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Coffey, Dennis 03.09 - University of Massachusetts Lowell Libraries

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A: Well your Uncle Reggie is very ah (--)<br />

D: That’s right. He was one who was telling me about what a bum he was, you know.<br />

A: I see. I see.<br />

D: And so it’s fascinating to see the evolution that occurred. And I think, I think it really<br />

did occur when Frank Keefe came to as a Planning Director. (A: Okay) You know he<br />

saw these divisions, and <strong>of</strong> course Frank, very aggressive, very positive, very sure <strong>of</strong><br />

himself obviously, and with good cause. And one <strong>of</strong> the things he realized was, that he<br />

saw this division and he said this isn’t good, because the redevelopment guys have a lot<br />

to <strong>of</strong>fer, the planning people have a lot to <strong>of</strong>fer. We need to get them together. And so<br />

periodically, once a month or so, not in any strict schedule, he’d get all the group together<br />

and we’d just talk about things. And it was just amazing when we sat down and talked<br />

and listened to each other how much common interest there really was. And I think<br />

Frank helped to turn the corner within the CDA, and ah, at least to the staff level. Now<br />

the CDA Board history, that’s a whole other thing, you know, which, which took a bad<br />

turn I think, you know? But you know, and then Taupier came along and wiped him out.<br />

A: Right. Right.<br />

D: And at the time that was probably the right thing. You know, I think the CDA Board<br />

was too embroiled in their own politics to have been a continuing force. But what you’re<br />

trying to get to <strong>of</strong> course is the Park. And ah (--)<br />

A: But you know, I love to hear those stories <strong>of</strong> kind <strong>of</strong> the politics <strong>of</strong> that (D: That<br />

time, yah), I don’t know if you want to call it the pre-Park era, or (D: Right, that’s right)<br />

whatever. So now you were talking about the divisions between like the planners and the<br />

LRA holdovers. (A: Right. Yup) And do you remember specific instances where there<br />

was friction?<br />

D: Well like I said, you know, there was, there was within the LRA side <strong>of</strong> the house<br />

they wanted to do more <strong>of</strong> the “cement city.” They wanted to tear down more <strong>of</strong> the<br />

Acre. They wanted to really fill in the canals. (A: Yah) The Connector Extension (A:<br />

Okay) that they thought was great. And you know, the planners on the other hand you<br />

know, saw a different perspective, a review <strong>of</strong> things. And it was around that time <strong>of</strong><br />

course that Pat Mogan was involved with the Model Cities Neighborhood, (A: umhm)<br />

along with Jack Tavares and some wonderful people over there. And so Bob and myself,<br />

Bob Malavich and myself started spending some time with Pat.<br />

A: You did.<br />

D: Yah, and kind <strong>of</strong> un<strong>of</strong>ficially and you know, learning more about what he was<br />

thinking and his concept, and it was consistent with what we were thinking and doing,<br />

and trying to do. And you know we were doing all <strong>of</strong> these studies. We had each got a<br />

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