519 Magazine - April 2019
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Metal band Godsmack hit the road<br />
across Canada and the US this month<br />
with a stop in the <strong>519</strong> at London’s<br />
Budweiser Gardens on May 9. The<br />
tour, with Danish band Volbeat, starts<br />
in BC and makes its way across the<br />
country to Quebec.<br />
Godsmack is running high with<br />
its latest album When Legends Rise,<br />
hitting the Top 10 on the Billboard<br />
charts in Canada. It’s a departure for the<br />
band, sounding more like a hard rock<br />
album than a metal release - in much<br />
the same way the self-titled Metallica<br />
black album was for that band.<br />
Fans are loving the new sound and<br />
drummer Shannon Larkin couldn;t be<br />
happier. We spooke with him on the<br />
phone while on tour in Germany.<br />
Later this year you’re doing a<br />
few gigs in Russia and the Czech<br />
Republic. Touring places like<br />
Russia still isn’t quite everyday<br />
commonplace, but it seems like it’s<br />
getting easier than it used to be.<br />
Have you ever played a show when<br />
you felt uncomfortable?<br />
I’ve done shows where I had cracked<br />
ribs and that felt really uncomfortable,<br />
but as far as crowds go, no. I’ve never<br />
done any show with any band where I<br />
felt uncomfortable with the crowd.<br />
There were a couple times in my<br />
early years when my metal band was<br />
opening for a punk band, so the crowd<br />
booed us off the stage, but those are<br />
trials and tribulations that one must<br />
go through when you’re a lifelong<br />
musician.<br />
As far as Godsmack, I’ve never felt<br />
uncomfortable, except for one time in<br />
LA. The radio station there had said<br />
that we would play our new single<br />
if we close the show at this Festival<br />
in the city and that meant going on<br />
after the Foo Fighters. If you know<br />
anything about the LA concerts, that’s<br />
called the clean-up act, so basically the<br />
Foo Fighters are headlining, but they<br />
needed a clean-up act to go on after<br />
that. Of course we said “Hell No”,<br />
because everyone knows there are<br />
certain bands that you can’t go on after,<br />
like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Foo<br />
Fighters and Metallica. So we said no,<br />
but management and all the powers<br />
that be forced it. So we go on and it<br />
was fucking uncomfortable having to<br />
play for all the Foo Fighters fans in<br />
LA. They were walking out as we were<br />
still playing. That’s the only show that<br />
I’ve ever felt uncomfortable at in the<br />
Godsmack world.<br />
You’re going to be back in North<br />
America in <strong>April</strong> with a pretty goodsized<br />
tour in Canada. Do you have<br />
any fun memories of Canada from<br />
previous tours?<br />
I do. I feel that every time we<br />
go to Canada it’s always been<br />
special because the crowds up there,<br />
particularly in the places that aren’t the<br />
major cities, are awesome. They don’t<br />
get many American bands that come<br />
and play for them, so all my memories<br />
are of the crowds and just feeling this<br />
amazing energy coming from them,<br />
like a freshness that’s not jaded.<br />
When you play in the major cities<br />
in America, even though they’re great<br />
shows, you come through it’s not<br />
really anything that super special, but<br />
in Canada, man, every show just feels<br />
super special and the people seem<br />
super appreciative of us. As musicians<br />
and fans of music, that feels so good.<br />
We’re experiencing that here in Europe<br />
in the smaller towns we played like<br />
Malmö, Sweden.<br />
You’ve been in Godsmack for 16<br />
years. Does it feel like it’s been that<br />
long?<br />
No it doesn’t. I think the reason for<br />
that is because we put records out four<br />
years apart. I joined in late 2002 and<br />
then the record “Faceless” came out the<br />
next year. If you look at it, every single<br />
record has been a four-year space in<br />
between. Three of those four years<br />
are writing, recording and touring our<br />
asses off. And hat time just flies. So<br />
that breather time, which is that one<br />
year of the four, we’re able to take that<br />
and slows things right down a little bit.<br />
Do you like the slower times where<br />
you can relax a little bit?<br />
I do, but I don’t particularly relax<br />
because Tony and I have a blues band<br />
together. I tell all my musician friends<br />
and people that care to ask about<br />
that. I’ve always had side projects<br />
and in every band, I’ve always had a<br />
side project in which I can play with<br />
different musicians, in different genres<br />
explore and experiment. When I do<br />
come back to the big drum set and rock<br />
hard, I appreciate the genre that I am in<br />
much more.<br />
I know you’ve been playing since<br />
the late seventies when you were just<br />
a wee little guy. And I bet that little<br />
guy had a few dreams that’s you<br />
have met over the years.<br />
Oh my God, I’m that dude. I<br />
started playing clubs when I was 13<br />
and I always had the dream. I’m not<br />
bullshitting here, but I have never<br />
worked a regular job. My work has<br />
always been playing drums. From<br />
the time I started playing in clubs at<br />
13, I just never looked back and have<br />
been paid for it along the way. The<br />
week I turned 18, I moved out from<br />
my parents and I was paying my own<br />
way. From then on my musical dreams<br />
have gone far and beyond. I got the<br />
play with Black Sabbath this one time<br />
when Michael Bordin couldn’t do the<br />
gig. I got the call and somehow I’m<br />
walking on stage with Tony Iommi,<br />
Ozzy Osbourne and Geezer Butler and<br />
that was something that even that little<br />
version of me never dreamed of.<br />
Godsmack took a twist with the<br />
music on When Legends Rise. That<br />
new hard rock sound is a big change.<br />
Why change at this point?<br />
We all crossed that threshold of<br />
being 50. Sully was the last one to turn<br />
50 years old. He had originally come in<br />
with the idea eight years ago because<br />
all of his favorite bands worked with<br />
outside writers and they never made<br />
the same record over and over and over<br />
again. Our records come four years<br />
apart and we don’t want to continue<br />
making the same sounding records<br />
forever, so for eight years he’d thrown<br />
the idea at us and it just never came<br />
to be. However, once every one of us<br />
turned 50, he really felt that a change<br />
of maturity needed to happen. He came<br />
to us and said he wanted to work with<br />
some different writers for the first time<br />
and we’re all for it. So he came back<br />
and played us the first song which<br />
was Bulletproof that he wrote with<br />
Eric Ron, who was also producing our<br />
record. We heard it and it still sounds<br />
like Godsmack, we feel that it still has<br />
our sound, but was more mature.<br />
It’s less aggressive and the production<br />
is a complete 180. We’ve always been<br />
old school, trying to record just the<br />
four of us on analog. We embraced<br />
this new production using outside<br />
sounds and outside writers. We’re not<br />
faking it on this record. We’re not<br />
young and angry and pumped full of<br />
piss and vinegar like we were 16 years<br />
ago when I joined, so it’s a reflection<br />
of that. Sully writes mainly about his<br />
personal life. If you look at his lyrics,<br />
it’s the story of his life on every record<br />
- from the first one all the way up to the<br />
new one. It’s always been his band and<br />
the lyrics have always been about him<br />
and I feel that that’s why the band is so<br />
successful. We’re really happy at this<br />
point and we all have children. While<br />
we’re not these super rich rocks stars,<br />
at least we don’t have to worry about<br />
a mortgage or car payments. The last<br />
thing I want to do is stand on the stage<br />
at 50 years old and pretend I’m 30 and<br />
still angry and pissed off at the world.<br />
I’m not. People can say what they want<br />
about how we changed the sound of the<br />
band, but we’re trying to be real with<br />
ourselves.<br />
Canadian fans really embraced<br />
the new album - you rose to the top<br />
10 here.<br />
Hell yeah man, we hit another<br />
milestone. I mean we had two number<br />
ones in a row, both Bulletproof and<br />
When Legends Rise went number<br />
one not only on active radio, but at<br />
mainstream, which we’ve never done<br />
before. That proves, at least to the four<br />
of us, that it works and there are people<br />
out there that that can see through the<br />
bullshit and can tell what it’s worth.<br />
This is not a sell-out for some money -<br />
we have the money. We sold 20 million<br />
records; we don’t need to sell-out for<br />
money or something stupid like that.<br />
I can speak for me as a drummer.<br />
It’s a physical gig and one of the things<br />
that I fell in love with about playing the<br />
blues was that it doesn’t kill my body<br />
like Godsmack does. And so when we<br />
got this new set of music, I noticed that<br />
it doesn’t beat my muscles and bones<br />
up as much but yet I can still express<br />
myself and feel real about it.<br />
Bulletproof and When Legends<br />
Rise are real rock anthems. Do you<br />
find that songs like that make the<br />
audience a little more like a giant fist<br />
pounding rock crowd than a mosh<br />
pit thrasher show?<br />
Anybody who has been in a pit or<br />
that is a little older like me that went<br />
through the era of thrash metal and<br />
jumped into a pit knows that you can’t<br />
really watch the band when you’re<br />
in that pit. You have to keep your<br />
head up and watch your back when<br />
you’re thrashing around. It’s a way of<br />
releasing aggression and it’s very busy<br />
and I got many bloody noses coming<br />
out of the pit. So you keep your head<br />
up and you watch your back. The<br />
attention is on your ears. The band<br />
is making the aggression and you’re<br />
letting it out with the fans. When I’m<br />
looking out there and I’m seeing a big<br />
mosh pit I know all those people are<br />
getting off and they’re there for that<br />
reason - to release that energy - but<br />
they’re not really watching the band<br />
or listening to what we’re playing.<br />
They’re not hanging on every word<br />
of the singer or feeling every note that<br />
the guitar player is putting out. They’re<br />
there for a different reason.<br />
Now when we play big shows and<br />
the mosh pit doesn’t break out, I can<br />
see that everybody’s got their fists in<br />
the air and I look out and all the eyes<br />
are on us. It feels more like we are one<br />
with the crowd. I love the black metal,<br />
death metal and thrash metal. I was in<br />
that era when it was off being invented,<br />
I love it so much. But now, I also find<br />
myself listening to a lot of classic rock<br />
and blues for enjoyment. My personal<br />
tastes have changed, but I can still<br />
go back and throw on Slayer “Hell<br />
Awaits” and it takes me right back to<br />
that time, but I just can’t take as much<br />
of it now. I’ll listen to three or four of<br />
my favorite songs and then I’m back to<br />
listening to Oasis.<br />
Does it still feel like Godsmack?<br />
I know you guys were ready for<br />
this change when Sully presented it<br />
to you. But when you went into the<br />
recording session for When Legends<br />
Rise is still feel like Godsmack?<br />
What helped was that we did it at<br />
our own recording studio. We made<br />
the last three records there, so even<br />
though it was a brand new producer,<br />
brand new songs, a whole new fresher<br />
sound and a different way of recording,<br />
we felt at home. Everybody was super<br />
comfortable and there was no red light<br />
fever or fear in there. It still felt like a<br />
Godsmack recording and Eric Ron fit<br />
right in with us personality-wise. He’s<br />
such a cool guy and a great producer.<br />
What else is ahead for you guys<br />
this year?<br />
That’s an easy answer - touring,<br />
touring, touring. When we fly home<br />
from this five week European run,<br />
we’ll have two days at our houses and<br />
then we fly over to start the next leg.<br />
It’s like that until later in 2020.