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Our infamous West Coast<br />

Editor shares interview<br />

highlights from his<br />

potcast each month.<br />

The owner of the Hitman brand and creator of Chalice discusses<br />

what makes his hash, glass, art and music festival one of the<br />

best attended and regarded cannabis events in the world.<br />

BOBBY BLACK: Last year was my first time going to Chalice and I was<br />

really impressed. Quite possibly the best cannabis event I've been to in<br />

a long time. Not overcrowded, a plethora of entertainment and things to<br />

do and see…just a really mellow, chill vibe. Even the police seemed to<br />

get a kick out of being there.<br />

DOUG DRACUP: Absolutely, man. That's my main concern for Chalice: to<br />

ensure the safety of the attendees. We went above and beyond to be compliant<br />

with the local authorities. We were very transparent with them the<br />

entire time—we made sure the sheriff knew the nature of the event, so<br />

when they walked in, they weren't shocked. I've been in scenarios where<br />

they didn't do their due diligence and the place was fucking raided. You’ve<br />

got to communicate with the police from the get-go and they won't be a<br />

fucking problem. When I try to get away with something, that's when we<br />

could have a problem. What it comes down to is just being shown respect,<br />

compensated for their services and not being in the dark. They knew there<br />

were going be patients donating for different kinds of medicine and all the<br />

different booths really just have different flavors of the same thing. It's all<br />

medicine. As long as we present it that way and make sure that underage<br />

people aren't in the medicating area, then hopefully it will open up the<br />

door for us to throw more events like this closer to Los Angeles and major<br />

cities nationwide.<br />

BB: I remember looking at all the branding that you did—the website, the<br />

promotional materials, the talent and the kits—and thinking, “This must<br />

have cost him a fortune,” because it was really well done. I thought, “I hope<br />

he can break even on this event,” because I know from experience working<br />

at High Times that they were very careful about not overspending so that<br />

the event would be profitable.<br />

DD: Contrary to what people might think, Chalice wasn't a profitable festival.<br />

I've put myself in uncomfortable positions financially to get this to where it is<br />

today…I've made a lot of personal sacrifices. Doing this by raising the money<br />

Showing off the<br />

Chalice judges’ kit.<br />

for it the entire time has been a rollercoaster of emotions, but it makes it all<br />

the more of an accomplishment that we're not reaching into a big pot of gold<br />

to do it. I'm taking a risk to try to improve the quality of these events. I've<br />

helped build the trademark, the name, and what they represent, and that is<br />

the true value. I have faith that what we've built is something of value, something<br />

that the industry looks forward to and that will be hard to top. It could<br />

be over a hundred thousand people attending it within two years. That’s why I<br />

don't want to burn it out—I don't want to do it four times a year. It doesn't really<br />

mean anything when you have an event every month.<br />

BB: Glass Village was something that I think really differentiated the<br />

festival from other cannabis events. I've seen live glass blowing at<br />

events before, but not on this scale—not a whole section of top-name<br />

talent from around the country all together in one place on view for<br />

people to check out and buy their merchandise.<br />

DD: Being someone who's collected pipes for over a decade, I know what it<br />

means to get to shake someone’s hand whose art you smoke out of every<br />

single day. Glass pipe culture is very unique and I'm proud to be a representative<br />

of it and a catalyst for these artists to get their names out there. I'm<br />

also really thankful I have [Glass Village manager] Derek White on the<br />

team—he's got a great reach. I also know a lot of artists personally through<br />

my businesses, so together we're able to put together something quite<br />

unique and beautiful.<br />

M6 J6

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