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ISSUE 5<br />

Autumn 2015<br />

Gap’s<br />

O2O Edge<br />

<strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />

• Hilti’s direct sales<br />

advantage <strong>in</strong> SE Asia<br />

• Putt<strong>in</strong>g diversity to<br />

work for clients<br />

• The agile Asian HQ<br />

• And the Jebsen Blue<br />

Girl Beer story <strong>in</strong> HK<br />

Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik,<br />

SVP & GM,<br />

Gap Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />

With the support of


EDItor’s Highlights /Content<br />

Dear Reader,<br />

Our fifth issue of CEO Dialogues tackles a broad mix of issues, all of which are top of m<strong>in</strong>d for IMA members across<br />

the region.<br />

In This Issue<br />

In our cover story, CEO Dialogues sat down with Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik, Senior VP and GM Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a of Gap to delve <strong>in</strong>to<br />

how their second mover advantage has helped drive efficient customer acquisition <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, both onl<strong>in</strong>e and<br />

offl<strong>in</strong>e.<br />

Then, we look at retention strategies through diversity <strong>in</strong> an <strong>in</strong>terview with Anthony Couse and Angela Newby,<br />

manag<strong>in</strong>g directors at JLL. They take us through how promot<strong>in</strong>g diversity has created positive material impact to<br />

their bottom l<strong>in</strong>e and corporate culture.<br />

This is followed by a discussion on what elements to consider when develop<strong>in</strong>g autonomous, accountable<br />

regional headquarters <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a with Arnold Sun, partner, EY, Shanghai.<br />

We also spoke with Gav<strong>in</strong> Gui, head of Southeast Asia for Hilti, on how they skip deal<strong>in</strong>g with distributors altogether<br />

to w<strong>in</strong> with a direct sales approach.<br />

And there is also a great story about how Jebsen built up the mega brand Blue Girl Beer <strong>in</strong> Hong Kong, told by<br />

Helmuth Hennig, manag<strong>in</strong>g director of the diversified market<strong>in</strong>g and distribution firm.<br />

Lastly, we have developed a useful <strong>in</strong>fographic that may help you when manag<strong>in</strong>g headquarters’ understand<strong>in</strong>g<br />

of how disparate and fractured the many markets of Asia really are.<br />

So, enjoy the read. CEO Dialogues will be back on deck <strong>in</strong> May next year ready for the S<strong>in</strong>gapore Overnight.<br />

Best,<br />

Richard Mart<strong>in</strong><br />

Manag<strong>in</strong>g Director<br />

IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />

Autumn 2015<br />

1<br />

TABle of Contents:<br />

2 GAP’S O2O EDGE IN CHINA<br />

5 HilTI TAKes THe DIReCT APPRoACH to AsIA<br />

7 Jll’s seCRet weAPon: DIverse teAMs<br />

9 AsIA’s COMPleXITY peRMITs few shoRTCuts<br />

10 ARE You READY TO PRIORITIse AGILITY IN ASIA?<br />

12 Jebsen & CoMPAny’s Blue GIRl Beer


COVER STORY<br />

Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik<br />

GAP’S O2O<br />

EDGE IN CHINA<br />

A second mover advantage<br />

IMA ASIA CEO DIALOGUES<br />

AUTUMN 2015<br />

2


COVER STORY<br />

IMA ASIA CEO DIALOGUES<br />

AUTUMN 2015<br />

3<br />

WHEN GAP INC. ENTERED Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />

<strong>in</strong> 2010, it was considered a late<br />

entrant. Many of the US retailer’s<br />

global competitors had already set up shop with<br />

physical stores.<br />

“One of our advantages has been see<strong>in</strong>g where<br />

to go and where not to go,” says Ab<strong>in</strong>ta Malik,<br />

senior vice-president and general manager at<br />

Gap Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a for Gap Inc. “We have had<br />

four or five years of not mak<strong>in</strong>g the mistakes a<br />

first mover would have made.”<br />

Over-<strong>in</strong>vestment <strong>in</strong> real estate is one mistake<br />

Gap seems to have neatly sidestepped, as<br />

shopp<strong>in</strong>g malls look set for hard times ahead.<br />

Today, Gap has 136 stores <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g<br />

Old Navy, and expects to reach 160 shops by the<br />

end of the year.<br />

This is a modest number compared to other<br />

retailers <strong>in</strong> their competitive set. But the<br />

smaller bricks-and-mortar footpr<strong>in</strong>t belies a<br />

much bigger strategy by Gap.<br />

BUILDING OFFLINE AND ONLINE AT<br />

THE SAME TIME<br />

When they entered Ch<strong>in</strong>a, they took the<br />

opportunity to build their onl<strong>in</strong>e and offl<strong>in</strong>e<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>esses together. “We entered Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />

multichannel and we operate as one bus<strong>in</strong>ess,”<br />

says Malik. This was a lesson the retailer<br />

learned from the US, where the channels<br />

evolved as two parallel bus<strong>in</strong>esses and<br />

<strong>in</strong>tegration has had to come later.<br />

On the front end, it means Gap Ch<strong>in</strong>a can<br />

share product stories, promotion and events<br />

with customers seamlessly between channels<br />

<strong>in</strong>stead of deal<strong>in</strong>g with them separately. And<br />

on the backend, they benefit from a shared<br />

<strong>in</strong>ventory via a large distribution center.<br />

Gap Ch<strong>in</strong>a, much like <strong>in</strong> the US, has become<br />

an e-commerce frontrunner. But for Malik,<br />

this does not mean follow<strong>in</strong>g the US template;<br />

she is look<strong>in</strong>g keenly at what to take from<br />

headquarters and what to adapt for Ch<strong>in</strong>a.<br />

She comes to Ch<strong>in</strong>a after runn<strong>in</strong>g Gap brand’s<br />

global ecommerce channels for the US, Canada,<br />

Japan and Europe. She says that these were<br />

less complicated than juggl<strong>in</strong>g the company’s<br />

greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a configuration, a mix of directlyowned<br />

websites such as gap.cn, gap.hk, gap.<br />

tw and their platform sites, Alibaba’s Tmall and<br />

Tencent-backed JD.com.<br />

“Dom<strong>in</strong>ance of platforms is very different<br />

<strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a than <strong>in</strong> the US. One of our biggest<br />

rules of engagement has been never do<br />

anyth<strong>in</strong>g that dis<strong>in</strong>termediates yourself from<br />

the customer. When I arrived <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, one of<br />

my first comments was, “We are completely<br />

dis<strong>in</strong>termediated. Now what do we do?” says<br />

Malik.<br />

She says she switched her th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g about how<br />

to build a bus<strong>in</strong>ess and a relationship with<br />

the customer - a must when the big platform<br />

players own a lot of customer data.<br />

“We have learned to leverage the strengths of<br />

our partners while rema<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g true to our brand.<br />

What I appreciate about Tmall is we get the<br />

traffic and their scale, but you go <strong>in</strong>to a branded<br />

environment when you shop Gap. So it is a great<br />

balance for us,” expla<strong>in</strong>s Malik.<br />

The Tmall bus<strong>in</strong>ess attracts a value-driven<br />

consumer, while the more loyal customer<br />

prefers shopp<strong>in</strong>g on gap.cn. This leads to<br />

peaks and valleys on Tmall, depend<strong>in</strong>g on sales<br />

and promotions.<br />

The biggest peak comes from the runaway<br />

success of Tmall’s S<strong>in</strong>gles Day, or 11.11, which<br />

Gap has found to have a significant impact. Even<br />

though bus<strong>in</strong>ess slows before and after, Gap has<br />

made the volumes work for them and has grown<br />

sales for the event each year.<br />

Gap starts preparations 12 months <strong>in</strong> advance.<br />

Malik credits their success “to the level of<br />

assortment and market<strong>in</strong>g plann<strong>in</strong>g. We don’t<br />

let it happen to us. It is simple to th<strong>in</strong>k there is<br />

go<strong>in</strong>g to be a lot of traffic, let it come. But there<br />

is an art to it.”<br />

Accord<strong>in</strong>g to Malik, the stakes are high;<br />

recover<strong>in</strong>g volume on alternate days is almost<br />

mathematically impossible. “People have filled<br />

up their shopp<strong>in</strong>g carts and spent their money,<br />

so you have to w<strong>in</strong> on that day.”<br />

It is so big that she admits she is almost afraid<br />

of it. Nobody wants a bus<strong>in</strong>ess to become<br />

dependent on one day. But important <strong>in</strong>sights<br />

<strong>in</strong>to Ch<strong>in</strong>ese consumer behaviour, gleaned <strong>in</strong><br />

part from work<strong>in</strong>g with platforms like Tmall, are<br />

feed<strong>in</strong>g other aspects of the bus<strong>in</strong>ess.<br />

“One of the th<strong>in</strong>gs we have done well, that<br />

we have to do a lot better, is us<strong>in</strong>g that desire<br />

customers have to play a game whether it be


COVER STORY<br />

onl<strong>in</strong>e or wherever,” says Malik. “We get a lot of<br />

engagement when there is gam<strong>in</strong>g and a sense of<br />

fun that’s also on brand.”<br />

She po<strong>in</strong>ts to Gap’s public cast<strong>in</strong>g call to f<strong>in</strong>d the<br />

next face for their kids/baby campaign, which<br />

attracted huge attention <strong>in</strong> Shanghai, as an<br />

example of leverag<strong>in</strong>g game elements on social<br />

media. Parents posted their children’s photo, a<br />

popular practice <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, and people voted for the<br />

w<strong>in</strong>ner.<br />

Digital coupons that reveal prizes when scratched<br />

onl<strong>in</strong>e, often used dur<strong>in</strong>g special holidays like Qixi<br />

(Ch<strong>in</strong>ese Valent<strong>in</strong>e’s Day) are successful because<br />

they appeal to a customer’s desire to have fun.<br />

Malik is also th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g deeply about brand loyalty,<br />

harder to secure as the field gets more crowded.<br />

has developed successfully elsewhere.<br />

“If you do not put a lot of <strong>in</strong>telligence beh<strong>in</strong>d it<br />

and you just light up <strong>in</strong>ventory and have it<br />

operationally execute, you can actually end up<br />

los<strong>in</strong>g money <strong>in</strong> the shipp<strong>in</strong>g cost or with different<br />

prices and promotions <strong>in</strong> different parts of your<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess,” says Malik. “I am look<strong>in</strong>g at us<strong>in</strong>g<br />

a more ref<strong>in</strong>ed algorithm com<strong>in</strong>g from North<br />

America to do that.”<br />

But <strong>in</strong> terms of social media and a mobile-first<br />

strategy, the only place to look is at Ch<strong>in</strong>a itself.<br />

And <strong>in</strong> these areas, the rapid pace is relentless.<br />

“Just last year <strong>in</strong> the US, we were talk<strong>in</strong>g about<br />

how everyth<strong>in</strong>g should be mobile first. That<br />

conversation <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a happened three years ago,”<br />

says Malik. Even <strong>in</strong> the last few years, there have<br />

“THE CUSTOMER MOVES SO FAST that traditional<br />

consumer <strong>in</strong>sights every six to twelve months is pretty irrelevant,”<br />

says Malik.<br />

She says she is currently formulat<strong>in</strong>g a way to go<br />

much further than they have before, not just with<br />

discounts or bounce backs, but to provide unique<br />

exclusives for the loyal consumer.<br />

But she won’t be rush<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> bl<strong>in</strong>dly. Her approach<br />

is to cont<strong>in</strong>ue to leverage their second mover<br />

advantage. This means not haphazardly go<strong>in</strong>g<br />

live with new <strong>in</strong>itiatives - and be<strong>in</strong>g stuck with<br />

attempt<strong>in</strong>g to tweak changes once onl<strong>in</strong>e - but<br />

paus<strong>in</strong>g to th<strong>in</strong>k about what makes the relationship<br />

with the consumer sticky and do<strong>in</strong>g rigorous<br />

test<strong>in</strong>g before roll<strong>in</strong>g out new <strong>in</strong>itiatives.<br />

been radical shifts. “When I first visited Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />

three years ago, everybody was talk<strong>in</strong>g about<br />

Weibo; now, everybody is talk<strong>in</strong>g about Wechat.”<br />

Malik f<strong>in</strong>ds herself fasc<strong>in</strong>ated by how much time<br />

people spend on their phone.<br />

“It is real communication that can turn <strong>in</strong>to<br />

commerce that happens here. I still don’t<br />

see mean<strong>in</strong>gful <strong>in</strong>tegration of Facebook <strong>in</strong>to<br />

commerce, of <strong>in</strong>stagram <strong>in</strong>to commerce, of<br />

P<strong>in</strong>terest <strong>in</strong>to commerce. But Wechat has<br />

<strong>in</strong>tegrated it.”<br />

ADDING EASE, EXPERIENCE AND EMOTION<br />

“There are a lot of sh<strong>in</strong>y new co<strong>in</strong>s. You have to be<br />

very careful about which ones actually add ease,<br />

experience and emotion to the customer versus<br />

it be<strong>in</strong>g a gimmick or a good idea, but not really<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g very well thought through,” she says.<br />

She po<strong>in</strong>ts to the latest onl<strong>in</strong>e-to-offl<strong>in</strong>e (O2O)<br />

craze around shipp<strong>in</strong>g product from stores to<br />

consumers who purchased onl<strong>in</strong>e, a service Gap<br />

This is one area where Malik is not hold<strong>in</strong>g back,<br />

but rather ramp<strong>in</strong>g up to boost Gap’s consumer<br />

<strong>in</strong>sights abilities. “The customer moves so fast that<br />

traditional consumer <strong>in</strong>sights every six to twelve<br />

months is pretty irrelevant,” she says.<br />

“The consumer is the only place to go to figure<br />

out the future, because they are fast. If I could<br />

exaggerate, I would say this is an entire country of<br />

first movers and first adopters.” n<br />

IMA ASIA CEO DIALOGUES<br />

AUTUMN 2015<br />

4


Hilti takes the<br />

direct approach<br />

to Asia<br />

Gav<strong>in</strong> Gui<br />

IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />

Autumn 2015<br />

5<br />

To paraphrase a common say<strong>in</strong>g, great<br />

th<strong>in</strong>gs come from small packages. A case<br />

<strong>in</strong> po<strong>in</strong>t is Hilti. A market leader <strong>in</strong> premium<br />

power tools and fasteners for construction<br />

professionals, Hilti is headquartered <strong>in</strong> the t<strong>in</strong>y<br />

pr<strong>in</strong>cipality of Liechtenste<strong>in</strong>, where they first got<br />

their start <strong>in</strong> 1941.<br />

Com<strong>in</strong>g from a landlocked position <strong>in</strong> the Alps has<br />

not stopped Hilti from becom<strong>in</strong>g a global company<br />

with 22,000 employees worldwide. This familyowned<br />

firm has become accustomed to go<strong>in</strong>g their<br />

own way.<br />

Nowhere is this more evident than <strong>in</strong> their<br />

commitment to the direct sales model. It is an<br />

approach that few companies take when enter<strong>in</strong>g<br />

emerg<strong>in</strong>g markets, opt<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>stead for rapid topl<strong>in</strong>e<br />

growth with the aid of local distributors and<br />

partners.<br />

But built over decades, Hilti views its direct<br />

sales model as <strong>in</strong>tegral part of their competitive<br />

advantage and have found it to be the source of their<br />

success <strong>in</strong> emerg<strong>in</strong>g and developed markets alike.<br />

Direct sales, a competitive advantage<br />

“The beauty of direct sales is the customer<br />

relationship. We effectively demonstrate our value<br />

proposition, but also feed back our customers’<br />

needs to our R&D team to come out with the next<br />

wave of new products,” expla<strong>in</strong>s Gav<strong>in</strong> Gui, head of<br />

Southeast Asia for Hilti.<br />

The direct sales model is people-<strong>in</strong>tensive. Gui<br />

oversees a team of 1,000 <strong>in</strong> Southeast Asia, about<br />

one-third of the overall headcount <strong>in</strong> Asia.<br />

These boots on the ground consist of a well-tra<strong>in</strong>ed<br />

army of sales people. Beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g their day <strong>in</strong> a Hilti<br />

red car, they are often equipped with the latest<br />

client relationship management (CRM) system on<br />

smartphones, mak<strong>in</strong>g six to ten visits per day to<br />

clients at construction sites.<br />

“Much of our direct sales model is through peer<br />

<strong>in</strong>teraction to build the relationship on the job site,<br />

we demonstrate our product value, lett<strong>in</strong>g people<br />

see how different our products and services are<br />

from other competitors,” expla<strong>in</strong>s Gui.<br />

To cover this cost, Hilti is able to price its <strong>in</strong>novative<br />

products — which set <strong>in</strong>dustry benchmarks <strong>in</strong> terms<br />

of performance, safety and productivity — at a<br />

substantially higher price than competitors.<br />

“To make the direct sales model work susta<strong>in</strong>ably,<br />

we have to demand a premium that comes from our<br />

better service, better product and better customer<br />

engagement,” says Gui. “We must have premium;<br />

otherwise, we can’t be successful.”<br />

Attract<strong>in</strong>g and reta<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g the best<br />

To stay at the top, Hilti’s success h<strong>in</strong>ges on its<br />

people. The company has developed an impressive<br />

culture and talent management system.<br />

While the official mission statement of Hilti covers<br />

<strong>in</strong>tegrity, commitment, courage and teamwork<br />

as the company’s bywords, Gui says it goes even<br />

deeper than that: perform<strong>in</strong>g a delicate balanc<strong>in</strong>g<br />

act between a family-owned company that really<br />

cares for its people with a performance oriented<br />

culture that demands excellence <strong>in</strong> return.<br />

On the one hand, “we want to outperform the<br />

market, and be number one <strong>in</strong> our field” says Gui.<br />

But “we cont<strong>in</strong>uously <strong>in</strong>vest to reta<strong>in</strong> our sales force,


avoid<strong>in</strong>g job cuts for short term performance” <strong>in</strong><br />

the down times. He emphasises that Hilti has a<br />

long-term vision that public companies are often<br />

unable to ma<strong>in</strong>ta<strong>in</strong>.<br />

A culture of coach<strong>in</strong>g permeates the entire<br />

organisation, start<strong>in</strong>g with sales. On a regular<br />

basis, sales managers sit side-by-side with<br />

salespeople <strong>in</strong> the field, work<strong>in</strong>g together to<br />

discuss what tactics are work<strong>in</strong>g and identify<br />

areas for improvement.<br />

In fact, all managers undertake professional<br />

coach<strong>in</strong>g tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g and are adept at ask<strong>in</strong>g<br />

open-ended questions to spark <strong>in</strong>sight and<br />

progress. Gui dedicates every Monday afternoon<br />

to coach<strong>in</strong>g his team, but says, “for me, it is<br />

teach<strong>in</strong>g how to fish, <strong>in</strong>stead of fish<strong>in</strong>g.”<br />

It is common for Hilti to receive hundreds of<br />

applications for every job open<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Asia, and<br />

they rema<strong>in</strong> highly selective. “Our philosophy is<br />

to choose the right people rather than hire a lot<br />

of people and see who performs,” says Gui.<br />

Given the firm’s heavy <strong>in</strong>vestment <strong>in</strong> tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g,<br />

this makes sense. Dur<strong>in</strong>g onboard<strong>in</strong>g, new<br />

hires are sent to a Hilti tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g center <strong>in</strong> the<br />

Philipp<strong>in</strong>es for a week to experience a Hilti<br />

‘Culture Journey’, and, most importantly,<br />

experience the tools firsthand, ideally fall<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>in</strong> love with Hilti products. This is the same<br />

for eng<strong>in</strong>eers and sales as it is for the<br />

adm<strong>in</strong>istrative personnel <strong>in</strong> f<strong>in</strong>ance or HR.<br />

New hires are not just given detailed handbooks,<br />

but are <strong>in</strong>formed what skills need to be<br />

mastered by a given day and what assessments<br />

will be required. There is ongo<strong>in</strong>g onsite and<br />

offsite tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g so employees are supported to be<br />

<strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>gly more capable <strong>in</strong> their roles.<br />

Still, attract<strong>in</strong>g top talent <strong>in</strong> Asia is not always<br />

easy. To counter this, executive leaders from<br />

the Chairman and CEO level on down work<br />

collaboratively with top bus<strong>in</strong>ess schools, from<br />

Ts<strong>in</strong>ghua University <strong>in</strong> Beij<strong>in</strong>g to the Asian<br />

campus of INSEAD, to guarantee a pipel<strong>in</strong>e of<br />

future leaders. An ‘outperformer program’<br />

fast tracks top graduates with high potential<br />

to be bus<strong>in</strong>ess unit (BU) heads or general<br />

managers (GM).<br />

Gui is himself an example of how Hilti grooms<br />

talent. Initially brought onboard as Hong<br />

Kong GM three years ago, the path was laid<br />

out for him to take on the leadership role <strong>in</strong><br />

Southeast Asia he has today.<br />

All this <strong>in</strong>vestment <strong>in</strong> people gives Hilti<br />

remarkable control of its culture – and helps to<br />

back up its expectations of <strong>in</strong>tegrity. “We have<br />

very high standards of <strong>in</strong>tegrity about the way<br />

we do bus<strong>in</strong>ess <strong>in</strong> emerg<strong>in</strong>g countries,” says<br />

Gui. “Sometimes we have to walk away from the<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess because of our high standards.”<br />

While Hilti is <strong>in</strong>flexible on <strong>in</strong>tegrity, there is<br />

recognition that Southeast Asia is a diverse<br />

territory – a comb<strong>in</strong>ation of different cultures,<br />

different markets all at different stages of<br />

development – and there is some flexibility<br />

allowed <strong>in</strong> strategy.<br />

For very emerg<strong>in</strong>g markets with lower<br />

construction standards, Hilti has been known to<br />

get a foothold with distributors. This is how they<br />

first entered Vietnam, before switch<strong>in</strong>g over to<br />

direct sales a few years ago, and is the approach<br />

they are tak<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Myanmar and Sri Lanka.<br />

“We have to differentiate market to market,”<br />

says Gui. “We keep our strong culture, that<br />

should not change, but we utilise our strengths.<br />

Each market differs depend<strong>in</strong>g on the stage.<br />

There is no s<strong>in</strong>gle Asia strategy.”<br />

tHe latest trend <strong>in</strong> direct sales:<br />

e-commerce<br />

Although the direct sales model has over 200<br />

years history, it has not changed much s<strong>in</strong>ce<br />

the advent of the catalog, that is until its latest<br />

iteration, which promises to be highly disruptive:<br />

e-commerce.<br />

Hilti has not failed to make this aspect of the<br />

direct sales model work for them as well. In<br />

some markets, 25% to nearly 50% <strong>in</strong> revenues<br />

come from onl<strong>in</strong>e.<br />

But sell<strong>in</strong>g onl<strong>in</strong>e is not <strong>in</strong>tended to replace<br />

the all-important customer relationship or the<br />

physical demonstration of product superiority. It<br />

has been designed for the convenience of loyal<br />

customers, to keep up with product <strong>in</strong>novations<br />

and to make repeat orders, enhanc<strong>in</strong>g<br />

productivity and efficiency.<br />

The next step will be to use technology to<br />

pay greater attention to a customer’s unique<br />

needs and provide more tailored one-on-one<br />

services onl<strong>in</strong>e. So even for the people-<strong>in</strong>tensive<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess, – e-commerce beckons. “Digitisation<br />

is the future for our company,” says Gui. n<br />

IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />

Autumn 2015<br />

6


JLL’s secret<br />

weapon:<br />

diverse teams<br />

Angela Newby<br />

Most people will agree diversity is<br />

a good th<strong>in</strong>g. It is clearly the right th<strong>in</strong>g<br />

to do, and there is plenty of research to<br />

support that it leads to better bus<strong>in</strong>ess results.<br />

But how many firms move past the platitudes,<br />

dig deep and really start to do the often messy<br />

work of implement<strong>in</strong>g change?<br />

where they are chas<strong>in</strong>g the ris<strong>in</strong>g local firms as<br />

much as MNC clients. And MNCs, whether they<br />

are <strong>in</strong> S<strong>in</strong>gapore or Mumbai, are also largely<br />

comprised of local employees.<br />

This has meant the composition of JLL’s clientfac<strong>in</strong>g<br />

teams has also had to change.<br />

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Autumn 2015<br />

7<br />

Last year, JLL Asia Pacific decided it was time<br />

to commit to mov<strong>in</strong>g the needle on diversity.<br />

“The challenge for us is that we do make<br />

progress, and not just talk about it,” said Angela<br />

Newby, JLL manag<strong>in</strong>g director of transaction<br />

management, Asia Pacific<br />

This has meant dedicat<strong>in</strong>g resources, and<br />

“gett<strong>in</strong>g some of our best-<strong>in</strong>-class people <strong>in</strong><br />

work<strong>in</strong>g groups to effect change,” added Anthony<br />

Couse, manag<strong>in</strong>g director, East Ch<strong>in</strong>a for JLL.<br />

“To try and say we are go<strong>in</strong>g to crack diversity <strong>in</strong><br />

a year is not realistic. This is a very long journey.<br />

It is chang<strong>in</strong>g culture and that does not happen<br />

overnight.”<br />

For Jll, which has over 250 years history beh<strong>in</strong>d<br />

it, diversity has become more than a strategic<br />

priority; it is an <strong>in</strong>tegral part of their value system.<br />

They face a tougher uphill battle than most.<br />

Diversity <strong>in</strong> the corporate real estate <strong>in</strong>dustry<br />

has, <strong>in</strong> Asia Pacific and elsewhere, lagged<br />

beh<strong>in</strong>d other <strong>in</strong>dustries. Property owners have<br />

historically been male, and <strong>in</strong> some places<br />

mostly white, and so have the bus<strong>in</strong>ess people<br />

who sought real estate services. Of course, this<br />

is no longer the case.<br />

JLL’s customers have changed, particularly<br />

<strong>in</strong> markets such as India, Ch<strong>in</strong>a and Japan,<br />

“It is <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g how quickly diversity has gone<br />

to the top of m<strong>in</strong>d of a lot of people,” said Couse.<br />

“We are see<strong>in</strong>g much more diverse pitch teams.<br />

We look at what the client wants and put diverse<br />

teams <strong>in</strong> play.”<br />

Diversity shakes up the status quo,<br />

strengthens creativity<br />

Beyond hav<strong>in</strong>g a greater understand<strong>in</strong>g of the<br />

client, diverse teams are a great way to burst<br />

groupth<strong>in</strong>k and the stultify<strong>in</strong>g status quo that<br />

occurs when too many like-m<strong>in</strong>ded people get<br />

together and ‘s<strong>in</strong>g to the choir.’<br />

“When we put diverse teams, male, female,<br />

local, expatriate, whatever <strong>in</strong> front of our clients,<br />

we get a much higher perform<strong>in</strong>g team with<br />

different op<strong>in</strong>ions and different views. We get<br />

much more creativity and <strong>in</strong>novative solutions<br />

out of diverse teams,” says Couse.<br />

This corresponds with the research. In terms<br />

of sales, the American Sociological Association<br />

found that for every 1% rise <strong>in</strong> the rate of gender<br />

and ethnic diversity with<strong>in</strong> a sales team, there is<br />

a 3% to 9% <strong>in</strong>crease <strong>in</strong> sales revenue.<br />

But gett<strong>in</strong>g to the stage of hav<strong>in</strong>g the talent<br />

available is a big part of the challenge. On the<br />

one hand, there is a need for diversity – which is<br />

say<strong>in</strong>g the right people are not there and go<strong>in</strong>g


out and f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g them. On the other, there is a<br />

need for <strong>in</strong>clusion – f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g that the people are<br />

there, but not engaged.<br />

In terms of hir<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>take, JLL could easily decide<br />

to pat itself on the back. In Ch<strong>in</strong>a, for example,<br />

they hire 65% female employees. But when they<br />

exam<strong>in</strong>e the composition of their directors, it<br />

whittles down to the less than ideal 30% female.<br />

“If you look at JLL, our offices are very diverse <strong>in</strong><br />

race and culture. In many locations, we are 85%<br />

local. It is not to say that culture differences and<br />

other dimensions of diversity aren’t important,<br />

but gender is the big rock we need to move right<br />

now,” says Couse. JLL do not claim to have<br />

all the answers and Couse says he is work<strong>in</strong>g<br />

to better understand why there is so much<br />

dashboard that allows leaders to check-<strong>in</strong><br />

regularly to measure progress. The dashboard<br />

<strong>in</strong> Sydney can and should look different than the<br />

dashboard <strong>in</strong> Shanghai.<br />

The dashboard <strong>in</strong>corporates a set of key<br />

performance <strong>in</strong>dicators (KPIs) to track measures<br />

such as gender by country and corporate grade;<br />

hires and leavers by gender, corporate grade and<br />

country; and promotions by gender and country.<br />

The action plan be<strong>in</strong>g implemented <strong>in</strong>cludes<br />

diversity <strong>in</strong>telligence leadership tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g – with<br />

an emphasis on understand<strong>in</strong>g and break<strong>in</strong>g<br />

unconscious bias. This <strong>in</strong>cludes a mentor<strong>in</strong>g<br />

program for senior female leaders, a diversity kit<br />

for managers expla<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g the basics and possibly<br />

most importantly, says Couse, flexible work<br />

“When we put diverse teams, male, female, local, expatriate, whatever <strong>in</strong> front of<br />

our clients, we get a much higher perform<strong>in</strong>g team with different op<strong>in</strong>ions and different views.<br />

We get much more creativity and <strong>in</strong>novative<br />

solutions out of diverse teams,” says Couse.<br />

Anthony Couse<br />

attrition of female leaders <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a. Unlike<br />

western countries, Ch<strong>in</strong>ese women are likely to<br />

have one child and they have family to rely on,<br />

with grandparents pull<strong>in</strong>g together to take on<br />

childcare duties.<br />

The piLLars: culture, visibility, talent<br />

and employee benefits<br />

In Asia Pacific, JLL is focus<strong>in</strong>g on four pillars –<br />

the culture and its impact on diversity; the need<br />

for mak<strong>in</strong>g diversity visible; build<strong>in</strong>g talent for<br />

the future; and employee benefits, check<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

ensure that the right benefits and procedures<br />

support the diversity agenda.<br />

Guided by the pillars, says Newby, they then take<br />

a tailored approach with<strong>in</strong> each country. Local<br />

autonomy to decide what works is a key facet to the<br />

exercise. This shows an understand<strong>in</strong>g that culture<br />

rarely changes when mandated from on high.<br />

At the start of the process, the APAC Diversity<br />

and Inclusion Group worked with an external<br />

facilitator to put together a plan with key<br />

milestones. Instead of sett<strong>in</strong>g targets or<br />

quotas, they are design<strong>in</strong>g a diversity-<strong>in</strong>clusion<br />

practices that will allow both men and women to<br />

reach their potential <strong>in</strong> the bus<strong>in</strong>ess.<br />

Change is on the way<br />

“As a female <strong>in</strong> commercial real estate services<br />

for over 20 years, I am pleasantly surprised<br />

how many women are choos<strong>in</strong>g to enter the<br />

profession,” says Newby. She says now her focus<br />

is on the <strong>in</strong>clusive challenge to get more of those<br />

women <strong>in</strong>to leadership roles.<br />

Her male colleagues have shown great<br />

enthusiasm for diversity and <strong>in</strong>clusion <strong>in</strong>itiatives,<br />

another welcome surprise. “There has been a<br />

real m<strong>in</strong>d shift from male colleagues about how<br />

important this is, not just as the right th<strong>in</strong>g to do,<br />

but how much more bus<strong>in</strong>ess will be generated<br />

from this.”<br />

“We have really gone out on the front foot on<br />

this to make diversity a differentiator,” added<br />

Couse. “I th<strong>in</strong>k an equally important part of it<br />

is what our clients expect. They are expect<strong>in</strong>g<br />

diverse teams to work together with them to<br />

br<strong>in</strong>g more creative, <strong>in</strong>novative solutions to their<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess.” n<br />

IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />

Autumn 2015<br />

8


Asia’s COMPLEXITY<br />

PErmits few shorTCuts<br />

Don’t become a victim to HQ’s tunnel vision. AP’s attractive<br />

growth rates can lead to high expectations but it has never paid to<br />

underestimate the complexity of our region.<br />

When sett<strong>in</strong>g direction, the challenges of manag<strong>in</strong>g Asia needs to be<br />

put alongside goal sett<strong>in</strong>g and strategy, not after the fact. Our region<br />

may be the fastest grow<strong>in</strong>g, but it is also more diverse requir<strong>in</strong>g higher<br />

operat<strong>in</strong>g costs than any other.<br />

Asia is big.<br />

AP heads can spend a lot more time <strong>in</strong> the air than their regional counterparts <strong>in</strong> North America or Europe.<br />

Flight times demonstrate the span of control challenge <strong>in</strong> our region.<br />

EurOPE<br />

North AMEriCA<br />

Asia/Pacific<br />

Sydney to Delhi –<br />

14hrs 50m<strong>in</strong><br />

(via S<strong>in</strong>gapore)<br />

Mexico City to Vancouver – 5hrs 50m<strong>in</strong><br />

LA to NY – 5 hours<br />

Rome to Stockholm – 4 hours<br />

London to Istanbul – 3hrs 50m<strong>in</strong><br />

Sydney to Tokyo – 9hrs 50 m<strong>in</strong><br />

S<strong>in</strong>gapore to Tokyo – 7 hours<br />

New Delhi to Tokyo – 7 hours<br />

Asia LACks a COMMOn regionAL MArkET.<br />

In 2012, Asia Pacific accounted for 30.5% of global GDP. But there is no s<strong>in</strong>gle Asian market. It is a fragmented<br />

group of nations, some high <strong>in</strong>come others low, each requir<strong>in</strong>g their own country level operations. It is hard to build<br />

economies of scale <strong>in</strong> the region just as it is challeng<strong>in</strong>g to move staff from one country to the next.<br />

11.3% 8.3% 3.1% 2.6% 2.3% 1.6% 0.6% 0.4%<br />

Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />

Japan<br />

India<br />

hk<br />

ASEAN<br />

(and this must split <strong>in</strong>to<br />

6 countries)<br />

Australia/NZ<br />

Korea<br />

Taiwan<br />

IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />

Autumn 2015<br />

*AP countries contribution to global GDP.<br />

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Are you ready to<br />

prioritise agility<br />

<strong>in</strong> Asia?<br />

The rise of the autonomous, accountable<br />

regional headquarters<br />

Arnold Sun<br />

In Asia’s fast grow<strong>in</strong>g economies, the one<br />

constant managers have counted on has been<br />

rapid change. But the trajectory of change has<br />

hit a startl<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>flection po<strong>in</strong>t. As positive numbers<br />

decelerate, the days of easy growth <strong>in</strong> our region are<br />

beh<strong>in</strong>d us. Ch<strong>in</strong>a is a major factor, as the country<br />

retools, trad<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> its low-cost manufactur<strong>in</strong>g,<br />

export-driven past for a sh<strong>in</strong>y new high-value,<br />

consumer-driven economy.<br />

The good news is this new pool of consumers offers the<br />

best chance at growth over the next decade.<br />

emerg<strong>in</strong>g markets demands an <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g level of<br />

autonomy at the local level.<br />

“The pace of change and <strong>in</strong>tensify<strong>in</strong>g competition<br />

means that companies have to prioritise agility,” says<br />

the EY study. “We believe that companies need to<br />

give local management autonomy over key bus<strong>in</strong>ess<br />

decisions, but with<strong>in</strong> a carefully def<strong>in</strong>ed framework.”<br />

Location, location, location<br />

When sett<strong>in</strong>g up a RHQ, one of the first discussions is<br />

around where to locate.<br />

By 2017 emerg<strong>in</strong>g Asia will account for one-quarter of<br />

the global consumer products market and generate<br />

38% of total consumer products <strong>in</strong>crease, accord<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

a recent study by EY.<br />

The bad news is mult<strong>in</strong>ational firms now have much<br />

more competition from local players, both private- and<br />

state-owned firms, that are chas<strong>in</strong>g these consumers<br />

with fresh <strong>in</strong>sights and <strong>in</strong>novative bus<strong>in</strong>ess models,<br />

often at a lower cost.<br />

How <strong>in</strong>ternational firms structure themselves to<br />

respond to the region’s volatility will ultimately<br />

determ<strong>in</strong>e who will succeed over the long term.<br />

Try<strong>in</strong>g to f<strong>in</strong>d that happy medium between global<br />

excellence — best practice and processes — and<br />

between local agility — <strong>in</strong>sight and entrepreneurship —<br />

is not a new dilemma.<br />

Too much centralisation means that regional or<br />

global managers sit too far away from consumers and<br />

local relevance is sacrificed. Too much localisation<br />

and duplication creeps <strong>in</strong>, erod<strong>in</strong>g profitability and<br />

<strong>in</strong>troduc<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>efficiency.<br />

Draw<strong>in</strong>g on the examples of high performers and their<br />

own <strong>in</strong>sights from work<strong>in</strong>g with clients <strong>in</strong> the region<br />

EY has found that the volatility and diversity of the Asia<br />

Taxes, human resources, <strong>in</strong>frastructure and proximity<br />

to the consumer are all factors to be considered when<br />

determ<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g a location for RHQ. While S<strong>in</strong>gapore has<br />

been a popular hub to manage ASEAN markets, EY has<br />

identified Malaysia as an attractive alternative, po<strong>in</strong>t<strong>in</strong>g<br />

to the government’s Invest KL program and plentiful<br />

human capital – mak<strong>in</strong>g it ideal for people-<strong>in</strong>tensive<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>esses.<br />

Ch<strong>in</strong>a-for-Ch<strong>in</strong>a<br />

Many firms are adopt<strong>in</strong>g a Ch<strong>in</strong>a-for-Ch<strong>in</strong>a approach.<br />

Given the sheer size of its contribution to many firms’<br />

global revenues and the difficulty to transfer funds<br />

outside its borders, Ch<strong>in</strong>a is becom<strong>in</strong>g its own RHQ.<br />

This leads to a tw<strong>in</strong> regional hub strategy: one <strong>in</strong><br />

Shanghai to cover Ch<strong>in</strong>a and North Asia; another to<br />

cover South Asia.<br />

CEO Dialogues spoke with Arnold Sun, EY partner <strong>in</strong><br />

the Shanghai office who has observed the trend firsthand.<br />

He has found that “many more regional HQ are<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g built out of the Ch<strong>in</strong>a marketplace across a wide<br />

spectrum of <strong>in</strong>dustries.”<br />

When giv<strong>in</strong>g more autonomy, he po<strong>in</strong>ts to several ways<br />

firms are mak<strong>in</strong>g it work.<br />

Greater autonomy to deliver local needs<br />

When foster<strong>in</strong>g local autonomy, it is important to set<br />

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Autumn 2015<br />

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appropriate authorisations, determ<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g what decisions<br />

are made at HQ and what is left <strong>in</strong> the hands of the<br />

regional headquarters.<br />

“It is important to strike the balance between the need<br />

for autonomy and the mitigation of associated risks,”<br />

expla<strong>in</strong>s Sun.<br />

For human capital and fund<strong>in</strong>g decisions, there are<br />

many creative ways to design different layers, or<br />

thresholds, to manage risk. For example, decisions<br />

over a certa<strong>in</strong> amount or scalability – such as over $50<br />

million or $100 million – the decision reverts to global.<br />

Anyth<strong>in</strong>g under that amount is a decision taken by RHQ.<br />

An EY study found that high perform<strong>in</strong>g companies<br />

are giv<strong>in</strong>g greater autonomy on decisions such as<br />

choos<strong>in</strong>g suppliers, product development, brand<strong>in</strong>g,<br />

choice of channels or route to market decisions, and<br />

product range.<br />

To a slightly lesser extent, local managers are also<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g granted autonomy around sett<strong>in</strong>g targets and<br />

key performance <strong>in</strong>dicators (KPIs), form<strong>in</strong>g local<br />

partnerships and alliances, supply cha<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>vestment and<br />

headcount changes.<br />

level — to adapt swiftly to local market needs — is<br />

lost if economies of scale are sought at the expense of<br />

forsak<strong>in</strong>g value to customers.<br />

Increas<strong>in</strong>gly non-core activities such as supply<br />

cha<strong>in</strong>, strategic analysis and market research and<br />

even parts of sales and market<strong>in</strong>g such as tra<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />

are mov<strong>in</strong>g to regional shared service centers. This<br />

leaves the customer fac<strong>in</strong>g parts of the bus<strong>in</strong>ess free<br />

to concentrate on deliver<strong>in</strong>g higher value work that<br />

requires customer proximity or local knowledge.<br />

But true cluster<strong>in</strong>g goes beyond geographic boundaries.<br />

Instead of go<strong>in</strong>g after economies of scale, Sun suggests<br />

consider<strong>in</strong>g economies of scope This approach looks<br />

for creative solutions that can be shared and adapted<br />

between countries and regions, leverag<strong>in</strong>g similarities<br />

rather than just allow<strong>in</strong>g for differences.<br />

Firms are beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g to realise that the high-end<br />

Shanghai consumer may have more <strong>in</strong> common<br />

with high-end consumers <strong>in</strong> Paris or London, rather<br />

than consumers <strong>in</strong> other Ch<strong>in</strong>ese markets. Or that<br />

the emerg<strong>in</strong>g market consumer <strong>in</strong> Asia, Africa and<br />

Lat<strong>in</strong> America may have certa<strong>in</strong> characteristics <strong>in</strong><br />

common.<br />

To make autonomy work, the right processes need to be <strong>in</strong><br />

place, consistent with global standards but still permitt<strong>in</strong>g<br />

flexibility. Local autonomy does not mean local execution.<br />

Managers should take full advantage of standardised and<br />

centralised resources to support them.<br />

A holistic approach will set performance <strong>in</strong>dicators to<br />

properly <strong>in</strong>centivise the high performance teams needed<br />

to deliver locally relevant decisions. While determ<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />

the governance structure between RHQ and HQ cannot<br />

be overlooked. In some cases, firms are putt<strong>in</strong>g their<br />

local CEO – the Ch<strong>in</strong>a bus<strong>in</strong>ess head – as part of the<br />

global executive team.<br />

“When go<strong>in</strong>g with a Ch<strong>in</strong>a regional HQ, there has to be a<br />

clear rationale about what the value creation the RHQ can<br />

really develop to the subord<strong>in</strong>at<strong>in</strong>g markets,” says Sun.<br />

Cluster<strong>in</strong>g to leverage global capabilities<br />

Part of that value comes from cost sav<strong>in</strong>gs found<br />

when regional management, f<strong>in</strong>ance, HR and IT are all<br />

brought under one roof. This is typically the first step<br />

<strong>in</strong> a regionalisation strategy, crucial to avoid wasteful<br />

duplication of effort.<br />

But the ma<strong>in</strong> po<strong>in</strong>t of greater autonomy at the local<br />

“Whenever th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g of bus<strong>in</strong>ess expansion, almost<br />

always the first th<strong>in</strong>g is your customer focus:<br />

who are the customers and what are their unique<br />

characteristics,” says Sun, who urges companies<br />

to ref<strong>in</strong>e the customer segmentation along with the<br />

evolv<strong>in</strong>g dynamics of the Ch<strong>in</strong>a market.<br />

Sun relates his experience <strong>in</strong> an <strong>in</strong>terior Ch<strong>in</strong>ese city<br />

with a population of 1.5 million. Urban residents <strong>in</strong> and<br />

near the city centre shared more consumer preferences<br />

with consumers <strong>in</strong> first tier cities than they did with<br />

their neighbours <strong>in</strong> the rural suburbs. The differences<br />

veered between traditional and modern trade, requir<strong>in</strong>g<br />

different products and adapt<strong>in</strong>g to different preferred<br />

modes of payment.<br />

“There is no longer a s<strong>in</strong>gle way to look at tier 1, tier<br />

2, or tier 3,” says Sun. His clients have used their<br />

local autonomy to reorganise, <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g restructur<strong>in</strong>g<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess units (BUs), to respond to the new consumer<br />

segmented reality.<br />

By br<strong>in</strong>g<strong>in</strong>g a firm’s focus to bear on consumer<br />

segmentation, MNCs can take advantage of both<br />

worlds: they can at once be sensitive to local needs, yet<br />

leverage the power of global resources. n<br />

IMA AsIA CEO DIAlogues<br />

Autumn 2015<br />

11<br />

This publication conta<strong>in</strong>s <strong>in</strong>formation <strong>in</strong> summary form and is therefore <strong>in</strong>tended for general guidance only. It is not<br />

<strong>in</strong>tended to be a substitute for detailed research or the exercise of professional judgment. Member firms of the global EY<br />

organisation cannot accept responsibility for loss to any person rely<strong>in</strong>g on this article.


JEBSEN &<br />

COMPANY’S<br />

BLUE GIRL<br />

BEER<br />

How a German product brewed <strong>in</strong><br />

Korea became the market leader<br />

<strong>in</strong> Hong Kong<br />

Helmuth Hennig<br />

BEGINNING AS a shipp<strong>in</strong>g agency<br />

<strong>in</strong> the late 19th century, Jebsen<br />

& Company developed <strong>in</strong>to a<br />

market<strong>in</strong>g and distribution firm operat<strong>in</strong>g<br />

across the consumer, <strong>in</strong>dustrial, beverage<br />

and automotive sectors <strong>in</strong> Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a.<br />

Its participation <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a’s beer <strong>in</strong>dustry<br />

began <strong>in</strong> the early 20th century when the<br />

company acquired Blue Girl Beer, a brand<br />

brewed <strong>in</strong> Bremen, Germany that was<br />

owned by a small German trad<strong>in</strong>g company<br />

and ma<strong>in</strong>ly exported to Q<strong>in</strong>gdao, Ch<strong>in</strong>a, to<br />

serve the German colony there.<br />

Jebsen acquired Blue Girl <strong>in</strong> 1906 but<br />

stayed ma<strong>in</strong>ly nascent and quite small<br />

until the 1990s, focused only on the Hong<br />

Kong market. S<strong>in</strong>ce then, a “comb<strong>in</strong>ation<br />

of foresight and co<strong>in</strong>cidence” helped Blue<br />

Girl expand <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a, Taiwan and especially<br />

Hong Kong, where it has become the<br />

market leader.<br />

Helmuth Hennig, Group Manag<strong>in</strong>g Director,<br />

Jebsen & Company, described how Blue<br />

Girl achieved its recent success and why.<br />

“NOTHING MUCH HAPPENED” WITH BLUE<br />

GIRL UNTIL ABOUT — 20 YEARS AGO.<br />

WHAT CHANGED JEBSEN’S APPROACH<br />

TO THE BRAND AND WHAT WERE THE<br />

RESULTS?<br />

Blue Girl was just kept alive as a small<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess before that time. The beer was<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g brewed <strong>in</strong> Germany. This challenged the<br />

viability of the bus<strong>in</strong>ess from a f<strong>in</strong>ancial po<strong>in</strong>t of<br />

view due to the strength of the Deutschemark<br />

and quality po<strong>in</strong>t of view as the long transit time<br />

to Hong Kong, adversely affected the freshness<br />

of a natural product like beer.<br />

So, we had to ask ourselves whether this was<br />

a bus<strong>in</strong>ess we were serious about or whether<br />

it would just go down <strong>in</strong> the annals of<br />

someth<strong>in</strong>g we did for a while. The decision<br />

was made to be more serious about it.<br />

Our review co<strong>in</strong>cided with a series of<br />

conversations we were hav<strong>in</strong>g with an<br />

entrepreneur who was build<strong>in</strong>g breweries<br />

<strong>in</strong> Asia based on German technology.<br />

He suggested that Jebsen consider an<br />

alternative to brew<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Germany and<br />

recommended South Korea’s Oriental<br />

Brew<strong>in</strong>g, which produces OB beer - then the<br />

market leader there. OB, which was owned<br />

by the Park family as part of its Doosan<br />

conglomerate, was <strong>in</strong>terested. However, we<br />

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did a lot of ‘soul-search<strong>in</strong>g’, concerned that<br />

Blue Girl’s customers would react adversely<br />

to chang<strong>in</strong>g the character and taste of<br />

the beer.<br />

YET YOU WENT AHEAD AND BASICALLY<br />

NEVER LOOKED BACK.<br />

The move to Korea allowed us to change how<br />

we did th<strong>in</strong>gs <strong>in</strong> the past. We felt that mak<strong>in</strong>g<br />

this change wasn’t a big risk for us. Up to<br />

that time, it was a m<strong>in</strong>ute bus<strong>in</strong>ess. So, we<br />

decided to go ahead.<br />

Almost immediately, there were three<br />

benefits:<br />

• Our cost of goods improved<br />

• The beer was fresher<br />

• We took the opportunity to optimize the taste<br />

to better suit the local Ch<strong>in</strong>ese consumer. It<br />

was stilled brewed <strong>in</strong> the German tradition<br />

but was adjusted to be slightly milder <strong>in</strong><br />

taste<br />

critical market<strong>in</strong>g elements, such as<br />

choos<strong>in</strong>g the popular hit ballad “Wait<strong>in</strong>g for<br />

a Girl Like You” by Foreigner to accompany<br />

Blue Girl Beer ads.<br />

The results were that we grew to 5%, 10%<br />

and then 20% of the market – which took<br />

about 20 years<br />

YOU SELL BLUE GIRL ALMOST<br />

EXCLUSIVELY IN GREATER CHINA. HOW<br />

DO OTHER MARKETS COMPARE WITH<br />

HONG KONG?<br />

We’ve been <strong>in</strong> Taiwan for about 10 years.<br />

It’s similar <strong>in</strong> some ways to Hong Kong <strong>in</strong><br />

past, dom<strong>in</strong>ated by one brand – Taiwan<br />

Beer – and one import, He<strong>in</strong>eken. While<br />

the market is grow<strong>in</strong>g, it’s not been<br />

exponential.<br />

Blue Girl also has moved <strong>in</strong>to southern<br />

Ch<strong>in</strong>a, but took a conscious decision<br />

not to be a national brand – compet<strong>in</strong>g<br />

“We had to ask ourselves whether this was a bus<strong>in</strong>ess we were serious about<br />

or whether it would just go down <strong>in</strong> the annals of someth<strong>in</strong>g we did for a while.<br />

THE DECISION WAS MADE TO BE MORE<br />

SERIOUS ABOUT IT,” says Hennig.<br />

FOLLOWING THAT MOVE, BLUE GIRL, WHICH<br />

WAS VIRTUALLY UNKNOWN PREVIOUSLY,<br />

GREW RAPIDLY IN HONG KONG. HOW DID<br />

THAT HAPPEN?<br />

San Miguel, with about 60%, and Carlsberg<br />

(10-15%) dom<strong>in</strong>ated the market <strong>in</strong> the 1990s<br />

and fought ‘hammer and tong for market<br />

share.’<br />

We took a ‘slow and steady’ approach,<br />

focus<strong>in</strong>g on local, not expat, Hong Kong<br />

consumers. It was mostly sold <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>ese<br />

restaurants and <strong>in</strong> big bottles, and was<br />

popular at wedd<strong>in</strong>gs. It’s only <strong>in</strong> recent years<br />

that we’ve started to market more extensively<br />

to Western-style restaurants, pubs and<br />

karaoke bars.<br />

The brand was managed by an highly effective<br />

Jebsen executive, who had patience and<br />

good <strong>in</strong>st<strong>in</strong>cts. He and his team added some<br />

with the Ts<strong>in</strong>gdao’s, Snow’s, Harb<strong>in</strong>’s,<br />

etc. At the same time, Jebsen has<br />

noticed the development of ‘pockets’ of<br />

premiumisation <strong>in</strong> Ch<strong>in</strong>a; appreciation of<br />

quality beer, as well as w<strong>in</strong>e, that helps<br />

brands like Blue Girl. This means that<br />

Blue Girl has done well <strong>in</strong> Fujian prov<strong>in</strong>ce,<br />

especially <strong>in</strong> and around Xiamen, and<br />

Guangdong, where Jebsen focuses its<br />

attention.<br />

Throughout Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a, Blue Girl now<br />

sells around 7 million cases a year, which<br />

represents progress but only a drop <strong>in</strong> the<br />

bucket <strong>in</strong> the Ch<strong>in</strong>a market.<br />

Go<strong>in</strong>g forward, we will cont<strong>in</strong>ue to<br />

concentrate on Greater Ch<strong>in</strong>a – and are<br />

quite happy with that. We’re better off<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> three markets and do<strong>in</strong>g them<br />

well. n<br />

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