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Our infamous West Coast<br />
Editor shares interview<br />
highlights from his<br />
potcast each month.<br />
The owner of the Hitman brand and creator of Chalice discusses<br />
what makes his hash, glass, art and music festival one of the<br />
best attended and regarded cannabis events in the world.<br />
BOBBY BLACK: Last year was my first time going to Chalice and I was<br />
really impressed. Quite possibly the best cannabis event I've been to in<br />
a long time. Not overcrowded, a plethora of entertainment and things to<br />
do and see…just a really mellow, chill vibe. Even the police seemed to<br />
get a kick out of being there.<br />
DOUG DRACUP: Absolutely, man. That's my main concern for Chalice: to<br />
ensure the safety of the attendees. We went above and beyond to be compliant<br />
with the local authorities. We were very transparent with them the<br />
entire time—we made sure the sheriff knew the nature of the event, so<br />
when they walked in, they weren't shocked. I've been in scenarios where<br />
they didn't do their due diligence and the place was fucking raided. You’ve<br />
got to communicate with the police from the get-go and they won't be a<br />
fucking problem. When I try to get away with something, that's when we<br />
could have a problem. What it comes down to is just being shown respect,<br />
compensated for their services and not being in the dark. They knew there<br />
were going be patients donating for different kinds of medicine and all the<br />
different booths really just have different flavors of the same thing. It's all<br />
medicine. As long as we present it that way and make sure that underage<br />
people aren't in the medicating area, then hopefully it will open up the<br />
door for us to throw more events like this closer to Los Angeles and major<br />
cities nationwide.<br />
BB: I remember looking at all the branding that you did—the website, the<br />
promotional materials, the talent and the kits—and thinking, “This must<br />
have cost him a fortune,” because it was really well done. I thought, “I hope<br />
he can break even on this event,” because I know from experience working<br />
at High Times that they were very careful about not overspending so that<br />
the event would be profitable.<br />
DD: Contrary to what people might think, Chalice wasn't a profitable festival.<br />
I've put myself in uncomfortable positions financially to get this to where it is<br />
today…I've made a lot of personal sacrifices. Doing this by raising the money<br />
Showing off the<br />
Chalice judges’ kit.<br />
for it the entire time has been a rollercoaster of emotions, but it makes it all<br />
the more of an accomplishment that we're not reaching into a big pot of gold<br />
to do it. I'm taking a risk to try to improve the quality of these events. I've<br />
helped build the trademark, the name, and what they represent, and that is<br />
the true value. I have faith that what we've built is something of value, something<br />
that the industry looks forward to and that will be hard to top. It could<br />
be over a hundred thousand people attending it within two years. That’s why I<br />
don't want to burn it out—I don't want to do it four times a year. It doesn't really<br />
mean anything when you have an event every month.<br />
BB: Glass Village was something that I think really differentiated the<br />
festival from other cannabis events. I've seen live glass blowing at<br />
events before, but not on this scale—not a whole section of top-name<br />
talent from around the country all together in one place on view for<br />
people to check out and buy their merchandise.<br />
DD: Being someone who's collected pipes for over a decade, I know what it<br />
means to get to shake someone’s hand whose art you smoke out of every<br />
single day. Glass pipe culture is very unique and I'm proud to be a representative<br />
of it and a catalyst for these artists to get their names out there. I'm<br />
also really thankful I have [Glass Village manager] Derek White on the<br />
team—he's got a great reach. I also know a lot of artists personally through<br />
my businesses, so together we're able to put together something quite<br />
unique and beautiful.<br />
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