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•Umar Labdo<br />
Recently, Ondo state governor gave the<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> herdsmen ultimatum to vacate<br />
the state forest reserves, how will you<br />
react to it?<br />
I have said it several times and I will say it<br />
again that the quit notice is wrong, it is illegal<br />
and it is not good if there is going to be peaceful<br />
co-existence of members of one federation.<br />
There are many southerners, including Yoruba<br />
living in the north, in my own state, in my<br />
town, doing their own business in peace,<br />
making their own livelihood and no one is<br />
asking them to vacate. Moreover, there are<br />
criminals in all the tribes. Yahoo boys are<br />
mainly Yoruba, drug pushers are mainly Igbo,<br />
now if for the sake of argument, banditry or<br />
kidnapping is found mainly among the <strong>Fulani</strong>,<br />
that doesn’t mean that all the <strong>Fulani</strong> are<br />
criminals. Generalizing and stereotyping all<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> is very wrong, it is dangerous because<br />
the leaders in the south are indirectly telling<br />
their people or followers to attack <strong>Fulani</strong>. And<br />
naturally, when they attack the <strong>Fulani</strong>, they<br />
will have to defend themselves which will lead<br />
to chaos.<br />
If there are criminals among the <strong>Fulani</strong>, they<br />
should be dealt with according to the law. We<br />
have law enforcement agents, it is their job to<br />
fish out criminals, prosecute them and punish<br />
them so that the society will be healthy. But<br />
just because crimes are committed at your<br />
backyard, you then lose all sense of reasoning<br />
and start casting aspersions on people like<br />
that.. That is not helpful at all.<br />
You rightly pointed out that there are bad<br />
eggs among every tribe including the <strong>Fulani</strong>,<br />
as an association, have you ever taken any<br />
step to fish out the bad ones and what was<br />
done to them?<br />
We tried to counsel our people or advise<br />
them. We interact, enlighten them and make<br />
them understand that times have changed and<br />
they should come out of the bush and engage<br />
in ranching. They can not continue moving<br />
around as it was 50 or 100 years ago. We let<br />
them know that they are Nigerians who have<br />
helped in the development of Nigeria’s<br />
economy. We told them you people are being<br />
cheated because your children don’t go to<br />
school, you don’t drink potable water, no<br />
electricity, and you don’t enjoy amenities<br />
provided by government. And so, it is to your<br />
own detriment if you continue living in the<br />
bush. Come out, let the government help you<br />
settle down. And we believe the RUGA<br />
Programme of the Federal government<br />
should be implemented. That was what we<br />
told them.<br />
But fishing out criminals among them is<br />
not our job. If we see criminals, we will run<br />
away. How can we fish out criminals? But we<br />
cautioned them not to mingle with criminals<br />
or harbour them, if they do that, they are<br />
inviting trouble to themselves. If they see<br />
criminals, they should report them.<br />
These people you see in the bush are normal,<br />
rational human beings, they are not poor, they<br />
We’ll <strong>retaliate</strong><br />
if herders are<br />
banned from<br />
south<br />
—<strong>Fulani</strong><br />
association<br />
• Conspiracy, competition, politics responsible for crisis<br />
• FG should muster political will to stop this madness<br />
• Southern Nigeria is depopulated; RUGA must be revisited<br />
for lasting peace<br />
are going with their own wealth. Those cows<br />
you see are worth millions, so even <strong>Fulani</strong> you<br />
see in the bush don’t welcome criminality. If it<br />
is somebody sitting idle, unemployed or very<br />
poor, maybe that one will be tempted to<br />
commit crime but not somebody who is<br />
pursuing a very noble profession, herding<br />
livestock inherited from his forefathers for<br />
centuries. <strong>Fulani</strong> are very proud about herding<br />
cattle, and to those who are living in the bush,<br />
they are living normal lives. But to us who are<br />
educated and living in the cities, we know<br />
certainly, that way of life is outdated and they<br />
should be reintegrated into the society so that<br />
they will benefit from the social amenities<br />
provided by government and the society too<br />
will benefit from them.<br />
Do you think <strong>Fulani</strong> herdsmen were<br />
profiled as criminals because they still<br />
believe in this old way of life by living in the<br />
forest?<br />
50 years ago, they were living in the bush<br />
but no one called them criminals. In the 60’s,<br />
and even before then, the colonial government<br />
recognized the <strong>Fulani</strong> as great contributors<br />
to the economic development of Nigeria. That<br />
was why you saw their images in the Nigeria’s<br />
pound inherited by the naira. Look at the naira,<br />
you will see pictures of cows in the naira. Go<br />
to the old postage stamps issued by the colonial<br />
authorities you had pictures of the <strong>Fulani</strong> and<br />
cows. So everybody knows that <strong>Fulani</strong> are not<br />
criminals. 50 years ago, no one called <strong>Fulani</strong><br />
criminals. All those who lived with the <strong>Fulani</strong><br />
in Central, Western and Eastern Nigeria were<br />
praising them. It is only now, due to<br />
combinations of factors that we found<br />
ourselves in this situation.<br />
What are those factors and why?<br />
First, there are a lot of politics in it. For<br />
example, Governor, Rotimi Akeredolu who is<br />
a senior lawyer (SAN), was issuing a statement<br />
that he knew was contrary to our Constitution.<br />
He wanted to be a hero of his people, playing<br />
to the gallery. He knew that his people were<br />
angry with the <strong>Fulani</strong> because certain criminal<br />
elements among them were causing damage<br />
to their farms so he wanted to gain cheap<br />
popularity. How can you say Nigerians should<br />
leave your state or leave your region? What<br />
about your people living in other people’s<br />
regions? Our region is bigger than the whole<br />
of Southern region, South-South, South-East,<br />
South-West) put together. They are not up to<br />
half of Northern Nigeria. So somebody now<br />
tells us to go back home, you also go back<br />
home. Your people are here, living peacefully<br />
despite all the propaganda against us, the<br />
northerners. Yes, we have banditry, kidnapping,<br />
but some southerners prefer to live in the north.<br />
There is one dangerous thing which I don’t<br />
think the southerners have realized. Southern<br />
Nigeria is actually depopulated. Thousands<br />
By Bashir Bello, Kano<br />
Professor Umar Labdo is the National Secretary of <strong>Fulani</strong><br />
Development <strong>Association</strong> of Nigeria, FULDAN and also Professor<br />
of Islamic Political Thoughts at the Yusuf Maitama Sule University,<br />
Kano. In this interview, he traces the origin of the herdsmen/<br />
farmers crisis in the country and proffers solutions on how to have<br />
peace in the land. Excerpts:<br />
of southerners especially young men and<br />
women migrate to the north because they find<br />
opportunities and settle there. I have carried<br />
out a private research as a university professor<br />
and I found out that about 30 to 40 per cent of<br />
all NYSC members who are posted to the<br />
north never go back to their southern states of<br />
origin. They settle here and no one is harassing<br />
them. Sabon Gari in Kano was established<br />
purposely for southerners, not for northerners.<br />
Why did we establish that? It was even our<br />
traditional authority during the native<br />
authorities who established Sabon Gari. They<br />
said this is for our guests who have relatively<br />
different culture and customs, therefore, let<br />
them live together, govern themselves, do their<br />
worship and ceremonies without hindrance.<br />
If we establish a whole<br />
township for<br />
southerners to live in<br />
peace and they are<br />
living in peace, why are<br />
we being ejected from<br />
the south?<br />
But it was said that<br />
the <strong>Fulani</strong> were only<br />
asked to vacate the<br />
forest reserves area<br />
and not the south?<br />
When you ask them<br />
to move out of the forest<br />
where do they carry out<br />
the rearing of their<br />
livestock , where do you<br />
want them to go? The<br />
cities or where? You are<br />
indirectly telling them<br />
to leave the south. Now,<br />
what are the other<br />
factors why the <strong>Fulani</strong><br />
found ourselves in this<br />
situation? The second<br />
factor is economic<br />
reason. For example,<br />
our population has<br />
grown higher. In the<br />
60’s, our population<br />
was less than 50<br />
million, now we are<br />
over 200 million, so<br />
there is competition for land. Originally,<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> have their own cattle routes which were<br />
designed and gazetted by colonial<br />
governments. The grazing routes were for<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> and those who have interest in herding<br />
animals. At that time, there was enough land<br />
and no one encroached on those routes and<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> could pass without destroying<br />
farmlands. Now, individuals, companies and<br />
even the government have conspired to take<br />
over those routes. Buildings are now being<br />
erected on those routes making it difficult for<br />
the <strong>Fulani</strong> to find enough routes to pass and<br />
so the animals go astray and encroach on<br />
SATURDAY Vanguard, FEBRUARY 13, 2021—11<br />
If there are criminals<br />
among the <strong>Fulani</strong>, they<br />
should be dealt with<br />
according to the law. We<br />
have law enforcement<br />
agents, it is their job to<br />
fish out criminals,<br />
prosecute them and<br />
punish them so that the<br />
society will be healthy<br />
farmers’ lands. Even before, the crisis used to<br />
occur, but not on the large scale as we are<br />
witnessing today.<br />
So, I think what government at all levels<br />
should do is to look into the situation as a<br />
matter of urgency. We, the <strong>Fulani</strong> are not happy<br />
that our people are going about. This is not<br />
life, it used to be but no more. We want them to<br />
settle down, we want our children to go to<br />
school, we want them to enjoy life and social<br />
amenities. And by doing that, even their cows<br />
will be healthier and will produce more milk<br />
and meat when they are settled. So, we want<br />
government to help <strong>Fulani</strong> settle. They are<br />
citizens, they are not empty handed, they are<br />
people with enormous wealth, their wealth<br />
are on four legs (cows). No one can claim that<br />
they don’t eat cows and even cow legs. If these<br />
people settle down and can provide feeds,<br />
adequate water for their animals and their<br />
children are enrolled in schools, with health<br />
facilities, decent housing and electricity, it is<br />
for the betterment of Nigeria and there will be<br />
peace.<br />
I don’t have to tell you the contributions of<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> to Nigeria’s political development and<br />
other sectors. They are in politics and doing<br />
well. So why should some people look down<br />
on the <strong>Fulani</strong> as if they are not human beings?<br />
And why is it that other crimes that are<br />
identified with other tribes are not stereotyped?<br />
We read on a daily basis and watch the<br />
television about Yahoo boys and drug abuse.<br />
We had cases of some Igbo who stole our<br />
children especially in Kano and selling them<br />
like goats. Hundreds of stolen children have<br />
been traced to south eastern states and all the<br />
people associated with the atrocities have been<br />
apprehended. But we never called Igbo<br />
criminals because we know it is not all Igbo<br />
who were involved as we see other Igbo in the<br />
market doing well in business. We don’t need<br />
to cast aspersions on others in order to gain<br />
political advantages. This is very bad.<br />
When you said you are not happy that your<br />
people are moving about, does it mean you<br />
back the call by Governor Ganduje to ban<br />
movement of herdsmen from north to south?<br />
No, I don’t support Ganduje’s call that<br />
herders or cattle rearers should be banned from<br />
going to the south. If Governor Ganduje or<br />
other Nigerians suggest that the <strong>Fulani</strong> should<br />
be settled wherever they want, that will be<br />
acceptable. But if you say you want to ban<br />
them from going to the southern Nigeria, then<br />
we have to ban others from coming to the<br />
north also. This is justice and fairness. I replied<br />
Governor Ganduje that what he said was<br />
wrong and unconstitutional. You don’t talk of<br />
banning people in their own country of birth.<br />
If Nigeria is divided, then we can obtain<br />
passport before going to the south and they<br />
will also obtain passport and before coming<br />
here in the north.<br />
Do you support RUGA settlement for<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> herdsmen?<br />
Yes, I support RUGA wholeheartedly. I<br />
support all other programmes that will enable<br />
<strong>Fulani</strong> to settle in one place, with their way of<br />
life being taken care of. And they should be<br />
treated like human beings and like Nigerians.<br />
They have the right to be assisted with funds,<br />
ideas and security like other Nigerians. If you<br />
give help to people who engage in fishing,<br />
poultry and mining, why not people who<br />
engage in cattle rearing and livestock<br />
management. If <strong>Fulani</strong> are settled it is an<br />
investment and in the long run, people will<br />
see the result. But trying to send them away is<br />
not a wise decision and it is a dangerous way<br />
to address the matter.<br />
With the situation at hand,<br />
what is the way forward<br />
before it escalate?<br />
It is for the Federal<br />
government to step in. The<br />
responsibility of security of<br />
the citizens rests with the<br />
President. So the President<br />
should act and act decisively.<br />
And he should not be<br />
intimidated by those saying<br />
he is pampering the <strong>Fulani</strong>.<br />
They are citizens, if they need<br />
pampering, they should be<br />
pampered.<br />
He should talk to the<br />
governors and he should<br />
hold the governors<br />
responsible for whatever<br />
happens to the <strong>Fulani</strong><br />
because a governor cannot<br />
make this irresponsible call<br />
for people or Nigerians to<br />
leave his state. I know that<br />
the presidency has called<br />
them to order but that is not<br />
enough. The presidency<br />
should take this very seriously<br />
before it lead to a state of<br />
chaos in Nigeria. What do<br />
you think will happen if it<br />
leads to reprisal attacks in<br />
other parts of the country? It can hardly be<br />
controlled and who will be blamed?<br />
The Nobel Laureate, Professor Wole<br />
Soyinka was also quoted to have said that if<br />
the situation is not handled properly, it can<br />
lead to another civil war in the country. Do<br />
you ascribe to that?<br />
That is true, all rational thinking people<br />
know that this is a serious situation which<br />
should not be treated with levity. And the<br />
responsibility rests on the Federal government<br />
to have the political will to put a stop to this<br />
madness otherwise it will lead us to hell.