qronika+4(225)

okerias? analogiurad, enm-is
kandidatma rom moigos da boke-
riam romc mouwodos „evsaqos”
eleqtorats, xma mieciTo, misce-
men isini Tqvens kandidats xmas?
gaamarTlebs ki es praimerisi?
_ Tu movindomebT da praimeriss
kargad CavatarebT, gaamarTlebs.
is gamowveva, razec vsaubrobdiT,
amasac moicavs, Cven unda
varwmunoT adamianebi, rom maT
SeiZleba, ar msowondeT praimerisSi
gamarjvebuli kandidati, magram
mTavaria, rom saxelmwifoSi
arsebobdes erTgvari politikuri
balansi.
_ roca aseTi emociuri damokidebuleba
aqvs Tqvens eleqtor-
ats partiidan wasulebze, ar
geCvenebaT, rom gagiWirdebaT
misi darwmuneba? gamoricxavT,
rom praimerisma ukuSedegi mo-
itanos? Catardes praimerisi,
dadges erTi kandidati da am kandidatis
gamarjvebiT ganawyeneb-
uli eleqtorati saerTod aRarc
movides arCevnebze.
_ geTanxmebiT, Zalian seriozuli
gamowvevaa da Zalian mniSvnelovani
roli aqvT liderebs am
SemTxvevaSi, Tu rogor axsnian am
yvelafers. ki, rTuli saqmea da es
rTuli saqme unda gavakeToT, es
sirTule unda gadavlaxoT, Tavisufleba
ise ar modis. Cven unda
davicaloT emociuri damokidebulebisgan.
Cven am arCevnebze
gvWirdeba kargad gaazrebuli da
emociebisgan daclili arCevnis
gakeTeba. aqamde, mTeli Cveni arsebobis
ganmavlobaSi, qarTveli
adamiani midioda da akeTebda emociur
arCevans, an viRaca Zalian
uyvarda, an viRaca Zalian ezizReboda
da es iyo ZiriTadi motivatori
simpaTiebisa ama Tu im kandidatis
mimarT. es unda damTavrdes.
adamiani unda dajdes da
kargad gaiazros, gaaanalizos,
ras miscems mas da saxelmwifos
ama Tu im kandidatis mxardaWera.
mxolod aseTi fiqris Semdeg unda
wavides adamiani da misces xma.
amis dro movida ukve. Cven sakmaod
ganviTarebuli sazogadoeba
varT imisTvis, rom rogorme movaxerxoT
eg, gverdze gadavdoT
emociebi da civi gonebiT gavake-
ToT gaazrebuli arCevani. Torem
is, rom enm-is amomrCevels bokeria
ar moewoneba, an CergoleiSvils
_ Cveni kandidati, es dResaviT
naTelia, magram arafers unda
niSnavdes da es im CergoleiSvilsac
unda gavagebinoT. ki, mesmis,
es Zalian rTuli iqneba, magram
Tuki dadgeba is momenti, rom enmis,
an sxva partiis kandidati gaimarjvebs
praimerisSi, es CergoleiSvilic
unda movides da gaazrebulad
misces xma.
_ saakaSvilis gancxadebas
opoziciis TanamSromlobaze axvledianic
gamoexmaura da komen-
tarebi akeTa, gegoneba, mas vinme
eqaCeba TanamSromlobaze. ram-
denadac yurT ar maklia, kargad
gavige, saakaSvili saubrobda
prodasavluri partiebis Tanam-
Sromlobaze da ara prorusul
ZalebTan TanamSromlobaze. da
mainc, Tu rame Seicvala da dRis
wesrigSi dadga, ivaniSvilis wina-
aRdeg, prodasavlurTan erTad,
prorusul partiebTan Tanam-
Sromlobac, TqvenTvis, konkret-
ulad kote ioselianisTvis, mis-
aRbi iqneba amgvari gaerTianeba?
ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg brZola
prorusul ZalebTan erTad?
_ gamoricxulia aseTi ram,
prorusul partiebTan Cven ar
vTanamSromlobT da arc viTanam-
SromlebT. burjanaZis partiam
rac ar unda iZaxos, ar var prorusulio,
Cven mas aRviqvamT ruseTis
Cveulebriv satelit organizaciad,
iseve rogorc „patrio-
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com
`Zalian kargad vicnob bokerias da zustad vici, rasac fiqrobs.
misTvis politika biznesia, rodesac raRac momentSi vaWrob,
raRac momentSi midixar kompromisebze, daTmobebze, raRac
momentSi principulad dgebi Sens poziciaze, Tumca, saerTo
jamSi, es aris biznesi. Cvensa da evropul saqarTvelos Soris
realuri gansxvaveba swored esaa, maTTvis politika biznesia,
CvenTvis ki es aris Zalauflebis mopoveba da xelisuflebaSi
mosvlisTanave im ideebis ganxorcieleba, rac Cven migvaCnia
sworad qveynis ganviTarebisTvis. `nacionalurma moZraobam~ es
erTxel ukve daamtkica xelisuflebaSi yofnisas, aRar
CamovTvli im reformebs, ekonomikur warmatebebs, did
infrastruqturul proeqtebs~
tTa alianss” da raRa Sors mivdivarT,
ruseTis Cveulebrivi „stavlenikia”
biZina ivaniSvili. mkiTxvels
Sevaxseneb, riTac gansxvavdeba
„stavleniki” marionetisgan:
marionets svamen, rodesac
qveyanas ipyroben, „stavleniki” ki
is piria, romlis Casmac xdeba
dapyrobamde da is amzadebs situacias
ise, rom an Tavad am qveyanam
mogTxovos, Semodi, gviSveleo,
an ukve aRarc hqondeT imis Tavi,
rom gesrolon da winaaRmdegoba
gagiwion. es brwyinvaled gaakeTa
ianukoviCma ukrainaSi da igives
akeTebs ivaniSvili aq, aseve brwyinvaled.
Cveulebrivi „stavlenikia”,
romelic principul sakiTxebSi
pirdapir iziarebs rusul
survilebsa da politikas. iqneba
es „gazpromTan” xelSekruleba,
Tu ruseTis winaaRmdeg sanqciebTan
armierTeba.
_ anu gamoricxavT prorusul
ZalebTan TanamSromlobas ivaniS-
vilis winaaRmdeg?
_ aravin apirebs maTTan Tanam-
Sromlobas. burjanaZisa da inaSvilis
partiebTan araTu am konteqstSi,
saerTo kandidatis dayenebas
vgulisxmob, saerTod aranair
konteqstSi arsad arasdros
ar ganixileboda, xumrobis donezec
ki, araTu seriozulad. eg
bokerias SeuZlia yvelasTan TanamSromloba,
Tuki mis interesSi
Sedis. rogorc giTxariT, politika
misTvis biznesia da ar gamovricxav,
rom raRac doneze dawyvildes
an burjanaZesTan, an inaSvilTan,
Tu es iqneba mis interesebSi.
CvenTan es gamoricxulia.
_ wlevandeli weli kidev uf-
ro mZafrad daiwyo, kidev ufro
gamwvavda kriminogenuri viTareba,
amas emateba dRemde gaugo-
nari faqtebi, iqneba es bavSvebis
kveba baRebSi, Tu TavSi metros
mortyma, realobidan siurealo-
baSi viskupeT, mgoni, roca eseni
movidnen, gvqonda SiSi, rom 90-
ianebSi davbrundebiT, magram aR-
movCndiT sxva realobaSi, im 90-
ianebSic ki ar mogvxvedria met-
ro TavSi. ki, viWedebodiT, „tun-
el-tunel” davdiodiT, magram
TavSi ar mogvxvedria.
_ araferi siurealizmi es araa,
es aris saxelmwifoebriobis CamoSlis
klasikuri procesi, am gzas
gavdivarT axla Cven. es gza bevrma
saxelmwifom gaiara, romlebic
sabolood CamoiSalnen. anu Cven
axla varT saxelmwifoebriobis
ngrevis klasikur fazaSi, iq is
struqtura iWedeba, iq kriminali
batondeba, iq policia ebmeba kriminalSi,
midis maTTan TanamSromlobaze,
iq saxelmwifos sWirdeba
qurdebi saarCevnod, iq, rogorc
Cans, saxelmwifo teroristebTan
TanamSromlobs, iq, rogorc Cans,
saxelmwifo muxTarlis itacebs
imitom, rom raRac biznesinteresebi
dalagdes azerbaijanTan, iq
korufciuli garigebebi ideba da
metro TavSi gvxvdeba da a. S. icvlebian
kadrebi da ar icvleba
sistema. gaxsovT, rac xdeboda
kvirikaSvilis premier-ministrad
daniSvnisas, gaxsovT terminic
„kvirikaSvilis efeqti”, Zalian
bevri cnobili piri saubrobda,
rom es imaze ukeTesia, rom maT
Soris didi gansxvavebaa.
_ ki, rom, Turme, respeqtabeluria,
rafinirebulia, davarcxnilia
da es yvelaferi damTavr-
da keTilmot***nulos ZaxiliT.
_ da, realurad, RaribaSvilis
mmarTvelobis meTodologia saerTod
arafriT Seicvala. ra mniSvneloba
aqvs, dRes kvirikaSvili
hqvia premier-ministrs, Tu RaribaSvili
erqva maSin, saxelmwifo
mmarTvelobis sistemaSi rame Seicvala?
xom araferi Secvlila,
zustad ase ar Seicvleba WikaiZis,
mRebriSvilisa da gaxarias saministroebi.
Tu gaxarias realurad
unda rame gamoasworos, pirvel
rigSi, unda midges da daiWiros is
policielebi, romlebic ukanono
brZanebebs asrulebdnen, udebdnen
narkotiks, itacebdnen mux-
Tarlis. muxTarlis saqme rom gamoiZios
da konkretuli damna-
Saveebi daakaos, kidev SeiZleba
raRacaze saubari, rom sistemas
daupirispirda, magram es xom gamoricxulia,
Cven xom viciT, rom
es ar moxdeba, am xelisuflebis
pirobebSi? realurad, ras akeTebs
ivaniSvili? viRacas mogabezrebs
da mere Secvlis. Tavis droze iyo
xaduri, mogvabezra, mere mogvaSora
da dagvisva sxva, magram ra, Cveni
finansuri politika Seicvala
Tu monetaruli? araferi, ubralod,
xaduri mogbezrda, waiyvana da
moiyvana sxva. jejelavaze atyda
erTi ambavi, roca mogabezra,
mogvaSora. Tavis droze, RaribaSvili
mogvabezra da gamocvala,
anu orTqlis gamoSvebis erTgvari
meqanizmia, marionetebi cvalo,
cvalo da, saerTo jamSi, araferi
icvleba. amaSic gvatyuebs xalxs!
vinmes aqvs imis iluzia, rom biZina
ivaniSvili ar monawileobs sakadro
politikaSi? Tu amis iluzia
vinmes aqvs, amqveynad ar yofila
saerTod. aranairi mniSvneloba
ar aqvs, vin iqneba ministri, es
oligarqiuli, araformaluri
mmarTveloba dgas korufciaze,
Zalovani struqturebis borotad
gamoyenebaze, dgas zogadad represiul
meqanizmebze da nepotizmze,
rac mTavaria. Tqven ggoniaT,
ivaniSvils yvelaferi kargad
aqvs? misTvis mTavari amocana xelisuflebis
SenarCuneba da enmis
ganadgureba iyo, rasac ver miaRwia,
ver gaanadgura „nacionaluri
moZraoba”, Zalian bevri mcdelobis
miuxedavad. amisTvis ibr-
Zoda, Torem ra ggoniaT, risTvis
ibrZoda da ibrZvis, rom beselias
hqondes raRac gavlenebi da isargeblos
korufciiT, Tu imisTvis,
rom sesiaSvils Tavisi Svili
daewinaurebina sus-Si? amisTvis
ibrZoda ivaniSvili? cxadia, ara,
ubralod, maT miugdo es nepotizmi
da korufcia, rom Seesrulebina
is, rac surda, magram
mainc ver Seasrula. 2012 wlis
Semdeg enm araerTma adamianma
datova, magram dRes ufro meti
adamiani modis. enm ideaa, ideologiaa
da amitomaa Zlieri partia.
enm-is mxars uWers iseTi
xalxic ki, vinc arsad muSaobda im
wlebSi, magram farTod xedaven
suraTs, undaT progresi, qveynis
ganviTareba, Zlier saxelmwifoSi
cxovreba da xedaven, rom am qveyanas
realurad aqvs momavali. xedaven
imas, rom enm iswrafis
swored am momavlisken, Zlieri
saxelmwifosken da ras eubneba
„ocneba” xalxs? rom Cven Segvi-
Zlia raRac regionul formatSi
viTanamSromloT mezoblebTan,
magram Cven verasodes gavxdebiT
verc Sveicaria, verc luqsemburgi,
verc holandia, imitom rom
patara sofeli varT. arada, saxelmwifos
zomas ar aqvs aranairi
mniSvneloba, am patara qveynebs,
nebismier saerTaSoriso formatebSi,
sadac erTad arian evropis
did saxelmwifoebTan, aqvT
Tanabari xmis ufleba. dRes msoflioSi
arian civilizebuli saxelmwifoebi,
naklebad ganviTarebuli
saxelmwifoebi da arian
CamoSlili saxelmwifoebi da Cvenzea
ukve, romel kategoriasTan
movaxdenT sakuTari Tavis identificirebas.
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`me mesmis, rom am adamianebma, Tavis droze, CaTvales, rom giga bokerias
mier saakaSvilisa da enm-is winaaRmdeg wamowyebuli kampania swori iyo,
magram axla imedia, xvdebian, sinamdvileSi ra surda bokerias. bokerias
surda, saakaSvili Camoecilebina `nacionaluri moZraobisTvis~, rac
pirdapir Sedioda ivaniSvilis interesSi. giga bokerias rom
politsabWoze kenWisyra moego, dRes saakaSvili iqneboda marto da
`nacionaluri moZraoba~ iqneboda giga bokeria da mTeli es resursi,
rogorc adamianuri, aseve materialur-teqnikuri, aseve es ideologiuri
baza, yvelaferi iqneboda misi. es undoda mas~
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