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This edition of the Battlefield Sleuth concerns reports of events on the first day of the Somme, from the perspective of the 90th Company, Machine Gun Corps. As part of 90th Brigade, the men of Machine Gun Corps took part in the capture and subsequent defence of the village of Montauban. New information assists in interpreting and clarifying further events of the 1st - 2nd July 1916 See https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/56466769/machine-gun-corps-at-montaunban

This edition of the Battlefield Sleuth concerns reports of events on the first day of the Somme, from the perspective of the 90th Company, Machine Gun Corps. As part of 90th Brigade, the men of Machine Gun Corps took part in the capture and subsequent defence of the village of Montauban. New information assists in interpreting and clarifying further events of the 1st - 2nd July 1916 See https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/56466769/machine-gun-corps-at-montaunban

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90TH COMPANY MACHINE GUN CORPS AT MONTAUBAN<br />

CLEARING UP AN ANOMALY AND SAVING MY GRANDAD’S LIFE WITH A RAT-TA-TA-TAT-TAT<br />

© IWM (Q 1419) Men of the <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong> <strong>Corps</strong> in action with a Vickers machine gun (left) and a captured German MG 08 machine<br />

gun on sledge mount, Mouquet Farm, September 1916.<br />

This edition of the B<strong>at</strong>tlefield Sleuth concerns reports of events on the first day of the Somme, from<br />

the perspective of the 90th Company, <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong> <strong>Corps</strong>. As part of 90 th Brigade, the men of<br />

<strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong> <strong>Corps</strong> took part in the capture and subsequent defence of the village of <strong>Montauban</strong>.<br />

The War Diary provides a summary of the action (WD), extended by the report from Captain Leslie<br />

Grundy (in italics LG); who wrote a letter detailing his experiences of the day. Further notes [in<br />

square brackets] are added to assist with context. The highlights of new inform<strong>at</strong>ion are highlighted<br />

in bold.<br />

The l<strong>at</strong>er sections of the paper (indented) recount my grandf<strong>at</strong>her’s withdrawal from Triangle Point.<br />

The heavy machine gun fire from 90 th Company covered this withdrawal and ultim<strong>at</strong>ely aided the<br />

survival of the group; who has been bombed out from their advanced position. Captain Grundy was<br />

not aware th<strong>at</strong> his Company’s actions had saved the lives of some of the men in this group. Three<br />

members of the 17 th Manchesters managed to return to British lines, of whom two were wounded –<br />

including Grandad.<br />

I am gr<strong>at</strong>eful to the staff and former pupils for publishing Captain Leslie Cundy’s letter to Charles<br />

Lynam, his former Head Teacher <strong>at</strong> Oxford Prepar<strong>at</strong>ory School<br />

https://skipperswar.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/july-27th-1916/comment-page-1/<br />

BATTLEFIELD SLEUTH SERIES TIM BELL SEPTEMBER 2016


ETINHEIM 30 TH JUNE 1916<br />

[The 90 th Brigade comprised infantry from the 2 nd B<strong>at</strong>talion Royal Scots Fusiliers with the 16 th , 17 th<br />

and 18 th B<strong>at</strong>talions Manchester Regiment. They were supported by the 90 th Company <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong><br />

<strong>Corps</strong>, with men from the Royal Engineers.]<br />

We had done all the practising for the last fortnight and were now waiting in the assembly trenches.<br />

For us, these consisted of a few small trenches cut in a hollow between two woods about 700 yards<br />

behind our front line. We had arrived in these trenches l<strong>at</strong>e the night before, and had passed a very<br />

cold night indeed. Consequently we were all awake when dawn broke (LC).<br />

No.2 Section leaving @ 4.30pm. No.4 4.40. No.3 4.50 No. [5] pm. The first party arriving in assembly<br />

trenches behind CAMBRIDGE COPSE [near Maricourt] where we stayed all night. Everything was<br />

quiet during the night. [This must only refer to German artillery](WD)<br />

The guns had been keeping up a pretty heavy bombardment throughout the night, increasing in<br />

intensity every minute. The fringe of the wood behind us (curiously enough called ‘Oxford Copse’)<br />

was lined with 18-pounders, who were firing over our heads. As they were only 150 yards away, the<br />

noise was deafening.(LC)<br />

90 th Brigade assembly positions near Maricourt. Approxim<strong>at</strong>ely 3,000 yards from their objectives in <strong>Montauban</strong>. The field artillery<br />

guns were positioned in front of Oxford Copse. Crown Copyright


MONTAUBAN ATTACK ON 1ST JULY 1916 – THE FIRST DAY IN THE BATTLE OF THE SOMME<br />

Although we had not been given the time for ‘Zero,’ we judged it was near enough for us to issue the<br />

rum, so an issue of two jars among 150 men was made <strong>at</strong> 5 o’clock. We got word from Brigade<br />

Headquarters th<strong>at</strong> Zero was to be <strong>at</strong> 7.30.(LC)<br />

About this time a heavy ground mist appeared and for some time it looked as if the <strong>at</strong>tack would<br />

have to be postponed. As it was near to 7.30 the Company Commander and I went over to a small<br />

piece of rising ground th<strong>at</strong> was in front of us [assembly trenches were protected by a shallow valley]<br />

to w<strong>at</strong>ch the first wave go over the top [21 st Brigade, including 19 th Manchesters]. Over it went <strong>at</strong><br />

7.30 exactly, and as far as we could see there was only one casualty and it did not sound as if there<br />

was very much hostile rifle fire…(LC)<br />

At 6am we were told th<strong>at</strong> zero [hour] was <strong>at</strong> 7.30am. The first part of the Brigade going over the top<br />

[one hour after] <strong>at</strong> this time [8.30am]. Nos 2 & 4 Sections of the Coy went behind the last waves of<br />

the 2 nd B<strong>at</strong>tn R[oyal] S[cots] Fusiliers [in support of the 16 th & 17 th Manchesters], Nos 1 and 3<br />

Sections behind the Brigade Reserve [18 th Manchesters]. (WD)<br />

At 8.30 I went forward with my servant, and the two other sections followed 50 yards behind,<br />

interval 100 yards, but owing to the weight of our loads we fell behind our appointed place and<br />

found ourselves mixed up with some engineers [201 st Field Company RE]. This ground was made up<br />

l<strong>at</strong>er on, while waiting for our artillery to lift.(LC)<br />

All the men of the Brigade went towards the enemy’s lines <strong>at</strong> a walking pace. (WD)<br />

War Illustr<strong>at</strong>ed July 1916


When about 100 yards off our original front line, we saw th<strong>at</strong> the enemy was putting up a barrage in<br />

No-man’s-land and a lot of our infantry were knocked out going through. When we got right up to<br />

this barrage we made a dash and, as far as I could make out, lost very few men. One of the section<br />

officers, however, was wounded r<strong>at</strong>her badly in the back.(LC)<br />

We found the Boche wire, when we got up to it, had been blown to pieces by our artillery fire and the<br />

trenches themselves had suffered so terribly th<strong>at</strong> it was difficult to tell in wh<strong>at</strong> direction they ran.<br />

[Described as nothing more than a shallow ditch in other sources] I had my first rest here; it was a<br />

hot day, and the packs were beginning to tell on us.(LC)<br />

As it looked as if the Boches were shortening their range, we thought it best not to make too long a<br />

stay <strong>at</strong> this spot and therefore pushed on as far as the [former German strongpoint behind the 2 nd<br />

line] Gl<strong>at</strong>z Redoubt [held by the 19 th Manchesters]. In a few minutes No. 2 section came up [Capt<br />

Grundy must have been with 4 Section]; so far they had only lost three men. (LC)<br />

We lost about 25 men including the <strong>at</strong>tached on the way. (WD)<br />

At this point a party of about 30 Boche prisoners were marched past; all of them apparently in gre<strong>at</strong><br />

fear of their lives! They had all, seemingly, been very much shaken by our bombardment, and in the<br />

trench we were occupying there were many of them lying badly wounded. After a few minutes we<br />

mounted our guns and opened fire on the Boches to the left of <strong>Montauban</strong> [Breslau Point], as the<br />

[55 th ] Brigade there did not seem to have <strong>at</strong>tained its objective.(LC)<br />

All this time our heavy artillery<br />

had been keeping up an intense<br />

bombardment on <strong>Montauban</strong>,<br />

and we could see our infantry<br />

waiting in the open in a long line<br />

[in Railway Valley], ready to go in<br />

when the artillery fire lifted. L<strong>at</strong>er<br />

there seemed to be some<br />

slackening of the fire and our<br />

troops immedi<strong>at</strong>ely went<br />

forward. The whole thing was<br />

done as if on parade. They went<br />

over <strong>at</strong> a steady walk, keeping<br />

their dressing all the time. As far<br />

as we could see, there was no<br />

hostile rifle fire from <strong>Montauban</strong><br />

<strong>at</strong> all and, as yet, no shell fire was<br />

falling on them. [Sustained<br />

machine fire from the<br />

approaches to the village caused<br />

significant casualties to the<br />

Manchester B<strong>at</strong>talions](LC)<br />

War Illustr<strong>at</strong>ed July 1916<br />

I then decided th<strong>at</strong> this would be<br />

the time to get our machine-guns<br />

into <strong>Montauban</strong>, so we went<br />

forward…(LC)


<strong>Montauban</strong> defensive positions. Crown copyright<br />

On arrival <strong>at</strong> MONTAUBAN, our guns were placed in the following positions. 4 guns in or near F Keep<br />

[behind 16 th Manchesters in <strong>Montauban</strong> Alley]. 4 guns in or near C Keep [behind 17 th Manchesters].<br />

2 guns <strong>at</strong> B Keep [the crossroads to Guillemont/Longueval], [?] another 2 guns were placed in<br />

position about C Keep, making 6 in all, 4 guns in reserve by A Keep [near Church]. (WD)<br />

The whole place was literally blown to pieces, and it was with gre<strong>at</strong> difficulty we discovered where<br />

the roads had been. However, somehow or other, we managed to get both sections to A. Keep [west<br />

of the church], where we found some men already busily consolid<strong>at</strong>ing. We had only been there a<br />

few minutes when a Boche machine-gun started traversing the village…(LC)<br />

At about 3.30 the enemy started advancing from the direction of LONGUEVAL between BERNAFAY<br />

WOOD & MARLBORO WOOD but we easily dispersed them with our <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong>s. The enemy then<br />

heavily shelled MONTAUBAN we lost several of our men. MONTAUBAN was continually shelled all<br />

the remainder of the day. About 10p.m., we had news from the front line th<strong>at</strong> the enemy were<br />

<strong>at</strong>tacking. All the guns then put a ribbon fire<br />

round the village. The <strong>at</strong>tack was stopped [in<br />

conjunction with the men of the 16 th & 17 th<br />

Manchesters]. With the exception of shelling<br />

everything was quiet until day break. (WD)<br />

Among the ruins of <strong>Montauban</strong><br />

Just before dusk there seemed to be a small<br />

<strong>at</strong>tack, but it was easily dispersed by rifle and<br />

machine-gun fire. [Captain Grundy must have<br />

remained in A Keep during the German’s evening<br />

counter <strong>at</strong>tack.] (LC)


2ND JULY 1916<br />

At day break there was a mist & the enemy managed to creep up & take the front line unawares.<br />

[The 16 th & 17 th Manchesters were fully aware of the German advance] (WD)<br />

All th<strong>at</strong> night we fired <strong>at</strong> all small<br />

parties of Boches who could be<br />

plainly seen, and as it grew light<br />

we heard the sound of bombs<br />

exploding and found the Boches<br />

were bombing <strong>Montauban</strong> Alley<br />

from the other end. (LC)<br />

There seemed to be about two<br />

B<strong>at</strong>talions <strong>at</strong>tacking. The enemy<br />

managed to get [to] our front line<br />

but were completely stopped by<br />

17 th Bttn Manchester Regiment War Diary. Crown Copyright<br />

the M.G. fire & riflemen from<br />

advancing further. [Confirmed by the 17 th Manchesters War Diary].(WD)<br />

About 7 o’clock the bursting bombs seemed to be very close to one another and… about 30 of our<br />

men jumped out of the trench and started to retire towards us in <strong>Montauban</strong>. (LC)<br />

[This was the advance detachment of A Company, from 17 th B<strong>at</strong>talion Manchester<br />

Regiment, retiring from Triangle Point, when they had used up all their grenades. “Th<strong>at</strong> was<br />

when jumping out of our own trench, sealed behind us <strong>at</strong> Triangle Point, after throwing all<br />

our bombs across the traverse to stop the enemy advancing along the trench. We were<br />

making for the main trench behind us… The N.C.O. in charge <strong>at</strong> this point, a young newly<br />

promoted Corporal, after bayonetting one of the invaders, had given the order to return to<br />

the main trench <strong>at</strong> our rear…”(Priv<strong>at</strong>e A A Bell a bomber with 17 th Manchesters) Lieutenant<br />

Nash of the 16 th Manchesters suggested the Triangle Point detachment had withdrawn <strong>at</strong><br />

the beginning of this German counter-<strong>at</strong>tack <strong>at</strong> 3.30am. The timing of the withdrawal <strong>at</strong><br />

7am is more consistent with the 17 th B<strong>at</strong>talion War Diary and Priv<strong>at</strong>e Bell’s memoirs]<br />

Immedi<strong>at</strong>ely on seeing this, the Boches jumped out of their trenches and started firing on them. We<br />

turned two machine-guns on the Boches and wiped the party completely out, but not before they had<br />

accounted for [almost] all our men.(LC)<br />

[The heavy machine gun fire from the 90 th Company <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Corps</strong> was strong enough for a<br />

small group to safely withdraw from Triangle Point to a shell hole towards the village. “There<br />

were eight of us in th<strong>at</strong> [shell] hole, but there was plenty of room for more; we stayed there<br />

until nightfall – perhaps twelve hours l<strong>at</strong>er.” (A A Bell)]<br />

The wounded in our trench were coming into the dug-out <strong>at</strong> an alarming r<strong>at</strong>e and soon it became<br />

evident th<strong>at</strong> the only people holding the keep were the machine gunners, and we had only two men<br />

per gun. As the bombing <strong>at</strong>tack seemed to be developing, the Company Commander sent a message<br />

back for an artillery barrage. In a short space of time our shells started to come over, bursting in the


valley in front of <strong>Montauban</strong>… [Lieutenant Nash recounted four waves of enemy infantry assaults<br />

before the British artillery bombardment began.](LC)<br />

During the day snipers were busy accounting for several casualties. Their sniper posts were loc<strong>at</strong>ed<br />

and these were wiped out by the <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong>s. (WD)<br />

After this, the <strong>at</strong>tack seemed to fizzle out. Several Boche snipers however, had managed to get into<br />

position in the diagonal trench leading from <strong>Montauban</strong> Alley to <strong>Montauban</strong>. They managed to<br />

cover all the exits from C Keep and they got a number of our walking wounded, who were trying to<br />

get back. [This trench was slightly in advance of the 17 th Manchesters positions, to the east of the<br />

16 th B<strong>at</strong>talion.](LC)<br />

The shelling was fairly heavy throughout the day, but there were no more infantry <strong>at</strong>tacks…”(LC)<br />

At 10am the 2 nd B<strong>at</strong>tn Wiltshire Regt came in to reinforce and <strong>at</strong> night the whole [90 th ] Brigade were<br />

relieved by the 27 th Brigade. The relief of the Coy being completed by 3am, 3 rd Inst [July].(WD)<br />

[Priv<strong>at</strong>e A A Bell was probably helped again by the 90 th <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong> Company -“In the shellhole<br />

when it became dark on the night of the 2 nd we were not absolutely sure whether the<br />

portion of main trench nearest to us was occupied by our troops or not, so it was arranged<br />

th<strong>at</strong> one of us, a volunteer, should go along and, if all was well, to ask the machine gunner to<br />

give the signal “R<strong>at</strong>-ta-ta-t<strong>at</strong>-t<strong>at</strong> – t<strong>at</strong> t<strong>at</strong>”. A volunteer was found and we trooped across to<br />

find our b<strong>at</strong>talion had been relieved and we were eventually conducted some miles to our<br />

own positions.”]<br />

3RD JULY 1916<br />

The Coy then proceeded to HAPPY VALLEY, BRAY, arriving <strong>at</strong> 11a.m. During the whole action we lost<br />

two Officers and 29 Other Ranks also ten men who were <strong>at</strong>tached to us for belt filling purposes.(WD)<br />

CAPTAIN GRUNDY<br />

“Jim” George Leslie Ord Grundy originally served in Gallipoli in 1915, commissioned as a Lieutenant<br />

in the Yorkshire & Lancashire Regiment. Following <strong>at</strong>tachment to the <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong> <strong>Corps</strong> he was<br />

promoted to Captain on 3 rd December 1915. He finished his Service as a Major. Captain Grundy was<br />

Mentioned in Desp<strong>at</strong>ches with the <strong>Machine</strong> <strong>Gun</strong> <strong>Corps</strong>. He retired in 1922 and married Jeanne<br />

Upham Franklin in 1923. They had a son, George Michael Franklin Grundy two years l<strong>at</strong>er. In 1936<br />

Jim was appointed a member of the Tanganyika Legisl<strong>at</strong>ure.


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