Noreen Gosch Speaks About - Jeff Gannon, Johnny Gosch And The ...

Noreen Gosch Speaks
About - Jeff Gannon,
Johnny Gosch And
The Attempted Theft Of
Her Book 'Why Johnny
Can't Come Home'
By Charlene Fassa
8-18-5
As most of you already know, Noreen Gosch is the mother of
Johnny Gosch. When Johnny Gosch was 12 years of age and
working as a paperboy for the Des Moines Register newspaper, he
was kidnapped not far from his home. It was a quiet Sunday
morning, around 6A.M. on September 5, 1982, when Johnny had
left his home on foot to collect his assigned stack of newspapers to
deliver around his quintessential "Leave It To Beaver"
neighborhood. Just as he was about to pick up his bundle of
newspapers, he was forcefully nabbed off the street, shoved into the
back seat of a strange car, drugged, and permanently removed from
his family. Johnny's childhood would be destroyed while his family
was shattered and consigned to a life of endless grieving.
Years later, on February 5, 1999, in a civil action in a U.S. District

Court in Lincoln, Nebraska, Paul Bonacci painstakingly recounted
the sordid, heart breaking details of Johnny Gosch's abduction and
forced participation in an elite government sponsored pedophile sex
slave ring, that dehumanized and controlled its young, hapless
victims using techniques such as drugs, murder, satanic rituals,
sexual abuse, and torture, resulting in MPD (multiple-personality
disorder). The children were systemically programmed and
"zombified" as part of the CIA's ongoing, under-the-radar MK-
ULTRA (MK = mind control) mind control program.
Bonacci's attorney was John DeCamp, who later authored a
revealing and ground breaking book called The Franklin Cover-Up,
which is a no-holds-barred expose of the pedophile ring that had
abducted both Johnny Gosch and Paul Bonacci. Paul Bonacci knew
what he was talking about regarding Johnny Gosch's kidnapping in
1982. Why? Because he was there! Bonacci's role within the
pedophile ring was simultaneously that of a victim and a perpetrator.
Actually, the then 16 year old Paul Bonacci was the person who had
lured and then forced Johnny into the back of the car that screeched
away on that fateful September morning. It was Bonacci who had
helped drug Johnny, and then proceeded to initiate him into the
group, his new "family", by sexually assaulting him.
Bonacci himself had been abducted and pressed into service as an
MK-ULTRA sex slave by Lawrence E. King, a high ranking
Republican operative who managed Franklin Savings and Loan in
Omaha, Nebraska as a front for an internationally organized
pedophile ring. He ran this pedophile ring for the benefit of
government, military, and big business elites, whose patronage
included political blackmail, snuff films, kiddy pornography,
prostitution, illegal arms and drug running, extortion, and money
laundering. This was the same Larry King who allegedly ran the
infamous midnight "call-boy" tours of the White House, along with
Craig Spence. Amazingly, the White House pedophile story was
headlined by the Washington Times, on June 29, 1989.
This brings us full circle back to Noreen Gosch. She has been an
indefatigable seeker of the truth in all things related to her son's
kidnapping. It was Noreen's personally funded private detectives,
not the police or any branch of law enforcement, who finally

uncovered the culprits who were behind Johnny's kidnapping,
including why they had chosen him, for what purpose, and what
they had done to him as a result.
Noreen has been instrumental in exposing organized pedophilia, its
infrastructure and some of the personalities behind it, as well as
helping to expose the pedophile network's interlocking relationships
with elite hierarchies of political, military, and corporate power.
For the past 23 years, Noreen has dedicated her life to educating
parents, politicians, police, teachers, children and anyone who
would listen to the sordid facts behind child abductions in America,
including the hidden menace of organized pedophile rings.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
"In each of the past 22 years, every president of the United States
has continued to proclaim May 25th as National Missing Children's
Day."
NOTE: "... each year on May 25th ... National Missing Children's
Day... they always have a theme. In 1994, they used the theme of "
turn your porch light on for missing children". The National Center
for Missing Children chose that in honor of Johnny, because our
family kept our porch light on from the first night he was missing
and for the next 15 years. It was quite an honor to have him chosen
but also sad that any parent would have to do so." --Noreen Gosch
Here are the most up to date studies on missing children from the

National Center for Missing and Exploited Children:
"To date, two such studies have been completed. The first National
Incidence Studies of Missing, Abducted, Runaway, and
Thrownaway Children (NISMART-1), was released in 1990, and
the second, known as NISMART-2, was released in October 2002.
According to NISMART-2 research, which studied the year 1999,
an estimated 797,500 children were reported missing; 58,200
children were abducted by nonfamily {sic} members; 115 children
were the victims of the most serious, long-term non-family
abductions called "stereotypical kidnappings"; and 203,900 children
were the victims of family
abductions." (http://www.missingkids.com)
When you crunch the numbers behind the statistics for children
abducted by non-family members, a disturbing picture emerges.
When you divide 58,200 by 365 days of the year, you get 159.45
children who go missing every day!
Remember, these are only children that were abducted by nonfamily
members and only in the USA.
That's about a 1,119 children disappearing each week. And that's
data from 1999!
After considering the above statistics and the tragedy it represents
for humanity, it's easy to understand why Noreen established the
Johnny Gosch Foundation shortly after Johnny's kidnapping in
1982.
But that's not all. In the1980's, she pioneered both state and federal
legislation that ensures the rights of kidnapped children and their
families. You can visit the Johnny Gosch Foundation website to
learn more about the foundation's mission and its many notable
achievements: http://www.johnnygosch.com. You can also preview
Noreen's informative and gripping book about the kidnapping of her
son: Why Johnny Can't Come Home.
Unbelievibly, now Noreen is threatened with another loss, as if the

1982 brutal kidnapping of her son Johnny wasn't enough. A
scoundrel is using the courts to paint Noreen into a legal and
financial corner in order to to steal HER remaining book inventory
and the reprint rights to HER book. This is unconscionable.
Noreen's book, Why Johnny Can't Come Home, represents a huge
part of her life story, and, frankly, it's practically all she tangibly has
left of her son.
And that brings us to the Jeff Gannon conundrum. In addition to the
potentially devestating legal battle over her book, Noreen is still
trying to determine if Jeff Gannon is indeed her son Johnny Gosch.
Those who say there's not enough credible evidence to demand a
DNA test, which would finally resolve this issue, are simply
WRONG! For example, Jim Rothstein, a retired NYC Detective,
who spent 35 years on the force, much of it investigating child
slavery and pedophile rings, asserts that the evidence is strong that
Gannon is actually Johnny Gosch. "To me Gannon looks like
Johnny," Rothstein opines-- "Everything just fits - the profile, the
M.O., everything, "
Then there's Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI agent who has worked on
the
Johnny Gosch case for over a decade. On Gunderson's website his
bio reads, *Prior to retirement in 1979, Ted Gunderson had over 700
persons under his command and operated a $22 million annual
budget." His complete resume is here:
http://www.tedgunderson.com. Gunderson says he has a credible
source that is certain Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch. "My source has

told me in the past that he has maintained contact with Johnny
Gosch," Gunderson reveals, "Let's just say he's in a position to
know." "The kids are all in touch with each other. It's a bond they all
share." Gunderson concludes with, "The only way I'd be 100 percent
sure is if there was a DNA test or if he admitted it."
Noreen confirms, "Ted sent me a videotape of his interview with his
source and he {source} said Gannon is Gosch, and he said it without
hesitation and without blinking an eye, and he said he's known it for
months." Noreen "believes the man is credible." Gunderson makes it
clear that Bonacci is not his informant, but is quick to add that
Bonacci "informed him a while back that Gosch had changed his
appearance."
In fact, there's even corroboration from John DeCamp, who weighs
in with, "Bonacci told me the same thing {that Jeff Gannon is
Johnny Gosch}." And this bombshell from Noreen: "...the birthmark
on Johnny's chest is very similar to a mark seen on Gannon's chest
in at
least one photo. Gannon has a spot on his right cheek in the same
place as Johnny." The Rothstein, Gunderson, and Gosch (Noreen)
quotes are from an article by Tim Schmitt, "Johnny Gosch, Jeff
Gannon, Hunter Thompson and the Unraveling of a Troubling Tale"
(http://educateyourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml)
The bottom line is this: There is enough "credible" evidence linking
Jeff Gannon and
Johnny Gosch for Noreen and her private investigators to insist on
a DNA test. The "credible" evidence phase of the case has passed.
It's
now a case of obtaining "conclusive" evidence. To her credit,
Noreen has
ALWAYS maintained that she didn't KNOW beyond a shadow of
doubt if Gannon was or
wasn't her son, Johnny. But she'd like to know, and I believe she
deserves to know, whichever way it turns out.

PRESS RELEASE
On July 23rd, 2005 Michael Corbin, talk show radio host of A
Closer Look @ www.4acloserlook.com issued the following press
release:
"Jeff Gannon/James Dale Guckert is he also Johnny Gosch?
Gannon/Guckert Offers to Take DNA Test to Prove he is not the
missing paper boy Johnny Gosch who was snatched from the his
paper route. "... Chameleon like Jeff Gannon also known as James
Dale Guckert, the former gay model known as Bulldog, who
obtained White House press credentials and held them for two years
is the middle of yet another controversy. Could the mysterious Jeff
Gannon who popped up from nowhere in 2003 with unfettered
White House access be the missing paperboy Johnny Gosch?"
(...)
"This controversy led to the White House then and possibly now
through this bizarre allegation that Jeff Gannon may be the
kidnapped Johnny Gosch. Gannon's name has also come up in
connection with the ongoing investigation in the Valerie Plame-Karl
Rove CIA leak. Indeed Gannon's background is a mystery. While
Gannon claims he has many witnesses as to his background, he does
not seem to be able to produce a biological mother and father.
Gannon has denied on the Denver based radio talk show, A Closer
Look, hosted by Michael Corbin, that he is Johnny Gosch and has
offered to Noreen Gosch, the mother of the missing boy, to take a
DNA test." "Developments will follow."
(...)

For more background information and details about Jeff Gannon and
Johnny Gosch visit the: Gannon/White House Sex Scandal archive
at www.Rense.com:
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/ganndat.htm
INTERVIEW WITH NOREEN GOSCH
CHARLENE: Isn't this the first time Jeff Gannon has
publicly stated that he's not Johnny Gosch? Why now?
NOREEN: I think Gannon needs to continue the publicity
and is now coming forward on the DNA only too keep somewhat of
a spotlight on himself.
CHARLENE: Even though you've always publicly maintained that
you didn't know if Jeff Gannon was Johnny Gosch, Gannon has
threatened to sue you on three different occasions. Why? What types
of contact have you had with Jeff Gannon?
NOREEN: I have had only email communication with Gannon. He
threatened to sue me because I have stated " I do not know if
Gannon is or is not Johnny". He claims that is throwing doubt in the
minds of people who would otherwise say he is not Johnny. I would
think he would want the DNA test and if he is not Johnny ... then
state it publicly and be done with it.
CHARLENE: I understand there are some unique physical
characteristics that Jeff Gannon and Johnny Gosch share. What are
they?
NOREEN: There are many facial features and the basic structure of
his face which are similar to Johnny. The color of his eyes and
reports of a birthmark on Gannon is the same as Johnny's. I have not
seen the birthmark however.
CHARLENE: For many internet researchers and bloggers, there
appear to be numerous reasons to suspect that Jeff Gannon and
Johnny Gosch are the same person. For starters, the name Jeff
Gannon, seems be related to Johnny Gosh in a twisted sort of way.

Would you explain the "name game" and how it relates to other
"players" and Johnny?
NOREEN: It appears in all of the alias names Gannon has used that
he kept the same initials as Johnny... JDG. Gannon also chose the
last name of the Des Moines Register Editor at the time Johnny was
kidnapped. There just seems to be a replay constantly of Johnny's
initials or clues to link Gannon to parts of Johnny's life.
CHARLENE: Besides the physical attributes and JDG initials
pattern, what other linkages/revelations between Gannon and
Johnny have compelled you and your team to propose a DNA test
be administered to Gannon in order to acheive closure on the
Gannon/Gosch issue?
NOREEN: There have been two informants who have stated
Gannon and Johnny are one in the same person. For me, the only
way that could possibly be resolved is a DNA test. That is the
reason my investigative team have asked for a DNA test.
CHARLENE: I understand you've verified that Johnny had plastic
surgery about 4 years ago, and coincidentally he also started shaving
his head around the same time.
NOREEN: Yes, long before Gannon surfaced, I had learned that
Johnny had plastic surgery and begun to shave his head. So when
Gannon did come on the scene... it was one more thing to consider.
CHARLENE: Not long ago, on an internet radio interview, I heard
Rusty Nelson, Larry King's ex-private, pedophile-ring photographer
speaking about, among other things, Jeff Gannon and Johnny
Gosch. Unfortunately, Rusty Nelson's story is beyond the scope of
this interview. Suffice it to say, in order to survive and out of sheer
desperation, Rusty managed to escape from Larry King's clutches
and is currently on the lam. Naturally, having been King's private
photographer, Nelson knew Johnny. During the interview Nelson
offered his opinion as to whether or not he thought Johnny Gosch
was Jeff Gannon. To paraphrase, he volunteered that he felt close to
certain that they were one and the same person. He followed up with
an anecdotal story about having serendipitously bumped into Johnny

Gosch, several years ago at a Farmer's Market--I can't recall where.
It seems to me that Rusty Nelson is qualified to speculate on this
matter. Were you aware of his conjecture? Have you been in contact
with Rusty Nelson?
NOREEN: I have been in contact with Rusty and have known him
for years. He has shared a great deal of information with us and
testified in federal court in 1999 as to all of these events. He told me
nearly 4 years ago that he had seen Johnny at the Farmer's Market in
a particular city.
CHARLENE: As of late you've been in contact with the Franklin
kids. These are the children from the Des Moines and Omaha area
who were also abducted and MK-ULTRAED into Larry King's
international, elite controlled, pedophile ring around the same time
Johnny was. Some of these survivors are no doubt members of the
original 83 children who came forward to testify about their horrific
abuse in the Franklin Case. Of course, like Johnny these "children"
are now approaching 40 years of age, but they are most likely
developmentally arrested, to greater or lesser degrees, "emotionally
frozen" at the age they were abducted and ritually traumatized. Can
you share with us what these survivors, the victims of King's
pedophile ring are telling you of their horrific ordeal and their
feelings about the future?
NOREEN: I have been in touch with a number of the Franklin kids,
many have shared information with me. They continue
communication to this day. For a number of them, their lives have
been broken as children who were victims of these crimes. It is true
they are now all approaching 40 years of age. Many are "fed up...
angry" about what happened to them and how their lives have been
robbed. Some want to do something about it and others are still very
afraid for themselves and their loved ones.
CHARLENE: I believe that you once said some of these survivors
feel like they have been programmed to do something in the future,
but they don't know what it is. It sounds like a group of "sleeper"
Manchurian Candidate cells that could be activated at any time for
evil purposes--no doubt. Could you explain?

NOREEN: It is a form of Manchurian Candidate....many feel these
kids are programmed to be accessed/triggered for some future use or
project.
CHARLENE: Many of these kids knew Johnny. Do some of the
Franklin kids you've been in contact with believe Jeff Gannon is
Johnny Gosch?
NOREEN: The majority of the Franklin kids I have been in contact
with do believe Jeff Gannon is Johnny. Some say they have been in
communication with him on a fairly regular basis. I would suspect
this is done by email on computer rather than face to face meetings.
CHARLENE: On the Johnny Gosch Foundation website:
www.johnnygosch.com --you describe Johnny as "Chameleon" like.
Others have also characterized him as "Chameleon" like, including
some of the surviving Franklin kids. Is it true that Jeff Gannon also
described himself as "Chameleon" like?
NOREEN: Throughout this investigation, I have been trained as a
Private Investigator... I listen for these "plays on words". The
reference to Johnny being a Chameleon was given to me by seven of
the Franklin kids I have known. I asked them why he was
considered a "Chameleon". They all told me it was because Johnny
was a "master of disguise". Gannon then began referring to himself
as "the Chameleon". I find that to be significant... Could it be a
coincidence...." co-incident" or was it given by Gannon as some
kind of clue. Gannon has also stated he has "hidden in plain sight".
Interesting idea.
CHARLENE: And then there's that pesky DNA test Gannon's been
dodging... until now--maybe? It seems Gannon has a pattern of
agreeing to submit to a DNA test, only later to refuse-- for one
reason or another. Also, most people probably aren't aware that
Gannon has repeatedly stipulated various conditions that need to be
met by your team as part of his agreeing to a DNA test. Can you
summarize the history of DNA negotiations with Gannon up to and
including the current agreement?
NOREEN: In March 2005, shortly after this story broke about

Gannon. I wrote to him by email (3 times) to ask him to "quietly
agree to a DNA test" to resolve this situation. Gannon did not
answer my emails. We then sent a gentleman representing me to
Gannon's home to talk with him. Gannon answered the door, when
the man asked him about a DNA and told he was there on behalf of
the "woman in Iowa". Gannon slammed the door on the man.
We later were on a network TV show in which Gannon said he
would take a DNA test. Only to later develop all kinds of
stipulations:
1. That the results should be kept private (no problem there).
2. That I would be required to make a public statement saying he
was not my son and sign documents agreeing not to ever mention
his name in public.
3. That Gannon would publicly make some declarations of
"spiritual support" for me.
4. Finally, that Gannon go forward to be a "national speaker for
Missing Children."
Some of these conditions were absurd.
To date... Gannon agreed to do the DNA on Michael Corbin's show
then has stalled once again. The DNA test is now in limbo for a
while.
CHARLENE: Did Gannon ever ask to be paid for taking a DNA
test?
NOREEN: Yes at one time he stated he wanted to be paid big bucks
for his "DNA SAMPLE". I rejected that idea but offered to pay for
the actual test.
CHARLENE: As I recall, your longtime private investigator, Mr.
Rothstein, who is a retired NYC Detective, is in charge of DNA
negotiations/ logistics with Jeff Gannon. If Gannon actually follows
through and submits to a DNA test, I'm sure Rothstein will ensure
every step of the procedure is carefully monitored. Call me
paranoid, but I would be suspicious of the results-- if there were any
unsupervised gaps (breaks in the chain of evidence) between the
blood being drawn and the DNA analysis. Even if the lab is
reputable, elite sociopaths (people behind Gannon?) with unlimited

power and money to burn always seem to find ways to derail these
well intentioned, truth seeking investigations. I'm sure Mr. Rothstein
is twenty steps ahead of me on this-- and has a plan in place to
control as many variables as humanly possible so that Gannon's
DNA test results will be bona fide. Can you comment?
NOREEN: Jim Rothstein has arranged for a reliable lab to do the
DNA test. We have advised Gannon of this... He has refused to give
us the name of his attorney so we can communicate with him to
make arrangements.
CHARLENE: It seem obvious that Gannon is playing mind games
with you regarding his willingness or lack there of to take a DNA
test! And as you've astutely surmised, this on again off again DNA
test scenario is free publicity for him. And I'm sure Gannon is more
than capable of making good use of publicity, even if it's negative.
On the other hand, if he is Johnny Gosch, taking a DNA test could
undoubtedly put him in harms way. Then again, this DNA
volleyball could be part of an overall cynical strategy by Gannon
and his handlers to keep the "Gannon is Gosch" story alive, but
essentially take the energy out of it. The story continues, it limps
along, but in a vapid state of limbo. This way the character arc, the
tension, the climax of the story can been shifted to fit an agenda.
Maybe this game is a backdoor approach for Gannon to gain control
of the "Is Gannon really Gosch" speculation frenzy. He knows the
DNA ball will forever be in his court. If Gannon can keep the story
focused at the level of a DNA test that's never resolved, and if he
can keep the public's ATTENTION focused on forensics -- he's in
control. And while he does his DNA dance, he can also threaten
legal action against anyone who publicly wonders about the is
"Gannon really Gosch" riddle -- it's a CHECKMATE of sorts.
CHARLENE: A local media outlet in your region about a month
ago ran a piece on their internet site announcing that there had been
a significant "breakthrough" in the Johnny Gosch case. I think they
described it as: "Johnny Gosch case heating-up." Yet they never
mentioned exactly what the breakthrough was! Or I just plain
missed it. However, they did mention something about the CIA and
their alleged involvement in organized pedophilia. What happened
to the CIA agent who had contacted you in order to help you crack

the Johnny Gosch case years ago, and who was instrumental in your
testifying before a Congressional Committee? What was the
"breakthrough" in Johnny's case?
NOREEN: The CIA agent who has resurfaced recently has brought
information to Jim Rothstein which is significant at this time. Jim
shared a portion of it, which the Waterloo, Iowa TV station reported
on. It was then circulated throughout the internet. He informed us
that originally 1700 children were targeted for this project... they
(pedophile ring) set about kidnapping children throughout the
country over a period of years. The number of "usable children"
they ended up with was approximately 1,000. I filed a FIOA request
and received a reply saying "All records on Johnny's case with the
CIA have vanished."
CHARLENE: After all these years, a fearful eye-witness finally
came forward and detailed what really had happened to Johnny
Gosch on the day he was kidnapped. He illuminated a crucial,
hidden aspect of Johnny's abduction. He knew Johnny wasn't a
runaway, he had watched Johnny's abduction unfold from a window
in the safety of his home. What's the significance of this new
revelation after all these years? Could this new eye-witness report
officially reopen the Johnny Gosch case?
NOREEN: We learned 22 years later that the only eye-witness to the
kidnapping was forced to change his story years ago by the police
chief. He saw a man shoot Johnny with a stun gun, saw him fall,
then be thrown into the back seat of a waiting car. The witness
instead stated he only heard the slamming of a car door. By the
changing of the story 22 years later, it allowed the Police chief,
Orval Cooney deniability and then call Johnny a "runaway child"
instead of "kidnapped child". We also later learned the same police
chief had been attending the sex parties in Omaha Nebraska with the
Franklin kids, so it is no mystery why he was trying to "bury the
Johnny Gosch story/case". The police say the case remains open to
this day...but when I approached them with this information... they
say " we are not going to try and reinvent the wheel". A cute way of
sidestepping the issue. We are discussing possibilities of legal
recourse but have not made a decision as yet.

CHARLENE: There's been some disturbing incidents and strange,
synchronistic events involving you and others, who were or are
connected to the Johnny Gosch case. Recently, there was your
yearly Johnny Gosch "update" interview with a local radio host, a
seasoned, nine year veteran, who was subsequently fired. Not long
after the update interview, a strange doll was delivered to your door.
And then, about two days later, you heard some distressing news on
the radio about a man who had revealed to you important
information about your local Police Chief and Johnny's kidnapping.
Comments?
NOREEN: Marty Stacey, an Omaha radio talk show host, did an
interview with me and Jim Rothstein. During the interview, we
shared the information in the question/answer above regarding the
police chief being involved in this scandal. The following day Marty
was called in by his boss and fired... the reason given was the
"Gosch/Rothstein interview". The following morning someone
placed an "anatomically correct, blow up, nude sex doll with dark
hair and a hole blown in the head at the door of my home". No one
saw it being placed there. The police were called and I made a
police report on the situation. We consider this to be a "veiled"
threat towards me regarding the information that I gave during the
interview.
CHARLENE: How many and what types of other threats and or
harassment have you experienced prior to the doll incident?
NOREEN: Over the years I have been followed, received
threatening phone calls, had men come to my home and pound on
the outside of my house, throw rocks at my home. My cars have
been damaged. It has been a very nerve wracking situation and one
has to wonder, why would anyone harass the mother of a missing
child ..... just for looking for her child? It is because there is much
more to this crime and they are afraid I will uncover it and make it
ALL PUBLIC.
CHARLENE: Is there an official/unofficial body-count related to
the Franklin/Johnny Gosch case?
NOREEN: The official body count for deaths in the

Franklin/Johnny case is now up to 15 deaths of witnesses and
people who have come forward with information.
CHARLENE: From what you and your investigators have
discovered, what have you determined about how organized
pedophile rings function? For example, is it true that these rings hire
professional photographers to surreptitiously photograph children,
and then compile these photos into catalogues so "clients" can
choose their preferred victims?
NOREEN: In August 1984, I testified at a Senate Hearing in
Washington DC. It was an Organized Crime hearing regarding
Missing Children. During the various testimony by myself and
others, Ken Lanning of the FBI, also testified. The FBI also
provided a catalog of materials confiscated by them during the arrest
of pedophiles. There were instruction books on molesting children,
torture devices and a catalog of children who had not yet been
kidnapped. A prospective "BUYERS GUIDE".
CHARLENE: On a more personal note, I worked at a Rape Crisis
Center, in the early 90's as a psychotherapist, as an advocate for
sexual abuse victims, as well as directing and coordinating a
Children's SafeHouse. The SafeHouse was a specially prepared
room in the center where we forensically interviewed sexually
abused children in order to provide evidence to hopefully prosecute
perpetrators directly or use the evidence to extract confessions and
then prosecute. Sadly, there was an appalling number of sexually
abused children who were routinely referred to the center, for
therapy and Safe-House interviews. And guess what? ORGANIZED
PEDOPHILE RINGS WERE NEVER MENTIONED--EVER! All
the standard, official literature about pedophilia was contained to
sick individuals acting alone. I seriously doubt if that has changed.
The Johnny Gosch case and others like it were NEVER mentioned.
And we at the center were considered to be among cutting edge
sexual abuse specialists, educators and therapists. Rape Crisis
centers and police departments around the country should be buying
box loads of your books. Are they?
NOREEN: What we uncovered 22
years ago was that many pedophile

ings are operative in this country. No
one wanted to hear this information at that time. Now we hear it in
the form of "human trafficking". We have a task force created in
Washington DC working on this very degree of "high crime". My
book is helpful for people, as this outlines from the beginning how
Johnny's kidnapping transpired and it will help others protect their
children.
CHARLENE: Why do you think so few American's know the truth
about the Johnny Gosch case? Why do you think organized
pedophilia operates under-the-radar, while depraved, lone nutters or
sick relatives who commit single or serial acts of pedophilia are
splashed all over the mainstream tabloids and newspapers?
NOREEN: It may appear that many people do not know about
Johnny's case but there has been visitors from all over the world to
my
website.... www.johnnygosch.com. Some of the countries were
France, England, Japan, China, Russia, Argentina, Greece, Italy, not
to mention all over the United States. It is not in the main stream
media now because it is not a "new case". During the early years
there was a lot of press coverage, but older cases have to move over
to make room for the new ones.
CHARLENE: Do you know how high up in government and
corporate circles the pedophile ring Larry King was operating
reached?
NOREEN: I only know he had high political connections in the
Republican party and had "friends in high places" so to speak.
CHARLENE: From my research, it appears organized pedophilia is
more rampant than ever. It's international in scope, and it's a multibillion
dollar growth industry. Please comment.
NOREEN: Pedophilia, kiddie porn and child prostitution is a multibillion
dollar business. The only reason we have it to this degree is
"supply and demand and supply and demand". We have many high
level wealthy pedophiles. The only difference between a rich and
poor pedophile is: The poor pedophile must kidnap his own

victims...while the rich one can afford to have his victims brought to
him." It sounds so simplistic but it is true.
CHARLENE: Was it John DeCamp who had informed you that
after Larry King was released from Federal Prison in 2001, he had a
plum position waiting for him somewhere within the ranks of the
Republican Party? Larry King had been famously characterized in
the old days as: "the fastest rising black star in the Republican
Party." Often overlooked is the fact that King was found guilty of
financial crimes ONLY while he was head honcho at the Franklin
Community Credit Union. It's common knowledge that the Credit
Union collapsed due to massive financial irregularities, but it's
uncommon knowledge that King was never charged, and should
have been, for his after hours pedophile and money laundering
activities while using the same credit union as a front. So it would
be no surprise to me if King had quietly resumed his secret lifestyle
as a pedophile kingpin, and is once again living a life of privilege
and power behind the scenes in Washington D.C., hosting late night
pedophile parties in some elegant mansion along Embassy Row, as
he did before.
And then there's this:
According to the June 1989 "above the crease", SIZZLING front
page article in the Washington Times, and later verified in court by
Paul Bonacci, the White House has allegedly also hosted several of
these "after hours" parties. I've read that King has had close ties with
Boy's Town since 1979. I've heard through the grapevine that Larry
King has recently met with Boys Town officials from Omaha with
plans to help
create another Boys Town on the outskirts of Washington, D.C.!
And worse yet, the project has progressed to the point of acquiring
the permits necessary to build the facility. Talk about an "Amber
Alert"-- it takes my breath away! Would you please comment on
this relationship between Larry King and Boys' Town, past and
present?
NOREEN: We did learn within the last year that there are plans to
build another Boys Town outside of Washington DC, I can only
speculate that King is involved. He did go to Washington very

shortly after his release from prison in April 2001. Msgr. Hupp,
former director of Boys Town, hired John DeCamp to represent
him, as he wanted to "tell everything he knew about Boys Town,
King and Franklin". Within a couple months Msgr. Hupp was dead.
When I met with him in 2004, he told me he was "afraid they were
going to kill him for what he knew". Now he too is gone. Hupp
contacted DeCamp a few months before he died. DeCamp said he
died under unusual circumstances... I do not know what they were.
CHARLENE: In February of 1999 in Lincoln Nebraska, you were
questioned by Plaintiff Paul Bonacci's attorney, John DeCamp, in
the civil action Paul A. Bonacci vs Lawrence E. King, with Judge
Warren K. Urbom presiding, and you revealed under oath the
following :
"We have investigated, we have talked to so far 35 victims of this
said organization that took my son and is responsible for what
happened to Paul, and they can verify everything that has happened.
What this story involves is an elaborate function, I will say, that was
an offshoot of a government program. The MK-Ultra program was
developed in the 1950s by the CIA. It was used to help spy on other
countries during the Cold War because they felt that the other
countries were spying on us."
(...)
"... there was a man by the name of Michael Aquino. He was in the
military. He had top Pentagon clearances. He was a pedophile. He
was a Satanist. He's founded the Temple of Set. And he was a close
friend of Anton LaVey. The two of them were very active in
ritualistic sexual abuse. And they deferred funding from this
government program to use [in] this experimentation on children.
"...they deliberately split off the personalities of these children into
multiples, so that when they're questioned or put under oath or
questioned under lie detector, that unless the operator knows how to
question a multiple-personality disorder, they turn up with no
evidence. They used these kids to sexually compromise politicians
or anyone else they wish to have control of. This sounds so far out
and so bizarre I had trouble accepting it in the beginning myself
until I was presented with the data. We have the proof. In black and
white."

Note: Noreen Gosch testimony culled from: Satanic subversion of
the U.S. Military, by Jeffrey Steinberg:
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satanic_subversion.htm
Your testimony serves as an eloquent summary of the Johnny Gosch
case and as a scathing indictment of government sponsored,
pedophile operations. That's why I included it as part of this
interview. My question, Noreen, is - how did Michael Aquino
specifically fit into the Johnny Gosch kidnapping?
NOREEN: It was reported to me and given in Federal Court,
February 1999, by Paul Bonacci, that "Michael Aquino ... called the
"Colonel" was in fact the man who came to Iowa, paid the
kidnappers for taking Johnny, then took Johnny with him. This took
place 14 days after the kidnapping. Bonacci stated this under oath in
Federal Court. Judge Urbom ruled Bonacci was telling the truth.
CHARLENE: In your opinion why did Judge Urbom find Paul
Bonacci and the overall evidence John DeCamp presented to the
court so compelling?
NOREEN: It was very surprising to us that Judge Urbom would
allow this process to take place, since he was the same Judge that
stated he thought Bonacci was nuts, not credible and not telling the
truth. He did an "about face" ...
CHARLENE: Any clues, guesses as to why Judge Urbom changed
his mind so abruptly? You certainly found Paul Bonacci credible.
Why?
NOREEN: I have no idea why Judge Urbom changed his mind, it
still baffles all of us including John DeCamp. Paul Bonacci's
information-- we have been able to research, verify and prove the
things he told us. This was done by a private investigator that John
De Camp hired years ago in 1989 through 2000.
CHARLENE: Could you connect the dots between brain wave
frequencies, codes, multi- personality disorder, and MK-ULTRA as
it relates to organized pedophilia?

NOREEN: The mind control works similar to hypnosis only to
much deeper levels. They program at Alpha, Beta, Theta and
beyond to Omega level of brain wave frequency the desired
instructions for later use. During the training/programming there is a
technique where by the victim ... is split and new personalities with
identities are created for desired purposes. They can be activated by
a "key word, song, verbal suggestion" the mind control victim will
then go into what I would call an "automatic pilot" situation and act
out exactly what has been programmed in the individual.
CHARLENE: Was the program called Project Monarch? Didn't
Bonacci's diary contain pages and pages of codes?
NOREEN: Yes it was called Project Monarch and Bonacci had 4 or
5 diaries with coding in it, step by step instructions on constructing
a bomb etc. And an account of all his abuses.
CHARLENE: Paul Bonacci won the case. Judge Urbom ruled that
Lawrence E. King was to pay Paul Bonacci one million dollars in
damages. Although Mr. Bonacci has yet to collect a penny of this
hard won judgment, Paul Bonacci's court victory, especially what he
conveyed about his role in Johnny Gosch's abduction, has given
your investigation into Johnny's disappearance and organized
pedophilia more credibility. You've been in touch off and on with
Paul Bonacci since 1999. He's told you things about Johnny's
appearance, changes that Johnny has made to his person that are
congruent with Jeff Gannon's appearance. What did he tell you, and
when? Are you still in touch with him?
NOREEN: We are still periodically in touch with Bonacci, but he
has not made any reference to Gannon. He has stated he is in touch
with Johnny, I believe on a somewhat regular basis. From time to
time he would give me messages from Johnny. This was prior to
Gannon appearing on the scene. Since Gannongate... there has been
no more info on Johnny from Bonacci.
CHARLENE: As part of the research for your book, Why Johnny
Can't Come Home, you invoked the FOIA (freedom of information
act) and requested a paper written by Michael Aquino called: "From

PsyOps to
Mind War, the Success of Victory". The government refused your
request based on so-called NATIONAL SECURITY. I've read
although Aquino's paper was never officially published in any
journals, it nevertheless enjoyed a measure of popularity as,
allegedly, it was widely circulated in government/military circles.
Fortunately, you managed to obtain a copy. What was the relevance
of this document to the Johnny Gosch case and perhaps to all of us
today?
NOREEN: This document written by Michael Aquino outlined the
project of using "mind controlling" techniques. It spelled out how it
was to be done. In researching for my book, I tried to access it as I
had done with other reports on the internet. I received a message
saying I would have to file a FOIA request. I filled out the
paperwork, sent it and approximately 3 weeks later I received a
letter from the National Security Agency that it would be a risk to
National Security to release that information to me.
CHARLENE: Were these mind control techniques to be used on
Americans? Who was to administer the mind control and for what
reason?
NOREEN: Yes, the mind control techniques were to be used on
Americans, most all of it was of military purposes ... they
experimented on prisoners, service men and branched out to
runaway children, then finally kidnapping children for this purpose.
CHARLENE: The "spookiest" story is how you procured that copy
of Aquino's: "From PsyOps to Mind War, the Success of Victory".
It's beyond amazing how the person who eventually sent you this
document KNEW that you had been trying to get a copy of it from
the government. How could this information leak out? Please
explain.
NOREEN: Several weeks after receiving the letter from the NSA, I
received a phone call from Linda Blood
(former girlfriend of Aquino) she said "I understand you tried to get
a copy of a report written by Michael Aquino and instead got a letter

from the "NSA". I said "how would you know that"? She replied, "I
know a lot of things... would you like a copy, I have one and will
mail it to you". She did... and that is how I received it. I think
Michael told her I had tried to get and put her up to calling me for
some reason.
CHARLENE: So now there is a devious scheme to steal your book.
A Mr. Zielinski is using the legal system to attempt to intimidate
you and steal your remaining book inventory, as well as seize the
reprinting rights to your self-published book: Why Johnny Can't
Come Home. John Zielinski is a published author of primarily
books on the Amish. Where, when, and under what circumstances
did you FIRST meet Mr. Zielinski?
NOREEN: This is the most OUTRAGEOUS situation yet. To think
someone would try to take control of my book inventory and the
reprint right is unthinkable, not to mention the height of cruelty.
This book is not a "big money maker". It is not a Harry Potter type
book with huge popularity. It is a book designed to tell the story of
my son, to help educate others and protect children. The revenue
keeps the expenses paid on the Johnny Gosch Foundation and this
idiot wants to try and take it from me. It is unthinkable.
CHARLENE: When did Mr. Zielinski, first call you and ask you If
you were planning on writing a book about Johnny's abduction?
NOREEN: I first met Zielinski when he called our home and asked
to do an interview. He said he was a journalist. I did the interview
just as I had with many other journalists. I didn't hear from him
again until Nov. 1999, he began calling repeatedly to my office,
asking when I was going to write my book. I told him the book was
in progress. I began writing my book in 1984.
CHARLENE: I find it odd that Mr. Zielinski contacted you and
forthrightly asked you if you were planning on covering information
about the CIA created MK-ULTRA program in your book. Why do
you think an author of Amish books would be so interested in MK-
ULTRA?

NOREEN: Zielinski had a legal issue with Sutherland Publishing
company in Iowa. There was a court trial over the rights to a book
on the Amish which Zielinski claimed to have written. Sutherland
won the case, a $25,000 judgment was placed against Zielinski and
he was banned from ever publishing another book in the State of
Iowa under his own name. I think he just wanted to "ride on the coat
tails of the Johnny Gosch case". He did ask if I was going to include
info on the MK-ULTRA. I said yes... I have a great deal of info on
it.
CHARLENE: Is it accurate to say Mr. Zielinski was impressing you
with his ability to do research, extract information and cite sources
from books in his personal library about MK-ULTRA? He surely is
no expert on MK-ULTRA. Were these books out of print, extremely
esoteric, or in some way not easily available to you other than
through him?
NOREEN: Zielinski said he had some more material on MK-
ULTRA and thought it should be included in the book. He offered
to do some research on MK-ULTRA.
CHARLENE: How much material for your book on the subject of
MK-ULTRA did he actually provide?
NOREEN: He only provided a few paragraphs in a couple chapters.
The info in those paragraphs were taken from other books written by
other authors, and I listed credit to those authors for each entry in
my book.
CHARLENE: And now he claims, in his lawsuit against you, that he
wrote the entire book for you and spent 12,000 hours on the project?
How much research time did he actually spend on your book?
NOREEN: His claims are absolutely absurd and a complete lie. I
have many witnesses to my statements and proof the book is mine.
It is a chronological account of my search for my son. It is my son,
my story and my book. He only worked a short time on the research.
I have no idea where he drummed this outrageous number of hours
he claims to have spent on the project.

CHARLENE: Can you explain the payment or other compensation
arrangement you hammered out with Mr. Zielinski, including the
remuneration he readily agreed to. Am I correct in assuming
Zielinski refused to put the agreement in writing, although you had
repeatedly requested a signed contract?
NOREEN: When Zielinski wanted to be involved in some research.
I asked him what he wanted for this. He said, "I only want my
expenses covered while I am in Des Moines". He also stated this
before 5 witnesses. He refused to sign any written agreement to this
effect. I repeatedly asked him to sign an agreement so we would be
clear on this issue. I should have thrown him out of my office right
then. But I didn't know he had such sinister plan in the back of his
mind.
CHARLENE: Mr. Zielinski arrived to work with you at the end of
May in 2000. Your book was finished and sent to the publisher in
September of 2000. You, in fact, did the layout for your book by
learning how to use the Pagemaker program on your own. Yet, Mr.
Zielinski proclaims that he did it all, he wrote the entire book, he did
the layout, and he originated the idea of doing a book on Johnny
Gosch's kidnapping in the first place. Last but not least, he claims
the book title was his idea, too. Please comment.
NOREEN: Yes, he is now going around telling anyone who will
listen that he did it all and the whole idea for the book was his. This
again is another example of an absurd lie. The book was started in
1983... within a couple months after Johnny was kidnapped....
Decades before I ever heard of Zielinski.
CHARLENE: Isn't it true, after Mr. Zielinski started working for
you he tried several times to take over the ENTIRE book project. It
got so bad that on one occasion you had to ask him to leave your
home? You warned him that you wouldn't work with him any longer
if he continued to disregard the fact that this was YOUR project and
that it was YOUR book. Is that true? Then what happened?
NOREEN: Yes, I did have to tell him to leave my home on several
occasions. He would begin to "yell and scream that he wanted me to
do something a certain way ... stating he was an expert because he

authored books on the Amish". I reminded him that it was "my son,
my story and my book and if he didn't settle down he had to get out
of my home and the project". He also on occasion would want to
"rub my back, rub my feet, saying I should let him do what he did
best". That was the last straw... I told him to get out and stay out.
There was no way I was going to put up with that type of behavior
in my own home/office.
CHARLENE: In October of 2000, you were invited to be a guest
speaker at a National Private Investigators Conference, which,
luckily for you, was to be held in your hometown of Des Moines,
Iowa. Mr. Zielinski found out about the conference and wanted to
attend as a guest, so you graciously arranged for him to attend. The
Johnny Gosh Story was slated to be the primary focus of the
conference, though not the only topic. NBC Dateline had agreed to
film the conference, which would have provided free national
publicity for your self-published book. The Johnny Gosh story
would have finally received the National attention it deserved. This
kind of prime time TV exposure had the potential to help countless
other missing children and their hapless families across America.
Knowledge is power. Your book is a powerful
tool. So I'd say this was the chance of a lifetime. But something
went terribly wrong. And that something was Mr. Zielinski. Please
explain.
NOREEN: Zielinski while sitting in the audience of this gathering
of P.I's began shouting comments to the moderator and speakers on
stage. He was told to keep quiet several times. He created a huge
disturbance and it was unfortunately being filmed by NBC Dateline.
After his asinine performance, Dateline informed me that they were
pulling out of the project and they would not do my story and I lost
any chance of National publicity for my book on TV
CHARLENE: Mr. Zielinski knowingly or unknowingly sabotaged
your golden opportunity with NBC Dateline. Yet even after that
debacle, Mr. Zielinski unexpectedly paid you a visit and presented
you with a legal document to sign--a demand letter. Wasn't he
insisting that you owed him something like $18,000? Never mind
the fact that you had already paid out-of-pocket for his living

arrangements and food during the time he worked on your book--
per a prearranged agreement! Adding insult to injury, he proceeded
to casually inform you he had a son, who will soon be graduating
from law school. And then he tells you, it was his son who had
advised him that his legal rights had been violated by you. Zielinski
continued to intimidate you into signing his spurious document,
while you firmly stood your ground and politely refused. I
understand he also asked for copies of your book (to resell) and you
graciously said okay? Didn't your husband box about a $1000 worth
(retail) of books for Mr. Zielinski that night, which he accepted?
Please elaborate.
NOREEN: Zielinski's expenses were paid by me during the few
months he was in Des Moines, I worked nights after I worked on the
book all day in order to pay his expenses, plus my own bills.
Zielinski has lied about every aspect of his involvement on this
project. He has in the past done this very thing to another individual,
John Swanson, a film/video maker. They worked together on a
video of Amish nature. Mr. Swanson was bilked for thousands of
dollars by Zielinski. Mr. Swanson has given us a full accounting of
what took place. Zielinski has made a life practice of living off of
other people. He has not held a job in 30 years... claims he is a full
time author, and it is beneath him to hold a job. He also informed
me he is invisible in this country concerning the IRS and Social
Security Administration. He has not filed or paid into SS in 30
years. I feel that now he is 62 years of age, he intended to make me
and the Johnny Gosch Foundation his "401 K plan".
CHARLENE: That's the last you had heard from Mr. Zielinski, until
out of the blue in December 2004 you got a call from your attorney
saying Mr. Zielinski is suing you and we (you and your attorney)
only have four days to respond. Wisely, you requested that your
attorney immediately ask for an extension, as a four day time frame
was out of the question. You knew it would have been impossible to
contact your witnesses, let alone prepare a defense on such short
notice. I understand your attorney told you he didn't believe you'd
get an extension and didn't want to ask for one. It was only due to
your insistence that your attorney reluctantly acquiesced and finally
got the extension. What were the key issues behind Zielinski's

lawsuit? How much was he asking for supposed damages.
NOREEN: Zielinski is now asking for $24,000 and they tried to
settle out of court for the remaining inventory and reprint rights.
That is out of the question and so is the $24,000. I lived up to my
responsibility... I paid all his expenses, food, and gave him books in
2000. Now he comes prancing in with his son the "new lawyer" and
goes after me in a law suit. I believe this is probably his son's first
case and they want to "clean up". He somehow has repeated his lies
so many times that he now believes them.
CHARLENE: Next your attorney phones to tell you Zielinski wants
to settle out of court. And this is where the story reminds me of an
episode from the Twilight Zone. Your attorney's reaction to the
settlement offer and his legal advice regarding the settlement is well,
from a layman's perspective, totally against your best interests legal
and otherwise! And that's putting it mildly. Explain the settlement
offer, and include what you told your attorney your final decision is
about Zielinski's settlement offer, and your attorney's reaction to
your decision.
NOREEN: I was very disappointed that my attorney said it was a
"good deal" to give Zielinski the remainder of all my books and the
reprint rights. The only person it is a good deal for is Zielinski... it
would but the Johnny Gosch Foundation out of business. We have
done good work for children for the past 22 years and this was build
on integrity and hard work by me. I can not and will not allow
Zielinski to that that away. My son's kidnapping should stand for
something good in this country. This is too important.
CHARLENE: Has your attorney finally seen the light?! If not-- I'd
probably fire him!
NOREEN: I am afraid he still feels the same way. I am working on
another strategy of my own.
CHARLENE: The depositions that were taken for Zielinski vs
Gosch were done on December 17th 2004. During the depositions
you presented the plaintiff's attorney with a document your husband
had prepared and Mr. Zielinski had signed in 2000. Please describe

what the document contained.
NOREEN: Zielinski's attorney was shocked when my attorney
presented the document Zielinski signed on Oct. 30, 2000 in which
he relinquished any/all rights to the book or to represent me or the
Johnny Gosch Foundation in any way. We prepared this document
and asked him to sign it after he made such an ass out of himself at
the Private Investigator's Conference. I wanted to make it clear to
him he could not go forth and represent me or the foundation in any
way shape or form.
CHARLENE: Although there are clearly similarities with Zielinski's
past M.O and what he's currently doing in your case, I also feel
there is a major distinction to be made. Books about the Amish have
a strong appeal and a strong niche following, especially illustrated
books about Amish life showcasing bucolic landscapes with horse
drawn buggies, hearth cooked food, handmade furniture and various
other Amish crafts. A professionally illustrated book about the
Amish could readily translate into a steady stream of income. Of
course, I think Zielinski was chasing after money in his previous
book/video bilking schemes. But in your case, I think his motive is
slightly different. Why Johnny Can't Come Home isn't destined to
be a big money maker (although it should be). Your excellent book
won't be on many coffee tables in America. I'd venture to say most
American's are not ready to hear about organized pedophilia, let
alone the fact that their government, some well known politicians,
the CIA, military and corporate elites are not only operating these
child, sex slave rings, but are themselves pedophiles. So I think Mr.
Zielinski has another motive here. Yeah, he's still after money, but
not by stealing the rights to your book so he can sell it retail one
book at a time. Have you considered the possibility that Mr.
Zielinski is a front man for a hidden third party that has secretly
hired Mr. Zielinski to acquire the rights to your book? This hidden
third party could agree to pay Mr. Zielinski handsomely for his
trouble, a lump sum that would garner him more money much faster
than he could ever hope to make off selling your book retail. The
payoff for the third party: They get to quash your book, to destroy it
and forever keep it from the public. Or, reprint the book and revise
it--adding disinformation, and misinformation--you get the picture.

What do you think?
NOREEN: I totally agree with you and feel this is part of a much
larger act... to permanently get my book out of circulation. The very
idea that someone could drum up a lawsuit like this is an example
why we need "reform" concerning this {U.S. legal system} in our
country. Anyone can sue anyone, forcing the defendant to hire an
attorney, pay thousands of dollars to protect/defend themselves.
This is wrong wrong and wrong. They say everyone has their price
and I feel Zielinski has been bought.
CHARLENE: In 1997 a miracle occurred. Johnny showed up at
your apartment with a friend and visited with you for several hours.
He told you he had escaped the sex-slave ring for the time being. He
confided in you, and he recounted what had actually happened to
him after his abduction; he pleaded with you to expose the people
and the organization that had harmed him and that continues to harm
many other children. What are some of the key points that Johnny
shared with you that night? Did Johnny ask you to write a book
about his kidnapping and forced participation as a sex slave in an
elite controlled pedophile ring?
NOREEN: Johnny asked me to get his story out. Soon after he left
that night, I decided to begin to put all of my journals, notes and
already written chapters into book form. The time had come to tell
Johnny's story. Johnny was here in 1997, I began within a few
weeks of his visit.... Zielinski didn't contact me until Nov. 1999
CHARLENE: My sense is that you will NEVER give up your
remaining book inventory or your reprint rights to "Why Johnny
Can't Come Home." However, if it's true that there is a third party
behind Zielinski and his transparent legal maneuver to swindle you
out of your book rights, and ultimately to suppress the Johnny
Gosch story once and for all--if that's the case, I'm sure these folks
have a huge war chest that could sustain a long, drawn out legal
battle. Unfortunately, more often than not, the one with the most
gold most often wins in our plutocratic legal system. This
institutionalized legal strategy of wearing out an opponent through
financial attrition has little to do with justice or truth. Add to this the
fact that ANYONE with BUCKS can sue anyone else for just about

any reason, real or imagined. And-- if an unscrupulous party with a
large, legal war chest brings a disingenuous legal action against a
less financially endowed party, the wealthy party will usually
prevail, because the honest party doesn't have the funds to defend
themselves in our EXPENSIVE and cumbersome legal system. This
worries me in your case. Have you considered setting up a legal
fund, perhaps through your foundation, to help sustain you in what
could be a classic David vs Goliath legal struggle. Also, any
breaking news from the legal front?
NOREEN: I am not quite sure how I am going to handle the
financial situation. I will need the money to do so... in the past I
have used most all of my personal income and revenue from the
book to continue the work for children. I believe there will have to
be some kind of "divine intervention" to make things right in this
situation. I have worked too hard for nearly 23 years.
CHARLENE: Enough is enough! Johnny, your beloved son was
brutally
taken from you at the tender age of 12 years, and now, quite
possibly, the very same elite, pedophile cabal is trying to take away
a huge part of your life story and Johnny's story, thereby censoring
what really happened to him and why. It strikes me as yet another
level of abduction-- a symbolic kidnapping of Johnny, a theft of
memory, or more accurately an attempt to erase from the "public
mind" any trace of Johnny Gosch. Talk about identity theft!
NOREEN: Yes this is the worst kind of identity theft... I still
can't believe sometimes that he was taken right out of his
neighborhood and that all this has happened and now this law suit.
I keep receiving strength to go on but even I have limits to what I
can withstand. Unfortunately, so much of this a parent of a missing
child must bear alone.
CHARLENE: Are there any closing thoughts or comments you'd
like to make? Is there anything new on the legal front?
NOREEN: At this point I don't know what is going to transpire next.
There are a number of things taking place right now and I am not
able to comment on them just yet. It all involves information we are

hoping to develop.
CHARLENE: It's my hope that everyone who reads this interview
will consider supporting you and your noble cause, as well as defray
your looming legal expenses to keep the rights to your book, by
visiting your website at: www.johnnygosch.com and buying YOUR
book or donating (or both) to the Johnny Gosch Foundation.
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