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Maharaj: I met my Guru when I was 34 and realised by 37.<br />

Q: What happened? What was the change?<br />

M: Pleasure and pain lost their sway over me. I was free from desire and fear. I found myself full,<br />

needing nothing. I saw that in the ocean of pure awareness, on the surface of the universal<br />

consciousness, the numberless waves of the phenomenal worlds arise and subside beginninglessly<br />

and endlessly. As consciousness, they are all me. As events they are all mine. There is a<br />

mysterious power that looks after them. <strong>That</strong> power is awareness, Self, Life, God, whatever n<strong>am</strong>e<br />

you give it. It is the foundation, the ultimate support of all that is, just like gold is the basis for all gold<br />

jewellery. And it is so intimately ours! Abstract the n<strong>am</strong>e and shape from the jewellery and the gold<br />

becomes obvious. Be free of n<strong>am</strong>e and form and of the desires and fears they create, then what<br />

remains?<br />

Q: Nothingness.<br />

M: Yes, the void remains. But the void is full to the brim. It is the eternal potential as consciousness<br />

is the eternal actual.<br />

Q: By potential you mean the future?<br />

M: Past, present and future -- they are all there. And infinitely more.<br />

Q: But since the void is void, it is of little use to us.<br />

M: How can you say so? Without breach in continuity how can there be rebirth? Can there be<br />

renewal without death? Even the darkness of sleep is refreshing and rejuvenating. Without death<br />

we would have been bogged up for ever in eternal senility.<br />

Q: Is there no such thing as immortality?<br />

M: When life and death are seen as essential to each other, as two aspects of one being, that is<br />

immortality. To see the end in the beginning and beginning in the end is the intimation of eternity.<br />

Definitely, immortality is not continuity. Only the process of change continues. Nothing lasts.<br />

Q: Awareness lasts?<br />

M: Awareness is not of time. Time exists in consciousness only. Beyond consciousness where are<br />

time and space?<br />

Q: Within the field of your consciousness there is your body also.<br />

M: Of course. But the idea 'my body', as different from other bodies, is not there. To me it is 'a<br />

body', not 'my body', 'a mind', not 'my mind'. The mind looks after the body all right, I need not<br />

interfere. What needs be done is being done, in the normal and natural way.

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