June 24, 2008 - NH.gov

STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY
John J. Barthelmes, Commissioner
Division of Fire Safety
Office of the State Fire Marshal
J. William Degnan, State Fire Marshal
Bureau of Electrical Safety and Licensing
Office: 110 Smokey Bear Boulevard, Concord, NH
Mailing Address: 33 Hazen Drive, Concord, N.H. 03305
603-223-4289, FAX 603-223-4295
www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/firesafety/building/electrician/
ELECTRICIANS BOARD
June 24, 2008
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Electricians’ Board was held at the Division of Fire Safety Office, 110 Smokey
Bear Boulevard, Concord, NH on the above date, beginning at 9:30am. Unless otherwise indicated, the members present
and participating were Henry Szumiesz (Chairman); Thomas Malley, Gerald McCarthy and Dennis Hager (public
member) and Robert Farley, Deputy Fire Marshal. Also present were Mark Hilbert, Chief Electrical Inspector and Dean
Sotirakopoulos, Kenneth Vallery and Alfio Torrisi,; Electrical Inspectors and Pamela Olin, Administrative Assistant. A
motion to approve the minutes of the May 27, 2008 meeting was made by Thomas Malley seconded by Dennis Hager and
passed. New Electrical Inspector Alfio Torrisi was welcomed.
Raymond Staples completed the schooling required of him. A motion was made by Thomas Malley to accept the
schooling and send a thank you to Mr. Staples. The motion was seconded by Dennis Hager and passed. The Education
Committee did not meet. The Apprenticeship Curriculum Committee did not meet. Their next meeting will be July 23 rd at
1:00 pm. A question came up as to whether the schools, Dept of Education were still sending out completion letters for the
apprentices each year. The next State Advisory Committee on Fire Protection and Certification meeting will be August 1,
2008. Gerald McCarthy resigned as the representative the State Advisory Committee on Fire Protection and Certification,
a new representative will be nominated. Thomas Malley reported on the June meeting of the Building Code Review
Board. The new Chairman is Donald Bliss. The Building Code Review Board voted on the Exhibits the Electricians Board
reviewed and made recommendations on at their April 29 th meeting. The votes were: Exhibit 43 regarding NFPA 70
Section 210.12(B) was 9 to 3 not to adopt, Exhibit 44 regarding NFPA 70 Section 680.26(7)(C) was 12 to 0 not to adopt,
Exhibit 45 regarding NFPA 70 Section 406.11 was 10 to 2 not to adopt. Exhibit 46 regarding NFPA 70 Section 406.08
was 12 to 0 not to adopt and Exhibit 47 regarding NFPA 70 Section 210.5(C) was 12 to 0 to adopt. Thomas Malley
resigned from his position on the Building Code Review Board effective September 1, 2008.
A motion to approve the 2008 Code Provider Application for EC&M (John Dedad) pending the receipt of additional
information was made Henry Szumiesz and seconded by Gerald McCarthy and passed. A motion to approve the 2008
Code Provider Application for IBEW Local 7 (Mark Kuenzel) pending the receipt of additional information was made
Thomas Malley and seconded by Henry Szumiesz and passed.
As an application for corporation license was received from Live Wire LLC the hearing was reopened to discuss the
decision. A motion was made by Thomas Malley to require a two year limitation where Live Wire LLC would be required
to report on a monthly basis for 24 months all employees with electrical licenses and apprentice ID cards and all electrical
jobs. The motion was seconded by Gerald McCarthy and passed.
The committee planning the reciprocal meeting with Maine, Massachusetts and Vermont will meet in July. Bills SB360,
SB 440 and SB453 were all signed by the Governor.
Inspector Hilbert reported that the exams were being updated to the 2008 NEC for the July exams. The meeting with the
multi state group will be in Alaska, August 4-5. New Hampshire will be hosting this meeting in 2009. Inspector Hilbert
reviewed all the proposed rule changes with the Board. A motion was made by Henry Szumiesz to have Inspector Hilbert
take the older changes when he meets with the attorney working on our rule changes while the newer changes regarding
criminal questions to be put in the new applications will be discussed further. Inspector Hilbert brought to the Board a
situation which Inspector Vallery has been dealing with: John Arrison with an unregistered apprentice making electrical

installations – with prior instances of the same issue in previous years. A motion was made by Thomas Malley that Mr.
Arrison be brought in for a hearing with the Board in July for having an unregistered apprentice making electrical
installations. The motion was seconded by Gerald McCarthy and passed. Inspector Hilbert brought to the Board a second
situation which Inspector Vallery has been dealing with: George Smith with unlicensed employees, claiming to be
licensed, making electrical installations. A motion was made by Henry Szumiesz that Mr. Smith be brought in for a
hearing with the Board in July for having unlicensed employees making electrical installations. The motion was seconded
by Dennis Hager and passed.
Inspector Sotirakopoulos reported that there is an exam form that has standard method of load calculations that some of
the teachers have for students who asked if it could be used for the exam. Since this would only be available to the
students taking those courses and the information can be found in the books allowed, a motion was made by Henry
Szumiesz that this NOT be allowed at the exam. The motion was seconded by Gerald McCarthy.
Inspector Vallery reported that the fairs are being proactive regarding the 2008 NEC changes, currently he has worked
with the North Haverhill, Lancaster and Sandwich Fairs meeting with the AHJs.
Inspector Torrisi reported that he is getting all set up and that he is due to be in Hudson making inspections with Inspector
Joe Bourque on Thursday.
Motion to commence non public session (minutes kept separately)
On the motion of Thomas Malley seconded by Gerald McCarthy the board voted to conduct a non public session for the
purpose of discussing confidential board business, namely a matter which if discussed in public would likely affect
adversely the reputation of a person, other than a member of the body or agency itself and records pertaining confidential
information noting that such a non public session is authorized by RSA 91-A:3,II(c) and RSA 91-A:5,IV. Each member
recorded his or her vote on the motion, which passed by the unanimous vote of all members present.
Upon the motion of Thomas Malley and second of Gerald McCarthy, the Board voted to withhold the minutes of the non
public session from public disclosure pursuant to RSA 91-A:3,III on the grounds that public disclosure would be likely to
affect adversely the reputation of a person other than a board member. Each member recorded his or her vote on the
motion which passed by the unanimous vote of all members present.
On motion of Gerald McCarthy seconded by Thomas Malley, the Board voted to go back into public session.
With no further business to address the Board meeting adjourned at 12:25 p.m. The next meeting of the Board will be
July 29, 2008 at 9:30 a.m., at the Richard M. Flynn Fire Academy, Route 106, Concord, NH.
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