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Exploring the meaning of free speech with Katharine Gelber

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<strong>Exploring</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>meaning</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>free</strong> <strong>speech</strong> 42<br />

<strong>of</strong> what it means to be as a human being living in a society, living in a<br />

community. 3) The argument from democracy, also privileges political <strong>speech</strong>:<br />

<strong>the</strong> argument that we need to be able to engage in <strong>speech</strong> in order to self-govern,<br />

and to do that in a democratic way. 4) The argument from self-fulfilment:<br />

engaging in <strong>speech</strong> so that we develop our own individual capacities.<br />

In <strong>free</strong> <strong>speech</strong> literature <strong>the</strong>re’s an assumption that political <strong>speech</strong> ought to be<br />

particularly protected. However, in that same literature <strong>the</strong>re’s very little clear<br />

elucidation <strong>of</strong> what political <strong>speech</strong> is. In my work I have tended to think <strong>of</strong><br />

political <strong>speech</strong> as that <strong>speech</strong> which is facilitative <strong>of</strong> both one’s ability to live<br />

socially and to govern socially - to self-govern, that is, to have a society that is<br />

democratic in which we can participate.<br />

So it helps us; <strong>speech</strong> helps us make democracy happen; <strong>speech</strong> is part <strong>of</strong> making<br />

democracy happen. For us as citizens, <strong>speech</strong> is constitutive <strong>of</strong> what we need to<br />

be able to do to develop our ability to participate in relevant democratic<br />

processes. So at both <strong>the</strong> individual level and <strong>the</strong> social level, political <strong>speech</strong> is<br />

<strong>the</strong> means by which we make democracy happen.<br />

JC<br />

KG:<br />

JC:<br />

KG:<br />

Can I follow up? How do you distinguish political <strong>speech</strong> from o<strong>the</strong>r forms <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>speech</strong>? Has <strong>the</strong> distinction to do <strong>with</strong> <strong>the</strong> arena in which <strong>speech</strong> takes place? Or<br />

is it about <strong>the</strong> content <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>speech</strong>?<br />

Again, that is a very good question. But it is not very clearly answerable.<br />

Three types <strong>of</strong> <strong>speech</strong> are set <strong>of</strong>f against <strong>free</strong> <strong>speech</strong>. Commercial <strong>speech</strong> is not<br />

regarded as, or is set <strong>of</strong>f as distinct from political <strong>speech</strong>: even in <strong>the</strong> United<br />

States, commercial <strong>speech</strong> is much more easily regulable than o<strong>the</strong>r types <strong>of</strong><br />

<strong>speech</strong>. Obscenity, particularly pornography, certain types <strong>of</strong> pornographies, is<br />

also set <strong>of</strong>f as distinct from political <strong>speech</strong>. And <strong>the</strong> third one might be artistic<br />

<strong>speech</strong>. But again <strong>the</strong>re’s a blurry line because it depends on <strong>the</strong> kind <strong>of</strong> art you’re<br />

talking about. Some art, which seeks to be a sort <strong>of</strong> expression <strong>of</strong> creativity,<br />

might not be definable as political <strong>speech</strong>. But some art I can think <strong>of</strong> would be<br />

very political.<br />

The distinction you seem to be pointing towards has to do <strong>with</strong> <strong>the</strong> purpose <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

content <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>speech</strong>. But in your book you discuss <strong>the</strong> use <strong>of</strong> flags and also<br />

certain kinds <strong>of</strong> artistic enterprise as political. Why is it, in particular, that you<br />

see flag use as a form <strong>of</strong> political <strong>speech</strong>?<br />

What I’m interested in is what <strong>speech</strong> does as opposed to trying to define political<br />

<strong>speech</strong> <strong>with</strong> reference to its content, or <strong>with</strong> reference to <strong>the</strong> context in which it’s<br />

spoken, or <strong>with</strong> reference to its audience, or <strong>with</strong> reference to its speaker. I guess<br />

all <strong>of</strong> those things are elements <strong>of</strong> it, but what I’m interested in is what <strong>speech</strong><br />

does.

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