Tak<strong>in</strong>g on talkbackHeralded as a forerunner <strong>of</strong> a new generation <strong>in</strong> talkbackradio, radio and TV host Paul Murray (UWS Bachelor <strong>of</strong> Arts –Humanities) has taken on a new challenge this year – host<strong>in</strong>g<strong>the</strong> drive program on <strong>Sydney</strong> radio station 2UE.The UWS graduate jo<strong>in</strong>ed 2UE <strong>in</strong>February 2011 as part <strong>of</strong> an allnewl<strong>in</strong>e-up designed to change<strong>the</strong> station’s approach to talkradio as part <strong>of</strong> its relaunch.Charged with deliver<strong>in</strong>g ‘a fast-pacedbreakdown <strong>of</strong> current affairs each day’,it is a more serious turn from his last roleas co-host <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> drive shift on Triple M.Paul previously worked <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong>newsrooms <strong>of</strong> 2GB, 2SM andNova 96.9.Round<strong>in</strong>g out his schedule assurely one <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> busiest men <strong>in</strong>Australia media, Paul also presentsa nightly prime-time talk show onSky News, Paul Murray Live.Grow<strong>in</strong>g up <strong>in</strong> <strong>Sydney</strong>’s north-west,Paul completed a Bachelor <strong>of</strong> Arts(Humanities) part-time at UWS. Bu<strong>the</strong> wasn’t always keen on go<strong>in</strong>g touniversity, hav<strong>in</strong>g not enjoyed school.‘My girlfriend, and her wonderfully<strong>in</strong>spir<strong>in</strong>g mum, conv<strong>in</strong>ced me to goto a UWS Open Day. By <strong>the</strong> end <strong>of</strong><strong>the</strong> afternoon, I was <strong>in</strong> love with <strong>the</strong>campus and <strong>in</strong>trigued by <strong>the</strong> course,’he says. ‘My years at UWS, <strong>the</strong> peopleI learnt from and <strong>the</strong> students I learntwith brought, without doubt, <strong>the</strong>turn<strong>in</strong>g po<strong>in</strong>t <strong>of</strong> my life. The coursebroadened every possible horizon and<strong>in</strong>formed my way <strong>of</strong> th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g aboutvirtually everyth<strong>in</strong>g to this day.’But his passion for <strong>the</strong> media startedmuch earlier. Paul says <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> same waysome kids just knew <strong>the</strong>y wanted toplay cricket for Australia, he knew healways wanted to work <strong>in</strong> radio. Evenas a child, he listened to talkback on hisclock radio at home, and he is a selfconfessed‘radio tragic and news junkie’.When he began work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>newsrooms, this led to an amaz<strong>in</strong>garray <strong>of</strong> experiences on <strong>the</strong> job.‘By 25, I’d been to court, a federalbudget lock-up, seen people shoton <strong>the</strong> street, talked to rock stars at<strong>the</strong> Arias, and done plenty <strong>of</strong> oneon-oneswith <strong>the</strong> Prime M<strong>in</strong>ister.’One <strong>of</strong> his best moments as a reporterwas dur<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> 2001 <strong>Sydney</strong> bushfires.‘Then-Prime M<strong>in</strong>ister John Howardrecognised I was a local boy dur<strong>in</strong>g<strong>the</strong> Marsfield fires and spoke to mebefore <strong>the</strong> rest <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> pack,’ he says.His journalistic work on this event,as well as <strong>the</strong> federal election and <strong>the</strong>collapse <strong>of</strong> Ansett, was acknowledgedwith <strong>the</strong> Brian White Award for radioreporter <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> year <strong>in</strong> 2002.By contrast, crime report<strong>in</strong>g wasalways his least favourite task, ‘because<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> obvious unpleasantness,and court stories, because <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>consequences <strong>of</strong> gett<strong>in</strong>g it wrong’.Paul’s days now are a whirlw<strong>in</strong>d<strong>of</strong> digg<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to <strong>the</strong> news <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> dayto plan his shows and <strong>the</strong>n a hecticafternoon and even<strong>in</strong>g <strong>of</strong> present<strong>in</strong>g.Paul also loves us<strong>in</strong>g Twitter as atool to keep up with what’s go<strong>in</strong>g on <strong>in</strong><strong>the</strong> world <strong>of</strong> news and current affairs,and tweets as part <strong>of</strong> his own show.Already a seasoned media veteran<strong>in</strong> his early 30s, Paul believes that tosucceed <strong>in</strong> this competitive arena, <strong>the</strong>reare some critical attributes you need.‘For me it is an ability to see andassess what’s <strong>in</strong> front <strong>of</strong> you, butbe more <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> marg<strong>in</strong>s. Ialso th<strong>in</strong>k you need to be very aware<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> way you deal with o<strong>the</strong>rs.This is a craft, not an ego trip.’And for those want<strong>in</strong>g to forge acareer as journalists or broadcasters,be will<strong>in</strong>g to work for free, he says.‘You’d be surprised how <strong>of</strong>ten bossesdon’t look fur<strong>the</strong>r than <strong>the</strong> room for asolution. Do whatever you can to get<strong>in</strong>to that room. And when you get <strong>the</strong>re,take time to talk to people who’vebeen <strong>the</strong>re longer than you. I’d also berealistic about what you can achieve<strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> first couple <strong>of</strong> years. They don’thire newsreaders fresh out <strong>of</strong> uni.’6 GradLife November 2011
Margaret’spassion countsUWS graduate Dr Margaret Drever has comb<strong>in</strong>ed her passionsfor <strong>the</strong> pursuit <strong>of</strong> learn<strong>in</strong>g and community <strong>in</strong>volvement <strong>in</strong> a stellarcareer <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> account<strong>in</strong>g pr<strong>of</strong>ession. Her current role, as President<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> NSW Division <strong>of</strong> CPA Australia, marks <strong>the</strong> culm<strong>in</strong>ation <strong>of</strong> heracademic and pr<strong>of</strong>essional journey.After spend<strong>in</strong>g seven years as astay-at-home mum to three children,Margaret worked at Boral for 13years as an accountant. ‘My rolewas to look after <strong>the</strong> Port KemblaSlag Plant, reconcile <strong>the</strong> wages, pay<strong>the</strong> salaried staff, and ma<strong>in</strong>ta<strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong>asset register, which was about $127million. Technology changed so muchdur<strong>in</strong>g this time. Manual account<strong>in</strong>gfor taxation moved from A3 sheets tocomputerisation,’ Margaret says.While at Boral, she studied aBachelor <strong>of</strong> Commerce <strong>in</strong> Account<strong>in</strong>gat UWS, graduat<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> 1994, and <strong>the</strong>nbecame a TAFE account<strong>in</strong>g teacher.‘Study<strong>in</strong>g this degree opened doorsfor me to follow my goals,’ she says.Seek<strong>in</strong>g fur<strong>the</strong>r education, Margaretcompleted a Master <strong>of</strong> Economicswith specialisations <strong>in</strong> Account<strong>in</strong>g andEntrepreneurship at <strong>the</strong> <strong>University</strong><strong>of</strong> New England, and <strong>the</strong>n beganwhat would be an 11-year st<strong>in</strong>t withSou<strong>the</strong>rn Cross <strong>University</strong>, first asan Associate Lecturer <strong>in</strong> 1996.Dur<strong>in</strong>g her time at Sou<strong>the</strong>rn Cross,Margaret had <strong>the</strong> opportunity toconduct workshops overseas <strong>in</strong>Hong Kong and Shanghai – andsome challenges she experiencedled to an unexpected opportunity.‘International students struggled<strong>in</strong> understand<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> concepts <strong>in</strong>account<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong>ory. I started to puttoge<strong>the</strong>r m<strong>in</strong>d maps <strong>in</strong> order for <strong>the</strong>mto get <strong>the</strong> flow <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> materials. I had aconversation with Wiley Publishers abouthow to address account<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong>ory <strong>in</strong> adifferent way,’ she says. ‘They believed<strong>in</strong> me and we went ahead and produceda workbook <strong>in</strong> 2004, <strong>the</strong>n a textbook<strong>in</strong> 2007 that <strong>in</strong>cluded m<strong>in</strong>d maps.’Sett<strong>in</strong>g an even higher goal for herself,Margaret <strong>the</strong>n undertook a Doctor <strong>of</strong>Philosophy, complet<strong>in</strong>g it <strong>in</strong> 2006 witha <strong>the</strong>sis entitled ‘Determ<strong>in</strong>ants <strong>of</strong> SmallBus<strong>in</strong>ess Liquidity <strong>in</strong> Australia’, and laterbecame <strong>the</strong> Director <strong>of</strong> Account<strong>in</strong>g andBus<strong>in</strong>ess Programs at Charles Sturt<strong>University</strong> Study Centre, and an AdjunctAssociate Pr<strong>of</strong>essor with Charles Sturt<strong>University</strong> – a role she still holds today.Margaret has a passion for smallbus<strong>in</strong>ess research, and supervisesa PhD student <strong>in</strong>vestigat<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong>relationship between banks and smallbus<strong>in</strong>ess. Over <strong>the</strong> years, she has alsobeen <strong>in</strong>volved with Small EnterpriseAssociation <strong>of</strong> Australia and New Zealand(SEAANZ) and International Council <strong>of</strong>Small Bus<strong>in</strong>ess (ICSB) conferences.Margaret’s association with CPAAustralia began <strong>in</strong> 1994 when she was amember. She later became <strong>the</strong> CampusLiaison Officer for SCU’s C<strong>of</strong>fs Harbourcampus, and was <strong>the</strong> Branch Chair forNor<strong>the</strong>rn Rivers for two years. In 2004,she was elected to <strong>the</strong> NSW DivisionalCouncil <strong>of</strong> CPA Australia, and was madea Fellow <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> association <strong>in</strong> 2006.‘Through my work with CPA AustraliaI was a liaison <strong>of</strong>ficer for <strong>the</strong> SmallBus<strong>in</strong>ess Committee. Today, I am part<strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> NSW Division <strong>of</strong> CPA AustraliaSME Taskforce,’ Margaret says.While she left full-time employment<strong>in</strong> 2009 to spend quality time withher frail mo<strong>the</strong>r and work part-time,Margaret ma<strong>in</strong>ta<strong>in</strong>ed her l<strong>in</strong>ks with<strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>dustry bodies. In 2010 she waselected as a Deputy President <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>NSW Division <strong>of</strong> CPA Australia, andwas <strong>the</strong>n voted as President <strong>in</strong> 2011.‘It has been a privilege to be part <strong>of</strong>NSW Divisional Council <strong>of</strong> CPA Australiaover <strong>the</strong> last seven years,’ she says.Among <strong>the</strong> highlights <strong>of</strong> her time asPresident this year with CPA Australia,Margaret says, were meet<strong>in</strong>g Max Walkerat its Newcastle Convention and talk<strong>in</strong>gto him about cricket, shak<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> hand<strong>of</strong> Neil Armstrong – <strong>the</strong> first man to walkon <strong>the</strong> moon – at a celebration <strong>of</strong> 125years for CPA Australia, be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>volvedwith <strong>the</strong> Board <strong>of</strong> Studies to develop<strong>the</strong> HSC F<strong>in</strong>ancial Services Curriculum,be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>volved <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> launch <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>TAFE Associate Degree, and see<strong>in</strong>g hermentee complete <strong>the</strong> CPA program.‘I found that teach<strong>in</strong>g and mentor<strong>in</strong>ggo hand <strong>in</strong> hand to foster students’wellbe<strong>in</strong>g. I remember all too wellwhat it was like as an undergraduatestudent <strong>in</strong> a sea <strong>of</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r undergraduatestudents and only be<strong>in</strong>g a number.Hav<strong>in</strong>g mentors on campus providesan opportunity for students to enjoynetwork<strong>in</strong>g from day one,’ she says.In terms <strong>of</strong> what <strong>the</strong> future holdsfor Margaret, she says she is look<strong>in</strong>gforward to provid<strong>in</strong>g service to <strong>the</strong>community, enjoy<strong>in</strong>g what life has to <strong>of</strong>fer,and be<strong>in</strong>g available for whatever elsecomes her way – whe<strong>the</strong>r that is writ<strong>in</strong>gmore books, work<strong>in</strong>g at a universityaga<strong>in</strong> or tak<strong>in</strong>g on board positions.Margaret’s advice to o<strong>the</strong>rs? ‘Becreative – use <strong>the</strong> skills you haveavailable. Have <strong>in</strong>tegrity, as your ethicswill show you <strong>the</strong> way. Show leadershipand treat people <strong>the</strong> way you want tobe treated. Mentor o<strong>the</strong>rs – along myjourney I have had mentors or peoplethat motivated me. Listen to o<strong>the</strong>rs,as <strong>the</strong>re are always two sides to astory. And be organised, you will besurprised what you can achieve!’»»For more <strong>in</strong>formation on Account<strong>in</strong>gcourses at UWS visit:www.uws.edu.au/account<strong>in</strong>g/soaGradLife November 2011 7