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<strong>Regimental</strong> <strong>Secretary</strong><br />

<strong>HEADQUARTERS</strong> <strong>SMALL</strong> <strong>ARMS</strong> <strong>SCHOOL</strong> CORPS<br />

Land Warfare Centre, WARMINSTER, Wiltshire BA12 0DJ<br />

Telephone 01985 222487 Military 94381 2487<br />

Fax 01985 222972 Fax 94381 2972<br />

E-Mail (1) DINF-SASC-REGSEC-SO2<br />

E-Mail (2) Norman.Benson310@mod.uk<br />

Reference: RS/3/8/1<br />

See Distribution Date: 12 August 2010<br />

MINUTES OF THE 64th ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF THE <strong>SMALL</strong> <strong>ARMS</strong> <strong>SCHOOL</strong><br />

CORPS COMRADES ASSOCIATION HELD AT WARMINSTER ON SATURDAY 24 th<br />

JULY 2010<br />

Present<br />

Lt Col W Paterson<br />

WO1 A Owen<br />

Maj (Retd) N Benson<br />

CO SASC<br />

RSM SASC<br />

Regtl Sec SASC<br />

Chairman<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong><br />

In Attendance<br />

There were 80 Members in<br />

attendance<br />

ITEM 1 - WELCOME<br />

1. 1. Lt Col Paterson welcomed everyone present and then asked the <strong>Regimental</strong><br />

<strong>Secretary</strong> to comment on Item 2. Apologies for Absence.<br />

Chairman<br />

ITEM 2 – APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE<br />

2. The <strong>Secretary</strong> stated that he has a list of the apologies and best wishes received<br />

from the Association members. There are a few copies of the list on your seats and there<br />

was one on the notice board outside. He would not be reading them out, if however<br />

anyone would like to see the list, please see <strong>Regimental</strong> <strong>Secretary</strong> afterwards.<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong><br />

ITEM 3 – MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING<br />

3. The Minutes of the 63rd Meeting that was held on Sat 20 th July 08 were<br />

approved as read.<br />

Proposed by:<br />

Seconded by<br />

Carried<br />

Maj Redding<br />

Capt Hanson<br />

ITEM 4 - MATTERS ARISING FROM THE LAST MEETING<br />

4. There were no matters outstanding or arising from the last meeting.<br />

Chairman<br />

ITEM 5 - LOYAL GREETINGS<br />

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5. The <strong>Secretary</strong> explained a message was send to HM The Queen on behalf of<br />

the Comrades Association informing her of the 64th Meeting and he had received<br />

correspondence from Her Majesty and it reads as follows: “Please convey to all members<br />

of The Comrades Association of the Small Arms School, assembled at Warminster for<br />

their 64th t Annual Reunion and Annual General Meeting, my warm thanks for their<br />

message of loyal greetings. I much appreciate your kind words and, in return, send my<br />

best wishes for a most successful and enjoyable gathering”. ELIZABETH R.<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong><br />

6. A Loyal Greeting was also sent to our Col-in-Chief, HRH The Duke of York and<br />

he had received correspondence from the Colonel in Chief, and it is as follows: “I much<br />

appreciated the message of loyal greetings sent from you on behalf of all those attending<br />

the Comrades Association of the Small Arms School Corps at Warminster for their 64 th<br />

Annual General Meeting, 0n 24 th July, 2010. I hope that all those present have a<br />

memorable and highly enjoyable reunion.” HRH The Duke of York KG.<br />

ITEM 6 - CORPS UPDATE<br />

7. The CO SASC, Lt Col Paterson explained the Corps strength as at 30 Jun 10<br />

was 166, this included the 6 SASC (V) and 5 LSL/NRPS. 12 new members have joined<br />

the Corps since the last AGM. Recruiting is buoyant and the Sep 2010 Candidate Course<br />

will start with 13, there is only one course per year as we cannot exceed the manning<br />

levels. Posts lost are the SO3 DOSG when Capt O’Connor finishes his tour and the<br />

Range WO post in Cyprus when QMSI Dunn finishes his tour. There is a new post which<br />

is the SO2 Operational Shooting, however we will need to provide a compensating<br />

reduction. Work is in progress to achieve that and the CO stated he is now the SO1<br />

Operational Shooting. As far as Brigade posts are concerned there is a Capt and QMSI<br />

with 16 Air Assault Bde and a QMSI with 20 Bde, next year 20114 Bde and 12 Bde will<br />

each get a QMSI. He further explained only last week 7 Armd Bde requested a QMSI<br />

and also 1 Scots Guards. With Infantry Battalions 5 RIFLES and 3 Mercian both have a<br />

QMSI and there is an intent to try and provide all Inf Bns with a QMSI. Operational Tours<br />

at present are Capt Marr and QMSI Guerin who is handing over to QMSI Pattison, 3<br />

posts with UK LTT Kabul, a WO2, SSgt and a Sgt. We are also in discussion with<br />

Glasgow reference a 6 month tour as CSM Security Development Programme in<br />

Pakistan. Overall the Operational Tours are in good shape.<br />

ITEM 7 - CORPS SHOOTING<br />

CO SASC<br />

RSM SASC<br />

8. The Chairman introduced item 7.<br />

9. General. The Corps RSM informed those present that due to course<br />

commitments and the pace of work in Infantry Weapons Division Ex Tiere D’Elite did<br />

not take place in 2010 and is unlikely in the near future as the SOTR is full. As a result<br />

the SASC only shot in the Methuen Cup competition on 8 July 10 resulting in no-one<br />

being placed in the Army 100.<br />

10. Methuen 2010. The Methuen Cup team were drawn from across the Corps<br />

after a traumatic trawl!<br />

a. They were;<br />

i. WO1 Robinson – RMAS (Capt).<br />

ii. WO2 Milton – RMAS.<br />

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iii. SSgt Stewart – OPTAG.<br />

iv. SSgt Trainner – OPTAG.<br />

v. SSgt Graham-Blackett – TAG(G).<br />

vi. Sgt Gurung – IWD.<br />

b. The team practised on Sandhurst ranges the week prior to the<br />

competition and were assisted by WO1 Kerr from OSTT and WO1 Grant from<br />

ASLS doing his Jedi mind tricks!<br />

c. In recent years the highest placing of the Methuen Teams has been<br />

11 th however the 2010 Methuen Team scored 1258 and were placed 7 th<br />

overall from 21 teams that entered.<br />

d. The winner of the Hale Trophy was SSgt Stewart with a score of 220.<br />

e. No other Corps silverware was presented as there were no firers in<br />

the remainder of the AOSC.<br />

ITEM 8 - FINANCE<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong><br />

11. SASC Fund. The <strong>Secretary</strong> stated that a current 1514 was on some of the<br />

seats and a copy was on the notice board outside and he would be using these figures<br />

in his brief. He then explained the statistics as follows:<br />

a. Main Sources of Income.<br />

Subscriptions £16,979139.38<br />

CB interest £219<br />

Investment – Unrealised loss £9006<br />

Dividend Income £2469<br />

Advertising in the Journal<br />

Donations to the Fund £218<br />

Total Income £35,878<br />

b. Main Sources of Expenditure.<br />

Grants and Donations £3643<br />

ABF - £1500<br />

Welfare – £10591 which is an increase of £7651.<br />

c. Presentations.<br />

£1945 an increase of £741.<br />

d. Accumulated General Purpose Fund.<br />

£118,120 an increase of £4682<br />

£0, however Riflecraft have still to pay<br />

£325.00 for last year.<br />

The main components of the AGPF are:<br />

Cash in Bank £29,225.87<br />

Shop Stock £20,900.18<br />

Investments £72,481 (Unrealised gain of £9006)<br />

e. Investments.<br />

In accordance with the constitution, it is the OIC of the fund’s duty & policy to<br />

invest to increase the investments to protect the longevity of the fund.<br />

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The net working capital, less liabilities is just less than £48k, take out the shop<br />

stock and just over 56% of the NWC is sat in the bank<br />

(£27069) There was no investment made last year the and it is recommended<br />

not to invest anything this year in the present climate.<br />

12 The <strong>Secretary</strong> went on to say he is pleased to announce that the fund is in<br />

good shape, the shop is going steady with sales of £3929 last year and a percentage<br />

profit of 6.28%. He also mentioned there are still some commemorative tankards,<br />

plates and prints left and there are now braces available. The meeting was reminded<br />

that the SASC receives support from the ABF and normally £1500 is donated from thje<br />

fund to the ABF He would therefore like a proposer and seconder to agree to donate<br />

£1500 again this year.<br />

Proposed by:<br />

Seconded by:<br />

Carried<br />

Maj Whitchurch<br />

Maj Riddell<br />

13. The <strong>Secretary</strong> explained it was at this juncture he would be asking for funds to<br />

be voted across to offset the cost of the five Corps functions in the coming year. This<br />

year the amount needed to be voted across has increased by £600 and the total<br />

needed to cover all 5 functions this year is £6000. The <strong>Secretary</strong> asked for a proposer<br />

and seconder for the amount of £6000.00 to be voted across to offset the cost of the 5<br />

Corps functions in the coming year.<br />

Proposed by:<br />

Seconded by:<br />

Carried<br />

Capt Ronan<br />

Maj Buffey<br />

14. Points to note since the audit in February:<br />

Purchase of the stone plaque for the church which is positioned beneath the Corps<br />

window between £400 and £500.<br />

17. Weapons Collection Fund. The Fund Manager apologised for not having a<br />

F1514 for the Fund as it had been audited at the end of April and was still not<br />

complete. He did however brief the meeting using the monthly statement for Mar 10<br />

the reason being the introduction of the software at the RAO, Paxton Plus. The figures<br />

on the left relate to the last audit which was on 30 Apr 09.<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong><br />

Main sources of income are as follows.<br />

Donations £1381, a decrease of £528.<br />

Sales of weapons and Equipment £2510, an increase of £2410.<br />

Research charges £1455, an increase of £1305.<br />

CB interest: £150, a decrease of £424.<br />

Investment: as at 30 Apr 10 £2191, an increase of £1557.<br />

Dividend income: £1034, an increase of £87.<br />

Total income £6531, an increase of £2850.<br />

The main expenditure items for the Weapons Collection are as follows.<br />

Open Day 2009<br />

£551 for lunch.<br />

Set of Steps £60.<br />

Janes Infantry Weapons £466.<br />

Travel Expenses £75.<br />

Safety catch for FG42 £30<br />

The Making of the British Army (Book) £21<br />

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Electric Drill £63<br />

Property depreciation<br />

£3106 (Audio and Video Entry System).<br />

AGPF £51.771.<br />

The main components are:<br />

Cash in bank £22,347, an increase of £<br />

Investments £21,450.<br />

Total fixed assets £29,424.23, a decrease of £3740.66.<br />

The <strong>Secretary</strong> said that the fund is still in good shape with over £22k in the bank, so there<br />

is enough to cover any immediate needs.<br />

ITEM 9 - THE WEAPONS COLLECTION<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong><br />

18. Acquisitions and Disposals. The OIC briefed the meeting that during the<br />

past year 25 weapons and ancillaries were brought onto the books and 20 items were<br />

disposed of. The acquisitions were carried out thanks to agencies such as DCMT<br />

Shrivenham, RMP SIB, ITDU, Anti-tank Division, Primetake and Bill Morris. As always<br />

more weapons mostly modern European/NATO weapons are needed.<br />

19. Visitors. The number of visitors for the period Jul 09 to Jul 10 is 1536, this is<br />

an increase on last year of 205 and is broken down as follows:<br />

Jul 08 – Jul 09 Jul 09 – Jul 10<br />

Military/TA 402 335<br />

Cadets/POs 391 372<br />

UK Gov/MOD 35 32<br />

Civilians 409 608<br />

SASC Candidates 10 41<br />

Foreigners 84 148<br />

Demo/LFs 0 0<br />

The civilian numbers have increased this year, partly due to the Open Day making more<br />

groups/clubs aware of the Collection, however military numbers are down by 67.<br />

20. Trustees. There are now eight Trustees with the maximum being nine so we<br />

are still recruiting.<br />

21. Improvements in the Weapons Room. The display cards are being revamped<br />

throughout the Collection, and that is being taken on by Maj (Retd) Garth Brocksopp.<br />

ITEM 10<br />

THE PRIZE DRAW<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong><br />

22. The Chairman introduced the Prize Draw and handed over proceedings to the<br />

<strong>Secretary</strong>. He reminded everyone of the purpose of the sale of these tickets is to fund<br />

good causes and the price has remained at £1 per ticket resulting this year in sales of<br />

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540.<br />

Retired members contributed £250.<br />

Serving members bought £290.<br />

Prize money this year is £432 (80%), (£200 Retired and £232 Serving) The tickets<br />

were drawn by the RSM and a retired member.<br />

Retired members first ticket will win<br />

Second ticket will win<br />

Serving members first ticket will win<br />

Second ticket will win<br />

£120.00 - Won by Bob Hutchings<br />

£80.00 - Won by John Conway<br />

£139.00 - Won by WO2 Sullivan<br />

£93.00 - Won by WO2 Snell<br />

Winners are to see the <strong>Secretary</strong> afterwards to receive your cash prize and sign a<br />

receipt.<br />

ITEM 11 – ANY OTHER BUSINESS<br />

Chairman<br />

23. The RSM<br />

ITEM 12 – ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE NEXT MEETING<br />

Chairman<br />

28. The Reg <strong>Secretary</strong> explained that the date for the next meeting was to be<br />

confirmed as it depended on the usual variants, firm details to follow.<br />

29. The Comdt ended by thanking everyone for coming, and the meeting wound<br />

up at 1931hrs.<br />

Chairman<br />

(Signed Original)<br />

N Benson<br />

Maj (Retd)<br />

<strong>Regimental</strong> <strong>Secretary</strong><br />

Annex:<br />

A. SASC AGM – Apologies and Regrets.<br />

Distribution:<br />

Col Comdt SASC<br />

SASC Comrades Association Worldwide<br />

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Copy to:<br />

Comdt SASC*<br />

CI SASC*<br />

Adjt SASC*<br />

RSM SASC*<br />

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