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<strong>Transcript</strong> of DVD <strong>Commentary</strong> for Farscape Episode 3-22, “<strong>Dog</strong> <strong>With</strong> <strong>Two</strong> <strong>Bones</strong>,” with Ben Browder<br />

<strong>and</strong> Claudia Black. From the Starburst Edition, ADV Films, Volume 3.3, Region 1.<br />

Transcribed by TVGuru<br />

On screen: “Previously on Farscape.”<br />

BB: Alright, this is in here to get you slightly up to speed with where we are in the series. We are at the<br />

end of season three. <strong>The</strong>re have been two Crichtons, one of them has died. <strong>The</strong> one who died had a<br />

relationship with Officer <strong>Aeryn</strong> Sun. And then she was reunited with the other Crichton. And there was a<br />

certain amount of difficulty involved in them maintaining any kind of relationship, cordial or otherwise.<br />

My name is Ben Browder. Sitting next to me is Claudia Black.<br />

CB (meekly): Hi.<br />

BB (laughing): Pretty soon we’ll be up to speed. Talyn <strong>and</strong> Crais have sacrificed themselves to save our<br />

people, with the destruction of a comm<strong>and</strong> carrier. But you know what? You guys have seen all this. You<br />

already know all this stuff. So we’ll talk about the other stuff, maybe the stuff you haven’t seen. Um, this<br />

is one of my favorite episodes, <strong>and</strong> one day I’ll give a comment on one of the episodes I freakin’ hate, <strong>and</strong><br />

talk about how it’s not my fault. We just panned up the arm. We saw wormhole equations scrawled on my<br />

arm. I love that bit, that obsession Crichton has with wormholes. But he has another obsession, <strong>and</strong> this is<br />

it.<br />

On screen: <strong>Aeryn</strong> modeling wedding gowns in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

CB (chuckling): <strong>Aeryn</strong> Sun.<br />

BB: Now this is an obsession that I could share with Crichton. <strong>The</strong> wormhole thing, uh, maybe.<br />

CB: This is deliberate choice. I spoke to Andrew Prowse about this, who directed the episode. This is the<br />

dress that Princess Katralla wore in “Look at the Princess.” And since I’ve also played a princess in<br />

“<strong>John</strong> Quixote,” we thought it would be appropriate to tie in a few references.<br />

BB: You haven’t played a princess yet. “<strong>John</strong> Quixote” is season 4.<br />

CB (in princess voice): Oh, I get thso confusthed.<br />

BB (mimicking at first): I confusthed about that. No, yeah, you actually had four or five dresses you tried<br />

on. This is an episode which is typical of a David Kemper episode, which comes in at 70 pages, gets<br />

truncated down to 65 pages, <strong>and</strong> should be 55. When we shoot it, the rough cut will come out to, you<br />

know, a day <strong>and</strong> a half. And so we have a lot of extra material <strong>and</strong> footage that we can’t use. But you had<br />

four dresses you tried on, all of them slightly different.<br />

CB: And different characters, when I came out wearing….<br />

BB: And there are entire sequences which are omitted from this episode. But that was according to the<br />

Kemper plan.<br />

CB: What I liked about the tension in Crichton <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s relationship was always that they needed to<br />

somehow find devices to keep them apart, which was that Crichton had been going crazy. And his writing<br />

all the equations on his arm was a nice little physical manifestation of that for me. I mean he’s obviously


focusing his mind to try <strong>and</strong> find the solution, but it’s also a manifestation of everything that’s going on in<br />

his head.<br />

BB: And the wormholes were what he focused on when <strong>Aeryn</strong> went away. Because he couldn’t focus on<br />

<strong>Aeryn</strong>, he had to look for the obsession to get him through, <strong>and</strong> figuring out wormholes became the<br />

obsession to get him through the rough times. It’s the only other alternative. He either stays, <strong>and</strong> stays<br />

with <strong>Aeryn</strong>, or goes back to earth, <strong>and</strong> to do that he needs the wormholes.<br />

On screen: Paying up at the bridal shop in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

BB: That’s a funny line. You’re reading on “charge it.” (laughs).<br />

CB: Ch-charge it.<br />

BB: Ch-ch.<br />

CB: Cha-cha.<br />

BB: It was good! I think I was probably having more fun with the series at this point than at any other<br />

time in the course of shooting it. <strong>The</strong>re was a real flow <strong>and</strong> a rhythm to how we were doing things with<br />

the stories we were telling. I was getting an opportunity to do stuff with Claud that I hadn’t had an<br />

opportunity to do in the course of the series <strong>and</strong> just…<br />

CB: Like what, the sort of sophisticated earthbound stuff?<br />

BB: More sophisticated earthbound stuff, <strong>and</strong> some of the other scenes that we played where there’s very<br />

little dialogue but a lot of tension.<br />

CB: Yeah.<br />

BB: In addition to actually being able to play a very happy, semi-domesticated couple earlier in the year,<br />

there was a lot of interesting stuff to play, in addition to playing a guy who was brooding. But you know<br />

there was, everything felt in flow <strong>and</strong> everything felt like it was going to the right place. And this episode<br />

which on paper, when I first read it, I thought, how does this work? Um, the process of what David had<br />

written <strong>and</strong> what Andrew Prowse saw in it, <strong>and</strong> then the things that we worked out while as we did it<br />

actually makes it a really interesting piece of film.<br />

CB: It was very collaborative. I’m very proud of this episode. <strong>The</strong>re’s one thing in particular at the end<br />

which none of us could really work out what we wanted to do with it , so we just sort of threw ourselves<br />

into it <strong>and</strong> worked it out as we went along.<br />

BB: Yeah, you see David <strong>and</strong> I had been yelling at each other for almost two weeks about the content of<br />

that scene.<br />

CB: Yeah.<br />

BB: And David went back <strong>and</strong> rewrote it <strong>and</strong> rewrote it, trying to find a way to make ourselves<br />

collectively happy with it. As we get to the scene, it’s the big scene at the end….<br />

CB: Which I refer to as the coin toss scene.


BB: It is the coin toss scene, <strong>and</strong> the coin toss was your idea. But it was all a matter of figuring it out….<br />

CB: We all kind of collaborated.<br />

On screen: Opening credits.<br />

BB: I mean, it’s an interesting structural piece that ostensibly, the plot is that we are going to bury Talyn.<br />

<strong>The</strong> plot ends at the end of Act II <strong>and</strong> there are another two acts to go.<br />

CB: Yeah.<br />

BB: So that Acts III <strong>and</strong> IV are essentially eaten up dealing with Crichton’s neuroses <strong>and</strong> his rela tionship<br />

with <strong>Aeryn</strong>. Which is a really interesting structural place, that that’s the B story. Originally the fantasies<br />

are the B story part of the plot. <strong>The</strong> A story plot is the practical plot of burying Talyn, <strong>and</strong> that really<br />

becomes the B story <strong>and</strong> dispensed with at the end of Act II. Unusual structure, but it was necessary given<br />

where the series had gone to.<br />

CB: And it functions as a device to get us into Crichton going into these fears, exploring the depth of his<br />

fear about what will happen. It’s sort of a springboard for it.<br />

BB: You know, what is also interesting as we’ve done commentaries is how closely linked the<br />

commentaries are in the episodes that we seem to like from the inside. And, “<strong>Dog</strong> <strong>With</strong> <strong>Two</strong> <strong>Bones</strong>”:<br />

<strong>The</strong>re it is. It’s also one of our darkest episodes in regards to the amount of light available that we use.<br />

Everything is under-lit. <strong>The</strong>re are shafts of light coming in where it sparks….<br />

CB: We would joke about this as well. We always had to play, you know, the high stakes of the scene.<br />

And we would joke <strong>and</strong> say it was because at any moment we could die. And looking back at some of<br />

these episodes, a lot of people die. I mean, we’ve had Crais make the ultimate sacrifice with him <strong>and</strong><br />

Talyn, <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong> had been given the honor of naming the baby ship <strong>and</strong> developed a relationship of sorts<br />

with the ship as had Crais, <strong>and</strong> all of the characters that had come <strong>and</strong> gone <strong>and</strong> the consequences of all<br />

our actions. And we’ve come to do this simple thing, supposedly a simple thing of burying Talyn <strong>and</strong> sort<br />

of laying that chapter to rest <strong>and</strong>….<br />

On screen: <strong>The</strong> wedding reception in <strong>John</strong>’s vision, inter-cut with Moya scenes. <strong>Aeryn</strong> tosses the bouquet.<br />

BB: Really precise lighting there if you look at it when Crichton is on <strong>and</strong> the contrast of the dark to the<br />

light of what is going on in his head which is really kinda twisted. You know, Tammy took a good header<br />

to catch that….<br />

CB (chuckling): She certainly did.<br />

BB: But if you look at these dark lightings <strong>and</strong> you see the little pens of light in the eyes that light up the<br />

interior light, it’s not easy to achieve that. It takes a little bit of work. Rusty, Russell Bacon our DOT<br />

definitely put the work in to make the look of this piece right.<br />

CB: It was so weird shooting earthbound episodes like this. At the wedding episode I sent a Polaroid to<br />

my mom <strong>and</strong> said, here is a picture of me in a wedding dress, cuz you’ll never get to see it any other time.<br />

(laughs).<br />

BB (chuckling): At least not a white wedding dress.


CB: Yeah.<br />

BB (referring to the commentary): Look at your reaction. You’re still funny. Right in the middle of the<br />

drama here <strong>and</strong> you’re still workin’ the laughs.<br />

CB: Was I being funny?<br />

BB: That’s funny. You were “oh boy,” kinda the “oh, what is he on about?” look. But Crichton’s so<br />

distracted throughout this entire piece. He doesn’t really participate in the A story, he just kinda walks<br />

along dreamily thinking about these things. You know, but that’s what it’s about….<br />

CB: He’s more cheery in a way at the beginning of these earth visions. It’s still…. D’Argo’s got two<br />

women….<br />

BB: Yeah, his visions will get progressively darker <strong>and</strong> more troubled. That’s it, there’s our A plot.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y’re not going to let Talyn…. <strong>The</strong>re’s a rogue Leviathan out there that….<br />

CB: <strong>The</strong>y’re not happy about.<br />

BB: <strong>The</strong>y’re unhappy about something, blah blah blah, a lot of expensive CGI, blah blah blah, now when<br />

am I up? (laughs). <strong>The</strong>y don’t spend the CG on us, Claud. It’s all about…. No, that’s not true.<br />

On screen: Jool <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong> talking.<br />

CB: This is a peculiar scene. <strong>The</strong>y needed a scene with Jool <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong>, <strong>and</strong> Jool <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong> didn’t have a<br />

relationship, really.<br />

(general laughter at the scene)<br />

CB: “I don’t know you, but….”<br />

BB: “I’ve never played a scene with you but….” Sort of an odd scene I guess. Did you have much to do<br />

with Tammy or Jool?<br />

CB: No. She drove <strong>Aeryn</strong> absolutely crazy.<br />

BB: That was the season of…. Yeah, <strong>and</strong> she screams <strong>and</strong> melts metal.<br />

CB: Yeah.<br />

BB (sarcastically): I can’t underst<strong>and</strong> why any audience member wouldn’t underst<strong>and</strong> entirely what’s<br />

going on. “I just dropped in. <strong>The</strong>y do weird stuff on that show.” Could you imagine if this was the first<br />

episode you saw? You can take a good dozen episodes of Farscape <strong>and</strong> say I love this episode. And it<br />

would be the first episode someone would see. If I recommended episodes to people they would come<br />

away thinking I was deranged. Because I would recommend this episode, <strong>and</strong> most people coming in<br />

would have no sense…. This is a season ender, therefore it’s a conclusion. It’s the final act of the season.<br />

On screen: First scene of Chiana <strong>and</strong> <strong>John</strong> talking about Chiana’s “shopping” trip, in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

CB: I love this sequence.


BB: Oh, it gets better later.<br />

CB: Oh, so it’s in the later scene. Great. Gigi does a great job. When you do a very dark show it affects<br />

everything. So sometimes we’ll see the dailies of Chiana’s makeup, <strong>and</strong> it has to be modified slightly.<br />

Because the makeup is tonal, we have to make a few adjustments in the chair.<br />

On screen: On Moya, Chiana <strong>and</strong> <strong>John</strong> having a quiet moment.<br />

BB (mimicking dialogue) “It’s cool.”<br />

CB (chuckling): What is going on with you two?<br />

BB: You know, Crichton is so off on another planet right now, which he literally is, but often is.<br />

Sometimes when you tune into <strong>John</strong> you gotta wonder, what’s up with this guy? You know. That’s sort of<br />

what this ep is about.<br />

On screen: Noranti <strong>and</strong> <strong>John</strong>.<br />

BB (mimicking dialogue): “Listen Wrinkles.” Look, no one knows her name. And she was never named<br />

in the script. She had a name in the script, but no one ever says “my name is Noranti.” No one ever said<br />

“this is Noranti.” So we made a point while we were going through the episode of going: “Who is that<br />

woman? Does anyone know her name?”<br />

CB: “Where does she come from?” Instead of going through the lengthy process of really establishing her<br />

as a member of the crew….<br />

BB: We really just kinda go, “who is she?” <strong>and</strong> “what is she doing here?”<br />

CB: And “why is she still here?”<br />

BB: And she’s an integral part of the story. We accept her as part of the story but only by going “who is<br />

that woman?” We never do that. That’s really cool.<br />

CB: I don’t reckon Noranti really likes <strong>Aeryn</strong>, at all.<br />

BB: Um, I think she’s just jealous of <strong>John</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s relationship. She wants to have the relationship<br />

with <strong>Aeryn</strong>.<br />

On screen: <strong>Aeryn</strong> being fed wedding cake, in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

CB: A rare occasion when you see me smiling on the show.<br />

BB: It’s beautiful. That’s another reason to love this.<br />

On screen: First scene of wedding massacre, in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

CB: Here we go. This is the Farscape twist on the wedding. I’m going crazy….<br />

BB: Great overhead shot, 10 mil lens.<br />

CB: That’s an excellent shot.


BB: It’s a beautiful overhead shot. You know, the way this all cuts together…. Andrew Prowse, who is<br />

the director of this episode, <strong>and</strong> who is the absolute, work horse, backbone, guy that makes Farscape<br />

happen….<br />

CB: An unsung hero.<br />

BB: <strong>The</strong> most unsung hero in Farscape history directed this episode. Mr. Andrew Prowse. Remember<br />

that name, kids. Andrew is an editor.<br />

CB: Okay, it’s Prowsie.<br />

BB: Prowsie is an editor. Started as an editor <strong>and</strong> became a director. And, when you watch his episodes,<br />

there’s a brilliant quality to his editing, <strong>and</strong> he’s editing as he shoots. Part of that process is going,<br />

“Alright, I’m not sure entirely what I’m gonna need, so I’m gonna make sure I get this, this, this, <strong>and</strong><br />

this.” As an editor he knows there are certain things he wants, <strong>and</strong> then makes sure he covers his butt.<br />

On screen: <strong>John</strong> eavesdropping on <strong>Aeryn</strong> <strong>and</strong> Jack, in his vision.<br />

BB (chuckling): Look at Crichton completely stonewalled, stone-faced. Sunglasses. <strong>Aeryn</strong> in sunglasses.<br />

CB: <strong>The</strong>y were mine. My Gucci’s.<br />

BB: Another thing that we did was, while we were shooting, was try to…. “Wake up, I’m awake….” To<br />

try to weave those places, weave those scenes together. And some of them shifted around a bit but a lot of<br />

times they were where we weaved them.<br />

CB: Andrew <strong>and</strong> I talked about this the other day, actually, when I was in Sydney, about, I think, we are a<br />

generation that prefers non-linear storytelling. We’re an educated audience now, <strong>and</strong> we’re TV <strong>and</strong> film<br />

literate, <strong>and</strong> we like it to be mixed up a bit. And Pulp Fiction was an example of that, <strong>and</strong> whenever we<br />

do stories with Andrew he’s always trying to find ways to tell it in a non-linear fashion, <strong>and</strong> take an old<br />

tale <strong>and</strong> twist it.<br />

On screen: Chiana’s monologue to the ship.<br />

BB: Yeah, I think you’re right. You know, MTV changed the way we view things, <strong>and</strong> viewers can<br />

process a lot more story visually than they were traditionally expected or allowed to. So, even if you’re<br />

not getting this linear, point to point to point story, which in an episode like this is sometimes difficult to<br />

pick up, you’re still getting the story, <strong>and</strong> you’re getting these moments which resonate emotionally <strong>and</strong><br />

intellectually. <strong>The</strong>re are a few times in this scene whe re we see jump cut technique. You know, Andrew is<br />

shooting a scene <strong>and</strong> basically running a camera on the same scene from the same time position several<br />

times <strong>and</strong> then inter-cutting between the sizes, <strong>and</strong> repeating certain sections for dramatic effect. Very<br />

non-naturalistic editing.<br />

CB: Sometimes it’s introduced because it’s a scene…. You know, it’s the last episode of the season, <strong>and</strong><br />

we’ve got a lot of goodbyes, a lot of discussions, a lot of character-based scenes. And when Gigi was<br />

doing a monologue to the ship, you know you have to find new, creative ways of doing that. Lani <strong>and</strong> I<br />

spent a lot of time talking to thin air, to Talyn. You’d have to talk to the DRDs to talk to Moya.<br />

BB: Yea, but jump cutting is something that Soderbergh used to great effect in….


CB: Traffic.<br />

On screen: Return to scene of <strong>John</strong> <strong>and</strong> Chiana <strong>and</strong> her shoplifting, in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

BB: Traffic. Oh, here’s the rest of that scene you were looking for.<br />

CB: I love it.<br />

BB: Gigi’s great in this. She’s very funny.<br />

CB: I love that it turns out that it’s been stolen.<br />

BB: Everything’s been stolen.<br />

CB: <strong>The</strong>y’ve all been stolen.<br />

BB: <strong>The</strong> tags are on them. She’s stolen everything in this scene.<br />

CB: Nice detail. Totally earth inappropriate.<br />

BB: She’s gonna be inappropriate all the way through.<br />

On screen: Chiana spreads her legs, <strong>and</strong> then canoodles with Jack, in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

CB: Look. Whoop!<br />

(laughter at Chiana spreading her legs)<br />

BB (response to something unintelligible): That was actually a reflection off of something on the set. Pfft.<br />

Pfft. She comes in <strong>and</strong>….<br />

CB: And Dad, he’s got a stolen hat. It’s so twisted. <strong>The</strong>n they kiss.<br />

(laughter at Chiana <strong>and</strong> Jack canoodling)<br />

CB: Oh my gosh. David writes a lot of episodes like this where the language from one scene can cross<br />

over, <strong>and</strong> the response can come in the following scene in a completely different context. A way of<br />

getting exposition across….<br />

BB: Yeah, I mean there is an element where it’s massaged on the floor as well. But you know, the scenes<br />

are opened up <strong>and</strong> lend themselves to that kind of thing, particularly when you’re jumping in <strong>and</strong> out.<br />

Really, um, big CG in this episode. You get down to the end of the year <strong>and</strong> they must have been raiding<br />

the cookie jar to find money for the CG on this.<br />

CB: Well, I was going to say it’s primarily ship-bound, but we do have the earth sequences which would<br />

have been expensive as soon as we go out on location….<br />

BB: Oh yeah. This would be an expensive episode to shoot, because you’ve got all of the earth clothes,<br />

you’ve got wardrobe, you’ve got locations, you’ve got moving the unit around, <strong>and</strong> then you’ve got this<br />

big CG element <strong>and</strong> a there’s few explosions in here….


CB: Speaking of clothes, it was fun. It’s amazing to work on a show with a budget like this when they<br />

say, “what do you think you should wear?” And I said I think it would be quite nice if <strong>Aeryn</strong> goes down<br />

to Earth if she’s still wearing leather. And we went to this fabulous shop on Oxford Street <strong>and</strong> got you<br />

<strong>and</strong> me a leather jacket. It’s in my closet today.<br />

BB: What we have here is part of the continuation of the final episodes of the latter half of this season.<br />

This season as much as any other had a direct continuation between the splitting of the Crichtons <strong>and</strong><br />

things being linked together. <strong>The</strong> makeup. My makeup artist, Margaret Aston this year, the stencil work<br />

she did on my arm which we had to take off, remove, put on depending on, you know, the writing on the<br />

arm. But in addition to that, we also tapered back, Crichton has a split lip <strong>and</strong> a bruise under his eye<br />

which he’s carried over from the last episode, giving a sense of time continuity. And doing that on a<br />

schedule like we’re on, where some days we’re shooting two <strong>and</strong> three episodes at a time. A very difficult<br />

task. Margaret was fantastic at this, <strong>and</strong> the most pro-active makeup artist that I’ve had the pleasure to<br />

work with. She was fantastic.<br />

CB: She was terrific.<br />

BB: Yeah. On Farscape, my makeup was usually the most boring job around. You know, you come on to<br />

the show <strong>and</strong> you want to work with prosthetics, you want to, you know, play with something instead of<br />

looking after the human guy all day long. And you know, Margaret had just come off Lord of the Rings,<br />

she was looking after hobbits, <strong>and</strong> she got stuck with me. But, I tell you what. She was very creative.<br />

CB: Very interesting for actors as well. Your experience on the show, especially long term, serial<br />

television, is informed by the people you’re working with on the set. But often, so much by the makeup<br />

artists <strong>and</strong> your relationship with them. You spend so much time with them. <strong>The</strong>y’re the first face you see<br />

in the morning besides the driver. And they’re the ones who sort of start to interpret <strong>and</strong> underst<strong>and</strong> your<br />

needs <strong>and</strong> know exactly what you need. And occasionally you’ll feel someone’s h<strong>and</strong>s on the back of you<br />

<strong>and</strong> someone’s giving you a little massage, <strong>and</strong> that’ll be your makeup artist giving you a bit of a spoil….<br />

BB: That was usually the grips.<br />

CB: (laughs).<br />

BB: Ever had that, where you had the grips doing your checks? I guess they wouldn’t do that to you.<br />

On screen: Kids talking to D’Argo in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

BB (mimicking dialogue/Aussie accent): “Hey, Mr. D’Argo. We must be in Australia Mr. D’Argo.”<br />

CB (mimicking): “How come we’re in Australia again?”<br />

BB (mimicking at first): “I don’t know, but in Crichton’s fantasies he’s in Sydney, mate.” Those kids are<br />

so Aussie (laughs). Kid, just shut up.<br />

CB: And what have they done? Have they bled it out? It’s very, there’s a lot of light in the Earth stuff.<br />

BB: I think they did it in post. I don’t think we overexposed while we were shooting it. I think when they<br />

went in post, they graded it light. I think Rusty graded it light. I doubt we overexposed it as we were<br />

shooting it. That’s an Andrew Prowse question. We really should have a hot line to Andrew Prowse,<br />

because most questions we have he’d be capable of answering.


CB: Oh, all of them I’m sure.<br />

BB: Well, you know there’s very few people who know the series inside <strong>and</strong> out <strong>and</strong> backwards. Andrew<br />

Prowse, Deb Peart, David Kemper, it’s a short list, Dave Elsey. Everybody has their area, but Andrew<br />

was in all areas. He’s unusual in that regard. He was on the floor, <strong>and</strong> in editing, <strong>and</strong> supervising CG, <strong>and</strong><br />

dealing with pesky actors. So we have this plan going on all the time we’ve been rattling on about other<br />

things <strong>and</strong> how we shoot stuff, there’s a plan coming to fruition. We’re just getting to the end of Act II.<br />

CB: We need something for Jool to be doing so she’s helping Chiana commiserate.<br />

BB: Chiana got, Chiana had Rygel in season 2, <strong>and</strong> Jool in season 3, <strong>and</strong> in season 4 I guess they gave her<br />

someone else.<br />

CB: Yeah, <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong> was busy so she’s not commiserating over the ship that she had a very strong bond<br />

with.<br />

BB: But you always wanted to hang out with Chiana. Why was that?<br />

CB: Well, I got tired of the fact that the women were always really bitchy with each other on the ship.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y were always fighting.<br />

BB: But everybody was always fighting.<br />

CB: Yeah, but it would have been nice for two women to appreciate each other’s differences <strong>and</strong> still sort<br />

of make a point of getting on.<br />

BB: Well, you know, I would agree with you, but it’s kind of like when David came to me once with a<br />

scene <strong>and</strong> said, “I decided it was going to be a mature relationship.” I said: “We don’t have mature<br />

relationships. Mature relationships are boring!”<br />

BB: No, but sometimes it’s interesting, like in the episode where we go down to Earth, the Crichtons’<br />

Christmas one, <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong> is talking to Crichton’s ex-girlfriend. And you know, instead of having a<br />

catfight, they talk very maturely <strong>and</strong> the subtext is very rich, <strong>and</strong> it’s just two women talking about<br />

something they can’t really have any control over.<br />

On screen: D’Argo <strong>and</strong> <strong>John</strong> in Lo’La.<br />

BB: That was impressive. D’Argo’s ship has an impressive gun.<br />

CB: Yeah.<br />

BB: Wow.<br />

CB: Shooting…these things on a little Gimbel set. That growler was a little more substantial. It could fit<br />

half the cast.<br />

BB: Lo’La.<br />

CB: Lo’La.


BB: Yeah, cuz you just called it a growler. Which of course was the on-set name for it. I think it was the<br />

writing room name for it is the prowler <strong>and</strong> the growler. But in the American context a growler is….<br />

CB: Oh, I know what that means. I couldn’t believe that it was ever referred to as that. But it was in the<br />

script. It was in the script.<br />

BB: No, but we never called it a growler. <strong>The</strong> audience is finally learning that D’Argo’s ship is called a<br />

growler. Just so you know…. I always wanted to call it the guppy. Kinda looked like a guppy to me.<br />

Didn’t look like a growler.<br />

CB: That’s rude. Stop saying it.<br />

On screen: Rygel saying he’s happy he can now go home.<br />

BB (laughing): Look at this, Rygel is ecstatic.<br />

CB: <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s going mad.<br />

BB: But Crichton is not happy.<br />

CB: <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s got something going on that she hasn’t been telling anyone.<br />

BB: God knows what that is. Did she ever tell us?<br />

CB: No, uh, what happens after the coin toss? <strong>The</strong>y find out. He finds out.<br />

BB: Oh yes, that’s right, she does have something going on.<br />

CB: Oh, yes.<br />

BB: <strong>The</strong> whole audience finds out. I lost my way in the story. I was relieved to hear that Crichton was a<br />

hero at the end of blowing up the ship. That he actually went back <strong>and</strong> saved somebody. Look, they made<br />

him a hero again. He just blew up the ship. I thought he was a terrorist. No, he’s a nice guy. Not that he’s<br />

a nice guy, but….<br />

CB: At least you learned something from Zhaan’s visitation in “<strong>John</strong> Quixote.” Which comes later.<br />

(laughs).<br />

BB: Which comes later. (laughs).<br />

CB: Right, but because it’s science fiction….<br />

BB: Here’s the thing. <strong>The</strong>re was a time warp.<br />

CB (in Yank accent): Through the space-time continuum in a room with a spinning fan.<br />

BB: Right. This was season 3.<br />

CB (in princess voice): So confusthing.


BB: Yeah, well, there you go. <strong>John</strong>’s going to sit down <strong>and</strong> talk about his dreams <strong>and</strong> hopes. Once a year,<br />

whether we want to or not, Crichton’s got to sit down <strong>and</strong> talk about his dreams <strong>and</strong> hopes.<br />

CB: Well it’s like the opening title sequences. You know, “my name is <strong>John</strong> Crichton.” It changed<br />

slightly every year, didn’t it, to adapt?<br />

BB: I think it changed twice after the first season. It didn’t change in the second season, then we had new<br />

opening titles in the third season, then it changed again the fourth season. I don’t know what’s planned for<br />

the miniseries.<br />

CB: Oh, that’s interesting.<br />

BB: It may be incorporating that scene…. “Once upon a time.”<br />

CB (in Yank announcer voice): “In a l<strong>and</strong> before time.”<br />

BB (in announcer voice): “<strong>The</strong>re was a boy named <strong>John</strong>.”<br />

CB (in Yank announcer voice): “In a year before l<strong>and</strong>.”<br />

BB (in announcer voice): “In a place far, far away.”<br />

CB: <strong>The</strong>re you go. <strong>The</strong> beginning of the end.<br />

On screen: Wedding scene in <strong>John</strong>’s vision, intercut with <strong>John</strong> <strong>and</strong> Noranti dancing on Moya.<br />

BB: Yeah. Well, you know, I think we were talkin’ about this. David said: “you know the wedding<br />

scene’s a minute.” (laughs). “It’s only going to be a minute.<br />

CB: <strong>Two</strong> days.<br />

BB: Seven seconds.” <strong>The</strong>re’s this line about seven seconds. David Kemper has great ideas, <strong>and</strong> when he<br />

pitches an idea that goes too big he goes, “no, it was supposed to be like seven seconds long.” So the<br />

seven second mark on a David Kemper idea…. I think the wedding was supposed to take seven seconds.<br />

“Five steps, like seven seconds.” And actually it’s this beautiful, lyrical sort of fantasy. But this is what he<br />

wanted to do. He wanted to give the audience their fantasy. He’s gonna give them their fantasy, <strong>and</strong> we’re<br />

gonna say, you can never have this fantasy.<br />

CB: Yeah.<br />

BB: It’s very bittersweet. You’re sayin’ it to Crichton, <strong>and</strong> by virtue of that saying it to the audience. Ya<br />

know, you may be holding out fantasies of this white wedding, which apparently Crichton is….<br />

CB: Like the Farscape Christmas, you know. “Merry frelling Christmas.”<br />

BB: Exactly. It’s a way of saying, you know this is not your daddy’s sci fi. It ain’t all going to be happy,<br />

<strong>and</strong> it’s never gonna be what you think it is. But nonetheless, the audience still gets to enjoy the wedding<br />

for about two minutes, or maybe more. <strong>The</strong>re’s a cute couple….<br />

CB (shyly): Yeah, we look quite sweet together.


BB (laughing): Put that on the cover of Sci Fi Magazine. (in dorky voice) “<strong>The</strong>y look quite sweet<br />

together.”<br />

CB: This was a fun day for me. <strong>The</strong>y had two wedding dresses for me made, or they made them so that if<br />

one got blood on it, as you’ll see in a minute, you know, we still had one spare. And they weren’t gonna<br />

squib me <strong>and</strong> I said, “no, no, no, put the squib on me.” Cuz I did all the others, I think, in CGI, <strong>and</strong> they<br />

actually put a practical squib on my dress. I loved that.<br />

BB: How incongruous. You know, Pilot, Rygel, D’Argo,… God knows what he’s doing. All these aliens<br />

at this earthbound wedding.<br />

CB: Different side of <strong>Aeryn</strong>.<br />

On screen: Massacre begins in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

BB: And, CG enhanced on the shot. That’s the blood, they put the blood spot on. <strong>The</strong>y did that for a lot of<br />

these.<br />

CB: At this point I think David Kemper was sitting underneath the table with me.<br />

BB: Not when we were firing shots off. During the conga scene.<br />

CB: Right.<br />

BB: He was there during the conga, when D’Argo was leading the conga. Which isn’t in the cut, but I<br />

think it’s in the DVD extras somewhere.<br />

CB: I love this bit. Gigi going up <strong>and</strong> over the table.<br />

BB: All of it. I wonder what Andrew’s paradigm was for this sequence. I’m just trying to think where I’ve<br />

seen something like this. <strong>The</strong>re’s a lyrical, beautiful quality….<br />

CB: Platoon.<br />

BB: Yeah, maybe it’s Platoon, but it’s obviously a war movie of some sort. But, the contrast of these<br />

beautiful images, the cake, the white dress <strong>and</strong> the flowers, <strong>and</strong> the cold-blooded slaughter which is going<br />

on around is beautiful.<br />

CB: And great drama to play that at a wedding which is supposed to be sacrosanct to have such<br />

destruction <strong>and</strong> chaos <strong>and</strong> disaster. And these two people….This sequence in particular, us scrambling to<br />

get to tables, <strong>and</strong> for the wedding couple, the bride <strong>and</strong> groom to hide, as it reaches towards its inevitable<br />

<strong>and</strong> inexorable doom.<br />

BB: Do you think when they hired the hall out that we had this in, that they realized that this was gonna<br />

happen?<br />

CB: Not a chance.<br />

BB: This is really gorgeous, though.


CB: I don’t think people are ever honest about what they’re gonna do with the location. Here we go.<br />

Squib.<br />

On screen: <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s death , in <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

BB: And you’re trying to reach for it, <strong>and</strong> I’m holding your h<strong>and</strong> back so you can’t reach it. <strong>The</strong>re you<br />

got it…. “Noooo!” I was screaming while that was going on.<br />

CB: And we decided to put in the line that was an echo of something Crichton had said.<br />

BB: Yeah, <strong>and</strong> that was your addition. You said, I wanna say this, because it’s in Crichton’s head. And<br />

that’s an actor thinking outside of the box of their performance, thinking about the story, <strong>and</strong> how does<br />

this resonate with the story.<br />

CB (repeating dialogue): “Don’t worry. I’ve never felt better.” Yeah.<br />

BB: Yeah, Claud put that line in, <strong>and</strong> it’s about advancing the story, not about what typically happens,<br />

which is an actor trying to advance their character, regardless of the story. But it’s, that’s the normal<br />

approach to things, but that line is not a line which is like, oh this would be really great for my character.<br />

CB: It’s a tough one to sell, but you did it better than I did.<br />

(laughter)<br />

BB: But it’s, you know, I like the line.<br />

CB: Wonderful, to have that carnage, <strong>and</strong> Scorpius coming in to look over everything he’s done,<br />

everything he’s created. Wayne Pygram made an interesting comment about the fact that his character’s<br />

always the one driving the scene <strong>and</strong> he walks in <strong>and</strong> drives it home. And once he joins the ship later on<br />

in season 4, it was an interesting task for him to adapt to that. Here he is in his element, having a look at<br />

everything he’s done.<br />

BB: And you come back from the act. And that’s just the end of Act III. We’ve got a whole other very<br />

long act to go. Whatever happened to that A story about burying Talyn? You know, cuz that’s what it<br />

was. It’s just structurally fascinating as they cut it, you know. Oh, what do I really know?<br />

CB: Well it holds, because I think a lot of people like to see character stuff.<br />

BB: Yeah, but common wisdom is you don’t spend this much time, particularly at season end, doing<br />

character stuff. This is the season ender where you’re going to leave them with the big cliffhanger, you’ve<br />

got the big story <strong>and</strong> gr<strong>and</strong> arc stuff. And what you realize by doing this is the gr<strong>and</strong> arc is the character<br />

stuff. At this point it’s focused on Crichton <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong>, because you have to resolve that, but at other<br />

times it’s focused on other people. And when Farscape works, it’s the characters driving the story<br />

forward, <strong>and</strong> even the vast destruction of worlds really only relates to the story inasmuch as it puts<br />

pressure on our people <strong>and</strong> tells something about ourselves, thereby telling a story about human nature.<br />

CB: That’s what I always enjoy about the last episodes of the season. It’s an opportunity to take a<br />

moment, take a beat with each character…. Subvert the clichés.<br />

On screen: Crichton with Noranti, making the dog with two bones analogy.


BB: Crichton doesn’t want people to see him cry. Just turn away. Don’t let them know you’re crying. <strong>The</strong><br />

tendency as an actor is to go, “hey look I can cry.” But I like how Crichton, you know, I’m trying not to<br />

cry. And when you realize you’re gonna cry, you got to turn away so that someone doesn’t see it.<br />

CB (excited): Here we go. <strong>The</strong> coin toss scene, several weeks in the making. For Andrew Prowse, David<br />

Kemper, you <strong>and</strong> me trying to work out what we wanted to do with this.<br />

BB: Yeah, <strong>and</strong> then even when we started it, we started shooting it, in the middle of the day, the final day<br />

of shooting, two to three hours in.<br />

CB: A lot of people coming down to watch it because it was like theatre….<br />

BB: It’s like the last episode, last scene of the season, like the last thing we shot. We all turned to each<br />

other, me, Claud, <strong>and</strong> Andrew, <strong>and</strong> said it’s not working. We have to re-block it. We re-blocked <strong>and</strong> reshot<br />

the scene.<br />

CB: Which has never happened.<br />

BB: No, I think the crew was ready to hang us by the yardarm.<br />

CB: Let’s watch it.<br />

On screen: <strong>John</strong> challenges <strong>Aeryn</strong> to look him in the eye <strong>and</strong> say goodbye. “My name is <strong>John</strong>.”<br />

BB: That was something I wanted.<br />

On screen: “Do you love <strong>John</strong> Crichton?”<br />

CB: Esoteric question.<br />

BB: Certainly, if you haven’t seen the series. One of my favorite scenes. Oh, this kiss is so painful.<br />

CB: Mmm.<br />

BB: Especially your cold-blooded response.<br />

CB: I know.<br />

BB: One of the most painful <strong>and</strong> yet….<br />

CB: Look at the resisting.<br />

BB: But she can’t resist. It’s sensual <strong>and</strong> painful.<br />

CB: She’s stuck in the moment for a second.<br />

On screen: <strong>The</strong> kiss. “What does that taste like?” “Yesterday.”<br />

CB <strong>and</strong> BB: Ohhhhhh.


BB: That’s cold. Look, I wanted to put this scene on my reel. I really enjoy this scene, I wanted to put it<br />

on my reel. And every time I watched it I realized nobody is going to underst<strong>and</strong> what the hell it is I’m<br />

talking about. I mean, they can see that, you know, obviously you’re brilliant. We’ll hire Claudia Black<br />

off Ben Browder’s reel. But you know it’s hard…. It would draw me back. If I was flipping channels I<br />

would be drawn back <strong>and</strong> want to see what it was about, but I don’t think I’d underst<strong>and</strong> what it was<br />

about.<br />

CB: David Kemper was trying to find a way, that if he was in love with a girl, how could he possibly let<br />

her go, what device would have to be used to get him to accept that she needs to leave. And I said look,<br />

we’ve always established the concept of fate between the two of them. <strong>John</strong> has always talked about fate<br />

with <strong>Aeryn</strong> <strong>and</strong> she never believed in it. Now she finally says to him, alright, if we are really meant to be<br />

together, let’s put it in the h<strong>and</strong>s of fate. This issue is too big for her to deal with. She needs to leave. She<br />

needs to sort it out. And I said why don’t we sort of do it on a coin toss. Because I think Crichton<br />

established something beforeh<strong>and</strong>, <strong>and</strong> this is an echo of it.<br />

BB: Well, you know, <strong>and</strong> the first tack on it was okay, we’ve matured, we can now say goodbye, you can<br />

go your way <strong>and</strong> I can go my way. And I just absolutely went schizoid, you know, at that idea. I said no<br />

you can’t do that, he’s got to come in, he’s got to come in <strong>and</strong> say, “I’m going with you.” I’m not going to<br />

let her go. “Now that you’re here, I’m not going to let you go.” But, then came the problem of how do we<br />

convince Crichton to let her go. And, you know, your solution is actually an elegant solution.<br />

CB: Well, I went to Ben <strong>and</strong> said I’ve got an idea. I’ll tell it to you, <strong>and</strong> you can tell it to Prowsie <strong>and</strong><br />

Prowsie can tell it to David.<br />

BB: Well, you know, the negotiation of how these scenes evolve. You know, very difficult for a scene<br />

like this to evolve in the dark solitude of a writer’s office. <strong>The</strong>y can <strong>and</strong> they often do. But for those of us<br />

with all of our stakes in the ground about what we wanted for the show, for these characters, it was<br />

necessary for us to play the scene to have some sort of agreement about what it was we were doing.<br />

CB: And David offered it to us. He was saying, “I just don’t know how to do it. Why would I let a woman<br />

go that I love? I’m trying to work that out in my head.” And I said well, this isn’t about what happens on<br />

Earth, this is about a woman who’s pregnant to the man who was cloned that she loved who died…. And<br />

so it doesn’t really apply.<br />

BB: (laughs).<br />

CB: And I’ve always tried to think about Crichton <strong>and</strong> <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s relationship in terms of inexorability <strong>and</strong><br />

the big, sort of, you know, romantic arc of fate. Let the fates decide. Andrew showed me this scene cut<br />

together before the whole ep was finished <strong>and</strong> we sat there quietly watching this scene very proudly with<br />

tears in our eyes. It was a great moment to see this. My roommate saw it at one stage <strong>and</strong> said wow, this is<br />

a really good scene, <strong>and</strong> she had no idea about the characters <strong>and</strong> what they’d been through. So we all did<br />

very good work on it.<br />

On screen: <strong>The</strong> coin toss.<br />

BB: Slow down to 40 frames.<br />

CB: Last shot. Fantastic. <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s watching the coin <strong>and</strong> Crichton’s watching <strong>Aeryn</strong>. Just great.<br />

BB: You like that choice?


CB: I love it. Ready? <strong>Aeryn</strong>’s watching to see what’s going to happen to her.<br />

BB: That’s not an easy shot to get, the coin going up in the air, cuz you know….<br />

CB: Oh look. He ain’t looking at the coin.<br />

BB: I wasn’t takin’ my eyes…. I didn’t care where the coin came down. I was keepin’ my eyes on the<br />

money.<br />

CB: That was fan…tastic. And I wanted the episode to finish there. I wanted it to finish with the coin in<br />

the air.<br />

BB: Yeah, but we still had a few bits left to do. We still have to get to our season cliffhanger.<br />

CB: But what a cliffhanger! That’s not a bad cliffhanger.<br />

BB: It would have been an interesting cliffhanger. But, you know….<br />

CB: But this is a nice idea, too. Side by side in the….<br />

BB: You see where we’re going. I like this. You know, Kemper likes giving people goodbyes. And there<br />

had been more goodbyes scattered through the script <strong>and</strong> they ended up being here. In a way it’s more<br />

beautiful <strong>and</strong> lyrical to have Crichton thinking about it. <strong>The</strong> combination of Andrew Prowse <strong>and</strong> David<br />

Kemper is a very good combination.<br />

CB: Formidable team.<br />

On screen: More happy wedding bits from <strong>John</strong>’s vision.<br />

BB: And these beautiful shots. Andrew knowing that he was gonna need these things <strong>and</strong> the script<br />

developed as it went along. While we were shooting it was still developing. And sometimes they work<br />

out. For my money, I like how this one works out. <strong>The</strong> sum of it is much greater than the parts. And you<br />

know, it’s one of those things which is lyrical. And Claud came in <strong>and</strong> read off lines for me on the day<br />

that I had to shoot this, as opposed to having Bubba yelling them. Bubba being our first AD.<br />

CB: Yeah, they dragged me out of ADR <strong>and</strong> I came in to do this. <strong>The</strong>re’s my signature one tear down the<br />

right eye.<br />

BB: <strong>The</strong> right eye tear. Did you ever do the left ear? <strong>The</strong> left ear. She cries from her ears. <strong>The</strong> left eye?<br />

CB: Depended on where the camera was. <strong>The</strong>re we go.<br />

BB: Sometimes though, it’s difficult to play these things that occur inside your head. Don’t know if<br />

you’ve ever had this problem. Harvey. So now Harvey shows up. Oh, man, okay, I finally get what people<br />

were saying when they said the show was complex.<br />

CB: How did that guy suddenly get in the space ship? What is he doing there?<br />

BB: What’s he doing there <strong>and</strong> why.… You know, can you imagine? I’m just imagining people saying<br />

that.


CB: Is this guy a manifestation of the green lady’s crazy dust drugs? One of the best devices, I think, ever<br />

on the show, was the….<br />

BB: Harvey.<br />

CB: Harvey.<br />

BB: I love Harvey.<br />

CB: Just opened the show up in such a great way with the pop culture references.<br />

BB: And Harvey is a cool character <strong>and</strong> Wayne has a great time with him. Oh wait, here’s where the<br />

secret comes out.<br />

CB: That’s right.<br />

On screen: <strong>John</strong> hears what Noranti whispered in his ear.<br />

CB: I read that scene. I didn’t know what it meant.<br />

BB: Really interesting…. What’s that scene talking about? <strong>With</strong> child? That means she’s pregnant.<br />

CB (sarcastically): Oh, really?<br />

BB: Not that she’s hangin’ out with a child. She’s actually pregnant. <strong>The</strong> editing on this, the editing is<br />

fantastic. I must have been shocking on the day because the editing is just that good, it’s actually making<br />

it work. Mr. Prowse….<br />

CB: You notice when you’re doing ADR that you’re never say a full line on screen. <strong>The</strong>y’re always<br />

cutting to you in the middle of a line <strong>and</strong> away from you before it’s a finished. Which makes it an<br />

interesting exercise doing the ADR. Normally an actor can look at their own eyes on screen <strong>and</strong> that will<br />

help them get the rhythm of what they’re doing.<br />

BB: You know, that was the mother of all coincidences. I’m coming back <strong>and</strong>….<br />

CB: A wormhole!<br />

BB: And a wormhole appears! And the wormhole….<br />

CB: Sucks up….<br />

BB: Good sound design there too. Check it out. Yeah, somebody down there in Australia knew what they<br />

were doing. (mimicking dialogue) “You’ve got to be kidding me.”<br />

CB: And this is great, this shot here.<br />

BB: Pull back <strong>and</strong> he’s alone out in space. Which is where David wanted to get to.<br />

CB: That’s right. He had that image of us, <strong>and</strong> the prowler….<br />

BB: <strong>The</strong> long…. Isolated, resetting the boards so that they move into season 4.


On screen: Closing credits.<br />

CB: Where all the characters are reintroduced one by one.<br />

BB: If there was going to be a season 4.<br />

CB: Did we know at this stage?<br />

BB: Is there a season 4?<br />

CB: When we were shooting that, did we know….<br />

BB: You were there when we shot it.<br />

CB (in mock anger): Stop being difficult!<br />

BB (in Aussie accent): Ah no? What?<br />

CB: Alright, be difficult.<br />

BB (in Aussie accent): Okay, fine.<br />

CB: When we were shooting the last week of season 3, at that stage did we know we were coming back at<br />

all?<br />

BB: No we did not. We were not sure. We never knew if we were coming back.<br />

CB: Seed of our pain.<br />

BB: And the one time we thought we were coming back, we didn’t come back.<br />

CB: But then we did, we did!<br />

BB: And then we did! So are we done? Are we doing more Farscape?<br />

CB (singing, in childlike voice, to the tune of “<strong>The</strong> Song That Never Ends”): This is the show that never<br />

ends. It just goes on <strong>and</strong> on my friends.<br />

BB: I want a big movie, Claud. Come on. Let’s do a big expensive movie.<br />

CB (still singing): Some people started filming it not knowing what it was. And they'll continue filming it<br />

forever just because. This is the show that never ends. Never ends!<br />

BB: (laughs).<br />

CB: Thanks for tuning in guys. That was a somber one. Thank you Hallmark. Thank you Jim Henson<br />

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