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qarTl-osi<br />
mSvidobis, Tanadgomis, urTierTgagebis gziT!<br />
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
sazogadoebrivi kavSiris - megobrobis xidi `qarTlosis~ gazeTi<br />
pirveli gadacema ukve<br />
gavida eTerSi. radiostudiam,<br />
romelic arasamTavrobo organizacia<br />
`megobrobis xidi<br />
_ qarTlosis~ bazaze Seiqmna,<br />
ukve pirveli gadacemis stumrebs<br />
umaspinZla da diskusiac<br />
Sedga.<br />
proeqtis farglebSi TveSi<br />
orjer gava radioeTeriT `qarTlosis<br />
xma~, romlis mizania<br />
qarTul-osur urTierTobebSi<br />
sainformacio va kuumis,<br />
urTierTobebis de ficitis<br />
aRmofxvra, informaciul-SemecnebiTi<br />
xasiaTis radiogadacemaTa<br />
Tema mravalferovani<br />
iqneba da msmeneli moismens<br />
rogorc qarTveli, aseve osi<br />
analitikosebis mosazrebebs,<br />
rigiTi adamianebis Sexedulebebs<br />
ama Tu im mniSvnelovan<br />
sakiTxebze.<br />
diskusia gaimarTeba qar-<br />
Tul-osuri samoqalaqo diaradiodiskusia<br />
`qarTlosis xma~<br />
`qarTl-osis~ furclebze<br />
logis sxvadsxva formatSi<br />
ganxilul Temebze, romlebic<br />
qarTul-osur urTier-<br />
Tobebs da humanitaruli<br />
mimarTulebis problemebis<br />
mogvarebas exeba. gadacemaSi<br />
ar isaubreben politikaze,<br />
aqcenti adamianebis urTier-<br />
Tobebze da maT yofiT problemebze<br />
gakeTdeba.<br />
proeqti dafinansebulia<br />
robert boSis fondma, german<br />
marSalis fondis proeqtis _<br />
Savi zRvis konsorciumi regionuli<br />
TanamSromlobisTvis<br />
farglebSi.<br />
pirveli gadacema `qalTa<br />
samSvidobo moZraobas~ daeTmo.<br />
es moZraoba cxinvalsa da<br />
sxvadasxva qalaqSi didi xania<br />
arsebobs, qalebi periodulad<br />
mesame qveyanaSi ikribebian da<br />
(gagrZeleba mexuTe<br />
gverdze)<br />
xalxis rCeuli<br />
warsulsa da momavalze<br />
arCevnebamde cota xniT<br />
adre socialur qselebSi<br />
mis suraTebTan erTad gaCnda<br />
warwerebi: ,,es kaci namdvilad<br />
gviSvelis~, ,,Cveni<br />
imedi~, ,,mieciT xma, rom mere<br />
ar SegrcxveT~...<br />
mas marTlac gansakuTrebuli<br />
mxardaWera ergo Sida<br />
qarTlis amomrCevlebisgan<br />
maSin, roca mTeli msoflio<br />
Cvens qveyanaSi momxdari<br />
Zireuli gardatexisa da istoriuli<br />
movlenis uprecedento<br />
arCevnebis Sesaxeb<br />
alaparakda. axali mTavrobis<br />
erT-erTi perspeqtiuli axalgazrda<br />
deputati malxaz<br />
(soso) vaxtangaSvili dRes<br />
Cveni respondentia.<br />
man bevri isaubra momxdarsa<br />
Tu mosaxdenze jer<br />
kidev maSin, vidre mandatiT<br />
xeldamSvenebuli Sexvdeboda<br />
amomrCevels. maSin saTqmeli<br />
mainc darCa, romlis nawilzec<br />
dRes mogviTxrobs.<br />
rogor Seegua Sida qarTlis<br />
maJoritari deputatis<br />
ampluaSi yofnas soso vxtangaSvili<br />
da rogor ,,dabanakda~<br />
igi axal saparlamento<br />
qalaqSi? amis Sesaxeb<br />
dRes Tavad gviambobs.<br />
(gagrZeleba mesame<br />
gverdze)<br />
RvanelobiT Sendeboda da<br />
samSvidobo diplomatiisa<br />
da ganviTarebis politikis<br />
erT-erT yvelaze ufro<br />
warmatebul magaliTad aris<br />
miCneuli. am rkinigzam<br />
TurqeTis, iranis da pakistanis<br />
teritoriebze gaiara<br />
da konfliqtur regionebSi<br />
daZabuloba ganmuxta Tavis<br />
droze. swored amitomacaa,<br />
rom jon makdonaldma mxari<br />
dauWira biZina ivaniSvilis<br />
winadadebas konfliqtur<br />
regionebSi rkinigzis gayvamakdonaldis<br />
samSvidobo gegma<br />
samxreT kavkasiisTvis<br />
jon makdonaldi amerikuli<br />
diplomatiis erT-erTi<br />
yvelaze gamocdili warmomadgenelia.<br />
man sakuTari<br />
diplomatiuri kariera jer<br />
kidev marSalis gegmaze<br />
muSaobiT daiwyo okupirebul<br />
germaniaSi. droTa<br />
ganmavlobaSi is sxvadasxva<br />
metad mniSvnelovan qveyanaSi<br />
imyofeboda Tanamdebobebze.<br />
USAID-is erT-erTi<br />
pirveli mniSvnelovani proeqti,<br />
ankara-karaCis rkinigza,<br />
swored misi xelmZ-<br />
prezentacia solidarobis niSnad<br />
4 Tebervals msoflios<br />
TiTqmis yvela qveyana Tanadgomas<br />
uc xadebs kiboTi daavadebulebs,<br />
gamonaklisebi<br />
arc Cven _ „qarTlosis~<br />
`mxardaWeris jgufi~ vyofilvarT<br />
da prezentaciiT<br />
Cvenc solidaroba gamovucxadeT<br />
am adamianebs.<br />
kibo yvela Taobis mtkivneuli<br />
Temaa, amitom prezentaciaze<br />
mowveulebi iyvnen<br />
(gagrZeleba mesame<br />
gverdze)<br />
nis Sesaxeb.<br />
samxreT kavkasiis samSvidobo<br />
sakiTxebze igi jer<br />
kidev 2000 wlidan muSaobs.<br />
is regionSi samjer<br />
imyofeboda da adgilobriv<br />
specialistebTan erTad<br />
samxreT kavkasiis mSvidobiani<br />
mowyobis modelsac<br />
gvTavazobs, romelic sxva<br />
arsebul modelebTan SedarebiT<br />
bevrad ufro pragmatuli<br />
da realisturia.<br />
(gagrZeleba meoTxe<br />
gverdze)
2<br />
_ dRes Cveni sazogadoeba<br />
gamoTqvams ukmayofilebas<br />
ekonomikaSi, politikasa da<br />
kulturaSi arsebuli mdgomareobis<br />
gamo. zogjer<br />
mousmen yvelas da geCveneba,<br />
rom cxovrebaSi ar aris na-<br />
Teli wertili. yvelaferi<br />
uaresdeba, miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom omi TiTqos aRar aris.<br />
amaSic SeiZeleba bevrs dae-<br />
Tanxmo. magram cxovreba<br />
xom brZolaa da rame unda<br />
Seicvalos. Tqven rogor uyurebT<br />
yvelafer imas, rac<br />
xdeba? ra gaRelvebT Tqven<br />
yvelaze metad?<br />
_ es ara marto me, aramed<br />
respublikis yvela<br />
macxovrebels awuxebs. daum-<br />
Tavrebeli, ra Tqma unda,<br />
bevria, magram aris naTeli<br />
adgilebic. qalaqi bevrad<br />
sufTa da myudro gaxda.<br />
miuxedavad yvelafrisa,<br />
problemebi mainc ar Semcirebula,<br />
magaliTad, cudi<br />
gzebis mtkivneuli problema<br />
gadaizarda aranakleb<br />
mniSvnelovan problemaSi _<br />
gzebis asfaltirebis paralelurad<br />
mkveTrad gaizarda<br />
_ dRes Cveni sazogadoeba<br />
gamoTqvams ukmayofilebas<br />
ekonomikaSi, politikasa da<br />
kulturaSi arsebuli mdgomareobis<br />
gamo. zogjer mousmen<br />
yvelas da geCveneba, rom<br />
cxovrebaSi ar aris naTeli<br />
wertili. yvelaferi uaresdeba,<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom<br />
omi TiTqos aRar aris. ama-<br />
Sic SeiZeleba bevrs daeTanxmo.<br />
magram cxovreba xom<br />
brZolaa da unda Seicvalos<br />
rame. Tqven rogor uyurebT<br />
yvelafer imas, rac xdeba?<br />
ra gaRelvebT Tqven dRes<br />
yvelaze metad?<br />
_ diax, dRes, samwuxarod,<br />
Cveni qveynis ekonomikuri,<br />
politikuri, kulturuli<br />
mdgomareoba savalaloa.<br />
2008 wlis agvistos Semdeg<br />
Cven ver SevZeliT fexze dadgoma,<br />
dangreuli da damwvari<br />
saxlebis aRdgena, magram<br />
SegviZlia davamyaroT wesrigi<br />
samSeneblo bumSi _ aravin ar<br />
aqcevs maT yuradRebas, isini<br />
aSeneben rogorc undaT.<br />
ar makmayofilebs Sesrulebuli<br />
samuSaoebis tempi,<br />
xarisxi. is finansebi, rac<br />
Cven ruseTma gamogviyo, eyofoda<br />
ori cxinvalis aSenebasa<br />
da ekonomikis aRdgenas.<br />
magram, rogorc Cven viciT,<br />
jerjerobiT Zalian cotaa<br />
gakeTebuli, Cven unda vimuSaoT,<br />
raTa amovZvreT am WuWyidan.<br />
qalaqis komunikaciebis<br />
gamocvlis dawyebisTanave gamoCnda,<br />
rom warmoiqmneboda<br />
mravali problema, maT Soris,<br />
gzis ararsebobis, gavlis<br />
problema, pretenziebi<br />
xarisxis mimarT da a. S. ar<br />
SeiZleboda yvela quCaze<br />
erTdroulad samuSaoebis<br />
dawyeba, ar SeiZleboda quCeb-<br />
Si tranSeebis gaTxra da maTi<br />
ase datoveba. saWiro iyo jer<br />
erTi quCis gaTxra, misi sxvebisgan<br />
izolireba, komunikaciebis<br />
Secvla, keTilmowyoba,<br />
moasfalteba da mxolod amis<br />
Semdeg gadasvla sxva quCaze.<br />
pirvel rigSi, es ar Seuqmnida<br />
problemebs avtomobilis<br />
mZRolebs, aseve fexiT mosiaruleebs,<br />
ar iqneboda talaxi<br />
quCebSi. meores mxriv,<br />
axali moasfaltebuli quCebi<br />
ar iqneboda isev talaxiani,<br />
romelic gadmoaqvT manqanebs<br />
sxva quCebidan. dRes xom ukve<br />
axal quCebzec SeuZlebelia<br />
sufTad gavla, radgan ukve<br />
iqac Zalian bevri talaxia.<br />
aseTi niuansebi mravladaa,<br />
mec miCndeba uamravi kiTxva,<br />
qarTl-osi<br />
avariebis SemTxvevebi Cemi<br />
qalaqis gzebze. ramdenadme<br />
SemaSfoTebelia is, rom<br />
gzebis dagebisas mSeneblebs<br />
aviwydebaT e.w. `mwoliare<br />
policielebis~ Sesaxeb, ris<br />
Sedegadac zaraldebian rogorc<br />
mZRolebi, ise fexiT<br />
mosiaruleebi. uamravi gadau-<br />
Wreli problemaa kulturis<br />
sferoSic. Teatrisa da<br />
muzeumis Senobebis ararseboba<br />
aRelvebs sazogadoebas,<br />
magram rogorc Cans, am kiTxvebze<br />
pasuxebis miReba ar<br />
gviweria.<br />
agreTve, gvaRelvebs axalgazrdebis<br />
problemebic _<br />
dausaqmebloba da dasasvenebeli<br />
adgilebis ararseboba.<br />
zogadad cxovreba respublikaSi<br />
nacrisferi da usaxuria.<br />
zogjer geCveneba, rom<br />
viRacam zemodan Senelebuli<br />
kadris Rilaks daaWira<br />
xeli da, marTalia, cxovreba<br />
TiTqos icvleba, magram neli<br />
tempi mainc igrZnoba.<br />
_ movlena, romelmac kvali<br />
datova Tqvens sulSi?<br />
_ avariis Sedegad gogonas<br />
tragikuli sikvdili cxinvalis<br />
erT-erT quCaze.<br />
am saSinelma SemTxvevam<br />
SeZra qalaqi. damsxvreuli<br />
cxovreba uazro<br />
SemTxveviTobis gamo...<br />
es uneburad gafiqrebs<br />
cxovrebis fasze da mis<br />
araprognozirebadobaze.<br />
msgavsi SemTxvevebis Semdeg<br />
sxvanairad ekidebi<br />
cxovrebas, swavlob mis<br />
dafasebas da sul mciredic<br />
ki gixaria.<br />
_ cxinvali _ es<br />
aris...<br />
_ cxinvali aris osi<br />
eris sulierebis sacavi,<br />
risi matarebelic yvela<br />
misi mcxovrebia! visurvebdi<br />
misi ayvavebis<br />
naxvas, iseT myudro da<br />
mwvane gamxdariyos, rogorc<br />
es odesRac iyo.<br />
_ rogorc Cans, yvelas<br />
aqvs Tavisi sayvareli adgili,<br />
romelic gvizidavs Cven,<br />
sadac gveufleba simSvide da<br />
harmoniis grZnoba, naTeli,<br />
vivsebiT dadebiTi energiiT.<br />
gaqvT Tu ara Tqven iseTi adgili,<br />
sadac gindebaT xolme<br />
dabruneba?<br />
magram vis unda davusva es<br />
kiTxvebi?! dRes ukve gvyavs<br />
axali mTavroba _ isini ar<br />
ageben pasuxs Zvel codvebze,<br />
magram axali Secdomebic ukve<br />
mravladaa.<br />
_ movlena, romelmac datova<br />
kvali Tqvens sulSi?<br />
_ 2008 wlis agvisto...<br />
ra Tqma unda, arasodes damaviwydeba.<br />
megona, rom Cvens<br />
miwaze omi aRarasodes iqneboda,<br />
darwmunebuli viyavi,<br />
rom oms arasodes vixilavdi.<br />
RmerTma nu qnas, rom es kidev<br />
erTxel ganvicadoT.<br />
_ cxinvali _ es aris...<br />
...es Cemi sayvareli qalaqia,<br />
sadac davibade. 1992<br />
wlis 20 maiss davibade _<br />
zonkaris tragediis dRes da<br />
amis gamo arasodes mizeimia es<br />
TariRi, dabadebis dRes meore<br />
dRes aRvniSnav xolme. imedi<br />
maqvs, rom axlo momavalSi<br />
Seicvleba cxinvalis saxe da<br />
arsad iqneba omis kvali.<br />
_ aravisTvis ar warmoadgens<br />
saidumlos, rom<br />
samxreT oseTi mdidaria Tavisi<br />
momajadoebeli bunebiT,<br />
gansakuTrebiT mTis xedebiT.<br />
visurvebdi kidev wavide<br />
maRalmTian Zausis raionSi,<br />
kerZod ki sofel ermanSi.<br />
_ osuri enis problemebze<br />
laparakoben bevrs da<br />
akeTeben cotas. ras niSnavs<br />
TqvenTvis mSobliuri ena?<br />
_ mSobliuri ena es aris<br />
_ rogorc Cans, yvelas<br />
aqvs Tavisi sayvareli adgili,<br />
romelic gvizidavs Cven, sadac<br />
gveufleba simSvide da harmoniis<br />
grZnoba, naTeli, vivsebiT<br />
dadebiTi energiiT. gaqvT Tu<br />
ara Tqven iseTi adgili, sadac<br />
gindebaT xolme dabruneba?<br />
_ ra Tqma unda, aris adgili<br />
cxinvalSi, sadac gavatarebdi<br />
did dros da ar<br />
daviRlebodi. es aris didi<br />
parki, magram, samwuxarod,<br />
dRes es parki arasaxarbielo<br />
mdgomareobaSia. miyvars,<br />
agreTve, pionerTa parki, miT<br />
umetes, dRes, radgan is ganaxlda<br />
_ SesaZlebelia dasveneba<br />
am keTilmowyobil,<br />
myudro skverSi.<br />
_ osuri enis problemebze<br />
laparakoben bevrs da akeTeben<br />
cotas. ras niSnavs TqvenTvis<br />
mSobliuri ena?<br />
_ Cemi ena Cemi simdidrea.<br />
sanam mecodineba Cemi mSobliuri<br />
ena, manam davrCebi osad,<br />
rogorc ki damaviwydeba ena,<br />
avtomaturad aRar viqnebi<br />
osi. ase unda vifiqroT dRes<br />
yvelam da unda SeviswavloT<br />
Cveni mSobliuri ena. bevri ambobs<br />
dRes, rom mas ar sWirdeba<br />
osuri gvirabs miRma, iq<br />
xom arsad gamoadgebaT maT<br />
es ena. ase fiqroben mxolod<br />
briyvebi, romlebsac ar ainteresebT<br />
Tavisi ena, kultura<br />
da erovneba. es gageba<br />
unda amoiZirkvos.<br />
_ problema uamravia,<br />
amaze laparakobs yvela. magram<br />
laparaki ar niSnavs<br />
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
`cxovreba TiTqos icvleba, magram neli tempiT...~<br />
interviu elina gabaraevasTan (korespondenti, 22 wlis)<br />
`Cemi ena Cemi simdidrea~<br />
interviu igor cicitTan (studenti, 20 wlis)<br />
ena, romelsac vswavlobT<br />
balRobidan da vwvdebiT mis<br />
saidumloebebs mTeli Cveni<br />
cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi.<br />
bolo dros dawyebiT skolebSi<br />
swavlebis bilingvuri<br />
sistema SemoiRes da minda<br />
mjerodes, rom es Sroma<br />
Rirseul nayofs gamoiRebs.<br />
_ problema uamravia,<br />
amaze laparakobs yvela. magram<br />
laparaki ar niSnavs<br />
saqmes. raime xom unda gakeTdes.<br />
xelisuflebas aSkarad<br />
ar ZaluZs amasTan gamklaveba.<br />
magram mxolod maTi dadana-<br />
Sauleba, albaT, ar iqneboda<br />
swori da TviT sazogadoeba<br />
unda iqnas CarTuli am procesebSi<br />
situaciis gamosaworeblad.<br />
saidan daiwyebdiT<br />
Tqven, ras gvirCevdiT?<br />
_ xelisufleba sakmaod<br />
kargad icnobs moqalaqeebis<br />
problemebs _ is Se-<br />
Zlebda daekmayofilebina<br />
maTi moTxovnebi kargad da<br />
SeTanxmebulad, sindisierad<br />
rom muSaobdnen. iqneba SesaniSnavi,<br />
Tu Zireulad gadaixedeba<br />
respublikis aRdgenis<br />
sakiTxebi.<br />
saqmes. raime xom unda gakeTdes.<br />
xelisuflebas aSkarad<br />
ar ZaluZs amasTan gamklaveba.<br />
magram mxolod maTi dadana-<br />
Sauleba, albaT, ar iqneboda<br />
swori da TviT sazogadoeba<br />
unda iqnas CarTuli am procesebSi<br />
situaciis gamosaworeblad.<br />
saidan daiwyebdiT<br />
Tqven, ras gvirCevdiT?<br />
_ daviwyebdi mciredan: Tavis<br />
saqmes yvela unda moekidos<br />
pasuxismgeblobiT, dRes<br />
rom dagWirdeT patara cnoba<br />
qalaqis administraciidan,<br />
Tqven iq aravin dagxvdebaT<br />
samuSao dros. 10-11 saaTze<br />
adre aravin ar midis samsaxurSi.<br />
ramdenadac maxsovs,<br />
verasodes movaxerxe erTi<br />
cdiT saqmis damTavreba. unda<br />
damyardes wesrigi yvela organizaciasa<br />
da dawesebulebaSi,<br />
yvela midiodes samsaxurSi<br />
droulad, dagvianebis<br />
gareSe. amas xom finansuri<br />
mxardaWera ar sWirdeba. me,<br />
rogorc studenti, vcdilob<br />
Sevasrulo Cemi movaleobebi,<br />
ar vagvianeb, var yvelaferSi<br />
punqtualuri, viReb TiTqmis<br />
yvela sauniversiteto<br />
RonisZiebaSi monawileobas<br />
da a. S. me ar gamaCnia<br />
didi sazogado sakiTxebisa<br />
da problemebis gadasaWreli<br />
resursebi, magram es ar niSnavs,<br />
rom ar unda gavakeTo<br />
is, rac Cemzea damokidebuli<br />
da vijde, sanam Cems magivrad<br />
sxva ar gaakeTebs rames. vTvli,<br />
rom es arasworia...<br />
cxinvalidan
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
prezentacia solidarobis niSnad<br />
(pirveli gverdidan)<br />
rogorc Tanatolebi,<br />
aseve ufrosebi.<br />
prezentacia daeTmo<br />
zogad informacias: ra<br />
aris kibos gamomwvevi mizezebi,<br />
rogor vebrZoloT<br />
mas, ra statistikaa saqarTvelosa<br />
Tu sazRvargareTis<br />
qveynebSi. gavmarTeT<br />
diskusiac, romelic kidev<br />
ufro metad informaciuli<br />
gamovida.<br />
aseve, litvelma moxalisem<br />
liva stupelem<br />
mogvawoda informacia,<br />
Tu rogoria statistikuri<br />
monacemebi da ra<br />
RonisZiebebs mimarTaven am<br />
dRes da, zogadad, maT<br />
qveyanaSi.<br />
Cvenma jgufma ara marto<br />
prezentaciiT gamovacxadeT<br />
Tanadgoma, aramed<br />
gadaviReT klipi<br />
kibos saerTaSoriso<br />
dResTan dakavSirebiT.<br />
klipSi rogorc jgufis<br />
wevrebi, aseve stumrebic<br />
(pirveli gverdidan)<br />
CavrTeT, rac kidev ufro<br />
saintereso iyo. gavakeTeT<br />
vardisferi gulsabnevebi<br />
_ niSani solidarobis<br />
da yvela stumars vaCuqeT.<br />
es iyo pirveli erToblivi<br />
prezentacia „mxardaWeris<br />
jgufisTvis“.<br />
sasixarulo iyo is faqti,<br />
rom yvelasTvis mniSvnelovani<br />
gaxldaT Cvengan<br />
miwodebuli informacia da,<br />
agreTve, msmenelis interesi.<br />
_ batono soso, cota<br />
Soridan daviwyoT... ram<br />
gadagawyvetinaT politika-<br />
Si mosvla? garkveul risks<br />
xom ar ukavSirdeboda Tqveni<br />
karierisTvis ase xangrZlivi<br />
droiT opoziciaSi<br />
yofna im dros, rodesac<br />
sxva politikuri realoba<br />
arsebobda?<br />
_ ki, batono... cxinvalSi<br />
davibade da gavizarde, meorekurseli<br />
gaxldiT, osqarTveloba<br />
rom airia, ris<br />
gamoc qalaqi Cvenma ojaxmac<br />
(myavs ded-mama da erTi Zma)<br />
datova da bina TbilisSi,<br />
sastumro ,,afxazeTSi~ daido.<br />
Mme ki, vinaidan mSobliuri<br />
qalaqis pedagogiur<br />
institutSi (axlandeli<br />
goris universiteti) vswavlobdi,<br />
romelmac funqcionireba<br />
Semdeg gorSi ganagrZo,<br />
sacxovreblad gorSi<br />
gadmovedi. axalgazrduli,<br />
saintereso wlebi iyo, Tumca,<br />
erTgvarad mZimec... institutis<br />
damTavrebis Semdeg<br />
davamTavre aspirantura<br />
da wilad mxvda bedniereba,<br />
memuSava axalgazrda Taobas-<br />
Tan – studentebTan, gameziarebina<br />
maTTvis Cemi codna<br />
da piriqiT... Tu rogori<br />
leqtori viyavi, amas isini<br />
Seafaseben.<br />
usamarTlobis gancda bavSvobidanve<br />
momyveba. bunebiT<br />
maincdamainc damyoli ver<br />
var.<br />
deputatis mandati, bunebrivia,<br />
didi pativia, Tumca,<br />
CemTvis igi pativze metad pasuxismgeblobaa,<br />
rasac didi<br />
SemarTebiT da sifrTxiliT<br />
movekidebi. gansakuTrebiT<br />
ki imitom, rom vfiqrob,<br />
saqarTveloSi cxovrebis<br />
axali etapi daiwyo, raSic<br />
garkveili wili mec unda<br />
Sevitano. vnaxoT, dro gava<br />
da Cemi TiToeuli nabiji am<br />
gaWirebulma xalxma unda<br />
Seafasos...<br />
_ Tqven gamorCeuli deputatis<br />
mandati gergoT,<br />
radgan ganmeorebiTi arCevnebis<br />
Semdeg kvlav Tqveni<br />
upiratesoba dadasturda. ramdenad<br />
moelodiT amas?<br />
_ ar miyvars sakuTari upiratesobis<br />
dasamtkiceblad<br />
trafaretuli frazebiT da<br />
TariRebiT saubari, mgonia<br />
yovelive es, ficis dadebas<br />
emsgavseba xolme...…amitom im<br />
dros Cadenil konkretul<br />
faqtebs aRar gavixseneb, ramac<br />
saocrad damamcirebel<br />
garemoebaSi Cayara goris<br />
raionis mosaxleoba, ramac es<br />
mSromeli da mZime socialur<br />
pirobebSi mcxovrebi xalxi<br />
aTasgvari zewoliTa da proteqciiT<br />
TiTqmis ,,daaverbovka~,<br />
Tumca, sabednierod,<br />
maT mainc eyoT gabeduloba<br />
Tavisi azris gamosaTqmelad,<br />
rasac marTlac movelodi.<br />
es mandati swored am<br />
qarTl-osi 3<br />
mis momzadebaSi ufrsebis<br />
daxmarebac dagvWirda, sabolood<br />
ki, yvelaferi kargad<br />
damTavrda.<br />
momavlisTvis vgegmavT<br />
kidev bevri, ufro farTo<br />
masStabis RinisZiebis ganxorcielebas.<br />
vimedovnebT,<br />
rom Ceni yvela RonisZieba<br />
stumrebisTvis saintereso<br />
iqneba.<br />
Tamar cercvaZe,<br />
16 wlis<br />
xalxis rCeuli warsulsa da momavalze<br />
gulnatkenma, omgadaxdilma<br />
da gulmarTalma qarTlelma<br />
xalxma momaniWa, Cemma kuTxem<br />
da faqtia, es asmagi pasuximgeblobaa<br />
amomrCevlis winaSe.<br />
gavimeoreb – dro gava<br />
da yvelaferi TvalnaTliv<br />
gamoCndeba. Tavmdablobis<br />
gareSe getyviT, _ mixaria,<br />
raRac cudi rom damTavrda.<br />
is reJimi warsuls Cabarda<br />
da Cveni qveyana im gzas gadaurCa,<br />
romelzec Cvenma winamorbedebma<br />
daayenes. mixaria<br />
rom me, rogorc am qveynis<br />
erTi rigiTi cxinvaleli,<br />
am gamarjvebasTan, momavlis<br />
imedTan, samarTlianobis aRdgenis<br />
SesaZleblobasTan<br />
moviazrebi... xalxs xom ver<br />
movatyueb, Tanac maSin, rodesac<br />
vxedav, maT dRemde<br />
ar ganelebiaT is muxti da<br />
emocia, rasac Cems mimarT<br />
gamoxataven. maT TvalebSi<br />
sixarulis da imedis naperwklebi<br />
didi wvalebisa da<br />
lodinis Semdeg gamoCnda da<br />
Cven, xelisufleba valdebulni<br />
varT rom es adaminebi<br />
ar gavawbiloT.<br />
_ albaT, Zireulad Seicvala<br />
Tqveni cxovreba...<br />
_ drois did nawils,<br />
cxadia, quTaisSi vatareb,<br />
Tumca, Sida qarTlSi saqme<br />
imdenia, rom paraskevs<br />
gorisken moviCqari, quTaisi<br />
mSvenieri qalaqia, magram,<br />
goridan didi manZilis gamo,<br />
ar dagimalavT da xandaxan<br />
Cems TanamoazreebTan er-<br />
Tad TbilisSi gadmosvlas<br />
vnatrob, gzaSi didi dro<br />
ikargeba. Tanac parlamenti<br />
marto deputatebis amara<br />
xom ar muSaobs, iq uamravi<br />
TanamSromelia, maTTvis ki<br />
didi xarjia gamoyofili,<br />
warsuli ukvalod<br />
ar ikargeba<br />
erT mSvenier dRes kexvis<br />
saSualo skolaSi mzadeba<br />
SevniSne, maSin daaxloebiT<br />
meoTxe klasSi viqnebodi da<br />
kargad ver gavaanalize ra xdeboda,<br />
is ki mivxvdi, rom pativsacem<br />
stumrebs elodebodnen.<br />
gakveTilebis damTavrebis<br />
Semdeg klasis darigebelma<br />
miTxra, rom davrCeniliyavi.<br />
aqtiuri moswavle viyavi,<br />
vkiTxulobdi leqsebs, sxvadasxva<br />
konkursSic vmonawileobdi<br />
da kargi akademiuri<br />
moswrebac mqonda. aman ganapiroba,<br />
rom mergo pativi stumrebis<br />
winaSe skolis saxeliT<br />
warvmdgariyavi.<br />
ar gasula didi xani, saaqto<br />
darbazSi Sesuls eduard<br />
kokoiTi da misi delegacia<br />
damxvda. leqsi wavikiTxe d<br />
kargi saCuqaric davimsaxure,<br />
romelic stumrebma gadmomces.<br />
am adamianis mimarT dadebiTad<br />
ganvewyve, Tumca, droTa ganmavlobaSi<br />
Cemi damokidebuleba<br />
iq gza, iq xelfasi, binis<br />
qira... roca irgvliv aTasobiT<br />
devnilia, xalxs isedac<br />
ar ulxins da iqneb jobda,<br />
rom am xarjiT sxva kargi<br />
saqmeebi gakeTebuliyo?<br />
rac Seexeba Cemi cxovrebis<br />
Secvlas, ra Tqma unda, Seicvala,<br />
ver vityvi, rom datvirTvis<br />
mxriv. gasuli weli<br />
iseTi datvirTuli iyo, amosunTqvis<br />
droc ki ar mqonda<br />
_…opoziciaSi yofna advili<br />
namdvilad ar aris, axla saqmis<br />
Sinaarsi Seicvala.<br />
_ parlamentis gareT mogviyeviT<br />
Tqvenze...<br />
_ Cveulebrivi cxovrebiT<br />
vcxovrob, marTalia, axla<br />
saerTod ver vpoulob dros,<br />
Tumca, ise ki, Tavisufal<br />
dros kiTxva miyvarda xolme...<br />
arc megobrebi miCiodnen<br />
dakargvas, sakmaod xSirad<br />
vaxerxebdi maTTan erTad<br />
TavSeqcevas... ojaxTan erTadac<br />
gacilebiT met dros vatarebdi,<br />
magram axla? OveRarc<br />
ori Tvis win dawyebuli<br />
wigni davamTavre, megobrebic<br />
miCivian da, albaT, saCivrebis<br />
did wigns ukve saxlSic gamixsnian...<br />
myavs ori Svili<br />
– 16 wlis gvanca da 6 wlis<br />
laSa. Cemi meuRle _ nana<br />
Tvauri, faqtiurad pressamsaxuris<br />
da TanaSemwis uStato<br />
TanamSromlad vaqcie,<br />
aqamde saojaxo saorganizacio<br />
saqmeebSi aqtiurad Car-<br />
Tuls axla TiTqmis aRarafris<br />
dro aRar mrCeba.<br />
_ cxinvaleli xarT... ras<br />
ityviT qarTul-osur urT-<br />
Seicvala. es moxda gauazreblad,<br />
sazogadoebrivi azris<br />
cvlilebasTan erTad. arcaa<br />
gasakviri, mec xom sazogadoebis<br />
nawili var.<br />
axla, TiTqmis 10 wlis<br />
mere, roca am movlenas vixseneb,<br />
vxvdebi, rom is Sexvedra<br />
qarTveli da osi xalxis<br />
didi megobrobis gamoxatuleba<br />
iyo. marTalia, ganviTarebulma<br />
movlenebma bevri ram<br />
Secvala, magram is warsuli,<br />
romelic siyvarulze iyo agebuli,<br />
ukvalod ar ikargeba.<br />
amis mtkicebulebaa is, rom<br />
dResac devnilTa dasaxlebeSi<br />
vxvdebi araerT ojaxs, sadac<br />
osebi cxovroben. maTi ricxvi<br />
Zalian didia. minda, kidev<br />
erTxel gamovxato wuxili<br />
agvistos movlenebis mimarT da<br />
gamovTqva imedi, rom sakuTar<br />
miwaze mSvidobian cxvorebas<br />
male SevZlebT.<br />
iza kasraZe<br />
ierTobaze, rogoria Tqveni<br />
damokidebuleba am sakiTxTan<br />
dakavSirebiT?<br />
_ diax, cxinvali Cemi<br />
mSobliuri qalaqia. Cems<br />
klasSic, jgufSic araerTi<br />
osi axalgazrda swavlobda,<br />
myavda araCveulebrivi osi<br />
mezoblebi, romlebsac dResac<br />
didi siTboTi vixseneb,<br />
myavs osi naTesavebic...<br />
Cveni Taoba sufTaa qarTul-osuri<br />
konfliqtis<br />
warmoqmnis kuTxiT, radgan<br />
studentobis periodSi sruliad<br />
axalgazrdebi davSordiT<br />
erTmaneTs davis, kamaTis,<br />
erTmaneTTan konfliqtis gareSe...<br />
Cven Zalian didi istoriuli<br />
warsuli gvakavSirebs<br />
erTmaneTTan, Tanac, sadisertacio<br />
Temadac es sakiTxi<br />
avirCie da sakmaod kargad<br />
vici Cveni erebis urTierTpativiscema,<br />
Tanacxovreba.<br />
kargad vici osuri, dResac<br />
vmegobrob osebTan da guli<br />
mtkiva momxdarze, mimaCnia,<br />
rom es urTierTobebi unda<br />
aRvadginoT da Cven yvelam<br />
erTad SevitanoT wvlili<br />
problemis gadaWraSi.<br />
da bolos, visargebleb<br />
SemTxveviT da madloba Tqven<br />
dainteresebisTvis, madloba<br />
Cems amomrCevels aseTi ndobisTvis,<br />
yvelas erTad ocnebebis<br />
asrulebas da winsvlas<br />
gisurvebT, radgan mjera,<br />
rom Tqveni warmatebiT da<br />
kargad yofniT mec ukeTesad<br />
viqnebi!<br />
nana kaxniaSvili
4<br />
(pirveli gverdidan)<br />
goris saswavlo universitetis<br />
erT-erTi warmatebuli<br />
studentia. humanitaruli<br />
fakultetis istoriis<br />
specialobaze swavlobs da<br />
aqtiuradaa CarTuli yvela<br />
im RonisZiebaSi, studenturi<br />
cxovreba rom hqvia.<br />
TinaTinma bavSvobis ocneba<br />
aisrula da istoriis<br />
specialobis studenti gaxda,<br />
Tumca, misTvis yvelaze<br />
saamayoa isic, rom swavlis<br />
gadasaxads sakuTari<br />
SromiT ixdis. mis Sesaxeb<br />
dokumenturi filmic gadaiRo<br />
arasamTavrobo organizacia<br />
`gou jgufis~<br />
studia `TviTmxilvelma~<br />
da arasamTavrobo organizacia<br />
`megobrobis xidi _<br />
qarTlosis~ axalgazrduli<br />
jgufis erT-erTi warmatebuli<br />
lideria.<br />
TinaTin maxaTaZe fiqrobs,<br />
rom universiteti is adgilia,<br />
sadac studentebi<br />
Tavisi SesaZleblobebis gamovlenas<br />
cdiloben. `studenturi<br />
cxovrebis mTavari<br />
bo gegma axali midgomaa<br />
regionSi arsebuli problemebis<br />
gadasaWrelad. es<br />
midgoma gamoricxavs Zalovan<br />
meTodebs da erTmaneT-<br />
Tan iaraRis enaze laparaks.<br />
misi azriT, ekonomikuri<br />
integraciis procesebis<br />
dawyebiT SesaZlebelia politikuri<br />
da eTnikuri konfliqtebis<br />
mogvareba. germania<br />
da safrangeTi didi<br />
xnis ganmavlobaSi omobdnen,<br />
magram evrokavSiris ekonomikuri<br />
integraciis procesebis<br />
dawyebis Semdeg, es<br />
saxelmwifoebi erTmaneTis<br />
uaxloesi partniorebi gaxdnen<br />
evropis sxva qveynebTan<br />
erTad. am modelma ukve<br />
aCvena Tavisi qmedunarianoba<br />
da swored amitomacaa, rom<br />
makdonaldis gegmaSi integraciul<br />
procesebs didi<br />
adgili uWiravs.<br />
makdonaldis samSvidobo<br />
gegma iTvaliswinebs samxreT<br />
kavkasiaSi evrokavSiris<br />
TanamSromlobiTi<br />
(kulturul-ekonomikuri)<br />
modelis damkvidrebas sxvadasxva<br />
konkretuli proeqtis<br />
saSualebiT. sibdas<br />
korporaciis Tavmjdomare<br />
maikl rasmuseni potenciuri<br />
investoria, romelsac unda<br />
Cados fuli samxreT kavkasiis<br />
ekologiurad sufTa<br />
warmoebaSi da ganaxlebad<br />
energiebSi.<br />
xibli mainc konferenciaSi<br />
monawileobaa, romelic yoveli<br />
semestris bolos<br />
qarTl-osi<br />
am winadadebis<br />
nawilebia:<br />
1. samxreT<br />
kavkasiis mSvidobis<br />
universitetis<br />
gaxsna.<br />
2. mSvidobis<br />
zona wiTel<br />
xidTan, sadac<br />
sami kavkasiuri<br />
saxelmwifos<br />
sazRvari<br />
ikveTeba. 3.<br />
alternatiuli<br />
eko-energetikuli<br />
proeqtebi<br />
(romelSiac<br />
investori<br />
apirebs fulis<br />
Cadebas) 4. lazikis<br />
proeqtis ekologiurad<br />
sufTa proeqtad qceva da<br />
amiT kidev meti adamianis<br />
dasaqmeba 5. wylis ekologiuri<br />
dasufTavebis proeqtebi<br />
Sav da kaspiis zRvaze,<br />
agreTve, tbebze samive<br />
qveyanaSi. 6. Tavisufali<br />
ekonomikuri zonis maxasiaTeblebiT<br />
gakeTebuli „mSvidobis<br />
zonebi“ ergneTSi,<br />
zugdidSi, sadaxloSi, oCam-<br />
CireSi da ase Semdeg. 7.<br />
samxreT kavkasiis parlamentis<br />
mowyoba _ 3+3 formuliT.<br />
amerikeli da evropeli<br />
kerZo investorebis nawili<br />
ukve pozitiurad gamoexmaura<br />
makdonaldis gegmas.<br />
imarTeba. universitetis<br />
reqtorma giorgi sosiaSvilma,<br />
studentebis waxalisebis<br />
mizniT, fuladi<br />
jildo daawesa, rac CvenTvis,<br />
studentebisTvis mniSvnelovania,<br />
erTgvari stimulis<br />
momcemia da saukeTeso<br />
naSromebis avtorebi (I-II-III<br />
adgili) Sesabamisi TanxiT<br />
(150; 120; 100) jildovdebian~,<br />
_ aRniSna man CvenTan<br />
saubarSi.<br />
gogonas 5 samecniero<br />
konferenciaSi aqvs monawileoba<br />
miRebuli, kargad<br />
axsovs misTvis pirveli<br />
konferencia da pirveli<br />
warmateba naSromiT _ `osebis<br />
migracia saqarTvelo-<br />
Si~. aRsaniSnavia, agreTve,<br />
gasul zafxuls misi gamarjveba<br />
konferenciaSi TemiT:<br />
`alis istoriidan.~<br />
ar fiqrobda, rom saprizo<br />
maikl rasmusenTan erTad<br />
TanamSromlobis mzadyofna<br />
gamoTqva san diegos universitetma,<br />
romelic saukeTeso<br />
bioteqnologiuri laboratoriebiT<br />
gamoirCeva.<br />
maT surT monawileoba miiRon<br />
„teqnologiisa da<br />
mSvidobis universitetis“<br />
mSeneblobaSi samxreT kavkasiaSi.<br />
makdonaldis azriT, bi-<br />
Zina ivaniSvilis iniciativa<br />
somxeTis rkinigzis gaxsnisaken<br />
didi wingadadgmuli<br />
nabiji iqneba regionuli<br />
mSvidobisken. es rkinigza<br />
araTu xels SeuSlis yarsi-axalqalaqis<br />
gzas, aramed<br />
piriqiT gaaZlierebs<br />
am mimarTulebas. rac meti<br />
satransporto arteria iq-<br />
kategoriaSi moxvdeboda da<br />
mainc, II adgilis mflobeli<br />
gaxda. wels ki I adgili<br />
moipova naSromiT `qviSxeTis<br />
istoriidan~.<br />
`vfiqrob, Cemi warmateba,<br />
I adgili, upirvelesad,<br />
istoriisadmi Cemi gansakuTrebuli<br />
siyvarulis<br />
Sedegia. bevs vmuSaob sakuTar<br />
Tavze, vcdilob, Temas<br />
mecnieruli TvaliT mivudge<br />
da movipovo fotomasalac,<br />
mivdivar adgilze da saku-<br />
Tari fotoaparatiT viReb<br />
suraTebs. naSromSi `qviSxeTis<br />
istoriidan~ gamoviyene<br />
dokumenturi masala, romelic<br />
arcTu ise cnobilia<br />
farTo sazogadoebisTvis.<br />
agreTve, fexiT Semoviare<br />
sofeli qviSxeTi, gadavuRe<br />
fotoebi iq arsebul Zeglebs<br />
da davurTe naSroms,<br />
romelmac gansakuTrebuli<br />
xibli Semata...~, _ ambobs<br />
Sromismoyvare gogona.<br />
aRsaniSnavia isic, rom<br />
TinaTin maxaTaZe sakuTari<br />
naSromis prezentaciis dros<br />
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
makdonaldis samSvidobo gegma samxreT kavkasiisTvis<br />
makdonaldis gegma multi-lateralur<br />
midgomas<br />
emyareba da samxreT kavkasiis<br />
qveynebis Tanabar<br />
monawileobas gulisxmobs<br />
konfliqtebis mogvarebis<br />
procesSi. misi magaliTi<br />
evrokavSiris gzaa. makdonaldis<br />
gegmis mixedviT,<br />
samxreT kavkasias SeuZlia<br />
ekonomikuri integraciis<br />
procesebis dawyeba, rac<br />
TavisTavad xels Seuwyobs<br />
politikuri sakiTxebis gadaWras.<br />
jon makdonaldi 1970-<br />
ian wlebSi Sromis saerTa-<br />
Soriso organizaciis vice<br />
prezidenti gaxldaT da,<br />
agreTve, mas didi roli<br />
aqvs naTamaSebi saerTaSoriso<br />
wylis resursebis moxmarebis<br />
aqtis SedgenaSi.<br />
is ganiaraRebisa da mravalmxriv<br />
molaparakebebze<br />
iyo prezident karterisa<br />
da reiganis sruluflebiani<br />
elCi. aris „civi omis“<br />
damTavrebis erT-erTi avtori<br />
amerikuli mxridan.<br />
Tu henri kisinjers realpolitikosebi<br />
Tvlian<br />
amerikuli sagareo politikis<br />
mamad, jon makdonaldi<br />
idealpolitikosebs<br />
Soris sargeblobs amave reputaciiT.<br />
makdonaldis samSvido-<br />
neba samxreT kavkasiaSi,<br />
miT ufor meti perspeqtiva<br />
eqneba mTlianad regionis<br />
reintegracias. es xels<br />
Seuwyobs rogor yarabaRis,<br />
aseve afxazeTisa da oseTis<br />
konfliqtebis mSvidobian<br />
mogvarebas.<br />
makdonaldis gegmis mixedviT,<br />
saqarTvelo gadamwyvet<br />
rols TamaSobs er-<br />
Tiani samxreT kavkasiuri<br />
modelis SeqmnaSi. swored<br />
es centraluri roli unda<br />
gamoiyenos Tbilisma imisTvis,<br />
rom ara mxolod saku-<br />
Tari problemebi moagvaros,<br />
aramed mezoblebsac daexmaros<br />
sakuTari urTierTobebis<br />
mowesrigebaSi.<br />
makdonaldis samSvidobo<br />
gegma samxreT kavkasiaSi<br />
axali paradigmis Semotanas<br />
cdilobs _ es aris mSvidobiani<br />
Tanaarseboba ekonomikuri<br />
integraciis gziT.<br />
aravin unda darCes izolirebuli<br />
da yvelanairi<br />
blokada unda gauqmdes _<br />
es ganaaxlebs urTierTobas<br />
kavkasiel erebs Soris.<br />
somxeTis blokadis moxsna<br />
am mxriv Zalian mniSvnelovani<br />
nabijia da amas<br />
ukve unda mohyves mSvidobiani<br />
Tanaarsebobis procesebis<br />
dawyeba saqarTvelosa<br />
da azerbaijanSi.<br />
irakli kakabaZe<br />
liberali<br />
`Cvens erebs Soris SesaSuri megobroba davinaxe~<br />
cdilobs droSi amogzauros<br />
msmeneli da swored amanac<br />
ganapiroba misi warmateba da<br />
pirveli adgili.<br />
_ viciT, rom didi Sroma<br />
Cade naSromSi `osebis migracia<br />
saqarTveloSi~, ras<br />
etyvi Tanatolebs, romlebic<br />
e. w. sazRvris meore mxares<br />
cxovroben?<br />
_ marTlac, didi tkivilia<br />
CemTvis konfliqti<br />
da gaTiSuloba. Temaze muSaobis<br />
dros uamravi masala<br />
vnaxe, sadac osebis da qarTvelebis<br />
Tanacxovrebis<br />
Rirseuli magaliTebi amovikiTxe,<br />
am or ers Soris<br />
SesaSuri megobroba da urTierTpativiscema<br />
davinaxe.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, Cems<br />
Tanatolebs, studentebs<br />
vTxov, kargad gaecnon orive<br />
eris istorias, gaiazron da<br />
gaiTavison, rom ndobis aRdgena<br />
orive eris ganviTarebas<br />
da ukeTes momavals keTilad<br />
waadgeba...<br />
xaTuna baliaSvili
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
(pirveli gverdidan)<br />
samSvidobo procesebze msjeloben<br />
xolme.<br />
diskusiis stumrebi arian<br />
qalTa samSvidobo moZraobis<br />
lideri manana mebuke da qalTa<br />
samSvidobo moZraobis<br />
lideri Sida qarTlSi nana<br />
sabanaZe, diskusias uZRveba<br />
Jurnalisti goga afciauri.<br />
gazeTi `qarTl-osi~ gTavazobT<br />
pirvel radioreportaJs<br />
da momavalSic miadevnebs<br />
Tvals `qarTlosis<br />
xmis~ diskusias.<br />
goga afciauri: rogor<br />
Seiqmna moZraoba, ram gikarnaxaT<br />
da ram mogcaT biZgi<br />
imisTvis, rom es moZraoba<br />
SegeqmnaT da ra miznebi aqvs?<br />
manana mebuke: sasiamovnoa,<br />
rom Cven vxsniT am radios da<br />
Cven varT pirveli monawileni.<br />
asea: qalebi yovelTvis<br />
pirvelebi arian da mamakacebi<br />
ukan mogvyvebian... ar ewyinebaT.<br />
rac Seexeba samSvidobo<br />
procesebs da samSvidobo molaparakebebs,<br />
Cvens moZraobas:<br />
2008 wlamde Cven gvqonda<br />
molaparakebebi, mimdinareobda<br />
qarTul-osuri dialogisa da<br />
molaparakebebis procesi da<br />
Cveni mizani iyo konfliqtebis<br />
mSvidobiani daregulireba da<br />
am procesebSi qalebis monawileoba.<br />
rom giTxraT, rom<br />
aqtiurad vsaqmianobdiT, Cven<br />
vicodiT, rom urTierTobebi<br />
iyo dawyebuli, vmsjelobdiT<br />
teritoriul mTlianobaze,<br />
da vsaubrobdiT imaze,<br />
Tu rogor unda CarTuliyvnen<br />
am procesebSi qalebi,<br />
magram 2008 wlis omma dagvanaxa,<br />
rom Cveni saqmianoba ar<br />
aRmoCnda sakmarisi imitom,<br />
rom, Cven ver gavuwieT winaaRmdegoba<br />
im Zaladobas,<br />
rac moxda 2008 wels da<br />
davinaxeT, rom, isev da isev<br />
omis Sedegad yvelaze meted<br />
dazaraldnen qalebi, bavSvebi,<br />
moxucebi da axalgazrdebi...<br />
marTalia, rom mTlianad mosaxleoba<br />
dazaralda, magram,<br />
omis da konfliqtis dros<br />
(es ar aris Cemi mogonili),<br />
metad zaraldebian qalebi da<br />
bavSvebi.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, davinaxeT,<br />
rom Cveni raodenoba<br />
da Cveni moZraoba ar iyo<br />
sakmarisi winaaRmdegobisTvis.<br />
amitom gadavwyviteT, rom<br />
gagvefarToebina da Segveqmna<br />
erTi Zlieri gundi qalebisa,<br />
romlebic win aRudgebodnen<br />
yvelanair Zaladobas da<br />
xmamaRla ityodnen: ara omi,<br />
ara Zaladoba, mxolod da<br />
mxolod mSvidoba, mxolod<br />
da mxolod dialogi, mxolod<br />
da mxolod molaparakeba<br />
da zustad amitom SevqmeniT<br />
Cven qalTa moZraoba,<br />
qarTl-osi 5<br />
radiodiskusia `qarTlosis xma~ `qarTl-osis~ furclebze<br />
romelsac `qalebi mSvidobisa<br />
da usafrTxoebisTvis~ davarqviT.<br />
dRes Cveni mizania, rom<br />
Cvens moZraobaSi gavaer-<br />
TianoT nebismieri qali, vinc<br />
fiqrobs usafrTxoebaze da<br />
vTqvaT, rom Cven qalebs gvinda<br />
mxolod da mxolod mSvidoba,<br />
gvinda Cveni Svilebis<br />
usafrTxo momavali, bednieri<br />
cxovreba.<br />
goga afciauri: gavixsenoT<br />
pirveli Sexvedra rogori<br />
iyo 2008 wlis omis Semdeg,<br />
imitom, rom omma bevri<br />
travmirebuli adamiani datova,<br />
gavixsenoT maSindeli emocia.<br />
ras ambobdnen adamianebi<br />
am Sexvedraze?<br />
nana sabanaZe: rom giTxra,<br />
emociuri ar iyoo, ar damijerebT.<br />
Cven monawile mxareebi<br />
Sexvedras ver movifiqrebdiT,<br />
rom ar yofiliyo<br />
manana mebuke. iyo seqtemberi,<br />
roca pirvelad am ideam gai-<br />
JRera omis Semdeg, roca man<br />
SemogvTavaza SevxvedrodiT<br />
erTmaneTs da gvesaubra im<br />
tragediaze, rac moxda da,<br />
marTalia, roca adamiani aseT<br />
tkivils gadaitan, moSuSebisTvis<br />
gWirdeba sxvisi biZgi,<br />
rom es yvelaferi gadaxarSo,<br />
gadaitano da ar CaiZiro, ar<br />
CauRrmavde imas, rac moxda.<br />
Sexvedra, ra Tqma unda,<br />
iyo emociuri, iyo darRveva<br />
yvelanairi diplomatiuri<br />
Sexvedrisa da molaparakebisa,<br />
magram yvelaferi dam-<br />
Tavrda imiT, rom erTmaneTs<br />
vuTxariT Cveni tkivilis<br />
Sesaxeb da arc iyo gasakviri.<br />
ra Tqma unda, imaTac eqnebodaT<br />
gasaxsenebeli cudic da<br />
Cvenc, magram mTavari is iyo,<br />
rom survili Sexvedrebisa,<br />
orive mxares hqonda da amiT<br />
damTavrda pirveli Sexvedra,<br />
romelsac mohyva meore, mesame<br />
da a. S. da maSin, yoveli Sexvedra<br />
aRar iwyeboda im Zveli<br />
emociis gaxsenebiT da im Zveli<br />
tkivilis gaxsenebiT, erTmaneTisTvis<br />
SexsenebiT, rac<br />
Secdomebi dagviSvia. yoveli<br />
momdevno Sexvedra iyo ukve<br />
axali ideis, axal Temaze<br />
msjeloba, rom ar SevxebodiT<br />
politikas, erTmaneTisTvis<br />
mtkivneul sakiTxebs da imis<br />
mcdeloba, rom erTmaneTisTvis<br />
tkivili ar migveyenebina.<br />
amas Sinaganad vgrZnobdiT, ra<br />
unda gveTqva erTmaneTisTvis<br />
iseTi, rom maT Tavmoyvareobas<br />
ar SevxebodiT, maT grZnobebs.<br />
urTierTobas ar vwyvetdiT<br />
da samomavlod vinarCunebdiT<br />
xazs, Tu raze unda<br />
gvelaparaka momdevno Sexvedrebze.<br />
ase gamoviareT 2008<br />
wlidan dRemde. es urTierTobebi<br />
farTovdeba, grZeldeba,<br />
monawileTa ricxvi icvleba<br />
da axalgazrdebi erTvebian<br />
am SexvedrebSi da es Zalian<br />
kargia. maSin, albaT, ver vifiqrebdi<br />
imaze, rom meTqva<br />
Tu rogor mewyina es movlena,<br />
ra moxda, ra ganvicade, ra<br />
davkarge, rogor davzaraldi,<br />
magram erTmaneTTan Sexvedram<br />
dagvanaxa, rom me isini ufro<br />
miyvardnen, vgrZnobdi, rom<br />
maTac stkiodaT omisgan miyenebuli<br />
iarebi da, saerTod,<br />
vTvli, rom dialogi, saubari<br />
yovelTvis xsnis problemas<br />
da ar unda gamoiketos arc<br />
erTi mxare da TavisTvis ar<br />
unda CaixarSos im tkivilSi,<br />
romelic arsebobs, erTmaneTs<br />
unda gauziaron, unda moilaparakon<br />
da problema advilad<br />
gadawydeba.<br />
lira kozaeva: ra Tqma<br />
unda, umniSvnelovanesia qal-<br />
Ta CarTuloba am procesebSi.<br />
rac Seexeba Cems damokidebulebas<br />
mSvidobis kuTxiT,<br />
absoluturad viwyeb axalgazrdobiT,<br />
radgan Tavad<br />
axalgazrdobam gadaitana am<br />
omis sisastike. mxedvelobaSi<br />
myavs is axalgazrdebi, romlebic<br />
daibadnen konfliqtis<br />
dros, gaizardnen am periodSi,<br />
ibrZodnen 2008 wlis<br />
omSi da mTeli cxovreba xedavdnen<br />
ubedurebas, sisxls<br />
da sikvdils. swored maT-<br />
Tan vapireb da minda muSaoba,<br />
radgan momavali maTia. roca<br />
Cven wavalT amqveynidan, vi-<br />
Racam xom unda daikavos Cveni<br />
adgili?..<br />
goga afciauri: rogor<br />
xdeba kadrebis SerCeva molaparakebebis<br />
procesSi, rogor<br />
rTavT qarTvel qalbatonebs?<br />
vici, am treningebis<br />
seria bevrs ukve gavlili<br />
aqvs. ramdenad momzadebuli<br />
midian isini am procesSi salaparakod?<br />
manana mebuke: Cven gvaqvs<br />
muSaobis specifika, romelic<br />
Cvens gamocdilebas efuZneba<br />
da saqmianoba ZiriTadad<br />
mimarTulia im rezoluciaze,<br />
romelic miiRo gaerom 2000<br />
wels. laparakia gaeros uSiSroebis<br />
sabWos rezoluciaze<br />
(13-25), romelic exeba qalebs,<br />
mSvidobasa da usafrTxoebas.<br />
im dros generaluri mdivani<br />
iyo kofi anani da man xmamaRla<br />
ganacxada, rom qalebis<br />
roli konfliqtis mSvidobiani<br />
daregulirebis saqmeSi<br />
_ es aris udidesi da yvela<br />
qali unda monawileobdes<br />
konfliqtis prevenciaSi, konfliqtis<br />
procesebis SeCerebaSi<br />
da konfliqtis reabilitaciis<br />
procesSi. gaeros am<br />
rezoluciis safuZvelze daviwyeT<br />
saqmianoba.<br />
pirveli, visac davukavSirdi<br />
Sida qarTlis regionSi,<br />
es iyo nana sabanaZe, vicodi,<br />
ramdenad mtkivneuli iyo<br />
misTvis cxinvalis datoveba.<br />
es tkivili CemTvis gasagebi<br />
iyo. Znelia, roca cxovreba<br />
awyobili gaqvs, mowesrigebuli<br />
da viRacis politikuri<br />
gadawyvetilebis gamo<br />
Sen gixdeba yvelafris dakargva<br />
da Tavidan cxovrebis<br />
awyoba, es rTulia, rogorc<br />
ar unda vecadoT, politikas<br />
mainc vexebiT raRac doziT.<br />
am SemTxvevaSi, Cemi pirdapiri<br />
samizne iyo nana sabanaZe, romelic<br />
aq cxovrobda 90-iani<br />
wlebis Semdeg, kargad icnobda<br />
am adamianebs, hqonda maT-<br />
Tan urTierToba. igi aris qalTa<br />
moZraobis lideri Sida<br />
qarTlSi. Cven moZraoba gvaqvs<br />
imereTSi, samegreloSi, iq sadac<br />
iZulebiT gadaadgilebuli<br />
qalebi cxovroben. pirveli,<br />
rac gavakeTeT, SevkribeT<br />
pirveli devnilebis qalTa<br />
gundi, mainteresebda maTi<br />
azri, maTi xedva da midgoma.<br />
es iyo pirveli 25-kaciani<br />
jgufi, Semdeg gavxdiT 50, 75<br />
da ase progresiT mivdivarT.<br />
amJamad 775 qali daviTvaleT<br />
axalgazrda, Tanamoazre,<br />
gulSematkivari, vinc CvenTan<br />
erTad apirebs am procesebSi<br />
CarTvas, vTvli, rom es arc<br />
ise mcire ricxvia Sida qarTlisTvis,<br />
mTavaria, rom<br />
mivdivarT win, Cven vaZlevT<br />
am adamianebs SesaZleblobas,<br />
TviTon gaarkvion ra undaT...<br />
manana mebuke: ar var feministi<br />
da ar var meamboxe,<br />
rom vifiqro, marto qalebi...<br />
vTvli, rom ori gansxvavebuli<br />
azri, ori gansxvavebuli<br />
midgoma qalis da mamakacis,<br />
erTad unda dominirebdes,<br />
unda erTmaneTSi poulobdnen<br />
konsesuss da am konsesusis<br />
safuZvelze iRebdnen gadawyvetilebebs,<br />
romelic xels<br />
Seuwyobs ara marto konfliqtebze<br />
saubars, aramed<br />
qveynis stabilur da mdgrad<br />
ganviTarebas, sadac nebismierma<br />
Cvenganma erTad unda<br />
vicxovroT.<br />
goga afciauri: bolo<br />
Sexvedraze davakvirdi, rom<br />
kacebis raodenoba sul ufro<br />
izrdeba Tqvens Sexvedrebze.<br />
gaaRviZeT interesi maTSi?<br />
manana mebuke: erT patara<br />
epizods mogiyvebiT Cemi<br />
cxovrebidan: 90-ian wlebSi,<br />
rodesac vTqvi, rom ar Sei-<br />
Zleba omiT saqmis mogvareba<br />
da es unda iyos mSvidobiani<br />
gziT, pirveli, rac miTxres<br />
omis veteranebma, omis invalideba<br />
_ omiT warTmeuli,<br />
omiT unda davibrunoTo.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom Zalian<br />
bevrs vsaubrobdiT am Temaze,<br />
mainc 2008 wlis omis Semdeg,<br />
roca sakuTar Tavze gamoscades<br />
bevri ram, CvenTan movidnen<br />
omis veteranebi da dameTanxmnen,<br />
rom marTali viyavi<br />
da amiT, Tavis mxriv, Cveni<br />
saqmianoba Seafases da Tqves,<br />
rom es procesebi samSvidobo<br />
mimarTulebiT unda wavides,<br />
rom yvela Tanamonawile unda<br />
viyoT am procesebis. aman ganapiroba<br />
is, rom Cven daviwyeT<br />
mamakacebis CarTva Cvens<br />
saqmianobaSi, rogorc Cveni<br />
gundis Tanamoazreebi da rogorc<br />
Cveni gundis mxardam-<br />
Werebi.<br />
goga afciauri: am qalTa<br />
moZraobis ZiriTadi birTvi,<br />
rogorc davakvirdi, Sida qarTlis<br />
teritoriaze gaiSala<br />
da, ZiriTadad, 2008 wlis<br />
omis Sedegad dazaralebulni<br />
da devnilni arian. rogor<br />
xdeba maTTan dakavSireba,<br />
rogor mogyavT da pirvelad<br />
ras eubnebiT am treningebze...<br />
fsiqologebis mosazrebaa,<br />
rom am adamianebSi posttravmuli<br />
stresebi jer isev<br />
arsebobs. rogor aZlevinebT,<br />
rogor alaxvinebT am bariers<br />
da Semdeg rogor midian isini<br />
ukve molaparakebebze?<br />
nana sabanaZe: omamde moxda<br />
pirveli ori jgufis Sexvedra.<br />
maSin axali devnilebi<br />
ar arsebobdnen, viyaviT<br />
devnilebi da Cveulebriv<br />
vsaubrobdiT im faqtze, rac<br />
moxda 1991 wels, magram 2008<br />
wlis agvistos omis Semdeg<br />
am yvelaferSi ukve CaerTvnen<br />
axali devnilebic da aRmova-<br />
CineT gansxvaveba Zvelsa da<br />
axal devnilebs Soris. axali<br />
devnilebi ufro agresiulebi,<br />
afeqturebi iyvnen da maTi<br />
azrovneba sxva Tematikisken<br />
(gagrZeleba meeqvse<br />
gverdze)
6<br />
midioda. e. w. Zvel devnilebs<br />
ukve gadaxarSuli gvqonda es<br />
yovelive da vakvirdebodiT,<br />
ramdenad meordeboda maTSi<br />
Cveni Tavdapirveli gancda.<br />
oms erTi da igive saxe aqvs da<br />
CvensaviT maTac eZnelebodaT<br />
axal garemosTan, sakuTrebis<br />
dakargvasTan Segueba da Sexvedrebze<br />
erTgvarad iCagrebodnen<br />
Zveli devnilebi, Tumca,<br />
isini axal devnilebs uziarebdnen<br />
gamocdilebas, aswavlidnen<br />
rogor unda gaetanaT<br />
Tavi ucxo garemoSi, magram,<br />
faqtiurad, maTi reabilitacia<br />
am treningebis dros ar<br />
xdeboda. samagierod, axali<br />
devnili roca Semodioda da<br />
iwyeboda pirveli dRe da ase<br />
Semdeg, meoTxe dRes viRebdiT<br />
sul sxva adamians da es iseTi<br />
TvalsaCino iyo, rom mere<br />
ukve interesi Cndeboda, rogor<br />
SeiZleba yvelaze ufro<br />
agresiuli devnili dbalansdes,<br />
mixvdes sad eSleba,<br />
mixvdes ra aris misi nerviulobis<br />
wyaro, ra gamoiyvans<br />
mdgomareobidan, gaaanalizon<br />
sakuTari Tavi.<br />
oTxive koordinatori individualurad<br />
vmuSaobdiT da<br />
vcdilobdiT maT samSvidobo<br />
procesebSi CarTvas. 25 qalze<br />
gaTvlil treningebze 30-ze<br />
naklebi arasodes modioda.<br />
treningebis Tematikis Wrilia<br />
saintereso da yvelafers iqiT<br />
mivyavarT, rom mSvidobis mSenebloba<br />
TiToeuli monawilis<br />
moTxovna gaxdes. Cveni mizania<br />
mSvidobis SenebiT movagvaroT<br />
konfliqti, rac ufro Sedegiania.<br />
goga afciauri: gorSi araerTi<br />
aqcia CaatareT da es<br />
aqciebi ras isaxavs miznad?<br />
xSirad gamodixarT quCaSi...<br />
nana sabanaZe: aqciebi ukve<br />
tradiciad Camoyalibda.<br />
aRvniSnavT 8 marts, 6<br />
agvistos da 21 seqtembers.<br />
8 marti _ es aris qalTa<br />
moZraobis dafuZnebis dRe<br />
da yovelTvis vikribebiT da<br />
vafasebT ganvlil weliwads;<br />
6 agvisto omis dawyebas eZ-<br />
Rvneba, TviTon faqts da<br />
movlenas vaprotestebT da<br />
pativs mivagebT daRupulTa<br />
xsovnas. am dRes cxinvalSic<br />
mimdinareobs aqcia; xolo 21<br />
seqtemberi mSvidobis saerTa-<br />
Soriso dRea da mivagebT pativs.<br />
orive mxare vaRiarebT,<br />
rom Cven varT mSvidobis<br />
maSenebeli qalebi.<br />
goga afciauri: cxinvalidan<br />
rogor axerxebT am<br />
qalbatonebis SexvedrebiT<br />
dainteresebas? aRsaniSnavia,<br />
rom qarTul sazogadoebasTan<br />
SedarebiT, cxinvalSi TviTizolaciis<br />
niSnebia, xelisuflebasTan<br />
arasamTavrobo seqtors<br />
cota problemebi aqvs.<br />
rogor axerxebs lira kozaeva<br />
qarTvel qalebTan cxinvalelebis<br />
Sexvedras?<br />
manana mebuke: problema<br />
suyvelasTvis erTia, omma<br />
daazarala yvela erovnebis<br />
adamiani da, aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
qalma, romelmac didi<br />
tragedia gadaitana, imis survili<br />
aqvs, rom es aRar ganicados<br />
sxvam. Svilmkvdari dedebi<br />
xmamaRla acxadeben, rom<br />
surT sxvas aRar daeRupos<br />
Svili omis da konfliqtebis<br />
dros, rom Serigeba undaT,<br />
rac samagaliToa yvelasTvis.<br />
cxinvalSi arian Zlieri qalbatonebi,<br />
romlebsac Seu-<br />
ZliaT sityva Tqvan nebismier<br />
sakiTxSi: Zaladobis, diskriminaciis<br />
winaaRmdeg, Tu samSvidobo<br />
procesSi. is tkivili<br />
jer ar ganelebula, Tumca,<br />
qalebi mamakacebisgan gansxvavebiT,<br />
sxvanairi TvaliT<br />
uyureben am procesebs. mamakacebi<br />
ufro ambiciurebi arian,<br />
maTTvis rTulia am procesebis<br />
humanuri TvaliT danaxva<br />
da is gancxadebebi, rac keTdeba,<br />
ar unda iyos gasakviri,<br />
radgan es aris Sewuxebuli<br />
adamianis azri...<br />
Cven unda davanaxoT adamianebs,<br />
rom yvela mSvidobaze,<br />
usafrTxod cxovrebaze<br />
vfiqrobT da vecadoT ar ganmeordes<br />
is, rac 2008 wels<br />
moxda, aRar davinaxoT SiSi<br />
Cveni Svilebis TvalebSi.aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, yvela unda<br />
viyoT xidi mSvidobisa, Cven<br />
unda davdoT patara kenWi<br />
samSvidobo mimarTulebaSi<br />
da am xidze qalebma da mamakacebma<br />
xelixelCakidebulebma<br />
unda gadaviaroT erTad da<br />
unda vifiqroT ara marto<br />
sakuTar Tavze, aramed Cveni<br />
Svilebis momavalze, Tu rogor<br />
qveyanaSi unda icxovron<br />
maT.<br />
goga afciauri: gasagebia<br />
Tqveni miznebi da amocanebi,<br />
magram am ideebs unda realizeba.<br />
modi vTqvaT, rom<br />
politikosebi, saboloo jam-<br />
Si, wyveten mainc yvelafers.<br />
maxsovs Tqveni xmamaRali<br />
qarTl-osi<br />
gancxadebebi, rom qalebis<br />
meti CarTulobaa saWiro<br />
samSvidobo politikur procesebSi.<br />
magaliTad, asaxelebdiT,<br />
rom Jenevis diskusiis<br />
formatSi ramdeni qalia Car-<br />
Tuli da a. S. viciT, rom sul<br />
ori qalia CarTuli... Tqveni<br />
azriT meti qali unda iyos<br />
CarTuli TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
da mmarTvelobis organoebSi,<br />
regionul doneze, ra aris<br />
Tqveni amocana am SemTxvevaSi<br />
da ratom iTxovT, rom metad<br />
mogaqcion yuradReba?<br />
manana mebuke: geTanxmebiT,<br />
Cemi azriT sazogadoebaSi<br />
arsebobs ori gansxvavebuli<br />
xedva da midgoma: kacis da<br />
qalis xedva. kargi iqneba,<br />
Tu es ori xedva erTmaneT-<br />
Tan Sejerdeba mrgavli magidis<br />
garSemo da iseT gadawyvetilebas<br />
miiReben, romelic<br />
politikas gaakeTilSobilebs.<br />
me ase vuwodeb qalebis Sesvlas<br />
politikaSi _ gaakeTil-<br />
Sobilebs da ara viocnebebT,<br />
aramed miviRebT iseT gadawyvetilebebs,<br />
rac aucilebelia<br />
dRes Cveni sazogadoebisTvis,<br />
Cveni xalxisTvis<br />
da mere daviwyebT ukve materialur<br />
faseulobebze da<br />
Rirebulebebze saubars. vTvli,<br />
rom aseTi ori gansxvavebuli<br />
azri aucilebelia<br />
qveynis stabilurobisTvis<br />
da mdgradi ganviTarebisTvis.<br />
da rodesac vambob, rom Jenevis<br />
molaparakebebis format-<br />
Si unda monawileobdes ara<br />
ori, aramed ufro meti qali,<br />
vfiqrob, rom qalebma kargad<br />
ician konkretuli problemebi.<br />
magaliTad, jandacvasTan<br />
dakavSirebiT, rodesac adamianebs<br />
undaT samedicino daxmarebis<br />
miReba da problema<br />
eqmnebaT; ganaTlebis sistema,<br />
roca swavla unda axalgazrdebs<br />
da amas xeli unda Seewyos;<br />
ekonomikuri sakiTxebi<br />
da ase Semdeg, rac unda gavides<br />
politikis gareT, am<br />
yvelafers politika ar unda<br />
Seexos.<br />
sazRvrispira, anu administraciuli<br />
xazis gamyof<br />
soflebSi mcxovreb glexebs<br />
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
radiodiskusia `qarTlosis xma~ `qarTl-osis~ furclebze<br />
(mexuTe gverdidan)<br />
sul ar ainteresebT politika.<br />
maTTvis mTavaria, rom<br />
mosavali, romelic miiRo,<br />
realizeba gaukeTos da ojaxi<br />
gamokvebos... swored, aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, aris sakiTxebi,<br />
romlebic unda gavides politikis<br />
gareT da am Temebze<br />
unda isaubron. ar unda iyos<br />
mxolod politikaze, ar aRiarebaze,<br />
deokupaciaze, Zalis<br />
ar gamoyenebaze saubari da<br />
darCes iseTi yofiTi sakiTxebi,<br />
romlebic dRes Cvens<br />
sazogadoebas awuxebs. aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, roca kompetenturi,<br />
mcodne, kvalificiuri<br />
qali miujdeba molaparakebis<br />
magidas, romelsac SeuZlia<br />
raRac wvlili Seitanos am<br />
saqmeSi, ra Tqma unda, es<br />
gamoiwvevs am sakiTxebis gakeTilSobilebas.<br />
goga afciauri: dasasruls,<br />
SevajamoT Cveni diskusia...<br />
viciT, rom axal proeqtebze<br />
muSaobT da rac SeiZleba<br />
meti axalgazrdis CarTvas<br />
gulisxmobT. ra xdeba cxinvalSi<br />
da ra xdeba saqarTvelos<br />
sxvadasxva qalaqSi am<br />
mimarTulebiT?<br />
manana mebuke: mqonda saubari<br />
Cvens partniorebTan,<br />
qalbaton lirasTan da, aqedan<br />
gamomdinare, getyviT, rom<br />
Cveni dRevandeli saqmianobis<br />
ZiriTadi nawili mimarTulia<br />
axalgazrdobis CarTulobaze<br />
imitom, rom Zvel Taobas<br />
axsovT is urTierTobebi<br />
da is damokidebuleba, rac<br />
wlebis ganmavlobaSi erTmaneTTan<br />
akavSirebdaT.<br />
axalgazrda Taobas omis,<br />
gasaWiris, erTmaneTis tragediis<br />
garda araferi axsovT.<br />
aman ganapiroba is, rom samSvidobo<br />
procesebSi, ZvelgazrdebTan<br />
erTad, CarTulni<br />
iyvnen axalgazrdebi, romlebic<br />
dainaxaven, rogori urTierToba<br />
arsebobs, rogor<br />
SeiZleba dialogi warmarTo<br />
ise, rom erTmaneTTan ar iCxubo,<br />
erTmaneTs Seuracxyofa<br />
ar miayeno. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />
vfiqrobT, rom axalgazrdebi,<br />
rodesac Sexvedridan<br />
dabrundebian, sxva axalgazrdebsac<br />
mouyvebian Sexvedris<br />
Sesaxeb, imformacias gaavrceleben<br />
da dainaxaven, rom<br />
Cven, adamianebi arafriT ar<br />
ganvsxvavdebiT erTmaneTisgan,<br />
garda imisa, rom sxvadasxva<br />
eris warmomadgenlebi varT<br />
da aman ar unda ganapirobos<br />
TiToeuli Cvenganis uflebis<br />
Selaxva.<br />
goga afciauri: Tqven Svilebs<br />
zrdiT da rogor warmogidgeniaT,<br />
am axalgazrdebma<br />
ra unda gaakeTon, Tu ukve<br />
akeTeben raimes imisTvis, rom<br />
raRacnairad xidi gadon os<br />
TanatolebTan?<br />
nana sabanaZe: Cveni moZraobis<br />
wevri TiTqmis yvela<br />
qalis Svili aris CarTuli<br />
Cvens moZraobaSi da rogorc<br />
ki Segnebul asakamde midian<br />
(X-XI klasi), isini ukve<br />
eswrebian Cvens treningebs<br />
(dedebTan undaT yofna),<br />
mere erTvebian ukve rogorc<br />
monawileebi. amitom Cemic,<br />
danarCenebis Svilebic arian<br />
ukve mesame qveyanaSi gasvli-<br />
Ti Sexvedrebis monawileni.<br />
es Zalian kargia, imitom, rom<br />
Cvenma Svilebma gacilebiT<br />
meti ician cxinvalis Sesaxeb,<br />
qarTul-osuri urTierTobebis<br />
Sesaxeb da garda imisa,<br />
rom swavlobs am Tematikas,<br />
rasac Cven sxva qalebs vaswavliT,<br />
axalgazrdebisTvisac<br />
aris specialuri Tematika<br />
SerCeuli da Cveni Svilebi<br />
am treningebis monawileebi<br />
arian. es TavisTavad xdeba,<br />
ar aris daZalebis procesi<br />
da maTTvis Cveulebrivi ambavia,<br />
rom iyvnen am moZraobis<br />
aqtiuri monawileebi da mxardamWerebi.<br />
am gasvliTi Sexvedrebidan<br />
gamomdinare, maT uwevT Sexvdnen<br />
pirdapir swored maT<br />
Svilebs, romelTa ojaxebic<br />
cxinvalSi cxovroben da<br />
urTierTobas Tanamedrove teqnikuri<br />
saSualebebiT agrZeleben,<br />
rac Zalian kargia da<br />
saWiro.<br />
maxsovs is periodi, roca<br />
Cemi Svili ambobda, rom gor-<br />
Si davibade, aq vcxovrob, myavs<br />
saZmo-samegobro da rogor<br />
var cxinvalelio. aranaklebi<br />
iyo Cveni moZraobis gavlena<br />
da raRac periodis Semdeg<br />
Cemma Svilebma aRmoaCines,<br />
rom cxinvali _ es aris is,<br />
romliskenac Cven Sinaganad<br />
viswrafviT, yvela adamians<br />
Tavisi fesvebi aqvs da Cveni<br />
fesvebi iq aris. amitom axalgazrdebis<br />
CarTvas Zalian<br />
didi mniSvneloba aqvs da<br />
Cvens samomavlo gegmebSic es<br />
Sedis _ Cveni moZraobis gaaxalgazrdaveba.<br />
Tumca, mniSvnelovania,<br />
Tu vin daxvdeba<br />
axalgazrdebs Zvelebidan, vin<br />
rogor informacias miawvdis<br />
imis Sesaxeb, ra iyo, rogori<br />
urTierToba hqondaT osebs da<br />
qarTvelebs da rogoria Tvi-<br />
Ton am Sexvedris monawileebis<br />
Sinagani miswrafeba: urTierTobebidan<br />
xedavs kargs,<br />
Tu xedavs cuds?<br />
ar gamovricxav, rom urTierTobebSi<br />
yovelTvis aris<br />
kargi da cudi, erovnebas<br />
ra mniSvneloba aqvs, me qarTvelTanac<br />
viCxubeb da os-<br />
Tanac, mTavaria gavarkvio<br />
saqme da Tuki maTTan urTierTobis<br />
gagrZeleba minda,<br />
es davalago, gavxsna da konfliqtis<br />
wyaro movspo.<br />
`qarTl-osi~
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
90-iani wlebSi, omis dawyebamde<br />
qarTvel axalgazrdas<br />
vuyvardi. arasdros<br />
damaviwydeba dRe, rodesac<br />
man xeli mTxova. 1991 weli<br />
idga. qalaqSi ukve aRar iyo<br />
qarTveli mosaxleoba. yvelani<br />
TbilisSi gaemgzavr-nen. Cven-<br />
Tan xSirad ar iyo sinaTle,<br />
ar gvqonda sursaTi. TiTqmis<br />
yoveldRe naxevrad mSivrebi<br />
viZinebdiT. aprilis saRamo<br />
iyo. gvianobamde SemovrCi<br />
amxanagebTan, romlebic Cemi<br />
saxlidan moSorebiT cxovrobdnen.<br />
saxlSi gvian RamiT<br />
mivedi, Cavkete kari, radgan<br />
aseT dros axalgazrda gogosTan<br />
aravin midis stumrad.<br />
vzivar da daobebul purs<br />
mivirTmev. uceb karze kakunia.<br />
gavaRe da Cemi qarTveli<br />
Tayvanismcemeli Tamazi Semomegeba.<br />
lamaz, kubokrul<br />
pijakSi da Sav SarvalSi iyo<br />
gamowyobili, fexsacmelic<br />
ubrwyinavda. aseTi eleganturi<br />
mamakaci didi xani ar<br />
menaxa, mxolod wverian mamakacebs<br />
Tu Sevxvdebodi quCaSi<br />
iSviaTad.<br />
_ ratom moxvedi? vinme<br />
daginaxavs da SeiZleba usiamovneba<br />
Semeqmnas, _ vuTxari<br />
mowyenilma.<br />
_ ho, sul 10 wuTiT movedi.<br />
nuTu gamagdeb? _<br />
mkiTxa.<br />
– Semodi, magram<br />
verafriT gagimaspinZldebi.<br />
puris<br />
garda saWmeli ar<br />
gvaqvs.<br />
– ar mSia, gmadlob.<br />
Seni wayvana<br />
minda, madina. Tu<br />
TbilisSi ar ginda<br />
cxovreba, moskovSi<br />
vicxovroT. bizness<br />
avawyob da davqorwindebiT,<br />
gveyoleba<br />
bavSvebi.<br />
_ sisulelea,<br />
Tamaz, CvenTan omia<br />
da Sen davqorwindeTo,<br />
axla magis<br />
droa?<br />
_ mere ra, rom<br />
omia. is Cven ar dagviwyia.<br />
zrdasruli adamianebi varT,<br />
gvinda ojaxis Seqmna. Sens<br />
garda aravin miyvars.<br />
– Tamaz, CemTvis amxanagad<br />
darCebi, magram colad ver<br />
gamogyvebi.<br />
– ra ubedurebaa!..<br />
_ oh, nu igoneb raRacas!<br />
amdeni lamazi gogoa amqveynad!<br />
moxedvasac ver moaswreb,<br />
rom isev Seiyvareb da daqorwindebi.<br />
_ ara, madina, ar xar mar-<br />
qarTl-osi 7<br />
omi, dro da TeTri vardebi...<br />
Tali... kargi, aRaraferi maqvs<br />
saTqmeli. bednieri iyavi.<br />
gavida wlebi da masze aRaraferi<br />
gamigia. mogvianebiT<br />
Cveni saerTo nacnobebi meubnebodnen,<br />
rom daqorwinda da<br />
sami qaliSvilis mama gaxda.<br />
iyo dro, roca Cveni saerTo<br />
nacnobebis daxmarebiT erTmaneTs<br />
mokiTxvebs vuTvlidiT.<br />
erTxelac, moulodnelad<br />
SevxvdiT erTmaneTs moskov-<br />
Si. Semdeg yvelaferi Sewyda.<br />
aRar vurekavdi. mas ojaxi hyavda<br />
_ mec.<br />
2009 wlis 8 agvistos<br />
cxinvalSi, moedanze viyavi<br />
2008 wels tragikulad da-<br />
RupulTa xsovnis wlisTavTan<br />
dakavSirebiT. moulodnelad<br />
telefonis zari gaisma da<br />
mobilurSi Tamazis xma mesmis:<br />
_ gamarjoba, madina! ramdeni<br />
welia Seni xma ar gamigia,<br />
rogor gikiTxo?<br />
davmunjdi, xma ver amoviRe.<br />
– nu dumxar, geTayva. Sen<br />
cuds arasodes gisurvebdi<br />
da arc gisurveb. dRes Cvens<br />
saerTo megobars vasaflavebT.<br />
sergo gaxsovs? mis saflavTan<br />
vdgavar da aq, am saflavze<br />
minda movigono omSi daRupulebi,<br />
rogorc Cveni, aseve<br />
Tqveni mxridan.<br />
– gmadlob, Tamaz. didsulovani<br />
adamiani xar. maradiuli<br />
xsovna Cvens sergos, _<br />
rogorc iqna amoviRe xma.<br />
_ kidev mindoda meTqva<br />
SenTvis _ ar Cerdeboda<br />
Tamazi, _ ici, madina, 14<br />
Tebervali, Seyvarebulebis<br />
dRe mindoda SenTvis momeloca.<br />
manqanis sabarguli<br />
TeTri vardebiT gavavse da<br />
cxinvalisken gamovemgzavre.<br />
qarTvelebma ergneTis saguSagoze<br />
SemaCeres da miTxres,<br />
rom gzis gagrZeleba aRar<br />
SeiZleboda. bevri vemudare,<br />
vexvewe gamoveSvi, veubnebodi,<br />
rom SenTvis unda meTqva, rogor<br />
Zalian miyvarxar, madina,<br />
da maSinve movbrundebodi<br />
ukan.<br />
`gesmiT, batono policielebo,<br />
_ veubnebodi, _<br />
madina oci welia miyvars,<br />
dRes minda mas isev vuTxra.<br />
is oci welia ar minaxavs.<br />
Tqven arasodes gyvarebiaT?~<br />
_ policielma miTxra, rom<br />
siyvarulis gulisTvisac<br />
ar SeiZleba cxinvalSi wasvla.<br />
sami saaTi vexvewebodi<br />
gamoveSvi, magram isini munjebiviT<br />
idgnen da SeSlili<br />
vegone.<br />
imedgacruebuli gamovtrialdi.<br />
moSorebiT goraze<br />
SevCerdi, saidanac cxinvali<br />
moCanda. gadmovedi manqanidan<br />
da vardebis srola im mxares<br />
daviwye, saiTac Sen cxovrobdi.<br />
saTiTaod visrodi vardebs<br />
da Tan vyvirodi, rom<br />
miyvarxar, mxolod isev Sen<br />
miyvarxar da dromac ki ver<br />
gaaqro Cemi siyvaruli. vardebi<br />
gamoilia da Cemi xmac<br />
Sewyda, Tbilisisken gamovtrialdi...<br />
skif carazonte<br />
(cxinvali)<br />
gilocavT siyvarulis dRes<br />
yvelas aqvs Tavisi gazafxuli...<br />
(miniatura)<br />
guSin, RamiT, Semodgomis<br />
mTvare Semovarda Cems<br />
oTaxSi, Tavis sxivebi Semomaxvia<br />
da gamitaca.<br />
sad ar viareT, Cveni<br />
Tanamdevi siyvaruli mosvenebas<br />
ar gvaZlevda _ is<br />
batonobda Cvenze.<br />
mTeli dedamiwa wuT-<br />
Si mimovixileT. weliwadis<br />
oTxive droSi vimogzaureT,<br />
xan zamTris<br />
susxiani qari gvixutebda<br />
gulSi, xan gazafxulis<br />
yvavilebis surneli<br />
gvaTrobda, mere cxelma<br />
zafxulma agvaforiaqa da<br />
bolos _ Tbili xelebiT<br />
Semodgomam Cagvikra<br />
gulSi.<br />
igi mSobeliviT alersiani<br />
iyo da ar msurda<br />
masTan ganSoreba, radgan<br />
win civi da ulmobeli zamTari<br />
meloda. asea, roca<br />
Cveni sicocxlis mze<br />
dasavleTisken gadaixreba,<br />
gulSi moJRriale melodiebSi<br />
naRveli sWarbobs.<br />
ramdeni saidumlo imaleba<br />
daRlili Tvalebis miRma,<br />
ramdeni fiqri da cremli,<br />
wveT-wveT rom udenia<br />
gulSi. faqiz samyaroSi<br />
uTvalav tkivils SeuRwevia,<br />
boroti sulisgan<br />
Sewuxebuls Soreuli<br />
sivrceebisken gaWra mosurvebia.<br />
ra mSvenieria Cemi saxli,<br />
Cemi Semodgoma, Cemi<br />
mTvare. qari zed mayris<br />
uTvalav foTols. fiqri<br />
mawuxebs _ naadrevad damdgomia-meTqi<br />
Semodgoma.<br />
ra Tqma unda, es Tavis motyuebaa,<br />
buneba kanonzomierad<br />
ganagebs yovelives.<br />
mere ra, rom ukan darCa<br />
mRelvare gazafxuli da<br />
dinji zafxuli, raRas<br />
veZeb? iqneb gulsac moenatra<br />
dasveneba!<br />
Tvalze kurcxal-kurcxal<br />
Camogorda cremli,<br />
mTvares Sevebrale da<br />
Sewuxebuli gauCinarda.<br />
uceb vigrZeni, vardisferi<br />
moefina aRmosavleTs<br />
da mzec amobrdRvialda.<br />
axla mzem Camikra gulSi.<br />
ra vqna, Tuki masac Zalian<br />
vuyvarvar.<br />
yvelas aqvs Tavis<br />
gazafxuli, zafxuli,<br />
Semodgoma, zamTari... ar<br />
Rirs amaze wuxili.<br />
siyvaruli... siyvaruli...<br />
siyvaruli... mxolod<br />
siyvaruli gvagrZnobinebs<br />
maradisobas, nebismier<br />
dros, asakis miuxedavad...<br />
neli Calauri<br />
kulbiTis yayaCoebi<br />
TiTqos fexakrefiT modis<br />
gazafxuli didi da patara liaxvis<br />
xeobis soflebSi. ukve mexuTed<br />
ixilavs igi damwvar saxlebs da<br />
gapartaxebul kar-midamoebs. masac<br />
monatrebia gandevnilTa xilva,<br />
aramarto qarTvelma, bevrma osmac<br />
ver gauZlo Seqmnil viTarebas da<br />
iqaurobas ganerida.<br />
aq, yovel gazafxuls, aRdgomis<br />
dResaswaulze ismoda _ qriste<br />
aRsdga, _ WeSmaritad aRsdga...<br />
axla yvelaferi mdumarebas<br />
miscemia... soflebidan ayrili da<br />
gafantuli mosaxleoba dRevandel<br />
sacxovrebelSi aRniSnavs nebismier<br />
dResaswauls da Sindabrunebis<br />
natvriT gahyurebs momavals.<br />
ai, patara sofeli kulbiTi,<br />
mTis wverze rom gadmomdgara. aqaurTa<br />
salocavebi _ RvTismSoblis,<br />
wminda marines, wminda giorgis,<br />
ioane maxaroblis _ gaocebuli<br />
dahyureben adamianebs, romelTac<br />
es xelSeuxebeli midamoebi<br />
gadauTxriaT.<br />
netav Tu isev ayvavdebian yaya-<br />
Coebi kulbiTis cixe-simagris<br />
ferdobebze, rodis mobrundebian<br />
ukan sicocxlis siyvaruliT savse<br />
kulbiTelebi, mSvenieri gogona<br />
TiTis wveridan rodis aafrens<br />
Wiamaias, gagvaxsenebs bavSvobas da<br />
leqsis striqonebs:<br />
`gazafxulze, kaklis CrdilSi,<br />
bavSvobaSi vicodiT<br />
Wia-Wiamaiebs<br />
xelis gulze visvamdiT<br />
Cumad-Cumi CurCuli<br />
gvizidavda Zalian, _<br />
Cemi bedi saiT aris<br />
Wia-Wiamaia.<br />
farTo orRobeSi garindula<br />
erekle meoris erTguli glaxo<br />
WilaSvilis nafuZarze agebuli<br />
Senoba, romelic misma STamomavalma<br />
valiko WilaSvilma aago.<br />
igi imdenad axdens STabeWdilebas,<br />
rom ganadgureba azrad aravis<br />
mosvlia. misma aRmSenebelma<br />
valiko WilaSvilma am nagebobas<br />
SemoqmedebiTi taZari uwoda.<br />
gvjera, rom dadgeba dro da is<br />
Tavis funqcias Seasrulebs.<br />
diax, pataraa kulbiTi, magram<br />
didi istoriis matarebelia. vin<br />
icis, kulbiTis cixeze anTebul<br />
kocons ramdenjer uxsnia ganadgurebisgan<br />
es kuTxe.<br />
gazafxuli ki jiutad moiwevs...<br />
adamianebic morCilad elian, rom<br />
iqneb ganaxlebulma bunebam sasixarulo<br />
cvlilebebi moitanos. manamde<br />
ki kulbiTeli qarTvelebic<br />
da osebic erTmaneTs ar iviwyeben,<br />
telefoni gabmiT wkrialebs maT<br />
ojaxebSi, epatiJebian erTmaneTs,<br />
Wirsa Tu lxinSi isev erTad<br />
arian. ician, rom isev abrialdeba<br />
wiTlad kulbiTis yayaCoebi...<br />
neli Calauri
8<br />
samxreT oseTis kosta<br />
xeTagurovis saxelobis saxelmwifo<br />
dramatuli Teatris<br />
scena erTi dRiT gaxda iumoris,<br />
talantis, sixarulisa<br />
da aRfrTovanebis TavSeyris<br />
adgili: aq gaimarTa musikaluri<br />
zRapris _ `bremenis<br />
musikosebis~ premiera.<br />
reJisoris eduard qelexsaevis<br />
niWierma namuSevarma,<br />
romelic gamogonili msaxiobis<br />
Jan-Jak xarebovis SesaniSnavi<br />
triukebiTaa gazavebuli<br />
da axalgazrda, niWieri<br />
mxatvris vadim cxovrebovis<br />
patara falavani unda<br />
gagacnoT, lado ToTrovi...<br />
Sexedav da yurSi uneburad<br />
misi jer isev bavSvuri, Tumca,<br />
ukve kacuri xmiT naTqvami<br />
cnobili leqsis striqoni<br />
gesmis: ,,me patara qarTveli<br />
var...~ jer kidev patara, magram<br />
Ronieri mxrebiT moaqvs<br />
qarTluri mZime nabijebi,<br />
xSirad moRuSuli warbebi<br />
da momxibvlel RimilTan er-<br />
Tad, sityvaZviroba... bavSvur,<br />
gulubryvilo mzeraSi raRaca<br />
saTqmels malavs da Sors<br />
urCevnia gaxedva, TiTqos<br />
borkilebi moxsnes, ise Se-<br />
TamaSdeba,…gaurbis kiTxvebs,<br />
daimorcxvebs, mere ki `ebmeba<br />
maxeSi~ da didi siamayiT<br />
gvaCvenebs diplomebs,<br />
sigelebs da asparezobisas<br />
gadaRebul fotoebs.<br />
liaxvis xeobis sofel<br />
kexvSi daibada da amJamad<br />
werovanis dasaxlebaSi<br />
cxovrobs. jer mxolod aTi<br />
wlisaa, magram didi adamianiviT<br />
dafiqrebuli da dinji<br />
biWia, gamorCeulad zrdili<br />
da vercxliswyaliviT<br />
moZravi... xSirad daRlili<br />
glexkaciviT saxlis win<br />
fantaziiT Seqmnili scenuri<br />
kostiumebiTaa Sevsebuli,<br />
mayurebeli ori saaTiT sike-<br />
Tisa da jadosnobis samyaro-<br />
Si gadaiyvana.<br />
saxaliso speqtaklis<br />
saintereso prsonaJebma namdvili<br />
megobrobis demonstrireba<br />
moaxdines. kaprizuli<br />
da ganebivrebuli princesa,<br />
keTili, gauTleli mefe,<br />
brZeni masxara, cnobismoyvare<br />
da eSmaki meZebari da<br />
mcvelebi _ yvela es saxe<br />
samxreT oseTis saxelmwifo<br />
dramatuli Teatris sayva-<br />
Camomjdaric minaxavs<br />
da Sevwuxebulvar,<br />
is ki mTeli<br />
seriozulobiT<br />
mpasuxobs, _ ra<br />
vici, vfiqrobo...<br />
arada, safiqrali<br />
ki namdvilad<br />
bevri aqvs _ iq<br />
skolis gakveTilebi,<br />
iq megobrebTan<br />
garToba da axali<br />
Tavgadasavlebi, iq<br />
Widaobaze rogor<br />
moipovos mwvrTnelis<br />
jadosnuri<br />
Seqeba ,,yoCaR!~,<br />
imasac fiqrobs,<br />
Tavisufali dro<br />
ipovos, mamas amoudges<br />
mxarSi da Tavisi xeliT<br />
Cargos rame patara baR-<br />
Si, mere Tavisze ufros das,<br />
Tikosac ,,mixedos da gaakontrolos,<br />
_ ukve didi gogoa<br />
da ra ici, ra xdeba“... amasobaSi<br />
samsaxuridan daRlili<br />
dedac rom dabrundeba, mZime<br />
CanTas xom ar daanebebs! Uuxmod<br />
da upretenziod cdilobs<br />
sirTuleebTan SeWidebas<br />
es patara biWi... isedac<br />
kargad icis, rom devnilebs<br />
qarTl-osi<br />
relma msaxiobebma Seqmnes<br />
da madlier mayurebels ase<br />
daamaxsovres Tavi.<br />
aRfrTovanebuli mzera,<br />
SeZaxilebi da bavSvebis Tu<br />
mozrdilebis xmamaRali sicili,<br />
romlebsac saerTod<br />
daaviwydaT TavianTi asaki,<br />
statusi Tu problemebi, saukeTeso<br />
mtkicebulebaa imis,<br />
rom premiera Sedga.<br />
`viri Zalian sasaciloa,<br />
kata ki iseTi lamazia! me ki<br />
zogjer princesasaviT kaprizuli<br />
var,~ _ gabrwyinebuli<br />
TvalebiT gviTxra patara<br />
nastia kotaevam.<br />
misasalmebelia, rom speqtaklis<br />
gmirebi mxolod<br />
osur enaze metyvelebdnen.<br />
`es xom nacionaluri<br />
Teatria! ra Tqma unda, osurad!~<br />
_ amgvari iyo saxelmwifo<br />
dramatuli Teatris<br />
samxatvro xelmZRvanelis<br />
soslan bibilovis odnav aRSfoTebuli<br />
pasuxi premieris<br />
dawyebamde kiTxvaze, Tu ra<br />
enaze isaubrebdnen speqtaklis<br />
dros msaxiobebi.<br />
cxinvalidan<br />
,,me minda~ ar ekadrebaT, magram<br />
is xom jer saamisod<br />
Zalian pataraa da bevri ram<br />
unda, rogor ar unda!<br />
lado werovanis devnilTa<br />
skolaSi swavlobs da rogorc<br />
misi pedagogebi amboben, erTerTi<br />
gamorCeuli moswavlea,<br />
saocari erTgulebiTa da<br />
pasuxismgeblobis grZnobiT<br />
dajildoebuli. skolaSic<br />
xSirad sCvevia ganmartoveba,<br />
xandaxan TavisTvis raRacas<br />
wers kidec, Tumca, ar uyvars<br />
yuradRebis centrSi yofna.<br />
erT-erTi saklaso samuSao<br />
ki ase dausrulebia: ,,bevri<br />
araferi minda vinatro, me<br />
xom xarbi ar minda viyo.<br />
yvelaze metad minda, sasaxelo<br />
moWidave gavxde, mqondes<br />
Zala, rom Cemi gamarjvebiT<br />
mSoblebi amayobdnen. trabaxi<br />
ar miyvars, magram bevrs ki<br />
vvarjiSob, kidev rom ufri<br />
meti movindomo, albaT, CemiT<br />
iamayeben kidec!~<br />
_ skolaSi ,,gagTqves~,<br />
rom xandaxan, Turme, raRacas<br />
wer da aravis akiTxeb...<br />
arc Cven gagvandob? aravis<br />
vetyvi...<br />
_ ra vici, rogor<br />
giTxraT, xandaxan viniSnav<br />
rame ar damaviwydes, xan rame<br />
azri rom maq, imas viwer...<br />
xan aRsarebaSi rame ar gamomrCes<br />
mamaosTan da aseT<br />
rames qveyanas xom ar gavagebineb...<br />
_ isic gavige, rom eklesiuri<br />
xar da bevri zrdasruli<br />
adamianisagan gansxvavebiT,<br />
sul ar giWirs marxvis<br />
Senaxva... vici, rom wirvalocvas<br />
eswrebi werovanis<br />
axladaSenebul iklesiaSi...<br />
#2 (23), Tebervali, 2013 w.<br />
`bremenis musikosebi~ samxreT oseTis Teatris scenaze<br />
patara moWidave _ lado ToTrovi<br />
_ sulac ar miyvars<br />
bevri laparaki... RmerTi Zalian<br />
keTilia da is bavSvebs<br />
survilebs aucileblad<br />
agvisrulebs, minda rwmena<br />
damexmaros Cemi ocnebebis<br />
asrulebaSi.<br />
_ maSin, is mainc gviTxari,<br />
Widaobis Seaxeb rom seriozuli<br />
gegmebi gaqvs?<br />
_ minda, did warmatebas<br />
mivaRwio da sasaxelo<br />
qarTveli moWidave gavxde,<br />
Cemi samSoblo da ojaxi<br />
amayobdes Cemi jildoebiT,<br />
viyo gamoCenili moWidave,<br />
meti jer ar vici, ra unda<br />
giTxraT. minda, rom Zalian<br />
Ronieri viyo.<br />
...raRa unda Tqvas, sityva-<br />
Zunwobs, TerTmeti wlis ki<br />
ara, ase mgonia, zrdasruli,<br />
TavSekavebuli da daRvinebuli<br />
axalgazrda mesaubreba...<br />
mjera, win uamravi<br />
jildo da didi cxovrebiseuli<br />
asparezi elis ukve<br />
saamayo falavans. vacadoT,<br />
jer Zalian pataraa da ukve<br />
gamorCeulad mizandasaxulic...<br />
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