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<strong>Growing</strong> a <strong>global</strong>,<br />

<strong>client</strong>-<strong>focused</strong> <strong>consulting</strong> <strong>business</strong><br />

An interview with Mark Foster, group chief executive,<br />

Management Consulting & Integrated Markets, Accenture<br />

Mark Foster<br />

Accenture is a <strong>global</strong> management <strong>consulting</strong>, technology services and outsourcing<br />

company, listed on the NYSE. It had net revenues of US$19.7 billion<br />

for the fiscal year ended Aug. 31, 2007 and employs more than 158,000 people<br />

in 49 countries. Accenture helps its <strong>client</strong>s perform at the highest levels so<br />

they can create sustainable value for their customers and shareholders. It has<br />

extensive relationships with the world’s leading companies and governments,<br />

working with organizations of all sizes — including 91 of the Fortune Global<br />

100 and two-thirds of the Fortune Global 500.<br />

Mark Foster joined Accenture in 1983 and became a partner in 1994. As group<br />

chief executive, Managing Consulting & Integrated Markets, he is a member of<br />

Accenture’s executive leadership team.<br />

Mark recently spoke to <strong>Spencer</strong> <strong>Stuart</strong> consultant Rob Wilder about how<br />

Accenture is developing its solutions for <strong>client</strong>s in the light of <strong>global</strong>ization<br />

and the quickening pace of organizational change.<br />

Mark Foster at a glance<br />

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Mark Foster has overall responsibility for the development of the company’s<br />

management <strong>consulting</strong> capabilities, which include the customer relationship<br />

management, finance & performance management, human performance,<br />

strategy, and supply chain management service lines. Additionally, he has<br />

oversight of all Accenture industry programs as well as its High Performance<br />

Business Initiative, through which Accenture provides <strong>client</strong>s with a unique<br />

blend of <strong>business</strong> capabilities across its three growth platforms — Management<br />

Consulting, Systems Integration and Technology, and Outsourcing.<br />

Mark was previously group chief executive of Accenture’s products operating<br />

group. He leads Accenture’s involvement with the World Economic Forum: in<br />

this capacity he serves as chairman of the non-executive board of the Global<br />

Health Initiative against HIV/AIDS, TB and Malaria. He is also a member of<br />

the board of the International Business Leaders Forum of the Prince of Wales<br />

Trust, which supports <strong>business</strong> development in the developing world.


Q & A with Mark Foster<br />

What is your view on the relationship<br />

between IT services and software and how<br />

the industries are converging?<br />

Accenture’s model straddles the whole spectrum of<br />

management <strong>consulting</strong>, IT services and software,<br />

as well as outsourcing, and these fields are continuing<br />

to converge. What’s driving our <strong>business</strong> at<br />

the moment is our <strong>client</strong>s’ need to improve their<br />

performance in the face of increased <strong>global</strong>ization<br />

and customer-centricity. Leveraging <strong>global</strong> scale<br />

and being very close to customers are two critical<br />

areas of change for organizations, which in turn<br />

fuel growth in the <strong>business</strong> change management<br />

<strong>consulting</strong> industry and information technology<br />

systems solutions backbones. And, as people<br />

disaggregate their value chains in different ways,<br />

the demand for outsourcing grows.<br />

In terms of how IT services relates to software,<br />

it’s clear that, as more and more functionality is<br />

being built into software, incorporating some of<br />

the IT services that were once provided separately,<br />

productivity is rising. However, a new range of<br />

complex IT-related issues is emerging with the next<br />

level of integration and connectivity. The next wave<br />

of change in IT services is coming from areas such<br />

as Web 2.0, web enablement, open source, the<br />

convergence of technologies and Service-Oriented<br />

Architecture. Change needs to be purposeful, part<br />

of an overall strategy to improve <strong>business</strong> performance,<br />

so what we try to do is help our <strong>client</strong>s use<br />

these technologies to respond to the issues of<br />

competition, <strong>global</strong>ization and their customercentricity.<br />

Are the larger enterprise <strong>client</strong>s moving<br />

away from complex, bespoke deals with<br />

you, or are you moving towards managing a<br />

portfolio of services?<br />

There are still plenty of large, transformational deals<br />

to be done across the spectrum, although it is quite<br />

hard to predict when they will come along. The<br />

nature of the issues <strong>client</strong>s face, and their need for<br />

pace, certainty and strategic flexibility, will inevitably<br />

drive some to adopt our services in the form of<br />

big, complex, integrated deals. With my integrated<br />

markets responsibility, I make sure that we bring<br />

all the best pieces of Accenture together in order to<br />

serve <strong>client</strong>s in complex deals. We expect there to be<br />

a continuing flow of these, whether they involve total<br />

enterprises or key functional parts of organizations.<br />

The bread and butter of our <strong>business</strong> is what I call<br />

significant, complex change in a division, function or<br />

area — projects worth between £20–50 million —<br />

which compared to the big transformational deals<br />

mentioned above, are somewhat medium-scale. We<br />

also deliver point solutions to solve a specific <strong>business</strong><br />

issue: very <strong>focused</strong> insights, using our systems<br />

integration <strong>consulting</strong>, technology <strong>consulting</strong> or<br />

management <strong>consulting</strong> services. And then there are<br />

what I like to call the service support models: staff<br />

augmentation, and basic application outsourcing<br />

representing another layer of our value proposition.<br />

Our <strong>business</strong> has always been a portfolio of services<br />

and it’s quite good from a risk mitigation strategy<br />

that we’re not entirely dependent on the big deals,<br />

though obviously we need a number of those to<br />

maintain our scale and momentum.<br />

Is Accenture looking over its shoulder at other<br />

major software players, even those offering<br />

different elements of the value chain?<br />

We have <strong>focused</strong> on India and have been extremely<br />

successful here, despite the competition from<br />

Indian companies neutralizing the first wave of<br />

attack on our value chain. Our objective has been to<br />

connect an Indian capability to our <strong>global</strong> network<br />

that is delivery- and outcome-based, rather than<br />

simply about time and materials. Infosys and Tata<br />

are showing signs that they will assume accountability<br />

for delivery as opposed to simply offering a<br />

cheaper cost-per-head; we fully expect them to build<br />

the capability to do that <strong>global</strong>ly, which will put competitive<br />

pressure on us. However, we are moving<br />

up the value chain all the time. We have been the<br />

only Western-based company to grow our <strong>business</strong><br />

organically in India and to properly take the Indians


Q & A with Mark Foster<br />

on in their home territory with a degree of success.<br />

But we have to stay vigilant, particularly if they move<br />

into areas like management <strong>consulting</strong>, which they<br />

will try to do. It’s going to be a struggle for them,<br />

but they will have some natural advantages which<br />

we respect, including their access to a great talent<br />

pool of very bright people.<br />

The environment in which Oracle and SAP operate<br />

is always of interest to us, not so much because<br />

it’s a competitive threat per se, but because the<br />

new wave of solutions arising from those platforms<br />

— and indeed from Web 2.0 and service-oriented<br />

architecture technologies — create more areas for<br />

us to become expert in and help us serve <strong>client</strong>s in<br />

unique and differentiated ways. It does mean that<br />

some of the things we would have done five to ten<br />

years ago are now inside the software, but that’s<br />

life — things move on. As complexity, process and<br />

integration issues become critical for organizations,<br />

so we gain opportunities.<br />

How has the thinking of your larger<br />

enterprise <strong>client</strong>s evolved over the years?<br />

Most of them are still putting in their Enterprise<br />

Resource Planning backbones, which is easier said<br />

than done. We help guide them through organizational<br />

and operating model barriers particularly<br />

when done on a <strong>global</strong> basis; this is a huge wave<br />

of activity and will remain so for four to six years.<br />

Of course, some companies got there early, maybe<br />

because their industries were more <strong>global</strong> or they<br />

were just ahead of the curve. They are now starting<br />

to build on top of those platforms and think about<br />

how to use the internet more effectively, how they<br />

can create more flexible models for interacting with<br />

their <strong>business</strong> partners, multi-channel customers,<br />

and so on. As a result, CIOs and the rest of the<br />

C-suite are now worrying about analyzing and drawing<br />

insight from their vast databases of information.<br />

The value-added services area of IT is going to be<br />

critical for us.<br />

After the dot com bubble burst, the<br />

Accenture strategy group retrenched,<br />

along with a number of other Accenture<br />

<strong>consulting</strong> practices, but it has now come<br />

back with force. What has this been a<br />

response to?<br />

During the <strong>consulting</strong> downturn in the early part of<br />

this decade we re<strong>focused</strong> ourselves on two things.<br />

First, we built a scale outsourcing <strong>business</strong> in BPO<br />

and applications that went from 15 to 40 percent of<br />

our practice in three years. Second, we reinvented<br />

our systems integration practice by creating a truly<br />

<strong>global</strong> delivery network which was plugged into<br />

Latin America and Manila as well as India. Today we<br />

have 44 centres in 30 cities.<br />

What <strong>client</strong>s need in terms of <strong>business</strong> advice and<br />

services goes beyond systems integration, technology<br />

and outsourcing. We have always had a strong<br />

management <strong>consulting</strong> capability, but this now<br />

needs to be ramped up to match the scale of the<br />

issues that our <strong>client</strong>s are facing. The <strong>consulting</strong><br />

market is very hot right now. The audit firms have<br />

come back into the marketplace very strongly off<br />

the back of the Sarbanes-Oxley, and the traditional<br />

strategy consultants have carried on in the direction<br />

of operational <strong>consulting</strong>. We remain in a sweet<br />

spot in what I call operating model change —<br />

organizational change, executional strategy and the<br />

connection between management <strong>consulting</strong> and<br />

technology systems.<br />

Clients have to be equipped to be high performing<br />

in a world in which economic activity comes from<br />

multiple locations around the globe, flowing in<br />

every direction. With our <strong>global</strong> footprint we are<br />

uniquely placed to take advantage of this trend,<br />

so long as we can deepen our skills; developing<br />

industry-specific as well as platform points of view<br />

is important for us.


Q & A with Mark Foster<br />

How do you see Accenture’s position with<br />

the big strategy firms moving aggressively<br />

into the marketplace?<br />

It depends on the area. Take McKinsey, for example.<br />

We respect them and believe they have a big part<br />

to play in the world — indeed, they are the catalyst<br />

for a lot of our <strong>business</strong> development. Their work<br />

often prompts an executive team to change strategy,<br />

but since they do not handle the execution side of<br />

things, this is where we come in. Because we are<br />

so firmly grounded in the pragmatics of execution,<br />

running <strong>client</strong>s’ HR, finance or supply chain<br />

operations, etc., we bring unique and valuable<br />

insights to <strong>client</strong>s. Our style of <strong>consulting</strong> is more<br />

organizationally collaborative, partnering not just<br />

with the <strong>client</strong>’s senior team but also with the rest<br />

of the organization — that’s a very different model.<br />

We are credible because we are playing the same<br />

game as our <strong>client</strong>s. We are a public company, we<br />

are leading <strong>global</strong>ization and facing the rigours of<br />

clear reporting; like our <strong>client</strong>s, we are having to<br />

re-engineer our own talent force and realign it with<br />

the <strong>global</strong> economy. From a <strong>consulting</strong> perspective I<br />

find myself talking to <strong>client</strong>s about what we’re doing<br />

in our own $17 billion <strong>global</strong> enterprise. They see us<br />

as a model.<br />

When you became Accenture everybody was<br />

watching to see what was going to happen.<br />

Now the <strong>business</strong> is going well and you<br />

have a great brand. Do you think going<br />

public has improved your credibility and<br />

brand with <strong>client</strong>s?<br />

In some cases it has, but not all <strong>client</strong>s really<br />

understand what’s happened or how far we’ve<br />

come. Our own transition has been important for<br />

us; we have learnt a great deal just by having to do it<br />

ourselves. We understand the pressures of being a<br />

listed <strong>business</strong>: every day we deal with the markets,<br />

with analysts, balancing shareholder returns with<br />

internal imperatives, which is what every publicly<br />

traded company in the world has to do.<br />

Many of our competitors still run on partnershipbased<br />

models and have different frames of reference<br />

for some of the things we’re doing. Being a corporate<br />

player of scale is part of our differentiation and<br />

at the heart of our <strong>business</strong> is a success story.<br />

Do you find that collaboration is an issue,<br />

particularly between your various <strong>business</strong>es?<br />

With a number of different agendas at play<br />

do you find the collegiality is still there?<br />

It’s still there. Certainly, the leadership team is closely<br />

connected. And as we continue to scale our <strong>business</strong>,<br />

we are conscientious about removing barriers to<br />

collaboration, focusing on teamwork, and integrating<br />

diverse points of view from across the <strong>business</strong>. In<br />

my role, I not only drive our key differentiation — our<br />

High Performing Business Initiative, but I also have<br />

responsibility to ensure we have layered offerings<br />

that glue us together so that our teams continue<br />

to make connections with each other by sharing<br />

knowledge and expertise with other groups and<br />

actively developing internal and external networks —<br />

that’s still a strong, natural tendency at Accenture.<br />

What is your growth strategy, and does<br />

it mainly involve organic growth or<br />

acquisition?<br />

Both. We have announced our strategy to spend<br />

money on M&A. We have to find the right properties<br />

to buy across all of our growth platforms, in<br />

<strong>business</strong> process outsourcing (BPO), management<br />

<strong>consulting</strong> and systems integration. We have made<br />

a small and selective number of acquisitions in specific<br />

areas (our “tuck-in” strategy)…We are feeling<br />

more confident following the successful integration<br />

of Capgemini’s North American healthcare <strong>consulting</strong><br />

practice in 2005, and have since made a couple<br />

of other small strategic acquisitions to enhance our<br />

services and capabilities — for example, with our<br />

recent acquisition of the George Group.


Q & A with Mark Foster<br />

What is Accenture’s strategy for acquiring<br />

and managing talent over the next three to<br />

five years?<br />

Each of our <strong>business</strong>es has a talent and human capital<br />

strategy. We will remain the place that has high<br />

quality people who bring outstanding intellectual<br />

content to everything we do. We will be focusing on<br />

industry experts and raising the bar so that we have<br />

more people who can go toe-to-toe in the board<br />

room with our <strong>client</strong>s. We will bring more people<br />

into operational <strong>consulting</strong> so that we can help<br />

<strong>client</strong>s re-engineer critical processes, and massively<br />

enhance our <strong>global</strong> insights. Our dominant experience<br />

is what you might call the ‘Western capitalist’<br />

perspective of a high performance organization, but<br />

as we start to do more work with Islamic, Chinese,<br />

African and Latin American organizations, we need<br />

to deepen our understanding of different <strong>business</strong><br />

cultures and have greater insights to offer. We have<br />

been in India since 1987, and China since 1988, but<br />

we want to aggressively grow our <strong>business</strong> in these<br />

and other fast-growing economies.<br />

The systems integration practice will have a strong<br />

focus on technology skills and capabilities, ideally<br />

bringing on board world-class architects who understand<br />

how these new technologies are used to effect<br />

<strong>business</strong> change. We need people who can manage<br />

complex, end-to-end programmes, and people who<br />

can run and manage operational excellence in the<br />

area of BPO.<br />

Would Accenture consider bringing in senior<br />

executives without a <strong>consulting</strong> background<br />

to work alongside <strong>client</strong>s in a given sector?<br />

Yes, I think we would, although the transition from<br />

being a <strong>business</strong> person to being a consultant is not<br />

straightforward. The ideal person would be someone<br />

like a transformation director who has successfully<br />

driven a change programme from within<br />

a large organization. There are also many people<br />

who have gone back into <strong>business</strong> from <strong>consulting</strong>.<br />

Our own alumni and alumni from other firms are<br />

attractive prospects — people who have <strong>consulting</strong><br />

experience and insight, but also the pragmatism<br />

that comes from having practical <strong>business</strong> experience.<br />

We will continue to lean towards people with<br />

industry experience, although of course we will carry<br />

on building talent and recruiting on a massive scale.<br />

This year alone at Accenture we’re hiring 60,000<br />

people.


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