misconduct Commission amendment bill.<br />

What we have seen over the last few days has been alarming and it has been extremely<br />

unacceptable, and I do think that everyone in this House tonight would share with the sentiment that<br />

this matter needs urgent investigation. This bill is very clear in that we need to make sure that what<br />

has been released is protected. Confidentiality is extremely important and I do want to put it into<br />

context and give a bit of history around the Fitzgerald inquiry which then will address the matters of<br />

the bill.


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The Fitzgerald inquiry managed to get evidence from a wide range of sources, and one of the<br />

reasons it was able to do this was the reputation of Tony Fitzgerald, who headed the inquiry. He was<br />

able to give commitments to witnesses that their identity or aspects of their evidence would remain<br />

confidential. I cannot emphasise enough the very real risk of harm, even of death, that some of these<br />

witnesses faced if their identity were ever known. Their courage in coming forward has changed the<br />

face of <strong>Queensland</strong> forever. That is why confidentiality was important at the time and why it remains<br />

important until today. That is why for some of the documents confidentiality was guaranteed for up to<br />

100 years.<br />

I will quote from the Fitzgerald report about why confidentiality needed to be maintained. It<br />

states—<br />

It was a fundamental tenet of the conduct of the Commission that its proceedings should be conducted in public and that<br />

material produced at public hearings should be available for public scrutiny. There had to be some constraints placed upon this<br />

policy because much of the material was open to abuse if it had come into the wrong hands.<br />

The question of confidentiality had the potential to create real difficulty. Persons who approached the Commission were often<br />

frightened, and sought some iron clad assurance of confidentiality, usually as to their identity, but not infrequently as to the<br />

information or material which they provided. It was not possible to give these informants a blanket undertaking, not only<br />

because of the obligations and duties imposed by the terms of reference but also because of the operation of legal process<br />

which could in some circumstances compel an officer of the Commission in possession of documentation to produce it before a<br />

Court.<br />

In these circumstances, the Commission adopted a policy that confidentiality would be provided by telling those who came to<br />

deal with it requesting confidentiality that such confidentiality would be provided as follows:<br />

“Confidentiality is assured with regard to the identity of persons who assist the Commission and the information and documents<br />

which they provide, in so far as that is appropriate and consistent with the discharge of the Commission’s functions.”<br />

The breach of this confidentiality is therefore a very serious matter. Revelations by the CMC<br />

this week that an administrative error had resulted in a number of documents being wrongly classified<br />

so as to allow for their access by the public from the State Archives must have sent a shudder of fear<br />

down a number of the spines of former witnesses to the Fitzgerald inquiry. Even though over 20 years<br />

have passed, the threat to witnesses still remains real.<br />

I would like to thank the Attorney, the Treasurer and the Deputy Premier for giving me and the<br />

Independents an opportunity to be briefed on this bill tonight. It was necessary. This is<br />

unprecedented. We have not seen anything like this, I do not believe, in <strong>Queensland</strong> before. It is<br />

crucial that as a parliament we consider these matters in light of what has come before us in the last<br />

few days. I understand that the PCMC has been meeting in relation to this matter. The opposition will<br />

be supporting this bill, Attorney. We believe that it is in the best interests of <strong>Queensland</strong>ers to make<br />

sure that the confidentiality is protected. So I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Mrs CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—Ind) (1.53 am): As chair of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and<br />

Misconduct Committee, I would like to place on the record my thanks to the Attorney-General for the<br />

tabling of this bill, which will protect persons who may be adversely affected by the release of the<br />

information, and for the attention he has paid to this emergent issue. Again, for the purposes of<br />

transparency, I present to the House a timetable of events in relation to this issue.<br />

The <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee became aware on late Tuesday<br />

afternoon 5 March 2013, in a general way, that the CMC had, in error, released confidential material.<br />

The seriousness of this issue became more evident when the committee’s attention was drawn to the<br />

article in the Australian on Wednesday, 6 March 2013. On Wednesday, in spite of committee<br />

members’ obligations to other committees, an emergency meeting of the committee was called for<br />

midday. The committee called the chairperson of the CMC to attend that meeting. He attended and<br />

was accompanied by Mr Warren Strange, CMC Assistant Commissioner, Misconduct.<br />

At that meeting, the chairperson of the CMC was unable to adequately explain to the<br />

committee exactly how or why the release had occurred. It became increasingly evident to the<br />

committee that the security of information provided by people who had given evidence on a<br />

confidential basis to the Fitzgerald inquiry was significantly compromised. The committee canvassed<br />

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which had become more apparent to the committee, including the possibility of injunctive relief. The<br />

CMC advised on the basis of preliminary legal advice it had received that the probability of injunctive<br />

relief was considered to hold poor prospects of success.<br />

The committee felt that urgent action was required to protect, as much as possible, the integrity<br />

of the information provided by, and potentially the safety of, those people. A critical factor in<br />

determining a way forward was to understand the process followed by the State Archives in<br />

facilitating lawful public access to documents that should have retained a protected status but which<br />

had, as a result of decisions made within the CMC, compromised that protection.<br />

The committee determined that, in order to be apprised and informed in the manner it required,<br />

a summons would need to be issued to the <strong>Queensland</strong> State Archivist to assist the committee’s<br />

understanding of this matter and to address any perceived legal impediments to the committee being<br />

able to obtain such information. The summons was served on Wednesday evening at approximately<br />

7.30 pm, requiring the State Archivist to attend a committee hearing at midday today, Thursday, 7<br />

March 2013, and to produce all documents in her possession which would reveal the nature of the<br />

documents accessed and the extent of access to those documents as a result of changes to the<br />

restricted access period as directed by CMC officers.<br />

In tandem with the serving of the summons, the committee also wrote to the Attorney-General<br />

to request that he commence drafting urgent corrective legislative to prohibit the republication of the<br />

information from the Fitzgerald inquiry files in the possession of the State Archivist which were<br />

transferred from the CMC to the State Archives between July 2007 and February 2010, and I table a<br />

copy of the committee’s correspondence to the Attorney-General.<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 6 March 2013, to the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, from the chair<br />

of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee, Mrs Liz Cunningham MP, regarding a request for urgent legislation in<br />

relation to released Fitzgerald inquiry documents [2215].<br />

Today, in accordance with the summons, the committee met with the State Archivist and her<br />

staff. The discussion which ensued with them went some way to clarify for the committee the<br />

processes of the State Archives and the level of access which has already occurred in relation to the<br />

Fitzgerald documents and gave an indication of the extent of the risk created. However, the<br />

committee is awaiting further information from the State Archivist requested as a result of the hearing.<br />

The committee then recalled the chairperson of the CMC and Mr Warren Strange to discuss a<br />

request by the Attorney-General for a letter from the CMC which would publicly call on the<br />

government to legislate amendments and provide an explanation to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> why<br />

such legislative amendments were necessary as a result of the prior actions of the CMC. The<br />

Attorney-General’s letter in reply demonstrates that the Attorney understood the seriousness of the<br />

PCMC’s request and indicates the gravity of the request being made. I table a copy of the Attorney’s<br />

letter to the committee.<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, to the chair of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee, Mrs Liz<br />

Cunningham MP, from the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, regarding a request for urgent<br />

legislation in relation to released Fitzgerald inquiry documents. [2216]<br />

Throughout all proceedings the committee has held in relation to this matter, the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary<br />

Crime and Misconduct Committee’s major concern was to expedite an effective remedy to protect<br />

those people who approximately 30 years ago bravely gave evidence with the expectation of<br />

protection and anonymity. We thank the Attorney-General for attending a meeting with the committee<br />

this afternoon, at which the committee endeavoured to clarify for the Attorney-General information the<br />

committee had available to it given the limited time available to the committee since the initial advice<br />

from the CMC which alerted the committee to this issue. We also acknowledge the Attorney-<br />

General’s forthright communication with the committee.<br />

The committee acknowledges the Attorney-General’s statement to the House tonight at<br />

approximately eight o’clock, at which time he also tabled a letter he had received from the chair of the<br />

CMC. The committee understands that that letter was intended to address the Attorney-General’s<br />

request for an acknowledgement by the CMC of its role and responsibility in relation to the mistaken<br />

release of the documents in addition to the CMC’s request for a legislative response. The Attorney-<br />

General also tabled his reply to the CMC’s letter which indicated that the CMC’s correspondence fell<br />

short of the Attorney-General’s expectations.<br />

The committee has endeavoured to act expeditiously in exercising its responsibilities under the<br />

Crime and Misconduct Act 2001 and to balance our responsibilities under that act to oversight the<br />

CMC with the clear need to move to create protective mechanisms for those people who may have<br />

been identified in those documents. We appreciate the protection that is afforded by this legislation<br />

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commissioner, the CMC and the <strong>Queensland</strong> public, through this House, to gain a clearer<br />

understanding and to make recommendations to achieve a balance between long-term protection of<br />

highly sensitive evidence and appropriate community access to documents of public interest into the<br />

future.<br />

The committee appreciates that these matters, because of their seriousness, require a swift<br />

response and values the assistance and frank advice from all those individuals and organisations the<br />

committee has approached. We again thank the Attorney-General for his urgent attention to these<br />

matters and his measured response and support the bill.<br />

Mr DOWLING (Redlands—LNP) (2.01 am): It is a pleasure to rise to speak in support of the<br />

Crime and Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence Rectification) Amendment Bill 2013.<br />

As a relatively new member of the PCMC, I have been on quite a steep learning curve. It has been<br />

incredibly interesting to see firsthand how the CMC operates. While I am mindful of the sensitivity of<br />

many of the issues that come before our committee, I am also mindful of the fact that our role is one<br />

of oversight; it is not necessarily one of engagement. It is about monitoring the activities and the<br />

processes of the CMC.<br />

I take on board the comments made by the Attorney-General earlier today about being more<br />

open and more transparent. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers need to know and have confidence in the operations of<br />

both the CMC and the PCMC. If justice is to be done it needs to be seen to be done. In many ways it<br />

is about shining a light into some dark places, ensuring full, frank and fearless scrutiny of the CMC in<br />

an open and transparent way. I look forward to working with the PCMC into the future to serve<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>ers. I commend the bill to the House.<br />

Dr DOUGLAS (Gaven—Ind) (2.02 am): The only reason we should be here at this early hour of<br />

the morning is to pass that legislation specifically requested by the PCMC chair and the CMC chair—<br />

no less, no more. Members might have personal opinions on all sorts of issues that may have no<br />

basis in fact. For very good reasons, information held by the CMC remains confidential, possibly<br />

forever. Sadly, as with all organisations, there are times when any system controlling security does<br />

not work. Part of the system has failed on this occasion. I do not want to add to the content of the<br />

matter. I support the legislation. I congratulate all members on their actions tonight, restoring stability<br />

to the system.<br />

I have spent 20 years of my life dealing with major criminals and custodial matters and all sorts<br />

of matters relating to them. I am the former chair of the PCMC and the Ethics Committee and am a<br />

longstanding member of both committees. It has largely been done in secret and it has all been<br />

confidential.<br />

In Australia the Attorney-General is first a politician, heads a government department and is<br />

vested with numerous statutory powers. But the Attorney-General must be independent and, by<br />

custom, not subject to the direction of cabinet. He must exercise his various powers and interests in<br />

the public interest. But he is not the guardian of public interest; the chair of the PCMC has that role.<br />

The Attorney-General is the guardian of the administration of justice. When challenged, it is the<br />

tribunal to which he must refer.<br />

The PCMC is a standing royal commission. If the standing royal commission has made<br />

statements that instruct us what must be done to maintain public confidence in the process, then that<br />

is what the Attorney-General must do. He must chart a course dependent on the PCMC chair and, by<br />

default in this case, the relevant tribunal independent to which he may refer, as former High Court<br />

Chief Justice Gerard Brennan has said he must.<br />

The Attorney-General has no choice but to do exactly that which the CMC chair, as effectively<br />

the proxy of the PCMC chair in this situation, has specifically requested the Attorney-General to do—<br />

no more, no less. The reason is that the CMC chair, on behalf of the CMC, is charged under section<br />

174 of using all and any of its powers to do everything that ensures the proper function of the CMC<br />

itself.<br />

The CMC has a defined role in maintaining the security of its own confidential information in<br />

any and all forms. This is incontestable. Irrespective of whatever has occurred, whatever the length of<br />

time, the act, in my reading and the reading of others, indicates clearly that this is what must happen.<br />

The CMC must take immediate action which could include many extraordinary actions, not unlike<br />

having a massive immunisation shot, to ensure that our capacity to secure ourselves is protected. I<br />

put it to all members and the executive: whilst under normal circumstances we could do more than<br />

was requested by the CMC, these it could be said are not normal circumstances. That gives the CMC<br />

greater powers which do include the capacity to make specific directions to the Attorney-General to<br />

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The act means that, if the government or anyone else in any way attempts to interfere with the<br />

CMC, immediate action to secure in this case confidential information is in immediate breach of the<br />

CMC Act itself. The protection mechanism is the PCMC chair, whose role at all times, over and above<br />

everything, is to maintain public confidence in the process. That is exactly what has occurred in this<br />

process. Therefore at all times of great stress or problems within the CMC, the CMC and the PCMC<br />

have greater powers to ensure that they will survive whatever challenges face them.<br />

The committee has the right to immediately form a royal commission, empower the part-time<br />

commissioner, secure any budget it requires and immediately inquire into what is needed to address<br />

whatever problems confront it, as it is doing now. The government—more the executive<br />

government—can do nothing, and any legislation that it passes that interferes in any way with the<br />

capacity and function of the CMC has the capacity to be challenged and is likely to be denied royal<br />

assent in these circumstances. And anyone impeding its actions is likely to face a charge of<br />

contempt.<br />

Therefore tonight all we can do is do exactly that requested by the chair, Mr Ross Martin, under<br />

the direction of the PCMC chair, the member for Gladstone. The Attorney-General must not reflect in<br />

any adverse manner on Mr Ross Martin and the chair of the PCMC, the member for Gladstone. There<br />

is no opportunity for the government to implement any changes that the government wishes to<br />

impose on the CMC for whatever reason it wishes if it is over and above that which the CMC chair<br />

has requested and by default the PCMC chair. There is a logic to why the CMC might function in this<br />

manner at this time. For those who cannot see it, the biological equivalent is that the body is designed<br />

to save itself in times of crisis because if it dies then it is of no use to anyone.<br />

Hon. TJ NICHOLLS (Clayfield—LNP) (Treasurer and Minister for Trade) (2.07 am): The<br />

government has acted speedily to protect the interests of those people who may be placed in danger,<br />

those whose reputations may be in peril and others whom the unauthorised and negligent release of<br />

this information has put in harm’s way. I must say that it is concerning—and it should be concerning<br />

to all of us—that this parliament has been forced to act in this very short period of time to rectify what<br />

is in my view a quite unacceptable administrative failure by the CMC.<br />

I have had a look at the correspondence that has flowed between the Attorney-General and the<br />

CMC over the last 12 hours or so. There is still no adequate explanation provided to this House for<br />

the steps the CMC and its chairman have taken to rectify the error—an error that was brought to the<br />

attention of the PCMC only in the last 24 hours, as explained by the member for Gladstone.<br />

In circumstances where we are forced to act so unusually, I think it behoves us to look at the<br />

position of the chair of the CMC and ask indeed what responsibility he takes for this failure of action.<br />

We learn that the CMC themselves knew of this error in May last year and instruction was apparently<br />

issued to ‘fix’ the situation, yet nothing had been done for three or four months.<br />

In fact, it was only when a journalist from the Australian newspaper asked questions that the<br />

matter actually came to light and action was necessary to be taken. In those circumstances, whilst the<br />

release of the material between 2007 and 2009 was not the responsibility of the chairman, it was the<br />

responsibility of the chairman to fix the error, to fix it promptly and to brook no delay. That does not<br />

seem to have occurred.<br />

So here we are at 10 past two in the morning forced on very short notice, through quite<br />

extraordinary circumstances—as the Leader of the Opposition has said—to draft, prepare, introduce<br />

and pass legislation in order to rectify what seems to be a quite extraordinary lapse in administrative<br />

procedure, in administrative oversight, by those in charge of the CMC. I do reflect very much on the<br />

notion of responsibility in the same way that we have ministerial responsibility and ministers take<br />

responsibility for their actions or their failure to take actions sometimes in quite severe circumstances<br />

on the position of the chairman and his senior officers in respect of their capacity and ability to<br />

adequately oversight the operations of the CMC and to fix these administrative errors.<br />

This bill is important. It is necessary to protect, for a short period, the information that has been<br />

made available; it is limited to 60 days. I do not want to pre-empt further debate, but honourable<br />

members will see that other steps are necessary in order to ensure us and the people of <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

that the operations of the CMC are being effectively and adequately maintained and the appropriate<br />

responsibility is being taken by the chairman.<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (2.10 am), in<br />

reply: I thank all members for their contribution. I place on record that the government is reluctant to<br />

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from the administration of the CMC, particularly the leadership of the CMC. As the honourable<br />

chairman of the PCMC would know, I have taken this reluctant step—a necessary step—to protect<br />

either the identity of informants or, as I said in the explanatory speech, other issues of importance,<br />

particularly the safety and wellbeing of some of those people. I do want to address for the record a<br />

few of the things that have happened since I updated the House earlier this evening.<br />

I tabled correspondence that I had received from the CMC chair at 5.30 this afternoon. I then<br />

tabled correspondence that I had sent back—and I read it into Hansard—in response to the<br />

chairman’s letter. I received a response prior to the 10 pm deadline last night by which time I had<br />

requested the CMC get back to me. I think it is only fair that I now read that response. This response<br />

also shows a couple of things of importance that I ought to bring to the attention of the House. This<br />

letter is dated 7 March 2013 and it was received earlier this evening, just prior to 10 pm. It states—<br />

Dear Attorney-General<br />

I refer to your letter of earlier this evening. The deadline you have set prevents me from answering every issue you raise in<br />

your letter. I am sure you will accept that the safety and privacy of the individuals whose affairs are referred to in the material<br />

under discussion and which may have become public is the priority in the present circumstances.<br />

You are aware that the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee has sought from you legislation of the sort I drew to<br />

your attention in my letter of earlier this evening. The <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee is my oversight body,<br />

and I defer to its judgement that legislation was necessary. I also agree with it. In any event, we have preliminary advice as I<br />

referred to in my previous letter about the prospects of an injunction. Absent that, there would appear to be no avenues open to<br />

resolve the issue otherwise.<br />

I am aware that you declined to introduce the legislation proposed without a letter from me that set out in relatively short order a<br />

number of things. I provided that letter in the terms that I understood was requested of me. I was not informed that you required<br />

a draft or any preliminary description of such legislation. Indeed I have had no contact from you about the matter at all.<br />

In an endeavour to address the priority issue which I have outlined above, I agreed to your request for my letter. My letter was<br />

expressed in contingent terms because you were the one who requested it, as I understood matters, and so I was unaware of<br />

what you then proposed.<br />

Earlier this evening, and after my letter was sent, your staff and the staff of the Department of Justice, as well as the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary draftsperson, engaged with me in preparing legislation of the sort I have referred to. When I arrived at the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary draftsperson’s office, it was well under way and close to complete. While in the middle of that process, staff of<br />

the Department of Justice acting apparently on instructions indicated that the preparation was to occur without any assistance<br />

from the CMC. I am at a loss to understand why, in light of your letter. I have not seen a final draft of the work being prepared in<br />

the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary draftsperson’s office, but at the point I was required to leave, the matter was well advanced and it seems<br />

satisfactorily so, subject to perusal of the final draft. I am in no position independently to prepare legislation within the time<br />

frame required by you. It would be irresponsible of me, however, not to examine the final draft of the Bill presently under<br />

preparation.<br />

You make assertions about when the CMC became aware of the problem; given the deadline, now is not the place to engage<br />

in debate on that point.<br />

I request that you table this letter this evening and have it read into Hansard. A copy will be provided to the members of the<br />

PCMC.<br />

I table a copy of this letter.<br />

Tabled paper: Letter, dated 7 March 2013, to the Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, Hon. Jarrod Bleijie, from the chair<br />

of the Crime and Misconduct Committee, Mr Ross Martin, regarding a request for urgent legislation in relation to released<br />

Fitzgerald inquiry documents [2217].<br />

Let me set the record straight. The chairman says in his first paragraph ‘the deadline you have<br />

set me’. I would not have had to set a deadline had the government not been forced into a position by<br />

the CMC chair with respect to an ability or a legislative amendment to fix the problem created by the<br />

CMC in the first place. It was not government, it was not the State Archivist, it was not the opposition,<br />

it was not the Katter party, it was not anyone in this House; it was the CMC and the administration of<br />

the CMC that was at fault here. So I really get offended when we are then blamed because we have<br />

set a deadline for a response. It would have been wrong for the government to just sign up and come<br />

into this place without any real discussion and without challenging the CMC as to the purpose, who<br />

we were trying to protect and what documents we were trying to protect. That is what we sought from<br />

the CMC. If we are to be asked to conduct this extraordinary debate tonight and have members sit<br />

here till after two o’clock in the morning on a Friday, then the least we could have had from the CMC<br />

was a proper explanation of why they wanted to do it and why they wanted parliament to fix the<br />

administrative mess that the CMC created.<br />

It also says in his letter that ‘I am aware that you declined to introduce the legislation proposed<br />

without a letter from me’. The honourable member for Gladstone has tabled correspondence between<br />

the PCMC and me that I received yesterday and that I responded to earlier this morning. In that<br />

correspondence I made it abundantly clear that, if the CMC wants parliament or the government’s<br />

assistance or, for that matter, my assistance in drafting legislation to fix this mess, then the CMC<br />

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stuff-up, explain what went wrong, take full responsibility for the actions of the CMC as its chairman<br />

and to tell us what he wants government to do about it. A whole day passed and I know that the<br />

PCMC held meetings today with various witnesses, and I volunteered my own time during the<br />

commercial arbitration bill debate to avail myself to the committee for probing. The issue is that none<br />

of us in this House created this issue.<br />

When the chairman of the PCMC tabled the correspondence, the correspondence that I wrote<br />

back to the CMC clearly said that ‘we are reluctant to do it but we will engage in discussion on the<br />

condition that the CMC chairman go out there and publicly explain’. Then this afternoon the CMC<br />

chairman said to me, ‘You have declined to introduce the legislation proposed without a letter from<br />

me.’ No, I wanted a public statement. I wanted the CMC chair not to send me a letter but to stand in<br />

front of a camera and explain to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong> what went so horribly wrong with this<br />

situation. But at the end because of time I said to the PCMC chair whose committee was interrogating<br />

people at the time, that a letter will suffice as long as a full explanation is given as to why the CMC<br />

chairman wants us to engage in this debate and go down this path. Then the chairman said, ‘I was<br />

not informed that you required a draft of any preliminary description of such legislation.’<br />

I never requested the CMC chair to draft the legislation. I never requested the CMC to partake<br />

in the role of the Office of <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Counsel and assist in drafting legislation. That is not the<br />

CMC’s role. I wanted the CMC chair to tell us what he wanted and then we would attend to the<br />

drafting during the normal process—that is, the Office of <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Counsel would attend to the<br />

drafting of the bill. All I wanted was either a public statement to tell us what he wanted or a letter.<br />

Members would know that the letter I tabled earlier was completely unsatisfactory and insufficient of<br />

information to even make me form the view and to advise my colleagues the ministers that we ought<br />

do this tonight.<br />

As I said, we are reluctantly doing this because people who accessed these documents did so<br />

lawfully. They did so lawfully and that is why we do it reluctantly, because they do have information<br />

that they were able to access, albeit in administrative error or oversight, unsatisfactory as it may be<br />

from the CMC. They obtained the information lawfully and so as a government we believe that they<br />

are entitled to the documentation. That is why we make it abundantly clear that this legislation will in<br />

no way give anyone any power to seize any documents back or request any documents back from<br />

these individuals who have these documents in their possession. The CMC chair then goes on in his<br />

letter—<br />

I am in no position independently to prepare legislation within the time frame required by you.<br />

I was not asking for a time frame to prepare legislation; we were the ones being asked to<br />

prepare legislation. The parliamentarians—the legislators—were the ones asked to be here at all<br />

hours of the morning to pass this legislation. I really think the CMC chair has just misinterpreted the<br />

whole issue. I did not want him to draft legislation. I did not want him to assist in the drafting of<br />

legislation. I wanted him to tell us what he wanted. If he had of told us earlier in the day what he<br />

wanted and why he wanted it and why he wanted us to take this course of action, then no doubt we<br />

would have been in a position to respond earlier than we have. So I am not going to cop any criticism<br />

from the CMC chair now or in the future or tomorrow that says that the government delayed its<br />

reaction to this, because I think the documentation that the PCMC chair tabled tonight clearly shows<br />

that we have gone out of our way to assist the CMC to fix the mess created by the CMC in the first<br />

place.<br />

I want to deal with some of the issues raised in the debate. The CMC’s job, as has been<br />

indicated tonight, is to protect the sensitive documents from particular disclosure. I think that all<br />

honourable members understand that the issue now that the documentation has been able to be<br />

accessed for a number of months means that we have to, through this legislation, offer a level of<br />

protection to the people. We still do not know what level of protection this is trying to afford to people<br />

because we still do not know who has got what and who saw what. It has not been made public in<br />

terms of who reviewed this documentation, and this will be a process and we are not going to get into<br />

that debate. We will have that a little later. This will all come out in the wash eventually. What we are<br />

doing now is fixing the immediate problem, which of course is the corrective legislation.<br />

The public, as I said earlier today, should have absolute faith in the Crime and Misconduct<br />

Commission and I submit that I think that faith has been tested in the last 48 hours with this issue. I<br />

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take particular issue with the member for Gaven’s contribution tonight when he said that it is the<br />

Attorney-General’s responsibility to restore integrity in the CMC. It is not my responsibility to restore<br />

integrity in the CMC; it is the CMC’s responsibility to restore integrity.<br />

Dr DOUGLAS: I rise to a point of order. Check the Hansard. I did not say that.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Please take your seat. That is not a point of order.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I think that it is timely that we consider these issues—the unfortunate issues—that<br />

have arisen in the last 48 hours. As we proceed into the closure of the Callinan inquiry into the CMC,<br />

nothing could be more timely than this issue. As I was asked in the briefing afforded to the opposition<br />

leader, nothing will change with that inquiry and it will proceed as planned. As I indicated to the<br />

member, as far as I know everything will be on track for 14 March. But if the Hon. Ian Callinan comes<br />

to me in light of the issues of late and wants a little more time to add an addendum to his report, then<br />

I will positively look upon that. It is completely separate to what we are doing and I think that he ought<br />

to be given the opportunity to fulfil his report in the time frame that he has. I also thank the member<br />

for Gladstone for tabling those documents. Members will recall that some 12 hours ago I was in this<br />

place talking about the PCMC and the CMC and the frustration I have had over the last 12 months<br />

getting documents tabled, and I do thank the member for Gladstone for taking that on board and<br />

tabling documents so the public can be fully abreast of all of the issues that we are dealing with in this<br />

debate.<br />

As I said categorically, these measures do not confer any seizure powers for documentation<br />

that has been out there in the public domain or in the private domain of individuals who have seen<br />

these documents. As I indicated in my explanatory speech, if there have been situations where<br />

people have accessed these documents and they have printed them already, then the penalties<br />

applicable in this legislation are not intended to apply if they lawfully obtained the documentation and<br />

may have printed them without knowing the issue at hand. So it is the government’s clear intention<br />

through this bill that the penalty provisions will apply from commencement—that is, 8 March 2013,<br />

today. So the penalty provisions will apply to documentation that is reproduced from commencement<br />

date and not if people have lawfully obtained the documents that have somehow been printed, and<br />

we are not sure if there are. We are not sure. There is a lot of information in the public domain at the<br />

moment. We are not sure or able to ascertain directly whether there has been that issue, but I just put<br />

on record that if it does become an issue in the future I am making the intention plain that it is not the<br />

intention to go after people who may have lawfully obtained the documents but reproduced them prior<br />

to today.<br />

The Treasurer talked about responsibility. I believe this government is one of the most open<br />

and accountable governments in this country. This week we had the release of diaries. We have had<br />

an abundance of RTI request applications. This government is the first government in Australia to<br />

release diaries, and the member for Bundamba can shake her head. If she can make an interjection<br />

and tell me right now what other Australian jurisdiction—Premier, Chief Minister or Prime Minister—<br />

tables their diaries and opens their office to the world at large, make the interjection and tell me that<br />

I am wrong. I thought so. Silence is bliss! I thought so. Member for Bundamba—<br />

Mr Nicholls: When’s she going to release her diary?<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I take the interjection from the Treasurer. She shakes her head about us releasing<br />

our diaries but at the same time never released her diary. She is a shadow minister now.<br />

Mrs Miller interjected.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: Yes, laugh about it. We know the registers they kept and the archives. We do not<br />

know if they have even been kept. So the member for Bundamba can say a lot about this, but the<br />

point is this: this government is the most open and accountable government in this country. I called on<br />

the Prime Minister today to follow this government’s lead and release her diaries, and I raised this<br />

issue as a matter of relevance because in this democracy that we live in where we talk about<br />

ministerial responsibility we also need to talk about senior public officials and independent statutory<br />

officers having and taking responsibility for actions in their departments or offices. The Treasurer<br />

talked about that tonight and we have had ministers in this government in this term take responsibility<br />

for their actions and we have seen the consequences of those actions with those decisions that were<br />

made. I implore the CMC chairman, who has responsibility for the CMC and the administration of the<br />

CMC, to seriously consider and accept the consequences of the administration of the CMC and the<br />

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That is his duty. That is his role. Just like it is with ministerial accountability, so too comes<br />

accountability in public office, particularly the one that <strong>Queensland</strong>ers should look up to of having the<br />

most integrity and accountability. I question that, on the day we debate the report about a CMC officer<br />

going to be terminated but resigning, we have now had this event over the past 48 hours where<br />

sensitive information has been released for months with a ‘Fix it’—that was what the order was—and<br />

no follow-up. Certainly, there is a responsibility there in the CMC chair and he should accept full<br />

responsibility for this unacceptable oversight, no-one else. The CMC chair ought to accept full<br />

responsibility for this unacceptable oversight. We know that there are these certain consequences<br />

that flow from having that responsibility. If the chairman accepts that responsibility then he should<br />

also accept the consequences that would ordinarily follow.<br />

As I said, we have had to act. We have been asked to act. We are acting reluctantly on this<br />

issue. But the government puts first the safety of the people who may be at risk. We are going in<br />

blind, really, because we still really do not have any idea of the types of documentation. I understand<br />

that the PCMC will attempt to get to the bottom of this, and I thank the PCMC chair for the work today.<br />

I know that it has been a challenging day with hours and hours that we have spent on this issue with<br />

letters going backwards and forward. But I say again to the members of the House that this could<br />

have been resolved a lot easier had the chairman of the CMC cooperated more fully with us and with<br />

me. It is clearly seen by the correspondence that the CMC chair sent that there were blockages there<br />

and an attempting to blame me for the issue that he is trying to get us to fix. It does not show a spirit<br />

of cooperation. The CMC chair did not ring me to brief me—to say, ‘We would like you to do this,<br />

Attorney,’ or ‘These are the consequences. These are the issues.’ In fact, the first I heard about this<br />

issue was probably a little later than the PCMC became involved and that was when I read the front<br />

page of the Australian newspaper a couple of days ago. Yet the CMC has known about this for<br />

months. It was only ascertained when the CMC figured out the unacceptable oversight. They figured it<br />

out and then a journalist went to access documents that they had been accessing for a while and<br />

were refused, because they reclassified it so that the documents could not be provided. They asked,<br />

‘Why are the documents not available?’ ‘The CMC has not authorised release of the documents.’ ‘I<br />

have been accessing these documents for some time.’ That is when the issue came to light. It was a<br />

journalist who brought these issues to light. It was not in the spirit of the CMC being open and<br />

accountable to the people of <strong>Queensland</strong>; it was because, quite frankly, they were caught out by<br />

journalists. That is why we are reluctant to go into this position tonight—because those people,<br />

including the journalists who have had access to these documents, did so with the full force of the law<br />

because of an administrative oversight of the CMC. No-one else is to blame in this matter.<br />

Can I also say that I am really concerned—highly concerned—about this issue of the shredding<br />

of documents in the report that the chair of the PCMC gave today. We can only report as to what the<br />

PCMC chair has updated the House on, but I do not think enough attention has been paid to that<br />

issue. Today, we have been so focused on trying to assist the CMC as best we can and getting this<br />

bill in tonight that I think we have really forgotten the other issue. I know and I hope there will come a<br />

time when we will have a separate debate, because I think there potentially is systemic issues with<br />

the CMC with respect to these issues. I know that the Callinan inquiry, and the fulsome report that it is<br />

going to release next week, will address some of these other issues that it has uncovered during this<br />

inquiry. But I think we should pay more attention at a later date to the shredding of these documents<br />

and how, in fact, that happened, because I think that is totally unacceptable. It does not give the<br />

people of <strong>Queensland</strong> confidence in the system that we should uphold the most: the CMC, the top<br />

crime-fighting corruption watchdog in this state.<br />

People, <strong>Queensland</strong>ers, government, opposition, crossbenchers should have total confidence<br />

in the CMC. I believe that that confidence has been compromised with the actions of the CMC in the<br />

last couple of days. I will be frank. I am not happy with the responses that the CMC gave me today in<br />

the letters. I am not happy that the CMC chair treated this House, treated this government, with<br />

contempt in terms of ‘I’ll tell you what I want you to know and nothing more’ when we were the ones<br />

being asked to address the issues created by the CMC. So I take offence to those particular issues. If<br />

we had an open dialogue from the outset and had all of this confirmed in writing we would have had<br />

this matter settled a long time ago. All that was required was the CMC chair to get up, tell the<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> public what the issue was, take full responsibility for this as the administration manager,<br />

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come with that great responsibility. I have no doubt that being the chair of such a body has a high<br />

level of responsibility and a high level of risk in terms of what the CMC is engaged in, but I think the<br />

performance of late with the CMC chair in terms of communicating with me particularly and the letters<br />

that I have read into Hansard tonight show the arrogant attitude and the contempt that the CMC chair<br />

held this government in with respect to trying to sort out this issue. We were a willing and able<br />

participant on this journey to fix this issue, but in the correspondence that was sent you can clearly<br />

see that there was a smack of arrogance in that correspondence and then a clear misunderstanding<br />

of what the issue was all about in the latest piece of correspondence, where somehow it was my fault<br />

because I did not allow him and he did not have the time to draft the legislation. It was never the<br />

understanding that he, as CMC chair, would be drafting the legislation. We have processes in place.<br />

We have the Office of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Counsel, we have departments. On that note, can I thank the<br />

Office of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Counsel for going over time tonight. Can I also thank the officers of the<br />

government and the opposition who have been reviewing the bill, my staff and departmental staff who<br />

are still at the State Law Building to the end of this debate. I think an enormous amount of resources<br />

have been spent today and tonight in trying to assist the CMC.<br />

In conclusion, can I say this: the CMC has an important function. <strong>Queensland</strong>ers need to be<br />

able to have confidence in the administration of the duties and functions of the CMC. Ross Martin, the<br />

chair of the CMC, must take and accept responsibility for the actions of the CMC particularly—not just<br />

in the past 48 hours, but the months that have preceded, the months that sensitive documents have<br />

been available—and responsibility for not checking up after he said ‘Fix it’ to a staff member. That<br />

should ring alarm bells for members of this House in terms of the administration of that body.<br />

So as we go forward tonight, I say to the people who have this documentation that the<br />

government will not go after them for having those documents that they lawfully obtained. We<br />

understand their frustration in that they are now being silenced essentially for 60 days, but to please<br />

understand that the reason we are doing it is that the government cannot be convinced that the<br />

documents that are out there are not in the public interest to protect and that is why we have to do it.<br />

There is a question mark over the documentation and that is why we have to do what we are doing<br />

tonight, because we cannot be satisfied and we cannot have on our conscience, if something did<br />

happen, that this government, this parliament, did not do all we could to protect.<br />

Events will unfold in the next 48 hours as investigations proceed with respect to this issue and,<br />

ultimately, to find out what went wrong, how it went wrong and, ultimately, who will take responsibility<br />

and accept responsibility for this complete administrative nightmare that this parliament should have<br />

not be dealing with tonight, but we are.<br />

This provision of allowing essentially the 60-day sunset clause is a temporary solution to stop<br />

the information being reproduced now, but at the end of the day we will have to ascertain during that<br />

60-day period what went wrong, how it went wrong and who is going to take responsibility for it. That<br />

ultimate question rests with the chairman of the CMC.<br />

Question put—That the bill be now read a second time.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Bill read a second time.<br />

Consideration in Detail<br />

Clauses 1 to 3, as read, agreed to.<br />

Clause 4—<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (2.40 am): I would like some clarification in relation to clause 4. I know<br />

there has not been time for consultation. The minister has tabled a couple of letters between himself<br />

and the chair of the CMC. I was wondering, as the Attorney-General, when these issues were first<br />

brought to light to him did he at any time consider picking up the phone and talking to the chair of the<br />

CMC about this very important matter?<br />

The only other issue I would like the Attorney to address is that as these matters are being<br />

examined—and we actually have the letter here from the chair of the CMC, Ross Martin, saying the<br />

reasons for this are still being examined—I would hate this parliament to be judge and jury here<br />

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comments that the Attorney made about someone needing to take full responsibility. We all know that<br />

the someone he is talking about is the chair of the CMC. There is an examination that needs to go<br />

ahead. I would hate there to be a perception of bias on behalf of the government.<br />

The minister has also said that he has been reluctant in relation to this legislation. That is<br />

contrary to what he has said previously about the importance of protecting the confidentiality of not<br />

only the documents but the people concerned. I do not think ‘reluctant’ quite sums up why this<br />

legislation is here tonight.<br />

I ask the Attorney to please clarify for the parliament whether he made any attempt to contact<br />

the chair of the CMC. There have been letters going to and fro. I think it is only reasonable that every<br />

member would like to know the answer to that question. I think all members need to be very<br />

conscious that there is an examination going on about what happened. These are extremely serious<br />

issues. The public of <strong>Queensland</strong> need to know answers. This parliament is not to be judge and jury if<br />

there is a PCMC examination. I think all members would share with me their concerns that this must<br />

be treated objectively not subjectively. There are people’s careers on the line here. I ask the Attorney<br />

to address those issues.<br />

Mr BLEIJIE: I thank the opposition leader for the question. I became aware of these issues, as<br />

I said, when I got a phone call from my media adviser in the last 48 hours when it was on the front<br />

page—it might be in the last three days; I have lost track of time it now being three o’clock in the<br />

morning on Friday. As far as I am aware, we did not receive correspondence from the CMC or<br />

anyone else that was brought to my attention. I found out about these issues when it was in the<br />

Australian. I chose not to phone the CMC chair for this reason: that there was obviously an issue and<br />

the PCMC has oversight responsibility. I did not want to be seen to be interfering. If I had phoned and<br />

asked questions I could be accused of interfering in the independent operation of the CMC. Yes, I am<br />

the minister with responsibility for the act. I did think about the contact and chose not to at that<br />

juncture until such time as I had spoken to the PCMC chair. We have been in communication, as is<br />

obvious from the letter that I sent to Mr Martin and his response. I think that was satisfactory.<br />

The other thing I might point out to the opposition leader is that in the tabled letter to me from<br />

Mr Martin of earlier yesterday he says in his first paragraph—<br />

It is apparent that the Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC) has been instrumental in the release of information dating<br />

from the time of the Fitzgerald Inquiry that should not have been made public.<br />

My reasoning for saying that ultimately responsibility rests with the CMC chair is because he<br />

has admitted that the CMC has released information in relation to Fitzgerald that should not have<br />

been made public. The CMC chair has ultimate responsibility. That is the admission from the CMC<br />

chair. I am not making it up. That is in a letter that was tabled earlier. I think that matter addresses<br />

itself.<br />

Investigations will happen. Without predicting the debate later on, I have confidence in the<br />

PCMC that they will go through the processes to find out what went wrong.<br />

Clause 4, as read, agreed to.<br />

Third Reading<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (2.46 am): I<br />

move—<br />

That the bill be now read a third time.<br />

Question put—That the bill be now read a third time.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

Bill read a third time.<br />

Long Title<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (2.46 am): I<br />

move—<br />

That the long title of the bill be agreed to.<br />

Question put—That the long title of the bill be agreed to.<br />

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MOTION<br />

Referral to the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee<br />

Hon. JP BLEIJIE (Kawana—LNP) (Attorney-General and Minister for Justice) (2.47 am), by<br />

leave, without notice: I move—<br />

(1) That this House notes the statement by the Chair of the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee (PCMC) to<br />

the House today in relation to the failure by the Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC) to properly safeguard the<br />

records of the Commission of Inquiry into Possible Illegal Activities and Associated Police Misconduct.<br />

(2) That in addition to any action already undertaken by the committee, this House requests the PCMC in accordance with<br />

s.292(d) of the Crime and Misconduct Act 2001 to inquire into and report:<br />

(a) upon the CMC’s incorrect classification of documents lodged with State Archives that were sourced from the<br />

Commission of Inquiry into Possible Illegal Activities and Associated Police Misconduct which were transferred<br />

to the State Archives from the CMC between 2007 and 2009 that has necessitated the bill titled Crime and<br />

Misconduct Commission (Administrative Negligence Rectification) Amendment Bill 2013 passed by the House<br />

this evening;<br />

(b) upon the CMC’s failure to remedy the incorrect classification of the above documents in a timely and effective<br />

manner;<br />

(c) upon the destruction of records of the Commission of Inquiry into Possible Illegal Activities and Associated<br />

Police Misconduct by the CMC;<br />

(d) upon the CMC’s failure to account to the PCMC in a timely and effective manner with respect to (a) to (c)<br />

above;<br />

(e) as to how the issues arising from the incorrect classification of documents can be remedied in the longer term,<br />

including whether some or all of those documents have to remain confidential; and<br />

(f) on any other matters and make any other recommendations the PCMC believes necessary to address issues<br />

raised in its inquiry.<br />

(3) That in addition to any action already undertaken by the PCMC, in accordance with s.314(2) of the Crime and<br />

Misconduct Act 2001, requests the PCMC to require the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner to assist the PCMC in its inquiry,<br />

including enabling the commissioner to examine witnesses at all hearings of the committee on the matter.<br />

(4) That the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee authorise the publication of any evidence already taken by<br />

the committee in relation to this matter, redacted only to the extent necessary to protect third parties.<br />

(5) That the PCMC conduct its proceedings, including the examination by the PCMC and <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner of<br />

all witnesses under (3) above in public (but excepting its deliberations), unless there is any matter arising which<br />

involves current operational files.<br />

(6) That the PCMC authorise the publication of all transcripts of examinations and tabled evidence as soon as practicable<br />

after the hearing.<br />

(7) That all witnesses in the committee’s proceedings be required to give evidence under oath or affirmation.<br />

(8) That the committee report back to the House by 5 April 2013.<br />

I will elaborate on the motion being moved. I thank the opposition and the chair of the PCMC<br />

for having discussions earlier this evening. We are attempting to have an open and transparent<br />

inquiry into what went wrong. This is the next step. We have passed the bill in terms of protecting<br />

potentially sensitive documentation. This is about the processes that were in play that allowed the<br />

administration error or oversight to occur. It follows on from my earlier contribution in the debate on<br />

Thursday in this House, where I called on the PCMC and the CMC to act in an open and transparent<br />

environment. The public ought to be able to see what happens in these inquiries, which is why tonight<br />

we are moving this motion without notice. Essentially, we are saying we will have an open inquiry and<br />

we are giving the full powers of this inquiry to the members of the PCMC and the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime<br />

and Misconduct Commissioner will be counsel assisting. We will make sure that there are sufficient<br />

resources from the Clerk of this parliament to the PCMC to conduct this inquiry.<br />

The ultimate outcome of this inquiry is to find out what went wrong. Members will note that the<br />

time frame for reporting is earlier than the 60-day sunset period set on the previous bill debated in the<br />

House, therefore allowing time for the committee to do its investigations, its open inquiries, debate<br />

and deliberations and then still have sufficient time if we need to act on certain matters or on potential<br />

recommendations from the committee. There is sufficient time to be able to do that while still<br />

protecting the potentially sensitive information.<br />

I thank the Independent members for Nicklin and Gladstone for attending the briefing that we<br />

gave earlier to the Deputy Premier and the Treasurer. The member for Nicklin raised the issue with<br />

respect to documentation and asked if there is going to be an inquiry with respect to the<br />

documentation. The answer is, no, there is not. This is about the processes that were put in place and<br />

the processes that made what happened happen. It is not about people strolling into this inquiry,<br />

lodging and tabling documents and having documents debated on. It is all about the processes. As<br />

we go forward from tonight, when the PCMC meets next it will be able to have some freedom within<br />

the terms of the reference from the parliament tonight; it will have some freedom and flexibility to be


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able to do that. Of course, if certain documentation is sensitive, there are provisions under statutes at<br />

the moment, particularly provisions under the Crime and Misconduct Act. The motion that I am<br />

moving tonight clearly talks about the deliberations of the committee, and also any current operational<br />

files that will not be subject to public debate.<br />

I think this is important because, as I raised this morning, the secretive way in which the CMC<br />

and the PCMC operate has to be changed. We have to have reform in regard to this issue so that the<br />

public knows and is aware of the issues and the public then will have confidence in the process. The<br />

public cannot have confidence in these processes if they do not know what is going on. We accept<br />

that there are times when there is information that ought not be put out in the public domain. We have<br />

to have reform in this regard and this is the start of the reform tonight by having these meetings as<br />

much as possible in an open and public environment. I would suggest that, subject to the PCMC, they<br />

be held in this place, in parliamentary committee chambers or chambers. I encourage the PCMC to<br />

go full steam ahead with this inquiry, if this motion passes the House tonight, to get to the bottom of<br />

what went wrong and, ultimately, to find out who should take ultimate responsibility for these actions.<br />

This motion is about openness, it is about transparency, it is about the integrity of the system<br />

and it is about trying to restore the confidence that people ought to have in the CMC and its<br />

processes. I think there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. The PCMC is the body to do<br />

that, through this motion. <strong>Parliament</strong> will empower it. We are doing something that has not been done<br />

in many other jurisdictions. In fact, the Clerk advises that it has happened in the House of Commons,<br />

but not in too many jurisdictions. We are entering into a new phase of openness and transparency in<br />

our committee process. I commend the motion to the House.<br />

Ms PALASZCZUK (Inala—ALP) (Leader of the Opposition) (2.55 am): The opposition will be<br />

supporting the motion. The parliament is charged with the responsibility for overseeing the CMC and<br />

it performs this important task through the <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Committee, the<br />

PCMC. The PCMC has been meeting exhaustively since the first revelations came to light. The chair<br />

of the PCMC came before the House this afternoon to advise of the action that the committee was to<br />

take. I thank the chair of the committee for providing that comprehensive update, not only this<br />

afternoon but also in the early hours of the morning.<br />

The <strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Commissioner is to undertake a thorough and<br />

independent investigation focusing on the release of the documents. He will investigate the extent of<br />

the knowledge and roles of the CMC officers in relation to the reclassification and subsequent release<br />

of the documents and the shredding of documents. This should include the governance and<br />

accountability mechanisms within the CMC to prevent this from ever occurring again. The<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Crime and Misconduct Commissioner is the appropriate person to investigate these<br />

matters. That is the role of the commissioner. That is why we have an independent person of the<br />

highest calibre to carry out this function.<br />

I now address the current situation involving the unauthorised release of sensitive documents.<br />

It is clear that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. It is clear we need to consider swift<br />

action if people’s wellbeing or personal safety is at risk. It is clear we need a detailed explanation from<br />

the CMC chair, Ross Martin, about the circumstances that led us to be engaged in this debate tonight.<br />

We deserve to know what went wrong and how it can be stopped from ever happening again in our<br />

state.<br />

The people of <strong>Queensland</strong> deserve a clear explanation if we are to maintain confidence in the<br />

process of our corruption watchdog. As I said previously, this inquiry will now be a public inquiry.<br />

There may be issues that are raised that are extremely sensitive in nature and I thank the Attorney-<br />

General for giving the assurance that they will be treated in that manner. However, I do want to<br />

reiterate my earlier comments: tonight we are not the judge and jury of the chair of the CMC. The<br />

Attorney does need to be very careful in his language in this House when the public inquiry has not<br />

yet begun. The comments he made pre-empted this motion in the House. This needs to be an open<br />

and transparent process. People’s reputations are at stake. They need to be questioned and, if<br />

wrongdoing is found, at the end the day then actions will be considered. The committee now has the<br />

opportunity to examine this in detail and report back to the House. I asked the Attorney earlier that if<br />

there were matters that came to light that involved an extension, that that issue would come back to<br />

the parliament. I do not recall anything like this happening in my lifetime, where such confidential<br />

documents have been released in the public domain. The government has acted swiftly, but we need<br />

to ensure an open, transparent process so that those recommendations can come back to the<br />

parliament and the parliament can determine the course of action to ensure that this never happens<br />

again.


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Mrs CUNNINGHAM (Gladstone—Ind) (2.59 am): I would like to speak to the motion. I thank<br />

the Attorney-General for the opportunity for the committee to be involved in the manner that this<br />

motion requires. The committee is mindful of the serious responsibility this motion places on it, the<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong>ary Commissioner and others who will give assistance, advice and testimony to this<br />

inquiry. We will endeavour to carry out those responsibilities objectively, impartially and transparently.<br />

Question put—That the motion be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT<br />

Mr STEVENS (Mermaid Beach—LNP) (Manager of Government Business) (3.00 am): I<br />

move—<br />

That the House, at its rising, do adjourn until 9.30 am on Tuesday, 19 March 2013.<br />

Question put—That the motion be agreed to.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

ADJOURNMENT<br />

Mr STEVENS (Mermaid Beach—LNP) (Manager of Government Business) (3.00 am): I<br />

move—<br />

That the House do now adjourn.<br />

Coronial Inquest, Arnold, Ms V and Leahy, Mrs J<br />

Mr PITT (Mulgrave—ALP) (3.01 am): Last Friday the State Coroner, Michael Barnes, handed<br />

down his findings from the third inquest into the deaths of Vicki Arnold and Julie-Anne Leahy. Many<br />

people would be aware of the circumstances of this case. In August 1991 the women’s bodies were<br />

found in bushland at Cherry Tree Creek near Atherton after being missing for two weeks. It was<br />

quickly ruled that Vicki killed Julie-Anne and then took her own life.<br />

When I called for a third inquest in 2010, I had hoped for an open finding by the coroner so that<br />

it may remove the stigma of a murder-suicide that had been very unfairly applied to Vicki Arnold for<br />

almost two decades. What happened was something that surpassed all expectations. It was<br />

something that does not happen very often. I think people have a view that what happens in<br />

courtrooms is what we see in Hollywood movies. Almost always this is not what happens, but on this<br />

occasion it was.<br />

Coroner Michael Barnes made it clear that Vicki Arnold would be exonerated and that finally<br />

she, too, would be considered a victim in this awful saga. But he went further. He said there was a<br />

prima facie case to lay charges against Alan Leahy and then he ordered that a warrant be issued for<br />

his arrest. Today Alan Leahy handed himself in to authorities. It is difficult to describe the emotion that<br />

we all felt in the courtroom. We were overjoyed and we were relieved. We are all still shocked at the<br />

outcome.<br />

I grew up hearing stories about this case, and I do not think I have ever come across anyone I<br />

know in Far North <strong>Queensland</strong> who thought events transpired the way the original police investigation<br />

suggested—backed up by the first two coronial inquests. I have always felt a very personal<br />

connection to this case. I made a vow that, if I was ever fortunate enough to have a platform to bring<br />

this case to the fore—as allowed by my role as a member of this parliament—I would take that<br />

chance.<br />

The result last week was perhaps the most satisfying outcome of anything that I have worked<br />

on since becoming an MP. I want to thank former Attorney-General, Cameron Dick, for listening to my<br />

calls and Coroner Michael Barnes. He was the right man at the right time for the job. There are so<br />

many people who have kept the faith over the years, but I want to pay tribute to author Robert Reid<br />

and lawyer Phillip Bovey in particular.<br />

There was a stage where the person in my view who most needed to be present to hear the<br />

findings may not have been there. Vicki’s mother, Vida Arnold, now in her late 80s, resides in a<br />

nursing home on the Atherton Tablelands and requires special transport assistance to come to<br />

Cairns. I want to thank Theo Backalakis and St John’s Community Care who answered my call and<br />

made it possible for Vida to be present when the findings were handed down.


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I have said before that the passage of time does not lessen the power of the truth, and the truth<br />

in this case, acknowledged in court last week, is that Vicki Arnold did not kill her best friend and then<br />

take her own life. I have nothing but the deepest admiration for the families of Vicki and Julie-Anne for<br />

their unswerving conviction to the innocence of Vicki and a commitment to seeing a deplorable wrong<br />

being put right. Nobody will know whether the outcome would have been different if the police<br />

investigation had been handled better, but I think it may have saved almost 22 years of heartache for<br />

many people. After two decades the obvious has been recognised. It now rests with the courts to do<br />

their job and bring some genuine closure. It just goes to show you that you should never give up.<br />

International Women’s Day<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON (Nanango—LNP) (3.04 am): Today, 8 March 2013, we celebrate<br />

International Women’s Day. To you, Madam Speaker, an inspirational woman and first female<br />

Speaker of this House, congratulations. What an inspirational woman you are for all of us in this<br />

House.<br />

A government member interjected.<br />

Mrs FRECKLINGTON: Madam Speaker will be able to go straight to her breakfast. We look<br />

forward to the inspirational speech that Madam Speaker will deliver at the International Women’s Day<br />

breakfast this morning in parliament in a few hours time.<br />

I would like to take the opportunity to recognise a few of these inspirational women from my<br />

electorate in Nanango. First of all, there is a lady called Vivienne McCollum from Hampton. Viv is a<br />

wonderful mum of two and Hampton is a great part of the Nanango electorate. Viv is special because<br />

she is very actively involved in several industry and community activities which have brought about a<br />

positive change in her area of Hampton. She has an agricultural consulting business and is Project<br />

Manager of the Young Dairy Network. She owns and operates an agricultural consulting business that<br />

deals in natural resource management and project management. Importantly, she is very actively<br />

involved in the Geham State School P&C Association and is working hard to achieve improvements<br />

at the school. She even had the pleasure of a visit from the honourable Minister Langbroek.<br />

It is important that I mention her involvement in the Hampton Food and Arts Festival, which<br />

I am looking forward to attending. This festival is important given that the South Burnett Wine and<br />

Food in the Park Festival—the great Kingaroy food and wine festival—which was meant to be held<br />

tomorrow has had to be cancelled due to the wet weather. I encourage everyone to go to the<br />

picturesque village of Hampton, which is located in the Nanango electorate, to celebrate the very best<br />

in seasonal produce, regional art and the good life in the high country. I thank Vivienne for everything<br />

she does in relation to the Hampton Food and Arts festival.<br />

I should also note that Viv is very active on the Crows Nest Arts Council and is involved in<br />

many of the local productions. She is also a member of the Crows Nest Child Care Centre<br />

Management Committee, which has planned major projects in relation to rural studies for young<br />

children. Madam Speaker, I wish you a very happy International Women’s Day.<br />

Burnett Electorate, Casual Labour<br />

Mr BENNETT (Burnett—LNP) (3.07 am): For the benefit of the House, I would like to table a<br />

report of a meeting conducted last year to highlight a serious issue in my electorate of transient and<br />

casual labour hire.<br />

Tabled paper: Document titled ‘Horticultural Industry Concerns and Abuses’, dated 28 November 2012 [2218].<br />

The Burnett and Childers region is one of the productive horticultural areas in Australia. So it is<br />

no surprise that a large number of backpackers form an important part of the industry’s capacity to<br />

carry out field work while visiting our part of the Coral Coast. It has been raised previously in my<br />

electorate that legitimate businesses and workers are experiencing financial and competition<br />

pressures because of some illegal and disreputable labour hire and harvesting contractors. It must be<br />

emphasised that there are many credible and compliant contractors operating services with<br />

international visitors. However, it appears that the federal government and their departments have<br />

failed in their duties in not removing permanently these dodgy operators from the industry. We are<br />

witnessing failures in relation to profitability and fair work practice by these small business operators.<br />

The federal member for Hinkler and I have been meeting with industry and we were led to<br />

believe that the Australian Taxation Office is aware of the cash and paperless operations within the<br />

horticultural industry. Yet it appears that no significant action has been taken to deal with or change<br />

the behaviour of these dubious operators who abuse their employees in terms of fair wages and


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superannuation entitlements. The amount of money would be significant and the practice is affecting<br />

those growers and contractors who do the right thing. Of greater concern is the exploitation and<br />

exposure of employees to breaches in workplace health and safety and working conditions. Workers<br />

in some circumstances are not being correctly supervised. We regularly hear of abuse such as lack of<br />

water, toilets and rest areas.<br />

Of three significant employers in my electorate who have entered into administration over the<br />

last two years, all have suffered media attention because of unpaid wages and entitlements but the<br />

reality is that in most cases unpaid wages were in fact the responsibility of labour hire contractors.<br />

Every bad experience—every international worker and backpacker who is treated badly—has a<br />

terrible flow-on effect on our region’s reputation and serious effects on areas like tourism.<br />

Investigations in the past have failed to prevent unscrupulous operators from continually<br />

abusing the system, which has resulted in ineffective prosecutions. I go on record to say that this<br />

inaction is creating an environment for illegal immigration and exploitation of foreign workers who hide<br />

their identities behind the practice of paperless operations. I support the federal member for Hinkler’s<br />

call for a doubling of commitment by government agencies. There is enough evidence to warrant a<br />

well-coordinated, cross-departmental task force and flying squads that should include the ATO,<br />

ATSIC, Immigration and Fair Work with police backup to crack down on these crooks. Enough is<br />

enough and our society should demand that these practices stop. Happy International Women’s Day<br />

to everyone.<br />

Natural Disaster Events of 2013; International Women’s Day<br />

Dr DOUGLAS (Gaven—Ind) (3.10 am): Recent floods and storms caused major damage in my<br />

electorate of Gaven, and one has to ask the question: how much suffering does one have to endure<br />

before being eligible for personal hardship grants provided by the state government? Whilst the<br />

suffering is nowhere near the enormity of what has happened in Bundaberg, Laidley and Gayndah,<br />

people have nevertheless suffered hardship throughout the state.<br />

Residents in my electorate living in Guanaba recently lost two freezers full of food—that is all<br />

they had—as they were without power for nearly four days. They were isolated as their roads were<br />

blocked. They were without their landline and they had no other connection to anybody else. Power<br />

went out at 6 pm on 27 January until 30 January. Members can see they were severely<br />

disadvantaged. However, one of the residents told me they were told they were ineligible for<br />

assistance because they were not, in the words of the officer, ‘starving’. They approached me as their<br />

local member.<br />

I contacted the Minister for Communities to see whether I could get them some assistance.<br />

However, once again the department contacted them and said they were ineligible because they were<br />

not suffering. My constituents say they have been discriminated against. According to the minister’s<br />

media release of 29 January headed ‘Assistance for flooded Gold Coast and Logan area residents’<br />

personal hardship grants were being offered for the replacement or repair of contents damaged by<br />

the storm. In their case they lost food from their freezers and fridge due to the extended power outage<br />

and they kept a list. Unfortunately, whilst they did suffer severe hardship they were told they were not<br />

entitled to anything because they did not suffer damage to essential household contents or have<br />

contents lost or destroyed.<br />

Whilst on the subject of floods it is often said that disasters bring out the best in people. My<br />

staff are constantly amazed by the community’s generosity to the flood appeal. It ran in conjunction<br />

with the Undies for Bundy appeal. We sent two further loads off recently and we have a small load to<br />

go.<br />

On International Women’s Day I would like to thank Vicki Va’a, the coordinator of the Nerang<br />

Neighbourhood Centre, for the work that she does. She has been nominated as the Gaven<br />

electorate’s inspirational woman for the International Women’s Day awards which Madam Speaker is<br />

hosting this morning. Vicki not only raised the profile of the Nerang Neighbourhood Centre when she<br />

became its coordinator through her invaluable networking and strong peer group communication skills<br />

but is also a strong advocate for New Zealand Pacific Islanders living in South-East <strong>Queensland</strong>—<br />

largely non-permanent residents. We are indebted to Vicki for her skills. She is a wonderful networker<br />

and a great advocate of social justice information. I thank her for raising another $22,000 for the<br />

Nerang Neighbourhood Centre.


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Great Keppel Island, Resort<br />

Mr YOUNG (Keppel—LNP) (3.13 am): One of my first speeches in parliament was on Great<br />

Keppel Island, a once-booming tourist destination off the coast of Yeppoon in my electorate. Since<br />

the resort closed seven years ago, developers Tower Holdings have made three separate<br />

submissions for the redevelopment of the resort. After the first two proposals were denied by the<br />

federal government for environmental reasons, there has been much anticipation within the<br />

community as to whether the final proposal would be approved.<br />

It gives me great pleasure to stand in the House this morning and announce that the Newman<br />

government approved this project on Friday of last week and gained approval from the federal<br />

government environment minister, Tony Burke, on Tuesday of this week. The $600 million Great<br />

Keppel Island resort project includes a new beachfront hotel, several styles of low-rise resort<br />

accommodation, a marina, a retail village, a day spa, a golf course, an upgraded airstrip, a research<br />

centre and a 575-hectare environmental protection area.<br />

This resort project will be one of the largest tourist developments in the country and will be a<br />

major tourist attraction for not only <strong>Queensland</strong> but also Australia. The flow-on effect for businesses in<br />

my electorate will be significant. Previously a lot of Australians have been going overseas for<br />

holidays, and this is going to give Australians a genuine alternative. The new and modern<br />

development will provide a range of activities including designated bushwalking tracks, fishing trips,<br />

leisure cruises, cafes and restaurants, bars, a golf course, a day spa facility or just the ability to<br />

lounge around on a beautiful beach next to Australia’s most important national attraction, the Great<br />

Barrier Reef.<br />

The resort proposal includes a marina which will provide safe, equitable and all-weather access<br />

to the island, allowing greater enjoyment of the resort and the resort facilities. The proposed resort will<br />

also provide a huge boost to the construction industry. The project itself will create 1,400 jobs for the<br />

region, and Tower Holdings has said they will use local suppliers wherever possible and viable.<br />

The proposal development would be the most sustainably advanced resort in the Great Barrier<br />

Reef and Australia’s first truly carbon positive and Green Globe certified resort. It will be committed to<br />

achieving a net carbon positive energy status, and the 24,000 solar panels on the resort infrastructure<br />

are expected to generate enough energy to offset and surpass the resort’s emissions.<br />

The Newman government has been working tirelessly to ensure this critical priority project has<br />

responded to the environmental considerations. I would like to thank the Coordinator-General and his<br />

staff for their dedicated hard work in bringing this proposal to conclusion in just 10 months, after years<br />

of languishing under the previous state government.<br />

Clean Up Australia Day<br />

Hon. AC POWELL (Glass House—LNP) (Minister for Environment and Heritage Protection)<br />

(3.16 am): I want to congratulate the organisers of Clean Up Australia Day and thank the many<br />

volunteers across <strong>Queensland</strong> who helped improve their local environments by removing rubbish on<br />

Sunday, 3 March this year. There are a couple of events in my electorate that I want to pay particular<br />

attention to this morning. Firstly, thankyou to the year 7 students at Wamuran State School who a<br />

little later than this on Friday morning of last week got stuck into cleaning up both sides of the<br />

D’Aguilar Highway at Wamuran. Unfortunately, most of the rubbish we found was cigarette butts. We<br />

have managed to stamp out a few things but seeing those cigarette butts left on the ground is quite<br />

appalling.<br />

It was also my pleasure to join a band of soggy but dedicated volunteers and lend a hand to<br />

clean up Beerburrum Forest on Sunday. I joined approximately 50 volunteers who filled the equivalent<br />

of 26 one-tonne utes with waste from just 1.2 kilometres of forest tracks. We collected televisions,<br />

lounges, a sink, a bird cage, washing machines, fridges and roughly 150 tyres and even a bag of<br />

used nappies. As I helped a couple of four-wheel drive enthusiasts push a fridge out of the forest, I<br />

thought to myself, ‘Wouldn’t it be great if we could do away with the need for Clean Up Australia Day<br />

altogether?’ I wish we did not have to do it. I wish people had the mindset that they should not litter<br />

and they need to do the right thing.<br />

We in the Newman government are certainly doing our bit to ensure that littering is not the easy<br />

option. We are making it harder for those who are dumping in places like Beerburrum state forest. We<br />

did get rid of the waste tax. We are working on a new waste strategy and we are working in<br />

partnership with organisations like Keep Australia Beautiful <strong>Queensland</strong> and the Australian Packaging<br />

Council.


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We had a couple of other things going on on Clean Up Australia Day, and I want to<br />

acknowledge that through funding allocated in Everyone’s Environment grants we had a fantastic<br />

effort from Reef Check Australia. They received $40,000 which they put to good use on the weekend<br />

by holding a Moreton Bay Clean Up Australia Day event on North Stradbroke Island. They had a<br />

range of partners including the Quandamooka people, Wild Mob and Stradbroke Wildlife Rescue.<br />

Unfortunately, they too were very successful. They picked up 124 kilograms of litter which included<br />

things like 767 cigarette butts, 659 pieces of plastic consumer items, 226 metal bottle caps and an<br />

estimated 1,000 metres of fishing line.<br />

Litter impacts our public spaces. It affects our recreational spaces and our tourism industry,<br />

and it impacts on property values. We must do better, but in the meantime I thank all of those tireless<br />

volunteers and the many members in this chamber who did their bit last Sunday.<br />

North <strong>Queensland</strong>, Rail Contractors<br />

Mr KATTER (Mount Isa—KAP) (3.19 am): I rise to call on the government to use its authority to<br />

reverse a worrying trend with North <strong>Queensland</strong> rail contractors which is threatening to erode jobs<br />

and communities in rural and remote areas. I refer to the practices of new private contractors now<br />

competing with QR National entities on the great northern rail line. The most significant of these is the<br />

use of driver sleeper wagons. Consideration of this issue will make the government take a conscious<br />

position on whether or not they want some rural towns to exist in the north-west. Rail jobs in towns<br />

such as Hughenden and Cloncurry are the foundations of their economy. When the cattle industry<br />

wanes, the rail workers are still buying groceries and goods in the town. When the mining industry<br />

declines, the rail families again remain. Any major threats to these jobs can have diabolical effects on<br />

the towns.<br />

I also raise a raft of safety concerns that has arisen as a consequence and that is causing<br />

grave concerns amongst our long-distance train drivers. This dire situation has come about following<br />

the previous awarding of an Xstrata magnetite delivery contract from Townsville to Cloncurry—a<br />

contract previously held by <strong>Queensland</strong> Rail which was undercut by the winning company. The<br />

reason QR National, now trading under the Australian Railroad Group, was undercut was that this<br />

government allowed Pacific National to operate unsafe processes, albeit while flying just under the<br />

level of legal safety requirements.<br />

The Townsville to Cloncurry run has always utilised locally based Cloncurry drivers to toggle<br />

with the Townsville based drivers for the long, 48-hour turnaround. This meant there were more<br />

people, more houses, more families and more money in Cloncurry. Pacific National has dispensed<br />

with that and uses driver sleeper wagons, which means that drivers from Townsville never leave the<br />

train. After they leave Townsville for Cloncurry, they then return to Townsville again. This practice has<br />

also extended to service workshops, storage and other areas. In one instance a private contractor<br />

asked for assistance from one of the local councils with maintenance as they have never been willing<br />

to invest in any support infrastructure outside of Townsville. There are just four drivers doing a 10-<br />

hour on-off roster, sleeping while the train is going, never leaving the train and never spending a cent<br />

in any of the communities along the length of the line—and certainly not in Cloncurry.<br />

I am reliably informed that another major contract for system products for mining giant Xstrata<br />

is up for tender very soon. I am gravely concerned that the winning transporter—be it Pacific National<br />

or not—will adopt the same unsafe driving practices which are damaging to our communities. The<br />

Transport Workers Union in Townsville, on behalf of the train drivers, has previously put forward a<br />

case to the state government against this practice. That advice was ignored by the previous<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> government. I strongly urge this state government to liaise with the TWU, the drivers and<br />

the mayors of affected communities en route to amend unsafe driving practices by putting in a caveat<br />

that encourages Xstrata and the winning tenders to base train drivers locally. I ask that the Minister<br />

for Transport work with me and these mayors in fighting for the safety of our train drivers and for the<br />

future of our communities.<br />

I would also like to take this opportunity to identify the issue of the proposed discontinuation of<br />

The Inlander service by this government—an initiative tried and backed away from by Labor.<br />

Australian Sprintcar Championship<br />

Mr STEWART (Sunnybank—LNP) (3.22 am): Today I would like to inform the House of the<br />

outcome of a great event that was held in my electorate earlier in the year. This event was the<br />

Supercheap Auto Australian Sprintcar Championship held at Supercheap Auto Archerfield Speedway


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in mid-January. One by one the rigs rolled through the gate, with the dreams of a team national title<br />

and a year’s bragging rights hanging on one man’s decision to push through the corner or to hug the<br />

cushions for three days of fierce competition. As the dust settled in the car park, the crews fired up<br />

the engines and the smell of methanol wafted across the arena.<br />

The first day of qualifying saw <strong>Queensland</strong>’s own Todd Wanless—<strong>Queensland</strong>’s only national<br />

champion—produce the fastest lap and lead the 50-strong field into day 1 of competition only to be<br />

clipped and be unable to finish the race. Kerry Madsen cruised to victory with a comfortable margin in<br />

the 25-lap event.<br />

The second day saw defending champion Brooke Tatnell with incidents in two of his qualifying<br />

heat races all but put an end to his chances of back-to-back victories. World Series Sprintcars<br />

champion James McFadden staked his claim for the crown with an impressive drive to win the second<br />

round and a top spot in overall qualifying points heading into the final. The final night yet again saw<br />

families from all over Australia coming to cheer on their team, and by far the hot favourite for the<br />

championship was McFadden. However, the night did not go to plan for local Todd Wanless, as in the<br />

final round of elimination heats his engine blew. He was, however, able to roll across the line to<br />

secure a start in the final. This, however, had one catch associated with it: the Wanless team had 15<br />

minutes to change the engine. What I saw then were different pit crews coming together to assist<br />

Todd’s team to ensure he made it to the starting grid. With a deep crowd of onlookers and spanners<br />

flying everywhere, they managed to get the job done and secure a full field for the final.<br />

The race was tight, with David Murcott leading for much of the 40-lap final. However, in lapped<br />

traffic and six laps remaining James McFadden took the lead. McFadden crossed the line and took<br />

the honour of the 51st national champion and the second <strong>Queensland</strong>er to hold the title. Third across<br />

the line was Steven Lines followed by previous Australian championship winner Kerry Madsen. The<br />

event showcased some of the best feature races ever seen at the venue, with drivers from around<br />

Australia and the United States in front of near-record crowds.<br />

I would like to congratulate James on his win, but it is also important to extend congratulations<br />

to each and every driver, their teams and sponsors who competed. Thanks for the show that you put<br />

on for the fans and for boosting our local economy. Thanks also to Kathy and John Kelly, all the<br />

officials, the staff and the volunteers who came together to make the championship a success.<br />

As today is International Women’s Day, I would like to acknowledge all women—from full-time<br />

mothers to Speakers of state parliaments and especially my wife.<br />

Newman Government<br />

Mr JUDGE (Yeerongpilly—Ind) (3.25 am): Like the Attorney-General, the Premier often speaks<br />

about the importance of restoring accountability in government which he claims has caused<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong>ers to lose faith in their leaders. I assert that to date nothing has changed under his<br />

leadership. To substantiate this assertion, I remind the Premier of an article in the Brisbane Times of<br />

4 April 2011 in which he is reported as saying words to the effect of ‘the Public Service has nothing to<br />

fear from a Liberal National Party government’. Accordingly, it now seems hypocritical for the Premier<br />

to criticise the opposition about state asset sales without a mandate and, similarly, to criticise the<br />

Gillard government about introducing a carbon tax without a mandate.<br />

The truth is that the Premier has likewise acted without a mandate by recklessly and ruthlessly<br />

eliminating thousands of Public Service positions after having made a pre-election promise that the<br />

Public Service has nothing to fear. Significantly, on 7 December 2012 after the Premier returned from<br />

a trade mission to India, ABC News reported him as saying that the member for Condamine, the<br />

member for Gaven and I, as the member for Yeerongpilly, chose to leave the LNP because we did<br />

not want to keep our commitment to the people of our electorates. I assert that nothing could be<br />

further from the truth. It is quite the opposite, in fact. Our electorates can have faith that we will<br />

represent them with honesty and integrity.<br />

Personally, I resigned from the LNP for a range of reasons including local people losing their<br />

jobs, which hurts families, as a result of Public Service cuts despite election promises; a lack of<br />

evidence based legislation; and cuts to important services. Furthermore, my continued involvement<br />

with the Newman government became untenable after an absurd demand to pledge 100 per cent<br />

loyalty to Campbell Newman and his government. I refused this ultimatum because I was elected to<br />

broadly serve and act in the best interests of constituents from the Yeerongpilly electorate. I want to<br />

reassure them that that is exactly what I will continue to do in this parliament.


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Regarding the Premier’s criticisms of the member for Condamine, the member for Gaven and<br />

me, as the member for Yeerongpilly, for allegedly not wanting to keep our commitment to the people<br />

of our electorates, it is far from the truth. It is irrefutable that the Premier himself has failed to keep his<br />

election promises especially to the Public Service. On this count the Premier has further eroded<br />

accountability in government which he claimed to be so sadly lacking and causing <strong>Queensland</strong>ers to<br />

lose faith in their leaders.<br />

As the representative for Yeerongpilly in this parliament, I accept my responsibility in restoring<br />

accountability and I assure each and every one of my constituents that they have my 100 per cent<br />

pledge to work with energy, take a no-nonsense approach to politics and always stand up for locals<br />

first and foremost.<br />

HeartKids <strong>Queensland</strong><br />

Mr SYMES (Lytton—LNP) (3.28 am): Tonight I want to talk about the good work that HeartKids<br />

<strong>Queensland</strong> does in the community, as it is something which is very close to my heart—no pun<br />

intended. February was the organisation’s heart awareness month. HeartKids is a not-for-profit<br />

organisation dedicated to providing support, encouragement and hope for families of children with<br />

heart disease while raising awareness and vital funding into the causes of this chronic disease.<br />

While the future of many families of these children is clouded with uncertainty, HeartKids’ goal<br />

is to secure the future of these very special kids. In partnership with this organisation there was a<br />

planned barbecue on the Wynnum foreshore with me as guest speaker and country music band<br />

O’Shea to perform songs from their recent album.<br />

A government member interjected.<br />

Mr SYMES: I have not heard them, but I believe they are very good. However, unfortunately<br />

due to the recent storm event the barbecue was cancelled. I look forward to conducting this event<br />

next February to raise funds for this worthwhile awareness group. I also want to put on the record my<br />

appreciation for Donut King, the Coffee Club, the Brisbane Broncos and other businesses which<br />

undertook Heartkids’ events—<br />

A government member interjected.<br />

Mr SYMES: They did. I must admit, they are a very good business. Some of these businesses<br />

raised money last month for HeartKids and some promoted the organisation through social media or<br />

television advertisements. One in 100 kids in Australia will be born with CHD, cognitive heart disease,<br />

with up to four kids each week passing away. As a government member, I will be doing everything in<br />

my power to promote this worthwhile cause. I urge my parliamentary colleagues to promote<br />

HeartKids’ work in their respective electorates.<br />

Madam SPEAKER: Happy International Women’s Day, members. Thank you for your<br />

comments.<br />

Question put—That the House do now adjourn.<br />

Motion agreed to.<br />

The House adjourned at 3.31 am (Friday).<br />

ATTENDANCE<br />

Barton, Bates, Bennett, Berry, Bleijie, Boothman, Byrne, Cavallucci, Choat, Costigan, Cox,<br />

Crandon, Cripps, Crisafulli, Cunningham, Davies, C. Davis, T. Davis, Dempsey, Dillaway, Douglas,<br />

Dowling, Driscoll, Elmes, Emerson, Flegg, France, Frecklington, Gibson, Grant, Grimwade, Gulley,<br />

Hart, Hathaway, Hobbs, Holswich, Hopper, Johnson, Judge, Katter, Kaye, Kempton, King, Knuth,<br />

Krause, Langbroek, Latter, Maddern, Malone, Mander, McArdle, McVeigh, Menkens, Millard, Miller,<br />

Minnikin, Molhoek, Mulherin, Newman, Nicholls, Ostapovitch, Palaszczuk, Pitt, Powell, Pucci, Rice,<br />

Rickuss, Robinson, Ruthenberg, Scott, Seeney, Shorten, Shuttleworth, Simpson, Smith, Sorensen,<br />

Springborg, Stevens, Stewart, Stuckey, Symes, Trad, Trout, Walker, Watts, Wellington, Woodforth,<br />

Young

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