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Pr<strong>of</strong>: Idha Salim: Vipi wanawake watasaidiwa mama?<br />

Beatrice: Kusomesha watoto, kuchugua hiyo mzigo na funga hiyo pombe. Huyo mwanaume akienda kwa kazi akalete hiyo<br />

unga, na kama anakwenda kwa pombe iko faida gani, watoto hapana kula, mama hapana kula. Hiyo ifungwe kabisa, tena hii<br />

dawa ya siptali ilienda wapi na zamani tulikuwa tunaenda kama mtu ni mgonjwa anakwenda siptali akatibiwa akarudi, sasa mimi<br />

ninasema nikomgonjwa na hakuna pesa ya kwenda siptali. Mtoto akigonjeka hakuna pesa ya kwenda siptali.<br />

Pr<strong>of</strong>: Idha Salim: Asante sana mama. Sijui kama wenzangu wana kitu cha kukuuliza? Asante, tumekufahamu sana. Joseph<br />

Karangu.<br />

Joseph Karangu: My name is Joseph Karangu, DP organizing secretary kutoka Kahawa Ward. I have a few points to<br />

make. Siku ya uchaguzi inatakikana itangazwe miaka miwili kabla ya uchaguzi ndio kila mtu ambaye anataka kuchaguliwa awe<br />

amejipanga. The chairman wa elections anatakikana kuwa mtu ambaye amechaguliwa na act <strong>of</strong> parliament lakini sio mtu mmoja<br />

achague ule mtu anasimamia uchaguzi. We must have free education from std. one to std. Eight, mostly in secondary schools,<br />

those people who cannot afford to pay their fee they should be paid for by the government. The leaders <strong>of</strong> labour movement<br />

should be people who are not interested in elective posts but people who are not in any way connected in any political parties.<br />

We must have a free health clinic for all Kenyans. With regars to NSSF, those people who contribute to NSSF should be<br />

refunded their money after leaving their place <strong>of</strong> work after two years instead <strong>of</strong> waiting for someone to turn fifty. The NSSF<br />

contributions should be refunded two years after leaving work. Ninataka kueleza hivi, mtu ambaye anatoa hizi pesa za NSSF,<br />

inatakikina, ukisha wacha kazi uwe unarudushiwa pesa zako baada ya miaka miwili badala ya ile miaka hamsini kwa vile hii<br />

miaka hamsini wengine hawaendi kuchua ile pesa, kwa hivyo hiyo pesa zinajisaidia na watu wale ambao hawajatoa jasho yao<br />

pale. Si mtu lazima umri wako ufikishe fifty years ndio uende kuchukua contribution yako? Lakini sasa watu kama sisi,<br />

waliacha kazi ten years ago, sasa situtangojea mpaka tufikishe miaka hamsini ndio tuchukue ile contribution?<br />

Interjection: Inaudible<br />

Joseph: Ukiangalia, tuseme, na ni vibaya sana kutaja jina la mtu, ukiangalia kama huyu Mugalla ule alikuwa chairman wa<br />

COTU, alikuwa anachaguliwa na Kanu, kwa hivyo wakati ule anapeleka masilahi ya wanainchi, yeye mwenyewe hawezi tetea<br />

wanainchi kwa sababu yeye ni <strong>of</strong>ficial wa political party. Lakini akiwa hana chama yeyote, yeye hatakuwa na uwezo wa<br />

kutetea wanainchi, wafanyi kazi.<br />

Pr<strong>of</strong>: Idha Salim: Asante sana bwana Joseph Karangu. Timothy Igondi, start with your name please.<br />

Timothy Igondi: I am presenting my views as an individual. Number one is the appointment <strong>of</strong> chiefs and sub-chiefs. These<br />

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