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<strong>Interview</strong> <strong>with</strong> Dr. Anthony Siegman, May 5, 2008 27<br />

This was an embarrassing—not embarrassing, but it was a difficult thing for him in a way<br />

because this was going to become something that the <strong>OSA</strong> had to sell to its members, and<br />

he was the next in line for president. <strong>The</strong> election would be held the year I was president.<br />

Eriich was in this difficult position of sincerely not believing in it, but not at the same<br />

time trying not to stand in the way. So this became, as you may know, a very<br />

controversial issue. <strong>The</strong>re were “old timers” in the <strong>OSA</strong> and some new-timers, younger<br />

timers who looked down on SPIE, I think it's fair to say. SPIE is not a society in which<br />

the primary focus is on refereed or peer reviewed work. Rather they attempt to organize<br />

meetings quickly, they're productive, get books out. <strong>The</strong>y put out a meetings proceeding<br />

a day all year long. <strong>The</strong>y put out three hundred to three hundred and fifty volumes of<br />

meetings proceedings a year.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y have a mailing list of—at the time, 250,000 names, even though they only have<br />

about twelve thousand members. And I learned from university librarians, at the time at<br />

least, that their proceedings, even though they were totally un-refereed and had a lot of<br />

what I think it would be fair to characterize as somewhat mediocre stuff, were extremely<br />

popular <strong>with</strong> industry in the Stanford area, for example, and students as well. <strong>The</strong><br />

industrial people would say, “<strong>The</strong>se proceedings are very timely, up to date, they're very<br />

useful to us. Just give them to us, don't worry about the peer review, and we'll sort out<br />

what we like.” And that was a very different ethos from <strong>OSA</strong> in which I think around 65<br />

percent of the membership is Ph.D.s, and, I would really emphasize, peer-reviewed<br />

journals and peer-reviewed meetings are the core of what <strong>OSA</strong> does.

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