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<strong>The</strong> Business<br />

Executive Suite<br />

Now that you are in charge of both<br />

Screen Gems and SPWA, will they<br />

remain autonomous?<br />

Yeah. <strong>The</strong>y’ll remain autonomous<br />

divisions. I don’t look at SPWA<br />

as a releasing label. SPWA does<br />

operate under the Stage 6 label<br />

for our higher-profile stuff, only<br />

because we didn’t think “Sony<br />

Pictures Worldwide Acquisitions”<br />

was a very good label to put on a<br />

movie to consumers. Screen Gems<br />

obviously will be more focused<br />

on development and production<br />

— SPWA being more of an indiefocused<br />

label, working with<br />

independent producers on either<br />

productions or acquisitions.<br />

How will Screen Gems change<br />

under your leadership?<br />

I think that’s going to evolve,<br />

but I’m not sure it will change.<br />

Screen Gems will fill a valuable<br />

role as a lower- and modestly<br />

budgeted production division<br />

for targeted audiences. We’re<br />

not going to try to be Columbia,<br />

pursuing large tentpole movies<br />

for a wide, wide audience.<br />

TriStar is more of a dramatic,<br />

adult-oriented, literatureoriented<br />

division. <strong>The</strong>re’s a great<br />

space for Screen Gems to operate,<br />

not only in the horror and<br />

urban spaces where it has been<br />

successful, but Clint had success<br />

in other modestly budgeted<br />

targeted movies, from Easy A<br />

to <strong>The</strong> Vow to other movies that<br />

might not feel like big Columbia/<br />

TriStar movies. Certainly,<br />

I’m not looking to make $100 million<br />

movies.<br />

How will SPWA and Stage 6 be<br />

distinct from Screen Gems?<br />

Stage 6 operates within SPWA.<br />

I think SPWA’s going to continue<br />

doing what it’s doing, making<br />

and acquiring interesting and<br />

adventurous movies. <strong>The</strong>re is<br />

some overlap with Screen Gems<br />

product, be it Insidious or Don’t<br />

Breathe or <strong>The</strong> Call — many of<br />

which could be released under<br />

the Screen Gems banner. But it’s<br />

a different group of executives<br />

who’ve had great success, and<br />

I think will continue to pursue<br />

1<br />

1 A scoresheet from Game 5 of the 1965 World Series, which Dodgers fan Bersch<br />

attended with his father. 2 Original Porky’s poster “given to me by writer-director<br />

Bob Clark after we discussed a potential sequel idea.” 3 Bobbleheads<br />

“representing a pet project I want to make about the 1948 [Harlem] Globetrotters.”<br />

4 A box-office chart from the weekend Insidious: Chapter 2 debuted at No. 1.<br />

what they’ve been doing. As an<br />

acquisition entity, SPWA has<br />

branched out to higher-budget<br />

[fare] by acquiring most of the<br />

international rights to Arrival,<br />

which is certainly not a genre<br />

movie, and we’ll continue to do<br />

things like that.<br />

Arrival made more money overseas<br />

than it did domestically. Why didn’t<br />

Paramount take that gamble?<br />

I have no idea. We were circling<br />

the movie at Cannes several years<br />

ago. We were looking to take the<br />

world on the movie, and then<br />

we heard Paramount had stepped<br />

up and bought U.S., Canada and<br />

China. By the time we moved, we<br />

took everything off the table that<br />

we could.<br />

What has been the most profitable<br />

SPWA film to date for you?<br />

Recently, Don’t Breathe [2016] was<br />

extremely profitable for us. It was<br />

a sub-$10 million movie, which<br />

did about $160 million at the box<br />

office. It also helped bring Fede<br />

2<br />

4<br />

3<br />

Alvarez to the studio. He’s now<br />

doing the Girl in the Spider’s Web<br />

movie [for Columbia]. That picture<br />

was a success all the way around.<br />

How would you characterize the<br />

state of indie filmmaking right now?<br />

It’s as robust as I’ve ever seen it.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re has been a huge infusion<br />

of capital and high-net-worth individuals<br />

coming into the space.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re’s some great independent<br />

pictures being made. It feels like<br />

it’s very healthy. We’re all challenged<br />

by the market economics,<br />

the streaming services and<br />

people not going to theaters as<br />

much, but the state of the industry<br />

from a production and a<br />

creative perspective is probably<br />

at an all-time high.<br />

Does the old adage that so-called<br />

“black” movies don’t play overseas<br />

still hold?<br />

I don’t think that’s consistently<br />

true. Movies that speak to a<br />

uniquely American experience<br />

don’t play overseas. Evangelical<br />

Christian movies, as opposed to<br />

biblical movies, might be more<br />

American. Sports movies don’t<br />

play, baseball movies especially.<br />

A lot of dialogue-driven comedies<br />

don’t play because it’s more<br />

American in the humor. So I<br />

think to the extent that African-<br />

American movies speak to a<br />

more Americanized experience,<br />

they won’t play. But I’m sure<br />

you can find numerous movies<br />

with largely African-American<br />

casts that have played big. Get Out<br />

played well overseas, because I<br />

don’t think it spoke to a uniquely<br />

American experience.<br />

Do you ever trade notes or wind up<br />

competing with Sony Pictures<br />

Classics’ Michael Barker and Tom<br />

Bernard at festivals?<br />

We wouldn’t compete, but we<br />

certainly talk to them and coordinate<br />

with them all the time.<br />

Whiplash was an example where<br />

[pre-Sundance] we had bought a<br />

significant percentage of international,<br />

and then they came in at<br />

the festival and bought domestic<br />

rights and most of the remaining<br />

international rights. <strong>The</strong>y’ve<br />

released a number of movies<br />

that we’ve bought either at festivals<br />

or otherwise, like Austenland,<br />

which we bought at Sundance.<br />

Sometimes we buy pictures<br />

in concert with them, sometimes<br />

buying international where they<br />

then stepped up for domestic,<br />

and sometimes buying pictures<br />

that they then agreed to distribute<br />

for us. <strong>The</strong>re’s a wide variety<br />

of ways we can work with our<br />

sister division.<br />

You are one of the only high-level<br />

executives to survive the Sony<br />

hack. What was the fallout for you?<br />

I don’t know how much of my<br />

personal information was out<br />

there because I didn’t want to<br />

know. I signed up for the Cadillac<br />

version of LifeLock for myself<br />

and my kids. I think everybody’s<br />

more careful with what they put<br />

in writing. Doing less by email<br />

and more by phone is far more<br />

efficient anyway. We have a great<br />

workspace here where we’re all<br />

contained on a floor, and I’m on my<br />

feet all the time in other people’s<br />

offices because I find face-to-face<br />

communication far more effective<br />

in getting things done.<br />

THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER<br />

40<br />

FEBRUARY 7, 2018

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