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REPORT 2<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>Analysis</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code<br />

Report <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> outcome <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>draft</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code<br />

This report provides <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>text for <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code submitted to Ministers under<br />

<strong>the</strong> terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Secti<strong>on</strong> 10 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform<br />

(Scotland) Act 2003


REPORT 2<br />

ANALYSIS OF REPRESENTATIONS MADE<br />

ON THE CONSULTATIVE DRAFT OF THE<br />

SCOTTISH OUTDOOR ACCESS CODE<br />

Report <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> outcome <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>draft</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code


Report 2<br />

ANALYSIS OF REPRESENTATIONS MADE ON THE CONSULTATIVE DRAFT<br />

OF THE SCOTTISH OUTDOOR ACCESS CODE<br />

C<strong>on</strong>tents<br />

Page<br />

INTRODUCTION<br />

Background<br />

Purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Report 2<br />

2<br />

2<br />

REPRESENTATIONS AND ANALYSIS<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>Analysis</str<strong>on</strong>g> and c<strong>on</strong>clusi<strong>on</strong>s drawn from <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> – all<br />

Questi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Detailed comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in resp<strong>on</strong>se to Questi<strong>on</strong>s 21 and 22<br />

5<br />

201<br />

ANNEXES<br />

Annex 1<br />

Annex 2<br />

Extract from Report 1 <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong><br />

and analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code<br />

Key to <strong>the</strong> coding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents<br />

258<br />

260<br />

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INTRODUCTION<br />

Background<br />

1. On 25th February 2003, <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act received Royal<br />

Assent. Part 1 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this Act (also referred to as <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong>)<br />

establishes new statutory rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public access to <strong>the</strong> outdoors – rights that<br />

come with resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. These rights, however, cannot come into effect<br />

until guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities in <strong>the</strong> form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access<br />

Code has been approved by <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament. Thereafter, and<br />

following approval <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Ministerial guidance to local authorities under Secti<strong>on</strong> 27<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> exercise <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir new powers and duties, a commencement<br />

date for <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> can be set.<br />

2. Under Secti<strong>on</strong> 10 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong>, <strong>Scottish</strong> Natural Heritage (SNH)<br />

has a duty to draw up and issue a code, to be known as <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong><br />

Access Code (also referred to as <strong>the</strong> Access Code). The legislati<strong>on</strong> states in<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 10 (2):<br />

‘<strong>Scottish</strong> Natural Heritage shall c<strong>on</strong>sult local authorities and such o<strong>the</strong>r pers<strong>on</strong>s or<br />

bodies as <strong>the</strong>y think appropriate about <strong>the</strong> proposed Access Code and <strong>the</strong>n submit it<br />

(with or without modificati<strong>on</strong>s) to Ministers toge<strong>the</strong>r with copies <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any objecti<strong>on</strong>s or<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in resp<strong>on</strong>se to <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong>.’<br />

3. To meet this requirement, SNH undertook a c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> a <strong>draft</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong><br />

<strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code between 26th March 2003 and 30th June 2003. This<br />

included extensive distributi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a c<strong>on</strong>sultative <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code which posed<br />

28 questi<strong>on</strong>s to assist resp<strong>on</strong>ses. The process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> and analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> is described in <strong>the</strong> supporting Report 1 and an account<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> wider issues raised during <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> process is described in <strong>the</strong><br />

supporting Report 3.<br />

Purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Report 2<br />

4. The aim <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this report is to present a summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> main analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

wide-ranging comments received in <strong>the</strong> 1,362 <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>draft</strong> Code. It provides data <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>ses to each questi<strong>on</strong>, some<br />

quotati<strong>on</strong>s to give <strong>the</strong> reader an impressi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> views expressed<br />

and a c<strong>on</strong>cluding summary <strong>on</strong> our analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> points expressed.<br />

5. Although <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cluding summary draws mainly <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

comments c<strong>on</strong>tained in <strong>the</strong> written <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> submitted, it also takes into<br />

account <strong>the</strong> many comments expressed at meetings and <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> SNH website<br />

discussi<strong>on</strong> forum. Where appropriate, <strong>the</strong> summary also makes links to <strong>the</strong><br />

wider issues raised regarding implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>. Because <strong>the</strong>se<br />

issues are not strictly about <strong>the</strong> proposed Access Code <strong>the</strong>y are presented<br />

separately in supporting Report 3 <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> wider issues raised <strong>on</strong><br />

implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

6. Inevitably <strong>the</strong>re is great diversity in <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments c<strong>on</strong>tained in <strong>the</strong><br />

1,362 resp<strong>on</strong>ses. This reflects <strong>the</strong> wide range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dent interests and <strong>the</strong><br />

detail <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some resp<strong>on</strong>ses. Many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> comments reflected <strong>the</strong> policy interests<br />

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<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> organisati<strong>on</strong>s – for example, public agency, NGO or local authority – while a<br />

large proporti<strong>on</strong> came from individuals, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten with str<strong>on</strong>gly expressed views.<br />

Some resp<strong>on</strong>ses answered all <strong>the</strong> questi<strong>on</strong>s posed in <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultative <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Code, whilst o<strong>the</strong>rs were more selective, answering <strong>on</strong>ly a limited number<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> questi<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

7. This report aims to present material related to each questi<strong>on</strong> posed in <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>sultative <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Access Code. For each questi<strong>on</strong>, material is<br />

presented <strong>on</strong>:<br />

• The number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to that questi<strong>on</strong>. Inevitably, this can <strong>on</strong>ly<br />

give an indicati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> scale and<br />

varied nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

• The different types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>. These different types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

have been grouped to generate answer categories comprising similar<br />

comments and views. This typically divided comments in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those<br />

‘for’ or ‘against’ <strong>the</strong> propositi<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> questi<strong>on</strong>. For example, some answer<br />

categories for Questi<strong>on</strong> G3 (that is, ‘Does <strong>the</strong> Code provide clear, sensible<br />

and helpful practical guidance <strong>on</strong> rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities…?’) were:<br />

‘Yes’; ‘No, goes bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>…’; and ‘No, doesn’t go<br />

far enough…’. More detail <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grouping comments and<br />

generating answer categories is provided in Annex 1 - an extract <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

analysis process outlined in Report 1.<br />

• The main resp<strong>on</strong>dents to each answer category are listed by <strong>the</strong> code given<br />

to each resp<strong>on</strong>se. The key to <strong>the</strong> coding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents is provided in<br />

Annex 2.<br />

8. Fur<strong>the</strong>r, for each questi<strong>on</strong>:<br />

• A selecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> quotati<strong>on</strong>s is provided to illustrate <strong>the</strong> views <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> for each<br />

answer category; and<br />

• A c<strong>on</strong>cluding summary statement drawn from <strong>the</strong> analysis is presented.<br />

9. The c<strong>on</strong>cluding summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> each questi<strong>on</strong> is presented in<br />

terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>:<br />

• Whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong>re was support for <strong>the</strong> guidance provided in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code;<br />

• The key issues and c<strong>on</strong>cerns <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> by resp<strong>on</strong>dents; and<br />

• The main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code in accepting, reflecting <strong>on</strong>,<br />

or rejecting comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

10. Supplementary comments ga<strong>the</strong>red in additi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> specific resp<strong>on</strong>ses to <strong>the</strong><br />

questi<strong>on</strong>s are incorporated, where appropriate, into this report.<br />

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11. Finally, SNH would like to take this opportunity to record our thanks to <strong>the</strong><br />

many individuals and organisati<strong>on</strong>s who took <strong>the</strong> trouble to resp<strong>on</strong>d to <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>sultative <strong>draft</strong> Code. We hope that this report has captured <strong>the</strong> many and<br />

different opini<strong>on</strong>s and views expressed.<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Natural Heritage<br />

22 December 2003<br />

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<str<strong>on</strong>g>Analysis</str<strong>on</strong>g> and c<strong>on</strong>clusi<strong>on</strong>s drawn from <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Questi<strong>on</strong> G1 - Does <strong>the</strong> Code provide an acceptable reference point <strong>on</strong> access rights and <strong>the</strong><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users and land managers?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

G1a. Yes<br />

A/0009/X, A/0036/X, A/0037/X,<br />

A/0362/X, A/0373/X, A/0382/X/d,<br />

A/0621/Y, A/0105/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0289/X, A/1344/X, A/1351/X,<br />

A/1338/X, A/1283/X, A/0967/X,<br />

A/1073/X, A/1081/X, A/1084/X,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0471/X/d, A/0475/X,<br />

A/0598/X, A/0469/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0718/X, A/0719/X/d, A/0724/X,<br />

A/0726/X, A/0762/X, A/0774/X,<br />

A/1381/ B/0620/Y, B/0631/X,<br />

B/0312/X, B/0551/X, B/0668/X,<br />

B/0673/X, B/0679/X, B/0260/X,<br />

B/1313/X, B/0879/X, B/1160/X,<br />

B/0983/X, B/0406/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0419/X, B/0794/X, C/0070/X,<br />

D/0350/Y, D/0175/Y, D/0521/X,<br />

D/1274/Y, E/0616/X, F/0998/X,<br />

F/1050/X, F/1134/X, G/0559/Y,<br />

G/1254/X, G/0960/X, G/1098/X,<br />

G/0604/X, G/0468/X, G/0795/X,<br />

G/1057/X, G/1044/X, H/1349/X,<br />

H/1222/X, H/0808/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0515/X, H/1128/X,<br />

J/1203/X, K/0714/X, L/0647/X,<br />

L/0527/X, L/0513/X, L/1026/X,<br />

L/0992/X, L/0410/X, L/0439/X,<br />

L/0747/X, M/0463/X, M/0829/X,<br />

M/1154/X, N/0694/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0491/X, P/0274/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/1219/X, P/1237/X,<br />

P/1247/X, P/1296/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0889/X, P/0928/X, P/0492/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/1060/X, Q/0357/X,<br />

Q/0364/X, Q/0176/X, Q/0309/X,<br />

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Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

I wish to register my general welcome for this <strong>draft</strong> code, <strong>the</strong> emphasis in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a<br />

'presumpti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to <strong>the</strong> outdoors etc.' is clearly stated. (A/0289/X)<br />

We welcome <strong>the</strong> general t<strong>on</strong>e and recommendati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> The Code, in so far as it<br />

provides a guide for those who wish to exercise access resp<strong>on</strong>sibility. (B/0406/X)<br />

The SOAC appears generally to be a sensible guide to decent behaviour and<br />

c<strong>on</strong>structive approaches in <strong>the</strong> light <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> new legislati<strong>on</strong>. (L/0992/X)<br />

The Draft Access Code is to be welcomed in many respects since it helps clarify <strong>the</strong><br />

relative positi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers and access takers where <strong>the</strong> picture was ra<strong>the</strong>r<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fused previously. (X/0405/X/d)<br />

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G1b. No<br />

Q/0333/X, Q/0256/X, Q/1230/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/0828/X, Q/0415/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

R/0395/Y, R/1221/X, R/1090/X,<br />

U/1242/Y, V/0035/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0074/X, W/0143/X, W/0145/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0617/X, W/0179/X,<br />

W/0180/X, W/0182/X, W/0168/X,<br />

W/0530/X, W/0268/, W/0279/X,<br />

W/0301/X, W/0328/X, W/0562/X,<br />

W/1018/X, W/1029/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/0977/X/d, W/0979/X,<br />

W/1202/X, W/1204/X, W/1217/X,<br />

W/1225/X, W/0112/X, W/0926/X,<br />

W/1052/X/d, W/0986/X, W/0817/X,<br />

W/0886/X, W/1001/X/d, W/0972/X,<br />

W/1080/X/d, W/0578/X, W/0221/X,<br />

W/0235/X, W/0403/X, W/0434/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0746/X, W/0758/X,<br />

W/0781/X, W/0789/X, W/1054/X,<br />

W/1149/X, W/1111/X, X/0644/X,<br />

X/0193/X/d, X/0196/X, X/1345/X,<br />

X/1212/X, X/0989/X, X/1069/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d, X/0784/X.<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0259/Y/d, A/1333/X,<br />

A/0636/X, B/0366/X, B/0376/X,<br />

B/0377/X, B/0380/X, B/0385/X/d,<br />

B/0628/X, B/0317/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0305/X, B/315/X, B/1019/X,<br />

B/1025/X, B/1027/X, B/0456/X,<br />

B/0956/X, B/1335/, B/0443/X,<br />

B/1238/X, B/1250/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/1347/X, B/0816/X, B/0891/X,<br />

B/1152/X, B/0936/X, B/0938/X/d,<br />

B/0969/X, B/0227/X/d, B/0428/X/d,<br />

B/0436/X, B/0506/X, B/0461/X,<br />

B/0465/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0472/X,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0731/X, B/0741/X,<br />

B/1356/, E/0516/X, G/1330/X/d,<br />

H/0959/X, J/1028/X, J/1058/X,<br />

I would stress that I am a keen walker, hill walker, and have seen no problems, in fact<br />

you are creating more problems <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Access Code now, (A/0636/X)<br />

As <strong>the</strong> owner <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a garden which is open to <strong>the</strong> public under <strong>the</strong> Scotland's Gardens<br />

Scheme I am very c<strong>on</strong>cerned about <strong>the</strong> implicati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> proposed access code.<br />

(B/0377/X)<br />

At present access takers and access providers are likely to interpret it differently, giving<br />

rise to more strife than harm<strong>on</strong>y. As it stands <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code is not an acceptable<br />

reference point. (B/0956/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> makes an unacceptable political statement. "a nati<strong>on</strong>al asset to enjoy and<br />

look after" (B/0465/X)<br />

In general we would like to see more practical advice to land managers <strong>on</strong> exactly what<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <strong>the</strong>y hold and more practical examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what would be c<strong>on</strong>sidered<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible acti<strong>on</strong>s by land managers. (K/0444/X)<br />

"Having read <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code makes very worrying reading as <strong>the</strong><br />

proposal have obviously been drawn up by amateurs who have no ideas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> working<br />

countryside and how dangerous it can be. (W/0779/X)<br />

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G1c. Not acceptable<br />

regarding Rights<br />

J/1255/X, K/0444/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0577/X, Q/0974/X, Q/0866/X/d,<br />

W/0381/X, W/0618/X, W/0190/X,<br />

W/0524/X, W/1012/X, W/1023/X,<br />

W/0457/X, W/0803/X, W/0810/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/0993/X, W/0950/X/d, W/0955/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0591/X, W/0610/X,<br />

W/0612/X, W/0708/X/d, W/0779/X,<br />

W/1035/X, X/0358/X, X/0543/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0421/X.<br />

A/1326/X, A/0437/X, A/0927/X,<br />

A/0422/X, G/0386/X, G/0854/X,<br />

G/0920/Y/ , Q/0157/X, W/1342/X,<br />

W/0607/X, W/0430/X/d, W/0705/X.<br />

The definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access includes <strong>the</strong> right to cross land/water, remain <strong>on</strong> it before<br />

leaving it both for <strong>the</strong> purposes defined and for getting from <strong>on</strong>e place to ano<strong>the</strong>r. For<br />

many canoeists access may include time when <strong>the</strong>y stay <strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong>e place <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> water for a<br />

while ei<strong>the</strong>r to enjoy <strong>the</strong> surroundings, receive instructi<strong>on</strong>, assess <strong>the</strong> best line, play <strong>on</strong> a<br />

wave, picnic or set up safety cover <strong>on</strong> a more technical rapid. These activities require<br />

access for l<strong>on</strong>ger than would be required to simply pass down a stretch over river. The<br />

exclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "land or water that has been developed or set out for a recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

purpose" requires to be more clearly defined as not covering fishing rivers, to bring <strong>the</strong><br />

definiti<strong>on</strong> in line with <strong>the</strong> guidance issued by ministers during <strong>the</strong> passage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land<br />

Reform Act through Parliament. (A/1326/X)<br />

The Code relates to <strong>the</strong> statutory rights established under this Act; it does not alter or<br />

affect o<strong>the</strong>r access rights under comm<strong>on</strong> law or customary freedoms. This should be<br />

clearly stated within <strong>the</strong> Code; this could be d<strong>on</strong>e by prefacing <strong>the</strong> currently used term<br />

"access rights" with <strong>the</strong> word "statutory" when referring to rights under <strong>the</strong> 2003 Act.<br />

(A/0927/X)<br />

We have c<strong>on</strong>cerns over <strong>the</strong> language used throughout <strong>the</strong> Code. At <strong>the</strong> outset, <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

states that it is to be <strong>the</strong> 'reference point' <strong>on</strong> access rights. However, it is our<br />

understanding that it is <strong>the</strong> reference point <strong>on</strong>ly for <strong>the</strong> statutory rights established under<br />

<strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act. We ask, <strong>the</strong>refore that <strong>the</strong> word 'statutory' be inserted<br />

as appropriate to make this clear. (G/0854/X)<br />

The Land Reform (Scotland) Act (<strong>the</strong> Act) gives SNH <strong>the</strong> duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> preparing a Code that<br />

will give guidance, in relati<strong>on</strong> to access rights, <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> circumstances in which those<br />

exercising managing <strong>the</strong> rights are doing so in a resp<strong>on</strong>sible or irresp<strong>on</strong>sible manner. So<br />

<strong>the</strong> focus <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is clearly about resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour, and it is appropriate that it<br />

should be a reference point for access resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. However, <strong>the</strong> Act does not<br />

require <strong>the</strong> Code to provide advice <strong>on</strong> access rights - <strong>the</strong>se are detailed in <strong>the</strong> Act. It<br />

would be useful if <strong>the</strong> Code was to assist in public understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> by<br />

presenting it in easily understood language. SNH must be careful not to change <strong>the</strong><br />

meaning and intent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act by <strong>the</strong> words it uses in <strong>the</strong> Code. (G/0920/Y)<br />

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G1d. Not acceptable<br />

regarding Resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities<br />

G1e. O<strong>the</strong>r<br />

A/0155/X, B/0366/X, B/0624/X,<br />

B/0116/X/d, B/0329/X, B/0331/X,<br />

B/0512/X/d, B/0814/X, B/0840/X,<br />

B/1062/X, B/0226/X, L/0513/X,<br />

P/0878/X, Q/0323/X, W/0273/X,<br />

W/1315/ .<br />

A/0134/X/d, B/0151/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0638/X/d, B/0167/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/0238/X, B/1301/X, B/1005/X,<br />

B/0801/X, B/0826/X/d, B/1173/X,<br />

B/1063/X, B/0585/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0488/X/d, B/0711/X, B/0738/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0760/X, C/0721/X,<br />

G/1214/X, G/1229/X, G/0604/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/0220/X, H/1042/X,<br />

K/1302/X, K/1241/X, K/0722/X,<br />

L/0659/X, P/1304/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/0899/X, P/0491/X,<br />

Q/1233/X, Q/1178/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, R/1278/X, R/0121/X,<br />

U/1172/X, W/0071/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0498/, W/0669/X/d, W/1016/X,<br />

W/1282/X, W/0812/Y, W/1119/X,<br />

W/0217/X, W/0700/X, W/0775/X,<br />

X/0509/Y, X/1056/X.<br />

The Code requires to be more prescriptive setting out specifically what or what does not<br />

fall within <strong>the</strong> meaning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (B/0512/X/d)<br />

As a Farmer who has reared Livestock for over 50 years I would like to know how it is<br />

possible for any Access to enclosed land with Livestock, can be termed resp<strong>on</strong>sible?<br />

(B/0814/X)<br />

More emphasis should be placed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility to help land managers. The test<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is currently set too low. (B/0226/X)<br />

Hopefully access will be c<strong>on</strong>sidered irresp<strong>on</strong>sible if it severely hinders wealth creati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(W/1315/ )<br />

The Code has been written by reas<strong>on</strong>able people for reas<strong>on</strong>able people. Unfortunately<br />

this approach fails to take <strong>on</strong> board that <strong>the</strong> main problem with access occurs when<br />

ei<strong>the</strong>r people are unreas<strong>on</strong>able, or when <strong>the</strong>re are too many (reas<strong>on</strong>able or<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able) people for <strong>the</strong> site to bear without damage or disturbance to o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

interests. The Code is very weak in addressing both <strong>the</strong>se problems. (B/0167/X)<br />

I haven't read <strong>the</strong> hefty SNH document from cover to cover due to lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> time and<br />

inclinati<strong>on</strong>. I suspect, having glanced at it , that it is very much in <strong>the</strong> mould <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> most SNH<br />

documents - fundamentally out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> touch with reality. (B/1301/X)<br />

...a policy to promote public access rights particularly across farmed land, where <strong>the</strong>re is<br />

a lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> fragile nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment, is in itself irresp<strong>on</strong>sible.<br />

(B/0760/X)<br />

While we remain supportive <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this general approach to this issue, we feel that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code, as published, is ra<strong>the</strong>r disappointing in its treatment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> nature c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong><br />

issues. (K/1302/X)<br />

The <strong>draft</strong> code is a useful reference point, but <strong>the</strong>re are still areas where it could be<br />

improved, in particular <strong>the</strong> informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public bodies and local<br />

authorities is inadequate. (K/1241/X)<br />

Whilst we believe <strong>the</strong> code might prove a good reference point, we are nervous that it is<br />

too verbose in places to be practical. (Q/1178/X)<br />

sportscotland str<strong>on</strong>gly recommends that <strong>the</strong> Code should be based primarily <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> key<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities that appear <strong>on</strong> pages 28 and 39 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document and that all<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r text should be regarded as fur<strong>the</strong>r guidance, explanati<strong>on</strong> or supplementary<br />

informati<strong>on</strong>. The key resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities being in effect <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour. ........... Appendix 1 is based <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> advice <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pages 28 and 39 but also<br />

includes what sportscotland c<strong>on</strong>siders as <strong>the</strong> fundamental guidance <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

access included in <strong>the</strong> text <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> chapers 3 and 4 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document but which<br />

does not currently appear <strong>on</strong> pages 28 and 39. sportscotland c<strong>on</strong>siders that <strong>the</strong> majority<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informati<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>tained in chapters 3 and 4 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sutlati<strong>on</strong> document should be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sidered as supplementary to <strong>the</strong> Code, necessary to amplify and explain <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

ra<strong>the</strong>r than form part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code itself. (R/1278/X)<br />

The text has emphasised <strong>on</strong> countryside access ra<strong>the</strong>r than outdoor access I.e. urban<br />

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Summary -<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

and periurban access does not seem well covered and yet is where 90% <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> problems<br />

occur. (W/0071/X)<br />

We welcome <strong>the</strong> reference in <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong> and secti<strong>on</strong> 1.8 to open space in towns.<br />

This is very useful because <strong>the</strong>re still appears to be a comm<strong>on</strong> misc<strong>on</strong>cepti<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong><br />

access rights apply <strong>on</strong>ly to <strong>the</strong> wider countryside. It would be helpful if this message<br />

could be reinforced in <strong>the</strong> summary versi<strong>on</strong>s and associated informati<strong>on</strong> and promoti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

by use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> appropriate words and particularly images. (X/1056/X)<br />

Overall, <strong>the</strong>re was agreement that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code provides an acceptable reference point <strong>on</strong> access rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. Whilst <strong>the</strong>re was general<br />

support, a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cerns were raised by both land managers and recreati<strong>on</strong> users <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> detail <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultative <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

The main areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cern raised in resp<strong>on</strong>ses relate to <strong>the</strong> need for fur<strong>the</strong>r clarity in advising:<br />

• that <strong>the</strong> Act does not affect customary access or rights established under comm<strong>on</strong> law (such as public rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way);<br />

• <strong>on</strong> specific resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities in particular circumstances, e.g. dogs and livestock;<br />

• <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public bodies and local authorities in implementing <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong>; and<br />

• <strong>the</strong> areas where <strong>the</strong> new statutory rights apply.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

SNH has sought to reflect <strong>the</strong>se comments in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code. In order to provide <strong>the</strong> clarity sought, <strong>the</strong> text has been both sharpened and expanded<br />

appropriately. For example, fur<strong>the</strong>r guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> possible effects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access <strong>on</strong> nature c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> interests is c<strong>on</strong>tained in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> G2 - Does <strong>the</strong> Code provide a balanced outcome in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

both users and land managers under <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

G2a. Yes<br />

A/0009/X, A/0362/X, A/0097/X,<br />

A/0500/Y/d, A/0518/X, A/1194/X,<br />

A/0661/X, A/0666/X, A/1283/X,<br />

A/0968/X, A/1084/X, A/0135/X,<br />

A/0133/X, A/0469/X, A/0487/X,<br />

A/0743/X, A/1037/X, B/0015/,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0120/X, B/0178/X,<br />

B/0540/X, B/0668/X, B/0673/X,<br />

B/0247/X, B/0839/X, B/0874/X,<br />

B/0931/X/d, B/0409/X, B/0715/X,<br />

B/0715/X, B/1039/X/d, B/0041/X,<br />

C/0070/X, D/0093/X, D/1274/Y,<br />

G/0082/X, G/0189/X, G/0960/X,<br />

G/0584/X/d, G/0468/X, G/0730/X,<br />

G/1057/X, J/1203/X, J/1051/X,<br />

K/0722/X, L/0185/X, L/0520/X,<br />

L/0410/X, L/0439/X, L/1055/X,<br />

L/0410/X, M/0667/X, M/0463/X,<br />

N/0773/X, P/0642/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1296/X, P/1060/X, Q/0357/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/1312/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/0232/X, R/1221/X,<br />

R/0868/X, R/0763/X, U/1242/Y,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0061/X, W/0063/X,<br />

W/0074/X, W/0102/X, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0119/X, W/0182/X, W/0511/X,<br />

W/0328/X, W/0334/X, W/0542/X,<br />

W/0562/X, W/0675/X, W/1016/X,<br />

W/1202/X, W/1204/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/0843/X, W/1085/X, W/0221/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/1149/X, X/0637/X,<br />

X/0193/X/d.<br />

G2b. No<br />

A/0933/X, B/0288/X/d, B/1240/X,<br />

B/0731/X, B/0772/X, B/1133/X,<br />

B/0294/X, E/0523/X, G/0854/X,<br />

H/1348/X, J/1058/X, Q/0739/X,<br />

W/0524/X, W/0589/X, W/0130/X/d,<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

I was impressed with <strong>the</strong> Draft Access Code. Like <strong>the</strong> Land Reform Act (Scotland)<br />

2003), it strikes for <strong>the</strong> most part exactly <strong>the</strong> right balance <strong>the</strong> access rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

general public and <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers to carry <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir work without interference.<br />

(A/0743/X)<br />

An excellent balance has been reached between <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access and <strong>the</strong><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users and landowners. (G/0189/X)<br />

The Code will be a useful reference point for both recreati<strong>on</strong>al users and land managers<br />

and does appear to strike a reas<strong>on</strong>able balanace between <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both. (R/0868/X)<br />

Given that it represents a serious erosi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our rights as landowners, we feel that it for<br />

<strong>the</strong> most part, strikes a good balance between land-managers and <strong>the</strong> public.<br />

(X/0193/X/d)<br />

The document is not balanced. The resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities being mainly that <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> occupier and<br />

rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access raker. O<strong>the</strong>r land uses become incidental to recreati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Please do not ignore <strong>the</strong> fact that countryside and rural businesses provide jobs and<br />

investment in rural communities. (B/0288/X/d)<br />

If this code is to work, and all <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> us who live and earn <strong>the</strong>ir living in <strong>the</strong> countryside<br />

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G2c. Not balanced: Code<br />

favours users / too many<br />

restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> land<br />

managers<br />

/1371/. earnestly hope it will, I would have thought that any encouragement to <strong>the</strong> public to be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong>al, which is what I get from this document, should be avoided and a much<br />

more c<strong>on</strong>ciliatory and or balanced approach, which is how <strong>the</strong> vast majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> country<br />

folk behave, should be <strong>the</strong> underlying <strong>the</strong>me <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code. (B/0731/X)<br />

"Does <strong>the</strong> code strike a sensible balance -------" The answer is obviously NO.<br />

(W/0130/X/d)<br />

B/0798/X, B/0628/X, A/0077/X,<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0719/X/d, B/0571/X,<br />

B/0571/X, B/0337/X, B/0152/X,<br />

B/0342/X, B/0376/X, B/0385/X/d,<br />

B/0620/Y, B/0628/X, B/0631/X,<br />

B/0634/X, B/0638/X/d, B/0116/X/d,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0183/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0293/X, B/1195/X, B/0535/X,<br />

B/0545/X, B/0563/X, B/0569/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/1015/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/1027/X, B/1030/X, B/0141/X,<br />

B/0258/X, B/0209/X/d, B/0956/X,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0446/X, B/1208/X,<br />

B/1210/X, B/1250/X, B/1271/X,<br />

B/0802/X, B/1347/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0834/X, B/0835/X,<br />

B/0879/X, B/0883/X, B/0912/X,<br />

B/0925/X, B/1152/X, B/0935/X,<br />

B/0954/X, B/1062/X, B/0593/X,<br />

B/0599/X/d, B/0608/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0419/X, B/0510/X, B/0465/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0480/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0681/X, B/0704/X, B/0741/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0760/X, B/0761/X,<br />

B/0782/X, B/1049/X, B/1033/X,<br />

B/1131/X, B/1142/X, B/1108/X,<br />

B/1117/X, B/0294/X, E/0523/X,<br />

E/1257/X, E/0906/X, E/0921/X,<br />

E/0923/X, E/0703/X, F/0998/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, H/0534/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/1179/X, H/0988/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/0959/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0515/X, J/1058/X,<br />

M/0101/X, P/0384/X, P/1219/X,<br />

The resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities are balanced but I feel that <strong>the</strong> practical burden will be borne by <strong>the</strong><br />

static and easily c<strong>on</strong>tacted land manger. The imbalance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this load cannot be covered<br />

by <strong>the</strong> code and should be addressed through land management grants or simple routes<br />

for compensati<strong>on</strong>. (A/0719/X/d)<br />

Imbalance in <strong>the</strong> access code. The code should put more emphasis <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

those who live and work <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> land e.g. farming activities should take precedence over<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities. (B/0571/X)<br />

A balanced outcome? No. Almost everything seems to be saying what <strong>the</strong> user may do,<br />

how <strong>the</strong> land manager should allow it and how <strong>the</strong>y should both behave perfectly…..I do<br />

not think my interests as owner are properly represented in <strong>the</strong> code. (B/0620/Y)<br />

The problem is that <strong>the</strong> land manager is static and can be "clobbered" by higher<br />

authority but <strong>the</strong> access taker can not. Both <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> and now <strong>the</strong> code do not<br />

provide any way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> addressing this issue, Its too late to change <strong>the</strong> Act but not <strong>the</strong> code:<br />

put more emphasis <strong>on</strong> land managers right to c<strong>on</strong>trol irresp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (B/0826/X/d)<br />

A natural asset to enjoy and look after - is this for <strong>the</strong> majority to enjoy and <strong>the</strong> minority<br />

to look after? (B/1108/X)<br />

Although <strong>the</strong> Code tries to address <strong>the</strong> rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both users and land<br />

managers, <strong>the</strong> balance overall seems to be towards giving rights to <strong>the</strong> user and<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities to <strong>the</strong> land manager, with insufficient safeguards for <strong>the</strong>ir rights.<br />

(H/0988/X)<br />

Many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> points <strong>on</strong> which comment is invited relate to BALANCE, and it might indeed<br />

appear that <strong>the</strong> Code is heavily weighted against landowners. However, in this respect<br />

<strong>the</strong> Code merely reflects <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act. The overall balance is established by <strong>the</strong><br />

Act, and is not <strong>the</strong>refore at this stage open to negotiati<strong>on</strong>. (M/0101/X)<br />

You would seem to be c<strong>on</strong>cerned to strike a fair balance between "land users" and "land<br />

managers" but <strong>the</strong> code immediately introduces bias by denying <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cept <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land<br />

ownership. Most people understand <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cept <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "ownership" and that c<strong>on</strong>cept<br />

enables <strong>the</strong>m to appreciate that if you own something you have more rights over its use<br />

than some<strong>on</strong>e who does not own it or have any resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for its care and<br />

maintenance, (W/0566/X)<br />

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P/1300/X, P/0890/X, Q/0256/X,<br />

Q/0974/X, Q/1232/X, Q/1252/X,<br />

Q/1061/X, Q/0415/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

Q/0707/X, U/1172/X, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0348/X/d, W/0616/X,<br />

W/0103/X, W/0104/X, W/0292/X,<br />

W/0354/X/d, W/0853/X, W/1189/X,<br />

W/0533/X, W/0556/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/1014/X, W/1315/, W/1263/X,<br />

W/1280/X, W/0926/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/0990/X/d, W/0817/X, W/0907/X,<br />

W/1159/X/d, W/0950/X/d,<br />

W/0962/X/d, W/0972/X, W/1119/X,<br />

W/1123/X, W/0217/X, W/0435/X,<br />

W/0490/X, W/0483/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0735/X, W/0771/X, W/0780/X,<br />

W/1110/X, X/0543/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/0122/X, X/0727/X.<br />

G2d. Not balanced:<br />

Code favours land<br />

managers / too many<br />

restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> users<br />

A/0155/X, A/0098/X, A/0330/X,<br />

A/0537/X, A/0557/X, A/0290/X,<br />

A/0477/X, A/0740/X, G/0146/X,<br />

G/0854/X, G/0900/X, G/0736/X/d,<br />

K/1241/X, L/1026/X, L/0791/X,<br />

P/0274/X, Q/0930/X, Q/0415/X,<br />

R/1278/X, W/0278/X, W/0071/X,<br />

W/0498/, W/0508/X, W/0307/X,<br />

W/1018/X, W/1342/X, W/0198/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0489/X, W/0792/X,<br />

W/1054/X, W/1040/X.<br />

Annex 1 It is interesting to note that all <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences listed are those which can be<br />

committed by access takers, while <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences which may be committed by land managers<br />

are omitted entirely. This greatly undermines <strong>the</strong> balance and impartiality <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

There should be an Annex covering <strong>the</strong> duties <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager. (A/0098/C)<br />

The presentati<strong>on</strong> sees <strong>the</strong> issues <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> two groups: recreati<strong>on</strong>ists <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>on</strong>e hand and land owners and managers <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r. The first group wanting access:<br />

<strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r wishing to c<strong>on</strong>trol access. This is altoge<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> wr<strong>on</strong>g approach for it will<br />

perpetuate a climate <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong> and gives <strong>the</strong> impressi<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> Code has been<br />

<strong>draft</strong>ed so as to maintain as far as possible <strong>the</strong> current powers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol access solely in <strong>the</strong>ir terms without regard to <strong>the</strong> wider needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public.<br />

(G/0146/X)<br />

The tenor <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document is unbalanced, c<strong>on</strong>centrating <strong>on</strong> how to minimise<br />

inc<strong>on</strong>venience to land managers and <strong>the</strong>reby giving <strong>the</strong> impressi<strong>on</strong> that it is <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

interests that should take priority in <strong>the</strong> outdoors. (R/1278/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> Code is about Land Management and <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>trol <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access ra<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>the</strong><br />

facilitating <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access provided by <strong>the</strong> Act. It is a land management tool ra<strong>the</strong>r<br />

than an aid to individuals exercising basic freedoms. (W/0489/X)<br />

The Draft Code perpetuates and, to some extent, emphasises <strong>the</strong> divisi<strong>on</strong> between<br />

those accessing land and those who ei<strong>the</strong>r own or manage it. …….<strong>the</strong>re is <strong>the</strong><br />

presumpti<strong>on</strong> that members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public exercising access are less likely to behave<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibly than are landowners and land managers. (W/1040/X)<br />

G2e. Code needs more A/0927/X, B/0622/X, B/0626/X, This secti<strong>on</strong> should also make note <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> fact that Scotland has a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> existing<br />

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informati<strong>on</strong> for those<br />

undertaking activities<br />

outwith access rights<br />

G2f. O<strong>the</strong>r<br />

B/0628/X, B/1117/X, E/0616/X,<br />

G/0854/X, G/1192/X, G/0831/X,<br />

G/0604/X, P/0640/X, Q/0930/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/1227/X/d.<br />

G/1226/X, W/1085/X, B/1323/X,<br />

H/0807/X, W/1085/X, W/0700/X,<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0825/X, A/0997/X,<br />

A/1073/X, A/1077/X, A/1081/X,<br />

A/0737/, A/0796/X/d, B/0622/X,<br />

B/1197/X, B/0551/X, B/0558/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/1292/X, B/1078/X,<br />

B/1093/X, B/1094/X, B/1096/X,<br />

B/0608/X, B/0613/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0752/X, B/0783/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/1144/X, B/1145/X, C/0721/X,<br />

C/0721/X, G/0657/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/0831/X, G/1098/X, G/0580/X,<br />

G/0604/X, H/1103/X, H/0807/X,<br />

J/1255/X, J/1284/X, M/1258/X,<br />

N/1297/X, P/0646/X, P/0899/X,<br />

Q/1185/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0739/X, R/0549/X, V/0398/X,<br />

W/0017/X, W/0556/X, W/0562/X,<br />

W/0566/X, W/1260/X/d,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/1123/X, W/0586/X,<br />

W/0587/X, W/0222/X, W/0746/X,<br />

W/0746/X, W/0780/X, W/0781/X,<br />

comm<strong>on</strong> law rights and customary freedoms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access; <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act<br />

2003 adds to <strong>the</strong>se by establishing statutory public rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access for recreati<strong>on</strong>al and<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r purposes. The Code should make it clear that <strong>the</strong> Act does not alter or reduce<br />

<strong>the</strong>se existing rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> entry, way, passage or access. (A/0927/X)<br />

Notable by its absence from <strong>the</strong> main body <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is any discussi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> impact<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access taking <strong>on</strong> shooting and o<strong>the</strong>r country sports. (B/0628/X)<br />

We support <strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> MC<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>S and RAS that <strong>the</strong> code should give guidance <strong>on</strong><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour to <strong>the</strong> outdoors in a general sense both within and outwith access<br />

rights. We would stress, however, that what is being sought is guidance and not<br />

prescripti<strong>on</strong>. (G/0854/X)<br />

Hunting shooting and fishing are not c<strong>on</strong>sidered in <strong>the</strong> Code, but shooting arrangements<br />

dictate much <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my (and many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my friends) access as a horse rider in winter. Shooting<br />

parties also litter <strong>the</strong> countryside with spent cartridges. The BHS and BASC have<br />

developed a code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility, since <strong>the</strong>re have been a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> accidents to<br />

riders unaware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> shooting near bridleways. To refer to that in <strong>the</strong> Access Code may be<br />

relevant. (G/1192/X)<br />

NB There is overlap between individuals as users and land managers - <strong>the</strong>y are not<br />

exclusive categories. (A/0825/X)<br />

I also feel that in its current from <strong>the</strong> code will have a large impact <strong>on</strong> my ability to enjoy<br />

my sport…… I feel that both angling and canoeing are recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities and <strong>the</strong><br />

Access Code should be written in such a way as to place <strong>the</strong>m <strong>on</strong> an equal footing. If <strong>the</strong><br />

code is to ask canoeists to wait for a signal before passing quietly by anglers it should<br />

also advise anglers not to commence fishing near where canoeists are paddling or<br />

practising manoeuvers. (A/1073/X)<br />

However, <strong>the</strong>re is <strong>on</strong>e area close to my heart that I feel is understated in <strong>the</strong> document.<br />

Although menti<strong>on</strong>ed a few times I feel <strong>the</strong> guidelines are too vague & leave too much<br />

room for error <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public. I am refering specifically to Wildlife/C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong><br />

areas & <strong>the</strong>ir need for protecti<strong>on</strong>. (B/0551/X)<br />

The above access code may apply better to hill land but certainly for in bye land it needs<br />

to favour <strong>the</strong> landowner - you are asking us to be PARK RANGERS with no wage!!<br />

(B/1144/X)<br />

There is a tendency in <strong>the</strong> Code to over emphasise farming as a land use to <strong>the</strong><br />

detriment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> forestry and sport. At <strong>the</strong> beginning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code this should be<br />

acknowledged and appreciated as land managers are clearly expected to devote time to<br />

access without recompense. (B/0558/X)<br />

The code is imbalanced in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pedestrian access takers with too much emphasis<br />

<strong>on</strong> defining <strong>the</strong> rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this group. There are no clear rights and<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities for o<strong>the</strong>r users, in this instance cyclists and horse riders. Clearer<br />

statements are required to ensure <strong>the</strong>se groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users know how to behave<br />

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Summary -<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

W/1135/X, W/1111/X, X/1298/X.<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibly to o<strong>the</strong>r access users and landowners. This should be supported using<br />

simple examples and likely day to day scenarios. (G/0657/X)<br />

As <strong>draft</strong>ed, <strong>the</strong> Code lacks balance and dem<strong>on</strong>strates little understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> needs<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land owners and managers. The SLF would like to see <strong>the</strong> Code revised to reflect<br />

better <strong>the</strong> need for access rights to integrate with land management, not to over-ride<br />

<strong>the</strong>se ec<strong>on</strong>omic activities. (H/1103/X)<br />

The Code gives a golden opportunity to ensure <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people with disabilities are<br />

built into <strong>the</strong> process, ra<strong>the</strong>r than added as an adjunct or, worse, subject to remedy by<br />

complaint. (M/1258/X)<br />

In light <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our comments above, we were c<strong>on</strong>cerned to read <strong>the</strong> accompanying notes <strong>on</strong><br />

page 33, para 10. These give <strong>the</strong> impressi<strong>on</strong> that no power to suspend access exists,<br />

that <strong>the</strong> land manager's obligati<strong>on</strong>s under HSWA can be dealt with by assuming<br />

every<strong>on</strong>e will be sensible and that walking or cycling al<strong>on</strong>g a road is more dangerous<br />

anyway. If <strong>the</strong> code is to be <strong>the</strong> balanced document I am sure you intend it to be, it<br />

needs to avoid such narrow and misleading statements. (R/0549/X)<br />

There was a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> views <strong>on</strong> whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was balanced, with comment – both positive and negative - coming from a cross secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>dent types. However, a large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses from those with land management interests thought that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was not balanced and,<br />

by placing more restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir interests, tended to favour recreati<strong>on</strong> users.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

A number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised, particularly from land managers, referred back to <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> itself. These resp<strong>on</strong>dents felt that <strong>the</strong> Act<br />

favoured <strong>the</strong> interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker and that <strong>the</strong>re was over-emphasis <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> possible impacts <strong>on</strong> farming, compared to <strong>the</strong> more limited guidance <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> effects <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r land management operati<strong>on</strong>s such as forestry and sporting interests. Similarly, when advising recreati<strong>on</strong> users, <strong>the</strong>re was a percepti<strong>on</strong><br />

that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was biased towards serving <strong>the</strong> interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walkers ra<strong>the</strong>r than those <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r users, such as horseriders, cyclists and people with<br />

disabilities.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The Proposed Code cannot amend <strong>the</strong> extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights set out in legislati<strong>on</strong>. However, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code does reflect many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> comments<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> and explains more about <strong>the</strong> background to <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. The Proposed Code also has more examples to illustrate resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. In this<br />

respect, <strong>the</strong>re is now greater reference to water-based activities, to horse riders and cyclists and people with disabilities and to a wider range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land<br />

management activities.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

G3 - Does <strong>the</strong> Code provide clear, sensible and helpful practical guidance <strong>on</strong><br />

access rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities that you can use to make informed decisi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

about everyday situati<strong>on</strong>s in <strong>the</strong> outdoors?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

G3a. Yes - clear, sensible<br />

and useable<br />

G3b. Clear and sensible,<br />

but doesn't cover enough<br />

day-to-day examples<br />

G3c. Not clear, sensible<br />

or practical<br />

A/0009/X, A/0655/X/d, A/0500/Y/d,<br />

A/0518/X, A/0846/X, A/1084/X,<br />

A/0469/X, B/0668/X, B/0673/X,<br />

B/0247/X, B/1205/X, B/0931/X/d,<br />

B/0715/X, B/0794/X, C/0070/X,<br />

D/1274/Y, E/0616/X, F/1134/X,<br />

G/0189/X, G/0960/X, G/0584/X/d,<br />

G/0468/X, G/0730/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0460/X, J/1203/X, J/1051/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0507/X, L/0520/X,<br />

L/0213/Y, L/0439/X, L/0747/X,<br />

L/0410/X, P/0384/X, P/1237/X,<br />

Q/0651/X, Q/0177/X, Q/0187/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/0828/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0611/X, Q/0232/X, Q/0479/X,<br />

W/0017/X, W/0074/X, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0511/X, W/0307/X,<br />

W/1332/X, W/1201/X, W/1202/X,<br />

W/1204/X, W/1217/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/0112/X, W/1052/X/d, W/0887/X,<br />

W/0972/X, W/0578/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/1149/X, X/1059/X.<br />

B/0620/Y, B/1019/X, B/0226/X,<br />

H/0808/X, P/0287/X, P/0928/X,<br />

Q/0304/X, V/0245/X, W/0843/X.<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0786/X/d, B/0142/X,<br />

B/0385/X/d, B/0628/X, B/0633/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0340/X, B/0293/X,<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

This is a well thought out document, easily understood and easy to follow. (A/0655/X/d)<br />

In general terms we think <strong>the</strong> Code is written in a clear, easily understood way which<br />

should help all users. (B/0931/X/d)<br />

It provides useful advice covering many complex issues. It formalises what many<br />

regarded was <strong>the</strong> traditi<strong>on</strong>al positi<strong>on</strong> under Scots law. (G/0189/X)<br />

In general, <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Wildlife Trust is satisfied that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code provides an<br />

acceptable reference point, and c<strong>on</strong>tains clear, helpful and practical guidance <strong>on</strong> access<br />

rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users and land mangers. (K/0714/X)<br />

It is easy to use to check access rights in particular instances. We appreciated <strong>the</strong><br />

Appendices <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> existing relevant law, and <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>tacts suggested in cases <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

disagreement over access in specific cases. (Q/0828/X)<br />

The Code is clearly explained but sometimes needs fur<strong>the</strong>r clarificati<strong>on</strong> e.g. "air sports"<br />

- does this include <strong>the</strong> noisy and intrusive sport <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> micro lighting? (2.8). … (2.13) needs<br />

fur<strong>the</strong>r interpretati<strong>on</strong> - would it include "outward bound" type schools? (B/0226/X)<br />

A secti<strong>on</strong> giving examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land management operati<strong>on</strong>s and c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> schemes<br />

would be very useful. Many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> above points may seem insignificant or are covered<br />

by o<strong>the</strong>r codes and legislati<strong>on</strong>, but by including <strong>the</strong>m in <strong>the</strong> Access Code <strong>the</strong> document<br />

would be more encompassing and c<strong>on</strong>sidered a more useful document that would be<br />

more likely to be referred to . (P/0928/X)<br />

In <strong>the</strong> past landowners / managers had <strong>the</strong> right to ask pers<strong>on</strong>s to leave or to refuse<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong>. It is perhaps not entirely clear whe<strong>the</strong>r or when such rights exist except in<br />

<strong>the</strong> case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour. (W/0843/X)<br />

There needs to be more emphasis throughout <strong>on</strong> comm<strong>on</strong> sense and courtesy/respect.<br />

(B/0142/X)<br />

The <strong>draft</strong> SOAC is at fault in trying to generalise when specific advice is needed and is<br />

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G3d. O<strong>the</strong>r<br />

B/0569/X, B/0241/X, B/0956/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1094/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0465/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0787/X/d,<br />

B/1133/X, B/0294 /X, B/0294/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/0921/X, H/0534/X,<br />

H/0552/X, H/0915/X, J/1284/X,<br />

N/0137/X, Q/0309/X, Q/0323/X,<br />

Q/0210/X, Q/0707/X, V/0398/X,<br />

W/0619/X, W/0190/X, W/1189/X,<br />

W/0531/X, W/1071/X, W/0221/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0735/X, X/0543/X.<br />

B/0956/X, B/1303/X/d, B/1323/X,<br />

W/0173/X, A/0290/X, A/0871/X,<br />

A/0719/X/d, B/0624/X, B/0634/X,<br />

B/0505/X, B/1186/X, B/1197/X,<br />

B/0545/X, B/1017/X, B/1261/X,<br />

B/0801/X, B/0839/X, B/0909/X,<br />

B/0918/X, B/1094/X, B/1121/X,<br />

B/1125/X, B/0585/X, B/0594/X,<br />

B/0594/X, B/0738/X, B/0754/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0760/X, B/0782/X,<br />

B/0788/X, B/1117/X, C/0721/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/0536/X, E/1257/X,<br />

E/0765/X, G/0832/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0759/X, H/0916/X, H/0615/X,<br />

H/0515/X, K/1241/X, N/0137/X,<br />

N/0139/X, N/1120/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/1304/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0717/X, Q/0157/X, Q/0856/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/0686/X, Q/0790/X,<br />

R/0549/X, R/0868/X, U/1172/X,<br />

W/0140/X, W/0641/X, W/0191/X,<br />

ambiguous in that it hedges and makes excepti<strong>on</strong> to nearly every instructi<strong>on</strong> it gives. I<br />

believe that it should make general statements about rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way and core paths,<br />

which clearly take precedence over any limitati<strong>on</strong>s but leave it at that. (B/0340/X)<br />

I'm afraid it falls far short. …….it does not distil down readily to a few reliable pithy rules<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> thumb, that people can know and understand quickly……… A functi<strong>on</strong>al code would<br />

need to be as explicit as <strong>the</strong> highway code, and this <strong>draft</strong> is certainly not that. (B/0465/X)<br />

FTA feels that <strong>the</strong>re are still too many matters left in doubt, particularly as <strong>the</strong> code<br />

should be easy to understand for town dwellers unfamiliar with <strong>the</strong> countryside.<br />

(H/0915/X)<br />

"you must not disturb wildlife or plants" "You must keep your dog <strong>on</strong> a lead in areas<br />

where ground nesting birds are breeding……" These are not unreas<strong>on</strong>able, if somewhat<br />

vague and imprecise in <strong>the</strong>ir practical implementati<strong>on</strong>. For example what, exactly, does<br />

"disturb" mean, and how are dog owners to know if an area is <strong>on</strong>e where ground nesting<br />

birds are breeding. Do SNH propose to put signs up? I presume not, so <strong>the</strong> practicality<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such advice is questi<strong>on</strong>able at best. (N/0137/X)<br />

No. It is trying to do two things and probably failing to do both. It cannot be a clear and<br />

c<strong>on</strong>cise "code" for access users and access providers and provide guidance for <strong>the</strong><br />

courts <strong>on</strong> what reas<strong>on</strong>ably c<strong>on</strong>stitutes resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour in all circumstances.<br />

(W/0708/X/d)<br />

A series <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> individuals taking access resp<strong>on</strong>sibly (and <strong>the</strong>refore acting within <strong>the</strong> code)<br />

taken cumulatively may result in damage and/or disturbance. This point requires much<br />

more attenti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> current <strong>draft</strong>. (B/0801/X)<br />

Many members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public are quite unfamiliar with how rural land is used and<br />

managed and cannot be expected to know, or understand, when and where access is<br />

appropriate in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. (B/0594/X)<br />

The <strong>draft</strong> Code assumes a level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> respect and understanding for <strong>the</strong> natural<br />

envir<strong>on</strong>ment am<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> general public, which <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten does not exist. (B/0760/X)<br />

Both angling and canoeing are recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities and <strong>the</strong> code should be written in<br />

such a way as to place <strong>the</strong>m <strong>on</strong> an equal footing. The code should make it clear that<br />

Land managers do not have powers to restrict or limit access rights, <strong>on</strong>ly Local<br />

Authorities can do this. (G/0832/X)<br />

When <strong>the</strong> Land Reform Bill was being debated in <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament in 2002 it was<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten said by members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Justice 2 Committee that issues that were "black and<br />

white" should be included in <strong>the</strong> Bill, whereas issues that were regarded as having<br />

"shades <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grey" should be dealt with in <strong>the</strong> Code. It is important that <strong>the</strong> Code does not<br />

attempt to make <strong>the</strong>se grey areas, where in <strong>on</strong>e set <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circumstances it is advisable to<br />

do <strong>on</strong>e thing, but in a different set <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circumstances it might be better to do something<br />

different, into black and white issues where you should always take <strong>the</strong> same course <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

acti<strong>on</strong>. In o<strong>the</strong>r words <strong>the</strong> Code should not be overly prescriptive. (G/0920/Y)<br />

We believe that <strong>the</strong> regulati<strong>on</strong>s and guidelines for lowland and upland areas should, in<br />

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W/0159/X, W/0855/X, W/1016/X,<br />

W/0873/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/1102/X/d, W/1119/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0614/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0221/X, W/0746/X, W/0780/X,<br />

W/1109/X, W/1110/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1112/X.<br />

some respects, be different and that <strong>the</strong>se differences are not sufficiently reflected in <strong>the</strong><br />

Draft Code. (Q/0856/X)<br />

The Act and Code do not seem to specify an age at which <strong>the</strong> access rights apply. An<br />

unsupervised group <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> children present a different set <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> issues and risks compared to<br />

adults. This is particularly true for water safety. (R/0868/X)<br />

I can see that what goes in to <strong>the</strong> Code will become as important as what is left out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it,<br />

particularly <strong>the</strong> examples given for <strong>the</strong> various secti<strong>on</strong>s. (W/0191/X)<br />

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Supplementary Comments – Is <strong>the</strong> Code written in a way that is easily understood?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

The Code is written in a<br />

way which is easily<br />

understood<br />

The Code is not easily<br />

understood<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r views <strong>on</strong> whe<strong>the</strong>r<br />

Code is easily understood<br />

A/0039/X, A/0655/X/d, A/0163/X,<br />

A/0135/X, B/0120/X, B/1261/X,<br />

B/0211/X, B/1167/X, B/0041/X,<br />

G/0043/X, G/0189/X, G/0580/X,<br />

L/0659/X, L/0125/X, P/1273/X,<br />

Q/0357/X, Q/0697/X/d, W/0007/X,<br />

W/0011/X, W/0119/X, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0675/X, W/1153/Z/d, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0811/X.<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0820/X, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0919/X, A/0927/X, A/1037/X,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0167/X, B/0326/X,<br />

B/0569/X, B/0673/X, B/0835/X,<br />

B/0842/X, B/1173/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0236/X, B/0695/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0923/X, E/0703/X, E/1113/X,<br />

G/0854/X, G/1099/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/1179/X, J/1058/X,<br />

L/0650/X, L/0865/X, M/0101/X,<br />

M/1327/X, M/0687/X, P/0316/X,<br />

P/1304/X, P/1300/X, P/0889/X,<br />

P/0890/X, P/0928/X, P/1066/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0304/X, Q/0224/X,<br />

U/0922/X, V/0398/X, W/0014/X,<br />

W/0057/X, W/0143/X, W/0619/X,<br />

W/0296/X, W/0335/X, W/0848/X,<br />

W/1189/X, W/0815/X, W/0818/X,<br />

W/0822/X, W/0221/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0217/X, W/0720/X, W/0720/X,<br />

W/0767/X, X/1067/X.<br />

A/0155/X, A/0362/X, A/0796/X/d,<br />

A/1136/X/d, B/0195/X, B/0160/X,<br />

B/1195/X, B/0677/X, B/0679/X,<br />

B/0879/X, B/1161/X, B/1175/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1096/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0704/X, B/0755/X,<br />

C/0721/X, D/1274/Y, G/1307/X,<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

The code deals with most aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this in a c<strong>on</strong>cise way making clear walkers & land<br />

managers resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities to each o<strong>the</strong>r (A/0039/X)<br />

SNH are to be c<strong>on</strong>gratulated <strong>on</strong> producing a document that attempts to cover all <strong>the</strong><br />

areas relating to <strong>the</strong> subject. The four main principles for access are set out clearly<br />

(B/1167/X)<br />

The code should clearly state in its opening paragraph that <strong>the</strong>re is 'a presumpti<strong>on</strong> in<br />

favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access' as <strong>the</strong> Act itself sets out in statute this presumpti<strong>on</strong>… The<br />

code should follow <strong>the</strong> wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act, so that potential difficulties are avoided<br />

(A/0820/X)<br />

As <strong>the</strong> Code provides guidance <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour for both land managers and<br />

<strong>the</strong> public its use would be greatly facilitated if <strong>the</strong>re were clear cross referencing<br />

between relevant secti<strong>on</strong>s and paragraphs (A/0927/X)<br />

Everything in <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> is too vague, and <strong>the</strong> word resp<strong>on</strong>sible means different<br />

things to different people (B/0236/X)<br />

In general we would like to see <strong>the</strong> Code simplified for <strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land users,<br />

managers and owners (E/0703/X)<br />

There are a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> instances <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> repetiti<strong>on</strong> and lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> logical sequence…This may<br />

reflect <strong>the</strong> process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> intense negotiati<strong>on</strong> that has taken place <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Access Forum…<br />

but it does lead to loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> clarity. It may be helpful to involve a pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>essi<strong>on</strong>al writers in fine<br />

tuning and editing <strong>the</strong> final versi<strong>on</strong> (H/1179/X)<br />

C<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> should be given for inserting an index to assist in its use as a reference<br />

document (P0890/X)<br />

The layout <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code is c<strong>on</strong>fusing, with similar informati<strong>on</strong> scattered in various places<br />

throughout. The table in secti<strong>on</strong> 5 is clearer and more user friendly ( W/0720/X)<br />

To encourage resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour guidance should be included throughout <strong>the</strong> code<br />

within each category <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> User and Land manager by identifying what is criminal behaviour<br />

and giving examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour (A/0796/X)<br />

Land manager is an ugly term. For most pers<strong>on</strong>s a manager is some<strong>on</strong>e that does no<br />

real work. (B/1096/X)<br />

The Use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> more direct language would cut down <strong>on</strong> words and make <strong>the</strong> code easier to<br />

understand….More direct language would also make <strong>the</strong> Code easier for foreign<br />

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G/1155/X, H/1196/X, H/1103/X,<br />

K/1302/X, K/1241/X, K/0722/X,<br />

L/0659/X, L/0113/X, M/1258/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0548/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/0899/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/0576/X, P/0577/X,<br />

Q/0176/X, R/1256/X, R/1278/X,<br />

R/0121/X, V/0398/X, V/0245/X,<br />

V/1285/X, W/0024/X, W/0619/X,<br />

W/0087/X, W/0088/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0168/, W/0530/X, W/1189/X,<br />

W/0554/X, W/1265/X, W/1282/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1170/X, W/0587/X,<br />

W/0124/X, W/0217/X, W/0700/X,<br />

W/0705/X, W/0766/X, W/0767/X,<br />

W/1109/X, X/0637/X, X/0638/X/d,<br />

X/0122/X.<br />

tourists to use (L/0659/X)<br />

Diagrams could be useful in illustrating some points for example, how <strong>the</strong> new access<br />

rights relate to ROW for <strong>the</strong> difficult questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to farm - yards. (P/1219/X)<br />

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Supplementary Comments – Is <strong>the</strong> Code written in an appropriate style?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

The Code is written in an<br />

appropriate style<br />

The Code is not written in<br />

an appropriate style<br />

A/0522/X, A/1283/X, A/0469/X,<br />

B/0668/X, B/0835/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1147/X, G/0806/X, G/0730/X,<br />

H/1276/X, Q/0073/X, W/0063/X,<br />

W/0056/X, W/0359/X, W/0619/X,<br />

W/1225/X, W/0597/X, X/0129/X.<br />

A/0400/X, A/0319/X, A/0205/X,<br />

A/1320/X, A/0838/X, A/0927/X,<br />

A/0126/X, A/0477/X, A/1136/X/d,<br />

B/0139/X, B/0385/X, B/0107/X,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0181/X, B/0183/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0863/X,<br />

B/1183/X, B/1190/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/1341/Z/d, B/0141/X, B/0455/X,<br />

B/1309/X, B/1281/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/0835/X, B/0884/X, B/0925/X,<br />

B/0946/X, B/1078/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0436/X, B/0461/X, B/0473/X/d,<br />

B/0695/X, B/1047/X, B/1356/,<br />

D/1065/X, E/1243/X, G/0146/X,<br />

G/0854/X, G/1192/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/0831/X, G/0917/X, G/1057/X,<br />

J/1058/X, J/1284/X, K/0444/X,<br />

L/0865/X, M/0263/X, N/1138/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0274/X, P/1304/X,<br />

P/0928/X, P/1066/X, Q/0024/X,<br />

Q/0256/X, Q/1233/X, Q/1286/X,<br />

Q/0866/X/d, Q/1061/X, U/0922/X,<br />

U/1172/X, V/0398/X, V/0245/X,<br />

V/1228/X, W/0014/X, W/0078/X,<br />

W/0078/X, W/0044/X, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0359/X, W/0110/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/1189/X, W/1198/X,<br />

W/0541/X, W/0556/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/0669/X/d, W/1032/X, W/0239/X,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/1337/X, W/0812/Y,<br />

W/0872/X, W/0907/X, W/1159/X/d,<br />

20<br />

Total Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Generally <strong>the</strong> Code is clearly written for local people exercising access rights and land<br />

managers (B/1147/X)<br />

I have to say I am most impressed. The layout and presentati<strong>on</strong> are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> highest order<br />

(A/0522/)<br />

The t<strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> much <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> code c<strong>on</strong>veys an impressi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> two groups in oppositi<strong>on</strong>,<br />

ra<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>the</strong> give and take <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> co-operati<strong>on</strong> dem<strong>on</strong>strated in <strong>the</strong> Hill Ph<strong>on</strong>es (A/0205/X)<br />

The t<strong>on</strong>e changes when you come to what Local authorities must do and becomes<br />

firmer. The t<strong>on</strong>e, throughout needs to be firm and explicit and not mealy - mou<strong>the</strong>d and<br />

s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t (B/0672/X)<br />

Only secti<strong>on</strong>s 3, 4 and 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultative <strong>draft</strong> fulfil <strong>the</strong>se statutory duties and<br />

<strong>the</strong>refore <strong>on</strong>ly secti<strong>on</strong>s 3, 4 and 5 should comprise <strong>the</strong> Code (G/1057/X)<br />

It is important that <strong>the</strong> code maintains a positive t<strong>on</strong>e in relati<strong>on</strong> to dogs . It appears<br />

overly negative in its present form. (L/1284/X)<br />

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O<strong>the</strong>r views <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> style<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

W/1001/X/d, W/0957/X, W/1071/X,<br />

W/0591/X, W/0591/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0221/X, W/0222/X, W/0235/X,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0777/X, W/1040/X,<br />

X/0099/X, X/0811/X, X/0939/X,<br />

X/1067/X, X/0122/X.<br />

A/0369/X/d, A/0397/X/d,<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0111/X, A/0163/X,<br />

A/0933/X, A/0422/X, A/0737/,<br />

A/0740/X, B/0049/X, B/0375/X,<br />

B/0648/X, B/0654/X, B/0326/X,<br />

B/1195/X, B/0443/X, B/0574/X,<br />

D/1340/X, D/1065/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/1257/X, G/1251/X, J/1058/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0527/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0491/X, P/0575/X,<br />

P/0576/X, P/0576/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0577/X, Q/0501/X,<br />

Q/1252/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, Q/0686/X, R/1278/X,<br />

W/0056/X, W/0143/X, W/0096/X,<br />

W/0173/X, W/0511/X, W/1265/X,<br />

W/1277/X, W/1052/X, W/0489/X,<br />

W/0434/X, W/0789/X, W/1135/X,<br />

W/1130/X, X/0149/X, X/0099/X.<br />

A good wordsmith is vital. Advice for users and land managers should be positive<br />

encouraging language where at all possible. The language needs to be c<strong>on</strong>sistent to all<br />

parties (D/1340/X)<br />

It is important that <strong>the</strong> language <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> document is accessible to all (D/1065/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Many recreati<strong>on</strong>al users and some land management interests did say that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code provided clear, sensible and practical guidance to help people to<br />

make informed decisi<strong>on</strong>s about everyday situati<strong>on</strong>s. However, many o<strong>the</strong>rs, particularly from land management interests, felt that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code did not<br />

achieve this.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Some resp<strong>on</strong>ses included c<strong>on</strong>cerns that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code attempted to present too much detail and <strong>the</strong>reby diminish <strong>the</strong> emphasis <strong>on</strong> comm<strong>on</strong> sense and<br />

courtesy, whilst o<strong>the</strong>rs felt that <strong>the</strong>re was over reliance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>al users’ ability to make informed decisi<strong>on</strong>s, because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear or practical<br />

guidance for some every day situati<strong>on</strong>s. There was also c<strong>on</strong>cern that <strong>the</strong> cumulative impacts arising from recreati<strong>on</strong>al use were not adequately c<strong>on</strong>sidered<br />

in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code.<br />

Comments were also collated <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> way in which <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code had been written and its general style in presenting <strong>the</strong> guidance. There was a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

views <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se issues, although <strong>on</strong> balance <strong>the</strong> majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments were seeking changes to <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

It is clear that <strong>the</strong>re are mixed and varied expectati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. Whilst <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has changed to reflect many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> points raised, SNH will<br />

also report to <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> wider issues raised, for example <strong>the</strong> need for fur<strong>the</strong>r guidance <strong>on</strong> certain matters and a link with wider<br />

educati<strong>on</strong> initiatives.<br />

SNH has resisted making dramatic changes to <strong>the</strong> structure <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code or to <strong>the</strong> key resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities, because it must fulfil its statutory role and<br />

key interests have been closely involved, particularly through <strong>the</strong> nati<strong>on</strong>al Access Forum, in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong>ing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. However, SNH recognises and<br />

accepts <strong>the</strong> views <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents in that <strong>the</strong> additi<strong>on</strong>al educati<strong>on</strong>al products that will flow from <strong>the</strong> Approved Code must be tailored to <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

target audience, so that resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities are clearly set out and can <strong>the</strong>n be easily understood.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> G4 - Is <strong>the</strong> Code written in a way which reflects <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>? Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

G4a. Yes<br />

A/0009/X, A/0369/X/d, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0958/X, A/1084/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0719/X/d, B/0118/X, B/0519/X,<br />

B/0668/X, B/0673/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0794/X, C/0070/X,<br />

D/1274/Y, E/0616/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0146/X, G/0960/X, G/1098/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/1179/X, H/0460/X,<br />

K/0722/X, L/0439/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/0804/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0717/X, P /0575/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/1312/X, Q/1232/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/1178/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0686/X, Q/0707/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0074/X, W/0087/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/1016/X, W/1204/X,<br />

W/0112/X, W/0833/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0423/X, W/0056/X,<br />

X/0727/X.<br />

G4b. No<br />

A/0319/X, A/0740/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0275/X, B/0288/X/d, B/1195/X,<br />

B/1199/X, B/0754/X, B/1150/X/d,<br />

E/1079/X, E/1097/X, H/0534/X,<br />

H/0515/X, J/1255/X, J/1284/X,<br />

L/0747/X, M/0463/X, P/0274/X,<br />

P/0548/X, W/0173/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/0990/X/d, W/0587/X, W/0610/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0780/X.<br />

I am <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> opini<strong>on</strong> that in general terms <strong>the</strong> Act adequately covers access rights as<br />

reflected in Parliamentary debate and <strong>the</strong> proposed Access Code reflects this.<br />

(A/0369/X/d)<br />

Now that statutory rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access have been enshrined in law it is essential<br />

that <strong>the</strong> Code does not dilute <strong>the</strong>se rights. The <strong>draft</strong> in general does reflect <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>. (K/0722/X)<br />

We accept that <strong>the</strong> Code in general reflects <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>, whatever our<br />

reservati<strong>on</strong>s about Part 1 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act. (H/1179/X)<br />

The key principles within <strong>the</strong> code broadly reflect <strong>the</strong> overall spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act and <strong>the</strong><br />

general message <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access is to be welcomed. (P/0575/X)<br />

The Forum feels it is a good document, which reflects <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> and<br />

provides useful guidance. (P/1237/X)<br />

Yes. The Code is in accordance with <strong>the</strong> original c<strong>on</strong>cept propounded by <strong>the</strong> Access<br />

Forum. (W/0021/X)<br />

You state that <strong>the</strong> code must accurately reflect <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland)<br />

Act 2003 but it must also reflect <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act. There are a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

incidences where it does not do so. For example, Secti<strong>on</strong> 2.13 states that commercial<br />

activities carried <strong>on</strong> in pursuance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights must be closely linked to open air<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong> or educati<strong>on</strong> undertaken by <strong>the</strong> general public; <strong>the</strong> Act does not say that and<br />

I do not believe that access rights are so limited (although I believe that it is outwith <strong>the</strong><br />

original objectives <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> introducing statutory access rights thay <strong>the</strong>y should cover<br />

commercial activies at all). Later <strong>on</strong>, paragraph 3.4.3 says that if an event is being<br />

organised <strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers must be obtained; whilst I agree that that<br />

ought to be <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong>, I do not believe that <strong>the</strong> statute justifies that statement unless<br />

facilities over and above <strong>the</strong> land are required. (B/1150/X/d)<br />

Page 30 Q.6. Para 2.15, The proposed code is too wide ranging and, I believe, goes<br />

fur<strong>the</strong>r than most people would want or would have expected. (H/0534/X)<br />

The Code is not written in <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>, as it seems to acknowledge <strong>the</strong><br />

rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker, whilst not recognising sufficiently <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access<br />

provider. (H/0515/X)<br />

...The Code also appears willing to p<strong>on</strong>tificate <strong>on</strong> such matters without taking into<br />

account <strong>the</strong> fact that <strong>the</strong>re is no legislative definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes". By<br />

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G4c. No <strong>the</strong> Code goes<br />

bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> and provides<br />

<strong>the</strong> public with too much<br />

freedom to access <strong>the</strong><br />

outdoors<br />

A/1333/X, B/0186/X, B/0845/X,<br />

B/0670/X, B/0141/X, B/0986/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/0226/X, B/0236/X,<br />

B/1033/X, B/1133/X, F/1134/X,<br />

H/0916/X, J/1203/X, P/0640/X,<br />

Q/0866/X/d, Q/0415/X,<br />

W/1052/X/d, W/0810/X,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/1119/X.<br />

creating its own definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "open air recreati<strong>on</strong>" and going <strong>on</strong> from <strong>the</strong>re it seems to be<br />

usurping <strong>the</strong> normal functi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament. Since <strong>the</strong> Land Reform Act<br />

legalises "recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes" but not "open air recreati<strong>on</strong>" up<strong>on</strong> which <strong>the</strong> SOAC is<br />

based, it is not inc<strong>on</strong>ceivable that <strong>the</strong> whole lot might be dismissed as illegal!<br />

....................... SNH has sought our views in order to produce a Code which accurately<br />

reflects "<strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act". SANA would c<strong>on</strong>sider it more appropriate if SNH applies its<br />

efforts to produce a Code which accurately relfects <strong>the</strong> letter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform<br />

(Scotland) Act 2003. It might have more credibility, be less likely to cause c<strong>on</strong>flict, be<br />

more widely acceptable and indeed closer to what <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament actually<br />

tasked SNH to do. (J/1255/X)<br />

The Act makes specific menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled people <strong>on</strong> more than <strong>on</strong>e<br />

occasi<strong>on</strong>. This can be taken as a commitment <strong>on</strong> behalf <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament to<br />

ensure <strong>the</strong> inclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled people. The Code cannot be said to have picked up nor<br />

developed this <strong>the</strong>me. (M/0463/X)<br />

No, <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> I think is <strong>the</strong> simple c<strong>on</strong>cept that resp<strong>on</strong>sible members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> public can take resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. The code complicates it. (W/0708/X/d)<br />

I am very uneasy about <strong>the</strong> principle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> almost unfettered access embodied in <strong>the</strong> Code -<br />

I think <strong>the</strong> l<strong>on</strong>gstanding, comm<strong>on</strong> sense traditi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> mutual tolerance between<br />

landowners and <strong>the</strong> public will be replaced by c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong>. (A/1333/X)<br />

I do not wish walkers to have more rights than I do myself. I have a job to do and it is<br />

not my sport but my income. (B/0226/X)<br />

If, as it seems to me, <strong>the</strong> code is intended to c<strong>on</strong>vey <strong>the</strong> message that all landowners<br />

are over-privileged aristocrats who use <strong>the</strong>ir land as a shield to isolate <strong>the</strong>mselves from<br />

<strong>the</strong> comm<strong>on</strong> man, and that all access takers are good and h<strong>on</strong>est people whose <strong>on</strong>ly<br />

wish is to climb a hill in freedom, <strong>the</strong>n yes, <strong>the</strong> code is written in such a way! (W/1119/X)<br />

The Act expressly limits access rights <strong>on</strong> golf courses to crossing from <strong>on</strong>e place to<br />

ano<strong>the</strong>r. This advice/commentary c<strong>on</strong>tradicts <strong>the</strong> Act and in doing so <strong>the</strong> Code is<br />

overstepping its powers and risks legitimising behaviour that is prevented by <strong>the</strong> primary<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>. We str<strong>on</strong>gly object to this wording remaining in <strong>the</strong> Access Code. (J/1203/X)<br />

As access to <strong>the</strong> outdoors is to be less restrictive it is felt that <strong>the</strong>re is a requirement for<br />

those taking access to express <strong>the</strong>ir commitment to <strong>the</strong> code and to make certain<br />

informati<strong>on</strong> more readily available to Land Mangers in emergency situati<strong>on</strong>s… It is<br />

suggested that an "access card" scheme is introduced where by parties taking access<br />

will carry a card which will commit to and disclose <strong>the</strong> following informati<strong>on</strong>; ....'The<br />

holder <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this card has read, understood and will adhere to <strong>the</strong> access resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities as<br />

detailed in <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code'.... Name and Address; Next <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Kin; Blood<br />

Group; Insurance details.... It is envisaged that <strong>the</strong> "access card" would be issued <strong>on</strong>ce<br />

<strong>on</strong>ly for a period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> life. On issue a small cost would be charged to cover administrati<strong>on</strong><br />

costs, this administrati<strong>on</strong> cost could be artificially inflated to include a d<strong>on</strong>ati<strong>on</strong><br />

comp<strong>on</strong>ent towards important access projects. (P/0640/X)<br />

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G4d. No – <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

doesn't go far enough and<br />

does not provide greater<br />

freedom to enjoy <strong>the</strong><br />

outdoors<br />

G4e. O<strong>the</strong>r<br />

A/0820/X, A/0111/X, A/1326/X,<br />

A/0927/X, A/0997/X, A/0958/X,<br />

A/0968/X, A/1081/X, A/0219/X,<br />

A/0471/X/d, A/0471/X/d,<br />

A/1136/X/d, A/1070/X/d, B/0738/X,<br />

D/1340/X, G/0831/X, G/0146/X,<br />

G/0164/X, G/0854/X, G/0197/X,<br />

G/1226/X, G/1254/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0580/X, K/1302/X, K/0714/X,<br />

K/0722/X, K/1241/X, L/1026/X,<br />

L/0791/X, P/0575/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1247/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/0890/X, Q/0930/X, Q/0415/X,<br />

Q/1308/X, R/1278/X, W/0018/X,<br />

W/0078/X, W/0498/, W/1029/X,<br />

W/0239/, W/0246/X, W/1310/X/d,<br />

W/0944/X, W/0610/X, W/0610/X,<br />

W/0429/X, W/0430/X/d, W/0781/X,<br />

W/0792/X, W/0532/X, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1130/X, X/0811/X, X/0937/X,<br />

X/0727/X.<br />

A/0162/X, A/1073/X, A/0477/X,<br />

A/0740/X, A/0743/X, B/0054/X,<br />

B/0620/Y, B/0624/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0569/X, B/0956/X,<br />

B/0891/X, B/1152/X, B/1062/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/0594/X, B/0465/X,<br />

B/0731/X, B/0772/X, C/0721/X,<br />

E/0984/X, E/1079/X, H/0674/X,<br />

J/1255/X, L/0791/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0643/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/0548/X, P/0928/X, P/0889/X,<br />

Q/0251/X, R/1278/X, W/0102/X,<br />

W/1071/X, W/0573/X, W/0579/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0587/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0489/X, W/0751/Y, W/0775/X,<br />

W/0781/X, W/1130/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0896/X.<br />

"The CODE" provides guidance, not rules and regulati<strong>on</strong>s, <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by<br />

<strong>the</strong> public and land managers. Therefore, <strong>the</strong> word "must" is <strong>on</strong>ly appropriate where<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is an obligati<strong>on</strong> under <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 or under o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

statutory provisi<strong>on</strong>s (to which a reference should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in <strong>the</strong> text); where <strong>the</strong>re is no<br />

such legal obligati<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> appropriate word is "should". (A/0924/X)<br />

Scotland has a l<strong>on</strong>g-standing traditi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> freedom to roam. The Act and <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

recognise this but, where statutory access rights are excluded from <strong>the</strong> Act, <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

should emphasise that it is still possible to take resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (A/0471/X/d)<br />

The Act was supposed to facilitate assured access; <strong>the</strong> current guidance in <strong>the</strong> SOAC<br />

leaves us guessing. In fact <strong>the</strong> guidance is in <strong>the</strong> style <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> old culture - find <strong>the</strong><br />

manager and ask permissi<strong>on</strong>. That is quite unsatisfactory. (P/0890/X)<br />

While para. 1.8 does make it clear that <strong>the</strong> term "outdoors" is inclusive <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> open spaces in<br />

towns and cities <strong>the</strong> emphasis throughout <strong>the</strong> code, perhaps understandably, is <strong>on</strong><br />

rural/countryside issues. Given <strong>the</strong> Executive's (and indeed SNH's) recent declarati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dealing with envir<strong>on</strong>mental injustices in deprived urban areas<br />

experiencing degradati<strong>on</strong> is <strong>the</strong>re an opportunity to raise <strong>the</strong> pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ile <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> relevance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Code to urban Greenspace issues perhaps through use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples or<br />

photographs? (W/0018/X)<br />

It is hoped that it will in no way undermine <strong>the</strong> existing rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public access by<br />

formalising <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong>. (W/1029/X)<br />

It does not encourage me to take pride in and care for <strong>the</strong> land. Indeed it makes me feel<br />

dismissed and vulnerable. It is as though I no l<strong>on</strong>ger have <strong>the</strong> right to "own" <strong>the</strong> land and<br />

that my family's efforts to c<strong>on</strong>serve and manage it over fifty years are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> little merit or<br />

value. If this is <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>n yes it does reflect it. (B/0620/Y)<br />

As worded so far, <strong>the</strong> Access Code is being imposed. If <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive does<br />

pursue <strong>the</strong> present course with few amendments, meaning that Right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Access is<br />

imposed, <strong>the</strong> following proposal is submitted for serious c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong>. Collectively and<br />

Individually, <strong>the</strong> Access Fora and <strong>the</strong>ir Members should carry <strong>the</strong> burden <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cost <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all<br />

related matters including Risk Assessment and Insurance Cover for any and all<br />

members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Public. This would certainly focus minds <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> reality <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> proposed<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>. This is a serious point which SNH must c<strong>on</strong>sider. (B/0891/X)<br />

The stated aim is to produce a "reference point" <strong>on</strong> those rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. In<br />

practice, however, in many instances in secti<strong>on</strong>s 3 and 5 it appears to stray into <strong>the</strong> area<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> determining and interpreting what is resp<strong>on</strong>sible acti<strong>on</strong> and what is not. This is, in<br />

effect a ruling <strong>on</strong> what is legal and what is not and this is surely a functi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Courts<br />

finalising instances <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disagreement originating in <strong>the</strong> local Access Forums and going<br />

through local authority procedure ra<strong>the</strong>r than by any reference to SNH. (J/1255/X)<br />

Sportscotland is very c<strong>on</strong>cerned by <strong>the</strong> amount and variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>tent that is included in<br />

<strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document under <strong>the</strong> collective term <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. Secti<strong>on</strong> 10 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act<br />

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<str<strong>on</strong>g>Analysis</str<strong>on</strong>g> –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

states that <strong>the</strong> Code should set out guidance <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access; <strong>the</strong> Code, as it is<br />

<strong>draft</strong>ed, does this but also includes a substantial range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> supplementary guidance,<br />

explanati<strong>on</strong> and informati<strong>on</strong> which does not strictly set out guidance <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

access. This would include for example, <strong>the</strong> summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights, <strong>the</strong> appendices<br />

and <strong>the</strong> practical guide. Sportscotland recognises <strong>the</strong> value <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this supplementary<br />

informati<strong>on</strong> and c<strong>on</strong>siders that it should appear in <strong>the</strong> same document as <strong>the</strong> Code but<br />

Sportscotland does not c<strong>on</strong>sider that it should form part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code itself. (R/1278/X)<br />

"Places where you have to pay to go in"! This seems perfectly fair but are<br />

arrangements in place to deal with new areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land post <strong>the</strong> Act when <strong>the</strong> owner<br />

decides to make a charge. It appears from <strong>the</strong> Act, Secti<strong>on</strong> 6(1)(f) that <strong>the</strong> decisi<strong>on</strong> to<br />

take land out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access in this way rests solely with <strong>the</strong> owner, provided that <strong>the</strong> public<br />

are admitted <strong>on</strong> payment for not fewer than 90 days. See also 7(9). Some clarificati<strong>on</strong><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this issue would be helpful. (W/0781/X)<br />

There was both support and disagreement in resp<strong>on</strong>ses as to whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code had been written in a way which reflected <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

These comments came from a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dent types.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Some resp<strong>on</strong>dents, particularly from recreati<strong>on</strong> groups, felt that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code did not follow <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> closely enough and had introduced potential<br />

restricti<strong>on</strong>s, whilst o<strong>the</strong>rs, particularly those with land management interests, were looking to <strong>the</strong> Code to adjust perceived shortcomings <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

itself.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The Proposed Code is now more accurate in relati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> and in its use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> terms “must” – an acti<strong>on</strong> that is backed up by existing legal<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences or requirements <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> law – and “should” – guidance <strong>on</strong> what is resp<strong>on</strong>sible.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 1 - We would welcome any ideas <strong>on</strong> how we can balance <strong>the</strong> need to cover all issues<br />

in sufficient detail with <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

1a. <strong>the</strong> Code is too l<strong>on</strong>g<br />

and covers too much<br />

detail<br />

1b. <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Code is about right<br />

A/0009/X, A/0786/X/d, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0626/X, B/0633/X, B/0638/X/d,<br />

B/0317/X, B/0337/X, B/0863/X,<br />

B/0545/X, B/0244/X, B/0835/X/ ,<br />

B/0884/X, B/1126/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0755/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/1047/X, G/0189/X, G/1229/X,<br />

J/1028/X, L/0527/X, L/0513/X,<br />

M/0687/X, M/0948/X, N/0879/X,<br />

P/1304/X, P/1237/X, P/0890/X,<br />

P/0575/X, Q/0344/X, Q/0264/X,<br />

R/1278/X, W/0853/X, W/1342/X,<br />

W/0246/X, W/0979/X, W/1223/X,<br />

W/0870/X, W/0898/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1170/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0489/X, W/0708/X/d, W/0758/X,<br />

W/0766/X, W/0767/X, W/0778/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/1053/X, X/0664/X.<br />

A/0437/X, A/0477/X, A/1037/X,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0347/X, B/1022/X,<br />

B/0461/X, B/0470/X, D/0022/X,<br />

D/0521/X, G/1330/X/d, G/1214/X,<br />

G/0806/X, H/0310/X, H/0220/X,<br />

L/0185/X, P/0384/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0287/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/1273/X, Q/0501/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

U/0922/X, W/1189/X, W/1007/X,<br />

W/1032/X, W/0255/X, W/1329/X,<br />

W/0972/X, W/0423/X, X/1174/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d.<br />

Total Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

The introductory sessi<strong>on</strong>s are ra<strong>the</strong>r excessive: <strong>on</strong>e reaches nothing substantial till page<br />

22. Perhaps some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> introductory material can go in an annex (A/0009/X)<br />

The C<strong>on</strong>sulti<strong>on</strong> document itself appears very wordy, repetitive and unwieldy. We hope<br />

that a future code will be simpler (B/0626/X)<br />

There is far too much <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it. It is complicated and in parts c<strong>on</strong>tradictory (J/1028/X)<br />

Essentially, whilst I can't disagree with <strong>the</strong> mass <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> detail in <strong>the</strong> report I feel that it is in<br />

danger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> getting bogged down with <strong>the</strong>se details and losing sight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> essential points<br />

(W/0870/X)<br />

The summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my critique would be: Simplify!…..The Access Code should simply state<br />

<strong>the</strong> principles and not try and cover all situati<strong>on</strong>s - very few people will read <strong>the</strong> code as<br />

it stands (W/0780/X)<br />

I believe <strong>the</strong> detail is necessary, given <strong>the</strong> lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> detail in <strong>the</strong> actual legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

(A/1037/X)<br />

it is clearly essential to establish a base document that is comprehensive. (B/0470/X)<br />

It is important that a document is available, particularly for land managers and access<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers, that gives detailed guidance <strong>on</strong> as many situati<strong>on</strong>s as possible. The Code as<br />

proposed would not appear to be excessively lengthy given <strong>the</strong> many facets covered.<br />

(G/1214/X)<br />

Whilst <strong>the</strong> code is not a legal document it is likely to be used as material evidence<br />

should disputes arise and have to be taken to court. This means that <strong>the</strong> document is, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

necessity, fairly detailed (P/0646/X)<br />

218<br />

1c. <strong>the</strong> Code is too short<br />

and needs to provide<br />

more detail<br />

B/0385/X/d, B/0167/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0834/X, B/0599/X/d, E/0924/X,<br />

G/1291/X, P/0576/X, W/0182/X.<br />

The Code must set out guidance for <strong>the</strong> general public in far more detail than given at<br />

present (B/0834/X)<br />

In that <strong>the</strong> Act looks so heavily to <strong>the</strong> Code to clarify and define measures within <strong>the</strong> Act<br />

it is imperative that <strong>the</strong> Code covers everything in detail sufficient to leave no ambiguity.<br />

In this c<strong>on</strong>text <strong>the</strong> Code is part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> law and as such it must cover everything in<br />

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sufficient detail and not kowtow to <strong>the</strong> desire for brevity. At present <strong>the</strong> Code fails in<br />

clarity and this will lead to much unnecessary debate and perhaps litigati<strong>on</strong>. (B/0167/X)<br />

We feel that to be effective as a guide and reference document, <strong>the</strong> Code in its entirety<br />

must be a lengthy document and in its present format does not cover all <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> key<br />

issues in sufficient detail. (P/0576/X)<br />

1d. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0362/X, A/0098/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0319/X, A/0825/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/1084/X, A/0422/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0719/X/d, A/0740/X, A/0743/X,<br />

A/0796/X/d, B/0054/X, B/0648/X,<br />

B/0654/X, B/0525/X/d, B/1183/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0668/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0446/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1152/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0409/X, B/0436/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/1267/X/d, B/0752/X,<br />

B/0772/X, D/1340/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0984/X, E/0590/X, E/0703/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1226/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/1098/X, G/0580/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/0759/X, G/1057/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/0807/X, H/0808/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0941/X, K/0444/X, K/1302/X,<br />

K/1241/X, K/0714/X, L/0659/X,<br />

L/0410/X, L/0439/X, M/0463/X,<br />

N/0694/X, P/0640/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0548/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1239/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/0804/X, P/0878/X,<br />

P/0869/X, P/0899/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/1066/X, P/0577/X, P/0491/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/0889/X, Q/0157/X,<br />

Q/0206/X, Q/0445/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/0697/X/d, Q/0707/X,<br />

R/1221/X, R/1256/X, R/1278/X,<br />

R/0763/X, W/0143/X, W/0529/X,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/1202/X, W/0986/X,<br />

W/1235/X, W/1151/X, W/1001/X/d,<br />

I am sorry to say that I cannot think <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> many ways <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> shortening <strong>the</strong> main versi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

code and would be worried that because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> its length very few people will refer to it<br />

(B/1093/X)<br />

More important than <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is <strong>the</strong> need for it to cover all key issues in an<br />

unequivocal and unambiguous way. The less woolly and more specific <strong>the</strong> wording<br />

within <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act, <strong>the</strong> less need for recourse to lawyers and for determinati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

by Sheriffs. (B/0525/X/d)<br />

SORN c<strong>on</strong>siders that <strong>the</strong> code should be based <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance in chapters 3 and 4 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document. A revised code document should be produced which<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tains <strong>the</strong> Code and <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> supplementary informati<strong>on</strong> that appears in <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document....... <strong>on</strong>ly <strong>the</strong> code secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> revised document requires<br />

Parliamentary approval (G/1251/X)<br />

The main Code must include as much detail as possible to act as <strong>the</strong> reference<br />

document. (P/1219/X)<br />

The examples give in Secti<strong>on</strong> 3 and 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code are not exhaustive, but <strong>the</strong>re is a<br />

risk that <strong>the</strong>y will assume great importance if presented in a court should a dispute arise<br />

(W/0944/X)<br />

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W/0944/X, W/0579/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0217/X, W/0403/X,<br />

W/0489/X, W/0770/X/d, W/0780/X,<br />

W/0789/X, W/0800/X, W/1109/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1130/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/0937/X, X/1067/X, X/1092/X,<br />

X/0784/X.<br />

Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> criticised <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. Some also advocated that Parliamentary approval be sought for <strong>on</strong>ly Secti<strong>on</strong>s 3, 4 and 5. A<br />

smaller number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> sought a l<strong>on</strong>ger Code or felt that <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was about right.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

There is a general tensi<strong>on</strong> between <strong>the</strong> comm<strong>on</strong> view that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code is too l<strong>on</strong>g and <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>ses <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to o<strong>the</strong>r issues that sought more explanati<strong>on</strong><br />

or detail in order that <strong>the</strong> Code was an appropriate reference point in guiding resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

SNH has c<strong>on</strong>cluded that <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code should provide a detailed reference point and, as such, cannot be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> short. To make <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code<br />

more readable and accessible, “at-a-glance” summaries and “key points to remember” have been included, al<strong>on</strong>g with greater use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> foot notes and cross<br />

referencing. However, and despite development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 to cover more every-day situati<strong>on</strong>s that may be encountered, it is recognised that <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code cannot cover all eventualities. In this respect, <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code reflects <strong>the</strong> complexity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> detailed resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> and that a comprehensive access educati<strong>on</strong> programme, including shorter promoti<strong>on</strong>al material, is being developed to support implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> and can be used to provide an additi<strong>on</strong>al layer <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> advisory detail.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 2 - We would welcome any ideas <strong>on</strong> what sort <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> short summary code you would find<br />

useful and what its c<strong>on</strong>tent should be.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

2a. short versi<strong>on</strong> aimed<br />

at users<br />

A/0009/X, A/0098/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/1195/X, B/0565/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/1295/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

E/0616/X, E/0703/X, G/0082/X,<br />

H/1182/X, H/1179/X, H/0615/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0515/X, P/1304/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/1300/X, P/0717/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

V/0398/X, V/1285/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0057/X, W/0348/X/d, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0268/, W/0255/X,<br />

W/1265/X, X/1298/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Short summaries should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available in leaflet or booklet format for hillwalkers,<br />

cyclists, horse riders, dog owners, etc. Land Managers should be issued with <strong>the</strong> full<br />

Code. (A/0098/X)<br />

Short codes for individual recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities would make <strong>the</strong> code more practical and<br />

should be produced in c<strong>on</strong>juncti<strong>on</strong> with this comprehensive versi<strong>on</strong>. (B/1295/X)<br />

Recreati<strong>on</strong>al users will tend to be <strong>on</strong>ly interested in those secti<strong>on</strong>s that apply to <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

particular activity. A <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> two page summary could <strong>on</strong>ly set out general principles.<br />

(H/0460/X)<br />

We c<strong>on</strong>sider than an A6 booklet / laminated card, targeting individual user groups would<br />

be ideal, with, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> course, directi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> full code be be held in Libraries and o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

establishments. (Q/0697/X/d)<br />

402<br />

2b. short versi<strong>on</strong> aimed<br />

at land managers<br />

2c. short versi<strong>on</strong> aimed at<br />

both users and land<br />

managers<br />

2d. short versi<strong>on</strong> using<br />

<strong>the</strong> table in Secti<strong>on</strong> 5<br />

B/0120/X, H/1276/X, W/0268/.<br />

A/0039/X, A/0362/X, A/0126/X,<br />

A/0133/X, A/0469/X, A/0477/X,<br />

A/0487/X, B/0300/X/d, B/1181/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/0211/X, B/1271/X,<br />

B/0470/X, B/0755/X, C/0721/X,<br />

E/0086/X, F/1134/X, G/1291/X,<br />

L/0113/X, N/0694/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/1272/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/1296/X, P/0717/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0100//d, W/0295/X,<br />

W/1277/X, W/1149/X, W/1130/X.<br />

A/0097/X, A/0500/Y/d, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0133/X, A/0743/X, B/0041/X,<br />

B/0670/X, B/1152/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/1114/X/d, G/1098/X, H/0808/X,<br />

L/1026/X, N/1138/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0577/X, Q/0651/X, Q/0499/X,<br />

We see a need for more detailed guidance to be available to land managers. Indeed it<br />

might be better to develop separate summaries for land managers and those taking<br />

access. This would allow more detailed guidance to be given and might combine <strong>the</strong><br />

appropriate parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> "at a glance" summaries and <strong>the</strong> table in Secti<strong>on</strong> 5. (H/1276/X)<br />

A c<strong>on</strong>cise summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> main resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public and land managers,<br />

toge<strong>the</strong>r with a briefing <strong>on</strong> where to go and what to do in <strong>the</strong> event <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a dispute. The<br />

wording should reflect <strong>the</strong> principle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>sensus - ie courtesy, c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> and<br />

comm<strong>on</strong>-sense. (A/0469/X)<br />

most people will read <strong>the</strong> Short Code, and I suggest that when this goes through<br />

Parliament <strong>the</strong> Short Code could be incorporated into <strong>the</strong> main Code as its prefacing<br />

pages. (A/0477/X)<br />

A summary should cover <strong>the</strong> main rights and res<strong>on</strong>sibilities giving refernces to <strong>the</strong> full<br />

code where fur<strong>the</strong>r explanati<strong>on</strong> is needed. (B/0672/X)<br />

The code should be produced in a c<strong>on</strong>cise manner in booklet form so that it is easily<br />

carried in pocket or bag. Also it would be useful if it was produced in a waterpro<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> form.<br />

(B/1181/X)<br />

There will always be a need for a simple generic code similar to <strong>the</strong> country code that is<br />

relevant to everybody. (P/0643/X)<br />

SECTION 5: …..The length and lay-out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this secti<strong>on</strong> seem about right for a c<strong>on</strong>cise<br />

summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. (A/0133/X)<br />

I think that any summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code should be easy to read, and c<strong>on</strong>cern itself more<br />

with <strong>the</strong> practical aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities and access so that people are more likely to<br />

read and apply it ra<strong>the</strong>r than getting involved in <strong>the</strong> principles <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code. The table<br />

layout and c<strong>on</strong>tent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 would provide an ideal means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> doing this. (B/0670/X)<br />

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2e. summary versi<strong>on</strong> is<br />

needed<br />

Q/0686/X, R/1256/X, W/0391/X,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1130/X.<br />

A/0111/X, A/0442/X, A/0821/X/d,<br />

A/0958/X, A/1070/X/d, A/1084/X,<br />

A/0422/X, B/0167/X, B/1190/X,<br />

B/0462/X, B/0443/X, B/1005/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0835/X, B/0875/X,<br />

B/1173/X, B/1096/X, B/1126/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0599/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0772/X, B/0783/X,<br />

D/0093/X, E/0984/X, E/1246/Y,<br />

E/0924/X, E/0590/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/1214/X, G/1229/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0960/X, G/0973/X, G/0759/X,<br />

G/0795/X, G/1057/X, H/0310/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/0988/X, H/0941/X,<br />

H/0615/X, K/0444/X, K/1241/X,<br />

K/0722/X, L/0410/X, L/0439/X,<br />

L/0747/X, L/0791/X, M/0101/X,<br />

M/1154/X, N/0773/X, P/0274/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/1218/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/1239/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0804/X, P/0878/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0492/X, Q/0024/X, Q/0357/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0445/X, Q/1232/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, Q/0932/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0415/X, R/1221/X, R/0868/X,<br />

R/0763/X, V/0245/X, V/0975/X,<br />

W/0057/X, W/0119/X, W/0498/,<br />

W/0529/X, W/0279/X, W/0328/X,<br />

W/1007/X, W/1342/X, W/0201/X,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/1202/X, W/1217/X,<br />

W/1282/X, W/1052/X/d, W/0986/X,<br />

W/1170/X, W/0972/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1123/X, W/0579/X, W/0587/X,<br />

W/0221/X, W/0429/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0770/X/d,<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 gives good clear at a glance advice and could maybe be produced as a stand<br />

al<strong>on</strong>e leaflet <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to <strong>the</strong> public for general use? (G/1098/X)<br />

The most useful and informative part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> document is Secti<strong>on</strong> 5, which could form <strong>the</strong><br />

basis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a shortened widely publicly available leaflet. (L/1026/X)<br />

It would be useful to have a sheet outlining:- The purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. The guiding<br />

principles. A brief overview <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights. How to obtain a full copy. Short summary<br />

codes for particular activities would also be helpful. (A/0958/X)<br />

A Shorter Code - This will be a matter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some urgency, and <strong>the</strong>refore it is vital that <strong>the</strong><br />

main Code is clear, robust and unambiguous. (B/0574/X)<br />

Short codes should be available for access users and land managers for certain<br />

situati<strong>on</strong>s. Example summary codes:- Access to moorland/hills. Access to woodland.<br />

Access to enclosed land. Access to rivers. Access to lochs. The summary codes should<br />

be prepared in tandem with and published at <strong>the</strong> same time as <strong>the</strong> Code. (B/1240/X)<br />

Ultimately, shorter summary versi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code would be extremely useful for both<br />

users and land managers. Any short Code needs to be c<strong>on</strong>sistent with <strong>the</strong> full versi<strong>on</strong><br />

and some system to check this would be helpful. ……………. An easy reference to <strong>the</strong><br />

most comm<strong>on</strong> do's and d<strong>on</strong>'ts would be useful. We would favour bringing toge<strong>the</strong>r an<br />

edited versi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> "at a glance" summaries. We would advocate <strong>the</strong> producati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> at<br />

least two short codes, <strong>on</strong>e for land managers and <strong>on</strong>e for users. O<strong>the</strong>r summary codes<br />

could be produced for particular user groups: horse riders, canoeists etc. Having a<br />

system for approving and 'kite-marking' existing guides, would be useful & help avoid<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong>. (K/0444/X)<br />

This shortened versi<strong>on</strong> could form an appendix to <strong>the</strong> Code, and by also receiving<br />

parliamentary approval would have authoritative status. (G/1057/X)<br />

Guidance informati<strong>on</strong> for specific interest groups should be in a 'pocket size' format with<br />

new editi<strong>on</strong>s being issued when changes take place. (X/1212/X)<br />

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W/0789/X, W/0800/X, W/1040/X,<br />

W/1111/X, X/1212/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/0989/X, X/0937/X,<br />

X/0939/X, X/0421/X, X/0727/X,<br />

W/1359/X .<br />

2f. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0077/X, A/0098/X, A/0162/X,<br />

A/0163/X, A/0518/X, A/0320/X/d,<br />

A/0846/X, A/1194/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0825/X, A/0838/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/0719/X/d, A/0740/X, A/0762/X,<br />

A/0796/X/d, A/1037/X, B/0054/X,<br />

B/0058/X, B/0142/X, B/0385/X/d,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/1195/X, B/0538/X, B/0563/X,<br />

B/0668/X, B/0254/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/1281/X, B/1292/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/0879/X, B/1093/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0599/X/d, B/0613/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0404/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/0711/X, B/0738/X, B/0738/X,<br />

B/0755/X, B/0794/X, C/0070/X,<br />

C/0721/X, D/0978/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/1257/X, G/0379/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0164/X, G/1099/X, G/1330/X/d,<br />

G/1226/X, G/1251/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0917/X, G/1155/X,<br />

G/1098/X, G/0580/X, G/0584/X,<br />

G/0698/X, G/0725/X, G/0759/X,<br />

H/0674/X, H/0807/X, H/0615/X,<br />

H/0220/X, J/1028/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1255/X, K/1302/X, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0647/X, L/0659/X, L/0527/X,<br />

L/1241/X, L/0865/X, M/0463/X,<br />

N/0137/X, P/0384/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0491/X, P/0287/X,<br />

P/0316/X, P/0548/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0869/X, P/0889/X, P/0890/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0928/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/0577/X, P/0577/X,<br />

A summary could well be based <strong>on</strong> p28 "Exercising Access Rights Resp<strong>on</strong>sibly" and p39<br />

"Managing Land and Water Resp<strong>on</strong>sibly for Access". Dogs, litter and malicious damage<br />

are some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> most important worries to land managers and this must be stressed.<br />

(A/1194/X)<br />

An 'easy read' versi<strong>on</strong>, making it absolutely clear that it is subservient to <strong>the</strong> principal<br />

Code document, should be prepared for wide distributi<strong>on</strong>. (B/0167/X)<br />

sportscotland c<strong>on</strong>siders that <strong>the</strong>re are problems in producing a "short summary" <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Code….. sportscotland does not c<strong>on</strong>sider it possible to summarise a reference<br />

document. sportscotland c<strong>on</strong>siders that it is important for <strong>the</strong> Code to be short and<br />

c<strong>on</strong>cise. .......... Such a Code should not require a summary and this should ensure that<br />

<strong>the</strong>re are not two reference points <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access, <strong>the</strong> Code and a summary<br />

Code.............. sportscotland c<strong>on</strong>siders that if a summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is used to interpret<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour, without reference to <strong>the</strong> full code document, <strong>the</strong>re will be variable<br />

and misinterpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access leading to c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> and err<strong>on</strong>eous<br />

understanding. ..... sportscotland could, <strong>the</strong>refore, support <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> summaries <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Code for informati<strong>on</strong>, educati<strong>on</strong>al and promoti<strong>on</strong>al purposes. (R/1278/X)<br />

We would support <strong>the</strong> idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a suite <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> much briefer documents, perhaps tailored to<br />

particular user/land manager groups, with <strong>the</strong> full Code as a reference document for use<br />

<strong>on</strong>ly when <strong>the</strong>re is a particular need. (R/0763/X)<br />

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P/0577/X, P/0577/X, P/0491/X,<br />

P/0889/X, Q/0501/X, Q/0256/X,<br />

Q/0206/X, Q/1308/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1286/X, Q/0828/X, Q/0866/X/d,<br />

Q/0224/X, Q/0517/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, R/1278/X, R/0868/X,<br />

R/1090/X, R/0763/X, U/0922/X,<br />

U/1172/X, V/0398/X, W/0062/X,<br />

W/0080/X, W/0140/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0119/X, W/0180/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0173/X, W/0511/X,<br />

W/0524/X, W/0307/X, W/0335/X,<br />

W/1012/X, W/1016/X, W/1023/X,<br />

W/0246/X, W/1329/X, W/1337/X,<br />

W/1260/X/d, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1052/X/d, W/1235/X, W/0833/X,<br />

W/0882/X, W/0901/X/d, W/1151/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/0991/X, W/0955/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0581/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0589/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0124/X, W/0124/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0235/X, W/0403/X, W/0411/X,<br />

W/0705/X, W/0708/X/d, W/0720/X,<br />

W/0758/X, W/0766/X, W/0767/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/1149/X, W/1109/X,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1112/X, X/0149/X,<br />

X/0637/X, X/0196/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/0811/X, X/1174/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1092/X, X/0495/X, X/0421/X,<br />

X/0727/X, X/0784/X, X/0784/X,<br />

X/1056/X.<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Almost a third <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all written <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> supported <strong>the</strong> publicati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a summary Code. Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> advanced different forms that <strong>the</strong><br />

summary could take.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Although <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> highlighted a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> different ways <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> presenting <strong>the</strong> summary Code, a key issue is whe<strong>the</strong>r such a summary is approved by<br />

Parliament or simply uses <strong>the</strong> Approved Code to provide a framework for producing <strong>on</strong>e or more promoti<strong>on</strong>al codes in support <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> work to promote<br />

understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities guided by <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

SNH agrees with many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> in supporting <strong>the</strong> need for a summary Code. However, <strong>on</strong> balance, SNH c<strong>on</strong>siders that this summary is a<br />

promoti<strong>on</strong>al and educati<strong>on</strong>al tool and should not substitute or replicate <strong>the</strong> key principles, “at-a-glance” or “key-points to remember” text c<strong>on</strong>tained in <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 3 – Do you find <strong>the</strong>se key principles helpful in thinking about what resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour means?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

3a. Yes A/0009/X, A/0362/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0518/X, A/0320/X/d, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0821/X/d, A/0825/X, A/0958/X,<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/1084/X, A/0425/X,<br />

A/0469/X, A/0477/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0786/X/d, B/0028/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0345/X, B/0385/X/d, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0300/X/d, B/1231/X, B/1250/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0909/X, B/0925/X,<br />

B/1152/X, B/0935/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0599/X/d, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0470/X, B/0755/X,<br />

B/0787/X/d, D/0022/X, D/0093/X,<br />

D/0521/X, E/1246/Y, E/0703/X,<br />

G/0379/X, G/0114/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0960/X, G/0580/X,<br />

G/0698/X, G/0759/X, G/0785/X,<br />

H/0674/X, H/1103/X, H/0807/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/0515/X, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0439/X, M/0463/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0643/X, P/0491/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/0548/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1239/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1272/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0576/X, P/0577/X, P/0717/X,<br />

P/0889/X, Q/0157/X, Q/0264/X,<br />

Q/0323/X, Q/1275/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

Q/0893/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

R/1221/X, R/0868/X, R/1090/X,<br />

U/0922/X, V/0975/X, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0017/X, W/0021/X, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0391/X, W/0625/X,<br />

W/0108/X, W/0100/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/0277/X, W/0307/X,<br />

W/1007/X, W/1032/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/0214/X, W/1310/X/d, W/1217/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/0112/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

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Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

"Yes. Although people should be encouraged to have Public Liability Insurance in case<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any accidental damage d<strong>on</strong>e. (A/0518/X)<br />

Key Principles - I support <strong>the</strong> key principles set out at <strong>the</strong> beginning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code and<br />

view <strong>the</strong>se as an important message to underpin <strong>the</strong> Code as a whole. Simply put - if<br />

people followed <strong>the</strong> key principles, <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> rest <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code would fall into place.<br />

(B/0574/X)<br />

The four key principles adequately encapsulate <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> reas<strong>on</strong>able access. Int <strong>the</strong><br />

third key principle, 'natural envir<strong>on</strong>ment' should be substituted for 'wildlife' in order to<br />

include plants, water etc. (G/0806/X)<br />

The Key Principles are helpful in defining what resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour means. We<br />

believe that <strong>the</strong> order in which <strong>the</strong>y are presented is wr<strong>on</strong>g. Point 4 should be first <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

list. Point 2 should be reworded to read "assist those who earn a living from <strong>the</strong> land by<br />

heeding <strong>the</strong>ir advice". Point 3 should be reworded to read "show care for all aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> working countryside, wildlife and historic features". (H/0941/X)<br />

VisitScotland welcomes <strong>the</strong> highlighting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se 4 Key Principles Should "flora" be<br />

specifically highlighted in Key Principle 3? (R/1090/X)<br />

The four underlying principles are helpful, even though ra<strong>the</strong>r general. The detail<br />

provided in Secti<strong>on</strong> 2,3 (page 28) and Secti<strong>on</strong> 3,4 (page 39) is very helpful and could<br />

perhaps be clearly linked to <strong>the</strong> four underlying principles in both <strong>the</strong> final versi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Code and in any shorter summaries. (R/1221/X)<br />

The Trust c<strong>on</strong>siders that <strong>the</strong> principles <strong>the</strong>mselves are helpful. Principle 4 would be<br />

streng<strong>the</strong>ned by <strong>the</strong> inclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a resp<strong>on</strong>sibility to take reas<strong>on</strong>able steps to find out<br />

about <strong>the</strong> circumstances before visiting a particular place or engaging in a particular<br />

activity. Access takers could fulfil this by familiarising <strong>the</strong>mselves with <strong>the</strong> appropriate<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Access Code. (X/1092/X)<br />

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W/1158/X, W/0950/X/d,<br />

W/0940/X/d, W/0947/X/d,<br />

W/0972/X, W/1071/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0217/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/1111/X, W/0780/X,<br />

W/1359/X, W/1358/, W/1364/,<br />

W/1367/, W/1373/, W/1377//d,<br />

W/1378/ , X/1212/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/1092/X, X/0405/X/d.<br />

3b. No B/0347/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0637/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/1288/X, B/1062/X,<br />

G/0043/X, J/1284/X, K/1241/X,<br />

P/0274/X, Q/0445/X, V/0398/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0182/C/, W/0457/X,<br />

W/0812/, X/0122/X, X/0495/X,<br />

/1364/ .<br />

The 4 key principles are generalisati<strong>on</strong>s, it is <strong>the</strong> actual practice that matters. (B/0446/X)<br />

I did not find <strong>the</strong> key principles helpful and would delete it and go straight into Secti<strong>on</strong> 1<br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Act. (G/0043/X)<br />

There is a need to streng<strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> third principle. The idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 'mutual respect' is very<br />

important, and although 'respect' is menti<strong>on</strong>ed in <strong>the</strong> first principle, 'respect' and<br />

'resp<strong>on</strong>sibility' need to be highlighted in o<strong>the</strong>rs. There is a need to menti<strong>on</strong> that being in<br />

<strong>the</strong> outdoors is not a n<strong>on</strong>-hazardous activity. There is also a need to menti<strong>on</strong> that what<br />

you do can have an impact <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rs. (P/0274/X)<br />

Principle Three should say clearly that every<strong>on</strong>e who enjoys <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land has a<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibility to avoid damaging it or polluting it in any way. (Q/0445/X)<br />

'Show extra care to wildlife' is a ra<strong>the</strong>r meaningless phrase. There is no menti<strong>on</strong> about<br />

care/respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> property. "Resp<strong>on</strong>sible Behaviour" is not defined and it is unclear what<br />

should be d<strong>on</strong>e in <strong>the</strong> event that a land manager thinks that access takers are behaving<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (V/0398/X)<br />

3c. key principles are<br />

aimed at Users<br />

A/0155/X, A/0319/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0927/X, A/0933/X, A/0968/X,<br />

A/0422/X, B/0834/X, B/0599/X/d,<br />

B/0049/X, B/0226/X, B/0794/X,<br />

G/0146/X, G/0164/X, G/1099/X,<br />

G/1212/X, G/1098/X, G/0604/X,<br />

H/0460/X, K/0722/X, L/1026/X,<br />

P/0274/X, P/0804/X, Q/1286/X,<br />

Q/0686/X, Q/0790/X, R/1278/X,<br />

T/0911/X, U/0363/X, W/1329/X,<br />

W/0944/X, W/0700/X, W/0800/X,<br />

X/1290/X, X/0937/X, /1370/ .<br />

The 'Key Principles' are satisfactory in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public who wish to exercise access<br />

rights but <strong>the</strong>re are here no Key Principles for land managers. (A/0319/X)<br />

These four principles currently read as if <strong>the</strong>y are aimed more at <strong>the</strong> public - <strong>the</strong>y should<br />

apply equally to <strong>the</strong> public and land mangers. For example bullet point 3 refers to "visit"<br />

and "enjoy" but not "manage". (A/0927/X)<br />

Overall, I found <strong>the</strong> principles helpful, but overbalanced favouring <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> those<br />

benefiting from <strong>the</strong> increased access rights. (1) ) (B/0226/X)<br />

These are absolutely fundamental to <strong>the</strong> code and are c<strong>on</strong>cise and clear, although<br />

heavily biased towards <strong>the</strong> users. This needs redressing with an additi<strong>on</strong>al principle<br />

addressed at land managers. (G/1214/X)<br />

The four key principles are to be applauded and will be very useful in educating both<br />

those taking access and land managers. That said, <strong>the</strong> principles came across as aimed<br />

mainly at those taking access and, to redress <strong>the</strong> balance, should c<strong>on</strong>tain reference to<br />

land managers respecting <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public to take access for <strong>the</strong> enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

outdoors. (P/0804/X)<br />

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3d. key principles are<br />

aimed at Land Managers<br />

E/0086/X<br />

3e. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0111/X, A/0097/X, A/0163/X,<br />

A/0838/X, A/0126/X, A/0471/X/d,<br />

A/0740/X, A/0769/X/d, B/0054/X,<br />

B/0371/X, B/0375/X, B/0085/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0171/X/d, B/0558/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0672/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/1240/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0879/X, B/1075/X, B/1078/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1096/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0574/X, B/0594/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0409/X, B/0461/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0481/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/0733/X, B/0738/X, B/0754/X,<br />

B/0772/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1117/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/1074/X, E/1079/X,<br />

E/0590/X, F/0748/X, G/0067/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1291/X, G/1330/X/d,<br />

G/1226/X, G/1251/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/0831/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0973/X, H/0310/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/1179/X, H/0988/X,<br />

H/0615/X, H/0220/X, J/1058/X,<br />

K/0444/X, L/0113/X, L/0513/X,<br />

L/0410/X, M/1327/X, M/1043/X,<br />

P/0464/X, P/0115/, P/0287/X,<br />

P/1304/X, P/1237/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/0869/X, P/0899/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0492/X, P/0491/X,<br />

Q/0024/X, Q/0501/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/1122/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/0707/X, R/1278/X,<br />

T/0911/X, U/1172/X, V/0245/X,<br />

Q3) key principles These appear to be balanced too far toward guidance to visitors;<br />

insufficient emphasis is placed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> expected behaviour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers.<br />

(Q/0790/X)<br />

We suggest that greater emphasis should be given to <strong>the</strong> fact that all <strong>the</strong> land over<br />

which access rights are given, is owned, occupied and in most cases used by some<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r pers<strong>on</strong> or public body for <strong>the</strong>ir own purposes, so that it is vital for <strong>the</strong> access users<br />

to “do as <strong>the</strong>y would be d<strong>on</strong>e by” and for land managers to follow <strong>the</strong> same precept.<br />

(E/0086/X)<br />

Third principle - "look after <strong>the</strong>"... This strikes me as far too vague and open to different<br />

interpretati<strong>on</strong>s. I think it needs to reflect <strong>the</strong> principle that we should leave <strong>the</strong><br />

land/water/living things exactly as we find <strong>the</strong>m. In this respect, <strong>the</strong> wording in 3.32 (p35)<br />

seems more appropriate. (A/0163/X)<br />

The fourth "key principle" should be streng<strong>the</strong>ned to read" …. For you own acti<strong>on</strong>s and<br />

any c<strong>on</strong>sequences arising from irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour, so take care…" (B/1096/X)<br />

Principle 4 would be streng<strong>the</strong>ned by <strong>the</strong> inclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a resp<strong>on</strong>sibility to take reas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

steps to find out about <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>straints before you visit a particular place or engage in a<br />

particular activity. (P/0869/X)<br />

iv) Remember that you have to take resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for your own acti<strong>on</strong>s and <strong>the</strong>re will be<br />

a 'Voluntary Assumpti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Risk' when you are exercising your Rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Access. In<br />

additi<strong>on</strong> to caring for your own safety you also have a 'Duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Care' for <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs, particularly if you are in charge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a group. (Q/0501/X)<br />

However <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> safety is not relevant to <strong>the</strong> code as it is not a facet <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land<br />

Reform Act. It is covered in detail in many o<strong>the</strong>r aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Health & Safety legislati<strong>on</strong> in<br />

<strong>the</strong> UK. (V/1228/X)<br />

They and <strong>the</strong> Code completely fail to address <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong> where sheer weight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> visitors (<strong>the</strong> cumulative effect) results in interference and/or damage.<br />

Individually every<strong>on</strong>e may be observing <strong>the</strong> principles. Collectively <strong>the</strong> result can be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>siderable harm to <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment and to those who earn a living from <strong>the</strong> land.<br />

(B/0167/X)<br />

Generally <strong>the</strong> principles are good but we would like to see <strong>the</strong>m linked more closely to<br />

<strong>the</strong> 6 main resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities for access takers (secti<strong>on</strong> 3) and <strong>the</strong> 3 key resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities for<br />

land managers (secti<strong>on</strong> 4). Such a link would provide a str<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong>me running through<br />

whole document. Principle 4 would be streng<strong>the</strong>ned by <strong>the</strong> inclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a resp<strong>on</strong>sibility<br />

to take reas<strong>on</strong>able steps to find out about <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>straints before you visit a particular<br />

place or engage in a particular activity. (P/0869/X)<br />

Ensure you are well informed about <strong>the</strong> status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land and management operati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

in progress before taking access. (H/0615/X)<br />

A 5th key principle should maybe be added that states that "those exercising access<br />

rights should always c<strong>on</strong>sider <strong>the</strong>y are accessing some<strong>on</strong>e else's property and that <strong>the</strong>y<br />

should have regard to <strong>the</strong>y might like <strong>the</strong>ir own property treated if utilized by <strong>the</strong> general<br />

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V/1228/X, W/0056/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0644/X, W/0529/X,<br />

W/0335/X, W/0675/X, W/1016/X,<br />

W/0255/X, W/1337/X, W/1223/X,<br />

W/0986/X, W/1235/X, W/0817/X,<br />

W/0833/X. W/0901/X/d, W/1151/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1163/X, W/1170/X,<br />

W/0991/X, W/1001/X/d, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0587/X, W/0130/X/d, W/0221/X,<br />

W/0403/X, W/0429/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0789/X, W/1112/X,<br />

W/1130/X, X/0664/X, X/0939/X,<br />

X/1066/X, X/0727/X, X/0784/X,<br />

/1356/.<br />

public". ..... A 6th key principal might read " that rural Scotland is not a homogenous<br />

feature but that it ranges from <strong>the</strong> wild open hill to intensively managed enclosed land <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> urban fringe and what is resp<strong>on</strong>sible access in <strong>on</strong>e are may not be in ano<strong>the</strong>r.<br />

(W/0901/X/d)<br />

Key principles.. Add a bullet 'Leave nothing and take nothing during your visit/stay in <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside.' (W/1337/X)<br />

Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Many <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> supported <strong>the</strong> key principles and put forward suggesti<strong>on</strong>s for improving <strong>the</strong>m. A few resp<strong>on</strong>dents thought <strong>the</strong> principles were aimed<br />

too much at recreati<strong>on</strong>al users, but very few resp<strong>on</strong>ses disagreed with <strong>the</strong> principles as a whole.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Some resp<strong>on</strong>ses wished <strong>the</strong> key principles to apply to both recreati<strong>on</strong>al users and land managers, whilst o<strong>the</strong>rs sought separate principles for <strong>the</strong>se two<br />

different groups. However, <strong>the</strong> majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments related to <strong>the</strong> details <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> how <strong>the</strong> principles were worded or how <strong>the</strong>y were ordered in <strong>the</strong> text.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The Proposed Code reflects many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> comments put forward in that it provides short, all-embracing principles that underpin resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour.<br />

There are now three principles and <strong>the</strong>y have been written to apply equally to both users and land managers. These principles have also been moved<br />

forward within <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code to emphasise <strong>the</strong>ir role .<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 4 – The role and status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is determined by <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act<br />

2003. Do you think it is clearly explained in this introducti<strong>on</strong><br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

4a. Yes A/009/X, A/0518/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0821/X/d, A/0958/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0719/X/d, A/0740/X,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0058/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/0385/X/d, B/0167/X, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0211/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/1152/X, B/1089/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0599/X/d, B/0594/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0409/X, B/0772/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/1114/X/d, C/0182/X, D/0022/X,<br />

D/0093/X, E/0616/X, E/0590/X,<br />

E/0703/X, E/1113/X, G/0043/X,<br />

G/0379/X, G/0114/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/1214/X, G/0806/X, G/0960/X,<br />

G/1098/X, G/0580/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/0785/X, H/1103/X, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0439/X, M/0101/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0643/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0384/X/d, P/0548/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/1239/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/0804/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0889/X, Q/0157/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0445/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, Q/0893/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

U/0922/X, V/0398/X, V/0207/X,<br />

V/0975/X, W/0003/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0140/X, W/0143/X, W/0388/X,<br />

W/0391/X, W/0625/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0108/X, W/0100/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/1007/X, W/1032/X,<br />

W/0255/X, W/1217/X, W/1287/X,<br />

W/112/X, W/1052/X/d, W/1235/X,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/1158/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0423/X, W/0709/X/d,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0780/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1130/X, W/1358/,<br />

39<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

In general this explanati<strong>on</strong> is fine, possible a little legalistic but probably necessarily so<br />

as a basic statement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong> (A/0740/X)<br />

Agree role & status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> code clearly explained in introducti<strong>on</strong>. (B/0599/X/d)<br />

The Estate is generally supportive <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> role and status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code and its clarity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

expressi<strong>on</strong>. (B/1089/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 1: Introducti<strong>on</strong> - This secti<strong>on</strong> helps to explain a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> key terms that will<br />

help people understand <strong>the</strong> document as a whole. (B/0574/X)<br />

Yes, this introducti<strong>on</strong> adequately explains <strong>the</strong> role and status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. However,<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Borders Council is disappointed to note that remote areas are solely equated<br />

with <strong>the</strong> Highlands (para 1.1) and no reference I <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to o<strong>the</strong>r areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland,<br />

including <strong>the</strong> Sou<strong>the</strong>rn Uplands. (P/1239/X)<br />

The Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 seems to be adequately explained for some<strong>on</strong>e<br />

like myself who has no previous knowledge (W/0388/X)<br />

The role and status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is explained well in <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong>. However, it is<br />

important that people understand what <strong>the</strong> access rights mean ra<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>the</strong><br />

background and history. (W/1217/X)<br />

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W/1367/, W/1373/, W/1377//d,<br />

W/1378/ , X/0405/X/d, X/0727/X,<br />

X/0784/X, X/1212/X.<br />

4b. No A/0362/X, A/0098/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0437/X, A/0471/X/d, B/0116/X/d,<br />

B/0184/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0672/X, B/1019/X, B/0443/X,<br />

B/1208/X, B/1288/X, B/1075/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0404/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

B/1267/X/d, E/1079/X, G/1099/X,<br />

G/1291/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

H/0310/X, H/0808/X, J/1284/X,<br />

L/1026/X, P/0878/X, P/0575/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/1286/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

W/0279/X, W/1018/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/1329/X, W/0457/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/0130/X/d, W/0235/X, W/0403/X,<br />

X/1290/X, X/1174/X, X/0122/X,<br />

X/0495/X.<br />

4c. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0825/X, A/0838/X, A/0927/X,<br />

A/0933/X, A/1084/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0126/X, A/0732/X, A/0740/X,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0538/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0446/X, B/1295/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1078/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1096/X, B/0594/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0794/X, B/1117/X, D/0022/X,<br />

D/0350/X, E/0616/X, E/1079/X,<br />

G/0146/X, G/1330/X/d, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/0973/X, G/0604/X,<br />

G/0759/X, G/1057/X, G/1057/X,<br />

H/0310/X, H/1179/X, H/0941/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0460/X, J/1058/X,<br />

K/0444/X, K/1241/X, K/0722/X,<br />

L/1026/X, L/0410/X, M/0463/X,<br />

M/1043/X, N/0694/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/1304/X, P/1219/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/1273/X, P/0899/X,<br />

Not entirely. The fact that <strong>the</strong> Code itself has no place in Law leaves <strong>the</strong> uncertainty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

its authority, I.e. it may in practice have no more authority than <strong>the</strong> Access C<strong>on</strong>cordat.<br />

(A/0098/X)<br />

The code places "resp<strong>on</strong>sibility" <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> public without stating any legal case if he or she<br />

does not. …….Can we have a firm legal definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "resp<strong>on</strong>sible" so that everybody<br />

knows exactly where <strong>the</strong>y stand. (B/0184/X)<br />

The status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code is that <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an advisory document. Its style, t<strong>on</strong>e and general<br />

presentati<strong>on</strong> str<strong>on</strong>gly indicates that is has a regulatory status. (L/1026/X)<br />

Paragraph 1.4 and 1.5 - The status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code is unclear. The following questi<strong>on</strong>s are<br />

unresolved: If it is not an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence to break <strong>the</strong> code, what is <strong>the</strong> point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code? What<br />

powers does <strong>the</strong> sheriff have to punish those that have broken <strong>the</strong> code? What happens<br />

if <strong>the</strong> sheriff finds <strong>on</strong>e party is in <strong>the</strong> wr<strong>on</strong>g? an explanati<strong>on</strong> to this is required in <strong>the</strong> text<br />

at this point. (W/0246/X)<br />

There seems to be some inc<strong>on</strong>sistency in <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> words "must" and "should". I<br />

think "must" ought to be used <strong>on</strong>ly where <strong>the</strong> Code refers to particular statutory<br />

provisi<strong>on</strong>s. (W/0279/X)<br />

The introducti<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> Code should clearly restate <strong>the</strong> presumpti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform<br />

(Scotland) Act 2003 in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access, and also make clear that both access users and<br />

land managers have rights and duties under <strong>the</strong> Act. I assume that <strong>the</strong> Code is a<br />

"reference point" <strong>on</strong>ly for <strong>the</strong> statutory rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibitlies established by <strong>the</strong> 2003<br />

Act, and not for o<strong>the</strong>r customary access rights. This needs to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear. (A/0933/X)<br />

If <strong>the</strong> Code is to have "evidential status" in any dispute arising, <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> descripti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

"irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour" should be much more clearly and legally defined, o<strong>the</strong>rwise <strong>the</strong><br />

document will be merely ammuniti<strong>on</strong> for c<strong>on</strong>testing lawyers. (B/1096/X)<br />

I think <strong>the</strong>re should be an overall statement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> aim to provide 'access for all'. The<br />

principle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all authorised users having an equal right to access does not seem to be<br />

stressed. Legitimate users should not be prevented from access by physical barriers.<br />

(D/0350/Y)<br />

In 1.2 bullet point 3 surely this should include public agencies? (G/1251/X)<br />

The sec<strong>on</strong>d and third sentences <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paragraph 1.1 are inaccurate. The right is a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. Access rights do not exist outwith resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour. These<br />

sentences should be replaced by: Those who undertake outdoor recreati<strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibly<br />

can do so as a matter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> right under <strong>the</strong> Act. This Code defines what is meant by<br />

"resp<strong>on</strong>sible". Similarly, <strong>the</strong> sec<strong>on</strong>d bullet point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paragraph 1.2 should say:<br />

The...Code...gives practical guidance <strong>on</strong>: what c<strong>on</strong>stitutes resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by<br />

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P/0928/X, P/1066/X, P/0576/X/ ,<br />

Q/0499/X, Q/0501/X, Q/1286/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/1122/X, Q/0415/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, Q/0707/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

Q/0790/X, R/1221/X, R/1278/X,<br />

R/0910/X, U/0922/X, U/1172/X,<br />

V/0245/X, W/0018/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0056/X, W/0388/X, W/0644/X,<br />

W/0530/X, W/1189/X, W/0532/X,<br />

W/0201/X, W/1310/X/d, W/1337/X,<br />

W/1235/X, W/0897/X, W/1151/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/0991/X, W/0573/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0581/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0702/Y, W/0702/Y, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0720/X, W/1141/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1370/, X/0099/X, X/0939/X,<br />

X/1067/X, X/0122/X, X/0122/X.<br />

access takers. (H/0310/X)<br />

Generally yes - <strong>the</strong> key point is to ensure that <strong>the</strong>re is a good understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what <strong>the</strong><br />

access rights mean. In <strong>the</strong> "master code" <strong>the</strong>re should be more cross-referencing <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

to <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003. Perhaps through <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

footnotes/endnotes. (P/0899/X)<br />

...I am thinking in particular <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comm<strong>on</strong> law access, rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way, implied c<strong>on</strong>sent and<br />

trespass…this need not leng<strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> code hugely…<br />

..The parliamentary and o<strong>the</strong>r debates <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> bill investigated and clarified many aspects<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> existing <strong>Scottish</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> and case law. It would be a shame if <strong>the</strong> results <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this<br />

process were lost or not put into practice...<br />

...As an example, it became clear that <strong>the</strong>re is no basic law <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> trespass in Scotland. The<br />

fact should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> absolutely clear from <strong>the</strong> word go in <strong>the</strong> access code, and indeed<br />

propagated down to <strong>the</strong> shortest summaries <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code......Obviously <strong>the</strong> code should<br />

point out that <strong>the</strong>re are aggravated trespass, collective trespass and trespassory<br />

assembly laws. (W0702/Y)<br />

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Supplementary Comments - Relati<strong>on</strong>ship between <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 and o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0098/X, A/0518/X,<br />

General comments A/0290/X, A/0927/X, A/1076/X,<br />

A/0126/X, A/0134/X/d, A/0478/X/d,<br />

A/0487/X, A/0769/X/d, A/0786/X/d,<br />

A/0796/X/d, B/0151/X, B/0377/X,<br />

B/0396/X/d, B/0628/X, B/0085/X,<br />

B/0184/X, B/0167/X, B/0525/X/d,<br />

B/0326/X, B/0858/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/1199/X, B/0563/X, B/0242/X,<br />

B/0247/X, B/0260/X, B/0443/X,<br />

B/1271/X, B/1281/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/0677/X, B/0801/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0839/X, B/1089/X, B/1096/X,<br />

B/1101/X, B/1126/X, B/0409/X,<br />

Dog fouling<br />

B/0510/X, B/0506/X, B/0738/X,<br />

B/0752/X, B/0754/X, B/0772/X,<br />

B/0787/X/d, B/1142/X, B/1143/X,<br />

B/1114/X/d, B/1127/X/d, D/0350/Y,<br />

E/0616/X, E/0523/X, E/1243/X,<br />

E/1245/X, E/1079/X, E/0809/X,<br />

E/0924/X, E/1074/X, E/1079/X,<br />

F/0360/X, F/0998/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, G/1155/X, G/0132/X,<br />

G/0795/X, G/1044/X, H/1182/X,<br />

H/1276/X, H/0808/X, H/0915/X,<br />

H/1140/X, J/1058/X, J/1255/X,<br />

Poaching<br />

K/0444/X, K/1302/X, K/0714/X,<br />

Road traffic<br />

L/0650/X, L/0791/X, M/0852/X,<br />

M/0463/X, N/1268/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/1219/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/1273/X, P/1296/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/1066/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0577/X, P/0717/X,<br />

Criminal justice and public P/0889/X, Q/1061/X, Q/0790/X,<br />

order<br />

R/0549/X, R/1278/X, U/0922/X,<br />

V/1304/Y, V/1228/X, V/1285/X,<br />

42<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

It is <strong>the</strong> opini<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Legal Team <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Aberdeen City Council that owners <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land are not<br />

subject by virtue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Occupiers Liability (Scotland) Act 1960 to have resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for<br />

people who injure <strong>the</strong>mselves by coming <strong>on</strong>to land without <strong>the</strong> invitati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

landowner. This, and how <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 sits within <strong>the</strong> legal<br />

hierarchy should be clarified in <strong>the</strong> Code. For example, where Acts such as <strong>the</strong> Land<br />

Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 and Trespass (Scotland) Act 1865, in instances such as<br />

wild camping, have differing positi<strong>on</strong>s, which <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> two takes precedence? (P/0577/X)<br />

The Park Authority c<strong>on</strong>siders it necessary that <strong>the</strong> Code should be prefaced with a<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> placing it into c<strong>on</strong>text with o<strong>the</strong>r legislati<strong>on</strong> and guidance e.g. Disability<br />

Discriminati<strong>on</strong> Act and Biosecurity. (X/1036/X)<br />

It is inappropriate to link legitimate access with criminal behaviour (p22 2.5, p26 2.16).<br />

It would be relevant and informative to carry details <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> relevant Acts, for <strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

land managers and <strong>the</strong> public alike, as an Annex 1. (W/0489/X)<br />

Under 'keep your dog under proper c<strong>on</strong>trol' you quite rightly refer to <strong>the</strong> disposal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog<br />

dirt. With <strong>the</strong> implementati<strong>on</strong> later this year <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Dog Fouling (Scotland) Act 2003 it will<br />

be a legal obligati<strong>on</strong> to dispose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog dirt in all open places with <strong>the</strong> excepti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

agricultural land. This bullet point should be amended to make this obligati<strong>on</strong> clear. The<br />

Code demands in para 3.37 that dogs should not go into fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> vegetables or fruit, nor<br />

<strong>on</strong> to play and sports areas because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> diseases that <strong>the</strong>y may transmit. Yet in para<br />

3.38 <strong>the</strong> Code advises dog owners to dispose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog dirt safely in <strong>the</strong>se and similar<br />

places, and <strong>the</strong>re is a legal requirement to dispose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog dirt <strong>on</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way and o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

public places. As I menti<strong>on</strong>ed above, <strong>the</strong> Dog Fouling (Scotland) Act 2003 requires all<br />

dog dirt to be picked up and disposed <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> in an appropriate reseptacle from all open-air<br />

places (Except agricultural land or where <strong>the</strong> owner has given permissi<strong>on</strong>). Some clarity<br />

here would be welcome.(A/0658/X/d)<br />

Access will become even easier for poachers and poaching law is outdated. (E/0523/X)<br />

Driving a vehicle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> public road. I grew up with this, having to deal with <strong>the</strong> recovery<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> broken down vehicles. It has to be stated that private roads are covered by this<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> RTA. The last sentence may need rewording. In my day, <strong>the</strong> distance was<br />

50 feet and <strong>the</strong>re had to be a reas<strong>on</strong> for going <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> road such as something wr<strong>on</strong>g<br />

with <strong>the</strong> vehicle or some<strong>on</strong>e inside it. Perhaps <strong>the</strong> wording and intenti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> RTA has<br />

been changed and I am wr<strong>on</strong>g but I think you should check up <strong>on</strong> this. (W/0641/X)<br />

Page 58. Trespassory Assemblies. Groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 20 or more can be prohibited unless<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers has been given. This gives cause for c<strong>on</strong>cern to Ramblers.<br />

(G/1155/X)<br />

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Trespass- general<br />

Tresspass - <strong>the</strong> 1865 Act<br />

regarding fires<br />

W/0071/X, W/0143/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0649/X, W/0088/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0524/X, W/0277/X, W/0848/X,<br />

W/0857/X, W/0532/X, W/0533/X,<br />

W/0566/X, W/0255/X, W/0212/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/1277/X, W/0817/X,<br />

W/0818/X, W/1158/X, W/1001/X/d,<br />

W/1071/X, W/1102/X/d, W/0573/X,<br />

W/0579/X, B/1261/X, W/0587/X,<br />

W/0489/X, W/0705/X, W/0746/X,<br />

W/0758/X, W/0768/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0775/X, W/0780/X, W/0781/X,<br />

W/0792/X, W/1141/X, W/1110/X,<br />

W/1112/X, X/0192/X/d, X/1353/X,<br />

X/1298/X, X/0896/X, X/1036/X,<br />

X/0811/X, X/0989/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/0600/X.<br />

Page 24 - Para 2.4 - Unsure how 'wild camping' can sit wit <strong>the</strong> crime <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> trespassing<br />

under <strong>the</strong> Trespass (Scotland) Act 1865, which says that parties encamping <strong>on</strong> land<br />

without permissi<strong>on</strong> and every pers<strong>on</strong> who encamps or lights a fire in or near any road or<br />

enclosed or cultivated land without <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sent and permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> owner or legal<br />

occupier is guilty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence. (P/0577/X)<br />

The code notes that it is an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence to light a fire near a road, <strong>on</strong> enclosed land or near a<br />

plantati<strong>on</strong> etc. (page 57). In an o<strong>the</strong>r secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> page 22 <strong>the</strong> code suggests that it is a<br />

criminal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence to light a fire anywhere without permissi<strong>on</strong> (but permissi<strong>on</strong> from who?). I<br />

really think this subject is muddled and some better guidance is needed here, if not<br />

actually legislati<strong>on</strong>. (B/0260/X)<br />

Traditi<strong>on</strong>al access rights Relating to <strong>the</strong> str<strong>on</strong>g traditi<strong>on</strong>s in Shetland, he asked whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> LR(S) Act was<br />

affected by Feudal Law. How does Udal law affect <strong>the</strong> code?<br />

In case you d<strong>on</strong>'t know, Udal law is <strong>the</strong> old Norse system <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> landholding based, so far as<br />

I can judge, <strong>on</strong> "customary practice" ra<strong>the</strong>r than written law, i.e. in case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dispute, <strong>the</strong><br />

court must judge what was <strong>the</strong> established practice in <strong>the</strong> past or in similar cases.<br />

(B/0151/X)<br />

We recommend that <strong>the</strong> access code cover all aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access law and practice, not<br />

just those covered by <strong>the</strong> Act. ….. I am thinking in particular <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comm<strong>on</strong> law access,<br />

rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way, implied c<strong>on</strong>sent and trespass. (L/0791/X)<br />

Rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way The legislati<strong>on</strong> relating to rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way should be altered. I feel that <strong>the</strong> 20 year usage<br />

rule is old fashi<strong>on</strong>ed and out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> date and should be ten or less. In ten years <strong>the</strong> number<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> houses in West Lothian will double, which clearly indicates <strong>the</strong> rate <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> change is much<br />

faster than at <strong>the</strong> time <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Way legislati<strong>on</strong> could possibly have predicted. It is<br />

not clear how <strong>the</strong> access code ties in with <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way legislati<strong>on</strong>. (W/0071/X)<br />

Paragraph 2.20 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document discusses rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way in relati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong><br />

new access rights; sportscotland c<strong>on</strong>siders that it would be beneficial to point out that<br />

not all forms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong> included in access rights will necessarily extend to rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

way. ......... The code document needs to clarify how <strong>the</strong> Code and code document relate<br />

to <strong>the</strong> country code; does it supersede <strong>the</strong> country code or is it complimentary to it?<br />

(R/1278/X)<br />

Envir<strong>on</strong>mental protecti<strong>on</strong> The existing criminal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences listed in Annex 1 have little or no effect <strong>on</strong> behaviour, due<br />

to lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resources or will to pursue prosectuti<strong>on</strong>s. Should local authorities be obligated<br />

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to collect litter? Why should it be <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a landowner or manager? While<br />

<strong>the</strong> code menti<strong>on</strong>s that every<strong>on</strong>e has a duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care to <strong>the</strong>mselves, this point seems to<br />

be given inadequate emphasis. (W/0277/X)<br />

Guns / firarms We note that armed trespass in not included in <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> criminal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences, ei<strong>the</strong>r <strong>on</strong><br />

pages 26 and 27 or in Annex 1. Legal opini<strong>on</strong> taken by BASC Scotland indicates that <strong>the</strong><br />

Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 effectively over-rides Secti<strong>on</strong> 20 (2) <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Firearms<br />

Act 1968, <strong>the</strong>reby removing <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> armed trespass <strong>on</strong> most land in Scotland.<br />

(Secti<strong>on</strong> 20 (2) states that "A pers<strong>on</strong> commits an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence it, while he has a firearm with<br />

him, he enters or is <strong>on</strong> any land as a trespasser and without reas<strong>on</strong>able excuse (<strong>the</strong><br />

pro<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> lies <strong>on</strong> him)." Obviously, a pers<strong>on</strong>a acting resp<strong>on</strong>sibly under <strong>the</strong> Access legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

would not be a trespasser and could not <strong>the</strong>refore be charged with armed trespass.) Is<br />

this SNH's understanding as well, <strong>the</strong>reby explaining <strong>the</strong> absence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any reference to<br />

armed trespass as a criminal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence? We also understand that some within SNH feel<br />

that <strong>the</strong> effective over-riding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Secti<strong>on</strong> 20 (2) will somehow be replaced by Secti<strong>on</strong> 19.<br />

There are subtle but important difference between <strong>the</strong>se two Secti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Firearms<br />

Act and <strong>the</strong>se must be fully explored. For example, Secti<strong>on</strong> 20 referes to " a firearm"<br />

whereas Secti<strong>on</strong> 19 refers to a "loaded" firearm or a firearm "toge<strong>the</strong>r with ammuniti<strong>on</strong><br />

suitable for use in that firearm. (H/0808/X)<br />

Protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock It should be pointed out in <strong>the</strong> SHARPEST terms that where a dog is chasing livestock<br />

or even running unc<strong>on</strong>trolled & loose near livestock, <strong>the</strong> dog can be quite legally shot. If<br />

this point was underlined in <strong>the</strong> code, I think it would more than anything, effect how <strong>the</strong><br />

dog owners c<strong>on</strong>duct <strong>the</strong>mselves. (B/0242/X)<br />

Nature c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> One <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> main problems is going to be <strong>the</strong> wear and tear <strong>on</strong> tracks and paths if <strong>the</strong>re is<br />

to be increased traffic <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>m be it from feet, cycle or horse. They will so<strong>on</strong> become<br />

muddy swamps in <strong>the</strong> wet bits and <strong>the</strong>y well spread wider and wider and in <strong>the</strong> uplands<br />

particularly and also <strong>the</strong> wet places and lead to <strong>the</strong> destructi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> local flora, which<br />

under <strong>the</strong> Nature C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> Bill you SNH are supposed to protect. (W/1102/X/d)<br />

Natura We wish to discuss with SNH how it will address <strong>the</strong> exercise <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> statutory access rights<br />

in Natura sites. Ra<strong>the</strong>r than await a potential c<strong>on</strong>flict situati<strong>on</strong> and, <strong>the</strong>n, to rely <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> (Natural Habitats &c) Regulati<strong>on</strong>s 1994 to address <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong>, we<br />

believe that SNH and/or local access forums should c<strong>on</strong>sider what access is/may be<br />

exercised <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se sites, c<strong>on</strong>sider whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong>re will be an impact and, if so, to<br />

agree/introduce <strong>the</strong> appropriate management measures. ................. Earlier versi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Code included a secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> "resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> statutory authorities" in additi<strong>on</strong> to<br />

those <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 'access-takers' and land managers. In this versi<strong>on</strong>, this seems to have been<br />

reduced to paras 6.7 and 6.8, as well as annex 3. We believe this to be unfortunate and<br />

would recommend a revisi<strong>on</strong> to re-insert a substantial secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

statutory authorities. In particular, we believe this is necessary in relati<strong>on</strong> to SNH's duties<br />

and powers in relati<strong>on</strong> to nature c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> (and its interacti<strong>on</strong> with <strong>the</strong> new access<br />

arrangements). At present, SNH's natural heritage resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities are not even<br />

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menti<strong>on</strong>ed in paras 6.7, 6.8 or annex 3. ...... The Code should indicate that SNH will<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sider <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access, and if necessary its appropriate management, in<br />

determining <strong>the</strong> Site Management Statements for SSSIs and management objectives for<br />

SACs/SPAs. Where management measures to infulence <strong>the</strong> exercise <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights is<br />

appropraite, <strong>the</strong> Code should indicate that SNH and <strong>the</strong> owner/occupier will agree <strong>the</strong><br />

management according to <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (as<br />

amended). It should fur<strong>the</strong>r specify that such arrangments will be impemented by <strong>the</strong><br />

use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> S.29 signs, o<strong>the</strong>r specific local guidance, management rules, or whatever 'tool' is<br />

most appropriate and disseminated to potential users via <strong>the</strong> local access forum and<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r means. ....... "Management rules" in annex 3 refers <strong>on</strong>ly to local authority land. Can<br />

such rules not be agreed (with SNH? with local access forum?) for o<strong>the</strong>r recreati<strong>on</strong>al (or<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong>) land, such as privately owned country parks, NG)-run nature reserves,<br />

SNH-managed NNRs? (K/1302/X)<br />

Wild mammals There is no menti<strong>on</strong> in Annex 1 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> The Wild Mammals (Scotland) Act and<br />

insufficient reference to The Animals Act and liability for animals arising from it.<br />

(E/0924/X)<br />

Wildlife and countryside Wildlife & Countryside Act. There is a striking c<strong>on</strong>trast in <strong>the</strong> Code between <strong>the</strong><br />

obsessively literal translati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access legislati<strong>on</strong> and <strong>the</strong> extremely liberal and loose<br />

interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Wildlife & Countryside Act…… The Code should not c<strong>on</strong>tradict <strong>the</strong><br />

provisi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Wildlife & Countryside Act. (B/0628/X)<br />

Agri-envir<strong>on</strong>ment Argyll & Bute Council would <strong>the</strong>refore like to see closer links between <strong>the</strong> work <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Executive Departments, Government agencies and between <strong>the</strong> access<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> and Code and existing Government support measures such as Agri-<br />

Envir<strong>on</strong>ment Schemes. (P/1296/X)<br />

Biosecurity As farmers in an area so badly affected by foot and mouth disease we find <strong>the</strong> proposed<br />

code so at odds with <strong>the</strong> Bio-security measures now insisted up<strong>on</strong> by SEERAD. That it<br />

beggars belief that <strong>the</strong>se could both originate from <strong>the</strong> same Government! (B/1142/X)<br />

Hunting with dogs A cross reference to <strong>the</strong> hunting with dogs legislati<strong>on</strong> might also be appropriate in Annex<br />

1. (W/1001/X/d)<br />

The foreshore 2.2 (and 2.17, bullet point 4)<br />

While we appreciate that <strong>the</strong> foreshore is not covered by <strong>the</strong> Land Reform Act, we feel it<br />

would be very sensible to include a reference to it in this Code, even if <strong>on</strong>ly to bring into<br />

<strong>on</strong>e Code all <strong>the</strong> law, rules and guidance pertaining to being out and about.<br />

Annex 1. (In several entries) The word "trespass" is used without definiti<strong>on</strong>. (Q/0790/X)<br />

Byelaws Can By-laws and Management Rules be applied to n<strong>on</strong>-local authority owned/managed<br />

sites? (B/0409/X)<br />

Human rights Explanatory text explains that <strong>the</strong>re are a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences in regard to access that<br />

are covered by previous legislati<strong>on</strong> as listed in Annex 1 but in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> code <strong>the</strong>re is no<br />

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eference to wher <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act supersedes parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> previous<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>...........................There are some land managers who c<strong>on</strong>sider that <strong>the</strong> Act<br />

infringes <strong>the</strong>ir rights under European legislati<strong>on</strong> for <strong>the</strong> quiet enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir assets. It<br />

would be helpful if <strong>the</strong> relevance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> European legislati<strong>on</strong> is explained. (B/0443/X)<br />

Fishing Currently <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "set lines" whilst fishing for game fish is not dealt with by <strong>the</strong> police<br />

as <strong>the</strong> procurator fiscal is unwilling to bring prosecuti<strong>on</strong>s and <strong>the</strong> is a very bad start to<br />

<strong>the</strong> process. We would like to see a firmer reference to <strong>the</strong> fishing laws in <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

(F/0998/X)<br />

Sundays. It is actually illegal ra<strong>the</strong>r than "not <strong>the</strong> practice" to fish for salm<strong>on</strong> & sea trout<br />

<strong>on</strong> Sunday, as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> "weekly close time" - Secti<strong>on</strong> 13 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Salm<strong>on</strong> & Freshwater<br />

Fisheries (Protecti<strong>on</strong>) (Scotland) Act 1951 as amended by fur<strong>the</strong>r Acts & Regulati<strong>on</strong>s in<br />

1976,86988. The shooting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wildfowl is also illegal in Scotland <strong>on</strong> Sunday (&<br />

Christmans Day) under <strong>the</strong> Wildlife & Countryside Act 1981. Wildfowl are distinct from<br />

Game which has its own <strong>Scottish</strong> Legislati<strong>on</strong>. (W/0649/X)<br />

Disability discriminati<strong>on</strong> With reference to <strong>the</strong> requirements under <strong>the</strong> Disability Discriminati<strong>on</strong> Act 1995, a<br />

separate secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> access for people with disabilities and managing access for people<br />

with disabilities may be required although care must be taken to ensure that this is not<br />

seen as an unnecessary form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> segregati<strong>on</strong>. (P/0577/X)<br />

It is surprising that <strong>the</strong> Code makes no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> 1995 Disability Discriminati<strong>on</strong> Act,<br />

which also has increasing access for all at its core. There is an opportunity in <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code to reinforce <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> DDA legislati<strong>on</strong> as well as to<br />

recommend provisi<strong>on</strong>s which are necessary to comply with <strong>the</strong> law. (V/1285/X)<br />

Comm<strong>on</strong> grazing The access code c<strong>on</strong>flicts with Land Court rulings <strong>on</strong> Comm<strong>on</strong> Grazing which do not<br />

allow dogs <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> hill at all without <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 3 shareholders (Nati<strong>on</strong>al Archives <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Scotland LC/138 par.9). (H/1140/X)<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r Para 2.13: NERC recommends that <strong>the</strong> Code should include a clause to clarify that it<br />

does not include land and water access by pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>essi<strong>on</strong>al bodies from <strong>the</strong> public sector<br />

(e.g. BGS, CEH, SEPA, Historic Scotland) or charitable istituti<strong>on</strong>s (e.g. RSPB, SWT) for<br />

<strong>the</strong> purposes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> carrying out a survey. Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se activities are covered by separate<br />

Acts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Parliament including <strong>the</strong> Geographical Survey Act (1845) and <strong>the</strong> Science and<br />

Technology Act (1965). (P/1304/X)<br />

Our major c<strong>on</strong>cern remains that namely <strong>the</strong> lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recogniti<strong>on</strong> that British Waterways<br />

has stautory obligati<strong>on</strong>s that it must meet. These obligati<strong>on</strong>s are all <strong>the</strong> subject <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> preexisting<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> type referred to in secti<strong>on</strong> 6 (1) (d) <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform<br />

(Scotland) Bill. The code fails to recognise <strong>the</strong>se statutory obligati<strong>on</strong>s. ........ The<br />

statutory regime under which British Waterways operates those canals entrusted to it<br />

restricts public access in certain circumstances (Transport Acts 1962 to 1968; British<br />

Transport Commissi<strong>on</strong> Act 1954; British Waterways Act 1995; <strong>the</strong> Harbours Acts and<br />

some 20 or so o<strong>the</strong>r Acts relating to <strong>Scottish</strong> canals). Those canals <strong>the</strong>refore are subject<br />

to, at least, modified access rights by virtue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> s.6(1)d <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Reform (Scotland) Act 2003. It would be misleading if <strong>the</strong> Code <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> no reference to<br />

this limitati<strong>on</strong>, at least by footnote. (X/0896/X)<br />

The majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> indicated that <strong>the</strong> role and status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code had been clearly explained. There were a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pleas for <strong>the</strong><br />

language to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> simpler and for its t<strong>on</strong>e to reflect an advisory ra<strong>the</strong>r than regulatory role.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r comments received, particularly from those with land management interests, raised issues related to <strong>the</strong> enforcement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour more generally.<br />

A number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents, particularly from land management interests, sought a formal means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> redress against those who are not behaving resp<strong>on</strong>sibly.<br />

This was rejected during Parliamentary c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> and as such <strong>the</strong> Code can <strong>on</strong>ly refer to existing legal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences.<br />

SNH also noted that many resp<strong>on</strong>dents were seeking greater clarity in <strong>the</strong> relati<strong>on</strong>ship between <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 and o<strong>the</strong>r legislati<strong>on</strong>,<br />

for example <strong>the</strong> Health & Safety At Work Act 1974.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

As outlined in relati<strong>on</strong> to General Questi<strong>on</strong> 4, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code <strong>on</strong>ly uses <strong>the</strong> term “must” when relating to requirements set out in legislati<strong>on</strong> or to an<br />

existing legal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence. To address <strong>the</strong> link to rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way and customary access, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code provides greater clarity <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> relati<strong>on</strong>ship between<br />

<strong>the</strong> new statutory rights, rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way and customary access. SNH also recognises <strong>the</strong> degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cern about enforcement and will c<strong>on</strong>tinue to work with<br />

<strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive and local authorities to provide clarity in <strong>the</strong> process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resolving problems that may arise in implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

5 - The extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights is determined by <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act<br />

2003. Do you think this secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code summarises access rights accurately and<br />

is <strong>the</strong> interpretati<strong>on</strong> within <strong>the</strong> Code understandable and easy to follow?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

5a. Yes - accurate<br />

summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access rights<br />

A/0009/X, A/0362/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0821/X/d, A/0927/X, A/0958/X,<br />

A/1084/X, A/0469/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0740/X, B/0028/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1093/X, B/0574/X, B/0599/X/d,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0772/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

D/0022/X, D/0093/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0703/X, G/0189/X, G/1099/X,<br />

G/1214/X, G/0806/X, G/0960/X,<br />

G/0973/X, G/0580/X, G/0581/X,<br />

G/0785/X, G/1057/X, K/0444/X,<br />

K/1241/X, L/0439/X, M/1043/X,<br />

P/0640/X, P/0642/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/1219/X, P/1239/X,<br />

P/1247/X, P/0287/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0717/X, Q/0157/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/1346/X, Q/0932/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, U/0922/X, V/0975/X,<br />

W/0003/X, W/0017/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0391/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0182/X, W/1007/X,<br />

W/1032/X, W/0255/X, W/1217/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1158/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0589/X, W/0403/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/1111/X, W/1358/,<br />

W/1359/X, W/1362/, W/1367/,<br />

W/1370/, W/1377//d, X/1212/X,<br />

X/0099/X, X/1174/X, X/0937/X,<br />

X/0784/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Access rights are summarised accurately; interpretati<strong>on</strong> within <strong>the</strong> code is<br />

understandable and easy to follow. (A/0821/X/d)<br />

The summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights at a glance is useful and <strong>the</strong> explanati<strong>on</strong> is thorough. One<br />

point we would pick up <strong>on</strong> is commercial collecting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> mushrooms. How does its<br />

exclusi<strong>on</strong> from <strong>the</strong> right affect activity <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> ground? Does it infer that recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

picking is acceptable and how does it relate to <strong>the</strong> Code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> C<strong>on</strong>duct developed by SNH<br />

for commercial pickers? (K/0444/X)<br />

Yes, Core Paths are first menti<strong>on</strong>ed within Paragraph 2.2 and no definiti<strong>on</strong> is provided<br />

for <strong>the</strong>se, it would be beneficial to do so. (P/0642/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 2 provides a good summary but <strong>the</strong> guidance outlined here is expanded in<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>s 3 and 4 and largely repeated in table 5. Secti<strong>on</strong> 2 could be cut down and table<br />

5, which is very clear and helpful, expanded. In 2.15 Building, civil engineering and<br />

demoliti<strong>on</strong> sites are excluded from <strong>the</strong> right. A developer could interpret this and seek to<br />

exclude access takers from <strong>the</strong> whole <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> large development site over a l<strong>on</strong>g period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

time whe<strong>the</strong>r works were being carried or not. In <strong>the</strong> Act (and in <strong>the</strong> "at a glance" secti<strong>on</strong><br />

at <strong>the</strong> beginning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Secti<strong>on</strong> 2) such land is <strong>on</strong>ly excluded from <strong>the</strong> right whilst works are<br />

going <strong>on</strong>. Cross-referencing and c<strong>on</strong>sistency between <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong>s is required.<br />

(P/0869/X)<br />

5 - This secti<strong>on</strong> does clearly and c<strong>on</strong>cisely explain <strong>the</strong> access rights. Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> text<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>s are too l<strong>on</strong>g and would be easier to read if <strong>the</strong>y were split - to allow easier<br />

reading. (W/1358/ )<br />

549<br />

5b. No - extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

rights not summarised<br />

accurately<br />

A/0330/X, A/0820/X, A/0908/X,<br />

A/0919/X, A/0927/X, B/0012/X,<br />

B/0058/X, B/0375/X, B/0385/X/d,<br />

B/0120/X, B/0178/X, B/0195/X,<br />

Page 26, Secti<strong>on</strong> 2.15 Where do access rights not apply? Bullet point 9. Fishing beats<br />

should be added to grouse. (A/0907/X)<br />

“crossing over golf courses (but not over greens)". This is listed under <strong>the</strong> heading<br />

"Where and when you can exercise your access rights", However, it neglects to state<br />

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B/0160/X, B/0167/X, B/0340/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0300/X/d, B/0863/X,<br />

B/1195/X, B/0663/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/0249/X/d, B/0956/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/1250/X, B/1261/X, B/1271/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/0826/X/d, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0839/X, B/0874/X, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0695/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/1117/X, C/0070/X,<br />

C/0721/X, D/1065/X, E/0013/X,<br />

E/0351/X, E/0086/X, E/1257/X,<br />

F/1134/X, G/0040/X, G/0040/X,<br />

G/0379/X, G/0164/X, G/0854/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1254/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, H/0808/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1284/X, J/1051/X, K/0722/X,<br />

K/0722/X, L/0213/Y, M/0101/X,<br />

M/0667/X, P/0384/X, P/0274/X,<br />

P/0316/X, P/1272/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/0869/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0717/X, Q/0264/X, Q/1308/X,<br />

Q/1312/X, Q/0445/X, Q/1270/X,<br />

Q/0930/X, Q/0415/X, W/0018/X,<br />

W/0056/X, W/0057/X, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0102/X, W/0271/X, W/0354/X/d,<br />

W/0848/X, W/0675/X, W/1018/X,<br />

W/1021/X, W/1031/X, W/1318/X,<br />

W/1337/X, W/0457/X, W/0926/X,<br />

W/0817/X, W/0818/X, W/0833/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, W/0907/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/0430/X/d,<br />

W/0700/X, W/0702/Y, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0702/Y, X/0010/X,<br />

X/0192/X/d, X/1187/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/1290/X, X/0939/X, X/0495/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d.<br />

that such crossing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> golf courses can <strong>on</strong>ly be exercised when doing so will not interfere<br />

with play. This should be amended. The same secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>n c<strong>on</strong>tinues to define "What<br />

you can do under access rights", including defining recreati<strong>on</strong>al pursuits. However,<br />

under <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> "Where do access rights not apply?”, it is silent <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> fact that access<br />

rights for recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes DO NOT apply to golf courses. This is misleading and<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fusing, and needs to be corrected by additi<strong>on</strong> to balance <strong>the</strong> statement in secti<strong>on</strong> 2.2<br />

and reflect accurately <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>tent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform Bill. (B/0178/X)<br />

page 22, paragraph 2.4 and Page 25 paragraph 2.15 The statements "n<strong>on</strong>-residential<br />

buildings and associated land" and "n<strong>on</strong>-residential buildings and o<strong>the</strong>r structures and<br />

works and <strong>the</strong> land adjoinging <strong>the</strong>m" should be clarified to exclude ruined buildings,<br />

outlying sheds, walls, piers, slipways etc... Page 26, paragraph 2.15 "Harbours, piers<br />

and slipways should be clarified. (G/1307/X)<br />

At 2.2 The advice should be that you may cross fences and walls <strong>on</strong>ly if <strong>the</strong>re is no<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>able alternative, and providing you do not cause any damage. (L/0513/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> generally summarises access rights accurately. However, <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

educati<strong>on</strong> in 2.11 needs to be broadened to include all <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> reas<strong>on</strong>s why educati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

groups access land and water. <strong>Outdoor</strong> Educati<strong>on</strong> encourages use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> outdoors to<br />

develop pers<strong>on</strong>al and social skills-and to take part in healthy, physical exercise.<br />

(P/1218/X)<br />

There is not menti<strong>on</strong> anywhere in <strong>the</strong> document <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access where <strong>the</strong>re are<br />

wind farms. In some cases, <strong>the</strong>re are padlocked gates with no right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> entry. Why is <strong>the</strong><br />

subject <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wind farms omitted from <strong>the</strong> Draft Code? (Q/1270/X)<br />

A summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> your access rights: at glance (Page 22) - There is a general<br />

misc<strong>on</strong>cepti<strong>on</strong> that rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way are eclipsed by <strong>the</strong> new access rights/core paths,<br />

although <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> and <strong>the</strong> "code" clearly states that this is not <strong>the</strong> case....The <strong>draft</strong><br />

code is however perfectly clear <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> matter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> relati<strong>on</strong>ship between rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way,<br />

access rights and core paths so perhaps I am pandering to <strong>the</strong> ill informed. (W/1149/X)<br />

5c. Yes - interpretati<strong>on</strong> is<br />

understandable<br />

A/0319/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0181/X,<br />

D/0022/X, K/1241/X, P/0640/X,<br />

The summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights is clear, I d<strong>on</strong>'t know whe<strong>the</strong>r it is accurate. The<br />

interpretati<strong>on</strong> is clear. (A/0319/X)<br />

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5d. No - interpretati<strong>on</strong> is<br />

not understandable<br />

P/0491/X, P/1272/X, Q/0187/X,<br />

W/0056/X, W/0214/X, W/1130/X.<br />

A/0111/X, A/0098/X, A/0163/X,<br />

A/0666/X, A/0838/X, A/0871/X,<br />

A/0927/X, A/0425/X, B/0042/X,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0148/X, B/0371/X,<br />

B/0116/X/d, B/0118/X, B/0120/X,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0171/X/d, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/1199/X, B/0670/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/0673/X, B/0677/X, B/0241/X,<br />

B/1303/X/d, B/0982/X, B/1271/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/0835/X, B/0912/X,<br />

B/0918/X, B/1267/X/d, D/1065/X,<br />

E/0013/X, E/0616/X, E/1257/X,<br />

E/0906/X, G/0043/X, G/0114/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1307/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/0917/X, G/0132/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0684/X, J/1255/X, K/0714/X,<br />

K/0722/X, M/0852/X, M/1327/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/1272/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/0890/X, P/1066/X, P/0717/X,<br />

Q/0323/X, Q/0856/X, Q/1308/X,<br />

Q/0974/X, Q/1275/X, Q/1286/X,<br />

Q/1061/X, Q/0707/X, T/0911/X,<br />

U/1172/X, V/0398/X, V/0851/X,<br />

V/0245/X, W/0071/X, W/0057/X,<br />

W/0057/X, W/0140/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0108/X, W/0354/X/d,<br />

W/0246/X, W/0212/X, W/1310/X,<br />

W/1325/X, W/1329/X, W/1265/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/0903/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/0235/X, W/0702/Y, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/1139/X, W/1149/X,<br />

X/1290/X, X/0099/X, X/1174/X,<br />

X/1067/X.<br />

In general I think you have d<strong>on</strong>e a pretty reas<strong>on</strong>able job <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> translating <strong>the</strong> Act into<br />

something that is helpful and workable. (B/0181/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> is ra<strong>the</strong>r lengthy, but necessarily so in order to fully explain all rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access. It is gratifying to see <strong>the</strong> retenti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way. The "at a glance"<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> is particularly useful in this secti<strong>on</strong>. (P/0491/X)<br />

Questi<strong>on</strong> 5. Yes, I believe <strong>the</strong> summary and interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access rights set out in<br />

<strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 is clear and easy to follow. (W/0214/X)<br />

2.8 The Land Reform (Scotland) Act establishes statutory public rights for recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

and o<strong>the</strong>r purposes. As this is absolutely fundamental to statutory access rights <strong>the</strong><br />

Code should not include definiti<strong>on</strong>s o<strong>the</strong>r than those within <strong>the</strong> Act; attempts to do so,<br />

however well meaning, may limit <strong>the</strong> breadth <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act's intent. 2.14 This paragraph<br />

includes <strong>the</strong> statement "Access rights also allow you to "cross over land". This could be<br />

misinterpreted as meaning that you should not stop moving. The Act states that <strong>the</strong><br />

public have a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "remaining" <strong>on</strong> land. Recreati<strong>on</strong> is not just about getting from <strong>on</strong>e<br />

place to ano<strong>the</strong>r. The intent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this potentially misleading statement should be clarified.<br />

(A/0927/X)<br />

No! Much ambiguity….for example, definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> garden… or curtilage? (B/0054/X)<br />

I do not c<strong>on</strong>sider that <strong>the</strong> Code gives a clear interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

public in <strong>the</strong> proximity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> country houses set in private policies to <strong>the</strong> extent that <strong>the</strong>se<br />

rights are nei<strong>the</strong>r clearly understandable nor easy to follow. (B/0982/X)<br />

2.2, 11th bullet, should be fur<strong>the</strong>r qualified by <strong>the</strong> words "or when <strong>the</strong> exercise <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

rights would not interfere with <strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>al activity to which <strong>the</strong> land is being put".<br />

(G/1099/X)<br />

There is no right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> free fishing <strong>on</strong> inland waters in Scotland - not for freshwater fish nor<br />

for migratory fish and <strong>the</strong>re should be no implicati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>trary <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> SOAC.<br />

(J/1255/X)<br />

Guidance <strong>on</strong> access rights is nei<strong>the</strong>r clear nor precise enough. Could be interpreted in a<br />

way that would cause problems. It needs to be precise and exact in similar ways to <strong>the</strong><br />

"countryside code": (Q/0974/X)<br />

The whole compositi<strong>on</strong> does not make for easy reading, is c<strong>on</strong>fusing and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten difficult<br />

to understand. Everything stated in 2.2 is clear, but seems to be purposely muddled<br />

<strong>the</strong>reafter, requiring repeated cross-referencing to o<strong>the</strong>r aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> same matter in<br />

subsequent secti<strong>on</strong>s. (W/0143/X)<br />

No - <strong>the</strong> interpretati<strong>on</strong> is not easy to follow. This is because <strong>the</strong> Act has not been<br />

properly thought out. (X/0099/X)<br />

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5e. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0098/X, A/1351/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0290/X, A/0933/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/1076/X, A/1084/X, A/0126/X,<br />

A/0732/X, A/0786/X/d, A/0796/X/d,<br />

A/0796/X/d, B/0028/X, B/0028/X,<br />

B/0033/X, B/0033/X, B/0116/X/d,<br />

B/0118/X, B/0183/X, B/0538/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0672/X, B/0677/X,<br />

B/0679/X, B/0240/X, B/0252/X,<br />

B/0203/Y, B/0204/X, B/0459/X,<br />

B/0462/X, B/1306/X/d, B/1271/X,<br />

B/1281/X, B/1292/X, B/1295/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0835/X, B/0884/X,<br />

B/0885/X, B/0891/X, B/0970/X,<br />

B/1062/X, B/1072/X, B/1078/X,<br />

B/1096/X, B/0574/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0574/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0574/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0609/X, B/0609/X,<br />

B/0609/X, B/0613/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0741/X, B/0772/X,<br />

B/0782/X, B/0787/X/d, B/0794/X,<br />

B/1047/X, B/1033/X, B/1150/X/d,<br />

B/1114/X/d, B/1129/X, D/0022/X,<br />

E/1246/Y, E/0924/X, E/1074/X,<br />

E/0590/X, E/0590/X, F/1134/X,<br />

G/0627/X, G/0082/X, G/0546/X,<br />

G/1307/X, G/1330/X/d, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/0900/X, G/0960/X,<br />

G/1098/X, G/0580/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/0725/X, G/0759/X, G/1057/X,<br />

G/1057/X, G/1057/X, H/0310/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/0941/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/1128/X, J/0544/X, J/1203/X,<br />

K/1302/X, K/1241/X, K/0714/X,<br />

K/0722/X, L/0153/X, L/0513/X,<br />

L/1026/X, L/0976/X, L/0410/X,<br />

L/0747/X, L/1055/X, M/0101/X,<br />

M/0463/X, N/1352/X, N/0694/X,<br />

P/0640/X, P/0643/X, P/0548/X,<br />

Under Secti<strong>on</strong> 2.15 Where do access rights not apply? I would suggest that 'grass/all<br />

wea<strong>the</strong>r/shavings/harrowed gallops that are used by racehorse trainers' be included.<br />

This is a serious safety issue. Fur<strong>the</strong>rmore, owners <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horses-in-training pay <strong>the</strong> trainer,<br />

as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> training fee, for <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> gallops and <strong>the</strong>rfore <strong>the</strong> public should not<br />

have 'free' access. (B/0240/X)<br />

Where do rights not apply? All lambing fields must be included in <strong>the</strong> list as indeed fields<br />

with cows and calves as any country pers<strong>on</strong> can tell you a cow with newborn calf can be<br />

more dangerous than any bull. Also pregnant women or women <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> child bearing age<br />

should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> risks <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disease especially at lambing time. (B/0884/X)<br />

2.2 The use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> word 'parks' has different meanings in different parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> country<br />

and in different c<strong>on</strong>texts. (For example grass parks, nati<strong>on</strong>al parks, country parks,<br />

regi<strong>on</strong>al parks and so <strong>on</strong>). (B/0574/X)<br />

Paragraph 2.17 makes it clear that excluded c<strong>on</strong>duct includes motorised activities and<br />

instances <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> motor vehicles. It does not make it clear that <strong>the</strong> operati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

motorised models is excluded. Remotely c<strong>on</strong>trolled model aircraft, in particular, can be<br />

intimidating to o<strong>the</strong>r land users and dangerous to horse riders. (B/1195/X)<br />

Under a summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights Paragraph 2 page 22 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code, I would like it<br />

specifically menti<strong>on</strong>ed in <strong>the</strong> code that horse driving is included with horse riding and<br />

that horse drivers will be permitted access for recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes. (G/0627/X)<br />

Extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights. No. The "at a glance" summary and paragraph 2.1 suffer from<br />

<strong>the</strong> same problem as that identified under questi<strong>on</strong> 4 above. Paragraph 2.2 needs<br />

substantial qualificati<strong>on</strong> as regards access around <strong>the</strong> margins <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields where crops are<br />

growing. It would be irresp<strong>on</strong>sible, i.e. not within <strong>the</strong> right, to take access in <strong>the</strong>se<br />

places: where a path provides an alternative route; where <strong>the</strong> margin is covered by a<br />

management arrangement with government for c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> purposes; where signs<br />

indicate that <strong>the</strong>re is a hazard to pers<strong>on</strong>s; where a temporary or l<strong>on</strong>g-term exclusi<strong>on</strong><br />

order is in place; where doing so would cause a breach <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> food safety rules and where<br />

livestock are present. (H/0310/X)<br />

Fur<strong>the</strong>r vagueness is introduced <strong>on</strong> page 22 where it says access rights do not apply 'at<br />

visitor attracti<strong>on</strong>s or o<strong>the</strong>r places which charge for entry', without explanati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> how<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r places are defined. (K/1241/X)<br />

The summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights does not state who is entitled to <strong>the</strong>se rights. For<br />

instance, do children have rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access? Perhaps a statement such as "Access rights<br />

can be exercised by every<strong>on</strong>e, children and adults, people with and without disabilities,<br />

local people and visitors to an area" would provide a positive message <strong>on</strong> social<br />

inclusi<strong>on</strong>. For many people who are currently excluded from <strong>the</strong> countryside uncertainty<br />

and a lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>fidence in <strong>the</strong>ir rights is a significant factor. (M/0463/X)<br />

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P/1304/X, P/1218/X, P/1237/X,<br />

P/1247/X, P/0287/X, P/1272/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/0804/X, P/0889/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0928/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0577/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0577/X, P/0491/X,<br />

P/0889/X, Q/0501/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1286/X, Q/0893/X, Q/1061/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/0707/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

R/0549/X, R/1221/X, R/1278/X,<br />

R/0868/X, R/0603/X, V/0207/X,<br />

W/0007/X, W/0011/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0025/X, W/0056/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0381/X, W/0625/X, W/0629/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0644/X, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/1189/X, W/0562/X,<br />

W/0675/X, W/1011/X, W/1014/X,<br />

W/1023/X, W/0239/, W/1202/X,<br />

W/1217/X, W/1227/X/d, W/1280/X,<br />

W/0986/X, W/1235/X, W/0812/Y,<br />

W/0881/X, W/0882/X, W/0886/X,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/1151/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1163/X, W/1170/X,<br />

W/0940/X/d, W/0944/X, W/0573/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0579/X, W/0579/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0579/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0581/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0581/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0581/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0777/X, W/0780/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/0800/X, W/1048/X, W/1135/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1130/X, W/1359/X,<br />

W/1373/, W/1378/ ,X/0637/X,<br />

X/0656/X, X/0193/X/d, X/0664/X,<br />

X/1353/X, X/1290/X, X/0896/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/0937/X, X/0939/X,<br />

X/0122/X, X/0495/X, X/0727/X,<br />

X/1056/X, X/1137/X.<br />

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Supplementary Comments - Issues regarding <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Explicit statements <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

support<br />

Percepti<strong>on</strong> that legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

is unbalanced<br />

A/0050/Y, A/0621/Y, A/0111/X,<br />

A/0319/X, A/1194/X, A/0968/X,<br />

A/0601/X, A/0430/X/d, A/0718/X,<br />

B/0069/X, B/0337/X, B/0964/X,<br />

B/1127/X/d, D/0248/X, E/1246/Y,<br />

G/0082/X, G/1254/X, G/0580/X,<br />

H/1128/X, Q/1230/X, Q/1270/X,<br />

Q/0611/X, V/1285/X, W/0030/,<br />

W/0078/X, W/0618/X, W/0562/X,<br />

W/0239/, W/0427/X, W/0702/Y,<br />

W/0758/X.<br />

B/0995/X, A/0098/X, B/0012/X,<br />

B/0027/X, B/0038/X, B/0075/X,<br />

B/0041/X, B/0042/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0055/X, B/0355/X,<br />

B/0376/X, B/0378/X, B/0620/Y,<br />

B/0631/X, B/0638/X/d, B/0645/X,<br />

B/0660/X, B/0116/X/d, B/0117/X,<br />

B/0118/X, B/0081/X, B/0085/X,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0181/X, B/0160/X,<br />

B/0165/X, B/0519/X, B/0339/X,<br />

B/0340/X, B/0272/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0293/X, B/0303/X, B/0326/X,<br />

B/0336/X, B/0337/X, B/0845/X,<br />

B/0859/X, B/1183/X, B/1186/X,<br />

B/1193/X, B/1200/X, B/0547/X,<br />

B/0563/X, B/0676/X, B/0677/X,<br />

B/0678/X, B/1027/X, B/1341/Z/d,<br />

B/0242/X, B/0252/X, B/0204/X,<br />

B/0215/X, B/0783/X/d, B/0956/X,<br />

B/1317/, B/0982/X, B/1250/X,<br />

B/1253/X, B/1261/X, B/1262/X,<br />

B/1271/X, B/1005/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/1266/X, B/0834/X, B/0891/X,<br />

53<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Access should be a right not a favour, and it should be that all access should be allowed<br />

provided <strong>the</strong> pers<strong>on</strong>s act resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (A/0111/X)<br />

I'd like to c<strong>on</strong>gratulate <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament for what I believe is <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> best pieces<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> legislati<strong>on</strong> it has produced so far. (A/0968/X)<br />

I have always allowed access in and around <strong>the</strong> Estate, and now welcome The Land<br />

Refom Act 2002 and <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code as it sets out guidelines to those<br />

who wish to take access resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (B/0964/X)<br />

The <strong>Scottish</strong> Canoe Associati<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> opini<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> Act and <strong>the</strong> Code will reduce<br />

<strong>the</strong> problems and tensi<strong>on</strong>s over access. The focus will move from whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> public<br />

have a right to be <strong>on</strong> land to what c<strong>on</strong>stitutes resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour. This should be to<br />

<strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all. (G/1254/X)<br />

The access provisi<strong>on</strong>s within <strong>the</strong> Act will be a blessing for generati<strong>on</strong>s to come.<br />

(W/0427/X)<br />

We c<strong>on</strong>sider it important to highlight that we do not think <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> fairly respects<br />

<strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ownership nor does it recognise <strong>the</strong> legitimate business activities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both<br />

owners and occupiers. (B/1240/X)<br />

We believe <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> is not balanced and provides a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access that does not<br />

fairly and appropriately integrate with land management and <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those that live<br />

and work in <strong>the</strong> countryside. (B/1267/X/d)<br />

I regret that <strong>the</strong>re are many parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code which alarm me. There are secti<strong>on</strong>s which<br />

seem close to depriving landowners...<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir rights without compensati<strong>on</strong> which may<br />

well breach human rights. (B/0376/X)<br />

I have been actively involved in Land Management in various different parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Highlands <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland for over 30 years and I am really ra<strong>the</strong>r ashamed that <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong><br />

Parliament has seen <strong>the</strong> need to introduce legislati<strong>on</strong>, where in my experience <strong>the</strong>re<br />

have been very few problems in <strong>the</strong> past which have not been sorted out at source.<br />

(B/0117/X)<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>sible members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public will c<strong>on</strong>tinue to act resp<strong>on</strong>sibly in <strong>the</strong> country and<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible people will now act more unreas<strong>on</strong>ably, c<strong>on</strong>tent in <strong>the</strong> knowledge that <strong>the</strong>y<br />

now have a "Right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Access". The publicati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a Code is irrelevant. (B/0085/X)<br />

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B/0895/X, B/0925/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1167/X, B/1168/X, B/1175/X,<br />

B/0995/X, B/0996/X, B/0935/X,<br />

B/0942/X/d, B/0953/X, B/1062/X,<br />

B/1068/X, B/0574/X, B/0583/X,<br />

B/0595/X, B/0595/X, B/0606 X,<br />

B/0608/X, B/0613/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0123/X, B/0127/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0127/X, B/0506/X, B/0223/X,<br />

B/0223/X, B/0227/X/d, B/0236/X,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0506/X, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0485/X, B/0681/X,<br />

B/0681/X, B/0683/X, B/0685/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0713/X, B/0745/X,<br />

B/0749/X, B/0760/X, B/1046/X,<br />

B/1041/X, B/1131/X, B/1143/X,<br />

B/1144/X, B/1145/X, B/1148/X/d,<br />

B/1129/X, B/0294/X, B/0294/X,<br />

D/0509/X, E/0616/X, E/0172/X,<br />

E/0523/X, E/1257/X, E/1079/X,<br />

E/0765/X, E/1113/X, G/0040/X,<br />

G/0386/X, G/0725/X, H/0497/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/1179/X, H/0515/X,<br />

H/0684/X, H/0728/X, H/1140/X,<br />

J/1058/X, J/1255/X, L/0647/X,<br />

L/0650/X, N/0716/X, P/0492/X,<br />

Q/0026/X, Q/0073/X, Q/0091/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0206/X, Q/1252/X,<br />

R/0549/X, U/0363/X, V/0035/X,<br />

W/0014/X, W/0017/X, W/0074/X,<br />

W/0047/X, W/0057/X, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0381/X, W/0618/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0649/X, W/0103/X,<br />

W/0104/X, W/0109/X, W/0173/X,<br />

W/0503/X, W/0271/X, W/0278/X,<br />

W/0321/X, W/0354/X/d, W/1198/X,<br />

W/1023/X, W/1280/X, W/1282/X,<br />

W/1289/X, W/1294/X, W/0242/X,<br />

W/0130/X/d, W/1235/X, W/0812/Y,<br />

W/0817/X, W/0881/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

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Comments about access<br />

at night<br />

W/1151/X, W/1162/X, W/1170/X,<br />

W/1123/X, W/0591/X, W/0605/X,<br />

W/0612/X, W/0612/X, W/0124/X,<br />

W/0130/X/d, W/0130/X/d,<br />

W/0130/X/d, W/0217/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0489/X, W/0709/X/d, W/0750/X,<br />

W/0758/X, W/0767/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0780/X, W/1111/X, W/1371/,<br />

X/0652/X, X/0196/X, X/0196/X,<br />

X/0664/X, X/1298/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/0600/X, X/0122/X,<br />

X/0122/X, X/0122/X, X/0128/X.<br />

A/0155/X, A/0397/X/d, A/0400/X,<br />

A/0655/X/d, A/0098/X, A/0320/X/d,<br />

A/0825/X, A/0927/X, A/0997/X,<br />

A/0958/X, A/0471/X/d, A/0786/X/d,<br />

B/0015/, B/0060/X, B/0142/X,<br />

B/0342/X, B/0347/X, B/0376/X,<br />

B/0377/X, B/0378/X, B/0396/X/d,<br />

B/0626/X, B/0628/X, B/0638/X/d,<br />

B/0107/X, B/0116/X/d, B/0117/X,<br />

B/0081/X, B/0181/X, B/0183/X,<br />

B/0186/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0340/X,<br />

B/0275/X, B/0298/X, B/0306/X,<br />

B/0312/X, B/0313/X, B/0322/X,<br />

B/0326/X, B/0329/X, B/0331/X,<br />

B/0332/X, B/0336/X, B/0280/X,<br />

B/0141/X, B/1181/X, B/1186/X,<br />

B/1187/X, B/0563/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/0673/X, B/1017/X, B/1022/X,<br />

B/1027/X, B/1350/X, B/0238/X,<br />

B/0242/X, B/0244/X, B/0257/X,<br />

B/0258/X, B/0456/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0956/X, B/0443/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0623/X, B/0982/X, B/1207/X,<br />

B/1208/X, B/1210/X, B/1216/X,<br />

B/1236/X, B/1248/X, B/1261/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/1281/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/1293/X, B/1295/X, B/1002/X,<br />

Night-time access is a basic human right and is a right within <strong>the</strong> Act. Starting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f before<br />

dawn and returning after dusk is a frequent, safe and extremely enjoyable feature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

walking, climbing and mountaineering during <strong>the</strong> winter period; enjoying sunrise or<br />

sunset from hill or mountain summits, coastal headlands and many o<strong>the</strong>r places;<br />

observing and listening to nocturnal wildlife; <strong>the</strong>se and many o<strong>the</strong>r activities are entirely<br />

legitimate. It is crucial, <strong>the</strong>refore, that <strong>the</strong> Code does not diminish this right ei<strong>the</strong>r<br />

explicitly or implicitly. (A/0927/X)<br />

I am particularly c<strong>on</strong>cerned about ramblers walking in <strong>the</strong> dark through fields with calving<br />

cows and lambing ewes…I str<strong>on</strong>gly recommend that night time access be excluded <strong>on</strong><br />

low ground. On mountains I do not think this problem will arise to <strong>the</strong> same extent.<br />

(B/0060/X)<br />

Nocturnal access in <strong>the</strong> lowlands is a thief's charter. (B/0186/X)<br />

I do not believe night time access should be prevented, but <strong>the</strong>re should be a<br />

requirement for people taking such access to clear this with <strong>the</strong> land manager and let<br />

him know roughly where <strong>the</strong>y intend to be. This can also be important from a safety point<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> view. (B/1186/X)<br />

We remain c<strong>on</strong>stant in our view that a 24 hour Right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Access is detrimental to many<br />

who live and work in <strong>the</strong> countryside, to stock and wildlife, and while possibly wellmeaning<br />

in its intenti<strong>on</strong> to ease access restricti<strong>on</strong>s still fur<strong>the</strong>r - will provide cover, ease<br />

and encouragement for rural crime. (J/1058/X)<br />

We would generally be in support <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> night time access, as various groups could be<br />

carrying out legitimate activities e.g. farmers, foresters, dog walkers, hill walkers,<br />

ornithologists etc. (P/1272/X)<br />

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B/1240/X, B/0801/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/0834/X, B/0842/X, B/0895/X,<br />

B/0909/X, B/0913/X, B/0929/X,<br />

B/1160/X, B/1164/X, B/1173/X,<br />

B/1177/X, B/0936/X, B/0943/X,<br />

B/0969/X, B/0970/X, B/1063/C/,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1091/X, B/1101/X,<br />

B/1121/X, B/0588/X, B/0592/X,<br />

B/0593/X, B/0608/X, B/0608/X,<br />

B/0127/X, B/0227/X/d, B/0406/X,<br />

B/0409/X, B/0418/X, B/0413/X,<br />

B/0428/X/d, B/0510/X, B/0404/X,<br />

B/0465/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0488/X/d, B/0473/X/d, B/0485/X,<br />

B/0681/X, B/0683/X, B/0704/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0711/X, B/0754/X,<br />

B/0761/X, B/0783/X/d, B/0787/X/d,<br />

B/0798/X, B/0964/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1033/X, B/1142/X, B/1127/X/d,<br />

B/0294/X, E/0514/X, E/0523/X,<br />

E/0536/X, E/1246/X, E/1257/X,<br />

E/0902/X, E/0921/X, E/1113/X,<br />

F/0998/X, G/0580/X, G/0854/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, H/0370/X, H/1196/X,<br />

H/1222/X, H/1103/X, H/0807/X,<br />

H/0904/X, H/0915/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/0959/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0515/X, J/1058/X,<br />

K/0714/X, K/0722/X, M/0852/X,<br />

N/1268/X, N/0716/X, P/0115/,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1247/X, P/1272/X,<br />

P/0889/X, P/0890/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0717/X, Q/0091/X, Q/0499/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/1252/X, Q/1299/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, Q/0866/X/d, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/0224/X, V/0245/X, W/0079/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0381/X, W/0616/X,<br />

W/0618/X, W/0629/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0100/d, W/0159/X, W/0276/X,<br />

W/0277/X, W/0283/X, W/0295/X,<br />

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Comments about use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

land / facilities by<br />

commercial groups<br />

W/0857/X, W/1024/X, W/1342/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/1324/, W/1263/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1289/X, W/0926/X,<br />

W/1235/X, W/0822/X, W/0836/X,<br />

W/0873/X, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/0991/X, W/0951/X, W/0957/X,<br />

W/0962/X/d, W/0963/X, W/1088/X,<br />

W/1119/X, W/1224/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0130/X/d, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0229/X, W/0402/X, W/0417/X,<br />

W/0412/X, W/0483/X, W/0693/X,<br />

W/0699/X, W/0729/X, W/0735/X,<br />

W/0750/X, W/0766/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0776/X, W/0799/X, W/1014/X,<br />

W/1034/X, W/1227/X/d, X/0149/X,<br />

X/0639/X, X/0652/X, X/0192/X/d,<br />

X/0193/X/d, X/0543/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/0937/X, X/0122/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0426/X.<br />

A/0838/X, A/0968/X, A/0706/X,<br />

A/0786/X/d, B/0028/X, B/0142/X,<br />

B/0152/X, B/0371/X, B/0375/X,<br />

B/0628/X, B/0634/X, B/0638/X/d,<br />

B/0660/X, B/0117/X, B/0081/X,<br />

B/0181/X, B/0186/X, B/0525/X/d,<br />

B/0270/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0280/X,<br />

B/0845/X, B/0860/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/0540/X, B/0545/X, B/0563/X,<br />

B/0569/X, B/0679/X, B/1030/X,<br />

B/0238/X, B/0252/X, B/0254/X,<br />

B/0258/X, B/0211/X, B/0215/X,<br />

B/1301/X, B/1309/X, B/0443/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/1210/X, B/1234/X,<br />

B/1250/X, B/1262/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/1005/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/0801/X, B/0819/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0835/X, B/0840/X, B/0842/X,<br />

B/0883/X, B/0909/X, B/0925/X,<br />

B/1152/X, B/1168/X, B/0935/X,<br />

In cases where <strong>the</strong> landlord has created diversificati<strong>on</strong> with full approval and support <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> authorities, and <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> corresp<strong>on</strong>ding investments, it is surely inappropriate, if not<br />

against his statutory Human Rights, to put <strong>the</strong> exclusivity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se perfectly legitimate<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tracts for <strong>the</strong> water and land use in jeopardy by allowing third parties to cash in <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> same water and land assets. And how will <strong>the</strong> landlord stand if <strong>the</strong> operator sues <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> grounds that <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>tractual exlusivity he has paid for is breached? (B/0081/X)<br />

The use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r people's property for pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>it is allowed by <strong>the</strong> Act, but should not<br />

according to any basic morals. It is simply BLATANT THEFT <strong>on</strong> a grander scale than<br />

most o<strong>the</strong>r government <strong>the</strong>ft so far perpetrated. (B/0270/X)<br />

My c<strong>on</strong>cern is that as a Commercial Landrover Safari Company, we pay rents to Private<br />

Estates for vehicle access <strong>on</strong>to <strong>the</strong>ir land. This is <strong>on</strong>ly right and proper. Why <strong>the</strong>n should<br />

a cany<strong>on</strong>ing/canoe/climbing business not pay a rent for <strong>the</strong>ir access. The Landowner<br />

has to put up with <strong>the</strong> commercial company using his land for free. This is morally not<br />

right. (F/1213/X)<br />

I acknowledge that some activities undertaken <strong>on</strong> private land by third parties for<br />

commercial gain are acceptable - mountain guides, canoe instructors, climbing<br />

instructors for example - <strong>the</strong>re is a danger that <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland)<br />

Act and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code might be exploited by o<strong>the</strong>rs seeking commercial gain. (F/1134/X)<br />

The Code should state that activity by commercial groups should not be undertaken<br />

within fields <strong>on</strong> enclosed farmland, except by permissi<strong>on</strong>. (H/0310/X)<br />

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B/0943/X, B/0946/X, B/0964/X,<br />

B/0966/X, B/0969/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/1126/X, B/0574/X, B/0583/X,<br />

B/0593/X, B/0606/X, B/0049/X/2nd,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0406/X, B/0461/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0481/X, B/0704/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0715/X, B/0731/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0738/X, B/0741/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0761/X, B/0787/X/d,<br />

B/0793/X, B/0794/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1039/X/d, B/1146/X, B/1117/X,<br />

B/0294/X, E/0351/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0523/X, E/0208/X, E/0984/X,<br />

E/1246/Y, E/1257/X, E/0921/X,<br />

E/0924/X, E/1097/X, E/0516/X,<br />

E/0765/X, E/1113/X, F/1213/X,<br />

F/1124/X, F/1134/X, H/0370/X,<br />

H/1196/X, H/1348/X, H/310/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/0807/X, H/0915/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/0941/X, H/0959/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0460/X, H/0515/X,<br />

H/1042/X, H/1042/X, L/0504/X,<br />

L/0513/X, L/0985/X, L/0747/X,<br />

N/0861/X, P/1219/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0890/X, P/0492/X, P/0491/X,<br />

Q/0499/X, Q/0517/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

R/0868/X, R/1090/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0381/X, W/0635/X, W/0190/X,<br />

W/0173/X, W/0354/X/d, W/0857/X,<br />

W/1016/X, W/1315/, W/1324/,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1280/X, W/1282/X,<br />

W/0836/X, W/0873/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/0903/X, W/0999/X, W/0950/X/d,<br />

W/0955/X, W/0951/X, W/0957/X,<br />

W/0963/X, W/0971/X, W/1088/X,<br />

W/1102/X/d, W/0579/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0602/X, W/0614/X, W/0130/X/d,<br />

W/0217/X, W/0435/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0735/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0776/X, W/0780/X,<br />

Horse businesses are pleased that access rights for <strong>the</strong> individual are similar for riding<br />

schools and trekking centres. (P/0890/X)<br />

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W/0799/X, W/1035/X, W/1141/X,<br />

W/1109/X, W/1110/X, W/1112/X,<br />

W/1112/X, X/0656/X, X/0192/X/d,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0543/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/0939/X, X/0495/X, X/0426/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d.<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r issues raised:<br />

C<strong>on</strong>cerns about breadth<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users or activities<br />

encompassed by rights<br />

C<strong>on</strong>cerns about loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

privacy and criminal or<br />

antisocial behaviour<br />

As a working farmer I wish to register my str<strong>on</strong>g disapproval to <strong>the</strong> proposed access<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> . I do most str<strong>on</strong>gly object to any suggesti<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong>y should exercise dogs,<br />

ride horses or bicycles <strong>on</strong> my property. (B/0336/X)<br />

There are golf courses where <strong>the</strong>re are established rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way (St. Andrews). These<br />

are historical and should not be used as a guide for all golf clubs to follow. With regards<br />

to winter activities, this should be left to individual golf clubs. We do not believe that<br />

Governments should legislate that every golf club should have to open its land to <strong>the</strong><br />

public. (B/0012/X)<br />

Regardless <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act, <strong>the</strong> (Code) should<br />

recognise <strong>the</strong> special cases associated with golf courses and introduce specific rules<br />

which would help to protect our courses and our members from unwanted, unreas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

and discourteous acts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access by n<strong>on</strong>-golf club members. (B/0547/X)<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r water-based recreati<strong>on</strong>alists now have <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unlimited access to both still<br />

waters and to rivers, irrespective <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> whe<strong>the</strong>r or not any legitimate angler is present.<br />

(J/1255/X)<br />

'The <strong>draft</strong> gives equal rights to pedestrians, horses and cyclists (apart from golf courses).<br />

While we recognise that this may be <strong>the</strong> letter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> law <strong>the</strong>re are real difficulties where<br />

<strong>the</strong>se three groups have <strong>the</strong> expectati<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong>y will be able to use popular routes<br />

which have <strong>on</strong>ly limited capacity'. (Q/0206/X)<br />

Surely burn fishing (wild fishing) should be allowed in <strong>the</strong> hills. This has been accepted<br />

in many places in <strong>the</strong> Highlands. (W/0057/X)<br />

There must be thought given to genuine cases such as hotels, rural businesses<br />

promoting privacy, homes with policies, where it is reas<strong>on</strong>able to more flexible with <strong>the</strong><br />

definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> curtilage. …. This subject has not been looked into carefully enough. The<br />

political '<strong>the</strong>y've got it I want it' has not helped. Of course estate and land owners must<br />

work with communities and <strong>the</strong> public, but would it not be sensible to try and work things<br />

out at a local level first and have a big stick in <strong>the</strong> background for those who are<br />

obstructive. (B/1167/X)<br />

It is our experience that most walkers have no wish to intrude <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r people's privacy,<br />

and are prepared to respect notices where <strong>the</strong>se are placed at what most people would<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sider to be a 'reas<strong>on</strong>able' distance from a house...It would, indeed, be regrettable if<br />

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C<strong>on</strong>cerns about risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

accidents<br />

<strong>the</strong> new legislati<strong>on</strong> were seen to create a problem where little or n<strong>on</strong>e has existed up til<br />

now. (L/0650/X)<br />

I quite accept that a grouse moor should be accessible in general, however when driving<br />

or walking up is taking place I think it is not unreas<strong>on</strong>able to exclude access to <strong>the</strong> area<br />

over which <strong>the</strong> activity is taking place. Apart from anything else <strong>the</strong> casual walker could<br />

be in some danger during such activity. (B/0181/X)<br />

I express my and my company's c<strong>on</strong>cerns over <strong>the</strong> danger to people's safety posed by<br />

<strong>the</strong> possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unrestricted access by members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public through our work sites as<br />

a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act. (E/0172/X)<br />

It remains <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cern that Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 did not<br />

clearly identify forestry harvesting operati<strong>on</strong>s al<strong>on</strong>g with building and civil engineering<br />

works under <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land where access rights are not exercisable. It <strong>the</strong>refore<br />

falls to Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 (1) (d) to cover any relevant health and safety issues. (R/0549/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Although a large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> felt that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code provided an accurate summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights, a similar number disagreed and felt that<br />

<strong>the</strong> explanati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> could be improved.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

A number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> questi<strong>on</strong>ed <strong>the</strong> interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> regarding access at night and access for commercial purposes. O<strong>the</strong>r<br />

examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> where fur<strong>the</strong>r clarity in <strong>the</strong> interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act is sought included:<br />

• <strong>the</strong> traditi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> picking wild berries - some comments expressed support for this, whilst o<strong>the</strong>rs interpreted this as <strong>the</strong>ft <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some else’s property;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> extent to which access rights apply to golf courses;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> extent to which access rights extend to gardens and in relati<strong>on</strong> to peace and privacy and garden open days;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> curtilage and c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> over whe<strong>the</strong>r some built structures, such as dams, were within access rights;<br />

• resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities in relati<strong>on</strong> to damage or disturbance to plants and wildlife;<br />

• whe<strong>the</strong>r educati<strong>on</strong> establishments included outdoor centres; and<br />

• whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> Code was applicable to young people.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The legislati<strong>on</strong> is clear that access rights can be exercised at night and that access rights extend to certain commercial purposes. However, Part 2 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code has been expanded to provide an accurate interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> and <strong>the</strong>re is greater use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> footnotes to make links between <strong>the</strong><br />

guidance and <strong>the</strong> words used in statute. It is, however, not possible for <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code to adjudicate <strong>on</strong> all <strong>the</strong> areas where uncertainty remains and<br />

some aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> interpretati<strong>on</strong> may yet be subject to determinati<strong>on</strong> by <strong>the</strong> Sheriff Courts.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

6 - A key role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is to show <strong>the</strong> point at which behaviour is or is not<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible. Is <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour – unreas<strong>on</strong>able interference in <strong>the</strong><br />

form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> damage or disturbance causing harm or loss – set too low or too high, or is it<br />

about right?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

6a. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour is set about<br />

right<br />

A/0009/X, A/0425/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0471/X/d, A/0518/X, A/0821/X/d,<br />

A/0825/X, A/0838/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0997/X, A/0958/X, B/0028/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/1039/X/d, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1114/X/d, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0338/X/d, D/0022/X, E/1246/X,<br />

G/0043/X, G/0189/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0114/X, G/0806/X, G/0785/X,<br />

G/0698/X, G/1291/X, G/0379/X,<br />

H/0808/X, K/0714/X, L/0439/X,<br />

P/0640/X, P/0899/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/1066/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1272/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/1275/X, Q/0232/X, Q/0893/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0445/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, R/0868/X, U/0922/X,<br />

V/0207/X, W/0003/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0056/X/d, W/0194/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0214/X, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0108/X/d, W/0095/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/0511/X, W/0625/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/1032/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1130/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/1007/X, W/1367/,<br />

W/0940/X/d, W/0944/X, W/0391/X,<br />

W/0403/X, X/0896/X, X/1067/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

About right, though <strong>the</strong>re is a difficulty with <strong>the</strong> possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cumulative damage.<br />

(A/0838/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walkers, mountaineers and o<strong>the</strong>rs who access <strong>the</strong> outdoors are <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

whole extremely resp<strong>on</strong>sible. This was evidenced during <strong>the</strong> recent foot and mouth<br />

outbreak (A/0997/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> does appear to be about right in showing what is and what is not<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible. If it tried to be more specific, it might be inaccurate in some circumstances.<br />

(W/0003/X)<br />

389<br />

6b. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour is set too high<br />

and places too many<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <strong>on</strong> users<br />

A/0927/X, A/0437/X, A/0111/X,<br />

A/0908/X, B/0772/X, G/0854/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1044/X, J/1284/X,<br />

Q/0930/X, W/0034/X, W/0792/X,<br />

W/0781/X, W/1040/X, W/1018/X,<br />

W/1370/.<br />

It is important that <strong>the</strong>se paragraphs are clear, accurate, coherent and open to as little<br />

variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> interpretati<strong>on</strong> as possible. Although this questi<strong>on</strong> uses <strong>the</strong> phrase "causing<br />

harm or loss" this terminology is not included within <strong>the</strong> text… yet… is a useful c<strong>on</strong>cept if<br />

prefaced by quantifiable... There should be greater clarity <strong>on</strong> "normal wear and tear"<br />

which is a comp<strong>on</strong>ent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any activity, including land management... For both "damage"<br />

and "disturbance" <strong>the</strong> word "significant" could be a useful precursor. (A/0927/X)<br />

.. The Code would appear to be unduly restrictive in relati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog owners<br />

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6c. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour is set too low<br />

with not enough<br />

obligati<strong>on</strong>s placed <strong>on</strong><br />

users<br />

A/0422/X, A/0163/X, A/0871/X,<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0320/X/d, A/0346/X,<br />

B/0226/X, B/0085/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0918/X, B/0116/X/d, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0462/X, B/0512/X/d, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0801/X, B/0839/X, B/0858/X,<br />

B/0874/X, B/0798/X, B/0788/X,<br />

B/0671/X, B/0755/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/1117/X, B/1117/X, B/1096/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1093/X, B/1083/X/d,<br />

B/1078/X, B/0970/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/0685/X, B/0741/X, B/0565/X,<br />

B/1347/X, B/1231/X, B/0995/X,<br />

B/0996/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0305/X,<br />

B/0345/X, E/0086/X, E/0921/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/1038/X, E/0351/X,<br />

F/1050/X, G/0040/X, G/0831/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0615/X, H/0310/X,<br />

H/0988/X, H/0534/X, H/0941/X,<br />

H/0959/X, J/1051/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1058/X, L/0125/X, L/0527/X,<br />

P/0928/X, P/0890/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/1275/X, Q/0157/X, Q/1286/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, V/0245/X, V/0245/X,<br />

V/0245/X, V/0245/X, W/0052/X,<br />

W/0173/X, W/0881/X, W/0130/X/d,<br />

W/0100/d, W/0812/Y, W/0780/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/1170/X, W/1139/X,<br />

W/1119/X, W/1112/X, W/1085/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/1289/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/1318/X, W/1223/X, W/0990/X/d,<br />

W/1001/X/d, W/1023/X, W/1024/X,<br />

W/1373/, X/0122/X, X/0149/X,<br />

X/0939/X.<br />

and this would seem to be in c<strong>on</strong>tradicti<strong>on</strong> with <strong>the</strong> tenor <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act. (G/1044/X)<br />

I think it is set too high. … People should use <strong>the</strong>ir comm<strong>on</strong> sense and not have to look<br />

up in a legal document whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong>y can walk al<strong>on</strong>g a path in <strong>the</strong> rain and not be liable<br />

for <strong>the</strong> slight damage <strong>the</strong>y may cause to <strong>the</strong> path. (1370)<br />

Not emphasised enough that repeating damage and disturbance to stock and wildlife<br />

has a cumulative effect. (A/0320/X/d).<br />

Overall I c<strong>on</strong>sider that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code's test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is set too low.<br />

Although it recognises that different types or volume <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> usage will cause varying levels <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

damage this requires greater emphasis. Horses or cyclists will cause greater levels <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

damage than a single walker. The Code recognises this but fails to explain that this can<br />

occur <strong>on</strong> relatively firm ground for example by a horse cantering. .... It would be helpful if<br />

<strong>the</strong> Code explicitly stated that where access would cause damage or disturbance <strong>the</strong><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible course <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> acti<strong>on</strong> would be to seek an alternative route or refrain from<br />

exercising access rights. (A/0346/X)<br />

3.6 is far too woolly and gives no protecti<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> land or <strong>the</strong> land manager's interests.<br />

…… Successive disturbance by different individuals or groups to land management<br />

activities is unreas<strong>on</strong>able and should be avoided by <strong>the</strong> first <strong>on</strong>es waiting. (B/1094/X)<br />

The test is set far too low, and <strong>the</strong> land manager has to be given <strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> doubt<br />

in order to allow whatever activity <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> land he is supervising to c<strong>on</strong>tinue, whilst <strong>the</strong><br />

public have access. (B/1083/X/d)<br />

The Code should require resp<strong>on</strong>sible use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> countryside to include giving <strong>on</strong>es true<br />

name and address to a land manager if so required, preferably supported by some I.D<br />

and vice versa <strong>the</strong> land manager should give his name and address to an access taker.<br />

(E/0086/X)<br />

...it is important to emphasise that <strong>the</strong> expectati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour does not<br />

lapse because a user is <strong>on</strong> land not covered by <strong>the</strong> statutory right. (G/0831/X)<br />

There should be a presumpti<strong>on</strong> written into <strong>the</strong> Code that where paths are available or<br />

signposted, <strong>the</strong>y should be used. (P/0890/X)<br />

Exercising access rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. It must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear in <strong>the</strong> code that<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour means <strong>the</strong> loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights and paragraphs 3.2 & 3.3<br />

should be tightened up to reflect this. (W/1139/X)<br />

The code must make it clear that any form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> irresp<strong>on</strong>sible, discourteous or<br />

inc<strong>on</strong>siderate behaviour <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> individuals or groups automatically disqualifies<br />

<strong>the</strong>m from <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access and that <strong>the</strong>y can be required to leave or denied fur<strong>the</strong>r<br />

access. (W/0566/X)<br />

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6d. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour is unclear<br />

6e. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour should be<br />

different<br />

A/0253/X/d, A/0253/X/d, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0442/X, A/0163/X, A/0796/X/d,<br />

A/0319/X, A/0362/X, B/0181/X,<br />

B/0455/X, B/0459/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0510/X, B/0622/X,<br />

B/0660/X, B/0794/X, B/0783/X/d,<br />

B/0754/X, B/1075/X, B/1072/X,<br />

B/1072/X, B/1173/X, B/1094/X,<br />

B/1078/X, B/0980/X, B/0663/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/1250/X, B/0545/X,<br />

B/1309/X, B/1306/X/d, B/1240/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0409/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0294/X, B/1375/,<br />

D/1340/X, E/0523/X, E/0516/X,<br />

E/1038/X, E/1113/X, G/0082/X/d,<br />

G/0917/X, G/0132/X, G/0441/X,<br />

G/1192/X, G/0960/X, G/0973/X,<br />

G/1254/X, H/0460/X, H/0515/X,<br />

H/0497/X, H/0808/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/1327/X, J/1255/X,<br />

J/1203/X, K/0444/X, K/1302/X,<br />

K/1241/X, L/0513/X, P/0804/X /,<br />

P/0640/X, P/0869/X, P/1060/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/0287/X, P/0576/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0974/X,<br />

Q/1308/X, Q/0309/X, V/1071/X,<br />

W/0221/X, W/0246/X, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0457/X, W/0926/X,<br />

W/0529/X, W/0641/X, W/0857/X,<br />

W/0771/X, W/0649/X, W/1163/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1112/X, W/1109/X,<br />

W/0735/X, W/0708/X/d, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1337/, W/1227/X/d, W/1001/X/d,<br />

W/0359/X, W/1235/X, X/1171/X,<br />

X/1188/X, X/0727/X, X/1212/X.<br />

A/0155/X, A/1070/X/d, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0933/X, B/0054/X, B/0218/X,<br />

B/0218/X, B/0218/X, B/0436/X,<br />

B/0270/X, B/0772/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/1347/X, E/0523/X,<br />

We believe this should include <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> defined paths where marked. Resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour requires to be more clearly defined, specifically with regards golf and sport in<br />

general. (B/0459/X)<br />

…<strong>the</strong>re is no menti<strong>on</strong> at all in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> children ….. There should be guidance for<br />

parents and guidance <strong>on</strong> what <strong>the</strong> Land Manager can do if unaccompanied or badly<br />

supervised children are doing damage or going into danger. (B/1094/X)<br />

Too low. ….. level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> knowledge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crop or animal husbandry insufficient for <strong>the</strong>m to<br />

make judgements about <strong>the</strong>ir own safety or <strong>the</strong> level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> damage <strong>the</strong>y may cause<br />

(B/0404/X).<br />

"Damage" is clear,……."Disturbance" less so…….This is much more open to<br />

interpretati<strong>on</strong> and hence c<strong>on</strong>flict, so some firmer and clearer examples would help.<br />

(G/0960/X)<br />

We do not feel that <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is sufficiently defined….There must<br />

be a presumpti<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> access taker must avoid all situati<strong>on</strong>s whereby his or her<br />

presence causes, or is likely to cause disturbance, alarm or damage. (Q/1178/X)<br />

Here it is stated that a pers<strong>on</strong>'s behaviour is acceptable if <strong>on</strong>e "does not interfere<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>ably with <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r people". It seems to me that individual people may<br />

each put a different interpretati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> word "unreas<strong>on</strong>ably"…. I w<strong>on</strong>der whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong><br />

general public are sufficiently knowledgeable to know exactly what sort <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "extra care"<br />

<strong>the</strong>y require to take not to damage, say, <strong>the</strong> High Cairngorms? (W/1163/X)<br />

This is not acceptable as it really gives a green flag to disturbances to wildlife and<br />

animals. It is so vague as to render it useless practically to protect wildlife and animals.<br />

(W/0735/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is too heavily weighted towards those who<br />

make <strong>the</strong>ir living in <strong>the</strong> countryside and should be broadened to include c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong><br />

interests. (L/0659/X)<br />

The test for unreas<strong>on</strong>able behaviour is surely quite specific. Behaviour is not<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible if it is not in compliance with <strong>the</strong> recommendati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Access Code<br />

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E/7065/X, E/0703/X, G/0759/X,<br />

G/1099/X, H/1348/X, J/1203/X,<br />

L/0659/X, N/0694/X, P/0287/X,<br />

P/0548/X, P/1218/X, P/1237/X,<br />

Q/0501/X/d, Q/0707/X, R/1278/X,<br />

V/0245/X, W/0434/X, W/0457/X,<br />

W/0848/X, W/0699/X, W/1315/,<br />

X/0405/X/d.<br />

which are comprehensive and understandable. (Q/0501/X/d)<br />

6f. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0919/X, A/0397/X/d, B/0925/X,<br />

B/0120/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0254/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0613/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/0574/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/1271/X, B/0937/X, G/0917/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, G/1098/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1291/X, G/1229/X, G/1214/X,<br />

H/0915/X, H/0310/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1284/X, K/1241/X, L/0113/X,<br />

L/1055/X, L/1026/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0899/X, P/0287/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/1122/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, R/0868/X, R/1278/X,<br />

V/0975/X, V/1228/X, W/0119/X,<br />

W/0414/X, W/0619/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/1085/X, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1217/X, X/1174/X, X/0099/X.<br />

Exercising rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly seems to c<strong>on</strong>centrate <strong>on</strong> behaviour as between users…<br />

and land managers. This emphasis is probably reas<strong>on</strong>able but not to <strong>the</strong> extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

ignoring <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r users. Difficulties <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten occur between mountain bikers and<br />

walkers and between horse riders and o<strong>the</strong>r users but no advice <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour as it affects <strong>the</strong>se users seems to have been <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fered. (G/0917/X)<br />

Commercial groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> canoeists or horse-riders regularly using <strong>the</strong> same stretch <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> river<br />

or path will create more disturbance and possible damage and so this needs to be<br />

reflected in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible acccess. Also highlight that resp<strong>on</strong>sible access will<br />

vary with seas<strong>on</strong>s and wea<strong>the</strong>r c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s. (P/0899/X)<br />

The examples given <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour in relati<strong>on</strong> to disturbance appear<br />

somewhat trivial. Better examples should be selected for example involving specific<br />

agricultural and forestry activities. (V/0975/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

There was a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour for those exercising access rights. Although a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> said <strong>the</strong> test<br />

was set about right, o<strong>the</strong>rs, particularly from land managing interests, said it was too low, and sought amendments, whilst a few resp<strong>on</strong>dents thought that<br />

<strong>the</strong> test was set too high. However, a large proporti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments also indicated that <strong>the</strong> test was unclear and that better examples should be given <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

situati<strong>on</strong>s in which it was critical that users behaved resp<strong>on</strong>sibly.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Streng<strong>the</strong>ning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> test was sought in relati<strong>on</strong> to matters such as:<br />

• making people aware that <strong>the</strong>y could be c<strong>on</strong>tributing to cumulative damage;<br />

• improving definiti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "disturbance" and "wear and tear"; and<br />

• placing more emphasis <strong>on</strong> paths being used, particularly in enclosed land.<br />

At <strong>the</strong> same time, a few resp<strong>on</strong>dents thought that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was unduly restrictive <strong>on</strong> dog walkers. These comments advanced a preference for more<br />

reliance <strong>on</strong> comm<strong>on</strong> sense as opposed to detailed guidance.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

Although <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code reflects many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se comments, <strong>the</strong> temptati<strong>on</strong> to overburden this secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code with too much detail has been<br />

resisted because <strong>the</strong> overall test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is derived from resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities described in Part 3.<br />

Key changes to <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code include highlighting:<br />

• that people fall outwith access rights if <strong>the</strong>y do not behave resp<strong>on</strong>sibly;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> benefits <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> using paths where <strong>the</strong>y exist, both for users and for land managers; and<br />

• examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what c<strong>on</strong>stitutes unreas<strong>on</strong>able interference in <strong>the</strong> exercise <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights such as dogs worrying livestock, damage to fences or walls,<br />

blocking field gates with vehicles, and hindering harvesting or crop spraying.<br />

In making <strong>the</strong>se changes, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code strives to maintain its balance by indicating that:<br />

• access rights in most places will apply <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f paths just as much as <strong>on</strong> paths; and<br />

• some disturbance will be inevitable but explaining better <strong>the</strong> point at which this might become unreas<strong>on</strong>able.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 7 - Does <strong>the</strong> guidance emphasise enough that <strong>the</strong> outdoors cannot be hazard-free,<br />

and that people should be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong>ir own acti<strong>on</strong>s?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

7a. Yes – <strong>the</strong> emphasis is<br />

correct<br />

A/0009/X, A/0442/X, A/0471/X/d,<br />

A/0477/X, A/0518/X, A/0825/X,<br />

A/1037/X, A/1037/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/0319/X, B/0028/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0525/X/d, B/0842/X, B/0772/X,<br />

B/1350/X, B/0288/X/d, D/0521/X,<br />

D/1340/X, E/0703/X, E/1246/X,<br />

G/0043/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/Y/,<br />

G/0114/X, G/0468/X, G/0806/X,<br />

G/0785/X, G/1330/X/d, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0439/X, P/0890/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0576/X, P/0384/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0264/X, Q/0501/X/d,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/0697/X/d, Q/1308/X,<br />

R/0868/X, U/0922/X, V/1071/X,<br />

V/1228/X, W/0003/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/0246/X, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/1032/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/0675/X, W/1310/X/d, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0944/X, W/0391/X, W/1370/,<br />

X/1174/X, X/1385/X, X/1339/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

The code correctly emphasises that people should be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong>ir own acti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

in <strong>the</strong> countryside. (A/0471/X/d)<br />

People must be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong>ir own safety. (B/0842/X)<br />

We are pleased to see that <strong>the</strong> guidance does emphasise that <strong>the</strong> countryside cannot be<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> a hazard free area. (E/0703/X)<br />

The wording in SOAC and <strong>the</strong> Act should be sufficient to guide <strong>the</strong> courts. (P/0890/X)<br />

Yes, <strong>the</strong> guidance does adequately emphasise that <strong>the</strong> countryside cannot be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

hazard free etc. (W/0003/X)<br />

Yes and an important secti<strong>on</strong> (W/0021/X)<br />

432<br />

7b. No B/0054/X, B/0226/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0755/X, B/0565/X, B/0406/X,<br />

E/0616/X, G/1099/X, H/0310/X,<br />

M/0438/X, P/0642/X, P/0643/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, Q/0686/X, V/0207/X,<br />

W/0130/X/d, W/0100/d, W/0529/X,<br />

W/0812/Y, W/0143/X, W/1235/X,<br />

W/1373/, X/0495/X.<br />

Paragraph 3.9 includes guidance that access users should take resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

own acti<strong>on</strong>s… However, it is felt that this should be expanded. (P/0642/X)<br />

No - this secti<strong>on</strong> is lightweight. (Q/0526/X)<br />

No, this needs to be heavily stressed. (W/0529/X)<br />

7c. No - needs less<br />

emphasis<br />

B/218/X, G/0917/X, G/1099/X,<br />

W/182/X.<br />

It is not possible to erect sufficient signs to warn people <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> dangers that occur in <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside. One <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> joys <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walking in <strong>the</strong> countryside is that <strong>on</strong>e is not c<strong>on</strong>tinuously<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>ted by signage which <strong>on</strong>ly leads <strong>on</strong>e to feel that we are part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a "Nanny State"!<br />

(B/1126/X)<br />

What is to be avoided is any tendency to make <strong>the</strong> outdoors 'dangerous'. A simple<br />

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7d. No - needs more<br />

emphasis<br />

A/0219/X, A/0927/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0469/X, A/0163/X,<br />

A/0636/X, A/0658/X/d, A/0796/X/d,<br />

A/1194/X, A/0723/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0537/X, A/0320/X/d, A/0346/X,<br />

A/0362/X, A/0958/X, A/0320/X/d,<br />

B/0012/X, B/0178/X, B/0238/X,<br />

B/0254/X, B/0260/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0058/X, B/0131/X, B/0120/X,<br />

B/0275/X, B/0282/X, B/0459/X,<br />

B/0461/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0467/X,<br />

B/0470/X, B/0476/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0512/X/d, B/0634/X, B/0631/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0782/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0834/X, B/0839/X, B/0840/X,<br />

B/0859/X, B/0860/X, B/0861/X,<br />

B/0876/X, B/0794/X, B/0754/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0613/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/1033/X, B/1049/X, B/1075/X,<br />

B/1072/X, B/1173/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/1145/X, B/1144/X,<br />

B/1142/X, B/1126/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/1117/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1108/X,<br />

B/1104/X, B/1094/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1078/X, B/1129/X,<br />

B/1197/X, B/1195/X, B/1190/X,<br />

B/1181/X, B/1019/X, B/0663/X,<br />

B/0662/X, B/1267/X/d, B/0704/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/1288/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0538/X, B/1347/X, B/1328/X,<br />

B/1309/X, B/1240/X, B/0994/X,<br />

B/1027/X, B/0300/X/d, B/0306/X,<br />

B/0326/X, B/0338/X/d, B/0376/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0409/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/0935/X, B/0937/X, B/0942/X/d,<br />

D/0022/X, D/0248/X, E/0921/X,<br />

E/0923/X, E/0514/X, E/0516/X,<br />

E/0616/X, G/0132/X, G/0146/X,<br />

statement, 'Some recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities are inheritantly risky' would be adequate.<br />

(G/0917/X)<br />

While accepting that <strong>the</strong> countryside cannot and should not be risk free, <strong>the</strong>re may be an<br />

excepti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> hidden man <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> hazards, eg a narrow aqueduct overgrown by<br />

hea<strong>the</strong>r, which could be a serious hazard. Such excepti<strong>on</strong> would not include obvious<br />

man <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> features eg bridges, where <strong>the</strong> access taker should make a judgement as to<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir soundness. (A/0098/X)<br />

This is a key c<strong>on</strong>cern to us as land managers: it should have a greater emphasis, both in<br />

its locati<strong>on</strong> and in its expressi<strong>on</strong>. (B/1288/X)<br />

It is important to make <strong>the</strong> point that <strong>the</strong> countryside is not risk-free. This is <strong>on</strong>e secti<strong>on</strong><br />

that should be expanded … and must include reference to children, young people and<br />

informati<strong>on</strong> for parents/guardians etc. who are resp<strong>on</strong>sible for children and young<br />

people. (B/0574/X)<br />

The Code must be more forceful in advising those that take access to do so at <strong>the</strong>ir own<br />

risk and while <strong>the</strong> land owner may have a reas<strong>on</strong>able duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care, he is not bound by<br />

any greater liability than before <strong>the</strong> new legislati<strong>on</strong>. (B/0481/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong>re should be str<strong>on</strong>ger emphasis in <strong>the</strong> Code <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> fact that people take access at<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir own risk. The guiding principles currently make reference to taking resp<strong>on</strong>sibility<br />

for your own acti<strong>on</strong>s, which is re-emphasised in paragraph 3.9. Nei<strong>the</strong>r <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>s make explicit reference, however, to <strong>the</strong> fact that those taking access do so at<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir own risk. (G/1226/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re should be a clear statement in <strong>the</strong> Code that <strong>the</strong> extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care owed<br />

by an occupier <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land to ano<strong>the</strong>r pers<strong>on</strong> (as laid down in previous legislati<strong>on</strong>) is not<br />

affected by this Act. … land managers should be discouraged from being overly<br />

protective <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> natural hazards that <strong>the</strong> public may well choose to<br />

engage with if <strong>the</strong>y are undertaking risky activities <strong>on</strong> an owner's land or water.<br />

(G/1291/X)<br />

The potential hazards listed should be extended bey<strong>on</strong>d natural features such as cliffs<br />

and rivers to man-<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> structures, even though <strong>the</strong>se are <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land<br />

manager, from <strong>the</strong> premise that avoidance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> injury is more important than questi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

culpability. Potential dangers from livestock should also be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> explicit. (P/1239/X).<br />

3.9 This secti<strong>on</strong> could be streng<strong>the</strong>ned to make it quite clear that <strong>the</strong>re can be no case<br />

for a land manager/owner being sued if eg a gate breaks when being climbed and <strong>the</strong><br />

pers<strong>on</strong> breaks a leg. Access must be at your own risk. (Q/0499/X)<br />

….<strong>the</strong> code document needs to state explicitly that people take access at <strong>the</strong>ir own<br />

risk…… ..if <strong>the</strong> code document states explicitly that people take access at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk,<br />

or alternatively quotes Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act, this will help to alleviate c<strong>on</strong>cerns land<br />

managers have with liability and <strong>the</strong> subsequent c<strong>on</strong>cern that land managers will limit<br />

access because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se c<strong>on</strong>cerns....... ..reference to taking access at your own risk in<br />

<strong>the</strong> code document will also be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> benefit to users who are generally unlikely to be aware<br />

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G/1098/X, G/1099/X, G/0960/X,<br />

G/0973/X, G/0698/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/1251/X, G/1291/X, G/1226/X,<br />

G/0379/X, H/0220/X, H/0894/X,<br />

H/0515/X, H/0615/X, H/0807/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/1103/X, H/1042/X,<br />

H/0988/X, H/0674/X, H/1348/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/0949/X, H/1196/X,<br />

J/1051/X, J/1058/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1203/X, K/0444/X, L/0410/X,<br />

L/0527/X, L/0659/X, M/0454/X,<br />

M/0687/X, P/0491/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0804/X, P/0642/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/1060/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/1247/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/0316/X, P/1237/X, P/1239/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/1273/X, P/1275/X,<br />

P/1275/X, Q/0251/X, Q/0073/X,<br />

Q/0930/X, Q/0893/X, Q/0445/X,<br />

Q/0517/X, Q/0499/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, R/1278/X, R/0549/X,<br />

U/1172/X, V/0245/X, V/0851/X,<br />

V/0914/X, V/0398/X/d, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0034/X, W/0056/X/d, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0214/X, W/0217/X, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0083/X, W/0071/X, W/0434/X,<br />

W/0490/X, W/0880/X/d, W/0124/X,<br />

W/0108/X/d, W/0261/X, W/0277/X,<br />

W/0278/X, W/0411/X, W/0412/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0112/X, W/0511/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0780/X, W/0843/X,<br />

W/0855/X, W/0901/X/d, W/0898/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0770/X/d, W/0614/X,<br />

W/1031/X, W/1052/X/d, W/1053/X,<br />

W/1170/X, W/1189/X, W/1159/X/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1151/X, W/1141/X,<br />

W/1130/X, W/1112/X, W/1110/X,<br />

W/1109/X, W/1102/X/d, W/0972/X,<br />

W/0979/X, W/1016/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0720/X, W/0699/X, W/1289/X,<br />

that <strong>the</strong>y are taking access at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk. (R/1278/X)<br />

In taking resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for <strong>on</strong>e's own acti<strong>on</strong>s while seeking access, <strong>the</strong> code should state<br />

that land managers are not liable for an individual's well being, <strong>the</strong> existing duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care<br />

not being affected by <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003.<br />

(W/1109/X)<br />

There should be str<strong>on</strong>ger emphasis <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> access taker c<strong>on</strong>sidering <strong>the</strong> nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> man<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> hazards eg using an old bridge, expect to encounter farm machinery <strong>on</strong> a farm<br />

track and <strong>the</strong>refore reduce cycling speed etc. There should be an expectati<strong>on</strong> that<br />

hazards can be met anywhere and that access is taken subject to <strong>the</strong> normal workings<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> countryside. Without this very clearly stated <strong>the</strong> land manager’s liability will<br />

increase. (W/1112/X)<br />

The code does not emphasise sufficiently <strong>the</strong> dangers and should require that people<br />

take resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for <strong>the</strong>ir own acti<strong>on</strong>s. If <strong>the</strong>y fall into natural hazards, over cliffs, into<br />

lochs etc, <strong>the</strong>y should be resp<strong>on</strong>sible and not <strong>the</strong> land manager. It should be explicitly<br />

stated that land managers should not erect signs, such as "Danger Slippery Grass, Peat<br />

Hags, Deep Water, Friable Rock", or <strong>the</strong> countryside will be ruined. (W/1110/X)<br />

The public should use <strong>the</strong> countryside but <strong>the</strong>y should do so entirely at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk<br />

and this needs to be more clearly emphasised in your code and backed up by law. If<br />

this is not d<strong>on</strong>e it will be hard to expect land occupiers to be welcoming. (W/0297/X).<br />

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W/1287/X, W/1264/X, W/1329/X,<br />

W/1325/X, W/1324/, W/1318/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/1227/X/d, W/1217/X,<br />

W/0991/X, W/1000/X, W/1007/X,<br />

W/0297/X, W/0318/X, W/0348/X/d,<br />

W/0950/X/d, W/0955/X, W/0957/X,<br />

W/0403/X, W/1367/, W/1360/,<br />

W/1359/X, X/0896/X, X/0122/X,<br />

X/0639/X, X/0784/X, X/0811/X,<br />

X/1067/X, X/0099/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/1298/X, X/1298/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/0939/X.<br />

7e. No - needs more<br />

guidance <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility<br />

for damage<br />

A/0133/X, A/0740/X, B/0238/X,<br />

B/0260/X, B/0085/X, B/0891/X,<br />

B/0885/X, B/0879/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0142/X, B/0624/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0837/X, B/1072/X, B/1146/X,<br />

B/1096/X, B/1195/X, B/0970/X,<br />

B/0980/X, B/1240/X, B/1009/X,<br />

B/1234/X, B/0937/X, E/0924/X,<br />

E/0351/X, H/1179/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1255/X, M/0852/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/1300/X, Q/1122/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

W/0001/X, W/0173/X, W/0080/X,<br />

W/0277/X, W/0962/X/d, W/0971/X,<br />

W/0986/X, W/1014/X, W/0947/X/d,<br />

X/0128/X, X/0637/X.<br />

Must make more emphasis <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> dangers in <strong>the</strong> countryside especially with livestock <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

all types in enclosed farmland .... As well as <strong>the</strong> land owners having public liability<br />

insurance, walkers should do likewise. (A/0320/X/d).<br />

Paragraph 3.9 ought to be streng<strong>the</strong>ned accordingly to emphasize that resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for<br />

an access taker's own acti<strong>on</strong>s extends (perhaps especially) to resp<strong>on</strong>sibility to o<strong>the</strong>rs,<br />

whe<strong>the</strong>r access takers or providers. (B/1195/X)<br />

If animals take flight jumping and/or damaging fences and/or sustaining injury when<br />

some<strong>on</strong>e is in or by a field, I believe that <strong>the</strong>y are resp<strong>on</strong>sible for immediately notifying<br />

<strong>the</strong> owner or caretaker <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> animals. (B/1146/X)<br />

It is not sufficient simply to say that access users accept that <strong>the</strong> countryside is a<br />

hazardous place and use <strong>the</strong>ir Rights under this Act at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk. A clear statement,<br />

with legislative force, is required to <strong>the</strong> effect that <strong>the</strong> liability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any land manager for<br />

negligence in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any road or structure eg bridges or stiles, which may be used<br />

for public access should be limited <strong>on</strong>ly to <strong>the</strong> purposes for which such structures were<br />

created, ie for land management purposes <strong>on</strong>ly in most cases. (H/1179/X)<br />

No. We c<strong>on</strong>sider that very early in <strong>the</strong> Code, if not at its very start, it must be<br />

emphatically stated that those taking access are (not should be) totally resp<strong>on</strong>sible for<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir own acti<strong>on</strong>s, and that under Scot's Law <strong>the</strong>y have a duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care to <strong>the</strong>mselves and<br />

to o<strong>the</strong>r people. (J/1058/X)<br />

People who would like to take resp<strong>on</strong>sible access must be encouraged to take insurance<br />

cover for all eventualities. (M/0852/X)<br />

Clarificati<strong>on</strong> is required in detail, for access takers indicating what <strong>the</strong>ir legal liability is for<br />

anything that may befall <strong>the</strong>m as a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir own negligence or recklessness.<br />

(P/1300/X)<br />

No ……. The Code should put maximum emphasis <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> need for people to be<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible not <strong>on</strong>ly for <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s but also for <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>mselves and o<strong>the</strong>rs.<br />

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7f. O<strong>the</strong>r A/0098/X, A/0821/X/d, A/0838/X,<br />

A/1084/X, A/0740/X, A/0726/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0819/X, B/0966/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/0305/X, B/0937/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, G/0189/X, G/0759/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1057/X, G/1214/X,<br />

K/0722/X, P/0548/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1275/X, Q/0024/X, Q/1286/X,<br />

W/0789/X, W/0780/X, W/1023/X,<br />

W/1119/X, W/0708/X/d.<br />

(Q/1122/X)<br />

The public should use <strong>the</strong> countryside entirely at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk and, in <strong>the</strong> case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

mountaineers particularly, <strong>the</strong>re is no reas<strong>on</strong> why <strong>the</strong>y should not carry <strong>the</strong>ir own<br />

insurance, perhaps through <strong>the</strong>ir household policies. (W/0962/X/d)<br />

The last sentence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this paragraph is not appropriate in this secti<strong>on</strong> and should be<br />

removed. (B/0937/X).<br />

3.9 Recommend that <strong>the</strong> words in bold be replaced by '…and remember that you al<strong>on</strong>e<br />

are resp<strong>on</strong>sible for your own acti<strong>on</strong>s.' … delete <strong>the</strong> final sentence; as <strong>draft</strong>ed , it leaves<br />

SNH wide open to criticism for failing to set out almost anything not in <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

(W/1023/X)<br />

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Supplementary Comments – Issues raised <strong>on</strong> Liability<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Issues raised:<br />

A/0373/X, A/0105/X, A/0320/X/d,<br />

A/1194/X, A/0537/X, A/0927/X,<br />

Land managers should<br />

A/0636/X, A/0219/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

not be liable / recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

A/0726/X, B/0005/X, B/0032/X,<br />

users should accept<br />

B/0038/X, B/0068/X, B/0069/X,<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibility<br />

B/0076/X, B/0045/Z, B/0051/X,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0058/X, B/0136/X,<br />

B/0152/X, B/0342/X, B/0343/X,<br />

B/0353/X, B/0355/X, B/0356/X,<br />

B/0366/X, B/0371/X, B/0375/X,<br />

B/0376/X, B/0385/X/d, B/0396/X/d,<br />

B/0626/X, B/0628/X, B/0631/X,<br />

B/0638/X/d, B/0653/X, B/0648/X,<br />

B/0654/X, B/0117/X, B/0081/X,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0184/X, B/0186/X,<br />

B/0519/X, B/0528/X, B/0338/X/d,<br />

B/0275/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0280/X,<br />

B/0284/X, B/0285/X, B/0293/X,<br />

B/0303/X, B/0322/X, B/0326/X,<br />

B/0331/X, B/0845/X, B/0859/X,<br />

B/0861/X, B/1181/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/1190/X, B/1195/X, B/1197/X,<br />

B/1200/X, B/0535/X, B/0545/X,<br />

B/0564/X, B/0662/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/0678/X, B/0680/X, B/1009/X,<br />

B/1017/X, B/1019/X, B/1027/X,<br />

Recreati<strong>on</strong>al users should B/1341/Z/d, B/0238/X, B/0249/X/d,<br />

be insured, and related B/0254/X, B/0257/X, B/0258/X,<br />

views<br />

B/0260/X, B/0211/X, B/0215/X,<br />

B/1368/X/d, B/0462/X, B/0956/X,<br />

B/1301/X, B/1309/X, B/1313/X,<br />

B/1328/X, B/0443/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/1207/X, B/1208/X, B/1210/X,<br />

B/1216/X, B/1236/X, B/1238/X,<br />

B/1244/X, B/1253/X, B/1262/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/1271/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/1292/X, B/1295/X, B/0801/X,<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

I would c<strong>on</strong>sider that we are resp<strong>on</strong>sible for our own safety and <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a<br />

culture <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> litigati<strong>on</strong> is avoided. (A/0219/X)<br />

I am quite happy with <strong>the</strong> bill, and access, provided that it is clear that people enter<br />

agricultural land at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk, and we are not resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

(B/0005/X).<br />

It is our c<strong>on</strong>tenti<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for spelling out <strong>the</strong> danger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> exercising <strong>the</strong><br />

right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access <strong>on</strong> particular types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ground e.g. farms and golf courses falls <strong>on</strong> those<br />

who make <strong>the</strong> Access Code law i.e. <strong>the</strong> Government. If that is not d<strong>on</strong>e we can forsee,<br />

in <strong>the</strong> event <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> injury or death, a legal basis for counter claims. (B/0519/X).<br />

I feel <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament should accept liability for any injury caused to <strong>the</strong> public.<br />

(B/1200/X).<br />

Litigati<strong>on</strong> will be brought over cases <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> accident, injury and death which will generally<br />

place intolerable burdens <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care <strong>on</strong> land owners and managers, with no comeback<br />

financially. (B/0970/X)<br />

Safety and public liability are major c<strong>on</strong>cerns for land managers as a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>. (B/0613/X)<br />

Unless negligence <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a third party is involved and can be proven, resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

access should include acceptance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> inherent risks, especially in today's litigious<br />

society. (H/0674/X)<br />

While <strong>the</strong>re is emphasis <strong>on</strong> people having to accept resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for <strong>the</strong>ir own acti<strong>on</strong>s it<br />

is surprising that no commensurate emphasis nor even menti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people being<br />

held liable for <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sequences <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se acti<strong>on</strong>s. SANA c<strong>on</strong>siders that equal emphasis<br />

should be given to <strong>the</strong> liability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those using access. (J/1255/X)<br />

The Bill states that <strong>the</strong>re will be no additi<strong>on</strong>al liability <strong>on</strong> landowners. The Code does not<br />

put enough emphasis <strong>on</strong> people taking access AT THEIR OWN RISK. (P/0890/X)<br />

I would suggest that <strong>the</strong> Code should advise access takers to have pers<strong>on</strong>al liability<br />

insurance cover. This would corresp<strong>on</strong>d with land managers' public liability cover and<br />

could resolve loss or damage claims. (B/0338/X/d).<br />

People entering <strong>the</strong> countryside should be aware that it is at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk with <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>us<br />

for insurance being placed with <strong>the</strong>m. (B/1328/X).<br />

People should have to identify <strong>the</strong>mselves before <strong>the</strong>y embark <strong>on</strong> walks, cycle runs or<br />

horse rides so that damage d<strong>on</strong>e is accountable. (B/1101/X)<br />

I currently run a quad bike trail enterprise and I use my woodland as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> track.<br />

How would I stand if I came across a horse rider taking access through my woods and<br />

<strong>the</strong> horse bolted or kicked <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my clients <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> quad bikes?...I think anybody taking<br />

access should have his own insurance. (F/1124/X)<br />

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Land managers should<br />

not be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for<br />

maintaining infrastructure<br />

or informing <strong>the</strong> public <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

hazards<br />

Percepti<strong>on</strong> that duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

care up<strong>on</strong> land managers<br />

is increased<br />

B/0816/X, B/0827/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0837/X, B/0876/X, B/0883/X,<br />

B/0885/X, B/0891/X, B/0909/X,<br />

B/0925/X, B/0929/X, B/0938/X/d,<br />

B/1161/X, B/1164/X, B/1168/X,<br />

B/1173/X, B/1176/X, B/0983/X,<br />

B/0994/X, B/0933/X, B/0936/X,<br />

B/0938/X/d, B/0942/X/d, B/0953/X,<br />

B/0954/X, B/0964/X, B/0965/X/d,<br />

B/0969/X, B/0970/X, B/1063/X,<br />

B/1068/X, B/1075/X, B/1101/X,<br />

B/1107/X, B/1126/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0585/X, B/0592/X, B/0599/X/d,<br />

B/0606/X, B/0608/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0049/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0131/X, B/0226/X, B/0332/X,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0418/X, B/0413/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0506/X, B/0294/X<br />

B/0461/X, B/0404/X, B/0465/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0476/X, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0473/X/d, B/0683/X, B/0695/X,<br />

B/0704/X, B/1267/X/d, B/0711/X,<br />

B/0745/X, B/0754/X, B/0756/X,<br />

B/1365/X, B/0761/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/1046/X/d, B/1033/X, B/1133/X,<br />

B/1142/X, B/1144/X, B/1145/X,<br />

B/1147/X, B/1108/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

B/1117/X, B/1127/X/d, D/0521/X,<br />

D/0248/X, E/0616/X, E/0514/X,<br />

Landowners should not be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for stiles, bridges etc and should not be liable if<br />

some<strong>on</strong>e injures himself whilst crossing a poorly maintained bridge, stile etc.<br />

(A/0105/X).<br />

If access, paths, gates and o<strong>the</strong>r access facilities become a liability to <strong>the</strong> land manager<br />

this will be a disincentive to encourage more access or maintain existing access facilities<br />

(B/0443/X).<br />

We have c<strong>on</strong>cern about liability for gates and o<strong>the</strong>r structures. If people can go<br />

anywhere and climb over any gates, fences etc. this potentially puts a huge burden <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> estate to replace hundreds <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gates and o<strong>the</strong>r structures. It should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear<br />

that people should assess <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a route for <strong>the</strong>mselves, particularly when away<br />

from CPNs and RoWs. (B/1173/X).<br />

It is unreas<strong>on</strong>able to expect land managers to inform <strong>the</strong> public about every operati<strong>on</strong><br />

and its relative risks. It assumes <strong>the</strong> land manager may be liable in some way if he does<br />

not. (B/0371/X)<br />

..'provide paths'... Who is going to fund this and who takes resp<strong>on</strong>sibility in <strong>the</strong> event <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

an accident occurring if <strong>the</strong> sign is or is not in place? (X/0664/X).<br />

Our c<strong>on</strong>cern is that <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code is going to significantly increase<br />

our exposure to Public Liability claims <strong>on</strong>ce <strong>the</strong> public has <strong>the</strong> Right to access our land<br />

(B/0045/Z)<br />

The extra weight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care imposed <strong>on</strong> land managers by <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

pleasure seekers into <strong>the</strong>ir place <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> work is mammoth and totally out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> balance with <strong>the</strong><br />

meagre resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities and massive rights handed out to <strong>the</strong> accessors. (B/0058/X).<br />

It is also disingenuous to indicate that <strong>the</strong>re is no change in farmer's liability <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> basis<br />

that <strong>the</strong> same duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care remains with regard to <strong>the</strong> public. By way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> promoting much<br />

greater access both by day and by night <strong>the</strong> magnitude <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> that liability clearly increases.<br />

(B/0956/X).<br />

We understand land owners’ c<strong>on</strong>cerns about liability and insurance issues particularly if<br />

people are exercising <strong>the</strong>ir access rights <strong>on</strong> land where previously <strong>on</strong>ly limited access<br />

occurred. (P/0646/X)<br />

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C<strong>on</strong>cern about increased<br />

insurance premiums<br />

Specific c<strong>on</strong>cerns about<br />

accidents due to livestock<br />

Specific c<strong>on</strong>cerns about<br />

accidents due to faulty<br />

infrastructure<br />

E/0523/X, E/1243/X, E/1246/Y,<br />

E/1257/X, E/1074/X, E/0590/X,<br />

E/0590/X, E/0516/X, E/0703/X,<br />

E/0765/X, E/1113/X, F/0360/X,<br />

F/1124/X, F/1134/X, G/0040/X,<br />

G/0146/X, G/0657/X, G/1192/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1291/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/0960/X, G/0580/X, H/0370/X,<br />

H/0497/X, H/1196/X, H/0674/X,<br />

H/1276/X, H/0310/X, H/0808/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/0941/X, H/1118/X,<br />

H/0615/X, H/0220/X, H/0460/X,<br />

H/1042/X, H/1140/X, H/1128/X,<br />

J/1058/X, J/1255/X, K/0444/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0065/X, L/0647/X,<br />

L/0513/X, L/0747/X, M/0101/X,<br />

M/0852/X, M/0454/X, M/0687/X,<br />

M/0948/X, M/0438/X, M/0687/X,<br />

M/0734/X, P/0642/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0316/X, P/0384/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/1239/X, P/1296/X, P/1300/X,<br />

P/0890/X, P/0899/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0492/X, Q/0364/X,<br />

Q/0091/X, Q/0177/X, Q/0499/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/0517/X, Q/0304/X,<br />

Q/1184/X, Q/1185/X, Q/0251/X,<br />

Q/0256/X, Q/1252/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1286/X, Q/1299/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/1061/X, Q/0479/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

Q/0790/X, R/1221/X, R/1278/X,<br />

R/0763/X, U/1172/X, V/0398/X,<br />

V/0851/X, W/0001/X, W/0061/X,<br />

W/0064/X, W/0071/X, W/0080/X,<br />

W/0040/X, W/0056/X, W/0348/X/d,<br />

W/0367/X, W/0632/X, W/0635/X,<br />

W/0108/X, W/0083/X, W/0084/X,<br />

W/0180/X, W/0190/X, W/0159/X,<br />

We are also worried about <strong>the</strong> insurance issues. We are insured but <strong>the</strong> premiums have<br />

more than doubled in <strong>the</strong> last year al<strong>on</strong>e, with multiple c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s and disclaimers. This<br />

situati<strong>on</strong> is likely to get worse. (B/0068/X)<br />

It is not yet clear how this will affect insurance premiums but if <strong>the</strong> effect is adverse, we<br />

should be interested to know if landowners will be compensated. (B/0342/X)<br />

Whatever is finally decided should include some form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> nati<strong>on</strong>al insurance to protect<br />

farmers from claims <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> which are outside <strong>the</strong> scope <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> reas<strong>on</strong>able third party cover.<br />

(B/1164/X).<br />

That <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive have failed to address <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> potentially greater<br />

insurance premiums has created bad will and has d<strong>on</strong>e nothing to assist good relati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

between visitors and land managers. (E/1257/X).<br />

"Take resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for your own acti<strong>on</strong>s" is a plain statement, but nei<strong>the</strong>r this nor <strong>the</strong><br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> itself is sufficient to prevent insurance companies taking a precauti<strong>on</strong>ary<br />

approach and increasing <strong>the</strong> cost <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers’ insurance policies with respect to<br />

third party claims. (H/0808/X)<br />

Cows are very protective <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir calves and if threatened by a dog could turn quite<br />

nasty. Who would be to blame in such a scenario? (B/0396/X/d).<br />

It is simply not safe to wander through a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> suckler cows and calves with a dog, and<br />

any<strong>on</strong>e who does so must do it at <strong>the</strong>ir own risk. (B/0535/X)<br />

We put up sign posts 'Beware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Bull' and asked people to stay out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> fields<br />

where <strong>the</strong> bull was but again <strong>the</strong>y did not listen, what happens if any<strong>on</strong>e gets hurt.<br />

(B/0953/X).<br />

If a dog scares a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> young cattle and <strong>the</strong>y break through <strong>on</strong>e or two fences <strong>on</strong><br />

neighbouring properties who is liable for <strong>the</strong> repair? ……It would appear that <strong>the</strong>re will<br />

be cases where <strong>the</strong> owner/occupier is going to be involved in some ra<strong>the</strong>r large<br />

insurance claims. (H/1042/X)<br />

The bridges in particular should not be crossed by more than a few pers<strong>on</strong>s at a time<br />

and if <strong>the</strong> public are not supervised <strong>the</strong>n our Insurance company are unlikely to be<br />

willing to c<strong>on</strong>tinue cover as at present. (B/0343/X).<br />

Land Managers cannot be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> liable for accidents c<strong>on</strong>cerning natural features or<br />

comm<strong>on</strong>place items (such as barbed wire fences, ditches and bridges, livestock,<br />

manure, stacked timber or bales) which will be found <strong>on</strong> any foray into <strong>the</strong> countryside.<br />

(B/1271/X)<br />

...fur<strong>the</strong>r clarificati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> liability should be included to cover risk associated with access<br />

infrastructure, for example bridges or gates that may have been designed for land<br />

management purposes and not for multi-access use. (P/1219/X).<br />

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Specific c<strong>on</strong>cerns about<br />

accidents due to natural<br />

hazards<br />

W/0168/, W/0529/X, W/0262/X,<br />

W/0276/X, W/0277/X, W/0278/X,<br />

W/0297/X, W/0354/X/d, W/0855/X,<br />

W/0857/X, W/0554/X, W/0561/X,<br />

W/0566/X, W/0605/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0962/X/d, W/1008/X, W/1010/X,<br />

W/1012/X, W/1014/X, W/1020/X,<br />

W/1031/X, W/0212/X, W/1315/,<br />

W/1324/, W/0977/X/d, W/0979/X,<br />

W/0981/X, W/1224/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1264/X, W/1265/X, W/1280/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1289/X, W/0242/X,<br />

W/0261/X, W/1235/X, W/0817/X,<br />

W/0822/X, W/0836/X, W/0843/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, W/0881/X, W/0898/X,<br />

W/0903/X, W/1153/Z/d, W/1158/X,<br />

W/1159/X/d, W/1162/X, W/0991/X,<br />

W/0950/X/d, W/0957/X, W/1367/,<br />

W/0962/X/d, W/0971/X, W/1360/,<br />

W/1102/X/d, W/1119/X, W/0578/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0591/X, W/0612/X,<br />

W/0614/X, W/0124/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0402/X, W/0417/X, W/0412/X,<br />

W/0411/X, W/0435/X, W/0483/X,<br />

W/0464/X, W/0702/Y, W/0720/X,<br />

W/0735/X, W/0767/X, W/0778/X,<br />

W/0789/X, W/1048/X, W/1053/X,<br />

W/1135/X, W/1109/X, W/1110/X,<br />

W/1112/X, X/0639/X, X/0193/X/d,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0543/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/1212/X, X/1298/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0888/X, X/1174/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1092/X, X/0122/X, X/0128/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0727/X, X/1115/X.<br />

I am worried about children in <strong>the</strong> burn. It is easily deep enough for <strong>the</strong>m to drown.<br />

Would I <strong>the</strong>n be resp<strong>on</strong>sible? (B/0284/X).<br />

On a large estate, you cannot possibly know all <strong>the</strong> trees that might be dangerous to<br />

climb or tracks that may have ankle-wrenching potholes in <strong>the</strong>m. Never mind where<br />

<strong>the</strong>re may be natural lochs, p<strong>on</strong>ds, rivers and burns. Not a single <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se would<br />

normally be enclosed or fenced <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f. I str<strong>on</strong>gly urge for <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> liability to be properly<br />

clarified. (B/0876/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

The vast majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g>, particularly from land management interests, felt that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code did not adequately emphasise <strong>the</strong> need for users<br />

to take care and be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s. In c<strong>on</strong>trast, some comments did support <strong>the</strong> line taken in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code, and a few o<strong>the</strong>rs requested less<br />

emphasis <strong>on</strong> this issue, raising c<strong>on</strong>cerns that <strong>the</strong> outdoors might be portrayed as being dangerous and <strong>the</strong>reby discouraging people from exercising access<br />

rights, and possibly leading to a proliferati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signs reflecting an overcautious approach.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

The issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> taking resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for your own acti<strong>on</strong>s was <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> key issues raised in <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. This was reinforced by <strong>the</strong><br />

large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments, particularly from land management interests, seeking fur<strong>the</strong>r explanati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> liability and insurance requirements. These<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> were seeking:<br />

• more attenti<strong>on</strong> to be given to pers<strong>on</strong>al safety with “at your own risk” used instead <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> “taking resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for your own acti<strong>on</strong>s”;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> Code to restate <strong>the</strong> statutory positi<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> liability, duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care and health and safety obligati<strong>on</strong>s;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> inclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dangerous places, man-<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> hazards and dangerous livestock as well as natural hazards;<br />

• more emphasis <strong>on</strong> those exercising access rights being liable for losses and damages resulting from <strong>the</strong>ir own acti<strong>on</strong>s; and<br />

• greater clarity <strong>on</strong> when users and managers can be sued for <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

Opportunities for amendments in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code were limited by <strong>the</strong> following factors:<br />

• "taking resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for your own acti<strong>on</strong>s" is already <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> key principles presented at <strong>the</strong> start <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code cannot change <strong>the</strong> law <strong>on</strong> liability;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> term "at your own risk" would require a change in <strong>the</strong> law and Parliament has already rejected this; and<br />

• <strong>the</strong> liability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users for losses and damages depends <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> circumstances <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> each case and so <strong>the</strong> Code cannot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fer guidance <strong>on</strong> what <strong>the</strong> legal<br />

outcomes might be for different types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cases.<br />

These c<strong>on</strong>cerns have been addressed in part in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code by providing more explanati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this issue and emphasising that <strong>the</strong> outdoors cannot<br />

be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> risk free and that <strong>the</strong>re is a duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care <strong>on</strong> both land managers and users. The Proposed Code now includes:<br />

• a quote <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> relevant secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act, i.e. S5(2);<br />

• more reference to <strong>the</strong> Occupier's Liability (Scotland) Act, 1960 and <strong>the</strong> Health & Safety At Work Act, 1974;<br />

• reference to <strong>the</strong> duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care which <strong>the</strong> public have for o<strong>the</strong>rs;<br />

• a reference to children;<br />

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• <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dangerous and unpredictable livestock has been explained better;<br />

• more examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> n<strong>on</strong>-natural hazards, e.g., riding a bike or horse too fast and creating danger for o<strong>the</strong>r users; and<br />

• more emphasis and encouragement to follow signs and notices.<br />

In additi<strong>on</strong>, SNH will also work with <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive to provide fur<strong>the</strong>r clarity <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se issues.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 8 - Does <strong>the</strong> Code strike a sensible balance over giving people reas<strong>on</strong>able privacy<br />

and peace in <strong>the</strong>ir own home?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

8a. Yes – <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

strikes a sensible balance<br />

A/0009/X, A/0927/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0133/X, A/0425/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0469/X, A/0477/X, A/0821/X/d,<br />

A/0825/X, A/1037/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/1084/X, A/0968/X, A/0740/X,<br />

A/0723/X, A/0719/X/d, A/0319/X,<br />

A/0369/X/d, A/0958/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/0772/X, B/1114/X/d, B/0565/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0409/X, B/0937/X,<br />

D/0022/X, D/0093/X, E/0703/X,<br />

G/0189/X, G/0917/X, G/0114/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0785/X, G/0759/X,<br />

G/1057/X, G/1098/X, G/0960/X,<br />

G/0698/X, G/1254/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1226/X, G/1214/X, G/0379/X,<br />

H/0808/X, K/0444/X, K/1241/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0439/X, L/0410/X,<br />

P/0928/X, P/0869/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/1066/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/1272/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/1275/X, P/1275/X, P/1275/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0526/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, R/1278/X, U/1172/X,<br />

V/0207/X, W/0003/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0196/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0214/X, W/0246/X, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0490/X, W/0108/X/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0112/X, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0843/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0778/X, W/1032/X,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1130/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/1217/X, W/1007/X, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0391/X, W/1367/, W/1359/X,<br />

X/0896/X, X/0784/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/1212/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

In regard to measures <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> privacy and peace for people living in <strong>the</strong> countryside I feel that<br />

<strong>the</strong> Code does strike a sensible balance. (A/0369/X/d).<br />

Provides a sensible balance… Access in relati<strong>on</strong> to curtilage should not be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> more<br />

restrictive than that stated. (A/0927/X)<br />

493<br />

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8b. No – <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

not right<br />

B/0211/X, B/0167/X, B/0505/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0755/X, B/0782/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0731/X, B/0545/X,<br />

B/1306/X/d, B/1267/X/d, B/1356/,<br />

E/0616/X, H/0220/X, H/0941/X,<br />

E/0923/X, L/0747/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0576/X, P/0384/X,<br />

Q/0445/X, Q/0501/X/d, Q/0499/X,<br />

Q/0856/X, Q/1312/X, Q/1308/X,<br />

V/0851/X, W/0057/X, W/0429/X,<br />

W/0130/X/d, W/0926/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0649/X, W/0720/X,<br />

W/1316/, W/1235/X, W/1373/,<br />

X/0099/X, X/1092/X, X/0727/X.<br />

More clarity is needed. (B/0613/X)<br />

How l<strong>on</strong>g is a piece <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> string? You may have a large garden, it may not be hedged or<br />

fenced and you may perceive you have less privacy if a member <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public walks<br />

through your curtilage. (B/1267/X/d).<br />

3.11 This is too vague, particularly as regards woodland near a house. (Q/0499/X)<br />

Privacy and peace secti<strong>on</strong>s appear vague and lack definiti<strong>on</strong>. (V/0851/X)<br />

The answer is obviously NO. The reas<strong>on</strong> for this is that people are not <strong>on</strong> paths - as I<br />

said earlier, many paths should be provided. Having people wandering anywhere <strong>on</strong><br />

private land is not a sensible balance. (W/0130/X/d)<br />

Access is excluded under <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act (6 (1) (a) (ii))… to boats <strong>on</strong><br />

canal and excludes moorings from access rights. This should be explicitly<br />

acknowledged in <strong>the</strong> guidance. (X/0896/X)<br />

8c. No – <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

wr<strong>on</strong>g, residents’ privacy<br />

is not adequately<br />

protected<br />

A/0518/X, A/0838/X, A/0796/X/d,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0033/X, B/0171/X,<br />

B/0226/X, B/0258/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0058/X, B/0428/X/d, B/0673/X,<br />

B/0895/X, B/0446/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0842/X, B/0654/X,<br />

B/0648/X, B/1033/X, B/1047/X,<br />

B/1049/X, B/0956/X, B/1072/X,<br />

B/1072/X, B/1062/X, B/1173/X,<br />

B/1126/X, B/1117/X, B/1100/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1083/X/d, B/1183/X,<br />

B/1181/X, B/0970/X, B/0980/X,<br />

B/0982/X, B/0680/X, B/0677/X,<br />

B/0741/X, B/0695/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/1244/X, B/0568/X, B/0538/X,<br />

B/1306/X/d, B/1303/X/d, B/1027/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0300/X/d, B/0329/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0406/X, B/1269/X,<br />

B/0938/X/d, B/0943/X, D/1206/X,<br />

E/0924/X, E/1215/X, F/1134/X,<br />

G/1330/X/d, H/0460/X, H/0515/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/0534/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1058/X, L/0513/X, L/0992/X,<br />

P/0491/X, P/0492/X, P/0642/X,<br />

...re-word <strong>the</strong> text to make it clear that lingering, or even worse scrutinising, are<br />

unacceptable at any time. (A/0838/X)<br />

For any<strong>on</strong>e who has purchased <strong>the</strong>ir property prior to <strong>the</strong> Act <strong>the</strong>y are now in danger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

losing <strong>the</strong> valuable privacy that <strong>the</strong>y had prior to <strong>the</strong> passing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act. (B/1062/X)<br />

People who live in <strong>the</strong> country can become alarmed by <strong>the</strong> presence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> strangers and<br />

may feel threatened and unsafe to see people passing close to <strong>the</strong>ir homes.<br />

(B/0938/X/d).<br />

The Code does not strike a sensible balance. Coming too near houses effects privacy,<br />

security and causes alarm. Pers<strong>on</strong>s living in <strong>the</strong> country are not used to people coming<br />

about and would feel insecure. (B/0300/X/d).<br />

The code should give more examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what is and is not acceptable ie. Walking <strong>on</strong><br />

paths al<strong>on</strong>gside a garden is acceptable but stopping to look in <strong>the</strong> garden is not, it is an<br />

invasi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> privacy. (B/0446/X)<br />

Access takers should endeavour to keep far enough away from dwelling houses as not<br />

to be visible if at all possible. The code should emphasise <strong>the</strong> need not to loiter or take<br />

rests anywhere near dwellings and farmyards (B/0404/X).<br />

Fur<strong>the</strong>r guidance needs to be developed for this secti<strong>on</strong> for example providing a<br />

measure by which a reas<strong>on</strong>able distance can be maintained. An example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this may be<br />

whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> access user can see into a property's windows and or whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> noise<br />

level is detrimental to <strong>the</strong> occupiers. (P/0642/X)<br />

The code should be much more prescriptive in protecting <strong>the</strong> rights and privacy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those<br />

who live in <strong>the</strong> countryside… Access takers should remain out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> earshot at <strong>the</strong> very<br />

least unless <strong>the</strong>y are using a recognised pathway for passage. (Q/0157/X)<br />

Reas<strong>on</strong>able measures <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> privacy will not be afforded to residents in <strong>the</strong> country while <strong>the</strong><br />

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8d. No – <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

wr<strong>on</strong>g, residents’ privacy<br />

over protected<br />

P/1060/X, P/1272/X, P/1272/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0499/X, Q/0866/X/d,<br />

Q/0905/X, Q/0686/X, Q/1252/X,<br />

V/0398/X/d, W/0003/X, W/0025/X,<br />

W/0483/X, W/0278/X, W/0411/X,<br />

W/0530/X, W/0770/X/d, W/0812/,<br />

W/0818/X, W/0857/X, W/0766/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0143/X, W/1159/X/d,<br />

W/1151/X, W/1123/X, W/1112/X,<br />

W/1110/X, W/1085/X, W/0531/X,<br />

W/1223/X, W/0991/X, W/1001/X/d,<br />

W/1024/X, W/0354/X/d,<br />

W/0354/X/d, W/1011/X, W/1318/X,<br />

W/0950/X/d, X/0896/X, X/1059/X,<br />

X/1188/X, X/0405/X/d.<br />

A/0133/X, A/0308/X, A/0291/X,<br />

G/1291/X, G/0043/X, G/0730/X,<br />

M/0463/X, P/0642/X, R/1278/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/0887/X.<br />

guidance is entirely <strong>the</strong> opini<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people exercising access rights. It is entirely<br />

subjective and open to abuse. (W/0354/X/d).<br />

...<strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive c<strong>on</strong>firmed that <strong>the</strong> public would not be able to exercise access<br />

rights <strong>on</strong> caravan park land except in situati<strong>on</strong>s where a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way is in existence ….<br />

The Code requires to be altered to highlight <strong>the</strong> fact that caravan parks are excluded<br />

ra<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>on</strong>ly make reference to protecting <strong>the</strong> individual caravanner's privacy in his<br />

touring caravan or caravan holiday home as it does at <strong>the</strong> moment in points 2.15 and<br />

3.10. (X/1059/X)<br />

... The Code should justify why <strong>the</strong> Act does not distinguish between day-time and nighttime<br />

access. It needs to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that people may have many legitimate reas<strong>on</strong>s<br />

for being out after dark. These include watching <strong>the</strong> sunset/sunrise from a hilltop,<br />

viewing <strong>the</strong> night sky away from artificial light or starting/finishing a l<strong>on</strong>g walk or climb in<br />

<strong>the</strong> dark, to make <strong>the</strong> most <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> limited winter daylight. (A/0958/X).<br />

Unhindered access to <strong>the</strong> outdoors at night is a very important part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access right<br />

granted under <strong>the</strong> Act. Much climbing and mountaineering activity relies <strong>on</strong> it, e.g winter<br />

climbing when daylight hours are short. It is likely to come under threat from some<br />

sectors, and should be expressed as positively as possible. (G/0920/Y)<br />

The balance is about right… but some disabled people may need to follow a path near a<br />

dwelling in order to gain access at all. (M/0463/X)<br />

...paragraph 3.11 needs to recognise that where a house is next to a river, it is not as<br />

easy to avoid passing close to a house or garden and potentially affecting peace and<br />

privacy. …in such cases it is reas<strong>on</strong>able to expect people to be able to pass a house or<br />

garden in closer proximity to it than might be c<strong>on</strong>sidered reas<strong>on</strong>able <strong>on</strong> land. .....<strong>the</strong>re is<br />

a need for some specific advice <strong>on</strong> privacy and peace next to estate gatehouses. Such<br />

houses are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten immediately next to <strong>the</strong> road and also <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten provide <strong>the</strong> main means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access into an estate......important that access to estates is not allowed to be restricted<br />

because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> claims from residents <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gatehouses that <strong>the</strong>ir privacy is being impinged<br />

up<strong>on</strong>. (R/1278/X)<br />

A frequently encountered situati<strong>on</strong>… is that where a "Private Road" sign is exhibited, or<br />

a "Private" sign ei<strong>the</strong>r <strong>on</strong> land or <strong>on</strong> a road is exhibited. The failure to clarify <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

all parties in <strong>the</strong>se situati<strong>on</strong>s is a most significant failure in <strong>the</strong> present <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

(W/0887/X)<br />

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8 e. advice <strong>on</strong> access at<br />

night needs to give<br />

residents more privacy<br />

A/0655/X/d, A/0471/X/d, A/0997/X,<br />

A/0927/X, A/0958/X, B/0015/,<br />

B/0183/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0473/X/d,<br />

B/0181/X, B/0488/X/d, B/0443/X,<br />

B/0142/X, B/0456/X, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0638/X/d, B/0801/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0842/X, B/0909/X, B/0798/X,<br />

B/0783/X/d, B/0782/X, B/0760/X,<br />

B/0764/X, B/0956/X, B/1068/X,<br />

B/1063/X, B/1160/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1142/X, B/1121/X, B/1177/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1091/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1186/X, B/1181/X,<br />

B/0964/X, B/0969/X, B/0980/X,<br />

B/1017/X, B/0683/X, B/0681/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/0711/X, B/0704/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/1033/X, B/1236/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/1293/X, B/1261/X,<br />

B/1248/X, B/1350/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/1216/X, B/1210/X, B/1208/X,<br />

B/1022/X, B/0322/X, B/0371/X,<br />

B/1207/X, B/1269/X, E/0523/X,<br />

E/0514/X, E/1038/X, E/1074/X,<br />

E/1113/X, E/1246/X, E/0536/X,<br />

F/1134/X, F/0998/X, G/1099/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, G/0831/X, G/0854/X,<br />

H/1196/X, H/0959/X, J/1058/X,<br />

K/0722/X, M/0852/X, N/0716/X,<br />

N/1268/X, P/0889/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/1218/X, P/0287/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/1346/X, V/0245/X,<br />

W/0191/X, W/0100/d, W/0412/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0693/X, W/0822/X,<br />

W/0857/X, W/0873/X, W/0799/X,<br />

W/0776/X, W/0770/X/d, W/1034/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1110/X, W/1088/X,<br />

W/0962/X/d, W/0963/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/0750/X, W/0735/X, W/0699/X,<br />

W/1289/X, W/1287/X, W/1263/X,<br />

W/0555/X, W/1318/X, W/1315/,<br />

No I do not think access rights should be exercised near houses or in stocked fields at<br />

all after dark. (B/0466/X/d)<br />

Why would any resp<strong>on</strong>sible pers<strong>on</strong> wish to have access to a farmer's land in <strong>the</strong> hours<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> darkness? (B/0683/X)<br />

In remote rural areas or in areas very close to cities nocturnal access is rarely benign. It<br />

is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten <strong>on</strong>ly exercised by those intent <strong>on</strong> mischief and this code is a vandals charter and<br />

can be very threatening to those living al<strong>on</strong>e. (B/0371/X).<br />

In rural districts night-time access is particularly worrying and in many cases <strong>the</strong> rural<br />

dweller is <strong>on</strong>ly aware because <strong>the</strong> dog becomes alert and starts barking. (B/0672/X)<br />

The public should not take access to private property at night. (E/0514/X)<br />

Night access - this creates a hazard and is a safety issue. Farmers may c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>the</strong><br />

police/mountain rescue if walkers have not returned to <strong>the</strong>ir cars by nightfall -<br />

inappropriate night access is not c<strong>on</strong>sidered to be resp<strong>on</strong>sible access and is best dealt<br />

with via permissi<strong>on</strong> and advice. (H/0959/X).<br />

People should be required, wherever practical, to notify <strong>the</strong> land manager if <strong>the</strong>y are<br />

entering enclosed land at night, for <strong>the</strong>ir own safety and for <strong>the</strong> peace <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> mind <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those<br />

living <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> land. (N/0716/X)<br />

Access rights at night. This is a recipe for disaster - Land managers must be notified<br />

before night access is undertaken, or may be taken by people returning late after normal<br />

daylight access. (W/0770/X/d)<br />

Access at any time <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> day or night. Surely this should be curtailed to a Dawn to Dusk<br />

right, with a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access at night <strong>on</strong>ly by prior arrangement with/notificati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

relevant Land Manager. Recogniti<strong>on</strong> by strangers accessing new ground in total<br />

darkness <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crops or livestock to avoid is totally impractical and does not sit in any way<br />

with <strong>the</strong> Code. (W/0991/X)<br />

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8f. large gardens should<br />

be excluded from public<br />

access<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1224/X, W/0991/X,<br />

W/1001/X/d, W/1014/X, W/1024/X,<br />

W/0951/X, W/0957/X, X/0192/X/d,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0652/X, X/1385/X.<br />

A/0098/X, B/0041/X, B/0054/X,<br />

B/0123/X, B/0211/X, B/0270/X,<br />

B/0281/X, B/0284/X, B/0286/X,<br />

B/0458/X, B/0472/X, B/0482/X,<br />

B/0676/X, B/0830/X, B/0835/X,<br />

B/0875/X, B/0909/X, B/0964/X,<br />

B/0982/X, B/0673/X, B/0752/X,<br />

B/0935/X, B/0909/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/1350/X, B/1306/X/d, B/1005/X,<br />

B/1013/X, B/0298/X, B/0299/X,<br />

B/0303/X, B/0332/X, B/0338/X/d,<br />

B/0339/X, B/0343/X, B/0353/X,<br />

B/0371/X, B/0371/X, B/0372/X,<br />

B/0377/X, B/0378/X, B/0380/X,<br />

B/0406/X, B/1078/X, E/0516/X,<br />

E/0984/X, H/1103/X, H/1042/X,<br />

J/1058/X, L/0985/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

W/0767/X, W/0341/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/1085/X, X/0099/X, X/0358/X,<br />

X/0888/X.<br />

Many country houses, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all sizes, incorporate land that is not maintained as a formal<br />

garden, yet is maintained for <strong>the</strong> peaceful and private amenity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> householders. ....<br />

<strong>the</strong>re should be provisi<strong>on</strong> for some means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> delineating, at <strong>the</strong> homeowners discreti<strong>on</strong>,<br />

where people cannot exercise access rights. .... It cannot be left up to <strong>the</strong> visitor to<br />

determine. (B/0935/X).<br />

To avoid c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "reas<strong>on</strong>able" should be at <strong>the</strong> garden<br />

owner's/manager's discreti<strong>on</strong>. "Intensity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Management" is a suitable definti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a<br />

garden footpath. If it looks like a garden <strong>the</strong>n it probably is <strong>on</strong>e! (B/1350/X)<br />

For many houses, <strong>the</strong> attracti<strong>on</strong> is that <strong>the</strong>y are set in am<strong>on</strong>g trees or a relatively wild<br />

locati<strong>on</strong>, and are not hemmed in by fences or walls. It does not seem reas<strong>on</strong>able to be<br />

able to picnic or camp in an area simply because <strong>the</strong> owner has chosen to allow part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong>ir "policies" to have a "wild" look and feel. (B/1306/X/d)<br />

The Code should indicate that access rights do not apply in gardens, policies and<br />

associated managed woodland… The larger <strong>the</strong> house, <strong>the</strong> greater is <strong>the</strong> area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land<br />

required to give reas<strong>on</strong>able privacy and quiet enjoyment. (B/0458/X)<br />

.... we are very c<strong>on</strong>cerned how <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code is going to affect <strong>the</strong><br />

d<strong>on</strong>ati<strong>on</strong>s arising from our periodic Garden Openings ..... There is some doubt whe<strong>the</strong>r<br />

people might refuse to pay entry m<strong>on</strong>ey to view <strong>the</strong> garden when <strong>the</strong>y come in free. We<br />

do not know <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "curtilage" .... The access code also brings up <strong>the</strong> questi<strong>on</strong><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> possible increased insurance premiums, also burglary and damage to plants etc.<br />

(B/0332/X)<br />

We are c<strong>on</strong>cerned about: ~ unsupervised access to our garden, ~ <strong>the</strong>ft and security <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

our statues and plants, ~ wilful damage, ~ injuries caused to pers<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> our property ....<br />

(B/0372/X)<br />

a well-maintained park extending to 30 acres. ….. Also now that The Wild Camping Act<br />

has been withdrawn, it will be impossible to stop people camping <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Park in full view<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> house (B/0406/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re are specific areas where <strong>the</strong> public, if unsupervised, could come to harm, e.g.<br />

whilst tree felling is in progress, slippery bridges and paths, a small p<strong>on</strong>d (B/1013/X)<br />

I would say that rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access should not apply to such land at any times and this<br />

includes all policies <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a house (including deer parks etc) and not just <strong>the</strong> immediate<br />

curtilage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> property, which would principally be <strong>the</strong> gardens. (E/0984/X)<br />

…gardens adjoining <strong>the</strong> owner's house or a walled garden which may be some distance<br />

from <strong>the</strong> house in additi<strong>on</strong> to woodland gardens…… It appears …..that <strong>the</strong> general<br />

public may access <strong>the</strong>se properties which are bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong> curtilage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> owner's house<br />

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8g. O<strong>the</strong>r A/0719/X/d, B/0285/X, B/0876/X,<br />

B/1167/X, B/1150/X/d, B/1096/X/ ,<br />

B/1093/X, B/1199/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/0668/X, B/0943/X, E/0536/X,<br />

G/0657/X, G/0795/X, H/0310/X,<br />

K/1241/X, M/1043/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0717/X, R/1221/X, U/0922/X,<br />

U/0922/X, W/0641/X, W/0800/X,<br />

W/1052/X/d, W/1085/X,<br />

W/0977/X/d, W/0944/X, X/0421/X,<br />

X/1056/X, X/0939/X.<br />

365 days <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year and 24 hours day and night. It also seems that commercial tour<br />

guides can bring paying clients to view <strong>the</strong>se gardens without <strong>the</strong> garden owner or<br />

charity benefiting. (L/0985/X)<br />

...we have our own commercial nursery. .... The famous garden is well known for its<br />

collecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rare .... plants ....If people come here at any time whenever <strong>the</strong>y like, how<br />

can we avoid accidents from nursery and garden operati<strong>on</strong>s .... How can we protect our<br />

plants being stolen, trampled <strong>on</strong> and gates left open? (X/0358/X)<br />

Our garden, as many <strong>Scottish</strong> gardens, does not adjoin <strong>the</strong> house; it is a separate entity.<br />

It should be part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> house’s curtilage but being separate I do not believe that <strong>the</strong><br />

Code adequately reflects <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong>. (X/0888/X)<br />

The Code does not take into account <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> property ... e.g. civil wedding<br />

cerem<strong>on</strong>ies in both <strong>the</strong> garden and <strong>the</strong> Castle itself and clearly this could cause c<strong>on</strong>flict,<br />

particularly with regard to photography. (B/0943/X)<br />

There must be thought given to genuine cases such as hotels, rural businesses<br />

promoting privacy, homes with policies, where it is reas<strong>on</strong>able to be more flexible with<br />

<strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> curtilage…… This subject has not been looked into carefully enough.<br />

(B/1167/X)<br />

I <strong>the</strong>refore think a generic symbol or wording should be agreed up<strong>on</strong> which can be used<br />

by those with private gardens in this situati<strong>on</strong> to make people aware that <strong>the</strong>re are areas<br />

over which <strong>the</strong>y have no right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access. By using a generic symbol or wording it could<br />

be more easily communicated as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. (W/1085/X)<br />

Curtilage and privacy are very difficult issues involving distance from <strong>the</strong> house, day or<br />

night, numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walkers, and above all, <strong>the</strong>ir behaviour. Clearly defined signs and<br />

paths could avoid problems. (W/0944/X)<br />

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Supplementary Comments - Does <strong>the</strong> Code provide adequate guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

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curtilage and related issues?<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Yes<br />

B/0738/X, G/0698/X, K/0722/X,<br />

P/1066/X, X/1067/X.<br />

<strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> curtilage is satisfactory as it stands (B/0738/X)<br />

'Curtilage', with its large variety in Scotland, is admirably covered in this paragraph.<br />

(K/0722/X)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong> about curtilage is good though (P/1066/X)<br />

No – <strong>the</strong> guiodance is<br />

inadequate <strong>on</strong> safety and<br />

security issues relating to<br />

n<strong>on</strong>-residential buildings<br />

B/0488/X/d, B/0863/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/1368/X/d, H/1179/X, H/0684/X,<br />

J/1058/X, N/0987/X, M/0852/X,<br />

P/1247/X, Q/0016/X, Q/0866/X/d,<br />

W/0321/X, W/1265/X, W/0767/X,<br />

W/0864/X, W/0903/X, W/0702/Y,<br />

W/1110/X, X/0656/X.<br />

The term "curtilage" is ill defined and <strong>the</strong> Access Code must give clearer guidance. A<br />

Farm Steading operates as an integrated workplace and should be seen as a "works<br />

compound". (B/0488/X/d)<br />

As noted above a much more prescriptive definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> curtilage is required. (H/1179/X)<br />

Point out <strong>the</strong> dangers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a working farm. Be very clear with <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> curtilage<br />

surrounding property in order to safeguard privacy as certain types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> landscape and<br />

areas will require different curtilage. (M/0852/X)<br />

..derelict cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t buildings which is part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Orkney scenery can be very dangerous to<br />

<strong>the</strong> people/visitors … <strong>the</strong> old ro<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>s may hold many t<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> st<strong>on</strong>e <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>m. (Q/0016/X)<br />

I suggest that you define <strong>the</strong> word curtilage because it is not in comm<strong>on</strong> parlance.<br />

(W/0702/Y)<br />

Curtilage - <strong>the</strong> lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a positive definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Curtilage is a serious omissi<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> Act<br />

which, although difficult to state with any degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> precisi<strong>on</strong> in view <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> different<br />

situati<strong>on</strong>s to which it might refer is, never<strong>the</strong>less, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such seriousness that it cannot be<br />

left undefined - or for endless costly litigati<strong>on</strong> to resolve over time. (W/0767/X)<br />

More guidance needed <strong>on</strong><br />

schools (including outdoor<br />

centres) and c<strong>on</strong>tiguous<br />

land.<br />

A/1076/X, D/1206/X, G/0795/X,<br />

M/1043/X, M/0667/X, P/0548/X,<br />

V/0035/X, W/0990/X/d, X/1188/X,<br />

X/0010/X, X/1188/X, X/1345/X.<br />

2. The statement (2.4) that access rights do not apply "<strong>on</strong> land next to a school and<br />

used by <strong>the</strong> school" does not cover all situati<strong>on</strong>s. Most school playing fields in Scotland<br />

are owned by local authorities and many authorities allow or encourage access outside<br />

school hours and during school holidays. I would suggest "while being used by <strong>the</strong><br />

school" instead <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "used by <strong>the</strong> school". (A/1076/X)<br />

Explicitly we seek an exempti<strong>on</strong> from a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to cover Scout Camp Sites and<br />

<strong>Outdoor</strong> Activity Centres, to facilitate in particular <strong>the</strong> applicati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> necessary Child<br />

Protectoin Policies and Procedures. Scout camp sites and <strong>Outdoor</strong> Activity Centres,<br />

and indeed similar facilities operated by o<strong>the</strong>r Nati<strong>on</strong>al Youth Organisati<strong>on</strong>s as<br />

resources integral to programmes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> n<strong>on</strong>-formal educati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> young people, should be<br />

accorded <strong>the</strong> same status as 'land immediately next to any school and used by that<br />

school (such as playing fields)'. (M/1043/X)<br />

I would suggest that ano<strong>the</strong>r category be added to <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> where access rights do<br />

not apply. This should be <strong>Outdoor</strong> Activity Centres, as <strong>the</strong>y are at a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> locati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

around <strong>the</strong> country, and access rights should not apply when <strong>the</strong>y are in use. These<br />

centres should be c<strong>on</strong>sidered as schools, because it is predominantly young people who<br />

use such centres. (M/0667/X)<br />

School playing fields - reword to make it clear that it is not any land next to a school that<br />

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More guidance needed <strong>on</strong><br />

o<strong>the</strong>r n<strong>on</strong>-residential<br />

buildings / compounds &<br />

enclosures<br />

A/0666/X, B/0160/X, B/0909/X,<br />

B/0798/X, B/0783/X/d, B/1168/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1187/X, B/0676/X,<br />

B/0673/X, B/0672/X, B/0569/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0368/X, E/1079/X,<br />

E/1246/X, E/0536/X, F/1134/X,<br />

H/1196/X, P/1060/X, P/1247/X,<br />

Q/0424/X, W/0511/X, W/0926/X,<br />

W/1111/X, X/0888/X, X/0656/X.<br />

is used by <strong>the</strong> school which is excluded from <strong>the</strong> rights. Some community greenspace<br />

land such as parks and woodlands are used by <strong>the</strong> school but are not closed to public<br />

access because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this. (P/0548/X)<br />

..<strong>the</strong>re should be a broader definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> word "school" to include <strong>Outdoor</strong> Activity<br />

Centres, Adventure Schools, Field Study and Educati<strong>on</strong>al Centres, and Youth Group<br />

Camps where children are being accommodated and instructed. The "land …being<br />

used by that school" should apply clearly to places such as canoe launching spots where<br />

children may be changing, and an extensive area surrounding children's overnight<br />

camps. In "Wild Country", <strong>the</strong>se areas are usually unfenced and are usually not clearly<br />

defined by anything <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> ground. It is important that protective recogniti<strong>on</strong> be given to<br />

<strong>the</strong>m in <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong>s referring to schools and playing fields, ra<strong>the</strong>r than maybe scattered<br />

more obscurely elsewhere in <strong>the</strong> Code, or in separate (such as comm<strong>on</strong> law) legislati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(X/1188/X)<br />

3.17 There is reference to farmyards when <strong>the</strong>re are all sorts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> n<strong>on</strong>-residential<br />

biuildings in <strong>the</strong> countryside. There are stables, kennels, sawmills, forestry yards as<br />

well. (B/0558/X)<br />

3.17, 3.18 & 3.19 Steadings. The act does not menti<strong>on</strong> Farm, Farmer or Steading.<br />

Instead it menti<strong>on</strong>s 'forms <strong>the</strong> curtilage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a buiding which is not a house or <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a group <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

buidings n<strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> which is a house'. As well as a steadings this must include all buildings<br />

used by Land Managers and many used by o<strong>the</strong>rs. Examples would include Estate or<br />

Forestry workshops and maintenance depots, Riding Stables, Keepers or commercial<br />

kennels, activities centres and old steadings c<strong>on</strong>verted to commercial use. It should be<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that <strong>the</strong>se paragraphs apply to many groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> buildings, not <strong>on</strong>ly<br />

steadings...... I would suggest that <strong>the</strong> paragraph should say '<strong>the</strong> occupier can withdraw<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> and is likely to do so if he has problems with access takers'. (B/1094/X)<br />

I feel that <strong>the</strong> curtilage rules should apply to any building including any open-fr<strong>on</strong>ted hay<br />

sheds. (B/0569/X)<br />

fishing huts and bothies should be included in <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> places to which access rights do<br />

not apply. (H/0684/X)<br />

Burial grounds… appear to receive no specific menti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. Small<br />

grounds should be readily skirted. I see no reas<strong>on</strong>able objecti<strong>on</strong> to access to larger<br />

burial grounds for <strong>the</strong> purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crossing <strong>the</strong>m, but resp<strong>on</strong>sible access should be by<br />

use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> existing paths or, where <strong>the</strong>re are no obvious paths, by passing between rows <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

graves ra<strong>the</strong>r than across <strong>the</strong>m. (W/0511/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Almost a third <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> written <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> comment <strong>on</strong> this issue, with a roughly equal number supporting or disagreeing with <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. A few<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>dents thought that it was not possible for <strong>the</strong> Code to provide detailed guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> privacy and peace issue as it is difficult to satisfy <strong>the</strong> full<br />

range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> situati<strong>on</strong>s relating to <strong>the</strong> variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> properties existing in different urban and rural locati<strong>on</strong>s, al<strong>on</strong>g with <strong>the</strong> varied percepti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir residents and<br />

<strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>al users who may pass close to <strong>the</strong>m.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

The main c<strong>on</strong>cerns related to:<br />

• exercising access rights at night close to people's homes – and a feeling that <strong>the</strong> Act goes too far and infringes people’s liberties, raising fears over<br />

security and invasi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> privacy; and<br />

• <strong>the</strong> extent to which access rights can apply to people's gardens and provide access close to sheds, greenhouses, summer-houses and gazebos.<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r specific fears raised by land managers were about livestock and wildlife disturbance, and disrupti<strong>on</strong> to night time "lamping" operati<strong>on</strong>s and resulting<br />

injuries to <strong>the</strong> public. Related to this was c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> as to why people needed access at night, and a fear that as written <strong>the</strong> Code could provide cover for<br />

criminal activity.<br />

The definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>, and applicability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> rights to, gardens and "sufficient" adjacent land were also highlighted as requiring clarificati<strong>on</strong> (many c<strong>on</strong>cerns<br />

came from members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland's Gardens Scheme). This was particularly in relati<strong>on</strong> to: large properties with extensive lawns and surrounding<br />

woodlands; gardens that are separated from a house; and walled gardens separated from <strong>the</strong> main house.<br />

Whilst this questi<strong>on</strong> dealt specifically with peace and privacy for domestic residences, a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents expressed c<strong>on</strong>cerns regarding n<strong>on</strong>residential<br />

buildings and <strong>the</strong>ir curtilages, and o<strong>the</strong>r ground where access rights may be restricted, for example in relati<strong>on</strong> to school activities.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The Proposed Code reflects <strong>the</strong>se c<strong>on</strong>cerns by providing more interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "sufficient adjacent land", "reas<strong>on</strong>able measures <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> privacy" and "<strong>the</strong><br />

locati<strong>on</strong> and characteristics <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> house or o<strong>the</strong>r place". The proposed access educati<strong>on</strong> programme will reinforce this by encouraging users to act<br />

sensitively and courteously in <strong>the</strong> proximity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> buildings, particularly at night, and will c<strong>on</strong>sider opti<strong>on</strong>s for signage. The Proposed Code also provides<br />

additi<strong>on</strong>al guidance which encourages people to look for pointers which will help <strong>the</strong>m to make a useful judgment about <strong>the</strong> existence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights, e.g.<br />

<strong>the</strong> existence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear boundaries, managed grass, flower beds and fruit and vegetable patches, and sheds and summer houses.<br />

For larger properties, <strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code reflects that access rights will not extend to those intensively managed parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> property,<br />

obviously intended for domestic enjoyment, but that less-managed grounds, e.g. policy woodlands, will normally be subject to access rights.<br />

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The Proposed Code also includes a specific secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> access at night, which highlights <strong>the</strong> main issues involved and <strong>the</strong> need to take extra care. It also<br />

includes a short secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> taking access close to buildings which are not houses.<br />

It is agreed that fur<strong>the</strong>r clarificati<strong>on</strong> is required <strong>on</strong> curtilage and <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code indicates that land c<strong>on</strong>tiguous to a school must also be “used for <strong>the</strong><br />

purposes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a school” for access rights exempti<strong>on</strong>s to apply, but that this would not reas<strong>on</strong>ably include o<strong>the</strong>r c<strong>on</strong>tiguous land which is occasi<strong>on</strong>ally used for<br />

outdoor less<strong>on</strong>s al<strong>on</strong>gside o<strong>the</strong>r uses.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 9 - If you think that reas<strong>on</strong>able needs for privacy can <strong>on</strong>ly be respected by keeping a<br />

certain distance from any house, what distance would you recommend and why?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

9a. A specific distance<br />

would work, and<br />

suggested distance is ….<br />

A/0009/X, A/0518/X, A/0500/Y/d,<br />

A/0838/X, A/0658/X/d, A/0723/X,<br />

A/0320/X/d, B/0885/X, B/0879/X,<br />

B/0116/X/d, B/0446/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0755/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/1075/X, B/1173/X, B/1366/X,<br />

B/0211/X, B/1101/X, B/0980/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/1288/X, B/0571/X,<br />

B/0570/X/d, B/1216/X, B/1027/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0300/X/d, B/0306/X,<br />

B/0313/X, B/0371/X, B/0931/X/d,<br />

E/1215/X, G/0082/X/d, G/0785/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0460/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0941/X, J/1058/X, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0439/X, P/0890/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/1275/X, Q/0024/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

Q/0357/X, Q/0501/X/d, V/0398/X/d,<br />

W/0025/X, W/0057/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0483/X, W/0489/X, W/0100/d,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0411/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0529/X, W/0812/Y, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/0789/X, W/0143/X, W/1162/X,<br />

W/1159/X/d, W/1153/Z/d, W/1373/,<br />

W/1151/X, W/0977/X/d, W/0675/X,<br />

W/1289/X, W/0567/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/0561/X, W/0554/X, W/1318/X,<br />

W/0999/X, W/1024/X, W/0324/X/d,<br />

W/0403/X, X/0405/X/d, X/1188/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

I would c<strong>on</strong>sider 'close' to be close enough for facial features to be recognisable<br />

(perhaps 50 m?) (A/0838/X)<br />

I see no reas<strong>on</strong> why privacy in <strong>the</strong> countryside need require keeping much fur<strong>the</strong>r away<br />

than would be normal in a town - people walk al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> street just 5m or so from my<br />

fr<strong>on</strong>t door. (A/0723/X)<br />

As a suggesti<strong>on</strong>, an area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> at least 20 times <strong>the</strong> footprint <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> building should be<br />

regarded as curtilage. (B/0879/X)<br />

The idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> agreeing to <strong>the</strong> exclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a 'reas<strong>on</strong>able' distance from a house appeals to<br />

me and I would suggest that a minimum <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 500 metres would be appropriate.<br />

(B/0116/X/d)<br />

Nobody must have access to within 250 metres <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> houses or farm buildings. (B/1101/X)<br />

Where <strong>the</strong>re is no path or track, suggest 50 metres day, and 100 metres in evening. It<br />

would need to be fur<strong>the</strong>r at night to stop dogs barking, wildlife upset, and upset in life.<br />

(B/0300/X/d).<br />

A minimum distance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> not less than <strong>on</strong>e hundred metres should be imposed for any<br />

inhabited dwelling, night or day. (H/0460/X)<br />

Could use 100 m from a country house, closer if <strong>the</strong>re is a defined track or path.<br />

Impossible to set a distance in urban settings, e.g. routes pass between houses, al<strong>on</strong>g<br />

towpaths, etc. (P/1273/X).<br />

In Norway 150 metres is <strong>the</strong> guideline - this seems a sensible distance particularly for<br />

overnight camping. (W/0095/X)<br />

272<br />

9b. A specific distance<br />

would not work.<br />

A/0437/X, A/0133/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0442/X, A/0469/X, A/0471/X/d,<br />

A/0719/X/d, A/0825/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/1084/X, A/0740/X, A/0319/X,<br />

A/0362/X, A/0369/X/d, A/0958/X,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0116/X/d, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0160/X, B/0167/X, B/0525/X/d,<br />

... Distances are irrelevant, e.g. many old houses are <strong>on</strong> old drove roads, bridle paths<br />

and footpaths. .... (A/0362/X)<br />

This suggesti<strong>on</strong> is not practical ... It is very difficult to judge distances <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> ground and<br />

...… would be very hard to enforce and police. (B/0937/X)<br />

It is not practical or flexible to use a fixed distance … The current wording…is very<br />

helpful as it gives a list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> factors that should be c<strong>on</strong>sidered when judging 'intrusiveness'.<br />

(G/1291/X)<br />

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B/0837/X, B/0794/X, B/0782/X,<br />

B/1049/X, B/1152/X, B/1150/X/d,<br />

B/1117/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1267/X/d, B/0569/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0305/X,<br />

B/0305/X, B/0347/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0772/X, B/1267/X/d, B/0935/X,<br />

B/0937/X, D/0022/X, D/0093/X,<br />

E/0924/X, E/0516/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0703/X, E/1246/X, G/0043/X,<br />

G/0379/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0900/X, G/0759/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1057/X, G/1098/X,<br />

G/0960/X, G/0973/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/1251/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/1330/X/d, G/1226/X, G/1214/X,<br />

H/0310/X, H/0808/X, K/0444/X,<br />

K/1241/X, L/0410/X, L/0650/X,<br />

M/0463/X, P/0287/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0640/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0646/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/1060/X, P/1066/X, P/0717/X,<br />

P/1300/X, P/0287/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1237/X, P/1239/X,<br />

P/1272/X, Q/0893/X, Q/0445/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, Q/0707/X, Q/0790/X,<br />

Q/0651/X, Q/0686/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/0697/X/d, Q/1346/X,<br />

R/1278/X, U/0922/X, V/0207/X,<br />

W/0003/X, W/0017/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/0235/X, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0071/X, W/0435/X, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0108/X/d, W/0457/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/0140/X, W/0511/X, W/0625/X,<br />

W/0822/X, W/0843/X, W/0898/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/1158/X, W/1130/X,<br />

W/1085/X, W/0962/X/d, W/0675/X,<br />

W/1329/X, W/1310/X/d,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/0334/X, W/0341/X,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0407/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

It is not possible to prescribe a minimum distance to be kept from any house due to <strong>the</strong><br />

infinitely variable circumstances. (G/0806/X)<br />

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W/0955/X, W/0391/X, W/1367/,<br />

W/1378/, W/1359/X, X/0896/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0784/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/1092/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0727/X, X/1212/X, X/0939/X,<br />

X/1385/X.<br />

9c. O<strong>the</strong>r views A/0425/X, A/0825/X, B/0428/X/d,<br />

B/0461/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0827/X,<br />

B/0876/X, B/1062/X, B/1078/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0404/X, E/0616/X,<br />

G/0189/X, H/0515/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0889/X, P/1219/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/1275/X, U/1172/X, W/0278/X,<br />

W/0511/X, W/0770/X/d, W/0644/X,<br />

W/0669/X/d, W/0818/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/0979/X, W/1287/X, W/1217/X,<br />

W/0307/X, W/1235/X.<br />

My own house has a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way in fr<strong>on</strong>t <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my siting room called a pavement. I d<strong>on</strong>'t<br />

see why people in rural areas should have a big problem with this if people in urban<br />

areas d<strong>on</strong>'t. (A/0425/X)<br />

Dependant <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> immediate envir<strong>on</strong>ment. A definitive distance measure would sit<br />

uneasily with <strong>the</strong> underlying principles <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sensitive and reas<strong>on</strong>able behaviour and could<br />

be applied in an unreas<strong>on</strong>able manner. (P/0384/X)<br />

Not distance, but activity. (W/1235/X)<br />

Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

In c<strong>on</strong>trast to questi<strong>on</strong> 8, few resp<strong>on</strong>dents commented <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a specific distance for ensuring reas<strong>on</strong>able privacy. Of <strong>the</strong> comments received, <strong>the</strong>re<br />

were mixed resp<strong>on</strong>ses, although <strong>the</strong> majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses from local authorities felt that specifying a certain distance or range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> distances to respect<br />

privacy needs would not be workable.<br />

Key issues / c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

It is clear that an enormous variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circumstances would have to be covered in any detailed guidance <strong>on</strong> a specific distance for ensuring reas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

privacy. Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>dents proposed distances ranging from 10m to 200m with quite a number suggesting that 50 – 100 meters might suffice - with<br />

<strong>the</strong> distance at night being double that for during <strong>the</strong> day.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

On balance, SNH c<strong>on</strong>siders that it would be impractical to implement a set distance for privacy, with access closer to houses being inevitable in many<br />

settings, for example, when in urban fringe areas or when following paths. As such, and in accordance with <strong>the</strong> analysis for Q8, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code<br />

provides more qualitative guidance for users and residents to inform judgments about appropriate distances for ensuring reas<strong>on</strong>able privacy.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 10 - Does <strong>the</strong> guidance strike a sensible and workable balance between <strong>the</strong> interests<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those exercising access rights and those working in farmyards?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

10a. <strong>the</strong> guidance is<br />

sensible and workable<br />

A/0009/X, A/0927/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0469/X, A/0518/X, A/1070/X/d,<br />

A/0958/X, B/0142/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0347/X, B/0409/X,<br />

G/0043/X, G/0189/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0114/X, G/0806/X, G/0785/X,<br />

G/1057/X, G/0960/X, G/0973/X,<br />

G/0698/X, K/0444/X, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0439/X, P/0642/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1218/X, P/1275/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0157/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/0686/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

R/0549/X, W/0003/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0194/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0214/X, W/0246/X, W/0108/X/d,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0112/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0644/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1151/X, W/1130/X,<br />

W/1110/X, W/1329/X, W/1007/X,<br />

X/1385/X, W/1367/, W/1377//d.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

It is very helpful to have advice about farmyards even though <strong>the</strong>y are not in <strong>the</strong><br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>, and <strong>the</strong> advice is well balanced. (A/1070/X/d)<br />

On paper - yes! (B/1114/X/d)<br />

A reas<strong>on</strong>able balance has been struck. (G/0114/X)<br />

The current guidance does allow <strong>the</strong> flexibility necessary to deal with <strong>the</strong> different<br />

situati<strong>on</strong>s that can occur. (P/0643/X)<br />

Although not perfect, I think this is probably <strong>the</strong> best that can be achieved. …where<br />

farmers do not wish access to be taken through a farmyard .. <strong>the</strong>y will direct <strong>the</strong>m<br />

around <strong>the</strong> outside. If this access is hindered or difficult, <strong>the</strong>ir directi<strong>on</strong>s will simply be<br />

ignored. (W/0194/X)<br />

346<br />

10b. <strong>the</strong> guidance is not<br />

sensible and workable<br />

10c. <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

wr<strong>on</strong>g, <strong>the</strong> public should<br />

have better access<br />

A/0437/X, A/0471/X/d, A/0658/X/d,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0436/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0510/X, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/1267/X/d, G/1330/X/d,<br />

H/0310/X, J/1058/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/1060/X, Q/0232/X, Q/0790/X,<br />

V/0398/X, W/0880/X/d, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0619/X, W/1321/, W/1310/X/d,<br />

W/1235/X, X/0639/X, X/1092/X,<br />

X/1188/X.<br />

A/0821/X/d, A/0133/X, A/0425/X,<br />

A/0838/X, A/0740/X, G/0917/X,<br />

G/1291/X, M/0463/X, P/0890/X,<br />

When a horse is present it is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten completely impractical to find <strong>the</strong> farmer if he should<br />

be in a building or <strong>on</strong> a piece <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> machinery. As it is written I d<strong>on</strong>'t think <strong>the</strong> Code makes<br />

negotiating a farmyard sufficiently practical for horse riders. (G/1330/X/d)<br />

We find <strong>the</strong> soluti<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> farmyard problem unsatisfactory. By nature every path <strong>on</strong> a<br />

farm leads to <strong>the</strong> farmyard. Walkers cannot count <strong>on</strong> finding <strong>the</strong> farmer to ask for<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> to walk through, and farmers will get tired <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> being asked. (Q/0790/X)<br />

No because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> following:~ The code suggests farmers are likely to be around <strong>the</strong><br />

farm steadings to give permissi<strong>on</strong> or suggest alternative routes. This is highly unlikely in<br />

practice as farmers are so busy <strong>the</strong>y could be anywhere.~ Biosecurity, security and<br />

health and safety issues need to be addressed. There is too much occasi<strong>on</strong>al activity<br />

that cannot be anticipated. (V/0398/X)<br />

The guidance flies in <strong>the</strong> face <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all guides to HEALTH and SAFETY, BIOSECURITY<br />

and best practice for <strong>the</strong> welfare <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> farm animals. (W/1289/X)<br />

... Going around <strong>the</strong> farmyard and buildings is also not as simple as it sounds. There is<br />

by no means always a clearly perceived route which would avoid disturbing livestock,<br />

damaging crops, climbing over fences or locked gates, or at best, tramping through<br />

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through farmyards W/0972/X, W/0675/X, W/1370/. muddy fields which have been churned up by cattle. (A/0133/X)<br />

Accessibility in farmyards will tend to be better for some disabled people than alternative<br />

routes across surrounding fields. (M/0463/X)<br />

The guidance is in <strong>the</strong> style <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> old culture - find <strong>the</strong> manager and ask permissi<strong>on</strong>.<br />

That is quite unsatisfactory. (P/0890/X)<br />

...farmyards … are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten important gateways <strong>on</strong>to or <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> hill land and are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crucial<br />

importance in taking access through lowland areas, … Although <strong>the</strong>re is no statutory<br />

right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access through farmyards <strong>the</strong> public will still expect to be able to take access<br />

through farmyards under comm<strong>on</strong> law or custom, including <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way,<br />

unless alternative arrangements have been <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>. ... taking an alternative access<br />

around a farmyard may be more hazardous, damaging or altoge<strong>the</strong>r unfeasible than<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tinuing through it. In such a case, it may be more resp<strong>on</strong>sible to take access through<br />

<strong>the</strong> farmyard, but outwith statutory access rights, than around <strong>the</strong> farmyard under<br />

statutory access rights. The Code must explain this properly (G/1291/X)<br />

10d. <strong>the</strong> guidance needs<br />

to be tighter <strong>on</strong> public<br />

access through farmyards<br />

A/0163/X, A/0320/X/d, A/0320/X/d,<br />

A/0346/X, B/0054/X, B/0171/X,<br />

B/0257/X, B/0226/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0925/X, B/0428/X/d, B/0879/X,<br />

B/0118/X, B/0446/X, B/0456/X,<br />

B/0462/X, B/0465/X, B/0473/X/d,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0141/X, B/0525/X/d,<br />

B/0512/X/d, B/0826/X/d, B/0798/X,<br />

B/0794/X, B/0755/X, B/1039/X/d,<br />

B/1049/X, B/0956/X, B/1075/X,<br />

B/1161/X, B/1152/X, B/1150/X/d,<br />

B/1125/X, B/1093/X, B/1083/X/d,<br />

B/0970/X, B/0980/X, B/0681/X,<br />

B/0677/X, B/0676/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/0670/X, B/0733/X, B/0715/X,<br />

B/1250/X, B/0545/X, B/1347/X,<br />

B/1208/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0306/X, B/0404/X, B/1205/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/0938/X/d, B/0954/X,<br />

E/0921/X, E/0516/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/1038/X, E/1246/X, G/0132/X,<br />

H/0515/X, H/1103/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0941/X, L/0513/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0375/X, P/1272/X,<br />

Q/0445/X, Q/0517/X, Q/0501/X/d,<br />

Q/0790/X, Q/1061/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

No - its c<strong>on</strong>fusing… Farmyards are rarely dangerous, most <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> time <strong>the</strong>y are empty<br />

and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten a farmyard c<strong>on</strong>nects 2 roads or tracks… The main safety hazard I have<br />

encountered in farmyards is unc<strong>on</strong>trolled farm dogs. Most access users would wait or<br />

use an alternative route if <strong>the</strong>y could see <strong>the</strong>y would be in <strong>the</strong> way if <strong>the</strong>y went through a<br />

farmyard at a particular time. (A/0425/X)<br />

On balance <strong>the</strong> Code should discourage visits to farms and farmyards. DON'T'S should<br />

include: No entry to buildings, No smoking and KEEP clear <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> equipment and animals.<br />

(B/0462/X)<br />

I think your code should state that cyclists (and horses, if necessary) when going <strong>on</strong><br />

farm tracks that are adjacent to farm houses and buildings should have <strong>the</strong> courtesy to<br />

slow right down to a walking pace. (B/0473/X/d)<br />

Access through farmyards should <strong>on</strong>ly be exercised where a solidly proven public right<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way exists. (B/0428/X/d)<br />

The code is not strict enough in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access through farmyards… unless <strong>the</strong>re is a<br />

core path or right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way, access through farmyards should be assumed not to be<br />

possible… (B/0118/X)<br />

…it should be absolutely clear that unless <strong>the</strong>re is a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way or a core path through a<br />

farmyard, <strong>the</strong>n Secti<strong>on</strong> 3.1.8 should state that you may not go through a farmyard<br />

(B/1347/X)<br />

Farm dogs can be an issue for all users. Users’ dogs should always be <strong>on</strong> a lead when<br />

passing through or near farmyards. (U/0922/X)<br />

In many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> smaller <strong>Scottish</strong> farms, farm buildings and farm house formed an<br />

architectural empty, .... An automatic right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way through <strong>the</strong> farmyard would be a<br />

c<strong>on</strong>siderable intrusi<strong>on</strong> and interference with <strong>the</strong> proper management <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> farm. It<br />

could also lead to serious security problems and should <strong>on</strong>ly be exercised with <strong>the</strong><br />

resident's permissi<strong>on</strong>. (W/0321/X).<br />

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10e. <strong>the</strong>re should be<br />

more emphasis <strong>on</strong><br />

providing alternative<br />

routes around farmyards<br />

W/0217/X, W/0457/X, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0812/Y, W/0836/X, W/0873/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0614/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1141/X, W/1123/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/0669/X/d, W/1289/X,<br />

W/1324/, W/1227/X/d, W/0321/X,<br />

W/0348/X/d, X/0122/X, X/0495/X,<br />

X/0652/X, X/1174/X, X/0727/X,<br />

X/1212/X, X/0405/X/d, B/1375/,<br />

W/1373/.<br />

A/0219/X, A/0126/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0422/X, A/0477/X, A/0820/X,<br />

A/0825/X, A/0908/X, A/01037/X,<br />

A/0968/X, A/0723/X, A/0291/X,<br />

A/0319/X, A/0373/X, B/0241/X,<br />

B/0257/X, B/0885/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0505/X, B/0819/X, B/0772/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/1146/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0371/X, X/0937/X,<br />

B/0294/X, D/0093/X, E/0924/X,<br />

E/1113/X, G/0806/X, G/0854/X,<br />

G/0759/X, G/1044/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1291/X, G/1214/X, G/0379/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/0310/X, H/1042/X,<br />

H/0552/X, L/0185/X, L/0791/X,<br />

L/1026/X, M/0463/X, N/1138/X,<br />

N/1268/X, P/0928/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0646/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1237/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

Q/0930/X, Q/1346/X, Q/1308/X,<br />

R/1278/X, U/1172/X, V/0207/X,<br />

W/0034/X, W/0056/X/d, W/0239/,<br />

W/0255/X, W/0079/X, W/0278/X,<br />

W/0140/X, W/0817/X, W/0833/X,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/0792/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/1149/X, W/1123/X, W/1109/X,<br />

W/0700/X, W/1287/X, W/0328/X,<br />

X/1092/X, X/0099/X.<br />

The Code should make explicit that signed alternatives should be sought to access<br />

through farmyards. (A/0126/X)<br />

Where, for reas<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> health and safety and/ or privacy, access is denied through a<br />

farmyard which is <strong>on</strong> a recognised or reas<strong>on</strong>able route to a hill, <strong>the</strong>re should be an<br />

obligati<strong>on</strong> to provide a reas<strong>on</strong>able alternative access around <strong>the</strong> farmyard. This<br />

obligati<strong>on</strong> should lie with both <strong>the</strong> land owner/ manager and <strong>the</strong> local authority.<br />

(A/0098/X)<br />

Access through/around farmyards. If access in <strong>the</strong>se areas is to be restricted <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>re<br />

should be greater expectati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> land managers to provide alternative routes. This<br />

would be in every<strong>on</strong>e's interest, and would avoid problems. (A/0820/X)<br />

The Code should pay a greater emphasis <strong>on</strong> land managers to provide alternative routes<br />

where <strong>the</strong>y would prefer that access avoided <strong>the</strong> farmyard. (A/0477/X)<br />

It would be good if acti<strong>on</strong> was taken to liaise with land managers and financial resources<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to divert existing access routes away from such places. Lingering in <strong>the</strong><br />

vicinity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> farm yards should be highlighted as being irresp<strong>on</strong>sible. The definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

farmyard should be broadened to include areas where plant and machinery are left<br />

overnight. (W/0901/X/d)<br />

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10f. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0919/X, A/0477/X, A/0769/X/d,<br />

A/1084/X, A/1076/X, A/0743/X,<br />

A/0726/X, A/0719/X/d, A/0362/X,<br />

B/0257/X, B/0512/X/d, B/1146/X,<br />

B/0711/X, B/1267/X/d, B/1295/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/0574/X, B/0538/X,<br />

G/0164/X, G/1099/X, G/1098/X,<br />

G/0730/X, G/1254/X, H/0988/X,<br />

N/1138/X, P/0890/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/1066/X, P/0889/X, P/0717/X,<br />

P/0576/X, P/0548/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/1275/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, Q/1286/X, U/0922/X,<br />

W/0848/X, W/0789/X, W/0780/X,<br />

W/0777/X, W/1032/X, W/0709/X/d,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/0359/X, W/1202/X,<br />

W/0391/X, X/0784/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1188/X, X/0939/X.<br />

In <strong>the</strong> absence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way or core path, if a reas<strong>on</strong>able, passable alternative has<br />

been provided and sign posted it should be used. In <strong>the</strong> absence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such an alternative<br />

being provided <strong>the</strong>re should be a presumpti<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> farmer is c<strong>on</strong>tent to allow access<br />

through <strong>the</strong> farmyard. (A/0919/X)<br />

It is sometimes very difficult to find out who <strong>the</strong> land manager is. (A/0477/X)<br />

Dogs should also be put <strong>on</strong> a lead before passing through a farmyard as <strong>the</strong>re may be<br />

loose stock or farm dogs present. (B/1295/X)<br />

However <strong>the</strong>re is still <strong>the</strong> problem <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what some<strong>on</strong>e should do who finds no alternative<br />

marked, no advice from a land manager and no presence in <strong>the</strong> farmyard. In this case,<br />

people should be encouraged to take <strong>the</strong> course <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> acti<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>y judge to be most<br />

appropriate and resp<strong>on</strong>sible... (G/1099/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re are many situati<strong>on</strong>s when it may be more resp<strong>on</strong>sible to go through a farmyard<br />

than round <strong>the</strong> outside (less disturbance for livestock, less risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> damage to fences etc)<br />

and more advice should be given here to land managers as to how to provide for access<br />

users in <strong>the</strong>se circumstances. (G/1098/X)<br />

The legislati<strong>on</strong> states that farmyards are outwith access rights, <strong>the</strong>refore this secti<strong>on</strong> is<br />

ra<strong>the</strong>r misleading. In all cases where <strong>the</strong>re is not right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way or core path access, users<br />

should take an alternative route around a farmyard, unless <strong>the</strong>y can ask permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager to go through <strong>the</strong> farmyard. (P/0717/X)<br />

Land managers have a history <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> always being eager to erect signs that restrict or even<br />

prohibit access but <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> being negligent in attending to <strong>the</strong>ir subsequent removal when this<br />

becomes appropriate. The Code needs to emphasise that such practice cannot be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>strued as diplaying a positive attitude and if it persists it will inevitably lead to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong>. (Q/1122/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

There was c<strong>on</strong>siderable comment <strong>on</strong> this questi<strong>on</strong> with a large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses (particularly from land management interests) seeking tighter<br />

guidance for recreati<strong>on</strong>al users. Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> did feel that <strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was already sensible and workable, while a few (largely<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al users) expressed c<strong>on</strong>cern that <strong>the</strong>re was a danger that <strong>the</strong> guidance would introduce new restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> access to <strong>the</strong> countryside.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Overall, <strong>the</strong>re was polarised comment <strong>on</strong> this questi<strong>on</strong> with:<br />

• land management interests arguing that statutory access rights do not extend to farmyards so, in <strong>the</strong> absence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way or a core path,<br />

people should exercise access rights in ways to avoid going through <strong>the</strong> farmyard and buildings; and<br />

• recreati<strong>on</strong>al interests accepted that <strong>the</strong> statutory rights do not extend to farmyards but argued that custom and traditi<strong>on</strong> means that people can still<br />

take access through a farmyard unless an alternative route has been provided - arguing that access through farmyards might cause fewer problems<br />

for users and land managers.<br />

There were also c<strong>on</strong>cerns from some land managers that <strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code c<strong>on</strong>tradicted health and safety regulati<strong>on</strong>s, and would result in <strong>the</strong><br />

exposure <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock to c<strong>on</strong>taminati<strong>on</strong> by disease and would expose users to dangerous animals, chemicals and farm machinery and vehicles. As such,<br />

comments sought more specific “do’s” and “d<strong>on</strong>’ts” for users in farmyards.<br />

In additi<strong>on</strong>, <strong>the</strong>re were requests for clear guidance to land managers and local authorities <strong>on</strong> how to create and sign alternative routes around farmyards,<br />

and calls for funding to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to support this.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

Access through farmyards is a sensitive and complex issue. It is clear that <strong>the</strong> statutory access rights do not extend to farmyards but, equally, <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code encourages people to follow paths and tracks where <strong>the</strong>y exist (and land managers have encouraged this in <strong>the</strong>ir resp<strong>on</strong>ses). However,<br />

many paths and tracks go through farmyards and it might not be reas<strong>on</strong>ably practicable, or safe, for people to exercise access rights to get around <strong>the</strong><br />

farmyard and buildings. In <strong>the</strong>se situati<strong>on</strong>s it is suggested in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code that people might be able to go through <strong>the</strong> farmyard under certain<br />

circumstances.<br />

The Proposed Code also encourages alternative routes around farmyards to be provided. In saying this, SNH recognise that practical advice and financial<br />

support is required to help farmers to provide alternative routes around farmyards, e.g. <strong>on</strong> short secti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> path c<strong>on</strong>structi<strong>on</strong> and signage.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

11 - Do you think that <strong>the</strong> guidance provided <strong>on</strong> access over land where land<br />

management work is underway is sensible and workable <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> ground? If you d<strong>on</strong>’t,<br />

please explain why.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

11a. <strong>the</strong> guidance is<br />

sensible and workable<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/0009/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0442/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0518/X, A/0719/X/d, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0958/X, B/1152/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0300/X/d, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0741/X, B/0772/X,<br />

E/1038/X, G/1291/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0379/X, G/0759/X, G/0785/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0917/X, G/0973/X,<br />

G/1251/X, L/0439/X, P/1060/X,<br />

P/1239/X, P/1275/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/0869/X, P/1218/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0232/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/0893/X, U/0922/X,<br />

V/0245/X, W/1007/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1130/X, W/1151/X, W/1158/X,<br />

W/0003/X, W/0017/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0056/X/d, W/0112/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/0214/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/0391/X, W/0423/X, W/0625/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/0789/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/1032/X, W/1367/, W/1377//d.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

This advice is sensible and stated in a reas<strong>on</strong>able way which will encourage people to<br />

comply with it. (A/1070/X/d)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> generally satisfactory and clear. (B/0288/X/d)<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>ably workable advice (E/1038/X)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong> is well worded in that it <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fers useful, but not mandatory, guidance to follow<br />

(G/1291/X)<br />

Yes (L/0439/X)<br />

The current wording is adequate and <strong>the</strong> arrangements will work if powers are not<br />

abused. (P/1218/X)<br />

The proposed code seems reas<strong>on</strong>able. (Q/0157/X)<br />

The guidance is reas<strong>on</strong>ably well balanced…<strong>the</strong> guidance <strong>on</strong> page 48 in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access to fields with livestock could usefully be repeated here. (V/0245/X)<br />

284<br />

11b. <strong>the</strong> guidance is not<br />

sensible and workable<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0927/X, B/0054/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0419/X, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0634/X, H/0515/X,<br />

J/1058/X, Q/0501/X/d, V/0851/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, X/1174/X, X/0405/X/d,<br />

W/1373/ .<br />

No. They will cause distracti<strong>on</strong> to workmen and may cause injury to ei<strong>the</strong>r party.<br />

(A/0320/X/d)<br />

I do not think that <strong>the</strong> guidance strikes a balance between <strong>the</strong> interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those<br />

exercising access rights and those working in farmyards/forestry sites. Under Codes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Practice relative to <strong>the</strong> Health and Safety legislati<strong>on</strong>, we are very actively encouraged to<br />

stress <strong>the</strong> need to keep <strong>the</strong> public away from such areas when operati<strong>on</strong>s are taking<br />

place and it can <strong>on</strong>ly be in <strong>the</strong> public's best interest to adopt <strong>the</strong> same positi<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(B/0510/X)<br />

No. The guidance leaves too much to <strong>the</strong> interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker who may be<br />

completely inexperienced in assessing a) <strong>the</strong> risk, b) a safe distance. (B/0167/X)<br />

No, <strong>the</strong> guidance given in <strong>the</strong> Code is nei<strong>the</strong>r sensible nor sufficient. It focuses entirely<br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> and risk to <strong>the</strong> access taker, who as <strong>the</strong> Code is currently <strong>draft</strong>ed, does<br />

not need to accept <strong>the</strong> advice <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager. There is little or no assurance for<br />

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11c. <strong>the</strong> guidance overly<br />

restricts public access<br />

11d. <strong>the</strong> guidance needs<br />

to be tighter to prevent<br />

disturbance to land<br />

management operati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

A/0290/X, A/0740/X, A/0821/X/d,<br />

B/0937/X, G/0920/Y, R/1278/X,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0221/X.<br />

A/0658/X/d, B/1002/X, B/1033/X,<br />

B/1049/X, B/1072/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1094/X, B/1096/X,<br />

B/1133/X, B/1150/X/d, B/1168/X,<br />

B/1173/X, B/1197/X, B/1261/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/1271/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0141/X, B/0178/X,<br />

B/0215/X, B/0257/X, B/0305/X,<br />

B/0347/X, B/0371/X, B/0404/X,<br />

B/0428/X, B/0462/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0613/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0668/X, B/0672/X, B/0681/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0754/X, B/0754/X,<br />

B/0782/X, B/0794/X, B/0798/X,<br />

B/0819/X, B/0839/X, B/0925/X,<br />

B/0956/X, B/1017/X, B/1030/X,<br />

B/1236/X, E/1243/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0923/X, F/1050/X, G/1098/X,<br />

G/0960/X, H/1042/X, H/1179/X,<br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager who is providing such advice . (J/1058/X)<br />

...not sure c<strong>on</strong>cerns regarding safety are emphasised enough……. Arable areas in <strong>the</strong><br />

spring/early summer may have spray operati<strong>on</strong>s going <strong>on</strong> somewhere within a group <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

fields whenever wea<strong>the</strong>r is suitable. One might as well put a semi-permanent warning<br />

<strong>on</strong> every field in some areas during this period. Ei<strong>the</strong>r way <strong>the</strong> countryside would be full<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signs. (V/0851/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 3.23, <strong>the</strong> first sentence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> which suggests that <strong>the</strong> land manager has to prove he<br />

is justified in closing an area and is <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> many examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code being<br />

weighted in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker. (X/0405/X/d)<br />

No. There is scope for c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> and c<strong>on</strong>flict due to <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> terms like "unsown<br />

ground" which is hard to define, recognise and enforce. (X/1174/X)<br />

Closure <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a particular route must be for <strong>the</strong> minimum time and not allowed to drag <strong>on</strong><br />

indefinitely. This must be seen as an absolute last resort. (A/0821/X/d)<br />

Points covered are all reas<strong>on</strong>able but somewhat laboured <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> acti<strong>on</strong>s to be taken by<br />

those exercising <strong>the</strong>ir statutory rights whilst giving little guidance to land managers who<br />

might needlessly or recklessly interfere with those rights - this material is elsewhere - <strong>the</strong><br />

divisiveness c<strong>on</strong>tinues to <strong>the</strong> detriment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> document. (A/0740/X)<br />

3.15 suggests that <strong>the</strong> whole <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> outdoors is a working envir<strong>on</strong>ment. While this is<br />

undoubtedly true for some areas, it is not true everywhere, and this paragraph should be<br />

amended to reflect this and avoid <strong>the</strong> impressi<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> whole <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> outdoors is some<br />

form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> business. (G/0920/Y)<br />

The Code must recognise <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager to c<strong>on</strong>trol vermin by shooting,<br />

including <strong>the</strong> night time practice <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "lamping." (B/0215/X)<br />

To say 'you must not hinder land management operati<strong>on</strong>s' is an understatement… It is<br />

imperative that deer management is included in <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land management activities -<br />

which may not always be visible (but may be audible)… Where informati<strong>on</strong> is given <strong>on</strong> a<br />

hazard, <strong>the</strong> Code must state that such advice should be followed. (B/0481/X)<br />

This guidance is fine for activities clearly visible. For activities like shooting, more<br />

detailed guidance is required, including advice that disturbance prior to <strong>the</strong> shooting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

woodland or moorland can cause material loss. .... (B/0347/X)<br />

There needs to be a balance struck between <strong>the</strong> duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> operators <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

machinery in areas where access taking is a frequent and regular occurrence (eg fields<br />

crossed by existing public footpaths) and simple comm<strong>on</strong> sense required by <strong>the</strong> random<br />

access taker who is <strong>on</strong> land unexpectedly and without any prior notificati<strong>on</strong>. (B/0628/X)<br />

There is a requirement under Secti<strong>on</strong> 3 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> H & S Act for <strong>the</strong> public to obey signs, this<br />

should be emphasised in <strong>the</strong> Code (H/1182/X)<br />

It is totally irresp<strong>on</strong>sible to suggest that a single interrupti<strong>on</strong> by an individual …..might<br />

not be unreas<strong>on</strong>able. Surely any interrrupti<strong>on</strong> is unreas<strong>on</strong>able? There is a danger that<br />

if <strong>on</strong>e interrupti<strong>on</strong> is regarded as reas<strong>on</strong>able it will be repeated, or may indeed be<br />

repeated by different people over <strong>the</strong> course <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a whole day, c<strong>on</strong>stituting c<strong>on</strong>tinuous<br />

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11e. land managers need<br />

standard signage to help<br />

manage access during /<br />

after work<br />

H/1182/X, H/0154/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0310/X, H/0460/X, H/0615/X,<br />

H/0807/X, H/0915/X, H/0941/X,<br />

H/0988/X, H/1103/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1058/X, L/0410/X, M/0852/X,<br />

N/0716/X, P/1237/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0928/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, R/0549/X, V/0207/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1141/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1289/X, W/1337/,<br />

W/0108/X/d, W/0124/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0231/X, W/0554/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0812/Y, W/0822/X,<br />

W/0853/X, W/0872/X, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0947/X/d, W/0999/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0664/X, X/0896/X,<br />

W/1359/X, W/1370/.<br />

B/1173/X, B/1267/X/d, B/0240/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/1267/X/d, E/0156/X,<br />

G/1192/X, G/0043/X, H/1140/X,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1247/X, P/1272/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/0287/X, P/1060/X,<br />

V/0245/X, W/1109/X, W/1220/X,<br />

W/0702/Y, W/0746/X, W/1288/X,<br />

X/1212/X, X/0495/X, X/0939/X.<br />

interrupti<strong>on</strong>. (J/1058/X)<br />

Many land management operati<strong>on</strong>s are slow and subtle changes (a developing<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> headland) or not immediately obvious (rearing grouse). Guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

less obvious operati<strong>on</strong>s and what to be aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> needs to be included. (P/0928/X)<br />

I feel <strong>the</strong> guidance is not str<strong>on</strong>g enough. What about, for example, forestry operati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

which can last for m<strong>on</strong>ths, and for which current HSE guidelines mean that people<br />

MUST be excluded from a 90m radius <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an operating harvester, and that <strong>the</strong> public<br />

MUST NOT share <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a forest track with operating forwarders? (W/0108/X/d)<br />

The <strong>draft</strong> Code provides guidance primarily <strong>on</strong>… agricultural land management<br />

operati<strong>on</strong>s. Land management operati<strong>on</strong>s regarding… <strong>the</strong> canal system may be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a<br />

different order involving <strong>the</strong> operati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> heavy plant in tightly circumscribed spaces… It<br />

is not appropriate for <strong>the</strong> public to determine what is a safe distance or what c<strong>on</strong>stitutes<br />

proceeding carefully - it is highly unlikely that many are competent to make such a<br />

judgement... In many cases a c<strong>on</strong>tractor will... be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for determining who may<br />

or may not enter. (X/0896/X)<br />

3.17 I would like to see a farmer being c<strong>on</strong>sulted wherever possible as to what is an<br />

acceptable route if <strong>the</strong>re is doubt, especially in growing crops including grass. I certainly<br />

am very happy to <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fer alternative soluti<strong>on</strong>s for <strong>the</strong> access taker. (X/0664/X)<br />

There must be an accepted form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> standardised signage that all land managers and<br />

authorities such as SNH and local councils can use which will alleviate any safety<br />

problems or areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>flict. (B/1267/X/d)<br />

We currently operate a prohibiti<strong>on</strong> sign system in <strong>the</strong> immediate vicinity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our (forestry)<br />

work sites and would urge you to c<strong>on</strong>sider <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>tinuing this practice in<br />

<strong>the</strong> interest <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public safety… I am sure that if this is presented in an acceptable manner<br />

stressing <strong>the</strong> dangers and <strong>the</strong> temporary nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> restricti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> access <strong>the</strong>n most<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>able pers<strong>on</strong>s wuld accept that it was quite necessary. (E/0156/X)<br />

Guidance within <strong>the</strong> Code <strong>on</strong> taking access over land where land management work is<br />

underway is sensible and workable. However, we feel that <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> main stays <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

ensuring this guidance remains workable is to ensure that both mandatory Health and<br />

Safety signs and advisory signs e.g. diversi<strong>on</strong>s, are erected promptly, are maintained<br />

and c<strong>on</strong>tain current informati<strong>on</strong>. (P/1272/X)<br />

A nati<strong>on</strong>al standard to any signage would be welcomed and it would be important that<br />

such sugns have full details <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>m, e.g. start and finish dates, nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> work,<br />

alternative route(s), c<strong>on</strong>tact numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible pers<strong>on</strong> to enable fur<strong>the</strong>r informati<strong>on</strong><br />

to be obtained etc. (P/0287/X)<br />

They could dem<strong>on</strong>strate by discreet signage/special symbol that <strong>the</strong>y accord with <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Access Code, <strong>the</strong>reby creating a respect and desire to act resp<strong>on</strong>sibly and<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>ably in <strong>the</strong> walker. (W/0746/X)<br />

How is <strong>the</strong> access seeker <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> residual hazards <strong>on</strong>ce work is complete?<br />

What level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signage, if any, would be deemed reas<strong>on</strong>able? … In several cases,<br />

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11f. o<strong>the</strong>rs A/1084/X, A/0319/X, A/0346/X,<br />

B/1063/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1129/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0329/X,<br />

B/0329/X, B/0512/X/d, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0678/X, B/0711/X, B/0755/X,<br />

B/0801/X, B/0801/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/0909/X, C/0070/X, E/1246/X,<br />

E/0516/X, E/0703/X, F/0748/X,<br />

G/0698/X, G/0920/Y, G/1099/X,<br />

G/1254/X, H/0808/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1203/X, K/0714/X, N/0694/X,<br />

N/0773/X, P/1066/X, P/1239/X,<br />

P/1275/X, P/1275/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/1273/X, Q/0264/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/0930/X, U/1172/X,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1310/X/d,<br />

W/0078/X, W/0242/X, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0403/X, W/0555/X, W/0700/X,<br />

W/0702/Y, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0800/X, W/1329/X,<br />

X/1067/X, X/0122/X.<br />

reference is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to sign-posting. For <strong>the</strong>se to be effective and c<strong>on</strong>sistent, a nati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

standard should be developed and adopted. Interfaces between <strong>the</strong> various groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access seekers need to be addressed. (X/1212/X)<br />

As most land management activities are visible <strong>the</strong> advice seems sensible. It would be<br />

preferable if silage bales were also menti<strong>on</strong>ed in <strong>the</strong> last sentence in paragraph 3.21.<br />

(A/0346/X)<br />

SUBMITTED that preferably Secti<strong>on</strong> 3 should have a paragraph dealing with Fisheries<br />

or <strong>the</strong>re should be a str<strong>on</strong>ger statement than in <strong>the</strong> present para 3.15 to emphasise <strong>the</strong><br />

importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rural businesses and naming businesses, such as farming, forestry,<br />

fishing and shooting. (B/1129/X)<br />

It appears to place additi<strong>on</strong>al burdens <strong>on</strong> land managers re informing <strong>the</strong> public <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

activities. May be workable in areas owned/managed by <strong>the</strong> Local Authorities, Forestry<br />

activities etc but less workable <strong>on</strong> small farms where such procedures are not comm<strong>on</strong><br />

practice at present. (B/1114/X/d)<br />

There is plenty about resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour <strong>on</strong> land, but virtually nothing about water.<br />

There should at least be some reference to fishing, and not disturbing anglers and <strong>the</strong><br />

water <strong>the</strong>y have paid to fish…Better still would be <strong>the</strong> additi<strong>on</strong> to this secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ano<strong>the</strong>r<br />

sub-heading devoted to access to water, and it should include advice <strong>on</strong> respecting<br />

anglers’ activities and <strong>the</strong> fact <strong>the</strong>y pay good m<strong>on</strong>ey for <strong>the</strong>ir sport... If people are<br />

advised to avoid walking through crops, it is surely equally right that <strong>the</strong>y should avoid<br />

damaging <strong>the</strong> crop expected from <strong>the</strong> river. Guidance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some sort is required here.<br />

(C/0070/X)<br />

Page 33. Para 3.21 Land management activity can be both visible and audible, but at<br />

night may <strong>on</strong>ly be audible. Reference should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to this. (J/1058/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> gives insufficient recogniti<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> fact that 'c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong>' and 'recreati<strong>on</strong>'<br />

management should also be c<strong>on</strong>sidered land management activities - it is very<br />

agriculture orientated. A rare species or habitat requiring protecti<strong>on</strong> could, if vulnerable<br />

to disturbance at certain times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> year, be c<strong>on</strong>sidered in <strong>the</strong> same way as a growing<br />

crop. Without this provisi<strong>on</strong>, it will be difficult to protect areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> habitat/sites supporting<br />

important species that are especially vulnerable. (K/0714/X)<br />

Users should simply be expected to be vigilant and avoid coming in c<strong>on</strong>tact with<br />

(disturbing) any land management operati<strong>on</strong>s. (W/0780/X)<br />

3.17 "Practical guidance <strong>on</strong>….'open hill' activities…" maybe? … 3.21 Include nature<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong>, archeological digs, survery activities if necessary. (W/1310/X/d)<br />

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Supplementary Comments - Does <strong>the</strong> Code provide adequate guidance <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible car<br />

parking?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

There should be more<br />

guidance <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

car parking<br />

A/1037/X, A/0098/X, A/0163/X,<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0958/X, B/1094/X,<br />

B/1146/X, B/1147/X, B/1173/X,<br />

B/1195/X, B/1261/X, B/0211/X,<br />

B/0215/X, B/0260/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0455/X, B/0472/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0512/X/d, B/0525/X/d,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0704/X, B/0845/X,<br />

B/0969/X, B/1281/X, B/1049/X,<br />

E/1113/X, G/0806/X, H/0915/X,<br />

H/1103/X, J/1058/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0804/X, P/0889/X,<br />

P/0928/X, P/1239/X, Q/1153/Z/d,<br />

Q/0499/X, W/1000/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1123/X, W/0095/X, W/0221/X,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0542/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/0822/X, W/0836/X, W/0999/X,<br />

W/1265/X, X/0495/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Within <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> 'What is resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour' para 3.3 refers to parking in fr<strong>on</strong>t <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

a gate when a farmer is working in a field. Surely, it is inc<strong>on</strong>siderate to park in fr<strong>on</strong>t <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

any gate at any time, not just when <strong>the</strong>re is some<strong>on</strong>e working in <strong>the</strong> field c<strong>on</strong>cerned?<br />

(A/0658/X/d)<br />

Car parking (P50) - <strong>the</strong> reference is vague and unclear. There should be a separate<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> car parking. (A/1037/X)<br />

The Code should specifically point out that <strong>the</strong>re should be no parking in farm gateways.<br />

(B/0215/X)<br />

It should be highlighted that you must not park cars in entrances and gateways at any<br />

time. It should also be pointed out that farm machinery can be very large and that cars<br />

should not be parked <strong>on</strong> narrow country roads. (B/0704/X)<br />

Blocked accesses can have serious c<strong>on</strong>sequences for forestry operators. Unfettered<br />

access must be available for <strong>the</strong> emergency services to deal with fire or accidents to<br />

people (not usually at work), for access to watercourses, and to reach breakdowns <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

fixed and mobile machinery. No gate should ever be blocked. Paragraph 3.3 wr<strong>on</strong>gly<br />

implies that it is OK to park in a field gateway unless <strong>the</strong>re is a visible farmer in <strong>the</strong> field<br />

or forester in <strong>the</strong> wood - <strong>the</strong> latter will probably be out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sight anyway. It should be<br />

emphasised that access may be required for large or awkward equipment so parking<br />

close to a gateway or access point may still effectively block it. (H/0915/X)<br />

It is important to highlight that car parking facilities should always be used where<br />

available and to ensure that access users do not park in a haphazard fashi<strong>on</strong> and that<br />

any parking does not cause rural verge damage. (P/0642/X)<br />

I have heard <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cases <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horse riders wanting to ride <strong>the</strong>ir horses over Forestry<br />

Commissi<strong>on</strong> trails and being told by <strong>the</strong> FC that <strong>the</strong>y cannot leave <strong>the</strong>ir trailer in <strong>the</strong> car<br />

park - <strong>the</strong> car is ok but not <strong>the</strong> trailer! Could <strong>the</strong>re be some guidance <strong>on</strong> this?<br />

(W/0095/X)<br />

I am also c<strong>on</strong>cerned about <strong>the</strong> proposals to allow access takers to park cars in gateways<br />

and <strong>on</strong> any field within 15 m <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> road should <strong>the</strong>y wish (W/0836/X)<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r B/1157/X, B/0181/X, J/1058/X. The reference parking sensibly should not be included in <strong>the</strong> Code. Parking is not<br />

relevant to <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access and is governed by <strong>the</strong> Highways Act. (J/1058/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

The majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents to this questi<strong>on</strong> felt str<strong>on</strong>gly that <strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code should be tightened to help prevent disturbance to land<br />

management. However, a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents did feel that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was clear, sensible and workable and presented in a reas<strong>on</strong>able way, with a<br />

few resp<strong>on</strong>dents expressing c<strong>on</strong>cerns that <strong>the</strong> guidance would result in new restricti<strong>on</strong>s, e.g. unnecessarily l<strong>on</strong>g closures for tree felling or shooting, or<br />

using potential hazards as a reas<strong>on</strong> for restricting access.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

C<strong>on</strong>cerns raised included:<br />

• c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> over provisi<strong>on</strong>s in <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 and those in Health and Safety legislati<strong>on</strong> which appear to allow access to be<br />

restricted <strong>on</strong> health and safety grounds;<br />

• a belief that statements encouraging users to follow advice <strong>on</strong> signs and from land managers is not str<strong>on</strong>g enough;<br />

• a c<strong>on</strong>cern that users are not sufficiently experienced to be able to identify hazards and land management issues, and to judge safe distances;<br />

• a recommendati<strong>on</strong> that users should be prepared to give way to land management operati<strong>on</strong>s, allow work to progress unhindered, and stay out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

fields while work is <strong>on</strong>going; and<br />

• that <strong>the</strong>re should be str<strong>on</strong>ger guidance to keep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f straw and hay bales and stacked timber.<br />

In additi<strong>on</strong>, <strong>the</strong>re was a str<strong>on</strong>g call in resp<strong>on</strong>ses for standard signage to help land managers with <strong>the</strong> practicalities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> managing for access. This should<br />

take account <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> perceived problems <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> night access and stressed <strong>the</strong> need to get <strong>the</strong> message across to children. In general, <strong>the</strong>re was more comment<br />

<strong>on</strong> low ground land management operati<strong>on</strong>s such as tree felling and crop spraying, as opposed to land uses such as deer stalking and grouse shooting.<br />

A number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> specific c<strong>on</strong>cerns was raised by land managers, local authorities and individuals about irresp<strong>on</strong>sible car parking. These c<strong>on</strong>cerns included<br />

blocking access to fields and forestry by parked cars, blocking narrow roads, damage to grass verges, horse trailers not being allowed in Forestry<br />

Commissi<strong>on</strong> car parks, and c<strong>on</strong>cerns over legislati<strong>on</strong> allowing parking <strong>on</strong> land up to 15m from pubic roads.<br />

C<strong>on</strong>cern was also raised that <strong>the</strong> emphasis <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> outdoors as a working envir<strong>on</strong>ment in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was over-emphasised.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

Clearly, <strong>the</strong> relati<strong>on</strong>ship between <strong>the</strong> advice in <strong>the</strong> Code and <strong>the</strong> Health & Safety at Work Act 1974 is key to addressing many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se issues. The<br />

Proposed Code has <strong>the</strong>refore <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> greater reference to health and safety and liability law, whilst at <strong>the</strong> same time retaining <strong>the</strong> basic approach <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

promoting comm<strong>on</strong> sense for both users and land managers. However, for some situati<strong>on</strong>s, <strong>the</strong> advice recognises that additi<strong>on</strong>al precauti<strong>on</strong>s, such as<br />

clear signage, will be required and that in <strong>the</strong> interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> health and safety, precauti<strong>on</strong>ary advice should be respected. Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code<br />

has also been revised to provide more detailed advice <strong>on</strong> specific situati<strong>on</strong>s and ensure that it accords with Health and Safety legislati<strong>on</strong>. SNH has<br />

worked closely with <strong>the</strong> Health & Safety Executive <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

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SNH acknowledges that supporting advice <strong>on</strong> signs will be required to ensure that <strong>the</strong>re is c<strong>on</strong>sistency across <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> situati<strong>on</strong>s which users may<br />

encounter.<br />

Although not within access rights, many people use <strong>the</strong>ir cars to travel to <strong>the</strong> outdoors. The Proposed Code includes some guidance <strong>on</strong> car parking. This<br />

takes into account <strong>the</strong> need to advise people not to block field gates, regardless <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> farmer is in <strong>the</strong> field or not. However, <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cern about <strong>the</strong><br />

prohibiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horse trailers from Forestry Commissi<strong>on</strong> car parks is an example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> where <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has to be supported by wider practical acti<strong>on</strong><br />

by recreati<strong>on</strong> managers and local authorities.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

12 - Do you think that <strong>the</strong> Code strikes <strong>the</strong> right balance between people being able<br />

to exercise access rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly and ensuring that any risks to animal health are<br />

minimised? If you d<strong>on</strong>’t, please explain why.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

12a. <strong>the</strong> Code strikes <strong>the</strong><br />

right balance<br />

A/1084/X, A/0009/X, A/0319/X,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0437/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0469/X, A/0471/X/d, A/0500/Y/d,<br />

A/0719/X/d, A/0723/X, A/0821/X/d,<br />

A/0825/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1152/X,<br />

B/0058/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0525/X/d, B/0772/X, E/1246/X,<br />

E/0703/X, G/0043/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0379/X, G/0785/X, G/0806/X,<br />

G/0917/X, G/0973/X, L/0439/X,<br />

P/1275/X, P/0287/X, P/0548/X,<br />

P/0576/X, P/0646/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1275/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0445/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/0686/X, U/0922/X, V/0207/X,<br />

W/1007/X, W/1023/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/0003/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0056/X/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0194/X, W/0214/X,<br />

W/0246/X, W/0255/X, W/0391/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0625/X, W/0644/X,<br />

W/0789/X, W/0972/X, W/1032/X,<br />

W/1377//d, X/0896/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

The Code has <strong>the</strong> correct balance with regard to animal health and passing through<br />

fields. (A/0471/X/d)<br />

Yes, especially in <strong>the</strong> light <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public resp<strong>on</strong>se to <strong>the</strong> 2001 FMD outbreak.<br />

(A/0500/Y/d)<br />

OK (B/1152/X)<br />

We believe <strong>the</strong> balance is right. (E/0703/X)<br />

Code adequate but leaflet to explain detail will be needed. (G/0973/X)<br />

We think that <strong>the</strong> right balance is struck between resp<strong>on</strong>sibility and risk here. (P/0646/X)<br />

By and large <strong>the</strong> Code does strike <strong>the</strong> right balance between people being able to<br />

exercise access rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly and ensuring that any risks to animal health are<br />

minimised. (Q/1122/X)<br />

Yes, <strong>the</strong> guidance seems to strike a reas<strong>on</strong>able balance here. (W/0003/X)<br />

423<br />

12b. no, <strong>the</strong> Code does<br />

not strike <strong>the</strong> right balance<br />

B/0054/X, H/0515/X, H/0988/X,<br />

Q/0501/X/d, V/0398/X/d, W/1315/,<br />

W/1316/, X/1174/X.<br />

No. (B/0054/X)<br />

As we were unable to identify which secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code dealt specifically with risks to<br />

animal health, we would suggest that this aspect has not been adequately addressed.<br />

(H/0988/X)<br />

No. In any field being grazed by farm animals it it inevitable that droppings will be<br />

present and widely scattered. Children and o<strong>the</strong>rs should avoid c<strong>on</strong>tact with such<br />

droppings because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> presence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> E-coli in <strong>the</strong> faeces. (Q/0501/X/d)<br />

No because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> following ~ Dogs may also get ticks/ring worm etc. ....~ Disposing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

dog dirt. .....~ Crop identificati<strong>on</strong> will be almost impossible for many accessing land. ..~<br />

Include reference to <strong>the</strong> impact <strong>on</strong> human health. ....~ Often gates are left open. .....~<br />

Animals can be stampeded by people with or without dogs .....~ Rubbish and litter can<br />

be harmful to livestock. .....(V/0398/X/d)<br />

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12c. <strong>the</strong> guidance overly<br />

restricts public access<br />

12d. tighter<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities are<br />

required <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> public<br />

A/0740/X, G/1044/X, G/1044/X,<br />

R/1278/X, W/0661/X.<br />

A/0133/X, A/0346/X, B/1041/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1093/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/1176/X, B/1177/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/0085/X, B/0312/X,<br />

B/0340/X, B/0347/X, B/0366/X,<br />

B/0409/X, B/0512/X/d, B/0565/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0613/X, B/0681/X,<br />

B/0715/X, B/0794/X, B/0863/X,<br />

B/0938/X/d, B/0970/X, B/0980/X,<br />

B/1039/X/d, B/1240/X, E/0923/X,<br />

E/0924/X, G/1098/X, G/0114/X,<br />

G/0960/X, G/1099/X, H/0310/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0552/X, H/0808/X,<br />

K/0444/X, N/1352/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/1273/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0157/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1139/X, W/1141/X,<br />

W/1151/X, W/1280/X, W/1287/X,<br />

W/0112/X, W/0143/X, W/0457/X,<br />

W/0555/X, W/0614/X, W/0812/Y,<br />

W/0864/X, W/0947/X/d, W/0986/X,<br />

W/1289/X, W/1373/, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d, X/0727/X.<br />

It is regretted that undue reference is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to <strong>the</strong> incidence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disease in dogs. The risk<br />

is extremely minimal and, unless adequate receptacles are provided, it is unreas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

to expect dog owners to lift dog fouling in circumstances where <strong>the</strong>y may be unable to<br />

dispose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it more or less immediately. (G/1044/X)<br />

3.25 is necessary but it could be framed in a more positive way. Patting and feeding<br />

animals, such as inquisitive cows at a field gate, can be an enjoyable part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people's<br />

access to <strong>the</strong> countryside, especially for children, and to define this as irresp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour seems a bit extreme......advise that <strong>the</strong>re are issues involved in feeding and<br />

touching animals but that it will not necessarily be irresp<strong>on</strong>sible to do in every<br />

circumstance. (R/1278/X)<br />

Under <strong>the</strong> Act it would be legitimate to picnic in a field with animals. This should be<br />

specifically discouraged <strong>on</strong> safety grounds in this secti<strong>on</strong> as well as secti<strong>on</strong> 5. .... The<br />

advice would apply equally to fields with horses. .... One issue that is inadequately<br />

covered is <strong>the</strong> feeding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock including horses. .... It requires greater prominence<br />

and should be covered in its own right in secti<strong>on</strong> 3. Many people like feeding horses but<br />

it can be dangerous and horses can be injured if <strong>the</strong>re is a squabble for food.<br />

(A/0346/X)<br />

... ill-informed innocent people are going to be killed by domesticated animals behaving<br />

in a manner that is normal practice in a domesticated animal's envir<strong>on</strong>ment. For<br />

example - at <strong>the</strong> mating seas<strong>on</strong> for both sheep and cattle and at <strong>the</strong> protective time<br />

when calves and lambs are <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> ground. (B/1041/X)<br />

The balance here is not right. Animal health must be c<strong>on</strong>sidered, including pigs, poultry<br />

and game. The Code must be streng<strong>the</strong>ned and tied in with <strong>the</strong> Farm Assurance<br />

Schemes and <strong>the</strong> advice <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> SEERAD. (E/0924/X)<br />

… this secti<strong>on</strong> is wr<strong>on</strong>g to refer just to farm animals. Horses should also be covered by<br />

<strong>the</strong> text and some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> points might be relevant to wild animals. There are dangers<br />

when taking access through fields c<strong>on</strong>taining certain types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> animals and <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

should provide more detailed guidance than it does at present. Horses have sometimes<br />

attacked walkers, ..... we also think that <strong>the</strong> Code should give general advice like looking<br />

into a field before entering, and assessing whe<strong>the</strong>r you can see <strong>the</strong> whole <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> field;<br />

and whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> field is stock-pro<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ed, which is an indicati<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong>re are likely to be<br />

animals in <strong>the</strong>re. (G/1099/X)<br />

...guidance should be more explicit and state that those exercising access rights should,<br />

whenever possible, avoid fields c<strong>on</strong>taining livestock. This is particularly pertinent when<br />

accompanied by dogs, and when children are present. (H/0808/X)<br />

The Code points out <strong>the</strong> problems that animals can cause for people - not <strong>the</strong> problems<br />

people cause animals. There should be a balance here. (P/1273/X)<br />

We would like to see this secti<strong>on</strong> streng<strong>the</strong>ned to dissuade access takers from going<br />

close to livestock. (Q/1178/X)<br />

...it probably needs to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that animals includes not <strong>on</strong>ly sheep, pigs and<br />

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12e. <strong>the</strong> Code should add<br />

reference to <strong>the</strong> dangers<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> litter and waste to<br />

animals<br />

12f. Biosecurity<br />

Regulati<strong>on</strong>s need to be<br />

better reflected in <strong>the</strong><br />

Code<br />

B/1027/X, B/0300/X/d, B/0413/X,<br />

B/0456/X, B/0943/X, B/1125/X,<br />

F/0998/X, P/0890/X, P/0890/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/1272/X, Q/0016/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, W/0100/d, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0533/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0990/X/d.<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0671/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/1049/X, B/1083/X/d, B/1096/X,<br />

B/1101/X, B/1104/X, B/1108/X,<br />

B/1126/X, B/1142/X, B/1143/X,<br />

B/1176/X, B/1177/X, B/1205/X,<br />

B/1208/X, B/1244/X, B/1262/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/1269/X, B/1281/X,<br />

B/1293/X, B/1328/X, B/0141/X,<br />

B/0152/X, B/0167/X, B/0215/X,<br />

B/0227/X/d, B/0240/X, B/0257/X,<br />

B/0257/X, B/0275/X, B/0313/X,<br />

cattle, but also horses, deer, poultry etc. (W/0986/X)<br />

Insufficient advice is given regarding <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>trol <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs. It would be useful to point out<br />

that dogs not under c<strong>on</strong>trol and caught in <strong>the</strong> act <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> worrying stock can be shot. No<br />

proper account is given <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> problems inherent in taking access through fields<br />

c<strong>on</strong>taining stock with particular needs, or possessing uncertain behaviour.This secti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

needs clear advice that any such field c<strong>on</strong>taining easily disturbed animals or excitable<br />

animals must be avoided. There is more to visiting fields c<strong>on</strong>taining animals than <strong>the</strong><br />

health c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong>s summarised in <strong>the</strong> Code. The right balance has not been struck.<br />

(X/0099/X)<br />

I have experienced <strong>the</strong> ag<strong>on</strong>y <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an animal dying because it had eaten a sandwich<br />

thrown into a field. The sandwich was not to blame, it was <strong>the</strong> plastic wrapper which<br />

could not be digested. Empty cans, broken bottles, and plastic rings holding cans are<br />

also a danger to both animals and birds. (B/0456/X)<br />

...extremely c<strong>on</strong>cerned about <strong>the</strong> potential for litter to be left by those taking access. Not<br />

<strong>on</strong>ly is this unsightly but also dangerous and polluting. It is recognised that litter poses a<br />

threat to livestock and formalised access rights enhance that risk entirely at <strong>the</strong> farmer's<br />

cost. (B/0943/X)<br />

...c<strong>on</strong>cern..that less<strong>on</strong>s from foot and mouth…have been heeded….about <strong>the</strong><br />

transmissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> disease from say discarded sandwich c<strong>on</strong>tents such as meat<br />

imported from a country that is infected. (F/0998/X)<br />

The dangers posed by litter to both livestock and wildlife should be highlighted within <strong>the</strong><br />

code, choking hazards, lacerati<strong>on</strong>s etc. (P/1272/X)<br />

Bar-B-Q fires <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> beach with <strong>the</strong> drift wood, who will c<strong>on</strong>trol this activity, <strong>the</strong> people<br />

d<strong>on</strong>'t understand <strong>the</strong> risk this can cause to sheep & o<strong>the</strong>r animals that use <strong>the</strong> shore.<br />

(Q/0016/X)<br />

many animals are known to have been injured by litter … <strong>the</strong> code should clearly<br />

indicate that any<strong>on</strong>e found smoking without prior permissi<strong>on</strong> from those living and<br />

working in an area, or leaving litter, immediately <strong>the</strong>reby waives <strong>the</strong>ir access rights and<br />

are required to leave if asked (W/0990/X/d)<br />

People crossing intensively farmed areas can affect <strong>the</strong> accreditati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> herds.<br />

(A/0320/X/d)<br />

Quality Assurance: Farmers have been encouraged to enter quality assurance schemes,<br />

which have numerous rules and yet <strong>the</strong> code directly encourages access to areas or<br />

through areas which may jeopardise <strong>the</strong> farmer's qualificati<strong>on</strong>s to stay in or enter such a<br />

scheme. (B/1017/X)<br />

Bio security code tells us to keep visitors to a minimum/keep a record <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> who visits/allow<br />

visits <strong>on</strong>ly by appointment and most importantly keep <strong>the</strong>m away from your livestock.<br />

<strong>Outdoor</strong> access code would allow NONE <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se measures to take place. (B/1142/X)<br />

…<strong>the</strong> general public are unable to differentiate between bullocks, bulls, heifers and<br />

cows. Disturbance in such fields by walkers and in particular those with a dog create a<br />

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12g. <strong>the</strong> dangers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

disease and faeces need<br />

to be recognised in <strong>the</strong><br />

Code<br />

B/0342/X/d, B/0366/X, B/0376/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0404/X, B/0443/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/0481/X, B/0488/X/d,<br />

B/0535/X, B/0538/X, B/0568/X,<br />

B/0571/X, B/0574/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0628/X, B/0704/X, B/0733/X,<br />

B/0802/X, B/0814/X, B/0816/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0837/X, B/0858/X,<br />

B/0879/X, B/0970/X, B/0983/X,<br />

B/0994/X, B/1009/X, B/1207/X,<br />

B/0294/X, E/1201/X, E/0523/X,<br />

E/0616/X, G/1192/X, H/1140/X,<br />

H/1196/X, H/1276/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/1103/X, H/0310/X,<br />

J/1058/X, L/0513/X, L/0647/X,<br />

N/0716/X, P/1060/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1237/X, P/1272/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/1300/X, P/0375/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/0643/X, P/0717/X,<br />

P/0804/X, P/0869/X, Q/1184/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, Q/0739/X, W/1012/X,<br />

W/1102/X/d, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1263/X, W/1287/X, W/1289/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/1318/, W/0002/X,<br />

W/0064/X, W/0217/X, W/0402/X,<br />

W/0402/X, W/0407/X, W/0417/X,<br />

W/0524/X, W/0541/X, W/0709/X/d,<br />

W/0767/X, W/0836/X, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0990/X/d, X/1067/X, X/1115/X,<br />

X/1188/X, X/1212/X, X/1298/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0639/X, X/0652/X,<br />

X/0664/X, X/0784/X, X/1385/X.<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/0658/X/d, A/0671/X,<br />

B/1022/X, B/1093/X, B/1094/X,<br />

B/1104/X, B/1236/X, B/1281/X,<br />

B/1322/d, B/0085/X, B/0160/X,<br />

B/0171/X, B/0215/X, B/0317/X,<br />

B/0331/X, B/0366/X, B/0404/X,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0428/X/d, B/0465/X,<br />

risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> biosecurity (B/1177/X)<br />

The next point is horses. I can't stand <strong>the</strong>m anyway. We are not supposed to allow<br />

animals to move from <strong>on</strong>e farm to ano<strong>the</strong>r without notifying SEERAD for bio-security<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>s. If <strong>the</strong>re is a movement <strong>on</strong>to my farm I can't sell animals for 21 days.<br />

(B/1262/X)<br />

There is insufficient evidence <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bio-security. Guidance should be given<br />

with reference to animal health regarding vaccinati<strong>on</strong> for those exercising dogs and<br />

horses. Members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Farm Assurance Schemes are obliged to worm dogs at six m<strong>on</strong>thly<br />

intervals. Access takers should comply with this also and be prepared to provide pro<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

when required. (B/1281/X)<br />

Biosecurity and organic status: If gates are left open and stock from neighbouring farms<br />

mix, <strong>the</strong>re will be an automatic thirteen-day standstill. Similarly, we have full organic<br />

status, and if our stock stray <strong>on</strong>to n<strong>on</strong>-organic ground or n<strong>on</strong>-organic stock stray <strong>on</strong>to<br />

our ground and mix with our stock, we lose our organic status. If forestry gates are left<br />

open and feral sheep stray <strong>on</strong>to farmland, <strong>the</strong>y are very likely to spread sheep scab.<br />

(B/0342/X/d)<br />

We believe <strong>the</strong>re are serious flaws in <strong>the</strong> Code with regard to access to land c<strong>on</strong>taining<br />

animals, particularly in <strong>the</strong> light <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> biosecurity issues… The right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to land<br />

c<strong>on</strong>taining livestock <strong>the</strong>refore jeopardises such security measures imposed by ano<strong>the</strong>r<br />

Government Department and highlights <strong>the</strong> imbalances c<strong>on</strong>tained in <strong>the</strong> new legislati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(E/0616/X)<br />

No. The Code pays scant regard to Biosecurity, <strong>the</strong> dangers to human health, animal<br />

health and to <strong>the</strong> commercial requirements ... <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> quality assurance schemes. (H/0941/X)<br />

It should be noted that <strong>the</strong> 13-day movement rule is operated against a background <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Separati<strong>on</strong> Agreements negotiated between stockholders and SEERAD AGOs. The<br />

c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> use require that farmer to prevent any access to <strong>the</strong> Separati<strong>on</strong> Area by<br />

people, vehicles and livestock o<strong>the</strong>r than those authorised by <strong>the</strong> stockholder and<br />

obeying proper due to Bio security requirements. Clearly <strong>the</strong> access code at present<br />

does not provide for this situati<strong>on</strong>. The farmer will have no c<strong>on</strong>trol over <strong>the</strong> movement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

people, horses, dogs and mountain bikes through <strong>the</strong>se areas. Will he/she be in defualt<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legally binding agreement with SEERAD? (X/1298/X)<br />

The Code demands in para 3.37 that dogs should not go into fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> vegetables or fruit,<br />

nor <strong>on</strong> to play and sports areas because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> diseases that <strong>the</strong>y may transmit. Yet in<br />

para 3.38 <strong>the</strong> Code advises dog owners to dispose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog dirt safely in <strong>the</strong>se and similar<br />

places, ….. Some clarity here would be welcomed. (A/0658/X/d)<br />

No. There is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horses and <strong>the</strong> diseases <strong>the</strong>y can spread to o<strong>the</strong>r horses.<br />

What is <strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong> about horse dung and <strong>the</strong> diseases it may carry? Dog excrement<br />

should be removed in <strong>the</strong> same way as is required in many parks etc. (B/1093/X)<br />

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B/0466/X/d, B/0473/X/d, B/0568/X,<br />

B/0569/X, B/0677/X, B/0681/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0745/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0819/X, B/0830/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0839/X, B/0842/X, B/0862/X,<br />

B/0885/X, B/0909/X, B/0938/X/d,<br />

B/0942/X/d, B/0954/X, B/0964/X,<br />

B/0965/X/d, B/0970/X, B/1216/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/1292/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

E/1215/X, G/0132/X, G/1099/X,<br />

H/1327/X, H/0959/X, J/1051/X,<br />

J/1058/X, M/0438/X, M/0454/X,<br />

M/0852/X, P/1272/X, P/1275/X,<br />

P/0492/X, P/0899/X, Q/1184/X,<br />

Q/0177/X, W/1011/X, W/1014/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1170/X, W/1209/X,<br />

W/0002/X, W/0109/X, W/0529/X,<br />

W/0555/X, W/0618/X, W/0693/X,<br />

W/0735/X, W/0770/X/d, W/0817/X,<br />

W/0817/X, W/0903/X, W/0947/X/d,<br />

W/1235/X, X/1212/X, X/0122/X,<br />

X/0748/X, X/0784/X.<br />

12h. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0098/X, A/0362/X, A/0927/X,<br />

A/0958/X, B/1240/X, B/0257/X,<br />

B/0306/X, B/0312/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0683/X, B/0913/X, B/0937/X,<br />

B/0946/X, B/1267/X/d, G/0759/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1251/X, G/1330/X/d,<br />

H/1179/X, L/1026/X, P/1060/X,<br />

P/1247/X, P/0642/X, P/0804/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, Q/0707/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1130/X, W/1153/Z/d, W/1189/X,<br />

W/1235/X, W/1310/X/d, W/1337/,<br />

W/0140/X, W/0168/, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0708/X/d, W/0744/X,<br />

As a member <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Specially Selected Scotch Farm Assurance, I am c<strong>on</strong>cerned that <strong>the</strong><br />

strict codes I have to adhere to with my own stock and farm dogs (veterinary records<br />

including worming) would be breached by people with dogs and horses which I would<br />

have no veterinary details <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>. (B/1322/ /d)<br />

E coli. We note <strong>the</strong> attitude <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> health authorities to protecting <strong>the</strong> public from<br />

c<strong>on</strong>taminati<strong>on</strong> with animal dung, leading to E coli outbreaks. Current regulati<strong>on</strong>s limit<br />

Agricultural Shows to using land which has had no livestock <strong>on</strong> it for a period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 21 days.<br />

The new access rights will allow, even encourage, <strong>the</strong> public to move am<strong>on</strong>g fresh<br />

animal droppings and urine, with possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>taminati<strong>on</strong> for adults, children and<br />

pets. This is in our view a fur<strong>the</strong>r argument for directing <strong>the</strong> public al<strong>on</strong>g fenced rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

way, as noted above. (E/1215/X)<br />

...why it is advised that dogs carry diseases and should not <strong>the</strong>refore be allowed <strong>on</strong>to<br />

sports pitches etc but are allowed <strong>on</strong>to golf courses! This is inc<strong>on</strong>sistent and needs to<br />

be addressed. (J/1051/X)<br />

Walkers and dogs going from a n<strong>on</strong> accredited to an accredited herd/flock could be a<br />

means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> spreading disease, for example BVD in cattle and Scrapie in sheep.<br />

(M/0438/X)<br />

If <strong>the</strong>re is a serious problem, not just anecdotal, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs infecting livestock <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>re is<br />

a case to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> for dogs carrying a 'health passport' recording immunisati<strong>on</strong> and<br />

ownership. A 'credit card' attached to <strong>the</strong> collar would identify at a glance which dogs<br />

are properly vaccinated etc. (P/1275/X)<br />

Dog excrement…<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten c<strong>on</strong>tains round and tape worms and bacteria which can be<br />

passed <strong>on</strong> to grazing sheep infecting <strong>the</strong>m, with disastrous c<strong>on</strong>sequences. The effect is<br />

much worse with organic livestock because <strong>on</strong>ly a limited range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> drugs can be<br />

administered to <strong>the</strong>m compared to c<strong>on</strong>venti<strong>on</strong>al livestock. (W/1011/X)<br />

Danger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> transfer <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disease. The Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982 and <strong>the</strong> Dog<br />

Fouling (Scotland) Act 2003 do not apply to agricultural land - why? (X/0122/X)<br />

Yes, but this applies to all animals, cattle, sheep, horses, pigs, poultry, etc. (A/0362/X)<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r livestock, such llamas, ostriches and horses, can be hostile to people. More<br />

thought needs to be given to this secti<strong>on</strong>, to provide <strong>the</strong> public with a better<br />

understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> potential risks <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> taking access where <strong>the</strong>re is livestock, and <strong>the</strong><br />

need to take resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sequences <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s if <strong>the</strong>y go through a field<br />

with livestock. (B/0574/X)<br />

...c<strong>on</strong>cerns about various pests and diseases being spread by people….. We got<br />

Raspberry Root Rot from infected raspberry canes, <strong>the</strong> plantati<strong>on</strong> had to be removed but<br />

<strong>the</strong> virus is still in <strong>the</strong> soil. We know where it is and operate strict hygiene practices to<br />

avoid this being spread to <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r plantati<strong>on</strong>s. If some<strong>on</strong>e walked over this bit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

infected ground <strong>the</strong>n walked al<strong>on</strong>g .. our fruiting plantati<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> plantati<strong>on</strong> would be<br />

infected. (B/0913/X)<br />

Do members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public all know what a safe distance is - should a minimum distance<br />

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W/0780/X, W/0780/X, W/0873/X,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/0986/X, W/1367/.<br />

be suggested or a more categorical - keep away from all animals. More informati<strong>on</strong> is<br />

required <strong>on</strong> how to behave near livestock. The public need to know what impact <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

activities can have <strong>on</strong> livestock .. (P/1060/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> needs to make it clear that farm animals d<strong>on</strong>'t just live in fields. (para 3 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

covering letter.) (Q/0707/X)<br />

Somewhere in <strong>the</strong> Code <strong>the</strong> danger from Lymes' Disease should be stressed.<br />

(W/0744/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

A majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents sought tighter guidance <strong>on</strong> a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> issues associated with animal health, with <strong>on</strong>ly a minority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents feeling that this<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was reas<strong>on</strong>ably well balanced. A few resp<strong>on</strong>dents thought that <strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was too restrictive and laboured,<br />

e.g. in relati<strong>on</strong> to dogs.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

C<strong>on</strong>cerns raised included:<br />

• littering;<br />

• diseases carried by dog and horse faeces;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need for dog worming;<br />

• impacts <strong>on</strong> quality assurance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fruit and vegetables;<br />

• effects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> visitors feeding farm animals;<br />

• keeping a safe distance from livestock (<strong>the</strong> possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users becoming infected by livestock as well spreading disease <strong>the</strong>mselves); and<br />

• resp<strong>on</strong>ding to disease outbreaks, e.g. foot and mouth,<br />

Overall, <strong>the</strong>se comments, and particularly those from land management interests, sought <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code to better reflect <strong>the</strong> Biosecurity Code issued<br />

by <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Guidance in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code already covered some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> issues raised, for example, requesting users not to drop litter and not to feed animals, but <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code reflects <strong>the</strong> wider c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised by providing more advice <strong>on</strong>:<br />

• c<strong>on</strong>sidering alternative routes before entering a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock;<br />

• what to do in <strong>the</strong> event <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a notifiable c<strong>on</strong>tagious disease breaking out;<br />

• removing faeces if your dog defecates in public open places;<br />

• take away all litter, including food and associated packaging; and<br />

• not parking a vehicle in a field where <strong>the</strong>re is livestock<br />

The Proposed Code also reflects <strong>the</strong> advice in <strong>the</strong> Animal Biosecurity Code which is aimed at recreati<strong>on</strong>al users. SNH has also worked closely with <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Executive <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code.<br />

The guidance in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code <strong>on</strong> gates (leaving <strong>the</strong>m as you find <strong>the</strong>m) reflects <strong>the</strong> soluti<strong>on</strong> favoured by NFU Scotland. SNH has, however, retained<br />

<strong>the</strong> advice <strong>on</strong> picnicking. Points raised about not lighting fires <strong>on</strong> beaches and not smoking <strong>on</strong> farmland without <strong>the</strong> owner's permissi<strong>on</strong> were rejected.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

13 - Do you think that <strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> Code strikes a reas<strong>on</strong>able balance<br />

between people exercising access rights through fields and <strong>the</strong> interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land<br />

managers? If you d<strong>on</strong>’t, please explain why.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

13a. <strong>the</strong> Code strikes <strong>the</strong><br />

right balance<br />

A/1084/X, A/0009/X, A/0319/X,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0442/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0621/Y, A/0719/X/d, A/0821/X/d,<br />

A/0825/X, B/1152/X, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0525/X/d, B/0565/X, B/0937/X,<br />

G/1251/X, G/1254/X, G/0043/X,<br />

G/0189/X, G/0379/X, G/0759/X,<br />

G/0785/X, G/0806/X, G/0917/X,<br />

G/0960/X, G/0973/X, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0439/X, P/1218/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1275/X, P/0287/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0646/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0686/X, V/0922/X,<br />

W/1130/X, W/0003/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0056/X/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0108/X/d, W/0112/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/0214/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0391/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0644/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/1373/, W/1377//d,<br />

X/0099/X, X/0196/X, X/0405/X/d.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

I particularly like <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people to enjoy farmland and <strong>the</strong> comm<strong>on</strong> sense code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

behaviour expected to go with it. (A/0621/Y)<br />

Yes, if heeded. (B/0300/X/d)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong> is well balanced and <strong>the</strong> right is important. (G/1254/X)<br />

The appropriate balance has been found in this area. (P/1218/X)<br />

In general yes. (U/0922/X)<br />

Although <strong>the</strong>re will be many grey areas, I think <strong>the</strong> code does set out a reas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

balance. (W/0214/X)<br />

The Code is here not unreas<strong>on</strong>able. (X/0099/X)<br />

529<br />

13b. no <strong>the</strong> Code doesn’t<br />

strike <strong>the</strong> right balance<br />

B/0054/X, B/0282/X, B/0406/X,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0510/X, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0755/X, H/0460/X,<br />

P/0643/X, W/1235/X, W/0100/d,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0641/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0880/X/d.<br />

The main problem appears to result from a failure to clearly differentiate between access<br />

being taken in open versus enclosed areas. (B/0282/X)<br />

"You can exercise access rights through fields where <strong>the</strong>re are farm animals". (3.24).<br />

We feel this statement requires fur<strong>the</strong>r qualificati<strong>on</strong> and guidance to both <strong>the</strong> access<br />

taker and provider. Some<strong>on</strong>e walking a dog through a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cows and calves is in<br />

danger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> being attacked if <strong>the</strong>y get between a cow and its calf. Stags in deer farms can<br />

lose <strong>the</strong>ir fear <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> humans and attack particularly during rutting seas<strong>on</strong>... Walking through<br />

a flock <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> newly lambed ewes can result in lambs being aband<strong>on</strong>ed, disturbing heavily<br />

pregnant ewes can cause ewes to abort. Guidance should be given to access takers <strong>on</strong><br />

how to avoid such situati<strong>on</strong>s. (B/0443/X)<br />

Most members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public cannot identify <strong>the</strong> difference between wheat, barley and<br />

grass. In view <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> different rights applying <strong>the</strong>reto <strong>the</strong> Code must give clear guidance<br />

<strong>on</strong> this and what to do if <strong>the</strong>re is doubt. (B/0754/X)<br />

No. To many farmers and landowners GRASS - AT ANY STAGE OF GROWTH OR<br />

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13c. No - <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

wr<strong>on</strong>g: <strong>the</strong> Code overly<br />

restricts public access<br />

13d. No - <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

wr<strong>on</strong>g: <strong>the</strong> Code should<br />

place tighter<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

public<br />

A/0126/X, A/0740/X, G/1291/X,<br />

Q/1308/X, W/0789/X, W/0833/X,<br />

W/1370/, X/0727/X.<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0346/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0796/X/d, B/1002/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1131/X, B/1144/X,<br />

B/1145/X, B/1150/X/d, B/1164/X,<br />

B/1176/X, B/1195/X, B/1210/X,<br />

B/1216/X, B/1244/X, B/1248/X,<br />

B/1253/X, B/1269/X, B/1303/X/d,<br />

B/1334/X, B/1335/, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0069/X, B/0209/X, B/0226/X,<br />

B/0227/X/d, B/0257/X, B/0275/X,<br />

B/0282/X, B/0288/X/d, B/0313/X,<br />

B/0329/X, B/0376/X, B/0396/X/d,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0413/X, B/0428/X/d,<br />

B/0456/X, B/0462/X, B/0472/X,<br />

B/0488/X/d, B/0512/X/d, B/0538/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0568/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0633/X, B/0677/X, B/0741/X,<br />

LENGTH - IS A CROP. A very important crop for grazing animals, and even a horse <strong>on</strong><br />

a wet field can make a terrible mess. (W/0100/d)<br />

Points covered are all reas<strong>on</strong>able but somewhat laboured <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> acti<strong>on</strong>s to be taken by<br />

those exercising <strong>the</strong>ir statutory rights whilst giving little guidance to land managers who<br />

might needlessly or recklessly interfere with those rights - this material is elsewhere - <strong>the</strong><br />

divisiveness c<strong>on</strong>tinues to <strong>the</strong> detriment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> document. (A/0740/X)<br />

The advice in paragraphs 3.27 and 3.28 is incorrect in that it implies that <strong>the</strong> access<br />

cannot be taken where crops have been sown or where damage might be caused. In<br />

fact <strong>the</strong> Act and Parliamentary discussi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that <strong>the</strong>re are some circumstances<br />

where this is acceptable. ... Acces can be taken <strong>on</strong> field margins, headrigs and endrigs<br />

even if this results in some damage to <strong>the</strong> crop. The Parliament clearly accepted this<br />

situati<strong>on</strong> when <strong>the</strong> term "unsown field margins" was amended to "field margins" in <strong>the</strong><br />

stage 3 debate as a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a Government amendment. ... The Code implies, in <strong>the</strong><br />

sec<strong>on</strong>d bullet point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 3.28 that if a path or track is present in a field <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> field margin<br />

should not be used. This is wr<strong>on</strong>g. There is nothing in <strong>the</strong> Act ... to suggest that <strong>the</strong>re<br />

should be a preference for access to be taken al<strong>on</strong>g a path or track in a field ra<strong>the</strong>r than<br />

al<strong>on</strong>g a field margin. It needs to be clear from <strong>the</strong> Code that if a crop could be damaged<br />

by taking access in <strong>the</strong> general area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> field <strong>the</strong>n paths or tracks should be used to<br />

cross <strong>the</strong> field and field margins used to go round <strong>the</strong> edge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> field. ... (G/1291/X)<br />

There is no obvious reas<strong>on</strong> why access in cultivated fields should not also be permitted<br />

eg al<strong>on</strong>g vehicle tracks (caused by eg spraying tractors) and between drills <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

vegetables - in additi<strong>on</strong> to field margins. In all instances, single-file access might be<br />

emphasised. (W/0789/X)<br />

You are placing <strong>the</strong> public in possible danger by encouraging <strong>the</strong>m into fields with stock.<br />

(A/0320/X/d)<br />

No. Walking in unsown areas might be feasible but riding and cycling would not.<br />

(B/1093/X)<br />

Unattended equipment. It is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten necessary for good reas<strong>on</strong> to leave machines or<br />

equipment unattended in fields, forests or <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r land…… There should be str<strong>on</strong>g<br />

guidance in <strong>the</strong> code not to approach <strong>the</strong>m or allow children to approach <strong>the</strong>m, certainly<br />

not to climb <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>m or tamper with <strong>the</strong>m and if it is necessary to pass closely, to do so<br />

without loitering. (B/1094/X)<br />

3.29 Passing through fields. 3.29 suggests, by using <strong>the</strong> term "unsown ground" that it<br />

would be perfectly feasible to cross a growing crop by unsing a tramline by arguingthat<br />

this is unsown ground. I think this is unsatisactory and requires clarificati<strong>on</strong>. I <strong>on</strong>ce<br />

encountered two people pushing bicycles up tramlines in <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my crops. This<br />

essentially turns our growing crops into a free for all, creating all sorts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> problems, and I<br />

do not think it represents <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what is intended. (B/1216/X)<br />

Regarding crops it is overlooked that Grass is our most important and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten <strong>on</strong>ly crop. ....<br />

And can be damaged by parties <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walkers to say nothing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bikers and horse riders.<br />

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13e. more guidance is<br />

needed <strong>on</strong> access around<br />

field margins<br />

B/0760/X, B/0797/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0802/X, B/0814/X, B/0816/X,<br />

B/0850/X, B/0862/X, B/0879/X,<br />

B/0895/X, B/0909/X, B/0925/X,<br />

B/0946/X, B/0956/X, B/0964/X,<br />

B/0965/X/d, B/0966/X, B/0294/X,<br />

B/1365/X, D/1206/X, D/0093/X,<br />

E/1074/X, H/1103/X, H/1327/X,<br />

H/1349/X, H/0310/X, H/0515/X,<br />

H/0988/X, J/1058/X, J/1058/X,<br />

L/0513/X, M/0438/X, M/0454/X,<br />

M/0687/X, M/0734/X, N/1352/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/1275/X, P/0317/X,<br />

P/0375/X, P/0384/X, P/0717/X,<br />

P/0804/X, P/0899/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0499/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/0824/X, V/0398/X/d, W/1007/X,<br />

W/1010/X, W/1011/X, W/1012/X,<br />

W/1014/X, W/1021/X, W/1088/X,<br />

W/1109/X, W/1139/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1315/, W/1321/, W/0083/X,<br />

W/0159/X, W/0193/X/d, W/0222/X,<br />

W/0261/X, W/0277/X, W/0297/X,<br />

W/0407/X, W/0435/X, W/0447/X,<br />

W/0448/X, W/0464/X, W/0554/X,<br />

W/0614/X, W/0635/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0853/X,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/0955/X, W/0971/X,<br />

W/0990/X/d, W/1287/X, X/1174/X,<br />

X/0122/X, X/0149/X, X/0639/X,<br />

X/0652/X, X/0652/X, X/0652/X,<br />

X/0664/X, X/0896/X.<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/0706/X, A/0796/X/d,<br />

B/1075/X, B/1083/X/d, B/1091/X,<br />

B/1093/X, B/1101/X, B/1107/X,<br />

B/1108/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1121/X,<br />

B/1125/X, B/1126/X, B/1164/X,<br />

B/1167/X, B/1216/X, B/1236/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1250/X, B/1261/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/1281/X, B/1328/X,<br />

(B/0376/X)<br />

The Code produces muddled and c<strong>on</strong>flicting advice, completely devoid <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comm<strong>on</strong><br />

sense… The comm<strong>on</strong> sense approach would be to state simply that, as a general rule,<br />

it is undesirable and inappropriate to enter fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock, particularly with a dog.<br />

(B/0628/X)<br />

The code is weak <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people taking access rights to fields that are<br />

used for e.g grazing. (D/0093/X)<br />

3.24 - 3.26 - This secti<strong>on</strong> - especially 3.24 - needs to be enhanced. Livestock and<br />

people do not mix, and <strong>the</strong> dangers to <strong>the</strong> public from cows & calves have been<br />

seriously underplayed. In additi<strong>on</strong>, <strong>the</strong> problems for ewes & young lambs in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

disturbance and mis-mo<strong>the</strong>ring have also been understated. The particular problems for<br />

public safety associated with cattle should be spelt out. .....More thought needs to be<br />

given to this secti<strong>on</strong>, to provide <strong>the</strong> public with a better understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> potential<br />

risks <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> taking access where <strong>the</strong>re is livestock, and that <strong>the</strong>y must take resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for<br />

<strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sequences <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s if <strong>the</strong>y go through a field with livestock. (H/1103/X)<br />

The Code should be re-written very specifically to prohibit people with dogs from<br />

entering any field enclosures where livestock are present, regardless <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> time <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> year<br />

or <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> dog lead! (N/1352/X)<br />

No. It is weighted in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker who <strong>on</strong>ly has to act "resp<strong>on</strong>sibly"<br />

whereas <strong>the</strong> land owner has to implement strategies, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten at some expense, to<br />

manage/allow access. Resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access takers could be more str<strong>on</strong>gly stated.<br />

(P/0384/X)<br />

3.27 It is not always apparent when a newly cultivated field has been sown with a crop<br />

and damage could occur to <strong>the</strong> crop prior to germinati<strong>on</strong>. (W/1109/X)<br />

Field edges - how wide will <strong>the</strong> field edges be? Twelve inches may be sufficient for a<br />

cyclist or a walker but not for a horse and rider. (A/0706/X)<br />

With reference to field margins where envir<strong>on</strong>mental schemes are in place <strong>the</strong><br />

agreement does not permit access by <strong>the</strong> farmer for any purpose for <strong>the</strong> preservati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> wildlife…… The rules <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se schemes does not permit riding al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> strip as this<br />

would adversely affect <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> field margins. In <strong>the</strong> code p47 it<br />

says you can cycle and horse ride around <strong>the</strong> field margins but this is not allowed under<br />

such schemes as <strong>the</strong> RSS. (B/1121/X)<br />

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13f. more guidance is<br />

needed <strong>on</strong> crossing field<br />

boundaries without stiles /<br />

gates<br />

B/0211/X, B/0270/X, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0329/X, B/0368/X, B/0396/X/d,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0409/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0462/X, B/0465/X, B/0493/X,<br />

B/0512/X/d, B/0563/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0672/X, B/0711/X,<br />

B/0715/X, B/0756/X, B/0787/X/d,<br />

B/0794/X, B/0980/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/0294/X, B/1374/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0923/X, E/1382//d, H/1196/X,<br />

H/1103/X, J/1058/X, N/1138/X,<br />

N/1352/X, P/1273/X, P/0492/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/0642/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0928/X, Q/1061/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/1286/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

Q/0479/X, R/1278/X, V/1172/X,<br />

W/1088/X, W/1102/X/d, W/1109/X,<br />

W/1110/X, W/1112/X, W/1123/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1163/X, W/1170/X, W/1202/X,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1264/X, W/1280/X,<br />

W/1289/X, W/1315/, W/0140/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0217/X, W/0276/X,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0407/X, W/0508/X,<br />

W/0541/X, W/0629/X, W/0661/X,<br />

W/0702/Y, W/0709/X/d, W/0812/Y,<br />

X/1092/X, X/1212/X, X/1298/X,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0784/X, X/1385/X.<br />

B/1078/X, B/1205/X, B/1244/X,<br />

B/1303/X/d, B/0288/X/d, B/0326/X,<br />

B/0340/X, E/0351/X, E/0924/X,<br />

G/1098/X, H/1196/X, J/1058/X,<br />

L/0513/X, N/0716/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/0575/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0804/X, Q/1061/X, Q/1308/X,<br />

V/1172/X, W/1163/X, W/0348/X/d,<br />

W/0407/X, X/1212/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/0784/X.<br />

There is a requirement for clarity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informati<strong>on</strong> and guidance as <strong>the</strong>re is still c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong><br />

as to whe<strong>the</strong>r people taking access al<strong>on</strong>g c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> headlands or field margins that<br />

are funded through <strong>the</strong> rural stewardship scheme or o<strong>the</strong>r agri-envir<strong>on</strong>mental schemes<br />

will not affect payments......it is wr<strong>on</strong>g that access users should be encouraged to walk<br />

al<strong>on</strong>g field margins where ei<strong>the</strong>r a crop may be damaged or wildlife disturbed.<br />

(B/0980/X)<br />

More encouragement should be given to follow paths where <strong>the</strong>se exist. It should be<br />

recognised that field margins may need to be protected for wildlife. (E/0923/X)<br />

Directing access takers (<strong>on</strong> foot, bike and horse riders) to take access around field<br />

margins will cause wildlife habitat destructi<strong>on</strong> and jeopardise wild bird breeding success.<br />

Although you state that <strong>the</strong>re is little evidence to suggest that public access al<strong>on</strong>g field<br />

margins results in <strong>the</strong> loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wildlife, this is because no c<strong>on</strong>clusive research has been<br />

undertaken, and <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>verse may well be <strong>the</strong> case. (J/1058/X)<br />

There was c<strong>on</strong>cern in <strong>the</strong> forum regarding riding horses around field margins, this could<br />

well be problematic and requires more guidance <strong>on</strong> where and when this is an<br />

acceptable access right. (P/0492/X)<br />

It would be beneficial to make clear that if fields are sown right up to <strong>the</strong> edge, that<br />

access users are still entitled to go round <strong>the</strong> edge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields, if necessary over crops<br />

growing <strong>the</strong>rein. (P/0642/X)<br />

In respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> eventual practical applicati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code, it is presumed that a field<br />

margin used for access can be c<strong>on</strong>sidered to be as wide as it needs to be to provide<br />

access. A walker could manage with 450 mm. A rider with horse would require ra<strong>the</strong>r<br />

more... Can we treat a set-aside field as a recreati<strong>on</strong> park or is it not quite so simple?<br />

(Q/0479/X)<br />

Fences, hedges and walls (dykes) cost m<strong>on</strong>ey to erect and are not designed for <strong>the</strong><br />

public to scramble over, causing damage every time <strong>on</strong>e crosses a boundary.<br />

(B/1244/X)<br />

The questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to fields o<strong>the</strong>r than by gates or o<strong>the</strong>r access points should be<br />

dealt with specifically in <strong>the</strong> Code. (B/1078/X)<br />

No, <strong>the</strong> guidance is not reas<strong>on</strong>able… The Code almost seems to encourage fence<br />

climbing where <strong>the</strong>re is no alternative. If a fence post breaks as a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> fence<br />

being climbed, would this be <strong>the</strong> pers<strong>on</strong>al risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker or <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Land Manager? The soluti<strong>on</strong> is through a properly funded core path network.<br />

(E/0924/X)<br />

A locked gate impeding access by cycles, horses, pushchairs, etc. - <strong>the</strong>re may be a stile<br />

or kissing gate nearby but this <strong>on</strong>ly allows a proporti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those wishing to take access<br />

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13g. <strong>the</strong> guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> hay / silage is<br />

inadequate<br />

A/0320/X/d, A/0346/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1108/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1148/X/d,<br />

B/1183/X, B/1190/X, B/1199/X,<br />

B/1210/X, B/1240/X, B/1250/X,<br />

B/1253/X, B/1281/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/1292/X, B/1347/X, B/0171/X,<br />

B/0183/X, B/0226/X, B/0227/X/d,<br />

B/0270/X, B/0300/X/d, B/0419/X,<br />

B/0461/X, B/0462/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

B/0512/X/d, B/0538/X, B/0633/X,<br />

B/0802/X, B/0830/X, B/0956/X,<br />

B/1375/, E/1113/X, E/1211/X,<br />

G/1099/X, H/1140/X, H/1196/X,<br />

H/1327/X, H/0310/X, H/0552/X,<br />

J/1058/X, L/0513/X, L/0647/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1273/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0804/X, Q/1061/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/1230/X, Q/1252/X,<br />

Q/1286/X, Q/1346/X, Q/0177/X,<br />

Q/0206/X, Q/0499/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

V/1172/X, W/1109/X, W/1123/X,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1170/X, W/1289/X,<br />

W/1316/, W/1321/, W/0056/X/d,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0221/X, W/0348/X/d,<br />

W/0354/X/d, W/0556/X, W/0567/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0649/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/1298/X, X/1345/X, X/0784/X.<br />

to do so. Where <strong>the</strong>re is a field gate across a path it should be unlocked and easily<br />

unfastened unless <strong>the</strong>re is a good reas<strong>on</strong> for doing so - e.g. <strong>the</strong> first gate <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f a road<br />

should be locked, with alternative self closing pedestrian (horse/cycle/pram friendly) gate<br />

provided. (P/1273/X)<br />

If a fence is blocking access to a well used path can walkers climb over and possibly<br />

damage <strong>the</strong> fence if no o<strong>the</strong>r access provisi<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>? (Q/1308/X)<br />

'Use gates and o<strong>the</strong>r access where <strong>the</strong>se have been provided'. Implies that it is alright<br />

to climb fences and o<strong>the</strong>r barriers if <strong>the</strong> gate is <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r side <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a field. In an<br />

increasingly litigious society <strong>the</strong>re will, no doubt, be occasi<strong>on</strong>s where individuals seek<br />

compensati<strong>on</strong> for some injury which <strong>the</strong>y c<strong>on</strong>sider to be caused by negligence <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Manager; or <strong>the</strong> Land Manager seeks to recover c<strong>on</strong>sequential loss due<br />

to damage caused by access seekers (X/1212/X)<br />

It fails for example to differentiate between crops where established grass has been<br />

allowed to grow and where fields have been newly sown. In a newly sown field<br />

significant damage can be d<strong>on</strong>e if it is crossed before <strong>the</strong> root systems become<br />

established. This would particularly be <strong>the</strong> case with access by horses or cyclists. It<br />

would <strong>the</strong>refore be preferable if <strong>the</strong> Code str<strong>on</strong>gly advised those seeking access always<br />

to keep to field margins in newly sown fields or to seek an alternative route. It is also<br />

important to avoid c<strong>on</strong>taminati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> crop. While this is menti<strong>on</strong>ed in secti<strong>on</strong> 5 it is<br />

absent from secti<strong>on</strong> 3. It would be better if this secti<strong>on</strong> also emphasised that leaving<br />

litter in fields is not resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (A/0346/X)<br />

As grass is a crop especially here in <strong>the</strong> West <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland it should be treated as such<br />

with access <strong>on</strong>ly across a path or round field margins. It is unreas<strong>on</strong>able to expect <strong>the</strong><br />

public to assess damage, ie 7 inches OK, 8 inches NOT (B/1183/X)<br />

Grass that has been sown for silage can also be damaged at an earlier stage than 8<br />

inches in height… Horses or cyclists will cause greater damage than a solitary walker.<br />

(B/0512/X/d)<br />

Why is grass not a crop? It costs <strong>the</strong> same as barley to get established, about £120 an<br />

acre… I am 6 feet tall and my ankle b<strong>on</strong>e is 3.5 inches from <strong>the</strong> ground… Why should<br />

horses be allowed to walk <strong>on</strong> this land when it has been rolled for cutting? (B/0802/X)<br />

Most occasi<strong>on</strong>al visitors to <strong>the</strong> countryside would not recognise <strong>the</strong> difference between<br />

fields growing grass for cutting as hay or silage and those with crops until <strong>the</strong> crop was<br />

ripening. The differentiati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights between <strong>the</strong> two is <strong>the</strong>refore pointless.<br />

(H/1327/X)<br />

The rules and details <strong>on</strong> grass given in <strong>the</strong> code are complicated. I suggest that most<br />

n<strong>on</strong>-specialist countryside users would find <strong>the</strong> regulati<strong>on</strong>s difficult to remember.<br />

(W/0221/X)<br />

How can <strong>the</strong> access seeker be sure which crops are destined for human c<strong>on</strong>sumpti<strong>on</strong>?<br />

How do <strong>the</strong>y discriminate between immature cereal crops and grass? (X/0784/X)<br />

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13h. more guidance is<br />

needed for horse riders<br />

and cyclists passing<br />

through fields<br />

A/0228/X, B/1025/X, B/1176/X,<br />

B/1311/X, B/1335/, B/0314/X,<br />

B/0329/X, B/0329/X, B/0465/X,<br />

B/0568/X, B/0571/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0634/X, B/0956/X, H/0959/X,<br />

P/1272/X, Q/0016/X, Q/0256/X,<br />

W/0242/X, W/0267/X, W/0301/X,<br />

W/0402/X, W/0641/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/0979/X, W/0986/X.<br />

13i. o<strong>the</strong>r A/1070/X/d, A/0098/X, A/0253/X/d,<br />

A/0369/X/d, A/0437/X, A/0958/X,<br />

B/1125/X, B/1177/X, B/1311/X,<br />

B/0142/X, B/0178/X, B/0218/X,<br />

B/0254/X, B/0340/C/, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0493/X, B/0538/X, B/0731/X,<br />

B/0772/X, B/0839/X, B/0937/X,<br />

B/300/X/d, G/1099/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/0831/X, G/0917/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0497/X, H/0941/X, H/0959/X,<br />

J/1051/X, J/1058/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/1239/X, Q/0707/X, V/1172/X,<br />

V/0207/X, W/1000/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1151/X, W/1217/X, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1319/, W/0096/X, W/0194/X,<br />

W/0217/X, W/0239/, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0297/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0817/X, W/1289/X,<br />

X/1067/X, X/0784/X.<br />

One over-riding c<strong>on</strong>cern … is <strong>the</strong> apprently equal status it accords to those seking<br />

access <strong>on</strong> foot, by bicycle and <strong>on</strong> horseback. … Given <strong>the</strong> potential for causing damage<br />

to fragile areas particularly from horses, but also from cycles, <strong>the</strong>se classes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users<br />

need to be subject to a far more robust approach. (B/1025/X)<br />

Does that mean that horse riders can go through our fields making huge divots when in<br />

actual fact we take our cattle out so not to poach <strong>the</strong> land and what is to stop people<br />

from letting <strong>the</strong>ir horses graze <strong>the</strong> grass when going through saving <strong>the</strong>m from feeding<br />

costs. (B/0314/X)<br />

Horses and cycles can damage grazing land if <strong>the</strong>y take access when it is s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t after<br />

rainfall, and although this is touched <strong>on</strong> in paragaraph 3.6, <strong>the</strong> lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> emphasis <strong>on</strong> how<br />

serious it could become is unacceptable. (B/0465/X)<br />

Cycling and horse riding round margins could have a damaging effect <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> rearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

game species. (W/0641/X)<br />

Observati<strong>on</strong>s such as "cycling and horse riding can have more severe impacts <strong>on</strong> s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t or<br />

wet ground than walking" are wholly inadequate. Given <strong>the</strong> widespread ignorance<br />

am<strong>on</strong>gst <strong>the</strong> general public, it is vital that clear examples are given <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unreas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

interference (W/0986/X)<br />

Where <strong>the</strong>re are references to 'limiting' access, <strong>the</strong> code should clearly state that Act<br />

does not allow landowners to fully close <strong>the</strong>ir land. (A/0958/X)<br />

The code may give adequate advice for most farm field operati<strong>on</strong>s but not where stock is<br />

being moved. More advice is needed <strong>on</strong> this point. (B/0446/X)<br />

The Code to make greater reference to <strong>the</strong> 'open hill' or to 'fields and open land'. Needs<br />

to be more balanced. Open hills references need to be expanded - guidance needs to<br />

be provided <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <strong>on</strong> all and where livestock, especially pregnant ewes,<br />

ewes and young lambs and cows and calves are present . ... statements should refer to<br />

land where livestock - not fields. (H/0959/X)<br />

Under ….<strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> referring to 'Passing through fields' …..suggest that golf courses<br />

are specifically included in <strong>the</strong> same advice to clearly outline both <strong>the</strong> restricti<strong>on</strong>s and<br />

opti<strong>on</strong>s for access. (J/1051/X)<br />

Maybe those exercising <strong>the</strong>ir access rights should have to pass an exam in resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour in <strong>the</strong> countryside and be certificated. (W/1151/X)<br />

…<strong>the</strong> commercial growing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> lawn turf … presents a situati<strong>on</strong> which might be covered in<br />

<strong>the</strong> table. It is a particularly valuable crop and easily damaged, especially when recently<br />

sown or wet. I think it should be treated like o<strong>the</strong>r, n<strong>on</strong>-grass crops and not walked over.<br />

(W/0194/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

The vast majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> expressed str<strong>on</strong>g c<strong>on</strong>cerns that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code needed c<strong>on</strong>siderable improvements to <strong>the</strong> advice <strong>on</strong> exercising rights<br />

through fields, with <strong>on</strong>ly a minority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents feeling that <strong>the</strong> guidance was sensible and well balanced, or was over-restrictive.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

In c<strong>on</strong>sidering <strong>the</strong>se issues, <strong>the</strong> assessment covers livestock and crops separately.<br />

Livestock - The key issues raised were related to c<strong>on</strong>cerns about:<br />

• <strong>the</strong> potential injuries to users, e.g. from suckler cows;<br />

• injuries to livestock, e.g. from disturbance before and at lambing time;<br />

• risks associated with o<strong>the</strong>r livestock, such as deer (stags and hinds) and horses (including aggressi<strong>on</strong> between grazing and visiting animals); and<br />

• disturbance to livestock <strong>on</strong> open land.<br />

Many land managers echoed <strong>the</strong> line taken by NFU Scotland that people should be physically separated from livestock. Those who expressed <strong>the</strong>se<br />

c<strong>on</strong>cerns preferred to have users restricted to paths, particularly when accompanied by dogs, at crucial times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year. From land managing interests,<br />

<strong>the</strong>re was a str<strong>on</strong>g wish for people and livestock to be separated as <strong>the</strong>y are felt to be incompatible. There was a particular c<strong>on</strong>cern that cattle can react<br />

aggressively in certain circumstances, especially in <strong>the</strong> presence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs, with <strong>the</strong> potential for injuries or even death to users highlighted.<br />

Fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crops - The key issues raised included:<br />

• <strong>the</strong> damage that walkers, cyclists and horse riders could do to crops where <strong>the</strong>se crops are planted right up to <strong>the</strong> edge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields or if attempting to<br />

use tramlines or o<strong>the</strong>r spaces between crops (even though crops are exempt from <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access);<br />

• <strong>the</strong> damage that walkers, cyclists and horse riders could do to grass crops grown for hay and silage during all stages <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> growth, i.e. from newly<br />

sown to that rolled for cutting and not just at late growth stage;<br />

• c<strong>on</strong>cerns that many people are unable to discriminate between grass types and that <strong>the</strong> proposed "ankle height" measure is impractical due to<br />

physical differences between people and different crop heights at cutting times around <strong>the</strong> country;<br />

• cumulative horse damage to fields during very wet wea<strong>the</strong>r, especially where land managers have removed livestock to protect grass and soil; and<br />

• damage and disturbance to wildlife in field margins, particularly from cyclists and horse riders.<br />

In general, many land managers wished people and crops to be separated, with more encouragement to use paths for taking access.<br />

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Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

Livestock - The starting point for addressing <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cerns is that access rights will extend to fields where <strong>the</strong>re is livestock. This reflects that under <strong>the</strong><br />

present access arrangements, <strong>the</strong>re is already access through such fields with relatively few incidents. However, changes to <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code do reflect<br />

many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> wider issues raised, including:<br />

• spelling out <strong>the</strong> issues, especially hazards and risks more clearly, with more advice <strong>on</strong> when and why cattle (and o<strong>the</strong>r stock) might react<br />

aggressively;<br />

• menti<strong>on</strong>ing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r animals, such as deer and horses;<br />

• that dog owners should look at alternative routes before entering fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock, and that when in such a field, dogs should be kept under close<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol and let go if cattle become threatening; and<br />

• stressing that for livestock <strong>on</strong> open land, disturbance can be avoided by giving <strong>the</strong>m a wide birth and keeping dogs under c<strong>on</strong>trol.<br />

Fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crops - Advice has been added to <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code to reflect comments by advancing:<br />

• avoiding crop damage by encouraging people to use paths where <strong>the</strong>y exist; and<br />

• keeping to <strong>the</strong> field margins if no paths exist but minimising damage where <strong>the</strong> field margin is narrow.<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has also been streng<strong>the</strong>ned to provide fur<strong>the</strong>r practical advice <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se issues. In making <strong>the</strong>se changes, SNH c<strong>on</strong>siders<br />

that <strong>the</strong> balance between <strong>the</strong> interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those exercising access rights and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager has been maintained in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code. C<strong>on</strong>cerns<br />

raised in a few <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> that <strong>the</strong> advice in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was overly restrictive have been rejected (i.e. that <strong>the</strong>re was too much emphasis <strong>on</strong><br />

keeping to paths; and that <strong>the</strong>re should be more emphasis <strong>on</strong> access in fields where crops are not growing).<br />

Clearly, <strong>the</strong> access educati<strong>on</strong> programme will also play an important role in supporting this secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code through acti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> appropriate signage and<br />

provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informati<strong>on</strong>, and encouraging farmers to devise farm access plans. A good core path network will also help to integrate access and land<br />

management.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

14 - The Code stresses <strong>the</strong> need to take care whilst enjoying <strong>the</strong> natural and cultural<br />

heritage. Do you think <strong>the</strong> guidance strikes a fair balance between protecting this<br />

resource and encouraging people to enjoy and appreciate it? If you d<strong>on</strong>’t think that<br />

<strong>the</strong> balance is fair, please explain why.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

14a. <strong>the</strong> guidance strikes<br />

<strong>the</strong> right balance<br />

14b. No – <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

wr<strong>on</strong>g, <strong>the</strong> Code puts too<br />

many restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong><br />

public access<br />

A/0009/X, A/0425/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0471/X/d, A/0518/X, A/0821/X/d,<br />

A/0825/X, A/1084/X, A/0740/X,<br />

A/0719/X/d, A/0319/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/0772/X, B/1114/X/d, B/0565/X,<br />

B/0300/X/d, E/0616/X, E/1246/X,<br />

G/0189/X, G/0806/X, G/0785/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/1179/X, L/0439/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0646/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/1060/X, P/0576/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/1275/X, P/1275/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0264/X, Q/0445/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, U/0922/X, V/0207/X,<br />

W/0003/X, W/0017/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0056/X/d, W/0194/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0246/X, W/0108/X/d, W/0100/d,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0423/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0644/X, W/1032/X,<br />

W/1151/X, W/0972/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/1007/X, W/0359/X, W/1235/X,<br />

W/0391/X, W/1373/.<br />

A/0927/X, G/0917/X, G/1044/X,<br />

G/1291/X, G/1330/X/d, G/1214/X,<br />

L/0153/, R/1278/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

The Code does strike a fair balance between protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment and<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (A/0471/X/d)<br />

The guidance <strong>on</strong> Cultural & Natural Heritage is basic but good (A/0740/X)<br />

Yes, if heeded. (B/0300/X/d).<br />

The code appears satisfactory in this matter. (E/0616/X)<br />

This part seems to be clear and has been promoted for many years through<br />

mechanisms such as <strong>the</strong> old country code. (P/1219/X)<br />

These matters are fairly put and explained; it may be c<strong>on</strong>sidered too lenient, but I accept<br />

<strong>the</strong> statements. (W/0143/X)<br />

The guidance is not clear and does not strike a balance… written in a negative way and<br />

gives very little encouragement for people to enjoy and appreciate <strong>the</strong>ir natural<br />

heritage… It could be argued that by simply walking across vegetati<strong>on</strong> those plants that<br />

are actually trodden up<strong>on</strong> are being "damaged" and wildlife al<strong>on</strong>g or adjacent to <strong>the</strong><br />

route taken may be "alarmed". Surely this is not intended... To encourage people to<br />

enjoy, appreciate and respect wildlife... is best achieved in a positive manner. (A/0927/X)<br />

If 3.2 is taken literally <strong>on</strong>e would not dare to walk in <strong>the</strong> countryside at all, so sweeping is<br />

<strong>the</strong> wording. We would like a more realistic statement and reference <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to <strong>the</strong><br />

Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. (G/0917/X)<br />

Code fur<strong>the</strong>r restricts dog owners with reference to <strong>the</strong> disturbance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> nesting birds and<br />

<strong>the</strong> period April to July. The wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this secti<strong>on</strong> effectively bans dogs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f lead from<br />

wide areas for a significant part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year…… It is fur<strong>the</strong>r probable that birds are just<br />

as pr<strong>on</strong>e to disturbance at o<strong>the</strong>r times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year and <strong>the</strong>re is <strong>the</strong>refore a danger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this<br />

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14c. No – <strong>the</strong> balance is<br />

wr<strong>on</strong>g, <strong>the</strong> Code should<br />

place tighter<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

public<br />

14d. more guidance is<br />

needed <strong>on</strong> protecting <strong>the</strong><br />

natural heritage<br />

A/0477/X, A/0163/X, A/0362/X,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0054/X, B/0186/X,<br />

B/0171/X, B/0254/X, B/0257/X,<br />

B/0436/X, B/0470/X, B/0472/X,<br />

B/0480/X, B/0152/X, B/0167/X,<br />

B/0496/X, B/0633/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/1049/X, B/1199/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/1267/X/d, B/1309/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1208/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0404/X, B/1267/X/d, E/0523/X,<br />

E/0516/X, E/0616/X, G/0043/X,<br />

H/0158/X, H/0515/X, H/0497/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/0310/X, H/1348/X,<br />

L/0125/X, L/0507/X, P/0717/X,<br />

P/0375/X, P/1272/X, Q/0157/X,<br />

Q/0517/X, Q/0499/X, U/1172/X,<br />

V/0398/X/d, W/0641/X, W/0007/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0199/X, W/0173/X,<br />

W/0435/X, W/0271/X, W/0524/X,<br />

W/0524/X, W/0635/X, W/0812/,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/1112/X, W/0979/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/0950/X/d, W/1355/X,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0495/X, X/0784/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/0405/X/d.<br />

A/0098/X, A/0469/X, A/0838/X,<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/1082/X, A/0671/X,<br />

A/0291/X, A/0958/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0436/X, B/0488/X/d, B/0118/X,<br />

B/0275/X, B/0443/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0139/X, B/0141/X,<br />

restricti<strong>on</strong> being extended. (G/1044/X)<br />

...it is important to recognise that natural heritage is robust and that damage caused by<br />

access is in most cases localised and limited……..any recommendati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> restricti<strong>on</strong><br />

should be based <strong>on</strong> sound evidence for its need and should be appropriate….. Some<br />

impact <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment is inevitable and unavoidable and should be accepted as<br />

such. It is important to appreciate that impact <strong>on</strong> natural heritage from access is in most<br />

cases unintenti<strong>on</strong>al and n<strong>on</strong>-malicious. (R/1278/X)<br />

…<strong>the</strong>re is little evidence to suggest public access al<strong>on</strong>g field margins results in <strong>the</strong> loss<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wildlife. This is a sweeping statement that utterly lacks credibility. Perhaps <strong>the</strong>re has<br />

been no attempt to discover evidence. What is quite certain is that horses, at least, will<br />

damage wild flowers and plant life and <strong>the</strong>y should not be permitted to do so. (B/0171/X)<br />

We disagree most str<strong>on</strong>gly with SNH that access has little impact <strong>on</strong> wildlife havens<br />

such as headlands and field margins <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten deliberately left as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> agri-envir<strong>on</strong>ment<br />

schemes to provide suitable habitat for wildlife. (E/0516/X)<br />

The Rural Stewardship Scheme (RSS) has as <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it's rules a requirement to prevent<br />

access by <strong>the</strong> general public to areas allocated to Water Margins etc. The code must<br />

cover this point to try to protect sites that are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> specific interest to wildlife. (B/0257/X)<br />

Insufficient emphasis is placed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> dropping <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> litter and permitting dogs to foul <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside. (B/0801/X)<br />

3.35 - It would be helpful to remind people that it is not <strong>on</strong>ly dangerous but it is an<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence to leave litter behind. This secti<strong>on</strong> could emphasise <strong>the</strong> point that litter-bins are<br />

generally not provided and so people must take litter away with <strong>the</strong>m. (H/1103/X)<br />

More emphasis <strong>on</strong> polluti<strong>on</strong> in 3.35. (L/0125/X)<br />

The point is relevant to swimming... and <strong>on</strong> areas designated as SSSI's, SPA's,<br />

Ramsar's, SAC's would a seas<strong>on</strong>al limit be appropriate <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se water bodies? This<br />

would help prevent unnecessary disturbance to wildlife using <strong>the</strong> water during <strong>the</strong><br />

breeding seas<strong>on</strong>. (L/0507/X)<br />

Much good work is being undertaken following scientific research to correct <strong>the</strong> neglect<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> previous decades including <strong>the</strong> fencing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> river banks to restore riparian habitat and<br />

spawning beds from excess erosi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> traffic, be it sheep, deer or human. The new<br />

code has to be specific in recognising such works as areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> exclusi<strong>on</strong> for access.<br />

(W/0524/X)<br />

Souvenir hunters and users <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> metal detectors must be discouraged…..Human waste<br />

should be treated no less vigorously than dog waste. (W/0812/)<br />

There should also be general advice about treading lightly, leaving no traces <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong>e's<br />

visit and treading quietly, respectful <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment. (A/0098/X)<br />

...worth menti<strong>on</strong>ing that both orange peel and paper, even toilet paper, do not degrade<br />

readily and should ei<strong>the</strong>r be removed or buried. (A/0838/X)<br />

…aspect that requires re-emphasising is <strong>the</strong> effect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disturbance <strong>on</strong> breeding birds in<br />

<strong>the</strong> spring and that access users should remain <strong>on</strong> paths at all times from April to July.<br />

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B/0141/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0628/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/0794/X, B/0788/X, B/0760/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/1072/X, B/1063/X,<br />

B/1173/X, B/1167/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/1131/X, B/1121/X,<br />

B/1096/X, B/1093/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/0966/X, B/0980/X, B/0980/X,<br />

B/0681/X, B/0677/X, B/0676/X,<br />

B/0662/X, B/1295/X, B/1292/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/1248/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0538/X, B/1347/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0313/X, B/1205/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/0937/X, B/1374/X/d,<br />

E/0921/X, E/0923/X, E/1038/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/1099/X, G/0960/X,<br />

G/0973/X, G/0730/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/1251/X, H/0220/X, H/0515/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/1103/X, H/1140/X,<br />

H/1128/X, H/1179/X, H/0988/X,<br />

H/0674/X, H/1222/X, H/0941/X,<br />

H/0959/X, J/1284/X, K/0441/X,<br />

K/1302/X, K/1241/X, K/0722/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0065/X, L/0153/,<br />

L/0520/X, L/1055/X, M/0852/X,<br />

N/0137/X, N/0694/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0804/X, P/0642/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/1247/X, P/1218/X, Q/0016/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0526/X, Q/1111/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/0739/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/1286/X, Q/0344/X,<br />

R/1221/X, V/0914/X, V/0975/X,<br />

W/0014/X, W/0047/X, W/0053/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0214/X, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0083/X, W/0429/X, W/0886/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, W/0130/X/d,<br />

W/0277/X, W/0457/X, W/0457/X,<br />

W/0511/X, W/0629/X, W/0625/X,<br />

W/0800/X, W/0780/X, W/0767/X,<br />

W/0614/X, W/1052/X/d, W/1166/X,<br />

(B/0980/X)<br />

The list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> areas where ground-nesting birds are likely to be breeding and rearing young<br />

is far from complete. At a minimum, woodland hedgerows and thickets <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bushes,<br />

brambles, scrub etc should be added. (B/0525/X/d)<br />

There should be reference to <strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disturbing wildlife at night and <strong>on</strong> places such as<br />

islands. (E/0923/X)<br />

Str<strong>on</strong>ger advice is required that disturbance to wildlife should be a c<strong>on</strong>cern at all times<br />

but that, particularly during breeding seas<strong>on</strong>s, recreati<strong>on</strong>al visitors should remain <strong>on</strong><br />

footpaths. (H/1179/X)<br />

It will be imperative, for <strong>the</strong> protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> salm<strong>on</strong>, otters and freshwater pearl mussels,<br />

that <strong>the</strong> integrity and stability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> riverbanks is not jeopardised unreas<strong>on</strong>able by intensive<br />

use or intrusive incursi<strong>on</strong>s into riverways. (H/1222/X)<br />

The informati<strong>on</strong> supporting this is not yet adequate and needs to be expanded to enable<br />

members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public to make decisi<strong>on</strong>s. The additi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples relating to animals,<br />

plants and habitats might be helpful. For example, more emphasis should be placed <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> potential for damage to fragile vegetati<strong>on</strong>, and that far worse damage is likely to be<br />

caused by cycling or horse riding that by walking. (K/1241/X)<br />

The natural heritage secti<strong>on</strong> (paras 3.32 and 3.33) is extremely brief. It does not give<br />

examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> type <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wildlife that, and/or situati<strong>on</strong>s where wildlife, may be adversely<br />

affected by access. Nature reserves and o<strong>the</strong>r areas specifically managed for wildlife<br />

and <strong>the</strong> enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wildlife are inadequately addressed. (K/1302/X)<br />

The Code needs to examine in more detail, and give fur<strong>the</strong>r advice, <strong>on</strong> access in relati<strong>on</strong><br />

to sites designated for nature c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> interest; and <strong>the</strong> possible negative effects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access <strong>on</strong> wildlife over time. … This should include fish - particularly at spawning times<br />

in small burns, and to avoid polluti<strong>on</strong> people should be encouraged to take <strong>the</strong>ir litter<br />

away and dispose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it resp<strong>on</strong>sibly ideally at a recycling point. (P/1247/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> few individual landowners in <strong>the</strong> area did however raise c<strong>on</strong>cerns which were<br />

principally about c<strong>on</strong>trol and protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> areas designated as SSSIs and SAC's where<br />

excessive and free ranging traffic <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horse and pedestrian could have a devastating<br />

effect <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> flora <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such areas. (Q/0344/X)<br />

Include a statement <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> collecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> geological specimens and fossils (para 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

covering letter.) (Q/0707/X)<br />

In paragraphs 3.35 and 3.36, <strong>the</strong>re should be some recogniti<strong>on</strong> that in many parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Highlands private domestic water supplies are still taken straight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> hill without<br />

fur<strong>the</strong>r purificati<strong>on</strong>. Picnickers and campers from more developed regi<strong>on</strong>s do not always<br />

appreciated <strong>the</strong> polluti<strong>on</strong> risk. (W/1016/X)<br />

...fire was possibly <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> most serious threats to <strong>the</strong> natural envir<strong>on</strong>ment, this<br />

matter should be given more prominence in <strong>the</strong> code. (X/1385/X)<br />

However I failed to find reference to not touching or moving wild animals (such as deer<br />

calves) or wild birds. (X0664/X)<br />

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14e. more guidance is<br />

needed <strong>on</strong> protecting <strong>the</strong><br />

cultural heritage<br />

W/1162/X, W/1158/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1139/X, W/1130/X,<br />

W/1123/X, W/1112/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1189/X, W/0962/X/d, W/1016/X,<br />

W/0735/X, W/0708/X/d, W/1321/,<br />

W/1315/X/d, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1011/X, W/1014/X, W/1023/X,<br />

W/0354/X/d, W/1377/ /d, X/0196/X,<br />

X/0129/X, X/0122/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1115/X, X/0099/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/0664/X, X/0664/X, X/1385/X.<br />

B/0613/X, B/1187/X, B/0672/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/0973/X, G/0379/X,<br />

H/0807/X, H/0988/X, K/0441/X,<br />

L/0527/X, L/0659/X, P/0491/X,<br />

P/0575/X, Q/0424/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

R/1221/X, W/0434/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1227/X/d, W/0947/X,<br />

X/0896/X, X/0656/X, X/0099/X.<br />

14f. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0844/X, A/0719/X/d, B/0085/X,<br />

B/0160/X, B/0634/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0840/X, B/0755/X, B/0731/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0558/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

H/0615/X, M/0463/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/548/X, P/1237/X,<br />

‘you can do this by not' this sounds as if care for our cultural heritage is<br />

opti<strong>on</strong>al…….Please make it clear that <strong>the</strong> activities menti<strong>on</strong>ed in this secti<strong>on</strong> are<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible and incompatible with any rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access. (B/0672/X)<br />

Many Estates across Scotland have a rich variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> historic sites including buildings,<br />

designed landscapes and ancient m<strong>on</strong>uments, …access to <strong>the</strong>se sensitive sites for rider<br />

and cyclists should <strong>on</strong>ly be <strong>on</strong> defined paths. (H/0807/X)<br />

Cultural heritage is not just about bricks and mortar - it is also about a traditi<strong>on</strong>al way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

life such as cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ting - <strong>the</strong> Code does not attempt to deal with any potential impacts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

increased access <strong>on</strong> this way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> life. (H/0988/X)<br />

Less than 1% <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> archaeological sites are protected as Scheduled Ancient M<strong>on</strong>uments. It<br />

should be emphasised here that archaeological sites are fragile. (L/0659/X)<br />

There is also a case for advice to be given out about curtailing <strong>the</strong> excessive use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

geological hammers… The advice given in <strong>the</strong> paragraphs <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Cultural Heritage<br />

about archaeological sites and <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> metal detectors needs to be included in<br />

Paragraph 3.33. (Q/0424/X)<br />

Cultural Heritage involving ruined buildings .... is a particularly attractive target for<br />

youngsters. There are huge dangers involved in buildings such as <strong>the</strong>se though .... The<br />

landowner is still apparently liable to be sued if a lump <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> mas<strong>on</strong>ry falls <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f and injures or<br />

kills some<strong>on</strong>e or if <strong>the</strong>y fall. This situati<strong>on</strong> flies in <strong>the</strong> face <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> encouraging plublic access<br />

because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> risk that irresp<strong>on</strong>sible members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public (particularly children) will<br />

abuse it and be hurt or worse. (W/0957/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> vast majority ….. <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> historic houses are privately owned, this fact should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

clear. (X/0656/X)<br />

The "natural or cultural heritage" is too vague a term and could be very widely<br />

interpreted. (B/0558/X)<br />

No menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> metal detecting or collecting st<strong>on</strong>es such as agates which are not, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

course, a renewable resource. (B/0755/X)<br />

In my opini<strong>on</strong> all reference to human waste should be removed from para 3.36 as it<br />

implies that carrying out such c<strong>on</strong>duct is acceptable. (B/0634/X)<br />

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R/1221/X, T/0911/X, W/0011/X,<br />

W/0078/X, W/0191/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0708/X/d, W/1337/,<br />

X/0727/X, X/0939/X.<br />

There is very little in this secti<strong>on</strong>, or indeed <strong>the</strong> whole Code, which says to people "enjoy<br />

<strong>the</strong> countryside". (M/0463/X)<br />

...emphasise <strong>the</strong> hygiene situati<strong>on</strong> around bothies. Also in fragile mountain "h<strong>on</strong>eypots"<br />

(yet digging up turf would damage <strong>the</strong> fragile habitat, and is anyway impossible in winter)<br />

(P/0899/X)<br />

Although menti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> natural history sites, no menti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> veteran trees<br />

which are also ancient m<strong>on</strong>uments. (W/0191/X)<br />

What can be d<strong>on</strong>e under <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> perhaps needs some more examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

activities that would be c<strong>on</strong>sidered resp<strong>on</strong>sible - "food for free". (X/0727/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

About a quarter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> submitted raised c<strong>on</strong>cerns about <strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code in relati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> natural and cultural heritage. The<br />

general view was that <strong>the</strong> guidance was insufficiently clear, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> little practical use, and did not do justice to <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> natural and cultural<br />

heritage. However, a reas<strong>on</strong>able number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> did feel that <strong>the</strong> guidance was sensible and balanced and <strong>the</strong>re were also a few c<strong>on</strong>cerns that<br />

<strong>the</strong> guidance in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was too restrictive and that, for <strong>the</strong> most part, <strong>the</strong> natural envir<strong>on</strong>ment is resilient to access and <strong>the</strong>re is a danger that<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al impacts are overstressed.<br />

Overall, more c<strong>on</strong>cerns were raised about <strong>the</strong> natural heritage than <strong>the</strong> cultural heritage.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> key issues raised included <strong>the</strong> need for:<br />

• guidance <strong>on</strong> access al<strong>on</strong>g field margins and, related to this, acknowledgement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> potential adverse impacts <strong>on</strong> Rural Stewardship Schemes;<br />

• more emphasis <strong>on</strong> keeping to paths and c<strong>on</strong>trolling dogs during bird breeding seas<strong>on</strong>s;<br />

• str<strong>on</strong>ger statements <strong>on</strong> not causing polluti<strong>on</strong> or leaving litter or dog faeces;<br />

• more detail <strong>on</strong> potential impacts <strong>on</strong> flora, fauna and habitats, particularly <strong>on</strong> designated sites and <strong>on</strong> loch shores and river banks;<br />

• more reference to potential damage by horses and cyclists, and <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> water-based pursuits <strong>on</strong> fragile places, habitats and species;<br />

• improvements to <strong>the</strong> guidance <strong>on</strong> cultural heritage, for example, potential damage to archaeological sites;<br />

• requests for more references to <strong>the</strong> Nature C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> (Scotland) Bill and <strong>the</strong> 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act; and<br />

• more guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> collecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fossils.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

Although caring for <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment is <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> four key principles and <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> six key resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code, SNH accepts that more clarity<br />

and detail are needed to help people make informed judgements about exercising access rights where <strong>the</strong> natural heritage is sensitive, and to emphasise<br />

<strong>the</strong> value <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment to people's enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> outdoors. Accordingly, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has more emphasis <strong>on</strong>:<br />

• field margins as sometimes being important for wildlife;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need for people to not intenti<strong>on</strong>ally or recklessly disturb wildlife (this providing a link to <strong>the</strong> Nature C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> Bill);<br />

• taking special care not to cause erosi<strong>on</strong> or damage <strong>on</strong> sensitive sites, including areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> historic or archaeological importance;<br />

• taking special care not to disturb sensitive species during <strong>the</strong> breeding seas<strong>on</strong>;<br />

• following advice to keep to particular routes in sensitive areas in some nature reserves, and for members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong> bodies to respect voluntary<br />

agreements between <strong>the</strong>ir bodies and land managers; and<br />

• ensuring that people take <strong>the</strong>ir litter away with <strong>the</strong>m.<br />

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The Proposed Code also indicates that for particularly sensitive sites, <strong>the</strong>re may be a need for fur<strong>the</strong>r advice to avoid some areas, e.g. a climbing crag<br />

during <strong>the</strong> bird breeding seas<strong>on</strong>, and that <strong>Scottish</strong> Natural Heritage may erect signs under secti<strong>on</strong> 29 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act for <strong>the</strong> protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> natural heritage,<br />

and <strong>Scottish</strong> Ministers may resp<strong>on</strong>d similarly for <strong>the</strong> cultural heritage. The Proposed Code also c<strong>on</strong>tains more detail <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> species and habitats<br />

that are most likely to be vulnerable to access. In saying this, SNH recognises that <strong>the</strong>re is no str<strong>on</strong>g evidence to suggest that low levels <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> open-air<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong> are likely to cause significant disturbance or damage to <strong>the</strong> natural heritage. Indeed SNH should foster greater engagement between people’s<br />

Clearer policy guidance is however also required under rural stewardship schemes to avoid c<strong>on</strong>flicting advice about access rights and access restricti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> outdoors and <strong>the</strong>ir c<strong>on</strong>cern for its c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong>. and <strong>the</strong> potential for agricultural support payments to be cut in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land taken out<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> agriculture to accommodate paths. Our understanding is that informal access al<strong>on</strong>g field margins should not affect agricultural support payments, but<br />

taking <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land for path provisi<strong>on</strong> may do.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

15 - Dogs can be an emotive issue. The Code defines “under proper c<strong>on</strong>trol” in<br />

several ways, including not taking dogs into some types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> field. Do you think that <strong>the</strong><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities placed <strong>on</strong> dog owners are about right? It would help us if you could<br />

let us know in your resp<strong>on</strong>se if you own a dog.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

15a. Yes - guidance for<br />

dog owners is about right<br />

A/0009/X, A/0037/X, A/0838/X,<br />

A/0762/X, A/0319/X, B/0116/X/d,<br />

B/0772/X, B/0288/X/d, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0785/X, G/0973/X,<br />

G/1214/X, K/1241/X, L/0439/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1247/X, P/1272/X,<br />

P/1275/X, P/1275/X, Q/0024/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0828/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, V/0207/X, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0017/X, W/0194/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/0130/X/d, W/0095/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0800/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/1032/X, W/0977/X/d,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1007/X, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0391/X, X/0129/X, X/0405/X/d,<br />

X/1380/.<br />

15b. No A/0253/X/d, A/0253/X/d,<br />

A/0202/X/d, A/0430/X/d,<br />

A/0478/X/d, B/0472/X, B/0141/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0623/X, B/0755/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/1068/X, B/1131/X,<br />

B/0563/X, B/1309/X, B/0406/X,<br />

G/0657/X, G/1307/X, K/0444/X,<br />

L/0527/X, P/0643/X, W/0064/X,<br />

W/0140/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Keeping dogs under c<strong>on</strong>trol is a most important aspect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> enjoying <strong>the</strong> countryside<br />

(Page 36: 3.37 and 3.38). I agree with all <strong>the</strong> advice given. (A/0762/X)<br />

I have three dogs and agree that <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities placed <strong>on</strong> dog owners is about<br />

right. (B/0116/X/d)<br />

Dogs, oh dear! The resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities placed <strong>on</strong> dog owners are perfectly fair but many will<br />

ignore it since "my dog is alright". (W/1227/X/d)<br />

There is no definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 'proper c<strong>on</strong>trol'. Unless <strong>the</strong> dog is <strong>on</strong> a lead, or highly trained, it<br />

will not be under c<strong>on</strong>trol. (B/0472/X)<br />

Dogs should always be <strong>on</strong> a lead where livestock are around. The owners should walk<br />

al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> field boundary and be prepared to leg it over/under a fence or wire should<br />

cattle/horses/sheep show undue interest or c<strong>on</strong>cern. It is preferable <strong>the</strong>refore not to<br />

have dogs in fields where <strong>the</strong>re are livestock. It all depends up<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong> and area.<br />

In a particularly densely populated urban area, <strong>the</strong> above comments may be valid. In a<br />

rural area, people may possibly be more relied up<strong>on</strong> to be aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> situati<strong>on</strong>s... They<br />

can be a problem to ground nesting birds and animals and <strong>the</strong>refore should be <strong>on</strong> a lead<br />

during <strong>the</strong> breeding seas<strong>on</strong>. (W/0140/X)<br />

615<br />

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15c. No - <strong>the</strong>re are not<br />

enough resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities<br />

placed <strong>on</strong> dog owners<br />

A/0440/X/d, A/0425/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0163/X, A/0518/X, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0796/X/d, A/0786/X/d,<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/0724/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0291/X, A/0320/X/d, A/0320/X/d,<br />

A/0346/X, A/0958/X, B/0020/X,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0041/X, B/0054/X,<br />

B/0211/X, B/0257/X, B/0488/X/d,<br />

B/0884/X, B/0883/X, B/0120/X,<br />

B/0275/X, B/0413/X, B/0459/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0467/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0512/X/d,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0638/X/d, B/0633/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0858/X, B/0863/X,<br />

B/0798/X, B/0797/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/0787/X/d, B/0783/X/d, B/0754/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0654/X, B/0653/X,<br />

B/0648/X, B/1033/X, B/1047/X,<br />

B/1049/X, B/1075/X, B/1072/X,<br />

B/1161/X, B/1152/X, B/1145/X,<br />

B/1144/X, B/1131/X, B/1126/X,<br />

B/1125/X, B/1096/X, B/1083/X/d,<br />

B/1191/X, B/1176/X, B/0964/X,<br />

B/0969/X, B/0681/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/0668/X, B/0741/X, B/0695/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/1288/X, B/1281/X,<br />

B/1253/X, B/1244/X, B/0569/X,<br />

B/0535/X, B/1350/X, B/1306/X/d,<br />

B/1303/X/d, B/1240/X, B/1216/X,<br />

B/1208/X, B/1002/X, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0306/X, B/0345/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/0371/X, B/0409/X, B/1205/X,<br />

B/0931/X/d, B/0943/X, C/0234/X,<br />

E/0921/X, E/0523/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0351/X, G/0043/X, G/0114/X,<br />

G/0166/X, G/1098/X, G/0698/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0462/X, H/0158/X,<br />

H/0515/X, H/0807/X, H/0808/X,<br />

H/0915/X, H/0904/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/0310/X, H/1140/X, H/1118/X,<br />

Horse owners would like it included in <strong>the</strong> code that dogs should not be allowed in fields<br />

where <strong>the</strong>re are horses grazing unless <strong>the</strong>y are under proper c<strong>on</strong>trol. (A/0440/X/d)<br />

As a dog owner I think <strong>the</strong>re should be more emphasis <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible dog ownership.<br />

(A/0719/X/d)<br />

A dog should be kept <strong>on</strong> a lead in all circumstances in open country or in fields with<br />

livestock, while not overlooking <strong>the</strong> danger to pers<strong>on</strong>s with dogs <strong>on</strong> leads <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> entering<br />

land with stock. I believe that it should be deemed not to be resp<strong>on</strong>sible to have no<br />

insurance for <strong>the</strong> dog. (B/0794/X)<br />

Dogs should not be allowed in farm yards or <strong>on</strong> any field. Farmers who have <strong>the</strong>ir own<br />

working dogs require certificates c<strong>on</strong>firming that <strong>the</strong>ir dogs have been vaccinated<br />

against various diseases, yet this will not be <strong>the</strong> case with <strong>the</strong> general public. Dogs<br />

should <strong>on</strong>ly be allowed al<strong>on</strong>g farm roads or where <strong>the</strong>re is an established path and<br />

should be kept <strong>on</strong> leads at all times. (B/1126/X)<br />

Dogs should be kept under c<strong>on</strong>trol at all times and should always be kept <strong>on</strong> a lead<br />

when in areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unfenced livestock. This also includes keeping dogs <strong>on</strong> leads at<br />

sensitive times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year for ground nesting birds and young deer etc. (B/0969/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 3.37 should be added to, I think, to remind dog-owners that from June <strong>on</strong>wards<br />

young birds being reared for sport are vulnerable particularly in forests and in field crops<br />

specially grown to shelter <strong>the</strong>m. (B0668/X)<br />

dogs can be a major factor <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disturbance before and during shoot days. Dogs should<br />

not be exercised unless <strong>on</strong> a short lead, at any time <strong>on</strong> land managed for game shooting<br />

and rough shooting. (H0808/X)<br />

More emphasis should be put <strong>on</strong> keeping dogs under proper c<strong>on</strong>trol in busy places.<br />

Owners do not seem to be aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some people's fear <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs. More emphasis should<br />

be put <strong>on</strong> dog owners clearing up after <strong>the</strong>ir dogs... places like car parks and close to<br />

paths. (P/0928/X)<br />

There is also a need to make clear that <strong>the</strong>ir pets' behaviour can be alarming to fellow<br />

walkers and possibly dangerous to cyclists and horse riders if <strong>the</strong> dog is not under<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol. (P/1300/X)<br />

Allowing dogs to run free <strong>on</strong> a field margin or in an upland area will have a major<br />

detrimental impact <strong>on</strong> ground nesting birds. Ground nesting birds require peace and<br />

quiet and <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs to <strong>the</strong>se areas will cause birds to aband<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir nests.<br />

This suggested practice is also directly in c<strong>on</strong>flict wiht some agri-envir<strong>on</strong>ment schemes.<br />

Dog owners should be encouraged to keep a dog <strong>on</strong> a lead in any well used area or<br />

where <strong>the</strong>re is a potential threat to livestock and wildlife. (U/1172/X)<br />

To me, 'close c<strong>on</strong>trol' means in sight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>troller AND sufficiently well trained to<br />

come to <strong>the</strong> owner when called, every time (W/0182/X)<br />

Dog owners need to keep <strong>the</strong>ir dogs under c<strong>on</strong>trol and ensure <strong>the</strong>y do not cause<br />

damage or disturbance - full stop - it’s a simple c<strong>on</strong>cept d<strong>on</strong>'t complicate it! I am a dog<br />

owner and I can understand <strong>the</strong> principle. (W/0708/X/d)<br />

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15d. No - <strong>the</strong>re are too<br />

many resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities<br />

placed <strong>on</strong> dog owners<br />

J/1058/X, L/0520/X, L/0647/X,<br />

L/0992/X, N/0694/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0646/X, P/0889/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/1300/X, P/1296/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/0316/X, P/0317/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/1273/X, P/1275/X,<br />

Q/0224/X, Q/0445/X, Q/0501/X/d,<br />

Q/0499/X, Q/0790/X, Q/1061/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/1184/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, Q/0357/X, R/0868/X,<br />

T/0911/X, U/1172/X, V/0398/X/d,<br />

V/0398/X/d, W/0017/X, W/0190/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0221/X, W/0109/X,<br />

W/0262/X, W/0457/X, W/0457/X,<br />

W/0112/X, W/0242/X, W/0530/X,<br />

W/0511/X, W/0641/X, W/0635/X,<br />

W/0629/X, W/0857/X, W/0864/X,<br />

W/0903/X, W/0901/X/d, W/0780/X,<br />

W/0778/X, W/0770/X/d, W/0767/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0143/X, W/0649/X,<br />

W/1163/X, W/1162/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/1139/X, W/1123/X,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1109/X, W/0962/X/d,<br />

W/0972/X, W/0661/X, W/0746/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0703/X,<br />

W/1260/X/d, W/1325/X, W/1321/,<br />

W/1225/X, W/1001/X/d, W/1024/X,<br />

W/0321/X, W/0324/X/d,<br />

W/0348/X/d, W/0354/X/d,<br />

W/1235/X, W/1265/X, W/0940/X/d,<br />

W/0957/X, W/1373/, X/0193/X/d,<br />

X/0896/X, X/0888/X, X/0122/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0652/X, X/1171/X,<br />

X/0727/X, X/1298/X, X/1385/X,<br />

X/1345/X, X/0939/X, X/1380/ .<br />

A/1136/X/d, A/0369/X/d,<br />

A/0369/X/d, B/1148/X/d, R/1278/X,<br />

V/0398/X/d, W/1159/X/d,<br />

W/1336/d, W/1158/X, W/1080/X/d,<br />

W/1080/X/d, W/0751/Y.<br />

In my experience .... <strong>the</strong> perceived fear <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> infecti<strong>on</strong> from dogs and possible worrying <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

livestock has always been very much overemphasised by land managers and <strong>the</strong><br />

problem is not as bad as <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> out by <strong>the</strong>m. Any problems caused by dogs is for 99% <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> time caused by unaccompanied dogs and land managers already have legal<br />

remedies for dealing with such animals. (A/0369/X/d)<br />

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15e. more guidance is<br />

needed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> areas where dogs can<br />

be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f-lead<br />

15f. guidance regarding<br />

dogs <strong>on</strong> lead in livestock<br />

fields is wr<strong>on</strong>g<br />

15g. dogs should never<br />

be taken into livestock<br />

fields<br />

A/0440/X/d, A/1082/X, A/0572/Y/d,<br />

B/0107/X, G/0973/X, L/1026/X,<br />

W/0056/X/d, W/0990/X/d,<br />

X/0129/X, X/0099/X.<br />

A/0259/Y/d, A/0105/X, A/0471/X/d,<br />

A/1136/X/d, A/0346/X, B/0171/X,<br />

B/0428/X/d, B/0282/X, B/0443/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/1190/X, B/0980/X,<br />

B/1303/X/d, B/1231/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0368/X, G/0917/X, G/0166/X,<br />

G/0854/X, G/1099/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/1330/X/d, H/1179/X, K/1241/X,<br />

L/0659/X, P/0889/X, P/0492/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/1060/X, P/0575/X,<br />

P/0548/X, R/0549/X, U/0922/X,<br />

W/0108/X/d, W/0267/X, W/0283/X,<br />

W/0822/X, W/0872/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1110/X, W/0720/X,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0556/X,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/0940/X/d,<br />

X/0122/X, X/0748/X, X/1212/X.<br />

B/0171/X, B/0211/X, B/0240/X,<br />

B/0242/X, B/0085/X, B/0428/X/d,<br />

B/0638/X/d, B/0830/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0835/X, B/0845/X, B/0859/X,<br />

B/0862/X, B/0794/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/1039/X/d, B/0956/X,<br />

B/1160/X, B/1126/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/1104/X, B/1093/X, B/1083/X/d,<br />

B/1181/X, B/0965/X/d, B/0980/X,<br />

B/0677/X, B/0704/X, B/1295/X,<br />

I do feel that resp<strong>on</strong>sible dog owners are being penalised and will curtail <strong>the</strong>ir walking<br />

which is presumably against <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>. (W/1159/X/d)<br />

Dogs: Evidence indicates that dog ownership tends to promote a more healthy lifestyle,<br />

though clearly it can bring problems. The guidance relating to dogs is mostly reas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

and fair although <strong>the</strong>re is more here by way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> prohibiti<strong>on</strong> (which relies <strong>on</strong> enforcement)<br />

than encouragement, which lends an "anti-dog" feeling to this secti<strong>on</strong>. (W/1080/X/d)<br />

Dogs need free running exercise <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> lead some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> time, where restricti<strong>on</strong>s apply<br />

could areas be set aside where this can happen. (A/0440/X/d)<br />

The guidance <strong>on</strong> dogs is overly restrictive. … many areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> open ground are suitable to<br />

exercise a dog. In some urban areas <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly open ground available may be <strong>the</strong> local<br />

park, including playing fields and sports pitches not in use. It is far more sensible to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol <strong>the</strong> health and safety aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog fouling by use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> tougher penalties ... than it<br />

is to ban dogs from popular open spaces. (L/1026/X)<br />

Keeping a dog <strong>on</strong> a lead in a field where livestock could be aggressive will prevent <strong>the</strong><br />

dog taking evasive acti<strong>on</strong> and is dangerous to <strong>the</strong> dog handler. (A/0471/X/d)<br />

Keeping a dog <strong>on</strong> a short lead (less than 2 metres) is positively dangerous advice to give<br />

in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cattle, at any time <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> year. (B/0428/X/d)<br />

For any<strong>on</strong>e to enter a field c<strong>on</strong>taining suckler cows with a dog would be an act <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gross<br />

stupidity… The dog owner's <strong>on</strong>ly hope… would be to release <strong>the</strong> dog… and… to retreat<br />

to <strong>the</strong> nearest fence or gate. (B/0282/X)<br />

... what is not menti<strong>on</strong>ed is cattle and horses chasing dogs which in turn can cause<br />

injury to walkers. (B/0288/X/d)<br />

However, many sheep are lambed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> open hill, and I can see farmers using this to<br />

prevent resp<strong>on</strong>sible people from giving <strong>the</strong>ir dog a run <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> lead <strong>on</strong> moorland or<br />

uncultivated land. So I think you will have to define what you mean by a "field", or make<br />

it clear that dogs do not have to be <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> lead, except in <strong>the</strong> circumstances menti<strong>on</strong>ed<br />

in <strong>the</strong> code. (provided <strong>the</strong>y are under "proper c<strong>on</strong>trol") (A/0701/X/d)<br />

Dogs even kept <strong>on</strong> a short lead can cause serious problems in hill flocks. (B/0631/X)<br />

Grouse moors can be sensitive places in August and September and drives can be<br />

ruined <strong>on</strong> a shoot day if disturbed by a dog out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>trol. (B/1240/X)<br />

We would like to see <strong>the</strong> Code state firmly that dogs should not be taken into fields with<br />

livestock at any time. (B/1125/X)<br />

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15h. more guidance is<br />

needed about dogs <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

open hill / uncultivated<br />

land<br />

B/1293/X, B/0538/X, B/1328/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0338/X/d, B/0340/X,<br />

B/0366/X, B/1205/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

E/0924/X, E/0616/X, E/1246/X,<br />

G/0166/X, G/1330/X/d, H/0220/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/0988/X, H/0552/X,<br />

H/1349/X, H/0941/X, H/0959/X,<br />

L/0527/X, L/1026/X, M/0692/X,<br />

M/0691/X, M/0690/X, M/0689/X,<br />

M/0688/X, M/0687/X, M/0852/X,<br />

N/1138/X, N/1268/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0640/X, P/0643/X, P/0374/X,<br />

P/1237/X, Q/0091/X, Q/0930/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0866/X/d, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/1299/X, W/0434/X, W/0483/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, W/0108/X/d,<br />

W/0100/d, W/0277/X, W/0812/,<br />

W/0903/X, W/0901/X/d, W/0766/X,<br />

W/1170/X, W/1151/X, W/1123/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/1289/X, W/0567/X,<br />

W/0542/X, W/1324/, W/1321/,<br />

W/1318/, W/1010/X, W/1012/X,<br />

W/1014/X, W/1023/X, W/0947/X/d,<br />

X/0639/X, X/1036/X, X/1092/X,<br />

X/0939/X.<br />

A/0134/X/d, A/0098/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0821/X/d, A/0701/X/d, B/0032/X,<br />

B/0049/X, B/0058/X, B/0433/X/d,<br />

B/0118/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0451/0452/X/d, B/0638/X/d,<br />

B/0631/X, B/1096/X, B/1186/X,<br />

B/0670/X, B/0565/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/0342/X/d, E/0086/X, G/0082/X/d,<br />

G/1044/X, H/1042/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0959/X, K/0722/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0548/X, P/0374/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, U/0922/X, W/0021/X,<br />

W/0025/X, W/0062/X, W/0110/X,<br />

W/0096/X, W/0823/X, W/0853/X,<br />

It should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> explicit that taking dogs into fields with livestock is dangerous and<br />

should NOT be d<strong>on</strong>e (<strong>the</strong>re is a good argument that short leads increase <strong>the</strong> danger for<br />

<strong>the</strong> owner). This is especially important in Orkney where <strong>the</strong>re is a high density <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

livestock and with beefstock, <strong>the</strong> bull runs with <strong>the</strong> herd. (L/0527/X)<br />

I AM A DOG OWNER. I believe that dogs should NOT be allowed in any fields with<br />

livestock. Even <strong>the</strong> sight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a strange dog can, and will, upset pregnant ewes and cattle<br />

and horses and those with young at foot even more so. Even <strong>the</strong> sight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a strange<br />

pers<strong>on</strong> can cause upset or attack. NO DOGS SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN ANY FIELD<br />

WITH LIVESTOCK UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. (W/0100/d)<br />

it may not be possible to avoid lambs if <strong>the</strong>y are <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> open hillside as opposed to being<br />

in enclosed fields. What is <strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong> regarding areas where <strong>the</strong>y have a blanket ban<br />

<strong>on</strong> dogs all year round? (A/0821/X/d)<br />

Dogs even kept <strong>on</strong> a short lead can cause serious problems in hill flocks. (B/0631/X)<br />

Grouse moors can be sensitive places in August and September and drives can be<br />

ruined <strong>on</strong> a shoot day if disturbed by a dog out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>trol. (B/1240/X)<br />

We believe that a dog should be kept <strong>on</strong> a lead in all circumstances in open country or in<br />

fields with livestock. (H/1179/X)<br />

Also <strong>the</strong>re is <strong>the</strong> problem <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> young deer calves/kids lying hidden in hea<strong>the</strong>r and<br />

woodland vegetati<strong>on</strong>. These can be very enticing to dogs. You d<strong>on</strong>'t menti<strong>on</strong> that dogs<br />

caught worrying sheep can be shot. (W/1102/X/d)<br />

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W/1102/X/d, W/1080/X/d,<br />

W/1189/X, W/0311/X, X/1036/X,<br />

X/1174/X.<br />

15i. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0202/X/d, A/0259/Y/d,<br />

A/1136/X/d, A/0753/X, A/0743/X,<br />

A/0740/X, A/0712/X/d, A/0701/X/d,<br />

A/0560/X, A/0362/X, B/0027/X,<br />

B/0178/X, B/0218/X, B/0242/X,<br />

B/0254/X, B/0918/X, B/0142/X,<br />

B/0512/X/d, B/0633/X, B/0874/X,<br />

B/0764/X, B/0613/X, B/1173/X,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/1129/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

B/1107/X, B/1078/X, B/0752/X,<br />

B/0738/X, B/0731/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/1293/X, B/0565/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0366/X, B/0937/X, D/0022/X,<br />

E/0924/X, F/0360/X, G/0166/X,<br />

G/0759/X, G/1099/X, G/1106/X,<br />

G/0960/X, G/0736/X/d, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1307/X, G/0379/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/1140/X, H/0552/X, J/1203/X,<br />

K/1241/X, K/0722/X, K/0714/X,<br />

P/0274/X, P/0642/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/1060/X, P/1066/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/1218/X, P/1239/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0526/X, Q/1105/X,<br />

Q/1299/X, R/1278/X, V/0914/X,<br />

V/1285/X, W/0021/X, W/0221/X,<br />

W/0255/X, W/0214/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0766/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1110/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1102/X/d, W/1080/X/d,<br />

W/1080/X/d, W/0661/X, W/0750/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0702/Y, W/1289/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1280/X, W/0561/X,<br />

W/1319/, W/1023/X, W/1377//d,<br />

W/1359/X, X/0192/X/d, X/0637/X,<br />

X/1036/X, X/1067/X, X/1290/X,<br />

X/0939/X.<br />

I find <strong>the</strong> general advice that dogs should be "under proper c<strong>on</strong>trol" <strong>on</strong> all occasi<strong>on</strong>s,<br />

ambiguous. If this means <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> lead at all times, <strong>the</strong>n that should be stated.<br />

Ambiguous advice leads to misunderstanding and c<strong>on</strong>troversy. I would find a total ban<br />

<strong>on</strong> my dog's freedom unacceptable. (A/0202/X/d)<br />

"C<strong>on</strong>trol" is <strong>the</strong> issue - not how it is achieved - a leash can be an aide or a danger<br />

depending <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> circumstances. Overly prescriptive guidance must be avoided.<br />

(A/0740/X)<br />

The various quality assured schemes I have to subscribe to, allow me to market my<br />

grain and livestock as quality assured. All my dogs are wormed <strong>on</strong> a regular basis or I<br />

will lose accessibility to <strong>the</strong> market place. This does not square up with allowing dogs<br />

free access to enclosed fields. (B/0633/X)<br />

I do own a dog and I believe that what you have is about right but it ignores <strong>the</strong> fact that<br />

hedgerows and field margins are important places for birds nesting and feeding. They<br />

should be menti<strong>on</strong>ed in bullet point three. ………it should be menti<strong>on</strong>ed that it is a<br />

criminal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence not to have a dog under c<strong>on</strong>trol in a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sheep. (B/1150/X/d)<br />

Dog Fouling. The dog owner should be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for removing <strong>the</strong> dog dirt and taking<br />

it to a safe place. This does not include adjacent farmland and it is entirely unacceptable<br />

to bag <strong>the</strong> dog dirt and discard <strong>the</strong> bag in <strong>the</strong> bushes. (E/0924/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> could include more educati<strong>on</strong>al informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> potential adverse<br />

impacts to wildlife <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unc<strong>on</strong>trolled dogs. (G/0960/X)<br />

~ No - this is not realistic. Most dog owners do not keep <strong>the</strong>ir dogs <strong>on</strong> leashes over<br />

open moorland, <strong>on</strong> beaches or in woodland, as <strong>the</strong>se are some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly remaining<br />

areas where dogs can run free. The Code should not make recommendati<strong>on</strong>s where<br />

n<strong>on</strong>-compliance is almost guaranteed.<br />

~ Specifying a particular lead length is probably counterproductive. (G/0379/X)<br />

There is c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> over <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs and sports pitches. Clearly dogs must not be<br />

allowed <strong>on</strong>to sports pitches when <strong>the</strong>se are in use. However <strong>the</strong> code suggests in 3.37<br />

that <strong>the</strong>y should not be allowed <strong>on</strong> to sports pitches at any time <strong>on</strong> disease preventi<strong>on</strong><br />

grounds and <strong>the</strong>n in 3.38 suggests (reas<strong>on</strong>ably) that dog faeces should be removed by<br />

owners from sports pitches. (W/1080/X/d)<br />

The advice given about dogs <strong>on</strong> short leads with sheep is correct. However <strong>the</strong> advice<br />

for dogs and cattle is that <strong>the</strong> two should never meet. What about grassland as a habitat<br />

for breeding birds as well. It must be remembered that having a dog is <strong>the</strong> biggest<br />

reas<strong>on</strong> for taking access; safety issues and health benefits <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> getting out and about.<br />

(X/1067/X)<br />

The Dog Fouling Act comes into play in October 2003 and it will be an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence for<br />

owners not to clear-up after <strong>the</strong>ir dogs in all public places. For some reas<strong>on</strong> agricultural<br />

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fields are exempt from this requirement but with health and safety c<strong>on</strong>cerns, <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

should encourage owners to "clean-up" in all public places. This Act should be<br />

highlighted. (X/0939/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Close <strong>on</strong> half <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>ses to <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> – across <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dent types - commented <strong>on</strong> this issue. Although <strong>the</strong>re were some c<strong>on</strong>cerns<br />

that <strong>the</strong>re were too many restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> dogs (and that <strong>the</strong>re was a need for <strong>the</strong> Code to explain <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs to people’s mental and physical<br />

health, and <strong>the</strong> need for space to exercise <strong>the</strong>m), in general, <strong>the</strong> overwhelming message in resp<strong>on</strong>ses was that not enough resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities were placed <strong>on</strong><br />

dog owners.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

C<strong>on</strong>cerns <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities placed <strong>on</strong> dog owners included <strong>the</strong> need for:<br />

• clear references to o<strong>the</strong>r statutes, for example, <strong>the</strong> Dog Fouling (Scotland) Act, 2003 and <strong>the</strong> Dogs (Protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Livestock) Act, 1953;<br />

• more guidance to protect wildlife, particularly al<strong>on</strong>g some field margins, and more emphasis <strong>on</strong> possible disturbance to ground nesting birds in <strong>the</strong><br />

breeding seas<strong>on</strong>;<br />

• more guidance <strong>on</strong> dog c<strong>on</strong>trol in <strong>the</strong> vicinity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crops, particularly grass for hay and silage, and for fruit and vegetables;<br />

• more guidance <strong>on</strong> dogs and livestock, with specific requests that dogs and livestock should be kept separate, but also <strong>the</strong> need for better guidance<br />

<strong>on</strong> what to do to avoid attenti<strong>on</strong> or injury by cattle; and<br />

• detail <strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>trolling dogs, including in relati<strong>on</strong> to enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r activities, e.g. walking, cycling, horse riding, fishing, golf, shooting, and in<br />

relati<strong>on</strong> to pheasant rearing.<br />

In c<strong>on</strong>trast to <strong>the</strong>se needs, <strong>the</strong>re were also c<strong>on</strong>cerns that access to urban green spaces, open pasture land and upland and moorland would be denied to<br />

dog walkers, with no useful alternatives provided.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

In assessing <strong>the</strong>se comments, our starting point is that access rights extend to people with dogs provided that <strong>the</strong> dogs are under proper c<strong>on</strong>trol and it must<br />

be remembered that up to 20% <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all walks in <strong>the</strong> countryside are by people with dogs. Being accompanied by <strong>the</strong>ir dog is part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people’s enjoyment, it<br />

may be <strong>the</strong> reas<strong>on</strong> for <strong>the</strong>m being in <strong>the</strong> outdoors and is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten a means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> helping people feel secure in taking recreati<strong>on</strong>al exercise. Also, <strong>the</strong>se visits<br />

generally do not cause problems and <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code is already str<strong>on</strong>g <strong>on</strong> this matter. However, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has addressed some c<strong>on</strong>cerns by<br />

providing:<br />

• clarificati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> “under close c<strong>on</strong>trol” e.g. resp<strong>on</strong>ding to its owners commands to ensure it will return <strong>on</strong> call and will walk to heel;<br />

• a reference to <strong>the</strong> need to worm dogs regularly;<br />

• more detailed guidance for being with a dog in certain situati<strong>on</strong>s e.g. in areas where <strong>the</strong>re is livestock; and<br />

• more advice <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> faeces removal in <strong>the</strong> minimising <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disease, particularly in public open spaces.<br />

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In making this advice in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code, it is acknowledged that <strong>the</strong>re are few incidents even where existing paths run through fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock and<br />

that complete avoidance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such fields will not always be possible nor necessary. Whilst <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has, as far as possible, reflected <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised, SNH also recognises <strong>the</strong> need for specific acti<strong>on</strong> under <strong>the</strong> access educati<strong>on</strong> programme - particularly <strong>on</strong> dog training and <strong>on</strong> promoting<br />

better awareness <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs <strong>on</strong> livestock, wildlife, food crops, and o<strong>the</strong>r users.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

16 - Do you think that <strong>the</strong> guidance for <strong>the</strong> organisers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups and events,<br />

particularly <strong>the</strong> distincti<strong>on</strong> between when to talk to land managers and when to obtain<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir permissi<strong>on</strong>, is reas<strong>on</strong>able? If you d<strong>on</strong>’t, please explain why.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

16a. Yes – <strong>the</strong> guidance<br />

<strong>on</strong> groups and events is<br />

about right<br />

16b. No – <strong>the</strong> guidance<br />

<strong>on</strong> groups and events<br />

needs to be str<strong>on</strong>ger<br />

A/0009/X, A/0319/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/1363/X, A/0825/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0120/X, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0409/X, D/0022/X, D/0521/X,<br />

E/1246/X, E/0703/X, G/0043/X,<br />

G/0114/X, G/0189/X, G/0379/X,<br />

G/0698/X, G/0785/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0960/X, G/0973/X, H/0460/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0439/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/1273/X, P/1275/X,<br />

P/0576/X, P/0646/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0869/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0686/X, R/0868/X,<br />

U/0922/X, W/1130/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1235/X, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1289/X, W/0003/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0021/X, W/0056/X/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0108/X/d, W/0112/X, W/0119/X,<br />

W/0140/X, W/0194/X, W/0391/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0644/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/1007/X, W/1032/X, W/1367/.<br />

A/0098/X, A/0320/X/d, A/0500/Y/d,<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0740/X, A/0838/X,<br />

B/1039/X/d, B/1049/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1152/X, B/1187/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1288/X, B/1295/X,<br />

B/1309/X, B/0054/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0142/X, B/0167/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0338/X/d, B/0371/X, B/0404/X,<br />

B/0419/X, B/0462/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0481/X, B/0525/X/d,<br />

B/0525/X/d, B/0538/X, B/0558/X,<br />

B/0563/X, B/0571/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0613/X, B/0634/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/0704/X, B/0711/X,<br />

B/0772/X, B/0885/X, B/0937/X,<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Yes. Only fair a landowner should be c<strong>on</strong>sulted about organised parties <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> countryside<br />

users crossing <strong>the</strong>ir land. (A/0518/X)<br />

It is sensible for all organised groups to advise landowners/managers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir intenti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

(B/0409/X)<br />

From time to time <strong>the</strong> Associati<strong>on</strong> may organise group activities based at its hostels.<br />

Where this happens we would find no difficulty in following <strong>the</strong> guidance set out in<br />

paragaraph 3.46 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code. (D/0521/X)<br />

Our experience has been that group organisers have tended to be c<strong>on</strong>siderate land<br />

users. (E/0703/X)<br />

Groups should always liaise with land managers and <strong>the</strong> advice given in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code<br />

is sound. (H/0460/X)<br />

The guidance given in this secti<strong>on</strong> is good. It is perfectly reas<strong>on</strong>able to expect<br />

organisers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> events to at <strong>the</strong> very least advise land managers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir plans. (P/0804/X)<br />

Our view is that groups should, as is presently customary, always seek <strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> landowner. (Q/1178/X)<br />

Yes. Whenever you take groups <strong>on</strong>to land it is comm<strong>on</strong> courtesy, manners and<br />

politeness to liaise with and c<strong>on</strong>sult <strong>the</strong> landowners, farmers etc beforehand.<br />

(W/0140/X)<br />

Organisers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups and events should be urged to be mindful <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities to<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r (n<strong>on</strong>-participating) recreati<strong>on</strong>alists, as well as to land managers. (A/0500/Y/d)<br />

...<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public liaising or c<strong>on</strong>tacting land managers I think <strong>the</strong> code is too<br />

relaxed and that in many situati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>the</strong> access taker MUST be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for asking<br />

first. For example - surely any event <strong>on</strong> some<strong>on</strong>e else's land should have permissi<strong>on</strong> no<br />

matter <strong>the</strong> scale <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it? .. safety dictates that any such activity should be risk assessed<br />

and <strong>the</strong> business must c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>the</strong> land manager in advance to gain all necessary<br />

informati<strong>on</strong>. (B/1039/X/d)<br />

It is not simply <strong>the</strong> size <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> group that is important as <strong>the</strong> frequency <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> visits will<br />

determine impact. An individual group leader does not know if s/he is <strong>the</strong> first or <strong>the</strong><br />

51st group to visit a particular site: <strong>the</strong> land manager may know. So it is important that<br />

all groups should c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>the</strong> land manager prior to arranging a visit. (B/1288/X)<br />

The underlying intenti<strong>on</strong> is reas<strong>on</strong>able but it is sometimes expressed in such wishywashy<br />

language as to make it pointless. For instance, in 3.44 ".. you CAN do this by "<br />

leaves <strong>the</strong> event organiser with no obligati<strong>on</strong> to do anything. (B/0058/X)<br />

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B/0956/X, B/1002/X, B/1033/X,<br />

B/1047/X, B/1269/X, B/1292/X,<br />

E/1038/X, E/0616/X, E/0616/X,<br />

G/1098/X, G/1291/X, G/1330/X/d,<br />

G/0132/X, G/0759/X, G/0806/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0960/X, H/1348/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0515/X, H/0552/X,<br />

H/0615/X, H/0807/X, H/0915/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/0988/X, H/1348/X,<br />

J/1058/X, K/0444/X, K/0444/X,<br />

L/0065/X, L/0125/X, L/0513/X,<br />

L/0747/X, P/1066/X, P/1237/X,<br />

P/0316/X, P/0375/X, P/0375/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/0640/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0717/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0899/X, Q/1061/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/1286/X, Q/1308/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0256/X, Q/0499/X,<br />

Q/0501/X/d, Q/0526/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

Q/0739/X, Q/0739/X, Q/0856/X,<br />

U/1172/X, U/1172/X, V/0245/X,<br />

V/0245/X, W/1048/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1112/X, W/1139/X,<br />

W/1189/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/1316/, W/1321/,<br />

W/1329/X, W/0021/X, W/0080/X,<br />

W/0124/X, W/0143/X, W/0214/X,<br />

W/0217/X, W/0246/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/0354/X/d, W/0354/X/d,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0411/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0457/X, W/0555/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/0669/X/d, W/0709/X/d,<br />

W/0766/X, W/0766/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0817/X, W/0822/X, W/0848/X,<br />

W/0873/X, W/0880/X/d, W/1373/,<br />

W/0950/X/d, W/0991/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/1212/X, X/1290/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/0405/X/d, X/0637/X,<br />

X/0664/X, X/0727/X, X/0784/X,<br />

X/0939/X.<br />

We believe that <strong>the</strong> Code should require permissi<strong>on</strong> be sought for groups and events in<br />

all circumstances. (E/0616/X)<br />

...in 3.39 it refers to "canoeists <strong>on</strong> a club outing will normally create no problems". That<br />

is really <strong>on</strong>ly true if it is occasi<strong>on</strong>al and <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly canoes. Likewise <strong>the</strong> Code fails to<br />

menti<strong>on</strong> in 3.39 that small groups can also cause disturbance or damage if <strong>the</strong>y have a<br />

high frequency. In 3.40 again it should include frequency <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> events. The cumulative<br />

impact is also missing from 3.43. (H/1348/X)<br />

We believe that <strong>the</strong> Code needs to give examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> kind <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> commercial activities<br />

which are not acceptable under <strong>the</strong> Act and Code, such as retail ventures, and that <strong>the</strong>re<br />

might be a numbers limit imposed <strong>on</strong> those taking access for what might be deemed<br />

"acceptable" commercial purposes. (L/0747/X)<br />

Land managers should be c<strong>on</strong>sulted and if <strong>the</strong> land is showing visible signs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

deteriorati<strong>on</strong>, or if land management operati<strong>on</strong>s are being seriously impacted, due to<br />

high levels <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> usage, <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>re should be some recourse to limit access until <strong>the</strong> land<br />

has recovered and/or alternative soluti<strong>on</strong>s found. This should not give rights to land<br />

managers to manage access but equally groups needs to ensure that <strong>the</strong>y are not being<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible collectively. There should be an emphasis <strong>on</strong> mutual co-operati<strong>on</strong>. The<br />

term "sp<strong>on</strong>sored walks" should be included. (P/0899/X)<br />

Events - stresses liais<strong>on</strong> before events, but also include reference to liais<strong>on</strong> after events<br />

so that organisers can make any necessary improvements in <strong>the</strong> future. (W/1189/X)<br />

16. No. I feel that for groups over 8-10 in number permissi<strong>on</strong> should always be asked<br />

well in advance - large groups imply more noise, litter, disrupti<strong>on</strong> and general<br />

disturbance. (W/0770/X/d)<br />

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16c. No – <strong>the</strong> guidance<br />

<strong>on</strong> groups and events is<br />

too restrictive<br />

16d. <strong>the</strong>re is a need for<br />

more clarity regarding<br />

talking to land managers /<br />

seeking permissi<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0425/X, B/0118/X, B/0937/X,<br />

D/1340/X, D/1340/X, V/1071/X,<br />

V/1228/X, W/1370/, X/1339/X,<br />

X/1339/X.<br />

A/1037/X, A/1326/X, A/0162/X,<br />

A/0437/X, A/0442/X, B/1072/X,<br />

B/1146/X, B/1150/X/d, B/1164/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0142/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0510/X, B/0668/X,<br />

B/0733/X, B/0738/X, B/0741/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0755/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0980/X, E/0086/X, G/1098/X,<br />

I think c<strong>on</strong>tacting land managers in 3.42 is unnecessarily bureaucratic. (A/0425/X)<br />

3.4: The wording, "turn up unannounced" has negative c<strong>on</strong>notati<strong>on</strong>s and is <strong>the</strong>refore<br />

inappropriate). ..…. In paragraph 3.42 it does not seem necessary to distinguish Duke <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Edinburgh from o<strong>the</strong>r similar groups. Paragraph 3.43 When organising an event,<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> should be obtained from <strong>the</strong> relevant landowners <strong>on</strong>ly. 3.45 and 3.46 .... Are<br />

<strong>the</strong>se business / centres significantly distinct in <strong>the</strong>ir purpose and should <strong>the</strong> advice be<br />

merged? (B/0937/X)<br />

...this secti<strong>on</strong> would make more sense if <strong>the</strong> advice is to: - group organisers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> whatever<br />

type - event organisers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> whatever type, ra<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>the</strong> current layout which<br />

unnecessarily spotlights certain types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups. For example: There is no need for<br />

distinguishing between groups be <strong>the</strong>y school, Duke <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Edinburgh, adventure activities,<br />

etc. It is <strong>the</strong> impact <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> land that is important. (D/1340/X)<br />

Adventure Sports Groups, etc. There are a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> implicati<strong>on</strong>s which need to be<br />

dealt with here. The exhortati<strong>on</strong> to undertake a risk assessment is outwith <strong>the</strong> scope <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act and is indeed covered in existing Health & Safety<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> and in particular <strong>the</strong> Activity Centres (Young Pers<strong>on</strong>'s Safety) Act. Any such<br />

statements should be removed from <strong>the</strong> Code. Any<strong>on</strong>e leading school groups should be<br />

appropriately trained and qualified to do so and should not need to follow <strong>the</strong> 'advice' <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

a land manager.Indeed to do so diminishes <strong>the</strong> general right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access enjoyed by all<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r citizens. This is clearly inequitable and c<strong>on</strong>travenes <strong>the</strong> Act. Fur<strong>the</strong>rmore <strong>the</strong><br />

ir<strong>on</strong>y in stating that groups such as those <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Duke <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Edinburgh's Award Scheme<br />

(which generally travel without a qualified adult leader present) should be subject to less<br />

rigid requirements to c<strong>on</strong>sult with land managers, etc, is ast<strong>on</strong>ishing! All safety issues<br />

are <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> group organisers and outwith <strong>the</strong> scope <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform Act.<br />

All such references, and specific menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups such as <strong>the</strong> Duke <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Edinburgh's<br />

Award should be removed. C<strong>on</strong>cerns about <strong>the</strong> size <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups or impact <strong>on</strong> natural or<br />

cultural heritage are addressed elsewhere in <strong>the</strong> Code and do not need to be restated<br />

here specifically for school and o<strong>the</strong>r groups. Secti<strong>on</strong> 3.47 suggests that surveys for an<br />

educati<strong>on</strong>al purpose may 'alarm' those living nearby. This seems to be an<br />

overstatement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any likely reacti<strong>on</strong> to such activities and this statement should be<br />

removed or modified. Informing a land manager about such activities is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> course a<br />

matter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> courtesy and menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> elsewhere in <strong>the</strong> Code. (V/1228/X)<br />

There seem to be four possible acti<strong>on</strong>s required namely (I) listening to advice, (ii)<br />

following advice, (iii) listening to c<strong>on</strong>cerns and (iv) obtaining permissi<strong>on</strong>. This may lead<br />

to c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> and it strikes me <strong>the</strong> first three could be rati<strong>on</strong>alised. It is unclear with<br />

respect to school trips what is to happen if c<strong>on</strong>sensus cannot be reached. (A/0437/X)<br />

The guidance for commercial and group activities is too general and in many instances<br />

leaves it at <strong>the</strong> discreti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker as to whe<strong>the</strong>r to seek approval for access.<br />

…… it implies that a commercial operator could pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>it from causing damage through<br />

regular use <strong>on</strong> paths/roads and be under no obligati<strong>on</strong> to seek permissi<strong>on</strong> for access or<br />

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16e. commercial<br />

operators must seek<br />

G/1251/X, G/1254/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/0393/X, G/0759/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/1099/X, H/1103/X, H/0130/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0674/X, H/0808/X,<br />

J/1058/X, K/1241/X, L/0513/X,<br />

N/0694/X, P/1219/X, P/1275/X,<br />

P/0548/X, Q/0157/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

R/1278/X, T/0911/X, U/0922/X,<br />

V/0207/X, W/1112/X, W/1141/X,<br />

W/1280/X, W/1329/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0573/X, W/0947/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0149/X, X/0946/X/d.<br />

A/0838/X, B/1005/X, B/1144/X,<br />

B/1210/X, B/1309/X, B/0211/X,<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tribute to maintenance..... For instance <strong>the</strong>re is a major c<strong>on</strong>flict between salm<strong>on</strong><br />

fishing, which is a major source <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> income to most estates, and <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

canoeing particularly <strong>on</strong> rivers where <strong>the</strong>re was previously no right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> navigati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(B/0754/X)<br />

It should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> much clearer when permissi<strong>on</strong> has to be sought for an event. In <strong>the</strong><br />

event <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> permissi<strong>on</strong> being refused for no good reas<strong>on</strong>, <strong>the</strong>re should be an appeal facility.<br />

(G/1251/X)<br />

It seems that <strong>the</strong> advice in this paragraph is aimed at groups visiting estates or farms as<br />

an end, ra<strong>the</strong>r than simply passing through en route, and this should be clarified.<br />

(G/0920/Y)<br />

What should happen if an organiser <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a group or event discusses this with <strong>the</strong> land<br />

manager, and <strong>the</strong> land manager refuses to allow <strong>the</strong> group access or <strong>the</strong> event to take<br />

place? This outcome sould be explained in some detail. (H/0808/X)<br />

A definite structure/guideline needs to be incorporated for access by groups. For<br />

instance, for groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 10 pers<strong>on</strong>s or above <strong>the</strong> land manager must be informed. For<br />

groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 20 pers<strong>on</strong>s or above <strong>the</strong> land manager and ranger service must be informed.<br />

Clarity is essential for access takers and providers alike. ..... Page 36. Para 3.43 What<br />

does talk to <strong>the</strong> land manager mean? Does this mean inform <strong>the</strong> land manager, or does<br />

it mean c<strong>on</strong>sult <strong>the</strong> land manager? How so<strong>on</strong> in advance should this acti<strong>on</strong> be<br />

taken?...... Page 38. Para 3.45 Is it <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>sequence whe<strong>the</strong>r an enterprise which<br />

instructs or guides people in open-air recreati<strong>on</strong> is a commercial business or not? It<br />

should not be a case that you can show extra care by talking to land managers - ra<strong>the</strong>r<br />

land managers ought to be c<strong>on</strong>sulted for all group activities, and <strong>the</strong>ir permissi<strong>on</strong> sought.<br />

A system also needs to be in place for compensati<strong>on</strong>, making good damage including<br />

damage to wildlife and game interests, and undertaking a thorough risk assessment.<br />

(J/1058/X)<br />

The guidance for <strong>the</strong> organised group is not clear enough, nor are <strong>the</strong> differences<br />

between access for passage, educati<strong>on</strong>, training programmes or recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities<br />

properly appreciated… Access for passage for larger groups representing organisati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

such as military units, schools, colleges, universities, scout/guide movement, Duke <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Edinburgh's Award etc. <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten requires c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> and negotiati<strong>on</strong>. (Q/0157/X)<br />

The area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cern here is in relati<strong>on</strong> to small outdoor training groups… Asking<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> is not always practical and locating <strong>the</strong> pers<strong>on</strong> to ask permissi<strong>on</strong> can be<br />

difficult…It is felt that <strong>the</strong> code could do with fur<strong>the</strong>r development in this area to make<br />

<strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong> clearer. (V/0207/X)<br />

The code is far from clear as to whe<strong>the</strong>r simple "talk" or "liaise" is sufficient or whe<strong>the</strong>r<br />

firm permissi<strong>on</strong> is required. The Code should make quite clear that <strong>the</strong> organisers have<br />

<strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility …. (W/1141/X)<br />

Where activities are commercial, <strong>the</strong>n it is reas<strong>on</strong>able for permissi<strong>on</strong> to be required<br />

whatever <strong>the</strong> scale <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> activity. (A/0838/X)<br />

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permissi<strong>on</strong><br />

B/0258/X, B/0404/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0545/X, B/0574/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/0787/X/d, B/0801/X, B/0819/X,<br />

B/0839/X, B/0845/X, B/0879/X,<br />

B/0969/X, B/1145/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/1267/X/d, E/0923/X, E/0924/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/0310/X, H/0807/X,<br />

L/0513/X, P/0375/X, P/0491/X,<br />

P/0492/X, R/0868/X, W/1088/X,<br />

W/1139/X, W/1163/X, W/1315/,<br />

W/0567/X, W/0679/X, W/0735/X,<br />

W/0799/X, W/0951/X, W/0955/X,<br />

W/0957/X, W/0999/X, W/1324/,<br />

X/0099/X, X/0405/X/d, X/0495/X.<br />

16f. o<strong>the</strong>r A/1070/X/d, A/1194/X, A/1194/X,<br />

A/0362/X, A/0469/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0732/X, A/0927/X, A/0958/X,<br />

A/0967/X, B/1096/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/1240/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/1309/X, B/0085/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0443/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0461/X, B/0470/X, B/0633/X,<br />

B/0695/X, B/0704/X, B/0731/X,<br />

B/0741/X, B/0761/X, B/0794/X,<br />

It is quite inappropriate and inequitable that commercial operators should be entitled to<br />

use <strong>the</strong> land <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>rs for financial gain, without having to c<strong>on</strong>sult <strong>the</strong> land manager and<br />

without having to c<strong>on</strong>tribute anything to <strong>the</strong> creati<strong>on</strong> or upkeep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths, bridges, etc.<br />

(B/1210/X)<br />

It is fundamentally wr<strong>on</strong>g that people should have a right to use o<strong>the</strong>r people's property<br />

to run a business or o<strong>the</strong>rwise make a pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>it. If people wish to use land to run a<br />

business <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y can always do so with <strong>the</strong> express permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager.<br />

(B/0840/X)<br />

Businesses organising access as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a m<strong>on</strong>ey making venture must c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>the</strong> land<br />

manager prior to a visit. The Code is unclear <strong>on</strong> this area. (H/0807/X)<br />

The potential impacts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> commercial horse trekking are great enough to require better<br />

guidance, including inserting into 3.39 new guidance that deals with repeat visits not just<br />

large numbers, ie if a group is going to repeatedly exercise access rights across land<br />

<strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>re should be an expectati<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong>y will discuss this with <strong>the</strong> landowner. This<br />

should be backed up with a new secti<strong>on</strong> in table 5 specifically covering commercial<br />

activity. (P/0491/X)<br />

To add insult to injury any increased maintenance costs through wear and tear <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths,<br />

fences etc will also be met by us. This seems to me to be a criminal abuse <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what is<br />

meant as a spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> free access <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> individuals. Those wishing to carry out commercial<br />

activities <strong>on</strong> privately owned land should be required to obtain prior c<strong>on</strong>sent from <strong>the</strong><br />

landowner or manager. (W/0735/X)<br />

It frankly beggars belief that businesses can operate such activities <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r peoples'<br />

property, causing variable degrees <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> damage, yet <strong>the</strong> owner or manager <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> property<br />

is powerless to take <strong>the</strong> initiative. The advice given at this secti<strong>on</strong> is much too bland.<br />

Advise <strong>the</strong> two parties to reach an agreed positi<strong>on</strong> before any activity takes place.It is<br />

perhaps unhelpful to lump educati<strong>on</strong> centres toge<strong>the</strong>r with activity holiday centres<br />

(Secti<strong>on</strong> 3.16). Educati<strong>on</strong> centers are seldom an impositi<strong>on</strong>: Activity holiday centres can<br />

feature at <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r end <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> acceptability scale. Here, <strong>the</strong> clear advice should be reach<br />

an accommodati<strong>on</strong> with <strong>the</strong> land manager before you presume to make free with his<br />

land assets. (X/0099/X)<br />

Events. Organisers would find very useful a clear record <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> who owns/works in <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside and clear maps <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way, especially <strong>the</strong> potentially disputable <strong>on</strong>es<br />

near towns and villages. (A/1194/X)<br />

Commercial Activities - it seems unfair that certain people or groups carrying <strong>on</strong><br />

commercial activities can exercise <strong>the</strong>ir access rights as normal, with no requirement to<br />

bear any <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> expenditure which might arise as a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this access provisi<strong>on</strong>. We<br />

recognise that dealing with this issue in practical terms may be difficult but we feel that,<br />

as a minimum, some recogniti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> potential need to share costs should be included<br />

in <strong>the</strong> Code. (B/1125/X)<br />

Re groups & events - I feel commercial users should pay a percentage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir takings<br />

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B/0826/X/d, B/0842/X, B/0925/X,<br />

B/0925/X, B/0935/X, B/0937/X,<br />

B/0946/X, B/0956/X, B/0956/X,<br />

B/0966/X, B/0970/X, B/1271/X,<br />

B/0294/X, D/1340/X, E/0523/X,<br />

E/0765/X, E/0923/X, E/0984/X,<br />

F/1124/X, F/1134/X, G/1226/X,<br />

G/1251/X, G/1254/X, G/0082/X/d,<br />

G/0831/X, G/0854/X, G/0900/X,<br />

G/0900/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/1099/X, H/1042/X, H/0959/X,<br />

J/1058/X, J/1284/X, K/0722/X,<br />

K/1302/X, L/0504/X, L/0520/X,<br />

L/0976/X, M/1043/X, M/0852/X,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1272/X, P/0287/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/0576/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0928/X, Q/1122/X, Q/0445/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, Q/0707/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

U/0922/X, W/1110/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1151/X, W/1153/Z/d, W/1217/X,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/0140/X, W/0190/X,<br />

W/0246/X, W/0255/X, W/0632/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0708/X/d, W/1359/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0778/X, W/0780/X,<br />

W/0781/X, W/0812/Y, W/0963/X,<br />

W/0971/X, W/1018/X, X/1339/X,<br />

X/0122/X, X/0656/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/0896/X, X/0939/X, X/1290/X.<br />

towards <strong>the</strong> maintenance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land, or fences & stiles. (B/0741/X)<br />

From our experience it is very difficult to talk to Land Managers. We suggest that<br />

Groups c<strong>on</strong>tact Land Managers outlining <strong>the</strong>ir proposed activity, requesting any<br />

guidance that will minimise impact <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> commercial land use. Only when <strong>the</strong>re may<br />

be an issue will <strong>the</strong> Land Manager resp<strong>on</strong>d, allowing groups <strong>the</strong> opportunity to adjust <strong>the</strong><br />

plan. (G/0082/X/d)<br />

The Code does not acknowledge that commercial harvesting is allowable with <strong>the</strong><br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> landowner. The Code should emphasise <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cepts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> permissi<strong>on</strong><br />

and courtesy. The Code should also refer to <strong>the</strong> existing <strong>Scottish</strong> Wild Mushroom Code,<br />

which was put toge<strong>the</strong>r in co-operati<strong>on</strong> between landowners, harvesters and<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> bodies. (L/0504/X)<br />

Why should Educati<strong>on</strong> Centre and Activity Holiday Centres have to take "extra" care, is<br />

<strong>the</strong>re an implicati<strong>on</strong> that such groups cause adverse effect <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rs? If you have to say<br />

this we would urge that "normal" care is <strong>the</strong> wording used. (P/0287/X)<br />

It may be appropriate to advise people to c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>the</strong> local authority for fur<strong>the</strong>r advice <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong>se issues. (P/0576/X)<br />

For such groups and events it is important to stress to both organisers and participants<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities for <strong>the</strong> preventi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> polluti<strong>on</strong>, <strong>the</strong> removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> litter and <strong>the</strong> repair <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

any damage caused. (Q/1122/X)<br />

Group leaders should be certificated in rural knowledge. (W/1151/X)<br />

The landowner/farmer may not always have <strong>the</strong> time to take out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a busy schedule, to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sult with you. (W/0140/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

The majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> this point felt that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code could be str<strong>on</strong>ger and clearer <strong>on</strong> how groups and businesses utilise access rights, and<br />

<strong>on</strong> organising events resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. A number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents did c<strong>on</strong>sider that <strong>the</strong> guidance was about right.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Key c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised were related to:<br />

• insufficient practical guidance <strong>on</strong> what leaders <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups need to do, for example, when to c<strong>on</strong>tact land managers if leading a certain size <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> group;<br />

• clearer guidance <strong>on</strong> when to seek advice from land managers and when to request permissi<strong>on</strong> in relati<strong>on</strong> to different activities and locati<strong>on</strong>s;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need for greater clarity <strong>on</strong> which commercial activities are within access rights, e.g. for commercial horse-riding groups and photographers;<br />

• disturbance to land management through obstructi<strong>on</strong>s by parked cars, e.g. at farm gates;<br />

• frustrati<strong>on</strong>s, particularly expressed by land managers, that businesses could pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>it from <strong>the</strong> exercising <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights by groups <strong>on</strong> private land;<br />

and<br />

• a preference, particularly by recreati<strong>on</strong> groups, that no distincti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> between <strong>the</strong> types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups and events, and that <strong>the</strong> emphasis in <strong>the</strong><br />

guidance is <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> factors to be c<strong>on</strong>sidered during organisati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an event.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The starting point in c<strong>on</strong>sidering <strong>the</strong>se comments is that access rights do apply to people in groups and events for recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes and for some<br />

commercial and educati<strong>on</strong>al activities. However, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has an improved presentati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> general approach for group leaders, reflecting<br />

that:<br />

• larger groups will tend to have more effects <strong>on</strong> land management and <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment; and<br />

• permissi<strong>on</strong> has to be sought for <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> facilities and services for events, or where disrupti<strong>on</strong> is likely.<br />

The Proposed Code also recognises that guidance <strong>on</strong> commercial activities needs to take account <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> regular or intensive use, for example, by<br />

horse riding groups.<br />

In additi<strong>on</strong>, advice to group and event organisers is included in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code <strong>on</strong> what to do in particular situati<strong>on</strong>s, for example in:<br />

• thinking about group size, its activity and potential impact <strong>on</strong> land management, envir<strong>on</strong>ment, o<strong>the</strong>r users and local residents, including likely<br />

pressure points and times;<br />

• how to influence resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by participants and plan for heath and safety; and<br />

• liais<strong>on</strong> with land managers, local authorities, agencies and o<strong>the</strong>r interest groups, e.g. for c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

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SNH also recognises that <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has to be underpinned by acti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> access educati<strong>on</strong> programme to influence <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> organisers,<br />

membership groups, educati<strong>on</strong>al establishments and businesses affected by <strong>the</strong> Act and <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

17 – A key role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is to show <strong>the</strong> point at which behaviour is or is not<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible. Is <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour for land managers - people being<br />

prevented or discouraged from exercising access rights, or whe<strong>the</strong>r acti<strong>on</strong>s are<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able - set too low or too high, or is it about right?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

17a. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is<br />

set about right<br />

A/1084/X, A/0009/X, A/0135/X,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0437/X, A/0469/X,<br />

A/0719/X/d, A/0821/X/d, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0958/X, A/1070/X/D, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/0028/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0300/X/d, B/0347/X, B/0538/X,<br />

B/0599/X/d, B/0741/X, B/0772/X,<br />

B/0794/X, B/0874/X, B/0980/X,<br />

E/1246/Y, E/0590/X, E/0703/X,<br />

G/1214/X, G/1251/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/1330/X/d, G/0043/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0379/X, G/0580/X, G/0759/X,<br />

G/0785/X, G/0806/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0515/X, K/1241/X, K/0444/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/1026/X, L/0113/X,<br />

L/0439/X, L/0527/X, M/1043/X,<br />

P/1060/X, P/1218/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1272/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/0384/X, P/0493/X,<br />

P/0548/X, P/0576/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0643/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/0804/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0889/X, P/0899/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/1346/X, Q/0264/X,<br />

Q/0445/X, Q/0686/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

Q/0707/X, R/1278/X, R/0869/X,<br />

U/1172/X, V/0207/X/d, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1130/X, W/1151/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1217/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1310/X/d, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0017/X, W/0021/X/d,<br />

W/0056/X/d, W/0095/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/0179/X, W/0182/X, W/0194/X,<br />

W/0214/X, W/0246/X, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0334/X, W/0359/X, W/0388/X,<br />

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Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Whilst I would hope that land managers would go <strong>on</strong>e step fur<strong>the</strong>r from merely<br />

permitting access by positively facilitating and encouraging access I would agree that<br />

this should be left to best practice ra<strong>the</strong>r than a test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour.<br />

(A/0437/X)<br />

Probably <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is set about right (B/0538/X)<br />

I am comfortable with <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by land users. Access<br />

takers must be encouraged to use paths, and it must be accepted by <strong>the</strong>m that access<br />

to certain areas should be discouraged <strong>on</strong> safety grounds. (B/0794/X)<br />

Yes, this seems reas<strong>on</strong>able, but <strong>the</strong> land manager should have <strong>the</strong> right to direct<br />

members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public away if <strong>the</strong>ir access interferes with <strong>the</strong> land manager's<br />

commercial activities. (E/0590/X)<br />

The test seems to be set at about <strong>the</strong> right level but its interpretati<strong>on</strong> will hinge <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

word 'reas<strong>on</strong>able'. Whe<strong>the</strong>r it is perceived to be reas<strong>on</strong>able will depend <strong>on</strong> how people<br />

assess <strong>the</strong> need for <strong>the</strong> management pactice in questi<strong>on</strong>. (K/1241/X)<br />

About right. ........ A locked gate impeding access by cycles, horses, pushchairs, etc. -<br />

<strong>the</strong>re may be a stile or kissing gate nearby but this <strong>on</strong>ly allows a proporti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those<br />

wishing to take access to do so. Where <strong>the</strong>re is a field gate across a path it should be<br />

unlocked and easily unfastened unless <strong>the</strong>re is a good reas<strong>on</strong> for doing so - e.g. <strong>the</strong> first<br />

gate <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f a road should be locked with alternative self closing pedestrian<br />

(horse/cycle/pram friendly) gate provided. Fur<strong>the</strong>r away from <strong>the</strong> road <strong>the</strong> field gates<br />

should be unlocked. (P/1273/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> is set about right. The Code should, however, remind land and water<br />

managers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir duty to give signage guidelines <strong>on</strong> land/water which lies outwith <strong>the</strong><br />

right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access e.g. around farm steadings. (P/1218/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> is good but 4.7 is fundamental to <strong>the</strong> success <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> new access rights and<br />

in avoiding potential c<strong>on</strong>flicts. Therefore this point should be given much greater<br />

emphasis throughout <strong>the</strong> Code. (W/1287/X)<br />

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17b. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is<br />

set too high with too many<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities placed <strong>on</strong><br />

land managers<br />

17c. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is<br />

set too low with not<br />

enough obligati<strong>on</strong>s placed<br />

<strong>on</strong> land managers.<br />

W/0423/X, W/0589/X, W/0625/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/0675/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/0789/X, W/0972/X, W/1007/X,<br />

W/1367/, W/1377//d, X/1385/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d.<br />

A/0320/X/d, B/1049/X, B/1078/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, B/1133/X, B/1142/X,<br />

B/0127/X, B/0226/X/d, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0303/X, B/0339/X, B/0385/X/d,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0420/X/d, B/0446/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0473/X/d, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0525/X/d, B/0608/X,<br />

B/0628/X, B/0631/X, B/0677/X,<br />

B/0683/X, B/0685/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/0755/X, B/0760/X, B/0761/X,<br />

B/0801/X, B/0834/X, B/0835/X,<br />

B/0895/X, B/0925/X, , B/1375/,<br />

E/0923/X, E/0924/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0310/X, H/0460/X, H/0808/X,<br />

H/0916/X, Q/1061/X, Q/1185/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, W/1052/X/d, W/1110/X,<br />

W/1170/X, W/0262/X, W/0533/X,<br />

W/0556/X, W/0708/X/d, W/0812/,<br />

W/0848/X, W/0853/X, W/0857/X,<br />

W/0881/X, W/0901/X/d, X/1174/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0639/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/0888/X, X/0939/X.<br />

A/0290/X, A/0330/X, A/0477/X,<br />

A/0927/X, D/1065/X, D/0022/X,<br />

G/1098/X, G/1291/X, G/0736/X/d,<br />

M/0463/X, P/0274/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0415/X, V/0245/X,<br />

W/1329/X, W/0198/X, W/0457/X,<br />

W/0490/X, W/0494/X, W/0498/,<br />

W/0562/X, X/0937/X, W/1373/.<br />

To point out so frequently and clearly throughout <strong>the</strong> Code that interference by <strong>the</strong><br />

access taker with <strong>the</strong> legitimate activities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager is fine, so l<strong>on</strong>g as that<br />

interference is reas<strong>on</strong>able, yet <strong>the</strong> land manager cannot interfere even reas<strong>on</strong>ably within<br />

<strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker? So <strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>al access taker's "needs" take<br />

precedence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> livelihood needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager. (A/0927/X)<br />

It would seem under this new access code that we have no right to ask any<strong>on</strong>e to leave<br />

or to prevent any damage being d<strong>on</strong>e to <strong>the</strong> fragile natural envir<strong>on</strong>ment. … We also earn<br />

much needed revenue for <strong>the</strong> estate by shooting over that area through <strong>the</strong> winter. I<br />

w<strong>on</strong>der how this can be achieved safely with any passer-by wandering through <strong>the</strong><br />

undergrowth. If it turns out that we cannot c<strong>on</strong>tinue to shoot here due to safety reas<strong>on</strong>s,<br />

<strong>the</strong>n our livelihood disappears al<strong>on</strong>g with 4 full and 5 part time jobs. (B/0339/X)<br />

Too high. … No c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this questi<strong>on</strong> can dodge <strong>the</strong> difference between <strong>the</strong><br />

situati<strong>on</strong> facing some<strong>on</strong>e farming near a large c<strong>on</strong>urbati<strong>on</strong> and that <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some<strong>on</strong>e farming<br />

an open hill farm. ....<strong>the</strong>re is a world <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> difference for <strong>the</strong> farmer and for his<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities to access-takers. (B/0404/X)<br />

…<strong>the</strong> Code, perhaps unintenti<strong>on</strong>ally, favours <strong>the</strong> access taker, <strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>alist … For<br />

example, it lists irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> manager, but not <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access taker; it states that <strong>the</strong> manager must 'show courtesy and c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong><br />

a pers<strong>on</strong>al level' but does not place an equivalent demand <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> access taker ... The<br />

achieve a degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> balance, ei<strong>the</strong>r some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>straining references placed <strong>on</strong><br />

managers should be removed, or similar limitati<strong>on</strong>s placed <strong>on</strong> users. (B/0481/X)<br />

Too high. If access takers are not behaving resp<strong>on</strong>sibly in a c<strong>on</strong>text familiar to <strong>the</strong><br />

farmer c<strong>on</strong>cerned, he/she should have authority to say so. (H/0310/X)<br />

I have serious c<strong>on</strong>cerns about <strong>the</strong> act and <strong>the</strong> code being biased towards <strong>the</strong> access<br />

taker. The managing authority has several duties towards ensuring that <strong>the</strong> access<br />

taker can take <strong>the</strong>ir access. There should be a corresp<strong>on</strong>ding duty to ensure that land<br />

managers can c<strong>on</strong>tinue managing <strong>the</strong>ir land (W/0853/X)<br />

The Public Access Code always leaves a feeling that <strong>the</strong> land owners / managers<br />

always have <strong>the</strong> upper hand in disputes with <strong>the</strong> public over access. It is presumed that<br />

land owners / managers always act resp<strong>on</strong>sibly and that <strong>the</strong> pubic are always<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible in disputes which is not always <strong>the</strong> case. (A/0330/X)<br />

Finally, we felt that some reciprocal resp<strong>on</strong>sibility should lie with land owners to indicate<br />

a reas<strong>on</strong> for restricting access or requiring dogs to be <strong>on</strong> a lead. (G/0736/X/d)<br />

Clearly <strong>the</strong> intenti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act and Code is not to exclude disabled people from this<br />

provisi<strong>on</strong> but <strong>the</strong> Code certainly does not adopt an inclusive approach. ..… Unless <strong>the</strong>re<br />

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17d. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is<br />

unclear.<br />

17e. <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour<br />

should be different<br />

A/1084/X, A/0319/X, A/0537/X,<br />

B/1096/X, B/1114/X/D, B/1150/X/d,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0167/X, B/0226/X/d,<br />

B/0409/X, B/0505/X, B/0648/X,<br />

B/0654/X, E/0616/X, G/1099/X,<br />

G/0920/Y, J/1058/X, P/0642/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/0457/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0780/X, X/0727/X.<br />

A/1084/X, A/0442/X, B/0455/X,<br />

B/0506/X, B/1164/X, E/0616/X,<br />

H/1179/X, P/0640/X, Q/0501/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, W/0457/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/1370/ , X/1353/X,.<br />

17f. o<strong>the</strong>r A/1326/X, A/0740/X, A/0933/X,<br />

B/1009/X, B/1347/X, B/0142/X,<br />

B/0461/X, B/0879/X, G/832/X,<br />

G/0960/X, M/852/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/1304/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0790/X,<br />

V/0398/X, W/1032/X, W/1235/X,<br />

W/0018/X, W/0100//d, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0746/X, W/0789/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0727/X, X/0784/X.<br />

is specific menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled people <strong>the</strong> Code might be c<strong>on</strong>strued as<br />

sancti<strong>on</strong>ing <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>tinuati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> current access practices no matter how discriminatory<br />

<strong>the</strong>y might be. (M/0463/X)<br />

Under paragraph 4.3 it would be useful if land managers have a resp<strong>on</strong>sibility to<br />

facilitate access by whatever means <strong>the</strong>y have available e.g. by providing signage or<br />

alternative routes wherever possible. (W/1329/X)<br />

17(p40) The problem here is <strong>the</strong> land managers' interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what is reas<strong>on</strong>able ..<br />

who decides and how? (A/0319/X)<br />

I fear that hostile land managers may choose to interpret anything <strong>the</strong>y wish as<br />

'irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour' in an attempt to deny access to <strong>the</strong>ir land. (A/0537/X)<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>sible management <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land for ground nesting birds would be to discourage<br />

access near <strong>the</strong>m yet this acti<strong>on</strong> is cited in 4.4 as being irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by land<br />

managers for access. (B/0167/X)<br />

I feel especially c<strong>on</strong>fused and alarmed by <strong>the</strong> last paragraph: "modifying your work<br />

where this is reas<strong>on</strong>able and practicable". Surely my work as a farmer or land manager<br />

will come first. (B/0226/X/d)<br />

I must retain <strong>the</strong> right to manage <strong>the</strong> access and ask people to leave (B/0506/X)<br />

There should generally be more distincti<strong>on</strong> between free access to path networks and<br />

more qualified free access to working farmland. (B/1164/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong> lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a ready remedy to land managers faced with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is a<br />

real weakness in achieving an appropriate balance between <strong>the</strong> relative Rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access providers and users (H/1179/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> key test is not whe<strong>the</strong>r an obstructi<strong>on</strong> is "deliberate or unreas<strong>on</strong>able" as <strong>draft</strong>ed but<br />

whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> obstructi<strong>on</strong> has a "purpose or main purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> deterring <strong>the</strong> exercise <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access rights", which is a reflecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> wording used in secti<strong>on</strong> 14 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act.<br />

(X/1353/X)<br />

For <strong>the</strong> required changes to come about <strong>the</strong>re requires to be a fundamental cutural shift<br />

within land management circles - for most this will be subtle or negligible but for o<strong>the</strong>rs it<br />

may be massive and quite difficult. (A/0740/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong> Access Code comes over as trying to put access rights above all o<strong>the</strong>r existing<br />

rights and unless more balance is put into it, I fear that you will find that while Land<br />

Manager will for <strong>the</strong> most part abide by <strong>the</strong> law, <strong>the</strong>y may not be willing to enter into <strong>the</strong><br />

spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act and <strong>the</strong> Code and make access work without acrim<strong>on</strong>y. (B/11347/X)<br />

It is impractical and unworkable for farmers to be around to give advice at all times.<br />

However it should be stated that NOT taking a farmer's advice particularly regarding a<br />

potential hazard should be deemed as acting irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (B/0879/X)<br />

There is some c<strong>on</strong>cern that <strong>the</strong> code may encourage land managers to farm closer to<br />

<strong>the</strong> field edges <strong>the</strong>refore taking <strong>the</strong>m outside <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong>. (X/0727/X)<br />

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Supplementary Comments - Does Secti<strong>on</strong> 4 adequately describe resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities for land<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

71<br />

managers?<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Yes<br />

A/0163/X, A/0518/X, B/0839/X,<br />

E/1246/Y, G/0082/X/d, P/0491/X,<br />

P/0576/X, V/0975/X, W/1001/X/d,<br />

W/1158/X, W/1337/X, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0644/X.<br />

I found this secti<strong>on</strong> to be well written and balanced; <strong>the</strong> examples given strike me as<br />

appropriate. (A/0163/X)<br />

The general resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities and guidance set out in secti<strong>on</strong> 4 … believe to be both<br />

comprehensive and balanced. (E/1246/Y)<br />

In terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>tent, this is possibly <strong>the</strong> most c<strong>on</strong>tentious secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code. However,<br />

it is clearly set out, covers numerous areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access and gives a very comprehensive<br />

list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. (P/0491/X)<br />

No<br />

A/0077/X, A/0098/X, A/0400/X,<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0919/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0085/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

C/0070/X, D/1340/X, E/0616/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/1291/X, G/0386/X,<br />

G/0831/X, G/0900/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/0988/X, M/0263/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0928/X, Q/0526/X, Q/1232/X,<br />

R/1278/X, W/1342/X, W/0235/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0587/X, X/1353/X.<br />

Clauses 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4 are too vague to comment. This appears to be a very weak<br />

part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. (A/0098/X)<br />

I was unable to find a single reference to <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers. (B/0085/X)<br />

Again, secti<strong>on</strong> 4 dwells <strong>on</strong> land access despite its heading c<strong>on</strong>cerning managing land<br />

and water, and <strong>the</strong>re is really little here about water let al<strong>on</strong>e fishing. It should not be<br />

forgotten that some managers gain <strong>the</strong>ir livelihood from letting fishings, and <strong>the</strong> last thing<br />

<strong>the</strong>y want is <strong>the</strong> public causing problems through unannounced passage close to or <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> water. If people are advised to avoid walking through crops, it is surely equally right<br />

that <strong>the</strong>y should avoid damaging <strong>the</strong> crop expected from <strong>the</strong> river. Guidance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some<br />

sort is required here. (C/0070/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> and particularly Access during land management operati<strong>on</strong>s refers<br />

repeatedly to "limiting" access. The Act makes it clear that Land Managers may make<br />

requests or give advice in relati<strong>on</strong> to those taking access during land management<br />

operati<strong>on</strong>s but not limit. To limit access requires applicati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> Local Authority.<br />

When this is discussed within <strong>the</strong> Code it gives <strong>the</strong> appearance that land managers can<br />

remove access rights for a period as a c<strong>on</strong>sequence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land management operati<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

The guide for land manager acti<strong>on</strong> is unreas<strong>on</strong>able interference in access rights, "using<br />

or managing you land or water you should not interfere unreas<strong>on</strong>ably with people<br />

exercising or seeking to exercise <strong>the</strong>ir access rights" and "c<strong>on</strong>duct <strong>the</strong> ownership <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land<br />

in a way which is lawful and reas<strong>on</strong>able". This secti<strong>on</strong> should be re<strong>draft</strong>ed to better<br />

show this balance. (G/1254/X)<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Disabled Ramblers would like <strong>the</strong> code to encourage all land managers<br />

(including local authority Core Paths) to take into c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> particular needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

less mobile pers<strong>on</strong>s who are reliant <strong>on</strong> wheelchair or scooter vehicles in order to<br />

exercise <strong>the</strong>ir access rights in <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> outdoors. This may include <strong>the</strong> removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

man-<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> barriers <strong>on</strong> suitable paths and to avoid <strong>the</strong> erecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> styles or inaccessible<br />

gates without providing an accessible alternative. If paths are due for upgrading <strong>the</strong><br />

code should encourage land managers to make <strong>the</strong>m suitable to wheelchairs at a<br />

minimum to class 3 vehicle standards. (G/0386/X)<br />

Menti<strong>on</strong> should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> here that Parliament expected land managers to c<strong>on</strong>tinue to<br />

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o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

A/0290/X, A/0557/X, A/0796/X/d,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1271/X, B/1295/X,<br />

B/1306/X/d, B/1347/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0218/X, B/0929/X, D/0350/Y,<br />

E/0867/X, E/0921/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/0900/X, G/0917/X, G/0960/X,<br />

H/0915/X, L/0865/X, P/1304/X,<br />

P/1066/X, U/0922/X, W/0812/Y,<br />

X/1067/X, X/0937/X, X/0122/X.<br />

support access over land outwith statutory access rights such as farmyards and<br />

steadings where that access did not interfere with management operati<strong>on</strong>s, privacy or<br />

safety. Encouragement to provide alternative routes would also be appropriate here<br />

(G/0831/X)<br />

There needs to be a secti<strong>on</strong> added to ensure that land managers and users are aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> duties and powers given to local authorities and how this affects land managers and<br />

users. (P/0899/X)<br />

I think it is important that land owners / managers' right to stop any access (secti<strong>on</strong> 4)<br />

must be 'watertight' as o<strong>the</strong>rwise it will be open to abuse. (A/0557/X)<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is a tendency to refer to <strong>the</strong> occupier and land manager as <strong>the</strong> farmer. It should be<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that forestry and o<strong>the</strong>r n<strong>on</strong>-farming rural ventures are equally valid<br />

(B/1094/X).<br />

<strong>the</strong> code c<strong>on</strong>centrates too much <strong>on</strong> Land Managers as people who are operating <strong>the</strong><br />

land commercially. I do not think it properly addresses <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cerns <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people who own<br />

land and regard it as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir home. (B/1306/X/d)<br />

Field Sports - We do not feel that <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sporting activities to <strong>the</strong> rural<br />

ec<strong>on</strong>omy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland is recognised by limiting <strong>the</strong> comments to <strong>the</strong>se activities to<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> 5. A separate secti<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> code should deal specifically and in more detail with<br />

<strong>the</strong>se potentially dangerous activities. (E/0921/X)<br />

this Council al<strong>on</strong>g with most local authorities are a significant landowner and as such<br />

may have benefited from independent guidance in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> its ownership rep<strong>on</strong>sibilities.<br />

In particular more detailed guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> local authority as landowner may<br />

have been <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> assistance in seeking finance and securing budgets for Public Access<br />

Projects. (P/1304/X)<br />

A general point when referring to advice for land managers would be to include "nati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al bodies" as a group to c<strong>on</strong>sult with as <strong>the</strong>re may not be a local identifiable<br />

group, or <strong>the</strong> interest in a site may be much wider than a local <strong>on</strong>e. (X/0937/X)<br />

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Summary -<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Many resp<strong>on</strong>dents c<strong>on</strong>sidered that <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour for land managers was set at about <strong>the</strong> right level in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. However, a<br />

number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>rs, particularly land managers, indicated that <strong>the</strong> test was too high, whilst some thought it was too low, or unclear. The latter point was<br />

reaffirmed by <strong>the</strong> mixed views <strong>on</strong> whe<strong>the</strong>r Secti<strong>on</strong> 4 adequately described land manager resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Some land managers felt that <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility was set too high and <strong>the</strong>y were c<strong>on</strong>cerned that:<br />

• access would take precedence over <strong>the</strong> land manager’s commercial activities;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> test would compromise <strong>the</strong>ir ability to manage land and water and meet resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities under o<strong>the</strong>r legislati<strong>on</strong>; and<br />

• catering for all types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong>al users would be difficult.<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>dents also questi<strong>on</strong>ed <strong>the</strong> balance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <strong>on</strong> land managers and users and sought greater links between <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both<br />

groups. It was noted that those managing land accessible to larger populati<strong>on</strong> centres tended to shoulder greater resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities than land managers in<br />

more remote and less visited areas.<br />

Some recreati<strong>on</strong>al interests felt <strong>the</strong> test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour was too low and feared that <strong>the</strong> Code might be used to deny or discourage access.<br />

Recreati<strong>on</strong>al users also hoped that land managers would take positive steps to facilitate and manage access, and should be encouraged to do so through<br />

<strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> complementary good-practice guidance.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The Proposed Code has been changed to provide greater clarity <strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities for land managers. It clarifies <strong>the</strong> need for land managers to take<br />

access rights into account as <strong>the</strong>y plan and undertake <strong>the</strong>ir work. Collectively, <strong>the</strong> whole <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> secti<strong>on</strong> 4 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code defines resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour<br />

by land managers and should provide reassurance that land managers will be acting resp<strong>on</strong>sibly if <strong>the</strong>y follow <strong>the</strong> guidance.<br />

The need for clarity also emphasises <strong>the</strong> role that local authorities will play in helping land mangers resp<strong>on</strong>d to issues and to facilitate access through <strong>the</strong><br />

provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> more paths<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 18 - Do you think <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what might be deemed an unreas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

obstructi<strong>on</strong> is reas<strong>on</strong>able, or too l<strong>on</strong>g, or would you like to suggest o<strong>the</strong>r examples?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

18a. <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples<br />

is too short<br />

A/0009/X, A/0162/X, A/0228/X,<br />

A/0253/X/d, A/0290/X, A/0319/X,<br />

A/0330/X, A/0425/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0471/X/d, A/0598/X/d,<br />

A/0769/X/d, A/0927/X, B/0733/X,<br />

B/0966/X, D/0022/X, D/0093/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1214/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/0043/X, G/0114/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/0759/X, L/0185/X, M/0463/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/1247/X, P/1272/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/0548/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/0869/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0928/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0686/X, Q/0790/X,<br />

V/0245/X, W/1149/X, W/1151/X,<br />

W/1202/X, W/1329/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0034/X, W/0053/X, W/0056/X/d,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0112/X, W/0198/X,<br />

W/0235/X, W/0388/X, W/0508/X,<br />

W/0530/X, W/0581/X, W/0610/X,<br />

W/0746/X, W/0758/X, W/0800/X,<br />

W/0947/X/d, W/1370/, W/1373/,<br />

X/1092/X, X/0099/X.<br />

148<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

I would like to see more clearly in your code <strong>the</strong> intenti<strong>on</strong> to remove such established<br />

obstructi<strong>on</strong>s, so as to allow allowing unrestricted access in accordance with your code.<br />

… a) Extensi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> garden areas so as to exclude access, and perhaps prohibit linear<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tinuance b) Nominally charging for access into estates for <strong>the</strong> sake <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> prohibiting<br />

access c) Hastily putting fences and o<strong>the</strong>r obstructi<strong>on</strong>s across open areas in such a<br />

way as to prevent reas<strong>on</strong>able access, perhaps in an advantageous directi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong><br />

walker, or cyclist d) Landowners hastily setting aside areas (such as bypassed secti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> old roads) to use as storage areas thus negating access rights (A/0253/X/d)<br />

SNH does not, in this Code, even menti<strong>on</strong> shooting and hea<strong>the</strong>r burning as examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able obstructi<strong>on</strong>s. But many walkers certainly would! (A/0290/X)<br />

...seeking to reduce or eliminate points <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to open country (A/0319/X)<br />

(Additi<strong>on</strong>al bullet) Use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> barbed wire, electric fencing, or any material in a manner<br />

dangerous for <strong>the</strong> public, al<strong>on</strong>gside or too near a path for instance. (A/0769/X/d)<br />

Warning notices regarding <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> high velocity rifles should be removed during <strong>the</strong><br />

n<strong>on</strong>-shooting seas<strong>on</strong>. (A/0598/X/d)<br />

The list is reas<strong>on</strong>able and cannot be shortened and still be useful. It needs <strong>the</strong> attenti<strong>on</strong><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unte<strong>the</strong>red dogs being an example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> deliberate or unreas<strong>on</strong>able obstructi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access. Keeping dogs <strong>on</strong> a leash is resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour for people taking access<br />

rights; <strong>the</strong> same should apply to land managers. This does not refer to working dogs<br />

under supervisi<strong>on</strong> but loose dogs roaming at will that can intimidate access takers.<br />

(D/0093/X)<br />

I would like <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unreas<strong>on</strong>able acti<strong>on</strong>s in secti<strong>on</strong> 4.6 expanded to include use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

verbal approaches or gesticulati<strong>on</strong> with intent to deter. (G/698/X)<br />

The ploughing up <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> field margins used by access takers is not included in Secti<strong>on</strong> 4.6 in<br />

<strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> obstructi<strong>on</strong>s and impediments (P/0869/X)<br />

Under point 2 bullet point 4 - alternatives must be adequately signed and and promoted<br />

and should be passable (within reas<strong>on</strong>) for <strong>the</strong> same group that could use <strong>the</strong> original<br />

route - e.g. elderly, disabled, young children … You should include barriers that limit <strong>the</strong><br />

elderly, disabled and young children who would o<strong>the</strong>rwise normally be able to use <strong>the</strong><br />

route. NB - Disability Discriminati<strong>on</strong> Act comes into force in 2004 - how does it apply in<br />

relati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> code? (P/1247/X)<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r examples would be: 1. The additi<strong>on</strong> or removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a bridge to <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong><br />

"removing a path or a gate, or an access point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a river or loch." 2. The n<strong>on</strong>-removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

fallen trees from recognised routes. 3. We would also suggest that planting crops right<br />

up to field boundaries would be an example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> obstructing or hindering public access.<br />

(P/0642/X)<br />

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18b. <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples<br />

is about right<br />

A/1084/X, A/0098/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0469/X, A/0477/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0825/X, A/0958/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/0028/X, B/0058/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0406/X, B/0525/X/d,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0755/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

E/1246/Y, E/0590/X, E/0616/X,<br />

G/0189/X, G/0580/X, G/0785/X,<br />

G/0806/X, H/0515/X, H/0941/X,<br />

K/0444/X, K/0714/X, L/0439/X,<br />

P/1060/X, P/1219/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/0577/X, P/0640/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0646/X, P/0889/X,<br />

P/1066/X, Q/1275/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0501/X, Q/0697/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/0893/X, Q/1057/X,<br />

U/1172/X, V/0207/X/d, W/1007/X,<br />

W/1032/X, W/1052/X/d, W/1158/X,<br />

W/1235/X, W/1287/X, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0018/X, W/0021/X/d, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0214/X, W/0246/X, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0334/X, W/0359/X, W/0411/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0457/X, W/0589/X,<br />

The list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples is very helpful. A useful additi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> list would be examples<br />

c<strong>on</strong>cerning coastal access. Coastal access is very important in many areas and coastal<br />

walks are very popular. An example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unreas<strong>on</strong>able obstructi<strong>on</strong> would be to erect a<br />

fence very close to a cliff edge, <strong>the</strong>reby making it dangerous for <strong>the</strong> public to walk al<strong>on</strong>g<br />

<strong>the</strong> coast. A sec<strong>on</strong>d, related example would be to close <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f a roadside parking area or<br />

entry point to <strong>the</strong> shore, especially to a beach. (P/0717/X)<br />

There are examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gates, stiles and o<strong>the</strong>r means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access being desigened or<br />

c<strong>on</strong>structed - deliberately, or unwittingly - in ways which obstruct access (e.g. ladder<br />

stiles which are very difficult to use, gates designed to prevent access by cyclists, rider s<br />

or canoeists). s.4.6 should be revised to ensure that access provisi<strong>on</strong>s are suitable for<br />

all uses, which will be available under <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong>. (V/0245/X)<br />

...barbed <strong>on</strong> top <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gates, or shooting beside or over a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way, or farm dogs loose in<br />

<strong>the</strong> farmyard and not under restraint or c<strong>on</strong>trol. (W/1149/X)<br />

As well as <strong>the</strong> "No Access" signs, is <strong>the</strong>re any chance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> requiring people not to erect<br />

"Private" or "Private Road" signs unless <strong>the</strong> place has a legal reas<strong>on</strong> to be private? (i.e<br />

<strong>the</strong> sign should be at <strong>the</strong> edge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> garden and not at <strong>the</strong> road-end; or <strong>the</strong> sign should<br />

specify "no vehicles" ra<strong>the</strong>r than just saying "no access". (W/0947/X)<br />

Reas<strong>on</strong>able - o<strong>the</strong>r exampes may become apparent in time and can be incorporated in<br />

revised editi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> review process. (A/0469/X)<br />

Reas<strong>on</strong>able: yes. Clear and complete: No and it could not be. (B/0406/X)<br />

I think <strong>the</strong> list is OK, it could end up very l<strong>on</strong>g if you try to cover all issues. .. We have to<br />

keep all roadside gates locked or we get fly dumping and burned out cars! (B/0826/X/d)<br />

We believe <strong>the</strong> list is reas<strong>on</strong>able but not exhaustive. (E/0616/X)<br />

All <strong>the</strong>se examples are needed. (G/0189/X)<br />

The list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what might be deemed to be an unreas<strong>on</strong>able obstructi<strong>on</strong> is fairly<br />

comprehensive and should not be reduced (G/0806/X)<br />

The list is reas<strong>on</strong>able in length and gives a broad list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples. (P/1060/X)<br />

This list is about right … more examples ... will become more obvious after <strong>the</strong> code is<br />

implemented and <strong>the</strong> results examined. (Q/1346/X)<br />

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18c. <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples<br />

is too l<strong>on</strong>g<br />

18d. some items <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

list need clarificati<strong>on</strong><br />

W/0625/X, W/0641/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0789/X, W/0972/X, W/1367/,<br />

X/1067/X, X/1174/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/0099/X, X/0405/X/d, X/0639/X,<br />

X/0896/X.<br />

A/0362/X, A/0740/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/0303/X/d, B/0385/X/d, B/1375/,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0599/X/d, B/0685/X,<br />

G/0960/X, H/1042/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0941/X, P/1304/X, P/0491/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, W/1112/X, W/1170/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0812/.<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/1320/, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0253/X/d, A/0397/X/d, A/0425/X,<br />

A/0437/X, A/0442/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0557/X, A/0719/X/d, A/0723/X,<br />

A/0732/X, A/0820/X, A/0927/X,<br />

A/0967/X, B/1133/X, B/1142/X,<br />

B/1147/X, B/1195/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/1269/X, B/1288/X, B/1303/X/d,<br />

B/1309/X, B/0042/X, B/0142/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0171/X, B/0178/X,<br />

B/0181/X, B/0218/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0342/X, B/0345/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/0385/X/d, B/0385/X/d, B/0406/X,<br />

Especially <strong>on</strong> land close to urban areas it is vital that field gates <strong>on</strong> to public roads be<br />

locked o<strong>the</strong>rwise fly-tipping is a frequent hazard. Even if such gates lead to paths, land<br />

managers should be allowed to lock gates although <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a stile could be a<br />

requirement. (B/0094/X)<br />

The "list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what might be deemed and unreas<strong>on</strong>able obstructi<strong>on</strong>" appears<br />

to us lengthy and threatening (B/0685/X)<br />

I do not agree with suggesti<strong>on</strong> that erecting a sign which deters <strong>the</strong> public from land to<br />

which <strong>the</strong>y do not have access rights is unreas<strong>on</strong>able. … Similarly many gates are<br />

locked to hinder <strong>the</strong> <strong>the</strong>ft <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> machinery and equipment. Land managers should not be<br />

expected to unlock <strong>the</strong>se gates and leave <strong>the</strong>mselves vulnerable. (B/0935/X)<br />

I do not agree with <strong>the</strong> suggesti<strong>on</strong> that erecting a sign which deters <strong>the</strong> public is<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able and it is essential for <strong>the</strong> avoidance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong> that suitable signs are<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to landowners and managers so that members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public can be<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> where <strong>the</strong>y cannot go. (B/0116/X/d)<br />

It is not acceptable that land managers are not allowed to leave an animal which is<br />

known to be dangerous in a field or where <strong>the</strong>re is core path or public right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way or<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r well used route. The proper rotati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields <strong>on</strong> a farm may require a bull to be<br />

with cows and although dairy bulls (<strong>the</strong> most vicious) are seldom in <strong>the</strong> open it cannot be<br />

right that <strong>the</strong> normal agricultural practices <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an area are restricted. (H/1042/X)<br />

Unbelievable! this sounds like <strong>the</strong> outline for a police state where no landmanager could<br />

ever be sure that some<strong>on</strong>e was not about to prosecute him for some oversight or o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

(W/0812/)<br />

The list should make some reference to cycling, horse riding and disabled access so<br />

land managers realise it is more than just walking. However, <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples is<br />

good (A/1070/X/d)<br />

'Navigable' needs to be expanded. Does it mean average c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s? A river that is<br />

navigable in spate may be impassable when low. (A/0719/X/d)<br />

Circumstances may arise where it is necessary to remove a path, gate or access point<br />

without providing a reas<strong>on</strong>able alternative, for <strong>the</strong> better management <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> visitors, <strong>the</strong><br />

landscape, or a specific piece <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land. This should be permittd where SNH and/or <strong>the</strong><br />

Local Authority agree that it is a good idea. (B/1271/X)<br />

…farmers must be free to put animals where necessary for good husbandry …<br />

Permanent signs or notices are quite different from temporary <strong>on</strong>es, which have a clear<br />

role in deterring access for specific reas<strong>on</strong>s for specific periods. (B/0347/X)<br />

No, because unless <strong>the</strong>re are actual examples, it is difficult to know what is and is not<br />

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B/0443/X, B/0446/X, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0599/X/d, B/0613/X, B/0663/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/0756/X, B/0772/X,<br />

B/0782/X, B/0891/X, B/0912/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/1368/X/d, B/1374/X,<br />

B/0839/X, C/1384/X, D/1206/X,<br />

D/1340/X, D/0350/Y, E/1038/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/0703/X, E/0867/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1192/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/1291/X, G/1330/X/d,<br />

G/0040/X, G/0189/X, G/0441/X,<br />

G/0759/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/X,<br />

G/1057/X, H/0220/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0310/X, H/0808/X, H/0941/X,<br />

J/1051/X, J/1058/X, J/1203/X,<br />

K/0722/X, M/0463/X, M/0852/X,<br />

N/1268/X, N/0773/X, P/1060/X,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1247/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/0548/X, P/0576/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0804/X, P/0890/X,<br />

P/0928/X, Q/1122/X, Q/1308/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, Q/0445/X, Q/0517/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, R/1278/X, R/0549/X,<br />

R/0868/X, U/0922/X, V/0207/X/d,<br />

V/0398/X, W/1048/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1130/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1310/X/d, W/1319/,<br />

W/0044/X, W/0057/X, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0191/X, W/0194/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0221/X, W/0255/X, W/0292/X,<br />

W/0334/X, W/0457/X, W/0529/X,<br />

W/0573/X, W/0632/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0812/, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/0986/X, W/1377/d/, W/1357/,<br />

W/1359/X, X/1056/X, X/1353/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/0099/X, X/0426/X,<br />

X/0896/X, X/0937/X.<br />

possible. C<strong>on</strong>cern is raised about <strong>the</strong> clause (b) permit to grow any tree, hedge or o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

vegetati<strong>on</strong>. In some areas, C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> areas, etc, it may not be allowed to cut trees<br />

and hedges. With o<strong>the</strong>r vegetati<strong>on</strong>, it would appear that <strong>the</strong> farmer may be required to<br />

keep <strong>the</strong> path clear <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> normal countryside vegetati<strong>on</strong> such as brambles or gorse. If he<br />

does not, <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> local authority can and recover <strong>the</strong> costs. The key test <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong><br />

obstructi<strong>on</strong>/impediment is deliberate or unreas<strong>on</strong>able is not clear cut. (B/0446/X)<br />

The list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples is reas<strong>on</strong>able but <strong>the</strong>se should not apply to "well-used routes" <strong>on</strong>ly.<br />

Locking a gate, storing slurry and leaving an animal known to be dangerous in a field<br />

should be regarded as deliberate or unreas<strong>on</strong>able <strong>on</strong> all routes and not just <strong>on</strong> well-used<br />

<strong>on</strong>es. (P/0804/X)<br />

...in general, <strong>the</strong> examples given are reas<strong>on</strong>able. The issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> closure <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> roadside<br />

parking may be bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong> scope <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act as it referes to motorized access.<br />

(P/1219/X)<br />

Bullet 10 should refer to a specific or individual animal known to be dangerous. As it<br />

reads currently, it implies that cattle (which are known to be dangerous particularly in<br />

certain circumstances) can no l<strong>on</strong>ger be in <strong>the</strong> countryside. (P/1060/X)<br />

Do necessary stock water gates across a river c<strong>on</strong>stitute an obstructi<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> a navigable<br />

river? Secti<strong>on</strong> 4.6 (W/1048/X)<br />

Bullet 2: insert after "locking a gate", "without reas<strong>on</strong>able cause". Remove <strong>the</strong> words<br />

"well-used", (also in bullets 6 and 10 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this paragraph). … Bullet 3 add "unless specific<br />

safety c<strong>on</strong>cerns exist". Bullet 4 remove navigable (interpretati<strong>on</strong> may differ). Bullet 8<br />

add that <strong>the</strong> local authority must have a duty to c<strong>on</strong>sult shareholders. Bullet 9 change to<br />

"...in a way which unjustifiably or unduly intimidates or deters <strong>the</strong> public". Insert new<br />

bullet (taken from 4.19 in following secti<strong>on</strong>): "avoiding <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "no access" signs or<br />

obstructing access by locking gates or o<strong>the</strong>r similar measures. There was also a<br />

suggesti<strong>on</strong> that paragraph 4.7 is amended to read "Many people prefer to use paths...".<br />

(X/0937/X)<br />

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18e. o<strong>the</strong>r A/1037/X, A/1136/X/d, A/0039/X,<br />

A/0097/X, A/0290/X, A/0319/X,<br />

A/0425/X, A/0440/X/d, A/0471/X/d,<br />

A/0477/X, A/0487/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0522/X, A/0522/X, A/0598/X/d,<br />

A/0732/X, A/0753/X, A/0838/X,<br />

A/0871/X, B/1114/X/d, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1271/X, B/0058/X, B/0094/X,<br />

B/0116/X/d, B/0118/X, B/0141/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0314/X, B/0366/X,<br />

B/0396/X/d, B/0404/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/0456/X, B/0462/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0525/X/d, B/0538/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0565/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0594/X, B/0704/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/0845/X, B/0913/X, B/0935/X,<br />

B/0956/X, B/0980/X, E/0516/X,<br />

E/0523/X, E/0906/X, E/0921/X,<br />

E/0923/X, E/0984/X, F/0748/X,<br />

G/0043/X, G/0082/X/d, G/0114/X,<br />

G/0189/X, G/0379/X, G/0584/X/d,<br />

G/0698/X, G/0736/X/d, H/1103/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/0460/X, H/0534/X,<br />

H/0615/X, J/1051/X, L/0513/X,<br />

N/0716/X, P/0928/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/0445/X, U/0922/X, V/0851/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1139/X, W/1151/X,<br />

W/1166/X, W/1170/X, W/1198/X,<br />

W/1209/X, W/1289/X, W/1318/,<br />

W/1343/X, W/0034/X, W/0071/X,<br />

W/0095/X, W/0100/d, W/0124/X,<br />

W/0179/X, W/0278/X, W/0279/X,<br />

W/0292/X, W/0489/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/0610/X, W/0696/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0775/X, W/0780/X, W/0817/X,<br />

W/0848/X, W/0886/X, W/0907/X,<br />

W/1378/, W/0348/X/d, X/1174/X,<br />

X/0149/X, X/0664/X, X/0727/X,<br />

X/0784/X, X/0888/X, X/0939/X.<br />

...can I ask that blocking <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths by stealth is given a menti<strong>on</strong>. Paths <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten disappear or<br />

become less used due to lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> maintainence, frequently a Local Authority is <strong>the</strong> land<br />

manager. (A/0487/X)<br />

In reality <strong>the</strong> impediment may have been put in place to serve <strong>the</strong> operati<strong>on</strong>al needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager. It should be remembered that <strong>the</strong> land manager has no advanced<br />

warning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> when a member <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public wishes to take access to <strong>the</strong> land. It is unlikely<br />

that many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> examples quoted would occur unless <strong>the</strong> land manager has previously<br />

suffered a bad experience. (B/0462/X)<br />

Why is <strong>the</strong>re a l<strong>on</strong>g list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples by land users but no comparable list for access<br />

takers? Whilst this guidance is satisfactory, it does imply that <strong>the</strong>re is a major problem<br />

with obstructi<strong>on</strong>. (B/0794/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Many resp<strong>on</strong>dents sought clarificati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what might be deemed an unreas<strong>on</strong>able obstructi<strong>on</strong>, whilst a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>rs<br />

felt that <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unreas<strong>on</strong>able behaviour was about <strong>the</strong> right length. In saying this, many <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> highlighted that <strong>the</strong> list was not<br />

exhaustive, but recognised that it would become very l<strong>on</strong>g if it sought to cover every situati<strong>on</strong>. A proporti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g>, particularly from recreati<strong>on</strong><br />

users, wished to see <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> examples leng<strong>the</strong>ned, while a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents, principally from land management interests, c<strong>on</strong>sidered <strong>the</strong> list to be<br />

too l<strong>on</strong>g.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

There was no c<strong>on</strong>sensus <strong>on</strong> this questi<strong>on</strong> but some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> specific issues raised related to:<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need for examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> when and where <strong>the</strong>re might be a justifiable reas<strong>on</strong> for locking a gate, such as resp<strong>on</strong>ding to incidents <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fly tipping and<br />

<strong>the</strong>ft.;<br />

• erecting deer fencing without provisi<strong>on</strong> for people to cross over or to get through;<br />

• use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> electric fencing or barbed wire without warning or protecti<strong>on</strong> for users;<br />

• failure to c<strong>on</strong>sider <strong>the</strong> full range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong> users;<br />

• unc<strong>on</strong>trolled working dogs;<br />

• failure to take account <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access when planning major land use changes or operati<strong>on</strong>s; and<br />

• including examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> additi<strong>on</strong>al obstructi<strong>on</strong>s, including those to be found <strong>on</strong> water.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

In addressing <strong>the</strong>se c<strong>on</strong>cerns, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has included a clearer link between land manager resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities and <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> (in relati<strong>on</strong> to<br />

obstructi<strong>on</strong>s). It also has some additi<strong>on</strong>al examples <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unreas<strong>on</strong>able acti<strong>on</strong>s, whilst at <strong>the</strong> same time recognising that <strong>the</strong> list cannot be exhaustive. In<br />

additi<strong>on</strong>, examples are included in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code to clarify why some acti<strong>on</strong>s might amount to deliberate obstructi<strong>on</strong> (and c<strong>on</strong>versely why <strong>the</strong> acti<strong>on</strong><br />

may be reas<strong>on</strong>able in o<strong>the</strong>r circumstances).<br />

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19 - Do you think that <strong>the</strong> guidance strikes <strong>the</strong> right balance between <strong>the</strong> obligati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

that land managers have under o<strong>the</strong>r laws, <strong>the</strong> obligati<strong>on</strong>s that <strong>the</strong>y have under <strong>the</strong><br />

Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 and <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people exercising access rights?<br />

If not, it would help us if you could explain where <strong>the</strong> balance is wr<strong>on</strong>g, and why.<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

19a. Yes, <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

strikes <strong>the</strong> right balance<br />

between land managers'<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilites and <strong>the</strong><br />

needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

A/0009/X, A/0362/X, A/0425/X,<br />

A/0469/X, A/0518/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/1084/X, B/1093/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/0058/X, B/0303/X/d, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0599/X/d, B/0772/X, B/0819/X,<br />

D/0022/X, E/1246/Y, E/0590/X,<br />

E/0703/X, G/1251/X, G/0043/X,<br />

G/0114/X, G/0189/X, G/0379/X,<br />

G/0759/X, G/0785/X, G/0806/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0807/X, J/1284/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0439/X, P/1060/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/1247/X, P/1272/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/0384/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/0576/X, P/0577/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/0804/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0899/X, Q/1122/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, Q/0232/X, Q/0445/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0697/X, Q/0707/X, U/0922/X,<br />

V/0207/X/d, W/1130/X, W/1158/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1310/X/d, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0017/X, W/0021/X/d,<br />

W/0056/X/d, W/0095/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0246/X, W/0334/X,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0388/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0644/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/1007/X, W/1373/, W/1377/d,<br />

X/1385/X.<br />

19b. No. B/1041/X, B/1049/X, B/1094/X,<br />

B/1117/X, B/1262/X, B/1281/X,<br />

B/1292/X, B/1293/X, B/1306/X/d,<br />

B/1328/X, B/0167/X, B/0171/X,<br />

B/0215/X, B/0299/X, B/0380/X,<br />

B/0385/X/d, B/0406/X, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0512/X/d, B/0525/X/d,<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

The spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code is fair to both sides (A/0518/X)<br />

The guidance to land managers when carrying out land management operati<strong>on</strong>s is<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>able and acceptable (B/0819/X).<br />

The guidance strikes <strong>the</strong> right balance. (G/0114/X)<br />

We feel that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code makes a good first attempt at balancing access rights and<br />

land management activity. (P/1272/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> guidance generally balances <strong>the</strong> differing obligati<strong>on</strong>s well. ..<strong>the</strong>re is a need to<br />

ensure that guidance and working practices undertaken as a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

and grant schemes does not c<strong>on</strong>flict with this legislati<strong>on</strong>. (W/1287/X)<br />

The guidance is very unbalanced. The sancti<strong>on</strong>s against land managers resulting from<br />

<strong>the</strong> sweeping enforcement powers granted to local authorities in chapter 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act are<br />

not matched by a comparable level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> measures in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> breaches <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights.<br />

(B/0525/X/d)<br />

The Tenancy Agreement <strong>on</strong> this farm states "The Tenant shall not, without <strong>the</strong><br />

Landlord's c<strong>on</strong>sent in writing permit any pers<strong>on</strong> to enter <strong>the</strong> Holding … for <strong>the</strong> purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

camping …picnicking... (B/1281/X)<br />

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B/0540/X, B/0551/X, B/0558/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0585/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0660/X, B/0677/X, B/0715/X,<br />

B/0741/X, B/0745/X, B/0749/X,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0794/X, B/0834/X,<br />

B/0925/X, B/0943/X, B/0956/X,<br />

B/0980/X, B/0294/X, B/0294/X,<br />

E/0616/X, G/1254/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/0580/X, G/0960/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/1140/X, H/1179/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0310/X, H/0460/X,<br />

H/0515/X, H/0915/X, J/1058/X,<br />

M/1043/X, P/1060/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0899/X, Q/0517/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/0739/X, R/1256/X,<br />

R/1278/X, U/1172/X, V/0398/X,<br />

V/0398/X, V/0851/X, W/1032/X,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1263/X, W/1289/X,<br />

W/1318/, W/0108/X, W/0194/X,<br />

W/0199/X, W/0255/X, W/0464/X,<br />

W/0483/X, W/0618/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0669/X/d, W/0735/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0780/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/0792/X, W/0800/X, W/0907/X,<br />

W/0963/X, X/1115/X, X/1174/X,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0405/X/d, X/0495/X,<br />

X/0639/X, X/0896/X, X/1385/X.<br />

In secti<strong>on</strong> 4 reference is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to land managers giving advice to people about land<br />

management operati<strong>on</strong>s. It might be relevant in this secti<strong>on</strong> to add that if advice is not<br />

followed <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> activity is irresp<strong>on</strong>sible and that <strong>the</strong> individual is resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>sequences <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s. (B/0512/X/d)<br />

It is wr<strong>on</strong>g to simply exclude <strong>the</strong> crossing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> greens which really gives entirely <strong>the</strong> wr<strong>on</strong>g<br />

impressi<strong>on</strong>. It is <strong>the</strong> dangers associated with crossing golf courses that needs to be<br />

addressed in <strong>the</strong> Access Code. (B/0660/X)<br />

The Code … is ra<strong>the</strong>r quiet <strong>on</strong> practical guidance <strong>on</strong> how landmanagers can c<strong>on</strong>tinue to<br />

carry out <strong>the</strong>ir land management activites safely and ec<strong>on</strong>omically. The whole emphasis<br />

is <strong>on</strong> land management being displaced by recreati<strong>on</strong>al needs - this is not practical.<br />

(H/1103/X)<br />

The Code pays scant regard to Biosecurity, <strong>the</strong> dangers to human health, animal health<br />

and to <strong>the</strong> commercial requirements with which farmers must comply to maintain <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

membership <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> quality assurance schemes. (H/0220/X)<br />

A total physical separati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access-taking public from farm animals, from crops and<br />

from farming operati<strong>on</strong>s is <strong>the</strong> ideal…….Arable and grass field margins, safety issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

unwitting exposure to agricultural chemicals, such places do not always have well<br />

defined edges to crops. There is a real danger that access takes could unwittingly cause<br />

damage to <strong>the</strong> producti<strong>on</strong> area. .......Many farmers have increased obligati<strong>on</strong>s for<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> field margins and headlands under envir<strong>on</strong>mental management<br />

agreements with SEERAD and with SNH. (H/0310/X)<br />

The should be noificati<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> land managers' guidance about where H&S legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

takes precedence over access rights. The use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> appropriate Health and Safety<br />

Executive (HSE) signage should be encouraged and appropriate wording/symbols<br />

carried through into access signage where relevant. (P/0899/X)<br />

Many farmers are members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> food quality assurance schemes which stipulate<br />

significant levels <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disease preventi<strong>on</strong> and c<strong>on</strong>trol measures. (P/0804/X)<br />

I suggest that more safeguards for rural dwellers be built into you proposals, to ensure<br />

biosecurity and privacy, and to prevent damage to crops and disturbance to livestock.<br />

(W/1263/X)<br />

The t<strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code comes over as insufficiently helpful to land management activities -<br />

both <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> and <strong>the</strong> Code have left land managers seriously c<strong>on</strong>cerned that <strong>the</strong>y<br />

are being ignored. (W/0907/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code pays insufficient cognisance both to <strong>the</strong> requirements for British<br />

Waterways to undertake such management and <strong>the</strong> legislative framework that defines its<br />

powers and duties. … <strong>the</strong> Code must make clear reference to British Waterways' right to<br />

exclude access at times under Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 (1) (g) (i) and (ii) <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland)<br />

Act 2003 - i.e. for <strong>the</strong> undertaking <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> building, civil engineering and demoliti<strong>on</strong> works or<br />

as works being carried out by a statutory undertaker for <strong>the</strong> purposes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> undertaking<br />

- <strong>the</strong> Code should note British Waterways as a statutory undertaker. British Waterways<br />

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19c. No - <strong>the</strong>re are too<br />

many obligati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> land<br />

managers<br />

A/0560/X, B/1009/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/1046/X, B/1049/X, B/1068/X,<br />

B/1075/X, B/1083/X, B/1101/X,<br />

B/1104/X, B/1108/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

B/1114/X/d, B/1126/X, B/1143/X,<br />

B/1152/X, B/1175/X, B/1190/X,<br />

B/1199/X, B/1207/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/1248/X, B/1271/X, B/1292/X,<br />

B/1293/X, B/1295/X, B/0028/X,<br />

B/0049/X, B/0054/X, B/0069/X,<br />

B/0075/X, B/0085/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0141/X, B/0186/X, B/0203/Y,<br />

B/0211/X, B/0218/X, B/0227/X/d,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0293/X, B/0322/X,<br />

B/0326/X, B/0329/X, B/0366/X,<br />

B/0368/X, B/0371/X, B/0385/X/d,<br />

B/0419/X, B/0428/X/d, B/0443/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/0465/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

B/0535/X, B/0538/X, B/0545/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0563/X, B/0564/X,<br />

B/0568/X, B/0569/X, B/0571/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0585/X, B/0593/X,<br />

B/0606/X, B/0613/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0633/X, B/0634/X, B/0638/X/d,<br />

B/0645/X, B/0677/X, B/0685/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0755/X, B/0798/X,<br />

B/0802/X, B/0840/X, B/0925/X,<br />

B/0929/X, B/0936/X, B/0953/X,<br />

B/0954/X, B/0956/X, B/0994/X,<br />

B/1335//, B/0294/X, D/0233/X,<br />

E/1074/X, E/1211/X, E/1245/X,<br />

E/0156/X, E/0208/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0809/X, E/0809/X, E/0924/X,<br />

H/1042/X, H/1179/X, H/1182/X,<br />

H/1196/X, H/1327/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0808/X, H/0941/X, J/1058/X,<br />

would not unreas<strong>on</strong>ably exclude access in <strong>the</strong> executi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> its duties. ... <strong>the</strong> right<br />

balance has not been struck. Unlike most landowners British Waterways has obligati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

under a variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Acts including <strong>the</strong> Transport Acts, <strong>the</strong> British Waterways Acts and <strong>the</strong><br />

Harbours Acts. (X/0896/X)<br />

Safety - both for <strong>the</strong> public and for those working in <strong>the</strong> countryside is a worry, especially<br />

with society becoming more litigious and <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cern over liability. Working farmyards<br />

should be excluded from <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access - <strong>on</strong> health & safety grounds. (B/0186/X).<br />

I am also c<strong>on</strong>cerned that walkers may enter a field so<strong>on</strong> after it has been sprayed with<br />

pesticides. As <strong>the</strong> spraying operative has several to cover in a day, it is unlikely that any<br />

walker could be approached at all let al<strong>on</strong>e before <strong>the</strong>y have entered <strong>the</strong> field.<br />

(B/0329/X)<br />

Increased access may lead to biosecurity being compromised if gates are left open. a)<br />

livestock from different farms and differing health status/organic status will be mixed. b)<br />

an automatic thirteen-day standstill results for farms where stock has strayed/been<br />

returned. c) Forestry gates left open will result in feral sheep straying <strong>on</strong>to farmland with<br />

<strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> spreading sheep scab. (B/1207/X)<br />

Code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Recommendati<strong>on</strong>s for <strong>the</strong> Welfare <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Livestock: Animal Health and Biosecurity<br />

… With <strong>the</strong> Access Code in its present form, such measures would be impossible …<br />

There must be better coordinati<strong>on</strong> between advice in <strong>the</strong> Access Code and advice<br />

issued by <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive to farmers (B/0585/X)<br />

Since <strong>the</strong> protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> SSSIs, pSACs, NNRs, and Nati<strong>on</strong>al Parks, is <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Land Manager, he should be given <strong>the</strong> right to restrict access at times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year<br />

when disturbance might damage <strong>the</strong> designated interest in <strong>the</strong> site. (B/1295/X)<br />

The <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive has stated clearly and publicly that <strong>the</strong> Act should not impose<br />

any new burden <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> liability <strong>on</strong> land managers. The Code directly c<strong>on</strong>tradicts this<br />

statement by explicitly imposing <strong>on</strong> land managers new rep<strong>on</strong>sibilities to inform, direct<br />

and advise access takers. ... At <strong>the</strong> very least, those wishing to wander through livestock<br />

areas at will should be subject to <strong>the</strong> same rules and c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s as those who work in<br />

<strong>the</strong> livestock industry. (B/0628/X)<br />

It c<strong>on</strong>cerns me that walkers, including those using <strong>the</strong> Great Glen Way, may feel<br />

tempted to 'wild camp' <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> shores <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Loch Ness (Urquart Bay) and deny me <strong>the</strong><br />

income which I would have derived from my campsite, while also inevitably causing<br />

polluti<strong>on</strong> and disturbance. (D/0233/X)<br />

Many reservoirs and catchments are small and feed untreated supplies. There should<br />

be <strong>the</strong> power to exclude small reservoirs and catchments. (W/0641/X)<br />

This sounds so easy <strong>on</strong> paper but in fact managing this informati<strong>on</strong> can be costly.<br />

Where free access has been enjoyed historically, like Finland, I understand <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>us is<br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> user to be aware and assess <strong>the</strong> hazards for <strong>the</strong>mselves. The price <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> free<br />

access should be borne by <strong>the</strong> user not <strong>the</strong> owner. (W/0708/X/d)<br />

If I am to provide access to <strong>the</strong> general public, <strong>the</strong>n suitable parking and visitor facilities<br />

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19d. No - <strong>the</strong>re should be<br />

more obligati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> land<br />

managers to ensure<br />

people can gain access<br />

19e. <strong>the</strong> obligati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager are not<br />

clear<br />

M/0687/X, P/0869/X, Q/1061/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/1184/X, Q/1061/X,<br />

R/1256/X, V/0851/X, W/1007/X,<br />

W/1020/X, W/1110/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1170/X, W/1198/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1235/X, W/1289/X, W/1324/,<br />

W/0084/X, W/0109/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/0222/X, W/0271/X, W/0277/X,<br />

W/0295/X, W/0412/X, W/0417/X,<br />

W/0483/X, W/0541/X, W/0542/X,<br />

W/0554/X, W/0555/X, W/0566/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0591/X, W/0625/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0812/, W/0822/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/0907/X, X/1115/X, X/1174/X,<br />

X/0002/X, X/0099/X, X/0193/X/d,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0405/X/d, X/0639/X,<br />

X/0664/X, X/0939/X.<br />

A/0820/X, A/0838/X, A/0162/X,<br />

A/0290/X, A/0437/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0666/X, A/0774/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

D/0022/X, G/0831/X, G/0854/X,<br />

G/0854/X, G/1098/X, G/0164/X,<br />

G/0441/X, L/0791/X, M/0463/X,<br />

P/0889/X, P/0890/X, Q/0157/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0930/X, W/833/X,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1111/X, W/0057/X,<br />

W/0268/, W/0489/X, W/0573/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0702/Y, W/0792/X,<br />

W/0800/X, W/0887/X, W/1329/X,<br />

X/0937/X.<br />

A/846/X, A/1070/X/d, A/1073/X,<br />

A/1077/X, A/1082/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0362/X, A/0437/X, A/0471/X/d,<br />

A/0557/X, A/0560/X, A/0658/X/d,<br />

A/0933/X, A/0958/X, B/1015/X,<br />

B/1063/X, B/1089/X, B/1094/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1094/X, B/1104/X,<br />

B/1117/X, B/1197/X, B/1207/X,<br />

toge<strong>the</strong>r with maintained paths and signage should be provided and maintained at public<br />

expense. (X/0196/X)<br />

Use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> term "limiting" here could be taken to imply that land managers have <strong>the</strong><br />

power to reduce or remove access rights when in fact <strong>on</strong>ly a local authority can do this.<br />

(G/0831/X)<br />

I see problems where access is through farmyards and would ask that <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

emphasises that Land Managers should provide alternative routes where <strong>the</strong> Land<br />

Managers prefer that <strong>the</strong> farmyard be avoided (W/0833/X)<br />

The code for land managers is less satisfactory, peppered as it is with permitted<br />

excepti<strong>on</strong>s. This needs tightening up. (W/0268)<br />

Stalking/shooting seas<strong>on</strong>s are always am<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> most c<strong>on</strong>tentious access issues so it is<br />

surprising <strong>the</strong>y have such a very low pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ile in <strong>the</strong> code. It strikes me <strong>the</strong> problems<br />

associated with stalking/shooting are so similar to those associated with land<br />

management operati<strong>on</strong>s (LMOs) that logically <strong>the</strong>y should be dealt with toge<strong>the</strong>r in<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>s 3 and 4. If <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> LMO is already meant to include stalking/shooting<br />

<strong>the</strong>n this must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> much clearer. (A/0437/X)<br />

…need more guidance from <strong>the</strong> code <strong>on</strong> how to c<strong>on</strong>tinue managing "resp<strong>on</strong>sibly" … The<br />

<strong>draft</strong> code is good at telling me what I must not do, but useless <strong>on</strong> telling me what I<br />

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B/1208/X, B/1210/X, B/1236/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1244/X, B/1250/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/1271/X, B/1281/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/1295/X, B/1309/X,<br />

B/1322//d, B/1347/X, B/0005/X,<br />

B/0038/X, B/0045/Z, B/0051/X,<br />

B/0055/X, B/0076/X, B/0136/X,<br />

B/0152/X, B/0178/X, B/0184/X,<br />

B/0322/X, B/0404/X, B/0406/X,<br />

B/0436/X, B/0443/X, B/0443/X,<br />

B/0462/X, B/0496/X, B/0547/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0574/X, B/0593/X,<br />

B/0594/X, B/0628/X, B/0756/X,<br />

B/0794/X, B/0802/X, B/0936/X,<br />

B/1365/X, B/1368/X/d, B/1376/,<br />

B/0446/X, B/0938/X/d, B/0964/X,<br />

B/0965/X/d, B/0969/X, B/0980/X,<br />

B/0994/X, D/1206/X, D/0521/X,<br />

E/1113/X, E/1113/X, E/1257/X,<br />

E/0172/X, E/0590/X, E/0616/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1330/X/d, G/0960/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/1118/X, H/1140/X,<br />

H/1276/X, H/0959/X, J/1058/X,<br />

J/1203/X, J/1284/X, K/1241/X,<br />

K/0444/X, L/0065/X, N/0137/X,<br />

P/1066/X, P/1066/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1273/X, P/1296/X,<br />

P/1300/X, P/0548/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0643/X, P/0889/X,<br />

P/0890/X, Q/1061/X, Q/1308/X,<br />

Q/0073/X, R/868/X, R/1221/X,<br />

R/1256/X, R/1278/X, R/0549/X,<br />

V/0398/X, W/848/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1112/X, W/1112/X,<br />

W/1280/X, W/1315/, W/1318/,<br />

W/0044/X, W/0064/X, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0124/X, W/0140/X, W/0159/X,<br />

W/0190/X, W/0242/X, W/0402/X,<br />

W/0435/X, W/0489/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0614/X, W/0641/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

should do. (B/0436/X)<br />

With respect to health and safety issues … <strong>the</strong>re are serious c<strong>on</strong>cerns regarding <strong>the</strong><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>siblities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> … <strong>the</strong> Golf Club towards members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public who might exercise<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access <strong>on</strong>to our course whe<strong>the</strong>r reas<strong>on</strong>ably or o<strong>the</strong>rwise. (B/0547/X)<br />

I am also most c<strong>on</strong>cerned about notices. I farm wild boar (with SNH encouragement).<br />

Under <strong>the</strong> Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976, I am obliged to put up a big sign telling<br />

people to keep out. Under <strong>the</strong> new legislati<strong>on</strong>, it is illegal to. This is seriously worrying,<br />

not <strong>on</strong>ly for safety, but also liability insurance. .. All animals, including Tups, can be very<br />

dangerous, especially if <strong>the</strong> visitor has a dog. (B/0055/X)<br />

If o<strong>the</strong>r horses from o<strong>the</strong>r yards are allowed access to ride in fields, our worming<br />

programme will be ruined and <strong>the</strong>re will be no way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>trolling worm infestati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our<br />

grazing. (B/0965/X/d)<br />

...we have grave c<strong>on</strong>cerns for <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> young people in line with our resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities<br />

as carers and providers under <strong>the</strong> Children Act. … We note that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> code requires<br />

land managers to ensure <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those who access <strong>the</strong> area - to balance this <strong>the</strong>re<br />

must surely be a requirement to ensure <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people who are using <strong>the</strong> site for its<br />

advertised purpose. (D/1206/X)<br />

The code is also unclear about <strong>the</strong> requirements <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers and owners to<br />

maintain and repair structures to a standard bey<strong>on</strong>d that fit for <strong>the</strong>ir own requirement and<br />

for <strong>the</strong> satisfacti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Health and Safety and occupier's liability legislati<strong>on</strong>. ... The Code<br />

must include more accurate guidance to avoid such c<strong>on</strong>flicts between legislati<strong>on</strong> ...<br />

There is also an argument for loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> amenity through signage, which can be visually<br />

detrimental, and signs are also classified as development in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Town and<br />

Country Planning (C<strong>on</strong>trol <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Advertisements) (Scotland) Regulati<strong>on</strong>s 1984, albeit with<br />

<strong>the</strong> allowance for deemed planning c<strong>on</strong>sent when falling within certain criteria.<br />

(E/0616/X)<br />

It will be very difficult for land managers to indicate <strong>the</strong> extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> danger from e.g. crop<br />

spraying where countryside users are not <strong>on</strong> defined paths. Also <strong>the</strong> length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> time <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

residual danger from crop spraying presumably depends <strong>on</strong> wea<strong>the</strong>r c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s and <strong>on</strong><br />

what <strong>the</strong> users are doing. (P/1273/X)<br />

4.7 … this point should be given much greater emphasis throughout <strong>the</strong> Code. Core<br />

Path Networks will provide a key management tool in providing and managing<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (P/0577/X)<br />

There does not appear to be any reference to land managers' resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities for water<br />

and ice rescue. It would not be practicable for <strong>Scottish</strong> Water to provide such a service<br />

and it would be helpful if <strong>the</strong> code <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> some reference to this (R/0868/X)<br />

It is very unlikely that m<strong>on</strong>ies will stretch far enough to put in paths as envisi<strong>on</strong>ed in <strong>the</strong><br />

act. Paths may well be formed naturally, but who will maintain <strong>the</strong>se paths and stop<br />

<strong>the</strong>m becoming dangerous and <strong>the</strong>refore <strong>the</strong> landowner liable. (W/0242/X)<br />

Land managers have a duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care to recreati<strong>on</strong>al users. Increasingly, for woodland<br />

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19f. <strong>the</strong>re should be<br />

different obligati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

land manager<br />

W/0780/X, W/0789/X, W/0977/X/d,<br />

W/1011/X, X/1036/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/1067/X, X/1171/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/1298/X, X/0784/X.<br />

A/0825/X, A/1095/X, A/0098/X,<br />

A/0430/X/d, A/0442/X, A/0560/X,<br />

A/0655/X/d, B/0801/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1167/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/1216/X, B/1271/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0462/X, B/0462/X, B/0465/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0467/X, B/0470/X,<br />

B/0472/X, B/0480/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0488/X/d, B/0505/X, B/0506/X,<br />

B/0569/X, B/0571/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0594/X, B/0624/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0760/X, B/1142/X, B/0294/X,<br />

B/1375/, E/0867/X, E/1201/X,<br />

E/0523/X, G/1099/X, G/1192/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0515/X, H/0552/X,<br />

K/0722/X, P/0548/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0928/X, Q/1178/X, Q/0415/X,<br />

Q/0445/X, R/0549/X, W/1189/X,<br />

W/1321/, W/0217/X, W/0246/X,<br />

W/0402/X, W/0541/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, X/1174/X, X/0495/X.<br />

19g. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0471/X/d, A/0478/X/d, A/0740/X,<br />

A/0796/X/d, A/0927/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0505/X, B/0634/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/0913/X, B/0946/X,<br />

B/1039/X/d, B/1049/X, B/1195/X,<br />

B/1094/X, E/0516/X, E/0877/X,<br />

E/0923/X, G/0917/X, G/0920/X,<br />

G/1099/X, H/0674/X, H/1103/X,<br />

managers, this has to be taken to include z<strong>on</strong>ing to avoid c<strong>on</strong>flict between various<br />

categories <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> users, e.g. as discussed in <strong>the</strong> FC Woodland Design Guidelines. Under<br />

<strong>the</strong> code it appears that such z<strong>on</strong>ing will be irrelevant, if not illegal. Will woodland<br />

managers be c<strong>on</strong>sidered to have failed in <strong>the</strong>ir duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care in <strong>the</strong> event <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>flict<br />

between different user groups? (W/0044/X)<br />

The Act does not give <strong>the</strong> land manager <strong>the</strong> right to suspend access rights but <strong>the</strong> Draft<br />

Code implies this to be <strong>the</strong> case (p53 6.3). (W/0489/X)<br />

These questi<strong>on</strong>s arise from <strong>the</strong> Park's operati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land and water based activities<br />

utilising council owned land and loch. The loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> managing c<strong>on</strong>trol, apart from financial<br />

implicati<strong>on</strong>s is likely to result in health and safety issues, inappropriate use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> facilities<br />

and c<strong>on</strong>flict between users. (X/1036/X)<br />

It does not address <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilty farmers have under <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive's own<br />

biosecurity guidelines. (B/0466/X/d)<br />

"Access around margins <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields where crops are growing". How does this affect grant<br />

aided habitat areas? (B/0467/X)<br />

Land managers should have <strong>the</strong> right to block or suspend access in situati<strong>on</strong>s where<br />

rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access are being blantantly and c<strong>on</strong>sistently abused. (B/0628/X)<br />

Many land management operati<strong>on</strong>s are slow and subtle changes … Guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

less obvious operati<strong>on</strong>s and what to be aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> needs to be included. (P/0928/X)<br />

It is imperative that deer management is placed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land management activities<br />

- which may not always be visible (but may be audible). Deer managers in particular<br />

must be able to advise, using signs or o<strong>the</strong>r means, that stalking is in progress.<br />

(B/0481/X)<br />

Local c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> suggests that people will be c<strong>on</strong>cerned if large numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land<br />

management signs start appearing all over <strong>the</strong> countryside. (P/0646/X)<br />

Encouraging land owners to make c<strong>on</strong>tact with <strong>the</strong> local authority prior to undertaking an<br />

operati<strong>on</strong> that would be c<strong>on</strong>strained by or would c<strong>on</strong>strain access rights should be<br />

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H/0310/X, P/0316/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0899/X, P/0928/X, P/869/X,<br />

R/0549/X, R/1278/X, W/0100//d,<br />

W/0483/X, W/0705/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/1151/X, X/0122/X, X/0388/X.<br />

promoted. (P/0928/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

This questi<strong>on</strong> generated a large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g>. Whilst many indicated that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code did achieve <strong>the</strong> right balance in its guidance, <strong>the</strong><br />

majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents ei<strong>the</strong>r disagreed and felt that <strong>the</strong>re were too many obligati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> land managers or <strong>the</strong>y sought fur<strong>the</strong>r clarificati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance<br />

provided.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

A wide range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> issues was raised in resp<strong>on</strong>se to this questi<strong>on</strong>, including:<br />

• a c<strong>on</strong>tinuing c<strong>on</strong>cern, particularly am<strong>on</strong>g land managers, about <strong>the</strong> relati<strong>on</strong>ship between <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> and health and safety legislati<strong>on</strong>;<br />

• a need for guidance to clarify if <strong>on</strong>e piece <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> legislati<strong>on</strong> took precedence over <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r;<br />

• uncertainty over a land manager’s future ability to comply with regulati<strong>on</strong>s or c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s under a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> schemes, initiatives, codes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> practice and<br />

agreements, (including <strong>the</strong> forestry support mechanisms, agri-envir<strong>on</strong>ment schemes, farm assurance schemes and <strong>the</strong> Biosecurity Code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

practice);<br />

• c<strong>on</strong>tinuing uncertainty about <strong>the</strong> steps and acti<strong>on</strong>s that land managers could reas<strong>on</strong>ably take to manage access to help <strong>the</strong>m undertake routine<br />

land management operati<strong>on</strong>s safely, effectively and efficiently, particularly for those operati<strong>on</strong>s undertaken at short notice to take advantage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

favourable c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s; and<br />

• <strong>the</strong> limited protecti<strong>on</strong> available to land managers when faced by irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by users which had effects <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir work, or where users<br />

did not heed <strong>the</strong>ir advice.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The Proposed Code c<strong>on</strong>firms <strong>the</strong> requirements <strong>on</strong> land managers under <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> and also points to <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities placed <strong>on</strong><br />

users in Secti<strong>on</strong> 3, including <strong>the</strong> need to follow advice or reas<strong>on</strong>able requests from land managers. This provides greater c<strong>on</strong>text and balance for <strong>the</strong><br />

advice to land managers. The Proposed Code is c<strong>on</strong>sistent with <strong>the</strong> Biosecurity Code and <strong>the</strong> Health & Safety At Work Act 1974. For <strong>the</strong> latter, <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code outlines what precauti<strong>on</strong>s land managers can take to alert or keep people away from a site where a hazardous operati<strong>on</strong> is being<br />

undertaken without c<strong>on</strong>travening <strong>the</strong> obligati<strong>on</strong>s in respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights.<br />

In helping land managers to manage every day situati<strong>on</strong>s, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code clarifies <strong>the</strong> scope <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informal acti<strong>on</strong>s that land managers can take, if<br />

necessary, to manage access during land management operati<strong>on</strong>s - drawing a distincti<strong>on</strong> between <strong>the</strong>se informal acti<strong>on</strong>s and formal mechanisms for<br />

limiting access rights which rest with <strong>the</strong> local authorities. Advice <strong>on</strong> specific land management operati<strong>on</strong>s or activities have also been covered in changes<br />

to Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code, although it is accepted that <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> detailed good practice advice for specific operati<strong>on</strong>s would be useful to<br />

support <strong>the</strong> implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights.<br />

SNH also recognises that c<strong>on</strong>cerns about <strong>the</strong> relati<strong>on</strong>ship between access rights and <strong>the</strong> rules <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r incentives schemes/initiatives, hinge <strong>on</strong> a<br />

percepti<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> acti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong> users may invalidate <strong>the</strong> purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> scheme and result in payments being withheld. SNH does not c<strong>on</strong>sider<br />

that this is a major issue, but <strong>the</strong>re is a need to clarify, or where necessary to seek changes to, existing rules or c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s for various agri-envir<strong>on</strong>ment<br />

support schemes and initiatives to take account <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislative change.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 20 - Do you think <strong>the</strong> guidance provides sufficient encouragement and guidance for<br />

acti<strong>on</strong> by land managers to help people exercise rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

20a. Yes - <strong>the</strong> guidance<br />

seeks sufficient acti<strong>on</strong> by<br />

land managers<br />

20b. No – <strong>the</strong>re should<br />

be greater<br />

encouragement for land<br />

managers to act to enable<br />

access<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/1084/X, A/0009/X,<br />

A/0362/X, A/0477/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0719/X/d, B/1093/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

B/1152/X, B/0058/X, B/0178/X,<br />

B/0218/X, B/0303/X/d, B/0599/X/d,<br />

B/0772/X, B/0794/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/0980/X, D/0022/X, E/1246/Y,<br />

G/1251/X, G/0189/X, G/0379/X,<br />

G/0759/X, G/0785/X, G/0806/X,<br />

G/0917/X, G/0960/X, G/0973/X,<br />

H/0515/X, J/1051/X, K/1241/X,<br />

K/0714/X, P/1218/X, P/1237/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1272/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/0576/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0646/X, P/0717/X,<br />

P/0889/X, P/0899/X, P/1066/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/1178/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, Q/0445/X, Q/0697/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, U/0922/X, V/0207/X/d,<br />

V/0398/X, W/1007/X, W/1158/X,<br />

W/0003/X, W/0021/X/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0112/X, W/0182/X, W/0194/X,<br />

W/0246/X, W/0334/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/0972/X, W/1367/,<br />

W/1377/d/, X/1056/X, X/1067/X.<br />

A/0133/X, A/0134/X/d, A/0397/X/d,<br />

A/0437/X, A/0469/X, A/0477/X,<br />

A/0518/X, A/0553/X, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0967/X, A/1037/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1072/X, B/1117/X, B/1175/X,<br />

B/1309/X, B/1347/X, B/0306/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0404/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/0473/X/d, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0512/X/d, B/0525/X/d, B/0565/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0593/X, B/0599/X/d,<br />

B/0613/X, E/0616/X, G/1098/X,<br />

G/1214/X, G/1330/X/d, G/0043/X,<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

"provides sufficient encouragement and guidance for acti<strong>on</strong> by land managers" -<br />

possibly, but will land managers pay heed? (A/0477/X)<br />

..landowners are more than helpful if <strong>the</strong>y know an organised event is taking place.<br />

They advise <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> safest terrain and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten agree to leave gates open and move animals<br />

out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields. (A/0518/X)<br />

OK, but again <strong>the</strong> landholder is landed with extra expense and <strong>the</strong> access taker pays<br />

nothing. (B/1152/X)<br />

As far as it goes I am happy with <strong>the</strong> guidance, but reiterate that <strong>the</strong>re must be a<br />

presumpti<strong>on</strong> that paths must be used and that <strong>the</strong>re must be an immediate remedy for<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour. (B/0794/X)<br />

The Code provides adequate guidance and encouragement for acti<strong>on</strong> by land managers<br />

to help people exercise access rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (G/0806/X).<br />

I think that <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> code provides an excellent balance between land managers and<br />

people exercising access rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (W/0334/X)<br />

I feel more emphasis must be placed <strong>on</strong> guidance to land managers to make <strong>the</strong>ir land<br />

more accessible to users. … The Code should lay a greater emphasis <strong>on</strong> land managers<br />

to provide alternative routes where <strong>the</strong>y would prefer that access avoided <strong>the</strong> farmyard.<br />

(A/0477/X)<br />

Yes - though pers<strong>on</strong>ally I believe that emphasis should be <strong>on</strong> preventing managers from<br />

discouraging or obstructing access ra<strong>the</strong>r than necessarily taking active steps to<br />

promote it. (A/0469/X)<br />

Even those land managers sympa<strong>the</strong>tic to open access will require funding e.g. for<br />

stiles, path maintenance, user-friendly gate closures, etc. This might also be a "carrot"<br />

for those who are less sympa<strong>the</strong>tic. (A/1037/X)<br />

At present <strong>the</strong>re is no financial incentive or assistance in maintainance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths or <strong>the</strong><br />

repair <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gates and styles. It all seems very <strong>on</strong>e-sided and c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong>al. (B/0613/X)<br />

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G/0580/X, G/0900/X, G/1057/X/,<br />

J/1203/X, K/0444/X, L/0113/X,<br />

L/0650/X, L/0992/X, M/0101/X,<br />

M/0463/X, P/1060/X, P/1237/X,<br />

P/1247/X, P/0643/X, P/0804/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/1275/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0930/X,<br />

Q/0932/X, V/1285/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1112/X, W/1130/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1342/X, W/0017/X,<br />

W/0034/X, W/0457/X, W/0511/X,<br />

W/0529/X, W/0556/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0708/X/d, W/0789/X,<br />

W/0799/X, W/0977/X/d, W/0986/X,<br />

W/1373/, X/1212/X, X/1298/X,<br />

X/0405/X/d, X/0495/X, X/0543/X,<br />

X/0637/X, X/0937/X, X/0939/X,<br />

X/1385/X.<br />

The point should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> that dealing with access requests, liasing with o<strong>the</strong>r activities,<br />

giving permissi<strong>on</strong>s, etc is very time-c<strong>on</strong>suming in an area which is used heavily for<br />

public access. (B/1309/X)<br />

There is no menti<strong>on</strong> in secti<strong>on</strong> 4 about <strong>the</strong> Local Authority providing assistance to<br />

Landowners, even if it's <strong>on</strong>ly advice. (B/1347/X)<br />

Here more could be said about core paths and <strong>the</strong> role <strong>the</strong>y will play in access<br />

provisi<strong>on</strong>s. (G/1214/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong>s 4.17 and 4.18 are helpful but we believe <strong>the</strong>y could be given more emphasis<br />

and prominence. … This is weak and open to interpretati<strong>on</strong> by a reluctant land manager<br />

as an invitati<strong>on</strong> to generate 'c<strong>on</strong>cerns' founded <strong>on</strong> partial or ill-founded knowledge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

orienteering and its supposed impact <strong>on</strong> land management and envir<strong>on</strong>ment.<br />

(G/0900/X)<br />

It gives some good advice but we would like to see more. Our specific issues include:<br />

Horses and Cyclists. WTS owns and owns and manages more <strong>the</strong>n <strong>on</strong>e site where we<br />

have had to c<strong>on</strong>trol or prevent horse and cycle access because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> unsuitability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

paths to sustain such activity. We would appreciate more guidance <strong>on</strong> this. Health and<br />

Safety. WTS owns and manages two sites where we ei<strong>the</strong>r prevent or do not encourage<br />

access for safety reas<strong>on</strong>s. We would appreciate advice in <strong>the</strong> Code <strong>on</strong> how to address<br />

this. Signage. We would appreciate fuller advice in <strong>the</strong> Code <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signs.<br />

Particularly for forestry operati<strong>on</strong>s, horses, livestock, etc. Liability - We would appreciate<br />

a clearer statement in <strong>the</strong> Code regarding land managers' liability and fur<strong>the</strong>r advice <strong>on</strong><br />

what is reas<strong>on</strong>able behaviour to prevent legal acti<strong>on</strong> being taken by people exercising<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access. (K/0444/X)<br />

...new housing developments … There should be guidelines & specific requirements<br />

pertaining to all block development to ensure routes through <strong>the</strong> building plots or<br />

between <strong>the</strong>m, allowing c<strong>on</strong>tinued access from top to bottom - e.g. every 50, or 100<br />

yards. (L/0992/X)<br />

It might be suggested that more emphasis should be placed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> need for land owners<br />

to be c<strong>on</strong>structive in agreeing designated paths. … It will enable <strong>the</strong> land owners to steer<br />

people away from areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> potential danger, and <strong>the</strong>refore from possible pers<strong>on</strong>al<br />

liability acti<strong>on</strong>s. It will also provide a basis for directing walkers away from sensitive<br />

areas, such as fields where silage is being grown. Clearly designated paths will also<br />

have <strong>the</strong> advantage that <strong>the</strong>y will obviate <strong>the</strong> need for walkers to make complex legal<br />

and technical decisi<strong>on</strong>s for <strong>the</strong>mselves. (M/0101/X)<br />

…<strong>the</strong>re is nothing in <strong>the</strong> Code which requires <strong>the</strong> land manager to acknowledge <strong>the</strong><br />

diversity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people exercising <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access across his/her land (M/0463/X)<br />

One thing that would be very encouraging to landmanagers would be for organisati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

such as SEERAD that provide support for land management activities to ensure that<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir policies are modified to take account <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act. (P/0643/X)<br />

If <strong>the</strong> proposed code were able to be more specific about those aspects which might<br />

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20c. No – <strong>the</strong>re is too<br />

much <strong>on</strong>us placed <strong>on</strong> land<br />

managers to act to enable<br />

access<br />

A/0046/X, A/0163/X, A/0320/X/d,<br />

B/1017/X, B/1216/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/1250/X, B/1341/Z/d, B/0038/X,<br />

B/0051/X, B/0127/X, B/0167/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0377/X, B/0385/X/d,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0465/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0628/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/0935/X, B/0980/X, B/1096/X,<br />

E/1113/X, E/0616/X, F/0360/X,<br />

G/0580/X, H/1222/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0807/X, H/0941/X, J/1058/X,<br />

Q/0091/X, R/1221/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1170/X, W/1189/X, W/1235/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0581/X, W/0618/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0641/X, W/0700/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0812/, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/0950/X/d,<br />

X/0099/X.<br />

give protecti<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> natural and cultural heritage, <strong>the</strong> land managers and all<br />

countryside dwellers, from <strong>the</strong> nebulous wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act, <strong>the</strong>n perhaps land<br />

managers/owners might be encouraged to facilitate access. (Q/0157/X)<br />

Where land managers are developing access routes through <strong>the</strong>ir land (e.g. through or<br />

around farmyards), <strong>the</strong>y should be encouraged to c<strong>on</strong>sider <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> even<br />

surfaces for paths and appropriate widths for paths and gateways so as not to create<br />

barriers for disabled users. (V/1285/X)<br />

...additi<strong>on</strong>al grants must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available (ei<strong>the</strong>r through SEERAD or SNH) to land<br />

managers to enable <strong>the</strong>m to provide adequate access provisi<strong>on</strong>, where c<strong>on</strong>flict occurs or<br />

where a demand can be dem<strong>on</strong>strated, e.g. installati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> stiles, gates, fences, car<br />

parks, picnic areas and footpaths. The rate <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grant should be compatible with <strong>the</strong> 90%<br />

grant rate that can be accessed under <strong>the</strong> new <strong>Scottish</strong> Foretry Grant Scheme for<br />

Woodland Recreati<strong>on</strong>. (X/1298/X)<br />

The Code details <strong>the</strong> obligati<strong>on</strong>s and expectati<strong>on</strong>s placed <strong>on</strong> land managers but fails to<br />

recognise that <strong>the</strong> burden is without any benefit and that at times <strong>the</strong>re will be a cost,<br />

whe<strong>the</strong>r directly, e.g. <strong>the</strong> erecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informati<strong>on</strong> signs, or indirectly, e.g. in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

additi<strong>on</strong>al management time. The Code should highlight what assistance, whe<strong>the</strong>r<br />

physical or financial, will be provided to allow land managers to fulfil <strong>the</strong>ir resp<strong>on</strong>sbilities.<br />

... we do not think that <strong>the</strong> guidance provides sufficient encouragement. (B/1240/X)<br />

Each <strong>on</strong>e metre width al<strong>on</strong>g a margin represents approximately 1% <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our producti<strong>on</strong><br />

area in a bid to maintain <strong>the</strong> viability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our farm. … it is imperative that growing crop<br />

close to a field margin is treated as such and is not allowed to be damaged by access<br />

takers. Again level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> use comes into this, and again <strong>the</strong> code does not make enough<br />

reference to this, al<strong>on</strong>g with prevailing soil/wea<strong>the</strong>r c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s. Wider field margins could<br />

be restricted to strategic points, but should not be expected everywhere. (B/1216/X)<br />

It is emphasised that land managers are expected to help, welcome, advise <strong>the</strong><br />

members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public who wish to use <strong>the</strong>ir land. Bearing in mind that this will most<br />

likely be evenings and weekends how many hours is <strong>the</strong> Governemnt expecting land<br />

managers to work? I am not referring to large estates where staff could be employed<br />

but ra<strong>the</strong>r small farmers like my husband and I who cannot afford to pay some<strong>on</strong>e to<br />

provide this service. (B/1341/Z/d)<br />

No. Land managers have no time to spare to help educate <strong>the</strong> public. (B/0385/X/d)<br />

No. It does <strong>the</strong> opposite. It prescribes more or less what has to be d<strong>on</strong>e by law. Land<br />

managers will now do <strong>the</strong> minimum <strong>the</strong>y feel <strong>the</strong>y can get away with, whereas before<br />

most land managers strove to improve access and were largely sympa<strong>the</strong>tic and helpful<br />

to members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public who wished to enjoy <strong>the</strong>mselves. (B/0406/X)<br />

Having imposed a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access <strong>on</strong> land managers it is a bit much expecting <strong>the</strong>m to<br />

accept as a key resp<strong>on</strong>sibility that <strong>the</strong>y must help people enjoy <strong>the</strong> outdoors resp<strong>on</strong>sibly;<br />

this should be reworded to remind land managers that <strong>the</strong>ir key resp<strong>on</strong>sibility is to avoid<br />

acti<strong>on</strong>s that would deny people <strong>the</strong> opportunity to exercise <strong>the</strong>ir rights. (B/0672/X)<br />

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20d. different acti<strong>on</strong> is<br />

required by land<br />

managers<br />

20e. acti<strong>on</strong> suggested for<br />

land managers requires<br />

clarificati<strong>on</strong><br />

A/1136/X/d, A/0133/X, A/0291/X,<br />

A/0400/X, A/0425/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0478/X/d, A/0500/Y/d,<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0838/X, B/1133/X,<br />

B/1150/X/d, B/0462/X, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0525/X/d, B/0628/X, B/1078/X,<br />

B/0294/X, E/0590/X, F/1134/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1192/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/0441/X, G/0580/X, G/0604/X,<br />

H/1103/X, L/0410/X, L/0650/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0869/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/0686/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/0271/X, W/0335/X, W/0402/X,<br />

W/0566/X, W/0573/X, W/0991/X,<br />

X/1171/X, X/0495/X, X/0639/X.<br />

A/0098/X, A/0253/X/d, A/0740/X,<br />

B/1062/X, B/1078/X, B/1126/X,<br />

B/1183/X, B/1250/X, B/1261/X,<br />

…<strong>the</strong> Code is surely not insisting that every<strong>on</strong>e has to be proactively supporting access?<br />

(F/0360/X)<br />

The guidance seems slightly biased against <strong>the</strong> interest <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers. … It should<br />

be … <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that <strong>the</strong> "extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care owned by a land manager" is not<br />

affected by <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong>. (W/0388/X)<br />

The AC does not give "encouragement" in any way to land managers with regards<br />

making areas safe and excluding <strong>the</strong> general public when land management involves<br />

activities not c<strong>on</strong>ducive with recreati<strong>on</strong>al access. The means to limiting access look very<br />

limited and <strong>the</strong> practical hope <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> enforcing it looks hopeless because <strong>the</strong> methods are<br />

just too l<strong>on</strong>g, time-c<strong>on</strong>suming and burdensome to make it practical. (W/0901/X/d)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re are circumstances where land managers can help dog owners to exercise <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. For example, placing sheep close to lambing, lambs or calves in a<br />

field through which a core path runs, would be unhelpful to to dog owners, especially if<br />

<strong>the</strong>y returning by a different route from that <strong>on</strong> which <strong>the</strong>y had set out. If such a stocking<br />

scenario were unavoidable, <strong>the</strong> land manager could take reas<strong>on</strong>able steps to provide a<br />

suitable diversi<strong>on</strong>ary route for dog owners. (A/0500/Y/d)<br />

Provide <strong>the</strong> public with informati<strong>on</strong> at key access points - <strong>the</strong> public can co-operate with<br />

you <strong>on</strong>ly if <strong>the</strong>y know what you want! (A/0838/X)<br />

If land is excluded from access rights <strong>the</strong> owners <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> that land are entitled to refuse<br />

access if <strong>the</strong>y so wish and 4.19 does not recognise that. (B/1150/X/d)<br />

Land managers should be active in cooperating with <strong>the</strong>ir Local Access Forum to devise<br />

a local access strategy. (B/0462/X)<br />

Cycling and horse riding: as well as identifying paths or routes which are suitable for<br />

cycling or horse-riding, in popular areas it might in some cases be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for land<br />

owners to identify paths which are unsuitable for <strong>the</strong>se activities eg because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> erosi<strong>on</strong><br />

and/or narrowness, and to provide informati<strong>on</strong> about <strong>the</strong>se to potential users, who would<br />

<strong>the</strong>n be able to plan a route which avoided using <strong>the</strong>m. (L/0410/X)<br />

Where <strong>the</strong>re is a perceived problem <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gates being left open if <strong>the</strong>y are not locked <strong>the</strong><br />

land manager should provide alternative access provisi<strong>on</strong> before locking gates<br />

(W/1111/X)<br />

The code having stressed <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access, and <strong>the</strong> illegality <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> locking gates for purely<br />

obstructive reas<strong>on</strong>s, needs to allow <strong>the</strong> land owner <strong>the</strong> right to lock gates resp<strong>on</strong>sibly<br />

and give any<strong>on</strong>e who feels treated unfairly <strong>the</strong> right to complain through <strong>the</strong> Local<br />

Access Forum but not <strong>the</strong> right to force open <strong>the</strong> gate. (W/0566/X)<br />

While <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code refers to <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> landowners and land managers, it<br />

does not refer to <strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong> and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> community groups like ours, who<br />

manage paths <strong>on</strong> a third party's properties. (X/1171/X)<br />

I think this is a major issue, and feel that <strong>the</strong>re is quite an imbalance in your report here.<br />

Recommendati<strong>on</strong>s c<strong>on</strong>cerning dogs bel<strong>on</strong>ging to visitors c<strong>on</strong>sume 2/3 pages, whilst <strong>the</strong><br />

dogs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers 1 line. … Perhaps stating that any dog trained to be aggressive<br />

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standard signage to help<br />

manage access during /<br />

after land management<br />

operati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

B/1288/X, B/1313/X, B/0048/X,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0406/X, B/0461/X,<br />

B/0488/X/d, B/0493/X, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0569/X, B/0574/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

E/1113/X, F/0360/X, G/1044/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1214/X, G/1254/X,<br />

G/0393/X, G/0580/X, H/1118/X,<br />

H/0988/X, L/0439/X, L/0513/X,<br />

M/0463/X, P/1219/X, P/0575/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0640/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0899/X, Q/0016/X, U/1172/X,<br />

V/0245/X, V/0398/X, W/1102/X/d,<br />

W/1123/X, W/1151/X, W/1310/X/d,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0423/X, W/0474/X,<br />

W/0489/X, W/0530/X, W/0579/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0781/X, X/1092/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/1290/X, X/0122/X,<br />

X/0426/X, X/0495/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/1036/X.<br />

A/1194/X, A/0155/X, A/0560/X,<br />

A/0658/X/d, A/0927/X, A/0958/X,<br />

A/0967/X, A/0997/X, B/1150/X/d,<br />

B/1173/X, B/1267/X/d, B/1313/X,<br />

B/1347/X, B/0116/X/d, B/0443/X,<br />

or to ward <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f strangers in a way which would be tantamount to alarming <strong>the</strong> stranger<br />

should be ei<strong>the</strong>r securely tied up, or kept in a secure area when not under supervisi<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(A/0253/X/d)<br />

The Code should omit any suggesti<strong>on</strong> that n<strong>on</strong>-accessible land adjacent to accessible<br />

land should be regarded as accessible; and landowners should be encouraged to<br />

indicate to countryside users where n<strong>on</strong>-accessible land exists, so that users can<br />

exercise resp<strong>on</strong>sibility by avoiding it (B/1078/X).<br />

Managers 'must': visitors 'should' - this is unbalanced and inaccurate. 'Must' ought to be<br />

restricted to a legal requirement. It is not clear what happens when <strong>the</strong> wishful thinking<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 'should' fails. (B/1288/X)<br />

What steps does <strong>the</strong> code require a farmer to take to ensure that <strong>the</strong> public does not<br />

enter a large field, say <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 30-40 acres, which has recently been sprayed with a<br />

substance which may be harmful? Are signs to be erected every 50 yards around <strong>the</strong><br />

edge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> field and will <strong>the</strong>y be required to be removed <strong>on</strong>ce <strong>the</strong> effects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> spray<br />

have g<strong>on</strong>e? (B/0406/X)<br />

The principle must be that <strong>the</strong> more intesively used for commercial purposes <strong>the</strong> land or<br />

water asset is, <strong>the</strong> more c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> and planned access is necessary. (B/0461/X)<br />

It is not clear from <strong>the</strong> Code whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> land manager has a resp<strong>on</strong>sibility to maintain<br />

any paths and accessible areas <strong>on</strong> land which he owns/manages. This is important with<br />

regard to <strong>the</strong> potential for liability claims against <strong>the</strong> landowner. (F/0360/X)<br />

There seemed to us to be a c<strong>on</strong>flict between Secti<strong>on</strong> 3.43 (P.37) … and Secti<strong>on</strong> 4.17<br />

(P.44) … What happenes if, in spite <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> being advised to do so, and in spite <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

c<strong>on</strong>cerns being properly addressed, <strong>the</strong> land managers do not give c<strong>on</strong>sent (or<br />

permiss<strong>on</strong>; <strong>the</strong> same word should really be used in both secti<strong>on</strong>s)? Who would be <strong>the</strong><br />

arbiter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such disputes, and would <strong>the</strong>re be any cost implicati<strong>on</strong>s for ei<strong>the</strong>r party?<br />

(G/0393/X)<br />

The use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> exempti<strong>on</strong>s and exclusi<strong>on</strong>, as well as full guidance <strong>on</strong> managing under <strong>the</strong><br />

new access code, is unclear and will need fur<strong>the</strong>r separate advice to local authorities<br />

and land managers. (P/0575/X)<br />

Do <strong>the</strong> landowners have to install gates or stiles for access from <strong>the</strong> highway into fields<br />

and footbridges over ditches and waterways … Will <strong>the</strong> farmer be allowed to keep his<br />

bulls in <strong>the</strong> field in <strong>the</strong> summer time as is <strong>the</strong> practice in Orkney. (Q/0016/X)<br />

I feel that 4.17 should be expanded to emphasise <strong>the</strong> obligati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> land managers to<br />

facilitate resp<strong>on</strong>sible access for events. Permissi<strong>on</strong> should not be unreas<strong>on</strong>ably<br />

withheld. (W/0781/X)<br />

Signage is going to be increasingly important for both land managers and access takers.<br />

I would suggest that a separate secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> all aspects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signage would be helpful both<br />

to <strong>the</strong> access taker and <strong>the</strong> land manager. (A/0658/X/d)<br />

More detailed guidance <strong>on</strong> signage would be appropriate, particularly in reference to <strong>the</strong><br />

nature and extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land management activities affecting access, and c<strong>on</strong>tact details for<br />

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B/0462/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0470/X,<br />

B/0488/X/d, B/0505/X, B/0613/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, B/0733/X, B/0764/X,<br />

B/0879/X, B/0935/X, B/1072/X,<br />

E/0208/X, E/0616/X, G/1099/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/1291/X, G/1307/X,<br />

G/0580/X, G/0604/X, G/0831/X,<br />

H/0534/X, H/0808/X, H/0808/X,<br />

H/1042/X, J/1203/X, K/1241/X,<br />

K/0444/X, L/0513/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1237/X, P/0287/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/0575/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0869/X, P/0928/X,<br />

R/1256/X, V/1285/X, V/0245/X,<br />

W/1109/X, W/1220/X, W/1287/X,<br />

W/1329/X, W/1342/X, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0124/X, W/0335/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0675/X, W/0700/X, W/0702/Y,<br />

W/0709/X/d, X/1212/X, X/1298/X,<br />

X/0122/X, X/0784/X.<br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager. (A/0958/X)<br />

The design <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signs should not be left to individual owners <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> property. They should be<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficial and publicised and I believe that <strong>the</strong>y would be indispensable in any attempt to<br />

clarify where access is not available. I do not wish to erect signs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my own design, <strong>on</strong>ly<br />

to have <strong>the</strong>m torn down by people who believe that <strong>the</strong>y are not legal. ... Some means<br />

must be available to a landowner to dem<strong>on</strong>state where access is not available. A<br />

suitable sign should suffice. (B/0116/X/d)<br />

Landowners and land managers should work with SNH, local authorities and<br />

Government Departments for good quality nati<strong>on</strong>ally accepted standard signage for<br />

farmyards and work sites, e.g. sawmills etc. The signage is imperative for health and<br />

safety as well as liability. This will have to be redressed by <strong>the</strong> Government. ... There<br />

must be an accepted form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> standardised signage that all land managers and<br />

authorities such as SNH and local councils can use which will alleviate any safety<br />

problems or areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>flict. (B/1267/X/d)<br />

...landowners should make much more readily available <strong>the</strong>ir c<strong>on</strong>tact informati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Prominent signposting at comm<strong>on</strong> access points to a property giving teleph<strong>on</strong>e numbers<br />

and instructi<strong>on</strong>s would be helpful and should be encouraged. .. Perhaps a standard<br />

notice board could be designed to be used countrywide and which visitors could<br />

recognise easily. (B/0488/X/d)<br />

A nati<strong>on</strong>al standard to any signage wouold be welcomed and it would be important that<br />

such signs have full details <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>m, e.g. start and finish dates, nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> work,<br />

alternative route(s), c<strong>on</strong>tact numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible pers<strong>on</strong> to enable fur<strong>the</strong>r informati<strong>on</strong><br />

to be obtained etc. (P/0287/X)<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signs should c<strong>on</strong>tain <strong>the</strong> following informati<strong>on</strong>: *What is happening *By<br />

whom <strong>on</strong> behalf <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> which owners/managers *When it will start and finish *Alternative<br />

routes *Name and c<strong>on</strong>tact number for fur<strong>the</strong>r informati<strong>on</strong> *If a secti<strong>on</strong> 11 order, <strong>the</strong><br />

name <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> authorising pers<strong>on</strong> within <strong>the</strong> Local Authority. (P/1218/X)<br />

Para 4.6, Bullet 9 - <strong>the</strong>re may be a need to deter public away from particular areas, e.g.<br />

muddy paths, breeding bird sites or rare plants. Again <strong>the</strong> best way to achieve this<br />

would be to have standard nati<strong>on</strong>al signs with an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficial corporate appearance which<br />

people would respect. These would be available from Access Forum, local authorities or<br />

Rangers Service. Bullet 10 - again <strong>the</strong>re seems to be an overall c<strong>on</strong>sensus that land<br />

managers requiring advice should c<strong>on</strong>sult <strong>the</strong>ir local Access Forum or <strong>the</strong> Countryside<br />

Ranger service. (P/1273/X)<br />

...some c<strong>on</strong>cerns about <strong>the</strong> potential proliferati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> unnecessary and inappropriate<br />

signs if <strong>the</strong> implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> new access code is not managed carefully.<br />

(R/1256/X)<br />

Would not <strong>the</strong> quickest way to inform and educate people re. Use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Access Rights in a<br />

Trouble-free way be <strong>the</strong> drawing up <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> symbols. … Inexpensive notices bearing<br />

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20g. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0290/X, A/0825/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/1323/X, B/0272/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0347/X, B/0371/X, B/0755/X,<br />

B/0772/X, B/0798/X, B/0816/X,<br />

B/0819/X, B/0879/X, B/0909/X,<br />

D/0248/X, E/1038/X, E/0703/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1291/X, G/0132/X,<br />

G/0604/X, G/0698/X, G/0831/X,<br />

G/1098/X, H/0310/X, H/0370/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0808/X, K/0722/X,<br />

L/0504/X, P/0384/X, P/0928/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/1286/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

Q/0364/X, T/0911/X, V/0398/X,<br />

W/1032/X, W/1264/X, W/0071/X,<br />

W/0100//d, W/0679/X, W/0702/Y,<br />

W/0944/X, X/0099/X, X/0784/X.<br />

<strong>the</strong>se symbols could be distributed to land managers through <strong>the</strong>ir lead organisati<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

(W/0335/X)<br />

Sec<strong>on</strong>dly, <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> standard discreet movable signs may help land manager and<br />

user alike. Clip-<strong>on</strong> signs could become part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> standard arsenal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a land manager,<br />

putting <strong>the</strong>m <strong>on</strong> field gates, eg where silage grass is high, after spraying, or where a bull<br />

is in residence. I do not want <strong>the</strong> countryside littered with new signs, but I think that<br />

small symbolic signs would be useful. (W/0702/Y)<br />

With good management <strong>the</strong> public can in general be guided al<strong>on</strong>g acceptable paths.<br />

The few who wish to wander <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> beaten track have not caused problems in <strong>the</strong> past.<br />

(B/1187/X)<br />

would not regard <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wider access before <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> additi<strong>on</strong>al<br />

rangering … and assurance that Strathclyde Police has in place <strong>the</strong> necessary additi<strong>on</strong>al<br />

resources to resp<strong>on</strong>d to incidents involving irresp<strong>on</strong>sible access. We would also<br />

welcome closer involvement from Glasgow City Council and <strong>the</strong> Local Access Forum in<br />

assisting to deal with issues arisiing from access. (B/1323/X)<br />

You cannot always have multiple use and <strong>the</strong> principle should be incorporated into <strong>the</strong><br />

Code whereby areas that are managed for wildlife should not be subject to<br />

disturbing/damaging recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities (even including walkers during certain times<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year) (W/0816/X).<br />

Good communicati<strong>on</strong> and relati<strong>on</strong>s between land managers and local authority will help<br />

to allay fears. (G/132/X)<br />

Page 44 - 4.17 Not sure how this would be delivered with respect to riparian intersts.<br />

Many do not live locally nor indeed in <strong>the</strong> country. (T/0911/X)<br />

No amount <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> encouragement, o<strong>the</strong>r than financial, will alleviate <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cerns am<strong>on</strong>g<br />

land managers that <strong>the</strong>y are likely to have to bear significant costs to achieve <strong>the</strong> aims <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Code. (X/0784/X)<br />

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Summary –<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

There was a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comment, from a variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dent types, <strong>on</strong> whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code provides sufficient encouragement and guidance for acti<strong>on</strong><br />

by land managers to help people exercise access rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Comments by resp<strong>on</strong>dents included:<br />

• <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code places too str<strong>on</strong>g an <strong>on</strong>us in encouraging land managers to take positive steps to facilitate and provide for access and fails to<br />

recognise <strong>the</strong> time and resources needed to take acti<strong>on</strong> bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong> minimum required to meet <strong>the</strong> obligati<strong>on</strong>s set out in <strong>the</strong> Act;<br />

• clarificati<strong>on</strong> was sought <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> text relating to land outwith access rights and what was meant by “c<strong>on</strong>tiguous land or water”;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need to streamline funding available for access work from public agencies;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> good signage, with standard wording, as an important way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> supporting land mangers to provide helpful advice to users;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need for greater encouragement for land managers to use paths as a mechanism to manage access over <strong>the</strong>ir land;<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need to accommodate land managers’ views in <strong>the</strong> planning, provisi<strong>on</strong> and management <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access, particularly core paths; and<br />

• <strong>the</strong> need to give greater recogniti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local authorities and local access forums in managing access issues, and to acknowledge <strong>the</strong><br />

benefits <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> encouraging land manager involvement.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

Changes to this secti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code emphasise a more participative and supportive role for <strong>the</strong> land manager in working with <strong>the</strong> local authority<br />

to facilitate and manage access <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir land. The Proposed Code qualifies <strong>the</strong> encouragement for land managers to take positive steps by saying that<br />

<strong>the</strong>y should do this “where possible”. The Proposed code also includes a short secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> owners <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>tiguous land. In doing this,<br />

<strong>the</strong> Proposed Code highlights that l<strong>on</strong>gstanding access has occurred over many areas and encourages land managers to respect this, even though it is<br />

outwith <strong>the</strong> new statutory rights.<br />

The Proposed Code also makes str<strong>on</strong>ger links to <strong>the</strong> role and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local authorities in planning and managing access, and it outlines <strong>the</strong> ways<br />

in which land managers can assist <strong>the</strong> local authority, to <strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both users and <strong>the</strong>mselves. Greater emphasis has also been placed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

paths in helping to facilitate and manage for access and <strong>the</strong> benefits for land managers in helping identify routes which would bring benefit to users and<br />

land managers.<br />

SNH accepts <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> issues raised <strong>on</strong> funding. Although <strong>the</strong>y are bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong> scope <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code, it is recognised that <strong>the</strong>y need to<br />

be taken into c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> wider implementati<strong>on</strong> programme to support access rights.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 21 - Do you think that secti<strong>on</strong> 5 provides clear , sensible, practical guidance to those<br />

excercising access rights and to land managers? If you think it could be improved<br />

please tell us in what way.<br />

For selected quotati<strong>on</strong>s from <strong>the</strong> detailed comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in resp<strong>on</strong>se to Questi<strong>on</strong> 21 - see end <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

this report<br />

170<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> General<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Detailed<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – General Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

21a. Yes A/0009/X, A/0346/X, A/0163/X,<br />

A/0518/X, A/0442/X, A/0958/X,<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/0469/X, A/0477/X,<br />

B/0028/X, B/0385/X/d, B/0300/X/d,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0668/X, B/0247/X,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0512/X/d, B/1250/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/0826/X/d, B/1152/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0613/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0470/X, B/0755/X, B/0772/X,<br />

B/1114/X/d, D/0022/X, E/1246/Y,<br />

E/0590/X, E/0516/X, E/0703/X,<br />

G/0114/X, G/0082/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/1214/X, G/1254/X, G/0806/X,<br />

G/0960/X, G/1098/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/0785/X, H/1348/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/0941/X, K/1241/X,<br />

K/0714/X, K/0722/X, L/0444/X,<br />

L/0439/X, M/1043/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0491/X, P/0384/X/d,<br />

P/0548/X, P/1219/X, P/1237/X,<br />

P/1239/X, P/1272/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0869/X, P/0576/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0717/X, P/0889/X, Q/0264/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/0893/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

Q/0686/X, R/1221/X, R/0868/X,<br />

U/0922/X, V/0207/X, W/0056/X,<br />

W/0143/X, W/0388/X, W/0391/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0644/X, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0194/X, W/0511/X, W/1007/X,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1287/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/1151/X, W/0972/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0589/X, W/0221/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0780/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1130/X, W/1367/,<br />

195<br />

2,254<br />

This is a useful summary , which might be read by those who do not read <strong>the</strong> code fully<br />

(A/0985/X)<br />

In particular, Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 seems to provide a comprehensive cover <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> practical and helpful<br />

guidance <strong>on</strong> access rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities. (B/0247/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 provides clear guidance to those excercising access rights and to land<br />

mangers. We think it is particularly helpful to have <strong>the</strong> rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both<br />

shown side by side. (G/0806/X)<br />

I agree that it is a useful starting point, as l<strong>on</strong>g as it is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that this is what it is - a<br />

starting point and not a definitive list-particularly if abstracted from for derivative<br />

documents (G/0960/X)<br />

The format is a much more user-friendly approach for <strong>the</strong> Code and indeed is a good<br />

starter point for <strong>the</strong> special interest codes (which should be referred to in <strong>the</strong> appropriate<br />

locati<strong>on</strong>s)…… The "practical guide" may well be <strong>the</strong> first thing users go to so it should<br />

reiterate that certain areas and facilities have local byelaws and management rules<br />

which must be adherred to. It should be a summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what has g<strong>on</strong>e before and should<br />

not introduce new ideas or c<strong>on</strong>cepts. (X/0939/X)


W/1373/d, X/0811/X, X/0939/X,<br />

X/1092/X.<br />

21b. No A/0658/X/d, A/0319/X, B/0167/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0859/X, B/0599/X/d,<br />

B/0225/X, E/0924/X, G/1291/X,<br />

H/0310/X, H/0615/X, P/0287/X,<br />

Q/0445/X, V/0975/X, W/0273/X,<br />

W/1032/X, W/0457/X, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/1112/X, X/1188/X.<br />

21c. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0362/X, B/0347/X, B/1240/X,<br />

B/0594/X, D/0093/X, G/0379/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1291/X, G/0900/X,<br />

H/0154/X, H/0808/X, H/0916/X,<br />

H/0220/X, J/0023/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/0274/X, Q/0697/X/d, Q/0707/X,<br />

V/0398/X, W/0021/X, W/0214/X,<br />

W/0901/X/d, X/1339/X, E/0616/X,<br />

A/0740/X, B/0054/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/0816/X, B/0879/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0594/X, B/0404/X,<br />

B/1267/X/d, E/0616/X, G/0920/Y,<br />

G/0604/X, H/1103/X, H/0460/X,<br />

H/0515/X, L/0865/X, M/0463/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0899/X, P/1066/X,<br />

P/0492/X, P/0491/X, Q/0856/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/1178/X, Q/1122/X,<br />

R/1221/X, U/1172/X, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0108/X, W/1342/X, W/1310/X,<br />

W/1153/Z/d, W/0947/X/d,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0423/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, X/0664/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0896/X, X/1067/X, X/0495/X.<br />

Some clearer cross-referencing between secti<strong>on</strong>s 1 to 4 and in secti<strong>on</strong> 5 would help<br />

when referring between introductory guidance and <strong>the</strong> summaries. (P/1219/X)<br />

'Following such advice can greatly help to reduce <strong>the</strong> risks to safety' provides no firm<br />

directi<strong>on</strong>. It should simply say,'It is resp<strong>on</strong>sible to follow such advice'. This approach<br />

should be taken throughout <strong>the</strong> document - to provide clarity. (H/1103/X)<br />

I found this secti<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>fusing , I suggest that <strong>the</strong> examples be combined with <strong>the</strong><br />

relevant secti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> main text. This would avoid some repetiti<strong>on</strong>. (W/1032/X)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong>s…where statutory rights do not apply(or may not apply)should be re-written<br />

to make it clear that access is currently taken in <strong>the</strong>se places under existing customary<br />

freedoms, and should be expected to c<strong>on</strong>tinue as l<strong>on</strong>g as it is taken resp<strong>on</strong>sibly.<br />

(G/1099/X)<br />

It would be sensible to have a matrix structure or simply three separate lists with access<br />

being <strong>on</strong> foot, <strong>on</strong> horse or bicycle. (W/0901/X/d)<br />

The absence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any referrence to or example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disability issues is a missed opportunity<br />

to reflect <strong>the</strong> intenti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament in specifically including provisi<strong>on</strong>s for<br />

disabled people. (M/0463/X)<br />

This should be backed up with a new table in secti<strong>on</strong> 5 specifically covering commercial<br />

activity. (P/0492/X)<br />

In additi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> need to avoid damage, users should be instructed to attempt to repair<br />

any damage accidentally caused. If this proves not to be possible <strong>the</strong>n to report <strong>the</strong><br />

damage to <strong>the</strong> land manager in order to be seen to be acting resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (Q/1122/X)<br />

…it assumes a knowledge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> countryside and farming practices that is unlikely to be<br />

part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> 'average pers<strong>on</strong>s' experience today. (H/0460/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> is well laid out and very quick and clear to read. The columns should be<br />

headed <strong>on</strong> each page instead <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> just <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> first page. Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 needs to be checked for<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sistency with secti<strong>on</strong>s 3 and 4. This secti<strong>on</strong> needs to decide if it is to be a summary<br />

or a detailed expansi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> secti<strong>on</strong> 3 and 4. At present it <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fers expanded detail<br />

instead (e.g. low ground shooting (pg 50)....Earlier comments <strong>on</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> 3 and 4 are not<br />

repeated here but should be carried across to secti<strong>on</strong> 5 where appropriate. (P/0899/X)<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong><br />

22. - Do you think that secti<strong>on</strong> 5 provides clear , sensible, practical guidance to<br />

those excercising access rights and to land managers? If you think it could be<br />

improved please tell us in what way.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

630<br />

For selected quotati<strong>on</strong>s from <strong>the</strong> detailed comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in resp<strong>on</strong>se to Questi<strong>on</strong> 22 - see end <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this report<br />

Summary – Questi<strong>on</strong>s 21 & 22<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

The vast majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> supported <strong>the</strong> inclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 and felt that it provided clear, sensible and practicable guidance to those<br />

exercising access rights and to land managers. At <strong>the</strong> same time, many <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> outlined a large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> additi<strong>on</strong>al examples for inclusi<strong>on</strong>, albeit<br />

that <strong>the</strong>y also accepted that this Secti<strong>on</strong> could not be an exhaustive list.<br />

A few resp<strong>on</strong>dents felt that this Secti<strong>on</strong> was vague and <strong>the</strong>refore not particularly helpful.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

The main land uses where fur<strong>the</strong>r advice was sought were in relati<strong>on</strong> to:<br />

• golf courses<br />

• field margins<br />

• fields being ploughed<br />

• fields with calves/lambs<br />

• fields with livestock<br />

• gates & fences<br />

The main recreati<strong>on</strong>al uses where fur<strong>the</strong>r advice was sought were:<br />

• horse riding<br />

• wild camping<br />

• cycling<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

The Proposed Code has a substantially amended Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 in order to reflect many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> and provide fur<strong>the</strong>r advice <strong>on</strong> every day<br />

situati<strong>on</strong>s. Key additi<strong>on</strong>al topics included in this part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code are for fires, litter, pers<strong>on</strong>al hygiene, car parking, dogs, houses and privacy and<br />

access by people with disabilities.<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 23 - Do you find <strong>the</strong> advice in Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 useful? Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

170<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

23a. Yes A/0009/X, A/0518/X, A/0437/X,<br />

A/0821/X/d, A/0469/X, B/0565/X,<br />

B/0772/X, B/1114/X/d, D/0022/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/1246/Y, E/0590/X,<br />

E/0703/X, G/0043/X, G/0379/X,<br />

G/0082/X, G/0189/X, G/0806/X,<br />

G/0960/X, G/0973/X, G/0698/X,<br />

G/0785/X, H/0808/X, K/0714/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0646/X, P/0384/X/d,<br />

P/1218/X, P/1247/X, P/0287/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/0804/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0576/X, P/0577/X, P/0889/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/0445/X, Q/1275/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/0526/X, Q/0697/X/d,<br />

R/1221/X, V/0207/X, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0017/X, W/0021/X, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0391/X, W/0625/X,<br />

W/0644/X, W/0100/d, W/0095/X,<br />

W/0182/X, W/0194/X, W/0853/X,<br />

W/1007/X, W/1227/X/d, W/1287/X,<br />

W/0112/X, W/0972/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0789/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1367/, W/1373/, W/1377//d,<br />

X/1385/X, X/1174/X.<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> represents a balanced attempt at defining and dealing with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour. However, ultimately, success will depend <strong>on</strong> good will and courtesy - as it<br />

does at <strong>the</strong> moment. (E/1246/Y)<br />

The advice given and, in particular, <strong>the</strong> "at a glance" page is very useful. The step-bystep<br />

procedure for dealing with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour and <strong>the</strong> outline <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> duties and<br />

powers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local authorities are particularly helpful. (P/0804/X)<br />

The 'at a glance' page is useful for <strong>the</strong> Council and o<strong>the</strong>r agencies, recreati<strong>on</strong>al and land<br />

management interests (W/1287/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code deals with <strong>the</strong> subject adequately (W/0359/X)<br />

23b. No A/0098/X, B/0371/X, B/0525/X/d,<br />

B/0879/X, B/0466/X/d, B/0783/X/d,<br />

G/1098/X, H/0310/X, K/1241/X,<br />

M/0463/X, P/0717/X, Q/0264/X,<br />

Q/1346/X, V/0398/X, W/0056/X,<br />

W/1329/X, W/0812/, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0735/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0780/X, W/1112/X,<br />

X/1188/X.<br />

Overall secti<strong>on</strong> 6 is <strong>the</strong> weakest in <strong>the</strong> Code. Previous versi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code included<br />

more detail <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what <strong>the</strong> local authority's role would be and this should be covered in<br />

more detail again , so that those exercising access rights and land managers have a<br />

clear idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what <strong>the</strong>y expect local authorities to do. (K/1241/X)<br />

There is nothing in secti<strong>on</strong> 6 for disabled people. There is not even a menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Act's requirements for local authorities have regard for <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled people<br />

(M/0463/X)<br />

This advice is felt to be weak and assumes that <strong>the</strong> land manager is correct in his<br />

judgement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some<strong>on</strong>e taking <strong>the</strong>ir access rights irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly (W/1329/X)<br />

The advice is useful but mostly unworkable, it appears to be very <strong>on</strong>e sided in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access users. Most access users know <strong>the</strong>ir rights but may not understand <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities (Q/1346/X)<br />

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23c. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0098/X, A/0319/X, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0098/X, A/0320/X/d, A/0442/X,<br />

A/0958/X, A/1037/X, B/1295/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/1267/X/d, B/0028/X,<br />

B/0167/X, B/0668/X, B/0446/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/0819/X, B/1094/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0738/X, E/1074/X,<br />

G/1291/X, G/1214/X, G/0917/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/0759/X, G/1057/X,<br />

G/1251/X, H/0310/X, H/0220/X,<br />

J/1284/X, K/0444/X, K/1302/X,<br />

K/1241/X, L/1055/X, L/0439/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/1273/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/0928/X, P/1066/X, P/0316/X,<br />

Q/1122/X, Q/0232/X, Q/0686/X,<br />

Q/0707/X, Q/0790/X, R/1278/X,<br />

R/0868/X, T/0911/X, W/0063/X,<br />

W/1189/X, W/1016/X, W/1032/X,<br />

W/0457/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/0901/X/d, W/1170/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0700/X, W/0770/X/d,<br />

W/1149/X, W/1130/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/0246/X, X/1353/X, X/1290/X,<br />

X/0099/X, X/0937/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/0727/X, , X/0727/X.<br />

Point 1 <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> 'At a glance' page should menti<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>tacting relevant Ranger Services to<br />

help resolve access issues. (B/1295/X)<br />

If an individual gives up <strong>the</strong>ir access right under <strong>the</strong> Act, <strong>the</strong> code should clarify how l<strong>on</strong>g<br />

that is for . Is it all access rights or <strong>on</strong>ly at that locati<strong>on</strong> (E/1074/X)<br />

This does not go far enough. It would be helpful to specify which departments or <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers<br />

in a local authority should be approached for help and informati<strong>on</strong>. The role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers and local access forums could be expanded c<strong>on</strong>siderably (G/0759/X)<br />

In paragraph 6.8, <strong>the</strong> last bullet point actually c<strong>on</strong>tains a lot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> important issues that<br />

should be included in this list. For example, <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> benefits <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> new system…. Is<br />

that local authorities will be empowered to resolve access disputes throughout <strong>the</strong>ir area<br />

and not just <strong>on</strong> ROW. Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 appears to be <strong>the</strong> logical place to describe <strong>the</strong> existing<br />

means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dealing with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible and criminal behaviour <strong>on</strong> land (G/1099/X)<br />

Yes, but we feel that this secti<strong>on</strong> does not go quite far enough. It should also point out<br />

that unless a pers<strong>on</strong> is behaving resp<strong>on</strong>sibly, <strong>the</strong>y have not access rights under <strong>the</strong><br />

Land Reform (Scotland) Act. (J/1284/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> code should specify to readers that SNH has a power under s29 , to erect advisory<br />

signs in relati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> natural heritage, and that ignoring such advice would be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sidered irresp<strong>on</strong>sible [S2].At present this is not menti<strong>on</strong>ed at all in <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

(K/1302/X)<br />

In dealing with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour; every<strong>on</strong>e will look to <strong>the</strong> local authority. This<br />

puts countryside rangers in a c<strong>on</strong>cerning positi<strong>on</strong>. Procedures need to be set out to deal<br />

with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour. What will be <strong>the</strong> role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Countryside Ranger?<br />

(X/1067/X)<br />

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Questi<strong>on</strong> 24 - Is <strong>the</strong> guidance for dealing with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour sensible and realistic?<br />

If not, please say why<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

24a. Yes A/0518/X, A/0469/X, B/0565/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/0590/X, G/0189/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0960/X, G/0785/X,<br />

K/0714/X, L/0439/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/0577/X, Q/0445/X,<br />

Q/0526/X, W/0021/X, W/0359/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0391/X, W/0100/d,<br />

W/0194/X, W/1007/X, W/0112/X,<br />

W/1052/X/d, W/0589/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0789/X, W/1130/X.<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Yes - though it may be useful to menti<strong>on</strong> to both <strong>the</strong> public and managers that if an<br />

individual persistently breaches <strong>the</strong> code an interdict may be sought against that pers<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(A/0469/X)<br />

The step by step process outlined for land managers to follow when dealing with<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour will be useful. (P/0577/X)<br />

6. This is a balanced attempt at defining and dealing with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour.<br />

Ultimately its success depends <strong>on</strong> good will, natural courtesy and good manners.<br />

(W/0589/X)<br />

547<br />

24b. No A/0009/X, A/0098/X, A/0871/X,<br />

A/0927/X, B/0028/X, B/0152/X,<br />

B/0375/X, B/0184/X, B/0167/X,<br />

B/0254/X, B/1306/X/d, B/1309/X,<br />

B/0834/X, B/0599/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

D/1340/X, G/0043/X, G/0379/X,<br />

G/1099/X, G/1307/X, H/0220/X,<br />

K/0444/X, K/1241/X, L/0992/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0643/X, P/0287/X,<br />

P/1304/X, P/1219/X, Q/0264/X,<br />

Q/0232/X, U/0363/X, W/0619/X,<br />

W/0173/X, W/1018/X, W/1024/X,<br />

W/0817/X, W/0579/X, W/0235/X,<br />

W/1367/ , X/0099/X, X/0727/X.<br />

6.3 This does not cover <strong>the</strong> likely situati<strong>on</strong> where parties disagree about whe<strong>the</strong>r<br />

behaviour is resp<strong>on</strong>sible or not; a discussi<strong>on</strong> about acti<strong>on</strong>s taken or desired is not<br />

recommended. This paragraph assumes that <strong>the</strong> land manager correctly assessed that<br />

some<strong>on</strong>e has behaved irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly, yet this may not be <strong>the</strong> case.(A/0927/X)<br />

Help is not at hand in rural areas ( B/0028/X)<br />

I have no doubt that this procedure is set out with <strong>the</strong> best <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> intenti<strong>on</strong>s, but it is very<br />

unlikely that any<strong>on</strong>e will take it seriously. In reality <strong>the</strong> Act <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fers no practicable way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

dealing with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour and it would be more h<strong>on</strong>est and better if <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

were simply silent <strong>on</strong> this point. (B/0375/X)<br />

Dispute Resoluti<strong>on</strong>- The code is 'idealistic'. Disputes will be difficult/costly to resolve.<br />

'Damage' may have been d<strong>on</strong>e for some time before being noticed. Difficult to identify<br />

culprits or corroborate evidence (H/0220/X)<br />

Sensible and accurate guidance from <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive to guide access Authorities<br />

in establishing procedures to deal with irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is essential. The<br />

statement (6.3) that encourages land owners to c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>the</strong> access Authority if a pers<strong>on</strong><br />

is acting irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly and will not leave <strong>the</strong> land is unrealistic. The LL & TT Nati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

Park Authority for example, has insufficient resources to resp<strong>on</strong>d quickly and no powers<br />

to remove people from <strong>the</strong> land. In fact, <strong>the</strong> landowner <strong>the</strong>mselves have a greater power<br />

against repeat <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fenders through seeking an interdict. Our c<strong>on</strong>cern is that <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

raises false expectati<strong>on</strong>s with <strong>the</strong> land manager, that <strong>the</strong> Access Authority will deal with<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour, when involving <strong>the</strong> police is really <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly means possible.<br />

(P/1219/X)<br />

In Secti<strong>on</strong> 6, where a land manager can seemingly decide with automatic correctness<br />

whe<strong>the</strong>r behaviour has been irresp<strong>on</strong>sible; and thus imply <strong>the</strong> access right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any<strong>on</strong>e<br />

committing such behaviour is void. (W/1018/X)<br />

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24c. Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 shows that<br />

<strong>the</strong>re are no adequate<br />

means to act against<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by<br />

users<br />

A/0719/X/d, A/0786/X/d,<br />

A/0796/X/d, B/0025/X, B/0038/X,<br />

B/0068/X, B/0042/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0058/X, B/0347/X,<br />

B/0620/Y, B/0631/X, B/0633/X,<br />

B/0638/X/d, B/0645/X, B/0648/X,<br />

B/0654/X, B/0085/X, B/0183/X,<br />

B/0525/X/d, B/0270/X, B/0272/X,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0858/X, B/0863/X,<br />

B/1181/X, B/1190/X, B/1199/X,<br />

B/1200/X, B/0558/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/1015/X, B/1017/X, B/1019/X,<br />

B/1030/X, B/0215/X, B/1306/X/d,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0446/X, B/0982/X,<br />

B/1207/X, B/1208/X, B/1210/X,<br />

B/1250/X, B/1269/X, B/1281/X,<br />

B/1288/X, B/1240/X, B/0801/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0834/X, B/0879/X,<br />

B/0884/X, B/0895/X, B/0913/X,<br />

B/0925/X, B/0929/X, B/1152/X,<br />

B/1164/X, B/1173/X, B/1176/X,<br />

B/0983/X, B/0995/X, B/0996/X,<br />

B/1004/X, B/0935/X, B/0938/X/d,<br />

B/0942/X/d, B/0945/X, B/0964/X,<br />

B/0970/X, B/1062/X, B/1063/X,<br />

B/1072/X, B/1104/X, B/1125/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0613/X, B/0049/X,<br />

B/0123/X, B/0420/X/d, B/0436/X,<br />

B/0510/X, B/0506/X, B/0506/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0404/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

B/0467/X, B/0476/X, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0481/X, B/0473/X/d,<br />

B/0681/X, B/0695/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/0754/X, B/0755/X, B/0760/X,<br />

B/0761/X, B/0783/X/d, B/0787/X/d,<br />

B/0798/X, B/1047/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1033/X, B/1142/X, B/1108/X,<br />

B/1117/X, B/1365/X, B/1375/,<br />

C/0070/X, D/0550/X, E/0616/X,<br />

E/0523/X, E/1243/X, E/1246/Y,<br />

For people wanting to report <strong>the</strong> acti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a land manager <strong>the</strong> questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> identificati<strong>on</strong><br />

is relatively easy, given <strong>the</strong> registrati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ownership. For land managers wishing to<br />

protect <strong>the</strong>mselves against unreas<strong>on</strong>able behaviour it will be virtually impossible to<br />

identify <strong>the</strong> culprits (B/1306/X/d)<br />

The farmer will seldom be able to identify <strong>the</strong> culprits and thus no means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> redress, so<br />

will be left to bear <strong>the</strong> costs (B/1207/X)<br />

<strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> has provided no remedies for land mangers who find people acting<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly. Relying <strong>on</strong> Court acti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> interdict or expecting support from <strong>the</strong><br />

overstretched Police force is quite insufficient. (B/0480/X)<br />

The sancti<strong>on</strong>s against walkers / riders is very unclear. They need to be thought out,<br />

clarified and included in both <strong>the</strong> Act (as an amendment) and within <strong>the</strong> Code (B/1049/X)<br />

From past experience it is extremely difficult to deal with such (irresp<strong>on</strong>sible) behaviour<br />

and this should be noted since <strong>the</strong> Police are fully stretched and have no wish to be<br />

involved. People can become quite violent and put <strong>the</strong> farmer at physical risk.<br />

(B/1047/X)<br />

What does giving up access rights really mean? (E/1246/X)<br />

It is not clear to me that <strong>the</strong> code and/or legislati<strong>on</strong> provides enough defence for land<br />

managers against <strong>the</strong> irresp<strong>on</strong>sible acti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> idiot brigade. (G/0960/X)<br />

In Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 <strong>the</strong>re was recogniti<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong> local authority would be unable to resp<strong>on</strong>d to<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour, to assist land managers, and <strong>the</strong>refore paragraph 6.3 provided<br />

a support mechanism which did not reflect <strong>the</strong> true positi<strong>on</strong>. (P/0115/ X)<br />

Many land managers would feel intimidated by some people acting irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly,<br />

particularly in groups (X/0405/x/d)<br />

The code seems to leave landowners with no practical sancti<strong>on</strong>s against unreas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

behaviour, especially in <strong>the</strong> short term. This could be a big problem in areas near to<br />

towns (W/0979/X)<br />

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E/1257/X, E/0877/X, E/0921/X,<br />

E/0923/X, E/0924/X, E/0516/X,<br />

E/0703/X, E/1113/X, F/0748/X,<br />

G/1192/X, G/0960/X, G/0973/X,<br />

G/0736/X/d, H/1196/X, H/0674/X,<br />

H/1348/X, H/1103/X, H/0807/X,<br />

H/0916/X, H/1179/X, H/0988/X,<br />

H/0941/X, H/0959/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0460/X, J/1058/X,<br />

L/0513/X, L/0865/X, M/1327/X,<br />

N/1187/X, N/0773/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0115/, P/1300/X, P/0890/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0577/X, P/0717/X,<br />

Q/0024/X, Q/0501/X, Q/1312/X,<br />

Q/1232/X, Q/1275/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

Q/1178/X, Q/1122/X, Q/0707/X,<br />

R/0059/X, V/0398/X, W/0003/X,<br />

W/0056/X, W/0632/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0649/X, W/0108/X, W/0084/X,<br />

W/0511/X, W/0276/X, W/0277/X,<br />

W/0278/X, W/0296/X, W/0321/X,<br />

W/0337/X, W/0541/X, W/0556/X,<br />

W/0566/X, W/0669/X/d, W/0255/X,<br />

W/0212/X, W/1316/, W/0457/X,<br />

W/0979/X, W/1224/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1287/X, W/0242/X, W/0986/X,<br />

W/0990/X/d, W/1235/X, W/0812/Y,<br />

W/0817/X, W/0822/X, W/0880/X/d,<br />

W/0907/X, W/1151/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1162/X, W/0999/X, W/0955/X,<br />

W/0963/X, W/1102/X/d, W/1119/X,<br />

W/1123/X, W/0581/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0612/X, W/0124/X, W/0417/X,<br />

W/0435/X, W/0708/X/d,<br />

W/0709/X/d, W/0735/X, W/0779/X,<br />

W/1110/X, W/1111/X, W/1112/X,<br />

W/1112/X, X/0543/X, X/0664/X,<br />

X/0099/X, X/0888/X, X/1174/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0426/X, X/0405/X/d,<br />

X/1115/X, X/1380/ .<br />

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24d. Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 shows that<br />

<strong>the</strong>re are no adequate<br />

means to act against<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by<br />

land managers<br />

24e. local authorities<br />

need greater resources to<br />

be able to fulfil <strong>the</strong>ir duties<br />

and powers<br />

A/0009/X, A/0046/X, A/0500/Y/d,<br />

A/0319/X, A/0537/X, A/0666/X,<br />

A/0442/X, A/0821/X/d, A/0740/X,<br />

A/0743/X, B/0141/X, B/0361/X/d,<br />

B/0956/X, B/1234/X, B/0794/X,<br />

D/0022/X, G/0040/X, G/0146/X,<br />

G/0900/X, G/0698/X, Q/0415/X,<br />

V/0398/X, W/0063/X, W/0328/X,<br />

W/1342/X, W/0255/X, W/0489/X,<br />

W/0777/X.<br />

A/0846/X, A/0442/X, A/0425/X,<br />

A/0477/X, B/0152/X, B/0167/X,<br />

B/0525/X/d, B/0288/X/d, B/0331/X,<br />

B/1341/Z/d, B/0462/X, B/1309/X,<br />

B/0883/X, B/0409/X, B/0738/X,<br />

B/0782/X, B/0772/X, B/1114/X/d,<br />

D/0248/X, E/0523/X, E/0921/X,<br />

E/1074/X, G/0146/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/1098/X, G/0759/X,<br />

H/0915/X, H/0615/X, H/0515/X,<br />

P/0384/X, P/0642/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/0384/X/d, P/1219/X, P/0889/X,<br />

P/0899/X, Q/0501/X, Q/0739/X,<br />

Q/0790/X, V/0207/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0625/X, W/0511/X, W/0525/X,<br />

W/0324/X/d, W/0328/X, W/0334/X,<br />

W/0843/X, W/1080/X/d, W/1373/,<br />

W/1102/X/d, W/1119/X, W/0579/X,<br />

W/0423/X, W/0614/X, W/0423/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/1111/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/0811/X.<br />

It is also significantly unbalanced in that it reads though presuming that most improper<br />

behaviour will be by those exercising <strong>the</strong>ir access rights (A/0949/X)<br />

In secti<strong>on</strong> 6.4, is <strong>the</strong>re a reas<strong>on</strong> why land users are not encouraged to raise any<br />

problems with <strong>the</strong> landowner first (where appropriate)? (D/0022/X)<br />

If a land manager believes that some<strong>on</strong>e is acting irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly <strong>the</strong>y can ask <strong>the</strong>m to<br />

change <strong>the</strong>ir behaviour, and if <strong>the</strong>y d<strong>on</strong>'t <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y give up <strong>the</strong>ir access rights. The issue<br />

is too important to hinge <strong>on</strong> some<strong>on</strong>e's belief.. The first course <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> acti<strong>on</strong> should be to ask<br />

some<strong>on</strong>e to explain <strong>the</strong>ir behaviour (G0698/X)<br />

The c<strong>on</strong>text in which a member <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public is deemed to have given up right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

if <strong>the</strong>y choose to ignore a request from a land manager to change <strong>the</strong>ir behaviour is<br />

highly problematic - No <strong>on</strong>e loses any legal right in Scotland unless a court, not a land<br />

manager (however justified), takes it from him or her. (G/0854/X)<br />

The code suggests that <strong>the</strong> access rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> individual can be lost. This is when<br />

definiti<strong>on</strong>s matter. Who decides in real time if it is <strong>the</strong> land manager who is<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able. What practical recourse does <strong>the</strong> pers<strong>on</strong> seeking access have?<br />

(W/0489/X)<br />

s6 . Point 5 " Local authorities have powers to" - I am c<strong>on</strong>cerned local authorities will not<br />

remove obstructi<strong>on</strong>s, acquire land, provide facilities etc. because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cost (A/0477X)<br />

I also very much hope that you will lend SNH's weight to trying to get <strong>the</strong> Executive to<br />

provide <strong>the</strong> Local Authorities with funds to make Access work smoothly and effectively<br />

for <strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all <strong>the</strong> parties. (B/0152/X)<br />

Seeking help from a local authority is <strong>on</strong>ly to be useful to land managers if it is provided<br />

promptly at all times, including out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> hours, at weekends or at night when it is most likely<br />

to be needed . If such help is not available , land managers are likely to c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>the</strong><br />

Police...if <strong>the</strong>y can cite <strong>on</strong>e <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences listed in Annex1 (B/0525X/d)<br />

The role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> LA in supporting <strong>the</strong> Act must be emphasised str<strong>on</strong>gly. Looking to <strong>the</strong><br />

future we trust those resp<strong>on</strong>sible for creating core paths and establishing access to <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside will be properly provided with resources (G/0146/X)<br />

There will be increasing demands <strong>on</strong> local authorities to allocate resources to access.<br />

Resources will be required for physical projects, for <strong>on</strong>going maintenance, for ranger<br />

services and for educati<strong>on</strong>. West Dunbart<strong>on</strong>shire recognises that it has a major part to<br />

play in delivering resp<strong>on</strong>sible access within this area and hopes that <strong>the</strong> appropriate<br />

resources can be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to deliver <strong>the</strong> visi<strong>on</strong>. (P/0646/X)<br />

My <strong>on</strong>ly area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> doubt relates to <strong>the</strong> ability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local authorities to cope properly with <strong>the</strong><br />

many resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities placed <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>m. Will <strong>the</strong>y be adequately resourced for <strong>the</strong>ir key<br />

role in making <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> work in practice? (W/0423/X)<br />

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24f. <strong>the</strong> promoti<strong>on</strong> and<br />

educati<strong>on</strong> programme<br />

needs to be adequately<br />

resourced<br />

A/0871/X, B/0033/X, B/0254/X,<br />

H/0807/X, P/0890/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

W/0169/X, X/0811/X.<br />

24g. o<strong>the</strong>r A/0097/X, A/0500/Y/d, A/0671/X,<br />

A/0437/X, A/0825/X, A/0933/X,<br />

A/0958/X, A/1070/X/d, A/1084/X,<br />

A/0469/X, A/0471/X/d, A/0740/X,<br />

A/0796/X/d, B/0525/X/d, B/0558/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0569/X, B/0443/X,<br />

B/1295/X, B/0677/X, B/1005/X,<br />

B/0945/X, B/0949/X, B/1093/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1096/X, B/0593/X,<br />

B/0613/X, B/0461/X, B/0783/X/d,<br />

B/1108/X, B/1117/X, C/0234/X,<br />

D/1340/X, E/0086/X, E/0536/X,<br />

E/1211/X, E/1257/X, F/0998/X,<br />

G/0067/X, G/0854/X, G/1291/X,<br />

G/1330/X/d, G/1214/X, G/1251/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/0831/X, G/0917/X,<br />

G/0920/X, G/1098/X, G/0604/X,<br />

G/0730/X, H/1182/X, H/0310/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/0808/X, H/0615/X,<br />

K/0722/X, L/0113/X, M/0463/X,<br />

M/1043/X, N/0716/X, P/0642/X,<br />

P/0643/X, P/0548/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1237/X, P/1239/X, P/1247/X,<br />

P/1272/X, P/1273/X, P/1296/X,<br />

P/1300/X, P/0804/X, P/0869/X,<br />

P/0890/X, P/0899/X, P/0928/X,<br />

P/1066/X, P/0576/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0889/X, Q/0501/X, Q/0256/X,<br />

Q/1230/X, Q/0893/X, Q/0932/X,<br />

Q/0224/X, Q/0697/X/d, Q/0739/X,<br />

R/1221/X, R/1278/X, U/1172/X,<br />

V/0245/X, V/0975/X, W/0017/X,<br />

Although it doesn't c<strong>on</strong>cern <strong>the</strong> code we would like to see a budget provided for<br />

educati<strong>on</strong>. This should be directed at all age groups not <strong>on</strong>ly in schools. (B/0254/X)<br />

There was c<strong>on</strong>sensus... that educati<strong>on</strong> is required for all parties- this also extends to<br />

training <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> employees who find <strong>the</strong>mselves interfaced with Access problems - who<br />

should pay for this? (P/0890/X)<br />

As Rangers, we will inevitably be <strong>the</strong> first point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>tact in <strong>the</strong> event <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>flict. .. Need<br />

more training and funding <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to meet <strong>the</strong>se increased manpower and<br />

administrative demands (X/0811/X)<br />

There is <strong>on</strong>e user group not menti<strong>on</strong>ed at all by <strong>the</strong> code. The writers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

assume that all children and teenagers who visit <strong>the</strong> countryside do so as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a family<br />

group. Most children and teenagers…<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> urban fringe do so without adults, in large<br />

and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten intimidating posses (A/0871/X)<br />

6.6 <strong>the</strong>re is no safeguards for access rights from an over -zealous local authority…<strong>the</strong>re<br />

should be at least a provisi<strong>on</strong> for some form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> appeals process A/0500/Y/d<br />

What help does <strong>the</strong> Code give to land - owners to prevent some sort <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> mass access for<br />

any reas<strong>on</strong> which would undoubtedly be even more troublesome than access by <strong>on</strong>e<br />

pers<strong>on</strong> (B/0677/X)<br />

Codes are all very well but are totally useless in <strong>the</strong> case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> irresp<strong>on</strong>sible minority,<br />

and some form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> redress needs to be put in place for <strong>the</strong> protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> agricultural<br />

community. (E/1211/X)<br />

The existence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dispute procedures is not sufficiently emphasised here. The wording<br />

suggests that irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour is associated <strong>on</strong>ly with pers<strong>on</strong> exercising access<br />

rights and not with land managers. The history <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access disputes does not support this<br />

view. (G/0831/X)<br />

...paragraph 6.3 should emphasise more str<strong>on</strong>gly <strong>the</strong> benefits <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> encouraging parties to<br />

try and resolve differences before asking a pers<strong>on</strong> to leave (R/1278/X)<br />

I note that disputes can be taken to <strong>the</strong> local sheriffs, but it is not clear, if it is a grievance<br />

against land managers, who should tale <strong>the</strong> dispute to <strong>the</strong> Sheriff - <strong>the</strong> LA <strong>on</strong> behalf <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> public good ,or <strong>the</strong> member <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public who pointed out <strong>the</strong> problem.. who pays for<br />

this? (W/0063/X)<br />

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W/0034/X, W/0066/X, W/0078/X,<br />

W/0080/X, W/0044/X, W/0056/X,<br />

W/0388/X, W/0629/X, W/0644/X,<br />

W/0649/X, W/0095/X, W/0182/X,<br />

W/1189/X, W/1342/X, W/0214/X,<br />

W/1310/X/d, W/1329/X, W/0981/X,<br />

W/1202/X, W/1217/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1265/X, W/0242/X, W/0901/X/d,<br />

W/1151/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/0950/X/d, W/0944/X, W/0972/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0581/X, W/0489/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0780/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/1109/X, W/1109/X, W/1116/X,<br />

X/0193/X/d, X/1212/X, X/0896/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/0937/X, X/1067/X,<br />

X/0122/X, X/0784/X.<br />

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Summary – Questi<strong>on</strong>s 23 & 24<br />

Degree <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> support.<br />

Many <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> highlighted that Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code was useful. However, in c<strong>on</strong>tradicti<strong>on</strong> to this, a significant number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

highlighted that <strong>the</strong>re is no adequate means to act against irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by recreati<strong>on</strong>al users.<br />

Key issues/c<strong>on</strong>cerns raised.<br />

Underlying comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> Secti<strong>on</strong> 6 were real c<strong>on</strong>cerns, particularly from land management interests, that no real enforcement against irresp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour is available. In this respect <strong>the</strong>re are:<br />

• misunderstandings <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> expectati<strong>on</strong> that local authorities will provide cover 24 hours a day and 7 days a week;<br />

• c<strong>on</strong>cerns and doubts about <strong>the</strong> ability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> police or local authority to act quickly;<br />

• a need for clarity about what “being outwith access rights” actually means <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> ground;<br />

• a need for fur<strong>the</strong>r advice <strong>on</strong> what to do when <strong>the</strong>re is a disagreement over behaviour; and<br />

• c<strong>on</strong>cerns about <strong>the</strong> inability to identify users who may be acting with criminal intent.<br />

In making <strong>the</strong>se comments, <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> highlighted <strong>the</strong> need for additi<strong>on</strong>al resources, local authorities to implement <strong>the</strong>ir duties and powers, core paths<br />

and educati<strong>on</strong>al guidance.<br />

Main changes <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>.<br />

In light <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se comments, <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code has significantly changed from <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. It now:<br />

• emphasises <strong>the</strong> need for people to act courteously and c<strong>on</strong>siderately;<br />

• notes that <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code provides, for <strong>the</strong> first time, a framework for assessing if some<strong>on</strong>e is not being resp<strong>on</strong>sible;<br />

• states, simply, what opti<strong>on</strong>s or steps are available to people when <strong>the</strong>y come across acti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>the</strong>y c<strong>on</strong>sider to be irresp<strong>on</strong>sible;<br />

• refers to <strong>the</strong> range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> duties and powers available to manage situati<strong>on</strong>s where <strong>the</strong>re are regular or l<strong>on</strong>g-term problems to address; and<br />

• refers to relevant sources and bodies for fur<strong>the</strong>r assistance.<br />

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OTHER ISSUES COMMENTED ON BY RESPONDENTS TO THE CONSULTATION ON THE DRAFT SCOTTISH OUTDOOR ACCESS CODE<br />

Issue Resources Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

A/0077/X, A/0362/X, A/0658/X/d,<br />

General c<strong>on</strong>cerns about<br />

overall cost <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

implementing access<br />

rights and source from<br />

which this will be met<br />

A/0289/X, A/1194/X, A/1338/X,<br />

A/0437/X, A/0219/X, A/0477/X,<br />

A/0726/X, A/0762/X, A/0774/X,<br />

A/1037/X, B/0038/X, B/0048/X,<br />

B/0054/X, B/0151/X, B/0152/X,<br />

B/0345/X, B/0353/X, B/0356/X,<br />

B/0368/X, B/0376/X, B/0377/X,<br />

B/0385/X/d, B/0620/Y, B/0638/X/d,<br />

B/0171/X/d, B/0317/X, B/0326/X,<br />

B/0331/X, B/0859/X, B/1183/X,<br />

B/1187/X, B/1190/X, B/0563/X,<br />

B/0565/X, B/0569/X, B/0672/X,<br />

B/1015/X, B/1017/X, B/1301/X,<br />

B/1323/X, B/0443/X, B/0982/X,<br />

B/1208/X, B/1236/X, B/1231/X,<br />

Specific calls for <strong>Scottish</strong> B/1244/X, B/1250/X, B/1253/X,<br />

Executive / <strong>Scottish</strong> B/1261/X, B/1262/X, B/1269/X,<br />

Natural Heritage to meet B/1292/X, B/1295/X, B/1240/X,<br />

cost<br />

B/0842/X, B/0879/X, B/0929/X,<br />

B/1152/X, B/0995/X, B/0996/X,<br />

B/0954/X, B/0964/X, B/0969/X,<br />

B/0970/X, B/1072/X, B/1089/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0592/X, B/0593/X,<br />

B/0594/X, B/0599/X/d, B/0613/X,<br />

It seems far from clear whe<strong>the</strong>r enough resources will be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available, ei<strong>the</strong>r for<br />

educating <strong>the</strong> public, or for providing properly maintained and signed paths. (B/0152/X)<br />

How can Scotland afford nati<strong>on</strong>alised access? (B/1301/X)<br />

Access should not be introduced until after <strong>the</strong> necessary additi<strong>on</strong>al resources are in<br />

place to support resp<strong>on</strong>sible access and resp<strong>on</strong>sible land managers. To do o<strong>the</strong>rwise<br />

will simply lose credibility with a significant proporti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> general public. (B/1323/X)<br />

The SLF has very grave c<strong>on</strong>cerns about funding for <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access, and believe that<br />

unless <strong>the</strong> right is well funded <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> public will be let down and landowners and<br />

managers will be blamed for any lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access facilities. (H/1103/X)<br />

It is vital to emphasise <strong>the</strong> need for adequate resourcing to ensure <strong>the</strong> success <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Code and <strong>the</strong> Act in general. (P/1219/X)<br />

Who is going to pay for <strong>the</strong> maintenance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths and tracks used by bikers and horse<br />

riders? (V/0398/X)<br />

In giving <strong>the</strong> public "freedom to roam" more damage is going to happen. Who is going to<br />

pay for that? (W/1024/X)<br />

The questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> FUNDING must be addressed by <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive so that Local<br />

Authorities and o<strong>the</strong>r agencies have m<strong>on</strong>ey to spend <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> CORE PATH NETWORK,<br />

RANGERS, ACCESS FORUMS, EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS, ETC. (W/0766/X)<br />

Additi<strong>on</strong>al grants must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available (ei<strong>the</strong>r through SEERAD or SNH) to land<br />

managers to enable <strong>the</strong>m to provide adequate access provisi<strong>on</strong>, where c<strong>on</strong>flict occurs or<br />

where a demand can be dem<strong>on</strong>strated, e.g installati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> stiles, gates, fences, car parks,<br />

picnic areas and footpaths. The rate <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grant should be compatible with <strong>the</strong> 90% grant<br />

rate that can be accessed under <strong>the</strong> new <strong>Scottish</strong> Forestry Grant Scheme for Woodland<br />

Recreati<strong>on</strong>. (X/1298/X)<br />

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Land managers should<br />

not bear <strong>the</strong> cost / require<br />

additi<strong>on</strong>al resources<br />

Local authorities should<br />

bear cost / require<br />

adequate resources<br />

Police require more<br />

resources<br />

B/0127/X, B/0127/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0428/X/d, B/0510/X, B/0506/X,<br />

B/0461/X, B/0404/X, B/0466/X/d,<br />

B/0470/X, B/0470/X, B/0480/X,<br />

B/0481/X, B/0683/X, B/1267/X/d,<br />

B/0745/X, B/0782/X, B/0794/X,<br />

B/1049/X, B/1108/X, B/1117/X,<br />

B/1127/X/d, B/0294/X, D/0248/X,<br />

E/0616/X, E/0523/X, E/0536/X,<br />

E/1246/Y, E/1257/X, E/0590/X,<br />

E/0590/X, E/0703/X, E/0703/X,<br />

E/0703/X, E/1113/X, F/1124/X,<br />

G/1192/X, G/1291/X, G/0973/X,<br />

G/1098/X, G/1106/X, H/0352/X,<br />

H/0370/X, H/1222/X, H/0310/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/1179/X, H/0988/X,<br />

H/0615/X, H/0460/X, H/1042/X,<br />

L/0113/X, L/0992/X, N/0716/X,<br />

N/0773/X, P/0646/X, P/1219/X,<br />

P/1273/X, P/1273/X, P/1296/X,<br />

P/1300/X, P/0890/X, P/0575/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/0575/X, Q/0364/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/0304/X, Q/0206/X,<br />

Q/1286/X, Q/1346/X, Q/0824/X,<br />

Q/0930/X, Q/1165/X, Q/1178/X,<br />

Q/1105/X, Q/0479/X, Q/0739/X,<br />

R/1256/X, R/0763/X, U/1172/X,<br />

V/0398/X, W/0140/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0359/X, W/0381/X, W/0641/X,<br />

W/0102/X, W/0108/X, W/0503/X,<br />

W/0529/X, W/0524/X, W/0278/X,<br />

W/0283/X, W/0669/X/d, W/1014/X,<br />

W/1021/X, W/1024/X, W/1202/X,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1264/X, W/1266/X,<br />

W/0242/X, W/0986/X, W/0812/Y,<br />

The landowner should not have to foot <strong>the</strong> bill al<strong>on</strong>e; <strong>the</strong> tax paying "user" should expect<br />

to bear most <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> cost....Why should landowners provide this extraordinary public<br />

service free <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> charge? (B/0620/Y)<br />

It is widely recognised that <strong>the</strong> burden <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access provisi<strong>on</strong> falls <strong>on</strong> owners and managers<br />

and that existing and proposed support mechanisms fall short <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> actual costs. Why is<br />

this being allowed to c<strong>on</strong>tinue? (E/1257/X)<br />

It would make <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access easier for landowners/managers to deal with if<br />

agricultural grant and subsidy schemes included measures for access, in <strong>the</strong> same way<br />

that <strong>the</strong>y do for c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> measures - making access an integral part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> farm and land<br />

management, not an opti<strong>on</strong>al extra. (P/0890/X)<br />

Land managers should not be put to additi<strong>on</strong>al expense in maintaining or in any way<br />

overseeing <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such structures bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong>ir own requirement. We doubt<br />

that sufficient public funds can be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to meet all extra costs...to <strong>the</strong> extent<br />

that no additi<strong>on</strong>al expense falls <strong>on</strong> land managers. (Q/1178/X)<br />

I feel that Local Authorities should be provided with resources to supply core paths and<br />

to clear blocked routes. (A/0219/X)<br />

...adequate funding to develop a paths network by Local Authorities is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> essence if<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is to be access to enclosed countryside which benefits both locals and visitors<br />

alike. (B/0368/X)<br />

I also suspect that many local authorities will claim or find <strong>the</strong> d<strong>on</strong>'t have <strong>the</strong> funding to<br />

carry out <strong>the</strong>ir resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities to an effective level. (B/0672/X)<br />

The legal positi<strong>on</strong> is that resources, <strong>on</strong>ce allocated to local authorities, can be spent at<br />

local discreti<strong>on</strong>. To ensure that paths are properly resourced without any doubt <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

outcome, we recommend a c<strong>on</strong>tractual relati<strong>on</strong>ship between central and local<br />

government for this purpose. (H/0310/X)<br />

Key to <strong>the</strong> success <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code will be appropriate resourcing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local authorities to<br />

support delivery <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> well planned and managed access…… Argyll & Bute Council<br />

<strong>the</strong>refore request that extensive guidance, training opportunities and significant and<br />

representative allocati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resources are <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available to local authorities in respect<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir duties under <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> and Code. (P/1296/X)<br />

Provisi<strong>on</strong> must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> for <strong>the</strong> preventi<strong>on</strong>, detecti<strong>on</strong> and eleminati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> anti-social<br />

behaviour, vandalism and <strong>the</strong>ft. Significant costs may be incurred toge<strong>the</strong>r with police<br />

time. (E/0536/X)<br />

Additi<strong>on</strong>al rural police should be recruited to deal with access problems especially near<br />

urban areas. (W/1088/X)<br />

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Importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> funding for<br />

necessary infrastructure<br />

Importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> funding for<br />

ranger services / access<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers<br />

Importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> funding for<br />

educati<strong>on</strong> programme<br />

W/0843/X, W/0870/X, W/1153/Z/d,<br />

W/1159/X/d, W/0950/X/d,<br />

W/0955/X, W/0957/X, W/0962/X/d,<br />

W/1088/X, W/1102/X/d, W/1123/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0581/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0589/X, W/0589/X, W/0589/X,<br />

W/0591/X, W/0591/X, W/0591/X,<br />

W/0612/X, W/0612/X, W/0435/X,<br />

W/0708/X/d, W/0735/X, W/0746/X,<br />

W/0766/X, W/0778/X, W/0780/X,<br />

W/0780/X, W/0789/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/1035/X, W/1110/X, W/1112/X,<br />

X/0637/X, X/639/X, X/0196/X,<br />

X/0543/X, X/0664/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/1298/X, X/0099/X, X/1385/X,<br />

X/1036/X, X/0939/X, X/0495/X,<br />

X/0784/X, W/1373/.<br />

Paths: C<strong>on</strong>structed and maintained. Who will pay for <strong>the</strong>m? Often <strong>the</strong> areas with <strong>the</strong><br />

greatest need for c<strong>on</strong>structed paths are those with <strong>the</strong> lowest budgets. An argument for<br />

central funding? (A/1194/X)<br />

Funding must be provided <strong>on</strong> a l<strong>on</strong>g term basis both for <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>structi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> facilities:<br />

paths, way markers, interpretati<strong>on</strong> boards, stiles, footbridges, rubbish bins etc etc and<br />

also for <strong>the</strong> maintenance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> same. (B/0969/X)<br />

The importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> educati<strong>on</strong> and awareness raising is c<strong>on</strong>stantly emphasised. There is<br />

an overall feeling that this will <strong>on</strong>ly be achieved by <strong>the</strong> employment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> more<br />

Countryside/Access Rangers. (P/1273/X)<br />

Will SNH be revising <strong>the</strong> ranger guidelines and levels <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grant to reflect new access<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities? (P/0575/X)<br />

The demands <strong>on</strong> Countryside staff which will stem from <strong>the</strong> implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act<br />

and <strong>the</strong> Code stamp an indelible subliminal message <strong>on</strong> every page <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> document viz.<br />

WE NEED MORE RANGERS! (W/0108/X)<br />

What is required is nothing short <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a culture change <strong>on</strong> all sides. This will require<br />

educati<strong>on</strong>al and promoti<strong>on</strong>al activity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> highest quality and a c<strong>on</strong>siderable period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

time to achieve. Substantial investment will also be necessary. (H/1179/X)<br />

Informing <strong>the</strong> public about assorted activities will cost a c<strong>on</strong>siderable amount <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> m<strong>on</strong>ey<br />

and <strong>the</strong> erecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signs, informati<strong>on</strong> boards, publishing leaflets etc should be supported<br />

by grant assistance from <strong>Scottish</strong> Natural Heritage. (H/1042/X)<br />

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Issue Does <strong>the</strong> Code provide adequate guidance <strong>on</strong> how <strong>the</strong> public can put something<br />

back?<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

25<br />

No - <strong>the</strong>re should be more<br />

guidance <strong>on</strong> how to put<br />

something back into <strong>the</strong><br />

outdoors<br />

A/0844/X, B/0181/X, B/0826/X/d,<br />

B/0672/X, B/1295/X, B/1250/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0558/X, B/288/X/d,<br />

E/0924/X, E/0086/X, E/0616/X,<br />

F/1213/X, H/1103/X, H/1179/X,<br />

J/1058/X, Q/1178/X, Q/1286/X,<br />

Q/0264/X, W/0781/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1111/X, W/1110/X, W/1110/X,<br />

W/0789/X.<br />

I welcome <strong>the</strong> encouragement for walkers, climbers, cyclists etc to c<strong>on</strong>tribute to <strong>the</strong><br />

ec<strong>on</strong>omy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> rural areas where <strong>the</strong>y enjoy access by using local business, shops,<br />

catering, accommodati<strong>on</strong>, etc. I would ask that this encouragement be widened to<br />

specify local public transport. Visitors to <strong>the</strong> countryside can make a valuable<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tributi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> retenti<strong>on</strong> and development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> services that benefit local people by<br />

using <strong>the</strong>m....It is also better for <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment. (A/0844/X)<br />

I d<strong>on</strong>’t quite understand how buying goods and services in <strong>the</strong> locality can necessarily<br />

help <strong>the</strong> farmers over whose land access is taken. This paragraph is patr<strong>on</strong>ising and<br />

fluffy. (B/0181/X)<br />

Putting something back into <strong>the</strong> outdoors is a good idea, should SNH/SEERAD lead by<br />

example so that land managers have incentives to act positively <strong>on</strong> a piece <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

heavily balanced against <strong>the</strong>ir financial and o<strong>the</strong>r interests. (B/0672/X)<br />

If, for example, horse riders or <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f-road cyclists are encouraged or enabled to take<br />

access to paths or tracks by commercial businesses earning income from <strong>the</strong> hire or<br />

provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horses or bikes from instructi<strong>on</strong>, <strong>the</strong>n those businesses should be obliged to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tribute towards <strong>the</strong> cost <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> managing and maintaining <strong>the</strong> paths or tracks. Canoe<br />

hire or instructi<strong>on</strong> should be associated with <strong>the</strong> costs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> providing river-bank access<br />

points. ... The code should encourage <strong>the</strong>m to make some financial c<strong>on</strong>tributi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong><br />

local ec<strong>on</strong>omy for <strong>the</strong>ir use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land. ... So that land managers can be encouraged to<br />

assist and advise <strong>the</strong>re should be a mechanism to encourage <strong>the</strong> event or business<br />

organiser to recompense <strong>the</strong> land manager for <strong>the</strong> time and skill spent in providing such<br />

advice or assistance. (B/1295/X)<br />

...this secti<strong>on</strong> should suggest that commercial operators should look for opportunities to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tribute to <strong>the</strong> maintenance and upkeep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths and o<strong>the</strong>r facilities, for example<br />

through Access Trusts. (B/0574/X)<br />

The Code raises <strong>the</strong> issues <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> putting something back into <strong>the</strong> countryside. It is our<br />

opini<strong>on</strong> that an annual access permit should be required by all pers<strong>on</strong>s seeking access<br />

to <strong>the</strong> open countryside, <strong>the</strong> revenues raised by such a licence covering <strong>the</strong><br />

administrative cost and funding <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access facilities and signage.<br />

(E/0616/X)<br />

Ano<strong>the</strong>r way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> supporting <strong>the</strong> new arrangements is actively to promote setting up <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

"adopt a path" schemes, possibly under <strong>the</strong> auspices <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Local Access Forums. This<br />

has been very successful in o<strong>the</strong>r countries. (W/0781/X)<br />

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Issue Duties and powers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local authorities Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

164<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Arbitrati<strong>on</strong> / c<strong>on</strong>flict<br />

resoluti<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0390/X, A/0098/X, A/0289/X,<br />

A/1194/X, A/0437/X, A/0442/X,<br />

A/1283/X, A/0290/X, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0871/X, A/0919/X, A/0927/X,<br />

A/1073/X, A/1077/X, A/1082/X,<br />

A/1095/X, A/0487/X, A/0719/X/d,<br />

A/0796/X/d, A/1037/X, B/0054/X,<br />

B/0058/X, B/0355/X, B/0368/X,<br />

B/0638/X/d, B/0116/X/d,<br />

B/0288/X/d, B/0280/X, B/1187/X,<br />

B/0558/X, B/0672/X, B/0679/X,<br />

B/1017/X, B/1306/X/d, B/0443/X,<br />

B/0446/X, B/1269/X, B/1271/X,<br />

B/1005/X, B/1347/X, B/0827/X,<br />

B/0929/X, B/1152/X, B/1157/X,<br />

B/1094/X, B/1096/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0127/X, B/0461/X, B/0681/X,<br />

B/0704/X, B/0738/X, B/0787/X/d,<br />

B/0294/X, E/0616/X, E/0921/X,<br />

Dispute resoluti<strong>on</strong>. Will standardised procedures be developed nati<strong>on</strong>ally to allow LA's to<br />

address <strong>the</strong>se issues in an effective administrative manner across Scotland? When an<br />

Access Forum is involved in dispute resoluti<strong>on</strong> will guidance be issued and training to<br />

<strong>the</strong> Forum given. How will decisi<strong>on</strong>s be taken by Forums, which, although c<strong>on</strong>stituted,<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten have little or no elective representati<strong>on</strong>, by many members. Where does <strong>the</strong> whole<br />

statutory provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local authority elected members and <strong>the</strong> reporting procedure for<br />

Committee decisi<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> issues sit with this rec<strong>on</strong>ciliati<strong>on</strong>/judgement process? What<br />

recourse will be available, should this informal Access Forum route fail. What is <strong>the</strong><br />

appeal process? What will c<strong>on</strong>stitute evidence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour? Fur<strong>the</strong>r<br />

guidance is required to assist administrative duties <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both <strong>the</strong> Police and LAs. Is <strong>the</strong><br />

ever expanding role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Police Community Liais<strong>on</strong> being c<strong>on</strong>sidered as a first line <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

c<strong>on</strong>tact when <strong>the</strong>re is a breach <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> behaviour? (P/1273/X)<br />

However, as local public representatives, <strong>the</strong>y (local authorities) may be somewhat<br />

biased in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public access users as against land managers, and <strong>the</strong>ir decisi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

should be open to appeal. How? Where? SNH? (B/1096/X)<br />

Page 52, Item 1, bullet point 6. There are doubts about <strong>the</strong> ability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an access forum as<br />

presently managed to resolve any dispute. The low frequency/attendance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> meetings as<br />

at present would not facilitate <strong>the</strong> resoluti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any such dispute......X/1290/X)<br />

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Resources<br />

Power to exclude land<br />

E/0924/X, E/1079/X, E/1113/X,<br />

F/0360/X, G/0067/X, G/0067/X,<br />

G/0067/X, G/0657/X, G/0082/X,<br />

G/1155/X, G/0132/X, G/0795/X,<br />

G/1057/X, H/1182/X, H/0310/X,<br />

H/0807/X, H/1128/X, J/0544/X,<br />

J/1284/X, K/0444/X, K/1241/X,<br />

L/0650/X, L/0992/X, L/0125/X,<br />

M/0463/X, M/1327/X, P/0384/X,<br />

P/0642/X, P/0643/X, P/0646/X,<br />

P/1304/X, P/1219/X, P/1239/X,<br />

P/1247/X, P/1273/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/1296/X, P/0878/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/1066/X, P/0575/X, P/0575/X,<br />

P/0577/X, P/0491/X, Q/0091/X,<br />

Q/0501/X, Q/0323/X, Q/1252/X,<br />

Q/1275/X, Q/0932/X, Q/0424/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, R/0059/X, R/1090/X,<br />

R/0121/X, U/0363/X, U/1172/X,<br />

W/0008/X, W/0063/X, W/0071/X,<br />

W/0079/X, W/0056/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0348/X/d, W/0637/X, W/0644/X,<br />

W/0649/X, W/0102/X, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0110/X, W/0119/X, W/0174/X,<br />

W/0277/X, W/0292/X, W/0296/X,<br />

W/1198/X, W/0533/X, W/0212/X,<br />

W/1227/X/d, W/1225/X, W/1277/X,<br />

W/0812/Y, W/1158/X, W/1102/X,<br />

W/0579/X, W/0581/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/1377//d, W/0589/X, W/0702/Y,<br />

W/0705/X, W/0705/X, W/0720/X,<br />

W/1132/X, W/1135/X, W/1148/X/d,<br />

W/1149/X, W/1112/X, X/0192/X/d,<br />

X/0664/X, X/1290/X, X/1171/X,<br />

X/1174/X, X/0989/X, X/0937/X,<br />

X/0939/X, X/1067/X, X/1069/X.<br />

Whilst <strong>the</strong> code recommends that local authorities make full use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir duties and<br />

powers I am very c<strong>on</strong>cerned that few will have <strong>the</strong> resources to do so adequately. Local<br />

authorities may be reluctant to act due to inadequate staff numbers especially where<br />

<strong>the</strong>y <strong>on</strong>ly have a power to act ra<strong>the</strong>r than do a duty, or where <strong>on</strong>ly a few complaints have<br />

been <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> about an access problem. This will be especially critical in local authorities<br />

with large areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> popular countryside. (A/0437/X)<br />

If a road or path is categorised by <strong>the</strong> local authority as a core path, <strong>the</strong> pressure <strong>on</strong> it,<br />

and gates and stiles acrossi it, will be multiplied a thousand fold. That is not normal wear<br />

and tear, so whose resp<strong>on</strong>sibility is it to maintain it? It should be <strong>the</strong> accessors under <strong>the</strong><br />

eminently fair, balance and reas<strong>on</strong>able maxim <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "USER PAYS", but as that will never<br />

happen, it leaves <strong>the</strong> local authority as <strong>the</strong> user's representative. The Code should<br />

<strong>the</strong>refore make it clear that <strong>the</strong> local authority does indeed have such resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities.<br />

(B/0058/X)<br />

Local authorities should be prepared to acquire additi<strong>on</strong>al land if it's recreati<strong>on</strong>al value<br />

for <strong>the</strong> public is dem<strong>on</strong>stratable. (B/0127/X)<br />

More detailed guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> local authority as landowner may have been <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

assistance in seeking finance and securing budgets for Public Access Projects.<br />

(P/1304/X)<br />

The first impressi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code is that it should not impact <strong>on</strong> policing to any significant<br />

degree bey<strong>on</strong>d attending to investigate <strong>the</strong> relatively few statutory or comm<strong>on</strong>-law<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fences already resulting from access. However <strong>the</strong> lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> perceived powers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Local<br />

Authority representatives may result in such frustrati<strong>on</strong> that calls will be directed to <strong>the</strong><br />

police instead. (U/0363/X)<br />

6.6 "A Local Authority could also use <strong>the</strong>ir power to exempt particular land or exclude<br />

particular c<strong>on</strong>duct from <strong>the</strong> access rights". This would appear to be a dangerous catchall<br />

which should be omitted. (A/0442/X)<br />

The Access Code should state that Local Authorities are under an obligati<strong>on</strong> to deal with<br />

requests to exclude land or water from access rights quickly. If <strong>the</strong>y refuse c<strong>on</strong>sent<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>s should be stated and <strong>the</strong>re should be an appeals procedure perhaps to <strong>the</strong><br />

Local Access Forum. There should be an assumpti<strong>on</strong> that if no resp<strong>on</strong>se has been<br />

received from <strong>the</strong> Council within 14 days <strong>the</strong> land manager has <strong>the</strong> right to exempt <strong>the</strong><br />

land for <strong>the</strong> event taking place. (B/0558/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 2.18 we feel that <strong>the</strong>re will be problems <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> communicating temporary land<br />

closures by local authorities. We have been unable to produce any suggesti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> how<br />

to overcome this, bearing in mind how poor <strong>the</strong> existing lines <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> communicati<strong>on</strong> tend to<br />

be. (G/0082/X)<br />

There will be issues regarding closure <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths or areas for maintenance, and health and<br />

safety reas<strong>on</strong>s. In some instances <strong>the</strong>re may have to be an exempti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> access rights<br />

for more than five days, but <strong>the</strong>re does not appear to be recogniti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this in <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

(P/0491/X)<br />

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Local Access Forums In <strong>the</strong> wider area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Local Area Fora we believe that Fora should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> up <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Community Representatives. Both SNH and Local Authorities have Statutory Duties and<br />

must advise service LAF's. Lobbying groups such as <strong>the</strong> Ramblers Associati<strong>on</strong>, NFU,<br />

RSPB, BHS and <strong>the</strong> numerous similar bodies must not be allowed to dominate <strong>the</strong><br />

agenda to <strong>the</strong> detriment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> local communities. Also, all meetings must be publicly<br />

advertised and open to <strong>the</strong> public to demostrate transparency and fairness. (H/1182/X)<br />

Local Accuss Forum. Having just <strong>on</strong>e Access Forum per local authority make it too easy<br />

to enforce central c<strong>on</strong>trol and ignore <strong>the</strong> views <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> local community. (X/0637/X)<br />

Removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> obstructi<strong>on</strong>s P61, Removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> obstructi<strong>on</strong> and Upholding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights. The wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se<br />

paragraphs doesn't seem to match, i.e. 'A local authority can remove any prohibiting<br />

sign….' compared with 'Each local authority has a duty to assert, protect and keep<br />

open…' Surely, if <strong>the</strong> local authority has a duty to assert....it should also 'have a duty to<br />

remove any prohibiting sign.....' (A/0719 /X/d)<br />

4.5 Obstructi<strong>on</strong>. The Act empowers Local Authorities to remove obstructi<strong>on</strong>s where<br />

appropriate. We are c<strong>on</strong>cerned about how Local Authorities will interpret <strong>the</strong>se powers<br />

for instance in seeking <strong>the</strong> opening or removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> existing locked gates etc. and <strong>the</strong><br />

Code does not adequately address this. (E/0616/X)<br />

Planning All planning applicati<strong>on</strong>s should have a written secti<strong>on</strong> regarding access to properties.<br />

(B/0679/X)<br />

Spokes would like to see a link between <strong>the</strong> S.O.A.C. and <strong>the</strong> 'Green Transport Plans'<br />

that are a feature associated with <strong>the</strong> granting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> planning permissi<strong>on</strong> when high schools<br />

(plus <strong>the</strong>ir sports facilities) are built or extended. (G/0067/X)<br />

There should be guidelines and specific requirements pertaining to all block<br />

development to ensure routes through <strong>the</strong> building plots or between <strong>the</strong>m, allowing<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tinued access from top to bottom - eg every 50, or 100 yards. (L/0992/X)<br />

Byelaws With different bye laws brought in by different local authorities access takers are going to<br />

still find it difficult to know <strong>the</strong>ir rights. (B/1187/X)<br />

Perhaps as a protecti<strong>on</strong>, against byelaws being slipped through <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> quiet, all access<br />

related byelaws should be referred to <strong>the</strong> proposed new Nati<strong>on</strong>al Access Forum for<br />

clearance before enactment. (X/0989/X)<br />

General points It is not reas<strong>on</strong>able to allow <strong>the</strong> access rights to come into effect before local authorities<br />

have put in place <strong>the</strong> measures to deal with problems arising from such acti<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

(B/1306/X/d)<br />

In Annex 3 <strong>the</strong> Code sets out <strong>the</strong> duties and powers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Local Authorities. An obvious<br />

omissi<strong>on</strong> is <strong>the</strong> duty to assist Land Managers where access rights are being abused or<br />

are detrimental to <strong>the</strong> land. (B/1271/X)<br />

There are specific requirements in <strong>the</strong> Act for local authorities to take into account <strong>the</strong><br />

needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled people when planning, developing and managing access. The<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament specifically included this provisi<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> Act but again <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

does not even menti<strong>on</strong> it let al<strong>on</strong>e develop it. (M/0463/X)<br />

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Argyll & Bute Council would require clarificati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> whe<strong>the</strong>r claimed rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way will<br />

still be required to be asserted by <strong>the</strong> Council as a duty and in order to clarify <strong>the</strong> implied<br />

informal status associated with <strong>the</strong>m....…(P/1296/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> proposed three year period for <strong>the</strong> local authorities to prepare a path plan is<br />

excessively l<strong>on</strong>g. This is already resulting in out local authority saying that <strong>the</strong>re is not<br />

rush since <strong>the</strong>y have three years before things need to change! (X/1069/X)<br />

The role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Nati<strong>on</strong>al Park Authorities as <strong>the</strong> Access Authorities within Nati<strong>on</strong>al Parks,<br />

needs to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clearer throughout <strong>the</strong> Code. (P/1247/X)<br />

Path Agreements and orders. Provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Paths etc. Proper c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> should take<br />

place and <strong>the</strong> views <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> siting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a path for sensible land<br />

management reas<strong>on</strong>s should prevail over some<strong>on</strong>e in an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fice drawing a line <strong>on</strong> a map<br />

and <strong>the</strong>n setting it is st<strong>on</strong>e. (W/1102/X/d)<br />

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Issue Paths and Tracks Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

295<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Resources<br />

A/0105/X, A/0098/X, A/0518/X,<br />

A/0289/X, A/0320/X/d, A/1194/X,<br />

A/0553/, A/0290/X, A/0997/X,<br />

A/0933/X, A/0598/X/d, A/0636/X,<br />

A/0440/X/d, A/0471/X/d, A/0762/X,<br />

A/0769/X/d, A/0796/X/d,<br />

A/0796/X/d, B/0366/X, B/0628/X,<br />

B/0633/X, B/0638/X/d, B/0653/X,<br />

B/0107/X, B/0118/X, B/0505/X,<br />

B/0275/X, B/0280/X, B/0862/X,<br />

B/1181/X, B/1183/X, B/1200/X,<br />

B/0563/X, B/0564/X, B/1019/X,<br />

L A's to produce plan for core paths but no date set for implementing <strong>the</strong> plans or details<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> funding. (B/0446/X)<br />

We stress that <strong>the</strong> core network requires regular maintenance to keep up a high<br />

standard to encourage people to make use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>m. (B/1244/X)<br />

There will be significant resource implicati<strong>on</strong>s for <strong>the</strong> Council in <strong>the</strong> preparati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a core<br />

path plan, in its implementati<strong>on</strong> and in subsequent arrangements for it management, all<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> which will require <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a fully operati<strong>on</strong>al computerised path record.<br />

(P/1329/X)<br />

Paragraph 2.20 Are such paths and tracks to be maintained at <strong>the</strong> landowner's<br />

expense? Would a lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> maintenance leave <strong>the</strong> owner in breach <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act?<br />

(B/0943/X)<br />

General points<br />

B/1350/X, B/0238/X, B/0244/X,<br />

B/0254/X, B/0211/X, B/0956/X,<br />

B/1309/X, B/1322/d, B/1328/X,<br />

B/0443/X, B/0446/X, B/1231/X,<br />

B/1244/X, B/1248/X, B/1253/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/1271/X, B/1281/X,<br />

B/1293/X, B/1295/X, B/1002/X,<br />

B/1240/X, B/1347/X, B/0819/X,<br />

B/0826/X/d, B/0895/X, B/0929/X,<br />

B/1164/X, B/1176/X, B/0931/X/d,<br />

B/0938/X/d, B/0943/X, B/0954/X,<br />

B/0964/X, B/0969/X, B/1094/X,<br />

B/0585/X, B/0593/X, B/0594/X,<br />

B/0609/X, B/0613/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0406/X, B/0413/X, B/0506/X,<br />

B/0506/X, B/0461/X, B/0404/X,<br />

B/0466/X/d, B/0467/X, B/0470/X,<br />

B/0470/X, B/0472/X, B/0488/X/d,<br />

B/0681/X, B/0704/X, B/0711/X,<br />

B/0760/X, B/1049/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1131/X, B/1142/X, B/1146/X,<br />

B/1148/X/d, B/0294/X, B/0294/X,<br />

B/0294/X, B/1375/, D/0550/X,<br />

Pg 23, 2/2<br />

"On all o<strong>the</strong>r paths and tracks"<br />

Many hundreds <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths and tracks have been ploughed up and planted over. The<br />

Code gives no guidance <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access <strong>the</strong> public have to reinstate <strong>the</strong>se<br />

routes. (A/0769/X/d)<br />

(Windfarm Development) In accordance to Secti<strong>on</strong> 7 (1) <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act, access rights can still<br />

be exercised <strong>on</strong> 'core paths' in <strong>the</strong> above areas; this is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cern specifically during <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>structi<strong>on</strong> phase <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a windfarm development. Due to <strong>the</strong> scale <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> works involved, <strong>the</strong><br />

safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any user exercising <strong>the</strong>ir access rights al<strong>on</strong>g any 'core path' in close proximity<br />

to such works would be jeopardised. (E/0867/X)<br />

It is felt that <strong>the</strong>re is a c<strong>on</strong>tradicti<strong>on</strong> with regard to managed access by means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> path<br />

network and that this path network may dilute what is at <strong>the</strong> heart <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> "<strong>the</strong><br />

freedom to roam". In Shetland <strong>the</strong>re is a traditi<strong>on</strong>al freedom <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible access to <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside and this traditi<strong>on</strong> will be eroded by <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a path network where<br />

managed access is <strong>the</strong> norm................ (W/1287/X)<br />

Paths are important for facilitating access to <strong>the</strong> countryside particularly where people<br />

are nervous <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong>s or unclear where <strong>the</strong>y may go ……..paths are not an<br />

alternative to access to <strong>the</strong> open countryside, <strong>the</strong> mountains or water. Provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

paths must not be seen as a mechanism for c<strong>on</strong>trolling or restricting access (W/0489/X)<br />

Page 44, side note. The side note <strong>on</strong> page 44 states that local authorities must obtain<br />

<strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a Land Manager to provide core paths and any additi<strong>on</strong>al facilities.<br />

However, local authorities have a compulsory purchase power under secti<strong>on</strong> 16 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Act, <strong>the</strong>refore this statement is not strictly accurate. (X/1353/X)<br />

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Core Paths Network<br />

E/0351/X, E/0523/X, E/1246/Y,<br />

E/1257/X, E/0867/X, E/0902/X,<br />

E/0921/X, E/0942/X, E/0590/X,<br />

E/0590/X, E/0590/X, E/0765/X,<br />

G/0327/X, G/1192/X, G/1214/X,<br />

G/1254/X, G/0132/X, G/0132/X,<br />

G/0759/X, H/1196/X, H/0534/X,<br />

H/1348/X, H/0310/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/1179/X, H/0941/X, H/0959/X,<br />

H/0220/X, H/0515/X, H/1042/X,<br />

H/1140/X, J/1051/X, K/0444/X,<br />

K/1241/X, L/0513/X, L/0507/X,<br />

L/1026/X, L/0865/X, L/0791/X,<br />

M/0101/X, M/0852/X, M/1383/X,<br />

M/0463/X, N/1352/X, N/1268/X,<br />

N/1297/X, P/0642/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0316/X, P/1218/X,<br />

P/1219/X, P/1237/X, P/1239/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1272/X, P/0804/X,<br />

P/0889/X, P/0890/X, P/0899/X,<br />

P/1066/X, P/0577/X, P/0492/X,<br />

P/0491/X, Q/0091/X, Q/0177/X,<br />

Q/0157/X, Q/0517/X, Q/0333/X,<br />

Q/0856/X, Q/0206/X, Q/0210/X,<br />

Q/1232/X, Q/1252/X, Q/0824/X,<br />

There is no indicati<strong>on</strong> as to how <strong>the</strong> local authority will publicise <strong>the</strong> list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> core paths, nor<br />

what <strong>the</strong> criteria <strong>the</strong>y will use to establish <strong>the</strong>se. (A/0098/X)<br />

The idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a core path network is sound but I can foresee a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> problems. They<br />

would really have to be fenced <strong>on</strong> both sides to remove any claims for liability from <strong>the</strong><br />

land manager. (B/0280/X)<br />

Enclosed land around cities, towns and villages will be most affected by <strong>the</strong>se proposals,<br />

yet <strong>the</strong>se are <strong>the</strong> areas where access takers will be most at risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> injury. Therefore in<br />

my opini<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly resp<strong>on</strong>sible access to such land should be by <strong>the</strong> core path network,<br />

set up and maintained by <strong>the</strong> local authority who should also accept liability for people<br />

using <strong>the</strong>se paths. (B/0704/X)<br />

The document does not give enough informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> future <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> core paths network.<br />

Particularly in relati<strong>on</strong> to who has ultimate resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for: How landowners will be able<br />

to input to <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> core path network. The provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths. The<br />

maintenance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths. Who sets <strong>the</strong> standards for <strong>the</strong> core path network. Resp<strong>on</strong>sibility<br />

for any accidents <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> paths. Where <strong>the</strong> financial burdens will lie for developmen,<br />

upkeep, legal acti<strong>on</strong> etc. (E/1246/X)<br />

Land managers must not be penalised by loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> subsidies if land is d<strong>on</strong>ated to <strong>the</strong> core<br />

path network. A reward would be more appropriate. (G/1192/X)<br />

The rate <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> core path networks will vary across Scotland and <strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong><br />

is likely to change fairly rapidly during <strong>the</strong> implementati<strong>on</strong> phase. There is a danger that<br />

this situati<strong>on</strong> will cause c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> particularly for visitors and c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> should be<br />

given to establishing some form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> nati<strong>on</strong>al informati<strong>on</strong> system which will reflect <strong>the</strong><br />

changing positi<strong>on</strong> quickly and effectively. (P/0889/X)<br />

Core Paths are first menti<strong>on</strong>ed within Parangraph 2.2 and no definiti<strong>on</strong> is provided for<br />

<strong>the</strong>se, it would be benficial to do so. (P/0642/X)<br />

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Signage<br />

Rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Way / traditi<strong>on</strong>al<br />

Access<br />

Q/1232/X, Q/1252/X, Q/0824/X,<br />

Q/0866/X/d, Q/1178/X, Q/1061/X,<br />

Q/0424/X, Q/0517/X, Q/0479/X,<br />

Q/0697/X/d, R/1221/X, R/1256/X,<br />

R/1276/X, R/0910/X, V/0245/X,<br />

V/1285/X, W/0071/X, W/0080/X,<br />

W/0052/X, W/0056/X, W/0143/X,<br />

W/0348/X/d, W/0367/X, W/0618/X,<br />

W/0635/X, W/0641/X, W/0644/X,<br />

W/0108/X, W/0173/X, W/0503/X,<br />

W/0276/X, W/0278/X, W/0328/X,<br />

W/0334/X, W/0853/X, W/0855/X,<br />

W/0539/X, W/0541/X, W/0561/X,<br />

W/0669/X/d, W/1014/X, W/1021/X,<br />

W/1342/X, W/1343/X, W/0198/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/1319/X, W/1202/X,<br />

W/1217/X, W/1220/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1260/X/d, W/1263/X, W/1264/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/1289/X, W/1052/X/d,<br />

W/1235/X, W/0812/Y, W/0815/X,<br />

W/0822/X, W/0836/X, W/0870/X,<br />

W/0880/X/d, W/0881/X, W/0887/X,<br />

W/1166/X, W/1171/X, W/0991/X,<br />

W/1000/X, W/0955/X, W/0944/X,<br />

W/0951/X, W/0962/X/d, W/1123/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0614/X, W/0130/X/d,<br />

W/0229/X, W/0231/X, W/0429/X,<br />

W/0432/X, W/0435/X, W/0489/X,<br />

W/0489/X, W/0489/X, W/0693/X,<br />

W/0702/Y, W/0705/X, W/0766/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0781/X, W/0792/X,<br />

W/0799/X, W/1034/X, W/1139/X,<br />

W/1149/X, W/1357/, X/0637/X,<br />

X/0639/X, X/0640/X, X/0652/X,<br />

<strong>the</strong> emphasis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> guidance to land managers focuses <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informati<strong>on</strong><br />

through signage. We are c<strong>on</strong>cerned that <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a 'sign culture' will lead to<br />

widespread apathy and subsequently reduce effectiveness. (E/0616/X)<br />

It is important that Farmers and Landowners are aware that signs can be used<br />

legitimately and most <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> us are looking for assistance from Local Authorities and SNH <strong>on</strong><br />

standard signs in order to help and inform. B/1347/X)<br />

Paragraph 4.18 appears to ignore <strong>Scottish</strong> Office advice <strong>on</strong> preventing rural crime.<br />

"Cultivating Crime Preventi<strong>on</strong> in Rural Scotland" recommends warning signs such as<br />

"Beware Guard Dogs". Perhaps SNH could suggest suitable notices which would protect<br />

remote and vulnerable premises without intimidating access takers. (L/0513/X)<br />

A nati<strong>on</strong>al standard to any signage would be welcomed and it would be important that<br />

such signs have full details <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>m, e.g. start and finish dates, nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> work,<br />

alternative route(s), c<strong>on</strong>tact numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible pers<strong>on</strong> to enable fur<strong>the</strong>r informati<strong>on</strong><br />

to be obtained etc. (P/0287/X)<br />

A field identificati<strong>on</strong> system should be introduced whereby <strong>the</strong> Land Manager can "label"<br />

a field thus identifying <strong>the</strong> crops <strong>the</strong>rein. ( /1375/ )<br />

Where a public right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way passes through a farmyard, under <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

horse riders would not be able to pass through, unless <strong>the</strong> route was part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> core<br />

path network. This will affect quite a few well used horse routes in my areas, as all <strong>the</strong><br />

rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way are asserted as pedestrian <strong>on</strong>ly. (A/0440/X/d)<br />

I certainly would not want <strong>the</strong> fact that people use <strong>the</strong> farm road to access <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside to eventually establish a right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way or core path. Unless this can be easily<br />

clarified I will probably request that people go around <strong>the</strong> farmyard, which is not <strong>the</strong> most<br />

practical soluti<strong>on</strong>. (B/1146/X)<br />

Clause 2.20 - With all <strong>the</strong> additi<strong>on</strong>al rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access that <strong>the</strong> Act and code will create,<br />

and <strong>the</strong> creati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a core path networks, would it not be more balanced if it was also<br />

possible to formally apply to disc<strong>on</strong>tinue an old Right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Way. (E/0921/X)<br />

S. 2.19 ad 2.20 refer to …public rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way …; however, <strong>the</strong> Code does not explain<br />

whe<strong>the</strong>r this refers solely to <strong>the</strong> small proporti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way which have been<br />

vindicated or asserted, or to <strong>the</strong> wider network, including claimed rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way. Clarity<br />

<strong>on</strong> this aspect would be helpful. (V/0245/X)<br />

S.2.20: "All public rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way will c<strong>on</strong>tinue to exist." It would be helpful to define <strong>the</strong><br />

circumstances under which new rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way may be c<strong>on</strong>stituted in <strong>the</strong> future.<br />

(W/0887/X)<br />

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Shared use<br />

X/0664/X, X/1353/X, X/1212/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/1036/X, X/0811/X,<br />

X/0888/X, X/1174/X, X/0937/X,<br />

X/0939/X, X/1067/X, X/0495/X,<br />

X/0495/X, X/0495/X, X/0784/X,<br />

X/1056/X, X/1380/ .<br />

There is no advice specifically for <strong>the</strong> managers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land specifically for public access -<br />

LDRs, Country Parks, footpath networks etc - who by <strong>the</strong>ir very nature are encouraging<br />

and promoting public access but who in a variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> circumstances may have very sound<br />

reas<strong>on</strong>s for wishing to modify (or indeed restrict) <strong>the</strong> acti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access takers in <strong>the</strong><br />

interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r users, or <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resource itself.(W/0108/X)<br />

There are many situati<strong>on</strong>s where very narrow paths, which have been designed purely<br />

for walking, will now attract cyclists who will endanger pedestrians. I am c<strong>on</strong>cerned that<br />

<strong>the</strong> proliferati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> mountain biking will not <strong>on</strong>ly cause danger to such pedestrians but<br />

severe damage to paths and <strong>the</strong>re should be some distincti<strong>on</strong> in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> routes which<br />

are suitable for cycling and horse riding and those which are pedestrian <strong>on</strong>ly. (B/0118/X)<br />

It would <strong>the</strong>refore appear it would be reas<strong>on</strong>able for a land manager to exclude riders <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> grounds that a track was not suitable with <strong>the</strong> result that damage would occur but<br />

this has not yet been <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear in <strong>the</strong> Code. It should be. (E/1257/X)<br />

The rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horse-riders. As far as possible paths should be seen as multi-use; Will<br />

SUSTRANS and landowners prevent horse-riders using certain paths/land for access?<br />

………… P.41 (2nd point) deals with this issue and it would be helpful to clarify that <strong>the</strong><br />

statement relates to horse riders and also what is meant by 'o<strong>the</strong>r well-used routes'.<br />

(N/1268/X)<br />

Will any stile, for example, be c<strong>on</strong>sidered to be a barrier to horse or cycle access, and<br />

thus have to be replaced by something else. Even when in <strong>the</strong> view <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager<br />

or Ranger <strong>the</strong> land or path bey<strong>on</strong>d is unsuitable for cycle or horse use? (W/0108/X)<br />

What specificati<strong>on</strong>s will apply to "core paths"? Will <strong>the</strong>y fall under <strong>the</strong> Disability<br />

Discriminati<strong>on</strong> Act? These points have arisen from c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> scenarios <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Motability cars (e.g. modified Ford Escorts) seeking access al<strong>on</strong>g moorland or lochside<br />

tracks to attractive recreati<strong>on</strong>al destinati<strong>on</strong>s.(X/1036/X)<br />

Tracks / roads In terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> vehicular access <strong>the</strong>re is no clear definiti<strong>on</strong> as to what c<strong>on</strong>stitutes<br />

established vehicular rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way. Does this include all internal roads and tracks<br />

throughout an Estate? If <strong>the</strong>se tracks and roads are utilised by <strong>the</strong> public who is<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong> wear and tear and who pays for <strong>the</strong> work required to maintain <strong>the</strong>m?<br />

(B/0964/X)<br />

On Page 23 paragraph 2.2. …… <strong>the</strong>re should be a better definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> word "track",<br />

particularly as <strong>the</strong>re are access rights given <strong>on</strong> tracks but not <strong>on</strong> roads as listed in<br />

paragraph 2.15. The difference between <strong>the</strong> two should be explained e.g. are roads<br />

defined as those adopted by <strong>the</strong> Local Authorities, or is <strong>the</strong> difference <strong>the</strong> surfacing i.e.<br />

tracks are unsurpassed while roads have a hard finish. A definiti<strong>on</strong> is required because<br />

private roads that are surfaced are frequently used for gaining access to <strong>the</strong> countryside,<br />

but <strong>the</strong> Code could rule <strong>the</strong>se <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f limits to access rights. (P/0491/X)<br />

Planning It should not be permissible to object to a development <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> grounds that <strong>the</strong> land<br />

required will be removed from that available for access. There must be a diversi<strong>on</strong><br />

process for Core Paths. (B/1271/X)<br />

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Developers bringing people into <strong>the</strong> countryside should be forced to c<strong>on</strong>tribute to funds<br />

for core paths to serve local residents(B/0931/X/d)<br />

...if land is now affected by access rights will this affect <strong>the</strong> ability to get planning<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> for activities which involve restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> access (e.g. golf courses, etc or<br />

can we open an arboretum and charge for access)? Landowner would need permissi<strong>on</strong><br />

to restrict access rights in order to do a new activity.(H/0959/X)<br />

In general, <strong>the</strong> Code seems to provide no guidance <strong>on</strong> how <strong>the</strong> public can resp<strong>on</strong>d to<br />

changes in land use and rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way etc., as new developments take place, especially<br />

housing schemes. Perhaps <strong>the</strong> issue here is <strong>the</strong> questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> how <strong>the</strong> Access Code<br />

engages with planning processes. (Q/0424/X)<br />

Commercial publicati<strong>on</strong>s Code should include guidance <strong>on</strong> un<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficial guide books - i.e. guidance <strong>on</strong> what should<br />

and should not be produced. This should also apply to web sites. There is an issue with<br />

<strong>the</strong> increasing number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walking books/guides which appear to be written without<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sulting with <strong>the</strong> landowner(H/0959/X)<br />

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Issue Educati<strong>on</strong> Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

273<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

General points – positive<br />

A/0400/X, A/0111/X, A/0097/X,<br />

A/0289/X, A/1194/X, A/0661/X,<br />

A/0442/X, A/0290/X, A/0825/X,<br />

A/0838/X, A/0841/Y, A/0871/X,<br />

A/1070/X/d, A/0724/X, A/0762/X,<br />

A/0796/X/d, A/1037/X, B/0032/X,<br />

B/0033/X, B/0142/X, B/0361/X/d,<br />

B/0631/X, B/0638/X/d, B/0645/X,<br />

B/0085/X, B/0167/X, B/0505/X,<br />

B/0338/X/d, B/0270/X, B/0288/X/d,<br />

B/0306/X, B/0312/X, B/0322/X,<br />

B/0859/X, B/1187/X, B/0565/X,<br />

B/0672/X, B/0680/X, B/1017/X,<br />

B/1019/X, B/1341/Z/d, B/0257/X,<br />

B/0215/X, B/0462/X, B/0956/X,<br />

The successful implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code hinges <strong>on</strong> this interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 'rights and<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities'. A wide spread programme <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> publicity and educati<strong>on</strong> need to be<br />

promoted so that both users and land managers are aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> each o<strong>the</strong>r's role in this<br />

area. (A/0289/X)<br />

The appropriate level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> understanding which should go hand in hand with access rights<br />

to farm land and wild areas cannot be learnt from a leaflet or a display board, but ra<strong>the</strong>r<br />

is developed through experience and observati<strong>on</strong> over a period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> time. (B/0760/X)<br />

Very simply, people would apply for a licence to access ra<strong>the</strong>r like a driving licence. …..<br />

The licence <strong>the</strong>y obtain would be needed to be carried when enjoying access over o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

people's land and <strong>the</strong>y would be asked to produce it if asked by a land manager. People<br />

who broke <strong>the</strong> code, ......would have <strong>the</strong>ir licences removed.... (B/1049/X)<br />

A major thrust <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> publicity will be to explain <strong>the</strong> complexity and evolving nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Code. As <strong>the</strong> Code's purpose is to define 'resp<strong>on</strong>sible', we must be prepared to review,<br />

change or re-define those parts that do not work in practice. (P/1219/X)<br />

General points – negative B/1303/X/d, B/1309/X, B/1313/X,<br />

B/1328/X, B/0446/X, B/0512/X/d,<br />

B/1205/X, B/1250/X, B/1266/X,<br />

B/1269/X, B/1281/X, B/1288/X,<br />

B/1292/X, B/0801/X, B/0819/X,<br />

B/0834/X, B/0875/X, B/0884/X,<br />

B/1161/X, B/1168/X, B/1173/X,<br />

B/1176/X, B/0995/X, B/0996/X,<br />

B/1004/X, B/0942/X/d, B/0943/X,<br />

B/0945/X, B/0946/X, B/0969/X,<br />

B/1062/X, B/1083/X/d, B/1089/X,<br />

B/1096/X, B/1101/X, B/0574/X,<br />

B/0574/X, B/0594/X, B/0599/X/d,<br />

B/0049/X, B/0127/X, B/0127/X,<br />

B/0223/X, B/0236/X, B/0409/X,<br />

B/0419/X, B/0436/X, B/0510/X,<br />

B/0404/X, B/0481/X, B/0481/X,<br />

B/0683/X, B/0741/X, B/0754/X,<br />

B/0755/X, B/0756/X, B/0760/X,<br />

B/0760/X, B/1045/X, B/1049/X,<br />

B/1142/X, B/1147/X, B/1108/X,<br />

As <strong>the</strong> Code states, <strong>on</strong> page 60, something must be d<strong>on</strong>e to 'promote recreati<strong>on</strong>'. I see<br />

no signs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> real will and urgency <strong>on</strong> this matter though. (A/0290/X)<br />

The usual old chestnut beloved <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> lazy thinkers is "educati<strong>on</strong>". Get <strong>the</strong> teachers to teach<br />

pupils to teach <strong>the</strong> countryside with respect, and all will be well - no more vandals. The<br />

reality is, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> course, that <strong>the</strong> teachers can't dot it all - many indeed know little <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside <strong>the</strong>mselves, and care less; (A/0871/X)<br />

It is understood <strong>the</strong>re is to be a significant educati<strong>on</strong>al programme surrounding <strong>the</strong><br />

launch <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code for which we have not been provided with a modus operandii.<br />

(B/1019/X)<br />

The <strong>draft</strong> Code is founded <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> assumpti<strong>on</strong> that individuals will be able to take<br />

informed decisi<strong>on</strong>s as to <strong>the</strong>ir acti<strong>on</strong>s. This may not always be <strong>the</strong> case, a recent press<br />

report suggested that many individuals knowledge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> agriculture is extremely limited. If<br />

informed decisi<strong>on</strong>s are not possible <strong>the</strong>n resp<strong>on</strong>sible access is also not possible.<br />

(B/0512/X/d)<br />

I notice in para 3.7 that you expect land mangers and/or <strong>the</strong>ir rangers to promote<br />

understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code. I find this presumptuous in <strong>the</strong> extreme. (B/1250/X)<br />

It is <strong>the</strong> duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> SNH and LAs to promote an understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code. What is<br />

going to happen if you FAIL to promote an understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code? Can we as<br />

landowners sue you for loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> earnings? (B/1266/X)<br />

Educati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> behaviour in <strong>the</strong> countryside will <strong>on</strong>ly be heard by those who want to hear<br />

and who already behave resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (X/0128/X)<br />

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Timing<br />

Resources<br />

Support<br />

B/1114/X/d, B/1127/X/d, D/0521/X,<br />

D/1340/X, D/0978/X, D/1206/X,<br />

D/1065/X, E/0616/X, E/0536/X,<br />

E/0208/X, E/1201/X, E/1245/X,<br />

E/1257/X, E/0877/X, G/1099/X,<br />

G/0806/X, G/0973/X, G/0584/X/d,<br />

G/0584/X, G/0132/X, G/0132/X,<br />

H/0154/X, H/0552/X, H/1222/X,<br />

H/1276/X, H/0310/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/1103/X, H/0915/X, H/1179/X,<br />

H/0988/X, H/0941/X, H/0959/X,<br />

H/0615/X, H/0615/X, H/0220/X,<br />

H/0460/X, H/0515/X, H/1042/X,<br />

H/1140/X, K/1302/X, K/0714/X,<br />

L/0527/X, L/0507/X, M/0852/X,<br />

M/0463/X, P/0640/X, P/0643/X,<br />

P/0646/X, P/0115/, P/0274/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/0384/X/d, P/1219/X,<br />

P/0287/X, P/1273/X, P/1273/X,<br />

P/1296/X, P/0890/X, P/0575/X,<br />

P/0575/X, P/0575/X, P/0577/X,<br />

P/0492/X, Q/0016/X, Q/0517/X,<br />

Q/0304/X, Q/0309/X, Q/0256/X,<br />

Q/1270/X, Q/1286/X, Q/1346/X,<br />

Q/1165/X, Q/0932/X, Q/0232/X,<br />

Q/0517/X, Q/0517/X, Q/0790/X,<br />

R/1221/X, R/1256/X, R/1278/X,<br />

R/0868/X, R/1090/X, T/0911/X,<br />

What is required is nothing short <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a culture change <strong>on</strong> all sides. This will require<br />

educati<strong>on</strong>al and promoti<strong>on</strong>al activity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> highest quality and a c<strong>on</strong>siderable period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

time to achieve. Substantial investment will also be necessary. (H/1179/X)<br />

It is likely that <strong>on</strong>ly <strong>the</strong> l<strong>on</strong>g-term educati<strong>on</strong> programme will actually make a difference<br />

here. (P/0643/X)<br />

The introducti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rangers and guides to help promote resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour and an<br />

appreciati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> countryside, is vital. (B/0760/X)<br />

It will <strong>the</strong>refore be in <strong>the</strong> best interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> every<strong>on</strong>e involved - access takers, land<br />

managers and not least, <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Exevutive, if <strong>the</strong>re is an adequately funded nati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

publicity campaign which helps people in <strong>the</strong> expanding walking market to understand<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities to <strong>the</strong> countryside and land managers how <strong>the</strong>ir rights and<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities are affected by <strong>the</strong> Access Bill. (H/0552/X)<br />

...it is essential that SNH provide sufficient funding for <strong>the</strong> educati<strong>on</strong> programme and <strong>the</strong><br />

extensi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> hill ph<strong>on</strong>e system. (H/1042/X)<br />

It may be that we could assist in <strong>the</strong> disseminati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> document to our members and<br />

visitors from overseas by having copies available at our hostels. (D/0521/X)<br />

Snowsport Scotland has a key role in educati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> coaches and young people and is<br />

keen to play our part in <strong>the</strong> forthcoming educati<strong>on</strong> and awareness process. (D/0978/X)<br />

SSE suggest that SNH address <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public educati<strong>on</strong> and resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour<br />

and in relati<strong>on</strong> to access to water adjacent to our works, SSE would welcome input into<br />

defining <strong>the</strong> issues and being involved in identifying suitable soluti<strong>on</strong>s. (E/1245/X)<br />

As an executive <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Youth Parliament, can we be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any help to <strong>the</strong> process<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> publicising <strong>the</strong> code, particularly to young people? (L/0507/X)<br />

[Page] 64 3.7 Again no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> wider role <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> LA's in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Corporate<br />

Communicati<strong>on</strong> Strategy departments (marketing/media/press/educati<strong>on</strong>) - <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly<br />

reference is to Ranger Services & Access Officers. This is too narrow a focus to reach<br />

<strong>the</strong> widest possible audience. (P/1273/X)<br />

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Methods<br />

U/0363/X, U/0922/X, U/1172/X,<br />

V/1285/X, W/0034/X, W/0066/X,<br />

W/0071/X, W/0080/X, W/0047/X,<br />

W/0056/X, W/0140/X, W/0147/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0644/X, W/0108/X,<br />

W/0168/, W/0529/X, W/0271/X,<br />

W/0318/X, W/0857/X, W/0669/X/d,<br />

W/1010/X, W/1012/X, W/1315/,<br />

W/1202/X, W/1224/X, W/1227/X/d,<br />

W/1264/X, W/1265/X, W/1282/X,<br />

W/1287/X, W/0242/X, W/1235/X,<br />

W/0836/X, W/0882/X, W/0886/X,<br />

W/1151/X, W/0991/X, W/0999/X,<br />

W/1001/X/d, W/0955/X, W/0957/X,<br />

W/1085/X, W/1102/X/d, W/1123/X,<br />

W/0581/X, W/0581/X, W/0581/X,<br />

W/0614/X, W/0124/X, W/0217/X,<br />

W/0231/X, W/0464/X, W/0700/X,<br />

W/0705/X, W/0720/X, W/0767/X,<br />

W/0770/X/d, W/0776/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/1149/X, W/1109/X, W/1111/X,<br />

W/1116/X, W/1373/, X/0002/X,<br />

X/0196/X, X/0664/X, X/1339/X,<br />

X/1212/X, X/1298/X, X/0099/X,<br />

X/1385/X, X/1036/X, X/1171/X,<br />

X/0939/X, X/0495/X, X/0727/X,<br />

X/0784/X, X/1056/X, X/1115/X.<br />

Include schools in publicising Access Code - can it be included in Nati<strong>on</strong>al Curriculum<br />

(eg in Pers<strong>on</strong>al Development, Civics, PE or wherever <strong>the</strong>re is an appropriate link<br />

depending <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Curriculum <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> day?) (A/0825/X)<br />

Provide <strong>the</strong> public with informati<strong>on</strong> at key access points - <strong>the</strong> public can co-operate with<br />

you <strong>on</strong>ly if <strong>the</strong>y know what you want!. (A/0838/X)<br />

A full, well-funded and l<strong>on</strong>g-lasting campaign <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public educati<strong>on</strong> is required <strong>on</strong><br />

televisi<strong>on</strong>, radio, cinema and press. (B/0167/X)<br />

By using <strong>the</strong> Internet as a notice board it would be possible to allow land managers to<br />

post warnings and to outline specific areas, paths or fields which were to be avoided and<br />

give reas<strong>on</strong>s. Members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public wishing to go <strong>on</strong> private land could, and should be<br />

encouraged by you, to check <strong>the</strong> area <strong>the</strong>y intend to be in for any warnings or exclusi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

and, indeed, could <strong>the</strong>reby obtain <strong>the</strong> manager's co-ordinates in case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> emergencies or<br />

to pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fer <strong>the</strong> simple courtesy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> warning that <strong>the</strong>y intended to camp <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> land or to<br />

come through it with a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horses..(B/0270/X)<br />

Adults are most difficult. TV advertising? Countryside problems aired in soaps. The<br />

cost <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> litter collecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear to <strong>the</strong> rate payer. The c<strong>on</strong>sequence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se being<br />

cut down, fences cut, gates left open. (B/1127/X/d)<br />

Awareness <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access code will <strong>on</strong>ly be achieved through educati<strong>on</strong>. <strong>Outdoor</strong><br />

Educati<strong>on</strong> Centres can play a key role in educating young people in this area.<br />

(D/1065/X)<br />

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Specific educati<strong>on</strong> /<br />

training for target groups<br />

Could more dog-wardens be appointed please? I would like to know that <strong>the</strong>y would<br />

give Talks to school-children and groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> adults………dog owner and dog-walkers<br />

could be encouraged to be much more resp<strong>on</strong>sible than <strong>the</strong>y are at present. (A/0762/X)<br />

There is a need for land manager led training programmes for access <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers and<br />

rangers for access takers. SNH and Local Authorities need this practical hands <strong>on</strong><br />

training up at <strong>the</strong> sharp end to understand land manager's points <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> view before <strong>the</strong>y can<br />

be c<strong>on</strong>sidered competent to guide and advise o<strong>the</strong>rs (B/0142/X)<br />

The SLF and its members would be pleased to assist in any training that can help to<br />

raise awareness and understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land management am<strong>on</strong>gst those who work in<br />

access. We are c<strong>on</strong>cerned at a lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> understading <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> basic land management activities<br />

am<strong>on</strong>g some access <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers, and that this lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> knowledge can lead to poor decisi<strong>on</strong><br />

making (H/1103/X)<br />

An awareness raising campaign focussing <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> issues <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dog ownership would be very<br />

useful. (K/0714/X)<br />

Historic Scotland, <strong>the</strong> Council for <strong>Scottish</strong> Archaeology, Local Council and local<br />

archaeologists have an important educati<strong>on</strong>al role to play here. (L/0527/X)<br />

There is no substantive menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled people, ei<strong>the</strong>r to make <strong>the</strong><br />

disabled community aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> potential <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> new law to increase <strong>the</strong>ir opportunities.<br />

(M/0463/X)<br />

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Issue M<strong>on</strong>itoring resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour / reviewing <strong>the</strong> Code Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

27<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Need to review Code /<br />

comments <strong>on</strong> review<br />

process<br />

A/0825/X, A/0469/X, A/0796/X/d,<br />

A/1037/X, B/1301/X, B/1269/X,<br />

B/1083/X/d, E/0616/X, H/1103/X,<br />

H/1128/X, M/0852/X, P/1296/X,<br />

P/0640/X, P/0889/X, Q/0501/X,<br />

Q/0445/X, Q/1286/X, R/1278/X,<br />

W/0641/X, W/0857/X, W/1010/X,<br />

W/1315/, W/0614/X, W/0789/X,<br />

W/1130/X, X/1298/X, X/0099/X.<br />

(The review) process should also be open to public c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> with any proposed<br />

changes widely publicised. O<strong>the</strong>rwise <strong>the</strong>re is a str<strong>on</strong>g possibility that interests inimical<br />

to <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> may try to unduly influence <strong>the</strong> review process to impose<br />

restricti<strong>on</strong>s by <strong>the</strong> back door, so to speak. (A/0469/X)<br />

The Code must be kept under review, in order to assess how effective its messages are<br />

and how effective <strong>the</strong> educati<strong>on</strong> programme is. It would be useful to have a major review<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code's effect in 3-4 years time. (H/1103/X)<br />

Argyll & Bute Council would <strong>the</strong>refore like to suggest that <strong>the</strong> Code be reviewed after a<br />

period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 4/5 years following approval and implementati<strong>on</strong>. (P/1296/X)<br />

The supplementary informati<strong>on</strong> currently included in <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document, if not<br />

part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code, would not require such approval procedures and would be much easier<br />

to amend and revise in light or experience. sportscotland c<strong>on</strong>siders, however, that <strong>the</strong><br />

supplementary guidance, explanati<strong>on</strong> and informati<strong>on</strong> that would be included in a code<br />

document would require <strong>the</strong> approval <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> SNH's main board, in c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> with <strong>the</strong><br />

Access Forum, as would any subsequent amendments to it. (R/1278/X)<br />

I note that <strong>the</strong> Code must be reviewed from time to time. I approve <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this: experience<br />

will show up weaknesses and I hope that <strong>the</strong>se will be sorted out before precedents<br />

become established practices. It is most important to get things as right as possible from<br />

Need to m<strong>on</strong>itor<br />

effectiveness <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> educati<strong>on</strong><br />

programme / impacts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access<br />

<strong>the</strong> outset. (W/0641/X)<br />

The <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code will provide an acceptable reference point provided <strong>the</strong><br />

appropriate arrangements are set up by <strong>the</strong> Local Authorities to m<strong>on</strong>itor what is actually<br />

taking place <strong>on</strong>ce it comes into force. (A/0796/X/d)<br />

...it will be important to ga<strong>the</strong>r informati<strong>on</strong> about experience <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> operati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> new<br />

access rights and procedures for dealing with <strong>the</strong> (inevitable) cases <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> misuse which will<br />

arise; and if it seems that procedures need streng<strong>the</strong>ning, to be ready to amend <strong>the</strong><br />

Code (or even <strong>the</strong> Law) appropriately. (Q/0445/X)<br />

The SCA recommends a full review <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> social and ec<strong>on</strong>omic impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this new<br />

access code <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> communities and envir<strong>on</strong>ment two years after implementati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(M/0852/X)<br />

Ideally, <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> should make allowance, say, two/three years after being passed,<br />

for a comprehensive review <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> access code from all perspectives, with<br />

<strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> hindsight, if <strong>on</strong>ly to ir<strong>on</strong> out anomalies. (W/0857/X)<br />

If this legislati<strong>on</strong> is to go through <strong>the</strong>re should be at least a two year running in period to<br />

allow for modificati<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> light <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> experience. It must not be "cast in st<strong>on</strong>e". (W/1010/X)<br />

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Issue Resp<strong>on</strong>dents commending <strong>the</strong> points <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> by o<strong>the</strong>r organisati<strong>on</strong>s Number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

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Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Answer Category Main Resp<strong>on</strong>dents Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

A/0369/X/d, A/0846/X, A/0601/X,<br />

A/0723/X, A/0753/X, B/0148/X,<br />

B/0361/X/d, B/0383/X, B/0060/X,<br />

B/0117/X, B/0860/X, B/1022/X,<br />

B/1323/X, B/0839/X, B/1160/X,<br />

B/1064/X, B/1094/X, B/0596/X,<br />

B/0218/X, B/0493/X, B/0757/X,<br />

B/0760/X, D/1340/X, G/0854/X,<br />

G/0665/X, G/1155/X, G/1386/Y,<br />

G/0759/X, H/0552/X, J/0004/X,<br />

J/1259/X, J/1051/X, M/1258/X,<br />

N/1120/X, Q/0930/X, Q/0526/X,<br />

R/0763/X, W/0307/X, W/0999/X,<br />

W/0427/X, W/0776/X, W/1116/X,<br />

X/0509/Y, X/0813/X.<br />

I would commend <strong>the</strong> comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Mountaineering Council <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland. (A/0723/X)<br />

We c<strong>on</strong>cur with <strong>the</strong> views expressed to you already by <strong>Scottish</strong> Golf Ltd. (B/0660/X)<br />

As a land manager I support <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>ses <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> organisati<strong>on</strong>s with which I am involved<br />

- SLF, ADMG, SWRoss DMG. (B/0361/X/d)<br />

would like to add my pers<strong>on</strong>al support to <strong>the</strong> submissi<strong>on</strong> put in by <strong>the</strong> NFUS. I agree<br />

with every point <strong>the</strong>y <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>. (W/0999/X)<br />

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Detailed comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in resp<strong>on</strong>se to Questi<strong>on</strong>s 21 and 22<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 : Interpreting <strong>the</strong> rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities: a practical guide<br />

Table showing Places / Sporting / O<strong>the</strong>r Recreati<strong>on</strong>al Activities.<br />

21. Do you think that Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 provides clear sensible, practicable guidance for those exercising access rights and to land managers? If<br />

you think it could be improved, please tell us in what way.<br />

Places:<br />

Canals<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Dams<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for<br />

those exercising access rights.<br />

Specific advice <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> effect and issues <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to water<br />

by different user groups should be provided as part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

detailed development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fur<strong>the</strong>r access informati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Special c<strong>on</strong>sidertati<strong>on</strong> should be given to <strong>the</strong> operati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

inland waterways such as <strong>the</strong> Caled<strong>on</strong>ian Canal<br />

(P/1300/X)<br />

Advises users to give way to motorised craft… this is<br />

exactly <strong>the</strong> opposite to <strong>the</strong> usual rule that <strong>the</strong> powered<br />

craft gives way to sail or paddle driven craft. (W/0641/X)<br />

Many reservoirs have open access <strong>on</strong> dams, so how do<br />

you know which can be used? (B/0409/X)<br />

There are a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> inc<strong>on</strong>sistencies in <strong>the</strong> code in that<br />

Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for land<br />

managers.<br />

Horses have safely ridden many parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> towpath system for<br />

over 30 years. BW should be more proactive in <strong>the</strong>ir attitude to<br />

public access and work with local authorities to use towpaths as<br />

links in <strong>the</strong> Core Path Network. There are many place where this<br />

is possible. (G/1251/X)<br />

As it currently reads, <strong>the</strong> advice to land managers implies that<br />

you cannot exercise access rights in some areas <strong>on</strong> canals<br />

…..<strong>the</strong> advice should be revised to read informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> how<br />

people can best exercise access rights. (R/1278/X)<br />

The less intensively managed <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fside banks <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> canals are<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sidered to be important wildlife corridors, particularly in <strong>the</strong><br />

Central Belt. Regular and formalised access to <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fside could<br />

compromise this functi<strong>on</strong>. (X/0896/X)<br />

A useful summary, which should be adhered to by managers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

dams - this should hopefully put an end to barbed wire fences<br />

across perfectly safe footpaths over dams. (A/0098/X)<br />

Dams. I find this c<strong>on</strong>fusing - if access rights do not apply <strong>the</strong>n<br />

<strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by land managers is<br />

incorrect. Land managers should be encouraged to permit<br />

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Farmyards<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

lands such as farmyards and dams, which are specifically<br />

excluded from access rights, are never<strong>the</strong>less included in<br />

<strong>the</strong> code as routes that can be taken in certain<br />

circumstances. (B/1199/X)<br />

If <strong>the</strong> access rights do not apply to dams <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong><br />

summary guide should not c<strong>on</strong>fuse <strong>the</strong> issue. Accordingly<br />

access is not permitted unless <strong>the</strong> land manager's c<strong>on</strong>sent<br />

has been obtained. (B/1240/X)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> dams and o<strong>the</strong>r locati<strong>on</strong>s where statutory<br />

access rights do not apply should make it clear that access<br />

is comm<strong>on</strong>ly taken <strong>the</strong>re under existing customary<br />

freedoms and this will c<strong>on</strong>tinue subject to being exercised<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (G/0831/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> should make it clear that it refers to <strong>the</strong><br />

statutory access rights granted under <strong>the</strong> Act, especially<br />

where <strong>the</strong> guidance suggests that no access rights exist in<br />

some situati<strong>on</strong>s (e.g Dams). (G/0920/Y)<br />

The phrase 'a safe distance’ is used again for 'Access<br />

where <strong>the</strong>re are farm animals': what is a safe distance?<br />

(A/0658/X/d)<br />

Feel that <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> farmyards could lead to some<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> ie "Access rights do not extend to farmyards"<br />

….<strong>the</strong>n list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ways <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> taking access through farmyard.<br />

The paragraphs "In going ….those living <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> farm"<br />

should be in bold. (B/1093/X)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> farmyards and o<strong>the</strong>r locati<strong>on</strong>s where<br />

statutory access rights do not apply should make it clear<br />

that access is comm<strong>on</strong>ly taken <strong>the</strong>re under existing<br />

curtomary freedoms and this will c<strong>on</strong>tinue subject to being<br />

exercised resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. (G/0831/X)<br />

access providing <strong>the</strong>re aren't any specific safety issues.<br />

(B/0672/X)<br />

Dams - … we believe that <strong>the</strong> exclusi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to<br />

dams is appropriate in most cases and should be extended to<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir associated structures. However, we accept that in some<br />

cases, safety issues can be looked at. Bearing in mind that <strong>the</strong><br />

access legislati<strong>on</strong> refers to water, advice should be given <strong>on</strong><br />

avoiding areas where turbulence can occur. (E/1246/Y)<br />

Access to valves and sluices may require to be restricted if <strong>the</strong>re<br />

is a high risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> vandalism or a terrorist threat. (X/0896/X)<br />

Unless with <strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> farmer no access to farmyards<br />

should be allowed. (B/1161/X)<br />

The code should clearly state that being in or close to a farmyard<br />

or dwelling, without good reas<strong>on</strong> or permissi<strong>on</strong>, or <strong>the</strong> existence<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an existing right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way, would be regarded as giving rise to<br />

<strong>the</strong> suspici<strong>on</strong> that a crime was being ei<strong>the</strong>r committed or<br />

planned. (B/0404/X)<br />

Access through farmyards, even <strong>on</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> way, should be<br />

stopped. (B/0446/X)<br />

The encouragement to land managers to "c<strong>on</strong>tinue to allow<br />

access" should be deleted. (B/0525/X/d)<br />

Rambling Associati<strong>on</strong>s, Government agencies etc could fund<br />

paths etc, around farmyards and utilise current farm roads where<br />

appropriate with agreement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> farmer or landowner. This<br />

gives <strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a rural partnership creating better access<br />

which benefits every<strong>on</strong>e ra<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>the</strong> government legislati<strong>on</strong><br />

taking a stick to reluctant land managers. (B/0593/X)<br />

Menti<strong>on</strong> should also be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> dangers outside <strong>the</strong> strict<br />

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Field margins<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Menti<strong>on</strong> should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> that dogs be kept <strong>on</strong> short leads<br />

to avoid wildlife disturbance (B/0409/X)<br />

Set aside fields, strips, end rigs and beetlebanks should<br />

have restricted access. (B/0638/X/d)<br />

For those like ourselves, close to livery yards and riding<br />

schools with no amount <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land attached, it is likely that<br />

field margins will become heavily trafficked. ….. It would<br />

be greatly beneficial to both landowners and pedestrians if<br />

a variety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> limitati<strong>on</strong>s are included to prevent unnecessary<br />

damage, e.g. limited access according to wea<strong>the</strong>r and field<br />

c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s, limited speeds (for <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r access<br />

users as well as preserving <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> margin).<br />

(B/0845/X).<br />

What is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> much greater c<strong>on</strong>cern is that <strong>the</strong> business will<br />

be able to charge its customers to take <strong>the</strong>m for a nice<br />

hack <strong>on</strong> my farm - 6 or 8 at a time? - including all over my<br />

field margins. I have some very attractive field margins<br />

namely 6 metre wide beetlebanks and lovely grass riparian<br />

areas, all under <strong>the</strong> aegis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Rural Stewardship<br />

Scheme. When <strong>the</strong>se are damaged... by <strong>the</strong> steel shod<br />

hooves <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> horses, from whom my neighbour is making<br />

m<strong>on</strong>ey but I am not… not <strong>on</strong>ly will <strong>the</strong> wildlife suffer but<br />

SEERAD might very well take <strong>the</strong> view that I am in breach<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my obligati<strong>on</strong>s under <strong>the</strong> RSS. (B/0925/X)<br />

...insufficient guidance is given as to what c<strong>on</strong>stitutes a<br />

field margin and what is resp<strong>on</strong>sible in such<br />

c<strong>on</strong>fines <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> steadings e.g. some animal handling facilities, silage<br />

pits, muck middens, stacks <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bales, etc. (H/1196/X)<br />

There should be menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ts and cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>tland<br />

(P/1247/X)<br />

A practical point ……a stream <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people asking permissi<strong>on</strong> may<br />

in itself be disruptive and invasive <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> privacy……has<br />

c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> been given to <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> standard signage?<br />

(X/1056/X)<br />

more <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten than not fields are sown/planted right up to <strong>the</strong> field<br />

boundary with no possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access without potential damage<br />

to crops….. suitable margins should be provided. (A/0820/X)<br />

Access round field margins - This should <strong>on</strong>ly be necessary<br />

when <strong>the</strong>re is no suitable alternative. ….. The width <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this<br />

margin … should certainly not exceed 2 metres (B1091/X).<br />

No. There are direct c<strong>on</strong>tradicti<strong>on</strong>s - e.g. page 47 - Field<br />

Margins: Resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by land managers - leave a field<br />

margin … to support wildlife: Resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by public:<br />

exercise access rights around field margins. These two are<br />

incompatible. (B/0167/X)<br />

There should be provisi<strong>on</strong> for restricting general access to field<br />

margins at certain times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> year. (B/1164/X)<br />

...it is incompetent to advise people to take access around field<br />

margins when <strong>the</strong> same margin may be receiving SEERAD<br />

funding as a managed c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> feature under a c<strong>on</strong>tractual<br />

oligati<strong>on</strong>, where damage to <strong>the</strong> feature may give rise to penalties<br />

against <strong>the</strong> landowner. (E/0616/X)<br />

where field margins are managed for wildlife <strong>the</strong>re should be an<br />

opportunity to protect <strong>the</strong>se areas from disturbance. There is no<br />

reference to what is an acceptable width for a field margin. This<br />

will cause c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> and c<strong>on</strong>flict if c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> is not given to<br />

this and guidance provided. (H/1103/X)<br />

It must be clear in <strong>the</strong> code that a field margin is <strong>the</strong> area<br />

between <strong>the</strong> crop and <strong>the</strong> field boundary and does not include<br />

any <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> crop. (W/1139/X)<br />

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Fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grass etc<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

circumstances. For instance does <strong>the</strong> field margin include<br />

<strong>the</strong> crop or merely <strong>the</strong> area between crop and boundary?<br />

In many situati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>the</strong> field margin is a prime wildlife site.<br />

(B/0834/X)<br />

Field Margins: The advice for 'extra care' particularly for<br />

cyclists …. .should be removed. (G/1098/X)<br />

Nei<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> Act nor <strong>the</strong> Code indicate how wide a field<br />

margin is expected to be. We recommend that <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

recommends that, from a public access point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> view, this<br />

can be c<strong>on</strong>sidered to be up to 5 metres in width. This<br />

would be <strong>the</strong> area within which, if damage were to occur to<br />

a crop during <strong>the</strong> taking <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access, it would not be deemed<br />

"irresp<strong>on</strong>sible". ... A width <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 5 metres for margins would<br />

be comparable to <strong>the</strong> width <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> headrigs and endrigs and<br />

<strong>the</strong> width <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> headlands and o<strong>the</strong>r existing<br />

special management schemes for field margins.<br />

(G/1291/X)<br />

It seems strange that <strong>the</strong>re is no way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> protecting some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong>se habitats against <strong>the</strong> disturbance caused, even<br />

unintenti<strong>on</strong>ally, by people walking, riding or cycling through<br />

<strong>the</strong>m. The code should emphasise more that paths should<br />

always be used in preference to wildlife corridors and field<br />

margins for this reas<strong>on</strong>. (W/0822/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> code should state whe<strong>the</strong>r or not walking <strong>on</strong> planted<br />

land is or is not resp<strong>on</strong>sible in a case where a) <strong>the</strong> walker<br />

remains as close as possible to <strong>the</strong> margin <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> that planted<br />

land and b) <strong>the</strong> margin is not sufficiently wide for <strong>on</strong>e<br />

pers<strong>on</strong> to walk al<strong>on</strong>g it without c<strong>on</strong>tact with a bounding<br />

hedge or wall or without risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> slipping into a bounding<br />

drain or burn or <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> causing material to fall into <strong>the</strong> drain<br />

etc. (W/0977/X/d)<br />

The length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> silage that requires respect is too l<strong>on</strong>g. In<br />

clause 3.29 200 mm should be reduced to 100 mm or at<br />

<strong>the</strong> very most 150 mm. Regular passage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people will<br />

Page 47 - "Places" - "Fields" (3 entries). There seems to be no<br />

appreciati<strong>on</strong> that leaving any width <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> field margin involves a<br />

potential financial penalty for farmers in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> lost producti<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Therefore, ra<strong>the</strong>r than a directi<strong>on</strong>, "Wherever possible, leave a<br />

field margin ..." it might be more reas<strong>on</strong>able to say “ C<strong>on</strong>sider<br />

leaving a field margin..” (W/0848/X)<br />

To allow access to hay and silage fields except when it is at a<br />

late stage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> growth is subjective and penalises <strong>the</strong> farmer's<br />

margin. I defy any layman to tell me what is late stage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> growth.<br />

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stop grass ever growing as high as 200 mm. (B/0840/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re should be a reference here to newly sown grass,<br />

and this should be excluded from <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access, as it<br />

is very susceptible to damage in <strong>the</strong> early stages <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

growth. (B/0574/X)<br />

Being a tiny seed, crops <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> newly sown grass are very<br />

susceptible to damage. These crops should not be open<br />

to access. (B/0879/X)<br />

The Code should emphasise that access users should<br />

take all litter home. It is correct to point out that rubbish<br />

could cause injury to farm animals but it is also worth<br />

highlighting that it can damage farm machinery resulting in<br />

expensive repairs. (B/1240/X)<br />

Access rights should also not apply to newly cut hay or<br />

silage. …a newly cut field … immediately entered by dog<br />

walkers who think nothing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> allowing fouling which ends<br />

up baled (B/1303/X/d)<br />

I know a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> farmers who will not allow horses to<br />

graze silage fields after <strong>the</strong> silage has been cut, due to <strong>the</strong><br />

high incidence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horse shoes becoming detached, <strong>on</strong>ly to<br />

be picked up in <strong>the</strong> next year's cut silage. A horse shoe<br />

going through a forage harvester can cause a very<br />

expensive repair. It is just as likely that horses riding<br />

across a silage field can lose <strong>the</strong> occasi<strong>on</strong>al shoe. ... It<br />

would surely be reas<strong>on</strong>able to suggest in <strong>the</strong> Access<br />

Code, that whilst walkers are welcome to use silage fields,<br />

after <strong>the</strong> crop is taken, horses should refrain from doing<br />

so. (E/0765/X)<br />

Grass grown for hay or silage is a crop, it should be<br />

treated as a crop and access not permitted. (H/0552/X)<br />

The guidance ….. is clear and helpful. A similar issue<br />

c<strong>on</strong>cerns grass grown for turf…… guidance <strong>on</strong> avoiding<br />

damaging this crop …. should be included in <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

(P/0869/X)<br />

Fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grass for hay and silage - Horses need to be<br />

excluded at an earlier stage than walkers, as <strong>the</strong>ir hooves<br />

can raise divots which may allow soil to be introduced to<br />

<strong>the</strong> final silage crop, with subsequent serious disease risks<br />

C<strong>on</strong>sequently I suggest that it should be treated as crops and<br />

access limited to <strong>the</strong> margins. (B/0183/X)<br />

Is it ever possible not to ‘leave a field margin’? It should perhaps<br />

say: "leave an accessible field margin". (U/0922/X)<br />

Newly sown and young grass is a very tender crop which is<br />

easily damaged particularly in wet c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s. ….. Why do you<br />

suppose <strong>the</strong>se fields are shut <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f in <strong>the</strong> first place? It is to give<br />

<strong>the</strong> crop <strong>the</strong> best chance to grow and regrow in what in <strong>the</strong><br />

highlands is a short and problematical seas<strong>on</strong> (W/1102/X/d).<br />

We would endorse <strong>the</strong> view <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ting Foundati<strong>on</strong>,<br />

that <strong>the</strong> automatic right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access over cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ting in-bye should be<br />

removed and <strong>the</strong> in-bye should be treated in <strong>the</strong> Code in a similar<br />

way to a farmyard. (X/1298/X)<br />

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Fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> growing<br />

crops<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

to animals eating <strong>the</strong> silage. (U/0922/X)<br />

An additi<strong>on</strong>al criteri<strong>on</strong> for whe<strong>the</strong>r a grass field is in fact for<br />

hay or silage should be added. Because modern farm<br />

mowing equipment shaves <strong>the</strong> ground very closely, hay<br />

and silage fields are always rolled at an early stage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

growth to flatten out divots, wheel tracks and push down<br />

st<strong>on</strong>es, making in <strong>the</strong> process what <strong>the</strong> public can easily<br />

recognise as 'stripey grass'. The public should be asked<br />

to avoid such fields, even if <strong>the</strong> grass has not yet reached<br />

ankle height. (A walker entering such a field may not do<br />

much harm, but cyclists and horses could potentially undo<br />

some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> work <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> roller, thus making more likely <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>taminati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> cut grass with earth, with <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>sequent development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Listeria in <strong>the</strong> silage - fatal to<br />

sheep and horses, and causing 'silage eye' in cattle.)<br />

(W/0108/X/d)<br />

I would agree with 'ankle height' for avoiding damage to<br />

silage - but not with <strong>the</strong> 8 inches; more like six for most<br />

ankles. (W/1023/X)<br />

…access to something like a standing st<strong>on</strong>e in <strong>the</strong> middle<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten requires walking up tractor ruts or al<strong>on</strong>g<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r gaps where crops are not growing. This should be<br />

included in <strong>the</strong> Code. (A/0968/X)<br />

...extremely c<strong>on</strong>cerned about <strong>the</strong> granting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

access across crops. Most members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public cannot<br />

identify <strong>the</strong> difference between wheat, barley and grass.<br />

The Code must give clear guidance <strong>on</strong> this and what to do<br />

if <strong>the</strong>re is doubt. (B/0801/X)<br />

3.28 makes clear that crops must not be damaged. It is<br />

however impossible to tell what lies beneath a few inches<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> snow and winter sown crops are frequently thus hidden.<br />

C<strong>on</strong>siderable damage will be caused to crops under snow<br />

by <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sloping fields for sledging or skiing by<br />

perfectly well intenti<strong>on</strong>ed, resp<strong>on</strong>sible but ignorant people.<br />

Better to exclude all land reserved for crops. (B/0563/X)<br />

.. birds are reared by ourselves in specific areas. There are<br />

serious safety implicati<strong>on</strong>s with regard to disease, fire and<br />

explosi<strong>on</strong> (artificial heat is provided by Propane Gas). We<br />

believe, <strong>the</strong>refore, that access rights should not apply to <strong>the</strong>se<br />

areas and this should be set out clearly ... Once <strong>the</strong> game birds<br />

have been reared to a specific age, typically six weeks or more,<br />

<strong>the</strong>y are gradually acclimatised to <strong>the</strong> wild. Initially <strong>the</strong>y are kept<br />

in fairly large fenced areas, ei<strong>the</strong>r in woods or more open<br />

country, and are gradually given <strong>the</strong>ir freedom. Disturbance at<br />

this stage could have serious c<strong>on</strong>sequences for <strong>the</strong> wellbeing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> birds, and could result in many deaths, and <strong>the</strong>refore we<br />

again feel that access rights should not apply to <strong>the</strong>se particular<br />

areas. ... in game cover plots where crops have been planted<br />

specifically to provide suitable habitat. It is assumed that <strong>the</strong>se<br />

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Fields where crops<br />

are being sprayed<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

(B/0925/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> Code should clearly state that crop tramlines or<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r similar areas left unplanted for access do not<br />

c<strong>on</strong>stitute a path or track. (B/1125/X)<br />

"For human c<strong>on</strong>sumpti<strong>on</strong>" is not quite what <strong>the</strong> issue is<br />

about. It is <strong>the</strong> immediacy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sumpti<strong>on</strong> and <strong>the</strong><br />

requirement for <strong>the</strong> fruit or vegetable to be c<strong>on</strong>sumed in an<br />

unaltered state. A grain from a cereal crop might<br />

ultimately be for human c<strong>on</strong>sumpti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a<br />

biscuit or beer, but it will be subjected to a l<strong>on</strong>g process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

refinement, whereas a cabbage or strawberry could be in a<br />

shop within a few days. Once again, this gradati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crops could be better explained. (G/1099/X)<br />

... The Code should explain that it is not resp<strong>on</strong>sible to<br />

take access al<strong>on</strong>g tramlines. Tramlines do not provide<br />

c<strong>on</strong>venient access opportunities, and in particular <strong>the</strong>y<br />

may serve to 'lure' people into irresp<strong>on</strong>sible access - if<br />

some<strong>on</strong>e starts to follow a tramline, thinking it will lead<br />

<strong>the</strong>m across <strong>the</strong> field, <strong>the</strong>y may decide (as <strong>the</strong> tramline<br />

sweeps round) to cut across <strong>the</strong> crop to <strong>the</strong> fence, ra<strong>the</strong>r<br />

than follow <strong>the</strong> tramline to its end. (H/1103/X)<br />

Sown crops will be difficult to see if not through <strong>the</strong><br />

ground. Horses could prove to be damaging but again<br />

difficult to see a sown crop before it is through <strong>the</strong> ground.<br />

(W/0972/X)<br />

An independent scientific adviser should suggest how l<strong>on</strong>g<br />

people need to avoid areas after particular chemicals have<br />

been applied - bearing in mind most users just walk quickly<br />

through a field and d<strong>on</strong>'t roll around in it. (A/0425/X)<br />

A field spread with slurry may be safe to walk thro' but not<br />

to picnic in, but when is it safe?… Where in <strong>the</strong> code does<br />

it warn not to chew <strong>on</strong> a piece <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> grass in case it has been<br />

sprayed or have slurry <strong>on</strong> it? (B/0446/X)<br />

For example, in <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields where crops are being<br />

areas would be classified as "growing crops" and excluded under<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 2.15, but it would be helpful if <strong>the</strong>y were directly referred<br />

to. (F/0748/X)<br />

Picnics - It's not just lime and slurry that ruin <strong>the</strong> sandwiches.<br />

Fertilizers, sprays, dung also curl up <strong>the</strong> cucumber. We have to<br />

assume that <strong>the</strong> public are pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>oundly ignorant <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what we get up<br />

to and it is quite dangerous to single out a couple <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> hazards.<br />

Almost safer not to menti<strong>on</strong> any. (B/0142/X)<br />

More advice should be given <strong>on</strong> crop spraying, however <strong>the</strong><br />

issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signage is c<strong>on</strong>flicting as land managers are being told<br />

not to put up signs restricting access. (B/0613/X)<br />

Fields where crops are being sprayed - in <strong>the</strong> majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cases it<br />

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Fields which are<br />

being ploughed etc<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Fields with calves<br />

or lambs present<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

sprayed and advice from land managers to avoid such<br />

areas, to say 'Following such advice can greatly minimise<br />

risks to safety', provides no firm directi<strong>on</strong>. It should simply<br />

say - 'It is resp<strong>on</strong>sible to follow such advice'. (B/0574/X)<br />

If <strong>on</strong>e sees spraying going <strong>on</strong>, even neighbouring fields<br />

may not be far enough away, depending <strong>on</strong> wind speed,<br />

and especially if <strong>the</strong>re is a sudden change in wind. I think<br />

a distance from <strong>the</strong> field edge is required, probably<br />

>100m. (V/0851/X)<br />

The spray used may pose a health risk to a dog drinking<br />

rainwater after warning notices have been removed.<br />

Access can be over fence or dyke out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> visibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

notices. (W/1235/X)<br />

Fields being sprayed: putting <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> notice <strong>the</strong> material<br />

being used will mean nothing to 99% <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public. A more<br />

general statement, say pesticide, herbicide, fertilizer may<br />

be more readily understood - but I suspect by a minority.<br />

The term fertilizer may scare some. The simple term<br />

'treated' and keep away for so l<strong>on</strong>g may be better. But .....<br />

A potato crop may be treated weekly for weeks!<br />

(V/0851/X)<br />

"Fields ….being ploughed …." …. The <strong>on</strong>us should be <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> access user (or local authority) to seek guidance from<br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager. (B/1096/X)<br />

We suggest that <strong>the</strong>re will be c<strong>on</strong>fusi<strong>on</strong> over when it is a<br />

crop and when it is not. To avoid this situati<strong>on</strong> and, given<br />

that in most cases access users will be able to follow an<br />

alternative route or a field margin, reference to access to<br />

newly sown crops and to crops in <strong>the</strong> process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> being<br />

harvested should be deleted. (B/1240/X)<br />

Calves & lambs - (calves and lambs should be c<strong>on</strong>sidered<br />

separately). It is unnecessary to have a wholesale<br />

would be unreas<strong>on</strong>able to expect land managers to provide<br />

informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> materials used and <strong>the</strong> risk period. Who decides<br />

where it is rep<strong>on</strong>sible to display <strong>the</strong> informati<strong>on</strong>? Who pays for<br />

staff to be available to inform access users? We suggest <strong>the</strong><br />

summary guide states that in most cases it will be impracticable<br />

to provide informati<strong>on</strong>. (B/1240/X)<br />

..in large fields <strong>the</strong> provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informati<strong>on</strong> is a major additi<strong>on</strong>al<br />

burden to <strong>the</strong> farmer. The principal difficulty is identifying <strong>the</strong><br />

potential sources <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> entry to <strong>the</strong> field by <strong>the</strong> access taker. … It<br />

may ..be c<strong>on</strong>strued that providing informati<strong>on</strong> relating to what has<br />

been sprayed and with what <strong>on</strong>ly at field entrances is insufficient,<br />

given that for large enclosures where a gate or access point may<br />

not be immediately visible to an access taker, access may be<br />

taken over any part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> field enclosure. (E/0516/X)<br />

Fields where crops are being sprayed - this type <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> closure<br />

should ideally be negotiated to agree an appropriate period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

closure, or alternatively be given a maximum time period <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>, say,<br />

3 days, to minimise disrupti<strong>on</strong> to those exercising resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

access. (P/1239/X)<br />

The wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> advice about ploughing, sowing etc, at <strong>the</strong> top<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> p48 seems to suggest that land managers have a duty to<br />

plough etc as little as possible and as fast as possible! This is<br />

presumably just unfortunate wording and needs amending.<br />

(W/0614/X)<br />

The "minimum required" should be <strong>the</strong> farmer's decisi<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(W/1170/X)<br />

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changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

restricti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> access where <strong>the</strong>re are (calves &) lambs. It<br />

should be possible for <strong>the</strong>re to be temporary restricti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

during <strong>the</strong> first few weeks after <strong>the</strong> young animals are<br />

born, but <strong>the</strong>reafter, access should be open to resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

people. .....a blanket ban <strong>on</strong> dogs is unreas<strong>on</strong>able and<br />

unnecessary........... However <strong>the</strong>re does need to be better<br />

recogniti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> increasing danger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> taking access<br />

through fields with cattle. (A/1136/X/d)<br />

By general c<strong>on</strong>sent, cows with young calves at foot are<br />

unpredictable, likewise cows "at <strong>the</strong> drop." A cow in this<br />

state can kill! It must be menti<strong>on</strong>ed that cows do not<br />

always distinguish between dogs and small children - and<br />

<strong>the</strong> result could be serious. (B/0209/X)<br />

The dates for lambing are misleading. Even in <strong>the</strong> central<br />

belt <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland lambing well into May and lambs are very<br />

vulnerable to harassment from dogs up until June.<br />

(B/0840/X)<br />

A calving field or <strong>on</strong>e that c<strong>on</strong>tains cows and calves is just<br />

not a safe place for <strong>the</strong> inexperienced. (B/1334/X)<br />

The dangers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cows with calves need more explanati<strong>on</strong><br />

and access-takers should be advised never to walk<br />

through fields c<strong>on</strong>taining cows and young calves (even<br />

without dogs) (H/1196/X)<br />

Fields with calves or lambs - need to define field, as some<br />

large but never<strong>the</strong>less enclosed areas have lambs or<br />

calves and it would be unreas<strong>on</strong>able to ask dog walkers to<br />

stay out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> whole area. (P/0548/X)<br />

When is a lamb not a lamb? The code needs to clearly<br />

define this so <strong>the</strong>re are fewer misunderstandings. I think it<br />

is important to distinguish when is <strong>the</strong> 'close to lambing'<br />

time period. Is this period to be just before lambs are born<br />

and just after? Lambs in our area are now about two<br />

m<strong>on</strong>ths old - can I assume it is now fine to cross a field<br />

with lambs? (W/0110/X)<br />

Heavily pregnant female animals <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any species. e.g.<br />

mares, goats, sows etc. should never be disturbed for any<br />

needless reas<strong>on</strong>. Nei<strong>the</strong>r should free range poultry, e.g.<br />

hens, turkeys, geese, ducks. Also, it should be noted that<br />

...no provisi<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> code for brood mares and foals eg in 3.37<br />

(lambs, calves or sheep close to lambing). (B/0965/X/d)<br />

How are people going to know if sheep are in lamb, or how near<br />

<strong>the</strong>y are to lambing? … You <strong>the</strong>refore need a closed seas<strong>on</strong> for<br />

walking through fields with sheep from October to April, and this<br />

should be clearly stated. (B/1190/X)<br />

We recommend that for a limited time (3 weeks?) at lambing<br />

landowners / managers can put up a sign to say that no dog<br />

access will be c<strong>on</strong>sidered resp<strong>on</strong>sible at this time <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> year. There<br />

needs to be a specific amendment to secti<strong>on</strong>s talking about fields<br />

(which should state 'land') where lambs and calves are present.<br />

(H/0959/X)<br />

Lambs and calves are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten present <strong>on</strong> comm<strong>on</strong> grazings and<br />

open hill grazing (W/1111/X).<br />

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Fields with o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

livestock<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

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changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

any animal defending young can be dangerous and how<br />

do you know when? Even a gander or cockerel can cause<br />

c<strong>on</strong>siderable damage (W/0812/).<br />

Guidance should be to walkers, with or without dogs, to<br />

avoid enclosed fields with livestock at all times but, should<br />

it be necessary to be in <strong>the</strong> same field, walkers should<br />

have in <strong>the</strong>ir mind an emergency 'exit strategy'. Livestock<br />

can be dangerous animals. (A/0658/X/d)<br />

The code gives no guidelines for those exercising access<br />

near horses and p<strong>on</strong>ies in fields. (B/0241/X)<br />

The comm<strong>on</strong> sense approach would be to state simply<br />

that, as a general rule, it is undesirable and inappropriate<br />

to enter fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock, particularly with a dog. Such<br />

guidance could <strong>the</strong>n be accompanied by informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong><br />

how to hold to account any land manager who was thought<br />

to be using livestock unfairly to divert access takers from a<br />

habitual route. (B/0628/X)<br />

It is my belief that <strong>the</strong> Code should recommend that<br />

access across fields with young stock and bulls is<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible (particularly with a dog), to avoid <strong>the</strong> potential<br />

c<strong>on</strong>flicts that could ensue (B/0801/X).<br />

Deer farms. These should surely be out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bounds for<br />

walkers and dogs. Stag are dangerous at rutting time. If<br />

deer are frightened <strong>the</strong>y could charge <strong>the</strong>ir enclosure<br />

fence and break out. (B/0830/X)<br />

Fields with o<strong>the</strong>r Livestock. Do not ride a horse through a<br />

field c<strong>on</strong>taining grazing horses. (G/1251/X)<br />

Helpful if <strong>the</strong> code included guidance in relati<strong>on</strong> to horses,<br />

particularly for walkers, cyclists and horse riders passing<br />

through fields with horses in <strong>the</strong>m. (P/0889/X)<br />

There is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r livestock such as pigs, which<br />

are very dangerous, as well as <strong>the</strong> serious health<br />

implicati<strong>on</strong>s if people go near or through fields <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pigs…<br />

What about all <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>rs eg. deer, ostrich, wild boar?<br />

Farmed deer can be highly dangerous……C<strong>on</strong>tact local access<br />

forum for by-pass paths. (H/0310/X)<br />

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Forests and woods<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

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suggested:<br />

Requires broadening public thinking away from just cattle<br />

and sheep. (U/0922/X)<br />

Anybody entering a field after dark c<strong>on</strong>taining livestock,<br />

but particularly for example cows with calves or a bull, is<br />

taking a very foolish and unnecessary risk. (W/0618/X)<br />

Add "You must accept <strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> going through a field with<br />

livestock, which under certain circumstances, is<br />

c<strong>on</strong>siderable". (X/0122/X)<br />

..extra guidance should be provided <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> issue. "Cattle<br />

can attack small children as well as dogs, <strong>the</strong>refore, care<br />

should be taken to avoid taking children into fields with<br />

cattle and calves". This should be added to <strong>the</strong> final code.<br />

A dog <strong>on</strong> a short lead in a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cattle still presents a<br />

danger; it should be fur<strong>the</strong>r stressed that cattle without<br />

calves and outwith <strong>the</strong> period menti<strong>on</strong>ed in <strong>the</strong> code can<br />

still attack dogs. (P/0492/X)<br />

I approve <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> statement that horses and cycles keep to<br />

suitable paths. (W/0641/X)<br />

Unlimited access should not be allowed in woodlands. It<br />

must always be by prior agreement. (B/0638/X/d)<br />

In relati<strong>on</strong> to woods near urban settlements, dogs should<br />

be kept <strong>on</strong> leads and pers<strong>on</strong>s and dogs should keep to <strong>the</strong><br />

paths if <strong>the</strong> wildlife purpose is to be maintained (B/0956/X)<br />

There should be restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> access where a substantial<br />

proporti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> trees are thinner or shorter than walking<br />

sticks. If a complete ban is not feasible <strong>the</strong>re should be a<br />

recommendati<strong>on</strong> to go very carefully if crossing recently<br />

planted areas, and if possible to go round <strong>the</strong> edge.<br />

Running or riding should count as vandalism. (B/1094/X)<br />

Access takers are told not to hinder operati<strong>on</strong>s and follow<br />

any signs or alternative routes provided. However it<br />

makes no reference to whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong>y would be<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible not to do so. (E/0516/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re needs to be greater reference to forestry in SOAC<br />

for example menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> keeping away from sawmills (which<br />

come in all manner <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> shapes and sizes), leaving<br />

machinery and equipment (anything from a timber<br />

Forestry should c<strong>on</strong>stitute a growing crop to which permissible<br />

access does not apply (B/1089/X).<br />

SNH's interpretati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> secti<strong>on</strong> 6 (10) that a forestry crop <strong>on</strong>ly<br />

applied to trees in a nursery is clearly incorrect. Nor is it<br />

acceptable as it fails to give protecti<strong>on</strong> to young trees planted out<br />

from such a nursery and facing tougher c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s in <strong>the</strong> forest.<br />

We are c<strong>on</strong>cerned that such vulnerable property as trees <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> up to<br />

two metres in height should be properly protected. (E/1257/X)<br />

A number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our clients in particular forest owners have indicated<br />

alarm at <strong>the</strong> potential for horse riders making use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> forest paths<br />

and causing damage <strong>the</strong>reby. ..... (E/0351/X)<br />

Where possible, provide paths and o<strong>the</strong>r facilities to help people<br />

to exercise access rights resp<strong>on</strong>sibly. - Who Pays?<br />

(W/0708/X/d)<br />

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Gate, fences etc<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

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suggested:<br />

harvester to fire beaters) untouched or being aware that<br />

woodland deer stalking <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten takes place in <strong>the</strong> early<br />

morning <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> late evening.(E1257/X)<br />

We would recommend horses do not access areas with<br />

unsurfaced paths without permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager.<br />

(K/0444/X)<br />

Forests and woods with deer management operati<strong>on</strong>s -<br />

Deer c<strong>on</strong>trol takes place within forests all year round (see<br />

annex 2) <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten at dawn and dusk. Generally <strong>the</strong>re are no<br />

special provisi<strong>on</strong>s required by those taking resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

access. Follow any signs and notices which may be<br />

provided. (R/1256/X)<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r users such as walkers, cyclists and horse riders<br />

need to be aware and understand that <strong>the</strong>y must anticipate<br />

multiple usage <strong>on</strong> forest roads and behave accordingly.<br />

(R/1256/X)<br />

Forest and woods - wildlife not so visible but probably<br />

more <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it and so important to watch your dog particularly<br />

in <strong>the</strong> breeding seas<strong>on</strong>. (W/0629/X)<br />

Forests and woods - to ensure health & safety compliance,<br />

guidance should be that access takers must follow local<br />

guidance <strong>on</strong> alternative routes. (W/1112/X)<br />

The access taker should utilise styles/gates where<br />

possible to avoid damaging walls and fences. (H/0515/X)<br />

yes emphasises <strong>the</strong> need to leave gates as <strong>the</strong>y are<br />

found. (Q/0828/X)<br />

I feel you are wr<strong>on</strong>g in suggesting that crossing fences is<br />

acceptable behaviour when <strong>the</strong>re is no o<strong>the</strong>r alternative.<br />

Fences are expensive devices that have been c<strong>on</strong>structed<br />

by farmers and landowners to ei<strong>the</strong>r keep stock enclosed<br />

or to exclude wild animals that can damage crops. These<br />

fences have never been designed to withstand humans<br />

crossing <strong>the</strong>m. You have suggested in your forum that<br />

perhaps it could be re-worded to suggest crossing at<br />

strainer posts. This too is wr<strong>on</strong>g as walkers would still<br />

have to climb <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> wires, which would loosen <strong>the</strong> post,<br />

loosen <strong>the</strong> staples, stretch <strong>the</strong> wires and butterfly<br />

Provided an electric fence is signed, and <strong>the</strong> live wire is <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

field side <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> fence, <strong>the</strong>re is surely no problem. Similarly, if<br />

barbed wire is used next to a path, it should be <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> field side<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> fence. .. There is, however, a problem with electric fencing<br />

and barbed wire where <strong>the</strong>y are used <strong>on</strong> a deer fence or high<br />

(locked) gate, and no stile is provided. (A/0098/X)<br />

At present <strong>the</strong>re are miles <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> barbed wire and electric fences<br />

beside paths. Mostly this is not a problem. (A/1037/X)<br />

The type <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fencing used <strong>on</strong> a farm needs to be appropriate to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trolling <strong>the</strong> livestock kept. Hill cows, and in particular stock<br />

bulls, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten necessitate <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> both barbed wire and electric<br />

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tensi<strong>on</strong>ers, and risk holing rabbit nets... There is no<br />

alternative o<strong>the</strong>r than ramblers c<strong>on</strong>tacting <strong>the</strong>ir Local<br />

Council and asking for funding for a gate or style to be<br />

inserted in <strong>the</strong> fence... Farmers can not and will not<br />

tolerate damage and inc<strong>on</strong>venience to <strong>the</strong> fence first, as<br />

an indicati<strong>on</strong> to its need for a gate... If gates are needed<br />

<strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y should be funded by <strong>the</strong> public purse.<br />

(B/0069/X)<br />

Fences are not designed for access to and from but are for<br />

keeping things in or out. C<strong>on</strong>tinued crossing over fences<br />

will damage <strong>the</strong>m at <strong>the</strong> farmer's cost and also it reduces<br />

<strong>the</strong> chance for <strong>the</strong> public to see notices <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> warning at key<br />

locati<strong>on</strong> e.g <strong>the</strong> gate. (B/0141/X)<br />

The new code should make people aware that locked<br />

gates are not necessarily to keep people out, but<br />

principally to keep stock in. (B/0257/X)<br />

I would like to see an additi<strong>on</strong> here recommending that<br />

walkers search for <strong>the</strong> nearest gate or style which may be<br />

several hundred yards al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> fence (you could define<br />

<strong>the</strong> maximum acceptable distance between gates and<br />

styles). If <strong>the</strong>y have to climb a fence <strong>the</strong>y should do so<br />

next to a straining post and should be liable for any<br />

damage <strong>the</strong>y do. (B/0260/X)<br />

Access takers should never climb over fences, dykes or<br />

hedges. Particularly with walls and hedges it is inevitably<br />

going to cause damage, and with fences if regularly used.<br />

(B/0288/X/d)<br />

Rabbit and Deer Fences -These are very critical for<br />

forestry and horticultural areas. People should be warned<br />

not to damage <strong>the</strong>m. If <strong>the</strong>re is a rabbit pro<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gate, shutting<br />

it properly requires care. Paths with stiles should be used.<br />

Fenced areas within woods are likely to c<strong>on</strong>tain young<br />

trees. … Closing Gates - Any<strong>on</strong>e taking groups should<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sider how to get gates left as you find <strong>the</strong>m This can<br />

best be d<strong>on</strong>e by <strong>the</strong> pers<strong>on</strong> opening <strong>the</strong> gate waiting to<br />

close it (he will know how it is fastened) (B/1094/X)<br />

I believe that it is clearly <strong>the</strong> rep<strong>on</strong>sibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all people to<br />

leave gates closed unless <strong>the</strong>y are clearly signposted to<br />

fencing to c<strong>on</strong>trol <strong>the</strong>m. I believe <strong>the</strong>re is nothing in <strong>the</strong><br />

legislati<strong>on</strong> which allows for <strong>the</strong> code to involve itself in <strong>the</strong><br />

running <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> agricultural enterprises as l<strong>on</strong>g as suitable access<br />

points are included in <strong>the</strong> fence line. As such I c<strong>on</strong>sider that this<br />

suggesti<strong>on</strong> should be removed completely from <strong>the</strong> code.<br />

(B/0670/X)<br />

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Golf courses<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

be left open. That is <strong>the</strong> policy <strong>on</strong> this farm. (B/1146/X)<br />

I would like to see a reference here saying that if a fence<br />

or dyke is accidentally damaged, it is a resp<strong>on</strong>sibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

access taker to take every effort to find and inform <strong>the</strong> land<br />

manager, so that <strong>the</strong> fault can be rectified as so<strong>on</strong> as<br />

possible. (X/0664/X)<br />

It should be explained that many st<strong>on</strong>e dykes are<br />

comparatively fragile, and that if <strong>the</strong>y are climbed over,<br />

<strong>the</strong>y can quite easily collapse, which can cause injury to<br />

he who climbs over <strong>the</strong>m, and <strong>the</strong> gaps thus created can<br />

cause havoc to <strong>the</strong> farmer, and <strong>the</strong> gap is not always easy<br />

to repair. It is <strong>the</strong>refore better not to climb over dykes but<br />

to find a gate, and <strong>on</strong> hill farms gates are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten fairly<br />

delicate, so that care has to be taken and if holes are<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in st<strong>on</strong>e dykes or gates fall to pieces, <strong>the</strong> damage<br />

should be reported to <strong>the</strong> farmer. (E/0086/E)<br />

Hedges are plants. It is not possible to "climb over" a<br />

hedge, and to breach <strong>on</strong>e would be nothing short <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

vandalism. Hedges should be excluded from this secti<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(W/0777/X)<br />

It is important that <strong>the</strong> Code acknowledges that a<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible land manager will erect a barrier for a reas<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Fences, hedges and dykes can be used to protect public<br />

from unsafe areas… The Code should also advise that<br />

members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public must make <strong>the</strong>mselves aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> risks associated with climbing over an obstacle prior to<br />

becoming fully commited to landing <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r side.<br />

(X/0896/X)<br />

Generally acceptable to fair-minded people but some<br />

detail development needed e.g.fences and walls are not<br />

generally intended to facilitiate access. (X/1212/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> golf seems OK (I am a golf club member).<br />

(A/0723/X)<br />

The limitati<strong>on</strong> is to golf greens. We would suggest that<br />

fairways, tees and bunkers are also "prepared for a<br />

particular recreati<strong>on</strong>al use". … With regard to winter<br />

activities, this should be left to individual golf clubs.<br />

..it is unclear when reading parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code that access rights<br />

<strong>on</strong> golf courses are restricted to crossing from <strong>on</strong>e point to<br />

ano<strong>the</strong>r and DO NOT include <strong>the</strong> right to undertake any o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong>. ... In <strong>the</strong> advice to both <strong>the</strong> public and land<br />

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(B/0012/X)<br />

Fairways <strong>on</strong> golf courses, particularly when <strong>the</strong>y are s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t,<br />

should not be subjected to traffic from narrow wheels.<br />

(Cycles, prams) (B/0012/X)<br />

The Code is also not generally str<strong>on</strong>g enough in advising<br />

that best practice in crossing over or passing around a golf<br />

course is to follow defined paths wherever possible. … In<br />

subsecti<strong>on</strong> 3.3 .. "a single interrupti<strong>on</strong> by an individual or a<br />

group, such as <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a golf game” ..... we find this example to<br />

be unhelpful in clarifying resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour. It ignores<br />

<strong>the</strong> cumulative impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such interrupti<strong>on</strong>s to <strong>the</strong> playing<br />

and enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> game <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> golf ... We would suggest a<br />

more appropriate way to proceed is to outline that it is<br />

recognised that people exercising <strong>the</strong>ir access rights will at<br />

times unwittingly interfere with those using land "set out for<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes" ... In <strong>the</strong>se cases it is beholden<br />

up<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se people to ensure that <strong>the</strong>y do not repeat <strong>the</strong><br />

interference. This can also be reinforced .. including a<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> golf courses outlining <strong>the</strong> appropriate etiquette<br />

i.e. wait until players have played through until crossing.<br />

(B/0178/X)<br />

The code does not appear to be str<strong>on</strong>g enough in advising<br />

that defined paths should be used in crossing courses, in<br />

restricting o<strong>the</strong>r recreati<strong>on</strong>al pursuits or that <strong>the</strong>re should<br />

be no interference with play. We believe that Secti<strong>on</strong> 5<br />

should be better reflected in <strong>the</strong> rest <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code. This<br />

seems to be <strong>on</strong>ly menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> golf courses<br />

being outwith <strong>the</strong> access rights. We believe that, as well<br />

as greens, tees and bunkers should also be no go areas.<br />

As well as taking dog dirt away with <strong>the</strong>m, owners should<br />

be required to keep <strong>the</strong>ir dogs under c<strong>on</strong>trol at all times.<br />

(B/0195/X)<br />

Greater emphasis needs to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> safety reas<strong>on</strong>s<br />

for using paths. (B/0218/X)<br />

The activities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sledging/cross country skiing do cause<br />

damage to <strong>the</strong> course and this will be greatly increased if<br />

<strong>the</strong> general public are allowed to determine that <strong>the</strong>re is<br />

"sufficient snow cover" to carry out <strong>the</strong>se activities.<br />

managers, <strong>the</strong>re is specific reference to o<strong>the</strong>r recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

pursuits <strong>on</strong> golf courses. This is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> great c<strong>on</strong>cern to us as this<br />

Code is designed to provide guidance to enact <strong>the</strong> Land Reform<br />

Bill. The Bill limits access rights <strong>on</strong> golf courses to crossing from<br />

<strong>on</strong>e place to ano<strong>the</strong>r. This advice/commentary c<strong>on</strong>tradicts <strong>the</strong> Bill<br />

and in doing so <strong>the</strong> Code risks overstepping its remit and risks<br />

legitimising behaviour that is covered by <strong>the</strong> primary legislati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

We str<strong>on</strong>gly object to this wording remaining in <strong>the</strong> Code.<br />

(B/0178./X)<br />

… where a golf club can provide a route around <strong>the</strong> perimeter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong>ir course, such a route should be preferable to a route<br />

crossing <strong>the</strong> course. (B/0345/X)<br />

A siginificant part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> golf etiquette is to promote best practice for<br />

safety. Perhaps that part should be incorporated in <strong>the</strong> Code in a<br />

clause specifically about golf courses? If we were to put up<br />

Warning Notices that could be c<strong>on</strong>strued as so str<strong>on</strong>g that <strong>the</strong>y<br />

discourage <strong>the</strong> public from entering we can foresee legal<br />

difficulties. (B/0519/X)<br />

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(B/0225/X)<br />

...it should also be pointed out that many golf courses have<br />

adjoining or separate practise grounds. There are areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

high intensity usage and <strong>the</strong>refore significantly increase<br />

<strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> injury to potential accessees. The same criteria<br />

should at least apply for <strong>the</strong>se areas. (B/0609/X)<br />

There should be a sub-secti<strong>on</strong> relating specifically to golf<br />

courses giving guidance as to how and when to cross<br />

fairways ie. letting matches play through before crossing,<br />

keeping noise levels to a minimum and dogs to be kept <strong>on</strong><br />

a leash at all times. This kind <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> advice would go a l<strong>on</strong>g<br />

way to minimising <strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> interrupti<strong>on</strong> and possible<br />

c<strong>on</strong>flict ... The secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> golf courses would be improved<br />

by making specific reference to safety reas<strong>on</strong>s for using<br />

paths and also advise <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> need to check where golfers<br />

are playing before crossing <strong>the</strong> course... It would be<br />

beneficial to add to <strong>the</strong> statement regarding keeping <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f<br />

greens, that it is good practice to keep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f tees and out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

bunkers. It should be re-emphasised in this secti<strong>on</strong> that<br />

<strong>the</strong> public has no rights to exercise access for recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

purposes <strong>on</strong> golf courses. (B/0918/X)<br />

.... If dogs are not permitted <strong>on</strong> sports pitches etc. for<br />

health reas<strong>on</strong>s <strong>the</strong>y should not be permitted <strong>on</strong> golf<br />

courses. .... The advice is also deficient as it fails to<br />

menti<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> need to keep your dog under c<strong>on</strong>trol which is<br />

a requirement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act. This is important for player<br />

safety and to prevent <strong>the</strong> dog from chasing or being hit by<br />

golf balls. (J/1203/X)<br />

..suggest that <strong>on</strong>e way <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> avoiding this situati<strong>on</strong> is to<br />

include a specific secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> golf courses outlining<br />

appropriate etiquette ie. wait until players have played<br />

through before crossing. (J/1203/X)<br />

golf courses should include golf practice grounds which<br />

are usually adjacent to golf courses. (P/1247/X)<br />

The Act <strong>on</strong>ly gives <strong>the</strong> right to cross a golf course, with <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>duct set out in S1(3) being specifically excluded under<br />

S9(g). However, <strong>the</strong> Code seems to suggest that golf<br />

courses can (or land managers should allow) activities<br />

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Hills, mountains<br />

and moorlands<br />

agree <strong>draft</strong> Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

such as sledging and cross country skiing - surely <strong>the</strong>se<br />

are <strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities <strong>the</strong> legislati<strong>on</strong> is seeking to<br />

exclude? (W/0815/X)<br />

We suggest accordingly that <strong>the</strong> Code should c<strong>on</strong>tain<br />

provisi<strong>on</strong> which would require <strong>the</strong> public:-<br />

a) not to leave defined paths or sign posted routes<br />

b) to stand still while golfers play shots<br />

c) subject to (b), not to dally or spectate<br />

d) to keep noise to a minimum<br />

e) to have children and dogs fulfil <strong>the</strong>se requirements<br />

Any rights should extend to crossing <strong>on</strong>ly - not walking<br />

about <strong>on</strong>, or picnicking etc. What c<strong>on</strong>stitutes interrupti<strong>on</strong><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a game? (W/0882/X)<br />

Crossing over golf courses - fair enough <strong>on</strong> foot but a lot<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> feet could do a lot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> damage in <strong>the</strong> winter m<strong>on</strong>ths when<br />

members are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten banned. Cycling and horse riding<br />

across golf courses should surely be c<strong>on</strong>fined to special<br />

roadways. Incidentally golf teeing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f places are just as<br />

worthy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> protecti<strong>on</strong> as are <strong>the</strong> greens. They are almost<br />

always elevated structures requiring as much looking after<br />

as <strong>the</strong> greens. (W/1102/X/d)<br />

Presumably <strong>the</strong> advice to avoid wet, boggy or s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t ground<br />

is aimed mainly at cyclists and horseriders not walkers.<br />

This should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clearer. (A/0437/X)<br />

It is most important for upland bio-diversity that extreme<br />

care is taken during <strong>the</strong> nesting and chick seas<strong>on</strong> (April to<br />

July) and deer calving (May/June) when hard paths and<br />

tracks <strong>on</strong>ly should be used. (J/1058/X)<br />

Full guidance about access rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities in<br />

<strong>the</strong> different shooting seas<strong>on</strong>s and in relati<strong>on</strong> to particular<br />

shoots should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear. We suggest that this<br />

guidance should be in a separate appendix. (Q/0445/X)<br />

Rewrite <strong>the</strong> relevant secti<strong>on</strong> to read...newborn lambs are<br />

particularly sensitive to disturbance so special care should<br />

be taken at lambing time. … (W/0273/X)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> hills, mountain, moorland is very inadequate.<br />

There is frequent c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong> and c<strong>on</strong>flict <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> interests between<br />

walkers and shooting groups. This may be due to:.... failure to<br />

provide accurate informati<strong>on</strong>; .... failure to provide alternative<br />

walking routes; failure <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walkers to obtain informati<strong>on</strong>. .... The<br />

code itself pays insufficient attenti<strong>on</strong> to this area. Are you aware<br />

that some estates act to prevent cycling al<strong>on</strong>g vehicle tracks?<br />

(A/0319/X).<br />

Hill lambing mid April to mid May is a particular problem. … I<br />

would have thought that any sensible body would have prohibited<br />

access to ground carrying sheep during <strong>the</strong> lambing seas<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(B/1030/X)<br />

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Historic sites<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Open pasture<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Paths and tracks<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Surely access rights do not apply to historic buildings<br />

whe<strong>the</strong>r charged entry exists or not. I am c<strong>on</strong>cerned that<br />

this implies it is permitted to climb <strong>on</strong> historical ruins.<br />

(B/0672/X)<br />

It would be helpful if <strong>the</strong> word 'ruins' were used, as many<br />

people will presume that <strong>the</strong> phrase 'archeological sites'<br />

refers to material below ground. This could be mirrored by<br />

including menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ruins in paragraph 3.34. (K/1241/X)<br />

Sensible distance needs to be defined. Guidance should<br />

be given to avoid startling pregnant ewes <strong>on</strong> open pasture<br />

(between February and May). (J/1058/X)<br />

Open pasture - extend this secti<strong>on</strong> to provide specific<br />

advice to dog owners, even at <strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> repeating<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>s. (P/0548/X)<br />

Open pasture land with livestock should include that<br />

wildlife such as curlew and lapwing may be disturbed<br />

March to July (V/0398/X/D)<br />

There should be advice for cyclists and horse riders that<br />

<strong>the</strong>y should give due c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> to, and give way to,<br />

those <strong>on</strong> foot, at all times. (A/0098/X)<br />

It would be more helpful if <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> for <strong>the</strong> public also<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tained advice to follow a signposted route where that is<br />

indicated. (B/0512/X/d)<br />

Where <strong>the</strong>re is a path <strong>the</strong>re should be a presumpti<strong>on</strong> to<br />

use it ra<strong>the</strong>r than go "wild-walking". (B/0879/X)<br />

The Code should state that it is irresp<strong>on</strong>sible not to use<br />

Ice Houses: Many old houses have 17th or 18th century ice<br />

houses, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten situated - as in mine - some way from <strong>the</strong> existing<br />

house in <strong>the</strong> middle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pasture. Despite efforts to restrict<br />

unauthorised access, <strong>the</strong>se can be dangerous places and should<br />

receive specific menti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> code. (B/0673/X)<br />

It should be noted that many archeological and historical sites<br />

are not obvious to <strong>the</strong> general public … Historic Scotland, <strong>the</strong><br />

Council for <strong>Scottish</strong> Archeology, local councils and local<br />

archeologists have an important educati<strong>on</strong>al role to play here.<br />

(L/0659/X)<br />

..<strong>the</strong>re should be a compulsory right for all landowners to be able<br />

to 'demand' (ra<strong>the</strong>r than suggest) that alternative routes be<br />

followed when <strong>the</strong>y had a reas<strong>on</strong>able c<strong>on</strong>cern. In incidences<br />

such as sheep ga<strong>the</strong>ring this may result in large areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

exclusi<strong>on</strong>. (B/0139/X)<br />

Land manager should be able to close hill ground <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f when<br />

necessary, eg at hill lambing. (B/1253/X)<br />

No menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comm<strong>on</strong> grazings or hill apporti<strong>on</strong>ments<br />

(B/0565/X)<br />

Whatever body is to be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong> enforcement <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

Code should have <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility for designating <strong>the</strong> suitability<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths. In associati<strong>on</strong> with <strong>the</strong> land owner it should be required<br />

to erect signs stating "Suitable for Walkers Only" or "Suitable for<br />

Walkers and Horses Only", or "Suitable for Walkers, Horses and<br />

Bicycles Only". (B/1295/X)<br />

Preventi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> damage to paths. SNH appear to c<strong>on</strong>sider that<br />

horse riding or cycling that caused damage to paths or property<br />

would not be regarded as resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. It would <strong>the</strong>refore<br />

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paths when <strong>the</strong>y are provided in <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>text <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> livestock/<br />

arable farms next to urban settlements (B/0956/X)<br />

There is clearly potential for c<strong>on</strong>flict in relati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> use<br />

and <strong>the</strong> maintenance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths. First <strong>the</strong> Code should<br />

positively encourage members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public to remain <strong>on</strong><br />

designated paths. Sec<strong>on</strong>dly …..There is a need for<br />

separati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> use by walkers, by horse riders and by<br />

cyclists....above all a recogniti<strong>on</strong> that ....<strong>the</strong>re may be a<br />

need for landowners to use tracks for farm and estate<br />

purposes such as timber extracti<strong>on</strong> that ....will inevitably <strong>on</strong><br />

occasi<strong>on</strong>s lead to damage to paths. The prospect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this<br />

use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths and <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sequent damage should be<br />

acknowledged in <strong>the</strong> Code. (B/0982/X)<br />

...<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fer far more specific advice to cyclists and particularly<br />

horse riders … Failure to do this will not <strong>on</strong>ly lead to<br />

unacceptable damage but also runs <strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> prejudicing<br />

<strong>the</strong> enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> less intrusive users who are seeking<br />

access <strong>on</strong> foot. (B/1025/X)<br />

Hill-walking. There is little menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

milli<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> walkers visiting Scotland every year have <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

paths and ground <strong>the</strong>y are using. There is no advice <strong>on</strong><br />

how this impact could be reduced e.g. not running down<br />

scree slopes, walking inside erosi<strong>on</strong> scars, walking in<br />

single file <strong>on</strong> narrow paths, avoiding s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t ground, wearing<br />

<strong>the</strong> lightest footwear suitable for <strong>the</strong> terrain. This secti<strong>on</strong><br />

needs expansi<strong>on</strong>. (B/1295/X)<br />

The whole questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>flicts between recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

user groups, e.g anglers / canoeists, riders / mountain<br />

bikers / walkers and <strong>the</strong> resoluti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se disputes and<br />

indeed who has <strong>the</strong> priority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access needs fur<strong>the</strong>r<br />

discussi<strong>on</strong>. (E/0924/X)<br />

Here is an opportunity to encourage a resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

approach in that <strong>the</strong>re should be a presumpti<strong>on</strong> to follow a<br />

path, where <strong>on</strong>e exists. This secti<strong>on</strong> should be enhanced -<br />

after all for both <strong>the</strong> public and land managers paths are<br />

an ideal way to integrate countryside access with land<br />

management. The use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> paths provides good quality<br />

access for <strong>the</strong> public, while minimising any disturbance to<br />

appear that it would be reas<strong>on</strong>able for a land manager to exclude<br />

riders <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> grounds that a track was not suitable with <strong>the</strong> result<br />

that damage would occur but this has not yet been <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear in<br />

<strong>the</strong> Code. It should be. (E/1257/X)<br />

Defined routes - It was felt that defined and waymarked routes<br />

may help to guide people away from sensitive agricultural or<br />

wildlife areas but c<strong>on</strong>cern was also voiced that marking paths<br />

results in a loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> freedom. (H/1140/X)<br />

Expand <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wear and tear and to include some<br />

informati<strong>on</strong> about Core Path Networks and how <strong>the</strong>y should<br />

provide for all user groups including disabled people. The lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

detail about Core Path Networks has generated some uncertainty<br />

about <strong>the</strong>ir likely extent and to what degree routes must be<br />

accessible and suitable for all user groups. (K/1241/X)<br />

Paths and tracks - need guidance (a nati<strong>on</strong>al recognised symbol)<br />

at gateways <strong>on</strong> which a track is a driveway into a<br />

garden/curtilage area and when it <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fers access to land with<br />

access rights? (P/1273/X)<br />

Local authorities, in particular, may be c<strong>on</strong>sidered service<br />

providers (in partnership with landowners/managers) … but <strong>the</strong><br />

Code should menti<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> desirability, if not <strong>the</strong> requirement, for<br />

access provisi<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> core paths to be inclusive and for <strong>the</strong><br />

removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> barriers to access for disabled people. ... <strong>the</strong>re is an<br />

opportunity to promote <strong>the</strong> idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> least restrictive access here<br />

and to encourage a positive and proactive approach <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers. (V/1285/X)<br />

The single most important factor in access to <strong>the</strong> countryside<br />

should be <strong>the</strong> creati<strong>on</strong>, labelling and upkeep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> attractive<br />

footpaths .... This is what <strong>the</strong> great majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> visitors want.<br />

(W/0951/X)<br />

Particular areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cern regarding access over my own<br />

property are when <strong>the</strong>re is a c<strong>on</strong>flict <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> interest between walkers,<br />

horse riders and cyclists. We would have to widen <strong>the</strong> existing<br />

paths c<strong>on</strong>siderably and sub-divide <strong>the</strong>m to ensure that walkers'<br />

paths are not wrecked (in bad wea<strong>the</strong>r) by horses or bikers as<br />

well as to ensure <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all c<strong>on</strong>cerned. The cost <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this<br />

would be prohibitive. (W/0957/X)<br />

A system <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> designati<strong>on</strong> by approved use can be stipulated for all<br />

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Reservoirs<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

land management activities. (H/1103/X)<br />

Cycling and horse riding can <strong>on</strong>ly be regarded as<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible if carried out <strong>on</strong> suitable surfaces. … The<br />

potential for damage to <strong>the</strong> soil structure in wet ground or<br />

<strong>on</strong> fragile sandy ground such as machairs by cycle wheels<br />

and horses’ hooves is very large. ... This has particular<br />

relevance to areas such SSSIs and o<strong>the</strong>r designated<br />

areas. (H/1327/X)<br />

Cyclists and horse riders should keep <strong>on</strong>ly to suitable<br />

(designated) paths and tracks. (J/1058/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re should always be a presumpti<strong>on</strong> in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> multiuse<br />

and this should be encouraged. By making clear, <strong>the</strong><br />

rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> different users, more<br />

encouragement can be given to promoting all uses and <strong>the</strong><br />

potential for c<strong>on</strong>flict between users will be reduced.<br />

(L/0865/X)<br />

Emphasise <strong>the</strong> need for dog owners to clean up after <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

pets. Explain <strong>the</strong> health and social implicati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dirty<br />

paths for wheelchair users. (P/0890/X)<br />

…recogniti<strong>on</strong> is needed in this secti<strong>on</strong> that some paths<br />

and tracks by design have a presumpti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> particular use<br />

for cyclists or horse riders eg Glentress. On such paths it<br />

should be <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> user who gives way to avoid<br />

causing problems for <strong>the</strong> user whom <strong>the</strong> path was<br />

designed for. (R/1278/X)<br />

Provisi<strong>on</strong> must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> public health grounds in <strong>the</strong><br />

code to exclude areas around private water supplies from<br />

open access. (B/0257/X)<br />

The Code must be amended to stop all access to man<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

p<strong>on</strong>ds & reservoirs/lago<strong>on</strong>s so as to safeguard <strong>the</strong><br />

quality <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> water. (B/0294/X)<br />

It has been suggested that some activities, especially<br />

swimming, may be prohibited in reservoirs by existing<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>. If so (or not so) this should be noted for <strong>the</strong><br />

avoidance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> doubt (X/1036/X)<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>s and comp<strong>on</strong>ents <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a local CPN - viz: Class 1.<br />

Footpaths - for pedestrian and wheelchair use <strong>on</strong>ly. Class 2.<br />

Cycle ways - for cyclist use <strong>on</strong>ly. Class 3. Bridleways - for<br />

equestrian use <strong>on</strong>ly. (W/0143/X)<br />

Emergencies can occur at any time, day or night, and it would be<br />

sensible if <strong>the</strong> Code recognised that British Waterways has <strong>the</strong><br />

authority to close <strong>the</strong> towpath and o<strong>the</strong>r land in its c<strong>on</strong>trol.<br />

(X/0896/X)<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by land managers - Public bodies should<br />

take steps to promote <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> reservoirs where such access<br />

would not c<strong>on</strong>flict with water quality or public safety (R/0868/X).<br />

Promoti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> swimming is very likely to result in additi<strong>on</strong>al<br />

incidents, possibly fatalities. We would not wish to be associated<br />

with this type <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> promoti<strong>on</strong> (R/0868/X).<br />

On some reservoirs this would be asking for trouble because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> way <strong>the</strong> water is used. Not all water is treated. (W/0641/X)<br />

Under "Reservoirs" local management rules should be included<br />

as well as local byelaws. (X/0939/X)<br />

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River banks & loch<br />

shores<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Rivers & lochs<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

it is important to c<strong>on</strong>sider <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r users, anglers<br />

shouldn't be singled out as having special needs. All<br />

users should c<strong>on</strong>sider <strong>the</strong> rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all o<strong>the</strong>r legitimate<br />

users. (A/0908/X)<br />

Why, for golf courses must horses and cyclists keep to<br />

paths and never go <strong>on</strong> to any o<strong>the</strong>r part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a golf course -<br />

when this does not apply equally to river banks… The<br />

table is very weak <strong>on</strong> giving advice as to how to avoid<br />

disturbance to c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> and ec<strong>on</strong>omic interests... The<br />

Code should be amended to advise that diving in rivers is<br />

not resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour. (B/0167/X)<br />

What is a 'public slipway', if 'launching sites' are within <strong>the</strong><br />

right? Slipways, piers etc should all be included.<br />

(W/1310/X/d)<br />

I am c<strong>on</strong>siderably c<strong>on</strong>cerned over rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access <strong>on</strong>to groins<br />

and boulder weirs .... I think we shall suffer c<strong>on</strong>siderable damage<br />

to <strong>the</strong>m .... I also have c<strong>on</strong>siderable worries over bridges ....<br />

which are designed to get anglers across a river. (B/0305/X)<br />

Add - "Have a regard to navigati<strong>on</strong> when undertaking<br />

management operati<strong>on</strong>s and improvements that could pose a<br />

hazard to navigati<strong>on</strong> - such as placing cleeks <strong>on</strong> river beds;or<br />

c<strong>on</strong>structing low-level fishing walkways and fences across<br />

moving water". (G/1291/X)<br />

…. areas, e.g. water margins, where livestock are excluded for<br />

part or all <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a year under CPS or RSS specifically to protect<br />

birds, plants, etc. (H/1196/X)<br />

Equally it is c<strong>on</strong>sidered irresp<strong>on</strong>sible to permit unlimited numbers<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people c<strong>on</strong>gregating and proceeding toge<strong>the</strong>r close al<strong>on</strong>g<br />

river-banks and shores. (J/1255/X)<br />

Can a pers<strong>on</strong> take a canoe <strong>on</strong>to water which is managed by a<br />

fishing club or sailing club whose club members pay? … clarity is<br />

required in <strong>the</strong> Code <strong>on</strong> those areas such as recreati<strong>on</strong>al water<br />

where access rights are allowable when not in use, but o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

users pay to use <strong>the</strong> water. (P/0491/X)<br />

Water access: substantially more detailed guidance is needed <strong>on</strong><br />

anchoring, beaching and launching rep<strong>on</strong>sibilities (The Nati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

Park has a great deal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> experience in this area and would<br />

welcome <strong>the</strong> opportunity to share this). (P/1219/X)<br />

Why no coast? (W/0056/X/d)<br />

... access al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> river. As an attractive place for a walk ..is<br />

understandable ... The cumulative effect is significant. With <strong>the</strong><br />

decline in fish numbers, <strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>e solace for fishermen is <strong>the</strong><br />

peace and quiet afforded. I have already received comments<br />

from some that if <strong>the</strong> level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disturbance should rise <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y<br />

will not return. (W/0926/X)<br />

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changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

School Playing<br />

Fields<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

I would questi<strong>on</strong> why <strong>the</strong> code raises <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> size<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> river or loch which may be navigated. Some very small<br />

upland rivers are navigable by canoes raising no<br />

envir<strong>on</strong>mental c<strong>on</strong>cerns. (A/0919/X)<br />

3 - In secti<strong>on</strong> Five: Rivers and Lochs: Public: I feel that <strong>the</strong><br />

emphasis should be up<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> need for <strong>the</strong> river or loch to<br />

be appropriate for <strong>the</strong> activity planned or <strong>the</strong> numbers<br />

likely to take part, ra<strong>the</strong>r than having any specific<br />

reference to <strong>the</strong> appropriate "size" <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> groups. I wish this to<br />

be amended in <strong>the</strong> final code. (A/1095/X)<br />

Guidelines for access <strong>on</strong> water, and <strong>the</strong> interacti<strong>on</strong><br />

between fishermen and o<strong>the</strong>r users <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> water may work<br />

<strong>on</strong> bigger lochs and rivers. But <strong>on</strong> small fast flowing water<br />

<strong>the</strong> two uses are simply incompatible. (B/0481/X)<br />

In respect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> 'rivers and lochs', <strong>the</strong> Trust<br />

wishes to repeat its previously expressed c<strong>on</strong>cern that<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> need to avoid disturbance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

fish. The particular need to avoid damage to spawning<br />

gravels is probably best covered in appropriate local<br />

guidance, especially in upland streams, but <strong>the</strong> general<br />

guidance in <strong>the</strong> box <strong>on</strong> Page 49 should at least make<br />

specific menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fish as well as 'birds and o<strong>the</strong>r wildlife'.<br />

(J/1259/X)<br />

Particular care should be exercised <strong>on</strong> small lochs and<br />

p<strong>on</strong>ds (say 10 acres or less), where any boating or<br />

excessive tramping <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> shore, can upset habitat and<br />

widlife. (W/0951/X).<br />

School playing fields - reword to make it clear that it is not<br />

any land next to a school that is used by <strong>the</strong> school which<br />

is excluded from <strong>the</strong> rights. Some community greenspace<br />

land such as parks and woodlands are used by <strong>the</strong> school<br />

but are not closed to public access because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this.<br />

... what about small private lochs ('stanks'), created and stocked<br />

purely for fishing purposes? Are <strong>the</strong> public entitled to picnic and<br />

swim at/in <strong>the</strong>se locati<strong>on</strong>s, to <strong>the</strong> detriment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> those who have<br />

paid for <strong>the</strong> loch, or to be <strong>the</strong>re? (B/0472/X)<br />

Where water bodies <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this kind (reserves) are c<strong>on</strong>cerned it is<br />

impossible to engage in active pursuits such as canoeing or<br />

swimming without disturbing <strong>the</strong> natural heritage. (H/1128/X)<br />

The Code should fur<strong>the</strong>r advise land/water managers to ask <strong>the</strong><br />

Local Authority for help and/or advice when <strong>the</strong>y are managing<br />

access over land/water which falls outwith statutory access<br />

rights. (P/1218/X)<br />

Access to rivers can be a c<strong>on</strong>tentious issue and needs fur<strong>the</strong>r<br />

development within this secti<strong>on</strong> to arrive at a workable<br />

arrangement. (V/0207/X/d)<br />

... <strong>the</strong> Code should make every<strong>on</strong>e, such as canoeists, hillwalkers<br />

and o<strong>the</strong>rs, aware that <strong>the</strong>y must not carry any<br />

equipment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> instruments capable <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> catching salm<strong>on</strong> or sea trout<br />

when in or <strong>on</strong> rivers or <strong>the</strong>ir banks. It should also be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear<br />

that secti<strong>on</strong> 7 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> "Salm<strong>on</strong> and Freshwater Fisheries<br />

(Protecti<strong>on</strong>) [Scotland] Act 1951 relating to this applies.<br />

(W/0533/X)<br />

... rivers and lochs are well covered in <strong>the</strong> various clauses.<br />

Canals are menti<strong>on</strong>ed but seem to have a lower pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ile. Similarly<br />

access to <strong>the</strong> shore to allow for sea trips also seems to be low<br />

key. Both canals and shore access could do with more<br />

prominence. (W/1054/X)<br />

...should be widened to include p<strong>on</strong>ds and burns. (X/0939/X)<br />

...open access c<strong>on</strong>flicts with <strong>the</strong> terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Management<br />

Agreement .. for Loch Spynie. (X/0495/X)<br />

There should be a broader definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> word "school" to<br />

include <strong>Outdoor</strong> Activity Centres, Adventure Schools, Field Study<br />

and Educati<strong>on</strong>al Centres, and Youth Group Camps where<br />

children are being accommodated and instructed. … The Land<br />

Manager in <strong>the</strong>se cases would be <strong>the</strong> pers<strong>on</strong> in charge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> looking<br />

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Sports pitches<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Tree felling &<br />

extracti<strong>on</strong><br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

(P/0548/X)<br />

The Code refers to <strong>the</strong> availability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights to<br />

sports pitches and playing fields, when not in use.<br />

However, secti<strong>on</strong> 3.37 denies this access to dog owners<br />

for reas<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disease transmissi<strong>on</strong>. This is an<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able restricti<strong>on</strong> and, indeed, many such facilities<br />

are currently <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> available for canine activities at<br />

present, without difficulty. Green areas in an urban setting<br />

are already limited without <strong>the</strong> need for fur<strong>the</strong>r restricti<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

(G/1044/X)<br />

Sports pitches ….. 'horse riders and cyclists must not go<br />

across sports pitches'……… is this stance actually<br />

supported by <strong>the</strong> Act and thus enforceable ? (P/0643/X)<br />

Community members have expressed reservati<strong>on</strong>s about<br />

access across golf courses, sports or playing fields in <strong>the</strong><br />

hours before use (Q/1230/X)<br />

It would in my view be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for those exercising<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir access rights to make <strong>the</strong>ir way, wherever<br />

practicable, around <strong>the</strong> perimetres <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> marked pitches, even<br />

when not in use. (W/0511/X)<br />

Ra<strong>the</strong>r than "you must not" this guidance could state<br />

"avoid hindering <strong>the</strong>se operati<strong>on</strong>s by following any signs or<br />

alternative routes provided". (A/0927/X)<br />

Tree felling - take care <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> stacked timber. No climbing.<br />

after <strong>the</strong> children at that site, and he/she <strong>the</strong>refore needs <strong>the</strong><br />

power to protect <strong>the</strong> privacy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> his group by having <strong>the</strong>se<br />

circumstances included in <strong>the</strong> Code. (X/1188/X)<br />

Access Rights should not apply to any area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land that is<br />

specifically used as a training or teaching area by any<br />

establishment that works with children and young people.<br />

(X/1188/X)<br />

it appears to be unreas<strong>on</strong>able that <strong>the</strong> public can use our<br />

facilities without in any way c<strong>on</strong>tributing to <strong>the</strong>ir upkeep, repair<br />

and maintenance. Is it priviledge without resp<strong>on</strong>sibility?<br />

(D/1206/X)<br />

Stricter c<strong>on</strong>trols should be applied to those woodlands close to<br />

urban areas regarding <strong>the</strong>ir maintainance, felling and re-planting.<br />

(A/0598/X/d)<br />

..<strong>the</strong> practical difficulties, compliance with Health & safety etc, are<br />

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Visitor attracti<strong>on</strong>s<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

(B0288X)<br />

Tree felling operati<strong>on</strong>s can be hazardous and should be<br />

avoided. Trees and branches can become entangled in<br />

neighbouring trees and fall to <strong>the</strong> ground sometime after<br />

felling operati<strong>on</strong>s have taken place. Look out and avoid<br />

such hazards. (B/0443/X)<br />

Access takers are told not to hinder operati<strong>on</strong>s and follow<br />

any signs or alternative routes provided. However it<br />

makes no reference to whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong>y would be<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible not to do so. (E/0516/X)<br />

Ra<strong>the</strong>r than "you must not" this guidance could be stated<br />

"avoid hindering <strong>the</strong>se operati<strong>on</strong>s by following any signs or<br />

alternative routes provided". (K/0722/X)<br />

…this secti<strong>on</strong> should indicate that it will not be<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible to take access when operati<strong>on</strong>s have<br />

stopped for <strong>the</strong> day or at <strong>the</strong> weekend provided safe to do<br />

so. (R/1278/X)<br />

Require fur<strong>the</strong>r qualificati<strong>on</strong>. There is no menti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong><br />

informati<strong>on</strong> for those exercising access rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> rules<br />

relating to when charging is acceptable. (K/1241/X)<br />

If access rights do not extend to visitor attracti<strong>on</strong>s where<br />

an entry charge is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>re needs to be some very<br />

careful definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such sites. There could be great<br />

potential for abuse and denial <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rights unless <strong>the</strong>re is a<br />

clear definiti<strong>on</strong>....... Could access be denied to<br />

surrounding areas if a charge is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> for parking or<br />

refreshments available somewhere <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> same estate?<br />

(W/0489/X)<br />

not helped by encouraging access in <strong>the</strong> vicinity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such<br />

operati<strong>on</strong>s. (B/0510/X)<br />

The Access code as it stands does not give sufficient guidance<br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> landowners right to close <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f specific areas or access<br />

routes during times when forestry operati<strong>on</strong>s would come into<br />

c<strong>on</strong>flict with public access. (B/0969/X)<br />

The guide to resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by land managers is<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able. Trees are a growing crop and felling will be<br />

subject to commercial realities. Land managers will arrange<br />

felling when market c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s dictate and should not be<br />

expected to delay or postp<strong>on</strong>e in favour <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access rights.<br />

(B/1240/X)<br />

It should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that <strong>the</strong> Health and Safety at Work Act<br />

comes into force where forestry operati<strong>on</strong>s are taking place e.g.<br />

access is precluded within 90m <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a forwarder. Therefore, it is<br />

both reas<strong>on</strong>able and resp<strong>on</strong>sible for foresters to close secti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> forest at <strong>the</strong>se times. (B/1295/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong> sancti<strong>on</strong> open to <strong>the</strong> landowner where people do ignore<br />

warning signs etc, is pretty toothless. (E/0516/X)<br />

We open <strong>the</strong> wild garden and <strong>the</strong> walled garden for a m<strong>on</strong>th each<br />

year and <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r days by appointment, and charge £2. … Under<br />

<strong>the</strong> access are we wr<strong>on</strong>g now to charge admissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> £2? We<br />

think this must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear, so we know where we stand.<br />

(B/0484/X)<br />

The former Draft Access Code (Secti<strong>on</strong> 2.13) specified places<br />

which were 'managed attracti<strong>on</strong>s' where <strong>the</strong> public paid for<br />

access. Our lochs would have come under this category and we<br />

str<strong>on</strong>gly suggest, in all fariness, that <strong>the</strong> new Code should<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tinue to incorporate this provisi<strong>on</strong>. (J/0544/X)<br />

The way <strong>the</strong> Act is presently worded would appear to allow any<br />

land manager to restrict <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access simply by charging for<br />

admissi<strong>on</strong> to an area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land. The Code should clarify <strong>the</strong><br />

situati<strong>on</strong> and if possible prevent attempts to restrict access by<br />

this method. (L/0410/X)<br />

... it would be appropriate for Caravan Parks to appear as a<br />

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Wildlife sites<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Wildlife sites. How can <strong>the</strong>se be identified by <strong>the</strong> general<br />

public? (B/1150/X/d)<br />

Could it be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> mandatory that dogs are kept <strong>on</strong> leads in<br />

areas where birds are being actively encouraged - again<br />

could <strong>the</strong> code suggest <strong>the</strong> wording <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> suitable notices<br />

which would explain <strong>the</strong> positi<strong>on</strong> to dog owners.<br />

(B/1002/X)<br />

Wildlife Sites. What is <strong>the</strong> definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a wildlife site? The<br />

whole <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Balmoral Estate is a wildlife site. Such sites are<br />

at present subject to no more protecti<strong>on</strong> than o<strong>the</strong>r areas<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> countryside. However, if it intended to give greater<br />

protecti<strong>on</strong> to designated sites such as SSSIs, cSACs,<br />

SPAs, NNRs, etc, <strong>the</strong>n this should be stated in <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

and reference <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to an obligati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> access-takers to<br />

follow local management rules which may restrict access<br />

at cetain times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year. (B/1295/X)<br />

Access takers should keep to hard paths. The reference<br />

to local guidance and management rules to be followed<br />

will come with a cost. This must be recognised.<br />

(J/1058/X)<br />

category in Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 … where it could be highlighted that access<br />

is <strong>on</strong>ly available where a Right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Way exists. (X/1059/X)<br />

..prefer all Wildlife / C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> areas to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fered <strong>the</strong> highest<br />

level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> protecti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> first instance by declaring that <strong>the</strong>y are<br />

generally exempt from access rights unless o<strong>the</strong>rwise stated.<br />

(B/0551/X)<br />

to agree with <strong>the</strong> land manager <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> each <strong>on</strong>e a footpath which<br />

people would be required to stick to (B/1049/X)<br />

... specific secti<strong>on</strong>s should be set aside for SSSIs and special<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> areas. This requires an individual secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> its<br />

own and in <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>densed versi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code giving specific<br />

informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> designated sites and how to behave in <strong>the</strong>m …<br />

SNH must c<strong>on</strong>sult all land holders with designati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

ground to develop a specific secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code for <strong>the</strong>se<br />

designati<strong>on</strong>s. (B/1267/X/d)<br />

Whe<strong>the</strong>r it is rare birds, fragile habitat or dangerous ground <strong>the</strong>re<br />

has to be discreti<strong>on</strong> for sensitive exclusi<strong>on</strong>. … I do not believe<br />

this element has been properly addressed in <strong>the</strong> code.<br />

(B/1167/X)<br />

Many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> my fields through <strong>the</strong> Coutryside Premium Scheme and<br />

Rural Stewardship Scheme have been sown out to beetle banks<br />

and unharvested crops etc. I am under strict instructi<strong>on</strong>s not to<br />

trample or use <strong>the</strong>se areas for any farm activity. (B/0633/X)<br />

Game cover plots also provide a very attractive envir<strong>on</strong>ment for<br />

small birds and ideally access should be denied to <strong>the</strong>m<br />

completely between <strong>the</strong> m<strong>on</strong>ths <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> August and January.<br />

(F/0748/X)<br />

Wildlife sites: add "geological sites" (L/0659/X)<br />

The Code appears to have d<strong>on</strong>e little to limit <strong>the</strong> impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> areas. There is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> protecti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

habitat areas, in particular SSSIs and SACs. (U/1172/X)<br />

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Sporting Activities:<br />

Deer stalking in<br />

forests and woods<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Deer stalking <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> open hill<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for<br />

those exercising access rights.<br />

My experience is that most walkers are unaware, that in<br />

this area, most deer stalking takes place in woodlands and<br />

we have had <strong>the</strong> occasi<strong>on</strong>al potential hazard as a result.<br />

((B/0338/X/d).<br />

For roe deer stalking seas<strong>on</strong>s extend throughout <strong>the</strong> year<br />

(Annex 2: bucks 01 April to 20 October, and does 21<br />

October to 30 April). By using <strong>the</strong> words "during <strong>the</strong><br />

stalking seas<strong>on</strong> (see annex 2)" <strong>the</strong> public are being asked<br />

to take "extra care at dawn and dusk" throughout <strong>the</strong> year<br />

irrespective <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> whe<strong>the</strong>r anything is happening. (A/0927/X)<br />

It is a major shortcoming <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code that advice and<br />

guidance <strong>on</strong> avoiding c<strong>on</strong>flict with shooting or hunting<br />

activities is omitted from <strong>the</strong> main body <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> document.<br />

(B/0628/X)<br />

Shooting - These instructi<strong>on</strong> are vague, ambiguous and<br />

not practical. If followed, <strong>the</strong>y could incur a major shooting<br />

accident. To act resp<strong>on</strong>sibly <strong>the</strong> public must avoid close<br />

proximity to <strong>the</strong> shooting. Where does <strong>the</strong> liability lie?<br />

(B/0695/X)<br />

It should be emphasised that taking access through land<br />

when shooting is taking place is irresp<strong>on</strong>sible. (B/0801/X).<br />

you ignore <strong>the</strong> fact that <strong>on</strong> enclosed ground eg in forestry<br />

deer are killed all round <strong>the</strong> year legally. Regrettably too<br />

quite a lot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> woodland stalking occurs <strong>on</strong> a Sunday.<br />

(W/1102/X/d)<br />

By using <strong>the</strong> wording "during <strong>the</strong> stalking seas<strong>on</strong> (see<br />

Annex 2)" <strong>the</strong> Code is stating that <strong>the</strong> public should take<br />

steps for 7.5 m<strong>on</strong>ths <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year. This is a very<br />

c<strong>on</strong>siderable negative departure from current practice with<br />

Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for land<br />

managers.<br />

With red, roe and sika present, we really have no close seas<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(B/1168/X)<br />

We currently ask people to keep to paths when woodland<br />

stalking is taking place by use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a dated sign. These make it<br />

predictable where people will be seen, o<strong>the</strong>rwise <strong>the</strong> woodland<br />

stalker's job becomes very difficult in well-used areas.<br />

(B/1173/X)<br />

"To fur<strong>the</strong>r enable hill-walkers to make <strong>the</strong>ir plans before arriving<br />

in an area, c<strong>on</strong>sider provisi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> advanced stalking informati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> internet." (W/0021/X/d)<br />

While this deals with "Sporting Activities" e.g. deer stalking, <strong>the</strong>re<br />

is no provisi<strong>on</strong> where this takes place all year round. There also<br />

does not appear to be any provisi<strong>on</strong> where deer culling (again all<br />

year round under licence) occurs to preserve natural<br />

regenerati<strong>on</strong> under Approved Schemes, for which <strong>the</strong> heading<br />

"Sporting Activities" would appear inappropriate. (W/0768/X)<br />

Putting up signs and notices in relati<strong>on</strong> to woodland stalking is<br />

unlikely to be practicable, given that <strong>the</strong> activity is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten<br />

peripatetic over wide areas and involves not disturbing <strong>the</strong> areas<br />

in which you stalk before you do so.(W/0848/X)<br />

Deer stalking. The Hillph<strong>on</strong>es scheme should be menti<strong>on</strong>ed here<br />

as an example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> good practice helpful to land managers and<br />

access takers. (A/0560/X)<br />

Deer c<strong>on</strong>trol is compulsory through <strong>the</strong> Deer Commissi<strong>on</strong> for<br />

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Fishing<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

significant restrictive implicati<strong>on</strong>s. (A/0927/X)<br />

Under Health and Safety regulati<strong>on</strong>s <strong>the</strong> Estate is obliged<br />

to ensure that shooting is carried out safely. We believe<br />

this will be impossible to do with members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public<br />

allowed to walk anywhere <strong>the</strong>y choose… Therefore <strong>the</strong>re<br />

must be some form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> preventi<strong>on</strong> under "Reas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

Behaviour" to prevent unlimited access. (B/0203/y)<br />

The wearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> brightly coloured clothing should be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sidered unreas<strong>on</strong>able behaviour, as it will have <strong>the</strong><br />

effect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> scaring <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f wild game. (B/0895/X)<br />

"Tell people where stalking is taking place using a<br />

Hillph<strong>on</strong>es service or use signs and informati<strong>on</strong> boards (in<br />

accordance with this Code) to give day-to-day informati<strong>on</strong><br />

at recognised access points ra<strong>the</strong>r than to indicate <strong>the</strong><br />

length <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> stalking seas<strong>on</strong>, and by ensuring that estate<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tact details are published in 'Heading for <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong><br />

Hills' and area Deer Management Group leaflets."<br />

(G/1099/X)<br />

Many visitors, foreigners and locals alike are unlikely to be<br />

aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> timing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> stalking seas<strong>on</strong>….But timely and<br />

daily updates in <strong>the</strong> car parks or at popular access points<br />

should ensure an equally resp<strong>on</strong>sible resp<strong>on</strong>se from hillwalkers.<br />

(Q/0415/X)<br />

The code should strike a better balance between <strong>the</strong><br />

needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> anglers and o<strong>the</strong>r river users. Both angling and<br />

canoeing are recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities and <strong>the</strong> code should be<br />

written in such a way as to place <strong>the</strong>m <strong>on</strong> an equal footing.<br />

If <strong>the</strong> code asks canoeists to "wait for a signal before<br />

passing quietly by anglers" it should also advise anglers<br />

not to "commence fishing near where canoeists are<br />

paddling or practising manoeuvres". (A/0919/X)<br />

...fishing and o<strong>the</strong>r sport activities should have <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities listed too. For example fishing - When<br />

paddling down a river I see a lot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fishing lines, floats,<br />

waders etc. Like canoeists <strong>the</strong>y should have a<br />

Scotland - an instrument <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> government. .. I believe it will be<br />

necessary, and entirely reas<strong>on</strong>able, to prohibit or c<strong>on</strong>trol, where<br />

that is possible, public access to deer forests in seas<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(B/0622/X)<br />

People and wild deer do not mix - i.e. if <strong>the</strong> ground over which<br />

deer management is dependant is disturbed <strong>the</strong> deer will become<br />

distressed and move elsewhere or become nocturnal in <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

feeding habits. Night stalking (which <strong>the</strong> Deer Commissi<strong>on</strong> for<br />

Scotland are trying to discourage) would <strong>the</strong>n become more<br />

comm<strong>on</strong> place. (B/0942/X/d)<br />

Hill ph<strong>on</strong>es are a good idea for big estates but do not help much<br />

for small estates where <strong>the</strong> same ground may be used every day.<br />

(B/1152/X)<br />

Pre-visit guidance can be helpful if extensive activities e.g. deer<br />

management are imminent. The visitor can be encouraged to<br />

check beforehand, and managers can be encouraged to prepare<br />

and provide informati<strong>on</strong>. (B/1288/X)<br />

..fishing should be classified in <strong>the</strong> same way as<br />

canoeing/kayaking ("o<strong>the</strong>r recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities"), as much<br />

fishing takes place as a recreati<strong>on</strong> without any land manager<br />

supervisi<strong>on</strong>. (A/0557/X)<br />

Fur<strong>the</strong>r, if fishing is in <strong>the</strong> 'sporting activities secti<strong>on</strong>' <strong>the</strong>n a<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> should be added asking fishermen to 'take care when<br />

casting, indicating to kayakers when and where to pass, ensuring<br />

that <strong>the</strong> desired route is safe and making efforts to ensure<br />

smooth relati<strong>on</strong>s'. It should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that no outdoor user<br />

has overall precedence over ano<strong>the</strong>r and all must respect <strong>the</strong><br />

activities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r. (A/0732/X)<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is too much emphasis <strong>on</strong> avoiding troubling anglers and not<br />

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esp<strong>on</strong>sibility to look after <strong>the</strong> area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bank <strong>the</strong>y use<br />

etc...... .bags <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rubbish left in popular fishing/camping<br />

spots. Parked cars are also a danger. (A/0967/X)<br />

...no distincti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> between <strong>the</strong> land managers who<br />

run fishing beats and <strong>the</strong> anglers <strong>the</strong>mselves. … an<br />

angler, no matter how much he/she may have paid or what<br />

level <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> exclusivity he/she may have been promised, is a<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al user taking access to <strong>the</strong> water <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> same<br />

level and with <strong>the</strong> same rights as myself. The code, sadly<br />

seems to have a less symmetric view. (A/1344/X)<br />

It is a fact that many activities which will be allowed while<br />

<strong>the</strong> river/loch is in use by anglers, have <strong>the</strong> potential to<br />

interfere with an angler's enjoyment <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> his sport, eg<br />

canoeing and rafting, paddling and swimming, throwing<br />

st<strong>on</strong>es into <strong>the</strong> water, allowing dogs to swim in <strong>the</strong> water,<br />

simply walking al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> bank <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a river. The fact that fish<br />

can be disturbed by such activities is given …anglers<br />

should also be advised to be careful when casting and not<br />

to cause a threat to those exercising access rights <strong>on</strong> a<br />

path next to inland water……<strong>the</strong> advice is unbalanced<br />

suggesting that angling interest should take priority in <strong>the</strong><br />

outdoors. (R/1278/X)<br />

Due to proximity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> towpath to <strong>the</strong> canal, it is virtually<br />

impossible for towpath users to 'keep a safe distance from<br />

an angler and avoid casting lines'… Towpath users must<br />

warn coarse fishermen <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir approach and <strong>the</strong>n slow<br />

down or stop... On <strong>the</strong>ir part, <strong>the</strong> fishermen must<br />

endeavour not to obstruct <strong>the</strong> towpath. (X/0896/X)<br />

an equivalent for anglers troubling canoeists. … When canoeing I<br />

will <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten stop at <strong>on</strong>e place to practice manoeuvres such as<br />

eskimo rolls or when climbing I will spend time trying to climb <strong>on</strong>e<br />

secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> crag and I feel that <strong>the</strong> code should recognise this<br />

as being a legitimate form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access ra<strong>the</strong>r than as irresp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

behaviour. (A/0908/X)<br />

It would be helpful if <strong>the</strong> code asked land managers to have<br />

regard to <strong>the</strong> need <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r river users when <strong>the</strong>y manage fishing.<br />

For example; briefing clients about <strong>the</strong> legitimate access which<br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs may take and <strong>the</strong> signalling system used with canoeists,<br />

ensuring that alterati<strong>on</strong>s to <strong>the</strong> river envir<strong>on</strong>ment do not pose a<br />

hazard or o<strong>the</strong>rwise impact <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> ability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>rs to enjoy <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

sport and managing any regulati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> water flow resp<strong>on</strong>sibly.<br />

(A/0919/X)<br />

Why is it that it is seen to be reas<strong>on</strong>able to ban people from<br />

games pitches when <strong>the</strong>y are in use but not fishing beats when<br />

<strong>the</strong>y are in use? Both are grounds that are maintained for<br />

sporting activities. (B/0167/X)<br />

Salm<strong>on</strong> and Sea Trout .. Brown Trout … The fish are at <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

most vulnerable in <strong>the</strong> Autumn when <strong>the</strong>y are <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Spawning<br />

Redds to lay <strong>the</strong>ir eggs. They are very susceptible to<br />

disturbance and it is more important that <strong>the</strong> Estate is able to<br />

restrict access to certain parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> river and burns where <strong>the</strong><br />

fish c<strong>on</strong>gregate. (B/0203/Y)<br />

It would surely be appreciated if inland waters with established<br />

clubs, having rights, were to be categorised as "no-go" areas for<br />

fur<strong>the</strong>r intrusi<strong>on</strong>. (J/1028/X)<br />

'Land or water that has been developed or set aside for a<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al purpose' must include stocked fisheries. Certain<br />

lochs have been developed specifically for this purpose, ei<strong>the</strong>r<br />

using existing features or lochans and p<strong>on</strong>ds created for<br />

commercial fishery purposes. (J/1058/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong>re really is a potential risk from fishers casting <strong>the</strong>ir lines. A<br />

greater awareness <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> hazard should be included to <strong>the</strong> effect<br />

that before walking close to a fisherman who is casting his line,<br />

you should make your presence known to <strong>the</strong> fisherman, who<br />

should, in turn, momentarily cease his activity to allow you to<br />

pass, this need not interrupt <strong>the</strong> fishing unduly and could prevent<br />

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Grouse shooting<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Not nearly enough prominence is given to <strong>the</strong> importance<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> not disturbing <strong>the</strong>se activities. ie Grouse shooting, Deer<br />

stalking, fishing. (B/0538/X)<br />

It is, <strong>the</strong>refore, a major shortcoming <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code that<br />

advice and guidance <strong>on</strong> avoiding c<strong>on</strong>flict with shooting or<br />

hunting activities is omitted from <strong>the</strong> main body <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

document. (B/0628/X)<br />

Reference should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to times outwith <strong>the</strong> shooting<br />

seas<strong>on</strong> when disturbance is most unwanted i.e. in <strong>the</strong><br />

nesting/breeding seas<strong>on</strong> from April to July. The summary<br />

should identify that disturbance will be minimised if access<br />

users follow tracks and paths. (B/1240/X)<br />

Grouse Shooting - As in <strong>the</strong> case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> deer stalking I feel it<br />

would be difficult for hill walkers to know exactly what area<br />

is being shot (or about to be shot) without enquiring<br />

specifically beforehand. (W/1163/X)<br />

nasty accidents. (W/0578/X)<br />

Surely it isn't legal to fish for brown trout in river or loch anywhere<br />

not covered by a 'Protecti<strong>on</strong> Order'? If so, <strong>the</strong>re will very so<strong>on</strong> be<br />

a scarcity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> trout to fish since managers will apply for a<br />

Protecti<strong>on</strong> Order or, failing to obtain <strong>on</strong>e, give up bo<strong>the</strong>ring to<br />

maintain fish stocks. In <strong>the</strong> summer, bus loads <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> from <strong>the</strong>m<br />

central belt descend <strong>on</strong> Highland rivers and fish <strong>the</strong>m out using<br />

dried prawns and worms. If <strong>the</strong>y now have a right to be <strong>the</strong>re,<br />

you w<strong>on</strong>'t ever be able to move <strong>the</strong>m <strong>on</strong>! In particular, what<br />

provisi<strong>on</strong> is <strong>the</strong>re to protect a loch stocked with brown trout? You<br />

haven't covered this. (W/0212/X)<br />

Fishing. Does <strong>the</strong> angling fraternity know a wave <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a hand (or<br />

whatever) is <strong>the</strong> signal to allow water borne craft to pass - it does<br />

not appear in <strong>the</strong> land managers' brief. (X/1290/X)<br />

I think it is not unreas<strong>on</strong>able to exclude access to <strong>the</strong> area over<br />

which <strong>the</strong> activity is taking place … If you accept my point I think<br />

you should also make it incumbent <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> land manager to put up<br />

proper signage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> activity. (B/0181/X)<br />

Red Grouse… To be able to protect <strong>the</strong>se birds <strong>the</strong> nesting<br />

areas must not be disturbed. This will be impossible if members<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public are allowed to have unlimited access to <strong>the</strong>se<br />

specific areas. Some form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>trol must be allowed.<br />

(B/0203/Y)<br />

Under grouse shooting, moorland management such as muirburn<br />

can affect access <strong>on</strong> hill tracks. Again <strong>the</strong> health and safety<br />

issue. (B/1288/X)<br />

Grouse shooting, <strong>the</strong>re should be means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informing people<br />

where moor burning is taking place close to well-used tracks.<br />

(P/1247/X)<br />

Could I suggest that red flag be flown at <strong>the</strong> hill road gate <strong>on</strong><br />

days when <strong>the</strong> moor is in use to warn hikers for <strong>the</strong>ir own safety.<br />

(W/0212/X)<br />

Under sporting activities <strong>the</strong> user must help to minimise, while<br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager must always respect <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people etc.<br />

A bit <strong>on</strong>e-sided really. (W/1153/Z/d)<br />

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Low-ground<br />

shooting<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

It should be emphasised that taking access through land<br />

when shooting is taking place is irresp<strong>on</strong>sible. (B/0801/X)<br />

A winter shoot in <strong>the</strong> policies etc can mean a line <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> guns<br />

covering <strong>the</strong> whole area. The guidance in secti<strong>on</strong> 5 to<br />

"change your route if asked to do so" is inadequate.<br />

(B/0782/X)<br />

These instructi<strong>on</strong>s are vague, ambiguous and not<br />

practical. If followed, <strong>the</strong>y could incur a major shooting<br />

accident. To act resp<strong>on</strong>sibly <strong>the</strong> public must avoid close<br />

proximity to <strong>the</strong> shooting. (B/0695/X/d)<br />

There should be advice to keep away from pheasant pens<br />

and pheasant rearing areas and also to put dogs <strong>on</strong> short<br />

leads where pheasants and o<strong>the</strong>r ground-nesting birds are<br />

present. (B/1295/X)<br />

Sporting/c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> … safety is all important and at<br />

times we have to put up notices to warn that shooting is in<br />

progress … <strong>the</strong> code could c<strong>on</strong>tain some guidelines to <strong>the</strong><br />

type <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> notices which would warn walkers to avoid <strong>the</strong> area<br />

<strong>on</strong> particular days. The code could <strong>the</strong>n advise walkers<br />

not to pass such notices. (B/1002/X)<br />

The BHS and BASC have developed a code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibility, since <strong>the</strong>re have been a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

accidents to riders unaware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> shooting near bridleways.<br />

To refer to that in <strong>the</strong> Access Code may be relevant.<br />

(G/1192/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> <strong>on</strong>ly reas<strong>on</strong> to be especially careful at dawn and<br />

dusk relate to roe deer stalking, and this is covered more<br />

appropriately under "Deer stalking in forests and woods".<br />

(H/0808/X)<br />

Game crops: although access is exempt under <strong>the</strong><br />

standing crop clause, as wide a berth as is practical should<br />

be advised; disturbance is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> great c<strong>on</strong>cern during <strong>the</strong><br />

m<strong>on</strong>th leading up to and throughout <strong>the</strong> shooting seas<strong>on</strong>.<br />

As <strong>the</strong>se are mostly <strong>on</strong>ly small areas, <strong>the</strong> impact <strong>on</strong><br />

Low ground shooting - this is an accident waiting to happen.<br />

(B/0633/X)<br />

We would interpret reas<strong>on</strong>able management as ensuring<br />

adequate warning signs at main access points and resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

access as heeding <strong>the</strong>se and not entering or doing so with<br />

extreme cauti<strong>on</strong>, accepting risk. Can Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 reflect this?<br />

(B/0782/X)<br />

As a keen clay pige<strong>on</strong> shooter we had to laugh at <strong>the</strong> complete<br />

vagueness <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se instructi<strong>on</strong>s. They are not practical and<br />

indeed somewhat ambiguous. If followed <strong>the</strong>re could arise a<br />

serious shooting accident. (B/0884/X)<br />

More thought needs to be given to exclusi<strong>on</strong> areas or times, so<br />

that businesses can c<strong>on</strong>tinue and safely. (B/1167/X)<br />

... disturbance <strong>on</strong> days prior to a shoot can be just as damaging.<br />

Customers who pay for shooting are purchasing as much an<br />

exclusive right to access, as <strong>the</strong> game to be killed - this should<br />

be explained in <strong>the</strong> code. (E/0906/X)<br />

..gives <strong>the</strong> impressi<strong>on</strong> that shooting <strong>on</strong>ly takes place in woods<br />

and forests. It also takes place in more open areas, including<br />

cultivated fields <strong>the</strong>mselves. (F/0748/X)<br />

Similarly to fishing, shooting is <strong>on</strong>ly covered as a land<br />

management sporting activity. Shooters are involved in a<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al or commercial activity, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten without direct land<br />

manager involvement. It would be useful to have outline advice<br />

and guidance in relati<strong>on</strong> to this. (G/1254/X)<br />

A significant omissi<strong>on</strong> from Secti<strong>on</strong> 4 is any guidance to land<br />

managers <strong>on</strong> how to run low-ground shooting in a resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

way in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> LRSA. (P/0899/X)<br />

The coverage <strong>on</strong> sporting activities, especially shooting, is not<br />

practicable and does not take account <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> seas<strong>on</strong>s or <strong>the</strong><br />

impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> changes in <strong>the</strong> wea<strong>the</strong>r <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> durati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> activity.<br />

(X/1174/X)<br />

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Sporting & o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

events<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

access rights would be minimal. (H/0904/X)<br />

There is a need for care at all times as lamping at night for<br />

foxes and rabbits is a comm<strong>on</strong> activity throughout much <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Scotland not just low ground. (T/0911/X)<br />

The Code is wr<strong>on</strong>g to give <strong>the</strong> impressi<strong>on</strong> that low ground<br />

shooting just takes place in woods and forests. A more<br />

accurate representati<strong>on</strong> should be included (V/0398/X/D)<br />

Low ground shooting - should be specific menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

avoiding disturbance to game release pens, feeding and<br />

roosting sites. (W/1112/X)<br />

… There is no suggesti<strong>on</strong> that land managers should obtain<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> (from <strong>the</strong> police, perhaps) when organizing events<br />

which involve <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> firearms in open country by large<br />

numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> civilians. (A/0290/X)<br />

Car parking (p50) - … It is not unreas<strong>on</strong>able for land managers to<br />

expect some public funding to provide e.g. proper laybys for<br />

parking, ra<strong>the</strong>r than having churned up verges, but <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>y<br />

should not be able to charge. (A/1037/X)<br />

The Act does not allow for charging for entry to access land. If a<br />

charge were to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> land would need to be subject<br />

to a secti<strong>on</strong> 11 order. The examples given under 'sporting and<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r activities' surely require this permissi<strong>on</strong> from <strong>the</strong> managing<br />

Authority and this should be clearly stated. (P/1219/X)<br />

Sporting and o<strong>the</strong>r events - emphasise that land managers are<br />

required to have exclusi<strong>on</strong> orders granted by <strong>the</strong> local authority.<br />

(P/1239/X)<br />

The secti<strong>on</strong> should give a greater range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> guidance for <strong>the</strong><br />

public and managers (land and event managers) to minimise<br />

disturbance to all, and to clarify that land may be closed<br />

temporarily following applicati<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> Local Authority.<br />

(W/0573/X)<br />

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O<strong>the</strong>r Recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

Activities covered<br />

under access<br />

rights:<br />

Canoeing, rafting,<br />

rowing & sailing<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for<br />

those exercising access rights.<br />

...canoeing and rafting need to take account <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> angling<br />

(W/0021/X)<br />

Kayakers may not have complete c<strong>on</strong>trol <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir craft at all<br />

times - <strong>the</strong>re will be occasi<strong>on</strong>s where improving paddlers,<br />

while still under close supervisi<strong>on</strong> and instructi<strong>on</strong>, may not<br />

be totally in c<strong>on</strong>trol and may find it difficult to avoid a<br />

certain secti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> river. It may also be <strong>the</strong> case that a<br />

particular route <strong>on</strong> a river is unfeasible and while paddlers<br />

should look for and welcome indicati<strong>on</strong>s from anglers as to<br />

<strong>the</strong> best route past, <strong>the</strong> final decisi<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> how to proceed is<br />

down to paddlers and <strong>the</strong> angler should respect this.<br />

(A/1344/X)<br />

In a salm<strong>on</strong> or sea trout river, all canoeists should abide by<br />

a code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> practice which did not interfere with, or damage<br />

<strong>the</strong> fishery. This would involve three things. The first is<br />

that entry and exit points should be carefully organised<br />

al<strong>on</strong>g <strong>the</strong> river. The sec<strong>on</strong>d is that a code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> practice<br />

should be promoted by <strong>the</strong> Access Code which kept<br />

canoes steadily <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> move and away from fishers, and<br />

which did not allow stopping or circling within a pool,<br />

except in a case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> emergencey. Thirdly, <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a<br />

fishing river by canoes should be <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> same basis as <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a golf course. Canoeists would have to report<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir entry points, times and approximate plans to a River<br />

Board central point, which would <strong>the</strong>n warn all relevant<br />

beats <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir expected approach... This proposal too<br />

would mean that canoeing parties could be m<strong>on</strong>itored, and<br />

could work with <strong>the</strong> fisheries ra<strong>the</strong>r than despite <strong>the</strong>m.<br />

(B/0461/X)<br />

Canoeists and anglers… can be tolerably compatible when<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir practiti<strong>on</strong>ers are prepared to be flexible, however,<br />

Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for land<br />

managers.<br />

I think it must be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear that Land Managers must <strong>on</strong>ly be<br />

able to SUGGEST "preferred access points" to rivers and water<br />

bodies. ….. For example, when issues <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pers<strong>on</strong>al safety or <strong>the</strong><br />

stretch <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> river available for use by canoeists is compromised by<br />

<strong>the</strong> "suggested" prefered access point <strong>the</strong> wider right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

should be available to canoeists to achieve more appropriate<br />

access (A/1095/X).<br />

... <strong>the</strong> idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> passing through quietly is a c<strong>on</strong>cern, as <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten<br />

kayakers will remain at <strong>on</strong>e locati<strong>on</strong> to practise 'eskimo rolling' or<br />

'rodeo activities'. On <strong>the</strong> whole, kayakers and fishermen get <strong>on</strong><br />

well, kayakers pass by quietly and without fuss. However, <strong>the</strong><br />

comments in <strong>the</strong> code do perhaps raise expectati<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

(A/0732/X)<br />

A party <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> canoeists can effectively ruin any prospect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> success<br />

for a fisherman after <strong>the</strong>y have passed … At <strong>the</strong> very least, <strong>the</strong>re<br />

should be a duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> care <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> canoeists and o<strong>the</strong>r water<br />

sports enthusiasts to negotiate access with riparian owners and<br />

fishing interests in advance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir activities in order to minimise<br />

disturbance. (B/0628/X)<br />

…a permit is issued to <strong>the</strong> user whe<strong>the</strong>r it be canoeists, rafters or<br />

fishermen for that day by <strong>the</strong> local Post Office and depending <strong>on</strong><br />

how high or low <strong>the</strong> river is depends <strong>on</strong> how many permits are<br />

issued. This has <strong>the</strong> effect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>trolling numbers using <strong>the</strong> river<br />

to an acceptable level and allows pleasure to all including <strong>the</strong><br />

fishermen. I would like to see <strong>the</strong> wording in <strong>the</strong> document<br />

altered to help <strong>the</strong> Land Managers/Riparian Owners manage<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> river effectively and efficiently. …I realise that<br />

SNH is totally against any restricti<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pers<strong>on</strong>s<br />

using <strong>the</strong> river, but without some sort <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>trol few users <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

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each has a significant minority whose c<strong>on</strong>duct is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten less<br />

than resp<strong>on</strong>sible… With access to water prohibited south<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Border I anticipate more canoeists will travel to<br />

Scotland and exacerbate <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong>, it is <strong>the</strong>refore<br />

imperative for angling c<strong>on</strong>cerns to be reflected in any<br />

"targeted advice" directed at o<strong>the</strong>r water users such as<br />

canoeists, rafters etc. (C/0070/X)<br />

Much canoeing is not just about travelling from A to B but<br />

about spending quality time <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> river, playing <strong>on</strong><br />

features such as waves or stoppers or simply enjoying <strong>the</strong><br />

surrounding envir<strong>on</strong>ment. I would like <strong>the</strong> code to<br />

recognise this as being a legitimate part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> going<br />

canoeing...... to practise "eskimo rolls" and o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

manoeuvres is an important aspect in <strong>the</strong> development <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

skills. It ensures that members are competent, c<strong>on</strong>fident<br />

and safe <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> water. I would ask that <strong>the</strong> code does not<br />

regard this as being irresp<strong>on</strong>sible. Perhaps it would be<br />

better if <strong>the</strong> code suggested that canoeists should avoid<br />

doing so near where anglers are fishing. ....Both angling<br />

and canoeing are recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities and <strong>the</strong> code<br />

should be written in such a way as to place <strong>the</strong>m <strong>on</strong> an<br />

equal footing...... landowners could brief clients about <strong>the</strong><br />

legitimate access which o<strong>the</strong>rs may take. Canoeists have<br />

a signalling system which could be adopted by anglers.<br />

(G/0832/X<br />

The majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> riparian owners… are relaxed about<br />

canoeists using <strong>the</strong> river so l<strong>on</strong>g as <strong>the</strong>y approach anglers<br />

in a friendly and positive manner, following any request by<br />

an angler… and that <strong>the</strong>y do not linger too l<strong>on</strong>g… There is<br />

<strong>on</strong>e secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> River Dee where access was agreed<br />

for canoeists <strong>on</strong> a Wednesday and Sunday. Sadly o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

canoeists have decided to use this area <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r days,<br />

resulting in growing animosity between fishermen and <strong>the</strong><br />

canoeists... It is situati<strong>on</strong>s such as this that <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

needs to have precise and clear guidance <strong>on</strong>, so that all<br />

river users may benefit from <strong>the</strong> water. (H/0916/X)<br />

We also feel that organised canoe parties should be<br />

encouraged to participate <strong>on</strong> Sundays, when angling is<br />

river, whatever <strong>the</strong>ir sport may be, will enjoy <strong>the</strong> natural resource.<br />

(B/0029/X)<br />

At Stanley and <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> river <strong>the</strong>re has been a significant and<br />

growing crisis <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> overuse and disturbance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> amenities<br />

where <strong>the</strong> code and its applicati<strong>on</strong> are urgently required to create<br />

a reas<strong>on</strong>able and sustainable balance between <strong>the</strong> various<br />

parties. Excessive use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> river by commercial rafting and<br />

canoeing parties not <strong>on</strong>ly clashes directly with fishing, and<br />

<strong>the</strong>refore <strong>the</strong> livelihood <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> ghillies, but also greatly disturbs<br />

<strong>the</strong> natural envir<strong>on</strong>ment for wildlife, when fish are running or<br />

water levels are low. (B/1157/X)<br />

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Cycling<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

reduced. (Q/1178/X)<br />

Advice is needed about <strong>the</strong> need for canoeists etc to stay<br />

away from fresh-water fish farm sites (damage, disease<br />

transfers, etc) (Q/1312/X)<br />

…this secti<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>centrates too much <strong>on</strong> interacti<strong>on</strong> with<br />

fishing interests while failing to provide advice <strong>on</strong><br />

interacti<strong>on</strong> between canoeing, rafting, rowing and sailing<br />

and o<strong>the</strong>r water sports. How, for example, should a canoe<br />

pass a yacht or a rower approach a jet ski? .....advice <strong>on</strong><br />

fishing should be c<strong>on</strong>tained in <strong>the</strong> fishing secti<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(R/1278/X)<br />

Swimming and boating should be specifically excluded<br />

from p<strong>on</strong>ds stocked specifically as commercial fisheries.<br />

(U/1172/X)<br />

The title should be expanded to include all unpowered<br />

boats. The canals are man<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> structures incorporating<br />

bridges, tunnels, locks, aqueducts, weirs and o<strong>the</strong>r water<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol mechanisms. In <strong>the</strong> interests <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> boater safety,<br />

British Waterways applies Internati<strong>on</strong>al Navigati<strong>on</strong>al Rules<br />

to all craft, powered or unpowered <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> canal system...<br />

Unpowered craft are required to have permits. These<br />

permits are issued free <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> charge and enable British<br />

Waterways to distribute canal informati<strong>on</strong> to canal users...<br />

<strong>the</strong> Code include reference to <strong>the</strong>se two documents.<br />

(X/0896/X)<br />

Cycling <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f road or track <strong>on</strong> unsuitable high mountain<br />

terrain is not resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour and should be str<strong>on</strong>gly<br />

discouraged, due to <strong>the</strong> disturbance caused to wildlife and<br />

potentially livestock, and those taking genuinely<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (A/0098/X)<br />

Cyclists should be c<strong>on</strong>fined to solid paths or tracks - <strong>the</strong><br />

damage <strong>the</strong>y do to s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t ground is horrific. (A/0291/X)<br />

Most cyclists seem to get <strong>the</strong>ir main enjoyment through<br />

travelling at speed downwhill and disturbing livestock and<br />

putting young lambs at risk. I think that <strong>the</strong>y should be<br />

New Subject; "Mountain Bikes" … Will SNH be including or<br />

recommending some code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>sibility or c<strong>on</strong>trol for<br />

mountain bikers? I would like to see <strong>the</strong>m c<strong>on</strong>fined to forest or<br />

LRTs, and leave stalkers tracks to foot soldiers. (A/0308/X)<br />

Cycling/Horse riding - Both can cause significant damage where<br />

undertaken in appropriate areas <strong>the</strong>re is a need, as a minimum,<br />

to establish advisory routes to ensure that damage is minimised.<br />

(X/1212/X)<br />

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estricted to cycle tracks. (B/0681/X)<br />

Add "Keep to suitable paths through enclosed arable<br />

land." (B/0733/X)<br />

I cannot accept that access for horse riding and cycling<br />

should be allowed <strong>on</strong> general grazing land without prior<br />

agreement with <strong>the</strong> landowner. (B/1147/X)<br />

The code should state that bikers should use existing<br />

tracks when crossing hea<strong>the</strong>r moorland (especially <strong>on</strong><br />

SSSI's) (B/1181/X)<br />

Mountain Bikes. If paths are narrow and easily eroded<br />

cyclists should keep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>the</strong> path altoge<strong>the</strong>r. Being advised<br />

to cycle slowly and "take extra care" is not acceptable.<br />

Cyclists should cycle <strong>on</strong> paths that are suitable for cycling,<br />

in practice this will mainly be <strong>on</strong> Landrover tracks. They<br />

should keep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f aggregate and pitched mountain footpaths<br />

that have been built or repaired. Mountain biking <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se<br />

paths damages water bars and drains. C<strong>on</strong>stantly braking<br />

whilst going downhill rips up <strong>the</strong> aggregate surface leading<br />

to accelerated rates <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> erosi<strong>on</strong>. Mountain bikers should<br />

also be told to avoid Landrover tracks whilst <strong>the</strong> substrate<br />

is thawing after winter, and frost heave is settling.<br />

(B/1295/X)<br />

Leave your dog at home unless you are wholly c<strong>on</strong>fident <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

keeping it under complete c<strong>on</strong>trol in all situati<strong>on</strong>s. This<br />

should also apply to cyclists. (G/0759/X)<br />

Cycling: add - Ride at a reas<strong>on</strong>able speed commensurate<br />

with user types, numbers and situati<strong>on</strong>. Use a bell to warn<br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs. (G/1214/X)<br />

C<strong>on</strong>tact local access forum for by-pass paths that are built<br />

and maintained to a suitable standard. (H/0310/X)<br />

There is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> avoiding livestock or wild animals<br />

(<strong>on</strong>ly walkers and horse riders). It is difficult to see <strong>the</strong><br />

logic in this omissi<strong>on</strong>. Cyclists should be advised not to<br />

cycle at speed round blind corners and so avoid disturbing<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r access takers as well as wild and domesticated<br />

animals. ... Rewrite Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 and para 5.2 table heading<br />

Cycling to read (W/0273/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re should be different and more stringent provisi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

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Horse Riding<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> for access <strong>on</strong> horseback and <strong>on</strong> bicycle. To allow<br />

access …. regardless <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ground c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s makes a<br />

mockery <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> many management procedures which<br />

farmers have to put into operati<strong>on</strong>. (W/0836/X)<br />

Cycling: Suggesting that cyclists have to give way to<br />

walkers and horse riders gives <strong>the</strong> impressi<strong>on</strong> that <strong>the</strong>re is<br />

a 'hierarchy', and that cyclists are at <strong>the</strong> bottom <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> it!<br />

(G/1098/X)<br />

Cycling: add - Ride at a reas<strong>on</strong>able speed commensurate<br />

with user types, numbers and situati<strong>on</strong>. Use a bell to warn<br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs. (G/1214/X)<br />

...add avoid causing alarm to walkers etc especially when<br />

approaching from behind; use a bell! (P/0899/X)<br />

…<strong>the</strong> advice should recognise that some routes have been<br />

designed for cycling or horse riding and that it should be<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r users that should give way to cyclists or horse riders<br />

<strong>on</strong> such routes. (R/1278/X)<br />

.... Bicycle .... Users should be advised where <strong>the</strong>re could<br />

be horses, and <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> aware that <strong>the</strong>y could scare <strong>the</strong><br />

horses. .... (W/0367/X)<br />

We believe that cycling should be restricted to existing …<br />

paths able to bear <strong>the</strong> erosi<strong>on</strong> that goes with mountain<br />

bikes in particular. (X/0193/X/d)<br />

I would like to raise <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> droppings from horses<br />

which, as well as being unsightly <strong>on</strong> a path used by horse<br />

riders, walkers and cyclists, impacts particularly <strong>on</strong> walkers<br />

who may have no alternative but to walk through it.<br />

(A/0162/X)<br />

Horse riding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f track should be str<strong>on</strong>gly discouraged.<br />

(A/0098/X)<br />

Horses, while <strong>the</strong>re is nothing intrinsically against horses,<br />

<strong>the</strong>y can do significant damage especially when ridden<br />

faster ra<strong>the</strong>r than slower, particularly at certain times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

year. Could <strong>the</strong>ir access be limited to paths or tracks<br />

leading directly from <strong>on</strong>e public road to ano<strong>the</strong>r, unless by<br />

The livery yards should provide access areas for <strong>the</strong>ir livery<br />

horses and also provide informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> bridleways in <strong>the</strong>ir area.<br />

(B/1176/X)<br />

We are not supposed to allow animals to move from <strong>on</strong>e farm to<br />

ano<strong>the</strong>r without notifying SEERAD for bio-security reas<strong>on</strong>s. If<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is a movement <strong>on</strong>to my farm I can't sell animals for 21<br />

days. (B/1262/X)<br />

.. it cannot be resp<strong>on</strong>sible to take horses <strong>on</strong> our well prepared<br />

foot and cycle paths in <strong>the</strong> forest without c<strong>on</strong>tributing in a big way<br />

to <strong>the</strong> management <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> path. We could have a lot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

disappointed l<strong>on</strong>g established walking customers upset by a<br />

sudden use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> paths by horses. (B/0738/X)<br />

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prior mutual agreement? (B/0107/X)<br />

Horses, possibly accompanied by <strong>the</strong> riders' dogs, are<br />

liable to damage ground nesting birds and o<strong>the</strong>r forms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

wildlife in field margins. Horses eat grass so why should<br />

<strong>the</strong> farmer provide free meals for some<strong>on</strong>e else's horses?<br />

Horse riders may well spook farm livestock. In relati<strong>on</strong> to<br />

farms next urban settlements, it should be c<strong>on</strong>sidered<br />

irresp<strong>on</strong>sible for people and <strong>the</strong>ir horses to enter enclosed<br />

farmland without <strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land manager.<br />

(B/0956/X)<br />

This secti<strong>on</strong> should advise all users, particularly cyclists<br />

and horse riders, to slow down when <strong>the</strong>y meet or pass<br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs. This is an example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> courtesy. On narrow<br />

stretches <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> path those approaching should wait and give<br />

way to those already <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> path. (G/0759/X)<br />

Horses, and to a lesser extent mountain bikes, will cause<br />

possibly serious damage to <strong>the</strong> turf, and should be<br />

excluded from <strong>the</strong>se areas (playing fields and golf<br />

courses). Mountain bikes and horses also cause damage<br />

when being ridden over fragile land, and should be<br />

restricted to core paths and o<strong>the</strong>r robust tracks.<br />

(N/0773/X)<br />

Menti<strong>on</strong> should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> having horses regularly<br />

wormed if <strong>the</strong>y are to ride <strong>on</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r peoples land. Menti<strong>on</strong><br />

could be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> horse passport scheme being<br />

introduced at <strong>the</strong> end <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year… The advice given to<br />

dismount and lead <strong>the</strong> horse when causing problems for<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r users should be rec<strong>on</strong>sidered, given it is easier to<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol a horse while <strong>on</strong> it ra<strong>the</strong>r than leading it.<br />

(P/0492/X)<br />

Regular use by horses can render a s<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t surface<br />

impossible for pedestrians and cycles, and <strong>the</strong> danger<br />

caused by riders to pedestrians, and especially to children,<br />

means that some routes which are at present heavily used<br />

by young families should be restricted to suitable groups<br />

<strong>on</strong>ly. (Q/0206/X)<br />

The pers<strong>on</strong> <strong>draft</strong>ing <strong>the</strong> code seems to assume (horses)<br />

will endanger walkers and cyclists. Actually, it is <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

It would <strong>the</strong>refore appear it would be reas<strong>on</strong>able for a land<br />

manager to exclude riders <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> grounds that a track was not<br />

suitable with <strong>the</strong> result that damage would occur but this has not<br />

yet been <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> clear in <strong>the</strong> Code. It should be. (E/1257/X)<br />

If we have charged for use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> tracks to horse users in <strong>the</strong><br />

past - will we be able to charge in <strong>the</strong> future? (Similarly with tent<br />

campers) (E/0013/X)<br />

The code should make it quite clear that particular user groups<br />

should not be discriminated against, ei<strong>the</strong>r deliberately or by<br />

omissi<strong>on</strong>, and that all gates must be passable by pedestrians and<br />

equestrians. (G/0040/X)<br />

Cycling and horse riding - … A comm<strong>on</strong> sense approach is<br />

needed with regard to <strong>the</strong> use and locati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> potentially<br />

hazardous fencing. (P/1239/X)<br />

If you have previously had to buy a permit for horse riding in a<br />

country park, can a charge still be levied for <strong>the</strong> permit and if<br />

people ride without a permit are <strong>the</strong>y outwith <strong>the</strong>ir access rights?<br />

(P/1060/X)<br />

Horse Riding: because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disease risk all horse droppings should<br />

be removed, as in secti<strong>on</strong> 3.38 for dogs. (W/0778/X)<br />

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Picknicking,<br />

including BBQs<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

way round. The walkers and particularly <strong>the</strong> cyclists will<br />

naturally frighten <strong>the</strong> horse and could cause <strong>the</strong> best <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

riders <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> most well behaved horse to lose c<strong>on</strong>trol <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> horse and fall ... They should stop, stand still, call out<br />

to advertise <strong>the</strong>ir presence to <strong>the</strong> rider if <strong>the</strong>y have not yet<br />

been seen by <strong>the</strong> rider, and follow <strong>the</strong> instructi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

pers<strong>on</strong> in charge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> livestock. Farmers and riders<br />

should be advised to do this in a clear and pleasant<br />

manner, and thank people for co-operating! (W/0990/X/d)<br />

Cyclists and horse riders should be safe to use paths<br />

across fields with stock - however, <strong>the</strong> prospect <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horse<br />

riders and cyclists in open (ie. not c<strong>on</strong>taining a path or<br />

recognised route) fields c<strong>on</strong>taining livestock… should not<br />

be c<strong>on</strong>sidered as c<strong>on</strong>stituting resp<strong>on</strong>sible access.<br />

(W/0108/X/d)<br />

..<strong>on</strong>ly o<strong>the</strong>r access takers are c<strong>on</strong>sidered, wild life and<br />

farmed animals are ignored … rewrite Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 Para 5.2<br />

table heading Horse riding. (W/0273/X)<br />

Horse riders should be aware that it is inadvisable to ride<br />

through stock, unless <strong>the</strong> animals c<strong>on</strong>cerned are used to<br />

seeing horses, and permissi<strong>on</strong> is granted. (W/0367/X)<br />

It would be possible for a rider entering such fields to find<br />

<strong>on</strong>eself c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>ted by a full grown stalli<strong>on</strong>, and/or a<br />

number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> uncut colts, <strong>the</strong> results <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> which would be<br />

catastrophic… Safety advice is woefully lacking in your<br />

code… riding across land where equines are being kept<br />

should be discouraged. (W/0483/X)<br />

Riding horses are included under access rights, but not<br />

carriage driving horses. This should be corrected. Ridden<br />

horses should not - as a right - be able to use o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

people's fields for 'schooling'. (W/0750/X)<br />

Under <strong>the</strong> Act it would be legitimate to picnic in a field with<br />

animals. This should be specifically discouraged <strong>on</strong> safety<br />

grounds in this secti<strong>on</strong> as well as secti<strong>on</strong> 5. (A/0346/X).<br />

Picnicking. We suggest it is unrealistic to expect land managers<br />

to tell people about areas which have been sprayed, <strong>the</strong> material<br />

used and <strong>the</strong> durati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any risks. In agricultural areas spraying<br />

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Swimming<br />

agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

There is risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fire in such activities where any cooking<br />

etc, is undertaken. (W/0025/X)<br />

I suggest it is bad practice to encourage picnicking in<br />

enclosed grass fields as such fields are likely to give rise<br />

to e coli or increase <strong>the</strong> risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an FMD outbreak if<br />

c<strong>on</strong>taminated meat is left behind. (B/0672/X)<br />

The lighting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fires or lighting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> portable BBQs in open<br />

countryside by any<strong>on</strong>e without <strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

recognised land manager should be illegal and a criminal<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence. Too much damage to <strong>the</strong> countryside is d<strong>on</strong>e<br />

annually by fires. (B/1295/X)<br />

picnicking - <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all <strong>the</strong> activities this <strong>on</strong>e could cause <strong>the</strong><br />

most problem to farmers and managers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> field sports; eg<br />

if a family picnics in <strong>the</strong> middle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a fishing beat revenue<br />

could be lost. Picnicking needs more thought and specific<br />

rules. (W/0907/X)<br />

Do not swim in water reservoirs. The water may be<br />

some<strong>on</strong>e's source <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> drinking water. If in doubt assume it<br />

is. (B/0443/X)<br />

Swimming - add sentence <strong>on</strong> dangers from o<strong>the</strong>r users. It<br />

is not clear whe<strong>the</strong>r swimming is or is not allowed in<br />

reservoirs. (P/1060/X)<br />

Swimming - Add secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> obeying local signs in areas<br />

used by o<strong>the</strong>r water users <strong>on</strong> a commercial basis or which<br />

might be dangerous to <strong>the</strong> swimmers e.g. water skiing.<br />

(P/0548/X)<br />

The reference to swimming in Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 could usefully<br />

highlight that swimming in reservoirs may be particularly<br />

dangerous (R/0868/X).<br />

…it is unclear whe<strong>the</strong>r access can be taken for swimming<br />

purposes in reservoirs and canals? If swimming is<br />

allowed, this should be stated and if not it should be<br />

clarified in <strong>the</strong> secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> canals and reservoirs.. ..<strong>the</strong>re is<br />

an over emphasis <strong>on</strong> fishing interests in this secti<strong>on</strong> with a<br />

lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> advice <strong>on</strong> interacti<strong>on</strong> with o<strong>the</strong>r water users. ..<strong>the</strong><br />

is happening throughout much <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year <strong>on</strong> most <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> land.<br />

Without external funding it is unreas<strong>on</strong>able to expect land<br />

managers to meet <strong>the</strong> costs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> signs and employ <strong>the</strong> staff to<br />

travel around erecting <strong>the</strong>m. (B/1240/X)<br />

Picnicking and wild camping - The possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a fire is very real<br />

- again I have had some unhappy expriences which nearly ended<br />

in serious damage. Can <strong>the</strong>se secti<strong>on</strong>s be streng<strong>the</strong>ned?<br />

(B/0041/X)<br />

However, as a tenant, my main c<strong>on</strong>cern (copy <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> leases<br />

enclosed) is <strong>the</strong> prohibiti<strong>on</strong> included in <strong>the</strong>se leases regarding<br />

picnickers or o<strong>the</strong>r parties access to <strong>the</strong> farm. If I, as a tenant,<br />

fail to abide by <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> lease, I could be given a<br />

notice to quit by my landlord by allowing <strong>the</strong> type <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access this<br />

Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 would allow. (B/1143/X)<br />

Swimming and boating should be specifically excluded from<br />

p<strong>on</strong>ds stocked specifically as commercial fisheries. (U/1172/X)<br />

The issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> swimming (page 51) is tricky. Many land managers<br />

will have particular places for swimming. We would propose that<br />

members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public should move somewhere else if asked by<br />

<strong>the</strong> land manager. O<strong>the</strong>rwise, it is an unfair c<strong>on</strong>straint <strong>on</strong> privacy<br />

and unfettered use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir property. (X/0193/X/d)<br />

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agree with <strong>draft</strong><br />

Code:<br />

changes/additi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

suggested:<br />

advice <strong>on</strong> swimming in pools should be removed unless<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is clear evidence to show that such swimming will<br />

detrimentally affect <strong>the</strong> health <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fish or fishing interests.<br />

(R/1278/X)<br />

Canals and reservoirs are unsafe and unsuitable for<br />

swimming because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> boating activities, underwater<br />

vegetati<strong>on</strong> and debris <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> canal bed, unseen currents,<br />

water c<strong>on</strong>trol systems including locks, lack <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> supervisi<strong>on</strong><br />

and water temperature. Deaths have occurred as a result<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se factors... recommend that for clarity, canals are<br />

specifically excluded from this category. (X/0896/X)<br />

Wild camping "well away from buildings" - does this<br />

require definiti<strong>on</strong>, or wait until it is tested? Again, Norway<br />

model? (A/0825/X)<br />

Wild Camping - guidance should perhaps be given <strong>on</strong><br />

"small numbers", eg. Not more than three small tents.<br />

Advice should be given that people should leave no trace<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir ever having been <strong>the</strong>re. (A/0098/X)<br />

Although open fires are not permitted what does this<br />

include. Cooking equipment could potentially cause as<br />

much damage as an open fire if not used properly,and <strong>on</strong><br />

remote ground how can we stop people lighting open fires<br />

….campsites could be adversely affected <strong>on</strong>ce people are<br />

able to camp anywhere for free. This could have a<br />

detrimental effect <strong>on</strong> small communities who have camp<br />

sites which help <strong>the</strong> local ec<strong>on</strong>omy. The Code appears to<br />

have been written with <strong>the</strong> HIghlands and upland ground in<br />

mind ra<strong>the</strong>r than lowland farmland. Wild camping ... could<br />

have disastrous effects <strong>on</strong> lowland agricultural properties.<br />

It is important that <strong>the</strong> Code guidelines are <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> very<br />

clear to deal with <strong>the</strong> diverse nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong><br />

countryside. (B/0909/X)<br />

The advice in <strong>the</strong> Practical Guide "Do not use an open fire"<br />

is based <strong>on</strong> a criminal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence under <strong>the</strong> Trespass Act<br />

(Annex 1 to <strong>the</strong> Code refers) and should be stated as<br />

Ra<strong>the</strong>r than banning <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fire outright, it might make more<br />

sense to allow for permissi<strong>on</strong> from a landowner. (A/0726/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong> camp area proposed should be agreed with <strong>the</strong> landlord - it<br />

is obvious that in many cases a very small variati<strong>on</strong> would avoid<br />

c<strong>on</strong>flict and disturbance to <strong>the</strong> following day's legitimate activities<br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> land (B/0081/X)<br />

Wild Camping: While this should be acceptable if properly<br />

c<strong>on</strong>ducted <strong>the</strong>re seems to be no mechanism to m<strong>on</strong>itor or define<br />

"wild" camping and <strong>the</strong> ability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers to take acti<strong>on</strong><br />

against those who abuse it - with potentially devastating results is<br />

negligible. (B/1017/X)<br />

... with <strong>the</strong> Code in its present state "No Camping" signs would<br />

probably be illegal. … To have to wait until an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence is<br />

committed before trying to move some<strong>on</strong>e <strong>on</strong> would be wholly<br />

unsatisfactory because trying to move campers who have<br />

"settled" is very difficult and getting <strong>the</strong>m to clear up afterwards is<br />

impossible. (B/0949/X)<br />

The wide range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities including for camping<br />

could be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>cern, unless it is c<strong>on</strong>trolled with sufficient c<strong>on</strong>trol<br />

allowable to managers. (B/0127/X)<br />

…can <strong>the</strong> Land Manager insist <strong>the</strong>y <strong>on</strong>ly camp in a certain area<br />

<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> property and charge <strong>the</strong>m accordingly? (B/0249/X/d)<br />

Advice <strong>on</strong> wild camping seems c<strong>on</strong>tradictory. It should be out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

sight <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any houses and well away from roads or tracks. To<br />

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such. (B/0525/X/d)<br />

It is essential that campers take away with <strong>the</strong>m all rubbish<br />

and left-over food and also do not defacate and urinate<br />

such that evidence remains. I believe that not enough<br />

emphasis is placed <strong>on</strong> this in <strong>the</strong> Code. … we suffer from<br />

quite a lot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> loch-side camping by fishermen, <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten with<br />

vehicles in close proximity. It would be helpful if <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

could distinguish between this type and <strong>the</strong> 'lightweight<br />

and transitory' camping that is envisaged. (B/1334/X)<br />

What is to stop people camping <strong>on</strong> land adjacent to <strong>the</strong><br />

holiday park and using <strong>the</strong> facilities which this company<br />

provides? Trying to run a business is hard enough without<br />

inviting people to take advantage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our efforts and<br />

investment free <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> charge. To that end I would ask you<br />

give serious c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> to clarifying "Wild Camping" <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> final code. I would suggest that it would not be<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able to impose a minimum distance from any<br />

registered Holiday Company or indeed to make Wild<br />

camping truly wild it should not be allowed witin 1-2 miles<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a public road. (D/0682/X)<br />

The wild camping secti<strong>on</strong> should permit small open fires<br />

for cooking/warmth (provided <strong>the</strong>y are kept under<br />

supervisi<strong>on</strong> and properly extinguished). Unless camp fires<br />

are permitted, this represents ano<strong>the</strong>r area where n<strong>on</strong>compliance<br />

with <strong>the</strong> Code is almost guaranteed. Are<br />

camp fires more likely to start wildfires than a gas or petrol<br />

stove that is used inappropriately? (G/0379/X)<br />

Whilst <strong>the</strong> code suggests camping <strong>on</strong> unenclosed land it is<br />

not clear enough. There are major differences in<br />

behaviour and impact <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> hill walkers backpacking <strong>the</strong>ir way<br />

across wild country compared to car-borne campers<br />

seeking to avoid camp-site fees. The latter need to be<br />

heavily discouraged and classed as irresp<strong>on</strong>sible.<br />

Polluti<strong>on</strong> problems exist with c<strong>on</strong>centrated wild camping<br />

(no litter bins and public toilets). If permitted <strong>the</strong> code<br />

should be specific about <strong>the</strong> disposal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> human faeces and<br />

removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> litter, failure to do <strong>the</strong>se adequately should be<br />

defined as irresp<strong>on</strong>sible access. (H/0959/X)<br />

minimise disturbance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wildlife and keep movement to minimum<br />

between 8pm and 8am. Not sure why wild campers should be<br />

camping al<strong>on</strong>g a roadside - surely this is not wild camping.<br />

Suggest <strong>the</strong>y use a paying campsite. Is <strong>the</strong> land manager<br />

supposed to manage <strong>the</strong>se sites at no costs? Is <strong>the</strong> local<br />

authority going to manage a lot <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> isolated random camp sites - I<br />

do not think so. If <strong>the</strong>re is proper wild camping this should not be<br />

<strong>on</strong> areas next to roads. These sound more like free un<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficial<br />

campsites. Not sure if <strong>the</strong>re is clear distincti<strong>on</strong> between camping<br />

and wild camping. One being permitted <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r not. Can land<br />

managers still charge for camping in n<strong>on</strong>-wild locati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

(B/0288/X/d)<br />

The possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a fire is very real - again I have had some<br />

unhappy experiences which nearly ended in serious damage.<br />

Can <strong>the</strong>se secti<strong>on</strong>s be streng<strong>the</strong>ned? (B/0041/X)<br />

Wild Camping - we would hope that this will be limited to ONE<br />

night <strong>on</strong>ly to minimise problems <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sanitati<strong>on</strong>. Here SEPA will<br />

advise you as <strong>the</strong>y have very strict rules for farmers. (B/0419/X)<br />

Wild camping is possible in <strong>the</strong> Highlands without any significant<br />

impact but could have disastrous effects <strong>on</strong> lowland agricultural<br />

properties. (B/0909/X)<br />

Land managers should, for safety reas<strong>on</strong>s, know where people<br />

are over-nighting <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir land (B/1096/X).<br />

The <strong>draft</strong> Code makes no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> availability <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bothies as<br />

overnight shelters and we c<strong>on</strong>sider that it would be appropriate to<br />

do so in Secti<strong>on</strong> 5, possibly as an additi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> entry <strong>on</strong> wild<br />

camping. The following wording is suggested ….. (G/0806/X).<br />

Changing <strong>the</strong> word "wild" to ei<strong>the</strong>r "c<strong>on</strong>gregati<strong>on</strong>al" or "roadside"<br />

in <strong>the</strong> "green box" would clear up this anomaly. (G/1099/X)<br />

Wild camping should not be permited <strong>on</strong> enclosed land and<br />

should be limited to two nights <strong>on</strong>ly. Farmers are advised to<br />

clear stock out <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fields for a minimum period before allowing<br />

people to camp because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> dangers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ecoli, etc. The<br />

dangers from disease should be emphasised and no camping<br />

should be allowed in fields where <strong>the</strong>re is livestock. More<br />

guidance should be given <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rubbish including<br />

human faeces and <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fires for cooking, etc.<br />

(N/0716/X)<br />

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Wild camping near to archaeological sites should be<br />

discouraged here as well as later (this has posed real<br />

problems in some places). Walkers should be<br />

discouraged from erecting shelters <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any sort near to<br />

archaeological remains. (L/0659/X)<br />

Within <strong>the</strong> "Wild Camping" secti<strong>on</strong> it would be beneficial to<br />

differentiate between camping purely for holiday purposes<br />

and wild camping for <strong>the</strong> purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> recreati<strong>on</strong>al passage.<br />

The latter being when jouneying over a l<strong>on</strong>ger distance or<br />

in remote locati<strong>on</strong>s. It would be beneficial to encourage<br />

<strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> formal campsites in locati<strong>on</strong>s where <strong>the</strong>se are<br />

available. Problems generally arise where campers have<br />

vehicles and <strong>the</strong>refore it would be useful to state that wild<br />

camping does not include having a vehicle. The issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

roadside camping could be addressed by providing a<br />

minimum distance (for example 200 metres) from <strong>the</strong> road<br />

that wild camping should take place. (P/0642/X)<br />

It would be reas<strong>on</strong>able for prospective campers to seek<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> from <strong>the</strong> landowner, so that <strong>the</strong> catchment<br />

areas for water supplies can be safeguarded from<br />

c<strong>on</strong>taminati<strong>on</strong> from humans and dogs… Although most<br />

campers may well act resp<strong>on</strong>sibly, <strong>the</strong>re will be an<br />

increased risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fire in plantati<strong>on</strong>s and <strong>on</strong> moorland.<br />

(W/0417/X)<br />

Clarify that it would be irresp<strong>on</strong>sible to go wild camping in<br />

fields heavily stocked with livestock, for Health and Safety<br />

as well as Animal Welfare reas<strong>on</strong>s. Sheep and cows can<br />

destroy tents in <strong>the</strong> dark (by mistake), and can injure<br />

<strong>the</strong>mselves as well as <strong>the</strong> campers. Also, <strong>the</strong> e-coli and<br />

biosecurity risks due to food handling next to livestock.<br />

(W/0947/X/d).<br />

Will land managers be able to claim against <strong>the</strong> Council for<br />

damage d<strong>on</strong>e by wild camping? (W/0212/X)<br />

Specify what 'close to a house' means. Permissi<strong>on</strong> to camp to<br />

be sought if within a radius <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 200m would seem reas<strong>on</strong>able<br />

(W/0789/X)<br />

How is wild camping going to be regulated near to facilities like<br />

visitor centres and campsites? What is "well away"? Should a<br />

distance be specified from <strong>the</strong>se types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> facilities and from<br />

public roads? (X/1036/X)<br />

"Wild camping" needs a better definiti<strong>on</strong> and clearer guidelines<br />

should be available for both users and land managers. The code<br />

needs to acknowledge <strong>the</strong> associated problems caused by wild<br />

camping as well as <strong>the</strong> scale <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> issue in particularly sensitive<br />

areas. These can lead to unacceptable impacts <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> natural<br />

heritage and land management interests. The situati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> Arran<br />

dem<strong>on</strong>strates that <strong>the</strong>re is both wild camping for passage across<br />

land and wild camping for access within an area. While <strong>the</strong> code<br />

appears to address <strong>the</strong> former, wild camping for access to<br />

summits and rock climbs etc. does not seem to be covered.<br />

(X/1385/X)<br />

… a good example <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> where local byelaws would be appropriate<br />

to act in support <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> local community. (X/0405/X/d)<br />

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Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 : Interpreting <strong>the</strong> rights and resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities: a practical guide<br />

Table showing Places / Sporting / O<strong>the</strong>r Recreati<strong>on</strong>al Activities.<br />

22. Can you think <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any o<strong>the</strong>r situati<strong>on</strong>s that might be regularly encountered which should be included in <strong>the</strong> table?<br />

Resp<strong>on</strong>ses:<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r situati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

should be included<br />

- yes<br />

Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for<br />

those exercising access rights.<br />

Night-time access - a secti<strong>on</strong> specifically dealing with<br />

night-time access is needed. (B/0574/X)<br />

Can excessive noise be menti<strong>on</strong>ed as a form <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able behaviour? (B/1187/X)<br />

Yes - Children. The code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fers no guidance about<br />

children exercising right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access. (B/1208/X)<br />

Walking: An additi<strong>on</strong>al secti<strong>on</strong> should be added<br />

encouraging walkers to be aware <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> o<strong>the</strong>r users, and to<br />

make sure <strong>the</strong>ir dogs do not interfere with o<strong>the</strong>r users<br />

exercising <strong>the</strong>ir access rights. (G/1098/X)<br />

Yes <strong>the</strong> Code ….should provide informati<strong>on</strong> and guidance<br />

<strong>on</strong> access to open spaces in urban areas. (H/1103/X)<br />

The Code should deal expressly with children as access<br />

takers particularly without adults. (H/1196/X)<br />

Nudists ….. Is this something <strong>the</strong> Code could cover?<br />

(H/1118/X)<br />

Additi<strong>on</strong> to places and resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour table, would<br />

suggest detailing c<strong>on</strong>duct in relati<strong>on</strong> to crossing railway<br />

lines, ie at level crossings. (P/0640/X)<br />

Could include guidance <strong>on</strong>… sustainable transport<br />

opti<strong>on</strong>s. (P/0928/X)<br />

Guidance should be provided about promoti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> routes in<br />

guide books. Problems currently arise where authors<br />

promote inappropriate routes with minimal regard for land<br />

management or access management issues. (P/1219/X)<br />

Night-time access should be given a secti<strong>on</strong> (Q/1178/X)<br />

There is no menti<strong>on</strong> anywhere in <strong>the</strong> document <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> right<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access where <strong>the</strong>re are wind farms. In some cases,<br />

<strong>the</strong>re are padlocked gates with no right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> entry.<br />

(Q/1270/X)<br />

Certain activities missed out - for example, parascending,<br />

hang gliding, model aeroplane flying, model powerboats,<br />

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Selected Quotati<strong>on</strong>s – comments <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> guidance for land<br />

managers.<br />

..<strong>the</strong>re is a wide spectrum <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> miscellaneous land types varying<br />

from rough sheep grazing and grassland to patches <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> green<br />

urban areas. The Access Code as it is <strong>draft</strong>ed, seems to treat<br />

each <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land as <strong>on</strong>e. This is a fundamental<br />

mistake. ... Pages 46,47,48,49 and 50: The detail here is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten<br />

unpractical, and sometimes unreas<strong>on</strong>able. Here again too, <strong>the</strong><br />

Access Code needs to be much simpler, taking into account <strong>the</strong><br />

different types <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land. (B/0461/X)<br />

Please, please could an item be included in relati<strong>on</strong> to access<br />

near all private homes, which surely has to include farmhouses?<br />

(B/0599/X/d)<br />

Separate secti<strong>on</strong>s are required <strong>on</strong> 'wildfowling' and 'shooting at<br />

dusk' with a new secti<strong>on</strong> inserted specifically covering 'pest and<br />

predator c<strong>on</strong>trol'. (J/1058/X)<br />

Why is <strong>the</strong> subject <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wind farms omitted? (Q/1270/X)<br />

I think it would be in every<strong>on</strong>e's interest if it were clarified in <strong>the</strong><br />

code just what is and isn't acceptable behaviour by both<br />

owners/managers and <strong>the</strong> public wishing access in or around<br />

harbour areas. (W/0414/X)<br />

Fishing is a recreati<strong>on</strong>al activity in <strong>the</strong> same way canoeing is and<br />

should be in <strong>the</strong> "o<strong>the</strong>r recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities" secti<strong>on</strong>:<br />

(W/0573/X)


O<strong>the</strong>r situati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

should be included<br />

– no<br />

Carriage driving<br />

Target shooting<br />

fossil collecting, beach playing and combing, rock<br />

climbing, etc. (U/0922/X)<br />

Fishing is a recreati<strong>on</strong>al activity in <strong>the</strong> same way canoeing<br />

is and should be in <strong>the</strong> "o<strong>the</strong>r recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities"<br />

secti<strong>on</strong>: (W/0573/X)<br />

A major c<strong>on</strong>cern is <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fireworks … Some means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

making this an excluded activity should be included.<br />

(W/0555/X)<br />

Yes Should potholing, caving, dog walking and <strong>the</strong><br />

requirements <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> DDA be menti<strong>on</strong>ed? (W/1310/X/d)<br />

I am c<strong>on</strong>cerned that it makes no reference to horse driving<br />

… <strong>the</strong>re should be a specific reference to our recreati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>on</strong> page 24 and under <strong>the</strong> table <strong>on</strong> page 51. (G/0546/X)<br />

No menti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> clay pige<strong>on</strong> shooting. This <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten<br />

takes place in a field and access will be affected, and <strong>the</strong>re<br />

are obvious health and safety issues even for those <strong>on</strong><br />

neighbouring paths or field margins. (A/0346/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re is … a serious omissi<strong>on</strong> in that <strong>the</strong>re is no menti<strong>on</strong><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Target Sports". Target Sports include Target Rifle;<br />

Match Rifle; Sporting Rifle; Small-bore Rifle; Target<br />

Archery and Field Archery; Crossbow; Clay Target, and<br />

even perhaps Biathl<strong>on</strong>. … Target sports, by definiti<strong>on</strong>,<br />

release projectiles towards targets at varying distances<br />

according to <strong>the</strong> disciplines practiced and it follows that<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is, <strong>the</strong>refore, a target danger area involved. ... A<br />

range danger area is defined as an area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ground, water<br />

or air within which any projectile will safely fall without<br />

hazard or danger to o<strong>the</strong>r users. Safety to o<strong>the</strong>r users is<br />

paramount (J/0023/X)<br />

244<br />

No; any such situati<strong>on</strong>s should become apparent over time, and<br />

can be addressed by <strong>the</strong> review process. (A/0469/X)<br />

We have been informed quite categorically that, unless carriage<br />

drivers as a group are menti<strong>on</strong>ed BY NAME in <strong>the</strong> new<br />

legislati<strong>on</strong>, we will always be excluded from free access to <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside. As a result drivers as a group can be charged for<br />

access although riders <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horses can't. (A/0449/X)<br />

.. it is noted that no c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> at all has been given for access<br />

by horse carriage drivers. The opportunities for horse carriage<br />

driving <strong>on</strong> suitable routes are particularly limited in many areas,<br />

with many <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> limited number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> bridleways and tracks suitable<br />

for use by horses, being naturally or deliberately denied to horse<br />

carriages. (W/0986/X)<br />

In secti<strong>on</strong> 5 under <strong>the</strong> "Sporting Activities" heading, we suggest<br />

inserting an extra paragraph to cover rifle and archery ranges<br />

and <strong>the</strong> safety cord<strong>on</strong> around <strong>the</strong>m. (W/0119/X)<br />

Suggest inserting an extra paragraph to cover rifle and archery<br />

ranges and <strong>the</strong> safety cord<strong>on</strong> around <strong>the</strong>m. This is particularly<br />

relevant in places such as <strong>the</strong> Atholl Estate where a rifle club's<br />

range lies beside an estate road that is used by hill walkers as an<br />

access track. (W/119/X)


Fires<br />

Wild Camping states 'do not use an open fire'. What about<br />

fires in a general sense? eg <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> beach, Nov 5 and<br />

Jubilee Celebrati<strong>on</strong>s. I think it is very important to give<br />

clear advice <strong>on</strong> safe disposal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> smoking materials - <strong>the</strong>re<br />

is nothing in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> code. (A/0719/X/d)<br />

Fur<strong>the</strong>r informati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> lighting fires and parking cars <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> edge <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land where access is exercised should be<br />

included. (A/0958/X)<br />

Modern camping equipment is so good and light that <strong>the</strong>re<br />

should be a formal line <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code prohibiting <strong>the</strong> lighting<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fires in <strong>the</strong> countryside unless for land management<br />

purposes. (B/0257/X)<br />

In our area at least <strong>the</strong> Forestry Commissi<strong>on</strong> prohibits any<br />

fire for obvious reas<strong>on</strong>s…Casual fires not fully<br />

extinguished have caused catastrophic damage in<br />

moorland and forestry in several areas <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Highlands<br />

this spring. (B/0081/X)<br />

I would … like to see a secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> lighting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fires,<br />

clarifying exactly what <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong> with this is. (B/0794/X)<br />

Fire is devastating to both <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment and <strong>the</strong> wildlife<br />

in it, and <strong>the</strong> Code should make clear that <strong>the</strong> lighting <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

open fires is totally forbidden, except where specifically<br />

allowed for. (B/1160/X)<br />

There should be clarificati<strong>on</strong> that open fires are not<br />

acceptable, and that instant barbecues and fit for purpose<br />

camp-fire cookers may be acceptable, but <strong>on</strong>ly in properly<br />

prepared stances. There should be a warning against<br />

using <strong>the</strong>m where <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>tainer is in c<strong>on</strong>tact with<br />

inflammable material. ... It is essential that people do NOT<br />

light fire <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any sort in woodland. (H/0915/X)<br />

Fires are a great source <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> worry for land managers, not<br />

just because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> dangers, but also because those who<br />

light <strong>the</strong>m so <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten resort to destroying trees, fences and<br />

gates in order to obtain fuel. They should be dealt with<br />

much more prominently at Secti<strong>on</strong> 3, and it should be<br />

stated in terms that lighting a fire without <strong>the</strong> land<br />

manager's permissi<strong>on</strong> is irresp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour which will<br />

result in loss <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access. (P/0375/X)<br />

There does not appear to be any reference to <strong>the</strong> danger<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dropping lighted cigarettes in <strong>the</strong> vicinity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ripe cereal<br />

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Beaches<br />

Shooting – pest<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol<br />

crops and o<strong>the</strong>r vegetati<strong>on</strong> in dry wea<strong>the</strong>r. (Q/0499/X)<br />

People should not be free to light fires anywhere in <strong>the</strong><br />

countryside… portable barbecues very frequently cause<br />

damage to places where <strong>the</strong>y are lit. (W/0217/X)<br />

The seashore seems to be prominent for its omissi<strong>on</strong>;<br />

(D/0022/X)<br />

Coastal dunes, marshes and bogs. Some sea cliff<br />

vegetati<strong>on</strong> could also be included as pr<strong>on</strong>e to damage<br />

from rockclimbing. (K/1241/X)<br />

A note about nesting seabirds, safety and use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> n<strong>on</strong><br />

motorised craft such as kite buggies and land yachts.<br />

(P/0899/X)<br />

Water access: substantially more detailed guidance is<br />

needed <strong>on</strong> anchoring, beaching and launching<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sibilities (The Nati<strong>on</strong>al Park has a great deal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

experience in this area and would welcome <strong>the</strong> opportunity<br />

to share this). (P/1219/X)<br />

Coastal areas, especially beaches and dunes, are <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> great<br />

attracti<strong>on</strong> and are sadly where unc<strong>on</strong>trolled access has<br />

had major impact <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> natural envir<strong>on</strong>ment.<br />

Unc<strong>on</strong>trolled access has impacted <strong>on</strong> plant-life, and <strong>on</strong><br />

breeding populati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> shorebirds. Wintering bird<br />

populati<strong>on</strong>s using <strong>the</strong>se as feeding areas or high tide<br />

roosts are also seriously affected. .... <strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>mental<br />

problem <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access in this area is not acknowledged in <strong>the</strong><br />

Code. .... this must be redressed urgently. (Q/0932/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> code could be improved by clearly defining where <strong>the</strong><br />

access rights extend to - high tide line, low tide line? What<br />

about beaches? I think most people will not be clear about<br />

<strong>the</strong> legal definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "foreshore". (W/0979/X)<br />

Most vermin c<strong>on</strong>trol is carried <strong>on</strong> at night … The public<br />

cannot be aware where shooting is taking place during <strong>the</strong><br />

hours <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> darkness; hence <strong>the</strong>y would be at c<strong>on</strong>siderable<br />

pers<strong>on</strong>al risk. (W/1014/X)<br />

246<br />

…it would be helpful if <strong>the</strong> existing rights <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> foreshore were<br />

clarified. (A/0425/X)<br />

…some beaches and shorelines are grazings and must be<br />

treated as such. (B/0466/X/d)<br />

A blanket right to invade foreshores could have a detrimental<br />

effect <strong>on</strong> flora and fauna <strong>the</strong>re and <strong>the</strong> regenerati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> essential<br />

vegetati<strong>on</strong> necessary to bind foreshores damaged by flooding.<br />

(H/0534/X)<br />

shooting <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> foreshore - wildfowling - though <strong>the</strong> public rights<br />

to recreati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> foreshore, including shooting, are not<br />

currently affected by this legislati<strong>on</strong>. Perhaps this could be<br />

stated (H/0808/X).<br />

Vermin c<strong>on</strong>trol was identified as potentially harmful operati<strong>on</strong> but<br />

no guidance was given to <strong>the</strong> individual carrying it out.<br />

(B/1063/X)<br />

Shooting is also <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten d<strong>on</strong>e at dusk when visibility is not good.<br />

This could be very dangerous and some directi<strong>on</strong> from <strong>the</strong> code<br />

to <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fer advice <strong>on</strong> how to warn <strong>the</strong> public <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se activities and<br />

for <strong>the</strong> public in how to act. (B/1117/X)<br />

Keepers carry out predator c<strong>on</strong>trol at night and in <strong>the</strong> early<br />

morning and it is potentially dangerous for folk campng<br />

(B/1173/X)


Walking with dogs<br />

A secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> dogs, drawing toge<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> points for dog<br />

owners, and what land managers should expect would be<br />

useful. (A/1070/X/d)<br />

Let's build <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> positive, involve and include dog<br />

walkers, encourage resp<strong>on</strong>sible access by all and not<br />

marginalise our canines and <strong>the</strong>ir recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

compani<strong>on</strong>s. (A/1136/X/d)<br />

Advice should also be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fered as to how dogs should be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trolled when approaching horse riders, how horse<br />

riders might resp<strong>on</strong>d to dogs and how horse riders<br />

<strong>the</strong>mselves might c<strong>on</strong>trol <strong>the</strong>ir own accompanying dogs.<br />

(G/0917/X)<br />

Secti<strong>on</strong> 5 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code should include an extra<br />

"user/activity" category - "dogwalking". In terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pers<strong>on</strong>visits<br />

per year this is probably <strong>the</strong> most significant<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al activity in <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> countryside; and it is<br />

<strong>the</strong> number <strong>on</strong>e problem cited by land managers. ... It is<br />

felt that <strong>the</strong> code could provide fur<strong>the</strong>r clarificati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> this<br />

issue. (P/0899/X)<br />

The practice <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 'Lamping' (shooting rabbits and foxes using car<br />

headlights) should be menti<strong>on</strong>ed to avoid injury to <strong>the</strong> public.<br />

(G/0973/X)<br />

hunting with hounds may be restricted but it is not banned;<br />

falc<strong>on</strong>ry …; related management activity, such as predati<strong>on</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>trol, should also be included. (J/1058/X)<br />

Litter and pers<strong>on</strong>al<br />

hygiene<br />

Also for managers and o<strong>the</strong>rs to be more envir<strong>on</strong>mentally friendly<br />

in <strong>the</strong> disposal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> plastic, old fencing, wire and old machinery -<br />

half-buried wire/old metal can cause serious injury to horses.<br />

(G/1192/X)<br />

The matter <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> locking gates that afford access to fields adjacent<br />

to public roads or tracks al<strong>on</strong>g which vehicles can be driven will<br />

have to be re-addressed and clarified. Since <strong>the</strong> introducti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> Landfill Tax <strong>the</strong> disposal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> household rubbish, unwanted<br />

domestic appliances and furniture by fly tipping in rural locati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

has become an escalating problem. ... This acti<strong>on</strong> taken by land<br />

managers in an effort to tackle <strong>the</strong> problem <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fly tipping ought to<br />

be encouraged ra<strong>the</strong>r than discouraged. (Q/0112/X)<br />

Group activities However, bringing groups <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people <strong>on</strong> a regular basis, ... is likely<br />

to cause disturbance or harm. … It seems that <strong>the</strong> land manager<br />

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Above and below Access extends both above and below <strong>the</strong> ground.<br />

ground recreati<strong>on</strong> Livestock have stampeded as a result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> hot air ballo<strong>on</strong>s<br />

and microlights. Gliders and hot air ballo<strong>on</strong>s cannot<br />

always predict where <strong>the</strong>y will land and crops can be<br />

damaged. Guidance should be given for such activities.<br />

Is a hot air ballo<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sidered motorised? (B/0443/X)<br />

Remotely c<strong>on</strong>trolled model aircraft, in particular, can be<br />

intimidating to o<strong>the</strong>r land users and dangerous to horse<br />

riders. (B/1195/X)<br />

There is no reference to take <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f and landing sites for<br />

ballo<strong>on</strong>ing, hang gliding or gliding. (H/0807/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong>re is no specific reference to air and underground<br />

activities. There are c<strong>on</strong>cerns about activities such as<br />

hang-gliding and disturbance to farm animals and wildlife.<br />

(H/1103/X)<br />

...should be menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> caving and activities such as hang<br />

gliding and paragliding. (P/1060/X)<br />

Where <strong>the</strong>re are stock in fields, no planes, hang gliders,<br />

paragliders or ballo<strong>on</strong>s should cross over those fields.<br />

(W/0554/X)<br />

Microlite aircraft, or model aircraft or kites should not be<br />

flown over enclosed fields or near to stock <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> any kind as it<br />

will cause <strong>the</strong>m to panic and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten go berserk. (X/0122/X)<br />

Pursuits requiring <strong>the</strong> transport <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> special equipment, and<br />

involving a risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> injury, should have defined take-<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f and<br />

landing areas, so that vehicle access and recovery can be<br />

mutually agreed by authorities and <strong>the</strong> landowner.<br />

(X/0192/X/d)<br />

Burial grounds No specific menti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> burial grounds which are<br />

248<br />

would have little recourse if leck sites were being disturbed and<br />

exploited by o<strong>the</strong>rs for pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>it or commercial activity. (B/0583/X)<br />

...we are a private business. We <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se investments (paths,<br />

fencing, regenerati<strong>on</strong> and bridges) in <strong>the</strong> firm belief that we would<br />

expand our estate enterprises <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wildlife tourism, sporting tourism<br />

and native breed cattle. As with o<strong>the</strong>r land owners, we have<br />

always welcomed <strong>the</strong> private access-taker but do not agree that<br />

<strong>the</strong> capital expenditure incurred ..should be for <strong>the</strong> benefit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

o<strong>the</strong>r businesses without recompense. (E/0208/X)<br />

Scout and guide camps should have <strong>the</strong> same protecti<strong>on</strong> as land<br />

next to schools. (W/0641/X)<br />

Access applying in <strong>the</strong> air- Ballo<strong>on</strong>ing, gliding, gyros and<br />

parascending etc, all must, at <strong>the</strong> end <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> flight, have a<br />

recovery stage. This normally will involve a vehicle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> some sort,<br />

motorised access is not allowed. (B/0446/X)<br />

Who will be resp<strong>on</strong>sible for <strong>the</strong> safety <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cavers <strong>on</strong> private land?<br />

(E/1113/X)


Parks<br />

Rock climbing<br />

sometimes now comparatively inaccessible spots.<br />

Perhaps a menti<strong>on</strong> under Historic Sites (pp48-9) or in<br />

Paragraph 3.34 would be appropriate. (Q/0424/X)<br />

Burial grounds… appear to receive no specific menti<strong>on</strong> in<br />

<strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. Small grounds should be readily skirted. I<br />

see no reas<strong>on</strong>able objecti<strong>on</strong> to access to larger burial<br />

grounds for <strong>the</strong> purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> crossing <strong>the</strong>m, but resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

access should be by use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> existing paths or, where <strong>the</strong>re<br />

are no obvious paths, by passing between rows <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> graves<br />

ra<strong>the</strong>r than across <strong>the</strong>m. (W/0511/X)<br />

There is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> country or urban parks in <strong>the</strong><br />

places secti<strong>on</strong>. Given <strong>the</strong> large numbers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people who<br />

take access in <strong>the</strong>se places, <strong>the</strong>y should be menti<strong>on</strong>ed if<br />

<strong>on</strong>ly to inform <strong>the</strong> public that access rights apply in such<br />

places. (P/0493/X)<br />

There are specific issues associated with crags and cliffs<br />

where people may wish to climb. These include nesting<br />

birds and members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public walking below. (A/958/X)<br />

Climbing… must be included in <strong>the</strong> code, as well as<br />

access c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong>s with regard to bird nesting; issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

damage relating to drilling bolts and "rock gardening".<br />

(W/0246/X)<br />

...add <strong>the</strong> following categories, I) abseiling which would be<br />

resisted <strong>on</strong> canal structures ii) <strong>the</strong> issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to<br />

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Parks - access is not <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten allowed at night and at o<strong>the</strong>r times,<br />

also walking <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> grass may not be allowed. (B/0446/X)<br />

Are caravan parks, privately or council owned, regarded as<br />

excluded from <strong>the</strong> access code, and if so, under what paragraph<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> code? (D/0550/X)<br />

A large number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people take access in country parks, urban<br />

parks and o<strong>the</strong>r green spaces, a secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong>se areas could be<br />

included under <strong>the</strong> "places" secti<strong>on</strong>. (P/0491/X)<br />

… privately owned recreati<strong>on</strong>al areas within housing<br />

developments … several areas within <strong>the</strong> estate have been set<br />

aside for <strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> residents. The areas<br />

were sold by <strong>the</strong> developers to a company called The Green Belt<br />

Co. who levy an annual charge <strong>on</strong> all residents for <strong>the</strong><br />

maintainance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> areas and equipment, eg. swings, etc,<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tained in <strong>the</strong>m. ... it seems fairly clear that <strong>the</strong>se areas are not<br />

really gardens separated from houses but are more in <strong>the</strong> nature<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> parks. C<strong>on</strong>sequently it seems to me that <strong>the</strong> access rights<br />

would apply to such areas. .. I do not think it would be right to<br />

allow <strong>the</strong> public to have access to use <strong>the</strong> recreati<strong>on</strong>al equipment<br />

in such areas, which residents are paying to provide and<br />

maintain. (W/0414/X)


GM crops<br />

Removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> natural<br />

items<br />

frozen and partially frozen inland water. (X/0896/X)<br />

A notable omissi<strong>on</strong> is any menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> situati<strong>on</strong>s where a<br />

field may have been planted with genetically modified<br />

crops. The danger here would be <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>taminati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Perhaps such access rights would be excluded from such<br />

fields by secti<strong>on</strong> 2.15 <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code (land or water where<br />

public access is specifically prohibited). (A/0135/X)<br />

Does <strong>the</strong> taking <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> samples for scientific purposes (ei<strong>the</strong>r<br />

pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>essi<strong>on</strong>al, educati<strong>on</strong>al or amateur) c<strong>on</strong>stitute damage?<br />

It probably does if <strong>the</strong> removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> samples significantly<br />

reduces that which remains, or <strong>the</strong> result <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sampling is<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fensively obvious (for example coring <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rock outcrops).<br />

(A/0838/X)<br />

Any access taker who removes anything from <strong>the</strong> land is<br />

stealing from <strong>the</strong> landowner's property and in doing that is<br />

stealing from <strong>the</strong> land owner himself. The code should<br />

state that any<strong>on</strong>e taking access in <strong>the</strong> countryside should<br />

not leave farmland with anything removed from <strong>the</strong> land.<br />

(B/0569/X)<br />

Under <strong>the</strong> Wildlife and Countryside Act uprooting any plant<br />

is an <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fence, is this applicable to fungi which under <strong>the</strong><br />

Access Code can be picked for private c<strong>on</strong>sumpti<strong>on</strong>?<br />

(B/1187/X)<br />

Missing from this secti<strong>on</strong> is anything <strong>on</strong> sample collecti<strong>on</strong><br />

for educati<strong>on</strong>al purposes, eg plant, rock (geological) or<br />

soil samples. (G/0960/X)<br />

...advise amateur archaeologists and metal detectorists to<br />

report "finds" to <strong>the</strong> relevant authority. Also that gem<br />

hunters can damage not <strong>on</strong>ly important rock features but<br />

splintered rocks can damage vegetati<strong>on</strong>. (P/0899/X)<br />

There is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> in <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> fossil<br />

collecti<strong>on</strong>. We would suggest that this may have a similar<br />

status to moss or mushroom picking and <strong>the</strong>refore would<br />

suggest it is included in <strong>the</strong> examples in this secti<strong>on</strong>, (pg<br />

27, 2.17). (P/1247/X)<br />

I note that respecting geology and carrying away rocks or<br />

fossils is not menti<strong>on</strong>ed. (W/0221/X)<br />

...severe c<strong>on</strong>cerns about <strong>the</strong> implied permissi<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> Code<br />

appears to extend to taking things away from land <strong>on</strong> a<br />

n<strong>on</strong>-commercial basis …in <strong>the</strong> ordinary understanding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

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The Code should also refer to <strong>the</strong> existing <strong>Scottish</strong> Wild<br />

Mushroom Code, which was put toge<strong>the</strong>r in co-operati<strong>on</strong><br />

between landowners, harvesters and c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> bodies. …it<br />

is..difficult to distinguish what c<strong>on</strong>stitutes commercial<br />

harvesting….Permit schemes for harvesting n<strong>on</strong>-timber forest<br />

products have been discussed for some time, and would provide<br />

a formal means <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> administering permissi<strong>on</strong> and <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> m<strong>on</strong>itoring<br />

harvesting. (L/0504/X)


Designed<br />

Landscapes and<br />

Gardens<br />

<strong>the</strong> criminal law a pers<strong>on</strong> taking items such as trees,<br />

plants, minerals, vegetables or fruit from land that does<br />

not bel<strong>on</strong>g to <strong>the</strong>m is committing <strong>the</strong>ft, .....a pers<strong>on</strong> coming<br />

<strong>on</strong>to land in order, eg to help himself to Christmas trees for<br />

his family, to a load <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> firewood or to a substantial amount<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> rock or gravel for his garden is about to embark <strong>on</strong><br />

criminal activity, and <strong>the</strong> Code should not suggest that that<br />

pers<strong>on</strong> would have access rights. (W/0848/X)<br />

On small cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ts and farms <strong>the</strong> wild mushrooms and berries<br />

may <strong>on</strong>ly be sufficient for that farm or cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>t's own needs.<br />

(And fencing things <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f is expensive!) (W/0100/d)<br />

A right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access should not give a right to prospect with a<br />

metal detector without <strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> owner.<br />

(W/1141/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong> situati<strong>on</strong> regarding houses and gardens should be<br />

explained again within this secti<strong>on</strong> (B/1093/X).<br />

In practice it is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten difficult to define what is amenity land<br />

and what is garden in that in many instances <strong>the</strong> two blend<br />

seamlessly <strong>on</strong>e into <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r. As a result, land managers<br />

will not be able to determine <strong>the</strong> extent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>ir privacy and<br />

users will be equally c<strong>on</strong>fused. (B/0041/X)<br />

...access should not be exercised by <strong>the</strong> public over <strong>the</strong><br />

grounds and immediate Policies <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> an important planned<br />

landscape round a mansi<strong>on</strong> house. (X/0656/X)<br />

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Where <strong>the</strong>re is a valuable and movable property in <strong>the</strong> open, <strong>the</strong><br />

owner should be able to take appropriate measures for its<br />

security, including locking gates in his absence, he/she woud be<br />

obliged to make arrangements for access <strong>on</strong> request. Where an<br />

owner/manager has invested funds in creating an attracti<strong>on</strong><br />

which is not part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> natural heritage, o<strong>the</strong>r parties should not<br />

be able to exploit <strong>the</strong> access provisi<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Act for pers<strong>on</strong>al<br />

financial gain <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> property without <strong>the</strong> owner/managers'<br />

permissi<strong>on</strong> and if requested an appropriate c<strong>on</strong>tributi<strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong><br />

upkeep <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> project. (B/0252/X)<br />

I understand that gardens, which are existing "paid entry<br />

attracti<strong>on</strong>s", are exempt from access; however I think access<br />

should be allowed when such gardens are closed, even when<br />

<strong>the</strong>y may <strong>on</strong>ly be open occasi<strong>on</strong>ally. (B/0592/X)<br />

It appears from a study <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Draft Access Code that <strong>the</strong> general<br />

public may access <strong>the</strong>se properties which are bey<strong>on</strong>d <strong>the</strong><br />

curtilage <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> owner's house 365 days <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> year and 24 hours<br />

day and night. It also seems that commercial tour guides can<br />

bring paying clients to view <strong>the</strong>se gardens without <strong>the</strong> garden<br />

owner or charity benefiting. If this is <strong>the</strong> case <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>re may be<br />

two results: 1. Owners may no l<strong>on</strong>ger be prepared to expend<br />

time, energy and m<strong>on</strong>ey maintaining <strong>the</strong> properties. 2. The<br />

general public will be unwilling to pay to visit <strong>the</strong>wse more<br />

extensive properties which are <strong>on</strong>ly open for a limited number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

days in <strong>the</strong> year. The financial c<strong>on</strong>sequences to <strong>the</strong> charities


Land set out for<br />

Recreati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

Purposes<br />

Under <strong>the</strong> Land Reform (Scotland) Act it would appear that<br />

a horse riding business could use <strong>the</strong> facilities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> ano<strong>the</strong>r<br />

horse riding business without <strong>the</strong> permissi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

business that has set up and maintained <strong>the</strong> facilities.<br />

Could such acti<strong>on</strong> be c<strong>on</strong>sidered irresp<strong>on</strong>sible?<br />

(B/0443/X)<br />

How will commercial access takers be regulated? Will<br />

<strong>the</strong>y have to have <strong>the</strong>ir own insurance? In <strong>the</strong> event that a<br />

land user wants to establish a commercial access<br />

business <strong>on</strong> his or her own land, will this take precedence?<br />

(B/1301/X)<br />

…equestrian centre cross-country course … what happens<br />

when a rider wishes to make use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> course: has he or<br />

she to check <strong>the</strong> entire area (currently seventy acres) to<br />

verify that <strong>the</strong>re is no-<strong>on</strong>e passing through before setting<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f? And … how can he or she be sure that no-<strong>on</strong>e has<br />

wandered in since <strong>the</strong> check was <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>? The dangers are<br />

obvious and very serious. (B/0250/X)<br />

Our sports fields are used regularly by our clients - we<br />

would regard it as unreas<strong>on</strong>able that <strong>the</strong>se could be used<br />

as and when o<strong>the</strong>rs wish, with potential c<strong>on</strong>fr<strong>on</strong>tati<strong>on</strong><br />

when asking <strong>the</strong>m to leave so that those who have paid for<br />

it can enjoy <strong>the</strong>m. In additi<strong>on</strong> it appears to be<br />

unreas<strong>on</strong>able that <strong>the</strong> public can use our facilities without<br />

in any way c<strong>on</strong>tributing to <strong>the</strong>ir upkeep, repair and<br />

maintenance. Is it privilege without resp<strong>on</strong>sibility?<br />

(D/1206/X)<br />

The code also suggests that use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> public slipways is<br />

within <strong>the</strong> rights, but what about p<strong>on</strong>to<strong>on</strong>s and lochside<br />

beaches? These may have been put in and are<br />

maintained by commercial organisati<strong>on</strong>s. If <strong>the</strong>se<br />

structures are all within an area "developed for a<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al purpose" is public access not available to<br />

<strong>the</strong>m whilst in use? A clarificati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> "in use" is required.<br />

Fur<strong>the</strong>r clarificati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> term open-air recreati<strong>on</strong> is<br />

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menti<strong>on</strong>ed above could be disastrous. (L/0985/X)<br />

... a generic symbol or wording should be agreed up<strong>on</strong> which can<br />

be used by those with private gardens ….. to make people aware<br />

that <strong>the</strong>re are areas over which <strong>the</strong>y have no right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access<br />

(W/1085/X).<br />

Where a land manager has or can develop a diversificati<strong>on</strong><br />

enterprise where he charges for allowing access over his ground<br />

<strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong>re should be no right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access over that ground to<br />

pursue that or a similar activity, i.e p<strong>on</strong>y hacking <strong>on</strong> farm land.<br />

No pers<strong>on</strong> should be allowed to use <strong>the</strong> right <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access to land<br />

for commercial gain where it would c<strong>on</strong>flict with a commercial<br />

enterprise that is currently run by <strong>the</strong> land manager. (B/0215/X)<br />

For example, as horse riding is now permitted, where som<strong>on</strong>e<br />

brings a group or class <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> cross-country riders <strong>on</strong>to land, where<br />

<strong>the</strong> owner/manager <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> that land already runs a riding school or<br />

trekking facility in some form, is <strong>the</strong>re any remedy for what may<br />

seem to be unfair competiti<strong>on</strong>? Also erosi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

paths/bridleways will be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> worse with no c<strong>on</strong>tributi<strong>on</strong> to<br />

repair and maintainence, o<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>the</strong> possibility <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a voluntary<br />

<strong>on</strong>e, from <strong>the</strong> invading commercial user. (W/0217/X)<br />

We rent land from an estate <strong>on</strong> which we have erected a crosscountry<br />

course. This is <strong>on</strong>ly used for club competiti<strong>on</strong>s and<br />

formal training events, for which a charge is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>. Club<br />

members are not allowed to use <strong>the</strong> course informally at o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

times. The course is <strong>on</strong> land to which <strong>the</strong> Act allows access and<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is little to physically prevent walkers from climbing <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

jumps or horse-riders from jumping <strong>the</strong>m. (Some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> jumps<br />

are logs and it is not immediately obvious that <strong>the</strong>y are a man<str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

obstacle ra<strong>the</strong>r than a natural feature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> site). Although<br />

we have carried out a risk assessment to ensure <strong>the</strong> site and<br />

jumps are in a safe c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>, we are vulnerable to <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>sequences <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people acting irresp<strong>on</strong>sibly. The code must<br />

make it clear that such use is an irresp<strong>on</strong>sible act. (G/0040/X)<br />

If a reservoir is formally managed for recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes it is<br />

exempt from access rights. … Country Parks…are visitor<br />

attracti<strong>on</strong>s which include facilities such as fishing reservoir,<br />

serviced camping site, BBQ areas, golf courses, etc. As<br />

"managed sites" with "management rules" are <strong>the</strong>y exempt from<br />

access rights? Could an explanati<strong>on</strong> be provided as to why a<br />

visitor attracti<strong>on</strong>, which sets an "entry charge", should be exempt


Stud farm/ horse<br />

breeding<br />

Game bird rearing<br />

needed. Is a football match permitted if children place<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir jumpers as goals? (X/1036/X)<br />

Should a young girl <strong>on</strong> a mare or filly that is in seas<strong>on</strong> get<br />

anywhere near a stalli<strong>on</strong>, nature will take over and injury or<br />

even death may follow. Some restricti<strong>on</strong>s must be placed<br />

<strong>on</strong> riders in <strong>the</strong>se circumstances. (B/0257/X)<br />

Stud farms need particular menti<strong>on</strong>, foals, particularly<br />

thoroughbreds, can be very valuable and vulnerable to<br />

disturbance by dogs and strange horses. (G/1192/X)<br />

A sentence should be added prohibiting access to rearing<br />

fields and release pens ei<strong>the</strong>r with or without a dog.<br />

(B/1271/X)<br />

Disturbance by <strong>the</strong> general public to crow traps is an<br />

<strong>on</strong>going problem … The importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong>se traps as a<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> management tool should be explained<br />

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from access rights? ... if a facility is managed for countryside<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong>al purposes <strong>the</strong>n <strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> should not<br />

apply. (X/0939/X)<br />

... a woodchip all-wea<strong>the</strong>r gallop … we are c<strong>on</strong>cerned that horseriders<br />

will be able to use this facility … we also have a grass<br />

gallop which is used by clients … Do we have any c<strong>on</strong>trol over<br />

riders using this facility? (X/1137/X)<br />

There is no reference to 'breeding horses' or 'Stud Farms' in <strong>the</strong><br />

Code. Horses, especially thoroughbreds, are very sensitive to<br />

strange people and sounds. They are easily spooked and may<br />

become so disturbed as to gallop over <strong>the</strong> most secure fencing<br />

and <strong>on</strong> to <strong>the</strong> public highway, may abort a foal, suffer serious<br />

injury to <strong>the</strong>mselves or to humans. (B/0240/X)<br />

Highland p<strong>on</strong>ies (at least 4000 in Scotland) are mainland<br />

Scotland's <strong>on</strong>ly native horse breed. The majority <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Highland<br />

p<strong>on</strong>ies are produced in studs where stalli<strong>on</strong>s usually run outside,<br />

all year round, with mares and foals. Their primary c<strong>on</strong>cern in<br />

<strong>the</strong>se circumstances is for <strong>the</strong> herd. ... The herd...a group <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

p<strong>on</strong>ies when alarmed...first tend to flee, and depending <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

field, can injure <strong>the</strong>mselves by running through fences, or a<br />

pregnant mare abort her foal. Yeld mares. After <strong>the</strong> initial flight<br />

urge, <strong>the</strong> tendency <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> yeld mares...will be...try to drive <strong>the</strong> threat<br />

away from <strong>the</strong> mares with foals. ... In <strong>the</strong> case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dogs <strong>the</strong><br />

reacti<strong>on</strong> is much more serious. The mare will chase a dog, , with<br />

ears back and teeth bared, and put it through a fence or over a<br />

dyke, trying to stamp <strong>on</strong> it with <strong>the</strong> fr<strong>on</strong>t hooves or biting. ...<br />

Stalli<strong>on</strong>s. In <strong>the</strong> case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a stalli<strong>on</strong> running with mares and foals,<br />

<strong>the</strong> reacti<strong>on</strong> tends to be more aggressive and extreme. ...<br />

Introducing a ridden horse into a field or area where <strong>the</strong>re are<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r horses, is, self-evidently, asking for trouble, as it will<br />

immediately induce a mass approach and trigger <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f expressi<strong>on</strong>s<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> dominance towards <strong>the</strong> intruder, such as kicking with <strong>the</strong> hind<br />

hooves. (E/1215/X)<br />

... <strong>the</strong> status <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pheasant release pens which are in use from<br />

June <strong>on</strong>wards, not merely <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> days in November and<br />

December when shooting is actually taking place. Query include<br />

game release pens in 2.15 and 3.12? (E/0906/X)<br />

From both <strong>the</strong> animal welfare and safety perspectives, rearing<br />

fields should be exempt in <strong>the</strong> same way as farm buildings.


Railways<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r livestock<br />

somewhere in <strong>the</strong> code. (B/1295/X)<br />

The birds are reared by ourselves from day olds in specific<br />

areas. There are serious safety implicati<strong>on</strong>s with regard to<br />

disease, fire and explosi<strong>on</strong> (artificial heat is provided via<br />

Propane Gas)……… In game cover plots where crops<br />

have been planted specifically to provide suitable habitat, it<br />

is assumed that <strong>the</strong>se areas would be classified as<br />

"growing crops" and excluded. (F/0748/X)<br />

I was surprised to see no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> game bird rearing, ie.<br />

Partridges and pheasants… I, <strong>the</strong>refore, would like to see<br />

managed game birds treated more as livestock in <strong>the</strong> code<br />

as far as recommendati<strong>on</strong>s for dogs are c<strong>on</strong>cerned.<br />

(W/0090/X)<br />

There should be additi<strong>on</strong>al guidance <strong>on</strong> dogs in woodland<br />

used for rearing game birds. (W/0696/X/d)<br />

Page 49. Insert a secti<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> crossing railways under<br />

'Railways'. (P/0316/X)<br />

..crossing railway lines i.e. at level crossings. (P/0640/X)<br />

..ask that c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> be given to menti<strong>on</strong>ing <strong>the</strong> danger<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> visitors entering a deer farm. Tame deer as <strong>on</strong> farms<br />

can be dangerous - <strong>the</strong> newly calved hind may attack<br />

people who accidentally or deliberately approach <strong>the</strong> calf<br />

which may be hidden in l<strong>on</strong>g grass etc. In <strong>the</strong> autumn<br />

stags are at least as dangerous as dairy bulls. (B/0020/X)<br />

There is no menti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> what <strong>the</strong> public should do in <strong>the</strong><br />

case <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> encountering any o<strong>the</strong>r animals with young (I.e<br />

horses, pigs, goats, llamas, geese etc) especially if <strong>the</strong><br />

public have dogs or young children with <strong>the</strong>m.<br />

(B/0473/X/d)<br />

Add specific references to fields c<strong>on</strong>taining male farm<br />

stock eg bulls, tups, boars include poultry (geese and<br />

laying hens) (T/0911/X)<br />

No menti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pigs - under no circumstances<br />

should members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> public enter a field <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> pigs - <strong>the</strong>se<br />

animals are EXTREMELY dangerous, and specific<br />

menti<strong>on</strong> should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this in <strong>the</strong> code. Also from <strong>the</strong><br />

animal health point <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> view, most pig herds have or aspire<br />

to have a 'High Health' status - any entry by <strong>the</strong> public can<br />

compromise this status. (W/0108/X/d)<br />

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When <strong>the</strong>se birds are released into <strong>the</strong> wild <strong>the</strong> pens <strong>the</strong>y go in<br />

should have a temporary access restricti<strong>on</strong>; if <strong>the</strong> birds are<br />

disturbed it can result in heavy losses particularly as <strong>the</strong> public<br />

have night-time access. (H/0904/X)<br />

Access rights should, also, not apply to enclosures and areas<br />

used for rearing game. (X/0656/X)<br />

horses … They can be as dangerous to people/dogs if<br />

threatened especially with foals at foot, and expensive to replace<br />

or cover vet's bills for. Pigs do not seem to be menti<strong>on</strong>ed ei<strong>the</strong>r<br />

and <strong>the</strong>y certainly were agricultural when we lived <strong>the</strong>re and can<br />

be dangerous. (B/1341/Z/d)<br />

The livestock listed should included chickens, turkeys and ducks.<br />

(W/0191/X)


Winter sports and<br />

recreati<strong>on</strong><br />

Extreme / minority<br />

sports<br />

The activities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sledging/cross country skiing do cause<br />

damage to <strong>the</strong> course and this will be greatly increased if<br />

<strong>the</strong> general public are allowed to determine that <strong>the</strong>re is<br />

"sufficient snow cover" to carry out <strong>the</strong>se activities.<br />

(B/0225/X)<br />

... cross country skiing which can cause great disturbance<br />

to deer at times <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> deep snow. (B/0980/X)<br />

C<strong>on</strong>siderable damage will be caused to crops under snow<br />

by <strong>the</strong> use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sloping fields for sledging or skiing by<br />

perfectly well intenti<strong>on</strong>ed, resp<strong>on</strong>sible but ignorant people.<br />

(B/0925/X)<br />

Feel that …sledging should be discouraged in fields where<br />

<strong>the</strong>re is livestock. (B/1093/X)<br />

Cross-country/Nordic skiiing/ski touring - avoid<br />

unnecessary disturbance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> red deer (vulnerable <strong>on</strong> low<br />

ground in c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> deep snow) (P/0899/X)<br />

In winter, exercising access rights at night is likely to be<br />

little short <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> reckless. (E/1074/X)<br />

Make additi<strong>on</strong>al reference to activities such as hill running,<br />

orienteering, air and underground / underwater sports.<br />

Additi<strong>on</strong>al advice to alert people to <strong>the</strong> specific safety risks<br />

around archery courses, shooting ranges and horse<br />

gallops is required. (B/0937/X)<br />

All principal outdoor activities should be menti<strong>on</strong>ed here,<br />

as land managers may c<strong>on</strong>strue that activities not listed<br />

here are not recognised or permitted. .... Caving, ski<br />

touring, walking and running, rock climbing and abseiling,<br />

diving (snorkelling and sub-aqua). ... - gliding, hanggliding,<br />

flying, ballo<strong>on</strong>ing, parachuting, etc? (G/0379/X)<br />

Clarify whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> access rights apply to activities such<br />

as: carrying canoes to a riverbank; setting up and landing<br />

paragliders and microlights (<strong>the</strong> latter are presumably<br />

excluded from access rights by being motorised but would<br />

motorised hang gliders where <strong>the</strong> engine is not started<br />

until after launching be covered?), skateboards (including<br />

'<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f-road' models) and launching boats <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> seashore.<br />

Does <strong>the</strong> driving <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> horsedrawn carriages fall within <strong>the</strong><br />

right? (K/1241/X)<br />

Gorge Exploring (W/1153/Z/d)<br />

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Event organisers should: *liase with land managers *inform land<br />

managers well in advance about mapping requirements *c<strong>on</strong>sult<br />

SNH area <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>fice for c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> advice when an area is used for<br />

<strong>the</strong> first time *seek permissi<strong>on</strong> well in advance for larger events<br />

and discuss any facilitiesor services required *folllow <strong>the</strong><br />

guidelines issued by <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Orienteering Associati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Orienteers have a good reputati<strong>on</strong> for organisati<strong>on</strong> and care <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> envir<strong>on</strong>ment. Small club and training sessi<strong>on</strong>s should be<br />

covered by a general agreement. Provided that nature<br />

c<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>cerns as identified by SNH are satisfactorily<br />

addressed and <strong>the</strong> event does not disrupt significant land<br />

management operati<strong>on</strong>s, you should grant permissi<strong>on</strong> with <strong>the</strong><br />

minimum <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> delay. You may charge for any facilities and<br />

services provided but not for access. (W/0781/X)


Disused quarries ..clarificati<strong>on</strong> whe<strong>the</strong>r access rights apply to quarries when <strong>the</strong>y<br />

are not working (A/0658/X/d)<br />

The occurrence <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> mineshafts, obvious or hidden, warrant<br />

menti<strong>on</strong> in <strong>the</strong> code. Landowners cannot be held resp<strong>on</strong>sible for<br />

people taking ill-c<strong>on</strong>sidered risks with ei<strong>the</strong>r natural caves or<br />

mineworkings although <strong>the</strong>y could be asked to warn <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> such<br />

hazards where known, with appropriate fencing or taping. I have<br />

seen sits (subsidence hollows) <strong>on</strong> collapsed shallow<br />

mineworkings taped <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f in a publicly accessible informal nature<br />

reserve where <strong>the</strong> landowner was behaving in a sensible fashi<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Aband<strong>on</strong>ed quarries are also a sensitive issue with landowners.<br />

Again like natural cliffs, such quarry faces can be dangerous<br />

through people falling from <strong>the</strong>m, rockfalls and debris flows and<br />

slides, and also drowning in flooded quarries and sand and<br />

gravel or clay pits. Partial infills <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> quarry holes can also c<strong>on</strong>tain<br />

hazardous materials with risk <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> injury or pois<strong>on</strong>ing as<br />

possibilities. ... <strong>the</strong> landowner should not be held resp<strong>on</strong>sible for<br />

those who take ill-advised risks. However, due warning etc,<br />

should be given as appropriate. (W/1325/X)<br />

Disabled access<br />

Access is available to <strong>the</strong> disabled driving specially<br />

adapted vehicles. There is absolutely no guidance<br />

anywhere in <strong>the</strong> Code as to resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by <strong>the</strong><br />

disabled in vehicles. (B/1150/X/d)<br />

The questi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled access needs to be clarified. …<br />

Rightly <strong>the</strong>re are dispensati<strong>on</strong>s for disabled people,<br />

however, a motorised buggy is <strong>on</strong>e thing but somebody<br />

taking access with a 4x4 vehicle should not be acceptable.<br />

(B/1347/X)<br />

I couldn't see a reference to <strong>the</strong> Disability Discriminati<strong>on</strong><br />

Act in <strong>the</strong> Code. I think it should be included because<br />

local authorities are beginning to realise that <strong>the</strong>y are<br />

required to provide better access to <strong>the</strong> countryside for<br />

people with disabilities, including wheelchair and o<strong>the</strong>r<br />

mobility vehicle users. (D/0350/Y)<br />

It is clear that <strong>the</strong> specific issue <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> access for people<br />

affected by disability is embraced, but some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> pratical<br />

difficulties, given <strong>the</strong> diversity <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people's impairments,<br />

require fur<strong>the</strong>r c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> before <strong>the</strong> Code is<br />

implemented. In particular we feel <strong>the</strong> tenets <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

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Why are motorised vehicles adapted for disabled permitted<br />

access? How are land managers supposed to allow this access,<br />

without allowing all vehicle access? It is not stated that <strong>the</strong><br />

vehicle must be driven by a disabled pers<strong>on</strong>. … If a minibus is<br />

adapted for disabled but no passengers are disabled, can <strong>the</strong><br />

o<strong>the</strong>r passengers have access? What if it is a car with a disabled<br />

sticker but no adaptati<strong>on</strong>? (B/0288/X/d)<br />

Does this mean that all access points, including those with gates<br />

preventing vehicular access, within an estate have to be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

available for disabled drivers? (B/0964/X)<br />

Under <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by <strong>the</strong> public, this could<br />

reiterate that disabled people are entitled to use motorised<br />

scooters etc for access. … Under <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>sible behaviour by<br />

land managers, this could re-emphasise <strong>the</strong> importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

removing barriers to access by disabled people, as above.<br />

(M/0263/X)<br />

However, many sites are unavailable to us, simply because <strong>the</strong>re<br />

are stiles and/or kissing gates, through which no wheelchair, or<br />

pers<strong>on</strong> with mobility problems, can pass. We realise, <strong>the</strong>se<br />

barriers are to prevent cattle, etc, from passing. However, by-


Disability Discriminati<strong>on</strong> Act should be highlighted. To<br />

omit, or fail to emphasise, this key legislati<strong>on</strong> would be a<br />

disservice to disabled people, land managers and local<br />

authorities. The producti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code gives a golden<br />

opportunity to ensure <strong>the</strong> needs <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> people with disabilities<br />

are built into <strong>the</strong> process, ra<strong>the</strong>r than added as an adjunct<br />

or, worse, subject to remedy by complaint. (M/1258/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> exempti<strong>on</strong> for powered craft for disabled visitors is <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

some c<strong>on</strong>cern, <strong>on</strong> water supply reservoirs…… prefer to<br />

see an instructi<strong>on</strong> to c<strong>on</strong>tact <strong>Scottish</strong> Water before<br />

launching such craft. (R/0868/X)<br />

...<strong>the</strong> Code should menti<strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> desirability, if not <strong>the</strong><br />

requirement, for access provisi<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> care paths to be<br />

inclusive and for <strong>the</strong> removal <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> barriers to access for<br />

disabled people. As with o<strong>the</strong>r parts <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Code, what<br />

c<strong>on</strong>stitutes reas<strong>on</strong>able in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> barrier removal may<br />

need to be <strong>the</strong> subject <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> more detailed guidance but <strong>the</strong>re<br />

is an opportunity to promote <strong>the</strong> idea <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> least restrictive<br />

access here and to encourage a positive and proactive<br />

approach <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> part <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> land managers. Older people who<br />

have a mobility or sensory impairment are a sub-group<br />

am<strong>on</strong>g disabled people who are likely to be highly<br />

resp<strong>on</strong>sible users <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> countryside so l<strong>on</strong>g as <strong>the</strong>ir<br />

access is not restricted. (V/1285/X)<br />

Drivers <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> disabled cars should not be given access to<br />

privately maintained, single track, access roads. Turning<br />

point is normally within <strong>the</strong> farm yard at <strong>the</strong> back <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

farmhouse. Very <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ten a skilful driver is needed to<br />

negotiate <strong>the</strong> turn. (W/0872/X)<br />

pass gates, which could be opened (and obviously, closed<br />

behind us), would go a c<strong>on</strong>siderable distance towards achieving<br />

some <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> our goals. (M/1383/X)<br />

I recognise that <strong>the</strong> point at which a land owner or manager<br />

becomes a 'service provider' may not always be clear, although<br />

...<strong>the</strong>re is an opportunity in <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code to<br />

reinforce <strong>the</strong> spirit <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> DDA legislati<strong>on</strong> as well as to<br />

recommend provisi<strong>on</strong>s which are necessary to comply with <strong>the</strong><br />

law. (V/1285/X)<br />

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Annex 1<br />

Extract from Report 1 <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> and analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code:<br />

Stage 3 - <str<strong>on</strong>g>Analysis</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> and resp<strong>on</strong>ses <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code<br />

1. The outcome from <strong>the</strong>se stages <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> informing and engaging was <strong>the</strong> receipt <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 1,362<br />

formal resp<strong>on</strong>ses to <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong>. A breakdown <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>dents is set out in<br />

Annex 4. These resp<strong>on</strong>ses, al<strong>on</strong>g with <strong>the</strong> many o<strong>the</strong>r comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> at meetings<br />

and via o<strong>the</strong>r forms, were <strong>the</strong>n analysed and used to generate a <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed<br />

Code.<br />

2. Resp<strong>on</strong>ses to <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> varied c<strong>on</strong>siderably, both in: <strong>the</strong>ir nature (for example,<br />

including comments <strong>on</strong> a range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> matters <strong>on</strong> and outwith <strong>the</strong> Code); and length (for<br />

example, from a few sentences to documents in excess <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 50 pages).<br />

3. Given that <strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> process had generated such a wide range <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments<br />

and <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g>, it was important that <strong>the</strong> analysis process was suitably rigorous.<br />

To guide this, four ground rules were borne in mind, namely that:<br />

• <strong>the</strong> analysis process would be structured to assist preparati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> a Proposed<br />

Code that is in accordance with <strong>the</strong> Act;<br />

• all <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> and comments submitted would be c<strong>on</strong>sidered equally <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong>ir merit;<br />

• in view <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> range and breadth <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> comments received, it was strength <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

arguments c<strong>on</strong>tained in c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>ses and <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> that would<br />

dictate <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code, as opposed to length or volume <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

argument; and<br />

• <strong>the</strong> analysis would be an iterative process and would involve a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> re<strong>draft</strong>s<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> analysis outputs before a <strong>draft</strong> Proposed Code could be c<strong>on</strong>sidered<br />

by <strong>the</strong> Main SNH Board.<br />

4. The analysis process c<strong>on</strong>tained four steps:<br />

• Step 1: Collati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents’ comments. After registrati<strong>on</strong> and<br />

categorisati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>ses, <strong>the</strong> analysis would build <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> questi<strong>on</strong>s posed in<br />

<strong>the</strong> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> document <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code. For this, <strong>the</strong> key comments in<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> were highlighted and collated by a team <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> SNH staff.<br />

• Step 2: Using <strong>the</strong> collated comments, issues raised in <strong>the</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

were identified and grouped. This generated a number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> answer categories in<br />

relati<strong>on</strong> to each <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> questi<strong>on</strong>s. This stage also generated an indicati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> resp<strong>on</strong>dents to a particular questi<strong>on</strong> (or issue). This numerical side <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

<strong>the</strong> analysis could <strong>on</strong>ly be indicative because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> scale and varied nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>. However, it did provide useful background for <strong>the</strong> following<br />

stage.<br />

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• Step 3: Judgements <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> answer categories were <strong>the</strong>n <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to inform <strong>the</strong><br />

revisi<strong>on</strong>s that should be <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> to <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code in terms <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>:<br />

a. Accepted – we c<strong>on</strong>cur with this answer category or comment and <strong>the</strong><br />

Proposed Code should take this <strong>on</strong> board.<br />

b. Reflected – <strong>the</strong> text <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code should be adjusted to reflect, but<br />

not accept in full, <strong>the</strong> comments. For <strong>the</strong>se, <strong>the</strong> points being <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> were<br />

relevant but could not be built directly into <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code because <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong><br />

need to balance <strong>the</strong>m with o<strong>the</strong>r comments <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g>. In <strong>the</strong>se cases, <strong>the</strong><br />

comment could <strong>on</strong>ly be used in part.<br />

c. Rejected - <strong>the</strong> Proposed Code should not be adjusted, possibly because <strong>the</strong><br />

comment would affect <strong>the</strong> accepted or reflected comments or it might be<br />

c<strong>on</strong>trary to <strong>the</strong> Act.<br />

d. Managed – whilst <strong>the</strong> Code cannot accept or reflect this comment, we<br />

recommend that <strong>the</strong> issue is addressed in c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> wider<br />

implementati<strong>on</strong> issues.<br />

• Step 4: Secti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> Code were re-<strong>draft</strong>ed in accordance with <strong>the</strong><br />

Step 3 judgements.<br />

5. It was evident from <strong>the</strong>se four steps that c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> extensive and varied<br />

comments and <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> received required careful judgement, balancing <strong>the</strong><br />

nature <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> comment <str<strong>on</strong>g>made</str<strong>on</strong>g> with <strong>the</strong> sources <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> that comment, and <strong>the</strong> number <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

resp<strong>on</strong>dents taking this view. Primarily <strong>the</strong> comments needed to be c<strong>on</strong>sidered against<br />

<strong>the</strong> access legislati<strong>on</strong> as passed by Parliament.<br />

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Annex 2<br />

Key to <strong>the</strong> Coding <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Resp<strong>on</strong>dents<br />

Individual recreati<strong>on</strong>al user<br />

ie. individuals identifying <strong>the</strong>mselves as such.<br />

Individual land managers / factors<br />

Including individuals identifying <strong>the</strong>mselves as farm, estate or golf course<br />

managers, factors resp<strong>on</strong>ding <strong>on</strong> behalf <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> specific estates, Open Gardens<br />

Individual sporting / outdoor activity<br />

Including participants in activities outwith access rights eg Golfers, anglers,<br />

target shooters, jet skiers, participants in o<strong>the</strong>r field sports.<br />

Recreati<strong>on</strong> / tourism businesses<br />

Including mountain guides, trekking companies, rafting companies,<br />

outdoor centres, tourism businesses specific to activities under access<br />

rights.<br />

Land management businesses<br />

Including forestry companies, factors resp<strong>on</strong>ding in a general capacity<br />

Sporting / o<strong>the</strong>r activity businesses<br />

Businesses outwith access rights – including paintballing, wider tourism<br />

operati<strong>on</strong>s eg camp/caravan sites, 4x4 courses, B&Bs<br />

Recreati<strong>on</strong> and dog owning interest groups<br />

Including RAS, SCAC, MC<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>S, individual Clubs, Canine Defence League.<br />

Land management interest groups<br />

Including NFUS, DMGs, DSFBs, Gamekeepers, Forest & Timber.<br />

Sports / outdoor activity organisati<strong>on</strong>s / interest groups<br />

Including recreati<strong>on</strong>al activities outwith <strong>the</strong> access rights eg SANA, LARA,<br />

Golf Uni<strong>on</strong>, football clubs, water ski associati<strong>on</strong>s, cricket clubs.<br />

Natural / cultural heritage groups – land owners<br />

Including RSPB and o<strong>the</strong>r landowning orgs<br />

Natural / cultural heritage groups<br />

And n<strong>on</strong>-landowning NGOs, Gaelic groups<br />

Social and ec<strong>on</strong>omic groups<br />

Including disability groups, social inclusi<strong>on</strong> partnerships, local WIs.<br />

MSPs / MPs / Local Authority Councillors<br />

Local Authorities – including CoSLA<br />

Local Access Forums<br />

Community Councils<br />

Nati<strong>on</strong>al agencies – public sector.<br />

All such public bodies should be allocated to this category ra<strong>the</strong>r than any<br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs which might reflect <strong>the</strong>ir particular remits.<br />

Regi<strong>on</strong>al / local public agencies<br />

As above, but with any geographic coverage that is less than <strong>the</strong> whole <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Scotland. Including LECs.<br />

Pr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>essi<strong>on</strong>al bodies including RICS, ACPOS, RTPI, SCRA, Directors<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Planning<br />

Research / academic organisati<strong>on</strong>s / individual academics /<br />

c<strong>on</strong>sultants including Schools, Colleges, Universities.<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r individuals<br />

Including individuals expressing an affiliati<strong>on</strong> to multiple interests, or to no<br />

particular interest.<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r organisati<strong>on</strong>s<br />

Including businesses or interest groups covering multiple interests (eg.<br />

diversified farm businesses; SPCA etc). NB: landowning NGOs to be<br />

coded as K.<br />

A<br />

B<br />

C<br />

D<br />

E<br />

F<br />

G<br />

H<br />

J<br />

K<br />

L<br />

M<br />

N<br />

P<br />

P/LAF<br />

Q<br />

R<br />

T<br />

U<br />

V<br />

W<br />

X<br />

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Individual Recreati<strong>on</strong> Users:<br />

A/0821/X/d Mr Colin Abercrombie<br />

A/0718/X Mr Jim Aitken<br />

A/1381/ Vic Aitken<br />

A/0134/X/d Brian D Allingham<br />

A/0655/X/d Mr David Anders<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0774/X Mr Andrew Baillie<br />

A/0719/X/d Mr Graham Banks<br />

A/0253/X/d Gord<strong>on</strong> W Bell<br />

A/0308/X Dick Bell<br />

A/0219/X George Berwick<br />

A/0841/Y Chris Bolt<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0871/X Mari<strong>on</strong> Boyle<br />

A/1338/X James Brown<br />

A/0089/Y James Buchanan<br />

A/0097/X Alan Camer<strong>on</strong><br />

A/1084/X Robin Campbell<br />

A/1333/X John G Carru<strong>the</strong>rs<br />

A/0373/X Paul Carter<br />

A/0401/X Susan Clark<br />

A/0572/d June Clark<br />

A/0671/X C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

A/1136/X/d C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

A/0399/X Eileen Cornish<br />

A/0431/X Mrs S Coutts<br />

A/0958/X Gord<strong>on</strong> Crawford<br />

A/0967/X Paul Cromey<br />

A/0319/X Mr M S Cudahy<br />

A/0753/X Mr W Cuthill<br />

A/0290/X J D Davies<br />

A/0518/X Mrs Jane M Dicks<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0425/X Dr Angela Dix<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0050/Y Miss Jane Dotchin<br />

A/0636/X Sh<strong>on</strong>a Duncan<br />

A/0621/Y Peter Edge<br />

A/0362/X Brian Emmers<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0732/X Mr Neil Farmer<br />

A/0449/X Dr Joy Faulkner<br />

A/0382/X Maurice Fleming<br />

A/0560/X J<strong>on</strong>athan Foote<br />

A/0469/X Mr Robin Forrest<br />

A/1076/X Fred Forrester<br />

A/0105/X L W Fortune<br />

A/0553/ Angela Fo<strong>the</strong>ringham<br />

A/0706/X Ms Sheila Fraser<br />

A/0259/Y/d Denis & Lynne Frost<br />

A/0202/X/d Mary Gardner<br />

A/0135/X Wallace Gilbraith<br />

A/0349/X Ms Janet Glendinning<br />

A/0892/X Mrs Elaine Gord<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0740/X Bren Gormley<br />

A/0786/X/d Mrs Dora J H Gow<br />

A/1320/ Mrs Wilma Grant<br />

A/0037/X Ms Margaret Grant-Beer<br />

A/0205/X D<strong>on</strong> Green<br />

A/0537/X Mrs Susan Grout<br />

A/0724/X Mr Sim<strong>on</strong> Hart<br />

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A/0422/X<br />

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A/0968/X<br />

A/0500/Y/d<br />

A/1082/X<br />

A/0450/X<br />

A/0437/X<br />

A/0036/X<br />

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A/0291/X<br />

Peter Hawkins<br />

Mr John Heathcote<br />

Ms Bessie Hendry<br />

Mr John Holms<br />

Mr Ian Hopkins<br />

Linda Hous<strong>on</strong><br />

Alan Howe<br />

Alis<strong>on</strong> Irvine<br />

Mr Andy Jacks<strong>on</strong><br />

Mr David Jarvie<br />

Ian Jarvis<br />

Angela G Killean<br />

Lisa King<br />

Mary Kusin<br />

Dr Peter Kyriakoudis<br />

J<strong>on</strong> Laffan<br />

Mr Mark Laidlaw<br />

Mr Nial Leight<strong>on</strong><br />

Charlie Leppard<br />

V Lil<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Marian MacDougall<br />

Neil A MacKenzie<br />

Lindsay Mackinlay<br />

Felicity Martin<br />

Ge<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f Mas<strong>on</strong><br />

Wendy Mattingley<br />

Sue Mattis<strong>on</strong><br />

David McCulloch<br />

Mr Andy McKenna<br />

Les McLaren<br />

Mr David McVey<br />

Robert Miller<br />

Keith Miller<br />

Brian F Miller<br />

Charles Milligan<br />

Robert M<strong>on</strong>aghan<br />

Dr Alistair & Nicola M<strong>on</strong>tgomery<br />

Dr J P Moochy<br />

Hilary Moore<br />

Stella Morris<br />

Colin Morsley<br />

Dr Janet Moxley<br />

Catri<strong>on</strong>a Murray<br />

John Nisbet<br />

David R Niven<br />

Miss Jean Oudney<br />

Roy Partingt<strong>on</strong><br />

Mrs Rita Riddell<br />

Stewart Roberts<strong>on</strong><br />

R H Roberts<strong>on</strong><br />

Eric Roberts<strong>on</strong><br />

Catri<strong>on</strong>a Rogers<br />

Mr David Rogers<strong>on</strong><br />

W R<strong>on</strong>an<br />

John P Ross<br />

Dougie Shann<strong>on</strong><br />

Derek G Sime<br />

Mrs Penelope E A Sinclair<br />

Mrs Jean F Stevens<strong>on</strong>


A/0723/X Mr Ken Stewart<br />

A/0487/X John Stirling<br />

A/1073/X Bridget Thomas<br />

A/0666/X Harrold Thoms<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0825/X Dr Janet Trythall<br />

A/0046/X Jim Wallace<br />

A/0289/X T Ward<br />

A/0163/X Ric Wardman<br />

A/1077/X Dr Andy Watt<br />

A/0111/X Neil Weir<br />

A/0369/X/d Robert Wilkins<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0400/X A Russel Wills<br />

A/0762/X Mr & Mrs A E Wilmot<br />

A/0430/X/d Leslie D Wils<strong>on</strong><br />

A/0601/X Thomas Wils<strong>on</strong><br />

A/1344/X Charlie Wood<br />

A/0442/X Betty Wright<br />

A/0820/X Mr Jim Young<br />

A/0138/ “Hilary”<br />

A/1363/X “Faye”<br />

Individual Land Managers / Factors<br />

B/0218/X Aberfoyle Golf Club<br />

B/1365/X Joan Alexander<br />

B/0816/X Mr Douglas Allan<br />

B/0493/X Mr A G Allis<strong>on</strong><br />

B/0195/X Alloa Golf Club<br />

B/1004/X R<strong>on</strong>ald A Anders<strong>on</strong><br />

B/1177/X Margaret Anders<strong>on</strong><br />

B/0048/X R H Andert<strong>on</strong><br />

B/0565/X An<strong>on</strong>ymous<br />

B/0015/ John Arbuckle<br />

B/0879/X J K O Arbuthnott<br />

B/0965/X/d Helen F Archibald<br />

B/1173/X Atholl Estates Ranger Service<br />

B/1142/X Messrs R A Austin<br />

B/0685/X Babert<strong>on</strong> Golf Club<br />

B/0042/X Alan Bailey<br />

B/1117/X Fi<strong>on</strong>a Bain<br />

B/1347/X Robert Balfour<br />

B/1375/ Peter Balnave<br />

B/0467/X A Bangor-J<strong>on</strong>es<br />

B/1253/X Gilbert Bannerman<br />

B/0783/X/d J M Barber<br />

B/1354/ A W Barclay<br />

B/0186/X Edward Baxter<br />

B/0178/X Bearsden Golf Club<br />

B/1114/X/d Angus Begg<br />

B/0859/X Mr John Bell-Irving<br />

B/0788/X Mr William Berry<br />

B/0211/X Mrs Caroline Best<br />

B/0076/X Frances A Black<br />

B/0545/X J S Blackett<br />

B/0152/X Borthwickshiels Estate Trust<br />

B/1313/X Robert Boyd<br />

B/0167/X Andrew Bradford<br />

B/1075/X Michael Brander<br />

B/0715/X Mr Martin Bridges<br />

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B/0891/X<br />

B/0654/X<br />

B/0496/X<br />

B/1161/X<br />

B/0713/X<br />

B/1002/X<br />

A Briggs<br />

Sheila Brooks<br />

Mrs Ca<strong>the</strong>rine A Brown<br />

Allan W Brown<br />

Mr Charles R Brown<br />

Michael Bruce<br />

Samuel Burnside<br />

J<strong>on</strong>athan W Burrow FRICS<br />

Lord Burt<strong>on</strong><br />

Mr & Mrs S Busby<br />

Major Sir David Butter, KCVO,<br />

MC<br />

Elizabeth Camer<strong>on</strong><br />

Michael D C C Campbell<br />

Sir James Campbell<br />

Jamie Campbell<br />

Mr Hugh A Campbell Adams<strong>on</strong><br />

Sir Hugh Campbell Byatt<br />

James Carru<strong>the</strong>rs<br />

Mr & Mrs Carru<strong>the</strong>rs<br />

Chaplet<strong>on</strong> Wood Residents<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

Sally Christian<br />

Mr William J Clark<br />

Sir Robert Clerk<br />

James H Climie<br />

Cloan Estate Trust<br />

P H & R M Close<br />

Robert Clow<br />

Peter Cockrell<br />

David Coltman<br />

Kaye C<strong>on</strong>afray<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

R M J Cooke<br />

Margaret Olivia Copeland<br />

James Corbett<br />

A G Coulter<br />

Council <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Trustees <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Helensburgh Golf Club<br />

Coust<strong>on</strong> Farm Company<br />

Charles Cox<br />

D & M Craib<br />

Mr Andrew Craig<br />

John G Craig


B/0223/X Mr J & Mrs M Craig & S<strong>on</strong><br />

B/0802/X Paul R Crane<br />

B/0247/X Crannach Management Group<br />

B/0672/X D A S Cranstoun<br />

B/0458/X His H<strong>on</strong> and Mrs W H R Crawford<br />

B/1083/X/d James Crawford<br />

B/1127/X/d Mrs C Crawford<br />

B/0793/X Mr Ian M M Cricht<strong>on</strong><br />

B/1019/X Cruden Bay Golf Club<br />

B/0634/X Mr M W Cumming<br />

B/1143/X Robert G Cumming<br />

B/0564/X W G Cuthberts<strong>on</strong><br />

B/0645/X R<strong>on</strong>ald W Dalglish<br />

B/0909/X Mr Michael Dalrymple<br />

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Brahan Farms Ltd<br />

Charles Bridgeman<br />

Brodies Solicitors<br />

Charles C<strong>on</strong>nell & Company Ltd<br />

CKD Galbraith LLP<br />

Craigengillan Estates Co Ltd<br />

Davis and Bowring<br />

Denmill Highland P<strong>on</strong>y Stud<br />

Mr Angus Dix<strong>on</strong><br />

Eur<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>orest Ltd<br />

Eur<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>orest Ltd<br />

FPDSavills Ltd<br />

G W Soutar (Grain Traders) Ltd<br />

Kettle Produce Ltd<br />

Kinloch Damph Ltd<br />

Kinnaber Fishings<br />

Lycetts Ltd<br />

William McEwen<br />

Moray Estates Development<br />

Company<br />

T G Packe<br />

David R Pat<strong>on</strong><br />

Mr Cliff Percival<br />

Quality Meat Scotland<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> and Sou<strong>the</strong>rn Energy<br />

Generati<strong>on</strong> Ltd<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Power<br />

Smiths Gore<br />

Stanley Fishings<br />

Strathmore Estates (Holding) Ltd<br />

Tilhill Forestry<br />

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Eskdale Shooting Services<br />

Game Fisheries Ltd<br />

John Graham<br />

Highland Adventure Safaris<br />

M L & P A Hopkins<br />

David Meldrum<br />

Michael Read<br />

Taymouth Holiday Centre<br />

Giles Weaver<br />

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Airyhall Ramblers<br />

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British Canoe Uni<strong>on</strong><br />

British Driving Society<br />

British Horse Society Scotland<br />

British Horse Society - Dumfries<br />

& Galloway<br />

British Horse Society - Lothian<br />

British Mountaineering Council<br />

Caithness Mountaineering & Ski<br />

Club<br />

Mr D<strong>on</strong>ald Cattanach


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CEO Sailability<br />

Katie Coward<br />

Cyclists' Touring Club<br />

Edinburgh Sou<strong>the</strong>rn Orienteering<br />

Club<br />

Falkirk Riders Access Group<br />

Falkirk Riders Access Group<br />

Tom Fent<strong>on</strong><br />

Gifford Community Pathways<br />

Group<br />

Andy Ince<br />

Linda Irvine<br />

Loch Ard Sailing Club<br />

Lom<strong>on</strong>d Mountaineering Club<br />

Hugh Ly<strong>on</strong><br />

Carol McKenna<br />

Camer<strong>on</strong> McNeish<br />

Mrs C H Moyes<br />

Mr Roger Muhl<br />

North East Mountain Trust<br />

RYA Scotland<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Advisory Panel for<br />

<strong>Outdoor</strong> Educati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Canine C<strong>on</strong>sultative<br />

Council<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Canoe Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Carriage Driving<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Countryside Activites<br />

Council<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Disabled Ramblers<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Mountain Leader<br />

Training Board<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Orienteering Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Recreati<strong>on</strong><br />

Network<br />

ScotWays<br />

Secretary Nithsdale Canoe Club<br />

Strachan Paths Group<br />

Strathisla Riding Club<br />

Sustrans Scotland<br />

Tayport Rights <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Way & Access<br />

Society<br />

The Cairngorm Club<br />

The Dava Way Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

The Grampian Club<br />

The Lothian Cycle Campaign<br />

The Moray Local Access Project<br />

The Mountaineering Council <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Scotland<br />

The Ramblers' Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

Scotland<br />

The <strong>Scottish</strong> Kennel Club<br />

Treking & Riding Society <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Scotland<br />

Trossachs & Crianlarich Wild<br />

Country Panel<br />

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Western Tracks Ski Club<br />

Wigtownshire Driving Club<br />

A Ann Winning<br />

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Groups<br />

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Boards<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>Scottish</strong> Stillwater<br />

Fisheries<br />

BASC Scotland<br />

Caithness District Salm<strong>on</strong> Fishery<br />

Board<br />

Cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ters Commissi<strong>on</strong><br />

Dee District Salm<strong>on</strong> Fishery<br />

Board<br />

Dee Salm<strong>on</strong> Fishing<br />

Improvement Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

East Grampian Deer<br />

Management Group<br />

Eoligarry Township<br />

Kyle <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Su<strong>the</strong>rland District<br />

Salm<strong>on</strong> Fishery Board<br />

Forestry & Timber Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

Grazings Clerk<br />

NFU Scotland<br />

NFUS - Dumbart<strong>on</strong> & Kilpatrick<br />

Branch<br />

NFUS - Failford Branch<br />

NFUS - Forth Valley Branch<br />

NFUS - Islay, Jura and Col<strong>on</strong>say<br />

Branch<br />

NFUS - Orkney Branch<br />

NFUS - Str<strong>on</strong>say Branch<br />

NFUS - Tiree Branch<br />

NFUS - West Berwick Branch<br />

North Uist Branch <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong><br />

Cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ting Foundati<strong>on</strong><br />

Perthshire Farming & Wildlife<br />

Advisory Group<br />

River Tweed Commissi<strong>on</strong>ers<br />

Royal <strong>Scottish</strong> Forestry Society<br />

SAC Auchincruive<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ting Foundati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Estates Business Group<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Landowners' Federati<strong>on</strong><br />

Shetland Cr<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ting, Farming &<br />

Wildlife Advisory Group<br />

South Ross Deer Management<br />

Group<br />

Barry Stewart<br />

Tay District Salm<strong>on</strong> Fisheries<br />

Board<br />

The Black Mount Partnership<br />

The Riparian Owners <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Loch<br />

Lom<strong>on</strong>d


H/0904/X<br />

H/0154/X<br />

H /1128/X<br />

The <strong>Scottish</strong> Gamekeepers'<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

UK Forest Products Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

Dr H A P Ingram<br />

Sports / <strong>Outdoor</strong> Activity Organisati<strong>on</strong>s /<br />

Interest Groups<br />

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J/0004/X<br />

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J/1058/X<br />

J/1051/X<br />

Carshphairn Angling Club<br />

Duno<strong>on</strong> & District Angling Club<br />

Pitlochry Angling Club<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Anglers Nati<strong>on</strong>al<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Golf Uni<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Hockey<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Rifle Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

The Atlantic Salm<strong>on</strong> Trust<br />

The Game C<strong>on</strong>servancy Trust<br />

The Lothians Golf Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

Natural / Cultural Heritage Groups – land<br />

owners<br />

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K/1302/X<br />

K/0714/X<br />

K/1241/X<br />

K/0444/X<br />

John Muir Trust<br />

RSPB Scotland<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Wildlife Trust<br />

The Nati<strong>on</strong>al Trust for Scotland<br />

The Woodland Trust Scotland<br />

Natural / Cultural Heritage Groups<br />

L/1026/X<br />

L/0213/Y<br />

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L/0513/X<br />

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L/0504/X<br />

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L/0650/X<br />

Alyth Envir<strong>on</strong>mental Group<br />

Amateur Entomologists' Society<br />

Black Envir<strong>on</strong>ment Network<br />

BTO Scotland<br />

Buglife - The Invertebrate<br />

C<strong>on</strong>servati<strong>on</strong> Trust<br />

Central Scotland Forest Trust<br />

Scotland's Garden Scheme<br />

Mr Dick Clark<br />

Edinburgh & Lothians Badger<br />

Group<br />

Friends <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Ochils<br />

Historic Houses Associati<strong>on</strong> for<br />

Scotland<br />

Loch Tay Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

Orkney Archaeological Trust<br />

Orkney Field Club<br />

Paths for All Partnership<br />

Reforesting Scotland<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Raptor Study Groups<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Wild Land Group<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Youth Parliament<br />

Shetland Amenity Trust<br />

Shetland Field Studies Group<br />

The Friends <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Orkney<br />

Archaeological Trust<br />

The Garden History Society in<br />

Scotland<br />

268<br />

L/1055/X<br />

The <strong>Scottish</strong> Ornithologists' Club<br />

Social and Ec<strong>on</strong>omic Groups<br />

M/1383/X<br />

M/0365/X<br />

M/1154/X<br />

M/0263/X<br />

M/0463/X<br />

M/0829/X<br />

M/0454/X<br />

M/0438/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0687/X<br />

M/0852/X<br />

M/1258/X<br />

M/0734/X<br />

M/1043/X<br />

M/0667/X<br />

Aberdeenshire Disability Advisory<br />

Group<br />

D & G Coaliti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Disabled<br />

People<br />

Dalbeattie Forest Community<br />

Partnership<br />

ECAS<br />

Fieldfare Trust<br />

Glen Derby House Owners<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

Harray SWRI<br />

Orkney Federati<strong>on</strong> SWRI<br />

Ms Campbell, Orphir SWRI<br />

Mrs Cloust<strong>on</strong>, Orphir SWRI<br />

Ms Flett, Orphir SWRI<br />

Ms Gray, Orphir SWRI<br />

Ms Groat, Orphir SWRI<br />

Ms Ma<strong>the</strong>rs, Orphir SWRI<br />

Ms Muir, Orphir SWRI<br />

Ms Williams, Orphir SWRI<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Countryside Alliance<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Disability Equality Forum<br />

Ms Clipsham, SWRI<br />

The <strong>Scottish</strong> Council - The Scout<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

The Scout Associati<strong>on</strong> - Renfrew<br />

& Inverclyde Area Scout Council<br />

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Councillors<br />

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Councillor Basil M S Dunlop<br />

Councillor Bob Ellis<br />

Fergus Ewing MSP<br />

Alex Ferguss<strong>on</strong> MSP<br />

Councillor Kay, Fife Council<br />

Sylvia Jacks<strong>on</strong> MSP<br />

Councillor John Lloyd<br />

John Swinney MSP<br />

The Rt H<strong>on</strong> Jim Wallace QC MSP<br />

Councillor Colin Young<br />

Councillor Lord Vaux <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Harrowden<br />

P/0577/X Aberdeen City Council<br />

P/0899/X Aberdeenshire Council<br />

P/0804/X Angus Council<br />

P/1296/X Argyll & Bute Council<br />

P/1247/X Cairngorms Nati<strong>on</strong>al Park Board<br />

P/0576/X Clackmannanshire Council<br />

P/0889/X Dumfries & Galloway Council -<br />

Ec<strong>on</strong>omic Regenerati<strong>on</strong>


P/0384/X East Ayrshire Council<br />

P/0491/X East Dunbart<strong>on</strong>shire Council<br />

P/0928/X East Lothian Council<br />

P/1272/X East Renfrewshire Council<br />

P/1273/X Falkirk Council - Planning &<br />

Envir<strong>on</strong>ment<br />

P/0548/X Fife Council<br />

P/0878/X Glasgow City Council<br />

P/1219/X Loch Lom<strong>on</strong>d & The Trossachs<br />

Nati<strong>on</strong>al Park Authority<br />

P/1218/X Midlothian Council<br />

P/0642/X North Ayrshire Council<br />

P/1304/X North Lanarkshire Council -<br />

Planning & Envir<strong>on</strong>ment<br />

P/0717/X Orkney Islands Council<br />

P/0869/X Perth & Kinross Council<br />

P/1060/X Renfrewshire Council<br />

P/1239/X <strong>Scottish</strong> Borders Council<br />

P/1066/X South Lanarkshire Council<br />

P/0643/X Stirling Council<br />

P/0575/X The City <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Edinburgh Council -<br />

Culture & Leisure<br />

P/1300/X The Highland Council<br />

P/0646/X West Dunbart<strong>on</strong>shire Council<br />

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Development & Regulatory<br />

Services<br />

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Access Forum<br />

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P/LAF/1237/X Orkney Local Access Forum<br />

P/LAF/0374/X Shetland's Access Strategy<br />

Working Group<br />

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Forum<br />

P1/1287/X Shetland Islands Council,<br />

Planning Officer<br />

P2/1217/X C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

P2/0889/X Dumfries & Galloway Council -<br />

Educati<strong>on</strong> & Community Services<br />

P2/0384/X East Ayrshire Council -<br />

Educati<strong>on</strong>al & Social Services<br />

P2/0491/X East Dunbart<strong>on</strong>shire Council<br />

P2/1273/X Falkirk Council<br />

P2/0575/X The City <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Edinburgh Council -<br />

City Development<br />

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Educati<strong>on</strong><br />

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Airth Parish Community Council<br />

Alyth Community Council<br />

Ardchattan Community Council<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Community<br />

Council <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Loch Lom<strong>on</strong>d and <strong>the</strong><br />

Trossachs<br />

Auchencairn Community Council<br />

Avich & Kilchrenan Community<br />

Council<br />

Aviemore & Vicinity Community<br />

Council<br />

Ballater and Crathie Community<br />

Council<br />

Banchory Community Council<br />

Blackford Community Council<br />

Bridgend, Gannochy & Kinnoull<br />

Community Council<br />

Buchanan Community Council<br />

Cairngorms Community Councils<br />

Group<br />

Carnock & Gowkhall Community<br />

Council<br />

Castletown & District Community<br />

Council<br />

Charlestown, Limekilns &<br />

Pattiesmuir Community Council<br />

Cree Valley Community Council<br />

Drymen Community Council<br />

Dunrossness Community Council<br />

Dyke Landward Community<br />

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C<strong>on</strong>stance Newbould<br />

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Randall Nicol<br />

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Charles Ogg<br />

L H & C M Oldham<br />

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Thomas L Scott<br />

Myrtle Scott-Park<br />

Mrs M Scott-Park<br />

Mr Jock Scott-Park<br />

R J Searle<br />

Carolyn Sharp<br />

David M Shearer<br />

Dr J C Sheld<strong>on</strong><br />

Ian Sherringt<strong>on</strong><br />

Alan Shute<br />

Kathleen Siddle<br />

R T Sidgwick<br />

Dick Sim<br />

Dave Skett<br />

P A Slann<br />

P A Slann<br />

Malcolm Slesser<br />

David W Smith<br />

Mrs Linda M Smith<br />

Dennis Smith<br />

Gillian Smith<br />

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James B Steel<br />

Alan Stewart<br />

Mrs K W Stewart<br />

Dr Hannah Stirling<br />

T Stitt<br />

John Stobie<br />

Clifford St<strong>on</strong>e<br />

Jim Strachan<br />

Mrs M A Strachan<br />

R A R Stroyan<br />

Mrs M Maxwell Stuart<br />

John Suddaby<br />

Alister M Su<strong>the</strong>rland<br />

David Swans<strong>on</strong><br />

Jan T & Faith M Szczuka<br />

A A H Tait<br />

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Michael Taylor<br />

Jim Taylor<br />

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Mr Henry Trotter<br />

R<strong>on</strong>ald Turnbull<br />

Jay Turner<br />

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W D O Valentine<br />

Tina Vern<strong>on</strong><br />

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Nicholas Wats<strong>on</strong><br />

Andrew Wats<strong>on</strong><br />

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John Webster<br />

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Patrick Whitworth<br />

C R Wickham-J<strong>on</strong>es<br />

Rosemary Williams<br />

Mrs Margaret Williams<br />

Mr A Williams<strong>on</strong><br />

Mrs A J Wils<strong>on</strong><br />

Miss Mary Winsch<br />

Anne Win<strong>the</strong>r<br />

Sue and Bill Wiseman<br />

Lesley Wiseman<br />

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Es<strong>the</strong>r Woodward<br />

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N A Wright<br />

Bryan Wright<br />

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“Drbulloch”<br />

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X/0784/X Aberdeenshire Envir<strong>on</strong>mental<br />

Forum<br />

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X/1298/X Argyll & Bute Agriculture Forum<br />

X/1385/X Arran Access Trust<br />

X/0727/X Blairgowrie & District Path<br />

Network Advisory Group<br />

X/1059/X British Holiday & Home Parks<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong> Ltd<br />

X/0896/X British Waterways Scotland<br />

X/1345/X Camphill Scotland<br />

X/1036/X Clyde Muirshiel Park Authority<br />

X/0405/X/d C<strong>on</strong>fidential Resp<strong>on</strong>se<br />

X/0652/X R Corser<br />

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X/0639/X Deskie Farm<br />

X/0421/X Dhanakosa Retreat Centre<br />

X/0811/X Dundee City Council - Ranger<br />

Service<br />

X/0010/X Edinburgh Area Scout Council<br />

X/0216/X Faculty <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Advocates<br />

X/1212/X Formartine Partnership<br />

X/0149/X Mr J Forrest<br />

X/0358/X Glendoick Gardens Ltd<br />

X/1056/X Greenspace Scotland<br />

X/0600/X Hebridean Pursuits Ltd<br />

X/0637/X Helensburgh Green Belt Group<br />

X/1115/X Highland Perthshire Communities<br />

Partnership<br />

X/0192/X/d Michael H<strong>on</strong>e<br />

X/0656/X James Hunter Blair<br />

X/0128/X Elizabeth M Lam<strong>on</strong>t<br />

X/1353/X Law Society <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Scotland<br />

X/0664/X J Duncan Millar<br />

X/0813/X Mugdock Country Park<br />

X/1171/X Nethy Bridge Interpretive Project<br />

X/0122/X E S Orr Ewing<br />

X/1092/X Perth & Kinross Countryside<br />

Trust<br />

X/0188/X Roseburn House Residents<br />

Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

X/0002/X <strong>Scottish</strong> Branch <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> British<br />

Veterinary Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

X/1067/X <strong>Scottish</strong> Countryside Access<br />

Network<br />

X/0129/X <strong>Scottish</strong> SPCA<br />

X/0937/X <strong>Scottish</strong> Sports Associati<strong>on</strong><br />

X/1069/X Secretary Five Parishes Path<br />

Group<br />

X/1137/X S H & P M Shirley-Beavan<br />

X/0426/X Chas G Spence<br />

X/0099/X St<strong>on</strong>efield Farms & An Tairbeart<br />

Trekking<br />

X/1380/ Sustainability Enquiry Point<br />

X/1174/X The Esk Valley Trust<br />

X/0193/X/d<br />

X/0196/X<br />

X/1290/X<br />

X/0939/X<br />

X/1188/X<br />

X/0989/X<br />

The Lynaberack and Ruthven<br />

Estate Partnership<br />

F M K Tuck<br />

Tweed Forum<br />

West Lothian Council Ranger<br />

Service<br />

Wild Island Explorati<strong>on</strong> Ltd<br />

Duncan R Winning OBE<br />

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We are a government organisati<strong>on</strong> set up by Parliament<br />

in 1992. We are resp<strong>on</strong>sible to <strong>the</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> Executive<br />

and <strong>Scottish</strong> Parliament.<br />

Our missi<strong>on</strong><br />

‘Working with Scotland’s people to care for our natural<br />

heritage.’<br />

Our aim<br />

‘Scotland’s natural heritage is a local, nati<strong>on</strong>al and<br />

global asset.<br />

We promote its care and improvement, its resp<strong>on</strong>sible<br />

enjoyment, its greater understanding and appreciati<strong>on</strong><br />

and its sustainable use now and for future generati<strong>on</strong>s.’<br />

Our operating principles<br />

‘We work in partnership, by co-operati<strong>on</strong>, negotiati<strong>on</strong><br />

and c<strong>on</strong>sensus, where possible, with all relevant interests<br />

in Scotland: public, private and voluntary organisati<strong>on</strong>s,<br />

and individuals.’<br />

‘We operate in a devolved manner, delegating decisi<strong>on</strong>making<br />

to <strong>the</strong> local level within <strong>the</strong> organisati<strong>on</strong> to<br />

encourage and assist SNH to be accessible, sensitive<br />

and resp<strong>on</strong>sive to local needs and circumstances.’<br />

‘We operate in an open and accountable manner in all<br />

our activities.’<br />

O<strong>the</strong>r reports:<br />

A Proposed <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code<br />

Report 1<br />

The process <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> and analysis <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>representati<strong>on</strong>s</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code<br />

Report 3<br />

Implementati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> Access Legislati<strong>on</strong>: issues raised during <strong>the</strong><br />

c<strong>on</strong>sultati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>draft</strong> <strong>Scottish</strong> <strong>Outdoor</strong> Access Code<br />

Summary Report<br />

Summary <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>the</strong> C<strong>on</strong>sultai<strong>on</strong> Process and <str<strong>on</strong>g>Analysis</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Resp<strong>on</strong>ses<br />

Available from:<br />

Claire Myles<br />

<strong>Scottish</strong> Natural Heritage<br />

Battleby, Redgort<strong>on</strong>, Perth PH1 3EW<br />

Tel 01738 444177 email claire.myles@snh.gov.uk<br />

All photographs by Lorne Gill/SNH except main image:<br />

John MacPhers<strong>on</strong> and horse riding: George Logan<br />

Published January 2004<br />

© <strong>Scottish</strong> Natural Heritage<br />

ISBN: 1 85397 382 3<br />

IA0.2K0104

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