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Metal band Godsmack hit the road<br />

across Canada and the US this month<br />

with a stop in the <strong>519</strong> at London’s<br />

Budweiser Gardens on May 9. The<br />

tour, with Danish band Volbeat, starts<br />

in BC and makes its way across the<br />

country to Quebec.<br />

Godsmack is running high with<br />

its latest album When Legends Rise,<br />

hitting the Top 10 on the Billboard<br />

charts in Canada. It’s a departure for the<br />

band, sounding more like a hard rock<br />

album than a metal release - in much<br />

the same way the self-titled Metallica<br />

black album was for that band.<br />

Fans are loving the new sound and<br />

drummer Shannon Larkin couldn;t be<br />

happier. We spooke with him on the<br />

phone while on tour in Germany.<br />

Later this year you’re doing a<br />

few gigs in Russia and the Czech<br />

Republic. Touring places like<br />

Russia still isn’t quite everyday<br />

commonplace, but it seems like it’s<br />

getting easier than it used to be.<br />

Have you ever played a show when<br />

you felt uncomfortable?<br />

I’ve done shows where I had cracked<br />

ribs and that felt really uncomfortable,<br />

but as far as crowds go, no. I’ve never<br />

done any show with any band where I<br />

felt uncomfortable with the crowd.<br />

There were a couple times in my<br />

early years when my metal band was<br />

opening for a punk band, so the crowd<br />

booed us off the stage, but those are<br />

trials and tribulations that one must<br />

go through when you’re a lifelong<br />

musician.<br />

As far as Godsmack, I’ve never felt<br />

uncomfortable, except for one time in<br />

LA. The radio station there had said<br />

that we would play our new single<br />

if we close the show at this Festival<br />

in the city and that meant going on<br />

after the Foo Fighters. If you know<br />

anything about the LA concerts, that’s<br />

called the clean-up act, so basically the<br />

Foo Fighters are headlining, but they<br />

needed a clean-up act to go on after<br />

that. Of course we said “Hell No”,<br />

because everyone knows there are<br />

certain bands that you can’t go on after,<br />

like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Foo<br />

Fighters and Metallica. So we said no,<br />

but management and all the powers<br />

that be forced it. So we go on and it<br />

was fucking uncomfortable having to<br />

play for all the Foo Fighters fans in<br />

LA. They were walking out as we were<br />

still playing. That’s the only show that<br />

I’ve ever felt uncomfortable at in the<br />

Godsmack world.<br />

You’re going to be back in North<br />

America in <strong>April</strong> with a pretty goodsized<br />

tour in Canada. Do you have<br />

any fun memories of Canada from<br />

previous tours?<br />

I do. I feel that every time we<br />

go to Canada it’s always been<br />

special because the crowds up there,<br />

particularly in the places that aren’t the<br />

major cities, are awesome. They don’t<br />

get many American bands that come<br />

and play for them, so all my memories<br />

are of the crowds and just feeling this<br />

amazing energy coming from them,<br />

like a freshness that’s not jaded.<br />

When you play in the major cities<br />

in America, even though they’re great<br />

shows, you come through it’s not<br />

really anything that super special, but<br />

in Canada, man, every show just feels<br />

super special and the people seem<br />

super appreciative of us. As musicians<br />

and fans of music, that feels so good.<br />

We’re experiencing that here in Europe<br />

in the smaller towns we played like<br />

Malmö, Sweden.<br />

You’ve been in Godsmack for 16<br />

years. Does it feel like it’s been that<br />

long?<br />

No it doesn’t. I think the reason for<br />

that is because we put records out four<br />

years apart. I joined in late 2002 and<br />

then the record “Faceless” came out the<br />

next year. If you look at it, every single<br />

record has been a four-year space in<br />

between. Three of those four years<br />

are writing, recording and touring our<br />

asses off. And hat time just flies. So<br />

that breather time, which is that one<br />

year of the four, we’re able to take that<br />

and slows things right down a little bit.<br />

Do you like the slower times where<br />

you can relax a little bit?<br />

I do, but I don’t particularly relax<br />

because Tony and I have a blues band<br />

together. I tell all my musician friends<br />

and people that care to ask about<br />

that. I’ve always had side projects<br />

and in every band, I’ve always had a<br />

side project in which I can play with<br />

different musicians, in different genres<br />

explore and experiment. When I do<br />

come back to the big drum set and rock<br />

hard, I appreciate the genre that I am in<br />

much more.<br />

I know you’ve been playing since<br />

the late seventies when you were just<br />

a wee little guy. And I bet that little<br />

guy had a few dreams that’s you<br />

have met over the years.<br />

Oh my God, I’m that dude. I<br />

started playing clubs when I was 13<br />

and I always had the dream. I’m not<br />

bullshitting here, but I have never<br />

worked a regular job. My work has<br />

always been playing drums. From<br />

the time I started playing in clubs at<br />

13, I just never looked back and have<br />

been paid for it along the way. The<br />

week I turned 18, I moved out from<br />

my parents and I was paying my own<br />

way. From then on my musical dreams<br />

have gone far and beyond. I got the<br />

play with Black Sabbath this one time<br />

when Michael Bordin couldn’t do the<br />

gig. I got the call and somehow I’m<br />

walking on stage with Tony Iommi,<br />

Ozzy Osbourne and Geezer Butler and<br />

that was something that even that little<br />

version of me never dreamed of.<br />

Godsmack took a twist with the<br />

music on When Legends Rise. That<br />

new hard rock sound is a big change.<br />

Why change at this point?<br />

We all crossed that threshold of<br />

being 50. Sully was the last one to turn<br />

50 years old. He had originally come in<br />

with the idea eight years ago because<br />

all of his favorite bands worked with<br />

outside writers and they never made<br />

the same record over and over and over<br />

again. Our records come four years<br />

apart and we don’t want to continue<br />

making the same sounding records<br />

forever, so for eight years he’d thrown<br />

the idea at us and it just never came<br />

to be. However, once every one of us<br />

turned 50, he really felt that a change<br />

of maturity needed to happen. He came<br />

to us and said he wanted to work with<br />

some different writers for the first time<br />

and we’re all for it. So he came back<br />

and played us the first song which<br />

was Bulletproof that he wrote with<br />

Eric Ron, who was also producing our<br />

record. We heard it and it still sounds<br />

like Godsmack, we feel that it still has<br />

our sound, but was more mature.<br />

It’s less aggressive and the production<br />

is a complete 180. We’ve always been<br />

old school, trying to record just the<br />

four of us on analog. We embraced<br />

this new production using outside<br />

sounds and outside writers. We’re not<br />

faking it on this record. We’re not<br />

young and angry and pumped full of<br />

piss and vinegar like we were 16 years<br />

ago when I joined, so it’s a reflection<br />

of that. Sully writes mainly about his<br />

personal life. If you look at his lyrics,<br />

it’s the story of his life on every record<br />

- from the first one all the way up to the<br />

new one. It’s always been his band and<br />

the lyrics have always been about him<br />

and I feel that that’s why the band is so<br />

successful. We’re really happy at this<br />

point and we all have children. While<br />

we’re not these super rich rocks stars,<br />

at least we don’t have to worry about<br />

a mortgage or car payments. The last<br />

thing I want to do is stand on the stage<br />

at 50 years old and pretend I’m 30 and<br />

still angry and pissed off at the world.<br />

I’m not. People can say what they want<br />

about how we changed the sound of the<br />

band, but we’re trying to be real with<br />

ourselves.<br />

Canadian fans really embraced<br />

the new album - you rose to the top<br />

10 here.<br />

Hell yeah man, we hit another<br />

milestone. I mean we had two number<br />

ones in a row, both Bulletproof and<br />

When Legends Rise went number<br />

one not only on active radio, but at<br />

mainstream, which we’ve never done<br />

before. That proves, at least to the four<br />

of us, that it works and there are people<br />

out there that that can see through the<br />

bullshit and can tell what it’s worth.<br />

This is not a sell-out for some money -<br />

we have the money. We sold 20 million<br />

records; we don’t need to sell-out for<br />

money or something stupid like that.<br />

I can speak for me as a drummer.<br />

It’s a physical gig and one of the things<br />

that I fell in love with about playing the<br />

blues was that it doesn’t kill my body<br />

like Godsmack does. And so when we<br />

got this new set of music, I noticed that<br />

it doesn’t beat my muscles and bones<br />

up as much but yet I can still express<br />

myself and feel real about it.<br />

Bulletproof and When Legends<br />

Rise are real rock anthems. Do you<br />

find that songs like that make the<br />

audience a little more like a giant fist<br />

pounding rock crowd than a mosh<br />

pit thrasher show?<br />

Anybody who has been in a pit or<br />

that is a little older like me that went<br />

through the era of thrash metal and<br />

jumped into a pit knows that you can’t<br />

really watch the band when you’re<br />

in that pit. You have to keep your<br />

head up and watch your back when<br />

you’re thrashing around. It’s a way of<br />

releasing aggression and it’s very busy<br />

and I got many bloody noses coming<br />

out of the pit. So you keep your head<br />

up and you watch your back. The<br />

attention is on your ears. The band<br />

is making the aggression and you’re<br />

letting it out with the fans. When I’m<br />

looking out there and I’m seeing a big<br />

mosh pit I know all those people are<br />

getting off and they’re there for that<br />

reason - to release that energy - but<br />

they’re not really watching the band<br />

or listening to what we’re playing.<br />

They’re not hanging on every word<br />

of the singer or feeling every note that<br />

the guitar player is putting out. They’re<br />

there for a different reason.<br />

Now when we play big shows and<br />

the mosh pit doesn’t break out, I can<br />

see that everybody’s got their fists in<br />

the air and I look out and all the eyes<br />

are on us. It feels more like we are one<br />

with the crowd. I love the black metal,<br />

death metal and thrash metal. I was in<br />

that era when it was off being invented,<br />

I love it so much. But now, I also find<br />

myself listening to a lot of classic rock<br />

and blues for enjoyment. My personal<br />

tastes have changed, but I can still<br />

go back and throw on Slayer “Hell<br />

Awaits” and it takes me right back to<br />

that time, but I just can’t take as much<br />

of it now. I’ll listen to three or four of<br />

my favorite songs and then I’m back to<br />

listening to Oasis.<br />

Does it still feel like Godsmack?<br />

I know you guys were ready for<br />

this change when Sully presented it<br />

to you. But when you went into the<br />

recording session for When Legends<br />

Rise is still feel like Godsmack?<br />

What helped was that we did it at<br />

our own recording studio. We made<br />

the last three records there, so even<br />

though it was a brand new producer,<br />

brand new songs, a whole new fresher<br />

sound and a different way of recording,<br />

we felt at home. Everybody was super<br />

comfortable and there was no red light<br />

fever or fear in there. It still felt like a<br />

Godsmack recording and Eric Ron fit<br />

right in with us personality-wise. He’s<br />

such a cool guy and a great producer.<br />

What else is ahead for you guys<br />

this year?<br />

That’s an easy answer - touring,<br />

touring, touring. When we fly home<br />

from this five week European run,<br />

we’ll have two days at our houses and<br />

then we fly over to start the next leg.<br />

It’s like that until later in 2020.

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