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PAGE 857<br />

(CONVENED AT 12:20 AM)<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: <strong>MADAM</strong> <strong>FORELADY</strong>, <strong>LADIES</strong><br />

<strong>AND</strong> <strong>GENTLEMEN</strong>, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU MAY<br />

BE SEATED. WE'LL COMMENCE <strong>THE</strong> DEFENSE CASE.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> CLERK: MR. ALOISE.<br />

MR. ALOISE: DEFENDANT WOULD CALL<br />

MR. JOHN HAYES. DOWN <strong>THE</strong> END OF <strong>THE</strong> HALL.<br />

BAR?<br />

MR. BALL: COULD WE BE HEARD AT SIDE<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: YES.<br />

(SIDE BAR NOT TAKEN)<br />

(JOHN HAYES, A WITNESS CALLED BY <strong>THE</strong><br />

DEFENDANT, WAS SWORN <strong>AND</strong> TESTIFIED AS<br />

FCLLOWS: )<br />

BY MR. ALOISE:<br />

DIRECT EXAMINATION<br />

SIR, WOULD YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> <strong>AND</strong> JURY, <strong>AND</strong> SPELL YOUR LAST NAME<br />

FOR <strong>THE</strong> RECORD <strong>AND</strong> TRY TO KEEP YOUR VOICE UP<br />

SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR YOU IN A BIG ROOM?<br />

JOHN HAYES, H-A-Y-E-S.<br />

YOU GOT TO DO BETTER THAN THAT?<br />

JOHN HAYES, H-A-Y-E-S.<br />

WHERE DO YOU LIVE, MR. HAYES?<br />

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6 WEST LAKE STREET.<br />

WHERE?<br />

WORCESTER, MASSACHUSETTS.<br />

WITH WHOM DO YOU LIVE?<br />

WITH MY FA<strong>THE</strong>R.<br />

HOW OLD ARE YOU, MR. HAYES?<br />

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ARE YOU CURRENTLY EMPLOYED?<br />

YES, I AM.<br />

<strong>AND</strong> WHERE ARE YOU EMPLOYED?<br />

I WORK AT A CARPET CLEANING BUSINESS,<br />

PELLIGRINO CARPET CLEANING.<br />

PAGE 858<br />

CARPET CLEANING. <strong>AND</strong>, SIR, COULD YOU TELL ME<br />

BEFORE -- SOME WEEKS AGO, WEEK <strong>AND</strong> A HALF, TWO<br />

WEEKS AGO, DID YOU RECEIVE A SUBPOENA TO<br />

APPEAR HERE TODAY?<br />

YES.<br />

DID YOU BRING A COpy OF THAT SUBPOENA WITH<br />

YOU?<br />

YES, I DID.<br />

CAN I SEE IT, PLEASE.<br />

(COMPLYING) .<br />

<strong>AND</strong> FROM YOUR REVIEW OF THAT SUBPOENA DOES IT<br />

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YES, IT DOES.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> FLOOR?<br />

MR. BALL:<br />

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MR. BALL:<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>:<br />

MR. BALL:<br />

OBJECTION.<br />

PAGE 859<br />

IS <strong>THE</strong>RE AN OBJECTION ON<br />

YES.<br />

HERE UNDER SUMMONS ALWAYS.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>:<br />

WHAT DO YOU SAY?<br />

MR. ALOISE:<br />

BAR, YOUR HONOR?<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>:<br />

MR. ALOISE:<br />

WHAT IS YOUR OBJECTION?<br />

OBVIOUSLY WITNESSES ARE<br />

THANK YOU. MR. ALOISE,<br />

MAY I APPROACH <strong>THE</strong> SIDE<br />

YES.<br />

(SIDE BAR CONFERENCE)<br />

<strong>THE</strong>RE IS A FOUNDATION<br />

QUESTION TO ESTABLISH THAT MR. HAYES BEFORE<br />

THIS INCIDENT NEVER KNEW MR. ELBERRY OR MR.<br />

KING OR ME OR ANYBODY ELSE, ANTICIPATING SOME<br />

QUESTIONS BY MR. BALL.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>:<br />

MR. ALOISE:<br />

JUST ASK HIM THAT.<br />

I THOUGHT HE MIGHT<br />

OBJECT ON LEADING <strong>AND</strong> I DECIDED TO LAY A<br />

FOUNDATION QUESTION. BUT THAT IS ALL IT WAS,<br />

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3 SUMMONSED HIM. I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.<br />

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4 MR. BALL: HE ALREADY DID. .ARE WE<br />

5 GOING TO INTRODUCE <strong>THE</strong> SUMMONS OR WHAT?<br />

6 MR. ALOISE: NOT REALLY.<br />

7 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU<br />

8 ARE TRYING TO DO. THAT IS OKAY. I WILL TELL<br />

9 YOU WHAT, LET'S TRY TO ABBREVIATE AS MUCH AS<br />

10 POSSIBLE.<br />

11 MR. BALL: ASK HIM IF HE EVER KNEW<br />

12 ANYBODY.<br />

13 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: IF HE OBJECTS, YOU MAY<br />

14 HAVE TO GO BACK. BUT LET'S TRY IT THAT WAY<br />

15 FIRST.<br />

16 (SIDE BAR ENDED)<br />

17 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: JUST ONE SECOND,<br />

18 PLEASE.<br />

19 <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER: (CONFERRING WITH A<br />

20 JUROR) .<br />

21 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: OKAY. MR. <strong>COURT</strong><br />

22 OFFICER, SIDE BAR, PLEASE.<br />

23 (SIDE BAR CONFERENCE)<br />

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1 THAT <strong>THE</strong> FOREPERSON OF <strong>THE</strong> JURY ASKED <strong>THE</strong><br />

2 <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER TO COME OVER <strong>AND</strong> WHISPERED<br />

3 SOMETHING TO HIM. NOW WE WERE AT SIDE BAR.<br />

4 <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER: SHE SAYS THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y<br />

5 CLAIM THAT HE WAS HERE LISTENING TO TESTIMONY<br />

6 YESTERDAY. <strong>THE</strong>Y SAW HIM IN HERE LISTENING TO<br />

7 TESTIMONY YESTERDAY.<br />

8 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: OKAY. WHAT DO YOU SAY,<br />

9 MR. ALOISE?<br />

10 MR. ALOISE: I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF<br />

11 HIM BEING HERE.<br />

12 MR. BALL: I THINK WE SHOULD<br />

13 INQUIRE.<br />

14 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: I THINK WE SHOULD. WHAT<br />

15 WE'LL DO AT THIS POINT IS TAKE <strong>THE</strong> JURY OUT<br />

16 <strong>AND</strong> HAVE A VOIR DIRE. FOR <strong>THE</strong> RECORD I HAVE<br />

17 NO MEMORY OF <strong>THE</strong> GENTLEMAN BEING HERE.<br />

18 <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER: I AM ONLY HERE FOR<br />

19 HALF A DAY.<br />

20 MR. ALOISE: DEPENDING ON THAT<br />

21 ISSUE, <strong>THE</strong>N I MAY WANT YOU CONSIDERING<br />

22 QUESTIONING <strong>THE</strong> JUROR WHE<strong>THE</strong>R OR NOT THAT<br />

23 EFFECTS <strong>THE</strong>M AT ALL. ASSUMING THAT HE WAS NOT<br />

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A COUPLE OF <strong>THE</strong>M THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y SEEN HIM IN HERE.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: SO <strong>THE</strong>Y HAVE TALKED<br />

ABOUT IT. WELL, OKAY. LET'S CROSS THAT<br />

PAGE 862<br />

2 <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER: SHE SAID <strong>THE</strong>RE WERE<br />

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9 (SIDE BAR ENDED)<br />

10 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: <strong>LADIES</strong> <strong>AND</strong> <strong>GENTLEMEN</strong>,<br />

11 THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIGILANCE <strong>AND</strong> I AM GOING TO<br />

12 ASK yOU TO LEAVE <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM NOW WHILE WE<br />

13 ADDRESS <strong>THE</strong> MATTER. OKAY. <strong>AND</strong> I WOULD ASK<br />

14 yOU NOT TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER OR ANYTHING TO<br />

15 DO WITH <strong>THE</strong> CASE AMONG YOURSELVES WHEN YOU GO<br />

16 UPSTAIRS IN <strong>THE</strong> HOPEFULLY BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME<br />

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17 ' IT TAKES TO US EXAMINE <strong>THE</strong> QUESTION. OKAY.<br />

18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.<br />

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(JURORS LEAVING <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM)<br />

<strong>THE</strong> CLERK: MAY <strong>THE</strong> RECORD REFLECT<br />

21 THAT <strong>THE</strong> JURY HAS LEFT <strong>THE</strong> ROOM.<br />

22 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: ALL RIGHT. MR. ALOISE,<br />

23 THIS IS YOUR WITNESS, <strong>AND</strong> COUNSEL ARE<br />

24 RESPONSIBLE UNDER <strong>THE</strong> SEQUESTRATION ORDER. SO


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PAGE 863<br />

QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT CARE TO ASK AT THIS POINT,<br />

ANY NON-LEADING QUESTIONS.<br />

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. ALOISE<br />

MR. HAYES, PRIOR TO THIS MORNING OR PRIOR TO<br />

APPROXIMATELY 10:30, QUARTER OF ELEVEN THIS<br />

MORNING, HAD YOU COME TO <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> HOUSE HERE<br />

PRIOR TO THIS MORNING TO APPEAR FOR THIS CASE?<br />

NO.<br />

WHAT TIME DID YOU ARRIVE HERE THIS MORNING,<br />

SIR?<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: I AM NOT SO SURE THAT<br />

CLOCK IS ACCURATE. DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO <strong>THE</strong><br />

CLOCK ON <strong>THE</strong> WALL.<br />

IT WAS FIVE OF TEN. <strong>AND</strong> I WASN'T LOOKING AT<br />

IT.<br />

WERE YOU HERE YESTERDAY?<br />

NO.<br />

COULD YOU TELL US, SIR, WHE<strong>THE</strong>R OR NOT YOU<br />

CAME HERE AT 10 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING OR<br />

<strong>THE</strong>REABOUTS FOR ANY PARTICULAR REASON? WERE<br />

YOU CONTACTED BY MY OFFICE IN ANY WAY?<br />

YEAH. YOUR SECRETARY CALLED <strong>AND</strong> TOLD ME TO BE<br />

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1 CLEAR <strong>THE</strong> EVIDENCE IS THAT HE WAS NOT HERE.<br />

2 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: YES.<br />

3 !<br />

MR. ALOISE: <strong>AND</strong> I AM SURE THAT IT<br />

4 IS AN HONEST MISTAKE ON <strong>THE</strong> PART OF <strong>THE</strong><br />

5 JURORS, BUT I'M CONCERNED. WHAT I WOULD LIKE<br />

6 TO ASK <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> TO DO IS TO CONDUCT AN<br />

7 INDIVIDUAL VOIR DIRE OF EACH OF <strong>THE</strong> JURORS<br />

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SEPARATELY <strong>AND</strong> TELL <strong>THE</strong>M FIRST THAT -- THAT IT<br />

HAS BEEN FOUND THAT HE WAS NOT HERE, THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y<br />

10 ARE MISTAKEN, IF THAT IS WHAT <strong>THE</strong>Y FELT, <strong>AND</strong><br />

11 THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y ARE ORDERED TO DISREGARD THAT; <strong>AND</strong><br />

12 ASK <strong>THE</strong>M WHE<strong>THE</strong>R OR NOT <strong>THE</strong>Y CAN DISREGARD<br />

13 <strong>THE</strong>IR NO DOUBT HONEST BELIEF THAT HE WAS HERE,<br />

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BUT HE WAS NOT. IF <strong>THE</strong>Y CAN'T DO THAT, <strong>THE</strong>N<br />

<strong>THE</strong>Y OUGHT TO LET YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW. I'M<br />

CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A PRINCIPAL WITNESS FOR<br />

17 <strong>THE</strong> DEFENSE. <strong>AND</strong> IF <strong>THE</strong>Y HAVE A BELIEF,<br />

18 MISTAKEN THOUGH IT MAY BE, THAT EFFECTS <strong>THE</strong>IR<br />

19 ABILITY TO ACCEPT THIS EVIDENCE, IT IS HIGHLY<br />

20 PREJUDICIAL TO <strong>THE</strong> DEFENDANT.<br />

21 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: WHAT DO YOU SAY?<br />

22 MR. BALL: I AGREE. I THINK IT WAS<br />

23 JUST A MISTAKE ON <strong>THE</strong> PART OF <strong>THE</strong> JURORS THAT<br />

24 <strong>THE</strong>Y THOUGHT THIS PERSON WAS HERE. I HOWEVER


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5 ATTENTION. I HAVE NO OBJECTION, IN FACT, I<br />

6 WOULD ASK <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> ALSO TO TELL <strong>THE</strong> JURORS, I<br />

7 DON'T THINK AN INDIVIDUAL VOIR DIRE IS<br />

8 NECESSARY, TO TELL <strong>THE</strong> JURORS THAT I'M IN<br />

9 AGREEMENT, <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> IS IN AGREEMENT, MR.<br />

10 ALOISE IS IN AGREEMENT, WE ARE ALL IN<br />

11 AGREEMENT HE WAS NOT HERE <strong>AND</strong> <strong>THE</strong>Y HAVEN'T<br />

12 HEARD ANY OF HIS TESTIMONY YET. KNOWING THAT,<br />

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ABILITY TO DECIDE <strong>THE</strong> CASE, <strong>AND</strong> I DON' ']'SEE<br />

HOW -- I THINK BY STRETCHING IT OR BY BRINGING<br />

THAT UP, IT MIGHT CAUSE <strong>THE</strong>M TO THINK OF SIDE<br />

ISSUES. BUT I THINK <strong>THE</strong>IR CONCERN WAS JUST TO<br />

LET <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> KNOW THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y THOUGHT HE WAS<br />

HERE, NOT THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y BELIEVE OR DISBELIEVE --<br />

20 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: I DON'T THINK IT WOULD<br />

21 EFFECT <strong>THE</strong>M. I AM CONCERNED THAT AN<br />

22 INDIVIDUAL VOIR DIRE TENDS TO ELEVATE <strong>THE</strong><br />

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2 TESTIMONY REGARDING <strong>THE</strong> SEQUESTRATION ORDER I<br />

3 HAD ASK YOU TO DO IN MY MOTION, TO <strong>THE</strong> EXTENT<br />

4 THAT ANY JUROR THINKS THAT I PLAYED A PART IN.<br />

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6 INTERRUPT. JUST LOOKING AT <strong>THE</strong> WITNESS, I NOW<br />

7 RECALL SEEING SOMEONE IN <strong>THE</strong> BACK OF <strong>THE</strong><br />

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9 BELIEVE HE RESEMBLES. <strong>THE</strong>RE IS KIND OF A<br />

10 RESEMBLANCE. I THINK HIS NAME IS JOHN<br />

11 KENNEDY.<br />

12 <strong>THE</strong> CLERK: HE WAS HERE TODAY.<br />

13 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: YOU ARE CORRECT.<br />

14 I MR. BALL: I WILL BRING HIM DOWN <strong>AND</strong><br />

15 LET HIM SIT IN <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM SO <strong>THE</strong>Y'LL SEE<br />

16 HIM, <strong>AND</strong> I THINK <strong>THE</strong>Y WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT<br />

17 IT WAS -- IT SEEMS TO ME IT IS A PRETTY EASY<br />

18 MISTAKE TO MAKE. I WILL GO UPSTAIRS <strong>AND</strong> BRING<br />

19 HIM DOWN RIGHT NOW.<br />

20 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A<br />

21 LINE-UP FOR <strong>THE</strong> JURY?<br />

22 MR. BALL: LET HIM SIT <strong>THE</strong>RE,<br />

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MR. BALL: NO.<br />

MR. ALOISE: NO.<br />

PAGE 872<br />

1 GENTLEMAN WAS HERE YESTERDAY, <strong>THE</strong>Y ARE NOT TO<br />

2 LET THAT IMPACT OR INFLUENCE <strong>THE</strong>IR DECISION.<br />

3 MR. ALOISE: DOES ANYONE FEEL THAT<br />

4 <strong>THE</strong>Y ARE, IN FACT, INFLUENCED BY THIS<br />

5 PERCEPTION, NO MATTER HOW MISTAKEN IT MAY HAVE<br />

6 BEEN.<br />

7 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: WHAT DO YOU SAY?<br />

8 MR. BALL: FINE.<br />

9 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: <strong>AND</strong> <strong>THE</strong>N WE BRING <strong>THE</strong>M<br />

10 OVER TO <strong>THE</strong> SIDE BAR IF WE HAVE TO.<br />

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15 GENTLEMAN TO LEAVE <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM.<br />

16 MR. ALOISE: YES. I WAS GOING TO<br />

17 REQUEST THAT WE DO SO.<br />

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1 ON <strong>THE</strong> RECORD ALTHOUGH <strong>THE</strong> JURY IS NOT HERE.<br />

2 MR. HAYES, I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE <strong>THE</strong><br />

3 ROOM FOR SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. I AM GOING TO<br />

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<strong>THE</strong>Y SHOULD TALK TO YOU OUT IN <strong>THE</strong> CORRIDOR.<br />

10 WE'LL NOT BE TOO LONG, SIR. SO I JUST ASK YOU<br />

11 TO WAIT OUTSIDE FOR A BIT OF TIME. WHY DON'T<br />

12 YOU TAKE THAT WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK<br />

13 YOU. OFFICER, MAY WE HAVE <strong>THE</strong> JURY DOWN,<br />

14 PLEASE.<br />

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18 <strong>AND</strong> <strong>GENTLEMEN</strong>, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME AGAIN<br />

19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIGILANCE. <strong>THE</strong> FACT THAT<br />

20 YOU ARE ALERT AS TO EVERYTHING THAT IS<br />

21 HAPPENING IN <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM IS SOMETHING THAT<br />

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23 HAPPY THAT YOU ARE REALLY PAYING ATTENTION.<br />

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1 DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AT SIDE BAR, <strong>AND</strong> WE HAVE<br />

2 MADE APPROPRIATE INQUIRIES, <strong>AND</strong> BOTH ATTORNEYS<br />

3 <strong>AND</strong> I AGREE THAT YOU WERE MISTAKEN. WITH ALL<br />

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12 THIS CASE AT ALL, WHO BEARS A REMARKABLE<br />

13 LIKENESS TO MR. HAYES AS COINCIDENCE WOULD<br />

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16 REMEMBERED THAT HE WAS IN HERE YESTERDAY. SO<br />

17 I THINK THAT MAY BE WHAT <strong>THE</strong> JURY WAS THINKING<br />

18 ABOUT.<br />

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20 YOU ARE NOT TO LET THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT<br />

21 THAT AROSE INTERFERE AT ALL WITH YOUR FACT<br />

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1 INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS HERE YESTERDAY WAS INDEED<br />

2 MR. HAYES, I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT,<br />

3 YOU KNOW, THAT YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR BELIEFS<br />

4 <strong>AND</strong> PRINCIPLES AT ALL. BUT I WILL TELL YOU<br />

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VERDICTS. YOU SHOULD LET IT HAVE NO IMPACT<br />

12 UPON YOUR DETERMINATIONS OF THIS CASE.<br />

13 IF ANY JURORS FEELS AT THIS TIME<br />

14 THAT <strong>THE</strong> PARTICULAR INCIDENT CONCERNING WHICH<br />

15 WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT<br />

16 UPON HIS OR HER DELIBERATIONS <strong>AND</strong> DECIDING OF<br />

17 <strong>THE</strong> FACT ISSUES IN THIS CASE, I WISH YOU WOULD<br />

18 RAISE YOUR H<strong>AND</strong> RIGHT NOW? NOBODY --<br />

19 <strong>THE</strong> JUROR: DOESN'T HAVE IMPACT --<br />

20 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: SAY NOTHING, SIR. IF<br />

21 YOU HAVE A CONCERN, SIR, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO<br />

22 GO COME OVER HERE <strong>AND</strong> TELL US WHAT IT IS.<br />

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IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT. I AM JUST SAYING I<br />

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GENTLEMAN WAS IN <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM WHEN YOU FOLKS<br />

WERE HEARING EVIDENCE FROM <strong>THE</strong> O<strong>THE</strong>R WITNESS<br />

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<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: NOW, WHAT I WOULD -- DO<br />

YOU WISH TO ASK <strong>THE</strong> JUROR ANY QUESTIONS, MR.<br />

ALOISE?<br />

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CONSULT WITH <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> IF I COULD?<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: THANK YOU. DO YOU WISH<br />

TO ASK <strong>THE</strong> GENTLEMAN ANY QUESTIONS?<br />

MR. BALL: NO.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: JUST A SECOND. I AM<br />

GOING TO ASK YOU TO ST<strong>AND</strong> OVER BY <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong><br />

OFFICER WITH <strong>THE</strong> BLUE SHIRT. THANK you.<br />

(JUROR LEAVING SIDE BAR)<br />

MR. ALOISE: JUDGE, I AM CONCERNED<br />

<strong>AND</strong> I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO EXERCISE YOUR<br />

DISCRETION <strong>AND</strong> EXCUSE THIS JUROR SO THAT <strong>THE</strong>RE<br />

IS NO CONTAMINATION OF <strong>THE</strong> REST OF <strong>THE</strong><br />

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4 CREDIBILITY ISSUE HERE.<br />

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14 MINIMUM, I AM GOING TO EXCUSE THIS JUROR.<br />

15 MR. BALL: OKAY.<br />

16 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: WE'LL MAKE <strong>THE</strong><br />

17 APPROPRIATE COMMENTS TO <strong>THE</strong> PRESENT JURY. <strong>AND</strong><br />

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22 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: I AM TRYING TO REMEMBER<br />

23 <strong>THE</strong> QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF HIM.<br />

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9 <strong>THE</strong> CLERK: OKAY.<br />

10 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: QUESTION IS DO WE<br />

11 EXCLUDE <strong>THE</strong> JURY AGAIN OR DOES THAT MAKE TOO<br />

12 BIG A DEAL OUT OF IT? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY<br />

13 OBJECTION IF I BRING HIM OVER HERE <strong>AND</strong> TELL<br />

14 HIM HERE?<br />

15 MR. ALOISE: NO.<br />

16 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: THANK YOU.<br />

17 <strong>THE</strong> CLERK: BRING HIM OVER, JUDGE?<br />

18 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: YES.<br />

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(JUROR APPROACHING SIDE BAR)<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: SIR, I WANT YOU TO KNOW<br />

24 THAT YOU HAVE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.


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1 TO DO AT THIS POINT NOW IS TO GO WITH <strong>THE</strong><br />

2 <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER <strong>AND</strong> HE'LL PUT YOU IN A ROOM<br />

3 UPSTAIRS. <strong>AND</strong> JUST SIT <strong>THE</strong>RE FOR A MOMENT<br />

4 UNTIL WE GET BACK TO YOU. IT WON'T BE TOO<br />

5 LONG I CAN ASSURE YOU.<br />

6 MR. <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER, I AM GOING TO ASK<br />

7 YOU TO TAKE <strong>THE</strong> REST OF <strong>THE</strong> JURY UP <strong>AND</strong> PUT<br />

8 <strong>THE</strong>M IN A SEPARATE ROOM. IF YOU WILL DO THAT<br />

9 NOW, SIR. PLEASE, I AM GOING TO ASK YOU NOT<br />

10 TO HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH <strong>THE</strong> JURY. IT IS NOT<br />

11 THAT YOU ARE SICK OR ANYTHING. WE GOT TO DO<br />

12 <strong>THE</strong>SE THINGS, SIR. YOU UNDERST<strong>AND</strong>, SIR?<br />

13 <strong>THE</strong> JUROR: YES.<br />

14 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: NO HARD FEELINGS?<br />

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<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: THANK YOU.<br />

(SIDE BAR ENDED)<br />

18 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: <strong>MADAM</strong> FOREPERSON <strong>AND</strong><br />

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<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: THANK yOU. NOW, MR.<br />

BALL, MAY I HAVE A SUGGESTION FROM YOU AS TO<br />

HOW WE SHOULD NEXT PROCEED?<br />

MR. BALL: I ASK MR. BERGMAN TO COME<br />

TO <strong>THE</strong> WITNESS ST<strong>AND</strong>.<br />

OBJECTION?<br />

WITNESS.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: MR. ALOISE, ANY<br />

MR. ALOISE: NO, JUDGE.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: YOU MAY CALL YOUR<br />

<strong>THE</strong> CLERK: MR. BERGMAN, PLEASE COME<br />

FORWARD <strong>AND</strong> RAISE YOUR RIGHT H<strong>AND</strong>.<br />

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BALL<br />

STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE?<br />

MORRIS A. BERGMAN.<br />

WHERE DO YOU WORK?<br />

(WITNESS DULY SWORN)<br />

ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR <strong>THE</strong> MIDDLE<br />

DISTRICT IN WORCESTER.<br />

YESTERDAY DID YOU HAVE OCCASION TO BE IN THIS<br />

<strong>COURT</strong>ROOM DURING THIS TRIAL?<br />

I WAS IN <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM YESTERDAY <strong>AND</strong> <strong>THE</strong> DAY<br />

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JUST -- WERE YOU HERE EARLIER TODAY WHEN <strong>THE</strong><br />

LAST WITNESS WAS CALLED BY <strong>THE</strong> DEFENSE?<br />

I WAS.<br />

<strong>AND</strong> DID YOU RECOGNIZE THAT PERSON?<br />

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WHERE DID YOU RECOGNIZE HIM FROM?<br />

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<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM EI<strong>THE</strong>R YESTERDAY <strong>AND</strong>/OR <strong>THE</strong> DAY<br />

BEFORE.<br />

WHERE?<br />

HE WAS SEATED IN <strong>THE</strong> SECOND ROW ON <strong>THE</strong> LEFT<br />

SIDE OF <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM AS I FACED IT.<br />

ALL RIGHT. WHERE WERE YOU SITTING?<br />

I WAS SITTING IN <strong>THE</strong> SECOND ROW CENTER OF <strong>THE</strong><br />

<strong>COURT</strong>ROOM AS I FACE IT.<br />

ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT THAT PERSON<br />

WAS IN <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM WHILE <strong>THE</strong> JURY WAS SEATED<br />

IN <strong>THE</strong> JURY BOX DURING THIS TRIAL?<br />

<strong>THE</strong>RE IS NO QUESTION. <strong>THE</strong> ONLY PARAPHRASE I<br />

WOULD ADD TO THAT IS HE WAS EI<strong>THE</strong>R IN <strong>THE</strong><br />

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<strong>THE</strong> MIDDLE ROW CENTER AISLE. ALTHOUGH WE ARE<br />

NOT IN <strong>THE</strong> SAME BENCH, WE SAT NEXT TO EACH<br />

O<strong>THE</strong>R. I WOULD ALSO ADD HE WAS WEARING<br />

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ST<strong>AND</strong>ING BEFORE <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> A FEW MINUTES AGO.<br />

MR. BALL: ASK THAT PERSON TO BE<br />

BROUGHT INTO <strong>THE</strong> ROOM AT THIS TIME?<br />

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<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: NO. NOT AT <strong>THE</strong> MOMENT.<br />

MR. BALL: I DON'T HAVE ANY FUR<strong>THE</strong>R<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.<br />

MR. ALOISE, ANY QUESTIONS?<br />

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. ALOISE<br />

MR. BERGMAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN <strong>THE</strong><br />

<strong>COURT</strong>ROOM <strong>THE</strong> DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY BY <strong>THE</strong> TIME<br />

YOU ARRIVED?<br />

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WAITING FOR CASES TO BE CALLED. I WOULD SAY<br />

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PEOPLE -- LESS THAN <strong>THE</strong> AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT<br />

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WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT NOW WE HAVE NINE<br />

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OFFICER WAS OR INQUIRED OF HIM AS TO WHO HE<br />

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NO. I DIDN'T SEE THAT.<br />

MR. ALOISE: NOTHING ELSE, JUDGE.<br />

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YOU ALSO KNOW JOHN KENNEDY, OF COURSE?<br />

YES.<br />

<strong>AND</strong> YOU WOULDN'T MISTAKE THAT PERSON FOR JOHN<br />

KENNEDY, WOULD YOU?<br />

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MR. BALL: NOTHING FUR<strong>THE</strong>R.<br />

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ARE ALL KNOW MR. KENNEDY, <strong>AND</strong> I KNOW YOU KNOW<br />

MR. KENNEDY. <strong>AND</strong> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, SIR.<br />

DO YOU SEE A RESEMBLANCE BETWEEN MR. KENNEDY<br />

THIS GENTLEMAN?<br />

<strong>THE</strong> WITNESS: NO. I WOULD ADD,<br />

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3 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: FOR <strong>THE</strong> RECORD -- I AM<br />

4 NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS. I WILL<br />

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10 SIMILARITY. I KNOW MR. KENNEDY WAS IN <strong>AND</strong> OUT<br />

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12 DAYS, AT LEAST YESTERDAY.<br />

13 OKAY. ARE <strong>THE</strong>RE ANY O<strong>THE</strong>R FUR<strong>THE</strong>R<br />

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20 RECOGNIZES HIM. IS <strong>THE</strong>RE ANY OBJECTION TO<br />

21 THAT? I AM NOT SURE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GAIN<br />

22 BY THAT.<br />

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1 WAS IN <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM UNDER -- WHEN <strong>THE</strong>RE WAS A<br />

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3 MR. ALOISE: WELL, THAT IS A BIG<br />

4 ASSUMPTION. I SAY THAT IS NOT CLEAR. I DON'T<br />

5 THINK <strong>THE</strong> MANIFEST NECESSITY IS <strong>THE</strong>RE FOR A<br />

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WORK AT 5:30, <strong>AND</strong> INFORM HIM THAT HE WAS TO BE<br />

HERE AT 10 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. <strong>AND</strong> 'I'HAT I<br />

ASKED HER THIS MORNING JUST BEFORE LEAVING FOR<br />

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1 MR. BALL: I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION,<br />

2 YOUR HONOR, IF I COULD?<br />

3 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: SURE.<br />

4 MR. BALL: YOU HAVE EXCUSED MR.<br />

5 AUDET, <strong>THE</strong> JUROR. I ASK THAT WE PUT HIM ON<br />

6 <strong>THE</strong> ST<strong>AND</strong> <strong>AND</strong> ASK HIM IF HE RECALLS WHAT THAT<br />

7 PERSON WAS WEARING YESTERDAY OR <strong>THE</strong> DAY<br />

8 BEFORE. IN WHICH CASE, WE WOULD KNOW WHE<strong>THE</strong>R<br />

9 OR NOT THAT IS A PERJURED -- WE HAVE A<br />

10 PERJURER NOW ON <strong>THE</strong> ST<strong>AND</strong> OR WE HAVE AN HONEST<br />

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OUT TO YOU, <strong>GENTLEMEN</strong>. IF WE DO NOTHING <strong>AND</strong><br />

RELY UPON <strong>THE</strong> JURY'S RESPONSE ALREADY, <strong>AND</strong><br />

16 <strong>THE</strong>Y OF COURSE HAVEN'T HEARD MR. BERGMAN'S<br />

17 TESTIMONY, JURY'S.<br />

18 RESPOND THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y CAN CAST <strong>THE</strong><br />

EPISODE OUT OF <strong>THE</strong>IR MIND <strong>AND</strong> NOT BE<br />

INFLUENCED BY <strong>THE</strong>, SINCE WE HAVE NOW<br />

SEGREGRATED <strong>THE</strong> ONE JUROR WHOM WE FELT COULD<br />

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1 CONCERNING WHE<strong>THE</strong>R HE WAS IN <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>ROOM <strong>AND</strong><br />

2 HEARING TESTIMONY YESTERDAY. <strong>AND</strong> IF HE<br />

3 PERSIST IN HIS STATEMENT THAT HE WAS NOT, IT<br />

4 MAY BE THAT MR. BALL WOULD WANT TO CALL MR.<br />

5 BERGMAN BEFORE <strong>THE</strong> JURY TO TESTIFY TO THAT<br />

6 POINT.<br />

7 OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT<br />

8 HAS ALL BEEN SPRUNG ON US IN <strong>THE</strong> LAST TEN<br />

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PARTICULAR LINE OF CROSS-EXAMINATION I WILL<br />

11 ULTIMATELY PERMIT. BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME TO<br />

BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE EXPLORED.<br />

BECAUSE <strong>THE</strong>RE IS AT LEAST A COLORABLE REASON<br />

GIVEN MR. BERGMAN'S TESTIMONY TO SUGGEST THAT<br />

MR. HAYES HAS NOT BEEN TOTALLY FORTHCOMING.<br />

WHEN WE ADD THAT TO <strong>THE</strong> MIX, WHAT DO YOU SAY,<br />

MR. ALOISE?<br />

IS YOUR WITNESS.<br />

MR. ALOISE: WELL, JUDGE, <strong>THE</strong> --<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: BEARING IN MIND, SIR,<br />

MR. ALOISE: BEFORE WE GET TO THAT<br />

POINT, JUDGE, I SUPPOSE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE<br />

INQUIRY -- I WILL NEED SOME TIME TO DO IT, I<br />

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<strong>THE</strong> DISTRICT ATTORNEY <strong>AND</strong> HIS OFFICE CAN BE<br />

PERSUADED THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y ARE MISTAKEN, <strong>THE</strong>N IT<br />

WOULD NOT BE EVIDENCE THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y WOULD SEEK TO<br />

INTRODUCE AT <strong>THE</strong> TRIAL BEFORE <strong>THE</strong> JURY.<br />

KEEPING IN MIND THAT MY OFFER OF PROOF ON THIS<br />

WITNESS IS THAT HE IS ONLY TESTIFYING<br />

REGARDING MATTERS THAT OCCURRED AFTER EVERY<br />

O<strong>THE</strong>R WITNESS MADE OBSERVATIONS. SO THAT<br />

DESPITE <strong>THE</strong> ISSUE OF <strong>THE</strong> SEQUESTRATION, <strong>AND</strong> I<br />

ASSUME <strong>AND</strong> I SAW <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICERS INQUIRING<br />

OF PEOPLE WHO <strong>THE</strong>Y DIDN'T KNOW AS TO WHO <strong>THE</strong>Y<br />

WERE. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y WOULD HAVE<br />

ALLOWED THIS PERSON TO SIT IN HERE. <strong>AND</strong><br />

UNLESS ANY <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER NOW IS PREPARED TO<br />

SAY THAT <strong>THE</strong>Y HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THIS<br />

INDIVIDUAL WHO REPRESENTED THAT HE WAS NOT<br />

INVOLVED IN <strong>THE</strong> CASE, <strong>THE</strong>N I THINK THAT IS<br />

ANO<strong>THE</strong>R ISSUE. IT WAS <strong>THE</strong> RESPONSIBILITY OF<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICERS, RIGHTFULLY SO, TO CARRY<br />

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<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> WERE ENGAGED IN THIS TRIAL, <strong>AND</strong> <strong>THE</strong>Y<br />

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1 NOT PRESENT <strong>THE</strong> ENTIRE DAY YESTERDAY. <strong>THE</strong>RE<br />

2 WAS ANO<strong>THE</strong>R <strong>COURT</strong> OFFICER, <strong>AND</strong> MAYBE MORE, WHO<br />

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<strong>THE</strong> O<strong>THE</strong>R ESCAPES ME. WELL, <strong>THE</strong> O<strong>THE</strong>R ESCAPES<br />

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1 EI<strong>THE</strong>R BY MYSELF OR IMPORTANTLY BY MY CLIENT.<br />

2 IF <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong> FUR<strong>THE</strong>R WANTS TO INQUIRE OF MR.<br />

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4 WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU SEE FIT.<br />

5 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: WELL, IT IS NOT SO MUCH<br />

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IMPORTANT. WOULD YOU AGREE, MR. BALL?<br />

MR. BALL: YES.<br />

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TOLD US, WITHOUT HESITATION, EXCEPT FOR <strong>THE</strong><br />

ONE INDIVIDUAL, THAT IT WILL NOT BE IMPACTED<br />

BY THIS MATTER. ANYTHING FUR<strong>THE</strong>R, <strong>GENTLEMEN</strong>?<br />

MR. BALL: NO.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: MR. BALL, YOUR MOTION<br />

FOR MISTRIAL IS DENIED. I AM INCLINED TO<br />

RESUME <strong>THE</strong> TRIAL. YOU MAY CALL YOUR WITNESS,<br />

SIR. <strong>AND</strong> WHE<strong>THE</strong>R OR NOT MR. BALL SEEKS TO<br />

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HAVE TO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE COME TO IT.<br />

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(CONVENED AT 12:25 PM)<br />

<strong>THE</strong> <strong>COURT</strong>: WELCOME BACK. <strong>LADIES</strong><br />

<strong>AND</strong> <strong>GENTLEMEN</strong>, I WOULD REMIND YOU AGAIN THAT<br />

YOU ARE NOT TO CONSIDER ANY OF <strong>THE</strong> MATTERS<br />

WHICH HAVE ENGAGED US OVER <strong>THE</strong> PAST HOUR OR SO<br />

CONCERNING OBSERVATIONS THAT YOU MADE <strong>AND</strong> THAT<br />

WE DISCUSSED BEFORE AS IN ANY WAY IMPACTING<br />

UPON <strong>THE</strong> ISSUES THAT YOU ARE TO DECIDE THIS<br />

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H<strong>AND</strong>S IF I ASKED IF IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT<br />

UPON YOU. SO I AM GOING TO HOLD YOU TO THAT<br />

PROMISE THAT YOU WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT <strong>AND</strong><br />

THAT YOU ARE CAPABLE OF FOCUSING UPON <strong>THE</strong> FACT<br />

ISSUES IN THIS CASE WITHOUT BEING DIVERTED BY<br />

<strong>THE</strong> OCCURRENCES OF THIS MORNING. I THANK YOU<br />

VERY MUCH. <strong>AND</strong> MR. ALOISE.<br />

MR. ALOISE: MAY WE HAVE <strong>THE</strong><br />

PREVIOUS WITNESSES, PLEASE.<br />

<strong>THE</strong> CLERK: MR. HAYES, PLEASE.<br />

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. ALOISE<br />

MR. HAYES, BEFORE WE BROKE I HAD ASKED YOU A<br />

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