Newsletter 35 - October 2003
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Minari Owners Register<br />
News Le er Number <strong>35</strong><br />
Thought provoking thought<br />
“If you are sufficiently irascible,<br />
God might just decide to wait.”<br />
Godfrey Just<br />
<strong>October</strong> <strong>2003</strong><br />
New Members for this N.L.<br />
KJ from Telford OTR No 93<br />
CS from Sherwood OTR No 94<br />
SW from Bristol OTR No 95<br />
Wow! do you see that 3 new members this me,<br />
they are, KJ who now controls the car his brother built,<br />
how convenient for that “How the hell was that bit<br />
fied” queson.<br />
CS. has bought the Yellow one which was James<br />
Campbell’s pride and joy. Finally SW. has bought what<br />
must be the bargain of the year, Stuart McD’s car, the<br />
one which was built by our Chairman, Julian C.<br />
Oh! for the foresight of hindsight<br />
Musings 2<br />
Goodwood Revival 11<br />
French trip 13<br />
Minari internaonal 16<br />
Flying South 19<br />
Shut that Door 22<br />
Murphys law revisited 23<br />
Sco/sh Scribe 24<br />
Children 25<br />
Big bike 26<br />
STOP 26<br />
Help lines/contacts 27<br />
Welcome to all three of you, may you have a long and enjoyable ownership of these well<br />
known cars.<br />
Keith W. has succeeded in ge/ng his mother (SW) to buy the car just so he can see how it<br />
was built, so he can finish his own, at last. Nice move Keith. Never took you for such a<br />
devious swine. Though I’m sure Fran, (and mum Sue) would have told me so if I had<br />
asked.<br />
A warning. I needed a<br />
replacement part for my car<br />
which had come from the<br />
body of the donor car,<br />
and the local Alfa dealer<br />
wanted the chassis<br />
number. Their computer<br />
couldn’t cope without it.<br />
See next NL for details.<br />
Your HELP needed.<br />
To help fill those long winter evenings (and these<br />
pages), please send me a résumé of what you did<br />
with your car this summer. Either building,<br />
rebuilding, or driving. Let me know where you<br />
went and how good or bad it was, and where you<br />
wished you had gone but didn’t. I will then let the<br />
rest of the civilised (Minari) world know.<br />
Thanks Dave<br />
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Dave,<br />
As I have recently become the proud owner of a Minari I am very<br />
interested in joining the register-owners club.<br />
I have actaully purchased the vehicle off my brother Andy Jackman<br />
and I believe he was a member, so you should have the vehicle<br />
details, though I don't believe he will have told you that he was<br />
running it on 3 cylinders!<br />
I look forward to receiving details from you and meeting other<br />
members and cars in the future, and i'll share the rest of the 3<br />
cylinder saga with you.<br />
Kev Jackman<br />
Kev<br />
Welcome to the delights of Minari ownership. I hope you have a long and<br />
enjoyable ownership. You are lucky as you have ready access to the cars<br />
builder. He might be willing to help you with anything he has done and you<br />
need to get at.<br />
I have attached an application form for you. You will see that the<br />
membership isn't a bank busting amount.<br />
I'm afraid you have missed out on 2 events 1) Stoneleigh. 2) the BBQ at my<br />
home yesterday. If only we knew!<br />
However there’s a number of other gatherings where there will/should/<br />
might be a Minari presence.<br />
I look forward to the details of the only 3 cylinder Minari. It isn't a diesel is<br />
it, Alfa did produce a 3 cylinder turbo diesel for the 33.<br />
Dave<br />
Kev<br />
Welcome to Minari Register membership. I have received your application<br />
form and cheque. Before I process it I have one question for you.<br />
When a member joins during the membership year, I will send the back<br />
issues of the newsletter and treat them as if having joined at the beginning<br />
of the membership year (February). If someone joins in September I will<br />
treat them differently. I will send the next NewsLetter and show them as<br />
being paid up to the following February, (a period of about 15 months)<br />
What would you prefer, Membership to run out at the end of this year and<br />
receive the back issues of this years NLs, or at the end of 2004, and start<br />
receiving your NLs at the end of September/beginning of November<br />
Dave<br />
Dave,<br />
Thanks for your reply. I am quite happy to go with the immediate<br />
membership to receive this years previous newsletters.<br />
I've done nearly 300 miles in the car now. I have started the<br />
installation of the hardtop in the last week. Is there a 'Guru' who<br />
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could give me any advice for this task I've got some of my own ideas, they may<br />
have been tried, tested and rejected already of course! The manual seems to dry<br />
up just after the 'A' post seal instructions. I am considering using a removableinterchangeable<br />
A post seal. With the hardtop installed the window seal would<br />
carry on to the bottom of the A post and hardtop off the Minari A post style seal<br />
would be clipped on.<br />
I was reading an old back issue of the newsletter that my brother sent me<br />
regarding demist air, I remember spending some time when helping to build the<br />
car with him on shoehorning the original alfa 33 heater assembly in. It hasn't seen<br />
full on bad weather with the hardtop on yet but the airflow through the original alfa<br />
diffuser/screen vent seems very substantial on full blast. Perhaps i'll have to be<br />
careful how well I seal the hardtop or i'll have a pressurised cabin!<br />
As promised photo's of goings on related to 3 cylinder Minari!<br />
Regards,<br />
Kev.<br />
Kev<br />
Thanks for the reply, Unfortunately my spam killer killed your message saying it contained<br />
a 4 letter word beginning with "f"and ending in"k". But I'm blowed if I can find it. I will post<br />
the NL's etc today.<br />
Thanks for the photos. Unfortunately I cant copy them to the NL. I can't even save them to<br />
then copy them. I don't know why.<br />
Dave<br />
Sorry forgot to answer your question.<br />
I don't have any experience of fitting the hard top, but I believe it is much easier if the hard<br />
top is fitted first and then the change made to soft top later. I think your car had a soft top<br />
fitted<br />
I have passed your e-mail on to one of our Guru's, John Anthistle. He may be able to help.<br />
John,<br />
Kev has bought his brother, Andy's car, and has just joined us. Can you help please<br />
Dave<br />
NB Kev resent the pictures. I’ve tried to indicate the ‘track’ lines.<br />
DAS<br />
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The pictures on the previous page<br />
show the plug lead cap which had<br />
caused the loss of ignition on one<br />
cylinder.<br />
The one on this page shows the<br />
exhaust manifold hidden behind the<br />
anti-roll bar (I assume). The nearer<br />
down pipe is still in its new / painted<br />
condition indicating that the<br />
associated cylinder has never ‘run’<br />
since the manifold was last fitted.<br />
DAS<br />
E-mail 3/8/03<br />
Dear David,<br />
I read with relish the last N/L.<br />
Regarding brake balance valves, I would strongly advise against using the Alfa Romeo one<br />
on a Minari even in the miraculous event that the Alfa Valve is still working!!!!! In the<br />
early days of 'Suds it was common for said valve to seize up after only half a German<br />
winter.<br />
Reasons are:-<br />
1. Minari ride height is not the same as the original cars, whatever spring and damper<br />
combination is used, therefore existing linkage must be redesigned.<br />
2. Even standard road springs behave much more stiffly in a Minari than an Alfa so the<br />
Alfa design feature of variability with rear loading and ride height is much less needed and<br />
much less value. If uprated springs and dampers are used the amount of height change is<br />
even less.<br />
3. Rear braking effort varies with actual detail car build, brake pads fitted, wheels and tyres<br />
and indeed spring/damper to road interface fidelity so should be set up for each car.<br />
4. Minari weight distribution is different from '33s or 'Suds as well as differing for different<br />
engine combinations in a Minari too.<br />
5. Forward weight transfer under heavy braking is a little less on a Minari since the centre<br />
of gravity and front overhang mass is lower on a Minari than on a 33 or 'Sud.<br />
The Aldon Mini valves or the Merlin Motorsport valves used by Minari, in either ones or<br />
twos depending on the actual brake system layout, work well and can be adjusted for<br />
particular circumstances when you know what you are about. Demon Tweeks valves also<br />
work well but are more costly. I also believe Le Mans Motor Sport and Bob Gren<br />
developments can supply suitable valves too.<br />
The SVA guys do demand that the balancers are fixed any way. They are prepared to<br />
accept drilled wing nuts or adjuster bolt heads secured with lock wire and a lead seal.<br />
"Lead Seal" I hear you cry. Surely this is not "Circus Metallica" No, lead seals are a<br />
doddle- pass the locking wire into the wire cutting pocket of a largish pair of pliers with the<br />
cavity uppermost. Then pour in molten lead until the cavity is filled around the locking<br />
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wire, allow to cool. Lead can be plumber's solder, electrical solder, or best of all old<br />
Church roof.<br />
SVA then gets even more impressed if you find a few letter punches and stamp a code or<br />
your initials on the seal, as I did on the Delfino prototype.<br />
If you talk to your MOT station nicely, they will let you set up the brake balance valves on<br />
their rolling road by the book.<br />
On pre SVA motors, adjusting the Brake Balance Valve is easy and oit can pay dividends<br />
since on a dry track day one can screw more braking out of the rear axle than would be<br />
ideal on a wet B road.<br />
Just for the record the pliers lead casting technique was developed by me and other<br />
colleagues when we were about 9 for high performance catapult shot.<br />
Best Regards<br />
John P.<br />
John thanks for that. I have forwarded it to Steve, he who posed the original question. I<br />
have also sent it to Keith W. who is at about the same stage with his brakes.<br />
The lead seal is ingenious. But wouldn’t a lead seal sink Sorry, it reminded me of a<br />
mechanical seal as used in fire pumps in my youth. Pictured as a Grey Seal with a key<br />
sticking out of its back!!! Sad I know but my initials backwards are…...<br />
Dave<br />
******************************<br />
E-mail 29/7/03<br />
Hi Dave,<br />
I recently bought James Campbell’s Minari and would like to join the club. I know<br />
James was going to try & transfer his membership, however, I know it costs money<br />
to run a club and therefore I’m willing to pay for a new membership.<br />
I would appreciate a fast reply since my insurers want proof of my membership (by<br />
this Saturday). If you could email me the details, it would be very much<br />
appreciated. Thanks.<br />
Charlie.<br />
Charles<br />
When a member joins during the membership year, I will send the back issues of<br />
the newsletter and treat them as if having joined at the beginning of the<br />
membership year (February). However, if someone joins in September I will treat<br />
them differently. I will send the next NewsLetter and show them as being paid up<br />
to the following February, (a period of about 15 months) A membership card will be<br />
issued showing membership for the current year, and then a new one will be<br />
issued at the start of the next membership year.<br />
What would you prefer, Membership to run out at the end of this year and receive<br />
the back issues of this years NLs, or at the end of 2004, and start receiving your<br />
NLs at the end of September/beginning of November<br />
Dave<br />
Thanks for replying. I’ve filled in the application form and will post it tomorrow with<br />
a cheque for £10. I would prefer to receive the back issues of this years<br />
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newsletters and for my membership to run out at the end of the year.<br />
Thanks.<br />
30/7/03<br />
OK<br />
Will run them off tonight ready for the application form etc.<br />
Dave<br />
1/8/03<br />
Charles<br />
Your application received this morning. At the first opportunity I will go to the post office<br />
and get your stuff off to you. There will be a membership card for the benefit of the<br />
insurers. Have you tried Hill House Hammond Specialist vehicle unit in Peterborough<br />
01733 310899. They are the people I use at the moment.<br />
Dave<br />
4/8/03<br />
Wow, that was quick! I received the membership pack early Saturday morning.<br />
The newsletters contain some good advice – I really need to know more about the<br />
“Water catcher at the base of the screen” in NL31, pg12 as I get water in the<br />
passenger footwell when it rains!<br />
More urgently though, I require a new thermostat (1983 Alfa 33 1.5 twin carb). I<br />
removed the housing to find the thermostat was well & truly held in by “peened”<br />
over edges. Where is the best place to source one from (main dealer). Thanks.<br />
Charlie.<br />
4/8/03<br />
Charles.<br />
Glad you got the information. I, and a number of other members want details of the water<br />
catcher, but it appears that this was something the builder of that particular car had made<br />
himself. Unfortunately the builder died suddenly about a year ago, aged 39!<br />
With regard to the water in the footwell, do you know the route taken by the water, as there<br />
is a drain hole under the heater box in the battery tray area, if this hole gets blocked by<br />
leaves, sweetie wrappers or small boys, the water builds up and finds its way into the foot<br />
well. I will try to find a series of articles done by the former build agents for the factory, in<br />
these the problems of water ingress is addressed. (NB Found and forwarded.)<br />
The actual thermostat on VERY early Suds were replaceable. The rest are non replaceable.<br />
To change the thermostat one has to change the whole thermostat housing. I can<br />
recommend Alfashop for a number of your requirements. Their web site,<br />
www.alfashop.co.uk doesn't show the thermostat, but I don't think the web site list is<br />
comprehensive. Best bet is to phone them. 01603 426277<br />
Avoid Main Dealers unless you want to pay their prices, having said that prices were<br />
recently reduced across the range.<br />
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Enjoy your Minari<br />
Dave<br />
P.S. you will have seen that I 'publish' just about every letter and e-mail I receive, unless it<br />
is marked not for publication or some thing similar. So this is going straight in the next NL.<br />
D.<br />
Sorry I didn't<br />
make the AGM<br />
with the wedding<br />
impending It<br />
slipped my mind!!<br />
A wanted add, for the 156 if anyone knows of any Zender challenge 17" wheels going<br />
spare for the Alfa 156 I would be interested even if its only an odd one. As they don't make<br />
them any more and I've just had to have two welded up because of cracks in the rim! Nasty<br />
stuff!<br />
The minari is still progressing at a snail's pace but I do hope to get it higher up the priority<br />
list (have to consult better<br />
half!) I keep doing odd bits<br />
in the workshop at work.<br />
All the best to you and<br />
family and fellow<br />
minari'sts!!<br />
Regards<br />
Adrian<br />
P.S. hope you like the pic!<br />
<br />
I thought the grass referred<br />
to something the guests had<br />
to smoke!<br />
Have I been with certain<br />
members too much<br />
What a lovely picture.<br />
Congratulations to both of you.<br />
Poor long suffering Alex has had to wait for the house to be (re)built, the drive and garage<br />
to be built, and the Minari safely installed, before they could wed.<br />
Please don’t wield the thumb too heavily Alex, let him do some work on the Minari.<br />
It has been waiting a long time too.<br />
DAS<br />
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Hi Dave,<br />
The pictures of the carb gaskets in the last newsletter raises an interesting point. In<br />
the first photo, the right hand one is a carb to air filter seal as you rightly conclude.<br />
In the other picture both parts are Weber IDF float chamber gaskets. The left one<br />
is for an Alfa spec carb and the other is for an aftermarket standard IDF. The<br />
location of the idle jets is different.<br />
If you contact Webcon, they will sell you a standard model. To get the Alfa special I<br />
think you have to go through an Alfa dealer. Be carefull when getting parts as there<br />
are other differences.<br />
On another matter, I am interested in the Castle Combe action day as mentioned<br />
by John H. Can you let me have his contact details so I can discuss<br />
arrangements Will you be going<br />
Bye for now,<br />
Mark.<br />
Mark<br />
Thanks for the info on the carbs. Lets hope I never have to do it again.<br />
I haven't tried the carbs I bought at National Alfa day. One day when I am bored I might<br />
try them. But I will have to do a refurb job on them first! (And start all over again)<br />
I have sent an e-mail to John H. with your details and have asked him to contact you.<br />
I won't be going as it is too close to coming home from next holiday.<br />
Hope you enjoy yourselves. and come away unscathed.<br />
Dave<br />
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Dear Dave,<br />
E-mail 31.8.03<br />
It was good to see you at the Alfa day at Gaydon – what did you think of the new venue I<br />
was a little disappointed; it lacked the charm of Stanford Hall by the river. I guess working<br />
at Land Rover next door doesn’t make it the best place for me to visit at weekends!<br />
Regarding the build of my car I have once again made little progress this summer. I have<br />
come to the conclusion that I simply have too many commitments and other interests to be<br />
able to significantly progress the build and I cannot realistically see this situation changing<br />
in the near future. Consequently, the kit is available for sale to anyone who would like to<br />
take it on although I will continue to work on it as and when time permits. I know you and<br />
the factory get the occasional enquiry from people seeking kits and I would be grateful if<br />
you would pass the details contained here on to any potential buyers. I’m sure you will<br />
want to publish this note in the next newsletter also. My car is Alfasud based, it has a<br />
lightened and balanced 1.5 litre engine (by Autosprint) and many new and renovated parts<br />
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eady to fit, all of the dirty work is done. All the unique Minari parts are available with the<br />
exception of hard or soft top. I can of course provide a full breakdown of parts required<br />
and work still to do – there is a lot - to any interested parties.<br />
On another subject I recently spent some time searching old newsletters for some articles<br />
on wheel and tyre sizes for Minaris – I found them eventually and it struck me that there<br />
must be a better way of searching for that essential build tip, contact number etc. that you<br />
know you’ve seen somewhere sometime. An index to newsletters would be ideal but<br />
putting this together for several years worth of newsletters would be a soul destroying task<br />
you wouldn’t wish on your worst enemy. Now, since the letters exist in electronic format<br />
it may be possible to search for what you want using the software – I guess you use Word<br />
format The obvious next step is, why not issue the newsletters electronically to those that<br />
have e-mail – this may be the majority of members. Have you considered this It would of<br />
course save time and the cost of postage and printing and the members would have the<br />
facility to search the text and save good quality pictures also.<br />
Lastly a recommendation to all members, go and see a Minari RSR on the race track if you<br />
haven’t already had the pleasure. We went to Donington last year and saw 2 Minaris<br />
perform very well in the Auto Italia race – they are most impressive to watch down through<br />
Craner curves, well worth the effort.<br />
Best Regards,<br />
Tony Hughes<br />
Contact: telephone 0121 704 2114 or e-mail tony.hughes@tesco.net<br />
N.B. Tony only wants £2500 for his ‘kit’ DAS.<br />
Tony<br />
I am sorry to have received this e-mail. However I can understand why. I have put it in the<br />
next NL already. I will put something on the web site for you too, if you wish.<br />
To answer your point about electronic NL for those with the facility. I have considered this<br />
but a couple of problems exist, not least that I don't use word for the NL, but Microsoft<br />
Publisher. It is possible to send Publisher documents but it is time consuming (and I<br />
haven't really got to grips with it yet) also there are times when a members e-mail address<br />
doesn't work for obscure reasons.<br />
When doing a group message I sometimes get a message back to say one of the recipients<br />
hasn't received it, but it doesn't say who that person is!!!!<br />
I would therefore have to send the NL individually to be sure.<br />
As for the index idea, I have thought of that too, but the work involved is a bit daunting.<br />
Some thing for the winter perhaps.<br />
Not sure how I feel about Gaydon as a venue, there appeared to be more space, and at<br />
least there wasn't goose sh*t everywhere! The one car I wanted to see (Triumph<br />
Mayflower) wasn't there.<br />
I prefer the 'model' grouping of Stanford Hall, that way all Minaris could be together.<br />
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I missed the 'burger' stands of Stanford Hall too.<br />
Dave<br />
********************<br />
Dave,<br />
Just a quick note after reading the last newsletter. In musings there was a note<br />
about the repair of my Minari. The note mentioned that I should have contacted<br />
Kingswalk about the bumper. In my original mail I had forgotten to add that this<br />
was an insurance repair for a no fault claim (so I did not have to get my hands<br />
dirty). I wanted the car to be repaired by a reputable company, and knowing that<br />
Kingswalk would supply the spares only, I spoke to John Anthistle who did supply<br />
me with a price for the replacement bumper from Kingswalk. I had misunderstood<br />
DesignQ and apologise to the chaps at Kingswalk as they did an excellent job of<br />
the replacement bumper and a very quick turnaround on it (if only the insurance<br />
company had been quicker !). Thankfully the car seems to have made it through<br />
the wonderful summer we have just had without someone deciding to have a<br />
closer look at the rear !<br />
I think that I have finally resolved the starter motor problems after returning the<br />
starter motor twice to the local suppliers, as it had developed the same problem on<br />
both replacements. The problem turned out to be a sticking solenoid. I stripped the<br />
solenoid and the problem was with the plunger getting "gundged" up. After<br />
cleaning this the car now starts every time (so far).<br />
I don't know if anyone out there is looking for seats for their Minari, but I have a<br />
pair of Corbeau seats that I originally had fitted to my car. I had the seats replaced<br />
because of a couple of small "nicks" on the right hand side of the seat. They are<br />
black vinyl and would probably need to be recovered. There are no runners as<br />
these were fitted to my replacement Corbeau seats. If anyone is interested in them<br />
then they can either collect them or pay the courier costs. It would be such a sad<br />
end to see them thrown down the tip when someone could probably use them.<br />
Oh well must get on and I have attached a photo of an alternative form of transport<br />
for the people who have yet to complete their cars.<br />
Keep up the good work and should anyone be interested in the seats then pass my<br />
mobile number onto them.<br />
Keith S.<br />
Keith<br />
Thanks for that, it is in the next NL already, as is the picture. Silly sod. (see next page). But<br />
is this a taste of the Major of London's next scheme to get all private vehicles off the<br />
roads<br />
I am glad your baby is behaving now and starting every time, lets hope this isn't the kiss of<br />
death!.<br />
Dave<br />
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I went to Tredegar<br />
House, Newport, Gwent,<br />
on 20/21st September,<br />
for the final Vintage and<br />
Specialist Rally. I<br />
haven’t the me or the<br />
space in this NL to<br />
include a report and<br />
pictures, but will do so<br />
Goodwood Revival.<br />
As most of you may know I have planned to go to the Goodwood Revival meeng for<br />
some me, since John A had done his first report for us some me ago.<br />
I have finally done it, and once again an event ‘organised’ by John was blesses with good<br />
weather. I was told off when I got home as I had a rosy glow to my nose and cheeks.<br />
I leE home at about 0600, I wanted to avoid the M25 early Friday car park. When I<br />
started the journey the weather didn’t look too promising, well I couldn’t see the weather<br />
for thick fog. Yes thick FOG. However I made reasonable me and eventually arrived at<br />
the car parking fields exactly 85 miles and 2 and a quarter hours later. At that me there<br />
were only a few hardy fools there before me and so I parked (the Alfa) at the front of my<br />
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chosen field. Ticket bought, and walk straight in. The advantages of an early arrival. I had<br />
planned to meet a number of other members there so didn’t wander too far from the<br />
main entrance. But then I heard an awful racket. Some wonderfully unsilenced racing<br />
engines were being warmed up prior to the first unmed pracce. I found a nice place to<br />
watch the proceedings, at the end of a straight and just before the chicane on the main<br />
straight. The sounds of these old engines was magnificant, and to see the cars sideways<br />
on as the drivers driEing the cars, was truly worth the effort of ge/ng there so early.<br />
What struck me was that the drivers really meant it. They were throwing perhaps £‘lots<br />
and lots’ around as they were designed to be thrown.<br />
Whilst I was watching this exhibion, John A phoned to say he was there and where was I.<br />
We managed to find each other, though John tried to avoid me by not seeing me, it must<br />
be the lack of glasses as I now have contact lenses, and I wasn’t wearing my customary<br />
Minari Cap!<br />
We looked round the paddock and I was given a lesson on older racing cars by John. He is<br />
an encyclopaedia. We had a look at the bikes of my youth, Manx Nortons, Matchless,<br />
Paon (I had forgoen about them), Gilera, Velocees, Triumphs. Oh wow! I gave him a<br />
lesson on old bikes. I looked for familiar faces but didn’t see any. I was most<br />
disappointed to not see the bikes pracce at that me but thought I would be able to see<br />
them later. So the disappointment wasn’t too great. We met up with John H, who had<br />
come in his Minari and put me to shame, and later Ron and Eileen K. Also not in their<br />
Minari. But I had lousy weather when I leE home. (Any excuse!!!).<br />
As we were watching some producon saloon cars, one went past and made an awful<br />
scraping noise, which I overheard someone say was due to a wheel coming off. Whoops.<br />
But again the cars were being thrown about, and the engines being put to the test.<br />
AEer an early lunch (11.00) we watched a flying display by an old Russian piston engined<br />
plane.<br />
We found an alternave locaon at the end of the start / finish straight, to watch the<br />
producon sports cars, Astons, AC Cobras, Jags etc. It was good to see the drivers having<br />
to fight the cars, sawing at the wheel and tail out ancs, this is how racing should be, not<br />
the exhibion of technology and down force which passes for Formula 1 at the moment.<br />
Unfortunately my legs and feet were giving me a hard me, dodgy joints and thick socks<br />
in ght boots! I also got bored with the processional un-med pracce, I had forgoen<br />
the drivers were officially ‘learning’ the circuit. I wish I hadn’t forgoen, because I<br />
decided to leave early, and long before the bikes came out for their med pracce.<br />
At the me I said I wouldn’t be going again, but I’m not sure now.<br />
DAS.<br />
p.s. Sorry, didn’t take any pictures other than of a plane, or two.<br />
p.p.s. Interesngly the return journey was also exactly 85 miles.<br />
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Cee Une Voiture Ce Je Montė Moi Mem!<br />
(Not sure of the spelling, but “It’s a car which I mounted [built] my self“ DAS)<br />
Following our short inaugural foray in the Custard Tart (our yellow Mk1 Minari) to<br />
Normandy last summer, we decided to try a more extended tour this year; but with more<br />
planning. Well, we did a bit beer on the planning side – the ferry was booked two weeks<br />
before departure, and some of those lile jobs on the car that should have been done in<br />
the winter were aempted in a feverish rush the week before departure. Lunchme on a<br />
hot June day found us heading down the A3 again to Portsmouth for the Caen ferry<br />
packed with camping and other gear for two weeks. We seem to spend a lot of me on<br />
car ferries, but we agreed that this was the tops. The Briany Ferries boat was beauful,<br />
the food good and reclining seats could be had for no extra charge. As a bonus we leE and<br />
docked in Oistreham dead on me. The other punters were an unusual selecon; around<br />
80% caravans (mostly big) so we felt more than usually dwarfed in the CT.<br />
The plan was to head for the Auvergne, camping most of the me. Not wanng to repeat<br />
the mad midnight dash to a remote hotel (closed by the me we found it of course) which<br />
figured on last year’s trip, we booked a room through the ferry company. A good choice;<br />
five minutes aEer driving off the ferry we were booking in.<br />
Breakfast was spent plo/ng step two of the plan, a day on the Normandy D-Day beaches,<br />
followed by a meander south for the night’s camp. The “Grand Bunker” museum in<br />
Oistreham was fascinang and along with the American cemetery at Omaha beach<br />
brought home the size and commitment of both the defenders and invasion forces. The<br />
cool wind and low cloud added to the atmosphere. The aEernoon highlighted a feature of<br />
our trips to France. I wonder whether French signposng has really recovered from the<br />
war. Signs without road numbers, signs visible only when you’ve passed them; of course<br />
we got lost. Recovering our sense of direcon we finally got south of Caen without quite<br />
going via Briany.<br />
We found a campsite (no easy task in mid-June, it turned out) and ate freshly caught trout<br />
as the sun went down, and the evening chill rose. We had seen remarkably few brits<br />
during the day, surprising since it was the Monday aEer Le Mans weekend. Just a couple<br />
of MGFs and a series of pre-WW1 vintage autos which kept hurtling round corners<br />
towards us.<br />
The next day saw us past Le Mans and Tours via D roads, and evening camped on a farm<br />
on the northern edge of the Loire. The owner proudly showed us the facilies. Although<br />
looking prey rusc from the outside they were the cleanest and best equipped that we<br />
were to see for the whole fortnight. He then topped it by giving us a bag of freshly picked<br />
cherries. Then across the Loire and into warm weather at last, we approached the<br />
Auvergne via Chateauroux and Montlucon. Chateauroux got the award for the most<br />
unspeakable road surfaces of the trip, just one long collecon of potholes. I wondered<br />
whether the suspension would survive. Then we saw the jagged outline of the Auvergne<br />
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Sheltering from the midday sun!<br />
All this went into……….<br />
skyline, a rewarding moment aEer around 500 miles of driving.<br />
The D roads we had taken were generally good, but almost exclusively single carriageway,<br />
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…………this (look and be jealous Mk2 owners!)<br />
and with a fair bit of traffic. While the<br />
Minari has the poke even fully loaded<br />
(in kg rather than accessories) for<br />
pressing on in these condions, the<br />
poor visibility for overtaking when<br />
driving on the right ruled out fast<br />
progress without undue heroics.<br />
The search for our first campground in<br />
the Auvergne took an interesng turn.<br />
AEer following signs to a non-existent<br />
site we accosted a gent in the village<br />
square. He was soon joined by a<br />
charming white van man who asked<br />
what our car was. “une Alfa Romeo<br />
speciale” (don’t know the French for<br />
kit) I said (see #tle DAS).<br />
At this he hopped into his van with a<br />
“suivez moi au camping” and took off<br />
with mucho wheelspin. Shades of Le<br />
Mans. A hecc 15km along a twisty,<br />
undulang D road followed as we tried<br />
to keep him in sight. It was worth it,<br />
he took us right to the gate.<br />
By now temperatures were<br />
heading for the 40’s every day although nights were cool, so shade trees were an essenal<br />
feature for pitching the tent. To get a view of the area we drove to the top of the Puy de<br />
Dome (1465 metres). Quite a climb; I guess around two miles at a gradient of about 25%.<br />
Unfortunately the peak itself is rather spoilt by a large communicaons building and<br />
masts, but the views were stunning although the Alps and Mont Blanc were hiding in the<br />
haze.<br />
Our second center in the area was Murol, from where we explored the villages and<br />
byroads. Here we met a Dutch couple (ex ballroom dancing champions!) who were<br />
motorcycle camping. In five days they had toured the Cevennes and further south and<br />
were planning to make Roerdam nonstop the next day. It made us look a bit feeble. Our<br />
week in the Auvergne concluded with a night of tremendous thunderstorms and<br />
torrenal rain. We were snug in the tent, but the morning sun found me bailing out the<br />
lowest point of the Minari’s boot. The drainage channel had surrendered at some stage<br />
and overflowed into the boot on one side. Water flows to the lowest point, in this case<br />
the box secon that the offside rear Was linkage bolts into. Guess what No drainhole! I<br />
managed to suck most of it (about a litre) out with a drinks bole. The rest had to wait<br />
unl we got home. The hood held out though.<br />
Bailing completed we packed up and regreWully leE the Auvergne, hi/ng the autoroute at<br />
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Clermont Ferrand for the dash to Orleans (toll 22 euros). As soon as we leE the autoroute<br />
we were totally lost, but navigang by the sun (if it's behind you you're going north) we<br />
managed to get on the map again. A couple of days in Sees (lovely old cathedral town)<br />
found us in the company of brits again; we had only met one English couple since leaving<br />
the hotel on our first morning.<br />
Then back to the ferry (on me again) for Portsmouth. We drove off (with crate of wine)<br />
at 9pm into a downpour (hood down of course), and had to resort to a few miles of fast<br />
driving to keep out the worst of it before we could erect the shelter (first me in 2 weeks)<br />
to connue home in the dry. Fourteen hundred miles door to door.<br />
Overall impressions The Auvergne is certainly worth a visit for the scenery food and<br />
villages. Open air driving can be hot work at such high temperatures, and it was<br />
interesng that it was all ntops (presumably with a/c) south of Normandy. But you can’t<br />
beat fresh air motoring in our opinion. Our bums were a bit sore at the end of it; those<br />
potholes aren’t soaked up too well parcularly when heavily loaded. Fluid consumpon:<br />
oil, none detectable; coolant, none detectable; petrol, around 37mpg; wine, many litres.<br />
No overheang despite hot weather, steep gradients and heavy load (the CT packs a<br />
Fiesta rad). Not a spanner or screwdriver was wielded during the fortnight. A memorable<br />
trip.<br />
John Hammond.<br />
John, thanks for the ar#cle, and the photos. That is the way to treat a Minari, take it for a<br />
long, well loaded and enjoyable trip on rela#vely traffic free roads. Great fun. I am<br />
Dear Peter,<br />
MORE ON MINARI<br />
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Letter to Which Kit<br />
From Minari-International<br />
Further to your Which,What, When article in August edition of Which-Kit I am glad to be<br />
able to inform your readers that Minari is not dead but only hibernating, albeit for a little<br />
longer that we had first hoped!!<br />
Minari International Limited acquired the residual tooling and design rights from the<br />
liquidator of Minari Engineering Limited early in 2000 . The Minari name was<br />
subsequently registered as a trademark with the full agreement of Minardi Formula One<br />
team.<br />
Unfortunately, the liquidator did not have possession of the production tooling for the Road<br />
Sport and RSR models which meant we had to work with pre-production tooling that had<br />
been originally been used for the Minari Mk1. It has proved quite difficult to recreate a<br />
satisfactory full roadgoing model like the Road Sport from this early tooling. We have
therefore decided to concentrate on producing a track day sports racing model that has the<br />
potential to be SVA compliant, the car will still utilise Alfa Romeo 33 running gear, engine<br />
and transmission, but the less attractive features of the Alfa donor e.g eccentric wiring will<br />
be phased out!<br />
Steve Greenwood (Quantum Extreme Chassis designer) has designed a new fabricated<br />
front subframe which will provide an adjustable front suspension still using the Alfa struts<br />
with coilover racing springs, and we are developing a revised rear suspension set up still<br />
based on the Alfa components but uitilising a stiff fabricated steel structure to provide<br />
improved location for rollover bars/race cages and safety harnesses. This should simplify<br />
the process of satisfying race circuit scrutineers and SVA inspectors who seem less familar<br />
with GRP monocoque structures and like to see some cold steel!<br />
Last year Richard Ashby penned a radical makeover to the car's front end and currently that<br />
is being tweaked to be less vulnerable to trackside kerbs and sleeping policemen. Although<br />
a prototype featuring full depth doors was developed the move away from full roadgoing<br />
design has meant that we will probably despense with doors and bond in the half height<br />
door mouldings to produce a central monocoque tub very similar the MInari RSR race cars<br />
that are still competing successfully in the Auto-Italia race series.<br />
Richard Ashby has also designed an attractive once piece dashboard with centralised<br />
instruments to enable both right and left hand drive versions to be manufactured.<br />
Hopefully, a revised fully adjustable pedal box and longer steering column will result in a<br />
more conventional sports racing driving position that larger guys like myself will be feel<br />
more comfortable with, a half screen will complete the package thus dispensing with the<br />
need for heater and wipers.<br />
When will all this be finished<br />
Well our company has relocated to North Cambridgeshire quite close to Jim Dudley's Tiger<br />
Cars and our main activitities continue to be in IT and Technology Consultancy so Minari-<br />
Racing, as the project is now designated, is not our highest priority. We are currently in<br />
discussions with a potential European based partner as the popularirty of Alfa 33 in the<br />
Benelux region could develop an attractive market for the kit.<br />
We also have an agreement with Mettisse cars that production cars/kits could be<br />
manufactured in S.Wales once we have sorted out the final specifcations and I really hope<br />
that by the end of this year we will have the first pre-production car running. We have<br />
donated a prototype kit to Brooklands College so hopefully when term time returns the<br />
college will make progress with getting their own Minari running in 2004.<br />
A new website is planned by end of August the domain name is:-<br />
www.minari-racing.co.uk<br />
My contact details are:-<br />
Michael Anthony<br />
Minari-Racing<br />
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Minari International Limited<br />
E-Space North<br />
Littleport, Ely<br />
Cambridgeshire CB6 1RA<br />
Tel: 01<strong>35</strong>3 865360<br />
Fax: 01<strong>35</strong>3 865361<br />
mobile: 07990 5<strong>35</strong>170<br />
e-mail: minariracing@aol.com<br />
I have attached a photograph of Richard Ashby's front end makeover, the car had a full<br />
cage fitted because it has full depth doors and modified sills, however, we favour a simpler<br />
more elegant racing rollover bar similar to those used in the RSR with the full race<br />
monocoque which is immensely strong.<br />
Hope this information provides some hope for those Alfa fans looking to breath life into<br />
their rusting 33s, Sprints and Suds!!<br />
Kind regards,<br />
Mike Anthony<br />
Mike,<br />
Thanks for including me in the loop. I have of course put it straight in the next NewsLetter.<br />
I wish you well with the project, and eagerly await developments.<br />
Dave<br />
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Heading South for the ‘winter’<br />
plus<br />
Minari BBQ<br />
At last Chriss and I can draw breath and I can get on the comptometer and<br />
communicate with your good self! The Yellow Beastie is now safely ensconced<br />
not so far oop North in Cumbria having covered a not inconsiderable number of<br />
miles in a circuitous route to get there – a few rests were taken on the way!<br />
I said a fond farewell to RAF Kinloss on 4 July and YB departed the distant<br />
north the following day. A very pleasant topless drive through the scenic<br />
countryside of Scotland the following morning ended in the Trossachs, for a night<br />
stop at the Crieff Hydro. The onward journey continued southerly the next day.<br />
Still topless, the trip was nowhere near as pleasant, as it was mostly motorways –<br />
not the natural home of the Minari! The YB then recovered in Cumbria for a<br />
couple of weeks while Chriss and I returned to Crieff for a further two nights with<br />
the ‘nasty team’ from the Elgin branch of BPW (Business and Professional<br />
Women) – a national organisation that promotes the interests of women or, if<br />
you’re in the Elgin branch, promotes the profits of brewers/distillers various. We<br />
had an excellent weekend with the team before heading back North for the move.<br />
Those of our membership who have moved after a long stay (15 years) in one<br />
home will know what we faced. I can quite believe that moving is as traumatic as<br />
divorce if not more so! Eventually the removers finished packing at 1430 on 14<br />
Jul. We had lunch with our nextdoor neighbours, wished them a fond adieu and<br />
departed South, Chriss in the black YB, as seen at Stoneleigh, myself in the trusty<br />
Rover. All these cars make for a logistical nightmare!<br />
The next day the YB and black YB (hope you’re following this Dave) departed<br />
for a night stop in an Oxfordshire farmhouse B&B. The route we took was along<br />
the A66 to Scotch Corner then down the A1/A1(M). It was whilst we were both<br />
progressing topless along this part of the Queen’s highway (robbery) that I<br />
noticed a particularly nice red Italian motor car approaching from the rear (where<br />
else). It was a 360 Modena Spider, also topless. The driver drove passed the black<br />
YB at a fair rate of knots (RAF speak for quite fast) and slowed down abeam<br />
(Navy speak for alongside) the YB. Now I might be wrong but, I don’t think he<br />
knew what the YB was and probably still doesn’t despite ‘hanging around’ for<br />
about 15 miles. At one stage black YB and YB created a Ferrari sandwich. With a<br />
registration number of L 1 NKS, Chriss seems to think that the driver, who gave a<br />
casual wave on first ‘meeting’, might have something to do with golf. Don’t see it<br />
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Minari BBQ. Front ‘garden’ complete with 3 Minarii. Stood on pavement are<br />
l to r, Phil hidden behind Jusn and Vicky, discussing the Register banner across<br />
the front bedroom windows.<br />
myself! Anyway, after this piece of excitement we carried on to our B&B.<br />
Wednesday started with a full English breakfast which gave us both physical and<br />
mental strength to complete our move from a croft in 3.5 acres to a 1960s prefab<br />
semi on an RAF married patch. The next 2 days were spent trying to organise the<br />
chaos to little or no avail. Saturday dawned with blue and sunny skies and Chriss<br />
and I departed for destinations further south, still topless. We had a very pleasant<br />
break at my brother’s in Caterham drinking coffee and eating sticky buns in the<br />
garden before travelling East and a bit North to Bexley.<br />
Here our esteemed secretary was holding a BBQ for the Minari Register. This<br />
event had been specifically requested by our NEW CHAIRMAN. Our arrival was<br />
communicated to Dave by Andrea saying ’You’ve got visitors in a yellow car, a<br />
very yellow car! But the chairman wasn’t there, and he only had to come over<br />
from Wales not the North of Scotland! Other Minaristi who were in attendance<br />
were Ron and Eileen, Vicky and Justin plus some teacher friends of the Smiths<br />
and neighbours. It was a Napoleon do (as in Bonaparte-bona party!) and many<br />
thanks to yourself Dave, and your Eileen for both putting us up for the night and<br />
putting up with us – much appreciated. I do believe that at some stage of the<br />
proceedings, Andrea was heard to refer to two old drunks. Surely not us Dave.<br />
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Following day, YB returned South and<br />
West along M25 to Croydon for lunch with<br />
elder daughter and her beau before<br />
returning to Brize Norton to gather breath<br />
before the following day’s push back up to<br />
Cumbria. All in all a smashing round trip<br />
during which the YB performed faultlessly<br />
bar an annoying touch point when turning<br />
right. This is still to be investigated and<br />
hopefully will not prove too problematic.<br />
We have since been back to Caterham for<br />
my niece’s 21 st to sample the M25 in all it’s<br />
glory! We had obviously been extremely<br />
lucky in the Minari as there had been no<br />
hold-up on the M25. This time though, revenge – 15 miles in 80 mins, delightful.<br />
On our return to Cumbria the M25 was fine, as were the rest of the roads. I’d<br />
never seen a Lamborghini Diablo on the road before but on that journey we saw<br />
two and very impressive they looked too. Come to think of it, I still haven’t seen<br />
our Chairman at a Minari BBQ – rarer than a Lamborghini then! Only jesting<br />
Julian, trust all is well.<br />
Well, must go - my meat and potato pie with mushy peas is being dished up.<br />
Thanks again Dave, maybe we can meet up at Donington.<br />
Phil.<br />
Not as impressive as the Le Mans wall<br />
in the last NL, but the best we could do<br />
in the circumstances.<br />
D.<br />
P.S.( from Chriss who is more interested in number plates than cars!) – the<br />
numbers on the Lamborghinis were “S007” and “L13MBO” with the 3 modified<br />
such that the 13 looked like an A – impressive what<br />
Diary <strong>2003</strong><br />
15, 16 Nov. The Great Western Kit Car Show - Exeter<br />
Wot Nuffink else<br />
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European Fast Car Show, 9th & 10th August.<br />
This was one show which I wanted to try, it was the first of what was proposed would be<br />
an annual event (I presume!).<br />
The 9th was a glorious day, so the drive of only about <strong>35</strong> miles was a real pleasure. The<br />
weather God was very good to the organiser.<br />
I was directed to the Kent Kit Car Club area (I am a member). It was early and there<br />
weren’t that many cars, kit or otherwise in site. I was forced to set my chair up and also<br />
the parasol I had taken. I am so pleased I took it too. ‘Our’ area was in good sight of the<br />
arena, so I expected a good day, with a good display in-front of me.<br />
I had even set aside both days, however. I only did the one day.<br />
The biggest display was either the KKCC area or the modified standard road cars. You<br />
know the sort of thing lowered and debadged Clio, Saxa, Corsa, BMW 3 series etc. They<br />
were all together and the main thing that brought them together was the Huge sound<br />
systems. The Beemer had to have his engine running to power the system<br />
Bored, I decided to leave quite early, and I wasn’t the only one. The car refused to start,<br />
the baery was flat. A bump start and I was away though.<br />
On checking the baery a couple of days later, I found that it was low on water, but as it<br />
was marked maintenance free, I assumed it wasn’t necessary to check it and top up. How<br />
wrong one can be. Topped up and leE on trickle charge for a while and all now appears<br />
OK.<br />
An old dining room chair,<br />
A block of wood,<br />
A jack and<br />
A bad back.<br />
What have the above got to do with the dropped drivers<br />
door on my minari<br />
Simple really. Read on and you will find out how.<br />
When I built the car the doors shut nicely, then I added glass, runners, electric winders and<br />
trim. This all weighs, and flexed the doors down. So the doors no longer shut nicely.<br />
Some time ago David R. adjusted the passangers door so that it shut nicely from 6 inches<br />
open. Just let the door go and it shut all on its own due to the good fit and the hinge spring.<br />
The drivers door however wouldn’t adjust, we improved it but it wasn‘t as good as the<br />
other one.<br />
Recently I decided to try to adjust the door alone. When the doors were adjusted before it<br />
was a two person operation. This time I was alone!<br />
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First loosen the top 3 nuts and bolts. So that the door could be eased up whilst pivoting on<br />
the bottom bolt. Door promptly dropped even further.<br />
How to set the door<br />
Gather the items mentioned at the beginning of this piece. With the door open the chair<br />
was placed under it. The jack was placed under the sill to prevent the springs compressing<br />
and causing the body to move as I clambered over and in the car.<br />
The door was about 3 inches clear of the chair. Hence the need for the piece of wood. The<br />
car could be raised or lowered to get the door hinges in the right position to make it shut in<br />
the desired way. I got it right on the second attempt.<br />
It now remains for me to explain the last item in the title. Well that was from trying to hold<br />
the bolt still on the outside of the car with a ring spanner, whilst leaning in to and under the<br />
dash with a socket and ratchet to do the thing up again.<br />
I set my self a full day to do the job. In the end it took about 30 minutes.<br />
Jobs expected to be quick have been known to take me hours.<br />
DAS<br />
Some Murphy’s laws for you!!!<br />
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.<br />
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.<br />
Logic is a systemac method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.<br />
An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less unl he knows absolutely<br />
everything about nothing.<br />
Tell a woman there are 300 billion stars in the universe and she'll believe you. Tell her a<br />
bench has wet paint on it and he'll have to sit on it to be sure.<br />
Some people manage by the book, even though they don't know who wrote the book or<br />
even what book.<br />
AEer all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done.<br />
The only perfect sight is hind-sight.<br />
When all else fails, read the instrucons.<br />
Anything when dropped will roll into the least accessible corner. ***<br />
Any aempt to print Murphy's laws will jam the printer.<br />
A memo is wrien not to inform the reader but to protect the writer.<br />
The vehicle in front of you is always travelling slower than you are.<br />
We’ve all probably fallen foul to most of these – not that we’d own up to it!!!!!!<br />
***Unless it’s bu/ered toast, when it will land bu/er side down.<br />
From Steve D<br />
Thanks DAS<br />
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A NEW CHEMICAL ELEMENT<br />
ADMINISTRATUM<br />
Administratum is probably the heaviest substance known to science.<br />
It has no protons or electrons, and thus has an atomic weight of zero. However, it does<br />
have one neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons and 111 assistant vice<br />
neutrons. This gives it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 parcles are held together in a<br />
nucleus by a force that involves the connuous exchange of parcles called morons.<br />
Since it has no electrons, Administratum is totally inert. However, it can be detected<br />
chemically, since it impedes every reacon it comes into contact with. A ny amount can<br />
cause a reacon to take over four days where the normal reacon me is one second.<br />
Administratum has a normal half-life of three years, at which me it does not decay, but<br />
instead undergoes a reorganisaon in which neutrons and assistant vice neutrons<br />
exchange places.<br />
Studies have shown the atomic mass usually increases aEer each reorganisaon.<br />
Sciensts point out that Administratum is known to be toxic at any level of concentraon,<br />
and can easily destroy any producve reacons where it is allowed to accumulate.<br />
At present there is no known andote, so exposure to Administratum should be avoided if<br />
at all possible.<br />
However, within the UK accidental contact is highly possible. Infecon is not usually<br />
detected unl a reacon has been seen – usually a red tape-like growth, quickly ge/ng<br />
under the skin.<br />
Following these inial signs, a number of other effects are likely to be experienced aEer a<br />
short me. These can include a sudden and unwelcome slowing down of all funcons, a<br />
probable rise in temperature (blood has been know to boil), feelings of impaence,<br />
irraonal thoughts, and a desire to go back a previous life.<br />
For those wishing to avoid the effects of Administratum, probably the best course of<br />
acon is to go off to a remote desert island, or beer sll, go off for a blast in your Minari.<br />
Don’t let the b****rs grind you down, folks!<br />
Purloined from the Telegraph and added to by Bruce.<br />
Thanks but it is too late I have been ground down.<br />
DAS<br />
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Children, they can be so perceptive.<br />
Question: HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHO TO MARRY<br />
You got to find somebody who likes the same stuff. Like, if you like sports, she should like<br />
it that you like sports, and she should keep the chips and dip coming. Alan, age 10<br />
No person really decides before they grow up who they're going to marry. God decides it<br />
all way before, and you get to find out later who you're stuck with. Kirsten, age 10<br />
Question: WHAT IS THE RIGHT AGE TO GET MARRIED<br />
Twenty-three is the best age because you know the person FOREVER by then. Camille,<br />
age 10<br />
No age is good to get married at. You got to be a fool to get married. Freddie, age 6 (Very<br />
wise for his age)<br />
Question: HOW CAN A STRANGER TELL IF TWO PEOPLE ARE MARRIED<br />
You might have to guess, based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids.<br />
Derrick, age 8<br />
Question: WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR MOM AND DAD HAVE IN COMMON<br />
Both don't want any more kids. Lori, age 8<br />
Question: WHAT DO MOST PEOPLE DO ON A DATE<br />
Dates are for having fun, and people should use them to get to know each other. Even boys<br />
have something to say if you listen long enough. Lynnette, age 8 (Isn't she a treasure)<br />
On the first date, they just tell each other lies and that usually gets them interested enough<br />
to go for a second date. Martin, age 10<br />
Question: WHAT WOULD YOU DO ON A FIRST DATE THAT WAS TURNING<br />
SOUR<br />
I'd run home and play dead. The next day I would call all the newspapers and make sure<br />
they wrote about me in all the dead columns. Craig, age 9<br />
Question: WHEN IS IT OKAY TO KISS SOMEONE<br />
When they're rich. Pam, age 7<br />
The law says you have to be eighteen, so I wouldn't want to mess with that. Curt, age 7<br />
The rule goes like this: If you kiss someone, then you should marry them and have kids<br />
with them. It's the right thing to do. Howard, age 8<br />
Question: IS IT BETTER TO BE SINGLE OR MARRIED<br />
I don't know which is better, but I'll tell you one thing. I'm never going to have s*x with my<br />
wife. I don't want to be all grossed out. Theodore, age 8<br />
It's better for girls to be single but not for boys. Boys need someone to clean up after them.<br />
Anita, age 9 (Bless you child)<br />
Question: HOW WOULD THE WORLD BE DIFFERENT IF PEOPLE DIDN'T GET<br />
MARRIED<br />
(Con#nued on page 26)<br />
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We think we are good for building or running a kit car, the bike above was built<br />
by a nuer in New Zealand and is a 48 cylinder 2 stroke based on many many<br />
250 Kawasaki engines. I bet there is a dire lack of these in local breakers yards.<br />
(Con#nued from page 25)<br />
There wouldn't be a lot of kids to explain anything, would there Kelvin, age 8<br />
"And the #1 Favourite is........"<br />
HOW WOULD YOU MAKE A MARRIAGE WORK<br />
Tell your wife that she looks pretty even if she looks like a truck. Ricky, age 10 (WHAT A<br />
MAN)<br />
Educaon is a wonderful<br />
thing.<br />
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Contacts/Helplines<br />
Members who have volunteered to act as local contacts and to help others. So<br />
please be considerate, treat them gently, but don’t struggle alone. The ‘answer’<br />
may be just a phone call away! (So phone, then pop round for a look or a cupper!)<br />
Make use of them, they volunteered so you could.<br />
____________________<br />
David Rutherford Jim Finney John Anthistle Bruce Marshall<br />
102 Lady Byron Lane 56 Sycamore Drive Woodpeckers 5 Braefoot Grove<br />
Knowle WYTHALL 73 Shepherds Way DALGETY BAY<br />
Solihull B47 5QX Liphook, Hants Fife<br />
B93 9BA Wk: 0121-411 3172 GU30 7HH KY11 9YS<br />
01564 730182 Ho: 01564-824375 07774 643717 01383 822245<br />
julie_john@lineone.net<br />
Tony Hughes Mark Pollard Phil Walters Julian Corcoran<br />
Coppice View Orchard End Birchfield Coage 8 South Road<br />
5 Cloudbridge Drive Foxenhole Mill Urquehart Noage<br />
SOLIHUL West Hill Road ELGIN Porthcawl<br />
W. Midlands Oery St Mary Moray CF36 3DG<br />
B92 0PY Devon IV30 3LR 01656 7724<strong>35</strong><br />
0121 704 2114 EX11 1JT 01343 843128 Mob. 07976 206278<br />
01404 815630<br />
Unfinished project,<br />
Alan Taylor Clive Snton Help Co-ordinator<br />
43 Highgrove 114 Wearbay Road<br />
Ravarnet Folkstone Keith Williams<br />
LISBURN Kent 34 Sandacre Road<br />
Co. Antrim CT19 6PL Nine Elms<br />
N. IRELAND 07801 061014 SWINDON<br />
BT27 5AX<br />
Wiltshire<br />
Hm02892 672692<br />
SN5 5UA<br />
Wk02890 568204 01793 882610<br />
And of course;-<br />
Yours truly<br />
Dave Smith<br />
See back page<br />
keith.williams@aceous.com<br />
Web site addresses.<br />
www.minari-register.org.uk<br />
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Aims of the Minari Owners Register<br />
1. To provide members with a forum for exchanging information on<br />
'Minari' matters.<br />
2. To organise events for Minari owners (or potential owners) and<br />
therefore enhance the social aspects of ownership.<br />
3. To provide help and support to members during the build and use of<br />
their cars.<br />
NB. The ideas, tips and hints expressed (written or verbal), and any opinions expressed, in this NL, or as a result<br />
of contacts made through the NL, are made in good faith. Each reader/member/owner is responsible for ensuring<br />
the safety and legality of any modifications made, whether as a result of information in the NL or not.<br />
Any reliance placed on articles in this NL is at the reader's own risk. Although the Register tries to ensure that<br />
information printed is correct, the Minari Owners Register excludes any responsibility for any negligent statements.<br />
The Register will not accept any responsibility for injury, loss or damage caused to anybody, however caused, as a<br />
result of reading or following articles printed in this NL, or assistance offered by any Member/reader.<br />
Don’t forget, if you have anything for sale, or which you want, the<br />
Register web site has a For Sale / Wanted secHon.<br />
Free, GraHs and for nothing. Design your own advert, and I will put it<br />
on the site. Don’t forget to add a photo or three.<br />
Keep them quite large so the car can sell itself.<br />
Excuses for this NL for non compleon of<br />
the project.<br />
I got married, now have to ask<br />
permission to leave better half's side!!<br />
Adrian ‘under the thumb already’ Sco.<br />
Register Secretary<br />
D. A. Smith 020-8303-7110 (home)<br />
59 Penhill Road<br />
BEXLEY<br />
Kent<br />
DA5 3EP<br />
www.minari-register.org.uk<br />
e-mail da-smith@ntlworld.com<br />
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