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Minutes of Executive Committee Meeting on June 6, 2011

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<str<strong>on</strong>g>Minutes</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Meeting</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>June</strong>, 6, <strong>2011</strong>Mr. Bucks asked that staff study the appropriated funds, and provide arecommendati<strong>on</strong> for the committee to c<strong>on</strong>sider at its next meeting in July, noting thatmost <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> these funds appear to be dormant or for programs no l<strong>on</strong>ger being pursued.Up<strong>on</strong> a moti<strong>on</strong> duly made by Mr. B. Miller, the <strong>2011</strong>-2012 Budget was approvedunanimously by roll call vote.VI.Report <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> DirectorMr. Huddlest<strong>on</strong> noted that staff had been very active during the year. The Joint AuditProgram had issued proposed assessments in excess <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> $50,000,000 so far this year. He notedthe work <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> all standing committees and the str<strong>on</strong>g evaluati<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> MTC training programs thathad been received.Mr. Huddlest<strong>on</strong> noted the dwindling participati<strong>on</strong> in the Commissi<strong>on</strong>’s Technology<str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>, which had been established in 2000 to help this committee m<strong>on</strong>itor the technologyprojects <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the Participati<strong>on</strong> in the committee has been in steady decline since implementati<strong>on</strong><str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the website in 2006, despite periodic efforts by the chairs to bolster participati<strong>on</strong> and interest.Since December <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> 2008, the committee has had few active participants; many telec<strong>on</strong>ferencesand meetings c<strong>on</strong>sisted <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong>ly <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the committee’s chair and MTC staff. It is currently without achair. He recommended suspending the activities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the committee at this time, noting that atechnology report addendum to this report would serve the functi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> providing informati<strong>on</strong>about the Commissi<strong>on</strong>’s technology efforts to the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>. He added that theTechnology <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> could be revivified in the future by the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> if it wasneeded.Up<strong>on</strong> a moti<strong>on</strong> duly made by Ms. Prosser, the recommendati<strong>on</strong> to suspend activities <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>the Technology <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> indefinitely and require a technology report as an addendum to eachexecutive director report provided to the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> during the time the Technology<str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> is inactive was approved unanimously by roll call vote.VII.<str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> & Program ReportsA. Audit <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>Mr. Koenig gave the Audit <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>’s report. Mr. Koenig remarked that thepresentati<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> the IRS uncertain tax positi<strong>on</strong> requirements given in March was wellreceived.B. Litigati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>Ms. Sicilian provided the committee report for Marshal Stranburg, thecommittee’s chair. She noted that last year’s Paull Mines award had been presented toMr. B. Miller, and encouraged every<strong>on</strong>e to submit nominati<strong>on</strong>s for this year’s award toher, Loretta King, or to Mr. Huddlest<strong>on</strong>.3


<str<strong>on</strong>g>Minutes</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Meeting</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>June</strong>, 6, <strong>2011</strong>C. Nexus <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>Mr. Shimkin provided the report. This committee is chaired by Lennie Collins <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>North Carolina Department <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Revenue. The voluntary disclosures program is operatingas usual, and the program looks forward to upgrading its technology to processdisclosures better and faster in the future.D. Technology <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>This <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> met twice since the Annual <str<strong>on</strong>g>Meeting</str<strong>on</strong>g>. The committee’s chair,Gord<strong>on</strong> Smead <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the Tennessee Department <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Revenue, retired in April.E. Uniformity <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>Mr. W. Miller gave the committee’s report. In the Sales and Use TaxSubcommittee, the major projects are the notice and reporting project and the centralizedadministrati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> telecommunicati<strong>on</strong>s transacti<strong>on</strong>s taxes. The subcommittee is stillworking <strong>on</strong> the Hotels Intermediaries project.The Income and Franchise Tax Subcommittee is working <strong>on</strong> Article IV <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> theCompact, amendments to secti<strong>on</strong> 17. The subcommittee is also working <strong>on</strong> the definiti<strong>on</strong><str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> gross receipts, and worked <strong>on</strong> the Mobile Workforce Project, the pass-through entityfor n<strong>on</strong>-income tax paying companies, financial instituti<strong>on</strong> apporti<strong>on</strong>ment, and thecombined reporting tax haven project.F. TrainingMr. Beier noted that the list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> classes and courses for late summer and for the fallare listed in the report.VIII. Uniformity – Hearing Officer Recommendati<strong>on</strong>s for C<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong>A. Proposed Amendment to Model Statute for Combined Reporting, Secti<strong>on</strong> 1.I(Definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Tax Haven)Ms. Sicilian informed the members <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the committee <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the opti<strong>on</strong>s available foramending the combined reporting model statute. She asked Mr. Fort, the hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficerfor the proposal, to summarize it for the committee. Mr. Fort informed the committeethat the purpose <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the proposed amendment is to reevaluate the use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the originalOECD list <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> tax havens. The OECD has since aband<strong>on</strong>ed that list, but retains thedefiniti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> tax haven. He recommends that the model statute retain the definiti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> taxhaven, but omit references to the OECD tax haven list.4


<str<strong>on</strong>g>Minutes</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Meeting</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>June</strong>, 6, <strong>2011</strong>Up<strong>on</strong> a moti<strong>on</strong> duly made by Mr. B. Miller, the hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficer’s recommendati<strong>on</strong>was approved unanimously by roll call vote and the proposal recommended forc<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> for adopti<strong>on</strong> by the Commissi<strong>on</strong> (triggering a bylaw 7 survey).B. Proposed Model Statute Regarding Partnership or Pass-Through EntityIncome That is Ultimately Realized by an Entity That is Not Subject toIncome TaxMr. Laskin was the hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficer for this project. Mr. Laskin noted that theintent <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> this project is to impose income tax <strong>on</strong>ce <strong>on</strong> income earned by a pass-throughentity that is owned by an entity that is not subject to income tax. The hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficer’srecommendati<strong>on</strong> is that the dividends paid deducti<strong>on</strong> available to a pass-through entityunder the Internal Revenue Code be denied when those dividends are passed through toan entity not subject to income tax that holds a 50% or more ownership interest in thepass-through.The Chair asked the public for their comments <strong>on</strong> this proposal. Mr. Lardcommented <strong>on</strong> the public hearing process in general and the use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> MTC staff as hearing<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers. He noted the importance <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the public hearing process and suggested that itwould be much improved with the use <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> independent hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficers.Addressing the recommendati<strong>on</strong> before the committee <strong>on</strong> this proposal, Ms.Williams and Mr. Stain reiterated their written objecti<strong>on</strong>s and argued that Mr. Laskin didnot adequately hear both sides <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the argument, and said there had been an inadequateinvestigati<strong>on</strong> c<strong>on</strong>ducted. Mr. Hall opined that Mr. Laskin failed to take into account thepossible impact <strong>on</strong> insurance policy holders. Particular c<strong>on</strong>cern the relati<strong>on</strong>ship betweenthe proposal and retaliatory taxes was expressed.Mr. Bucks and Mr. Johns<strong>on</strong> resp<strong>on</strong>ded that the Commissi<strong>on</strong> has used its publichearing format hundreds <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> times without such an acrim<strong>on</strong>ious assault <strong>on</strong> the hearing<str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficer, and pointed out that a public hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficer is not a magistrate and should nothave to perform independent research.Mr. S<strong>on</strong>nichsen said that the committee should hold <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>f <strong>on</strong> taking acti<strong>on</strong> untilinsurance regulators can review and provide further input <strong>on</strong> the proposal. Mr.Huddlest<strong>on</strong> read the message he had received earlier in the day from NAIC. Noting theunfortunate lateness <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> input from the NAIC, Mr. Bucks nevertheless agreed they shouldprovide input, and urged them to make sure they fully appreciate the evoluti<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> thetaxati<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> business structures, noting that tax commissi<strong>on</strong>ers have much to learn aboutthe insurance industry as well. Mr. Johns<strong>on</strong> str<strong>on</strong>gly encouraged the insurance industryto provide further input with greater specificity.Up<strong>on</strong> a moti<strong>on</strong> duly made by Ms. Prosser that committee c<strong>on</strong>tinue to c<strong>on</strong>sider thisproposal at its next meeting in July to allow time for input from the insurance regulators,the moti<strong>on</strong> was approved unanimously by roll call vote.5


<str<strong>on</strong>g>Minutes</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Meeting</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>June</strong>, 6, <strong>2011</strong>C. Proposed Model Sales and Use Tax Notice and Reporting StatuteMs. Sicilian, the hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficer for this proposal, informed the committeemembers that this project was initiated when the Colorado legislature introduced their billrequiring remote sellers to notify customers at the time <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sale that there may be a taxliability associated with the purchase and to also report to the Colorado department <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>revenue about sales to customers. All taxpayer informati<strong>on</strong> is deemed c<strong>on</strong>fidential. Fivestates have enacted similar requirements and two other states are c<strong>on</strong>sidering suchlegislati<strong>on</strong>. This legislati<strong>on</strong> makes for uniform legislati<strong>on</strong> rather than the n<strong>on</strong>-uniformresult as individual states pass their own legislati<strong>on</strong>. Ms. Sicilian also noted the pendinglitigati<strong>on</strong> over Colorado’s versi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> the statute.Mr. Townsend <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Wal-Mart stores supports this project because Wal-Mart wants“e-tailers” to be put <strong>on</strong> an equal footing with “bricks and mortar” retailers. He urged theCommissi<strong>on</strong> to pursue the measure and noted that it doesn’t undermine the StreamlinedSales Tax Project. Mr. Brubaker stated that he has no problem with the directi<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> theproposal but that it is not ready; a c<strong>on</strong>sistent method <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sourcing needs to be addressedfor it to be workable. Without a c<strong>on</strong>sistent method <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> sourcing sales the model statutemay run into problems.Up<strong>on</strong> a moti<strong>on</strong> duly made by Ms. Prosser, the hearing <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g>ficer’s recommendati<strong>on</strong>was approved by five affirmative votes (Idaho, Missouri, North Dakota, Texas, andUtah), with <strong>on</strong>e nay (Washingt<strong>on</strong>), and two abstenti<strong>on</strong>s (California and M<strong>on</strong>tana; D.C.and Oreg<strong>on</strong> did not participate) and the proposal recommended for c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> foradopti<strong>on</strong> by the Commissi<strong>on</strong> (triggering a bylaw 7 survey).IX.Review <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> Upcoming <str<strong>on</strong>g>Meeting</str<strong>on</strong>g>s and Events ScheduleMr. Mats<strong>on</strong> reminded the committee about the hotel reservati<strong>on</strong> deadline for the annualmeeting in Whitefish, M<strong>on</strong>tana, and also warned about the strict cancellati<strong>on</strong> policy. He notedthat the Uniformity and <str<strong>on</strong>g>Executive</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Committee</str<strong>on</strong>g>s will meet in Charlest<strong>on</strong>, South Carolina duringthe week <str<strong>on</strong>g>of</str<strong>on</strong>g> November 29 th , and the winter committee meetings will be held March 6 th throughthe 9 th in Nashville, Tennessee.X. AdjournmentUp<strong>on</strong> a moti<strong>on</strong> duly made, the meeting was adjourned at 4:39 p.m.6

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