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First voter comes in; he gets the first ballot paper. Now if you are to randomize it and you take
out from another place somewhere else, you cannot match the serial number with the voter. A simpler
procedure, tear five ballot papers. Clerk number two does that. He gives it to the clerk number three, face
down and let the voter choose at random. Once the voter had chosen, he passes it to the clerk number
three to do the perforation – tindik. I guarantee you this is secret. We have done this hundreds of times
and the voter when he sees this he says “Yes, we have confidence in this”.
Tuan Pengerusi: We understand you Mr. Wong but what will happen when you have torn all
these ballot papers, suddenly 5.00 o’clock – habis, tutup and you have three more or four balance. Where
do you put that?
Encik Wong Piang Yow: This is actually a very simple process. They have anticipated and that
is why they say we tear five only. Now at the close of the day, you can estimate how many voters are
there. I am sure the KTM can come up to five I believe. So when he sees there is only two or three, he
tears two or three. That’s it even if there’s excess. It can be encountered for in Form 13.
Form 13 is a very good control document and it is not that difficult to record the excess ballot
papers that are torn on Form 13. May I continue Mr. Chairman?
Tuan Pengerusi: A simple solution would be just at random. Just tear and give it at random.
That would be a simple solution.
Encik Wong Piang Yow: You still have to control the accounting at the end. Therefore, if you
have too much random then you have difficulty later on trying to find out where you have torn it.
Tuan Pengerusi: Just take five minutes. You are more worried about the secrecy.
Encik Wong Piang Yow: If you are happy with that, that is even better. But I would suggest
again please retain the serial number. It is very important for control.
The second point is candidate should be allowed to place their own securities seals on the ballot
boxes. Currently, only the SPR placed the security seal. We can increase public confidence by allowing
the candidates to place their own securities seal?
are they allowed?
photograph?
Tuan Pengerusi: They are allowed.
Encik Wong Piang Yow: They are allowed? Okay, that’s good. Sign on it and take photograph,
Tuan Pengerusi: They can take photograph.
Encik Wong Piang Yow: Well if they are not allowed to bring cameras in, how can they take
Tuan Pengerusi: No, no.
Encik Wong Piang Yow: They can sign but they should be allowed to take photograph
otherwise there is no way they can remember a few months later who sign what you know.
Tuan Pengerusi: If you are allowed to sign and bring your own seal that would be sufficient.
Encik Wong Piang Yow: Okay. Also the other point is about the destruction of the ballot papers
at the end of the holding period. Candidates and the agents should be required by law to witness the
opening all the ballot boxes and envelopes to ensure that the ballot papers are destroyed without anyone
scrutinizing the serial numbers.
Laporan Prosiding Pendengaran Awam JK PIlihan Khas Berhubung Penambahbaikan Pilihan Raya / Bil. 6