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Minutes of the Tallinn meeting - PHEPA

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Estonia Meeting - <strong>Minutes</strong><br />

Discussion<br />

Dr. Gual points out that it seems that <strong>the</strong>re is no agreement on <strong>the</strong> use <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> tool. Some<br />

see <strong>the</strong> tool useful for cross comparisons and o<strong>the</strong>rs see it really negatively but taking<br />

into account that this is an European Project, we need maximum objectivity <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

measurement but European differences in <strong>the</strong> EIBI topic can be used at national level to<br />

help those countries that are behind to force <strong>the</strong>ir Governments to give <strong>the</strong>m more<br />

support.<br />

Dr. Hea<strong>the</strong>r suggests that using <strong>the</strong> tool for political purposes is fine but not for<br />

scientific purposes. The validity <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> results is questionable and <strong>the</strong>y won’t be<br />

accepted in any international journal.<br />

Dr. Pas suggests working toge<strong>the</strong>r on <strong>the</strong> tool for internal use and debating on it until<br />

later decisions can be taken.<br />

Dr. Maciek Godicky-Cwirko also comments that it would be difficult to set standards to<br />

assess each topic. Protocols and standards have to be set to assess each area. The tool<br />

has not to look for standards in a general way but it can help to know if protocols are<br />

fulfilled at national levels.<br />

Dr. Ribeiro says that both are possible, <strong>the</strong> tool can be used to describe <strong>the</strong> situation and<br />

to help countries know <strong>the</strong> way to develop each area.<br />

It is agreed that <strong>the</strong> document will be used only internally until next <strong>meeting</strong> and that<br />

partners will be asked for additional suggestions on contents and process.<br />

Phepa team will send back <strong>the</strong> revised form (improved) with time enough before <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>meeting</strong> that country teams can fill in <strong>the</strong> tool again. It is clear that <strong>the</strong> debate is on <strong>the</strong><br />

use for country comparisons but not at national level, so we continue with <strong>the</strong> idea <strong>of</strong><br />

going forward and a decision will have to be taken later.<br />

Presentation <strong>of</strong> report, Alcohol in Europe (see file attached: Alcohol in Europe)<br />

The 10 th recommendation talks about Advice for hazardous and harmful alcohol<br />

consumption and alcohol dependence, and recommendations for advice:<br />

10 th .1. Development <strong>of</strong> guidelines brief advice and implementation in different settings<br />

10 th .2. Training and support programmes to deliver brief advice<br />

10 th .3. Resources to ensure <strong>the</strong> widespread <strong>of</strong> identification and advice programmes.<br />

- Available in web site: www.ias.org.uk<br />

Dr. Hea<strong>the</strong>r says that it is a magnificent piece <strong>of</strong> work and that <strong>the</strong> report is going to be<br />

really useful for <strong>the</strong> group.<br />

Dr. Anderson says that <strong>the</strong> French translation will be available by <strong>the</strong> end <strong>of</strong> July at <strong>the</strong><br />

EC website and that <strong>the</strong> summary is already translated by all BTG partners in to <strong>the</strong><br />

different languages. He adds that <strong>the</strong> report was peer-reviewed by <strong>the</strong> Industry but<br />

received good comments.<br />

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