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ISSUE 5<br />
Autumn 2015<br />
Gap’s<br />
O2O Edge<br />
<strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />
• Hilti’s direct sales<br />
advantage <strong>in</strong> SE Asia<br />
• Putt<strong>in</strong>g diversity to<br />
work for clients<br />
• The agile Asian HQ<br />
• And the Jebsen Blue<br />
Girl Beer story <strong>in</strong> HK<br />
Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik,<br />
SVP & GM,<br />
Gap Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />
With the support of
EDItor’s Highlights /Content<br />
Dear Reader,<br />
Our fifth issue of CEO Dialogues tackles a broad mix of issues, all of which are top of m<strong>in</strong>d for IMA members across<br />
the region.<br />
In This Issue<br />
In our cover story, CEO Dialogues sat down with Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik, Senior VP and GM Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a of Gap to delve <strong>in</strong>to<br />
how their second mover advantage has helped drive efficient customer acquisition <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, both onl<strong>in</strong>e and<br />
offl<strong>in</strong>e.<br />
Then, we look at retention strategies through diversity <strong>in</strong> an <strong>in</strong>terview with Anthony Couse and Angela Newby,<br />
manag<strong>in</strong>g directors at JLL. They take us through how promot<strong>in</strong>g diversity has created positive material impact to<br />
their bottom l<strong>in</strong>e and corporate culture.<br />
This is followed by a discussion on what elements to consider when develop<strong>in</strong>g autonomous, accountable<br />
regional headquarters <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a with Arnold Sun, partner, EY, Shanghai.<br />
We also spoke with Gav<strong>in</strong> Gui, head of Southeast Asia for Hilti, on how they skip deal<strong>in</strong>g with distributors altogether<br />
to w<strong>in</strong> with a direct sales approach.<br />
And there is also a great story about how Jebsen built up the mega brand Blue Girl Beer <strong>in</strong> Hong Kong, told by<br />
Helmuth Hennig, manag<strong>in</strong>g director of the diversified market<strong>in</strong>g and distribution firm.<br />
Lastly, we have developed a useful <strong>in</strong>fographic that may help you when manag<strong>in</strong>g headquarters’ understand<strong>in</strong>g<br />
of how disparate and fractured the many markets of Asia really are.<br />
So, enjoy the read. CEO Dialogues will be back on deck <strong>in</strong> May next year ready for the S<strong>in</strong>gapore Overnight.<br />
Best,<br />
Richard Mart<strong>in</strong><br />
Manag<strong>in</strong>g Director<br />
IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />
Autumn 2015<br />
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TABle of Contents:<br />
2 GAP’S O2O EDGE IN CHINA<br />
5 HilTI TAKes THe DIReCT APPRoACH to AsIA<br />
7 Jll’s seCRet weAPon: DIverse teAMs<br />
9 AsIA’s COMPleXITY peRMITs few shoRTCuts<br />
10 ARE You READY TO PRIORITIse AGILITY IN ASIA?<br />
12 Jebsen & CoMPAny’s Blue GIRl Beer
COVER STORY<br />
Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik<br />
GAP’S O2O<br />
EDGE IN CHINA<br />
A second mover advantage<br />
IMA ASIA CEO DIALOGUES<br />
AUTUMN 2015<br />
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COVER STORY<br />
IMA ASIA CEO DIALOGUES<br />
AUTUMN 2015<br />
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WHEN GAP INC. ENTERED Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />
<strong>in</strong> 2010, it was considered a late<br />
entrant. Many of the US retailer’s<br />
global competitors had already set up shop with<br />
physical stores.<br />
“One of our advantages has been see<strong>in</strong>g where<br />
to go and where not to go,” says Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik,<br />
senior vice-president and general manager at<br />
Gap Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a for Gap Inc. “We have had<br />
four or five years of not mak<strong>in</strong>g the mistakes a<br />
first mover would have made.”<br />
Over-<strong>in</strong>vestment <strong>in</strong> real estate is one mistake<br />
Gap seems to have neatly sidestepped, as<br />
shopp<strong>in</strong>g malls look set for hard times ahead.<br />
Today, Gap has 136 stores <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g<br />
Old Navy, and expects to reach 160 shops by the<br />
end of the year.<br />
This is a modest number compared to other<br />
retailers <strong>in</strong> their competitive set. But the<br />
smaller bricks-and-mortar footpr<strong>in</strong>t belies a<br />
much bigger strategy by Gap.<br />
BUILDING OFFLINE AND ONLINE AT<br />
THE SAME TIME<br />
When they entered Ch<strong>in</strong>a, they took the<br />
opportunity to build their onl<strong>in</strong>e and offl<strong>in</strong>e<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>esses together. “We entered Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />
multichannel and we operate as one bus<strong>in</strong>ess,”<br />
says Malik. This was a lesson the retailer<br />
learned from the US, where the channels<br />
evolved as two parallel bus<strong>in</strong>esses and<br />
<strong>in</strong>tegration has had to come later.<br />
On the front end, it means Gap Ch<strong>in</strong>a can<br />
share product stories, promotion and events<br />
with customers seamlessly between channels<br />
<strong>in</strong>stead of deal<strong>in</strong>g with them separately. And<br />
on the backend, they benefit from a shared<br />
<strong>in</strong>ventory via a large distribution center.<br />
Gap Ch<strong>in</strong>a, much like <strong>in</strong> the US, has become<br />
an e-commerce frontrunner. But for Malik,<br />
this does not mean follow<strong>in</strong>g the US template;<br />
she is look<strong>in</strong>g keenly at what to take from<br />
headquarters and what to adapt for Ch<strong>in</strong>a.<br />
She comes to Ch<strong>in</strong>a after runn<strong>in</strong>g Gap brand’s<br />
global ecommerce channels for the US, Canada,<br />
Japan and Europe. She says that these were<br />
less complicated than juggl<strong>in</strong>g the company’s<br />
greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a configuration, a mix of directlyowned<br />
websites such as gap.cn, gap.hk, gap.<br />
tw and their platform sites, Alibaba’s Tmall and<br />
Tencent-backed JD.com.<br />
“Dom<strong>in</strong>ance of platforms is very different<br />
<strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a than <strong>in</strong> the US. One of our biggest<br />
rules of engagement has been never do<br />
anyth<strong>in</strong>g that dis<strong>in</strong>termediates yourself from<br />
the customer. When I arrived <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, one of<br />
my first comments was, “We are completely<br />
dis<strong>in</strong>termediated. Now what do we do?” says<br />
Malik.<br />
She says she switched her th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g about how<br />
to build a bus<strong>in</strong>ess and a relationship with<br />
the customer - a must when the big platform<br />
players own a lot of customer data.<br />
“We have learned to leverage the strengths of<br />
our partners while rema<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g true to our brand.<br />
What I appreciate about Tmall is we get the<br />
traffic and their scale, but you go <strong>in</strong>to a branded<br />
environment when you shop Gap. So it is a great<br />
balance for us,” expla<strong>in</strong>s Malik.<br />
The Tmall bus<strong>in</strong>ess attracts a value-driven<br />
consumer, while the more loyal customer<br />
prefers shopp<strong>in</strong>g on gap.cn. This leads to<br />
peaks and valleys on Tmall, depend<strong>in</strong>g on sales<br />
and promotions.<br />
The biggest peak comes from the runaway<br />
success of Tmall’s S<strong>in</strong>gles Day, or 11.11, which<br />
Gap has found to have a significant impact. Even<br />
though bus<strong>in</strong>ess slows before and after, Gap has<br />
made the volumes work for them and has grown<br />
sales for the event each year.<br />
Gap starts preparations 12 months <strong>in</strong> advance.<br />
Malik credits their success “to the level of<br />
assortment and market<strong>in</strong>g plann<strong>in</strong>g. We don’t<br />
let it happen to us. It is simple to th<strong>in</strong>k there is<br />
go<strong>in</strong>g to be a lot of traffic, let it come. But there<br />
is an art to it.”<br />
Accord<strong>in</strong>g to Malik, the stakes are high;<br />
recover<strong>in</strong>g volume on alternate days is almost<br />
mathematically impossible. “People have filled<br />
up their shopp<strong>in</strong>g carts and spent their money,<br />
so you have to w<strong>in</strong> on that day.”<br />
It is so big that she admits she is almost afraid<br />
of it. Nobody wants a bus<strong>in</strong>ess to become<br />
dependent on one day. But important <strong>in</strong>sights<br />
<strong>in</strong>to Ch<strong>in</strong>ese consumer behaviour, gleaned <strong>in</strong><br />
part from work<strong>in</strong>g with platforms like Tmall, are<br />
feed<strong>in</strong>g other aspects of the bus<strong>in</strong>ess.<br />
“One of the th<strong>in</strong>gs we have done well, that<br />
we have to do a lot better, is us<strong>in</strong>g that desire<br />
customers have to play a game whether it be
COVER STORY<br />
onl<strong>in</strong>e or wherever,” says Malik. “We get a lot of<br />
engagement when there is gam<strong>in</strong>g and a sense of<br />
fun that’s also on brand.”<br />
She po<strong>in</strong>ts to Gap’s public cast<strong>in</strong>g call to f<strong>in</strong>d the<br />
next face for their kids/baby campaign, which<br />
attracted huge attention <strong>in</strong> Shanghai, as an<br />
example of leverag<strong>in</strong>g game elements on social<br />
media. Parents posted their children’s photo, a<br />
popular practice <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, and people voted for the<br />
w<strong>in</strong>ner.<br />
Digital coupons that reveal prizes when scratched<br />
onl<strong>in</strong>e, often used dur<strong>in</strong>g special holidays like Qixi<br />
(Ch<strong>in</strong>ese Valent<strong>in</strong>e’s Day) are successful because<br />
they appeal to a customer’s desire to have fun.<br />
Malik is also th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g deeply about brand loyalty,<br />
harder to secure as the field gets more crowded.<br />
has developed successfully elsewhere.<br />
“If you do not put a lot of <strong>in</strong>telligence beh<strong>in</strong>d it<br />
and you just light up <strong>in</strong>ventory and have it<br />
operationally execute, you can actually end up<br />
los<strong>in</strong>g money <strong>in</strong> the shipp<strong>in</strong>g cost or with different<br />
prices and promotions <strong>in</strong> different parts of your<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>ess,” says Malik. “I am look<strong>in</strong>g at us<strong>in</strong>g<br />
a more ref<strong>in</strong>ed algorithm com<strong>in</strong>g from North<br />
America to do that.”<br />
But <strong>in</strong> terms of social media and a mobile-first<br />
strategy, the only place to look is at Ch<strong>in</strong>a itself.<br />
And <strong>in</strong> these areas, the rapid pace is relentless.<br />
“Just last year <strong>in</strong> the US, we were talk<strong>in</strong>g about<br />
how everyth<strong>in</strong>g should be mobile first. That<br />
conversation <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a happened three years ago,”<br />
says Malik. Even <strong>in</strong> the last few years, there have<br />
“THE CUSTOMER MOVES SO FAST that traditional<br />
consumer <strong>in</strong>sights every six to twelve months is pretty irrelevant,”<br />
says Malik.<br />
She says she is currently formulat<strong>in</strong>g a way to go<br />
much further than they have before, not just with<br />
discounts or bounce backs, but to provide unique<br />
exclusives for the loyal consumer.<br />
But she won’t be rush<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> bl<strong>in</strong>dly. Her approach<br />
is to cont<strong>in</strong>ue to leverage their second mover<br />
advantage. This means not haphazardly go<strong>in</strong>g<br />
live with new <strong>in</strong>itiatives - and be<strong>in</strong>g stuck with<br />
attempt<strong>in</strong>g to tweak changes once onl<strong>in</strong>e - but<br />
paus<strong>in</strong>g to th<strong>in</strong>k about what makes the relationship<br />
with the consumer sticky and do<strong>in</strong>g rigorous<br />
test<strong>in</strong>g before roll<strong>in</strong>g out new <strong>in</strong>itiatives.<br />
been radical shifts. “When I first visited Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />
three years ago, everybody was talk<strong>in</strong>g about<br />
Weibo; now, everybody is talk<strong>in</strong>g about Wechat.”<br />
Malik f<strong>in</strong>ds herself fasc<strong>in</strong>ated by how much time<br />
people spend on their phone.<br />
“It is real communication that can turn <strong>in</strong>to<br />
commerce that happens here. I still don’t<br />
see mean<strong>in</strong>gful <strong>in</strong>tegration of Facebook <strong>in</strong>to<br />
commerce, of <strong>in</strong>stagram <strong>in</strong>to commerce, of<br />
P<strong>in</strong>terest <strong>in</strong>to commerce. But Wechat has<br />
<strong>in</strong>tegrated it.”<br />
ADDING EASE, EXPERIENCE AND EMOTION<br />
“There are a lot of sh<strong>in</strong>y new co<strong>in</strong>s. You have to be<br />
very careful about which ones actually add ease,<br />
experience and emotion to the customer versus<br />
it be<strong>in</strong>g a gimmick or a good idea, but not really<br />
be<strong>in</strong>g very well thought through,” she says.<br />
She po<strong>in</strong>ts to the latest onl<strong>in</strong>e-to-offl<strong>in</strong>e (O2O)<br />
craze around shipp<strong>in</strong>g product from stores to<br />
consumers who purchased onl<strong>in</strong>e, a service Gap<br />
This is one area where Malik is not hold<strong>in</strong>g back,<br />
but rather ramp<strong>in</strong>g up to boost Gap’s consumer<br />
<strong>in</strong>sights abilities. “The customer moves so fast that<br />
traditional consumer <strong>in</strong>sights every six to twelve<br />
months is pretty irrelevant,” she says.<br />
“The consumer is the only place to go to figure<br />
out the future, because they are fast. If I could<br />
exaggerate, I would say this is an entire country of<br />
first movers and first adopters.” n<br />
IMA ASIA CEO DIALOGUES<br />
AUTUMN 2015<br />
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Hilti takes the<br />
direct approach<br />
to Asia<br />
Gav<strong>in</strong> Gui<br />
IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />
Autumn 2015<br />
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To paraphrase a common say<strong>in</strong>g, great<br />
th<strong>in</strong>gs come from small packages. A case<br />
<strong>in</strong> po<strong>in</strong>t is Hilti. A market leader <strong>in</strong> premium<br />
power tools and fasteners for construction<br />
professionals, Hilti is headquartered <strong>in</strong> the t<strong>in</strong>y<br />
pr<strong>in</strong>cipality of Liechtenste<strong>in</strong>, where they first got<br />
their start <strong>in</strong> 1941.<br />
Com<strong>in</strong>g from a landlocked position <strong>in</strong> the Alps has<br />
not stopped Hilti from becom<strong>in</strong>g a global company<br />
with 22,000 employees worldwide. This familyowned<br />
firm has become accustomed to go<strong>in</strong>g their<br />
own way.<br />
Nowhere is this more evident than <strong>in</strong> their<br />
commitment to the direct sales model. It is an<br />
approach that few companies take when enter<strong>in</strong>g<br />
emerg<strong>in</strong>g markets, opt<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stead for rapid topl<strong>in</strong>e<br />
growth with the aid of local distributors and<br />
partners.<br />
But built over decades, Hilti views its direct<br />
sales model as <strong>in</strong>tegral part of their competitive<br />
advantage and have found it to be the source of their<br />
success <strong>in</strong> emerg<strong>in</strong>g and developed markets alike.<br />
Direct sales, a competitive advantage<br />
“The beauty of direct sales is the customer<br />
relationship. We effectively demonstrate our value<br />
proposition, but also feed back our customers’<br />
needs to our R&D team to come out with the next<br />
wave of new products,” expla<strong>in</strong>s Gav<strong>in</strong> Gui, head of<br />
Southeast Asia for Hilti.<br />
The direct sales model is people-<strong>in</strong>tensive. Gui<br />
oversees a team of 1,000 <strong>in</strong> Southeast Asia, about<br />
one-third of the overall headcount <strong>in</strong> Asia.<br />
These boots on the ground consist of a well-tra<strong>in</strong>ed<br />
army of sales people. Beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g their day <strong>in</strong> a Hilti<br />
red car, they are often equipped with the latest<br />
client relationship management (CRM) system on<br />
smartphones, mak<strong>in</strong>g six to ten visits per day to<br />
clients at construction sites.<br />
“Much of our direct sales model is through peer<br />
<strong>in</strong>teraction to build the relationship on the job site,<br />
we demonstrate our product value, lett<strong>in</strong>g people<br />
see how different our products and services are<br />
from other competitors,” expla<strong>in</strong>s Gui.<br />
To cover this cost, Hilti is able to price its <strong>in</strong>novative<br />
products — which set <strong>in</strong>dustry benchmarks <strong>in</strong> terms<br />
of performance, safety and productivity — at a<br />
substantially higher price than competitors.<br />
“To make the direct sales model work susta<strong>in</strong>ably,<br />
we have to demand a premium that comes from our<br />
better service, better product and better customer<br />
engagement,” says Gui. “We must have premium;<br />
otherwise, we can’t be successful.”<br />
Attract<strong>in</strong>g and reta<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g the best<br />
To stay at the top, Hilti’s success h<strong>in</strong>ges on its<br />
people. The company has developed an impressive<br />
culture and talent management system.<br />
While the official mission statement of Hilti covers<br />
<strong>in</strong>tegrity, commitment, courage and teamwork<br />
as the company’s bywords, Gui says it goes even<br />
deeper than that: perform<strong>in</strong>g a delicate balanc<strong>in</strong>g<br />
act between a family-owned company that really<br />
cares for its people with a performance oriented<br />
culture that demands excellence <strong>in</strong> return.<br />
On the one hand, “we want to outperform the<br />
market, and be number one <strong>in</strong> our field” says Gui.<br />
But “we cont<strong>in</strong>uously <strong>in</strong>vest to reta<strong>in</strong> our sales force,
avoid<strong>in</strong>g job cuts for short term performance” <strong>in</strong><br />
the down times. He emphasises that Hilti has a<br />
long-term vision that public companies are often<br />
unable to ma<strong>in</strong>ta<strong>in</strong>.<br />
A culture of coach<strong>in</strong>g permeates the entire<br />
organisation, start<strong>in</strong>g with sales. On a regular<br />
basis, sales managers sit side-by-side with<br />
salespeople <strong>in</strong> the field, work<strong>in</strong>g together to<br />
discuss what tactics are work<strong>in</strong>g and identify<br />
areas for improvement.<br />
In fact, all managers undertake professional<br />
coach<strong>in</strong>g tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g and are adept at ask<strong>in</strong>g<br />
open-ended questions to spark <strong>in</strong>sight and<br />
progress. Gui dedicates every Monday afternoon<br />
to coach<strong>in</strong>g his team, but says, “for me, it is<br />
teach<strong>in</strong>g how to fish, <strong>in</strong>stead of fish<strong>in</strong>g.”<br />
It is common for Hilti to receive hundreds of<br />
applications for every job open<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Asia, and<br />
they rema<strong>in</strong> highly selective. “Our philosophy is<br />
to choose the right people rather than hire a lot<br />
of people and see who performs,” says Gui.<br />
Given the firm’s heavy <strong>in</strong>vestment <strong>in</strong> tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g,<br />
this makes sense. Dur<strong>in</strong>g onboard<strong>in</strong>g, new<br />
hires are sent to a Hilti tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g center <strong>in</strong> the<br />
Philipp<strong>in</strong>es for a week to experience a Hilti<br />
‘Culture Journey’, and, most importantly,<br />
experience the tools firsthand, ideally fall<strong>in</strong>g<br />
<strong>in</strong> love with Hilti products. This is the same<br />
for eng<strong>in</strong>eers and sales as it is for the<br />
adm<strong>in</strong>istrative personnel <strong>in</strong> f<strong>in</strong>ance or HR.<br />
New hires are not just given detailed handbooks,<br />
but are <strong>in</strong>formed what skills need to be<br />
mastered by a given day and what assessments<br />
will be required. There is ongo<strong>in</strong>g onsite and<br />
offsite tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g so employees are supported to be<br />
<strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>gly more capable <strong>in</strong> their roles.<br />
Still, attract<strong>in</strong>g top talent <strong>in</strong> Asia is not always<br />
easy. To counter this, executive leaders from<br />
the Chairman and CEO level on down work<br />
collaboratively with top bus<strong>in</strong>ess schools, from<br />
Ts<strong>in</strong>ghua University <strong>in</strong> Beij<strong>in</strong>g to the Asian<br />
campus of INSEAD, to guarantee a pipel<strong>in</strong>e of<br />
future leaders. An ‘outperformer program’<br />
fast tracks top graduates with high potential<br />
to be bus<strong>in</strong>ess unit (BU) heads or general<br />
managers (GM).<br />
Gui is himself an example of how Hilti grooms<br />
talent. Initially brought onboard as Hong<br />
Kong GM three years ago, the path was laid<br />
out for him to take on the leadership role <strong>in</strong><br />
Southeast Asia he has today.<br />
All this <strong>in</strong>vestment <strong>in</strong> people gives Hilti<br />
remarkable control of its culture – and helps to<br />
back up its expectations of <strong>in</strong>tegrity. “We have<br />
very high standards of <strong>in</strong>tegrity about the way<br />
we do bus<strong>in</strong>ess <strong>in</strong> emerg<strong>in</strong>g countries,” says<br />
Gui. “Sometimes we have to walk away from the<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>ess because of our high standards.”<br />
While Hilti is <strong>in</strong>flexible on <strong>in</strong>tegrity, there is<br />
recognition that Southeast Asia is a diverse<br />
territory – a comb<strong>in</strong>ation of different cultures,<br />
different markets all at different stages of<br />
development – and there is some flexibility<br />
allowed <strong>in</strong> strategy.<br />
For very emerg<strong>in</strong>g markets with lower<br />
construction standards, Hilti has been known to<br />
get a foothold with distributors. This is how they<br />
first entered Vietnam, before switch<strong>in</strong>g over to<br />
direct sales a few years ago, and is the approach<br />
they are tak<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Myanmar and Sri Lanka.<br />
“We have to differentiate market to market,”<br />
says Gui. “We keep our strong culture, that<br />
should not change, but we utilise our strengths.<br />
Each market differs depend<strong>in</strong>g on the stage.<br />
There is no s<strong>in</strong>gle Asia strategy.”<br />
tHe latest trend <strong>in</strong> direct sales:<br />
e-commerce<br />
Although the direct sales model has over 200<br />
years history, it has not changed much s<strong>in</strong>ce<br />
the advent of the catalog, that is until its latest<br />
iteration, which promises to be highly disruptive:<br />
e-commerce.<br />
Hilti has not failed to make this aspect of the<br />
direct sales model work for them as well. In<br />
some markets, 25% to nearly 50% <strong>in</strong> revenues<br />
come from onl<strong>in</strong>e.<br />
But sell<strong>in</strong>g onl<strong>in</strong>e is not <strong>in</strong>tended to replace<br />
the all-important customer relationship or the<br />
physical demonstration of product superiority. It<br />
has been designed for the convenience of loyal<br />
customers, to keep up with product <strong>in</strong>novations<br />
and to make repeat orders, enhanc<strong>in</strong>g<br />
productivity and efficiency.<br />
The next step will be to use technology to<br />
pay greater attention to a customer’s unique<br />
needs and provide more tailored one-on-one<br />
services onl<strong>in</strong>e. So even for the people-<strong>in</strong>tensive<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>ess, – e-commerce beckons. “Digitisation<br />
is the future for our company,” says Gui. n<br />
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JLL’s secret<br />
weapon:<br />
diverse teams<br />
Angela Newby<br />
Most people will agree diversity is<br />
a good th<strong>in</strong>g. It is clearly the right th<strong>in</strong>g<br />
to do, and there is plenty of research to<br />
support that it leads to better bus<strong>in</strong>ess results.<br />
But how many firms move past the platitudes,<br />
dig deep and really start to do the often messy<br />
work of implement<strong>in</strong>g change?<br />
where they are chas<strong>in</strong>g the ris<strong>in</strong>g local firms as<br />
much as MNC clients. And MNCs, whether they<br />
are <strong>in</strong> S<strong>in</strong>gapore or Mumbai, are also largely<br />
comprised of local employees.<br />
This has meant the composition of JLL’s clientfac<strong>in</strong>g<br />
teams has also had to change.<br />
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Last year, JLL Asia Pacific decided it was time<br />
to commit to mov<strong>in</strong>g the needle on diversity.<br />
“The challenge for us is that we do make<br />
progress, and not just talk about it,” said Angela<br />
Newby, JLL manag<strong>in</strong>g director of transaction<br />
management, Asia Pacific<br />
This has meant dedicat<strong>in</strong>g resources, and<br />
“gett<strong>in</strong>g some of our best-<strong>in</strong>-class people <strong>in</strong><br />
work<strong>in</strong>g groups to effect change,” added Anthony<br />
Couse, manag<strong>in</strong>g director, East Ch<strong>in</strong>a for JLL.<br />
“To try and say we are go<strong>in</strong>g to crack diversity <strong>in</strong><br />
a year is not realistic. This is a very long journey.<br />
It is chang<strong>in</strong>g culture and that does not happen<br />
overnight.”<br />
For Jll, which has over 250 years history beh<strong>in</strong>d<br />
it, diversity has become more than a strategic<br />
priority; it is an <strong>in</strong>tegral part of their value system.<br />
They face a tougher uphill battle than most.<br />
Diversity <strong>in</strong> the corporate real estate <strong>in</strong>dustry<br />
has, <strong>in</strong> Asia Pacific and elsewhere, lagged<br />
beh<strong>in</strong>d other <strong>in</strong>dustries. Property owners have<br />
historically been male, and <strong>in</strong> some places<br />
mostly white, and so have the bus<strong>in</strong>ess people<br />
who sought real estate services. Of course, this<br />
is no longer the case.<br />
JLL’s customers have changed, particularly<br />
<strong>in</strong> markets such as India, Ch<strong>in</strong>a and Japan,<br />
“It is <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g how quickly diversity has gone<br />
to the top of m<strong>in</strong>d of a lot of people,” said Couse.<br />
“We are see<strong>in</strong>g much more diverse pitch teams.<br />
We look at what the client wants and put diverse<br />
teams <strong>in</strong> play.”<br />
Diversity shakes up the status quo,<br />
strengthens creativity<br />
Beyond hav<strong>in</strong>g a greater understand<strong>in</strong>g of the<br />
client, diverse teams are a great way to burst<br />
groupth<strong>in</strong>k and the stultify<strong>in</strong>g status quo that<br />
occurs when too many like-m<strong>in</strong>ded people get<br />
together and ‘s<strong>in</strong>g to the choir.’<br />
“When we put diverse teams, male, female,<br />
local, expatriate, whatever <strong>in</strong> front of our clients,<br />
we get a much higher perform<strong>in</strong>g team with<br />
different op<strong>in</strong>ions and different views. We get<br />
much more creativity and <strong>in</strong>novative solutions<br />
out of diverse teams,” says Couse.<br />
This corresponds with the research. In terms<br />
of sales, the American Sociological Association<br />
found that for every 1% rise <strong>in</strong> the rate of gender<br />
and ethnic diversity with<strong>in</strong> a sales team, there is<br />
a 3% to 9% <strong>in</strong>crease <strong>in</strong> sales revenue.<br />
But gett<strong>in</strong>g to the stage of hav<strong>in</strong>g the talent<br />
available is a big part of the challenge. On the<br />
one hand, there is a need for diversity – which is<br />
say<strong>in</strong>g the right people are not there and go<strong>in</strong>g
out and f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g them. On the other, there is a<br />
need for <strong>in</strong>clusion – f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g that the people are<br />
there, but not engaged.<br />
In terms of hir<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>take, JLL could easily decide<br />
to pat itself on the back. In Ch<strong>in</strong>a, for example,<br />
they hire 65% female employees. But when they<br />
exam<strong>in</strong>e the composition of their directors, it<br />
whittles down to the less than ideal 30% female.<br />
“If you look at JLL, our offices are very diverse <strong>in</strong><br />
race and culture. In many locations, we are 85%<br />
local. It is not to say that culture differences and<br />
other dimensions of diversity aren’t important,<br />
but gender is the big rock we need to move right<br />
now,” says Couse. JLL do not claim to have<br />
all the answers and Couse says he is work<strong>in</strong>g<br />
to better understand why there is so much<br />
dashboard that allows leaders to check-<strong>in</strong><br />
regularly to measure progress. The dashboard<br />
<strong>in</strong> Sydney can and should look different than the<br />
dashboard <strong>in</strong> Shanghai.<br />
The dashboard <strong>in</strong>corporates a set of key<br />
performance <strong>in</strong>dicators (KPIs) to track measures<br />
such as gender by country and corporate grade;<br />
hires and leavers by gender, corporate grade and<br />
country; and promotions by gender and country.<br />
The action plan be<strong>in</strong>g implemented <strong>in</strong>cludes<br />
diversity <strong>in</strong>telligence leadership tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g – with<br />
an emphasis on understand<strong>in</strong>g and break<strong>in</strong>g<br />
unconscious bias. This <strong>in</strong>cludes a mentor<strong>in</strong>g<br />
program for senior female leaders, a diversity kit<br />
for managers expla<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g the basics and possibly<br />
most importantly, says Couse, flexible work<br />
“When we put diverse teams, male, female, local, expatriate, whatever <strong>in</strong> front of<br />
our clients, we get a much higher perform<strong>in</strong>g team with different op<strong>in</strong>ions and different views.<br />
We get much more creativity and <strong>in</strong>novative<br />
solutions out of diverse teams,” says Couse.<br />
Anthony Couse<br />
attrition of female leaders <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a. Unlike<br />
western countries, Ch<strong>in</strong>ese women are likely to<br />
have one child and they have family to rely on,<br />
with grandparents pull<strong>in</strong>g together to take on<br />
childcare duties.<br />
The piLLars: culture, visibility, talent<br />
and employee benefits<br />
In Asia Pacific, JLL is focus<strong>in</strong>g on four pillars –<br />
the culture and its impact on diversity; the need<br />
for mak<strong>in</strong>g diversity visible; build<strong>in</strong>g talent for<br />
the future; and employee benefits, check<strong>in</strong>g to<br />
ensure that the right benefits and procedures<br />
support the diversity agenda.<br />
Guided by the pillars, says Newby, they then take<br />
a tailored approach with<strong>in</strong> each country. Local<br />
autonomy to decide what works is a key facet to the<br />
exercise. This shows an understand<strong>in</strong>g that culture<br />
rarely changes when mandated from on high.<br />
At the start of the process, the APAC Diversity<br />
and Inclusion Group worked with an external<br />
facilitator to put together a plan with key<br />
milestones. Instead of sett<strong>in</strong>g targets or<br />
quotas, they are design<strong>in</strong>g a diversity-<strong>in</strong>clusion<br />
practices that will allow both men and women to<br />
reach their potential <strong>in</strong> the bus<strong>in</strong>ess.<br />
Change is on the way<br />
“As a female <strong>in</strong> commercial real estate services<br />
for over 20 years, I am pleasantly surprised<br />
how many women are choos<strong>in</strong>g to enter the<br />
profession,” says Newby. She says now her focus<br />
is on the <strong>in</strong>clusive challenge to get more of those<br />
women <strong>in</strong>to leadership roles.<br />
Her male colleagues have shown great<br />
enthusiasm for diversity and <strong>in</strong>clusion <strong>in</strong>itiatives,<br />
another welcome surprise. “There has been a<br />
real m<strong>in</strong>d shift from male colleagues about how<br />
important this is, not just as the right th<strong>in</strong>g to do,<br />
but how much more bus<strong>in</strong>ess will be generated<br />
from this.”<br />
“We have really gone out on the front foot on<br />
this to make diversity a differentiator,” added<br />
Couse. “I th<strong>in</strong>k an equally important part of it<br />
is what our clients expect. They are expect<strong>in</strong>g<br />
diverse teams to work together with them to<br />
br<strong>in</strong>g more creative, <strong>in</strong>novative solutions to their<br />
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Asia’s COMPLEXITY<br />
PErmits few shorTCuts<br />
Don’t become a victim to HQ’s tunnel vision. AP’s attractive<br />
growth rates can lead to high expectations but it has never paid to<br />
underestimate the complexity of our region.<br />
When sett<strong>in</strong>g direction, the challenges of manag<strong>in</strong>g Asia needs to be<br />
put alongside goal sett<strong>in</strong>g and strategy, not after the fact. Our region<br />
may be the fastest grow<strong>in</strong>g, but it is also more diverse requir<strong>in</strong>g higher<br />
operat<strong>in</strong>g costs than any other.<br />
Asia is big.<br />
AP heads can spend a lot more time <strong>in</strong> the air than their regional counterparts <strong>in</strong> North America or Europe.<br />
Flight times demonstrate the span of control challenge <strong>in</strong> our region.<br />
EurOPE<br />
North AMEriCA<br />
Asia/Pacific<br />
Sydney to Delhi –<br />
14hrs 50m<strong>in</strong><br />
(via S<strong>in</strong>gapore)<br />
Mexico City to Vancouver – 5hrs 50m<strong>in</strong><br />
LA to NY – 5 hours<br />
Rome to Stockholm – 4 hours<br />
London to Istanbul – 3hrs 50m<strong>in</strong><br />
Sydney to Tokyo – 9hrs 50 m<strong>in</strong><br />
S<strong>in</strong>gapore to Tokyo – 7 hours<br />
New Delhi to Tokyo – 7 hours<br />
Asia LACks a COMMOn regionAL MArkET.<br />
In 2012, Asia Pacific accounted for 30.5% of global GDP. But there is no s<strong>in</strong>gle Asian market. It is a fragmented<br />
group of nations, some high <strong>in</strong>come others low, each requir<strong>in</strong>g their own country level operations. It is hard to build<br />
economies of scale <strong>in</strong> the region just as it is challeng<strong>in</strong>g to move staff from one country to the next.<br />
11.3% 8.3% 3.1% 2.6% 2.3% 1.6% 0.6% 0.4%<br />
Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />
Japan<br />
India<br />
hk<br />
ASEAN<br />
(and this must split <strong>in</strong>to<br />
6 countries)<br />
Australia/NZ<br />
Korea<br />
Taiwan<br />
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Are you ready to<br />
prioritise agility<br />
<strong>in</strong> Asia?<br />
The rise of the autonomous, accountable<br />
regional headquarters<br />
Arnold Sun<br />
In Asia’s fast grow<strong>in</strong>g economies, the one<br />
constant managers have counted on has been<br />
rapid change. But the trajectory of change has<br />
hit a startl<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>flection po<strong>in</strong>t. As positive numbers<br />
decelerate, the days of easy growth <strong>in</strong> our region are<br />
beh<strong>in</strong>d us. Ch<strong>in</strong>a is a major factor, as the country<br />
retools, trad<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> its low-cost manufactur<strong>in</strong>g,<br />
export-driven past for a sh<strong>in</strong>y new high-value,<br />
consumer-driven economy.<br />
The good news is this new pool of consumers offers the<br />
best chance at growth over the next decade.<br />
emerg<strong>in</strong>g markets demands an <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g level of<br />
autonomy at the local level.<br />
“The pace of change and <strong>in</strong>tensify<strong>in</strong>g competition<br />
means that companies have to prioritise agility,” says<br />
the EY study. “We believe that companies need to<br />
give local management autonomy over key bus<strong>in</strong>ess<br />
decisions, but with<strong>in</strong> a carefully def<strong>in</strong>ed framework.”<br />
Location, location, location<br />
When sett<strong>in</strong>g up a RHQ, one of the first discussions is<br />
around where to locate.<br />
By 2017 emerg<strong>in</strong>g Asia will account for one-quarter of<br />
the global consumer products market and generate<br />
38% of total consumer products <strong>in</strong>crease, accord<strong>in</strong>g to<br />
a recent study by EY.<br />
The bad news is mult<strong>in</strong>ational firms now have much<br />
more competition from local players, both private- and<br />
state-owned firms, that are chas<strong>in</strong>g these consumers<br />
with fresh <strong>in</strong>sights and <strong>in</strong>novative bus<strong>in</strong>ess models,<br />
often at a lower cost.<br />
How <strong>in</strong>ternational firms structure themselves to<br />
respond to the region’s volatility will ultimately<br />
determ<strong>in</strong>e who will succeed over the long term.<br />
Try<strong>in</strong>g to f<strong>in</strong>d that happy medium between global<br />
excellence — best practice and processes — and<br />
between local agility — <strong>in</strong>sight and entrepreneurship —<br />
is not a new dilemma.<br />
Too much centralisation means that regional or<br />
global managers sit too far away from consumers and<br />
local relevance is sacrificed. Too much localisation<br />
and duplication creeps <strong>in</strong>, erod<strong>in</strong>g profitability and<br />
<strong>in</strong>troduc<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>efficiency.<br />
Draw<strong>in</strong>g on the examples of high performers and their<br />
own <strong>in</strong>sights from work<strong>in</strong>g with clients <strong>in</strong> the region<br />
EY has found that the volatility and diversity of the Asia<br />
Taxes, human resources, <strong>in</strong>frastructure and proximity<br />
to the consumer are all factors to be considered when<br />
determ<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g a location for RHQ. While S<strong>in</strong>gapore has<br />
been a popular hub to manage ASEAN markets, EY has<br />
identified Malaysia as an attractive alternative, po<strong>in</strong>t<strong>in</strong>g<br />
to the government’s Invest KL program and plentiful<br />
human capital – mak<strong>in</strong>g it ideal for people-<strong>in</strong>tensive<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>esses.<br />
Ch<strong>in</strong>a-for-Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />
Many firms are adopt<strong>in</strong>g a Ch<strong>in</strong>a-for-Ch<strong>in</strong>a approach.<br />
Given the sheer size of its contribution to many firms’<br />
global revenues and the difficulty to transfer funds<br />
outside its borders, Ch<strong>in</strong>a is becom<strong>in</strong>g its own RHQ.<br />
This leads to a tw<strong>in</strong> regional hub strategy: one <strong>in</strong><br />
Shanghai to cover Ch<strong>in</strong>a and North Asia; another to<br />
cover South Asia.<br />
CEO Dialogues spoke with Arnold Sun, EY partner <strong>in</strong><br />
the Shanghai office who has observed the trend firsthand.<br />
He has found that “many more regional HQ are<br />
be<strong>in</strong>g built out of the Ch<strong>in</strong>a marketplace across a wide<br />
spectrum of <strong>in</strong>dustries.”<br />
When giv<strong>in</strong>g more autonomy, he po<strong>in</strong>ts to several ways<br />
firms are mak<strong>in</strong>g it work.<br />
Greater autonomy to deliver local needs<br />
When foster<strong>in</strong>g local autonomy, it is important to set<br />
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appropriate authorisations, determ<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g what decisions<br />
are made at HQ and what is left <strong>in</strong> the hands of the<br />
regional headquarters.<br />
“It is important to strike the balance between the need<br />
for autonomy and the mitigation of associated risks,”<br />
expla<strong>in</strong>s Sun.<br />
For human capital and fund<strong>in</strong>g decisions, there are<br />
many creative ways to design different layers, or<br />
thresholds, to manage risk. For example, decisions<br />
over a certa<strong>in</strong> amount or scalability – such as over $50<br />
million or $100 million – the decision reverts to global.<br />
Anyth<strong>in</strong>g under that amount is a decision taken by RHQ.<br />
An EY study found that high perform<strong>in</strong>g companies<br />
are giv<strong>in</strong>g greater autonomy on decisions such as<br />
choos<strong>in</strong>g suppliers, product development, brand<strong>in</strong>g,<br />
choice of channels or route to market decisions, and<br />
product range.<br />
To a slightly lesser extent, local managers are also<br />
be<strong>in</strong>g granted autonomy around sett<strong>in</strong>g targets and<br />
key performance <strong>in</strong>dicators (KPIs), form<strong>in</strong>g local<br />
partnerships and alliances, supply cha<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>vestment and<br />
headcount changes.<br />
level — to adapt swiftly to local market needs — is<br />
lost if economies of scale are sought at the expense of<br />
forsak<strong>in</strong>g value to customers.<br />
Increas<strong>in</strong>gly non-core activities such as supply<br />
cha<strong>in</strong>, strategic analysis and market research and<br />
even parts of sales and market<strong>in</strong>g such as tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />
are mov<strong>in</strong>g to regional shared service centers. This<br />
leaves the customer fac<strong>in</strong>g parts of the bus<strong>in</strong>ess free<br />
to concentrate on deliver<strong>in</strong>g higher value work that<br />
requires customer proximity or local knowledge.<br />
But true cluster<strong>in</strong>g goes beyond geographic boundaries.<br />
Instead of go<strong>in</strong>g after economies of scale, Sun suggests<br />
consider<strong>in</strong>g economies of scope This approach looks<br />
for creative solutions that can be shared and adapted<br />
between countries and regions, leverag<strong>in</strong>g similarities<br />
rather than just allow<strong>in</strong>g for differences.<br />
Firms are beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g to realise that the high-end<br />
Shanghai consumer may have more <strong>in</strong> common<br />
with high-end consumers <strong>in</strong> Paris or London, rather<br />
than consumers <strong>in</strong> other Ch<strong>in</strong>ese markets. Or that<br />
the emerg<strong>in</strong>g market consumer <strong>in</strong> Asia, Africa and<br />
Lat<strong>in</strong> America may have certa<strong>in</strong> characteristics <strong>in</strong><br />
common.<br />
To make autonomy work, the right processes need to be <strong>in</strong><br />
place, consistent with global standards but still permitt<strong>in</strong>g<br />
flexibility. Local autonomy does not mean local execution.<br />
Managers should take full advantage of standardised and<br />
centralised resources to support them.<br />
A holistic approach will set performance <strong>in</strong>dicators to<br />
properly <strong>in</strong>centivise the high performance teams needed<br />
to deliver locally relevant decisions. While determ<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />
the governance structure between RHQ and HQ cannot<br />
be overlooked. In some cases, firms are putt<strong>in</strong>g their<br />
local CEO – the Ch<strong>in</strong>a bus<strong>in</strong>ess head – as part of the<br />
global executive team.<br />
“When go<strong>in</strong>g with a Ch<strong>in</strong>a regional HQ, there has to be a<br />
clear rationale about what the value creation the RHQ can<br />
really develop to the subord<strong>in</strong>at<strong>in</strong>g markets,” says Sun.<br />
Cluster<strong>in</strong>g to leverage global capabilities<br />
Part of that value comes from cost sav<strong>in</strong>gs found<br />
when regional management, f<strong>in</strong>ance, HR and IT are all<br />
brought under one roof. This is typically the first step<br />
<strong>in</strong> a regionalisation strategy, crucial to avoid wasteful<br />
duplication of effort.<br />
But the ma<strong>in</strong> po<strong>in</strong>t of greater autonomy at the local<br />
“Whenever th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g of bus<strong>in</strong>ess expansion, almost<br />
always the first th<strong>in</strong>g is your customer focus:<br />
who are the customers and what are their unique<br />
characteristics,” says Sun, who urges companies<br />
to ref<strong>in</strong>e the customer segmentation along with the<br />
evolv<strong>in</strong>g dynamics of the Ch<strong>in</strong>a market.<br />
Sun relates his experience <strong>in</strong> an <strong>in</strong>terior Ch<strong>in</strong>ese city<br />
with a population of 1.5 million. Urban residents <strong>in</strong> and<br />
near the city centre shared more consumer preferences<br />
with consumers <strong>in</strong> first tier cities than they did with<br />
their neighbours <strong>in</strong> the rural suburbs. The differences<br />
veered between traditional and modern trade, requir<strong>in</strong>g<br />
different products and adapt<strong>in</strong>g to different preferred<br />
modes of payment.<br />
“There is no longer a s<strong>in</strong>gle way to look at tier 1, tier<br />
2, or tier 3,” says Sun. His clients have used their<br />
local autonomy to reorganise, <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g restructur<strong>in</strong>g<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>ess units (BUs), to respond to the new consumer<br />
segmented reality.<br />
By br<strong>in</strong>g<strong>in</strong>g a firm’s focus to bear on consumer<br />
segmentation, MNCs can take advantage of both<br />
worlds: they can at once be sensitive to local needs, yet<br />
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<strong>in</strong>tended to be a substitute for detailed research or the exercise of professional judgment. Member firms of the global EY<br />
organisation cannot accept responsibility for loss to any person rely<strong>in</strong>g on this article.
JEBSEN &<br />
COMPANY’S<br />
BLUE GIRL<br />
BEER<br />
How a German product brewed <strong>in</strong><br />
Korea became the market leader<br />
<strong>in</strong> Hong Kong<br />
Helmuth Hennig<br />
BEGINNING AS a shipp<strong>in</strong>g agency<br />
<strong>in</strong> the late 19th century, Jebsen<br />
& Company developed <strong>in</strong>to a<br />
market<strong>in</strong>g and distribution firm operat<strong>in</strong>g<br />
across the consumer, <strong>in</strong>dustrial, beverage<br />
and automotive sectors <strong>in</strong> Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a.<br />
Its participation <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a’s beer <strong>in</strong>dustry<br />
began <strong>in</strong> the early 20th century when the<br />
company acquired Blue Girl Beer, a brand<br />
brewed <strong>in</strong> Bremen, Germany that was<br />
owned by a small German trad<strong>in</strong>g company<br />
and ma<strong>in</strong>ly exported to Q<strong>in</strong>gdao, Ch<strong>in</strong>a, to<br />
serve the German colony there.<br />
Jebsen acquired Blue Girl <strong>in</strong> 1906 but<br />
stayed ma<strong>in</strong>ly nascent and quite small<br />
until the 1990s, focused only on the Hong<br />
Kong market. S<strong>in</strong>ce then, a “comb<strong>in</strong>ation<br />
of foresight and co<strong>in</strong>cidence” helped Blue<br />
Girl expand <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, Taiwan and especially<br />
Hong Kong, where it has become the<br />
market leader.<br />
Helmuth Hennig, Group Manag<strong>in</strong>g Director,<br />
Jebsen & Company, described how Blue<br />
Girl achieved its recent success and why.<br />
“NOTHING MUCH HAPPENED” WITH BLUE<br />
GIRL UNTIL ABOUT — 20 YEARS AGO.<br />
WHAT CHANGED JEBSEN’S APPROACH<br />
TO THE BRAND AND WHAT WERE THE<br />
RESULTS?<br />
Blue Girl was just kept alive as a small<br />
bus<strong>in</strong>ess before that time. The beer was<br />
be<strong>in</strong>g brewed <strong>in</strong> Germany. This challenged the<br />
viability of the bus<strong>in</strong>ess from a f<strong>in</strong>ancial po<strong>in</strong>t of<br />
view due to the strength of the Deutschemark<br />
and quality po<strong>in</strong>t of view as the long transit time<br />
to Hong Kong, adversely affected the freshness<br />
of a natural product like beer.<br />
So, we had to ask ourselves whether this was<br />
a bus<strong>in</strong>ess we were serious about or whether<br />
it would just go down <strong>in</strong> the annals of<br />
someth<strong>in</strong>g we did for a while. The decision<br />
was made to be more serious about it.<br />
Our review co<strong>in</strong>cided with a series of<br />
conversations we were hav<strong>in</strong>g with an<br />
entrepreneur who was build<strong>in</strong>g breweries<br />
<strong>in</strong> Asia based on German technology.<br />
He suggested that Jebsen consider an<br />
alternative to brew<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Germany and<br />
recommended South Korea’s Oriental<br />
Brew<strong>in</strong>g, which produces OB beer - then the<br />
market leader there. OB, which was owned<br />
by the Park family as part of its Doosan<br />
conglomerate, was <strong>in</strong>terested. However, we<br />
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did a lot of ‘soul-search<strong>in</strong>g’, concerned that<br />
Blue Girl’s customers would react adversely<br />
to chang<strong>in</strong>g the character and taste of<br />
the beer.<br />
YET YOU WENT AHEAD AND BASICALLY<br />
NEVER LOOKED BACK.<br />
The move to Korea allowed us to change how<br />
we did th<strong>in</strong>gs <strong>in</strong> the past. We felt that mak<strong>in</strong>g<br />
this change wasn’t a big risk for us. Up to<br />
that time, it was a m<strong>in</strong>ute bus<strong>in</strong>ess. So, we<br />
decided to go ahead.<br />
Almost immediately, there were three<br />
benefits:<br />
• Our cost of goods improved<br />
• The beer was fresher<br />
• We took the opportunity to optimize the taste<br />
to better suit the local Ch<strong>in</strong>ese consumer. It<br />
was stilled brewed <strong>in</strong> the German tradition<br />
but was adjusted to be slightly milder <strong>in</strong><br />
taste<br />
critical market<strong>in</strong>g elements, such as<br />
choos<strong>in</strong>g the popular hit ballad “Wait<strong>in</strong>g for<br />
a Girl Like You” by Foreigner to accompany<br />
Blue Girl Beer ads.<br />
The results were that we grew to 5%, 10%<br />
and then 20% of the market – which took<br />
about 20 years<br />
YOU SELL BLUE GIRL ALMOST<br />
EXCLUSIVELY IN GREATER CHINA. HOW<br />
DO OTHER MARKETS COMPARE WITH<br />
HONG KONG?<br />
We’ve been <strong>in</strong> Taiwan for about 10 years.<br />
It’s similar <strong>in</strong> some ways to Hong Kong <strong>in</strong><br />
past, dom<strong>in</strong>ated by one brand – Taiwan<br />
Beer – and one import, He<strong>in</strong>eken. While<br />
the market is grow<strong>in</strong>g, it’s not been<br />
exponential.<br />
Blue Girl also has moved <strong>in</strong>to southern<br />
Ch<strong>in</strong>a, but took a conscious decision<br />
not to be a national brand – compet<strong>in</strong>g<br />
“We had to ask ourselves whether this was a bus<strong>in</strong>ess we were serious about<br />
or whether it would just go down <strong>in</strong> the annals of someth<strong>in</strong>g we did for a while.<br />
THE DECISION WAS MADE TO BE MORE<br />
SERIOUS ABOUT IT,” says Hennig.<br />
FOLLOWING THAT MOVE, BLUE GIRL, WHICH<br />
WAS VIRTUALLY UNKNOWN PREVIOUSLY,<br />
GREW RAPIDLY IN HONG KONG. HOW DID<br />
THAT HAPPEN?<br />
San Miguel, with about 60%, and Carlsberg<br />
(10-15%) dom<strong>in</strong>ated the market <strong>in</strong> the 1990s<br />
and fought ‘hammer and tong for market<br />
share.’<br />
We took a ‘slow and steady’ approach,<br />
focus<strong>in</strong>g on local, not expat, Hong Kong<br />
consumers. It was mostly sold <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>ese<br />
restaurants and <strong>in</strong> big bottles, and was<br />
popular at wedd<strong>in</strong>gs. It’s only <strong>in</strong> recent years<br />
that we’ve started to market more extensively<br />
to Western-style restaurants, pubs and<br />
karaoke bars.<br />
The brand was managed by an highly effective<br />
Jebsen executive, who had patience and<br />
good <strong>in</strong>st<strong>in</strong>cts. He and his team added some<br />
with the Ts<strong>in</strong>gdao’s, Snow’s, Harb<strong>in</strong>’s,<br />
etc. At the same time, Jebsen has<br />
noticed the development of ‘pockets’ of<br />
premiumisation <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a; appreciation of<br />
quality beer, as well as w<strong>in</strong>e, that helps<br />
brands like Blue Girl. This means that<br />
Blue Girl has done well <strong>in</strong> Fujian prov<strong>in</strong>ce,<br />
especially <strong>in</strong> and around Xiamen, and<br />
Guangdong, where Jebsen focuses its<br />
attention.<br />
Throughout Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a, Blue Girl now<br />
sells around 7 million cases a year, which<br />
represents progress but only a drop <strong>in</strong> the<br />
bucket <strong>in</strong> the Ch<strong>in</strong>a market.<br />
Go<strong>in</strong>g forward, we will cont<strong>in</strong>ue to<br />
concentrate on Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a – and are<br />
quite happy with that. We’re better off<br />
be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> three markets and do<strong>in</strong>g them<br />
well. n<br />
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