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Getting people out in these spaces also introduces informal<br />

surveillance, which works to deter crime.<br />

Q: Can these principles make a difference in prisons?<br />

A: Yes, there’s some really cool work with prisons. It turns<br />

out that inmates with views of fields or forests have substantially<br />

fewer sick calls than those inmates looking at<br />

mostly barren prison yards. We’re also seeing a surge in<br />

gardening programs as a form of therapy for prisoners.<br />

Q: Can you say which natural objects have the most impact?<br />

A: As far as we can tell, it matches up pretty well with<br />

people’s intuitive sense of what constitutes nature. <strong>The</strong><br />

little research we have comparing<br />

the effects of different<br />

natural features—trees,<br />

grass, etc.—suggests that<br />

trees have an outsized impact.<br />

We know less about<br />

flowers, but signs are that<br />

they are high on the list, too.<br />

Q: What about wildlife?<br />

A: We have less documentation<br />

of this, but it does seem<br />

that anything that makes the<br />

view more absorbing matters.<br />

I think it would be very<br />

interesting to look at the<br />

effects of bird-watching on<br />

older adults.<br />

Q: Do indoor plants<br />

play a similar role?<br />

A: We’re not finding that<br />

they do. In fact, we more<br />

consistently see benefits<br />

from a scenic wall calendar<br />

or a window view of nature<br />

than from an indoor plant.<br />

Q: If an office worker isn’t getting much benefit from her<br />

plant, maybe she needs to get outside. True?<br />

A: Yes, there’s a great deal of evidence to suggest that<br />

getting outside during the day and absorbing some of<br />

the natural world improves our mood and health. As of<br />

now, we don’t have a lot of specifics.<br />

Q: <strong>The</strong>re is considerable discussion these days about youngsters<br />

failing to get outside much, spending long hours in front<br />

of the computer screen and the TV. Do you have any findings<br />

about how that might affect them?<br />

A: We have work involving children with ADHD (Attention<br />

Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder) that shows that their<br />

symptoms are worse when they play indoors versus in<br />

greener, outdoor spaces. And there’s work on children in<br />

www.wilderness.org<br />

the general population linking their access to nature with<br />

better concentration and fewer ADHD-like symptoms. I<br />

also believe that unstructured time outdoors is important<br />

in developing children’s capacity to explore, learn risk<br />

management, and become independent.<br />

Q: Are researchers discovering differences based on age,<br />

gender, or other demographic factors?<br />

A: At first we were baffled because boys were not showing<br />

the same effects as girls. But eventually we realized<br />

that the differences might stem from how much time boys<br />

spend in and around their homes. Once we took that<br />

into account, the difference disappeared. So generally<br />

no, we’re not seeing much<br />

demographic variance; it<br />

looks like everyone benefits<br />

from access to nature.<br />

Q: I know you do a lot of<br />

work with the United States<br />

Conference of Mayors and<br />

the City of Chicago. Are<br />

urban residents at a serious<br />

disadvantage because nature<br />

is marginalized in cities?<br />

A: Actually, one of the really<br />

important findings in<br />

this field is that “nature”<br />

doesn’t necessarily mean<br />

“not urban.” <strong>The</strong> evidence<br />

on nature and human<br />

health is not an argument<br />

for sprawl—not at all. It’s<br />

an argument for creating a<br />

whole hierarchical system<br />

of green spaces in our cities.<br />

This certainly includes<br />

national and state parks<br />

and forest preserves, but it<br />

also includes green urban<br />

environments: tree-lined<br />

streets, window boxes, vest pocket parks, green roofs,<br />

planters, small squares. What research tells us is that we<br />

should weave nature into the urban fabric, and that this<br />

will almost certainly lead to a healthier, better-functioning<br />

citizenry.<br />

Q: As your knowledge of this field has grown, have you<br />

changed your lifestyle at all?<br />

A: Yes, I do pay more attention to how I live my life. I have<br />

a walk home that makes it possible to use my iPhone,<br />

but now I try not to do that so that I can focus more on<br />

the experience of the tree-lined streets. Like most faculty<br />

members, I am trying to juggle a lot of things, and at first<br />

I felt guilty about not using any available moment to catch<br />

up on work, but I’m making that transition. It’s not easy.<br />

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