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2 <strong>The</strong> <strong>Guru</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Disciple</strong><br />
Questioner: Yes, that is true.<br />
<strong>The</strong> <strong>Guru</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Disciple</strong><br />
<strong>Guru</strong> means Guide<br />
Questioner: I have tried many spiritual paths <strong>and</strong> teachers<br />
for <strong>the</strong> answer to <strong>the</strong> term ‘<strong>Guru</strong>’ <strong>and</strong> everywhere I have searched;<br />
I have not received any satisfactory answers.<br />
Dadashri: If you want to go to <strong>the</strong> station from here <strong>and</strong><br />
get lost on <strong>the</strong> way, will you not have to ask someone for help?<br />
Whom would you ask?<br />
Questioner: Someone who knows <strong>the</strong> way.<br />
Dadashri: <strong>The</strong> one that knows, is a guru. As long as you<br />
do not know <strong>the</strong> way, you need to ask someone; you may even<br />
have to ask a small child. Whomever you ask becomes your guru.<br />
Only when <strong>the</strong>re is a guru will you find <strong>the</strong> way. What would<br />
happen without your eyes? <strong>The</strong> guru is <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r eye. He clarifies<br />
your path <strong>and</strong> gives you <strong>the</strong> light to go ahead. This light is called<br />
sooj.<br />
Who needs a <strong>Guru</strong>?<br />
Questioner: Do you mean to say that a guru is necessary?<br />
Dadashri: It is like this: <strong>the</strong> road on which one gets lost is<br />
<strong>the</strong> road he is not able to figure out. If you do not know <strong>the</strong> way<br />
to <strong>the</strong> station, <strong>the</strong>n it is a problem. However, if along <strong>the</strong> way, you<br />
encounter someone who knows <strong>the</strong> way, <strong>the</strong>n you will reach <strong>the</strong><br />
station quickly, will you not?<br />
Dadashri: So you need someone who has <strong>the</strong> knowledge.<br />
It is not as if <strong>the</strong> person showing you <strong>the</strong> way is telling you to ask<br />
him. You are asking him out of your own necessity, are you not?<br />
For whose benefit are you asking?<br />
Questioner: For my own benefit.<br />
Dadashri: Or you can keep on walking without asking<br />
anyone <strong>and</strong> try to experience that! That experience will teach you<br />
that <strong>the</strong>re is a need for a guru. I will not have to teach you.<br />
So <strong>the</strong>re is a path, but <strong>the</strong>re is no one to show it to you, is<br />
<strong>the</strong>re? Only if <strong>the</strong>re were someone to show you that path can<br />
your work be accomplished.<br />
Will you not need a guru or an experienced guide<br />
(bhomiyo)? Whoever is <strong>the</strong> guru, we are considered his followers.<br />
<strong>The</strong> guru walks ahead <strong>and</strong> shows us <strong>the</strong> way. Such a person is<br />
considered an experienced guide.<br />
If a man takes <strong>the</strong> road going in <strong>the</strong> opposite direction of<br />
Surat, is he likely to reach Surat station if he keeps going in that<br />
direction? No matter how much he roams, he will not be able to<br />
find Surat station. <strong>The</strong> night would fall <strong>and</strong> <strong>the</strong> day would come<br />
but he would still not find Surat station. Such is <strong>the</strong> confusion<br />
here.<br />
When you are lost, a guide is your friend<br />
Questioner: None of <strong>the</strong> gurus shows <strong>the</strong> right path.<br />
Dadashri: But those gurus <strong>the</strong>mselves do not know <strong>the</strong><br />
way, so what can anyone do? No one has found an experienced<br />
guide yet. If he had, <strong>the</strong>n he would not have <strong>the</strong>se problems. If<br />
you had found such a guide, in addition to showing you <strong>the</strong> station<br />
he would also tell you which train to take. He would show you<br />
everything <strong>and</strong> your task would be finished. Here we have a situation