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<strong>Newsletter</strong> No.91. 1st <strong>September</strong> <strong>2017</strong>.<br />

1. Local and National News.<br />

There is plenty of walking to be done this month with our own walks and those<br />

in the South Pennines Walk and Ride Festival programme. If you fancy the<br />

Calder Woodland Way you can do it all in one day or do it over 4 days on walks<br />

led by <strong>Rochdale</strong> group members. No excuse for not getting out this month<br />

with so much on offer.<br />

<strong>Ramblers</strong> Exhibit at the Rooley Moor Neighbourhood Forum event.


The annual field event by the RMNF went well on the 13th August with<br />

hundreds of people turning up to enjoy the day. The <strong>Ramblers</strong> had a stand<br />

manned by Freda Moody and myself to promote walking which attracted a<br />

good deal of interest. We also promoted other groups such as the Long<br />

Distance Walkers Association, <strong>Rochdale</strong> Field Naturalists, Lancashire Wildlife<br />

Trust and many others. The handout for Walking for Health was very popular<br />

as was the <strong>Ramblers</strong> programme. We look forward to attracting some new<br />

members.<br />

The Autumn and Winter Programmes <strong>2017</strong>-2018.<br />

The programmes are now complete so a big thank you to those members who<br />

volunteered to lead walks and to Gill and David, and Maureen and David for<br />

putting the programmes together. We will continue to use electronic mailing<br />

where possible but will send out printed copies of the programmes on the 20th<br />

<strong>September</strong> to those members who do not have access to the Internet and to<br />

members who still prefer a printed copy. Please let us know before the 20th if<br />

you want us to send you printed copies. Walk details will also be on the main<br />

<strong>Ramblers</strong> website at the Group Walks Finder and on our own website as soon<br />

as possible.<br />

<strong>Rochdale</strong> Group Committee Vacancies.<br />

Footpath Secretary, Countryside Secretary, <strong>Newsletter</strong> Editor, Minutes<br />

Secretary<br />

We already have a vacancy for a Minutes Secretary but by the end of the<br />

Summer we will be looking for a new Footpath Secretary, a Countryside<br />

Secretary and a <strong>Newsletter</strong> Editor. We want to identify these new post holders<br />

before our AGM in November so that we can have a period handing over<br />

responsibilities. If you would like to take on any of these roles please contact<br />

either our Chairman Richard or myself as soon as possible.


Coach Trip to Richmond, North Yorkshire, Saturday 23rd <strong>September</strong>.<br />

Will everyone going on the trip please be at Manchester Road (cul de sac near<br />

Dixons Funeral Parlour) before 8.30am so the coach can depart on time.<br />

We will travel directly to Calfhall Woods near Richmond, about 2hours, where<br />

the first of the two walks starts. Public toilets.<br />

David and Maureen Butterworth will lead this walk of about 10 miles which<br />

goes to Marske and then back to Richmond. This should finish around 4pm or<br />

a little before.<br />

The coach will drop the second group at Yorke Square car park in Richmond.<br />

David and Gill Hollas will lead a walk of about 7 miles. This should finish a little<br />

after 3pm.<br />

Both walks cover parts of the Coast to Coast Trail and end in Richmond which<br />

is classic market town with a range of shops, tearooms and pubs to suit most<br />

tastes. Coach will depart 5pm and arrive back in <strong>Rochdale</strong> about 7pm.<br />

All 48 seats are now booked but keep checking with Joan in case any seats<br />

become available.<br />

The South Pennines Walk and Ride Festival.<br />

This year’s South Pennines Walk and Ride Festival will take place between<br />

Saturday 9th <strong>September</strong> and Sunday 24th <strong>September</strong>.<br />

We have 4 members, Mick Chatham, Andrew Underdown, Richard Gibbons<br />

and Jim Hargreaves who are all leading walks in this years Festival and<br />

hopefully our members will join the walks and take advantage of the other<br />

varied walks on offer in this years programme.<br />

Mick Chatham is leading 4 circular walks from Brighouse to Walsden titled<br />

WALKING THE CALDER WOODLAND WAY. These are on 11th, 12th, 18th, 19th<br />

<strong>September</strong>. Mick is also leading the TODMORDEN CENTENARY WAY in two<br />

parts on 16th and 17th <strong>September</strong>.<br />

Jim Hargreaves is leading a walk near Marsden, the STANDEDGE CLASSIC on<br />

14th <strong>September</strong> and Richard Gibbons is leading a walk in Todmorden to<br />

GREAT BRIDE STONES on 17th <strong>September</strong>, both of these walks are part of<br />

<strong>Rochdale</strong> <strong>Ramblers</strong> summer programme.<br />

Andrew Underdown is leading a Long Distance Walkers Association walk as<br />

part of the Festival on Thursday 14th <strong>September</strong>. Details : CALDER<br />

WOODLAND WAY : 25 miles ( severe) a challenging 8/9 hour linear walk at a<br />

brisk pace for experienced walkers. It follows the route of the Calder Valley<br />

starting at Brighouse Railway Station and finishes at Walsden Railway<br />

Station.8.30am start. It involves 4,700 feet of ascent.


Jean Norman from the Dunwood Park Nordic Walkers invites members to an<br />

ARCHAEOLOGICAL NORDIC WALK on 10th <strong>September</strong> when Archaeologist<br />

Mike Nevell will be talking about the industrial archaeology of Crompton Moor<br />

( booking for this event is essential : cost £3 per person )<br />

Further information on these walks can be found<br />

on http://www.walkandridefestival.co.uk/ and Richard and David Butterworth<br />

have some walk booklets.<br />

Manchester City Centre Walk : 11am Saturday 7th October.<br />

Following a quest to offer more diversity and social opportunities Richard has<br />

arranged for a professional tour guide to lead a 2 hour walk in the city tracing<br />

our industrial past with the theme "POLITICS and POVERTY". John Alker will<br />

lead the walk and it promises to be an interesting diversion from our usual<br />

programme and following the walk we will be able to partake in some<br />

refreshments (to be arranged). The finer details have yet to be arranged but<br />

John can deliver the walk up to approx 30 people and the more members we<br />

get the less cost to the individual. Richard anticipates that the cost per<br />

individual will be about £4. Please contact Richard on his usual numbers to<br />

confirm your participation. If successful and there is enough interest we can<br />

arrange further walks in our walks programme.<br />

<strong>Rochdale</strong> <strong>Ramblers</strong> Theatre Group.<br />

Following members interest in setting up a <strong>Ramblers</strong> theatre group to sample<br />

some local productions this autumn, Richard is asking if any like minded<br />

member would help him to organise and promote this social activity. In the<br />

first instance it would be useful to establish numbers who are interested in<br />

being part of the theatre group so please confirm with Richard if you are<br />

interested.<br />

Group Committee Meeting and Postal Night.<br />

Our next Group Committee meeting is at 7.30pm, Wednesday 20th <strong>September</strong><br />

at the Unitarian Church, Clover Street, <strong>Rochdale</strong>. 7pm for the mail out team.<br />

Bollington Walking Festival.<br />

The Festival takes place between 23rd <strong>September</strong> and the 1st October with 46<br />

free guided walks in the Cheshire Peak District over 9 days. For more<br />

information see bollingtonwalkingfestival.co.uk<br />

2. Out in the Countryside.


Success with Off Road Bikers.<br />

On Sunday 13th August Police seized two uninsured vehicles used to<br />

transport off-road motor bikes up to the moor from Rooley Moor Road. On the<br />

same day in a separate incident the Police seized an off-road motor bike<br />

leaking petrol into a feeder stream to Naden reservoirs and the rider was<br />

reported for summons.<br />

Scout Moor Wind Farm Expansion Plan.<br />

Peel Energy have not appealed against the Secretary of States decision to<br />

refuse the 14 turbines in the Rossendale area and time has now run out. We<br />

don’t know at this stage whether the 2 planned for Scout Moor in <strong>Rochdale</strong> will<br />

still go ahead.<br />

3. I Didn’t Know That.<br />

The Coiners of Cragg Vale.<br />

Bell House, former residence of “King” David Hartley.<br />

The Cragg Vale Coiners were a band of counterfeiters based in Cragg Vale.<br />

They produced fake gold coins in the late 18th century to supplement small<br />

incomes from weaving.<br />

Led by "King" David Hartley, the Coiners obtained real coins from investors<br />

sometimes on the promise that they could "grow" the investment by smelting<br />

the original metals with base ores. They removed the coins genuine edges and<br />

milled them again, collecting the shavings. The coins were only slightly<br />

smaller. They then melted down the shavings to produce counterfeits. Designs<br />

were punched into the blanks with a hammer and coining kit and the fake<br />

coins circulated. The Cragg Coiners were so successful because Yorkshire<br />

was quite isolated from central England.


In 1769, William Dighton, a public official, investigated the gang. A Coiner,<br />

James Broadbent, betrayed the gang and Hartley was arrested.<br />

Isaac Hartley, "King" David's brother planned to have Dighton killed. On 10th<br />

November 1769, two Coiners, Matthew Normanton and Robert Thomas,<br />

ambushed Dighton in Halifax and shot him.<br />

Charles Watson-Wentworth, a former Prime Minister, was tasked with hunting<br />

down the killers. He had thirty Coiners arrested by Christmas Day. David<br />

Hartley was hanged on 28th April 1770, and buried in Heptonstall. Isaac<br />

escaped and lived until 1815. As for Dighton's murderers, Normanton was<br />

hanged on 15th April 1775 and Thomas was hanged on 6th August 1774.<br />

Check it out on James’s walk on the 9th.<br />

4. Our Walks in <strong>September</strong>.<br />

Close Gate bridge, Marsden. Jims walk on the 14th.<br />

We have 7 group walks this month, details as follows :-<br />

1. On Saturday 2nd join James Tew for our leisurely walk Redisher Woods. The<br />

walk starts at Laurel Street, Tottington, near Town Meadows (the bus terminus<br />

for <strong>Rochdale</strong> buses is nearby). Toilets available in the library or main street.<br />

Route :- The walk takes us along the Kirklees Trail towards Greenmount.<br />

Across the golf course towards Hawkshaw, along Hawkshaw Lane to Redisher<br />

Woods. Return via Summerseat and Brandlesholme. Leisurely walk not more<br />

than 5 miles. 1pm start.<br />

2. On Sunday 3rd it’s the Kirklees Roamer with Tony Bevan. Route :- The walk<br />

will be taking in great views, woodland, forest, pasture, waterfalls and villages.<br />

It is an undulating walk taking in many stiles and a visit to the centre of<br />

Holmfirth for a short break and toilet stop. Moderate. 10.5 miles. 10.30am start.


3. On Saturday 9th James Colgan introduces us to the The Coiners of Cragg<br />

Vale. Route :- Please note the Starting Point and details are still the same as<br />

on the website (Withens Clough Reservoir Car Park) but please use post<br />

code HX7 5UB. This is a walk exploring the history of the infamous Cragg Vale<br />

Coiners. The apparent tranquility of Mytholmroyd belies a murky past<br />

involving an 18th century counterfeiting gang, the ‘Cragg Vale Coiners’. This<br />

gang's activities were said to be so damaging that they threatened to wreck<br />

Britain's currency. We will visit the homes of the leaders of the gang, visit<br />

landmarks, discuss the history of the gang and the broader<br />

counterfeiting issues of the times. Moderate. 8 miles. 11am start.<br />

4. On Thursday 14th James Hargreaves does the Standedge Classic. Route :- .<br />

This walk starts North on the Pennine Way over Millstone Edge (1470`) to<br />

Oldgate Moss and then over the old pack horse route to Close Gate Bridge via<br />

Marsden Moor.We then ascend Pule Hill (1433`) before returning to Brun<br />

Clough Reservoir via Redbrook Reservoir. The walk offers a combination of<br />

packhorse trails and a national trail with potentially classic wide South<br />

Pennine panoramas. Intermediate walk. Approx 7.5 miles 11am start.<br />

5. On Sunday 17th Richard Gibbons takes us up to Great Bride Stones. Route<br />

:- The walk leaves the Hare and Hounds Car Park skirting Harley Wood over<br />

Hudson Moor to join the Calderdale Way. We then head to Shore before<br />

reaching our lunch stop at the waterfall at the entrance to Eleanor's Wood.<br />

After lunch we proceed over Bride Stones Moor to the Stones which are<br />

outcrops of odd shaped millstone grit rocks over half a mile in length at 1,400<br />

feet above sea level. Richard will give you a little history and tell you some<br />

myths about this fascinating area. We return to the car park via Windy Harbour<br />

and Whirlaw before touching on the Calderdale Way again at Hole Bottom.<br />

This is a scenic valley walk with some steep sections but on well established<br />

paths. Moderate. 7 miles. 10.30am start.<br />

6. On Saturday 23rd it’s our coach trip to Swaledale and Richmond, meeting<br />

instructions above.<br />

Route :- David &Maureen walk. Departing from Round Howe car park (toilets)<br />

and crossing the Reeth Road the walk follows the valley of the River Swale to<br />

Applegarth Farm and continues towards Marske. Returning towards<br />

Applelgarth the route takes us up Deep Dale to follow the ridge above<br />

Whitcliffe Scar with fine views up and down Swaledale. After visiting<br />

Willance's Leap we return to central Richmond by Whitcliffe Farm and Hurgill.<br />

10 miles Moderate.<br />

7. On Thursday 28th we visit Marsden with Eric Lord. Route :- The walk starts<br />

from the station car park at Marsden. It will be a circular walk around Marsden


incorporating the wild side of Butterley Reservoir ( A Walk on the Wild Side ?)<br />

which should give good hillside views over Marsden, the Colne and<br />

Wessenden valleys. The route takes us up Spring Head Lane to Nether Wood<br />

Farm, through Park Gate Clough, past Slaithwaite Hall and back down to the<br />

canal. At this point we’ll cross the A62 to pick up the Colne Valley circular<br />

path, past Scout Quarries, up to Binn Edge and then drop down to Butterley<br />

Reservoir to follow the path through the Wild Wood (a recent planting by the<br />

Colne Valley Tree Society, expanding the White Rose forest up to the<br />

moorland fringe). At the dam we drop down the steps to join the track through<br />

Crowther’s Mills and head back into Marsden village.<br />

The walk is a mixture of lanes and paths, the majority of which are good but<br />

expect some muddy patches, overgrown sections and short steep descents<br />

and climbs, as we pass through the Cloughs and Wild Wood sections. Bring a<br />

walking pole for the rougher bits which include stream crossings, one of<br />

which is very slippery. Intermediate walk. 7 miles. 11am start.<br />

<strong>Rochdale</strong> Group Membership at the 31st August 218.<br />

The photograph of Bell House is the copyright of John Darch, the photograph<br />

of Close Gate Bridge is the copyright of Bryan Pready and both photographs<br />

are licensed for re-use under the Creative Commons License.<br />

Roy Thorniley.<br />

Footpath and Countryside Secretary on behalf of the Committee.

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