Transcript [PDF] - House Foreign Affairs Committee Democrats
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Chairman BERMAN. The ranking member has yielded back her<br />
time.<br />
Without objection, the resolution shall be considered as read and<br />
open for amendment at any point. Members now will be recognized<br />
to strike the last word or to offer amendments. The gentleman from<br />
New York, the chairman of the Middle East and South Asia Subcommittee,<br />
Mr. Ackerman, for what purpose do you seek recognition<br />
Mr. ACKERMAN. I was hoping not to go first, but I guess the alphabet<br />
will have its way. I move to strike the last word, Mr. Chairman.<br />
Chairman BERMAN. The gentleman is recognized for 5 minutes.<br />
Mr. ACKERMAN. Mr. Chairman, this is not one of those issues<br />
that Members of Congress look forward to voting on. I think it<br />
makes us a little bit uncomfortable. It is not as easy for most of<br />
us to just put out a sign that says yes or no without the kind of<br />
emotional involvement that so many of our fellow citizens have because<br />
of their mother country from which they or their parents or<br />
ancestors might have come from.<br />
There is an argument to be made, and you have cited most of<br />
them, Mr. Chairman, that have been already before us and we<br />
have already considered. Turkey is an important, strong, necessary<br />
ally of the United States in so many efforts and so many ways. The<br />
role that they play in the Middle East as an intermediary, the geographic<br />
place which they occupy being so important to the world<br />
scene and their attitude toward democracy being the democracy<br />
that we point to that says democracy can work in Islamic countries.<br />
All of these are of great importance to us.<br />
And then there is the argument of forgive and forget. Why don’t<br />
we just ignore what so many have called to our attention, just let<br />
it go by the boards and not address it at all But overriding all that<br />
I think, Mr. Chairman, is the issue of justice and the issue of history<br />
and the issue of the historic record.<br />
It is like telling victims of a crime well, it happened already. Forget<br />
it. It is what kept rape victims quiet for so many years. It is<br />
what kept Holocaust survivors quiet for 40 years. You know, when<br />
you think about it, it was 40 years before Holocaust victims ever<br />
spoke up about the atrocities they experienced during the Holocaust.<br />
Forgive and forget. It is easy to say, I suppose, if you are not the<br />
one or party to the one who has been damaged or hurt. You cannot<br />
forgive someone who hurt somebody else, and neither can you erase<br />
the problem from your memory. If you forget an injustice then it<br />
doesn’t occur. If you forget something that was wrong, you will no<br />
longer be able to tell right from wrong because wrong then goes<br />
away.<br />
I have given this a lot of thought and thought about it in personal<br />
terms, especially because we have those who still are around<br />
on this planet who say that the Holocaust involving the Jews committed<br />
by the Nazis did not occur. We hear it every day from the<br />
rantings of a mad man in Iran. Some people laugh at it, some people<br />
are confused by it and some people are inspired by it, and some<br />
people say oh, it is only words, and so many others say if you don’t<br />
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