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et’s start from the beginning, Erica.<br />

Where are you from? I was born in<br />

Burbank, California, and I was raised in<br />

the San Fernando Valley. I had a really<br />

wonderful, unique upbringing. I’m the<br />

oldest of three girls. My dad was born<br />

in Nogales, Arizona, which is right<br />

on the border of Arizona and Mexico.<br />

His parents, my grandparents, were Lfrom Mexico, and when the border was initially erected in that area, the<br />

residents of Nogales—at the time it was Nogales, Mexico—were asked,<br />

“Do you want to be American citizens, or do you want to remain Mexican<br />

citizens?” They elected to be American. And, so the border was literally<br />

constructed right through the middle of town, and to this day, you have<br />

a Nogales, Mexico and a Nogales, Arizona. My dad grew up in Nogales,<br />

Arizona. He was one of ten children. He went to Tucson for high school<br />

and to Los Angeles for college.<br />

How did your parents meet? My mom was living in Los Angeles. She<br />

was actually born in London, England. Her side of the family is Jewish.<br />

When she was very young, her parents felt like London was so devastated<br />

by the war and it was not a great place to raise their two children, so<br />

they left. First, they went to Toronto, and then to Brooklyn before they<br />

finally settled in the Los Angeles area. But she ended up meeting my<br />

dad and they fell in love. So, I grew up in a very blended household,<br />

which included both big and small family experiences. We had Mexican,<br />

American, Catholic, and Jewish influences. It was a wonderful way to<br />

grow up.<br />

What were you like as a kid? I was really into the Girl Scouts. By the<br />

time I was in high school, I was on the San Fernando Valley Girl Scout<br />

Council. It was operated by a board of directors, and they always reserved<br />

two seats for girl members. I was advised to join that board, and it was<br />

my first introduction to the nonprofit sector from a behind the scenes<br />

perspective. It was a wonderful experience for me, and I continued to do<br />

that even in college. I went to UCLA and studied sociology with a minor<br />

in public policy. I was always very interested in the intersection of race,<br />

class, gender, and other social stratification systems. But also, policy and<br />

the law. Through my time at UCLA, I was continuing to explore those<br />

interests, and ultimately decided that I wanted to go to law school.<br />

Tell us about that. I had a very dear roommate; we were randomly<br />

assigned to each other and became great friends. We both had decided to<br />

go to law school. During our junior year, she died very tragically of a brain<br />

aneurism. That set me back. It was a lot to process. I ended up taking a<br />

year off after graduation to work for a prestigious law firm that handles<br />

appeals. I worked closely with an attorney who was blind. I was essentially<br />

her assistant. Whenever she needed to conduct legal research, we would<br />

walk down to the law library, she’d explain to me what she was looking<br />

for, and I would find the books and read out loud to her. She would<br />

record it and then draft her brief and prepare for oral arguments. It was<br />

a tremendous education for me. Since it was appellate law, I was learning<br />

the progression of the lawsuit.<br />

And where did you go to law school? It was UC Berkeley. And it was<br />

an interesting time to be there. It was certainly post-Prop 209, so the<br />

demographics of the school were not incredibly diverse. There were only<br />

a handful of students of color. And there was a sense that those of us<br />

of color had to sort of work together to support each other; and to help<br />

recruitment, and help with retention of other students in order to ensure<br />

diversity in the law school, because it was so evident<br />

to us, and it was certainly to me, that the benefit of<br />

diversity expands the learning for everyone, right?<br />

I was reluctant to get involved with the student<br />

organizations because I was so focused on getting<br />

my education. But there was another student there,<br />

who is now my husband, who encouraged me to<br />

become more engaged. So, I ended up becoming a<br />

founding member of the Center for Social Justice,<br />

which was a new organization that we started.<br />

We put together an incredible judicial panel,<br />

which included Justice Sotomayor, before she was<br />

appointed to the Supreme Court.<br />

So, what came next? I began an internship at one of<br />

the country’s oldest public interest law firms called<br />

The Center for Law in the Public Interest. I had the<br />

opportunity to work on what went on to become a<br />

couple of historic cases in California. One of them on<br />

behalf of foster children who were not receiving the<br />

health and mental health services they were entitled<br />

to receive under state law. And the other, which really<br />

changed the methodology of serving children in the<br />

foster care system. During my time there, I learned<br />

the impact of litigation as a mechanism for changing<br />

society for the greater good. In those cases, it meant<br />

changing the foster care system, and changing<br />

the way that education resources are distributed<br />

throughout the state of California for the benefit of<br />

all school children.<br />

What else did you work on there? We also started<br />

developing innovative ways of looking at parks<br />

and open space and other public resources like<br />

that through the lens of civil rights and through<br />

the lens of public health. It’s called the urban park<br />

movement. And so, this was a new way of achieving<br />

environmental justice. We sort of flipped it around.<br />

Instead of looking at environmental justice in<br />

terms of the communities of color and low-income<br />

communities having more than their fair share of<br />

environmental degradation, we were looking at<br />

ensuring, or trying to figure out ways to ensure,<br />

that they would have a fair share of environmental<br />

benefits. It was a different way of looking at it.<br />

And you took on another very important job:<br />

becoming a mom. Yes, that’s right. It was around this<br />

time that we had our first son. We had our second<br />

son a few years later. I was fortunate to be working in<br />

an environment where I was able to keep my foot in<br />

the door and continue working on a project by project<br />

basis so that I could be home almost full-time. It was<br />

really important for me when my kids were young to<br />

do that. To this day, when I speak with young women<br />

or college students and they ask me, “Is it really<br />

possible? Can you have it all? Can you be a lawyer<br />

and be a mom?” I say, “Yes. It absolutely is possible to<br />

have it all, but not necessarily all at the same time.”<br />

And so, you do have to think about your priorities >><br />

AUG/SEP <strong>2020</strong> | <strong>SLO</strong> <strong>LIFE</strong> MAGAZINE | 33

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