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I would not have met my wife!’<br />

<strong>The</strong> English-Speaking Union (of course) gave me a year in the USA as a boy of 17.<br />

But the English-Speaking Union gave me much else besides. For example, it was at the English-Speaking Union<br />

that I became involved with Ronald Fredenburgh, whose Current Affairs Unit gave regular<br />

Commonwealth Students’ Supper Parties, over which I sometimes presided if Ronald was away. At one of<br />

these Supper Parties (in late 1971), I met a chap from Poland called Emil Kowalski whom I visited in Krakow a<br />

couple of months later. <strong>The</strong>re, amidst the snow of the Tatra Mountains,<br />

I met a girl called Aleksandra Wacwakik.<br />

My wife, in other words.<br />

Brian Marsh – SSE (formerly BASS) 1958 – 9 and President of the Alumni Association<br />

Emma Pinder and her fiancé Nash at the <strong>Buckingham</strong> <strong>Palace</strong><br />

Commemorative Dinner 20<strong>11</strong><br />

James Probert, as part of the England Schools<br />

Debating Team, 1999<br />

‘I wouldn’t have got the job!’<br />

In 2009, I went for a job interview for a temporary position<br />

with the Treasury Solicitors. At the start of the interview,<br />

one of the interviewers looked over my CV and commented<br />

that he had also done the SSE with the ESU. I was<br />

immediately able to talk about how I had enjoyed my year<br />

at the Lawrenceville School in New Jersey, what I had<br />

gained from the experience and how that would help me in<br />

the role I was interviewing for. It was a great starting point<br />

for the interview as I instantly had something I could talk<br />

about that I knew the interviewer could relate to. A few<br />

days later, I was offered the job. Little did I know that this<br />

was a practice run for an interview I had three months later<br />

for a training position with the law firm Spring Law.<br />

Imagine my surprise (and delight) when this second<br />

interview started with the Managing Director informing me<br />

that he too had done the SSE with the ESU! I have been<br />

with Spring Law for two years now and have just been<br />

invited to stay on once I qualify as a solicitor in November<br />

20<strong>11</strong>.<br />

Emma Pinder – SSE (formerly BASS) 2001<br />

‘I wouldn’t have made friendships spanning<br />

fifteen years and half a dozen continents!’<br />

If it were not for the ESU picking me for the England<br />

Schools Debating Team when I was 15, I wouldn’t have<br />

taken my first ever trip on an aeroplane; wouldn’t have left<br />

Europe for the first time to spend two weeks in Israel and<br />

Palestine arguing (in a very constructive way) with a group<br />

of some of the most extraordinary young people in the<br />

world; wouldn’t have made friendships with them spanning<br />

fifteen years and half a dozen continents. <strong>The</strong> experience<br />

left me with a store of self-confidence that has served me<br />

well ever since, and a passion for the people, ideas and<br />

organisations that I encountered that has led me to devote<br />

my working life and much of my free time to international<br />

and educational charities. <strong>The</strong>se include the ESU itself, of<br />

which I’m a former employee and a proud member, and the<br />

World Schools Debating Championships, the destination of<br />

that first ever ESU-funded plane journey, of whose board<br />

of trustees I am now chair. I can say, without hesitation, that<br />

the ESU’s support for England’s national Schools Debating<br />

Team has changed almost every single aspect of my life for<br />

the better, and I like to think it was some of the best money<br />

they ever spent.<br />

James Probert – England Schools Debating Team 1999,<br />

Capitol Hill 2001 and ex-member of ESU staff<br />

DIALOGUE 36

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