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Former Barenaked Ladies Frontman Steven Page Visiting Windsor to Chat About Mental Health By April Savoie Steven Page is best known as the fun comedic frontman of Canada’s Barenaked Ladies, but the singer, who’s spent the last 10 years on a noteable solo career, still has a lot more to say. In 2011 he revealed that he suffers from bipolar disorder and that he has gone through periods of selfmedicating in order to relieve the symptoms. Since leaving Barenaked Ladies in 2009, he has been able to focus more on managing and treating his illness and has cited his sons as being his source of strength for keeping healthy and continuing treatment. His latest album Discipline: Heal Thyself, Pt. II was released last year with the lead off single White Noise and he’s been speaking openly about mental health at speaking engagements. He’ll be speaking, and performing, at The Canadian Mental Health Association Windsor-Essex County Breakfast of Champions on May 7. He spoke with 519 about mental health and how music has helped him through his journey. Does speaking about your own issues help you in some way? I guess it does in some ways. I usually go into some of these events thinking ‘who am I to be talking to people about my story, what does it matter and is this something that just I’m just doing this for my own sense or my own mental wellness,’ but at the end of the day I do these events and the just feed off the feeling in the room. It makes it all worth it. The fact that you can open yourself up and be vulnerable around people who are also either experiencing those same kinds of issues, have a past issue themselves or they have family members or co-workers and they just don’t know how to talk to them about it. Those are huge issues to have and open up about. They say that one in five people suffer from mental health struggles and that’s just the one in five who actually admits it. We all deal with it because we are surrounded by it. We live a normal life with people who are struggling, whether it’s with very serious problems and mental health struggles like schizophrenia or there are the very common ones of depression and anxiety. Every one of those mental health condition can kill. When people take their own lives or make horrible lifeending decisions when they’re suffering from the same depression and anxiety that everybody else sometimes suffers from, I’ve learned to take it seriously. I think some of that rubs off on other people and it gives other people the opportunity to speak out about their own struggles and I’m happy to be able to do that. That’s a gift that has been given to me to be able to help other people with that. When did you first discover you had a mental health issue? I guess I was in my early 20s when I was diagnosed first, but apart from taking medications on and off, I really didn’t take it particularly seriously until I was in my 30s. I think one of the things that made me look the wrong way at my depression was that I saw it as almost like a badge of honor, like I was the tortured artist. It was somehow, something romantic and if I took too much medication, I might lose what made me special as an artist. It’s all rubbish, but it took me a long time to come to terms with that and it’s time I wasted. Then I realized it’s not because of my mental health issues that I am an artist. I’m an artist because that was what I came up with to combat my mental health struggles. Looking back, I realize now that music has been the thing that kept me going. I seek appropriate treatment and take care of myself better now and I’m more productive than I ever was. Do you think that it was hard for you in the position that you’re in for people to believe that you had a mental health issue? I bet you’re right. I bet people David Bergman did think it was some kind of a curtain. You might be okay with showing some symptoms in front of other people, but sometimes those symptoms might make people find you unreliable and that is terrifying. Whether you’re running a business like the Barenaked Ladies or a bank, if your mental health issues are getting in the way or people are afraid that those mental health issues might get in the way of other people’s livelihoods, safety or security, then you’re going to want to hide it. That’s where stigma comes in and that’s what we’re in the process now trying to shift the perceptions about. We can live productive, satisfying lives and we are learning to get through those issues. They’re always fixed - people always expect a quick fix. People who aren’t suffering with mental health issues tell you to go get some help and then come back once you’re on your medication or whatever else and pick up where we left off. That’s not always how it goes. It really is up to the person who is suffering to learn their own boundaries and that can be a difficult thing for the rest of the world to catch up with. I know my husband had that really bad bout of depression. He was medicated to a point where I really didn’t recognize him anymore. Did you ever struggle with medication like that? Absolutely! That the thing really. Not every medication works the same way for every person and that’s exactly what happened to me. When I first was diagnosed, I went to the doctor and he gave me a prescription and I took it for a while and felt kind of numb. I didn’t feel like myself and eventually I stopped taking them, or I took them long enough to feel like okay now I feel better, and I stopped taking them without working with a doctor’s help. They either taper you off or find a different medication, but there are lots of different treatments out there. For some people, medication isn’t the answer. Sometimes medication is something to help you to just get out of bed. You can couple it with other practices, whether it’s therapeutic, talk therapies or just diet and exercise or whatever else works, but work with professionals. Also if the professional you’re working with - whether it’s your family doctor or it’s a psycho therapist or a psychiatrist - and if they’re not listening to you, go find somebody else. You have the right as a patient to find the care that you need, and what happens so often, and I could speak to this personally, is that you take medications that doesn’t work or make you feel worse in a certain way and It turns you off of taking care of yourself. What you end up doing is just kind of playing Russian roulette. We’ve had the same thing happen to us. We’re actually leery about seeing doctors because we’ve had so many negative or bad experiences with them not listening to what’s happening. It’s really frustrating and I think it’s really hard to see a psychiatrist. But if you’re looking to get medication, you need to get it from a psychiatrist or you can get it from your family doctor. Your family doctor is dealing with a million other conditions from a lot of other patients too, so they may not be as up-to-date or have antidotal evidence as someone who works strictly with mental health issues. With a psychiatrist, sometime you have to wait eight to 10 months to be able to see one and then it kind of feels like you’re going to audition for them and show them if you’re sick enough for their time. It shouldn’t be like that. I spoke with Brian Wilson a couple months back and it was a pretty obvious that he was still having a hard time with the issues that he has, but you guys are connected by that song. I wrote that song when I was 19 or 20. It was not really about depression at the time because I hadn’t been diagnosed yet. I didn’t fully realize that the song truly is about depression. It was about the power of music to help lift you out of that. I have since had the opportunity several times to get to meet Brian and even sing with him, which has been a huge thrill, but there is a connection for sure. I have always felt connected to his story in a way. That’s really what the song is about. “Discipline: Heal Thyself, Pt. II” has a lot to say. Your lyrics are still – and will always be witty, but this time you have an edge to what you’re saying. I think that edge has always been there, but I got angry when I see people who are being victimized and that’s the thing that bothers me that most. That’s how you get a song like White Noise or I get angry at myself for things which has always been a theme in my songs, but I think that’s something people can relate to: your frustration with not living up to your expectations of yourself. I don’t feel half as angry as I used to when I was a younger man, that’s for sure. Life has been pretty good to me. Tickets to the Breakfast of Champions are $50 each and are available at windsoressex.cmha.ca.
Trauma and Empathy Collide in New Play ‘Nothing But The Truth’ By Michael K. Potter Trauma affects people in diverse ways – sometimes unpredictably, and at unexpected times. A traumatized person can seek meaning, hope, intimacy, acceptance and peace by doing things that might seem unreasonable, even crazy, to others. So what can happen when two traumatized people end up in a relationship together? And what if that relationship has well-known professional boundaries, in which one person clearly has more power than the other? And what can happen when those boundaries are crossed? In the explosive new play, Nothing But The Truth, by up-and-coming playwright Eve Lederman, we get to see just how this sort of situation can become toxic in a relationship between a therapist and her patient. Even though the patient, Rachel Klein (played by Jessie Gurniak), and the therapist, Dr. Marilyn Morgenstern (played by Michele Legere), are sincere people who act with good intentions (from their points of view), and even though they develop a close relationship, they end up locked in a legal battle that plays out three years later. What went wrong? Why? As in Diana Son’s Stop Kiss, Lederman’s play moves back and forth between two different points of time, as we learn the causes and consequences of the incident. In the therapy sessions, we see Rachel begin to open up to this new therapist, learn to trust her, even come to see her as a substitute mother. In the deposition room three years later, we discover that each of them is confused and frustrated about how things fell apart. We also get to experience the perspectives of other characters in their orbit. Marilyn’s lawyer, Stan Goldman (played by Paul Salmon), is an oldschool gentleman who’s been at this game for a long time. Over the years he’s developed a cynicism that suggests he doesn’t believe either woman’s story – and may not care what really happened. Rachel’s lawyer, Carmen Garcia (played by Shayna Reiss), is young and green, but on the ascent, having fought the sexism of her profession time and time again. She may believe her client’s story – but should she? Finally, there’s Dr. Jerry Adler (played by Joey Ouellette), Marilyn’s supervisor who, like Stan, has been around long enough that he’s naturally suspicious. But he’s known Marilyn longer than anyone else involved. Is what he’s hearing consistent with the woman he knows? Trauma is terrible to bear by yourself; finding someone who can truly empathize with you can seem like a gift, almost a miracle. But empathy without judgment, without wisdom, can be dangerous. We can become lost in each other, prone to fantasy, unable to see when the boundaries that protect us have fallen. And when they fall, the damage may be irreparable. Post Productions will present Eve Lederman’s Nothing But The Truth at The Shadowbox Theatre on April 19, 20, 25, 26, and 27. Doors open at 7:30 PM for an 8:00 show. Tickets are $20 in advance at postproductionswindsor.ca – or at the door, if available. The Headshot Company and Kieran Potter APRIL EVENTS IN THE 519 Brantford April 15 - JIM Clayton Quartet & Sonja Gustafson, Sanderson Centre (8pm) April 17 - Ashley MacIsaac & Fiddler Extraordinaire, Sanderson Centre (8pm) April 17 - Chubby Checker, Sanderson Centre (2pm) April 18 - The Ultimate Garth Brooks Tribute, Sanderson Centre (7:30pm) April 25 - Classic Albums Live & CCR Chronicle Vol. 1, Sanderson Centre (8pm) Chatham April 12, 13, 14 - En Pointe & Just Dance, Chatham Capitol Theatre (8am , 12pm) April 19, May 04 - 80s GONE WILD: Hair Metal Tribut, Fortresss Tavern (10pm) April 27 - Simply Queen, Chatham Capitol Theatre (8pm) Kitchener-Waterloo April 05 - Memphis and The King, Schwaben Club (7:30pm) April 05 - Stephen Fearing, The Registry Theatre (8pm) April 05, 06 - Classical and Beyond, Centre In The Square (8pm) April 06, 13, 20 - Parent V Wood Matinees, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (1pm, 2pm) April 06 - Jesse Pitcher, Strykerz Kitchen & Bar (6pm) April 06 - Dwayne Gretzky, Maxwell’s Concerts & Events (7:30pm) April 07 - Vintage Flight, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (4pm) April 08 - Piano Battle, Centre In The Square (7:30pm) April 09 - PJ Masks Live! Save the Day, Centre In The Square (6pm) April 11 - Dave Menard, Strykerz (6pm) April 12 - Phil Naro Band, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (9pm) April 12 - My Son The Hurricane, Maxwell’s Concerts & Events (7:30pm) April 13 – KFUN’s 10th Anniversary Video Dance Party, Maxwell’s Concerts & Events (8pm) April 13 - Ones The Beatles #1 Hits, Centre In The Square (8pm) April 14 - Rob Aitkin, TWB Co-operative Brewing (2pm) April 19 – Soulstack, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (9pm) April 19 - Bach St. Matthew Passion, Centre In The Square (7:30pm) April 19 - Kitchener Show, Hack’s Taps & Grill (9pm) April 20 - LoFi Mind 45 Vinyl Release Party, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (4pm) April 20 - Fog Blues & Brass Band, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (9:30pm) April 21 - Jamie Warren CD Release Party: All of the Above, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (2pm) April 24 - Tokyo Police Club, Maxwell’s Concerts & Events (7:30pm) April 26, 27 - Live By Request: Vol. 2: Music From the Stage & Screen, Centre In The Square (8pm) April 27 - Ginger St James & Dylan Wickens, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (9:30pm) April 27 - The Divines 5 Year Anniversary Show, Rhapsody Barrel Bar (3pm) April 29 - The Slackers, Maxwell’s Concerts & Events (7:30pm) April 30 – Giselle, Centre In The Square (8pm) London April 04 - Robbie G, Old East 765 (8pm) April 04 - Dead Tired: Full Vol Release Tour, Rum Runners (8pm) April 04 - Mike Edel, London Music Club (7:30pm) April 04 - Marc Jordan, The Aeolian (7pm) April 04, 05, 06, 07 - 1949 by David French, Palace Theatre (2pm , 8pm) April 05 – Ookay, London Music Hall (10pm) April 05 - Handsome Scoundrels/Hometown/Sweater Puppies, Call The Office (9pm) April 05 - Vienna Boys Choir, The Aeolian (7pm) April 06 - Allison Au Jazz Quartet, The Aeolian (7pm) April 06 - Ramon Tapia(say what, Octopus) Eddie Santini, Rum Runners (10pm) April 06 - Nimway / Suburbs / Fat Robots, Call The Office (9pm) April 06 - The Firehall Reunion 2019, London Music Hall (6:30pm) April 07 - The Music of G.I. Gurdjieff and Thomas de Hartmann, Wolf Performance Hall (2pm) April 07 - Tiny Moving Parts w/ Free Throw, Worlds Greatest Dad & Certainty, Rum Runners (7pm) April 08 - Colin James, Budweiser Gardens (7:30pm) April 09 - Lennie Gallant , The Aeolian (7pm) April 10 - The Ennis Sisters, The Aeolian (7pm) April 11 - YBN Nahmir, London Music Halln(7pm) April 11 - Jenn Grant LIVE, The Aeolian (7pm) April 11 - Jerry Seinfeld, Budweiser Gardens (7:30pm) April 12 – OSSTF, District 11 (7pm) April 12 - Stephane Wrembel Trio, London Music Club (7pm) April 12, 13, 14- Mirror Mirror, Wolf Performance Hall (2pm, 6pm, 7pm) April 13 - Harlem Globetrotters, Budweiser Gardens (2pm) April 17 - Beartooth & The Disease Tour Canada, London Music Hall (6pm) April 19 - What A Drag [The Glitter Ball], Old East 765 (8pm) April 19 - Homesick: Emo Night London at Rum Runners Rum Runners (10pm) April 19 - Life In Vacuum, Call The Office (9pm) April 19 - Sabrina Benaim’s Slumber Party Tour w/ Clementine Von Radics, Rum Runners (7pm) April 20 - The Matadors, Old East 765 (7pm) April 20 - JVST SAY YES at System Saturdays, Rum Runners (10pm) April 21 - Neko Case, London Music Hall (7pm) April 23 - Alice In Chains, Budweiser Gardens (8pm) April 25, 26, 27, 28, May 01, 02, 03, 04 - Painting Churches by Tina Howe, Palace Theatre (2pm, 8pm) April 26 - Painting Churches by Tina Howe, Palace SUBMIT YOUR EVENTS AT 519MAGAZINE.COM Theatre (8pm) April 27 - Pride Men’s Chorus London presents Divas!, The Aeolian (7pm) April 27 - Thomas Rhett w/ Dustin Lynch, Budweiser Gardens (7:30pm) April 28 - FCLMA Jazz, World & Classical Music Awards Gala, The Aeolian (6pm) Thomas Rhett headlines Budwesier Gardens on April 27 with guest Dustin Lynch. April 28 - Necronomicon wsg Blood of Christ and Talbotville Gore Rocks, Old East 765 (7pm) April 28 - Metric with July Talk, Budweiser Gardens (6:50pm) April 30 - Royal Wood, London Music Hall (6:30pm) April 30, May 03 - Raine Hamilton, The Aeolian (7pm) Sarnia April 05 - Brother Leeds, Cheeky Monkey (7pm) April 12, 13 - Cabaret 42: A Trip to the Library, Theatre Forty Two (7:30pm) April 27 - Name that Tune 2.0, Bottoms Up Bar & Grill (7pm) April 30, May 01, 02, 03 - The Cake, Theatre Forty Two (7:30pm) Windsor April 05, 06, 07, 11, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20 - Girl in the Goldfish Bowl, Kordazone Theatre (2pm, 8pm) April 06 - Six Degrees, The Thirsty Butler (9pm) April 06 - Fiddlin Around, Capitol Theatre Windsor (8pm) April 06 - TEAZE Resurrection 2019 w/ Dusty D’Annunzio, Olde Walkerville Theatre (8pm) April 06 - Memphis Jones & The King, The Chrysler Theatre (7:30pm) April 07 - University Wind Ensemble Concert, Capitol Theatre Windsor (7:30pm) April 11 - Haydn The Hooch, Capitol Theatre Windsor (7pm) April 12 - Burton Cummings and Band, Caesars Windsor (9pm) April 13 - Windsor Choral Festival 2019 United In Song, Capitol Theatre Windsor (7:30pm) April 14 - Border City Brass, The Thirsty Butler (2pm) April 14 - The Golden Hands Before God 10 Year Reunion, Phog Lounge (4pm) April 17 - Theresa Caputo, Caesars Windsor (8pm) April 18 - Max Marshall // Kylie Fox // Karen Morand, Phog Lounge (8pm) April 18 - Cancer Bats, Dom Polski Club (8pm) April 19 - League of Wolves / F.Scott & The Nighthawks Take Ontario Tour, Phog Lounge (9pm) April 19 - Allison Brown & The Assembly Line , Green Bean Cafe (8pm) April 25 - Aziz Ansari: Road To Nowhere, Caesars Windsor (8pm) April 26 - Saint Lo., Phog Lounge (10pm) April 27 - Brad Paisley, Caesars Windsor (9pm) April 29 - Giselle, Capitol Theatre Windsor (7:30pm) April 30 - 2019 Windsor-Essex Playwriting Contest, The Shadowbox Theatre (8am)
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